March 14, 2025 • 28 mins
Reflecting on her first experience with Pokémon Blue, StandardizedBogey reveals how the Pokémon franchise sparked her love for fanfiction writing. With a focus on memorable Pokémon villains like Saturn from Team Galactic and Archer from Team Rocket, she dives into their complexities and motivations. Throughout the episode, she opens up about the influence of Pokémon on her life, from building a family with her shared fandom to how the world-building continues to shape her creative journey.
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StandardizedBogey (00:00):
I'm standardized bogey, and this is
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my Pokemon story.
David Hernandez (00:41):
Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where we
interview people about theirexperience with Pokemon.
My name is David Hernandez.
I'm joined by standardizedbogey, a Pokemon fanfic writer
here to share the inspirationand their experience with
Pokemon standardized.
Welcome to the podcast.
StandardizedBogey (01:00):
Thank you for having me.
David Hernandez (01:01):
Absolutely.
And we're going to dive into somany things.
I have a heart for writing.
I have a heart for Pokemon, butI want to kind of start from the
beginning.
So what's your first experiencewith Pokemon?
StandardizedBogey (01:11):
Pokemon Blue came out when I was 10, so I
have not missed a title sincethen.
And it's become a part of mylife.
It was how I met my husband.
My kids are now downstairsplaying with Pokemon cards and
they have an entire set ofEeveelution plushies, so it's
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just part of my life.
David Hernandez (01:33):
So blue was your first game.
What was it like to kind of
StandardizedBogey (01:35):
Yes.
David Hernandez (01:36):
game?
StandardizedBogey (01:37):
I loved that game.
I was immediately doing all ofthe things.
I maxed out the decks.
it was my first introduction tovideo games, really, because I
was never a video game kid, butin that came with understanding
that the anime telling youliterally any Pokemon can be
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strong if you just love themenough was not actually the way
the game mechanic worked.
David Hernandez (02:04):
Although we liked you as much as we could,
right?
StandardizedBogey (02:07):
It was, it was quite the shock when my
Raticate, you know, didn't,didn't do so great.
David Hernandez (02:12):
Hey, I still believed in Raticate, man.
That hyper thing, I alwaysbelieved it was OP sometimes.
StandardizedBogey (02:16):
You know what, I did a normal only run
when I was an adult and that wasthe star of my team.
He, he redeemed himself.
David Hernandez (02:26):
You said you weren't a video game person
growing up.
what do you think it was aboutPokémon that kind of maybe
changed that?
Or maybe was different comparedto the other video games around
at the time?
StandardizedBogey (02:35):
I was always very much an animal person, so,
you told me that there was athing that all of my friends
were into, but also I could havea dog and a pony and a cat and
all this other stuff.
It's like, yeah, okay.
David Hernandez (02:48):
It's like, oh, I could have all, I can have
everything in my cake and I
StandardizedBogey (02:51):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I had a fire horse.
I mean, what am I going tocomplain about?
David Hernandez (02:55):
Oh my gosh.
Ponytail's such an underratedPokemon
StandardizedBogey (02:57):
It's a great Pokémon.
David Hernandez (02:59):
Mm.
Did you have a favorite Pokemon,I guess to even now, like what's
your favorite Pokemon?
StandardizedBogey (03:03):
I've always fallen in love with Gengar.
I'm actually genuinely shockedhow much merch it has.
Because it's so funny, it'salways like, Pikachu and
Clefairy Gengar.
You know?
It's this little goblin sittingwith all these cute little
things.
but at the same time I have aGyarados on basically every team
I've ever done.
Just cause he's just always beenthere for me so I can't not play
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with him.
David Hernandez (03:25):
Oh, that's fair.
I always played REOs when I, thefirst, play through in red,
blue, and yellow, and I got torelive it in har gold soul
silver.
So I've always had a very softspot for REOs, especially
getting that magic carp to level20.
I was always a
StandardizedBogey (03:37):
Oh yeah, it's, it's so hard, but I'm
always, I have to buy theMagikarp when I pass by that
Pokemon Center.
I, I try not to, and I buy itanyway.
David Hernandez (03:47):
Oh, you try.
I just gave up.
I just go ahead and click A andsay, yeah, I'll take that.
I'll pay five bucks for this.
StandardizedBogey (03:51):
Basically, basically, you get it, you get
it faster, so you know, I'lltake the dead weight.
David Hernandez (03:56):
When it came to Pokemon, did you stick with it
throughout, even after Gen 1?
Like, did you play Johto, Hoenn?
Like, how far did this go along?
StandardizedBogey (04:03):
I've played every single game, but how much
I'll actually go back andrevisit them, is more the change
because there are some regionslike Hoenn and Sinnoh and, now,
you know, Canto, just because itjust keeps coming back that I
revisit over and over versusKalos.
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I've had no interest in goingback.
David Hernandez (04:25):
The same with me.
I like going to Canto, Hoenn.
Sinnoh with recent BDSP ispretty interesting.
I can't get into Kalos.
it just, it's a
StandardizedBogey (04:34):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (04:35):
don't, I look at it.
I'm like, eh, you're there.
StandardizedBogey (04:38):
You know, I, love Kalos in the mechanics that
it has to explore.
I think it has some of the mostfun and interesting
environments.
But at the same time, you know,I, very much into the characters
and the story and the writing.
And Sycamore just kind of, wow,that's a really good point when
Lysander was like, hey, maybe weshould omnicide everybody.
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Yeah, I was like, I don't thinkI'm going to come back to this
game, and I haven't.
David Hernandez (05:05):
I know earlier you said that you got a chance
to meet your husband throughPokemon.
Are you willing to kind of shareyour story and like, what led to
that?
StandardizedBogey (05:12):
Oh yeah, so, we were actually, a little bit
different than that, we wereactually stand partners in band.
But, when we first decided, youknow, to spend some time outside
of school, that was when Thecard game was just starting to
really take hold in America andwe spent a good two hours in a
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burger place just discussingPokemon cards and we really
didn't stop after that and wejust got closer and closer until
we ended up getting married andit's been, oh goodness gracious,
it's been, it'll be 13 years inSeptember.
David Hernandez (05:54):
That's crazy.
So when TCG was starting to grabhold back here in the states,
you and your husband justhappened to meet and y'all have
been Pokemon fans together eversince.
That's such an amazing cutestory.
StandardizedBogey (06:03):
Yeah, no, I love it.
David Hernandez (06:05):
Do y'all play the games together?
Cards together?
Like, what is that like, evenafter post marriage?
Like, do y'all,
StandardizedBogey (06:10):
Um.
David Hernandez (06:11):
kind of like a date night kind of thing?
StandardizedBogey (06:12):
yeah, though, he's kind of straight into other
games, but I'll have the Switchhooked up to the TV so he'll be
watching me go through it andwe'll be talking through
everything.
David Hernandez (06:22):
Hmm.
StandardizedBogey (06:23):
while he does, uh, hooked on Bellatro
right now.
So he's on that and, he actuallyput it down for the Sada fight,
Which was big, I appreciatedthat.
You know, that was a greatfight.
David Hernandez (06:36):
Who's the better Pokemon trainer between
y'all if y'all battle?
Like, are you going to beat himor is he going to beat you?
StandardizedBogey (06:40):
If he actually worked at it, I think
he would destroy me, but hehasn't worked at it in years, so
I'm saying that I would
David Hernandez (06:48):
I was going to say, this is the point
StandardizedBogey (06:49):
Oh yeah.
David Hernandez (06:50):
confident and say, like, yeah, I'll destroy
the
StandardizedBogey (06:51):
yeah.
David Hernandez (06:52):
has no
StandardizedBogey (06:52):
Well,
David Hernandez (06:53):
against Cynthia.
StandardizedBogey (06:54):
you know, he had a executor named Breakfast,
and I have never stopped holdinga grudge against that thing.
So,
David Hernandez (07:05):
So you're not really a breakfast person, I
take it.
StandardizedBogey (07:08):
not anymore, no.
David Hernandez (07:10):
Y'all met through the TCG, so do y'all
collect cards too?
Is that kind of something y'allhave on the side?
StandardizedBogey (07:15):
I, I collect them more to just for the
pictures these days because theart is, often be stunning, but,
I'm more into, the games andthe, mangas and, and, fan scene
versus the TCG.
It's gotten, it's gotten toocompetitive for, for me to keep
up with as a casual,unfortunately.
David Hernandez (07:36):
No, I feel that because whenever I go to the
card shows I see the card artI'm like where was this when I
was younger and it's justamazing the drawings and the
different cards than how I guessPokemon has Kind of evolved in a
sense to display this kind ofdifferent touches on Pokemon
from different artists.
It's amazing
StandardizedBogey (07:52):
It's incredible.
David Hernandez (07:53):
Now, I know you talked about how, you know, you
do writing and you focus on someof the characters and I kind of
wanted to dive into first, whatmade you want to start writing?
What led you to become like afanfic writer for Pokemon?
StandardizedBogey (08:06):
well, I've been writing since I could
write.
I've heard other writersdescribe it as, it's a need to
create.
It's not something you reallychoose, and like, an idea will
eat at you until you get it outon the paper.
What brought me back intoPokemon, because I had taken,
uh, I still liked it, but I hadkind of taken a break from it,
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was, Games Done Quick had donean Oris speed run, and I think
it might have been a race, but,I just remembered how much I, I
adored Oris, and then I slippedback in, and I haven't gotten
back out since.
David Hernandez (08:45):
And what did you do when it came to writing?
So you just start writing aboutAuris or,
StandardizedBogey (08:50):
I had written, back when Wurst came
out, I had, I had a couple andso I dug those up and one of
them, it's like, you know what,this is, this is good enough for
me to do a rewrite with my,current skills.
And I think it turned out prettyokay, but then I was like, well
I'm gonna do like a one shotabout, Saturn.
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And, I have now written abouthim pretty much more than any
other character, which I was notexpecting when it started, but,
you know, here we are.
David Hernandez (09:20):
I noticed that Saturn was a lot of your main
character when it came to thefanfics.
what was it about Saturnspecifically?
Was there just something abouthis character that kind of drew
you and inspired you to kind ofwant to write fanfic just for a
Saturn?
StandardizedBogey (09:33):
he is probably the most interesting of
the subordinates for the villainteams.
He's got a lot of complexitiesto him that you really don't
tend to see.
what's also interesting abouthim is that the more you read on
him, the more you realize that,no two writers can ever agree
who he is, but there'sconsistencies in him, and
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there's a determination in himthat, you know, this is not how
it's going to be, I am going tofix it.
However, whatever He considersit to be, and however he
considers it to be fixed, he'sgoing to do it.
And he's just such aninteresting character to me that
I haven't been able to get offhim.
David Hernandez (10:17):
Is it more of the sense that two writers can't
find out their motivation or isit more of, the reason why he
exists in the world is where Iguess disagreement happens from
your perspective.
StandardizedBogey (10:29):
It's really interesting because when you
look at Galactic, the teamdynamics and who each character
is will change very much betweeniterations, we have, the anime,
we have the game, we have thetwo mangas, and, all those
writers took very differentstances on what they are, known
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more than Saturn, because in oneversion he's this lazy tech
gamer, and in another version,he's doing literally everything.
I don't think the man has evertaken a break in his life.
And another version, he's theteam muscle, and then the other
one, he's, he seems to be justlike an in office administrator.
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It's, it's just crazy how, howmuch disagreement there seems to
be on what his role should be inthe team.
David Hernandez (11:20):
Interesting.
It seems like he's just, theywant him to be everything.
Basically be the glue of TeamGalactic and the Artists just
view him as like he's, it soundslike they at least view him as
important That's probably whythey can't decide on what his
role is
StandardizedBogey (11:35):
No, he's, he, he is generally the second in
command, and he's, Cyrus isalmost like a distant figurehead
when you look at it.
If he's wandering around, he'sby himself and the things he's
doing are not, they'reimportant, but they're not
crucial.
Uh, Saturn is generally the onewho's actually taking care of
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everything He's.
tends to be the reason thatanything that actually happened
happened.
David Hernandez (12:04):
I
StandardizedBogey (12:04):
Um,
David Hernandez (12:05):
because I remember whenever some, a
mission would go down you like Isaid You don't see Cyrus too
often.
You saw mostly Saturn come frombehind the scenes in, he was
kind of the The one who calledthe shots in a way, but then you
StandardizedBogey (12:16):
yeah.
David Hernandez (12:16):
of just the second in command.
I, if that makes sense, I knowit's kind of cliche what I just
said, but still.
StandardizedBogey (12:21):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, Cyrus just kind ofwalks around Sinnoh and will
just kind of look at stuff andhis, his team is, are the ones
who are actually doing things,so.
David Hernandez (12:33):
I wonder
StandardizedBogey (12:33):
Yeah, it's funny.
David Hernandez (12:34):
if maybe Cyrus views Saturn as the reliable
person.
Maybe that's why we see him
StandardizedBogey (12:39):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (12:39):
perspective that, oh, I don't need to be
involved because I know Saturnwill kind of take care of it.
StandardizedBogey (12:44):
that's definitely seems to be At least
how in the game Saturn willdescribe their relationship,
that this is very interesting,and I wanted to be right next to
him, seeing what he was going todo.
And that's another reason whyit's so interesting, because
that's not always the case.
In, like, in the anime, he'shandling everything, and other
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times it's clear that Jupiteroutranks him.
so he's, he's taking a stepback, and yet he's still the one
handling everything, somehow.
And, it's just, he's a, he's amuch more interesting character
than I expected.
Just, looking at him, and, hey,he's got neat hair.
Um, maybe I'll, you know, checkhim out a little.
David Hernandez (13:28):
they all have neat hair, man.
I wish I had their
StandardizedBogey (13:30):
They do.
David Hernandez (14:36):
I know another one that you did was Team
Rocket, and specifically did afanfic on Archer, I believe,
right?
What about
StandardizedBogey (14:43):
Yes,
David Hernandez (14:43):
I guess, inspired you to want to start
writing about?
StandardizedBogey (14:46):
Archer almost seems like a prototype of Saturn
in that, you know, you have theexceedingly dedicated
subordinate who, runningeverything but like the
difference Archer really neededmasters and let's go Pikachu
for, character developmentbecause he got nothing in the
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game he's just like well that'sthe end I can't do anything else
I'm sorry I'm gone versus Saturnwhich is Part of the reason I
glommed onto him harder was, no,no, we're, we're gonna fix this.
I'm gonna take responsibility.
I'm gonna take care of everyoneand that's where it's gonna be.
But, Archer's development inMasters has been very
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interesting because, he's a veryrepressed man.
He's got a lot of deep trustissues and, a lot of pride in
himself, but you can tell justlike under the surface of what
his words are, that pride inhimself is entirely dependent on
his job and having Giovannistick around this time.
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And, uh,
David Hernandez (15:52):
It's almost like when Giovanni, I guess,
disappeared, it became like ahole in him, basically, and his
motivation is to try to havethat reconnection and have that
importance.
Is that kind of?
How it is from your perspective.
StandardizedBogey (16:02):
Yeah, I mean, not even my perspective, that's,
he'll flat out say like, I ranthis, I did it to keep it going
so he could come back andeverything's better because he's
here.
I don't want that top position,despite the fact that if he
could run Rocket for years onhis own, he can do it.
David Hernandez (16:22):
Mm hmm.
StandardizedBogey (16:23):
but he wants to be with Giovanni, and he
wants everything for Giovanni,and that's all he cares about.
David Hernandez (16:31):
I think it really touches on the team
rocket inspiration, which is theYakuza and Yakuza for those who
don't know, it's kind of like agang basically.
And usually people, why theyjoin gangs is they don't really
have a place to belong and that,that gang becomes your identity.
And when you think about it,when Giovanni was defeated in
Kanto, it basically, you know,of course dismantled everything
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that was built up, but for,Archer.
What's his motive?
What does he have left?
It's basically he, he had adeath basically.
He doesn't know what he is now.
And I think he, it sounds likehe struggles with trying to find
that next chapter in life.
StandardizedBogey (17:05):
Yeah, he, he does.
And that's one of the mostinteresting things about them
coming into masters is,especially if you're reading
like their day with now that theexecutives are playable, you get
a day with with them.
David Hernandez (17:19):
Mm
StandardizedBogey (17:19):
None of them are okay.
They are all dead.
deeply traumatized by whathappened to them in HeartGold
SoulSilver, and rather thandealing with that, they're just
like, hey Giovanni's back,everything's great.
And, they really have gotten asurprising amount of, work and
development put into them by theMasters writing team and I
really appreciate that.
David Hernandez (17:41):
So there's lots of, you kind of see the, you
know, the afterwards, you know,we don't have to see in the
game, see the masters, you gotto kind of see the chapters
continue.
What do you see kind of maybethe hope or maybe the future?
Is he kind of just stuck inlimbo?
Like.
No place to go or he's stilltrying to reconcile and Pokemon
masters.
StandardizedBogey (17:56):
I think he's just, he seems desperate.
he really does seem like thisis, I've gotten my second
chance.
I cannot let this go away again.
Masters is very limited in whatthey can do, but he's, he very
much seems like there is nolimit to what he would do in
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order to keep Rocket togetherand most specifically keep
Giovanni from abandoning themagain.
David Hernandez (18:26):
He's worried that he's going to leave him
again.
And it basically, life goes backto how it was before gold,
silver and crystal.
Basically.
StandardizedBogey (18:32):
I mean, he would love it to go back to Gold
Silver.
He, he, he talks about it as,you know, this shining era of
Rocket before Giovanni left atthe end of the games.
And he's like, I'm getting itback there.
That's what I'm going to do.
David Hernandez (18:46):
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
Cause I guess gold, somecrystals was his motivation was
trying to get reconnected, butnow before then he can.
StandardizedBogey (18:52):
Oh yeah, he had, he had hope for those
games.
And then, and then Ethan comesalong and We were just talking
about him today and Proton has aline that is very blatant.
I should have killed that kid.
Everything got ruined because Ididn't kill that kid.
David Hernandez (19:09):
Mm hmm.
Damn.
He that teacher that personalman
StandardizedBogey (19:12):
yes he did.
David Hernandez (19:13):
Mm hmm.
Well, it's crazy cuz you don'treally get that within the
series because
StandardizedBogey (19:18):
Oh yeah.
David Hernandez (19:20):
unless you really sit down and really deep
dive into these characters Youkind of miss it and you have to
do a little bit research on yourown
StandardizedBogey (19:27):
Oh no, they were very flat.
I mean, in Gold, Silver, andCrystal, they didn't even have
unique sprites.
Proton was a grunt.
I mean, he wasn't even anexecutive in the original games.
But HeartGold, Tried it at leastgave them sprites, but Let's go
Pikachu and Eevee, Archershowing up in that a lot did a
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lot for him and then Masters hasreally taken the ball and run
with it in a shocking way Butit's made these characters
interesting Which is you know,one of the best things about
Masters is it'll take under usecharacters and really massage a
interesting person out of them.
David Hernandez (20:11):
And it sounds like like you said, both Archer
and Saturn, they both have thesimilar to where they're very
important, but they also arekind of central, but they're not
the top dog, I guess.
And that's kind of what's drawnyou.
Is it just that, I guess,passion of them trying to pursue
getting connected to that leaderis kind of why I interest you
from both the angles.
Yeah,
StandardizedBogey (20:30):
to them.
It's, it's how they handle thetwo situations.
How, they kind of trade off whois better at what they're doing
because they're very much thesame person, but Archer will be,
Archer seems to be better atrunning it because he's, he's
better He's better at getting itback together.
He's better at pivoting on hisfeet.
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on his feet versus Saturn who'sultimately a much stronger
person in that Cyrus Leebingdoes not crush him.
He's just like, well, wow, hesucked more than I expected him
to and Now, life's gonna go on.
Versus Archer, who I thinkwalked into the ocean at the end
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of the game.
So.
David Hernandez (21:15):
that's a very depressing to end.
StandardizedBogey (21:19):
He's, he's not okay at the end of, uh,
Hark, Old Soul Sliver.
So,
David Hernandez (21:22):
needs some therapy.
He needs
StandardizedBogey (21:24):
he does.
David Hernandez (21:25):
He needs a group hug.
That's really what he needs.
He'll probably kill us, but heneeds a group hug.
My last question in regards tojust with the, I mean, so the
last thing I want to touch onwhen it comes to this interview,
StandardizedBogey (21:34):
Yeah, of course.
David Hernandez (21:34):
know, early you talked about, you know, you and
your husband met throughPokemon.
Now you have
StandardizedBogey (21:37):
Mm hmm.
David Hernandez (21:37):
who are interested in Pokemon.
What is
StandardizedBogey (21:40):
Mm hmm.
David Hernandez (21:42):
Now you get to kind of pass that down to your
StandardizedBogey (21:44):
I appreciate it a lot, in part because I grew
up as a Pokemon kid and, youknow, if, when you're, when you
are a Pokemon kid, you have alot of those dead eyed stares
from adults.
It's just like, okay, when are,when are they going to stop
talking about this?
And so now it's, I really takethe opportunity to, you know,
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okay, well, tell me more aboutthat.
And, like, really bond withthem.
Like, the other thing they'rereally into is, Minecraft.
And I don't know shit aboutMinecraft, but because of my
experience, I've taken thestance of, you know what, just
explain it to me.
I, I want to hear all of it.
And it's really Become a greatway to bond, which I appreciate
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very much.
David Hernandez (22:28):
How has your kids experienced Pokemon?
Is it primary through the anime
StandardizedBogey (22:30):
Um,
David Hernandez (22:31):
or?
StandardizedBogey (22:33):
the games mostly, but, more of the
characters.
Like, my one son has just fallenin love with Evie To the point
that for Christmas, we got himall of the Eeveelutions, and now
they are the characters in everysingle game.
they're currently downstairs,fighting a fire in Car City that
was caused by a helicoptercrash.
So, you know, that's just how,how their thing goes.
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But, They do play the gamesplenty.
Oh, when I was going through,Legends Arceus, they were pretty
young at the time, but it waslike, you know what's gonna be
cute?
I'm gonna name, this one aftermy one son and this one after my
other son.
And I learned very quickly thatwas a bad idea because whenever
one would faint, they would losetheir mind.
And it's just like, buddy hit mewith a, Super effective.
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There's nothing I could havedone about that.
David Hernandez (23:24):
you're still alive.
It's not meant to be you.
It's
StandardizedBogey (23:26):
Yeah.
Oh, I mean they were they werelittle little and they It was
just like okay, we're gonna finda new name for these guys.
David Hernandez (23:33):
Did you have a particular favorite game that
you enjoyed playing or maybeseries of games?
I know you grew up on Canto andcows is not your favorite.
StandardizedBogey (23:40):
Oh, yeah I think oris is my favorite of the
series.
Archie and maxi are good as aconcept, but they had the same
writing maxi was brain dead inthe original RWBY and they
turned them into much bettercharacters and much more
interesting characters and thenthe flying mechanic around Hoenn
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was one of the most magicalexperiences.
and then I, I honestly do have avery big soft spot for the Let's
Go games because that was thefirst time that Pokemon felt as
alive as it did in my head whenI was 10.
just seeing the Pokemon for thefirst time just crawling around
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in the grass and flying throughthe air And you're not being you
know, this isn't a cut scene.
This is just how the world isand it actually felt vibrant
And, that they also just tookthis character who had, I think
he had maybe four lines in theoriginal game, and turned him
into a person.
It's just like, yeah, okay.
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I, I love it.
David Hernandez (24:47):
I think that, you know, Let's Go definitely
and ORAS are kind of thecrawling before we see what we
now with Pokemon Scarlet andViolet and Pokemon Sword and
Shield.
I agree with ORAS.
Um, with Pokemon Ruby andSapphire, that was my biggest
gripe is that I never understoodTeam Aqua's motivation.
It didn't make much sense to me,especially based on how it was
laid out.
And it was Cookie Cutter.
They both said the same thing.
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There wasn't really anythingthat Separated the two, but then
you have R.
A.
S.
and they really put a lot moredepth into separating and making
their more distinct characters.
You've got Maxis kind of likethe, I don't want to say smart
snob, but that's what the vibehe gave me.
And then you got Archie, who'sthe very aggressive, like you
could just see the differencescompared to Pokemon Ruby and
Sapphire.
But then, like you said, theflying mechanic, the Latias or
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Latias, Mega Latias, you get tofly through.
That's what we do now with,
StandardizedBogey (25:32):
It was, it was crazy, and, I was, man, I, I
have to say I was deeplydisappoint the one thing that I
was disappointed with, with,Scarlet Violet, and I love the,
I mean, I maxed out the decks, Ihave 100 percent of them, I love
them, was that Turo and Satahave the same dialogue.
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And it's just like, when it wascoming out, it's like, please
don't pull an Archie and Maxie,and they sure did.
what I was really hoping wasthat, when they presented us
with Turo and Sada, that youhave two very diametrically
opposed viewpoints.
Give us Oris Archie and Maxie,not Ruby Sapphire.
Emerald, Archie and Maxie, andthey give us Ruby Sapphire and
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Emerald, Archie and Maxie withthe two of them.
I was so disappointed with that.
but otherwise I love, I reallygenuinely love Scarlet Violet.
It's, it's a great cast, butthat, that really ate at me.
It's like they're the samedialogue.
Why are they doing that
David Hernandez (26:33):
Oh, it's, yeah.
Well, it's Pokemon,unfortunately.
We gotta have It
StandardizedBoge (26:36):
Unfortunately,
David Hernandez (26:37):
but some They do good, though.
That's the hard part.
That's what makes it
StandardizedBogey (26:39):
oh yeah.
David Hernandez (26:40):
such good work, and then they just take it back
sometimes.
But I agree with you.
Scarlet and Violet, the samestuff we have with Ruby and
Sapphire.
Just same dialogue.
There really wasn't muchdifference.
You just know that they're boththe
StandardizedBogey (26:51):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (26:52):
Yeah, same motivations.
StandardizedBogey (26:53):
Yeah, unfortunately.
At least it didn't, you know, atleast it wasn't a Lysander
situation where it's like, well,it doesn't make sense, this
dialogue.
But,
David Hernandez (27:01):
Well, standardized bogey, thank you
for coming on the podcast beforeyou go I want to ask
StandardizedBogey (27:06):
Uh huh.
David Hernandez (27:07):
Pokemon question If somebody was gonna
come battle you six on six, whatsix Pokemon would you bring?
StandardizedBogey (27:13):
Oh my God.
Um, I, I don't, I, that is ahard one.
I, I have bonded so hard with myScarlet Violet team and they
have a deep, which I found outof course at the Elite four.
They have a deep problem withground.
So the team that I wanna comefight with, uh, you come at me
with Claude Zi.
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Even though I have a Cloudsire,it's gonna die.
I love, I love my Gengar.
I love my Gyarados.
I love, I miss my Talonflame.
Yes.
Uh, my tinton was exceptional.
And, uh, okay, let's see.
Where are we at?
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I know now I'm trying to think.
Uh, you know what, I'm throwingin a wimple just to be the team
mascot.
'cause I can't think of anyoneright now.
And I love Worm Bowl.
Mm-hmm
David Hernandez (28:05):
all right.
We're getting some love.
I love it.
StandardizedBogey (28:07):
Yep.
He's a great little guy.
I love that.
I love the party he has.
David Hernandez (28:12):
Standardized bogey.
Thank you for coming on thepodcast.
Before you go, people want tocheck out your writing.
If they want to connect withyou, where can they go?
By all means, please plug away
StandardizedBogey (28:20):
Yes, I am standardized bogey over on AO3.
I am, AcreTwins over on Twitter,and I'm also standardized bogey
over on Tumblr, and that's whereI am the most of the time.
I
I'm standardized bogey, and this is
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my Pokemon story.
David Hernandez (00:41):
Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where we
interview people about theirexperience with Pokemon.
My name is David Hernandez.
I'm joined by standardizedbogey, a Pokemon fanfic writer
here to share the inspirationand their experience with
Pokemon standardized.
Welcome to the podcast.
StandardizedBogey (01:00):
Thank you for having me.
David Hernandez (01:01):
Absolutely.
And we're going to dive into somany things.
I have a heart for writing.
I have a heart for Pokemon, butI want to kind of start from the
beginning.
So what's your first experiencewith Pokemon?
StandardizedBogey (01:11):
Pokemon Blue came out when I was 10, so I
have not missed a title sincethen.
And it's become a part of mylife.
It was how I met my husband.
My kids are now downstairsplaying with Pokemon cards and
they have an entire set ofEeveelution plushies, so it's
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just part of my life.
David Hernandez (01:33):
So blue was your first game.
What was it like to kind of
StandardizedBogey (01:35):
Yes.
David Hernandez (01:36):
game?
StandardizedBogey (01:37):
I loved that game.
I was immediately doing all ofthe things.
I maxed out the decks.
it was my first introduction tovideo games, really, because I
was never a video game kid, butin that came with understanding
that the anime telling youliterally any Pokemon can be
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strong if you just love themenough was not actually the way
the game mechanic worked.
David Hernandez (02:04):
Although we liked you as much as we could,
right?
StandardizedBogey (02:07):
It was, it was quite the shock when my
Raticate, you know, didn't,didn't do so great.
David Hernandez (02:12):
Hey, I still believed in Raticate, man.
That hyper thing, I alwaysbelieved it was OP sometimes.
StandardizedBogey (02:16):
You know what, I did a normal only run
when I was an adult and that wasthe star of my team.
He, he redeemed himself.
David Hernandez (02:26):
You said you weren't a video game person
growing up.
what do you think it was aboutPokémon that kind of maybe
changed that?
Or maybe was different comparedto the other video games around
at the time?
StandardizedBogey (02:35):
I was always very much an animal person, so,
you told me that there was athing that all of my friends
were into, but also I could havea dog and a pony and a cat and
all this other stuff.
It's like, yeah, okay.
David Hernandez (02:48):
It's like, oh, I could have all, I can have
everything in my cake and I
StandardizedBogey (02:51):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I had a fire horse.
I mean, what am I going tocomplain about?
David Hernandez (02:55):
Oh my gosh.
Ponytail's such an underratedPokemon
StandardizedBogey (02:57):
It's a great Pokémon.
David Hernandez (02:59):
Mm.
Did you have a favorite Pokemon,I guess to even now, like what's
your favorite Pokemon?
StandardizedBogey (03:03):
I've always fallen in love with Gengar.
I'm actually genuinely shockedhow much merch it has.
Because it's so funny, it'salways like, Pikachu and
Clefairy Gengar.
You know?
It's this little goblin sittingwith all these cute little
things.
but at the same time I have aGyarados on basically every team
I've ever done.
Just cause he's just always beenthere for me so I can't not play
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with him.
David Hernandez (03:25):
Oh, that's fair.
I always played REOs when I, thefirst, play through in red,
blue, and yellow, and I got torelive it in har gold soul
silver.
So I've always had a very softspot for REOs, especially
getting that magic carp to level20.
I was always a
StandardizedBogey (03:37):
Oh yeah, it's, it's so hard, but I'm
always, I have to buy theMagikarp when I pass by that
Pokemon Center.
I, I try not to, and I buy itanyway.
David Hernandez (03:47):
Oh, you try.
I just gave up.
I just go ahead and click A andsay, yeah, I'll take that.
I'll pay five bucks for this.
StandardizedBogey (03:51):
Basically, basically, you get it, you get
it faster, so you know, I'lltake the dead weight.
David Hernandez (03:56):
When it came to Pokemon, did you stick with it
throughout, even after Gen 1?
Like, did you play Johto, Hoenn?
Like, how far did this go along?
StandardizedBogey (04:03):
I've played every single game, but how much
I'll actually go back andrevisit them, is more the change
because there are some regionslike Hoenn and Sinnoh and, now,
you know, Canto, just because itjust keeps coming back that I
revisit over and over versusKalos.
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I've had no interest in goingback.
David Hernandez (04:25):
The same with me.
I like going to Canto, Hoenn.
Sinnoh with recent BDSP ispretty interesting.
I can't get into Kalos.
it just, it's a
StandardizedBogey (04:34):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (04:35):
don't, I look at it.
I'm like, eh, you're there.
StandardizedBogey (04:38):
You know, I, love Kalos in the mechanics that
it has to explore.
I think it has some of the mostfun and interesting
environments.
But at the same time, you know,I, very much into the characters
and the story and the writing.
And Sycamore just kind of, wow,that's a really good point when
Lysander was like, hey, maybe weshould omnicide everybody.
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Yeah, I was like, I don't thinkI'm going to come back to this
game, and I haven't.
David Hernandez (05:05):
I know earlier you said that you got a chance
to meet your husband throughPokemon.
Are you willing to kind of shareyour story and like, what led to
that?
StandardizedBogey (05:12):
Oh yeah, so, we were actually, a little bit
different than that, we wereactually stand partners in band.
But, when we first decided, youknow, to spend some time outside
of school, that was when Thecard game was just starting to
really take hold in America andwe spent a good two hours in a
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burger place just discussingPokemon cards and we really
didn't stop after that and wejust got closer and closer until
we ended up getting married andit's been, oh goodness gracious,
it's been, it'll be 13 years inSeptember.
David Hernandez (05:54):
That's crazy.
So when TCG was starting to grabhold back here in the states,
you and your husband justhappened to meet and y'all have
been Pokemon fans together eversince.
That's such an amazing cutestory.
StandardizedBogey (06:03):
Yeah, no, I love it.
David Hernandez (06:05):
Do y'all play the games together?
Cards together?
Like, what is that like, evenafter post marriage?
Like, do y'all,
StandardizedBogey (06:10):
Um.
David Hernandez (06:11):
kind of like a date night kind of thing?
StandardizedBogey (06:12):
yeah, though, he's kind of straight into other
games, but I'll have the Switchhooked up to the TV so he'll be
watching me go through it andwe'll be talking through
everything.
David Hernandez (06:22):
Hmm.
StandardizedBogey (06:23):
while he does, uh, hooked on Bellatro
right now.
So he's on that and, he actuallyput it down for the Sada fight,
Which was big, I appreciatedthat.
You know, that was a greatfight.
David Hernandez (06:36):
Who's the better Pokemon trainer between
y'all if y'all battle?
Like, are you going to beat himor is he going to beat you?
StandardizedBogey (06:40):
If he actually worked at it, I think
he would destroy me, but hehasn't worked at it in years, so
I'm saying that I would
David Hernandez (06:48):
I was going to say, this is the point
StandardizedBogey (06:49):
Oh yeah.
David Hernandez (06:50):
confident and say, like, yeah, I'll destroy
the
StandardizedBogey (06:51):
yeah.
David Hernandez (06:52):
has no
StandardizedBogey (06:52):
Well,
David Hernandez (06:53):
against Cynthia.
StandardizedBogey (06:54):
you know, he had a executor named Breakfast,
and I have never stopped holdinga grudge against that thing.
So,
David Hernandez (07:05):
So you're not really a breakfast person, I
take it.
StandardizedBogey (07:08):
not anymore, no.
David Hernandez (07:10):
Y'all met through the TCG, so do y'all
collect cards too?
Is that kind of something y'allhave on the side?
StandardizedBogey (07:15):
I, I collect them more to just for the
pictures these days because theart is, often be stunning, but,
I'm more into, the games andthe, mangas and, and, fan scene
versus the TCG.
It's gotten, it's gotten toocompetitive for, for me to keep
up with as a casual,unfortunately.
David Hernandez (07:36):
No, I feel that because whenever I go to the
card shows I see the card artI'm like where was this when I
was younger and it's justamazing the drawings and the
different cards than how I guessPokemon has Kind of evolved in a
sense to display this kind ofdifferent touches on Pokemon
from different artists.
It's amazing
StandardizedBogey (07:52):
It's incredible.
David Hernandez (07:53):
Now, I know you talked about how, you know, you
do writing and you focus on someof the characters and I kind of
wanted to dive into first, whatmade you want to start writing?
What led you to become like afanfic writer for Pokemon?
StandardizedBogey (08:06):
well, I've been writing since I could
write.
I've heard other writersdescribe it as, it's a need to
create.
It's not something you reallychoose, and like, an idea will
eat at you until you get it outon the paper.
What brought me back intoPokemon, because I had taken,
uh, I still liked it, but I hadkind of taken a break from it,
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was, Games Done Quick had donean Oris speed run, and I think
it might have been a race, but,I just remembered how much I, I
adored Oris, and then I slippedback in, and I haven't gotten
back out since.
David Hernandez (08:45):
And what did you do when it came to writing?
So you just start writing aboutAuris or,
StandardizedBogey (08:50):
I had written, back when Wurst came
out, I had, I had a couple andso I dug those up and one of
them, it's like, you know what,this is, this is good enough for
me to do a rewrite with my,current skills.
And I think it turned out prettyokay, but then I was like, well
I'm gonna do like a one shotabout, Saturn.
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And, I have now written abouthim pretty much more than any
other character, which I was notexpecting when it started, but,
you know, here we are.
David Hernandez (09:20):
I noticed that Saturn was a lot of your main
character when it came to thefanfics.
what was it about Saturnspecifically?
Was there just something abouthis character that kind of drew
you and inspired you to kind ofwant to write fanfic just for a
Saturn?
StandardizedBogey (09:33):
he is probably the most interesting of
the subordinates for the villainteams.
He's got a lot of complexitiesto him that you really don't
tend to see.
what's also interesting abouthim is that the more you read on
him, the more you realize that,no two writers can ever agree
who he is, but there'sconsistencies in him, and
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there's a determination in himthat, you know, this is not how
it's going to be, I am going tofix it.
However, whatever He considersit to be, and however he
considers it to be fixed, he'sgoing to do it.
And he's just such aninteresting character to me that
I haven't been able to get offhim.
David Hernandez (10:17):
Is it more of the sense that two writers can't
find out their motivation or isit more of, the reason why he
exists in the world is where Iguess disagreement happens from
your perspective.
StandardizedBogey (10:29):
It's really interesting because when you
look at Galactic, the teamdynamics and who each character
is will change very much betweeniterations, we have, the anime,
we have the game, we have thetwo mangas, and, all those
writers took very differentstances on what they are, known
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more than Saturn, because in oneversion he's this lazy tech
gamer, and in another version,he's doing literally everything.
I don't think the man has evertaken a break in his life.
And another version, he's theteam muscle, and then the other
one, he's, he seems to be justlike an in office administrator.
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It's, it's just crazy how, howmuch disagreement there seems to
be on what his role should be inthe team.
David Hernandez (11:20):
Interesting.
It seems like he's just, theywant him to be everything.
Basically be the glue of TeamGalactic and the Artists just
view him as like he's, it soundslike they at least view him as
important That's probably whythey can't decide on what his
role is
StandardizedBogey (11:35):
No, he's, he, he is generally the second in
command, and he's, Cyrus isalmost like a distant figurehead
when you look at it.
If he's wandering around, he'sby himself and the things he's
doing are not, they'reimportant, but they're not
crucial.
Uh, Saturn is generally the onewho's actually taking care of
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everything He's.
tends to be the reason thatanything that actually happened
happened.
David Hernandez (12:04):
I
StandardizedBogey (12:04):
Um,
David Hernandez (12:05):
because I remember whenever some, a
mission would go down you like Isaid You don't see Cyrus too
often.
You saw mostly Saturn come frombehind the scenes in, he was
kind of the The one who calledthe shots in a way, but then you
StandardizedBogey (12:16):
yeah.
David Hernandez (12:16):
of just the second in command.
I, if that makes sense, I knowit's kind of cliche what I just
said, but still.
StandardizedBogey (12:21):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, Cyrus just kind ofwalks around Sinnoh and will
just kind of look at stuff andhis, his team is, are the ones
who are actually doing things,so.
David Hernandez (12:33):
I wonder
StandardizedBogey (12:33):
Yeah, it's funny.
David Hernandez (12:34):
if maybe Cyrus views Saturn as the reliable
person.
Maybe that's why we see him
StandardizedBogey (12:39):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (12:39):
perspective that, oh, I don't need to be
involved because I know Saturnwill kind of take care of it.
StandardizedBogey (12:44):
that's definitely seems to be At least
how in the game Saturn willdescribe their relationship,
that this is very interesting,and I wanted to be right next to
him, seeing what he was going todo.
And that's another reason whyit's so interesting, because
that's not always the case.
In, like, in the anime, he'shandling everything, and other
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times it's clear that Jupiteroutranks him.
so he's, he's taking a stepback, and yet he's still the one
handling everything, somehow.
And, it's just, he's a, he's amuch more interesting character
than I expected.
Just, looking at him, and, hey,he's got neat hair.
Um, maybe I'll, you know, checkhim out a little.
David Hernandez (13:28):
they all have neat hair, man.
I wish I had their
StandardizedBogey (13:30):
They do.
David Hernandez (14:36):
I know another one that you did was Team
Rocket, and specifically did afanfic on Archer, I believe,
right?
What about
StandardizedBogey (14:43):
Yes,
David Hernandez (14:43):
I guess, inspired you to want to start
writing about?
StandardizedBogey (14:46):
Archer almost seems like a prototype of Saturn
in that, you know, you have theexceedingly dedicated
subordinate who, runningeverything but like the
difference Archer really neededmasters and let's go Pikachu
for, character developmentbecause he got nothing in the
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game he's just like well that'sthe end I can't do anything else
I'm sorry I'm gone versus Saturnwhich is Part of the reason I
glommed onto him harder was, no,no, we're, we're gonna fix this.
I'm gonna take responsibility.
I'm gonna take care of everyoneand that's where it's gonna be.
But, Archer's development inMasters has been very
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interesting because, he's a veryrepressed man.
He's got a lot of deep trustissues and, a lot of pride in
himself, but you can tell justlike under the surface of what
his words are, that pride inhimself is entirely dependent on
his job and having Giovannistick around this time.
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And, uh,
David Hernandez (15:52):
It's almost like when Giovanni, I guess,
disappeared, it became like ahole in him, basically, and his
motivation is to try to havethat reconnection and have that
importance.
Is that kind of?
How it is from your perspective.
StandardizedBogey (16:02):
Yeah, I mean, not even my perspective, that's,
he'll flat out say like, I ranthis, I did it to keep it going
so he could come back andeverything's better because he's
here.
I don't want that top position,despite the fact that if he
could run Rocket for years onhis own, he can do it.
David Hernandez (16:22):
Mm hmm.
StandardizedBogey (16:23):
but he wants to be with Giovanni, and he
wants everything for Giovanni,and that's all he cares about.
David Hernandez (16:31):
I think it really touches on the team
rocket inspiration, which is theYakuza and Yakuza for those who
don't know, it's kind of like agang basically.
And usually people, why theyjoin gangs is they don't really
have a place to belong and that,that gang becomes your identity.
And when you think about it,when Giovanni was defeated in
Kanto, it basically, you know,of course dismantled everything
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that was built up, but for,Archer.
What's his motive?
What does he have left?
It's basically he, he had adeath basically.
He doesn't know what he is now.
And I think he, it sounds likehe struggles with trying to find
that next chapter in life.
StandardizedBogey (17:05):
Yeah, he, he does.
And that's one of the mostinteresting things about them
coming into masters is,especially if you're reading
like their day with now that theexecutives are playable, you get
a day with with them.
David Hernandez (17:19):
Mm
StandardizedBogey (17:19):
None of them are okay.
They are all dead.
deeply traumatized by whathappened to them in HeartGold
SoulSilver, and rather thandealing with that, they're just
like, hey Giovanni's back,everything's great.
And, they really have gotten asurprising amount of, work and
development put into them by theMasters writing team and I
really appreciate that.
David Hernandez (17:41):
So there's lots of, you kind of see the, you
know, the afterwards, you know,we don't have to see in the
game, see the masters, you gotto kind of see the chapters
continue.
What do you see kind of maybethe hope or maybe the future?
Is he kind of just stuck inlimbo?
Like.
No place to go or he's stilltrying to reconcile and Pokemon
masters.
StandardizedBogey (17:56):
I think he's just, he seems desperate.
he really does seem like thisis, I've gotten my second
chance.
I cannot let this go away again.
Masters is very limited in whatthey can do, but he's, he very
much seems like there is nolimit to what he would do in
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order to keep Rocket togetherand most specifically keep
Giovanni from abandoning themagain.
David Hernandez (18:26):
He's worried that he's going to leave him
again.
And it basically, life goes backto how it was before gold,
silver and crystal.
Basically.
StandardizedBogey (18:32):
I mean, he would love it to go back to Gold
Silver.
He, he, he talks about it as,you know, this shining era of
Rocket before Giovanni left atthe end of the games.
And he's like, I'm getting itback there.
That's what I'm going to do.
David Hernandez (18:46):
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
Cause I guess gold, somecrystals was his motivation was
trying to get reconnected, butnow before then he can.
StandardizedBogey (18:52):
Oh yeah, he had, he had hope for those
games.
And then, and then Ethan comesalong and We were just talking
about him today and Proton has aline that is very blatant.
I should have killed that kid.
Everything got ruined because Ididn't kill that kid.
David Hernandez (19:09):
Mm hmm.
Damn.
He that teacher that personalman
StandardizedBogey (19:12):
yes he did.
David Hernandez (19:13):
Mm hmm.
Well, it's crazy cuz you don'treally get that within the
series because
StandardizedBogey (19:18):
Oh yeah.
David Hernandez (19:20):
unless you really sit down and really deep
dive into these characters Youkind of miss it and you have to
do a little bit research on yourown
StandardizedBogey (19:27):
Oh no, they were very flat.
I mean, in Gold, Silver, andCrystal, they didn't even have
unique sprites.
Proton was a grunt.
I mean, he wasn't even anexecutive in the original games.
But HeartGold, Tried it at leastgave them sprites, but Let's go
Pikachu and Eevee, Archershowing up in that a lot did a
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lot for him and then Masters hasreally taken the ball and run
with it in a shocking way Butit's made these characters
interesting Which is you know,one of the best things about
Masters is it'll take under usecharacters and really massage a
interesting person out of them.
David Hernandez (20:11):
And it sounds like like you said, both Archer
and Saturn, they both have thesimilar to where they're very
important, but they also arekind of central, but they're not
the top dog, I guess.
And that's kind of what's drawnyou.
Is it just that, I guess,passion of them trying to pursue
getting connected to that leaderis kind of why I interest you
from both the angles.
Yeah,
StandardizedBogey (20:30):
to them.
It's, it's how they handle thetwo situations.
How, they kind of trade off whois better at what they're doing
because they're very much thesame person, but Archer will be,
Archer seems to be better atrunning it because he's, he's
better He's better at getting itback together.
He's better at pivoting on hisfeet.
(20:52):
on his feet versus Saturn who'sultimately a much stronger
person in that Cyrus Leebingdoes not crush him.
He's just like, well, wow, hesucked more than I expected him
to and Now, life's gonna go on.
Versus Archer, who I thinkwalked into the ocean at the end
(21:13):
of the game.
So.
David Hernandez (21:15):
that's a very depressing to end.
StandardizedBogey (21:19):
He's, he's not okay at the end of, uh,
Hark, Old Soul Sliver.
So,
David Hernandez (21:22):
needs some therapy.
He needs
StandardizedBogey (21:24):
he does.
David Hernandez (21:25):
He needs a group hug.
That's really what he needs.
He'll probably kill us, but heneeds a group hug.
My last question in regards tojust with the, I mean, so the
last thing I want to touch onwhen it comes to this interview,
StandardizedBogey (21:34):
Yeah, of course.
David Hernandez (21:34):
know, early you talked about, you know, you and
your husband met throughPokemon.
Now you have
StandardizedBogey (21:37):
Mm hmm.
David Hernandez (21:37):
who are interested in Pokemon.
What is
StandardizedBogey (21:40):
Mm hmm.
David Hernandez (21:42):
Now you get to kind of pass that down to your
StandardizedBogey (21:44):
I appreciate it a lot, in part because I grew
up as a Pokemon kid and, youknow, if, when you're, when you
are a Pokemon kid, you have alot of those dead eyed stares
from adults.
It's just like, okay, when are,when are they going to stop
talking about this?
And so now it's, I really takethe opportunity to, you know,
(22:05):
okay, well, tell me more aboutthat.
And, like, really bond withthem.
Like, the other thing they'rereally into is, Minecraft.
And I don't know shit aboutMinecraft, but because of my
experience, I've taken thestance of, you know what, just
explain it to me.
I, I want to hear all of it.
And it's really Become a greatway to bond, which I appreciate
(22:26):
very much.
David Hernandez (22:28):
How has your kids experienced Pokemon?
Is it primary through the anime
StandardizedBogey (22:30):
Um,
David Hernandez (22:31):
or?
StandardizedBogey (22:33):
the games mostly, but, more of the
characters.
Like, my one son has just fallenin love with Evie To the point
that for Christmas, we got himall of the Eeveelutions, and now
they are the characters in everysingle game.
they're currently downstairs,fighting a fire in Car City that
was caused by a helicoptercrash.
So, you know, that's just how,how their thing goes.
(22:57):
But, They do play the gamesplenty.
Oh, when I was going through,Legends Arceus, they were pretty
young at the time, but it waslike, you know what's gonna be
cute?
I'm gonna name, this one aftermy one son and this one after my
other son.
And I learned very quickly thatwas a bad idea because whenever
one would faint, they would losetheir mind.
And it's just like, buddy hit mewith a, Super effective.
(23:21):
There's nothing I could havedone about that.
David Hernandez (23:24):
you're still alive.
It's not meant to be you.
It's
StandardizedBogey (23:26):
Yeah.
Oh, I mean they were they werelittle little and they It was
just like okay, we're gonna finda new name for these guys.
David Hernandez (23:33):
Did you have a particular favorite game that
you enjoyed playing or maybeseries of games?
I know you grew up on Canto andcows is not your favorite.
StandardizedBogey (23:40):
Oh, yeah I think oris is my favorite of the
series.
Archie and maxi are good as aconcept, but they had the same
writing maxi was brain dead inthe original RWBY and they
turned them into much bettercharacters and much more
interesting characters and thenthe flying mechanic around Hoenn
(24:02):
was one of the most magicalexperiences.
and then I, I honestly do have avery big soft spot for the Let's
Go games because that was thefirst time that Pokemon felt as
alive as it did in my head whenI was 10.
just seeing the Pokemon for thefirst time just crawling around
(24:25):
in the grass and flying throughthe air And you're not being you
know, this isn't a cut scene.
This is just how the world isand it actually felt vibrant
And, that they also just tookthis character who had, I think
he had maybe four lines in theoriginal game, and turned him
into a person.
It's just like, yeah, okay.
(24:46):
I, I love it.
David Hernandez (24:47):
I think that, you know, Let's Go definitely
and ORAS are kind of thecrawling before we see what we
now with Pokemon Scarlet andViolet and Pokemon Sword and
Shield.
I agree with ORAS.
Um, with Pokemon Ruby andSapphire, that was my biggest
gripe is that I never understoodTeam Aqua's motivation.
It didn't make much sense to me,especially based on how it was
laid out.
And it was Cookie Cutter.
They both said the same thing.
(25:07):
There wasn't really anythingthat Separated the two, but then
you have R.
A.
S.
and they really put a lot moredepth into separating and making
their more distinct characters.
You've got Maxis kind of likethe, I don't want to say smart
snob, but that's what the vibehe gave me.
And then you got Archie, who'sthe very aggressive, like you
could just see the differencescompared to Pokemon Ruby and
Sapphire.
But then, like you said, theflying mechanic, the Latias or
(25:29):
Latias, Mega Latias, you get tofly through.
That's what we do now with,
StandardizedBogey (25:32):
It was, it was crazy, and, I was, man, I, I
have to say I was deeplydisappoint the one thing that I
was disappointed with, with,Scarlet Violet, and I love the,
I mean, I maxed out the decks, Ihave 100 percent of them, I love
them, was that Turo and Satahave the same dialogue.
(25:53):
And it's just like, when it wascoming out, it's like, please
don't pull an Archie and Maxie,and they sure did.
what I was really hoping wasthat, when they presented us
with Turo and Sada, that youhave two very diametrically
opposed viewpoints.
Give us Oris Archie and Maxie,not Ruby Sapphire.
Emerald, Archie and Maxie, andthey give us Ruby Sapphire and
(26:16):
Emerald, Archie and Maxie withthe two of them.
I was so disappointed with that.
but otherwise I love, I reallygenuinely love Scarlet Violet.
It's, it's a great cast, butthat, that really ate at me.
It's like they're the samedialogue.
Why are they doing that
David Hernandez (26:33):
Oh, it's, yeah.
Well, it's Pokemon,unfortunately.
We gotta have It
StandardizedBoge (26:36):
Unfortunately,
David Hernandez (26:37):
but some They do good, though.
That's the hard part.
That's what makes it
StandardizedBogey (26:39):
oh yeah.
David Hernandez (26:40):
such good work, and then they just take it back
sometimes.
But I agree with you.
Scarlet and Violet, the samestuff we have with Ruby and
Sapphire.
Just same dialogue.
There really wasn't muchdifference.
You just know that they're boththe
StandardizedBogey (26:51):
Yeah.
David Hernandez (26:52):
Yeah, same motivations.
StandardizedBogey (26:53):
Yeah, unfortunately.
At least it didn't, you know, atleast it wasn't a Lysander
situation where it's like, well,it doesn't make sense, this
dialogue.
But,
David Hernandez (27:01):
Well, standardized bogey, thank you
for coming on the podcast beforeyou go I want to ask
StandardizedBogey (27:06):
Uh huh.
David Hernandez (27:07):
Pokemon question If somebody was gonna
come battle you six on six, whatsix Pokemon would you bring?
StandardizedBogey (27:13):
Oh my God.
Um, I, I don't, I, that is ahard one.
I, I have bonded so hard with myScarlet Violet team and they
have a deep, which I found outof course at the Elite four.
They have a deep problem withground.
So the team that I wanna comefight with, uh, you come at me
with Claude Zi.
(27:34):
Even though I have a Cloudsire,it's gonna die.
I love, I love my Gengar.
I love my Gyarados.
I love, I miss my Talonflame.
Yes.
Uh, my tinton was exceptional.
And, uh, okay, let's see.
Where are we at?
(27:54):
I know now I'm trying to think.
Uh, you know what, I'm throwingin a wimple just to be the team
mascot.
'cause I can't think of anyoneright now.
And I love Worm Bowl.
Mm-hmm
David Hernandez (28:05):
all right.
We're getting some love.
I love it.
StandardizedBogey (28:07):
Yep.
He's a great little guy.
I love that.
I love the party he has.
David Hernandez (28:12):
Standardized bogey.
Thank you for coming on thepodcast.
Before you go, people want tocheck out your writing.
If they want to connect withyou, where can they go?
By all means, please plug away
StandardizedBogey (28:20):
Yes, I am standardized bogey over on AO3.
I am, AcreTwins over on Twitter,and I'm also standardized bogey
over on Tumblr, and that's whereI am the most of the time.
I
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