January 6, 2025 • 16 mins
We all had a straight male friend who secretly loved Sex and the City in the noughties. Was Dash ‘that guy?’ And more importantly, is he a Samantha, Carrie, Charlotte or Miranda? Tami investigates.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Summer Shames, it's Summer Shames, it's Summer
Shames.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hmm, he says he's not ashamed.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm ashamed, you're ashamed, they should be ashamed.
We call that repressed shame.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, she needs to tame the shame and move on.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Is it a Jewish thing, maybe?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm Tammy Sussman and in this special series of A
Shame to Admit, I'm going tosqueeze some of the chewiest
shames out of TJI's ExecutiveDirector, dr Dachshund Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
While your third cousin overshares her chewiest
faux pas.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Welcome to your weekly dose of Summer Shames.
Hey Dash, did you watch Sex andthe City growing up?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm ashamed to admit that I did.
Yeah, I'd sneak in theoccasional episode.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, because in episode 26, with Nomi Kaltman
about female reproductive rights, I shared a story about my
almost abortion.
That never happened.
And what I didn't share is aconversation that I had with my
sister many years later when Iwas traveling and I had an
(01:28):
incident with a broken condomand I called her from China
actually, where you know isn'treally easy to get a plan B pill
or whatever and my sister and Iused to watch Sex and the City
together growing up.
It used to be on like 9.30 onChannel 9 on a Monday night.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yep, I remember it well.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And my sister and I had this conversation and my
sister literally said to medon't worry, tammy, even Carrie
Bradshaw only had one abortionand Samantha had two, and
they've had a lot more sex thanyou, so the likelihood of you
needing an abortion is prettysmall.
(02:12):
It got me thinking about sex inthe city and I took a sex in
the city quiz to tell me whichcharacter I was, and I was
hoping that you might do thesame, so I'm going to send you a
link.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Please do go for it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And we can do it together.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
One of my best friends he is yeah, he's into
like sport and he's very likemask presenting, loved, loved
Sex and the City so much, and Idon't think he was that ashamed
to admit it either.
And then I came around hishouse one day and this was, like
you know, after Sex and theCity wasn't on television
(02:54):
anymore.
So there was no real excuse forthis behavior, what I'm about
to describe.
But he had just purchasedthrough eBay season seven, eight
and nine on DVD and it had justarrived.
And I asked him about, Iconfronted him about this
purchase and, yeah, I got a bitof a sense that it was not a
(03:17):
dirty secret but like, yeah,like something that he was he
probably wouldn't have offeredup.
There was a little bit ofembarrassment but ultimately he
didn't back down.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I have an almost identical story with one of my
male friends who was also reallyinto Sex and the City.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Wow.
So all of a sudden it appearsthat more and more men actually
were secretly watching Sex andthe City on the down low.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
More and more geriatric millennial men.
Yeah, so he was likeforthcoming with it with the
female friends, but I highlydoubt that he was out of the Sex
and the City closet with hismale friends.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Okay, let's do this.
So pick one of Carrie's loveinterests Mr Big, Aiden Shaw,
Jack Berger or AlexandraPetrovsky.
Okay, this is a very easyquestion.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Why?
Who did you pick?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, the first two, Mr Big and Aiden Shaw, are like
classic.
They're like the main loveinterests that run all the way
through the show.
So I'm going to go with.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So who did you pick, aidan or Mr Big?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, I'm going to go with Aidan.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, what's the city of your dreams?
Paris, london, venice, dubai,tokyo, mumbai, amsterdam, new
York City or Berlin?
As soon as I saw Tokyo, I'mlike this is the city of my
dreams.
I'm going to go with Tokyo,okay.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'm going to go with Amsterdam, but before the
pogroms.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Didn't have any broken condom experiences there.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I've never been.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
To Amsterdam.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
No, never.
But I think that's why it's thecity of my dreams, because I
only have like projected visionsof how cool it would be.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I've been there many times.
It's not that cool.
Oh, really it's pretty and it'sDutch and the Van Gogh Museum
is very cool, but yeah, I don'tknow that I would put it in like
my top 10.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
All right, well, I've picked it anyway, because I've
got big Anne Frank energy.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Your city of the dream.
Yeah yeah, anne Frank, energyGo for it.
Okay, okay, pick one ofMiranda's love interests Steve
Brady, dr Robert Leeds, weightWatchers guy, or Skipper
Chonston Well, I think Mirandaends up having a char with Steve
, so I'm going to say SteveBrady.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I've picked Dr Robert Leeds.
He was my favourite.
I don't remember WeightWatchers guy or Skipper Johnston
.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
What's your style like?
Classic, boho, preppy, romantic, goth, mod, vintage, all black,
everything or whatever?
Our listeners aren't going tobe able to see this, so you're
going to have to do a bit of adescription, but look at what
I'm wearing today, Tammy.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Okay, I'll describe what you're wearing.
You're wearing a white.
Oh, there's a bit of a oh myGod.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
What.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You're wearing Chino shorts.
Yeah, cute Beige Chino shortsand a white linen button-up
shirt.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, and some smart black leather sandals smart
black leather sandals.
Bless you I'm in sydney, as youknow, this morning tammy and I
don't think I would look out ofplace in the eastern suburbs,
but I'm on the other side oftown right now.
I'm in the inner west andgetting a few looks this morning
(06:45):
and not you know, the kind ofhey, where are you going?
Sort of looks, More of the whatthe are you doing walking
around here dressed up?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
like that A bit too preppy for the inner west of
Sydney.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
A bit too preppy.
I would like to think I'mclassic, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Can you describe for our listeners what I'm wearing
today?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Okay.
So Tammy is wearing her hatwhich says shame on it.
Light blue hat, her usualtrademark.
Frames round circular orangelens.
Frames A bit of jewellery slashlooks like something that the
(07:27):
kids may have made at childcare.
Which says hot Jew, it's likechildcare.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's plastic beads.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Craft material Plastic beads.
Thank you, colourful plasticbeads.
I'm not judging the style, I'mjust simply saying it does
literally look like somethingthat Solly has made at childcare
.
And then the T-shirt it'sJewish Girl Summer.
Let's be neurotic on the beachand be blamed by the world.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's a Marcus Pork T-shirt.
A little bit of a contrast here, Okay.
So how would you describe mystyle?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You're pretty eclectic, I would probably say
whatever.
Okay, I think you could dovintage, but I see less of that
and I wouldn't call it boho.
Yeah, you sort of having beendown the golden mile if that's
what you want to call it ofBronte to Bondi this morning, I
(08:25):
would say that your style isvery much like a kind of an FU
to the active wear golden mile.
I don't think I've seen you ina shred of active wear this year
.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
No, I don't wear active wear.
Okay, back to the quiz.
Pick one of Charlotte's loveinterests.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
To the quiz pick one of Charlotte's love interests
Okay, trey McDougall, HarryGoldenblatt, stefan the Chef and
Ned.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, it's Harry, right?
Obviously it's Harry, and notjust because this is a Jewish
podcast.
It's always Harry.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, I thought she ends up with him anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You don't have to choose who she ends up with.
You choose who you liked themost.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh, was that what I was supposed to do?
Yes, sorry.
Well, I was definitely happy topick Aidan, and Harry was a
nice chap from memory.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yep, harry was a nice chap.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And he was a bald man like me, a bit closer to the
skin than me.
I don't go quite as bald asthat.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We love Harry and his hairy back Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
We love bald men.
Which TV show would youmarathon on a night in the Crown
?
13 Reasons why Friends, theWalking Dead, four Weddings, top
Chef, stranger Things, theSimpsons, sex and the City.
Oh God, this is tricky becauseI wouldn't watch any of them and
obviously I grew up loving theSimpsons and I probably could
(09:54):
have my arm twisted to do amarathon night in quote.
End quote.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You love a bit of a marathon.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I love a marathon, but I'm getting through one
season every five years at themoment?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, same, I'm also not watching anything.
I've heard the Crown's verygood stuff.
I've heard.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
The last season of the Crown is shocking, oh really
.
And I heard.
Sorry, spoiler alert everyone.
The ghost of Princess Diappears.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
How tacky and what a terrible way to end what
actually was quite a good series.
Bugger it, I'm going.
Sex and the City.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, so am I.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm doing it for my friend, I'm doing it for you,
don't do it for me, I'm doing itfor Aidan.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Do it for you.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I'm doing it for me.
I could do it.
No, pick one of Samantha's loveinterests Smith, gerard Maria
Reyes, richard Wright and Guywith the Funky Spunk.
Okay, it's got to be Smith.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Handsome fellow.
What's your sign?
Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer,Leo, Virgo I'm not going to list
them all out.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, I left that one out because I'm just not into
signs at all.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Oh, thank you.
I feel so seen and heard by you, Tammy, and I'm kind of
surprised that you're not.
You haven't, unlike the rest ofyour generation, it would seem
dabbled in that.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
First of all, we are of the same generation.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I mean like sorry, I'm going to say, say
something's politicallyincorrect.
A woman of your okay generation, a female assigned at birth of
your generation, a woman of yourparticular milieu, ie, because
you're like, creative and you'reartistic and but I know that
you've got a broad range offriends.
(11:43):
You can't box tam Tammy,sussman, aries, I'm an Aries,
everyone should know that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So am I hey.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
When's your birthday?
April 19th.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's right, I'm March 31st.
We should have a jointcelebration halfway in Broken
Hill.
Celebrate with some Ghost.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, hot ancestors in Broken Hill.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Pick someone to get coffee with Stanford Blatch in
it Anthony Maratino, lexi,featherston, magda or Bill Kelly
the only character I know here,tammy, is Stanford.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, and he's the most fun.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, so I'm going Stanford.
And finally, what makes you sodamn awesome?
And finally, what makes you sodamn awesome?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So what makes you so damn awesome, dash?
Are you funny, pretty rich,powerful, fit, fun, chill,
employed alive?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, what do you think I would say?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Fit.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, of course.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Gonna say that your marathons yes, well, I am fit,
but um, I'm not going to saythat's what makes me so damn
awesome you have to choose fromthis yeah, yeah, I'm just
getting through.
The day is an achievementsometimes, particularly at this
stage in life, at this time inthe year.
I'm alive.
That's what makes me so damnawesome.
(13:07):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Oh, josh, that's a little bit depressing.
Okay, what do you think I chose?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
You should say that I'm fun, you're fun.
But I don't think you wouldhave done that.
I think you're tooself-deprecating.
You're too self-deprecating.
I do a process of eliminationYou're like well not rich,
you're not powerful, you're notchill, you're not employed.
Just narrow them down to threeand pick one.
(13:35):
But then, even though you'reself-deprecating, I also think
you could be like do this one abit ironic.
So I think you actually couldhave put I'm pretty.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
No, I didn't choose that.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm powerful.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm chill, I'm chill.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'm chill.
I did that one ironically.
Yeah, I'm chill.
No, I'll click.
I'm funny.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Some of our listeners may not agree with.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, you're funny sometimes.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Okay, so who are you?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Like where's the bit where I go into my score?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Who are you Dash?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I'm Charlotte.
I am Charlotte.
You definitely have someCarrie-like tendencies, but at
the end of the day you are atruly deep romantic.
You're a total Charlotte.
Try not to take life tooseriously and let loose once in
a while.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
That's pretty accurate Dash.
How do you feel about thatoutcome?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Not true.
It's not true.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh, you don't like it , I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I don't like Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Who did you think you would get?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Out of all the Sex and the City characters I don't
know, like maybe Aiden, out ofall the Sex and the City
characters, I don't know likemaybe Aiden, it's not out of all
of them, it's out of the four.
Oh, okay, or probably Carrie,maybe Miranda, because she's,
like the most sensible out ofall of them.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So you identify as sensible, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Compared to you.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Can you take a guess who I got?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You got Samantha.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So you think I'm a slut?
That's what you're saying.
I mean, I did open with anabortion story, another one.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
In China.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'll tell you exactly how it happened.
I went into a 24-hourconvenience store and there were
different flavoured condoms andone of them was green tea
flavoured and I'm like, well,when in China, let's just say it
was a little bit too muchcaffeine in that condom.
That's how it happened, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Didn't do the job.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Is this how we're going to end today's episode?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, enough talk.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You've been listening to Summer Shames, the Shvitsi
Shvesta podcast of a shame toadmit.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Presented by the Jewish Independent and hosted by
me, Dash Lawrence and TammySussman.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
These episodes are edited by Nick King.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
If you like what we're doing, it's time to wipe
the sunscreen off your hands andleave a review.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Or if you're in a different hemisphere, dash,
because we forgot that some ofour listeners live overseas and
it's not summer there.
Remove your mittens and give ussome stars.
We'll take five of them, thanks.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
As always.
Thanks for the support and welook forward to Kitzel your ears
next week.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You chose Yiddish.
That's very racist.
What about Kosses in Ladino?
Or dig dug in Hebrew?
Tickle, Give your ears a littletickle.
Or zug zug.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I only know Kitzel.
I've got a book about Kitzel.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay.
It's Summer Shames, it's Summer Shames, it's Summer
Shames.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hmm, he says he's not ashamed.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm ashamed, you're ashamed, they should be ashamed.
We call that repressed shame.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, she needs to tame the shame and move on.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Is it a Jewish thing, maybe?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm Tammy Sussman and in this special series of A
Shame to Admit, I'm going tosqueeze some of the chewiest
shames out of TJI's ExecutiveDirector, dr Dachshund Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
While your third cousin overshares her chewiest
faux pas.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Welcome to your weekly dose of Summer Shames.
Hey Dash, did you watch Sex andthe City growing up?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm ashamed to admit that I did.
Yeah, I'd sneak in theoccasional episode.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, because in episode 26, with Nomi Kaltman
about female reproductive rights, I shared a story about my
almost abortion.
That never happened.
And what I didn't share is aconversation that I had with my
sister many years later when Iwas traveling and I had an
(01:28):
incident with a broken condomand I called her from China
actually, where you know isn'treally easy to get a plan B pill
or whatever and my sister and Iused to watch Sex and the City
together growing up.
It used to be on like 9.30 onChannel 9 on a Monday night.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yep, I remember it well.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And my sister and I had this conversation and my
sister literally said to medon't worry, tammy, even Carrie
Bradshaw only had one abortionand Samantha had two, and
they've had a lot more sex thanyou, so the likelihood of you
needing an abortion is prettysmall.
(02:12):
It got me thinking about sex inthe city and I took a sex in
the city quiz to tell me whichcharacter I was, and I was
hoping that you might do thesame, so I'm going to send you a
link.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Please do go for it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And we can do it together.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
One of my best friends he is yeah, he's into
like sport and he's very likemask presenting, loved, loved
Sex and the City so much, and Idon't think he was that ashamed
to admit it either.
And then I came around hishouse one day and this was, like
you know, after Sex and theCity wasn't on television
(02:54):
anymore.
So there was no real excuse forthis behavior, what I'm about
to describe.
But he had just purchasedthrough eBay season seven, eight
and nine on DVD and it had justarrived.
And I asked him about, Iconfronted him about this
purchase and, yeah, I got a bitof a sense that it was not a
(03:17):
dirty secret but like, yeah,like something that he was he
probably wouldn't have offeredup.
There was a little bit ofembarrassment but ultimately he
didn't back down.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I have an almost identical story with one of my
male friends who was also reallyinto Sex and the City.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Wow.
So all of a sudden it appearsthat more and more men actually
were secretly watching Sex andthe City on the down low.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
More and more geriatric millennial men.
Yeah, so he was likeforthcoming with it with the
female friends, but I highlydoubt that he was out of the Sex
and the City closet with hismale friends.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Okay, let's do this.
So pick one of Carrie's loveinterests Mr Big, Aiden Shaw,
Jack Berger or AlexandraPetrovsky.
Okay, this is a very easyquestion.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Why?
Who did you pick?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, the first two, Mr Big and Aiden Shaw, are like
classic.
They're like the main loveinterests that run all the way
through the show.
So I'm going to go with.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So who did you pick, aidan or Mr Big?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, I'm going to go with Aidan.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, what's the city of your dreams?
Paris, london, venice, dubai,tokyo, mumbai, amsterdam, new
York City or Berlin?
As soon as I saw Tokyo, I'mlike this is the city of my
dreams.
I'm going to go with Tokyo,okay.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'm going to go with Amsterdam, but before the
pogroms.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Didn't have any broken condom experiences there.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I've never been.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
To Amsterdam.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
No, never.
But I think that's why it's thecity of my dreams, because I
only have like projected visionsof how cool it would be.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I've been there many times.
It's not that cool.
Oh, really it's pretty and it'sDutch and the Van Gogh Museum
is very cool, but yeah, I don'tknow that I would put it in like
my top 10.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
All right, well, I've picked it anyway, because I've
got big Anne Frank energy.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Your city of the dream.
Yeah yeah, anne Frank, energyGo for it.
Okay, okay, pick one ofMiranda's love interests Steve
Brady, dr Robert Leeds, weightWatchers guy, or Skipper
Chonston Well, I think Mirandaends up having a char with Steve
, so I'm going to say SteveBrady.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I've picked Dr Robert Leeds.
He was my favourite.
I don't remember WeightWatchers guy or Skipper Johnston
.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
What's your style like?
Classic, boho, preppy, romantic, goth, mod, vintage, all black,
everything or whatever?
Our listeners aren't going tobe able to see this, so you're
going to have to do a bit of adescription, but look at what
I'm wearing today, Tammy.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Okay, I'll describe what you're wearing.
You're wearing a white.
Oh, there's a bit of a oh myGod.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
What.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You're wearing Chino shorts.
Yeah, cute Beige Chino shortsand a white linen button-up
shirt.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, and some smart black leather sandals smart
black leather sandals.
Bless you I'm in sydney, as youknow, this morning tammy and I
don't think I would look out ofplace in the eastern suburbs,
but I'm on the other side oftown right now.
I'm in the inner west andgetting a few looks this morning
(06:45):
and not you know, the kind ofhey, where are you going?
Sort of looks, More of the whatthe are you doing walking
around here dressed up?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
like that A bit too preppy for the inner west of
Sydney.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
A bit too preppy.
I would like to think I'mclassic, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Can you describe for our listeners what I'm wearing
today?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Okay.
So Tammy is wearing her hatwhich says shame on it.
Light blue hat, her usualtrademark.
Frames round circular orangelens.
Frames A bit of jewellery slashlooks like something that the
(07:27):
kids may have made at childcare.
Which says hot Jew, it's likechildcare.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's plastic beads.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Craft material Plastic beads.
Thank you, colourful plasticbeads.
I'm not judging the style, I'mjust simply saying it does
literally look like somethingthat Solly has made at childcare
.
And then the T-shirt it'sJewish Girl Summer.
Let's be neurotic on the beachand be blamed by the world.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's a Marcus Pork T-shirt.
A little bit of a contrast here, Okay.
So how would you describe mystyle?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You're pretty eclectic, I would probably say
whatever.
Okay, I think you could dovintage, but I see less of that
and I wouldn't call it boho.
Yeah, you sort of having beendown the golden mile if that's
what you want to call it ofBronte to Bondi this morning, I
(08:25):
would say that your style isvery much like a kind of an FU
to the active wear golden mile.
I don't think I've seen you ina shred of active wear this year
.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
No, I don't wear active wear.
Okay, back to the quiz.
Pick one of Charlotte's loveinterests.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
To the quiz pick one of Charlotte's love interests
Okay, trey McDougall, HarryGoldenblatt, stefan the Chef and
Ned.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, it's Harry, right?
Obviously it's Harry, and notjust because this is a Jewish
podcast.
It's always Harry.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, I thought she ends up with him anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You don't have to choose who she ends up with.
You choose who you liked themost.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh, was that what I was supposed to do?
Yes, sorry.
Well, I was definitely happy topick Aidan, and Harry was a
nice chap from memory.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yep, harry was a nice chap.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And he was a bald man like me, a bit closer to the
skin than me.
I don't go quite as bald asthat.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We love Harry and his hairy back Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
We love bald men.
Which TV show would youmarathon on a night in the Crown
?
13 Reasons why Friends, theWalking Dead, four Weddings, top
Chef, stranger Things, theSimpsons, sex and the City.
Oh God, this is tricky becauseI wouldn't watch any of them and
obviously I grew up loving theSimpsons and I probably could
(09:54):
have my arm twisted to do amarathon night in quote.
End quote.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You love a bit of a marathon.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I love a marathon, but I'm getting through one
season every five years at themoment?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, same, I'm also not watching anything.
I've heard the Crown's verygood stuff.
I've heard.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
The last season of the Crown is shocking, oh really
.
And I heard.
Sorry, spoiler alert everyone.
The ghost of Princess Diappears.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
How tacky and what a terrible way to end what
actually was quite a good series.
Bugger it, I'm going.
Sex and the City.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, so am I.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm doing it for my friend, I'm doing it for you,
don't do it for me, I'm doing itfor Aidan.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Do it for you.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I'm doing it for me.
I could do it.
No, pick one of Samantha's loveinterests Smith, gerard Maria
Reyes, richard Wright and Guywith the Funky Spunk.
Okay, it's got to be Smith.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Handsome fellow.
What's your sign?
Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer,Leo, Virgo I'm not going to list
them all out.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, I left that one out because I'm just not into
signs at all.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Oh, thank you.
I feel so seen and heard by you, Tammy, and I'm kind of
surprised that you're not.
You haven't, unlike the rest ofyour generation, it would seem
dabbled in that.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
First of all, we are of the same generation.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I mean like sorry, I'm going to say, say
something's politicallyincorrect.
A woman of your okay generation, a female assigned at birth of
your generation, a woman of yourparticular milieu, ie, because
you're like, creative and you'reartistic and but I know that
you've got a broad range offriends.
(11:43):
You can't box tam Tammy,sussman, aries, I'm an Aries,
everyone should know that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So am I hey.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
When's your birthday?
April 19th.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's right, I'm March 31st.
We should have a jointcelebration halfway in Broken
Hill.
Celebrate with some Ghost.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, hot ancestors in Broken Hill.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Pick someone to get coffee with Stanford Blatch in
it Anthony Maratino, lexi,featherston, magda or Bill Kelly
the only character I know here,tammy, is Stanford.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, and he's the most fun.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, so I'm going Stanford.
And finally, what makes you sodamn awesome?
And finally, what makes you sodamn awesome?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So what makes you so damn awesome, dash?
Are you funny, pretty rich,powerful, fit, fun, chill,
employed alive?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, what do you think I would say?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Fit.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, of course.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Gonna say that your marathons yes, well, I am fit,
but um, I'm not going to saythat's what makes me so damn
awesome you have to choose fromthis yeah, yeah, I'm just
getting through.
The day is an achievementsometimes, particularly at this
stage in life, at this time inthe year.
I'm alive.
That's what makes me so damnawesome.
(13:07):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Oh, josh, that's a little bit depressing.
Okay, what do you think I chose?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
You should say that I'm fun, you're fun.
But I don't think you wouldhave done that.
I think you're tooself-deprecating.
You're too self-deprecating.
I do a process of eliminationYou're like well not rich,
you're not powerful, you're notchill, you're not employed.
Just narrow them down to threeand pick one.
(13:35):
But then, even though you'reself-deprecating, I also think
you could be like do this one abit ironic.
So I think you actually couldhave put I'm pretty.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
No, I didn't choose that.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm powerful.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm chill, I'm chill.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'm chill.
I did that one ironically.
Yeah, I'm chill.
No, I'll click.
I'm funny.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Some of our listeners may not agree with.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, you're funny sometimes.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Okay, so who are you?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Like where's the bit where I go into my score?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Who are you Dash?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I'm Charlotte.
I am Charlotte.
You definitely have someCarrie-like tendencies, but at
the end of the day you are atruly deep romantic.
You're a total Charlotte.
Try not to take life tooseriously and let loose once in
a while.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
That's pretty accurate Dash.
How do you feel about thatoutcome?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Not true.
It's not true.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh, you don't like it , I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I don't like Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Who did you think you would get?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Out of all the Sex and the City characters I don't
know, like maybe Aiden, out ofall the Sex and the City
characters, I don't know likemaybe Aiden, it's not out of all
of them, it's out of the four.
Oh, okay, or probably Carrie,maybe Miranda, because she's,
like the most sensible out ofall of them.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So you identify as sensible, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Compared to you.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Can you take a guess who I got?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You got Samantha.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So you think I'm a slut?
That's what you're saying.
I mean, I did open with anabortion story, another one.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
In China.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'll tell you exactly how it happened.
I went into a 24-hourconvenience store and there were
different flavoured condoms andone of them was green tea
flavoured and I'm like, well,when in China, let's just say it
was a little bit too muchcaffeine in that condom.
That's how it happened, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Didn't do the job.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Is this how we're going to end today's episode?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, enough talk.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You've been listening to Summer Shames, the Shvitsi
Shvesta podcast of a shame toadmit.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Presented by the Jewish Independent and hosted by
me, Dash Lawrence and TammySussman.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
These episodes are edited by Nick King.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
If you like what we're doing, it's time to wipe
the sunscreen off your hands andleave a review.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Or if you're in a different hemisphere, dash,
because we forgot that some ofour listeners live overseas and
it's not summer there.
Remove your mittens and give ussome stars.
We'll take five of them, thanks.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
As always.
Thanks for the support and welook forward to Kitzel your ears
next week.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You chose Yiddish.
That's very racist.
What about Kosses in Ladino?
Or dig dug in Hebrew?
Tickle, Give your ears a littletickle.
Or zug zug.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I only know Kitzel.
I've got a book about Kitzel.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay.
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