December 5, 2024 • 48 mins
Author of "Conversations with God" and "God Talk", Neale Donald Walsch, was severely down in his life when God started communicating directly with him - radically changing his perspective and life going forward. God tells Neale that "We've got [him] all wrong."
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Hello and welcome to the show.
Today's show is with Neil DonaldWalsh, who's the author of God
Talk and also Conversations withGod.
It's a great program.
You're going to find it veryinteresting.
Neil was in a bad place in hislife several years ago and found
God giving him direction.
And he goes on to change hislife to follow that direction.
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And Thank you for having me.
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He means that God thinks thatwe've got them all wrong.
What can we do about that?
And where do we go from there?
And he also talks about Godbeing pure love.
What does that mean?
And how does that relate to uson a general scale?
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Thanks.
Hello, Neil Donald Walsh.
Thank you, and welcome to theshow.
Nice to meet you today.
SPEAKER_03 (02:01):
Thank you.
It's good to be here.
I appreciate the invitation andthe opportunity.
How can
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
I serve you?
Well, Neil, I just am fascinatedwith your book, God Talk, as
well as Conversations with God,your prior works.
We explore all kinds ofdifferent things here on the
show, ways of new thinking,innovations, spirituality,
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health and wellness across theboard, in the spirit of trying
to help spread the word andbuild a better world.
I just was glad that youaccepted to be on the show today
and wanted to talk to you aboutyour book, God Talk, and other
things as we go along.
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So why don't you introduceyourself first, and then we can
just take it from there.
SPEAKER_03 (02:54):
Okay.
Hi, I'm Neil.
SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (03:01):
Okay, I can give you a longer introduction.
I've written a few books hereand there, and I had an
experience 30 years ago readingnow.
It's funny how time flies,but...
I did have an experience 30years ago in which I felt that I
was actually communicating withthe divine, having a
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conversation with God.
And I was told in thatconversation that we're all
having conversations with Godall the time.
We're just calling it somethingelse, an epiphany or a brilliant
idea or a sudden insight orwomen's intuition, whatever
words we want to use, but thatwe're all having the same
experience where somehow out ofthe blue, something occurs to us
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But what I did that wasdifferent was I wrote it down.
I wrote down what I was hearing,what I was receiving, if you
please.
And then I found myself in mymind asking other questions, and
I would get other answers.
And before I knew it, actually,by golly, I was involved in an
on-paper dialogue,question-answer,
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question-answer,question-answer.
So, you know, I never imaginedthat anyone else would ever see
this, that anyone else wouldever be privy to it.
But then I was told, if youplease, in the conversation,
Neil, you will make of this oneday a book, and it will be
accessed by many people.
And you know what I thought?
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No way in the world.
There's no publishing company.
I mean, I could self-publish it,but no publishing company of
repute is going to publish abook because a guy claims that
he's talking directly to Gus.
It's not going to happen.
Well, in fact, I sent it on adare request.
to a couple of publishers.
I sent my handwritten notes, 0.5copies of my handwritten notes
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and said, would you beinterested in publishing this
material?
And by golly, if one of thosepeople didn't call me back and
say, we love it, we're going toput it out.
And they said, it's a great workof fiction about a guy who
imagines that he's having aconversation with God.
I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,wait a minute.
This is not a work of fiction.
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And the publisher says to me,Mr.
Walsh, are you telling me youthink this actually happened?
I said, I know it did.
That's why I sent it to you.
But I totally get that you don'twant to publish it because it
seems strange and pretty weird.
He said, no, we can put it outas a nonfiction book, but it's
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not going to find 500 readersbecause the average, as a work
of fiction, you could find a lotof people thinking what an
interesting story, but If youwant people to really believe
this happened to you, you're notgoing to find 500 readers.
But we'll put it out, you know,just because we like the
material.
And you know what?
He was right.
The book they published did notfind 500 readers.
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It found 5 million.
Wow.
In 37 languages.
I'm not bragging.
I'm just saying.
So...
When that happened, I realized,oh, maybe I should listen
carefully to what I'm being toldhere.
And maybe we all should.
Maybe all of us should pay moreattention to this whole process
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by which life communicates tolife about life through the
process of life itself.
And then one day, I know youasked for an introduction.
You didn't
SPEAKER_01 (06:29):
expect me to talk for a half hour.
This is great.
Just keep going.
This is wonderful.
SPEAKER_03 (06:33):
Well, then one day I got a call.
which rarely happens to apublished author.
Most authors, they write a book,they have an idea, they put it
into a book form, and they tryto find a publisher who wants to
put it out.
But in this case, my phone rang,and it was a publisher calling
me, a lady who owns a publishingcompany, and she said, would you
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be willing to write a book forus?
I said, well, what do you havein mind?
She said, we'd like to have youwrite a book that explains to
people how they can have theirown experience like the one you
claim to have had.
Is it possible for the averageperson to have conversations
with God?
I said, well, of course it is.
We're doing it all the time.
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We're just calling it somethingelse, a point I just made.
She said, well, could you writea book about that?
I said, sure, sure, I'd be happyto.
So I did, and she titled thebook God Talk.
And you know what she wanted todo?
This publisher, she said, wewant to make a point here with
the book that it's not just oneguy, one person out there in
Oregon who's had thisexperience.
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We want to make it clear thatit's common that people all
throughout the world haveclaimed experiences of divine
intervention, where Godintervenes in their life in a
very personal and direct way.
So she put in an announcement.
She put an invitation up on theinternet inviting people who
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feel they've had a directconversation with God or an
intervention from the divine totell her about it, to send her
an email back.
She said she got hundreds ofemails from around the world,
and she took 10 or 15 of thebest ones, which she thought
were the most interestingstories, and put them in the
book, in the book that we werewriting, that I was writing
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called God Talk, to prove topeople that it isn't just this
guy in Oregon, but it's peopleall over the world So the book
contains a story of a motherwhose ashes came through a
vision of her child, a woman whowas reassured of her health
condition that would be healed,a scientist whose conversations
with the presence of Goddramatically changed his life.
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Lots of stories in that bookfrom people around the world who
are claiming, hey, Walsh isn'tthe only guy who's had this kind
of intervention.
So that's, you know, the briefintroduction.
of who I am and why I'm here,and I appreciate the opportunity
to share that with you.
SPEAKER_01 (09:01):
Thank you, Neil.
That's great.
Can you share with us, you know,obviously your point is that we
can all talk to God and we'reall doing that in our own ways.
However, you know, not all of ushave maybe are as aware of that,
have it be so clear, and havethe experiences such that you
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had.
What about your background?
Can you tell us, I mean, howwere you raised in terms of your
belief system and your faith andwhat got you to that point when
you started having theconversation the first time that
you did that?
SPEAKER_03 (09:37):
Well, good question.
I've always believed in thething called God.
I was raised by my family as aRoman Catholic.
My family were staunchCatholics.
So they put me into a Catholicelementary school and And so I
had received all of the Catholicdoctrine all through my grade
school years.
But I got to tell you, actually,that when I was around 16 or 17,
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I really stepped away from allof that because I found it
difficult to embrace, tocontinue to hold as my own
truth, some of the things thatthe Catholic Church was teaching
me.
And so I started looking atother faiths because I didn't
want to give up my entire beliefin God.
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But I thought maybe it's justthe doctrine of the Catholic
Church that bothers me.
And I checked into the BaptistChurch, the Methodist Church,
the Lutheran Church.
I looked at the Jewish religionseriously.
I took a look at the Muslimfaith tradition.
I found myself fascinated byBuddhism.
I just really, you know, inmy...
late teens and early 20s, I waslooking at all the belief
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systems I could get my hands onbook-wise and reading stuff just
to try to figure out what'sgoing on with this thing about
God.
But you know what?
There were so many divergentpoints of view.
I don't know whether you'reaware of it right now, but you
can Google this.
I'm not making this story up.
There are 4,223 religions nowbeing practiced on the earth.
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Not from the beginning of time,being practiced today.
on the planet.
So, you know, I finally decided,okay, obviously we can't agree
on who and what this thing isthat we call a higher power, but
whether we can agree on itdoctrinally or not, one thing is
interesting.
Surveys have shown, sociologistshave taken surveys in country
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after country that indicate thateight out of 10 people would say
yes when they're asked a simplequestion.
Do you believe in some kind ofhigher power?
So we can't agree on what thehigher power is and what it
wants and what it does if itdoesn't get what it wants and
all of that.
But we do seem to agree thatthere's more going on here than
meets the eye, that there issome kind of a higher power.
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So that's my story with regardto how it came to pass that I
wrote that book, God Talk.
SPEAKER_01 (12:04):
So you had a desire to...
to have a relationship with Godin some way.
Or at
SPEAKER_03 (12:13):
least have some kind of understanding, if not a
relationship with God.
I don't think I had a desire tohave a relationship with God,
but I did have a desire tounderstand more about this thing
that people call the higherpower.
Yeah, I wanted to know moreabout it.
SPEAKER_01 (12:26):
If I recall, were you faced with some troubling
situation when you first hadyour first conversation?
Were you...
kind of at a turning point inyour life, if I recall?
SPEAKER_03 (12:38):
That's what drove me to have my first experience of a
conversation with God, actually.
Yeah, I had what I laughinglyrefer to now in retrospect as
the triple whammy.
And for me, the triple whammywas there was a period of time
in my life, now it's about 30,35 years ago, but my
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relationship with my wife wasbreaking down It wasn't
acrimonious.
We weren't angry with eachother.
We just kind of agreed, youknow, agreeably that we weren't
doing as well together as wethought we might.
And so we decided to go ourseparate ways.
And I was very sad about that.
We had two children together,and I was not happy about this
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experience.
And I thought, well, okay, wecan make this work.
We can have shared custody andso forth.
But actually, five days later, Ilost my job.
The company that I was workingfor, the corporation, sent down
a memo from headquarters thatthey needed to lose some
overhead so they had todownsize.
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And I was the last person theyhired.
They said, you know, we reallylove your work.
We like exactly what you'redoing, and you're doing it well,
but sorry, seniority rules inthis day and age.
You're the last person we hired,first person out.
Last person in, first personout.
So I lost my job for no reasonother than that the company
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needed to downsize.
Now I've lost my relationshipwith my wife and lost my job in
the same five-day period.
But you know what?
I'm a bounce backer.
I thought, okay, I can handlethis.
I'm driving down the road,heading to an interview to get
another job.
And I knew I would get the jobbecause the guy that let me go
gave me a terrific letter ofrecommendation.
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He said, this is one of the guyswe really hated to lose, but
corporate headquarters insisted.
So we let him go, but he'sreally good at what he does.
And I know I'm going to get thisother job.
It just happened it was anopening somewhere else.
I never got to the appointment,actually.
A guy turns in front of me.
He makes a left turn and hemisjudged the distance between
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his car and mine.
He was an elderly gentleman,about 86 or 87.
And he wasn't quite payingattention that I guess.
Anyway, he smashed right intome.
And it wasn't what you'd call afender bender.
It was a total demolition of mycar.
My car was totaled.
And I was nearly totaled.
I wound up with a broken neck.
And I didn't have just ahairline fracture in my neck.
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I remember the wording of themedical report.
It said that I had severed athree-quarter inch of ulcer
fracture of the seventh cervicalvertebrae posteriorly.
Actually, that's a break in yourneck big enough to put a pencil
through.
SPEAKER_02 (15:24):
When
SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
I woke up, In the hospital, of course, they sent
me right away over there when Iwoke up.
They anesthetized the wound.
I woke up and the doctor looksat me and he says, you should be
dead.
He said, I got to tell yousomething.
Eight people out of 10 whosuffer that kind of a break in
your neck die instantly becauseof spinal cord complications.
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He said, and those who don'tdie, the 2% who may not die,
wind up paralyzed from the neckdown.
You suffered neitherconsequence.
He said, man, you're a miraclepatient.
And he looks over at me.
I'm lying on the table in frontof him.
He says, so what do you intendto do with the rest of your
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life?
Wow.
I thought he said, becauseyou're a miracle, you shouldn't
even be alive.
So I'm like, whoa.
Well, you know what?
Life got worse.
Because the little apartmentthat I was renting, I couldn't
get a job anywhere.
They fitted me with what theycall a Philadelphia collar.
It's a plastic device that youwear around your neck.
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And the doctor said to me, youare not to take this off for any
reason until I tell you again.
We're waiting for your neck tofuse back.
We can do an operation, but theyrarely succeed as well.
When the body will heal itself,it's going to take a few months.
So do not take this collar offfor any reason because it's the
only thing holding your head up.
I said, okay, fair enough.
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But guess what?
Nobody would hire me.
I'd go in for job interviewsright and left, and they would
turn me down or not sayanything.
I'd never hear again.
Finally, the seventh guy thatwas interviewing me said, Mr.
Walsh, I've got to be honestwith you.
We can't hire you when you'rewearing a therapeutic device
around your neck.
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One wrong move on the job, we'repaying your hospital bills for
the next 10 years.
SPEAKER_01 (17:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:17):
We can't afford to do it.
Come in here when you're totallyhealed.
We'd hire you in a minute.
You've got all the credentials,all the qualifications, and all
the experience that we need.
So I was out of work andcouldn't find another job.
After about three or fourmonths, the guy who had the
apartment that I was renting,had a little flat above
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somebody's garage, said, I can'tdo it anymore.
I couldn't pay the rent.
I ran out of my savings.
He said, I got to ask you toleave.
I was evicted.
So there you go.
I'm living where?
On the sidewalk.
Nobody to take me in.
I had too much pride to ask thefew people who might have given
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me a place.
Because I thought, I can do thisfor a couple of bad weeks or
maybe a month or so.
I can make this work.
I was out there actually for ayear.
Two weeks shy of one year to beexact.
A year on the sidewalk, sleepingon the ground, in the rain, in
the snow, in the cold, in theheat of the summer, without any
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income whatsoever, zero money inmy pocket, going from person to
person with my handout, askingif you could please give me
anything, even a few coins.
I could get through the day andI could maybe get a little bit
of a bite to eat before the dayends.
Please, just a quarter, a coupleof half dollars, whatever you
got.
And I lived that way for a yearof my life.
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So I discovered, oh, I see.
Very interesting.
This is how life works.
Then I did finally get apart-time job.
Some guy had pity on me.
He said, okay, we can use you asa weekend fill-in.
Because you've got a guy whodoesn't want to work seven days
a week.
He's going to work Mondaythrough Friday.
We'll put you on his shiftSaturday and Sunday.
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I said, fair enough.
I get this weekend job, two daysa week, earning just enough
money to afford a little flatand not much else.
That's it.
At least I was out of theweather and it had a bathroom.
I didn't have to leave myself inthe woods.
And so I was now, I know I'mliving in this place and I woke
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up one morning.
Sorry for the long story, butthis is what happened.
I woke up one morning at 4.23 inthe morning and I'm thinking to
myself, what the heck does lifewant from me?
What's going on?
And what have I done to deservea life of such continuing
struggle?
Is this never going to end?
And as it happened, a tablet onthe coffee table in front of me,
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I guess I was making grocerylists or whatever I was doing
with it.
And so I started writing for noapparent reason, just as a quasi
therapeutic device.
It's 4.30 in the morning.
So I'm writing an angry letterto God.
Dear God, what does it take tomake life work?
What have I done to deserve alife of such continuing
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struggle?
And I remember writing thewords, tell me the rules.
I'll play this silly game calledknife.
Just tell me the rules.
How does it go?
How does it work?
I don't understand the rules.
And then after you give me therule book, don't change them
every three weeks.
And then I heard a voice.
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Actually, I could have swornthere was somebody in the room
with me.
I turned around.
There's nobody there.
I thought, oh, man, great.
Now, not only am I out of a joband trying to find a way to get
through, I'm losing my mind.
I'm hearing voices.
But the voice said, Neil, do youreally want answers to one of
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these questions?
Or are you just venting?
And I recall thinking, youimagine, yeah, hello, yeah, I'm
venting a little bit.
But if you've got answers, I'dsure as hell like to know what
they are.
And the voice answered me.
I mean, my thoughts came to mymind, and the thoughts said,
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Neil, you are sure as hell abouta lot of things, but wouldn't
you rather be sure as heaven?
And I'm thinking, okay, what'sthat supposed to mean?
And then the voice said, okay,take this down.
I'm going to answer yourquestions.
And I received the answer to thequestions that I had asked,
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which brought up otherquestions.
which brought to me otheranswers, which brought up other
questions and other answers.
And before I knew it, I wasinvolved in an on-paper
dialogue, back and forth, backand forth, question, answer,
question, answer, question,answer.
And I thought, you know, well, Idon't know what I'm tapping into
here, but it certainly isinteresting.
And I might as well ask all thequestions I ever had about life.
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I'll start asking questionsabout sex.
about relationship, about rightlivelihood, about how to find a
good job, about economics, aboutmoney, about health, about diet,
about parenting.
I asked questions abouteverything I ever wanted to know
more about.
And by gosh and by golly, if Ididn't receive the most
astonishing answers.
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So I wrote them down because Ididn't want to lose track of
them.
And I wasn't trying to write abook.
It didn't even occur to me.
I was having a very private,personal, sacred experience, if
you please.
And it never occurred to me thatanyone else would ever read this
stuff.
But then I was told in thedialogue, as I mentioned a
minute ago, you're going to makea book out of this.
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And I thought, well, we'll seeabout that.
And that's what happened.
Wow.
Before I knew it, people werereading the book in 37 languages
in countries around the world.
And I was like, are you kiddingme?
SPEAKER_01 (23:09):
Yeah.
Well, you talk about in Godtalk, you talk about, uh, you
know, being God talking to youall the time and how you're
called to certain things.
Right.
Well, I think that's why I'mtalking to you here today.
Right.
Is, is the calling.
I mean, if I don't think I know,I know that's why we're having
this conversation as I felt thecalling to, to reach out to you.
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And thankfully you received thatcalling and here we are.
Right.
And, and God put us together inthat, in that fashion, I
believe.
UNKNOWN (23:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (23:38):
What you mentioned earlier, you know, eight out of
10 people in the world believein a higher power of some sorts.
What do you say to the two outof 10 who don't, given your
experiences and your life andyour search and exploration of
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other religions and all of thatthat you've learned?
What would you say to thoseother 20% of the folks who
don't?
for whatever reason, don't havea belief system like we do.
SPEAKER_03 (24:14):
I say to them, you know what?
Stay true to yourself.
Or as Shakespeare would have putit more eloquently, to thine own
self be true, and it follows asto night to day.
Thou then canst not be false toany man.
So be true to yourself.
I have no need of what I say tothose people.
And by the way, I do encounterthem.
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Sometimes they show up at mylectures and Just to see, you
know, just to see what thisguy's all about.
Or maybe their spouse, theirhusband or their wife drags them
over because one of them readthe book and, no, you got to
hear this guy.
You got to hear this guy.
So they show up in the back ofthe room at the lecture and they
stand up and they say, oh, comeon, Mr.
Walsh, really?
You want me to believe that youtalk to God?
Give me a break.
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And I say to them, you knowwhat?
I don't need you to believethat.
I don't need you to believeanything.
I don't even need you to believethere is a thing called God.
Oh, and by the way, here's thegood news.
God doesn't need you to believein God at all as well.
God does not need you to believein God.
You're not going to getpunished.
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You're not going to get sent tohell.
You're not going to be condemnedbecause you say you don't
believe in God.
So if you don't believe in God,then don't believe in God.
You know what?
Do what works for you.
But what has worked for me is mybelief in God and in the gift
that God has given me, the giftof metaphysics.
the gift of free will and thegift of the ability to use my
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mind as a tool with which tocreate my ongoing daily reality.
And if you want to know moreabout that, then I say to the
person, and if you want to knowmore about that, you're welcome
to read my books.
And if you think it's a bunch ofhogwash, then toss it away.
I mean, literally throw the bookout.
I invite you to throw the bookaway.
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But a lot of those people, the20%, and show up in my lectures
and my workshops, they actuallydo read the book.
And you know what?
A few of them write me lettersor emails saying, I find this
fascinating.
Maybe I'm going to change mymind.
SPEAKER_01 (26:22):
Wow.
What an impact.
What an impact.
SPEAKER_03 (26:26):
It's been interesting.
SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
Do these...
conversations or sessions withGod continue to this day?
Oh,
SPEAKER_03 (26:36):
sure.
We're all having them all thetime,
SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
as I mentioned.
SPEAKER_03 (26:39):
And the answer is yes, in the way that I've been
having them, because I refuse tonot use this connection in the
way that I've used it.
So I've continued to writebooks.
I've written 41 books.
And right now, I'm writing abook even as we're speaking.
I'm writing another book,because I just can't shut up.
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And I want to make sure thatwhat I'm experiencing and what
I'm receiving, if you will, isshared with as many people as
possible.
SPEAKER_01 (27:09):
Now, you mentioned something in God Talk about God
being pure love.
Can you maybe expand for ouraudience a little bit?
What do you mean by pure love?
SPEAKER_03 (27:19):
Yeah, I'd be happy to.
I wrote a book on thatparticular subject specifically.
The book is called The GodSolution.
And in The God Solution...
I offer this idea.
The way to solve humanity'sproblems, since 8 out of 10
people believe in a higher powerof some kind, is to redefine
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what that higher power is.
Because here's the challenge.
The challenge is that mostpeople who believe in God
believe in a God of judgment,condemnation, and punishment.
Either you do things God's way,or you're in big trouble.
So, and, you know, The rules aredifferent for every religion or
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from religion to religion, butthey all have their own rules.
So what I was told is to invitethe world to redefine God as
pure love.
And when I said to God, okay,what's pure love?
God said, pure love is a lovethat needs, expects, requires,
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and demands nothing in return.
We can't even love the person onthe pillow next to us with that
kind of purity.
Much less can we imagine a Godwho loves us that way.
Because we've been taught abouta God who's just the opposite.
(28:42):
No, no, no, no, no.
You don't understand.
God needs certain things.
He needs you to obey the TenCommandments.
He needs you to go to Mass everySunday.
He needs you to go toconfession.
He needs you to do this.
He needs you to do that.
He needs you not to do this, notto do that, not to do this, not
to do that.
He's got lots of rules, and boy,you better obey those rules or
you're going to be in bigtrouble.
(29:02):
So we've been taught about adifferent kind of God.
Not a God of pure love, but aGod of Conditional love.
I love you if.
And what God said to me in thebook, God's Solution, is I don't
love you if.
I love you because.
I love you because you are mychild, my creation, a part of
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me.
There's no separation betweenus.
And so I love you completely,even as you would love a child
of your own.
And so, pure love is youropportunity to experience me and
yourself in a way that you'venever experienced either one of
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us before.
And so, by the way,incidentally, the book, The God
Solution, is available toanybody who wants it.
If somebody sends me an emailsaying, could I have a copy of
that.
I can't send a hard copy.
Obviously, I don't havethousands of them in my garage,
but I do have it on my computer,and I can send people the
(30:11):
author's manuscript in a digitalfile, and I'll send it to
anybody who writes me and asksfor it, no charge, totally free.
You want the author'smanuscript?
I'll send it back to you byreturn email.
The book is called The GodSolution.
SPEAKER_01 (30:28):
Awesome.
In my email, if you want toemail me, for listeners who are
interested in that, I'll getthat to Neil, is dash.grace at
gmail, D-A-S-H dot G-R-A-C-E atgmail.
Thank you, Neil.
That would be fantastic to sharewith our listeners.
What you were talking aboutthere really resonates with me
in terms of the vengeful, angryGod that we were taught about.
(30:54):
that the you know still peopleare talking and being taught
about um you know as a youngchild i would never forget i
mean it just one of my earliestmemories is just not not
understanding why are we here atthis church every sunday and we
have to have a fear of god andthe whole thing just never made
(31:16):
sense to me because it's likewhat what kind of god would you
have to fear And I really thinkthat that's such a disservice to
humanity because it just nevermade any sense.
I don't know.
I don't want to get into thehypotheses as to why that's in
the Bible.
The Bible is full of all kindsof stuff like that that really
(31:39):
turns off and is a disservice tohumanity, as I said.
But a lot of people believeevery single thing in the Bible
SPEAKER_03 (31:45):
is...
Not just the Bible.
The Quran, the Bible, the Gita.
Yeah.
the Upanishads, the Hebrewsection of the Old Testament.
You know, guys, the doctrines ofevery religion on the earth, not
just the Bible, teach the samething.
Either obey God's commands oryou're in big trouble.
(32:08):
Some religions even tell youwhat you can wear and what you
cannot wear and what you betternot wear and what you should
wear.
And if you're a female, you musthave your entire face covered at
all times when you're in public.
And by the way, speaking ofbeing in public, you may not
leave your house alone unlessyou're in the company of an
adult male relative.
(32:30):
Otherwise, you cannot leave thehouse.
And this is the rule.
This is not simply a culturalidea.
This is the spiritual
SPEAKER_01 (32:38):
idea.
Yeah.
So pure love really changesthings drastically.
To put it
SPEAKER_03 (32:50):
mildly.
SPEAKER_01 (32:51):
One of the other things that I wanted to mention
to you is just something thatI've also found the more that
I've explored and learned aboutthe reality that we are all one
with God.
I found that in conversationswith some folks, even with close
friends who I've known for along time, that can be a very...
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controversial concept.
And I believe that it's, youknow, in my experience, it
brings up a level ofaccountability within, you know,
in the conversation.
If we are truly God and we areall have God within us, then we
all should be a lot moreaccountable to what we do and to
(33:38):
each other, right?
And that turns off a lot ofpeople I've seen.
Have you seen that in yourexperiences or can you expand on
that?
on my experience there a littlebit for our audience?
SPEAKER_03 (33:48):
Well, of course.
And when I brought up these verysame thoughts in my interaction
with the divine, when I said inmy conversations, God, much of
what you just said here, Godsaid to me, Neil, I'm not saying
that you are God in the sense ofbeing the totality of God.
I'm simply saying that you are apart of God.
(34:11):
I said, you know, help meunderstand more clearly.
God said, okay, look, Have youever been on an ocean liner?
I said, sure, I have.
And God said, okay, have youever seen a wave on the ocean?
I said, sure, I've seen a wave.
God said, is the wave somethingother than the ocean?
Or is it merely an arising inindividual form of the ocean?
(34:34):
In powerful expression,beautiful in its expression, but
never disconnected from theocean.
It's simply an individualexpression of the ocean.
And When that individualexpression is complete, the wave
simply recedes back into theocean whence it came.
Can you visualize that?
And I said, wow, nobody ever putit to me quite like that.
(34:58):
And I said, well, you are a waveon the ocean of God, so Neil, go
out there and make waves.
And so that's the analogy thatI've been given, and that's what
I understand is meant by thestatement that we are all one,
that we are all a part of thatwhich we call God, and we are
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individual expressions of thedivine, and that we are not only
one with God, but one with eachother.
And once we embrace, if we everdo embrace, the notion that we
are one with each other, thatwe're not separate from each
other, we're all part of thesame essential essence.
If humanity could ever embracesuch a notion that we are all
(35:45):
one, the world would changevirtually overnight.
We couldn't do in Ukraine whatwe're doing, having an argument
over a borderline and killingthousands of people because we
can't agree on what the borderbetween two countries should be.
What's going on in the GazaStrip would not be happening.
We've had armed conflict on thisplanet for all but 5% of
(36:10):
recorded history.
Because we can't find a way tostop killing each other when we
disagree with each other.
I mean, come on, folks.
SPEAKER_01 (36:20):
Did you have a conversation with God about
that?
Of course.
Why do we continue to do that?
SPEAKER_03 (36:26):
Because of fear.
We think that the only way toget our way, or to solve our
differences, if you please, isto use force.
So we've been using force, allkinds of forms of force, not
just military force, economicforce, social force, spiritual
(36:48):
force.
We've been trying to forcepeople one way or another to do
what we think they should bedoing.
And we do it because we areafraid of what will happen if we
don't get our way.
So fear is the motivatingfactor.
I can't get my way unless youcome my way and do things my
way.
(37:08):
If you choose my way, noproblem.
SPEAKER_01 (37:10):
Why does God allow us to be, allow some of us to
rule over others with fear?
Why is that part of theexperience that we need to
SPEAKER_03 (37:20):
have?
Because God has given us thegreatest gift of all, the same
gift he would give our ownchildren, free will.
If God wanted us to be nothingmore than minions in a
kingdom...
where you bow down and dowhatever God says and
everything's fine, and if youdon't, then you're in trouble.
If God wanted us to be minionsin the kingdom, he would never
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have given us free will.
But what God wanted us all toexperience was the ability to
create our own reality so thatwe could also experience what
it's like to be the creator,because God wanted us, every
part of God's self, God wantedall parts of itself to
experience the totality ofitself in terms of its
(38:06):
definition as the creator of itsreality.
So in order for us as God'schildren, if you please, to use
a metaphor, in order for us asGod's creations to experience
ourselves as divine, we wouldhave to have be given free will
to create individually andcollectively our own reality.
And that's precisely what we'vebeen doing on this planet.
(38:29):
hopefully we will continue toevolve sufficiently if we don't
self-annihilate before it's toolate hopefully we can evolve
sufficiently to agree that we'reacting insanely and we can
create a different reality onthis planet
SPEAKER_01 (38:47):
isn't that what ascension is all about right
those who say we're thevibration of the earth is
changing and collectively we areascending to higher levels is
that Is that what you're talkingabout as well?
SPEAKER_03 (39:00):
Well, yes.
Sometimes people think ofascension in a different way.
They think of leaving the body,you know, as Christ ascended
into heaven.
But if we're using ascension asto mean the same thing as
elevation, the elevation and theexpansion and the growth of our
consciousness, consciousexpansion, yes, then I would
(39:23):
say, yes, that's myunderstanding.
SPEAKER_01 (39:27):
One of the things that, you know, you talk about
free will, right?
And in the book, I believe youtalk about one of the steps is
people being willing, right?
What do you mean by that interms of what can people do to
be willing?
Like what can people do to helpothers be willing?
SPEAKER_03 (39:46):
Well, willingness is one of the six steps that I
placed in the book about havingyour own conversation with God
to put it into context.
That's what willingness isabout.
And when I discuss what do Imean by willingness to have our
own conversation with God, wehave to be willing to buck the
(40:06):
system.
We have to be willing to say, Iknow that the cultural story out
there of humanity and thereligious story and the social
story and the economic story andthe philosophical story, I
understand that the entire storytells us, guys, you can't have
your own conversation with God.
Come on.
(40:26):
I mean...
You're not the Pope.
Maybe God talks to the Pope,fair enough, or the Archbishop
of Canterbury, or the ChiefUlama, or the head rabbi, or
somebody with some kind ofcredentials.
But God isn't going to talk tothe first baseman for the New
York Yankees.
I mean, give me a break, muchless you, Neil.
(40:46):
Who do you think you are anyway?
So in order for us to accept thefact that God would talk to all
of us, we have to be willing tobuck the system and to stand up
in the face of, you know whatreligions tell us?
Many religions tell us if weclaim that we are hearing
directly from the divine, thatGod is speaking to us and
(41:09):
through us, we're committingblasphemy.
We're committing heresy.
Some religions can put you todeath for simply making such a
claim.
So what I mean by willingness iswe have to have the courage and
the bravery to stand up againstthat whole cultural story and to
(41:30):
say, I'm sorry, guys.
I understand that in your idea,even those of you who do believe
in God, do not accept the factthat God talks to human beings.
Well, maybe he talked to Moses.
Okay, fair enough.
And gave Moses the TenCommandments.
But he doesn't talk...
Well, maybe he talked to Jesusfor a couple of hours and maybe
made Jesus the son of God, buthe doesn't talk to...
(41:53):
Well, maybe he talked to Muslim,Muslim leader Muhammad, bless
his holy name.
So he probably talked toMuhammad, but he doesn't talk...
Well, maybe he talked to Buddhafor a minute, but he didn't...
Well, maybe he talked to MotherMary and to Catherine of Genoa
and to Joan of Arc and to Julianof Norwich and to Mother Teresa
(42:13):
and maybe...
maybe he even talks to hosts ofradio and television podcasts
like Ashley.
Now, no way in the world wouldGod talk directly to Ashley.
Come on.
Would God stoop that low?
Which is one of the six steps inhaving our own conversation with
(42:38):
God.
Step number two, worthiness.
To accept the fact that all ofus are worthy, not just Moses,
not just Buddha, not just MotherMary or Joan of Arc, but that
all of us are worthy to receiveand are receiving communications
(43:01):
from the divine.
As I said a moment ago, we'resimply calling it something else
because we don't want to getinto trouble with God.
So we call it an epiphany, asudden insight.
But you know, God speaks to usin a thousand different ways
across a million moments in alifetime.
(43:22):
The chance utterance of a friendwe just happen to meet on the
street by coincidence.
The words on the billboard as weturn the corner around and we
see 12 words, giant words on thebillboard that just happen to
direct our attention toprecisely the question we've
been looking at in our mind forthe past three weeks.
(43:42):
The overheard conversation in acoffee shop.
As we listen to two other peopleat the next table arguing about
some philosophical point thatwe've been exploring and looking
deeply at for the past fiveyears.
And here they are talking aboutit.
So God talks to us in a milliondifferent ways.
The lyrics of the next song youhear on the radio.
(44:05):
How many times have you beendriving down the road to have
the radio on and suddenlyrealize, wait a minute, the
lyrics of that song are talkingright to me.
Right now.
It's what I'm going throughright now.
So God is talking to us in athousand different ways across a
million moments.
(44:25):
And it's as simple as that.
None of us are more special thanthe other one.
So we now get to pay attention.
Pay attention to what you'rehearing.
Don't deny it.
Don't claim it's not happening.
Just listen.
Be awake.
Stay awake.
(44:45):
Wakefulness is the fourth step.
And I talk about it in the book.
Stay awake and watch thesemessages come to you.
Many, many ideas that will hityou.
In the middle of the night, youwake up and go, of course, of
(45:07):
course I've got to do that.
Or of course I've got to avoiddoing this.
A feeling you get about certaindecisions you have to make.
Where does that feeling comefrom?
So, we're all havingconversations with God all the
time, not just the Pope.
SPEAKER_01 (45:31):
It's wonderful.
I think it's important for usall to, like you said, to be
awake, to think about it likethat.
You have to be able to bepresent and aware and pause
before reacting in any situationin order to see God in a lot of
ways in those situations.
If we don't slow down, we mightmiss it.
SPEAKER_03 (45:53):
And how can I express, pause to ask myself,
how can I express pure love inthis moment right now?
Especially when I'm confrontedby a person with whom I
dramatically disagree.
How can I disagree agreeably Isthere any way, I mean, do
(46:13):
differences have to createdivisions?
Do contrasts have to createconflicts?
Does opposing points of viewhave to create oppositions?
You know, what is it here thatwe don't understand?
Surely there ought to be a wayfor us to have a different idea
(46:34):
about things without hurtingeach other verbally or worse
yet, physically.
in response to the differencesthat exist between us wow
whatever happened to the frenchstatement which was a statement
of great wisdom indeed
SPEAKER_01 (46:57):
might be a great place for us to stop um neil
thank you so much for your timei um i wonder if you have any
final words from you or from godthat you'd like to share
SPEAKER_03 (47:08):
God gave me a five-word message to share with
the world whenever I had achance to, and I promised that I
would.
Here's God's five-word messageto the world.
You've got me all wrong.
SPEAKER_01 (47:23):
That's great.
Thank you, Neil.
I would love for you to hang onfor a second.
I'll stop the recording.
It's been great talking to you.
Thank you so much for taking thetime to be with us.
I look forward to reading evenmore of your past works and your
future works.
SPEAKER_03 (47:42):
Thank you, my friend.
It was lovely to be with you andI appreciate the opportunity.
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Today's show is with Neil DonaldWalsh, who's the author of God
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It's a great program.
You're going to find it veryinteresting.
Neil was in a bad place in hislife several years ago and found
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And he goes on to change hislife to follow that direction.
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What can we do about that?
And where do we go from there?
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What does that mean?
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Hello, Neil Donald Walsh.
Thank you, and welcome to theshow.
Nice to meet you today.
SPEAKER_03 (02:01):
Thank you.
It's good to be here.
I appreciate the invitation andthe opportunity.
How can
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
I serve you?
Well, Neil, I just am fascinatedwith your book, God Talk, as
well as Conversations with God,your prior works.
We explore all kinds ofdifferent things here on the
show, ways of new thinking,innovations, spirituality,
(02:29):
health and wellness across theboard, in the spirit of trying
to help spread the word andbuild a better world.
I just was glad that youaccepted to be on the show today
and wanted to talk to you aboutyour book, God Talk, and other
things as we go along.
(02:49):
So why don't you introduceyourself first, and then we can
just take it from there.
SPEAKER_03 (02:54):
Okay.
Hi, I'm Neil.
SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (03:01):
Okay, I can give you a longer introduction.
I've written a few books hereand there, and I had an
experience 30 years ago readingnow.
It's funny how time flies,but...
I did have an experience 30years ago in which I felt that I
was actually communicating withthe divine, having a
(03:22):
conversation with God.
And I was told in thatconversation that we're all
having conversations with Godall the time.
We're just calling it somethingelse, an epiphany or a brilliant
idea or a sudden insight orwomen's intuition, whatever
words we want to use, but thatwe're all having the same
experience where somehow out ofthe blue, something occurs to us
(03:45):
But what I did that wasdifferent was I wrote it down.
I wrote down what I was hearing,what I was receiving, if you
please.
And then I found myself in mymind asking other questions, and
I would get other answers.
And before I knew it, actually,by golly, I was involved in an
on-paper dialogue,question-answer,
(04:06):
question-answer,question-answer.
So, you know, I never imaginedthat anyone else would ever see
this, that anyone else wouldever be privy to it.
But then I was told, if youplease, in the conversation,
Neil, you will make of this oneday a book, and it will be
accessed by many people.
And you know what I thought?
(04:26):
No way in the world.
There's no publishing company.
I mean, I could self-publish it,but no publishing company of
repute is going to publish abook because a guy claims that
he's talking directly to Gus.
It's not going to happen.
Well, in fact, I sent it on adare request.
to a couple of publishers.
I sent my handwritten notes, 0.5copies of my handwritten notes
(04:49):
and said, would you beinterested in publishing this
material?
And by golly, if one of thosepeople didn't call me back and
say, we love it, we're going toput it out.
And they said, it's a great workof fiction about a guy who
imagines that he's having aconversation with God.
I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,wait a minute.
This is not a work of fiction.
(05:12):
And the publisher says to me,Mr.
Walsh, are you telling me youthink this actually happened?
I said, I know it did.
That's why I sent it to you.
But I totally get that you don'twant to publish it because it
seems strange and pretty weird.
He said, no, we can put it outas a nonfiction book, but it's
(05:33):
not going to find 500 readersbecause the average, as a work
of fiction, you could find a lotof people thinking what an
interesting story, but If youwant people to really believe
this happened to you, you're notgoing to find 500 readers.
But we'll put it out, you know,just because we like the
material.
And you know what?
He was right.
The book they published did notfind 500 readers.
(05:56):
It found 5 million.
Wow.
In 37 languages.
I'm not bragging.
I'm just saying.
So...
When that happened, I realized,oh, maybe I should listen
carefully to what I'm being toldhere.
And maybe we all should.
Maybe all of us should pay moreattention to this whole process
(06:19):
by which life communicates tolife about life through the
process of life itself.
And then one day, I know youasked for an introduction.
You didn't
SPEAKER_01 (06:29):
expect me to talk for a half hour.
This is great.
Just keep going.
This is wonderful.
SPEAKER_03 (06:33):
Well, then one day I got a call.
which rarely happens to apublished author.
Most authors, they write a book,they have an idea, they put it
into a book form, and they tryto find a publisher who wants to
put it out.
But in this case, my phone rang,and it was a publisher calling
me, a lady who owns a publishingcompany, and she said, would you
(06:58):
be willing to write a book forus?
I said, well, what do you havein mind?
She said, we'd like to have youwrite a book that explains to
people how they can have theirown experience like the one you
claim to have had.
Is it possible for the averageperson to have conversations
with God?
I said, well, of course it is.
We're doing it all the time.
(07:18):
We're just calling it somethingelse, a point I just made.
She said, well, could you writea book about that?
I said, sure, sure, I'd be happyto.
So I did, and she titled thebook God Talk.
And you know what she wanted todo?
This publisher, she said, wewant to make a point here with
the book that it's not just oneguy, one person out there in
Oregon who's had thisexperience.
(07:39):
We want to make it clear thatit's common that people all
throughout the world haveclaimed experiences of divine
intervention, where Godintervenes in their life in a
very personal and direct way.
So she put in an announcement.
She put an invitation up on theinternet inviting people who
(08:00):
feel they've had a directconversation with God or an
intervention from the divine totell her about it, to send her
an email back.
She said she got hundreds ofemails from around the world,
and she took 10 or 15 of thebest ones, which she thought
were the most interestingstories, and put them in the
book, in the book that we werewriting, that I was writing
(08:21):
called God Talk, to prove topeople that it isn't just this
guy in Oregon, but it's peopleall over the world So the book
contains a story of a motherwhose ashes came through a
vision of her child, a woman whowas reassured of her health
condition that would be healed,a scientist whose conversations
with the presence of Goddramatically changed his life.
(08:43):
Lots of stories in that bookfrom people around the world who
are claiming, hey, Walsh isn'tthe only guy who's had this kind
of intervention.
So that's, you know, the briefintroduction.
of who I am and why I'm here,and I appreciate the opportunity
to share that with you.
SPEAKER_01 (09:01):
Thank you, Neil.
That's great.
Can you share with us, you know,obviously your point is that we
can all talk to God and we'reall doing that in our own ways.
However, you know, not all of ushave maybe are as aware of that,
have it be so clear, and havethe experiences such that you
(09:23):
had.
What about your background?
Can you tell us, I mean, howwere you raised in terms of your
belief system and your faith andwhat got you to that point when
you started having theconversation the first time that
you did that?
SPEAKER_03 (09:37):
Well, good question.
I've always believed in thething called God.
I was raised by my family as aRoman Catholic.
My family were staunchCatholics.
So they put me into a Catholicelementary school and And so I
had received all of the Catholicdoctrine all through my grade
school years.
But I got to tell you, actually,that when I was around 16 or 17,
(10:01):
I really stepped away from allof that because I found it
difficult to embrace, tocontinue to hold as my own
truth, some of the things thatthe Catholic Church was teaching
me.
And so I started looking atother faiths because I didn't
want to give up my entire beliefin God.
(10:21):
But I thought maybe it's justthe doctrine of the Catholic
Church that bothers me.
And I checked into the BaptistChurch, the Methodist Church,
the Lutheran Church.
I looked at the Jewish religionseriously.
I took a look at the Muslimfaith tradition.
I found myself fascinated byBuddhism.
I just really, you know, inmy...
late teens and early 20s, I waslooking at all the belief
(10:44):
systems I could get my hands onbook-wise and reading stuff just
to try to figure out what'sgoing on with this thing about
God.
But you know what?
There were so many divergentpoints of view.
I don't know whether you'reaware of it right now, but you
can Google this.
I'm not making this story up.
There are 4,223 religions nowbeing practiced on the earth.
(11:07):
Not from the beginning of time,being practiced today.
on the planet.
So, you know, I finally decided,okay, obviously we can't agree
on who and what this thing isthat we call a higher power, but
whether we can agree on itdoctrinally or not, one thing is
interesting.
Surveys have shown, sociologistshave taken surveys in country
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after country that indicate thateight out of 10 people would say
yes when they're asked a simplequestion.
Do you believe in some kind ofhigher power?
So we can't agree on what thehigher power is and what it
wants and what it does if itdoesn't get what it wants and
all of that.
But we do seem to agree thatthere's more going on here than
meets the eye, that there issome kind of a higher power.
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So that's my story with regardto how it came to pass that I
wrote that book, God Talk.
SPEAKER_01 (12:04):
So you had a desire to...
to have a relationship with Godin some way.
Or at
SPEAKER_03 (12:13):
least have some kind of understanding, if not a
relationship with God.
I don't think I had a desire tohave a relationship with God,
but I did have a desire tounderstand more about this thing
that people call the higherpower.
Yeah, I wanted to know moreabout it.
SPEAKER_01 (12:26):
If I recall, were you faced with some troubling
situation when you first hadyour first conversation?
Were you...
kind of at a turning point inyour life, if I recall?
SPEAKER_03 (12:38):
That's what drove me to have my first experience of a
conversation with God, actually.
Yeah, I had what I laughinglyrefer to now in retrospect as
the triple whammy.
And for me, the triple whammywas there was a period of time
in my life, now it's about 30,35 years ago, but my
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relationship with my wife wasbreaking down It wasn't
acrimonious.
We weren't angry with eachother.
We just kind of agreed, youknow, agreeably that we weren't
doing as well together as wethought we might.
And so we decided to go ourseparate ways.
And I was very sad about that.
We had two children together,and I was not happy about this
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experience.
And I thought, well, okay, wecan make this work.
We can have shared custody andso forth.
But actually, five days later, Ilost my job.
The company that I was workingfor, the corporation, sent down
a memo from headquarters thatthey needed to lose some
overhead so they had todownsize.
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And I was the last person theyhired.
They said, you know, we reallylove your work.
We like exactly what you'redoing, and you're doing it well,
but sorry, seniority rules inthis day and age.
You're the last person we hired,first person out.
Last person in, first personout.
So I lost my job for no reasonother than that the company
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needed to downsize.
Now I've lost my relationshipwith my wife and lost my job in
the same five-day period.
But you know what?
I'm a bounce backer.
I thought, okay, I can handlethis.
I'm driving down the road,heading to an interview to get
another job.
And I knew I would get the jobbecause the guy that let me go
gave me a terrific letter ofrecommendation.
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He said, this is one of the guyswe really hated to lose, but
corporate headquarters insisted.
So we let him go, but he'sreally good at what he does.
And I know I'm going to get thisother job.
It just happened it was anopening somewhere else.
I never got to the appointment,actually.
A guy turns in front of me.
He makes a left turn and hemisjudged the distance between
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his car and mine.
He was an elderly gentleman,about 86 or 87.
And he wasn't quite payingattention that I guess.
Anyway, he smashed right intome.
And it wasn't what you'd call afender bender.
It was a total demolition of mycar.
My car was totaled.
And I was nearly totaled.
I wound up with a broken neck.
And I didn't have just ahairline fracture in my neck.
(15:10):
I remember the wording of themedical report.
It said that I had severed athree-quarter inch of ulcer
fracture of the seventh cervicalvertebrae posteriorly.
Actually, that's a break in yourneck big enough to put a pencil
through.
SPEAKER_02 (15:24):
When
SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
I woke up, In the hospital, of course, they sent
me right away over there when Iwoke up.
They anesthetized the wound.
I woke up and the doctor looksat me and he says, you should be
dead.
He said, I got to tell yousomething.
Eight people out of 10 whosuffer that kind of a break in
your neck die instantly becauseof spinal cord complications.
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He said, and those who don'tdie, the 2% who may not die,
wind up paralyzed from the neckdown.
You suffered neitherconsequence.
He said, man, you're a miraclepatient.
And he looks over at me.
I'm lying on the table in frontof him.
He says, so what do you intendto do with the rest of your
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life?
Wow.
I thought he said, becauseyou're a miracle, you shouldn't
even be alive.
So I'm like, whoa.
Well, you know what?
Life got worse.
Because the little apartmentthat I was renting, I couldn't
get a job anywhere.
They fitted me with what theycall a Philadelphia collar.
It's a plastic device that youwear around your neck.
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And the doctor said to me, youare not to take this off for any
reason until I tell you again.
We're waiting for your neck tofuse back.
We can do an operation, but theyrarely succeed as well.
When the body will heal itself,it's going to take a few months.
So do not take this collar offfor any reason because it's the
only thing holding your head up.
I said, okay, fair enough.
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But guess what?
Nobody would hire me.
I'd go in for job interviewsright and left, and they would
turn me down or not sayanything.
I'd never hear again.
Finally, the seventh guy thatwas interviewing me said, Mr.
Walsh, I've got to be honestwith you.
We can't hire you when you'rewearing a therapeutic device
around your neck.
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One wrong move on the job, we'repaying your hospital bills for
the next 10 years.
SPEAKER_01 (17:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:17):
We can't afford to do it.
Come in here when you're totallyhealed.
We'd hire you in a minute.
You've got all the credentials,all the qualifications, and all
the experience that we need.
So I was out of work andcouldn't find another job.
After about three or fourmonths, the guy who had the
apartment that I was renting,had a little flat above
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somebody's garage, said, I can'tdo it anymore.
I couldn't pay the rent.
I ran out of my savings.
He said, I got to ask you toleave.
I was evicted.
So there you go.
I'm living where?
On the sidewalk.
Nobody to take me in.
I had too much pride to ask thefew people who might have given
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me a place.
Because I thought, I can do thisfor a couple of bad weeks or
maybe a month or so.
I can make this work.
I was out there actually for ayear.
Two weeks shy of one year to beexact.
A year on the sidewalk, sleepingon the ground, in the rain, in
the snow, in the cold, in theheat of the summer, without any
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income whatsoever, zero money inmy pocket, going from person to
person with my handout, askingif you could please give me
anything, even a few coins.
I could get through the day andI could maybe get a little bit
of a bite to eat before the dayends.
Please, just a quarter, a coupleof half dollars, whatever you
got.
And I lived that way for a yearof my life.
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So I discovered, oh, I see.
Very interesting.
This is how life works.
Then I did finally get apart-time job.
Some guy had pity on me.
He said, okay, we can use you asa weekend fill-in.
Because you've got a guy whodoesn't want to work seven days
a week.
He's going to work Mondaythrough Friday.
We'll put you on his shiftSaturday and Sunday.
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I said, fair enough.
I get this weekend job, two daysa week, earning just enough
money to afford a little flatand not much else.
That's it.
At least I was out of theweather and it had a bathroom.
I didn't have to leave myself inthe woods.
And so I was now, I know I'mliving in this place and I woke
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up one morning.
Sorry for the long story, butthis is what happened.
I woke up one morning at 4.23 inthe morning and I'm thinking to
myself, what the heck does lifewant from me?
What's going on?
And what have I done to deservea life of such continuing
struggle?
Is this never going to end?
And as it happened, a tablet onthe coffee table in front of me,
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I guess I was making grocerylists or whatever I was doing
with it.
And so I started writing for noapparent reason, just as a quasi
therapeutic device.
It's 4.30 in the morning.
So I'm writing an angry letterto God.
Dear God, what does it take tomake life work?
What have I done to deserve alife of such continuing
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struggle?
And I remember writing thewords, tell me the rules.
I'll play this silly game calledknife.
Just tell me the rules.
How does it go?
How does it work?
I don't understand the rules.
And then after you give me therule book, don't change them
every three weeks.
And then I heard a voice.
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Actually, I could have swornthere was somebody in the room
with me.
I turned around.
There's nobody there.
I thought, oh, man, great.
Now, not only am I out of a joband trying to find a way to get
through, I'm losing my mind.
I'm hearing voices.
But the voice said, Neil, do youreally want answers to one of
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these questions?
Or are you just venting?
And I recall thinking, youimagine, yeah, hello, yeah, I'm
venting a little bit.
But if you've got answers, I'dsure as hell like to know what
they are.
And the voice answered me.
I mean, my thoughts came to mymind, and the thoughts said,
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Neil, you are sure as hell abouta lot of things, but wouldn't
you rather be sure as heaven?
And I'm thinking, okay, what'sthat supposed to mean?
And then the voice said, okay,take this down.
I'm going to answer yourquestions.
And I received the answer to thequestions that I had asked,
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which brought up otherquestions.
which brought to me otheranswers, which brought up other
questions and other answers.
And before I knew it, I wasinvolved in an on-paper
dialogue, back and forth, backand forth, question, answer,
question, answer, question,answer.
And I thought, you know, well, Idon't know what I'm tapping into
here, but it certainly isinteresting.
And I might as well ask all thequestions I ever had about life.
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I'll start asking questionsabout sex.
about relationship, about rightlivelihood, about how to find a
good job, about economics, aboutmoney, about health, about diet,
about parenting.
I asked questions abouteverything I ever wanted to know
more about.
And by gosh and by golly, if Ididn't receive the most
astonishing answers.
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So I wrote them down because Ididn't want to lose track of
them.
And I wasn't trying to write abook.
It didn't even occur to me.
I was having a very private,personal, sacred experience, if
you please.
And it never occurred to me thatanyone else would ever read this
stuff.
But then I was told in thedialogue, as I mentioned a
minute ago, you're going to makea book out of this.
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And I thought, well, we'll seeabout that.
And that's what happened.
Wow.
Before I knew it, people werereading the book in 37 languages
in countries around the world.
And I was like, are you kiddingme?
SPEAKER_01 (23:09):
Yeah.
Well, you talk about in Godtalk, you talk about, uh, you
know, being God talking to youall the time and how you're
called to certain things.
Right.
Well, I think that's why I'mtalking to you here today.
Right.
Is, is the calling.
I mean, if I don't think I know,I know that's why we're having
this conversation as I felt thecalling to, to reach out to you.
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And thankfully you received thatcalling and here we are.
Right.
And, and God put us together inthat, in that fashion, I
believe.
UNKNOWN (23:38):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (23:38):
What you mentioned earlier, you know, eight out of
10 people in the world believein a higher power of some sorts.
What do you say to the two outof 10 who don't, given your
experiences and your life andyour search and exploration of
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other religions and all of thatthat you've learned?
What would you say to thoseother 20% of the folks who
don't?
for whatever reason, don't havea belief system like we do.
SPEAKER_03 (24:14):
I say to them, you know what?
Stay true to yourself.
Or as Shakespeare would have putit more eloquently, to thine own
self be true, and it follows asto night to day.
Thou then canst not be false toany man.
So be true to yourself.
I have no need of what I say tothose people.
And by the way, I do encounterthem.
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Sometimes they show up at mylectures and Just to see, you
know, just to see what thisguy's all about.
Or maybe their spouse, theirhusband or their wife drags them
over because one of them readthe book and, no, you got to
hear this guy.
You got to hear this guy.
So they show up in the back ofthe room at the lecture and they
stand up and they say, oh, comeon, Mr.
Walsh, really?
You want me to believe that youtalk to God?
Give me a break.
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And I say to them, you knowwhat?
I don't need you to believethat.
I don't need you to believeanything.
I don't even need you to believethere is a thing called God.
Oh, and by the way, here's thegood news.
God doesn't need you to believein God at all as well.
God does not need you to believein God.
You're not going to getpunished.
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You're not going to get sent tohell.
You're not going to be condemnedbecause you say you don't
believe in God.
So if you don't believe in God,then don't believe in God.
You know what?
Do what works for you.
But what has worked for me is mybelief in God and in the gift
that God has given me, the giftof metaphysics.
the gift of free will and thegift of the ability to use my
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mind as a tool with which tocreate my ongoing daily reality.
And if you want to know moreabout that, then I say to the
person, and if you want to knowmore about that, you're welcome
to read my books.
And if you think it's a bunch ofhogwash, then toss it away.
I mean, literally throw the bookout.
I invite you to throw the bookaway.
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But a lot of those people, the20%, and show up in my lectures
and my workshops, they actuallydo read the book.
And you know what?
A few of them write me lettersor emails saying, I find this
fascinating.
Maybe I'm going to change mymind.
SPEAKER_01 (26:22):
Wow.
What an impact.
What an impact.
SPEAKER_03 (26:26):
It's been interesting.
SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
Do these...
conversations or sessions withGod continue to this day?
Oh,
SPEAKER_03 (26:36):
sure.
We're all having them all thetime,
SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
as I mentioned.
SPEAKER_03 (26:39):
And the answer is yes, in the way that I've been
having them, because I refuse tonot use this connection in the
way that I've used it.
So I've continued to writebooks.
I've written 41 books.
And right now, I'm writing abook even as we're speaking.
I'm writing another book,because I just can't shut up.
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And I want to make sure thatwhat I'm experiencing and what
I'm receiving, if you will, isshared with as many people as
possible.
SPEAKER_01 (27:09):
Now, you mentioned something in God Talk about God
being pure love.
Can you maybe expand for ouraudience a little bit?
What do you mean by pure love?
SPEAKER_03 (27:19):
Yeah, I'd be happy to.
I wrote a book on thatparticular subject specifically.
The book is called The GodSolution.
And in The God Solution...
I offer this idea.
The way to solve humanity'sproblems, since 8 out of 10
people believe in a higher powerof some kind, is to redefine
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what that higher power is.
Because here's the challenge.
The challenge is that mostpeople who believe in God
believe in a God of judgment,condemnation, and punishment.
Either you do things God's way,or you're in big trouble.
So, and, you know, The rules aredifferent for every religion or
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from religion to religion, butthey all have their own rules.
So what I was told is to invitethe world to redefine God as
pure love.
And when I said to God, okay,what's pure love?
God said, pure love is a lovethat needs, expects, requires,
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and demands nothing in return.
We can't even love the person onthe pillow next to us with that
kind of purity.
Much less can we imagine a Godwho loves us that way.
Because we've been taught abouta God who's just the opposite.
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No, no, no, no, no.
You don't understand.
God needs certain things.
He needs you to obey the TenCommandments.
He needs you to go to Mass everySunday.
He needs you to go toconfession.
He needs you to do this.
He needs you to do that.
He needs you not to do this, notto do that, not to do this, not
to do that.
He's got lots of rules, and boy,you better obey those rules or
you're going to be in bigtrouble.
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So we've been taught about adifferent kind of God.
Not a God of pure love, but aGod of Conditional love.
I love you if.
And what God said to me in thebook, God's Solution, is I don't
love you if.
I love you because.
I love you because you are mychild, my creation, a part of
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me.
There's no separation betweenus.
And so I love you completely,even as you would love a child
of your own.
And so, pure love is youropportunity to experience me and
yourself in a way that you'venever experienced either one of
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us before.
And so, by the way,incidentally, the book, The God
Solution, is available toanybody who wants it.
If somebody sends me an emailsaying, could I have a copy of
that.
I can't send a hard copy.
Obviously, I don't havethousands of them in my garage,
but I do have it on my computer,and I can send people the
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author's manuscript in a digitalfile, and I'll send it to
anybody who writes me and asksfor it, no charge, totally free.
You want the author'smanuscript?
I'll send it back to you byreturn email.
The book is called The GodSolution.
SPEAKER_01 (30:28):
Awesome.
In my email, if you want toemail me, for listeners who are
interested in that, I'll getthat to Neil, is dash.grace at
gmail, D-A-S-H dot G-R-A-C-E atgmail.
Thank you, Neil.
That would be fantastic to sharewith our listeners.
What you were talking aboutthere really resonates with me
in terms of the vengeful, angryGod that we were taught about.
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that the you know still peopleare talking and being taught
about um you know as a youngchild i would never forget i
mean it just one of my earliestmemories is just not not
understanding why are we here atthis church every sunday and we
have to have a fear of god andthe whole thing just never made
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sense to me because it's likewhat what kind of god would you
have to fear And I really thinkthat that's such a disservice to
humanity because it just nevermade any sense.
I don't know.
I don't want to get into thehypotheses as to why that's in
the Bible.
The Bible is full of all kindsof stuff like that that really
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turns off and is a disservice tohumanity, as I said.
But a lot of people believeevery single thing in the Bible
SPEAKER_03 (31:45):
is...
Not just the Bible.
The Quran, the Bible, the Gita.
Yeah.
the Upanishads, the Hebrewsection of the Old Testament.
You know, guys, the doctrines ofevery religion on the earth, not
just the Bible, teach the samething.
Either obey God's commands oryou're in big trouble.
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Some religions even tell youwhat you can wear and what you
cannot wear and what you betternot wear and what you should
wear.
And if you're a female, you musthave your entire face covered at
all times when you're in public.
And by the way, speaking ofbeing in public, you may not
leave your house alone unlessyou're in the company of an
adult male relative.
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Otherwise, you cannot leave thehouse.
And this is the rule.
This is not simply a culturalidea.
This is the spiritual
SPEAKER_01 (32:38):
idea.
Yeah.
So pure love really changesthings drastically.
To put it
SPEAKER_03 (32:50):
mildly.
SPEAKER_01 (32:51):
One of the other things that I wanted to mention
to you is just something thatI've also found the more that
I've explored and learned aboutthe reality that we are all one
with God.
I found that in conversationswith some folks, even with close
friends who I've known for along time, that can be a very...
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controversial concept.
And I believe that it's, youknow, in my experience, it
brings up a level ofaccountability within, you know,
in the conversation.
If we are truly God and we areall have God within us, then we
all should be a lot moreaccountable to what we do and to
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each other, right?
And that turns off a lot ofpeople I've seen.
Have you seen that in yourexperiences or can you expand on
that?
on my experience there a littlebit for our audience?
SPEAKER_03 (33:48):
Well, of course.
And when I brought up these verysame thoughts in my interaction
with the divine, when I said inmy conversations, God, much of
what you just said here, Godsaid to me, Neil, I'm not saying
that you are God in the sense ofbeing the totality of God.
I'm simply saying that you are apart of God.
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I said, you know, help meunderstand more clearly.
God said, okay, look, Have youever been on an ocean liner?
I said, sure, I have.
And God said, okay, have youever seen a wave on the ocean?
I said, sure, I've seen a wave.
God said, is the wave somethingother than the ocean?
Or is it merely an arising inindividual form of the ocean?
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In powerful expression,beautiful in its expression, but
never disconnected from theocean.
It's simply an individualexpression of the ocean.
And When that individualexpression is complete, the wave
simply recedes back into theocean whence it came.
Can you visualize that?
And I said, wow, nobody ever putit to me quite like that.
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And I said, well, you are a waveon the ocean of God, so Neil, go
out there and make waves.
And so that's the analogy thatI've been given, and that's what
I understand is meant by thestatement that we are all one,
that we are all a part of thatwhich we call God, and we are
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individual expressions of thedivine, and that we are not only
one with God, but one with eachother.
And once we embrace, if we everdo embrace, the notion that we
are one with each other, thatwe're not separate from each
other, we're all part of thesame essential essence.
If humanity could ever embracesuch a notion that we are all
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one, the world would changevirtually overnight.
We couldn't do in Ukraine whatwe're doing, having an argument
over a borderline and killingthousands of people because we
can't agree on what the borderbetween two countries should be.
What's going on in the GazaStrip would not be happening.
We've had armed conflict on thisplanet for all but 5% of
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recorded history.
Because we can't find a way tostop killing each other when we
disagree with each other.
I mean, come on, folks.
SPEAKER_01 (36:20):
Did you have a conversation with God about
that?
Of course.
Why do we continue to do that?
SPEAKER_03 (36:26):
Because of fear.
We think that the only way toget our way, or to solve our
differences, if you please, isto use force.
So we've been using force, allkinds of forms of force, not
just military force, economicforce, social force, spiritual
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force.
We've been trying to forcepeople one way or another to do
what we think they should bedoing.
And we do it because we areafraid of what will happen if we
don't get our way.
So fear is the motivatingfactor.
I can't get my way unless youcome my way and do things my
way.
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If you choose my way, noproblem.
SPEAKER_01 (37:10):
Why does God allow us to be, allow some of us to
rule over others with fear?
Why is that part of theexperience that we need to
SPEAKER_03 (37:20):
have?
Because God has given us thegreatest gift of all, the same
gift he would give our ownchildren, free will.
If God wanted us to be nothingmore than minions in a
kingdom...
where you bow down and dowhatever God says and
everything's fine, and if youdon't, then you're in trouble.
If God wanted us to be minionsin the kingdom, he would never
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have given us free will.
But what God wanted us all toexperience was the ability to
create our own reality so thatwe could also experience what
it's like to be the creator,because God wanted us, every
part of God's self, God wantedall parts of itself to
experience the totality ofitself in terms of its
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definition as the creator of itsreality.
So in order for us as God'schildren, if you please, to use
a metaphor, in order for us asGod's creations to experience
ourselves as divine, we wouldhave to have be given free will
to create individually andcollectively our own reality.
And that's precisely what we'vebeen doing on this planet.
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hopefully we will continue toevolve sufficiently if we don't
self-annihilate before it's toolate hopefully we can evolve
sufficiently to agree that we'reacting insanely and we can
create a different reality onthis planet
SPEAKER_01 (38:47):
isn't that what ascension is all about right
those who say we're thevibration of the earth is
changing and collectively we areascending to higher levels is
that Is that what you're talkingabout as well?
SPEAKER_03 (39:00):
Well, yes.
Sometimes people think ofascension in a different way.
They think of leaving the body,you know, as Christ ascended
into heaven.
But if we're using ascension asto mean the same thing as
elevation, the elevation and theexpansion and the growth of our
consciousness, consciousexpansion, yes, then I would
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say, yes, that's myunderstanding.
SPEAKER_01 (39:27):
One of the things that, you know, you talk about
free will, right?
And in the book, I believe youtalk about one of the steps is
people being willing, right?
What do you mean by that interms of what can people do to
be willing?
Like what can people do to helpothers be willing?
SPEAKER_03 (39:46):
Well, willingness is one of the six steps that I
placed in the book about havingyour own conversation with God
to put it into context.
That's what willingness isabout.
And when I discuss what do Imean by willingness to have our
own conversation with God, wehave to be willing to buck the
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system.
We have to be willing to say, Iknow that the cultural story out
there of humanity and thereligious story and the social
story and the economic story andthe philosophical story, I
understand that the entire storytells us, guys, you can't have
your own conversation with God.
Come on.
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I mean...
You're not the Pope.
Maybe God talks to the Pope,fair enough, or the Archbishop
of Canterbury, or the ChiefUlama, or the head rabbi, or
somebody with some kind ofcredentials.
But God isn't going to talk tothe first baseman for the New
York Yankees.
I mean, give me a break, muchless you, Neil.
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Who do you think you are anyway?
So in order for us to accept thefact that God would talk to all
of us, we have to be willing tobuck the system and to stand up
in the face of, you know whatreligions tell us?
Many religions tell us if weclaim that we are hearing
directly from the divine, thatGod is speaking to us and
(41:09):
through us, we're committingblasphemy.
We're committing heresy.
Some religions can put you todeath for simply making such a
claim.
So what I mean by willingness iswe have to have the courage and
the bravery to stand up againstthat whole cultural story and to
(41:30):
say, I'm sorry, guys.
I understand that in your idea,even those of you who do believe
in God, do not accept the factthat God talks to human beings.
Well, maybe he talked to Moses.
Okay, fair enough.
And gave Moses the TenCommandments.
But he doesn't talk...
Well, maybe he talked to Jesusfor a couple of hours and maybe
made Jesus the son of God, buthe doesn't talk to...
(41:53):
Well, maybe he talked to Muslim,Muslim leader Muhammad, bless
his holy name.
So he probably talked toMuhammad, but he doesn't talk...
Well, maybe he talked to Buddhafor a minute, but he didn't...
Well, maybe he talked to MotherMary and to Catherine of Genoa
and to Joan of Arc and to Julianof Norwich and to Mother Teresa
(42:13):
and maybe...
maybe he even talks to hosts ofradio and television podcasts
like Ashley.
Now, no way in the world wouldGod talk directly to Ashley.
Come on.
Would God stoop that low?
Which is one of the six steps inhaving our own conversation with
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God.
Step number two, worthiness.
To accept the fact that all ofus are worthy, not just Moses,
not just Buddha, not just MotherMary or Joan of Arc, but that
all of us are worthy to receiveand are receiving communications
(43:01):
from the divine.
As I said a moment ago, we'resimply calling it something else
because we don't want to getinto trouble with God.
So we call it an epiphany, asudden insight.
But you know, God speaks to usin a thousand different ways
across a million moments in alifetime.
(43:22):
The chance utterance of a friendwe just happen to meet on the
street by coincidence.
The words on the billboard as weturn the corner around and we
see 12 words, giant words on thebillboard that just happen to
direct our attention toprecisely the question we've
been looking at in our mind forthe past three weeks.
(43:42):
The overheard conversation in acoffee shop.
As we listen to two other peopleat the next table arguing about
some philosophical point thatwe've been exploring and looking
deeply at for the past fiveyears.
And here they are talking aboutit.
So God talks to us in a milliondifferent ways.
The lyrics of the next song youhear on the radio.
(44:05):
How many times have you beendriving down the road to have
the radio on and suddenlyrealize, wait a minute, the
lyrics of that song are talkingright to me.
Right now.
It's what I'm going throughright now.
So God is talking to us in athousand different ways across a
million moments.
(44:25):
And it's as simple as that.
None of us are more special thanthe other one.
So we now get to pay attention.
Pay attention to what you'rehearing.
Don't deny it.
Don't claim it's not happening.
Just listen.
Be awake.
Stay awake.
(44:45):
Wakefulness is the fourth step.
And I talk about it in the book.
Stay awake and watch thesemessages come to you.
Many, many ideas that will hityou.
In the middle of the night, youwake up and go, of course, of
(45:07):
course I've got to do that.
Or of course I've got to avoiddoing this.
A feeling you get about certaindecisions you have to make.
Where does that feeling comefrom?
So, we're all havingconversations with God all the
time, not just the Pope.
SPEAKER_01 (45:31):
It's wonderful.
I think it's important for usall to, like you said, to be
awake, to think about it likethat.
You have to be able to bepresent and aware and pause
before reacting in any situationin order to see God in a lot of
ways in those situations.
If we don't slow down, we mightmiss it.
SPEAKER_03 (45:53):
And how can I express, pause to ask myself,
how can I express pure love inthis moment right now?
Especially when I'm confrontedby a person with whom I
dramatically disagree.
How can I disagree agreeably Isthere any way, I mean, do
(46:13):
differences have to createdivisions?
Do contrasts have to createconflicts?
Does opposing points of viewhave to create oppositions?
You know, what is it here thatwe don't understand?
Surely there ought to be a wayfor us to have a different idea
(46:34):
about things without hurtingeach other verbally or worse
yet, physically.
in response to the differencesthat exist between us wow
whatever happened to the frenchstatement which was a statement
of great wisdom indeed
SPEAKER_01 (46:57):
might be a great place for us to stop um neil
thank you so much for your timei um i wonder if you have any
final words from you or from godthat you'd like to share
SPEAKER_03 (47:08):
God gave me a five-word message to share with
the world whenever I had achance to, and I promised that I
would.
Here's God's five-word messageto the world.
You've got me all wrong.
SPEAKER_01 (47:23):
That's great.
Thank you, Neil.
I would love for you to hang onfor a second.
I'll stop the recording.
It's been great talking to you.
Thank you so much for taking thetime to be with us.
I look forward to reading evenmore of your past works and your
future works.
SPEAKER_03 (47:42):
Thank you, my friend.
It was lovely to be with you andI appreciate the opportunity.
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