May 7, 2025 • 65 mins
Siobhan Maguire returns to the show to discuss her work which is helping bring about more of a balance between the masculine and feminine aspects of our world. We discuss twin flames and how we can all shed the vices and bring in the virtues in order to help restore more feminine balance in our male dominated society which has existed since the fall of the Goddesses from the time of Atlantis. All we need to do is to stay in our Hearts, have Faith and Surrender!
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Hello and welcome to the show.
Today we welcome...
Shoban McGuire, back to theshow.
Always good to catch up withShoban.
We're talking about theopportunity to restore a better
balance to our society in termsof the masculine and feminine
balance and what that means interms of finding the kingdom of
God within.
We talk about the fall of thegoddess rule at the time of
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Atlantis.
We talk about the twin flamebetween the, you know, the
desire to and the quest to unitethe male and female.
And we talk about healing theAdam and Eve within by shedding
the vices and bringing in thevirtues.
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Hello, Siobhan.
Welcome to the show.
Welcome back.
So great to see you.
Hi,
SPEAKER_03 (02:28):
Ashley.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having meback again.
You haven't had enough of me atthis stage.
This is my third time in frontof you now.
So I really appreciate youinviting me back here again.
It's great.
SPEAKER_01 (02:40):
Well, I really enjoy talking to you and you're
becoming a regular.
So this is fantastic.
I just appreciate you taking allthe time that you do for me and
for the show, our listeners.
because I know that I could justtell by the number of views that
we're getting with yourepisodes, you're resonating with
my audience.
So I really appreciate you inevery episode you come on.
SPEAKER_03 (03:03):
Thank you.
Thank you for the opportunity toshare whatever wisdom and
guidance that I channel, youknow, spirit channels, lots of
information through me.
And I'm just happy to have, youknow, a platform through your
podcast really to share that.
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
Well, thank you.
And again, and today, you know,you'd shared with me, um, you
wanted to talk about the, um,the need to restore the
masculine and feminine balancein our, in ourselves and in our
society and our world.
Um, so I'm excited about that.
We, I just did a episoderecently with Margaret Starbird
and we talked about, uh, MaryMagdalene and it's a very
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similar type of topic andconversation.
And the fact that the, thefeminine has really been
stripped from our from our worldand our society.
And so when you reached out withthat as a suggested topic, it
kind of hit because it'scompletely, it's synchronicity
with what I just talked toMargaret about.
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And so there must be somethingin our world that we need to
explore on this topic more.
So thank you for suggestingthat.
And I'm just going to give youthe floor now to kind of open up
that conversation.
SPEAKER_03 (04:13):
Well, I mean, you have to look at it on a sole
purpose level.
The biggest sole purpose we havecoming into this lifetime, or
let's say the biggestopportunity as souls that we've
been given this last lifetime,is to become ascended masters.
So what we mean about anascended master, ascended master
is a soul who has mastered allenergies, physical, mental,
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emotional and spiritual.
And irrespective of what ishappening in our environments
around us, we're able to to holdour light, hold our frequency at
a high level.
So that is what's been offeredto us in this lifetime.
And let's look, you know, JesusChrist is an ascended master.
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So we are being given theopportunity in the human vessel
now in this lifetime to be likeJesus.
And he came in as that greatteacher to teach us to walk his
path to walk on the same pathwayas he did, to enable to become
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an ascended master, to gothrough what is called an
ascension process.
So part of that ascensionprocess is us, first of all,
recognizing not just the maleaspect of God, but the female
aspect of God as well.
So the male, the father Godbeing the alpha, the feminine
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God being the omega.
And in the early, you know, theGnostic Christian teachings,
they very much, they use thename Christos Sophia, you know,
really representing both themasculine and feminine aspects
of God.
The Christos, both as the logos,the word of God.
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And then the wisdom was reallythat Sophia, that feminine
aspect, that feminine wisdom.
And it's recently, and I'vetalked to you about this before
on your channel, Jesus saidthose words, it was so powerful
about our return to Eden.
The feminine is the lock, themasculine is the key, and
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together we will open up thegates together.
to the Garden of Eden again, asin we will allow heaven to be on
earth again.
And as we all know, we cancreate our heaven or we can
create our hell on earth.
It really is a choice.
And that is the biggestchallenge at the moment.
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People not wanting to takeresponsibility for their own
lives and where they are intheir soul's evolution and their
own shadow selves.
So We're being offered anopportunity at this moment in
time to go in, have a look atour lives, do the shadow work,
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what aspects of us that need tobe healed, and then accept the
light of who we are, the truthof who we are as divine beings
of light, as Christed childrenof God, our Christed child
within our hearts.
And this is the biggest gift.
The kingdom of God is actuallywithin our own hearts.
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And as I've said before as wellto you, Ashley, you know, our
greatest gift to this world isour heart, our heart love, our
heart light.
And it is our greatestprotection as well.
So it is all within.
And all the time we spent mostof our lifetime looking outside
ourselves to fill ourselves upand as an empty vessel, thinking
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that we need to consume thatwhich is around us, rather than
going within and realizingeverything we need is already
within ourselves.
You know, we came in as thatdivine masculine, divine
feminine Christ.
That blueprint is already in ourheart, in the divine spark
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within our heart.
And it is up to us to find itagain.
And it's buried and buried andburied through layers and
lifetimes of wounding.
And anyone who believes, I guessyou have to believe this and
understand this, you do need tobelieve in the concept of
incarnation, reincarnation,because we have all spent
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several numerous lifetimes inboth a male bodysuit and a
female bodysuit.
So the imbalance that we see onthe planet at the minute between
the male and female is is notthe blame of those in a male
bodysuit in this lifetime orthose in a female bodysuit.
We are all equally responsiblebecause all of us are part of
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having created this imbalancethat has happened in the first
place.
And I don't know if the lastlady you spoke to, you know,
shared, I mean, this all reallygoes back to the fall of of the
goddess temples way, way back inAtlantis 10,000 years ago.
And when the decision was madefor the patriarchal control to
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control the planet, to controlhumanity, to control society, so
the men were to rule and thewomen were to step back, step
down and take very much more asubservient role in society.
And let's face it, that hasn'tworked out very well for us all
because the world at the minuteis, you know, there's so much
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war, there's so much separation,there's so much pain and
suffering on the planet.
And I mean, Jesus has recentlysaid to me, you know, it's very
much, we have created thesituation specifically very
much, I think, from this year,2025, There is no gray area
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anymore.
And you're either going tochoose the path of the light or
the path of the shadow aspect.
We're going to make it so easyand so clear for you to make the
wise choice.
And so a lot of people, even in,let's say, the spiritual
community or the light workingcommunity, a lot of times we
would step from one side and wewould, you know, choose
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sometimes back, forth, back,forth.
But he said, there's no moretime for that.
There's such an acceleration ofenergies on the planet at the
minute that the light, thisplanet is ascending.
Humanity as a collective isascending.
Whether you choose to ascendwith the collective or not is
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completely a choice that yoursoul is making at this moment in
time.
And in order to, let's say, ashe says to me, return home
whole, you must bring themasculine and the feminine that
is within you back into sacredunion within yourself.
And I would say most of yourlisteners are familiar with the
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term twin flame, the twinphenomenon.
And the twin flame phenomenon,so what is a twin flame?
A twin flame is just where avery highly ascended soul has
decided to split into twoaspects of themselves, the male
and the female.
And a number of those veryhighly evolved souls have
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decided to incarnate some intofemale bodies, some into male
bodies.
And their whole modem throughoperation of coming together,
they are going to find eachother on this planet.
They will have this massive soulurge, massive soul drive to be
magnetically pulled backtogether.
in the physical and create thatphysical secret union together.
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Now, in the spiritual community,there's so much on social media
and on YouTube all about this,you know, about finding your
twin flame soul.
And it has been very highlysexualized in not such a nice
way.
And back in the early days, thegolden era of Atlantis, the
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whole idea of...
sexuality, it was very muchabout emerging of energy fields,
emerging of auras, emerging ofchakras, energy wheels, rather
than what we would say today assealing the sexual act, the
orgasm, the very much short,spontaneous moment in time that
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you had, let's say your closest,you know, touch into what it
feels like to be godlike.
So we have sort of lowered thevibration of sexuality within
humanity because we've connectedit purely with that physical
act.
rather than a sexual union ofthe whole chakra column coming
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together and mind, body andspirit.
So it's a union of the wholerather than humans thinking of
that secret union being just asexual union.
So let's see, if we look at thephysical experience that we
have, the two biggest challengesthat we have as humans is number
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one, navigating human emotions.
That's our challenge.
It really is.
And also navigating sexuality.
Because it is the one aspect ofus that You know, we can choose
great light or we can choosevery great darkness.
There's such a polarity inbetween the same and the human
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emotions.
You know, we can choose polesapart there.
So that is the test, theinitiations and the challenges
that when you come into a humanvessel that you're going to
face.
And the end result is you wantto master those emotions.
You want to master them.
the sexuality, which is the maleand female aspects of yourself
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coming into balance, harmony,and then ultimately back home
into sacred union together, youknow, within.
And when you can balance themwithin your own self, then that
means that you are potentially amagnetic match to a sacred
divine partner in anotherbodysuit, let's say.
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But one thing which a lot ofpeople don't understand as well
is not every soul that'sincarnated on this earth has
decided to be in a twin flamedynamic.
A lot of us have decided to comedown and meet God.
various soulmates and we canhave a beautiful, sacred love
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partnership with those soulmatesand experience everything our
soul needed to experience onthis journey.
Because a lot of times our twinflame chose to stay on the other
side, to be able to guide usfrom the other side.
So that doesn't mean that we'reany lesser souls than those who
decided to come in together at asimilar time to be able to come
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back together is that physicalunion in physical bodies.
There's no hierarchy as such,but just those souls that have
chose to come into sacred unionas twin flames in a physical
vessels together, boy, oh boy,are they very challenging
relationships because they havechosen to come together to be
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master teachers for humanity.
And they will go through very,very, very powerful initiations
and tests.
So extremely challenging lives.
those souls will go through.
I mean, the ultimate twin flamesthat we are aware of is Jesus
and Mary Magdalene themselves.
They were twin flame souls.
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You know, Jesus was themasculine Christ and Mary
Magdalene was the feminineChrist.
So together they came togetherin secret union and they came
together and they activated theseven chakras of each other
together back into secret union.
So, yeah, There is a lot ofmisunderstanding out there
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within the spiritual communityas well about, you know, people
thinking that their their twinflame is just going to be
magnetically attracted to them.
The reality is this is a processand it's a it's a process.
It's a work in progress as init's a labor of love.
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You have to work through this.
You have to work through yourmasculine wounding, your
feminine wounding of all thelifetimes you've ever lived.
Because every single one of usis carrying the wounds of the
masculine and the wounds of thefeminine.
And I was actually shown thisreally, really right in front of
my eyes.
I was down on the beach.
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It was last September.
And I was doing some breath workand I usually always go to the
beach in the morning just toreally connect and ground in the
spirit and to meditate.
And I immediately was shown avision of several lifetimes of
me just coming towards it, justlet's say versions of me coming,
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walking towards me.
But they were wounded aspects ofme as lifetimes of me in a male
body.
And it was incredible.
It was just walking towards meas if they were walking back
home into me.
And then after about, I wouldsay about 15, 20 minutes, then
all the female wounded aspectsof me started walking towards me
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as well.
And as each one of them wasstepping back into me, I was
feeling all the pain and thesuffering that that soul had
gone through, all the woundingthat was still, let's say,
unfinished business.
And it was very powerful andvery emotional as that was
happening.
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And at the end of that, I wasable to bring those aspects of
me back into a union within myheart.
Now, I've been through severalinitiations with Jesus and Mary
Magdalene because I channeledthe essence of both those souls
and they have stepped into meseveral times and come into
secret union within my physicalbody.
And, you know, I run a workshopon that, the secret divine mask
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and divine feminine Christstepping back into secret union
within you.
But this was a whole differentlevel.
This was allowing me to reallygo so much deeper into the
shadow aspects of myself, theunfinished business, the
unfinished karma that I hadn'tcompleted.
So.
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Me, they want me to be ateacher.
So what their community, I'mjust a messenger.
The message is not me.
I'm just a conduit of thatmessage.
The message is for humanity, youknow, as a whole.
So basically they guided me thento create what is called, they
told me, we want you to create amaster series called Healing the
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Adam and Eve Within.
You know, so the healing, thewounded masculine and the
wounded feminine within.
So allowing them to come backinto secret union with
themselves as healed and holdvessels, you know, because you
can't descend in this lifetimeuntil you've healed all shadow
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aspects of yourself.
So, you know, it was a verypowerful journey that they took
me through.
Not only did they take methrough a journey, now this
happened from last September andI've just completed it actually
with a group of souls just lastweekend.
So that was like a sixth,seventh month journey they took
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me through of feeding me variousdownloads because you cannot
absorb all of this at one go.
So they'll come through inpiecemeal downloads and
basically you I literally wasthen able to put it together as
a collective grouping of fivedifferent lessons that they took
me through to then be able toshare with other souls in order
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for them to go through theprocess themselves.
But it's so powerful becausewhen we look at what is going on
in the world around us, youknow, When we look at the
female, there's so many woundedaspects of the female out there.
And one of the bigger challengesthat, you know, the souls that
went on this journey with me wasthe female aspects, the wounded
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aspects of ourselves was beingthe victim, playing the victim
and the male being seen as theperpetrator.
of an abuse.
So the male being the abuser,the female being the victim, you
know, and then another aspect ofthe of the feminine would be
very much being the pleaser,having to please all, having to
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please everyone around.
So never, you know, steppingback from love of oneself rather
than having to please everyonearound them, rather than
actually understanding you mustplease yourself and become whole
within in order to be able toshare the highest aspect of
yourself with others.
So there was just all theselittle nuggets of wisdom, not
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just as a process of goingthrough, I would say,
initiations and remembrancesthat we were able to really heal
some very deep locked aspect ofourselves that we didn't even
know that was inside us.
Really, really powerfulinsights.
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So when Jesus and Mary Magdalenedownloaded, you know, the wounds
of the feminine, the wounds ofthe masculine, they also told me
we need to look at healing thevices.
So shedding the vices andhealing.
and integrating the virtues backhome into ourselves.
So just healing the loweraspects of ourselves.
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So for want of a better word, alot of people would, I guess,
understand in the CatholicChurch, we would have been
called the seven deadly sins.
You know, it's much gentleraspect.
I would think wording to call itthe seven vices and then the
seven aspects.
So the higher parts ofourselves, we want to we want to
reintegrate and welcome backhome into our hearts.
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So it's it's very much it's allabout going into the heart.
And at the end of it, you openup your sacred heart.
And once we bring the vices in,you know, back into a state of
healing.
And there's so many aspects ofthese vices you go through and
they give me such a clevervisual to be able to take people
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through a process again andagain and again.
And this is something thatpeople are not going to do in a
day or a week or a month.
This will be a process and youcan spend, put it this way, it's
like peeling back the layers ofan onion.
You may peel all five lessonsback once.
Three months later, you might goback and go, I'm going to go in
and see what is next ready tocome up and go in and do it
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again.
This is something, this is likea tool you can have forever.
You know, it's just there.
It's a series of meditations andvideo teachings.
And it's so powerful.
And they ended it so beautifullyby bringing forth your inner
child.
So having a look at yourChristed child within and the
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wounded inner child within Sothat scared part of you inside
of you that's hiding inside.
And most of us don't know we'veeven got this aspect of
ourselves.
And it's usually hiding in oneof our organs or multiple
organs.
And it's about finding them soeasily and then bringing the
Christ to child and allowingboth of them to hold hands and
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merge together as one and walkhome together as one, healed and
whole.
So very important.
And it's so beautiful.
And it's just allowing you tosee, to be honest, actually, the
beauty that's actually withinourselves, because, you know,
we've, you know, especiallythose brought up in the church,
we can feel ourselves with thesebig sticks about, you know,
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wrongdoings that mistakes we'vemade in the past.
And as Jesus said to me before,you came here to make mistakes.
You came here to learn, to grow,to evolve.
but you're evolving upwards.
You know, the main thing is, isthat you keep on putting one
foot in front of the other andkeep moving forward on the
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ascension process.
And there's 33 steps on thatjourney, you know, and most of
us in the spiritual journey arevery, very high up there.
We're much higher than we even,even would like to acknowledge
ourselves, you know, but we'veallowed at this moment in time.
And I don't know, Ashley, if youagree with me this, but I feel
it from a lot of my clients aswell.
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2025, a number of people in thespiritual community, even as
well, have stepped back a littlebit into fear.
Mother Mary stepped in a coupleof weeks ago and she said to me,
only a third of the lightworkerson the planet at this moment are
operating at the level they needto be at this moment in time.
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Not enough of the lightworkersare stepping up to the next
level.
So let's see it as you'recycling a bicycle along and you
want to change up gear.
You know, you want to move up tothe next level.
They're just they're decidingjust to stay put or even go down
a little bit.
And because, you know, it's thatold fear, you know, it's that
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old patriarchal fear program ormajor patriarchal fear program
stepping back in.
And they're going to go thatfear of my security, safety and
survival back.
How much are my stocks andshares worth?
How much is my property worth?
So they're going into survivalmode of the here and now, rather
than looking at the biggerpicture of where is my soul on
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its journey of evolution in thislifetime?
Because that is the importantthing that we're supposed to be
focusing on now, rather thangetting fixated by the illusion
of fear and that is around us.
And that illusion of fear islike a roller coaster, even in
the stock markets.
It goes up and down that ebb andflow, keeping you as if you're
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walking on eggshells all thetime.
And it's going to keep you in astate of fear.
If you lock yourself into seeingyour life as being positive or
negative by following the stockmarket, You know, you're not
going to enjoy every day.
You're here to enjoy everysingle day.
So what's going to happen in thegreater world out there, you
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personally don't have controlof.
But what you do have control ofis how every day you're waking
up and showing up in the worldfor your own self.
looking after your own self,your own thoughts, how you are
with your partner, your husband,your wife, your kids, your work
colleagues, your neighbors.
SPEAKER_01 (27:23):
So let's explore that a little bit more.
What practical advice would youoffer our listeners who you're
resonating with, but let's saythat maybe they're struggling
with that and they're strugglingwith how do I get beyond that
fear?
And how can I go inward more?
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Like what...
to resolve that fear?
What practical steps can yousuggest that people can act on
to maybe move more toward thatlight?
SPEAKER_03 (27:53):
Yeah, I mean, OK, I had a spirit of really clever.
A lot of times they'll bringsymbols to us and a symbol I've
had for the last couple ofweeks.
And I would have had it beenquite aware of it a number of
years ago.
I've actually had a sparrow hawkevery time I go out of the house
the last couple of weeks.
It like follows me.
It's even in the car above mycar several times.
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It's like, Siobhan, you need torise up and see the bigger
picture all the time rather thanbeing consumed with the street
level of just the here and nowand what's on the news this
evening, you've got to step backfrom that and go, I've been
looked after thus far.
I've got to trust I am going tobe looked after because
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otherwise you can't say you havea faith.
You know, to have faith meansyou know that everything you
need tomorrow is going to bethere and available for you
tomorrow.
And you need to bring yourselfback inside your own self and
just allow this to stop.
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It's that this is one of thebiggest things that the group
that I was working withchallenged.
When we went in and looked atthe wounding of the male energy,
one of the biggest symptoms whenI was taking the group through
the healing, the wounds of themasculine was severe headaches.
Because the male aspect of us,whether you're in a male or
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physical body, can't switch thisoff or heads off.
They just it was incessant.
So everybody was struggling justas if we had some sort of a
metal clamp on our heads orskull cap.
So it was allowing people justI've got one on YouTube.
It's on my website.
I've got a morning meditation.
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When you wake up in the morning,you drop immediately from your
head.
down into your heart and youhand the reins over to your
heart for the day.
I'm going to feel my way throughthe day rather than think my way
through my day.
So be in the moment.
It's, You've got to be in themoment for your day rather than
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seeing what's going to happentomorrow, what's going to happen
next week, because none of usknow what's coming tomorrow.
You've got to embrace and enjoyevery moment of every day in the
here and now, because otherwiseyou're going to drive yourself
crazy.
You know, and it's the wholething about we need to lose our
heads.
Yeah, we need to lose this anddrop completely into the heart.
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And that is where The kingdom ofGod resides.
Peace on earth is in the heart.
The peace is inside the white.
There's a secret white rose,etherically, energetically in
her heart, and it's purity andpeace.
It's the pure divine innocent ofthe Christ, a child within.
And that little child is in astate of complete peace and
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harmony.
It doesn't worry about anythingbecause it knows its parents are
going to provide everything itneeds whenever it needs it.
So it's in the moment.
So when you think of a littlechild, you know, on a swing,
swinging on a huge oak tree backand forth and their feet are up,
they're lying back and the legsare just up and down and they're
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just feeling the wind andthey're feeling free.
That's your Christ to childwithin.
They don't have a care in theworld.
They're in that moment.
And it is as simple as that.
SPEAKER_00 (31:23):
So it comes back to faith.
It's faith.
SPEAKER_03 (31:25):
It does.
Absolutely.
It's what, what I would say whenI went through this process and,
you know, I guess my ownpersonal journey, I have such a
deep sense of knowing thatknowing is not in my head.
That knowing is a feeling thatknowing it's, it's in my, it's
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the brain inside my heart.
It's the eyes within my heartthat sees and knows that
everything I need is going to beprovided for me.
So the answer is in the heart,you know, the head will drive
you crazy.
And also actually the lightcodes coming in at the minute,
when you look at 2025 and overthe last month as well, we've
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had lunar eclipses, we've hadThe spring equinox followed by
immediately by a solar eclipse.
I mean, and then we have thebuild up this whole week for
Easter week.
And I was promised by Jesus,this Easter is going to be
monumental light codes comingin.
If you're carrying a largeamount of, if you're in your
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head, so you're holding on to alot of fear, it is gonna make
you feel very heavy and dense.
And when you have all that lightcoming in, it is going to make
you feel extremely uncomfortablein your physical body.
So it's like the word has to besurrender.
You have to be in a state ofcomplete surrender and trust and
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knowing, you know, faith, trust,knowing every part, every cell
of your body has to believe thatyou are safe, you are protected.
And that's the fundamentals ofthe Let's look at the male and
female aspects of us.
So under the laws of nature, themale is here to be the provider,
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to be the protector, to be theleader.
The female is here to be thecreator.
Let's say, for example, the malebrings, you know, the male
brings the house, but it's thefemale creates the home.
You know, the male brings in themonies to buy the food, but the
female creates the meal.
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You know what I mean?
It's the two together comingtogether to be complementary to
each other.
It's the two parts of the jigsawlocking back into each other,
the lock and the key, to be ableto create something so beautiful
together.
Independently, they can't dothat.
They don't create that sacredharmony, that symphony of light
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together.
The two coming together createso much more than those two
individuals separately.
So beautiful.
We've really got to you've gotto just completely surrender and
trust.
And, you know, with the lightcoming in for Easter this
weekend, it's I mean, I'mactually spending this weekend.
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I'm going to be in Glastonburydown in St.
Mary's Church for three days andjust channeling the huge light
that's going to be coming inthere.
It is the heart chakra of theplanet.
And I am.
I just know there's going to besome really strong, beautiful,
powerful energies coming in thisEaster.
And I would just say to people,just go out and stand in the sun
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and feel a light.
And also in the nighttime, goout and feel the starlight and
the moon, because the sun is themasculine energy.
The moon is the feminine energy.
So we have to get that balance.
And that's why the lunar eclipseand the solar eclipse are you
know, was bringing the balanceof both.
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The spring equinox is bringingthe perfect balance of day and
night, the masculine, thefeminine.
So we've been offered a hugeopportunity right at this moment
in time to balance the masculineand feminine within our own
selves and back into humanity.
SPEAKER_01 (35:23):
You know, one thing I wanted to kind of go back, you
mentioned about the masculineand being the provider.
You know, there's a lot of folkswho are struggling right now
with providing right the the jobmarket you know is is pretty
tough there's a lot of folksthat may be you know in a
relationship and maybe they'rethe the masculine dimension of
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it is not delivering theprovisions that they're used to
like what would you say in thosesituations to people who are
having trouble because theydon't have the job they're not
able to provide um the masculineaspect for their feminine
partner
SPEAKER_03 (36:02):
yeah no absolutely and i think I think we've got to
be realistic and look at this.
This is a secret union of apartnership together.
There are going to be seasons inyour relationship when you're
going to have to swap roles.
Because if you've got themasculine and feminine within
you, you know, there's going tobe parts of you that, you know,
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sometimes...
Me as the feminine, I have to bethe provider.
Other times I have to drop intobeing mum, into being, you know,
that much more feminine aspectof me.
But there's certain stages of mylife I've had to stand up to be
more the provider.
But that is when that's apartnership that you have
together.
You know, obviously it's a lotmore challenging if you have
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young children, you've got a bigmortgage to pay and you've got
the responsibility of earning onjust the meal, the mums at home.
But I mean, both playing very,very important pivotal roles
within the family unit.
But at a different stage of yourlife, if that changes and it
still works, it still worksbecause you're still in
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partnership with each other.
You're still supporting eachother.
So there should be no guilt orshame on that level.
That's when you know you've gotthat balance and harmony between
each other, that there should beno judgment.
If you are both, this is wherecommunication is so important,
that you both communicate howyou are feeling.
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You know, I guess a lot of timesthe male will feel demasculated
if he doesn't have his corporatewage or salary coming in on a
monthly basis.
And his wife, for example, isproviding the bread and butter
on the table for that window oftime.
But it's just an understandingis that we all have the
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masculine and feminine aspectsof us within.
And during the, let's say, thejourney of our soul, if we're in
sacred union with a partner, ahusband, wife or partner in this
lifetime, there are going to betimes where both of us will step
up at a different capacity.
And that is where you just showeach other that you're actually
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there for each other.
There's not your relationship isnot just one dimensional.
You know, you're allowed to giveeach other that seesaw effect,
that balancing effect thatyou're allowed to explore.
Let's say another creativeaspect of yourself to see how Is
there more to me than just whatI've lived for the past X, Y and
Z number of years?
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And then that other aspect ofthe female or whatever is
allowed to experience anotheraspect of herself.
But I would say the mostimportant thing is communication
to understand what roles you'reboth playing at that moment in
time and the necessity to knowthat it's an evolution.
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all relationships within yourown self as an evolution, but
also relationships within amarriage.
A marriage is an evolution and ajourney.
Before you have children, whenyou have children, when they've
left the nest and then after it,I mean, it's so many different
stages of an evolution.
I think one of the definitewoundings that did come in when
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we were doing the femininewounding was I think the
exasperation of a hugerequirement being put on their
shoulders to be everything, tobe having young kids.
So having babies at home, havingto leave them in daycare, having
the responsibility to go out toa corporate job, taking them
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from daycare, then having to doeverything at home as well as a
corporate job as well.
It's just complete overwhelm atthat stage of a relationship.
And I mean, I know, you know,that is a massive amount of
overwhelm and that will takepeople nearly to the edge.
But this is one thing is thatthat stay at home mum in today's
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society has been degraded, likeas a level of you're lazy,
you're not providing, you're alesser than within the
relationship.
My goodness, the job of managingthe house and managing children
is you're a project manager oflots of different projects.
But, you know, relationshipsevolve, marriages evolve, and
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there has to be that, you know,seesaw effect that, you know, we
allow each other to step up atdifferent levels and take on
those different roles.
As long as both are comfortable,I would say, doing that.
But I think the key would becommunication.
You're both working together asa team together for the greater
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good of the family unit.
So if one partner isn't in ahigh earning job, well, the
other, you know, it's about thatcommunication to say, I need
your support at the minute.
I'm going through this stage ofmy soul's evolvement and I'm
trying as best as I can to moveup, but you need that support.
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And if you don't feel you havethat support, that's where you
will flounder perhaps.
So instead of moving yourselfup, you will actually end up on
a treadmill of going around in acircle of floundering rather
than allowing yourself to be thehighest version of you in a new
role within that relationship.
Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_01 (41:26):
Yes, thank you.
I think it's a very timely topicfor a lot of people.
I see this happening quite a bitin our society today.
Again, I try not to watch thenews, but there is a lot of
unrest, let's just say, withregards to how people are
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progressing in their careers orhave concerns about AI taking
jobs away and all kinds ofdifferent things that are
happening now that make it morechallenging for many people.
I want to go back a little bit.
I'm intrigued by something yousaid early on in our
conversation about the fall ofthe goddess in the Atlantean
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times.
What can you share with us moreabout that and what specifically
happened and why?
Why did we move into thismasculine dominated era?
SPEAKER_03 (42:23):
Well, we had been in a very much a matriarchal
controlled society then.
So it was basically a decisionwas made by a group of highly
evolved souls called theIntergalactic Council of Light
for humanity.
You've got to understand, let'ssay the dynasty of Atlantis, the
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times of Atlantis.
Atlantis rose and fell sixtimes.
It was an experiment to see Imean, humanity came here to
experience the full spectrum ofemotions.
So it was really how far canhumanity fall from God and how
are we going to make our wayback to God?
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So Atlantis rose and fell sixtimes.
And that happened over a period,a long period of time.
We're talking about like twohundred and forty thousand
years.
And the great Diana Cooper talksa lot more about this in her
books.
But it was basically a time of,let's say, the golden era
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Atlantis, which is somethingwhich we're looking to reenact
in the very near future, is thatSo what happened in the fall of
Atlantean temples?
Unfortunately, the femalesstepped back and down, allowing
the male to take that very muchleadership road in society.
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But what that actually createdwas a competitive environment
between females.
So the females, there wascompetition to see who could
compete.
Partner with the powerful men inorder to survive.
It was basically everything wentinto survival mode then.
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So the females all of a suddenbecame competition to each
other.
And even today's society, Imean, we see this all over
SPEAKER_01 (44:21):
the place.
Very much.
SPEAKER_03 (44:23):
And the men have actually masculine energy has
used that to their advantage.
You know, is that if the femalesare pitting against each other
and the thing is, and I say to alot of you know, female clients.
If we don't honor and respecteach other as females, how on
earth can we expect men in malebody suits to respect us if we
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don't even respect each other?
Because we need to set theexample.
Whereas if we're trampling allover each other to get, you
know, to the top, that justshows somebody who's completely
separated from their God selfcompletely in a service to self
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mode.
And that's what we're not hereto be.
I mean, the golden age ofAtlanta, the blueprint for that
is now available to humanity.
And that was a fifth dimensionalsociety living on a three
dimensional planet.
Earth was three dimensional atthat time.
But this planet is moving to afifth dimensional frequency, you
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know, and There's aspects of itare already ascended.
So we're being offered now a newgolden era of a fifth
dimensional humanity, fifthdimensional society living on a
fifth dimensional planet.
That has never happened before.
So that's why we're getting somuch support from Spirit to go,
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please, humanity, choose now.
the path of the light.
Really, really, I mean, becauseearth is ascending.
So we want as many humans toascend with this planet because
those that are choosing not toascend, Jesus said to me, they
are merely infants in spirit.
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Those that are not choosing thelight.
And he said, many, I've calledall my flock home and many are
choosing not to see and not tohear because they're merely
infants.
They just, um, They're going toneed to come back for a number
of other incarnations to learnand evolve and grow and clear
more karma before they're ableto.
But at this moment in time, it'sstill up for grabs.
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Every single soul on this planetis being offered the opportunity
to choose the light and be partof this new golden era.
And actually, this is happeningso much quicker than we know it.
I mean, 2032 is going to be theend of the law of karma.
The law of karma is actually thelaw of love.
So this universe loves us somuch that it's allowing us
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opportunity again and again andagain to come back again and
again and again to learn thesame old lessons until we
actually get the wisdom of thelesson, the test that we were
meant to learn.
And then we're able to, huh,I've done it and lift ourselves
up to the next level and ableto.
So we are going to step off thekarmatic wheel that is those
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that are choosing it.
But you have to do the work.
So the choice at the minute isvery, very simple.
Do you choose love or do youchoose fear?
Do you choose to step into yourheart or do you choose to live
completely in your head, whichwill tell you a whole lot of
fear stories, a whole lot oflie, and you will end up
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connecting into everythingthat's in the wider media, the
greater illusion outside of you,and you will live as part of the
illusion.
And if you want that to be youruniverse, your world, your
day-to-day modus operandum, thatis exactly what it's going to
be.
However, you can create your owngolden universe within your own
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vessel, within your own family,within your own household,
within the greater world aroundyou, just knowing the old is
falling away.
And it's going to lookdestructive out there.
It's going to look messy outthere, but we've got to let it
go.
Because if we don't let the oldsystems that we know are not
serving us anymore fall down,fall away, we're not going to
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give space for the new in ourlives to come in.
And there's so many incredibletechnologies and inventions that
are already here.
But because there's so muchother noise in the media, They
haven't been given the space,the time to go, people to
realize there's all this otheramazing stuff out there just
waiting for us.
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So it's for people not to befearful.
You've got to let go of the old.
You've got to release theoldest.
It's like Jesus has said so manytimes to me, take off the old
body suit, lay it on the altarof your soul.
I take soul through this and mychromatic clearance, but you can
do it yourself.
Go into a church.
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sit in front of a candle, sitout in nature at a tree, take
off the old bodysuit, say, Isurrender.
You take it off you and allowyourself to be new, to be
rebirthed.
You know, and Jesus always says,I have a new set of garments for
you.
You just need to put them on.
Anything that you think isunforgivable is forgivable.
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I mean, Jesus has said, layeverything at my feet and I will
forgive.
You just need to be willing tosurrender.
It is that thing that we'vetalked about before, Ashley, is
about allowing yourself toforgive yourself in order to
surrender and feel that you'reworthy of that forgiveness.
So the simplicity, let's make itvery simple then.
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So the simplicity of the worldat the minute is, do I choose
love?
Do I choose fear?
OK, do I choose service to self?
Do I choose service to all?
OK, so am I making choices forthe for the greater good of my
partner, for my family, for mycommunity?
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Or am I going to go?
How is all of this working outfor me?
You know, so that just to saythe channelings I've got from
Spurs very much.
If you're in the service to allof your heart centered, You are
going to be supported becausethe old vibrations of service to
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self of fear are not going to besupported anymore.
So if you are dropping into yourheart in a state of complete
surrender, just give it all up.
You've got to give it all up.
And it's actually my firstinterview with you.
I told my story.
I had to come in.
intense pain and suffering on myknees to surrender.
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But when I did, I was giftedheaven on earth, you know,
complete bliss.
So a lot of us, it can take somuch of us to actually surrender
because we fight our own lightwithin.
And the light is the divinemasculine and feminine that's in
our hearts.
It's our true self.
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Their best friends are male andfemale inside us.
just waiting for us to, youknow, welcome them back in and
acknowledge them and go, that isthe male and female aspect of me
in there.
And I'm not ugly.
I'm not fearful.
I'm not unworthy.
I'm not, I'm not a sinner.
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I'm not, you know, there's allthese ugly words that we can
paint upon ourselves.
You know, I'm not good enough.
I'm not providing for my family.
I'm not a great provider.
I You know, it's just, you'vegot to step back from what's
immediately in your arena.
You know, this is only a verysmall window in our soul's
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evolution.
We've been here thousands oftimes.
This is their master life.
We're beginning an opportunityright now to ascend, to become
an ascendant master like JesusChrist when we leave and go to
the other side.
I mean, that is a big prize.
That's the gift of this life.
All you need to do is chooselove, to step into your heart
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and have faith, belief, and justthat knowing within that
everything is going to work out.
And people may say, well, that'sblind faith, but To me, there is
only one type of faith.
You either have faith or youdon't, you know?
It's either you have thatknowing inside or you don't.
And I know that is hard forpeople.
SPEAKER_01 (52:52):
No, I think it is very difficult for people.
But I think it's surrenderingand having faith.
I mean, it has to be the way.
It just feels right when you saythat.
But how do you reconcile thatand say, with, you know, and
maybe this is a good place tokind of give some last thoughts
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as we wrap our discussion too,but, you know, the old saying
that God helps those who helpthemselves, right?
How do you reconcile thesurrender and have faith with
that?
SPEAKER_03 (53:23):
Okay, so Jesus said this to me several times, well,
even recently.
It is like, he said, told me,help those who are willing to
help themselves, right?
You've got to be willing to beopen to something better.
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If you want to sit in a state ofmisery, pain and suffering,
you're going to sit there untilyou figure out this is not the
only option for you.
There is several other optionsfor you.
You've got to you're going tosit there until you realize
SPEAKER_01 (54:02):
surrendering, surrendering and having faith is
helping yourself.
SPEAKER_03 (54:05):
Yes.
When you surrender and havefaith, you realize you have a
choice in the outcome.
Last weekend, I did the DivineMasculine, Divine Feminine
workshop, the secret union withJesus and Mary Magdalene.
As an extra gift at the end ofthat workshop, Jesus brought us
into the scene of the LastSupper.
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And it was so powerful.
So the whole group, we werebrought before Jesus into the
scene of the Last Supper.
And he blessed, he washedeveryone of the group.
He washed our feet and he gaveus all a gift.
And he said, you are bothservant and master.
So you are a servant of God, butyou're a master of your destiny.
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You're a master of your world.
And that is the big, that is theclinching deal for people to
understand.
You can relinquishresponsibility for everything in
your life.
to everything else around you.
But the reality is you have achoice.
You have control of what'saround you.
And at this moment in time, somepeople may say, do you know
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what?
I don't have a job that pays mea corporate salary.
But what else can I do in myday-to-day activities to make to
make good, to make something, toeven walk out a smile, meeting
people, having a conversationwith people can change
somebody's life by just smilingat them walking down the street,
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by having a conversation, givingpeople time.
That's one thing a lot of us,when we walk out, people don't
give you the time of day thesedays.
They're in such a rush.
Just having somebody that givesyou time and has a conversation
with you There's so many otherways other than working in a
corporate job and bringing in amonthly or a weekly salary that
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you can make a difference tothis world.
Yes, it's nice to have thatsecurity, but really, you know,
that security, any soul on thisplanet in a corporate job
working for a big company, thatsecurity can be taken away
tomorrow like that.
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So who really is secure?
in any of those jobs, thesecurity and safety is within.
It has to be within your ownheart and your own faith and
trust that everything you needevery day will come for you and
will be provided for you.
But also there is ask and youshall receive.
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You need to ask Spirit for helpbecause this is another thing I
come across with clients.
I say, you know, have you askedfor assistance with this from
Spirit?
Well, no.
Well, you do need to ask becausewe have so much spiritual
helpers around us.
But there's this, you know, lawof free will.
They cannot intervene on our ownbehalves unless we place the
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request to spirit.
Then all of a sudden they'llrally the troops around us.
And this works like magic.
Every time I ask for help, itcomes in.
Sometimes not the way that Ithink I want it to come in, but
it always works out.
So we've got to be open to thepossibilities and potentialities
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of miracles in our life everyday.
So it's stepping outside thehuman, you know, being a square
peg that has to fit into asquare hole, you know, all the
time.
And everything has to be acertain way.
Why?
Why does it have to be a certainway?
Because when we do that, welimit our human experience.
We've got to be open tosomething more.
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And I would say to people aswell, one of your biggest
bouncers and healers at theminute is get out in nature.
You know, get out in nature, getinto the quiet.
This world is too noisy.
Humans are very noisy and it'svery hard to feel peace if
there's a lot of noise aroundyou.
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Whereas if you can go somewherewhere it's peaceful, and even if
that is putting on a set ofheadphones and listening to the
sound of waterfalls and birdssinging, at least it's bringing
you peace.
into a state it's bringing youinto your inner world rather
than you being completely hookedand tentacled in into an outside
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chaotic world you do not want tobe connected into that chaotic
world you can you want to be inyour own sacred sanctuary and
when you need to go out andinteract with that world around
us you will touch in when youneed to communicate with people
you need to but you decide howmuch any of that impacts here
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and here.
It's your choice.
Mary Magdalene said that to meat the beginning of this year.
You have a responsibility,Siobhan.
You can say no to any energythat's around you, irrespective
of how much light or how muchshadow it is.
You have a choice whether youaccept it or not.
So the light codes that's comingin at the minute, you have a
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choice where you want to acceptthe light and allow yourself to
be lifted up in the light orwhether you want to accept the
fear and shadow that's aroundyou and allow that to bring you
down and into a state ofdepression and heaviness.
That is it is a choice.
And that is not me beingflippant because I know it does
take people, you know, it's beenbrave to go.
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There is a choice here.
And any moment you feel in astate of panic, breathe, step
out in the garden and just go,right, what choices do I have
here?
Because people believe sometimesthey don't have a choice, but
there's always a choice.
SPEAKER_01 (59:49):
That's wonderful, Shobhan.
I think that might be a greatspot to wrap.
Is there any last words you'dlike to share with our audience?
I really appreciate everythingyou've shared so far.
SPEAKER_03 (01:00:00):
I'll share.
The biggest thing I wanted forpeople to take away as well is
the Please let there be no blamefor either the male or female in
society as to what is going onon the planet.
We've all been in those male andfemale body suits.
All are responsible equally.
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We're all equal.
And that was another thing Jesussaid at the weekend.
We are all one.
We are all completely equal.
There is no hierarchy, he saidin spirit, you know, and it's
very much about.
We.
As male and female, we have towork together.
We are not here as competitionto each other.
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We're here as complementaryaspects of spirit, both within
ourselves.
But if you can do the healingwork within your own self, it is
going to change everything inyour outside world because you
are going to be in a state ofsacred union within your own
self.
The world around you is going toreflect that state of harmony
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and union and peace within you.
So it's just letting peopleknow, you know, everything you
see outside of you is anillusion.
The realness is in here.
It is inside you.
So you have the power to createpeace or pain inside you.
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And it is the choice.
And every day you need to makethat choice.
Be conscious of what choicesyou're making.
And a lot of times during theday, we are going to catch
ourselves out going into thatstate of fear or pain, but you
don't judge it.
You go, ah, I'm going to pullthat back in.
I'm going to rein it back in.
And it is like a muscle.
You're going to have to exerciseit until you get to a stage.
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You're able to go to the gym.
You do your reps or everything.
And it's like clockwork.
You just do it.
You're like a machine.
So it does take practice and itdoes take work.
Nobody said the sensual processwas going to be easy.
But the biggest thing, actually,this is a very short window of
time.
And we've got to, this is themost challenging times.
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The word spirit of used is theysay at this most secret hour
upon the earth, humanity aremaking decisions now that is
affecting their entire souljourney of lifetimes, thousands
of lifetimes.
So this is the life, pleasechoose love rather than fear.
And it is a choice, you know,and I mean, That's why the
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program I put together, it isjust allowing you in the privacy
of your own home to go insideand do the work, you know, to go
inside and explore.
It's going on a journey ofexplore and excite because a lot
of people are also scared to goin with inside and look within.
I mean, why would you be scaredof the little you inside a
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little Christ, a child andlittle innocent inner child?
They need your attention.
They need your nurturing becausesome part of them along the way
weren't parented the way theywanted to be parented.
So you become your new parents.
You become that sacred divinemother and father to the
children within you.
And that's how you become oneagain and whole again.
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And then the world outside willreflect that.
You know, that is that's thepower you have.
That is the power you have.
That's
SPEAKER_01 (01:03:25):
wonderful.
Thank you so much, Shobhan.
It's always great to talk toyou.
If you want to hang on just asecond, I'd love to speak with
you a couple more minutes afterwe wrap.
But thank you so much forjoining the show.
It's always great to see you.
And thank you for all the goodwork that you're doing and for
helping people.
Thank you.
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You're very welcome.
Thank you so much.
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Hello and welcome to the show.
Today we welcome...
Shoban McGuire, back to theshow.
Always good to catch up withShoban.
We're talking about theopportunity to restore a better
balance to our society in termsof the masculine and feminine
balance and what that means interms of finding the kingdom of
God within.
We talk about the fall of thegoddess rule at the time of
(00:48):
Atlantis.
We talk about the twin flamebetween the, you know, the
desire to and the quest to unitethe male and female.
And we talk about healing theAdam and Eve within by shedding
the vices and bringing in thevirtues.
It's a really great show.
(01:09):
I hope you enjoy it.
And like I said, Siobhan McGuireis always great to have on the
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Her voice is very calming andher perspectives are quite
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Hello, Siobhan.
Welcome to the show.
Welcome back.
So great to see you.
Hi,
SPEAKER_03 (02:28):
Ashley.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having meback again.
You haven't had enough of me atthis stage.
This is my third time in frontof you now.
So I really appreciate youinviting me back here again.
It's great.
SPEAKER_01 (02:40):
Well, I really enjoy talking to you and you're
becoming a regular.
So this is fantastic.
I just appreciate you taking allthe time that you do for me and
for the show, our listeners.
because I know that I could justtell by the number of views that
we're getting with yourepisodes, you're resonating with
my audience.
So I really appreciate you inevery episode you come on.
SPEAKER_03 (03:03):
Thank you.
Thank you for the opportunity toshare whatever wisdom and
guidance that I channel, youknow, spirit channels, lots of
information through me.
And I'm just happy to have, youknow, a platform through your
podcast really to share that.
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
Well, thank you.
And again, and today, you know,you'd shared with me, um, you
wanted to talk about the, um,the need to restore the
masculine and feminine balancein our, in ourselves and in our
society and our world.
Um, so I'm excited about that.
We, I just did a episoderecently with Margaret Starbird
and we talked about, uh, MaryMagdalene and it's a very
(03:40):
similar type of topic andconversation.
And the fact that the, thefeminine has really been
stripped from our from our worldand our society.
And so when you reached out withthat as a suggested topic, it
kind of hit because it'scompletely, it's synchronicity
with what I just talked toMargaret about.
(04:01):
And so there must be somethingin our world that we need to
explore on this topic more.
So thank you for suggestingthat.
And I'm just going to give youthe floor now to kind of open up
that conversation.
SPEAKER_03 (04:13):
Well, I mean, you have to look at it on a sole
purpose level.
The biggest sole purpose we havecoming into this lifetime, or
let's say the biggestopportunity as souls that we've
been given this last lifetime,is to become ascended masters.
So what we mean about anascended master, ascended master
is a soul who has mastered allenergies, physical, mental,
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emotional and spiritual.
And irrespective of what ishappening in our environments
around us, we're able to to holdour light, hold our frequency at
a high level.
So that is what's been offeredto us in this lifetime.
And let's look, you know, JesusChrist is an ascended master.
(04:58):
So we are being given theopportunity in the human vessel
now in this lifetime to be likeJesus.
And he came in as that greatteacher to teach us to walk his
path to walk on the same pathwayas he did, to enable to become
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an ascended master, to gothrough what is called an
ascension process.
So part of that ascensionprocess is us, first of all,
recognizing not just the maleaspect of God, but the female
aspect of God as well.
So the male, the father Godbeing the alpha, the feminine
(05:39):
God being the omega.
And in the early, you know, theGnostic Christian teachings,
they very much, they use thename Christos Sophia, you know,
really representing both themasculine and feminine aspects
of God.
The Christos, both as the logos,the word of God.
(06:03):
And then the wisdom was reallythat Sophia, that feminine
aspect, that feminine wisdom.
And it's recently, and I'vetalked to you about this before
on your channel, Jesus saidthose words, it was so powerful
about our return to Eden.
The feminine is the lock, themasculine is the key, and
(06:26):
together we will open up thegates together.
to the Garden of Eden again, asin we will allow heaven to be on
earth again.
And as we all know, we cancreate our heaven or we can
create our hell on earth.
It really is a choice.
And that is the biggestchallenge at the moment.
(06:48):
People not wanting to takeresponsibility for their own
lives and where they are intheir soul's evolution and their
own shadow selves.
So We're being offered anopportunity at this moment in
time to go in, have a look atour lives, do the shadow work,
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what aspects of us that need tobe healed, and then accept the
light of who we are, the truthof who we are as divine beings
of light, as Christed childrenof God, our Christed child
within our hearts.
And this is the biggest gift.
The kingdom of God is actuallywithin our own hearts.
(07:31):
And as I've said before as wellto you, Ashley, you know, our
greatest gift to this world isour heart, our heart love, our
heart light.
And it is our greatestprotection as well.
So it is all within.
And all the time we spent mostof our lifetime looking outside
ourselves to fill ourselves upand as an empty vessel, thinking
(07:54):
that we need to consume thatwhich is around us, rather than
going within and realizingeverything we need is already
within ourselves.
You know, we came in as thatdivine masculine, divine
feminine Christ.
That blueprint is already in ourheart, in the divine spark
(08:15):
within our heart.
And it is up to us to find itagain.
And it's buried and buried andburied through layers and
lifetimes of wounding.
And anyone who believes, I guessyou have to believe this and
understand this, you do need tobelieve in the concept of
incarnation, reincarnation,because we have all spent
(08:36):
several numerous lifetimes inboth a male bodysuit and a
female bodysuit.
So the imbalance that we see onthe planet at the minute between
the male and female is is notthe blame of those in a male
bodysuit in this lifetime orthose in a female bodysuit.
We are all equally responsiblebecause all of us are part of
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having created this imbalancethat has happened in the first
place.
And I don't know if the lastlady you spoke to, you know,
shared, I mean, this all reallygoes back to the fall of of the
goddess temples way, way back inAtlantis 10,000 years ago.
And when the decision was madefor the patriarchal control to
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control the planet, to controlhumanity, to control society, so
the men were to rule and thewomen were to step back, step
down and take very much more asubservient role in society.
And let's face it, that hasn'tworked out very well for us all
because the world at the minuteis, you know, there's so much
(09:45):
war, there's so much separation,there's so much pain and
suffering on the planet.
And I mean, Jesus has recentlysaid to me, you know, it's very
much, we have created thesituation specifically very
much, I think, from this year,2025, There is no gray area
(10:05):
anymore.
And you're either going tochoose the path of the light or
the path of the shadow aspect.
We're going to make it so easyand so clear for you to make the
wise choice.
And so a lot of people, even in,let's say, the spiritual
community or the light workingcommunity, a lot of times we
would step from one side and wewould, you know, choose
(10:28):
sometimes back, forth, back,forth.
But he said, there's no moretime for that.
There's such an acceleration ofenergies on the planet at the
minute that the light, thisplanet is ascending.
Humanity as a collective isascending.
Whether you choose to ascendwith the collective or not is
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completely a choice that yoursoul is making at this moment in
time.
And in order to, let's say, ashe says to me, return home
whole, you must bring themasculine and the feminine that
is within you back into sacredunion within yourself.
And I would say most of yourlisteners are familiar with the
(11:10):
term twin flame, the twinphenomenon.
And the twin flame phenomenon,so what is a twin flame?
A twin flame is just where avery highly ascended soul has
decided to split into twoaspects of themselves, the male
and the female.
And a number of those veryhighly evolved souls have
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decided to incarnate some intofemale bodies, some into male
bodies.
And their whole modem throughoperation of coming together,
they are going to find eachother on this planet.
They will have this massive soulurge, massive soul drive to be
magnetically pulled backtogether.
in the physical and create thatphysical secret union together.
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Now, in the spiritual community,there's so much on social media
and on YouTube all about this,you know, about finding your
twin flame soul.
And it has been very highlysexualized in not such a nice
way.
And back in the early days, thegolden era of Atlantis, the
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whole idea of...
sexuality, it was very muchabout emerging of energy fields,
emerging of auras, emerging ofchakras, energy wheels, rather
than what we would say today assealing the sexual act, the
orgasm, the very much short,spontaneous moment in time that
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you had, let's say your closest,you know, touch into what it
feels like to be godlike.
So we have sort of lowered thevibration of sexuality within
humanity because we've connectedit purely with that physical
act.
rather than a sexual union ofthe whole chakra column coming
(13:05):
together and mind, body andspirit.
So it's a union of the wholerather than humans thinking of
that secret union being just asexual union.
So let's see, if we look at thephysical experience that we
have, the two biggest challengesthat we have as humans is number
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one, navigating human emotions.
That's our challenge.
It really is.
And also navigating sexuality.
Because it is the one aspect ofus that You know, we can choose
great light or we can choosevery great darkness.
There's such a polarity inbetween the same and the human
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emotions.
You know, we can choose polesapart there.
So that is the test, theinitiations and the challenges
that when you come into a humanvessel that you're going to
face.
And the end result is you wantto master those emotions.
You want to master them.
the sexuality, which is the maleand female aspects of yourself
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coming into balance, harmony,and then ultimately back home
into sacred union together, youknow, within.
And when you can balance themwithin your own self, then that
means that you are potentially amagnetic match to a sacred
divine partner in anotherbodysuit, let's say.
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But one thing which a lot ofpeople don't understand as well
is not every soul that'sincarnated on this earth has
decided to be in a twin flamedynamic.
A lot of us have decided to comedown and meet God.
various soulmates and we canhave a beautiful, sacred love
(14:58):
partnership with those soulmatesand experience everything our
soul needed to experience onthis journey.
Because a lot of times our twinflame chose to stay on the other
side, to be able to guide usfrom the other side.
So that doesn't mean that we'reany lesser souls than those who
decided to come in together at asimilar time to be able to come
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back together is that physicalunion in physical bodies.
There's no hierarchy as such,but just those souls that have
chose to come into sacred unionas twin flames in a physical
vessels together, boy, oh boy,are they very challenging
relationships because they havechosen to come together to be
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master teachers for humanity.
And they will go through very,very, very powerful initiations
and tests.
So extremely challenging lives.
those souls will go through.
I mean, the ultimate twin flamesthat we are aware of is Jesus
and Mary Magdalene themselves.
They were twin flame souls.
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You know, Jesus was themasculine Christ and Mary
Magdalene was the feminineChrist.
So together they came togetherin secret union and they came
together and they activated theseven chakras of each other
together back into secret union.
So, yeah, There is a lot ofmisunderstanding out there
(16:29):
within the spiritual communityas well about, you know, people
thinking that their their twinflame is just going to be
magnetically attracted to them.
The reality is this is a processand it's a it's a process.
It's a work in progress as init's a labor of love.
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You have to work through this.
You have to work through yourmasculine wounding, your
feminine wounding of all thelifetimes you've ever lived.
Because every single one of usis carrying the wounds of the
masculine and the wounds of thefeminine.
And I was actually shown thisreally, really right in front of
my eyes.
I was down on the beach.
(17:12):
It was last September.
And I was doing some breath workand I usually always go to the
beach in the morning just toreally connect and ground in the
spirit and to meditate.
And I immediately was shown avision of several lifetimes of
me just coming towards it, justlet's say versions of me coming,
(17:32):
walking towards me.
But they were wounded aspects ofme as lifetimes of me in a male
body.
And it was incredible.
It was just walking towards meas if they were walking back
home into me.
And then after about, I wouldsay about 15, 20 minutes, then
all the female wounded aspectsof me started walking towards me
(17:54):
as well.
And as each one of them wasstepping back into me, I was
feeling all the pain and thesuffering that that soul had
gone through, all the woundingthat was still, let's say,
unfinished business.
And it was very powerful andvery emotional as that was
happening.
(18:15):
And at the end of that, I wasable to bring those aspects of
me back into a union within myheart.
Now, I've been through severalinitiations with Jesus and Mary
Magdalene because I channeledthe essence of both those souls
and they have stepped into meseveral times and come into
secret union within my physicalbody.
And, you know, I run a workshopon that, the secret divine mask
(18:39):
and divine feminine Christstepping back into secret union
within you.
But this was a whole differentlevel.
This was allowing me to reallygo so much deeper into the
shadow aspects of myself, theunfinished business, the
unfinished karma that I hadn'tcompleted.
So.
(18:59):
Me, they want me to be ateacher.
So what their community, I'mjust a messenger.
The message is not me.
I'm just a conduit of thatmessage.
The message is for humanity, youknow, as a whole.
So basically they guided me thento create what is called, they
told me, we want you to create amaster series called Healing the
(19:24):
Adam and Eve Within.
You know, so the healing, thewounded masculine and the
wounded feminine within.
So allowing them to come backinto secret union with
themselves as healed and holdvessels, you know, because you
can't descend in this lifetimeuntil you've healed all shadow
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aspects of yourself.
So, you know, it was a verypowerful journey that they took
me through.
Not only did they take methrough a journey, now this
happened from last September andI've just completed it actually
with a group of souls just lastweekend.
So that was like a sixth,seventh month journey they took
(20:08):
me through of feeding me variousdownloads because you cannot
absorb all of this at one go.
So they'll come through inpiecemeal downloads and
basically you I literally wasthen able to put it together as
a collective grouping of fivedifferent lessons that they took
me through to then be able toshare with other souls in order
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for them to go through theprocess themselves.
But it's so powerful becausewhen we look at what is going on
in the world around us, youknow, When we look at the
female, there's so many woundedaspects of the female out there.
And one of the bigger challengesthat, you know, the souls that
went on this journey with me wasthe female aspects, the wounded
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aspects of ourselves was beingthe victim, playing the victim
and the male being seen as theperpetrator.
of an abuse.
So the male being the abuser,the female being the victim, you
know, and then another aspect ofthe of the feminine would be
very much being the pleaser,having to please all, having to
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please everyone around.
So never, you know, steppingback from love of oneself rather
than having to please everyonearound them, rather than
actually understanding you mustplease yourself and become whole
within in order to be able toshare the highest aspect of
yourself with others.
So there was just all theselittle nuggets of wisdom, not
(21:37):
just as a process of goingthrough, I would say,
initiations and remembrancesthat we were able to really heal
some very deep locked aspect ofourselves that we didn't even
know that was inside us.
Really, really powerfulinsights.
(21:58):
So when Jesus and Mary Magdalenedownloaded, you know, the wounds
of the feminine, the wounds ofthe masculine, they also told me
we need to look at healing thevices.
So shedding the vices andhealing.
and integrating the virtues backhome into ourselves.
So just healing the loweraspects of ourselves.
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So for want of a better word, alot of people would, I guess,
understand in the CatholicChurch, we would have been
called the seven deadly sins.
You know, it's much gentleraspect.
I would think wording to call itthe seven vices and then the
seven aspects.
So the higher parts ofourselves, we want to we want to
reintegrate and welcome backhome into our hearts.
(22:42):
So it's it's very much it's allabout going into the heart.
And at the end of it, you openup your sacred heart.
And once we bring the vices in,you know, back into a state of
healing.
And there's so many aspects ofthese vices you go through and
they give me such a clevervisual to be able to take people
(23:03):
through a process again andagain and again.
And this is something thatpeople are not going to do in a
day or a week or a month.
This will be a process and youcan spend, put it this way, it's
like peeling back the layers ofan onion.
You may peel all five lessonsback once.
Three months later, you might goback and go, I'm going to go in
and see what is next ready tocome up and go in and do it
(23:26):
again.
This is something, this is likea tool you can have forever.
You know, it's just there.
It's a series of meditations andvideo teachings.
And it's so powerful.
And they ended it so beautifullyby bringing forth your inner
child.
So having a look at yourChristed child within and the
(23:47):
wounded inner child within Sothat scared part of you inside
of you that's hiding inside.
And most of us don't know we'veeven got this aspect of
ourselves.
And it's usually hiding in oneof our organs or multiple
organs.
And it's about finding them soeasily and then bringing the
Christ to child and allowingboth of them to hold hands and
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merge together as one and walkhome together as one, healed and
whole.
So very important.
And it's so beautiful.
And it's just allowing you tosee, to be honest, actually, the
beauty that's actually withinourselves, because, you know,
we've, you know, especiallythose brought up in the church,
we can feel ourselves with thesebig sticks about, you know,
(24:33):
wrongdoings that mistakes we'vemade in the past.
And as Jesus said to me before,you came here to make mistakes.
You came here to learn, to grow,to evolve.
but you're evolving upwards.
You know, the main thing is, isthat you keep on putting one
foot in front of the other andkeep moving forward on the
(24:53):
ascension process.
And there's 33 steps on thatjourney, you know, and most of
us in the spiritual journey arevery, very high up there.
We're much higher than we even,even would like to acknowledge
ourselves, you know, but we'veallowed at this moment in time.
And I don't know, Ashley, if youagree with me this, but I feel
it from a lot of my clients aswell.
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2025, a number of people in thespiritual community, even as
well, have stepped back a littlebit into fear.
Mother Mary stepped in a coupleof weeks ago and she said to me,
only a third of the lightworkerson the planet at this moment are
operating at the level they needto be at this moment in time.
(25:35):
Not enough of the lightworkersare stepping up to the next
level.
So let's see it as you'recycling a bicycle along and you
want to change up gear.
You know, you want to move up tothe next level.
They're just they're decidingjust to stay put or even go down
a little bit.
And because, you know, it's thatold fear, you know, it's that
(25:56):
old patriarchal fear program ormajor patriarchal fear program
stepping back in.
And they're going to go thatfear of my security, safety and
survival back.
How much are my stocks andshares worth?
How much is my property worth?
So they're going into survivalmode of the here and now, rather
than looking at the biggerpicture of where is my soul on
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its journey of evolution in thislifetime?
Because that is the importantthing that we're supposed to be
focusing on now, rather thangetting fixated by the illusion
of fear and that is around us.
And that illusion of fear islike a roller coaster, even in
the stock markets.
It goes up and down that ebb andflow, keeping you as if you're
(26:41):
walking on eggshells all thetime.
And it's going to keep you in astate of fear.
If you lock yourself into seeingyour life as being positive or
negative by following the stockmarket, You know, you're not
going to enjoy every day.
You're here to enjoy everysingle day.
So what's going to happen in thegreater world out there, you
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personally don't have controlof.
But what you do have control ofis how every day you're waking
up and showing up in the worldfor your own self.
looking after your own self,your own thoughts, how you are
with your partner, your husband,your wife, your kids, your work
colleagues, your neighbors.
SPEAKER_01 (27:23):
So let's explore that a little bit more.
What practical advice would youoffer our listeners who you're
resonating with, but let's saythat maybe they're struggling
with that and they're strugglingwith how do I get beyond that
fear?
And how can I go inward more?
(27:43):
Like what...
to resolve that fear?
What practical steps can yousuggest that people can act on
to maybe move more toward thatlight?
SPEAKER_03 (27:53):
Yeah, I mean, OK, I had a spirit of really clever.
A lot of times they'll bringsymbols to us and a symbol I've
had for the last couple ofweeks.
And I would have had it beenquite aware of it a number of
years ago.
I've actually had a sparrow hawkevery time I go out of the house
the last couple of weeks.
It like follows me.
It's even in the car above mycar several times.
(28:15):
It's like, Siobhan, you need torise up and see the bigger
picture all the time rather thanbeing consumed with the street
level of just the here and nowand what's on the news this
evening, you've got to step backfrom that and go, I've been
looked after thus far.
I've got to trust I am going tobe looked after because
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otherwise you can't say you havea faith.
You know, to have faith meansyou know that everything you
need tomorrow is going to bethere and available for you
tomorrow.
And you need to bring yourselfback inside your own self and
just allow this to stop.
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It's that this is one of thebiggest things that the group
that I was working withchallenged.
When we went in and looked atthe wounding of the male energy,
one of the biggest symptoms whenI was taking the group through
the healing, the wounds of themasculine was severe headaches.
Because the male aspect of us,whether you're in a male or
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physical body, can't switch thisoff or heads off.
They just it was incessant.
So everybody was struggling justas if we had some sort of a
metal clamp on our heads orskull cap.
So it was allowing people justI've got one on YouTube.
It's on my website.
I've got a morning meditation.
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When you wake up in the morning,you drop immediately from your
head.
down into your heart and youhand the reins over to your
heart for the day.
I'm going to feel my way throughthe day rather than think my way
through my day.
So be in the moment.
It's, You've got to be in themoment for your day rather than
(30:03):
seeing what's going to happentomorrow, what's going to happen
next week, because none of usknow what's coming tomorrow.
You've got to embrace and enjoyevery moment of every day in the
here and now, because otherwiseyou're going to drive yourself
crazy.
You know, and it's the wholething about we need to lose our
heads.
Yeah, we need to lose this anddrop completely into the heart.
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And that is where The kingdom ofGod resides.
Peace on earth is in the heart.
The peace is inside the white.
There's a secret white rose,etherically, energetically in
her heart, and it's purity andpeace.
It's the pure divine innocent ofthe Christ, a child within.
And that little child is in astate of complete peace and
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harmony.
It doesn't worry about anythingbecause it knows its parents are
going to provide everything itneeds whenever it needs it.
So it's in the moment.
So when you think of a littlechild, you know, on a swing,
swinging on a huge oak tree backand forth and their feet are up,
they're lying back and the legsare just up and down and they're
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just feeling the wind andthey're feeling free.
That's your Christ to childwithin.
They don't have a care in theworld.
They're in that moment.
And it is as simple as that.
SPEAKER_00 (31:23):
So it comes back to faith.
It's faith.
SPEAKER_03 (31:25):
It does.
Absolutely.
It's what, what I would say whenI went through this process and,
you know, I guess my ownpersonal journey, I have such a
deep sense of knowing thatknowing is not in my head.
That knowing is a feeling thatknowing it's, it's in my, it's
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the brain inside my heart.
It's the eyes within my heartthat sees and knows that
everything I need is going to beprovided for me.
So the answer is in the heart,you know, the head will drive
you crazy.
And also actually the lightcodes coming in at the minute,
when you look at 2025 and overthe last month as well, we've
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had lunar eclipses, we've hadThe spring equinox followed by
immediately by a solar eclipse.
I mean, and then we have thebuild up this whole week for
Easter week.
And I was promised by Jesus,this Easter is going to be
monumental light codes comingin.
If you're carrying a largeamount of, if you're in your
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head, so you're holding on to alot of fear, it is gonna make
you feel very heavy and dense.
And when you have all that lightcoming in, it is going to make
you feel extremely uncomfortablein your physical body.
So it's like the word has to besurrender.
You have to be in a state ofcomplete surrender and trust and
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knowing, you know, faith, trust,knowing every part, every cell
of your body has to believe thatyou are safe, you are protected.
And that's the fundamentals ofthe Let's look at the male and
female aspects of us.
So under the laws of nature, themale is here to be the provider,
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to be the protector, to be theleader.
The female is here to be thecreator.
Let's say, for example, the malebrings, you know, the male
brings the house, but it's thefemale creates the home.
You know, the male brings in themonies to buy the food, but the
female creates the meal.
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You know what I mean?
It's the two together comingtogether to be complementary to
each other.
It's the two parts of the jigsawlocking back into each other,
the lock and the key, to be ableto create something so beautiful
together.
Independently, they can't dothat.
They don't create that sacredharmony, that symphony of light
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together.
The two coming together createso much more than those two
individuals separately.
So beautiful.
We've really got to you've gotto just completely surrender and
trust.
And, you know, with the lightcoming in for Easter this
weekend, it's I mean, I'mactually spending this weekend.
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I'm going to be in Glastonburydown in St.
Mary's Church for three days andjust channeling the huge light
that's going to be coming inthere.
It is the heart chakra of theplanet.
And I am.
I just know there's going to besome really strong, beautiful,
powerful energies coming in thisEaster.
And I would just say to people,just go out and stand in the sun
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and feel a light.
And also in the nighttime, goout and feel the starlight and
the moon, because the sun is themasculine energy.
The moon is the feminine energy.
So we have to get that balance.
And that's why the lunar eclipseand the solar eclipse are you
know, was bringing the balanceof both.
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The spring equinox is bringingthe perfect balance of day and
night, the masculine, thefeminine.
So we've been offered a hugeopportunity right at this moment
in time to balance the masculineand feminine within our own
selves and back into humanity.
SPEAKER_01 (35:23):
You know, one thing I wanted to kind of go back, you
mentioned about the masculineand being the provider.
You know, there's a lot of folkswho are struggling right now
with providing right the the jobmarket you know is is pretty
tough there's a lot of folksthat may be you know in a
relationship and maybe they'rethe the masculine dimension of
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it is not delivering theprovisions that they're used to
like what would you say in thosesituations to people who are
having trouble because theydon't have the job they're not
able to provide um the masculineaspect for their feminine
partner
SPEAKER_03 (36:02):
yeah no absolutely and i think I think we've got to
be realistic and look at this.
This is a secret union of apartnership together.
There are going to be seasons inyour relationship when you're
going to have to swap roles.
Because if you've got themasculine and feminine within
you, you know, there's going tobe parts of you that, you know,
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sometimes...
Me as the feminine, I have to bethe provider.
Other times I have to drop intobeing mum, into being, you know,
that much more feminine aspectof me.
But there's certain stages of mylife I've had to stand up to be
more the provider.
But that is when that's apartnership that you have
together.
You know, obviously it's a lotmore challenging if you have
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young children, you've got a bigmortgage to pay and you've got
the responsibility of earning onjust the meal, the mums at home.
But I mean, both playing very,very important pivotal roles
within the family unit.
But at a different stage of yourlife, if that changes and it
still works, it still worksbecause you're still in
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partnership with each other.
You're still supporting eachother.
So there should be no guilt orshame on that level.
That's when you know you've gotthat balance and harmony between
each other, that there should beno judgment.
If you are both, this is wherecommunication is so important,
that you both communicate howyou are feeling.
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You know, I guess a lot of timesthe male will feel demasculated
if he doesn't have his corporatewage or salary coming in on a
monthly basis.
And his wife, for example, isproviding the bread and butter
on the table for that window oftime.
But it's just an understandingis that we all have the
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masculine and feminine aspectsof us within.
And during the, let's say, thejourney of our soul, if we're in
sacred union with a partner, ahusband, wife or partner in this
lifetime, there are going to betimes where both of us will step
up at a different capacity.
And that is where you just showeach other that you're actually
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there for each other.
There's not your relationship isnot just one dimensional.
You know, you're allowed to giveeach other that seesaw effect,
that balancing effect thatyou're allowed to explore.
Let's say another creativeaspect of yourself to see how Is
there more to me than just whatI've lived for the past X, Y and
Z number of years?
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And then that other aspect ofthe female or whatever is
allowed to experience anotheraspect of herself.
But I would say the mostimportant thing is communication
to understand what roles you'reboth playing at that moment in
time and the necessity to knowthat it's an evolution.
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all relationships within yourown self as an evolution, but
also relationships within amarriage.
A marriage is an evolution and ajourney.
Before you have children, whenyou have children, when they've
left the nest and then after it,I mean, it's so many different
stages of an evolution.
I think one of the definitewoundings that did come in when
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we were doing the femininewounding was I think the
exasperation of a hugerequirement being put on their
shoulders to be everything, tobe having young kids.
So having babies at home, havingto leave them in daycare, having
the responsibility to go out toa corporate job, taking them
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from daycare, then having to doeverything at home as well as a
corporate job as well.
It's just complete overwhelm atthat stage of a relationship.
And I mean, I know, you know,that is a massive amount of
overwhelm and that will takepeople nearly to the edge.
But this is one thing is thatthat stay at home mum in today's
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society has been degraded, likeas a level of you're lazy,
you're not providing, you're alesser than within the
relationship.
My goodness, the job of managingthe house and managing children
is you're a project manager oflots of different projects.
But, you know, relationshipsevolve, marriages evolve, and
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there has to be that, you know,seesaw effect that, you know, we
allow each other to step up atdifferent levels and take on
those different roles.
As long as both are comfortable,I would say, doing that.
But I think the key would becommunication.
You're both working together asa team together for the greater
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good of the family unit.
So if one partner isn't in ahigh earning job, well, the
other, you know, it's about thatcommunication to say, I need
your support at the minute.
I'm going through this stage ofmy soul's evolvement and I'm
trying as best as I can to moveup, but you need that support.
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And if you don't feel you havethat support, that's where you
will flounder perhaps.
So instead of moving yourselfup, you will actually end up on
a treadmill of going around in acircle of floundering rather
than allowing yourself to be thehighest version of you in a new
role within that relationship.
Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_01 (41:26):
Yes, thank you.
I think it's a very timely topicfor a lot of people.
I see this happening quite a bitin our society today.
Again, I try not to watch thenews, but there is a lot of
unrest, let's just say, withregards to how people are
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progressing in their careers orhave concerns about AI taking
jobs away and all kinds ofdifferent things that are
happening now that make it morechallenging for many people.
I want to go back a little bit.
I'm intrigued by something yousaid early on in our
conversation about the fall ofthe goddess in the Atlantean
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times.
What can you share with us moreabout that and what specifically
happened and why?
Why did we move into thismasculine dominated era?
SPEAKER_03 (42:23):
Well, we had been in a very much a matriarchal
controlled society then.
So it was basically a decisionwas made by a group of highly
evolved souls called theIntergalactic Council of Light
for humanity.
You've got to understand, let'ssay the dynasty of Atlantis, the
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times of Atlantis.
Atlantis rose and fell sixtimes.
It was an experiment to see Imean, humanity came here to
experience the full spectrum ofemotions.
So it was really how far canhumanity fall from God and how
are we going to make our wayback to God?
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So Atlantis rose and fell sixtimes.
And that happened over a period,a long period of time.
We're talking about like twohundred and forty thousand
years.
And the great Diana Cooper talksa lot more about this in her
books.
But it was basically a time of,let's say, the golden era
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Atlantis, which is somethingwhich we're looking to reenact
in the very near future, is thatSo what happened in the fall of
Atlantean temples?
Unfortunately, the femalesstepped back and down, allowing
the male to take that very muchleadership road in society.
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But what that actually createdwas a competitive environment
between females.
So the females, there wascompetition to see who could
compete.
Partner with the powerful men inorder to survive.
It was basically everything wentinto survival mode then.
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So the females all of a suddenbecame competition to each
other.
And even today's society, Imean, we see this all over
SPEAKER_01 (44:21):
the place.
Very much.
SPEAKER_03 (44:23):
And the men have actually masculine energy has
used that to their advantage.
You know, is that if the femalesare pitting against each other
and the thing is, and I say to alot of you know, female clients.
If we don't honor and respecteach other as females, how on
earth can we expect men in malebody suits to respect us if we
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don't even respect each other?
Because we need to set theexample.
Whereas if we're trampling allover each other to get, you
know, to the top, that justshows somebody who's completely
separated from their God selfcompletely in a service to self
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mode.
And that's what we're not hereto be.
I mean, the golden age ofAtlanta, the blueprint for that
is now available to humanity.
And that was a fifth dimensionalsociety living on a three
dimensional planet.
Earth was three dimensional atthat time.
But this planet is moving to afifth dimensional frequency, you
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know, and There's aspects of itare already ascended.
So we're being offered now a newgolden era of a fifth
dimensional humanity, fifthdimensional society living on a
fifth dimensional planet.
That has never happened before.
So that's why we're getting somuch support from Spirit to go,
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please, humanity, choose now.
the path of the light.
Really, really, I mean, becauseearth is ascending.
So we want as many humans toascend with this planet because
those that are choosing not toascend, Jesus said to me, they
are merely infants in spirit.
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Those that are not choosing thelight.
And he said, many, I've calledall my flock home and many are
choosing not to see and not tohear because they're merely
infants.
They just, um, They're going toneed to come back for a number
of other incarnations to learnand evolve and grow and clear
more karma before they're ableto.
But at this moment in time, it'sstill up for grabs.
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Every single soul on this planetis being offered the opportunity
to choose the light and be partof this new golden era.
And actually, this is happeningso much quicker than we know it.
I mean, 2032 is going to be theend of the law of karma.
The law of karma is actually thelaw of love.
So this universe loves us somuch that it's allowing us
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opportunity again and again andagain to come back again and
again and again to learn thesame old lessons until we
actually get the wisdom of thelesson, the test that we were
meant to learn.
And then we're able to, huh,I've done it and lift ourselves
up to the next level and ableto.
So we are going to step off thekarmatic wheel that is those
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that are choosing it.
But you have to do the work.
So the choice at the minute isvery, very simple.
Do you choose love or do youchoose fear?
Do you choose to step into yourheart or do you choose to live
completely in your head, whichwill tell you a whole lot of
fear stories, a whole lot oflie, and you will end up
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connecting into everythingthat's in the wider media, the
greater illusion outside of you,and you will live as part of the
illusion.
And if you want that to be youruniverse, your world, your
day-to-day modus operandum, thatis exactly what it's going to
be.
However, you can create your owngolden universe within your own
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vessel, within your own family,within your own household,
within the greater world aroundyou, just knowing the old is
falling away.
And it's going to lookdestructive out there.
It's going to look messy outthere, but we've got to let it
go.
Because if we don't let the oldsystems that we know are not
serving us anymore fall down,fall away, we're not going to
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give space for the new in ourlives to come in.
And there's so many incredibletechnologies and inventions that
are already here.
But because there's so muchother noise in the media, They
haven't been given the space,the time to go, people to
realize there's all this otheramazing stuff out there just
waiting for us.
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So it's for people not to befearful.
You've got to let go of the old.
You've got to release theoldest.
It's like Jesus has said so manytimes to me, take off the old
body suit, lay it on the altarof your soul.
I take soul through this and mychromatic clearance, but you can
do it yourself.
Go into a church.
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sit in front of a candle, sitout in nature at a tree, take
off the old bodysuit, say, Isurrender.
You take it off you and allowyourself to be new, to be
rebirthed.
You know, and Jesus always says,I have a new set of garments for
you.
You just need to put them on.
Anything that you think isunforgivable is forgivable.
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I mean, Jesus has said, layeverything at my feet and I will
forgive.
You just need to be willing tosurrender.
It is that thing that we'vetalked about before, Ashley, is
about allowing yourself toforgive yourself in order to
surrender and feel that you'reworthy of that forgiveness.
So the simplicity, let's make itvery simple then.
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So the simplicity of the worldat the minute is, do I choose
love?
Do I choose fear?
OK, do I choose service to self?
Do I choose service to all?
OK, so am I making choices forthe for the greater good of my
partner, for my family, for mycommunity?
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Or am I going to go?
How is all of this working outfor me?
You know, so that just to saythe channelings I've got from
Spurs very much.
If you're in the service to allof your heart centered, You are
going to be supported becausethe old vibrations of service to
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self of fear are not going to besupported anymore.
So if you are dropping into yourheart in a state of complete
surrender, just give it all up.
You've got to give it all up.
And it's actually my firstinterview with you.
I told my story.
I had to come in.
intense pain and suffering on myknees to surrender.
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But when I did, I was giftedheaven on earth, you know,
complete bliss.
So a lot of us, it can take somuch of us to actually surrender
because we fight our own lightwithin.
And the light is the divinemasculine and feminine that's in
our hearts.
It's our true self.
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Their best friends are male andfemale inside us.
just waiting for us to, youknow, welcome them back in and
acknowledge them and go, that isthe male and female aspect of me
in there.
And I'm not ugly.
I'm not fearful.
I'm not unworthy.
I'm not, I'm not a sinner.
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I'm not, you know, there's allthese ugly words that we can
paint upon ourselves.
You know, I'm not good enough.
I'm not providing for my family.
I'm not a great provider.
I You know, it's just, you'vegot to step back from what's
immediately in your arena.
You know, this is only a verysmall window in our soul's
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evolution.
We've been here thousands oftimes.
This is their master life.
We're beginning an opportunityright now to ascend, to become
an ascendant master like JesusChrist when we leave and go to
the other side.
I mean, that is a big prize.
That's the gift of this life.
All you need to do is chooselove, to step into your heart
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and have faith, belief, and justthat knowing within that
everything is going to work out.
And people may say, well, that'sblind faith, but To me, there is
only one type of faith.
You either have faith or youdon't, you know?
It's either you have thatknowing inside or you don't.
And I know that is hard forpeople.
SPEAKER_01 (52:52):
No, I think it is very difficult for people.
But I think it's surrenderingand having faith.
I mean, it has to be the way.
It just feels right when you saythat.
But how do you reconcile thatand say, with, you know, and
maybe this is a good place tokind of give some last thoughts
(53:13):
as we wrap our discussion too,but, you know, the old saying
that God helps those who helpthemselves, right?
How do you reconcile thesurrender and have faith with
that?
SPEAKER_03 (53:23):
Okay, so Jesus said this to me several times, well,
even recently.
It is like, he said, told me,help those who are willing to
help themselves, right?
You've got to be willing to beopen to something better.
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If you want to sit in a state ofmisery, pain and suffering,
you're going to sit there untilyou figure out this is not the
only option for you.
There is several other optionsfor you.
You've got to you're going tosit there until you realize
SPEAKER_01 (54:02):
surrendering, surrendering and having faith is
helping yourself.
SPEAKER_03 (54:05):
Yes.
When you surrender and havefaith, you realize you have a
choice in the outcome.
Last weekend, I did the DivineMasculine, Divine Feminine
workshop, the secret union withJesus and Mary Magdalene.
As an extra gift at the end ofthat workshop, Jesus brought us
into the scene of the LastSupper.
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And it was so powerful.
So the whole group, we werebrought before Jesus into the
scene of the Last Supper.
And he blessed, he washedeveryone of the group.
He washed our feet and he gaveus all a gift.
And he said, you are bothservant and master.
So you are a servant of God, butyou're a master of your destiny.
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You're a master of your world.
And that is the big, that is theclinching deal for people to
understand.
You can relinquishresponsibility for everything in
your life.
to everything else around you.
But the reality is you have achoice.
You have control of what'saround you.
And at this moment in time, somepeople may say, do you know
(55:16):
what?
I don't have a job that pays mea corporate salary.
But what else can I do in myday-to-day activities to make to
make good, to make something, toeven walk out a smile, meeting
people, having a conversationwith people can change
somebody's life by just smilingat them walking down the street,
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by having a conversation, givingpeople time.
That's one thing a lot of us,when we walk out, people don't
give you the time of day thesedays.
They're in such a rush.
Just having somebody that givesyou time and has a conversation
with you There's so many otherways other than working in a
corporate job and bringing in amonthly or a weekly salary that
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you can make a difference tothis world.
Yes, it's nice to have thatsecurity, but really, you know,
that security, any soul on thisplanet in a corporate job
working for a big company, thatsecurity can be taken away
tomorrow like that.
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So who really is secure?
in any of those jobs, thesecurity and safety is within.
It has to be within your ownheart and your own faith and
trust that everything you needevery day will come for you and
will be provided for you.
But also there is ask and youshall receive.
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You need to ask Spirit for helpbecause this is another thing I
come across with clients.
I say, you know, have you askedfor assistance with this from
Spirit?
Well, no.
Well, you do need to ask becausewe have so much spiritual
helpers around us.
But there's this, you know, lawof free will.
They cannot intervene on our ownbehalves unless we place the
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request to spirit.
Then all of a sudden they'llrally the troops around us.
And this works like magic.
Every time I ask for help, itcomes in.
Sometimes not the way that Ithink I want it to come in, but
it always works out.
So we've got to be open to thepossibilities and potentialities
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of miracles in our life everyday.
So it's stepping outside thehuman, you know, being a square
peg that has to fit into asquare hole, you know, all the
time.
And everything has to be acertain way.
Why?
Why does it have to be a certainway?
Because when we do that, welimit our human experience.
We've got to be open tosomething more.
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And I would say to people aswell, one of your biggest
bouncers and healers at theminute is get out in nature.
You know, get out in nature, getinto the quiet.
This world is too noisy.
Humans are very noisy and it'svery hard to feel peace if
there's a lot of noise aroundyou.
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Whereas if you can go somewherewhere it's peaceful, and even if
that is putting on a set ofheadphones and listening to the
sound of waterfalls and birdssinging, at least it's bringing
you peace.
into a state it's bringing youinto your inner world rather
than you being completely hookedand tentacled in into an outside
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chaotic world you do not want tobe connected into that chaotic
world you can you want to be inyour own sacred sanctuary and
when you need to go out andinteract with that world around
us you will touch in when youneed to communicate with people
you need to but you decide howmuch any of that impacts here
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and here.
It's your choice.
Mary Magdalene said that to meat the beginning of this year.
You have a responsibility,Siobhan.
You can say no to any energythat's around you, irrespective
of how much light or how muchshadow it is.
You have a choice whether youaccept it or not.
So the light codes that's comingin at the minute, you have a
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choice where you want to acceptthe light and allow yourself to
be lifted up in the light orwhether you want to accept the
fear and shadow that's aroundyou and allow that to bring you
down and into a state ofdepression and heaviness.
That is it is a choice.
And that is not me beingflippant because I know it does
take people, you know, it's beenbrave to go.
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There is a choice here.
And any moment you feel in astate of panic, breathe, step
out in the garden and just go,right, what choices do I have
here?
Because people believe sometimesthey don't have a choice, but
there's always a choice.
SPEAKER_01 (59:49):
That's wonderful, Shobhan.
I think that might be a greatspot to wrap.
Is there any last words you'dlike to share with our audience?
I really appreciate everythingyou've shared so far.
SPEAKER_03 (01:00:00):
I'll share.
The biggest thing I wanted forpeople to take away as well is
the Please let there be no blamefor either the male or female in
society as to what is going onon the planet.
We've all been in those male andfemale body suits.
All are responsible equally.
(01:00:20):
We're all equal.
And that was another thing Jesussaid at the weekend.
We are all one.
We are all completely equal.
There is no hierarchy, he saidin spirit, you know, and it's
very much about.
We.
As male and female, we have towork together.
We are not here as competitionto each other.
(01:00:41):
We're here as complementaryaspects of spirit, both within
ourselves.
But if you can do the healingwork within your own self, it is
going to change everything inyour outside world because you
are going to be in a state ofsacred union within your own
self.
The world around you is going toreflect that state of harmony
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and union and peace within you.
So it's just letting peopleknow, you know, everything you
see outside of you is anillusion.
The realness is in here.
It is inside you.
So you have the power to createpeace or pain inside you.
(01:01:24):
And it is the choice.
And every day you need to makethat choice.
Be conscious of what choicesyou're making.
And a lot of times during theday, we are going to catch
ourselves out going into thatstate of fear or pain, but you
don't judge it.
You go, ah, I'm going to pullthat back in.
I'm going to rein it back in.
And it is like a muscle.
You're going to have to exerciseit until you get to a stage.
(01:01:47):
You're able to go to the gym.
You do your reps or everything.
And it's like clockwork.
You just do it.
You're like a machine.
So it does take practice and itdoes take work.
Nobody said the sensual processwas going to be easy.
But the biggest thing, actually,this is a very short window of
time.
And we've got to, this is themost challenging times.
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The word spirit of used is theysay at this most secret hour
upon the earth, humanity aremaking decisions now that is
affecting their entire souljourney of lifetimes, thousands
of lifetimes.
So this is the life, pleasechoose love rather than fear.
And it is a choice, you know,and I mean, That's why the
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program I put together, it isjust allowing you in the privacy
of your own home to go insideand do the work, you know, to go
inside and explore.
It's going on a journey ofexplore and excite because a lot
of people are also scared to goin with inside and look within.
I mean, why would you be scaredof the little you inside a
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little Christ, a child andlittle innocent inner child?
They need your attention.
They need your nurturing becausesome part of them along the way
weren't parented the way theywanted to be parented.
So you become your new parents.
You become that sacred divinemother and father to the
children within you.
And that's how you become oneagain and whole again.
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And then the world outside willreflect that.
You know, that is that's thepower you have.
That is the power you have.
That's
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wonderful.
Thank you so much, Shobhan.
It's always great to talk toyou.
If you want to hang on just asecond, I'd love to speak with
you a couple more minutes afterwe wrap.
But thank you so much forjoining the show.
It's always great to see you.
And thank you for all the goodwork that you're doing and for
helping people.
Thank you.
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