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May 28, 2025 51 mins

Siobhan again joins the show - this time to discuss her perspectives on Margaret Starbird's work and the "Search for the Holy Grail" episode.  The theme of restoring more feminine balance to society is a hot topic and seems to be triangulating often in various areas of my life.  So it only made since to have Siobhan join to share her perspective on Margaret's work.  Enjoy the show!

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SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
Hello and welcome to the show.
Today's show is part two withSiobhan McGuire.
We're getting her reaction tothe podcast that I did with
Margaret Starbird recently,where we talked about the search
for the Holy Grail.
and Mary Magdalene and Jesus andtheir relationship.
And I asked Siobhan to pleasetake a listen and to join me and

(00:46):
talk about her response to thisinterview and her thoughts.
So it's a fantastic interview.
We talk about Jesus and MaryMagdalene, the Ark of the
Covenant and the dawn of the newday.
We talk touch about the KnightsTemplar a little bit in their
role in building some of thecathedrals across Europe that

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Siobhan McGuire, welcome back tothe show.
Thank you so much for joiningus.
Um, Today's part two of ourconversation about the
importance to restore balancemore toward the feminine in our
society.
And specifically, we want to getyour reaction to the show that I

(02:33):
did with Margaret Starbird.

SPEAKER_01 (02:36):
Ashley, thanks for having me back again.
I mean, to be honest, there's somuch to say.
And I just want to start bysaying how much respect I have
for Margaret's work.
I mean, since you're...
since your interview with her, Iwent and bought her books
because I just had to, I had toknow more.

(02:57):
So I've got both her books hereand I know she's got a couple
more, but I just, so many thingsthat Margaret said triggered
memories of what jesus and marymichael have already channeled
through me so margaret is verymuch coming from me from very

(03:20):
much as the researcher as towhat is available in the
scriptures and then the secrettexts and she's gathered that
all so beautifully together inher books but you've got someone
like me who's a channel forspirit who's a channeling Now, I
channel the essence, as Gemmacan make very clear to people, I

(03:41):
channel the essence and thevibration of the souls of Jesus
and Mary Magdalene through.
So I'm not declaring in a pastlife that I was ever Jesus or
Mary Magdalene.
I'm just allowing myself to be avessel to allow my vibration to
connect in with the vibrationthat they want to channel

(04:01):
through me so they can sharewisdom and messages through me.
So I am basically a messenger.
for them to use my body as aconduit to bring those messages
through.
So just to be very clear at thebeginning of this, I don't know
scripture in a huge amount ofdetail.
So when Margaret started talkingabout some of the information in

(04:25):
her book, it was just, she'scoming from what has been
written in scripture and I'mcoming from what has come
through me as a channel fromdirectly from Jesus of Mary
Magdalene.
And it was like light bulbsgoing on.
It was like ping, ping, ping,connection, connection,
connection.
I was just, it was suchbeautiful reconfirming, you
know, confirming to me that theinformation I'm getting is, you

(04:49):
know, this is true.
It is right on point.
And this is the evidence to backit up.
So I just wanted to start by

SPEAKER_02 (04:58):
doing that.
Oh,

SPEAKER_01 (04:59):
no, it's so positive.
I would love to meet this lady.
I know she's I think she saidshe was 84, but just her
vibration is so strong andpowerful.
And I'd love it was sort ofthing I get on a plane to go and
speak to her because I justloved her energy and the work,
the piece of work that she'sdone during her life.

(05:20):
It's just incredible that she'sbrought all of this to the fore,
you know?

SPEAKER_02 (05:24):
I'll introduce you at least so you can maybe have a
conversation with her becauseI'm sure she would love talking
to you as well.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
no, I'd love it.
I mean, I just...
She's

SPEAKER_02 (05:32):
taken a lot of hits in her life.
I mean...

SPEAKER_01 (05:34):
Oh, absolutely.
I can only imagine.
I can only imagine.

SPEAKER_02 (05:37):
Yeah, she's such a kind, warm spirit, but you can
tell that she's...
you know, it's been difficultfor her to, to, to communicate
what she's learned and she's,people want to, people want to
trash her and they want to saythat it's, you know,
blasphemous, uh, what she'ssaying.
And, um,

SPEAKER_01 (05:57):
I get this all the time.
I mean, that, uh, you know, Ishould be burnt at the stake for
heresy, um, that, you know,people, you know, death threats
from people, you know what Imean, that I am carrying the
antichrist information.
Why do you think

SPEAKER_02 (06:13):
that is?
Why do you think

SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
people are so...
They're threatened.
They're scared of the truth.
People don't want to hear thetruth.
Because, do you know what, it ismuch easier as humans to go with
the flow, to not stand up andout, to become part of the
wallpaper, to fit in, Becausenumber one, what it is is a

(06:38):
reflection of lack of love forherself, okay?
So you're not willing to bebrave and strong and courageous
and step up and speak yourtruth.
You just want to play small andkeep up, as we would say here in
the UK and Ireland, keep up withthe Joneses.
You want to be loved to be partof the same as everybody else

(07:00):
rather than being the beautiful,unique soul that you come here
to be.
Now, all of us lightworkers onthe planet, Ever since the very
moment we have touched base intoour human body, we have been
attacked.
All of us have.
And I have been told only acouple of weeks ago while I was
in St Mary's Church inGlastonbury by Jesus.

(07:21):
He has said to me, the attacksare going to keep coming and
they're going to keep coming foras long as I'm in a human body.
He said they're going to keepcoming.
But I...
He has placed personally themark of God, the seal of God on
my bodies and fields and on myfamily.

(07:42):
And I have no fear.
I have no fear because I expectit now.
So it's like this is coming atus and it's going to come at us
because this is the duality ofthe world that we live in.
The light versus the shadow,fear versus love.
And, you know, we came here tobring love to this planet

(08:03):
because And there's other folkout there that don't want us to
succeed.
So and there's a lot of folk outthere as well, you know, that,
you know, let's say are in malebody suits that don't want to
pass the baton and hold the maleand female to hold the baton
together.
They don't want us to do thatbecause they go, well, I'm quite

(08:25):
happy standing in my glory, youknow, and it's all about power.
It is all about power.
It's

SPEAKER_02 (08:32):
fascinating to me that It's just fascinating to me
that people, and Margaret and Italked about this a little bit.
I mean, it just, it doesn't takeaway any of the power of Jesus
to have these conversations.
In fact, it makes him evengreater in my opinion, in my
feel, in my heart.
I can feel it because he's, youknow, Jesus said the power of

(08:55):
God is within us.
So why would we, want to

SPEAKER_01 (09:01):
ignore these realities.
But to deny the fact that thisdenial of the feminine aspect is
denial of part of ourselves,because every single one of us
has the male and female withinus, and it's father-mother God.
In order for there to be acreator aspect, there has to be

(09:22):
a feminine.

SPEAKER_03 (09:23):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (09:23):
There has to be a feminine to be the creator.
So those of us that are in thefemale bodysuit at the minute,
we birth God through our Godselves because we're all made in
the image and likeness of God.
We're all Christed beings whenwe move with the will of God,
when we choose love.

(09:45):
Because that love is the aspectof God within us.
It is the Christed element ofus.
Now we can also Every one of ushas the ability to bring in that
Antichrist energy as well.
So that is the fear energy.
So the fear energy is theAntichrist energy.
The love energy is the Christenergy.
Now, let's just say theAntichrist is not one being.

(10:09):
And the Christ is not just onebeing either.
It is, we are it.
The Christ is within and theAntichrist is within all light
versus shadow.
So when people, you know, aretalking about, you know, the
power of the beast and all this,well, the beast is actually in
you as well.

(10:31):
So let us not look too muchoutside ourselves to judge, you
know, until we make peace andtame that beast within.
So this is the balance that hasto happen on the planet.
We're we take the male aspect ofourselves, that logical egoic
self, and we allow it to merge.

(10:52):
So it's the left brain and theright brain, the logical versus
the emotional, allow them tocome together as complementary
aspects of each other, to mergetogether, to hold hands together
and walk home together as one,unite together as one.

(11:13):
Because we can't do itourselves.
You cannot ascend at the end ofthis incarnation unless you have
made peace with this.
Unless you have brought thatbalance of male and female back
in to be able to return home tofather, mother, God.
The dual aspect.

(11:34):
Because everything in creationhas the dual aspect.
It has to in order to create.
There has to be the equalopposites to come together in
secret union, not secretmarriage, to create.
So to me, it's such a beautifulmessage.
And Jesus had such huge respectfor the feminine.

(11:55):
And let me just tell you astory, Ashley, of something that
happened over Easter.
So I made my way to Samaria'schurch in Glastonbury over
Easter weekend.
And I was sitting in the churchthere and the vibration of
Jesus, Mary, Mary Magdalene,Mother Mary's vibration.
It's just huge.
When I walk into that church,actually, I just the energy just

(12:17):
makes me want to cry.
I'm just I'm not sobbing, butthe tears just pour out of me.
The love in my heart is justmonumental because they're
there.
Every time I go there, I letthem know and they go, welcome
back, child, you know, and Iwalk in there and.
It was so interesting because ofsuch a beautiful priest.

(12:38):
And I really have such respectfor this priest that runs, you
know, runs that whole communitythere.
And I was seven hours in thechurch on the Saturday.
And you go, gosh, you know, butwhen I connect into spurt, time
and space don't exist.
It was only I was there fourhours and realized, wow, you

(12:58):
know, I probably should go andget some food after a three hour
drive there.
I went and got some food and Icame back at nine o'clock for
the Easter vigil, the lightingof the Paschal fire outside the
church and that.
And it was so amazing becausethe priest came in and once, you
know, the candle, the lightswere re-lit again after the
death of Christ in the church,the lights were all back on.

(13:18):
He started his sermon.
He started talking about theimportance of the feminine
within the church.
And he started talking about ifwomen, Thank goodness for Mary
Magdalene.
Thank goodness for all the womenwho attended Jesus because
nobody wanted to believe herthat the Christ had risen.

(13:41):
So, but thank God that they werethere.
They were so loyal to Jesus.
They did not betray Jesus.
It was the male apostles thatbetrayed Jesus.
The women were so loyal.
They never left his side.
They were there at thecrucifixion.
They were there.
They attended his body.
You know, they were, you know,Mary Magdalene was the first to

(14:02):
be there for him.
So we were the loyal subjects,let's say, in the female bodies
who never betrayed him.
And Jesus had such a love forthe feminine.
And when I channel MaryMagdalene through, I mean,
Jesus, as I said before to you,he calls her my beloved and she

(14:25):
uses the same words, Jesus,Yeshua.
And he prefers Yeshua, by theway.
Yeshua, my beloved.
You know, so they were in secretunion together.
There was the secret marriage.
And this is everything theychanneled through me.
And they have stepped in.

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Into me, Jesus has stepped in onmy left.
Mary Magdalene has stepped intome on the right.
And they came together in secretunion within my body together.
And they said, we wanted tobring your masculine and
feminine within you into uniontogether.

(15:05):
So this is what we need to alldo.
It is bringing the feminine andthe masculine together within us
back home together.
where we belong in the state ofoneness, wholeness,
completeness.
Otherwise, we're not complete.
You can't ascend at the end ofthis life back up to heaven
unless you are complete.

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And to be in a state ofcompleteness, you have to have
the masculine and feminine insecret union together, in
complete balance.
And there are people walkingaround the planet that have
reached that themselves.
They have been on their journeyso many times and they literally
have just that knowing insidethem and they've already done
it, you know?
But there is huge resistance onthe planet to this because this

(15:53):
is the completion of the timewhere the patriarchy they're
losing their power.
And it's all about the power forthe male.
It's all about the power overothers, the control over others.
But because they don't want toallow the feminine to bring up

(16:16):
and come into balance again.
And it's happening whether theylike it or not.
And talking about somethingreally powerful that Mary said,
Or sorry, Margaret said shetalked about the number for
Jesus being 888.

(16:36):
And, you know, she talked about,you know, you know, his name
when it's spelled in Greekalphabet and that he was known
as the dawn of the new day.
Now, on the 8th of August 2024,which was the last year, the 8th
of August.
you had the numerology that daywas 8, 8, 8.

(17:00):
Now, I've written about this onmy blog post, but I had a
massive vision in front ofseveral hundred people.
It was a vision on the Hill ofTar, which is one of the most
secret sites in Ireland.
It was where the kings and thequeens of Ireland, you know,
were crowned.
And basically, it's the seat ofthe throne of Ireland.

(17:23):
And on top of there, I was showna huge visual of a chessboard.
A game was being played out.
There was the shadow as the darkpieces on one side, the light as
the white pieces on the other,and they were playing this game.
And the light moved out first,their queen, and the shadow

(17:45):
moved their queen out.
And then the light startedmoving upon out and the shadow
moved upon it.
But then immediately, They wentto make an illegal move and
remove, skip a step and step inand do several moves together.
The Lords of Comer came rightdown on that board and they
said, game over.
We're no longer allowing thisbehavior.

(18:07):
There are rules of thisuniverse.
So we're now literally, theycame down and said, game over
and declared that the light hadwon.
Okay.
So this is the eighth, eighth,eighth, right?
So after that, when theydeclared it was won, The shadow
aspects on the board parted wayand this little boy walks
through the crowd and he'sholding this huge script.

(18:30):
He walks in and he puts it downin the middle of the board.
And I heard this is the oldcontract for humanity that we
have signed that is currently inplay where we chose to fall from
a state of grace to experiencethe full spectrum of emotions.
OK, to move as far away from herGod selves as possible in order

(18:56):
to realize we want to come backhome again.
OK, so he placed that currentcontract in the middle of the
board and a fire was lit on theHill of Tarot.
And then immediately directly infront of me, I saw this huge
griffin flying in.
So that's half eagle, half lion.
In its talons, it was holdingthis huge golden chest.

(19:19):
And I heard, this is the Ark ofthe Covenant.
It contains the new contract forheaven on earth.
And it came down right in themiddle of the board.
And I was a tree on this board.
And I had a key on my branch.
And I literally came down and Iput the key into the lock.
Now, I wasn't allowed to openit.
Only the Buddha boy who wasenlightened and pure of heart

(19:41):
was allowed to open up thechest.
But everything went silent.
And I was told to be continued.
Let us see.
What decision humanity is goingto make?
Are they going to burn the oldcurrent contract where we've
fallen from grace and allow thenew contract to be revealed?
Or are they going to keepholding on to the old?

(20:03):
So what is the Ark of theCovenant, the 888?
As Margaret said, the 888, thedawn of the new day.
So the 8th of the 8th of the 8thlast year was the potentiality
was offered to humanity for thedawn of the new day, which is

(20:25):
the Christ vibration.
You know, and it was when shesaid that, it just was just like
click, click, click, click withme.
Oh my goodness, it makes sense.
Because the Ark of the Covenant,I was told, is many things.
And when I posted this on myblog post, I then had...
One of my subscribers sent me anarticle in the early, I think it

(20:49):
was the late 1800s or early1900s, a group of Israelis had
come to the Hill of Tara inIreland and they started digging
up in the secret site of theHill of Tara looking for the Ark
of the Covenant.
How crazy is that?

SPEAKER_03 (21:07):
So I

SPEAKER_01 (21:07):
didn't know about this, but this is information
that was forthcoming.
But so there's, this is anincredibly secret site.
Now, obviously it's not, it'snot, I was told it's not
physically there, but it's heldin an etheric retreat above the
Hill of Tara.
So the Ark of the Covenant, Iwas told, is many things.
It is the Christ.

(21:29):
It is.
And when she said the 888, Ithought, that's it.
You know, Jesus is the Christ.
He holds everything.
He's the dawn of the new day,the new contract for humanity to
choose love over fear, to allowus to open up the gates of the
Garden of Eden again, heaven onearth to be returned.

(21:52):
So that opportunity, thatpotentiality was offered on that
date.
However, humanity didn't choosethat.
So that's why I've got to becareful what I say now because I
don't want to get toocontroversial, but...
It's

SPEAKER_02 (22:12):
okay.

SPEAKER_01 (22:14):
Okay.
So currently this year, we havestepped back instead of moving
forward.
We were supposed to choosesomething different at the end
of last year, let's say.
Humanity was meant to make adifferent choice and they didn't
choose wisely.
So as a result of not making awise choice, a wise decision,

(22:38):
then there has to be anacceleration of other energies
in order to force us to makeanother right choice.
And that is why the beginning ofthis year, we have felt the
intensity of 2025, really thishuge acceleration of energies.
And it's, as I talked about inmy May update, we even see more

(23:01):
now the huge divide the hugeduality, the separation, a huge
separation now we can see.
Those choosing fear, thosechoosing love, those choosing
service to self, those choosingservice to all, those choosing
to step off the wheel of karmaand ascend in this lifetime, and

(23:22):
those that are going to have tocome back again, rebirth again
in a physical body, It won't beon this planet, though.
I can tell you that now I'vebeen told that very clearly on
another lower dimensional planetto learn the lesson all over
again.
So it's all about choice.
And Jesus said this.
It's all about choice.

(23:43):
So we're seeing the greatseparation, the great divide,
the great duality.
So when Margaret said that inher piece to you, it just it
just all it's all these littlepieces of the jigs are all just
starting to come in and create.
Let us see the bigger picture.
I don't

SPEAKER_02 (24:03):
know if you know Guy.
Are you familiar with Guy StevenNeedler's work?

SPEAKER_03 (24:10):
No,

SPEAKER_02 (24:11):
I'm not.
I'll update you.
I've interviewed him severaltimes on the show.
He's a frequent guest, and hewas just on again recently.
it just got published a coupleof days ago.
Um, you might want to take alisten to that because he
basically says the exact samething that you just said that
we, our mass Ascension effortshave stalled.

(24:34):
Um, and that we, we, we choseunwisely.
Uh, I don't, that doesn't, hedidn't put a judgment on it, but
I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, itdoesn't wear my words, but, um,
and, uh, It's, you know, my, my,I guess my question for you is
how do we help?

(24:58):
What do we need to do anything?
Like, how do we help society do?
How do we do our part to helpsociety make the right choice?
Because I don't want to, I don'twant to.
be here in this world wherewe've made the wrong choice.
I wanna be here for theascension and for the dawn of
the new day, as you say, right?
So-

SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
Yeah, and one of the biggest challenges that I was
facing, and I really had to gointo deep meditation and channel
Jesus for this.
And he said to me, and this is abig lesson I've had to learn as
a healer for the last 24 yearsand being in service to other
people, Siobhan, this is notyour responsibility.

(25:41):
Last September, or sorry, it waslast August, it was last
September when I was in Dublinin the Pert Clare's church
there.
And anybody, if you look at thepost I had there at the
beginning of this year, some ofthe messages that Jesus brought
through, and it was very muchabout, he said to me, I had to

(26:02):
surrender the responsibilitythat I felt for humanity as a
whole I had to let the gobecause it isn't he said to me
it is not your burden to carrychild you have done your work to
get to where you are to allowyou to be in the vibration that
you are but I had to work to getthere I had to do the work to

(26:26):
allow myself to become thevibration that I currently am
and others need to do the sameyou can't do it for another soul
He said, the most importantthing that you can do is be the
light that you are.
And another channeling that camethrough recently, and I only

(26:46):
posted it last week on, sorry,the last couple of days on
YouTube was a channeling fromthe Council of Light, a group of
highly evolved souls that camein.
And they said to me, as amessage for everybody, because
I'm only a messenger, themessage is always for everybody.
It's never just for me.
I'm just one of the all.

(27:07):
And they said, the more youshine your light, others will
see your light and want to beyour light.
So you shining your bright aslight and as brightly as you
can, you're doing your jobbecause other people are going
to feel that love, feel thatlight.

(27:27):
And you're going to have such animpact on all souls who walk in
your pathway.
They're going to see your lightand want to be that as well.
So that is the most simplestthing that we can do to allow
our love to be the new pandemicon the planet, to be that new

(27:47):
virus.
You know, it's a love virus.
It's

SPEAKER_02 (27:50):
beautiful, right?

SPEAKER_01 (27:51):
You know, allow that to, you know, touch everybody
and for everybody to be struckby that magic, you know, and
open their hearts because theysaid in that channeling, You
know, those that have chosen tocreate a black rose within their
own hearts, that is a choice.

(28:11):
But that black rose can soeasily be cleansed simply by
allowing the rain to wash thatdarkness away, to allow that
rose to open up fully, to allowthem to experience the true
scent of that rose, the truebeauty of that rose, because
that's within every one of us.
And that is our sacred hearts.
So Both Jesus and the Council ofLight have said to me, be the

(28:36):
light that you are.
That's all they're asking us tobe.
You know, you doing this work,me doing my work, we're just
spreading the light.
And that's what our job is todo.
We don't have to, you know, arestanding on our soapbox, you
know, and being preachers, let'ssay, rather than a teacher.

(28:57):
It's just you showing up everyday as the brightest light.
lightest version of you fullwith so much love in your heart
that's all we need to do it itreally is

SPEAKER_02 (29:09):
that's wonderful i um thank you for sharing that it
really resonates with me i thinkin what comes to my mind um as i
listen to you is patience um

SPEAKER_01 (29:21):
oh my goodness thank you for saying that because
that's exactly what jesus saidin the channel he said We have
already won.
So what happened in the 888event?
What happened?
The declaration of victory.
The lords of karma who overseejustice on this planet, they

(29:43):
came down onto the board ofkarma for humanity and said they
declared victory.
The light has already won.
So what is happening now areHuman selves in lower
dimensional reality, we'replaying catch up.
So we're now rising up to meetour future selves who are

(30:07):
already one.
The light is already one.
So Jesus said, I ask you to lookthrough a lens, a lens of
patience, because it's going tobe a couple of years in human
terms before we see the victory.
but it's already happened.
We already won.
And I only talked about this onthe 1st of May.

(30:29):
I shared that whole message.
If we can move forward from thismoment in time in the knowing
the light has already won,that's a game changer.
That changes everything.
So we're walking around, we getup in the morning, irrespective
of what we're seeing just in thecurrent reality, we know victory
has already happened.

(30:50):
Now, when I channeled St.
Francis's of Assisi back inOctober.
And I also channeled St.
Catherine's Siena when I was inSiena and Assisi as well.
Both of those souls said to me,there will be peace on earth by
the end of 2029.
And every part of me knows that.
So, you know, this is May, 2025.

(31:13):
Look at the acceleration oftimelines.
And the reason why it's sobrilliant to know the The
acceleration is such a positivemessage.
That means our vibration andearth vibration is increasing.
We're rising, we're ascending.
So everything's getting faster,it's speeding up.

(31:33):
So like that, it's going to beend of 2029 and there will be
peace.
There will be, you know, thosethat are choosing not to, to
have that reality of peace, oflove, and want to choose fear
and war and lack, they will bemoving to, and this is what I

(31:58):
was shown, and this was a bigpiece of my Heal the Adam and
Eve Within masterclass seriesthat I just posted online, was I
was taken to new earth.
The masculine and feminine, whenI was going through that, we
were taken to a new reality, anew dimension.

(32:19):
So what is going to happen isbasically those that are
choosing love versus fear,service to all rather than
service to self, we are justgoing to wake up one morning and
that's our reality is going tobe our Eden, our eternal heaven
on earth.
Those that are choosing war,power, control, games, they're

(32:40):
going to wake up and still be inthe old reality.
And that it's, it's not as ifthere's going to be, the sky is
falling and there has to be anannihilation of this planet
because that's not, that's notour destiny this time.
Humanity is destined to ascend.
This planet is destined toascend, but it is all the

(33:03):
choice.
Every single soul on this planethas been offered the choice of,
Do you want to go to New Earth?
Do you want to set thislifetime?
But a lot of people and Jesussaid an awful lot of people are
still choosing fear over love,selfishness and greed versus,
you know, looking after the all.

SPEAKER_03 (33:24):
Mm

SPEAKER_01 (33:27):
hmm.
So it all clicks into place.
So I'm so.
Honestly, I'm so appreciativefor Margaret.
There's so many things she saidas well when when she was
talking about the secretmarriage between Jesus and Mary
Magdalene.
And she was talking, you know,her book about, you know, Mary
and the alabaster jar.
And because when Mary comes in,she came in several times and

(33:52):
she's anointed me.
She's holding this jar and sheanoints me with what is in her
jar.
And she anoints my chakras withthat.
So And it just rings so true tome, you know, what what Margaret
has written about in her books.

(34:12):
It's like I have physicallyexperienced that experience in
the physical dimension on avibrational level.
Those true and Mary Magdalene,when she talks about, you know,
Mary Magdalene, you know, themessages that Mary Magdalene,
you know, went to France, thesouth of France when I was in
Provence.
at Mary Magdalene's grotto ather retreat in the south of

(34:36):
France there.
And I mean, I channeled throughand it's on my blog post, the
channeling I got from MaryMagdalene.
And it's everything thatMargaret has said is what Mary
Magdalene has said to me.
And I was completely unaware ofMargaret's books before all of
this.
So it just, Mary Magdalene didsurvive.

(34:59):
She did go to France.
They, you know, all the Marys,the three Marys went to France
and, you know, Mary Magdalenehad a child called Sarah and she
is of the royal blood, the houseof David, you know, and that was
Jesus' child.
So Mary Magdalene shared all ofthat with me, you know, and, you

(35:23):
know, it's just so powerful toget that confirmation of, what I
channeled through myself, what Iwas personally told by spirit.
You know, so it's incredible.
You

SPEAKER_02 (35:36):
mentioned the three Marys.
Who's the third Mary?

SPEAKER_01 (35:39):
Sorry, well, Martha, let's say, but it was Mary.
Because when I was in Marseille,we had this huge cathedral in
Marseille in France as well thatI visited when I was in
Provence.
And I was told by...
Mary Magdalene to go therebecause she said Mother Mary's
vibration is very, very strongthere.
And I went into that church andthere is, and this is another

(36:04):
place for you where you're goingto travel to actually on your
bucket list, to-do list.
But when you go to Provence, Imean, it's just incredible.
And there's the whole history ofthe Cathars, which were like the
Essene group of family, youknow, the families that
supported Mary Magdalene.
And while she was in France.
So Mother Mary, there's a statueof Mother Mary in the cathedral

(36:29):
in Marseille.
And it is so lifelike.
When I walked in there again, Ijust the tears started coming.
I could feel her vibration.
And it looked it just lookedlike an alive person there.
And her statue surrounded bymagenta, these roses.
And I got locked in thecathedral in Marseille when she

(36:50):
was channeling through me.
I was in another reality.
Now, the gentleman who looksafter the cathedral told me that
he had rang the bell severaltimes, told everybody he was
locking up the cathedral.
But I mean, I never heard it.
I was somewhere else.
But I got locked in thecathedral in Marseille.
And I

SPEAKER_03 (37:10):
thought

SPEAKER_01 (37:10):
my mum, when Mother Mary came in, my mother came in
as well, who passed a couple ofyears earlier.
And my mother was completedevotee.
to Mother Mary.
So she came in with a hugemessage for me.
So, yeah, so I thought, am Igoing to have to stay the night
in the cathedral, this cathedralin Marseille?

(37:32):
But I had no problem.
I would not have had a problemif I had to stay there all night
because the vibration was sobeautiful.
But at the end, the guy wasstill, the guy was locking up
the Archer gates when I suddenlycame to and realized, oh,
There's nobody else here.
And Ben had to go around all thedoors knocking and going, oh,

(37:52):
I'm actually locked in thecathedral in Marseille for the
night.
But I banged and shouted acouple of times.
And then I heard this Frenchman, a very irate French man
with a large set of keysjangling.
And he gave me quite a tally.
No.
So he did.
And that he had nearly locked mein the church.
But to be honest, I would nothave had a problem.
spending the night in thatcathedral if I had to in some

(38:13):
ways it's sort of part of mealways thinks what if I would
have spent the night whatadventures would have I had in
the church that night you knowbut they there's um yeah because
Mary's the Mother Mary's alsoconnected to uh you know La Mer
the sea so there's huge um Whenshe talked about Sarah and the

(38:35):
festival, you know, the way thestatue of St.
Sarah is carried down to the seaas well.
Just all of it.
Just actually, when you go toProvence.
I felt so at home there.
And Mary Magdalene said to me,the reason you feel so at home
here, Siobhan, is because youremember you're part of the
family of souls that were here,you know, and you've such.

(38:56):
memories of lifetimes there.
She said some very easy livesand some incredibly challenging
and painful lives as well.
But it felt like home to me,actually, Provence.
I'm

SPEAKER_02 (39:10):
interested because I've had that feeling, what I
think is a similar feeling towhat you're describing.
I've only had that happen to mereally one time, and that was at
Notre Dame.
In Paris.

SPEAKER_01 (39:26):
Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_02 (39:27):
I was...
It's still...
I can't even describe thefeeling, really.
I mean, I think you understandit.
I mean, for our listeners, I wasjust totally overcome.
I was in awe.
Tears were streaming down myface.
It wasn't sobbing, like crying,upset.

(39:48):
It was just the most powerfulemotional experience that I've
ever...
that I've ever experienced.
And I want to go back.
I want to take my son to go toNotre Dame.
And now I want to go to Provencebecause, I mean,

SPEAKER_01 (40:05):
any place where I can feel that feeling, right?
Oh, yeah.
But Notre Dame, so just having alook at Notre Dame.
I remember when I was there, itwas probably 2005 I went to
Notre Dame.
And I remember as soon as Iwalked in there, Again,
immediately the tears startedcoming and the the emotion in

(40:28):
the heart is just it's fast.
And so what is happening inNotre Dame is a lot of people go
in and they offload theirburdens because a lot of it's
such a special place.
And the fire that took placethen years later in Notre Dame,
that was.

(40:49):
that says okay that was asacrifice that was made of that
building in order to purge thewrongs of the organization of
the Catholic Church so that wasit was a sacrifice let's say
that was made of that buildingbecause that building was all to

(41:09):
me it was all about sacrifice ittook on the burdens of everybody
it was like this secret heartwithin France that just leave
all your burdens, just hand itover and leave it here.
Because, and again, it made anultimate sacrifice for a huge
part of that building in orderto purge, I say, darkness that

(41:34):
was in the organization of theCatholic Church for a lot of
what took place within thechurch that was wrong, that
violated, you know, humanrights, basic human rights.
And that was again, that churchto me felt it was a sacrificial

(41:54):
church.
People went in and were able to,it took the burdens, your
burdens off your shoulders.
And it took the burden for thewhole Catholic church, the Roman
Catholic church as well.
And it purged that for it.
So to me, it's such a beautifulplace that it, you know, it took
that, it took that burden uponits own self.

(42:16):
to release it.
And buildings, people got tounderstand these churches were
all built and cathedrals wereall built on the original sites
of the goddess temples from pastdynasties.
So there's a huge energyvortexes there where there's a
number of energy lines and leylines that crisscross over

(42:39):
themselves.
And that is why these RomanCatholic church were built on
these original goddess sites.
goddess temple sites becausethere's an energy portal there.
So that portal in itself, it's ahuge portal of love.

SPEAKER_02 (42:56):
It's interesting because I just watched this
program recently about theKnights Templar on Gaia.
I'm not sure if you're familiarwith Gaia.
Yes, yes I am.
And they were talking about theKnights Templar were were the
builders of most of thesecathedrals.

(43:18):
Um, and they were much moreGnostic in their beliefs, um,
and much more balanced with thefeminine, um, dimension than
were the, the Roman Catholics.
Like they, they played alongnicely.
They, you know, as I watchedthis whole series, they play
along nicely because they kindof had to, and it was one of
those keep your friends closeand your enemies closer.

(43:40):
Um, but then, you know,obviously they, the fall of the
Knights Templar, the CatholicChurch, and King Felipe, I
believe, the two came togetherand kind of got rid of the
Knights Templar.
For those that are interested orlistening, you should check out
the program if you want to learnmore about it, but it's called

(44:01):
the Knights Templar, and it's onGaia.
But they built these cathedrals,which now it makes sense that
you're saying this, that they'rein the goddess sites, because
they were much more balancedwith the feminine dimension, and
than were the Catholics at thetime.

SPEAKER_01 (44:18):
Yeah.
I mean, I, the Knights Templars,when, I mean, I have worked with
a number of souls doing Akashicrecord clearings and a number of
men that come to me in previousincarnations, I see the mark of
the Knights Templar on them.
It's, it's a crest.
Okay.
And I see it.
So they, they were, what I havebeen told by spirit is they were

(44:43):
the army of God.
in their truest form on theplanet.
For, let's say, in a physicalarmy on the planet, you know,
because our God, Father, Mother,God is not a God of war.
But as a physical army on theplanet, that would have been the
army of God on the planet.

(45:04):
So, I mean, I would have, youknow, a number of men that are
coming for Akashic clearingsessions with me.
And it's one of the past livesthat always comes in.
is a Knights Templar because Isee the mark of the Knights
Templar.
So you've got to understandthese things.
They will have an energeticsymbol on them, still on their

(45:26):
soul, whatever, that's stillthere.
And also connected to that willhave been where they switched
off other lights in souls asthey took life.
And that's why we have to removethese symbols because they're of
the physical world in order tofree that soul of the karma of
having killed others.

(45:48):
And every single soul on thisplanet, we have, apart from some
of the very new souls cominginto the planet in baby suits at
the minute, they are very pure.
They haven't taken life.
They don't, they're not comingin with the karma.
Okay.
But we're We're still holding onto the karma and all those
lifetimes where we did takelives, you know, and we've all

(46:10):
done it, you know.
So, again, there's no judgmentfor everyone.
It was part of that experience.
And this is what we've got tounderstand.
This is all one big humanexperience in order to help
humanity evolve, because everytime we have come here, our
higher self, has kept fadingback the information of our

(46:30):
experience, our humanexperience, back to source.
So source is constantly learningand evolving as we're learning
and evolving.
And the choice in this life,this now moment, as Jesus calls
it, at this most sacred hourupon the planet, humanity is

(46:51):
evolving, whether we like it ornot.
It's already happened.
It's all happened already.
So when we see the players thatare playing out on the stage at
this moment in time, whatthey're just doing is showing us
all the old debris that justneeds to be swept up and cleaned

(47:14):
up and tidied up.
We need to make peace with itbecause it all has to be
exposed.
It can't be hidden anymore.
And let's, I think everybody'sseen We're seeing exactly who
every soul is now.
No one can hide anymore.
Everybody's revealing themselvesbecause the light, the
illumination, the greatillumination at the minute, no
one or nothing can hide.

(47:35):
So everything is coming up to becleared.
Everything is rising up to thesurface.
The truth is being revealed.
The great time of revelations isthis moment in time.
This secret hour upon the planetis the time of great revelation.
So everything's being revealed.
in order that we can heal it.
We can make our peace with itand we can let it go.

(47:57):
We can forgive it and we have toforgive it, make our peace with
it, and then it's done.
So all these players, let's sayshadow aspects of certain souls
that are running on the planet,they're just serving us all.
They're serving humanity becausethey're helping us dredge up all
the old, bring it to thesurface.
We go, oh, we don't want tochoose that anymore, do we?

(48:18):
Right, let's sort that out, makeour peace, clean it up and be
done with it.
So everybody has a role.
Every situation that's going onin the minute of the planet has
a role.
As long as we just remember,victory is already with us, you
know, and then everythingbecomes easier.
We just see this as, oh, that'sjust happening because of that.

(48:38):
That's happening because ofthat.
We just see it as one bigcleanse.
We have to cleanse it all tobring back the balance of the
male and female, you know.

SPEAKER_02 (48:46):
I think that's a great, that's a great place for
us to kind of wrap up.
I want to Thank you again forjoining.
Is there anything kind of lastwords you'd like to share about
Margaret's work or anything thatwe didn't get to that you really
want to address before we wrap?

SPEAKER_01 (49:02):
I just want to say to her, I admire her bravery.
I admire her honesty.
And I'm so glad a woman broughtthis work to the fore.
You know, and it shows you howbrave we in female body suits in
this lifetime have had to be inorder to restore this balance.

(49:27):
And I just want to say thank youto her as a soul for I know how
challenging this journey can be.
But she all already knows thatshe's so protected and safe
anyway.
But yeah, I just want to saythank you to her and more of her
work needs to be revealed.
So people need to buy her booksagain that have been around for

(49:49):
quite some time.
So everybody just go and buyMargaret Starbird's books,
please.

SPEAKER_02 (49:55):
That's great.
Thank you, Siobhan McGuire.
Please stick around.
I'm going to wrap the show here,but thank you so much for your
time and your grace for joiningus.

SPEAKER_01 (50:06):
Thank you, Ashley.
Take care.

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