May 7, 2025 • 26 mins
In this episode of Ask Me Anything, spiritual medium and psychotherapist Kelly White takes us on a transformative journey into the Destiny Card System—an ancient practice that links birthdates to the 52 playing cards for spiritual insight and personal growth. Kelly shares how a head injury led her to discover this powerful system and how it has since changed her life.
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Whether you're just beginning your spiritual journey or are deep into self-discovery, this episode offers grounded wisdom and practical tools.
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What You'll Learn:
- The meaning behind the four suits and their seasonal significance
- The unique personality traits and life lessons of each card
- How your Destiny Card can reveal your soul’s path
Whether you're just beginning your spiritual journey or are deep into self-discovery, this episode offers grounded wisdom and practical tools.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Hut Medium.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to Ask Me Anything, a beacon of spiritual exploration
hosted by celebrated mediums Kelly White. From the mysteries of
astrological aspects to the depths of personal growth, no topic
is off limits. Your questions light the path as we
navigate the intricacies of our spiritual existence together. So are
you ready to delve deeper?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hi, everybody, I am spiritual medium and psychotherapist and author
Kelly White, and I'm here with Ask Me Anything. Well,
we're definitely going to talk about the energy, but let's
talk about And I had to get really, you know,
understand the energy and try not to get to riled
up about it because there was so so much energy
(00:50):
that was so unsettling and I do like to feel unsettled.
But then once I kind of let go it just
went with the flow and chose to stay in a
hotel in la as opposed to with family, I felt
immediate relief. I'm serious, so and I suggest this for everybody.
(01:10):
So anyway, the next time I see everybody and my
if you haven't signed up for my newsletter, sign up
for a newsletter on my website Kelly White dot com
and you can see everything that's going on. But I
will be getting you guys, will be getting the may
Vedic astrology. So anyway, now I want to talk a
lot about the Destiny card system, which I think is fantastic,
(01:34):
and then I'll answer your questions. So I have been
working with the Destiny system since I had my head injury.
And what happened is I remember I was spending a
lot of time on the other side, learning as much
as I could from the akship records, and long story short,
my guides said to me, no, no, no, Now we're
(01:55):
going to send you. You're going to be working with
a new system that's gonna unlock things like that. And
I remember thinking, what are they talking about? I swear
to God. The next day my friend told me all
about the Destiny cards and I went what And I
got a chill, a giant chill up and down my body.
I said, this is it, This is it. So the
Destiny cards, they are an ancient legacy, if you will,
(02:18):
of Atlantis. And there was a man who was born
in eighteen forty four. Interesting enough, because we're going to
be going through this Neptune will be exactly where that
was in a clearly around that period of time, and
that's where all kinds of spirituality started up, about eighteen
(02:39):
forty four eighteen fifty, that period of time. And now
the same energy will be starting up with spirituality. I
find that kind of fascinating. But anyway, Richard Riches, his
name was on me O L N e Y. It's
an odd namely all mean Richmond, and he was born
in eighteen forty four. He was a nineteenth century astrologer
(03:03):
and he was a mathematician. Now fascinating is that. And
he found this intricate divinatory system and he called it
the myst He wrote a book on it and it
was called the Mystic test Book. And in fact I
have his a lot of his books. I mean they've
been republished. And this is kind of fascinating. I always
(03:25):
think this one's fascinating. This is called books Temple Lectures
of the Order of the Magi, and he discovered the
Order of the Magi. He founded it during his lifetime.
And it's got these really old fascinating I mean you
can't see him this way, but like they were printed
up from his speeches, his lectures that he would do.
(03:46):
It very really interesting and I love to learn all
about it, because I love to learn things. So but
what he believed, He pointed he was the self appointed
grand Master of the Order of the Magi, and in
eighteen ninety he released his book called Mystic Test Book
and that revealed this system. And then later in nineteen
(04:08):
forty seven, Edith Randall and Florence Campbell printed their book
called Sacred Symbols of the Ancients, and it was the
mystical significance of the fifty two playing cards and their
amating connection to individual birthdates. Now, remember I always say this,
we choose our birthdate before we incarnate. So it's good
(04:31):
to know about yourself. You will find that it's pretty extraordinary.
And this system that was developed literally was developed from
what I understand fifteen thousand years ago. So this is
a powerful system for prediction, but also for self understanding,
and understanding self is everything. It's the key to unlocking
(04:56):
our consciousness and raising our awareness. You know, it just
is You might learn about yourself and go, oh my gosh,
that fits. That's that's exactly how I feel. I've been
this way forever, you know. So it's really interesting because
you can learn about your past in this system past
lifetimes come up, you can learn about your present, and
(05:18):
you can certainly learn about your future with this. And
although it's a complex system, you can get a lot
of value from just learning the system, and it's fascinating.
I think it's kind of fascinating. So let me tell
you a little bit about about this. He there are
fifty two cards and fifty two weeks, right, fifty two
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cards and fifty two cards in a week. So a
deck of fifty two playing cards symbolizes the fifty two
weeks of the year. So each card is tied to
a specific week and aligns the system with the natural
order of the calendar and the cyclical nature of time.
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And now we look at suits and seasons, the four suits.
There's the hearts, the clubs, the diamonds, the spades, and
they correspond to the four seasons, and each embodies unique
energies and qualities. So hearts represent spring and we'll talk
(06:22):
about that, Clubs represent summer, diamonds represent autumn, and spades
represent winter. And then each card has a numerical value,
so we'll talk about that. And then there are planetary associations.
Even astrologies are a big part of this because some
people will say, but Kelly, I'm a six of diamonds
(06:44):
and I was born in October. And somebody else might say, well,
I'm a six of diamonds and I was born in April,
and so there'd be difference. There's difference in because then
you'd add the astrology to it too, so it gives
you a little deeper sense of every thing. So anyway,
it's a very interesting system and I love to use
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this system and brings out a lot of insights into people.
I think. I think it's a fascinating and I think
my guides were right on by showing me this system
years and years ago. I've been doing this for years.
So let's see. There are a lot of other people
that do this system, and I will tell you one
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of them is Robert Lee Camp. He's got some wonderful
books out there. Robert Lee Camp. He started making this
system more popular probably in the eighties and nineties. He's
a really good teacher too. But there are a lot
of other ones. Sharon Jeffers. I love her work too,
Sharon Jeffers. She's got cards of destiny, lots of books
(07:48):
here with this, She's got lots of looks. I do
this wrong. Cards of Destiny, And I've got all the
books that everybody's ever written on this, and I think
they're important, you know. Actually, And there's some places that
say that this goes back twenty thousand years, which is
kind of interesting. But again, it's a really interesting system
(08:09):
of looking at your life. So let's see and each year,
let me see, here we go. So to understand the
Cards of destiny, let's start with hearts. Let's say you
hear me say you're an ace of hearts. If you
were born on December thirtieth, there's only one day, and Charlene,
I'm talking about you, December thirtieth would be an ace
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of hearts. But if you are a heart, if you
hear me say, you're a whatever it is, whatever number
it is, and your a heart. Hearts relate to the
emotional realm, so in art and beauty and love and
family and often sensuality, even with hearts. Hearts are all
(08:56):
about emotions. So whenever anybody comes in and i'm working
with them a mirror, whatever they are apart, you know
immediately they're here to deal with emotions immediately. And so
we'll talk about that now. Clubs, I'm a club. Clubs. Really,
James and I are both clubs. Shocker, these are three
(09:17):
at clubs. I'm a four clubs. I think that clubs
are the most psychic of the bunch. It's just my
personal opinion on that. But they're really psychic because they're
in the mental realm. So if you came in and
you were born as a club, you're going to education
is going to be important, communications, important, learning, teaching, mental
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the mental capacity, intelligence, intuition. That's a club. Clubs. They
always say, are you know, like young in spirit because
they they're going to learn and learn and learn. You know,
It's true. It's a constant learning. I have to constantly
like feed my brain to learn. And that's real club thing.
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So diamonds, if you are a diamond, diamonds are really
interesting because they relate to values. So what is something worth? Now,
if we go by the lower chakras for a second
and third chakra, they're going to be like money power
that kind of thing, and believe me, work with them all.
But when they get more seasoned and more conscious and
(10:28):
please God more you know, more spiritual, then they're often philanthropists.
They want to help the poor, they want to help
their value system changes. And there's like, if you hear
me talk about the seven of diamonds, seven of diamonds
are real interesting. It means because all sevens and we'll
(10:50):
go through that in a moment, all sevens are come
for a mystical or a spiritual experience. And seven of
diamonds we call this the million in air card. Doesn't
mean that you're going to be a millionaire or have
lots of money unless you do one thing. You have
to be spiritual. So that means you have to have
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faith and you have to be you know, mindful of things.
So diamonds, again, they can relate to values to work
to money. They want to create abundance through balancing spiritual
with material. That's the key. Like what's the key to
life for a diamond, that's the key. So then there
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are the spades. So whenever I see anybody, that's why
you'll hear me say, if you were born January first
to January thirteenth, that's king of spades all the way
down to acea spades. That's not easy. If you were
born during that time, it means you're an old, old
soul and that has to deal with spirituality, health, work, discipline, determination,
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and lifestyle. So a spade encompasses everything. So spades have
it harder. I would say, there are some other cards
that are really brutally hard, and there are some cards
that are easier. Again, you know, life at the time,
(12:20):
I don't think is easy for anybody, but everybody comes
to learn something. So let's say you are an ace,
and aces all are about the individual. Aces are every
once in a while, and Vickie, I'm talking to you,
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there will be an ACE that comes in with a
really great relationship or marriage. Often, aces not all the time,
depending on which the aces are. Acid diamonds. As I'm
talking to you, Vicki, acid diamonds are they have to
almost like work so hard in order to get the
(13:03):
perfect relationship. It's really interesting. But aces are all about independence,
like fierce independence, and they are all about new ideas,
you know, something new. So it's fun to work with
aces because you never know where they're going to go
and what they're going to learn. And it's kind of
fun if you are a two of anything. To clubs
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to twos often come in with fears, so fear, especially
to us bathes, Oh my goodness, a lot of fear
with that. But twos come into partner. It's really important
that they partner so there's cooperation, their relationship oriented and
couplehood is very important for it. Two. So if you
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are a three, if you hear me say three of something,
If you are three, automatically, I know you're creative. Automatically
you're artistic. And if you're not, if you say to me,
but Kelly, I'm not artistic at all. And also who
shut that down? Well? My father, I mean I couldn't.
I couldn't do art in more. Oh, okay, it got
shut down. So this happens all the time. So threes
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are really imaginative, and they also have a lot of anxiety.
So you always have to watch with a three, I
don't care three of anything. You have to watch that
you are actively doing more than one thing, okay, because
if you were just kind of shut down like this,
it will cause great anxiety if you're not out there creating.
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So then there are the fours. Whenever I see fours,
I have to laugh. I'm before fours are I'd say
pretty stable most of them. They're grounded, they're practical, and
they can also be very fixed and very scubbored, So
I think that fits. Yeah, check check check check check.
(14:48):
That works, so anyway. But fours, I mean often most
of the time fors are, in fact, I don't even
know if I've seen it unstable. For usually they're highly
they can be highly wound up and high really anxious,
depending on where they are in their life. So if
you are a five, I love to see five because
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fives are about adventure. They love to travel, they love
to speak their mind. They often have a lot of energy.
They can be impulsive, and they can be restless. And
again it depends on if you are a five of hearts,
then I would say, boy, you signed up for a
roller coaster of emotion. If you are a five of diamonds,
(15:31):
you've signed up often often for many relationships. I've had
so many five of diamonds with lots of relationships i've had.
I remember saying to somebody once, oh, five of diamonds,
how many times you've been married? And she looked at
me like she was done that. I asked the question
and she said five, And I know it. But also
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the thing about a five of diamonds, which is really
really amazing, and I love this five of diamonds always
step in the room with lots of angels, so I
think that's really new. I love that anyway. So fives
are restless, and they love to travel and they love
to learn, So fives are really cool. Sixes are all
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about balancing karma. So if somebody comes in and I
know there are six of doesn't matter what it is.
They're here to balance karma. It's like you sew what
you weep, what you leave. I mean you be weeping.
You sow what you reap, and some people are weeping
about that. So you have to really, you know, challenge
(16:37):
yourself if you are a six, to do really good
out in the world. And too often they're wildly creative,
and sometimes they're really great at great at different things,
you know, really smart. I love working with sixes. Now,
if you are a seven, sevens are about They're mystical,
they're spiritual. They can have lots of reflection, and that's
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the higher side of the nature of a seven comes
in with reflection and discerning. They can also, on the
lower side, can be very skeptical and very pessimistic, and
ultimately a seven is here to let go of all
negativity and find faith and faith and faith. It's all
(17:22):
about faith. So if you are an eight, eight is
about power, power, power and power. You know, every every
card has a positive and a negative, always within eight.
You want to watch your power if it's an eight
of hearts. It's funny. My mother was an eight of hearts.
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Her birthday was August thirty first, and she had a
tremendous amount of power in the emotional realm, which is
what hearts do. She was a therapist, a lot of power.
So you have to use your power wisely. And they
are often visionaries and they're high lead competent people that
eight eights because they bring in power. But the thing
(18:04):
with any eight, any eight, is you have to actually
use your power wisely. So it's like a test in
this lifetime. Are you going to screw up some of them? Do?
I've seen it, and I would like, I'm always so
amazed because I'm like, you know, you shouldn't go down
that road right well, you know, and often you'll find
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CEOs as eights, so you kind of go, Okay, are
you a good leader or are you not a good leader.
It's going to reflect on you in your future life
because as we're doing this life we're writing our future life.
I don't mean necessarily coming back on Earth. I don't
believe that, but many people will come back, you know, many,
(18:46):
most probably, So you kind of want to complete a cycle.
That's where I'm getting with that. So do good, no
matter what car you are card you are, just do
do really well in the world. Be good, be kind,
be nice. Anyway, if you come in as a nine
nines mean a card of completion, and in fact, you
know what I should do, Renee, And I'll finish this
(19:07):
in a second, Renee, would you put that up please?
But everybody take a picture of this. This is a
destiny card berth chart and if you could take a
picture of it and you can see the months are
up on top January I think it's the months up
on top and the days are down below on the side,
(19:27):
and you can find if you I can't, I'd have
to make it bigger. But if you guys can, just
you know, make a copy of this, take a picture
of it. And I know that Michelle's going to post
this on my Facebook and on my Instagram. But it's
a really great poster that will tell you what card
you are on. Okay, So get a picture of that.
(19:49):
Thank you, Renee. So if you are a nine, nine's
come to complete a soul cycle. So what does that mean?
So on the other side, choose why we're going to
come back. There's a theme, and this theme will have
run through any lifetimes. It's not like we get here
and this time my theme is. It's the same coming
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along the band. You know, it's like, what do you
need to work on now to you complete said theme?
And it could be the theme might be, you know,
overcoming anger, having patience, being kind, overcoming being abandoned. That
might be a big one. There are a lot of
(20:33):
reasons that we continue to come back with different things.
But when I see somebody's a nine, it means you're
completing a soul cycle. So it's like do it, do
it honorably, do it kindly, and complete it. No nonsense here.
Whenever I run into a nine, it has like nonsense.
I always think you're just screwing up, and I will
(20:55):
say it to that person, please, no more nonsense, just
do good here that you've got this opportunity. So also,
nines are very good, usually very good caregivers, and they're
usually very charitable. There are some of the best souls around.
So if you are a ten, so tens are kind
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of individualistic. Two they're very career oriented. They're very independent,
and they're very determined. And on the negative side, they
can be a little overbearing because they're they're you know,
they're powerhouses. But on a positive note, they're usually some
of the most creative people I know, actors, actresses, musicians,
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I mean, like real, real, big talents in that pool.
And then there's the jacks. Jacks are creative, wildly creative.
There's a big difference between a male jack and a
female jack. So the females tend to take on the
more of the long suffering on some level, or more
(22:01):
of the sacrifice is a better word, or more of
the you know, they are more compassionate. Not all the time.
It's just been my experience with the males. They they
can take on a kind of a playboy esque kind
of a place. So it's it all depends not always
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at all. This is not always at all. It's it
all depends on where they are in their in their maturity.
And that's the jack is all about, because it can
be very youthful, but it's got to be mature. It's
got to grow, and then they're the queens. The queens
offer service to humanity and often they sometimes they can
(22:43):
be very demanding once we get to ten. Uh well,
eight eight's also are demanding. Eights tens, queens and kings
can be very demanding. But a queen often comes in
and you'll hear me say, oh, it's a male, that's
a queen. Oh you think like a female, Yes I do.
Or you'll hear me say to a woman that's a king,
(23:04):
Oh you think like a male, you have a male brain,
Yes I do. You know, So that's kind of fun,
so service to humanity. As a queen, they can be
wildly intelligent, wildly creative and intuitive. And then they're the kings,
so kings again, if you come in as a king,
there's a lot of power there. You've got to be
(23:26):
mindful of the power of the weight you carry. And
they can be very arrogant depending on where they are
in their growth and maturity. So that's really important. And
then there's the joker, which is the December thirty first card,
and so this system doesn't read the card the joker
and I have once in every blue moon, somebody will
(23:50):
come to see me that's a December thirty first, and
when I have that in a session, I just go
straight to psychic ability or astrology and I kind of
combine them all of it because the joker is something
that it's like they didn't want to be seen in
this lifetime in any system. They're kind of like off
(24:10):
the chart in their own system. So it's writing their
own script, if you will. It's kind of fascinating. So
those are how I love to work with and I
love to use the system. I think it's a really
really fun system here I do. So let's see Maggie
Landas and your birthday is eleven twenty seven, so eleven
(24:32):
twenty seven. If we look at what I put up there,
eleven twenty seven is a six of Hearts And I
was just talking about six. Six is are about balance
and six, you know, likes everybody to get along. Six
of Hearts represents family emotions. Six of Hearts always has
(24:52):
a road on life because they're usually the ones that
take care of the family. And bless you anybody who's
the six of Hearts, it's a wonderful card. It makes
you very very bright and also emotionally present, So and
try not to get too stressed within six of hearts.
(25:14):
Often they're so concerned about the family or this dynamic
or that they get real stressed. So we try not
to get to anyway, But I am going to be
doing a book signing in Chicago. We had it planned
for May, but we've had to move it up, so
it might be it'll be a little further out, okay,
And everybody just remember that this is a fascinating time
(25:35):
in life. We're lucky to be here and we're going
to learn an awful lot about about ourselves. Okay, anyway, everybody,
so take care of my friends, and I'll look forward
to seeing you Monday night, and then in two weeks,
all right, and we're gonna be talking about chakras in
two weeks, all right. Take care of my friends, see
you later.
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Welcome to Ask Me Anything, a beacon of spiritual exploration
hosted by celebrated mediums Kelly White. From the mysteries of
astrological aspects to the depths of personal growth, no topic
is off limits. Your questions light the path as we
navigate the intricacies of our spiritual existence together. So are
you ready to delve deeper?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hi, everybody, I am spiritual medium and psychotherapist and author
Kelly White, and I'm here with Ask Me Anything. Well,
we're definitely going to talk about the energy, but let's
talk about And I had to get really, you know,
understand the energy and try not to get to riled
up about it because there was so so much energy
(00:50):
that was so unsettling and I do like to feel unsettled.
But then once I kind of let go it just
went with the flow and chose to stay in a
hotel in la as opposed to with family, I felt
immediate relief. I'm serious, so and I suggest this for everybody.
(01:10):
So anyway, the next time I see everybody and my
if you haven't signed up for my newsletter, sign up
for a newsletter on my website Kelly White dot com
and you can see everything that's going on. But I
will be getting you guys, will be getting the may
Vedic astrology. So anyway, now I want to talk a
lot about the Destiny card system, which I think is fantastic,
(01:34):
and then I'll answer your questions. So I have been
working with the Destiny system since I had my head injury.
And what happened is I remember I was spending a
lot of time on the other side, learning as much
as I could from the akship records, and long story short,
my guides said to me, no, no, no, Now we're
(01:55):
going to send you. You're going to be working with
a new system that's gonna unlock things like that. And
I remember thinking, what are they talking about? I swear
to God. The next day my friend told me all
about the Destiny cards and I went what And I
got a chill, a giant chill up and down my body.
I said, this is it, This is it. So the
Destiny cards, they are an ancient legacy, if you will,
(02:18):
of Atlantis. And there was a man who was born
in eighteen forty four. Interesting enough, because we're going to
be going through this Neptune will be exactly where that
was in a clearly around that period of time, and
that's where all kinds of spirituality started up, about eighteen
(02:39):
forty four eighteen fifty, that period of time. And now
the same energy will be starting up with spirituality. I
find that kind of fascinating. But anyway, Richard Riches, his
name was on me O L N e Y. It's
an odd namely all mean Richmond, and he was born
in eighteen forty four. He was a nineteenth century astrologer
(03:03):
and he was a mathematician. Now fascinating is that. And
he found this intricate divinatory system and he called it
the myst He wrote a book on it and it
was called the Mystic test Book. And in fact I
have his a lot of his books. I mean they've
been republished. And this is kind of fascinating. I always
(03:25):
think this one's fascinating. This is called books Temple Lectures
of the Order of the Magi, and he discovered the
Order of the Magi. He founded it during his lifetime.
And it's got these really old fascinating I mean you
can't see him this way, but like they were printed
up from his speeches, his lectures that he would do.
(03:46):
It very really interesting and I love to learn all
about it, because I love to learn things. So but
what he believed, He pointed he was the self appointed
grand Master of the Order of the Magi, and in
eighteen ninety he released his book called Mystic Test Book
and that revealed this system. And then later in nineteen
(04:08):
forty seven, Edith Randall and Florence Campbell printed their book
called Sacred Symbols of the Ancients, and it was the
mystical significance of the fifty two playing cards and their
amating connection to individual birthdates. Now, remember I always say this,
we choose our birthdate before we incarnate. So it's good
(04:31):
to know about yourself. You will find that it's pretty extraordinary.
And this system that was developed literally was developed from
what I understand fifteen thousand years ago. So this is
a powerful system for prediction, but also for self understanding,
and understanding self is everything. It's the key to unlocking
(04:56):
our consciousness and raising our awareness. You know, it just
is You might learn about yourself and go, oh my gosh,
that fits. That's that's exactly how I feel. I've been
this way forever, you know. So it's really interesting because
you can learn about your past in this system past
lifetimes come up, you can learn about your present, and
(05:18):
you can certainly learn about your future with this. And
although it's a complex system, you can get a lot
of value from just learning the system, and it's fascinating.
I think it's kind of fascinating. So let me tell
you a little bit about about this. He there are
fifty two cards and fifty two weeks, right, fifty two
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cards and fifty two cards in a week. So a
deck of fifty two playing cards symbolizes the fifty two
weeks of the year. So each card is tied to
a specific week and aligns the system with the natural
order of the calendar and the cyclical nature of time.
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And now we look at suits and seasons, the four suits.
There's the hearts, the clubs, the diamonds, the spades, and
they correspond to the four seasons, and each embodies unique
energies and qualities. So hearts represent spring and we'll talk
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about that, Clubs represent summer, diamonds represent autumn, and spades
represent winter. And then each card has a numerical value,
so we'll talk about that. And then there are planetary associations.
Even astrologies are a big part of this because some
people will say, but Kelly, I'm a six of diamonds
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and I was born in October. And somebody else might say, well,
I'm a six of diamonds and I was born in April,
and so there'd be difference. There's difference in because then
you'd add the astrology to it too, so it gives
you a little deeper sense of every thing. So anyway,
it's a very interesting system and I love to use
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this system and brings out a lot of insights into people.
I think. I think it's a fascinating and I think
my guides were right on by showing me this system
years and years ago. I've been doing this for years.
So let's see. There are a lot of other people
that do this system, and I will tell you one
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of them is Robert Lee Camp. He's got some wonderful
books out there. Robert Lee Camp. He started making this
system more popular probably in the eighties and nineties. He's
a really good teacher too. But there are a lot
of other ones. Sharon Jeffers. I love her work too,
Sharon Jeffers. She's got cards of destiny, lots of books
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here with this, She's got lots of looks. I do
this wrong. Cards of Destiny, And I've got all the
books that everybody's ever written on this, and I think
they're important, you know. Actually, And there's some places that
say that this goes back twenty thousand years, which is
kind of interesting. But again, it's a really interesting system
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of looking at your life. So let's see and each year,
let me see, here we go. So to understand the
Cards of destiny, let's start with hearts. Let's say you
hear me say you're an ace of hearts. If you
were born on December thirtieth, there's only one day, and Charlene,
I'm talking about you, December thirtieth would be an ace
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of hearts. But if you are a heart, if you
hear me say, you're a whatever it is, whatever number
it is, and your a heart. Hearts relate to the
emotional realm, so in art and beauty and love and
family and often sensuality, even with hearts. Hearts are all
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about emotions. So whenever anybody comes in and i'm working
with them a mirror, whatever they are apart, you know
immediately they're here to deal with emotions immediately. And so
we'll talk about that now. Clubs, I'm a club. Clubs. Really,
James and I are both clubs. Shocker, these are three
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at clubs. I'm a four clubs. I think that clubs
are the most psychic of the bunch. It's just my
personal opinion on that. But they're really psychic because they're
in the mental realm. So if you came in and
you were born as a club, you're going to education
is going to be important, communications, important, learning, teaching, mental
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the mental capacity, intelligence, intuition. That's a club. Clubs. They
always say, are you know, like young in spirit because
they they're going to learn and learn and learn. You know,
It's true. It's a constant learning. I have to constantly
like feed my brain to learn. And that's real club thing.
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So diamonds, if you are a diamond, diamonds are really
interesting because they relate to values. So what is something worth? Now,
if we go by the lower chakras for a second
and third chakra, they're going to be like money power
that kind of thing, and believe me, work with them all.
But when they get more seasoned and more conscious and
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please God more you know, more spiritual, then they're often philanthropists.
They want to help the poor, they want to help
their value system changes. And there's like, if you hear
me talk about the seven of diamonds, seven of diamonds
are real interesting. It means because all sevens and we'll
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go through that in a moment, all sevens are come
for a mystical or a spiritual experience. And seven of
diamonds we call this the million in air card. Doesn't
mean that you're going to be a millionaire or have
lots of money unless you do one thing. You have
to be spiritual. So that means you have to have
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faith and you have to be you know, mindful of things.
So diamonds, again, they can relate to values to work
to money. They want to create abundance through balancing spiritual
with material. That's the key. Like what's the key to
life for a diamond, that's the key. So then there
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are the spades. So whenever I see anybody, that's why
you'll hear me say, if you were born January first
to January thirteenth, that's king of spades all the way
down to acea spades. That's not easy. If you were
born during that time, it means you're an old, old
soul and that has to deal with spirituality, health, work, discipline, determination,
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and lifestyle. So a spade encompasses everything. So spades have
it harder. I would say, there are some other cards
that are really brutally hard, and there are some cards
that are easier. Again, you know, life at the time,
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I don't think is easy for anybody, but everybody comes
to learn something. So let's say you are an ace,
and aces all are about the individual. Aces are every
once in a while, and Vickie, I'm talking to you,
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there will be an ACE that comes in with a
really great relationship or marriage. Often, aces not all the time,
depending on which the aces are. Acid diamonds. As I'm
talking to you, Vicki, acid diamonds are they have to
almost like work so hard in order to get the
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perfect relationship. It's really interesting. But aces are all about independence,
like fierce independence, and they are all about new ideas,
you know, something new. So it's fun to work with
aces because you never know where they're going to go
and what they're going to learn. And it's kind of
fun if you are a two of anything. To clubs
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to twos often come in with fears, so fear, especially
to us bathes, Oh my goodness, a lot of fear
with that. But twos come into partner. It's really important
that they partner so there's cooperation, their relationship oriented and
couplehood is very important for it. Two. So if you
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are a three, if you hear me say three of something,
If you are three, automatically, I know you're creative. Automatically
you're artistic. And if you're not, if you say to me,
but Kelly, I'm not artistic at all. And also who
shut that down? Well? My father, I mean I couldn't.
I couldn't do art in more. Oh, okay, it got
shut down. So this happens all the time. So threes
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are really imaginative, and they also have a lot of anxiety.
So you always have to watch with a three, I
don't care three of anything. You have to watch that
you are actively doing more than one thing, okay, because
if you were just kind of shut down like this,
it will cause great anxiety if you're not out there creating.
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So then there are the fours. Whenever I see fours,
I have to laugh. I'm before fours are I'd say
pretty stable most of them. They're grounded, they're practical, and
they can also be very fixed and very scubbored, So
I think that fits. Yeah, check check check check check.
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That works, so anyway. But fours, I mean often most
of the time fors are, in fact, I don't even
know if I've seen it unstable. For usually they're highly
they can be highly wound up and high really anxious,
depending on where they are in their life. So if
you are a five, I love to see five because
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fives are about adventure. They love to travel, they love
to speak their mind. They often have a lot of energy.
They can be impulsive, and they can be restless. And
again it depends on if you are a five of hearts,
then I would say, boy, you signed up for a
roller coaster of emotion. If you are a five of diamonds,
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you've signed up often often for many relationships. I've had
so many five of diamonds with lots of relationships i've had.
I remember saying to somebody once, oh, five of diamonds,
how many times you've been married? And she looked at
me like she was done that. I asked the question
and she said five, And I know it. But also
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the thing about a five of diamonds, which is really
really amazing, and I love this five of diamonds always
step in the room with lots of angels, so I
think that's really new. I love that anyway. So fives
are restless, and they love to travel and they love
to learn, So fives are really cool. Sixes are all
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about balancing karma. So if somebody comes in and I
know there are six of doesn't matter what it is.
They're here to balance karma. It's like you sew what
you weep, what you leave. I mean you be weeping.
You sow what you reap, and some people are weeping
about that. So you have to really, you know, challenge
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yourself if you are a six, to do really good
out in the world. And too often they're wildly creative,
and sometimes they're really great at great at different things,
you know, really smart. I love working with sixes. Now,
if you are a seven, sevens are about They're mystical,
they're spiritual. They can have lots of reflection, and that's
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the higher side of the nature of a seven comes
in with reflection and discerning. They can also, on the
lower side, can be very skeptical and very pessimistic, and
ultimately a seven is here to let go of all
negativity and find faith and faith and faith. It's all
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about faith. So if you are an eight, eight is
about power, power, power and power. You know, every every
card has a positive and a negative, always within eight.
You want to watch your power if it's an eight
of hearts. It's funny. My mother was an eight of hearts.
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Her birthday was August thirty first, and she had a
tremendous amount of power in the emotional realm, which is
what hearts do. She was a therapist, a lot of power.
So you have to use your power wisely. And they
are often visionaries and they're high lead competent people that
eight eights because they bring in power. But the thing
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with any eight, any eight, is you have to actually
use your power wisely. So it's like a test in
this lifetime. Are you going to screw up some of them? Do?
I've seen it, and I would like, I'm always so
amazed because I'm like, you know, you shouldn't go down
that road right well, you know, and often you'll find
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CEOs as eights, so you kind of go, Okay, are
you a good leader or are you not a good leader.
It's going to reflect on you in your future life
because as we're doing this life we're writing our future life.
I don't mean necessarily coming back on Earth. I don't
believe that, but many people will come back, you know, many,
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most probably, So you kind of want to complete a cycle.
That's where I'm getting with that. So do good, no
matter what car you are card you are, just do
do really well in the world. Be good, be kind,
be nice. Anyway, if you come in as a nine
nines mean a card of completion, and in fact, you
know what I should do, Renee, And I'll finish this
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in a second, Renee, would you put that up please?
But everybody take a picture of this. This is a
destiny card berth chart and if you could take a
picture of it and you can see the months are
up on top January I think it's the months up
on top and the days are down below on the side,
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and you can find if you I can't, I'd have
to make it bigger. But if you guys can, just
you know, make a copy of this, take a picture
of it. And I know that Michelle's going to post
this on my Facebook and on my Instagram. But it's
a really great poster that will tell you what card
you are on. Okay, So get a picture of that.
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Thank you, Renee. So if you are a nine, nine's
come to complete a soul cycle. So what does that mean?
So on the other side, choose why we're going to
come back. There's a theme, and this theme will have
run through any lifetimes. It's not like we get here
and this time my theme is. It's the same coming
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along the band. You know, it's like, what do you
need to work on now to you complete said theme?
And it could be the theme might be, you know,
overcoming anger, having patience, being kind, overcoming being abandoned. That
might be a big one. There are a lot of
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reasons that we continue to come back with different things.
But when I see somebody's a nine, it means you're
completing a soul cycle. So it's like do it, do
it honorably, do it kindly, and complete it. No nonsense here.
Whenever I run into a nine, it has like nonsense.
I always think you're just screwing up, and I will
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say it to that person, please, no more nonsense, just
do good here that you've got this opportunity. So also,
nines are very good, usually very good caregivers, and they're
usually very charitable. There are some of the best souls around.
So if you are a ten, so tens are kind
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of individualistic. Two they're very career oriented. They're very independent,
and they're very determined. And on the negative side, they
can be a little overbearing because they're they're you know,
they're powerhouses. But on a positive note, they're usually some
of the most creative people I know, actors, actresses, musicians,
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I mean, like real, real, big talents in that pool.
And then there's the jacks. Jacks are creative, wildly creative.
There's a big difference between a male jack and a
female jack. So the females tend to take on the
more of the long suffering on some level, or more
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of the sacrifice is a better word, or more of
the you know, they are more compassionate. Not all the time.
It's just been my experience with the males. They they
can take on a kind of a playboy esque kind
of a place. So it's it all depends not always
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at all. This is not always at all. It's it
all depends on where they are in their in their maturity.
And that's the jack is all about, because it can
be very youthful, but it's got to be mature. It's
got to grow, and then they're the queens. The queens
offer service to humanity and often they sometimes they can
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be very demanding once we get to ten. Uh well,
eight eight's also are demanding. Eights tens, queens and kings
can be very demanding. But a queen often comes in
and you'll hear me say, oh, it's a male, that's
a queen. Oh you think like a female, Yes I do.
Or you'll hear me say to a woman that's a king,
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Oh you think like a male, you have a male brain,
Yes I do. You know, So that's kind of fun,
so service to humanity. As a queen, they can be
wildly intelligent, wildly creative and intuitive. And then they're the kings,
so kings again, if you come in as a king,
there's a lot of power there. You've got to be
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mindful of the power of the weight you carry. And
they can be very arrogant depending on where they are
in their growth and maturity. So that's really important. And
then there's the joker, which is the December thirty first card,
and so this system doesn't read the card the joker
and I have once in every blue moon, somebody will
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come to see me that's a December thirty first, and
when I have that in a session, I just go
straight to psychic ability or astrology and I kind of
combine them all of it because the joker is something
that it's like they didn't want to be seen in
this lifetime in any system. They're kind of like off
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the chart in their own system. So it's writing their
own script, if you will. It's kind of fascinating. So
those are how I love to work with and I
love to use the system. I think it's a really
really fun system here I do. So let's see Maggie
Landas and your birthday is eleven twenty seven, so eleven
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twenty seven. If we look at what I put up there,
eleven twenty seven is a six of Hearts And I
was just talking about six. Six is are about balance
and six, you know, likes everybody to get along. Six
of Hearts represents family emotions. Six of Hearts always has
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a road on life because they're usually the ones that
take care of the family. And bless you anybody who's
the six of Hearts, it's a wonderful card. It makes
you very very bright and also emotionally present, So and
try not to get too stressed within six of hearts.
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Often they're so concerned about the family or this dynamic
or that they get real stressed. So we try not
to get to anyway, But I am going to be
doing a book signing in Chicago. We had it planned
for May, but we've had to move it up, so
it might be it'll be a little further out, okay,
And everybody just remember that this is a fascinating time
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in life. We're lucky to be here and we're going
to learn an awful lot about about ourselves. Okay, anyway, everybody,
so take care of my friends, and I'll look forward
to seeing you Monday night, and then in two weeks,
all right, and we're gonna be talking about chakras in
two weeks, all right. Take care of my friends, see
you later.
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