June 9, 2025 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And we are live here on pet Life Radio Castavets
with doctor Jeff and here just waiting for my father.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
There we go and number one here, good morning, Good morning.
How you doing guys? All right? So anyway here for
you here for your pets. You know the drill you
need me, just ask away. We'd love to hear what
you want to talk about. I of course have some
topics that I wanted to cover, but I only do
those if we don't get enough good calls from you.
So let me know. For those of you on pet
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Life Radio, ask away, or call us who three eight
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and we will help you just with ever what you
need help with. So I want to wait we get
more of you online because I want to talk about this.
I want opinions, some stuff that you can think about.
(01:13):
You know. Also, I realized that that I may not
have wished all of you mom the happy Mother's Day
last week, so I'm going to hope you had it's
a happy belated I hope you had a good Mother's
day with the fam. You know, whether it's your barbecues
or whatever you did. I hope you had a lot
of fun. So let's see we discerned me. So what
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is ms net? Babe? Talk to me? No first names here,
come on, m Bell seventy six bs' I don't know
what BS. I know what BS. Dan. You have to
explain what your BS stands for. So teach you. Lewis Hello, Hello,
and I'm more of you coming on. As you get
more of you, I'm going to ask a question. Maybe
we'll start the second half with it because I want to.
(01:54):
I want you guys to let me know. So good
morning everybody. Good morning. I hope you're having a great day.
And wherever you are, our day started. We've been having
really if you're in La, you know what I'm talking about.
We're having some really weird weather in LA because we've
had some rain in May. Using by May, it's using gorgeous.
Then we had last weekend was gorgeous, super hot, super nice.
Everything was great, and I think, oh, right now we're
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now we're getting California weather. It's been overcast, hasn't burned off.
So I mean I walk my dogs, well a few
times during the day, but my last time is like
usually ten PM, maybe ten thirty. And I have five
of them, and if I have to still put like
a sweatshron or a hoodie or something is getting too cold.
I like it when I can walk out there kind
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of like Florida where our producer Mark lives. They can
be wearing shorts at ten thirty at night and still
still good. So Shecky Sheriff. So this is my my
sister wonder well one of them. The other sister has Jill.
The other Beth hasn't thrown up yet, so that's kind
of weird, all right. Anyway, So one of the things
I want to say, maybe we won't talk about it now.
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I want you to think about it. I think about
the pros and cons. But in the meantime I want
to add some tips as speaking of weather, as we're
getting a little warmer, hopefully there are you know, we've
talked about vaccines many times, what I call four vaccines,
other vaccines that are really in necessity, and it varies
from where you live. Well, what I've found is that
I just had a client come in the other day
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and she wanted the lime vaccine called Berrillia. I'm thinking
a lot. We don't do limes. My first question was
are you traveling during the summer, because yeah, we go
back East for the summer. I go, ah, so this
is an informed pet parent. And yes, if you go
especially the Northeast, we're going to New York, Connecticut, you know, Boston,
all these places where we see the lime disease, then yes,
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you want to get the shots in now, because if
it's the first time they've gotten them in this for
this particular dog, it is because it's a young dog
that we're gonna have to give two about a month apart,
and then we start going it once a year, depending
on lifestyle, depending on how much traveling. So I don't
recommend and that vaccine for normal for people here. But
if your dogs are going to be exposed because of location,
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and certainly back east, especially the Northeast during this time
of year, that is a problem. Yes, so talk to
your veterinarians pleased. If you have travel plans, there are
some diseases where you're going to see, you know, major ticks,
partworm disease. That's a biggie. We don't really have it
terribly year. But there we're seeing more and more mosquitos.
But oh god, in the northeast and the south, you
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know Florida, it's coming all the time. So that's what
we need to do. We need to get our pets protected.
So if that's the case, you want to start the
prevention now. It's for heartworm. You want to start the
prevention now for lime disease. So if you're going to
start hiking a lot because of the warmer weather, then yes,
you want to think about the rattlesnake vaccine. So this
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is like pre planning. Speak to your veterinarian now and
if you need these shots, or if you're having travel
plans during this summer, or your lifestyle is going to
change because of the warmer weather, sit down and have
a quick discussion and find out what vaccines that were
not core. You don't need them regularly, but you need them. Okay,
my four month old puppy, I love these, Thank you
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so much. My fore month of puppy tried to catch
a bee. He got stung in the lip. You think
out the stringer, it's hard to get swall and like, okay,
so this happens a lot, so don't feel badly and
guess what it's gonna happen again. So if given the opportunity,
they don't learn that be that's a joy for them.
So first of all, as you already did, most importantly
try to get that stinger if you can find it.
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The problem is that stinger. It's like a little comma.
You sometimes miss it. So I recommend if there's an
area of skin, take like a credit card and brush
it against the lip. Brush it against a lift up.
There A lot of times the steerians inside them out
and sometimes it'll catch on to that little stinger and
pull it out. If you can't find it, or if
it's maybe not even there anymore, then importantly hold compress
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is good. Benadrill. Ben Adril will help benadrill at one
milligram per pound bena drill per pound body weight, so
fifteen pound dog fifteen milligrams. Your standard benadryl tablet over
the counter diphenhydromene is twenty five milligrams, so you might
want to give half twelve point five milligrams. You can
also get children's benadrill, which is twelve point five milligrams
per teaspoon, which per mL million. There are five mls
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in one t spoon, so you're looking at twelve point
five dollars by five, so it's basically one point twenty five,
so two point five. So that's how you can figure
it out. If you have a dog that's two and
a half pounds or five pounds, you want to give
like three mL, so well three mL actress you have
two mL would be that's like two point five times two.
That's five right there, So just do the math and
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remember that twelve and a half per five and in
the children's liquid and a full adult is twenty five milligrams. Now,
if you have access to prednis oone or penis alone,
that would be good as well as an anti inflammatory.
Typically it's a quarter milligram per pounds. So if you
have I don't know, if you have a a twenty
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pound dog and you happen to have five milligram preads
sitting around, you can give a pred inice own also,
but it's going to go down, so it's cold compress
like ice on the area. A benegerl will help. If
you have pread, you can give a pread to not
use other anti inflammatories. The only non stortal anti INFLAMMATORI
is off your shelf that you could do if you
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want to decrease some pain in information is good old
fashioned aspirint, not tiling all, not advil, not any of those,
not Knapperson. It's got to be good old aspirin. And
it's usually one adult aspirin that's three in twenty five milligrams, okay,
for every sixty pounds to bodyweight, which means a baby
aspirin or an aspirin people take for their heart eighty
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one milligrams, one eighty one milligram for every fifteen to
twenty pounds of bodyweight. So keep that in mind as well.
So it's not something you want to give all the time.
It's a one shot, maybe two shot, you know, two
aspirins and that's it. Otherwise, see your all right, how
do I have my golden doodle lose weight? Well? One thing,
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you know, we have to understand one thing about dogs, puppies,
especially that what the needs of a puppy is almost
one and a half to two times greater than an
adult dog of that same weight, because you're still growing.
What we do is so we're feeding this puppy food.
We're feeding the amount that they love. It's perfect then
all of a sudden, they're starting to the end of
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their growing phase. And if you don't make an adjustment
and drop down their food requirement and they're keating the
same thing amount as a growth dog, then mayking the
game weight. And trust me, as all of us know,
it's a lot harder to take it off than it
is to put on. In fact, putting it on is
easy and kind of fun. Sometimes taking it off is
not so easy and certainly not fun. So prevention is
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the key. So if you want to do your best
to prevent it by starting as they're getting past that
adult age like five, six, seven months, bending on the
dog eight months, start cutting back puppy diet and going
on to either an adults or cutting the volume. Once
you have that puppy, you're no longer a puppy that
is already overweight. No magic, it's no magic. Reduce the calories,
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increase the exercise, and what we find is that the
bigger a dog gets, the less they want to do.
The less they do, the bigger they're going to get. Initially,
the calorie reduction is the most important thing. And then
as they are starting to feel better or you have
to push them at the beginning to exercise. Get them
out there, chase the ball, go to the park, whatever
it is. I recommend typically, you know, a good gauge
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of weight loss is basically one percent of body weight
per week, about four percent to maybe five percent per month.
So it's a slow process. You reduce anywhere from twenty
five to thirty percent of their caloric load. And one
of the biggest mistakes that we all make, trust me,
we all make, well, not everybody, but I've made too.
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We mostly feed our dogs through eyeballing. We fill that scooper,
we fill the whatever it is, and we throw it
in their bawl. We have no idea exactly how much
we're feeding them. So what I recommend is the following
is you want to take your eyeball scoop, but instead
of putting a bowl first, put it on a kitchen scale.
Know exactly what it is. Let's say it comes out
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to ten ounces. I'm just coming up with a number. Okay,
then if you want to get down thirty percent, so
you're taking three ounces away, So that means you have
to go from ten ounces down to seven ounces, and
you want to measure it each time. But you want
to get from here to here right from this ten
down to seven in about seven to ten days time.
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Don't do it all in one meal. They'll recognize it.
But if you do a little bit each each meal,
it'll it'll help. They'll ease into it and they'll do fine,
easiest over the counter ear cleaner for dogs, that's a
good one. So there are so many on the market.
I will say, of course, my ear cleaner called here
you no available on Amazon or at my office is
good or shopify it's really good. But trust me, there
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are a lot of good ear cleaners. Well. I found
the way they work best is if you use them.
Don't use it sitting on yourself. Oh I have an
ear cleaner. When the last time you clean your ears?
Oh about I don't know, a month ago. No, it's
not gonna work. So you want to get into a routine,
and especially have a dog that gets ear diseases. You
want to use. You want something gets mild. You want
something if they're not gonna hate. And by the way,
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let the ear cleaner do its job. In other words,
you pour it in literally, let it pour it back
out of the ear. And if with the intact ear
drum it's like a vessel a cup. It's gonna fill
up and start pulling over. At that point, you want
a massage really, really vigorously from the bottom up. You'll
notice a lot of the debris will start floating to
the top. Then what I usual to do is let
them back off for a second and if you want to
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give them a real quick blow in the ear and
then they'll shake their head like crazy and a lot
of that crap will just start coming out of the ear.
Then you can, you know, take your finger. You can
use the swab, a cotton swab, which I'm okay with,
but you got to learn how to use them. And
depending on the size of the dog, I recommend holding
it about maybe an inch to an inch and a
half away from the very tip and your two fingers
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here will stop the saw from going any deeper than that.
And for most dogs that's gonna be fine. If you
have a little teeny puppy, you got to go less
speak your veterinarian, but it is something that you want
to get used to do it. But it's a good
idea to start them on a real regular program to
get theorious clean. My ten year old Cata hula has
an ear infection being treated. Yes, So once you're even
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with an ear treat depending know what treatment they use.
Some treatments like osernia and chloro for example, you don't
want to clean the ear while the medication is working.
So hopefully they'll do a thorough clean before they the
doctor or the nurse, whoever it is, applies it, and
after that to sit back and keep you outside clean,
but don't go in the ear. Here's another thing, and
this drives me nuts. I know we've talked about this before,
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but I'm gonna do it again. Most of the ear
cleaners that your veterinarian is going to give you, all right,
have a long nozzle or they tell you to put
the count the drops or both with the nozzle in.
If you put the nozzle in, then you can't even
count the drops. You don't know how much it would
be squeezing. You don't know. If you're holding it up
on top to count drops, then it makes ten drops,
five drops, whatever it is. Then it's not gonna get
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down to whor it has to get down. So my
recommendation is is that you ask your veteran errant have
them show you much better way to do it. For
a tuberculin syringe, tubercular syringe is a one cc skinny
skinny skinny syringe, and instead of giving you counting drops,
it'll be put point three point four point five point
six point up to a point eight and the giant
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dog maybe one mL okay, the full syringe of the
ear medication. And then what you can do is so
my instructions are put point four mL point six mL
into the ear once a day. Even ear drops that
say used to be done in twelve hours unnecessary. Once
a day is gonna work just fine. And you don't
want to put too much crap in that ear anyway,
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So you do once a day, You do a measured amount.
You put the syringe in just a little, You shop
it all the way to bottom, just in enough you
can't see the tip anymore, and gently gently pushed the
minutes in. Why gently because if you have a good,
nice type fit and she said that ear canal is
finite because it's got an intact ear drum. If you
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push that stuff really hard and it's created like a
seal around your syringe, then you can actually by pushing
that stuff into heart, blow out the ear drum, so
very very carefully, just gently with your index finger. Yea,
let's put this stuff in then massage it in. The
dog will shake a little bit. If you see any
excess again, take your cautt and swab and clean out
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the excess. So that is the recommendation. Then brought her back.
They said, urine a tract. But she is not urinating frequently.
If anything you wants they want to give her, let
me go, maybe go Michelle. I want to go back
ear infection. Then brought her back. They said, urine a tract.
I don't get the two, but she is not urinating frequently,
if anything once or twice a day. They want me
to give her a claud month. I'm a little lost there.
I had to get from ears to a urinary attack
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infection and what made them think youurinar attack confection because
there is no link. Let me repeat that, no link
between an ear infection and an urinary attack infection. So
I'm concerned. Was it a side note? Did you mention
something about the dog drinking too much water urinating it
frequently something that led them to believe And even if
they did, I wouldn't give klavimox for a urine attack
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infection off the bat without testing the urine. Did they
do it? Take a urine sample? Do they do what's
called cistosynthesis, take a sample and send it to the lab.
It's a good thought that I'm not saying it's not
an urn attack confection. But I wouldn't think you're an attack
infection because of an ear infection. And I wouldn't automatically
give medication for a urine attack infection if you didn't
test the urine. So that's unusual to me. Now, if
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they felt an ear infection, would cladmox be a good
medication on top of whatever you put it in the air. Yes,
And sometimes if we have a big problem, I will
use an anti inflammatory. Sometimes, if it's really bad, the
ear is red in flame, I'll even use pregna zone
orally along with whatever topical medication they put in. So
find out about that and get back to you. There
must have been some reason they thought urinar attact. Nice staff,
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how you doing? That's ay? There you are, b boy
Jill Beach this morning? Ah so because she was lethargic,
so he kept looking. I mean, typically the urinary attack infection,
the clues that you would see, what drinking a lot
of water more than normally and frequent attempts to urinate,
squatting all the time. Or of course if you're seeing
some blood or something like that, yes, or the urine
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looks different than yes, one hundred percent, but you gotta
do a urine urine sample. And I would even do
an ultrasound of the bladder to see it's a bladder
wall thickened their crystals in there are there bladderstones. Something's
going on if she's not feeling well. But I wouldn't
necessarily go from lethargy to a urinary attack infection without
evidence of a urinary attract infection or urinate problem. So
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that's a weird one for me, all right, So let
me take a quick break here because I'm running over.
It's already nine to twenty. Time flies when you have
had a good time. So while Mark is playing the commercials,
I will stay on and I'll mute myself from pet
Life and we'll still talk a little bit. Don't go in.
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Hi, welcome back, Welcome here, pet Life Wady. We're talking
about a couple of cases from last week, and Barney
the one with the very aggressive Manago Perry's ectoma. Probably
again we didn't buy obviously, and I'm saying, why much
older dog? What would be a more aggressive treatment of
any of these? Well, A, it could be amputation, B
it could be radiation. All right, Chemo wouldn't help for
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this one. So we're looking at two pretty dramatic, drastic
treatments for already sixteen year old dog. No, unless you
have this academic urge to need to know, I don't
recommend these fancy tests because if the result of a
test is not going to change your approach to the case,
then don't do the test. I mean, you could do it,
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spend the money. It's not going to change anything. But
I just said, unless you have if you won't go
to bed at nine till you know what it is,
you're not gonna do anything about it anyway, then yeah,
spend the money. But otherwise it's crazy. So Barney, we
did not, and I totally agree, I would not push
him in, but from my experience it's probably amangia Perry's
iatoma because of the location, because what it looked like,
and I've removed many of them in surgery. Anyway, he
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came back in on a Thursday for a super removal
and that thing was amazing. He is betting his arms,
he's got more energy, and he's sixteen. You want it
from a big sixteen year old dog. But he's doing great.
So those are the best things ever. I love. Those
are the case is the happy endings? All right, two
things I wanted to talk about number one. Maybe I'll
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leave you with the end with the other one the
first one because I want to know your thoughts, and
then we can talk about it more next week. But
that's when it's shot. Collars. I had a dog. First
of all, let me get prefaces. I am not a fan.
I don't want to say I hate them, but I
strongly dislike them because there only ever should be used
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by someone who is a pro at knowing dogs well,
knowing how to use them, and who's going to tell
you most of the time he doesn't use them. So
that's an honest, really good, liable trainer with a lot
of experience put in the hands of a novice or
someone who does not really know how to use them
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will often reverse and in this particular case, it led
to the death of a dog because of euthanasia. And
you know, again I get it, and I supported it,
but they took one to a trainer who've used for
basic stuff. The dog is a very tough, aggressive doblemin pincher,
very tough. I mean he would go after me. Now,
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the only two people that can really handle him was
this woman who owned the dog and her dad. She
still lived at home her dad, and other than that,
you have to muggle him. He was really tough. So anyway,
they were you know, the holidays, and they sent the
dog back for another two week session of training. When
they went to pick the dog up, and this trainer
was one of these guys using shot collars, and the
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dog was in his cage, it was not really pretty
and the dog literally had to put him there because
the dog was very, very aggressive with them and the
other dogs. So shock collars were the answer, but it
wasn't the answer. It made it worse. Now when the
dog came out and back home. Now, even though it
was great typically with this girl and her dad. He
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started attack and biting them as well, and started looking
at them. The brother came over, who he She said, well,
you brother don't live at home anymore, but loved the brother.
The brother was in playing with him, and he started
to growl at the brother, so he carefully turned around
to walk out of the down the hallway. The dog
ran after him, jumped on him, and bit him the back.
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That is really weird. That's an attack. That's not leave
me alone. You're getting too close to me. You're getting
close to my toy. All right, I don't want a
pets now. When a dog runs after somebody, that is
really bad. My hunch is that that dog was so
affected by the improper use of the shock collar. What
was the association this dog made this Doug me the
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associate that you brought me here, you meaning mom, the dad,
the brother. That's why I'm angry because you brought this
pain on me, not naturally, just the person delivering the
shock because remember the socket being remote. So now the
dog is associated being in this place with the family
who brought me here. It got really ugly. I mean,
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try to attack the girl when the dad came in
and he took the bites from the dog so the
girl can get out of the room. It's crazy and
this is like Kujo. So anyway, in good conscience, you
could not take this dog to another family. You did
not want to put it because it would have been
destroyed anyway, and maybe not so nicely. And they made
the very tough decision. And I did not disagree that
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they really need to say goodbye to this dog. Anyway.
The good news is they just brought a rescued puppy
that is so cute. And you know again it is
the looks on her face to now have a dog
who now can she can pick up and she can
cuddle and she can looks at her in the face.
It's said to you, difference color hasn't been vibrated. Okay,
so if you have vibrating what I recommend I like
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is the citronella collar. Citronella is a little dice they
wear when the dog barked. It's not the only collar.
The vibrating ones too that are accepted by a lot
of humane groups. But the citronella with the vibration from
the bar, the vocal bark, the chords, it emits a
citronella spray. What it does, Okay, it hits all five sentence.
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First of all, when it sprays, they feel it okay
on their chin. Number two, they see it as it
brushes against their face, they hear it because it wishes. Okay,
they smell it, and finally they taste it. They hate,
so all five cents are gump and they hate the
taste and the smell of the citronella when it's used properly.
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And what I found is that you when the owners
put the collar on, they don't even have to refill
the citronella liquid anymore. Just wearing the collar say okay,
I guess I can't bark. So that is a successful device.
It doesn't hurt them. They just don't like it. They
don't like the smell of the taste. They don't like
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they don't like seeing that spray across their face. So
that is totally fine, and that's why everybody really likes it,
or maybe just some good training from professional. Absolutely absolutely,
But most of the trainers I work with, except for
maybe one or two, will approve of a shock collar
from someone from a novice or someone who says they
know how to use it, but they don't. It's never
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an excuse. It's never like I ran out of every
other thing to do and I'm gonna lost, so I'm
gonna do a shot collars. No, because you know that
shot collars often backfire and it makes the dog worse
and not better. So, but I do like the citronella
collars are really good. A vibrating collar is good too,
but it doesn't necessarily have the same Now, also, there
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are other callers out there that don't necessarily deliver a shock.
I am not tried them, so I don't know personally,
but I've heard that they're not as bad, and they just,
you know, like women, I don't do this as much.
Maybe you do, But guys, I mean, you want to
test a nine vault battery? How do you test a
nine vault battery? Right? You take it, touch it to
your tongue, okay, and it gives you that little buzz
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And if it's a stronger buzz, you know it's still good.
If it's weaker, no buds, you know you need a
new battery. There are collars that deliver a little it's
not a shock, it's a little vibrate, but that little
buzz and those might be Okay. Again, I've not do
for myself, so I don't know. I've never spoken anybody
who has, but I understand from the humane groups that
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it is an alternative. Preferably. I like the citronella the
best because everybody agrees that is, if it works, it's
the best approach. Another one is a penny can. I'm
sure you've heard of it. That one. There was a
group out there that had these little device that looked
like a penny, but it was just a noise maker,
and you would toss it not at the dog. Let
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me repeat, not at the dog, but in the dog's direction, okay,
and that would stop them. They hear it, they see
it go by them, and it stops them from barking.
Sometimes it may even chase it and players start playing
with it. But that is also a better alternative than
any kind of shock delivering collar, which, as I said,
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I am not a fan. I love to know if
any of your experience with used one, or had a
trainer that used when, how it work? Did it work well?
So I'd love to hear from you. All Right, we're
out of time, but I'm going to leave you with
something to think about. And I want your responses next week.
So even if you if you have anybody that you
know that does this and they want to chime in,
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I'd love to hear because there is definitely the disagreement
between the animal person like I am and animal people
that are more behavior as trainers. And well, we'll get
into the discussion next week, but I will tell you this,
I want your opinions. How do you feel about your
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dog's sleeping in bed with you? Is it a pro?
Is it a ya? Is it a nay? If so?
Or if not? Why? And more importantly, what type of
behavior issues have you noted for those that have allowed
their pets to sleep in bed with you? So I
don't want answers now. I want you to think about it.
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I want you to come back and we'll talk about
it next week. But I certainly have my feelings. I
think you know them already, so I'm sure you've seen
pictures of my bed and what it looks like. But
it's something that i'd love to hear comments. I'd love
to hear the pros and I love to hear the
cons because I just don't know how many of these
behaviorists who are many of them are cons Are they right?
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Maybe where I'm doing it wrong, I don't know. But anyway,
so have a great week everybody. If you're here in
La I see the sun trying to come out, and
I'll be here next week. And is next week already?
It's says the eighty Yeah, next week is more early weekend.
I'll be here my early weekend even if even if
you can and you are traveling, if you can hop on,
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that'd be great, but I don't want to not do this.
The other time I won't do the show is if
I'm not in town. And as you know, if I'm
someplace and I'm not in an airplay getting there we're
coming back from I will do the show from wherever
I am. So you've seen me come from Cabo whereever
I are done. So I love doing the show. I
love being here for you. So if you have questions,
save them up. But do think about does your dogs
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sleep bed with you? And let me know why might
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You know. Also, I realized that that I may not
have wished all of you mom the happy Mother's Day
last week, so I'm going to hope you had it's
a happy belated I hope you had a good Mother's
day with the fam. You know, whether it's your barbecues
or whatever you did. I hope you had a lot
of fun. So let's see we discerned me. So what
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is ms net? Babe? Talk to me? No first names here,
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what BS. I know what BS. Dan. You have to
explain what your BS stands for. So teach you. Lewis Hello, Hello,
and I'm more of you coming on. As you get
more of you, I'm going to ask a question. Maybe
we'll start the second half with it because I want to.
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I want you guys to let me know. So good
morning everybody. Good morning. I hope you're having a great day.
And wherever you are, our day started. We've been having
really if you're in La, you know what I'm talking about.
We're having some really weird weather in LA because we've
had some rain in May. Using by May, it's using gorgeous.
Then we had last weekend was gorgeous, super hot, super nice.
Everything was great, and I think, oh, right now we're
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now we're getting California weather. It's been overcast, hasn't burned off.
So I mean I walk my dogs, well a few
times during the day, but my last time is like
usually ten PM, maybe ten thirty. And I have five
of them, and if I have to still put like
a sweatshron or a hoodie or something is getting too cold.
I like it when I can walk out there kind
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of like Florida where our producer Mark lives. They can
be wearing shorts at ten thirty at night and still
still good. So Shecky Sheriff. So this is my my
sister wonder well one of them. The other sister has Jill.
The other Beth hasn't thrown up yet, so that's kind
of weird, all right. Anyway, So one of the things
I want to say, maybe we won't talk about it now.
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I want you to think about it. I think about
the pros and cons. But in the meantime I want
to add some tips as speaking of weather, as we're
getting a little warmer, hopefully there are you know, we've
talked about vaccines many times, what I call four vaccines,
other vaccines that are really in necessity, and it varies
from where you live. Well, what I've found is that
I just had a client come in the other day
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and she wanted the lime vaccine called Berrillia. I'm thinking
a lot. We don't do limes. My first question was
are you traveling during the summer, because yeah, we go
back East for the summer. I go, ah, so this
is an informed pet parent. And yes, if you go
especially the Northeast, we're going to New York, Connecticut, you know, Boston,
all these places where we see the lime disease, then yes,
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you want to get the shots in now, because if
it's the first time they've gotten them in this for
this particular dog, it is because it's a young dog
that we're gonna have to give two about a month apart,
and then we start going it once a year, depending
on lifestyle, depending on how much traveling. So I don't
recommend and that vaccine for normal for people here. But
if your dogs are going to be exposed because of location,
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and certainly back east, especially the Northeast during this time
of year, that is a problem. Yes, so talk to
your veterinarians pleased. If you have travel plans, there are
some diseases where you're going to see, you know, major ticks,
partworm disease. That's a biggie. We don't really have it
terribly year. But there we're seeing more and more mosquitos.
But oh god, in the northeast and the south, you
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know Florida, it's coming all the time. So that's what
we need to do. We need to get our pets protected.
So if that's the case, you want to start the
prevention now. It's for heartworm. You want to start the
prevention now for lime disease. So if you're going to
start hiking a lot because of the warmer weather, then yes,
you want to think about the rattlesnake vaccine. So this
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is like pre planning. Speak to your veterinarian now and
if you need these shots, or if you're having travel
plans during this summer, or your lifestyle is going to
change because of the warmer weather, sit down and have
a quick discussion and find out what vaccines that were
not core. You don't need them regularly, but you need them. Okay,
my four month old puppy, I love these, Thank you
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so much. My fore month of puppy tried to catch
a bee. He got stung in the lip. You think
out the stringer, it's hard to get swall and like, okay,
so this happens a lot, so don't feel badly and
guess what it's gonna happen again. So if given the opportunity,
they don't learn that be that's a joy for them.
So first of all, as you already did, most importantly
try to get that stinger if you can find it.
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The problem is that stinger. It's like a little comma.
You sometimes miss it. So I recommend if there's an
area of skin, take like a credit card and brush
it against the lip. Brush it against a lift up.
There A lot of times the steerians inside them out
and sometimes it'll catch on to that little stinger and
pull it out. If you can't find it, or if
it's maybe not even there anymore, then importantly hold compress
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is good. Benadrill. Ben Adril will help benadrill at one
milligram per pound bena drill per pound body weight, so
fifteen pound dog fifteen milligrams. Your standard benadryl tablet over
the counter diphenhydromene is twenty five milligrams, so you might
want to give half twelve point five milligrams. You can
also get children's benadrill, which is twelve point five milligrams
per teaspoon, which per mL million. There are five mls
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in one t spoon, so you're looking at twelve point
five dollars by five, so it's basically one point twenty five,
so two point five. So that's how you can figure
it out. If you have a dog that's two and
a half pounds or five pounds, you want to give
like three mL, so well three mL actress you have
two mL would be that's like two point five times two.
That's five right there, So just do the math and
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remember that twelve and a half per five and in
the children's liquid and a full adult is twenty five milligrams. Now,
if you have access to prednis oone or penis alone,
that would be good as well as an anti inflammatory.
Typically it's a quarter milligram per pounds. So if you
have I don't know, if you have a a twenty
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pound dog and you happen to have five milligram preads
sitting around, you can give a pred inice own also,
but it's going to go down, so it's cold compress
like ice on the area. A benegerl will help. If
you have pread, you can give a pread to not
use other anti inflammatories. The only non stortal anti INFLAMMATORI
is off your shelf that you could do if you
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want to decrease some pain in information is good old
fashioned aspirint, not tiling all, not advil, not any of those,
not Knapperson. It's got to be good old aspirin. And
it's usually one adult aspirin that's three in twenty five milligrams, okay,
for every sixty pounds to bodyweight, which means a baby
aspirin or an aspirin people take for their heart eighty
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one milligrams, one eighty one milligram for every fifteen to
twenty pounds of bodyweight. So keep that in mind as well.
So it's not something you want to give all the time.
It's a one shot, maybe two shot, you know, two
aspirins and that's it. Otherwise, see your all right, how
do I have my golden doodle lose weight? Well? One thing,
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you know, we have to understand one thing about dogs, puppies,
especially that what the needs of a puppy is almost
one and a half to two times greater than an
adult dog of that same weight, because you're still growing.
What we do is so we're feeding this puppy food.
We're feeding the amount that they love. It's perfect then
all of a sudden, they're starting to the end of
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their growing phase. And if you don't make an adjustment
and drop down their food requirement and they're keating the
same thing amount as a growth dog, then mayking the
game weight. And trust me, as all of us know,
it's a lot harder to take it off than it
is to put on. In fact, putting it on is
easy and kind of fun. Sometimes taking it off is
not so easy and certainly not fun. So prevention is
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the key. So if you want to do your best
to prevent it by starting as they're getting past that
adult age like five, six, seven months, bending on the
dog eight months, start cutting back puppy diet and going
on to either an adults or cutting the volume. Once
you have that puppy, you're no longer a puppy that
is already overweight. No magic, it's no magic. Reduce the calories,
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increase the exercise, and what we find is that the
bigger a dog gets, the less they want to do.
The less they do, the bigger they're going to get. Initially,
the calorie reduction is the most important thing. And then
as they are starting to feel better or you have
to push them at the beginning to exercise. Get them
out there, chase the ball, go to the park, whatever
it is. I recommend typically, you know, a good gauge
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of weight loss is basically one percent of body weight
per week, about four percent to maybe five percent per month.
So it's a slow process. You reduce anywhere from twenty
five to thirty percent of their caloric load. And one
of the biggest mistakes that we all make, trust me,
we all make, well, not everybody, but I've made too.
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We mostly feed our dogs through eyeballing. We fill that scooper,
we fill the whatever it is, and we throw it
in their bawl. We have no idea exactly how much
we're feeding them. So what I recommend is the following
is you want to take your eyeball scoop, but instead
of putting a bowl first, put it on a kitchen scale.
Know exactly what it is. Let's say it comes out
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to ten ounces. I'm just coming up with a number. Okay,
then if you want to get down thirty percent, so
you're taking three ounces away, So that means you have
to go from ten ounces down to seven ounces, and
you want to measure it each time. But you want
to get from here to here right from this ten
down to seven in about seven to ten days time.
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Don't do it all in one meal. They'll recognize it.
But if you do a little bit each each meal,
it'll it'll help. They'll ease into it and they'll do fine,
easiest over the counter ear cleaner for dogs, that's a
good one. So there are so many on the market.
I will say, of course, my ear cleaner called here
you no available on Amazon or at my office is
good or shopify it's really good. But trust me, there
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are a lot of good ear cleaners. Well. I found
the way they work best is if you use them.
Don't use it sitting on yourself. Oh I have an
ear cleaner. When the last time you clean your ears?
Oh about I don't know, a month ago. No, it's
not gonna work. So you want to get into a routine,
and especially have a dog that gets ear diseases. You
want to use. You want something gets mild. You want
something if they're not gonna hate. And by the way,
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let the ear cleaner do its job. In other words,
you pour it in literally, let it pour it back
out of the ear. And if with the intact ear
drum it's like a vessel a cup. It's gonna fill
up and start pulling over. At that point, you want
a massage really, really vigorously from the bottom up. You'll
notice a lot of the debris will start floating to
the top. Then what I usual to do is let
them back off for a second and if you want to
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give them a real quick blow in the ear and
then they'll shake their head like crazy and a lot
of that crap will just start coming out of the ear.
Then you can, you know, take your finger. You can
use the swab, a cotton swab, which I'm okay with,
but you got to learn how to use them. And
depending on the size of the dog, I recommend holding
it about maybe an inch to an inch and a
half away from the very tip and your two fingers
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here will stop the saw from going any deeper than that.
And for most dogs that's gonna be fine. If you
have a little teeny puppy, you got to go less
speak your veterinarian, but it is something that you want
to get used to do it. But it's a good
idea to start them on a real regular program to
get theorious clean. My ten year old Cata hula has
an ear infection being treated. Yes, So once you're even
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with an ear treat depending know what treatment they use.
Some treatments like osernia and chloro for example, you don't
want to clean the ear while the medication is working.
So hopefully they'll do a thorough clean before they the
doctor or the nurse, whoever it is, applies it, and
after that to sit back and keep you outside clean,
but don't go in the ear. Here's another thing, and
this drives me nuts. I know we've talked about this before,
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but I'm gonna do it again. Most of the ear
cleaners that your veterinarian is going to give you, all right,
have a long nozzle or they tell you to put
the count the drops or both with the nozzle in.
If you put the nozzle in, then you can't even
count the drops. You don't know how much it would
be squeezing. You don't know. If you're holding it up
on top to count drops, then it makes ten drops,
five drops, whatever it is. Then it's not gonna get
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down to whor it has to get down. So my
recommendation is is that you ask your veteran errant have
them show you much better way to do it. For
a tuberculin syringe, tubercular syringe is a one cc skinny
skinny skinny syringe, and instead of giving you counting drops,
it'll be put point three point four point five point
six point up to a point eight and the giant
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dog maybe one mL okay, the full syringe of the
ear medication. And then what you can do is so
my instructions are put point four mL point six mL
into the ear once a day. Even ear drops that
say used to be done in twelve hours unnecessary. Once
a day is gonna work just fine. And you don't
want to put too much crap in that ear anyway,
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So you do once a day, You do a measured amount.
You put the syringe in just a little, You shop
it all the way to bottom, just in enough you
can't see the tip anymore, and gently gently pushed the
minutes in. Why gently because if you have a good,
nice type fit and she said that ear canal is
finite because it's got an intact ear drum. If you
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push that stuff really hard and it's created like a
seal around your syringe, then you can actually by pushing
that stuff into heart, blow out the ear drum, so
very very carefully, just gently with your index finger. Yea,
let's put this stuff in then massage it in. The
dog will shake a little bit. If you see any
excess again, take your cautt and swab and clean out
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the excess. So that is the recommendation. Then brought her back.
They said, urine a tract. But she is not urinating frequently.
If anything you wants they want to give her, let
me go, maybe go Michelle. I want to go back
ear infection. Then brought her back. They said, urine a tract.
I don't get the two, but she is not urinating frequently,
if anything once or twice a day. They want me
to give her a claud month. I'm a little lost there.
I had to get from ears to a urinary attack
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infection and what made them think youurinar attack confection because
there is no link. Let me repeat that, no link
between an ear infection and an urinary attack infection. So
I'm concerned. Was it a side note? Did you mention
something about the dog drinking too much water urinating it
frequently something that led them to believe And even if
they did, I wouldn't give klavimox for a urine attack
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infection off the bat without testing the urine. Did they
do it? Take a urine sample? Do they do what's
called cistosynthesis, take a sample and send it to the lab.
It's a good thought that I'm not saying it's not
an urn attack confection. But I wouldn't think you're an attack
infection because of an ear infection. And I wouldn't automatically
give medication for a urine attack infection if you didn't
test the urine. So that's unusual to me. Now, if
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they felt an ear infection, would cladmox be a good
medication on top of whatever you put it in the air. Yes,
And sometimes if we have a big problem, I will
use an anti inflammatory. Sometimes, if it's really bad, the
ear is red in flame, I'll even use pregna zone
orally along with whatever topical medication they put in. So
find out about that and get back to you. There
must have been some reason they thought urinar attact. Nice staff,
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how you doing? That's ay? There you are, b boy
Jill Beach this morning? Ah so because she was lethargic,
so he kept looking. I mean, typically the urinary attack infection,
the clues that you would see, what drinking a lot
of water more than normally and frequent attempts to urinate,
squatting all the time. Or of course if you're seeing
some blood or something like that, yes, or the urine
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looks different than yes, one hundred percent, but you gotta
do a urine urine sample. And I would even do
an ultrasound of the bladder to see it's a bladder
wall thickened their crystals in there are there bladderstones. Something's
going on if she's not feeling well. But I wouldn't
necessarily go from lethargy to a urinary attack infection without
evidence of a urinary attract infection or urinate problem. So
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that's a weird one for me, all right, So let
me take a quick break here because I'm running over.
It's already nine to twenty. Time flies when you have
had a good time. So while Mark is playing the commercials,
I will stay on and I'll mute myself from pet
Life and we'll still talk a little bit. Don't go in.
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Hi, welcome back, Welcome here, pet Life Wady. We're talking
about a couple of cases from last week, and Barney
the one with the very aggressive Manago Perry's ectoma. Probably
again we didn't buy obviously, and I'm saying, why much
older dog? What would be a more aggressive treatment of
any of these? Well, A, it could be amputation, B
it could be radiation. All right, Chemo wouldn't help for
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this one. So we're looking at two pretty dramatic, drastic
treatments for already sixteen year old dog. No, unless you
have this academic urge to need to know, I don't
recommend these fancy tests because if the result of a
test is not going to change your approach to the case,
then don't do the test. I mean, you could do it,
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spend the money. It's not going to change anything. But
I just said, unless you have if you won't go
to bed at nine till you know what it is,
you're not gonna do anything about it anyway, then yeah,
spend the money. But otherwise it's crazy. So Barney, we
did not, and I totally agree, I would not push
him in, but from my experience it's probably amangia Perry's
iatoma because of the location, because what it looked like,
and I've removed many of them in surgery. Anyway, he
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came back in on a Thursday for a super removal
and that thing was amazing. He is betting his arms,
he's got more energy, and he's sixteen. You want it
from a big sixteen year old dog. But he's doing great.
So those are the best things ever. I love. Those
are the case is the happy endings? All right, two
things I wanted to talk about number one. Maybe I'll
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leave you with the end with the other one the
first one because I want to know your thoughts, and
then we can talk about it more next week. But
that's when it's shot. Collars. I had a dog. First
of all, let me get prefaces. I am not a fan.
I don't want to say I hate them, but I
strongly dislike them because there only ever should be used
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by someone who is a pro at knowing dogs well,
knowing how to use them, and who's going to tell
you most of the time he doesn't use them. So
that's an honest, really good, liable trainer with a lot
of experience put in the hands of a novice or
someone who does not really know how to use them
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will often reverse and in this particular case, it led
to the death of a dog because of euthanasia. And
you know, again I get it, and I supported it,
but they took one to a trainer who've used for
basic stuff. The dog is a very tough, aggressive doblemin pincher,
very tough. I mean he would go after me. Now,
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the only two people that can really handle him was
this woman who owned the dog and her dad. She
still lived at home her dad, and other than that,
you have to muggle him. He was really tough. So anyway,
they were you know, the holidays, and they sent the
dog back for another two week session of training. When
they went to pick the dog up, and this trainer
was one of these guys using shot collars, and the
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dog was in his cage, it was not really pretty
and the dog literally had to put him there because
the dog was very, very aggressive with them and the
other dogs. So shock collars were the answer, but it
wasn't the answer. It made it worse. Now when the
dog came out and back home. Now, even though it
was great typically with this girl and her dad. He
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started attack and biting them as well, and started looking
at them. The brother came over, who he She said, well,
you brother don't live at home anymore, but loved the brother.
The brother was in playing with him, and he started
to growl at the brother, so he carefully turned around
to walk out of the down the hallway. The dog
ran after him, jumped on him, and bit him the back.
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That is really weird. That's an attack. That's not leave
me alone. You're getting too close to me. You're getting
close to my toy. All right, I don't want a
pets now. When a dog runs after somebody, that is
really bad. My hunch is that that dog was so
affected by the improper use of the shock collar. What
was the association this dog made this Doug me the
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associate that you brought me here, you meaning mom, the dad,
the brother. That's why I'm angry because you brought this
pain on me, not naturally, just the person delivering the
shock because remember the socket being remote. So now the
dog is associated being in this place with the family
who brought me here. It got really ugly. I mean,
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try to attack the girl when the dad came in
and he took the bites from the dog so the
girl can get out of the room. It's crazy and
this is like Kujo. So anyway, in good conscience, you
could not take this dog to another family. You did
not want to put it because it would have been
destroyed anyway, and maybe not so nicely. And they made
the very tough decision. And I did not disagree that
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they really need to say goodbye to this dog. Anyway.
The good news is they just brought a rescued puppy
that is so cute. And you know again it is
the looks on her face to now have a dog
who now can she can pick up and she can
cuddle and she can looks at her in the face.
It's said to you, difference color hasn't been vibrated. Okay,
so if you have vibrating what I recommend I like
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is the citronella collar. Citronella is a little dice they
wear when the dog barked. It's not the only collar.
The vibrating ones too that are accepted by a lot
of humane groups. But the citronella with the vibration from
the bar, the vocal bark, the chords, it emits a
citronella spray. What it does, Okay, it hits all five sentence.
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First of all, when it sprays, they feel it okay
on their chin. Number two, they see it as it
brushes against their face, they hear it because it wishes. Okay,
they smell it, and finally they taste it. They hate,
so all five cents are gump and they hate the
taste and the smell of the citronella when it's used properly.
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And what I found is that you when the owners
put the collar on, they don't even have to refill
the citronella liquid anymore. Just wearing the collar say okay,
I guess I can't bark. So that is a successful device.
It doesn't hurt them. They just don't like it. They
don't like the smell of the taste. They don't like
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they don't like seeing that spray across their face. So
that is totally fine, and that's why everybody really likes it,
or maybe just some good training from professional. Absolutely absolutely,
But most of the trainers I work with, except for
maybe one or two, will approve of a shock collar
from someone from a novice or someone who says they
know how to use it, but they don't. It's never
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an excuse. It's never like I ran out of every
other thing to do and I'm gonna lost, so I'm
gonna do a shot collars. No, because you know that
shot collars often backfire and it makes the dog worse
and not better. So, but I do like the citronella
collars are really good. A vibrating collar is good too,
but it doesn't necessarily have the same Now, also, there
(24:29):
are other callers out there that don't necessarily deliver a shock.
I am not tried them, so I don't know personally,
but I've heard that they're not as bad, and they just,
you know, like women, I don't do this as much.
Maybe you do, But guys, I mean, you want to
test a nine vault battery? How do you test a
nine vault battery? Right? You take it, touch it to
your tongue, okay, and it gives you that little buzz
(24:52):
And if it's a stronger buzz, you know it's still good.
If it's weaker, no buds, you know you need a
new battery. There are collars that deliver a little it's
not a shock, it's a little vibrate, but that little
buzz and those might be Okay. Again, I've not do
for myself, so I don't know. I've never spoken anybody
who has, but I understand from the humane groups that
(25:13):
it is an alternative. Preferably. I like the citronella the
best because everybody agrees that is, if it works, it's
the best approach. Another one is a penny can. I'm
sure you've heard of it. That one. There was a
group out there that had these little device that looked
like a penny, but it was just a noise maker,
and you would toss it not at the dog. Let
(25:36):
me repeat, not at the dog, but in the dog's direction, okay,
and that would stop them. They hear it, they see
it go by them, and it stops them from barking.
Sometimes it may even chase it and players start playing
with it. But that is also a better alternative than
any kind of shock delivering collar, which, as I said,
(25:56):
I am not a fan. I love to know if
any of your experience with used one, or had a
trainer that used when, how it work? Did it work well?
So I'd love to hear from you. All Right, we're
out of time, but I'm going to leave you with
something to think about. And I want your responses next week.
So even if you if you have anybody that you
know that does this and they want to chime in,
(26:16):
I'd love to hear because there is definitely the disagreement
between the animal person like I am and animal people
that are more behavior as trainers. And well, we'll get
into the discussion next week, but I will tell you this,
I want your opinions. How do you feel about your
(26:37):
dog's sleeping in bed with you? Is it a pro?
Is it a ya? Is it a nay? If so?
Or if not? Why? And more importantly, what type of
behavior issues have you noted for those that have allowed
their pets to sleep in bed with you? So I
don't want answers now. I want you to think about it.
(26:58):
I want you to come back and we'll talk about
it next week. But I certainly have my feelings. I
think you know them already, so I'm sure you've seen
pictures of my bed and what it looks like. But
it's something that i'd love to hear comments. I'd love
to hear the pros and I love to hear the
cons because I just don't know how many of these
behaviorists who are many of them are cons Are they right?
(27:21):
Maybe where I'm doing it wrong, I don't know. But anyway,
so have a great week everybody. If you're here in
La I see the sun trying to come out, and
I'll be here next week. And is next week already?
It's says the eighty Yeah, next week is more early weekend.
I'll be here my early weekend even if even if
you can and you are traveling, if you can hop on,
(27:43):
that'd be great, but I don't want to not do this.
The other time I won't do the show is if
I'm not in town. And as you know, if I'm
someplace and I'm not in an airplay getting there we're
coming back from I will do the show from wherever
I am. So you've seen me come from Cabo whereever
I are done. So I love doing the show. I
love being here for you. So if you have questions,
save them up. But do think about does your dogs
(28:06):
sleep bed with you? And let me know why might
not yet.
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