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October 11, 2025 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
And here we are alive.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
You're there with doctor again four by the next for
the host thirty minutes here on Petlife Radios. Asked to
that for doctor jep and of course here on Instagram Live.
I just turned on my Instagram so he'll wait for
some fatherers to join us. Cast snappers is here a
little good morning, good morning, and so oh god, number
of joining us at once. I love it, love it,
love it allthough, have your questions ready please, I got

(00:46):
I got time answer questions. I got things to talk about.
So I'm just going to make sure I way back
to everybody, which is great, and keep coming and coming.
So anyway, I had a little crazy week. I don't
know if you remember. A couple of weeks ago, we
talked about this very large pitple that had the pyometra.
We talked about the importance of neuter, especially if you
don't have if you have a female dog that you're

(01:07):
not going to breede and they're getting old, or just
get them fixed. It avoids so many problems, and this
was one of them. So anyway, dog's doing great. I
was really worried because if you're recalled the pinemary ted rupture.
So that means all this puss was literally leaking into
the abdomen and it was really really I mean, that's
very dangerous. So something we learned in ved school. They

(01:30):
drill it into you. They drill it into you. Dilution
is the solution to pollution. So when you have something
that's potentially toxic or very very severe for the abdomen
or any part of the body that's light. When you
think about a wound, what's one thing we always do
when we flush the wound. So we want to flush
it out really really well. The more flushing, the whatever

(01:51):
bacteria is there, it dilutes everything. In this case, it
would have been the bacteria, the pus, et cetera would
be diluted. So it is Sharon, how you doing it
is very very important. So anyway, I think I put
in four liters of fluid just flushing it. You want
to wait until the liquid that you sort of suck
up in your device, okay, that it is as clear

(02:13):
as the put the stuff you're putting in. So and
it takes a while to do that. So Dog's doing great.
I'm thrilled. And I was supposed to do another foreign
body surgery, but there one been wanted overnight care. We
don't do that. I were to say them a couple
thousand dollars, but you know, what are you gonna do?
And then on a sad note, we talked about last
Sunday that my cat, one of my cat's, fourteen year

(02:35):
old Ollie had I don't know if I knew the
diagnosed with them kidney rena lymphoma, And boy, it came
on so suddenly. I'm telling you he had one day,
one day not not eating. He ate, but he just
didn't eat with that same vigor. And every morning when
I feed my dogs and I top it with some
canned food, Golly would jump up on the counter and

(02:57):
just wait for me to give him a little bit
of the candle food. I mean, he just finished his
own mail, like ki food. Now he wants a little
bit of dog food. And it was like it was
our thing every morning. And this second morning he didn't
do it. Bought the man. Turns out it was renal lymphoma.
Started treatment just wasn't enough. He was so sick and
he was had fluid build up in his lungs called
plural diffusion. So that means that tumor had already gone

(03:20):
to his lymph nodes and his media steynum Hey JB.
So it was unfortunately just a sad, sad mess. Come Monday,
it was clear that he couldn't fite it and we
had to say goodbye, very very sad. It was really sad.
Of I'm sort of happy. But when we adopted him,
a woman came in with two little kittens. I took
one and one of my employees, he was at tech

(03:42):
at the time. He left very medicine, but we kept
the tides great guy anyway. He took the brother. It
liter Bates and so the brother started fourteen and he
is doing great. So that's good, I say. I told
the story. I said, keep it, keep it going, all right.
I get a cat off the street, all right? And

(04:02):
is one fr to be sufficient? Does it need another
in a month for older cats? Our shelters unsure? Okay,
here's the thing with cats. First of all, if you
have cats and they're indoor only, meaning they're not gonna
be subjected to rabies and feed la in leukemia. If
you live in a state where rabies is not required
for cats, don't give it for an indoor cat. Don't

(04:24):
give leukemi vaccines for indoor only casts. What I mean
interor only if you walk your cat in a stroller
on a harness, we're with it. That counts as indoor only.
What I mean in our outdoor ones that are left
freedoome outside. Here's why, because we do, we have something
called feline vaccine to douce sarcoma. It's a tumor, which
is why we only vaccinate cash now in the thighs,

(04:45):
and there's no treatment for that tumor. You could remove it,
it's gonna come back. The only way you can really
remove it, which is why we give it the thighs,
is we can amputate the limb that we've given the shot.
And it's a back, thigh, back leg and they do fine.
Three layered cats do fine. But don't give a vaccine
to a cat that is not going to be subjected
to the disease. So, now, having said that, there's something

(05:06):
called an amnemnistic response, that's a memory response, which is
why in most vaccines we usually give two. We do
the first and we follow up a month. Now, if
you start as a puppy, your kitten, I like for
dogs eight twelve sixteen ideal. You don't want to finish
the series much for fifteen weeks because the body's own
immune system is not geared up yet to make that

(05:27):
long term immunity less than fifteen weeks of age. So
I'll go up fifteen. You know, some people go seven
eleven fifteen. I can buy it. I prefer eight twelve sixteen.
Cats they say do have that ability. So many people
advocate just two eight and twelve. I am a little
bit more cautious, but I will then after that, I

(05:48):
will tighter. Okay, So if you do have the ability
to tighter, and you don't want your you're hesitant to
give a shot, then do it tighter. It's a blood
test will measure existing antibody. Now what about the stray.
You have no history whatsoever. You have no idea if
it ever even had one vaccine. The recommendation is to
do two a month apart, just to make sure you

(06:09):
prime the immune system with the first shot, and then
you do that memory response with a second that will
give them that long term protection cats over a year.
That second shot is probably good for three years. So
again you need to check with your local authorities. You're veterinarian,
but that is my recommendation. Now, could you get away
with only one in adult animal if you have no
idea of history, Yeah you can. If you really don't

(06:32):
want to give that second, do it tight, do the
first one, wait about a month, and do it tighter.
If that tighter is really high, showing that you sell
out protection, then that means either the cat's immune system
was good enough, or it did have at least one
shot oils out of the street or before it hit
the street, before it became a quote unquote straight cat.
So hopefully that's the answer. And good question. By the way,

(06:56):
am I taking what?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yes, I've talked about Ali Dad. We didn't have to
say goodbye, you know me. I felt that he was
suffering and once they stop eating, you know you hear
my criteria. We've talked about this before, just things to
think about. There is no when I tell clients this
is not the question answer. This is just I want
you to be pride to think about it, okay, And
that is first of all, are they enjoying life? Is

(07:19):
there something still get excites them, whether it's a walk,
whether it's food, whether it's just that they really get
when you come home, they so run up to you
and one cuddles. Okay. Number two would be are they
still eating? That's the most of that's very important. If
they're not eating, then is time? Okay. Number three I
love this one. Are they living or are they just existing?

(07:39):
I mean the heart could be pumping, but are they
really living? And are they in pain? If they're in
pain and you can't solve the pain, then it's time.
So you know, you can make a mistake. You can't
make a mistake by saying goodbye a little bit too early,
but you can make a terrible mistake by waiting too long.
So don't wait too much. That's the most important thing
you want, Hey, Jeff, you want to make sure that

(08:00):
they are the least comfortable. Because one thing that when
I go into rescue a pet, I know one thing
for a fact. I mean, as long as I stay healthy,
I'm going to outlive them. I mean unless I rescue
a puppy when I'm ninety, and hopefully i'll hit ninety,
then of course that dog might outlive me. Now, when
I get a parrot at fifty, no, because they're going

(08:23):
to live seventy years. So make sure your kids like
birds as much as you do. If you're thinking I'm
getting a parrot, or I'm a call or any of
the citizens, the Large Beach citizens, they live quite a while.
Thanks JB. I really appreciate it. So anyway, I hope
you guys are staying cool.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Here in LA.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
We had a big heat wave and my daughter knows someone.
This is a terrible story, but I need to share
it because it happens. Young couple kids, Right, there's commotion.
They have the dog in the car and the husband
thinks the wife's going to get the dog, thinks the wife.
They bring the baby inside and life goes on. All
of a sudden. Two hours later, where's where's the dog? Oh?

(09:03):
Oh my god? They rent to the car. The dog
was literally it was over one hundred and ten degrees
in the car. The dog was probably a techers temperature.
It was one hundred and seven degrees panting, I mean really,
and they tried to cool it down, water it down,
and the poor thing died. That is terrible. So it's

(09:23):
almost like you hear these stories about kids falling into
a pool, n staff and thumb it is. It happens.
Crap happens, and everyone thinks the other one knows about it,
and we have a poolgate around ours because you never know.
It's always the one person thinks the other person's got
it covered. That person thinks the other person has it covered.

(09:44):
Before you know it, nobody hasn't covered. And that's how
these accidents happen. So I feel the same way. The
recommendation is never leave your dog alone in a park car,
even with the windows down, even in the shade, even
in a parking structure, even with the air gonna show.
It's unbelievable because why they freak out. They get panicked sometimes. Now,
if they were calm, it probably would be fine. But

(10:05):
when they start panting, what happens? What's coming out of
their mouth? What's the temperature of that breath? It's their
body temperature one hundred two degrees by the time the
car might be one hundred and three, one hundred and four,
and so they are basically regardless of what's going on
outside that car. If the windows are up or even
just cracked a little bit, which most people, they don't
leave it open because they've read the dog's going to
jump out. So then you're looking at a really bad situation.

(10:29):
And that temperature in the car can just jump up
so fast, so don't count on luck. All right, any
other question, let me see what we got here, Shannon?
How are you good? Friend of you? Oh Zebek? So
here's small dog has been shaking since Friday after going
to the dog park. He walks oddly, he's pooping, eating
all right, So a couple of questions. Number one, I

(10:50):
need to know how old is this dog? And what
has been his condition before all this happened? Was healthy,
eating well? Is he very old? Was being at the
park too much for him? It was very hot out
there as we know, so how active was he at
the park? So these are all things I need to
know because is it shaking from pain, from anxiety, from excitement?

(11:13):
They shake for a lot of different reasons there are.
And if it was just a single episode, believe it
or not, dogs and have petant mall seizures, all right,
and that could be, but those are episodes. That's not
continuous shaking. So he is seven turning eight. So if
you can we can do this after the show. I
know you're a friend of my sisters. You can send

(11:34):
me a video of the dog because picture's worth a
thousand words. A live video is worth one hundred thousand words.
It really would help me to see what it looks like,
what's going on. And then I want to know is
the dog eating If you're calling out to go out
for a walk or something, will you get excited and
we want to do it, or is it just sitting
around not wanting to move, very depressed. You need to

(11:54):
take his temperature. You get a rectal thermometer. Everybody out there,
you should have a thermometer for your packs. You get
a rectal thermometer. You can get it could be any
kind of digital thermometer. Save it for your pet. Put
to the pet drawer. All right. I don't want you
sticking nothing in your mouth, and don't do that. And
take your temperature. It's very important because that tells us
a lot. Especially the dog is shaking. If they're very

(12:16):
high fever, that could be a problem. All right, So
he walks o that he's pooping, eating pink like normal,
avoid walking, Yeah, so that could be pain This could
be a painting if he's still eating but avoids walking.
It's happened after a day at the park. He could
have twisted turned something and one of the things they
do when they are in pain. They will shiver, that
will shake. So there are some things we can do

(12:36):
in a pinch. And I need you to know how
much he weighs, and then we'll talk, all right. Michelle
nine year old porter and the loss of appetite was
licking the ground. Took her to the vet and next
encies had something didn't endosca being removed a large hairball.
All right, but doing procedure, are we done? Or is
in more to it? They saw something didn't endoscopy and
removed a large hairball, but during procedure. So hello, Blair,

(13:00):
I hope you don't mind, Blair. I'm going to read
your note because I've often talked about First of all,
thank you very much. That was really sweet. I'll share
this with you guys because I think about this often
as I talk to veteran arians that it's a good
question for you guys as well. This kind of a
little philosophical sometimes this is my soapboxed. I get to
be a little philosophical sometimes, but I think it's important

(13:22):
in life, really is. So we'll talk about this after
the break, all right. I just adopted Astray nine as
the allergies off, it's scratching in her face. Can't go
with the allergy. What's the best allergaye medicine. Ah, So
it really depends when they're scratching at their face, looking
at their feet? All right, ears, fate feast ears. I
always think there's a possibility it's one of those fifteen

(13:42):
to twenty percent of dogs that actually have food allergies.
The most common food allergens are beef and poultry, so
chicken and turkey and duck is fine. So what I
recommend we really have to delve into this a little bit.
Is it seasonal? Is it not seasonal? Are you seeing
les in and scratches and sores on the body? Are
the teeth if it's rubbing the face, how are the teeth?

(14:04):
If the teeth have a lot of plaque and tartar
nine years old? All right, that's very possible. It causes
so well, how do they can't scratch their gums? So
what they do is they rub their face. So these
are all things that need to be seen. And I
don't know when the last time the dog had a
thorough exam, but should have an examination and see really
what is the problem and have you changed foods? How
long this has been going on? All right? If it's seasonal,

(14:27):
if this happens during spring and summer, and that is
most likely pollen analogies, So there's a lot to look at.
This is one of those cases where you know it's
a stray dog, you don't know much about it, so
you don't know whether it's seasonal. You don't know what food.
Have you changed the food since you adopted? Is to
gain the same food that it was being given? As
they said, are there lesions? Etc. So these are things
we have to know so when we come back, I

(14:49):
have a philosophical question for you. All they're not pernossily
pet related, though of course pets could come into the equation,
so just because of how we love them. So not overheated? Good?
All right, so he does eat Itazzan, how are you
marcell ha? Ok okay, so a seven pound dog you
only never says? Okay, that's good. We have some things

(15:10):
to talk about now, all right, So no lesions, so interesting,
So that means that it could be just a habit.
I would check the mouth and also think about food allergies.
We'll talk about that after the break. Don't go away,
We're going to talk to somebody about philosophically, and I
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All right, knock, you're live on boat. So okay, when
they moved the hairball, she went hypoxic. They changed the tube,
did X rays center clariolage works. They're looking at the
ground and choking. So what happened? All right, pelosilvester did
they were able to help? That's very strange. First of all,
something's going on. There's something maybe at the back of
that throat. Obviously there's more to be tested on that.

(16:53):
So my little philosophical discussion I talk about this young
veteran wannabes and I lecture and what I talk about
really is success. Think about success? I mean some people,
when you say you're describing somebody who makes a lot
of money, what term do we use? Oh, they're hugely successful?
Are they really? What is success? Is it money? So

(17:14):
success for many people mean different things, and I'm just curious.
I know it's very philosophical. What does it mean when
someone says I've achieved success? So yeah, for some it's money, absolutely,
for someone to a comma a peaceful life. For some people,
it's plenty of time to work, just to survive, to
make go on vacations, because that's if they're successful, if

(17:34):
they get to take a lot of vacations, see the world,
whatever it is. So, you know, for me, I define
success as my successfully impacting young doctors, young students. And
also when I'm now taking care of the grandchildren of
clients that I had when I started forty plus years ago,

(17:54):
that to me, that's success because I know I did
something right. The fact that their kids came and see
me and now their kids are seeing me, So that
is success. So anyway, where's this coming from? And the
woman who wrote this happens to be here. I don't
know if you're still there, Blair, but so a good
friend of you know, we've talked about Vicky, she's been
on our show from Eloui's Rescue. She sends me a

(18:16):
friend of hers whose daughter is interested in veterana medicine.
She's in high school, going into a third year, and
I know as long as they're sixteen they can volunteer.
And just so anyone who knows, who knows somebody is
interested in a career in veteran in medicine, you are
looking at at least a thousand hours of work experience
just to apply. That is a kick. If you have

(18:37):
two a students, one's got, you know, two hundred and
three hundred hours. One is a thousand, it's going to
one thousand. So you really know it's important too early on,
when you're even thinking about it, start volunteering, doing some work,
doing something with animals. So Blake Blair's daughter, I know,
it's confusing, comes in charming little girl now so little actually,

(18:58):
and it's very tall, and she is just so into this.
This is what she's wanted to do, and I always
asked her, are you o, Kevin, Because for some if
they've never really been in this situation before, and they
see it, they see the stress, they see the insanity
in my hospital, they see the surgeries for the first time,
and they see bleeding, and they go how many times

(19:20):
they see a euth in Asia. I've spoken to so
many people is how I wanted to do this when
I was little, But then I saw then you have
to put animals to sleep. That could be a game changer,
It could be a deal breaker. Absolutely. So anyway, apparently
Blake is enjoying it. I get this from her. Mom
loved this. This to me is success. When someone asked Blake,
who is your role model or the person that had

(19:42):
had the most profound effect upon her life, it will
be you. I kind of tell you what a tremendous
impact you have had on her life, especially going into
a junior year. You have given her the fuel for
her drive and fire. Thank you for the bottom of
my heart. I truly cannot express my gratitude enough. Much
love Blair. So that to me, if I alread to
say what is success, that's success when you have done

(20:05):
something that impacts somebody else so well, and you can
continually do this. I have right now, right now, five
of my former employee or volunteer texts or veteran assistance
in veterinary school. That's success. So the fast that I
just scare them away fast half because a lot of
times they see what it's like and they see how

(20:27):
crazy busy it is. They realize, oh my god, I
don't want to do this, But no, it is. It's true.
It's you know, for me, I'm having the most fun.
Okay for attic, had teeth been cleaned and has blood work?
I have had it for only three months. So if
it was a diet change, or if there's here's another thing.
If there's no scratches, no irritation, no redness on the

(20:49):
muscle where you're rubbing the face, and the teeth are clean,
before you go crazy and start the most one of
the more difficult things to do, and that is a
modified it's called the elimination diet. Why not just to
chalk it up to I like, just rub my face.
Ask a nail biter why they bite their nails. Ask
a thumb sucker why they sucked the thumb. Right, everybody

(21:12):
has their quirks that they just find some piece. And
if some dogs feel a little something in their muzzle
and love to rub it against the carpet, then it
could be that, so you might I don't want you
knocking yourself out with an elimination I'm finding out all
it was, it's why'd you do it? Because I like it?
So it could be that as well. But if you
really wanted to get into it, you can try to

(21:33):
do some elimination diet. And that is you really really
want to get a rare, unusual, novel protein with a
grain they've never had before, So stay away from rice, corn,
and wheat. That every food has one of those, and
you want to go quinoa, barley, oats or green pea
or sweet potato, something else in there forget to get
the carbs and see if that works. I wanted to

(21:56):
produce dry cat in a factory. One are of the
best you know? Try? Oh, I would assume I cat food.
So this is a question. I can line you up
with a board certified veteran nutritionist. These are veterinarians that
I've gone through a three year residency in nutrition. They
used to be ward certified by the ACVN American College
of Vegannutrition which is now part of the American College

(22:18):
of Veteran Internal Medicine. So just like oncology, just like neurology, okay,
and just like cardiology, which were three subspecialties under internal medicine.
Now that added nutrition. So I do work with one
or two veteran nutritionists and that would be the same thing.
There will be a consulting fee, that's how they make
their living, but they can help you design and then

(22:41):
they're also if you want to check on the veterinary schools,
and now you have like the thirty nine to check
up with. Back in my day they were twenty four
and some of them actually have in their nutrition department
this service where they can help somebody develop a home
cooked diet that is balanced and healthy. Yeah, that is
if you live a happy life doing what you can.

(23:02):
So I figure, by the way, Blair love the sweatshirt.
I don't know where I could wear it, but by
the way, it's a sweatshirt that says I don't even
know if I can repeat it here because I'm on
a pet life figure tho in an Instagram. I don't
know what you'd say, but basically it says you can
get it says Effen legendary. Anyway, I thought that was
really cute. All right, so thank you Janice, thank you.

(23:26):
I appreciate that. All right. Fortunear old cat has a
running right eye for a few months, have been flushed it, okay,
so that definitely needs to be seen. That could be
as simple as some cats as well as dogs, will
get a plugged tear duct. So the tearing usually goes
to a duct and it comes out out of the nose.
You don't even notice it. One thing we can do

(23:47):
simply is we do what's called the fluoresceine eye stain.
We take the fluorescine dye that we use to determine
it for an ulcer if there's a cornial ulcer or
corneal scratch or corneal irritation, and we can take the
black light and wash the nose. If green drops come
out of the nose, we know that everything is working well.

(24:08):
But if we have green covering out of one side
and nothing coming out of the side where there's running
the tears are running over the lid and staining the face,
then we know we have a plug tear duck. And
we can try to unplug it. Sometimes you have to
create a new canula. The opening called the canula gets
covered up with tissue and we got to break through it.

(24:28):
And if all fails, you can't open it. We live
with it. It's not dangerous as long as the discharge is
clear tears. Now, if it was thick and mucacy, then
we might have a conjuncti bis. We'd have to do
an ice stain anyway, because we have to determine what
medication might be safe to treat the conjunctiviis. Then if
there is a conductive itis and a corneal irritation, we

(24:51):
can't use anything with steroids. But if the corny is
clear and it's just an infection, there are some really
good medications we can use to help clear up the infection.
All right, Now, flush the tear ducks or flush the eye.
That would need to know. If they flushed the tear
ducks then they were able to flush them then and
the eye is clean, I'd use a steroid drop and
see if you can decrease inflammation. So I think I've

(25:14):
got to everybody's question. I hope I did. If I didn't,
you can always get a hold of meeting. So Michelle,
what was the final you a hypoxic's cardiologists? Are they
unmanaged to the cardiocs find anything choking licking the ground. Well,
I want to find out what else happened, So please
reach out to me and nausey if you want information.
You can reach me after the show here on Instagram

(25:34):
and I can put you in touch with one of
the board shortified linerarting nutritionists that I know, and they
can help you develop the food, which is what you
seem to want to do. All right, all right, I
hope I caught everybody. I hope I got your questions.
If I didn't, then just you know not how to
get a hold of me. You can reach me on
air vet a facult air vot would just side on yelp. Actually,
now the fun thing is going to be will yelp.

(25:55):
Now that they are partnering with US and providing air
vet to their employees, if somebody complains about us at
that air vet, are they going to last it? I'm
yelp because it's like wait time, man, do you want
to do that? We're helping your employees where you're going
to bury us now? So we'll have to see. I
don't know if yelp has the same impact. I think
everybody knows now that the people that mostly complain are complainers.

(26:17):
They're going to complain up anything. So I used to
answer them. I used to try to be really nice
and apologize. It's not worth my time, really, isn't Most
people now know that yelp or a bunch of complainers.
In fact, when I sometimes see someone come in in
the office, new client, I said, you hear about this? Like,
oh I saw him yelp, yelp, what do you do

(26:38):
you need classes? Do you not read? How can you
come in after some of the things that people say.
So anyway, I don't pay much attention to it anymore
because if people want to not come, my clients still
do come will be thrilled because they only have to
wait twenty minutes or thirty or forty minutes instead of
an hour and a half. So anyway, and those of

(26:59):
you who hang in there with me, you know what
I mean. All right, anyway, great joining me. Let me
see next Sunday. I'm gonna be here in the Sunday
after that, on the thirteenth, I think in the fourteenth
I'm gonna try. I may, if it's okay with everybody,
do my show at ten instead of nine. And also Mark,
let me know because I'm going to AHA American Animal
Hospital Association Convention, flying back early Sunday morning. I think

(27:22):
I land at eight, eight thirty or something, so maybe
I'll do a show at ten. If that would be okay, you'll.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Let me know.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
And if that's okay with you, guys, I know from
if you're back east, it's it's one o'clock. You may
have better things to do and listen to me, but
just give me a thumbs up during the week, Just
send me thumbs out there that I'll be okay. Otherwise
we'll just do it the falling week. All right, again,
thanks for joining me. I have a wonderful week everybody. Again,
if you have any questions during the week, you don't
wait till Sunday. You reach out to me and I'll
do help you as best and as fast as I can.

(27:51):
Take care. Bye.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
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