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June 21, 2023 43 mins

Osha Hayden interviews Andrew Boyd, author of I Want a Better Catastrophe: Navigating the Climate Crisis with Grief, Hope, and Gallows Humor.


As the earth passes the tipping point of 1.5°C, and slides into floods, droughts, melting ice caps, and the mass extinction of species, many of us are trying to reckon with feelings of anxiety and despair.  The science is crystal clear, and yet the fossil fuel companies continue to drill for more and more oil. How do we navigate the climate emergency and come to terms with the catastrophic consequences of humanity’s inaction? How do we remain engaged in working to make a difference? Is there still hope?  Could you use a guide to the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it?


In his new book, I Want a Better Catastrophe: Navigating the Climate Crisis with Grief, Hope, and Gallows Humor, veteran activist, thinker, doer, storyteller, and CEO of the Climate Clock,  Andrew Boyd navigates between the denial and doom many of us feel to find a third way of approaching our situation: courageously facing the data and its ramifications, and helping people imagine what’s still possible and where we might still exercise agency. You may be thinking, “Oh, no, this is going to be depressing - but my guest, Andrew Boyd, brings, wit, wisdom and gallows humor to our existential questions.


Andrew Boyd interviewed 8 leading climate thinkers and heard a whole range of responses to the existential dilemma of the Climate Crisis. In this interview, he shares some of the insights that surfaced.   

Some topics that came up in this lively discussion:

Where are we now and where are we headed as the climate crisis worsens?

How to hope: 4 types of hope

4 paths of decline

Economic realities

The role of community and equity

Challenges and gifts

Finding inspiration and even humor

Moving forward with renewed hope

https://bettercatastrophe.com/
https://andrewboyd.com/
https://www.theclimateribbon.org/
https://climateclock.world/

“It always seems impossible until it’s done.” Nelson Mandela


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