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Hi, everyone, Welcome back to another episode of Astrology with Alice.
I'm your host, Alice Bell, and today we're discussing a
topic I've wanted to explore for a while now, which
is how to navigate career changes with astrology. And the
reason I really wanted to get into this is because
in my own personal life, I've noticed, through like this
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business and even beforehand, how there would be certain cycles
that I'd go through where there were years where I'd
feel really stuck in my career, and then years where
things would turn around and I'd find direction again, and
then the whole process would start over. Mean, I know
through my readings I give with people, and just like
talking to friends and people, I know that career is
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a topic that's on everyone's mind and kind of trying
to figure out when there might be a change at
work or when you might be going through this bigger
transformation with what you want to do in your career
or your overall life calling that's just like a topic
that fascinates me, and I love pinning down those cycles
and the timing of it. So that's what I want
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to do in this episode today, is explore what transits
you should be watching to see when you're being asked
to go through a bigger career change, and also like
when things might feel kind of stagnant or you feel
stuck in a role and it might feel like that
phase is never going to end for you, but I
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kind of want to show you how that's not the case,
and like these cycles come back around every several years
and offer you this new opportunity for growth and pivoting
at work. So, yeah, today we're going to be going
over important transits to look for when spotting career change
in your chart, and also just general planetary cycles that
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may show when it's time for a reset or even
just like refreshing some aspect of what you're currently doing
in your own business or in your role at a company.
And outside of this episode, if you're interested in going
further and exploring your chart in different ways in regards
to career and work and money, I have a whole
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section on my substack channel, Astrology with Alice, where I
go into different career topics like how to interpret career
interest based on your birth chart, or what does your
mid heaven mean? Or how to spot ways in which
you could be good at making money based on your chart.
So if you're interested in exploring topics like these further,
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you can always find me on substack. And before we
get into the topic for today, just wanted to make
the announcement that Libra Season monthly horoscopes are coming out
on substack in a few days. I'll also be covering
all of the relevant transits for Libra season here on
the podcast. But if you want to know the breakdown
of what all of the transits for the next month
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mean for your specific rising sign, and I go about
twenty to twenty five hundred words written out per rising.
If you want to have that written guide, that's also
over on substacks, So that'll be out September twenty second,
And you can also listen here on the podcast for
a general overview of the Libre season transits. So before
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we get into timing with your chart and timing career
change and bigger transitions like that, I want to rewind
a bit and just go over the career oriented houses
of your chart and how you can differentiate between those.
So when I'm looking at the chart and I'm noticing
areas that pertain to work and career, I'm really zooming
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in on the second house, the sixth house, and also
the tenth house and the mid Heaven, and I use
whole sign houses, so sometimes the mid Heaven can be
in the ninth, the eleventh, the tenth, in rare cases
the eighth or twelfth. But that's a very core part
of the chart that relates back to work too. So
I want to run through themes that you can associate
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with each of these houses to know the difference in
when transits come along and activate these different houses. How yes,
there's changes with work with all of them, but it's
felt in a different way because the topics of each
house are they vary. So starting things off with this
second house, this is the house of the chart that
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specifically relates back to money and how you want to
be making money and the everyday work that you're doing
to make an income for yourself. I also think of
the second house as very self starting type work, like
wanting to leave a company to go start your own
business or taking on freelance projects. On this side, there's
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an element of this house that asks you to have
greater independence and flexibility with your work, and it's also
about finding the skills that you want to put forth
and like how you assert yourself in your role and
having greater confidence in your working skills and knowing that
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those skills and what you bring to the table at
work are worth a set amount of money. And I
find with the second house, the more confidence you do have,
and like the longer you've been working and in business,
it's like uncovering those traits becomes easier and asking for
what you're worth in your career, like tapping into that
just gets easier over time. And then to move on
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to the sixth house, this is work that is mostly
done for other people or with other people, So I
associate coworker relationships with the six house or client based work.
If you either if you work for yourself or you
work for a company, it's like doing work that serves
other people in some way, and sometimes that can literally
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be about finding work that makes a difference in other
people's life and being of service through the work that
you're doing, or like on a more minor scale, could
be like having to pick up the slack for someone
you work for, or having to juggle a lot of
different smaller projects for clients or for co workers and
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feeling like I don't know, there's this element of the
six House, where work can sometimes feel very tedious and
like it's not advancing you to that next new chapter
of your career. But I like to reframe this and
think of the six House in terms of these are
necessary skills and communication type things that you need to
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figure out with work first, so that you have those
skills moving forward in the future. And even if it
feels super boring and tedious in the moment, you'll be
glad you had like those experiences with the six House
once you move into bigger projects or a bigger role
at work. And one last thing I'll say about the
six House is that it is also about finding this
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balance between like how much do I want to work
whereas how much time do I want to reserve for
my personal life or my mental health, and trying to
strike a healthy balance between the two so that you're
not overworking your self and doing too much for other
people at the expense of your own self. And then
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the tenth House, and you can also bring the mid
Heaven in with the themes that we're about to talk
about here, but the tenth House is the house that
really speaks to these bigger, long term career goals that
you're working towards or like your overall passion in life,
and timing activations to the tenth house really bring up
this feeling of what do I want to be committing
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to for the next several years, Like what's my niche
in my career? How can I develop better leadership skills
or take on a more public facing role at work.
It's really about being seen and having the public being
made aware of what you're doing in your career. So
usually transits to the tenth house are these bigger moments
with work where you're getting that big break or you're
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pivoting to another career path altogether that feels more fulfilling.
I would also say maybe there's ways in which you
want to educate yourself so that you can further advance
in your career. All of that we see come up
with transits to the tenth or the mid heaven. So
now that we've gone over parts of the chart that
relate back to work and money, I want to explore
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specific transits that really point to when you're being asked
to change something at work, and that could be something
more minor, like how you go about your day, like
what we talked about with the six house, or it
could be something a bit more major where you want
to leave one career path behind altogether to do something
else with your life. So first I want to zoom
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in on the transits of the north and South nodes.
And I know in the last episode we went over
the nodes and how they relate back to eclipses so
much in depth, so that honestly might be good to
re listen to to get a further picture of how
the nodes function. But for now, we're going to talk
about how nodes and therefore eclipses relate to changes in career.
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And the transits of the nodes always signal where you're
going through the biggest change and more significant developments in
your life. So when they start to enter these workhouses
the second, the sixth, and the tenth, usually you're in
for bigger changes about to happen with work. And it's
also important to remember that the nodes move backwards through
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the signs and the houses, so it's it can be
interesting to look at like, Okay, what houses are the
nodes transiting through before they make it to one of
the career houses. So, for instance, before the North and
South nodes move into the second and eighth houses, which
would signal a time of wanting to maybe start your
own business or have greater independence at your job, or
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find ways to bring in extra income for yourself. We
have to look back and see, Okay, the nodes are
coming from the third and ninth houses right before that,
so maybe there's necessary education or training that's picked up
or skills that are learned which you then can use
to apply to building out something related to business or
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advancing in your career and making more money for yourself.
So yeah, I just gave the explanation of what happens
when nodes move through the second and eighth This has
a lot to do with changing of finances and finding
alternative sources of income, or if you already work for yourself,
when this transit comes along, there can be something where
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you have to build something bigger in your business or
change up how you structure the way you run your business.
And if you have no interest in being self employed
and you're currently at a company, this nodes through the
second and eighth, it really brings up this feeling of
do I feel appreciated at my job? Do I feel
paid enough? And if not, if there's not room for growth.
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In that way, maybe this is a time to search
for new career opportunities that do give you that paycheck
you want, or that flexibility or that, I don't know,
even that opening to speak up at team meetings and
feel like your ideas are being valued. And then when
the nodes move into the six and twelfth houses, those
bring up the topics we just went over with the
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sixth house, where it's like, Okay, maybe there's certain aspects
of my routine and my schedule that I want to
shift so that I have better balance with work, or
how how might there be something in my career or
another job that I feel like I have a deeper
emotional connection to or I'm making a difference for other people,
or just work that feels more meaningful to me. So
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those can be themes that come up with this Nodle transit.
But also like looking back, Okay, the nodes were in
the first and seventh houses before they moved over to
the six and twelfth, so maybe they were really important
new interests that you started to develop, especially with the
first house eclipses, and maybe those new interests that you
picked up informed you uncovering these different aspects of yourself
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and maybe it felt like certain parts of your identity
were shifting. And now because you feel different as a
person as a result of those first house eclipses, now
it's like, Okay, I'm may be more interested, i may
be interested in different things when it comes to my career,
which prompts that desire to make a change at work.
And also, like coming off of the first and seventh
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house eclipses, that's usually a year and a half to
two year long period where you've gone through these major
life changes in general, Like maybe that has to do
with moving to a different city or like I just said,
kind of figuring out different sides to your identity, or
could even have to do with something as major as
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having a baby for instance. And then that leads to, Okay,
how do we structure my routine differently now that I'm
in a new place or I have this new sense
of self, or now I have a child I'm taking
care of, And how does work look different? Like how
is that changing what I want my work to look
like every day? And then as well, like when the
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nodes move into the tenth and fourth houses of your chart,
that's going to be a huge two year period where
it brings up those tenth House topics of like what
am I actually passionate about in my career? How can
I change things moving forward for the long term, how
do I want to be known in my work? Or
is there a specific niche I can pivot into. Yeah,
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I would say like the tenth House eclipses specifically bring
up these more more dramatic changes that go on in
your career, But then tenth thousand eclipses can also be
this time of feeling more seen because of the work
that you're doing and getting that attention that you've wanted
in your career for a while now. So also again
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like looking back at like what comes before the tenth
fourth House eclipses, Well, the nodes would have been in
the fifth and eleventh houses, so maybe that was a
time of rediscovering creativity, networking, forming new friendships, new community,
building self confidence in what you have to offer. And
then as they pivot into the tenth and fourth it's like, well,
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specifically the tenth because we're talking about career stuff here,
it's like, how can I bring my personal creativity into
my work in a bigger way, or how are those
connections in that community I set up with the eleventh
house eclipses, how is that now the people I met,
how might they be introducing me to bigger work opportunities
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or how am I building a bigger audience for my business?
And also it's always important to keep in mind that
when the nodes first, and are these career houses like
the first six months or maybe even a year of them,
being in the second six tenth or approaching the mid heaven,
that's going to be the most that's going to be
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the most challenging in terms of like regaining your footing
with career. And it may feel like, Okay, I really
want to make a change in this part of my life,
but maybe that change hasn't quite played out yet or
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it is
I want in this area of my life. So like
going back to like Virgo Pisce's eclipses, now they're still
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like at the beginning of this eclipse cycle kind of
about to reach the halfway point. And I noticed that
as eclipses wrap up in these career houses, that's when
it's like, Okay, I'm seeing the full picture now of
what I want in my career or the changes are
finally happening, and I feel a lot better about this
area of my life. So kind of the start of
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an eclipse cycle is harder, while the end of it
is that like push that maybe you've been waiting for
for a while. Now, I want to switch gears and
talk about Saturn for a little so as where eclipses
and the nodes indicate where there's a lot of change
going on in these bigger developments and transformation. When Saturn
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in ours these same career houses of your chart second
six tenth or goes over the exact degree of your
mid heaven angle, things at work may feel very slow
down or frustrating. And I noticed that the second Saturn
enters this new sign in this new house of your chart,
the first few months of it being there, or that
initial kind of phase of it before it goes retrograde
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for the first time in that new house, it could
be like, wait, why is what I've been doing in
my career up until this point, Why does it make
me feel stuck or slowed down now? Or why is
it requiring so much extra effort to get things done
in this part of my life? And because Saturn spends
two and a half to three years transitting through a
sign in house of your chart. You'll spend that amount
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of time restructuring certain elements of your own business or
finding self confidence at work and learning how to assert
yourself better or ask for better pay at your job.
Whereas Saturn entering the six maybe you feel so wayed
down and overwhelmed by your workload and kind of stressed
out by the people that you work with, or that
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your work just doesn't have that deeper meaning to you
that it once did, and you spend that two and
a half years of Satura and through the six trying
to figure out, like what speaks to me more at
work and once again returning to the six house topics,
how can I do work that helps other people in
some way or have that better everyday work life balance
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for myself? And then of course Saturn entering the tenth
or moving over the mid Heaven can ask you to
figure out what you're truly passionate about at work, or
how you might pivot in a different direction altogether in
your career. Or it could be a great time of
taking on greater responsibilities and stepping into a leadership role.
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However that could feel stressful at first as you adjust
to a role where you're in charge of a lot
more or there's a lot more weight on you coming
from your career. But yeah, it's always important to remember
with Saturn, like what feels frustrating and stuck at first, slowly,
over that two and a half year transit, that's an
area that you're gaining a mastery over. So by the
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end of that Saturn transit through a house, you can
expect to feel like you've built something a lot more concrete,
that feels more in line with who you are, and
that will serve you for the years to come. Also,
when it comes to these more dramatic career shifts, we
can look at these outer planet transits like Uranus, Neptune,
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and Pluto, but with them because their transits occur over
such a longer period of time, I really want to
stress the importance of like when a planet like Saturn
or one of the North and South nodes meets up
with these longer transits and triggers it more fully, like
for instance, when the North node moves to Aquarius next
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year and starts to meet up with Pluto and Aquarius.
If Aquarius happens to rule a career oriented house of
your chart, like that's when you're really going to feel
the effects of Pluto there because an eclipse has come
along and met up with it. It's also important to
look at when do they reach the exact degree of
your midhad or you're ascendant, because those two angles of
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the chart, and even if they're aspecting them by like
an opposition or a square, meaning they're on the ic
or the descendant and squaring them from another house of
the chart, when these longer transits meet up with the angles,
this can signal bigger changes in your sense of identity
or overall life direction, which can lead you down a
different career path altogether. So like, for instance, when you're
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honest met up with my mid heaven degree in twenty nineteen,
I have a four degree Taurus mid heaven. That was
when I left my job in fashion to be an
astrologer full time. And that was a very sudden change.
Because it's your honest, which is all about kind of
unanticipated events or a series of sudden changes one after
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the other. So you're really taking what are the qualities
of that longer transit, So with your honest, it's change
with Neptune, it can be a lot of confusion or
dissolving something that once were but no longer does in
order to find something more spiritual or creative. Or with Pluto,
it can be totally leaving something behind, like the death
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of one identity or one career path in order to
find something more fulfilling. Or it could be about bringing
your personal power into your work. So really important to
note when any of those transits come into contact with
Ascendant or mid Heaven and how that might be informing
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how you want to change something about yourself and your career.
And finally, I want to wrap up this episode by
talking in general about the cycles of Mars and Saturn,
because personally in my own career, I notice every two
to three years or so, I feel this desire to
make a change with what I'm doing with work. Even
if it's not something as dramatic as changing career paths
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altogether or completely changing my own business, it's still I notice.
Mars and Saturn really show when you may want to
pivot in a certain area or have like a refresh
on what you're doing and just kind of like new
energy needs to come in. So Mars has a little
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over two year cycle as it makes its way through
all twelve signs of the zodiac, so a little over
two years for Mars to return to the same sign
and house of your chart. But if you look at
this in terms of work, like when you started a
role in your career, or when you launched your own business,
or even when you launch an element of your business
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like a podcast to promote your business or a newsletter,
then two years on from the launch or starting in
that new role, you may feel this desire to press
the reset button or make a minor change or refresh
something about your work. Because Mars really shows what your motive,
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what drives you, what you're motivated to put energy towards,
and every two years that might change a bit and
you could feel motivated by different areas. So that's just
really important noting exact dates of work launches and how
they evolve over time into year increments. And then we
can also take this on a larger scale and look
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at the cycles of Saturn and how Saturn makes aspects
to its natal placement every seven years. So in work,
if you know that you started and a roller started
your business at in a certain year, then seven years
on from that, and then seven years after that again,
and so on and so forth there might be this
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bigger need to restructure something about it in seven year increment.
So it's actually so indersing. I started this astrology business
exactly seven years ago, and this whole year has been
about finding ways to restructure my business. And I feel
like I'm stepping more into a role of teaching and
away from maybe some of the other elements that I
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used to do in my career. So even though I'm
not going anywhere, I'm still in astrology. I love putting
out content. It's like certain elements of my business needed
to be restructured at this seven year marker. And also, yeah,
going back two years and seven years just very important
key time frames to note throughout your career and how
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things evolve like in those types of patterns. Okay, that's
all I had for today, but thank you again for listening.
And like I said at the start, if you're interested
in exploring the topic of career and your birth chart
further or timing that involves career, I have several different
articles about those topics over on substacks, so feel free
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to check it out there. If not, I'll see you
back here in a few days for the Libra season.
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