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(00:07):
This is at the extremes. Beloved, welcome back to At the
Extremes, the podcast where we discuss the extremes in our
society and how we got here. As always, we are your host.
I'm Greg and I'm Serge, and today we're going to be shining
out the week that was. But before we get into all of

(00:28):
that, Sergio, why don't you hit me with a silver lining, bud?
So my silver lining first started off as kind of a
diarrhea stain on the sheets. What?
Yeah, so yesterday was my school's prom.
And so they had their prom out in undisclosed location,

(00:54):
Baltimore County. But as you know, the weather was
crazy yesterday and the prom started right around where the
when the weather was getting crazy.
And so when I first started driving up, I was going the
route that I was taking and there's wires down.
There was an electrical fire up by 695.

(01:16):
You could see the where the power lines were out.
I was going to take the turn to go one place and the whole tree
had fallen down and blocked the road.
So I turned around and then there was other wires down.
And so I was like, man, this, this pretty gnarly.
And so then I headed up to the location and as I arrived, it

(01:37):
was dark. The power had gone out at the
prom, and so I felt really, really bad for the kids because
because. Like, prom was like, the thing
like, Oh yeah, you look forward to prom night.
Yeah. And so you went in there and it
was all dark, there was no air. It was still pretty humid from
yesterday. I had to pee.

(01:58):
And so I went to go use the bathroom and I couldn't wash my
hands because it was the electric sensors on the on the
sinks. And so I, I was just having all
these really kind of negative thoughts about, I mean, this is
the worst prom ever, man, I feelso bad for these kids.
But as the kids started to trickle in and come in, I mean,

(02:19):
a lot of them showed up a really, really late just because
I didn't say the whole time. I only stayed for 40 minutes
just to see a few of the students I work with.
They look so nice. It was just really neat to see.
There's a couple kids I don't even recognize because they they
cleaned. Up so nice.
They just mostly joggers and hoodies and they were just
decked out. And it was, it was really neat.

(02:40):
And I had this one kid that I don't work with him personally,
but he's on the spectrum non verbal, but he's he's a really
funny kid because during lunchtime, whenever I do
lunchtime duties just means watching so that nobody's
getting into a fight. He will look at you and
intentionally burp as loud as possible.

(03:01):
OK. And just continue to burp until
you like acknowledge it and you tell him to stop.
And then when you tell him to stop, he does like this really a
gas face like and. So attention seeking behavior.
Super attention seeking. It's like a 4-5 year old trying
to doing something really naughty.
And you know when, when you catch him, you, you know, you

(03:22):
get that that kind of reaction. So he showed up and he was in a
whole suit with. That's so cool.
With his brother caretaker and he stayed for a little bit, but
you know, just seeing him there just all decked out and just
seeing all the kids and you know, there's some
disappointment and they were eventually able to get the music

(03:44):
playing, but it it the the DJ quit.
I, I heard an hour early becausethere in no fault of his of his
own, but I guess there were surges going on.
So they trying to restart the power and so he wasn't going to
try to ruin all his equipment stuff like that.
So so it started off kind of rough and not knowing, but when

(04:06):
when the kids started showing upand looking just awesome, it it
was. That's so cool, man.
That's really cool it. Was it was a neat experience.
Hats off. Hats off to the kids for for
sticking with it. Unfortunately, your DJ was a
piece of shit. A piece of shit.
Well, that's great man. That's really good.
I, I love to hear that. You know, young people being

(04:27):
able to experience a prom is always a good thing.
What did? What did you do for prom?
Did you? Well.
We, we rented was a Lincoln Navigator stretch limo.
Yeah. And we, we tried to smoke weed
in the back and then the, the driver stopped and screamed at
us. Oh shit.
Yeah. And then we stopped, but we

(04:47):
didn't get kicked out. Well, we I didn't do any of
that. No, I I was for my prom.
Well, which one? Because I went to three.
Oh wow, all. Right, Poppy?
Went to one. Well either way, Long story
short, my girlfriend drove because I couldn't drive and
that was it. You're what, in middle school?

(05:11):
No, I just didn't. I had no real interest in
driving. I was just like, yeah, just
drive me until I was told that Ihad to get a license at some
point in time. Yeah, because your your parents
probably weren't. We're tired of driving you to
different practices and stuff like that.
Yeah, and I was tired of walkingand also having my girlfriend
drive me at the time. So I was like, yeah, I probably

(05:33):
should. I should get a car or at least a
license. First step.
Yeah, big first step for me thisweek, man.
Alive, struggling. It's been a hard week.
It's been a tough week for me. Dog had another seizure so.
Man, I'm sorry it. Took a tough one, but no, I

(05:54):
guess maybe silver lining is that he's actually doing OK.
So he's, you know, all things considered, he's doing well.
He looked great when I when I came in he was happy and running
around. So he's, you know, he's doing
really well. Vet is working with us to get
him some heart medication and keep him on that.
And apparently that's supposed to help with that somehow.
So we'll see. But other than that, yeah.

(06:15):
I mean, it's that that rattled me.
I won't lie. I think it's like two or three
weeks that's happened. Yeah.
So it's like, you know, the timeis coming faster than I think
I'm I'm ready for. But you know you're.
You're never going to be ready for it.
It's just one of the hard unfortunate things that happened
is that, you know, I've, I've had to put down some, some pets

(06:39):
before and it's just, it's, it sucks.
Yeah, you can never be prepared.Nope.
Yeah, we. Yeah, Well, we can.
I'll tell you a story off off air about my my family dog
growing up. But but.
Yeah, yeah. So you.
Told it on one of these, did I? Yeah.
Oh, OK, well, here we go. Never mind.
Fuck me that, eh? Well, let's take a quick break.

(07:03):
When we come back, we'll cover the douche New of the Week and
the administration's war on soldiers and their families.
Yeehaw. We're back this week's douche

(07:26):
canoe inmate number three, 7452-054 Mr. Sean Combs AKA The
Diddler AKA Puffy Smalls AKA Diddy.
Nice. Puffy swallows.
I like that one. So this shit, this shit has been
insane this week. I I don't know if you've been

(07:47):
paying attention at all to the trial.
I have not. Oh my God, dude.
We're we're going to cover a little bit about what happened
this week. So Diddy was arrested, I said.
I have written down Daddy, not Daddy.
Daddy was arrested. Daddy was arrested.
Diddy was arrested last September and faces charges

(08:08):
including racketeering, sex trafficking, and transportation
to engage in prostitution. He could be sentenced to life if
he's found if he's convicted guilty.
And this past week, the trial ofDiddy officially started.
He pleaded guilt, not not guilty, which is insane given
the security camera footage of him kicking the shit out of his

(08:30):
girl, his then girlfriend. And, and just for trigger
warning for people, it's a videoof domestic violence and, you
know, just just be aware. Yeah, I mean, like, we're just
playing a little bit of the cliphere, but like, they even say
that in this, this this news footage here, too.
The starving new video appears to support some of the

(08:50):
accusations of abuse against music mogul Sean Diddy Combs.
We. Want to warn you that this video
you're about to see is extremelygraphic.
The surveillance footage that was captured inside of a Los
Angeles hotel in 2016 allegedly shows Combs assaulting then
girlfriend Cassie Ventura in a hallway.
A now settled lawsuit filed by Ventura claim that she was

(09:12):
trying to leave the hotel after a drunken Combs punched her.
The video appears to show Combs chasing her down the hall,
throwing her to the ground and then repeatedly kicking her.
So far, there's been no comment from Combs or his attorney.
That's one of the more shocking videos I've seen.
Oh, that, that or Ray Rice. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's hard to, it's hard to, it's hard to do like it's

(09:36):
not. Something you want to compare?
I was just saying it's like a which one was a better domestic
violence video? That's not.
That's not what we're doing. Let's pick a poll.
Who had the better domestic violence video?
No, that's not what we're doing here.
But yeah, so like, he's kicking the shit out of his then
longtime girlfriend and apparentpinata, Casey Ventura and and

(09:58):
their history of the, like, these freak off parties that
they were having. So that's like, that's really
what all this is about. The free golf parties were the
after party, after the party kind of thing.
You know, lots of baby oil was involved in these parties,
apparently. Yeah, there was.
There were tons of baby oil thatwas.
Just yeah, like like a Costco size.

(10:20):
Jesus. Jesus.
I mean, yeah, God. From People magazine.
The indictment accused Combs of using his music empire to
manipulate and lure women with promises of romance and then
force them using threats or coercion to participate in
highly orchestrated sex acts At at at the so-called free golf
parties, which sometimes lasted several days.

(10:43):
Did He's a real douche canoe. Actually, much worse than that.
We don't have an ironic award system for this yet, but he's
worse than a douche canoe. This dude is demented and he
deserves everything that's coming his way in prison.
More from the People article Real quick for you there.
Sergio Sean Diddy Combs allegedly blackmailed his
ex-girlfriend Cassandra Casey Ventura.

(11:05):
He was at the center of the sex crimes trial with humiliating
tapes of her engaging in sex acts with male escorts that he
forced upon her. Combs Combs trial on charges of
racketeering sex trafficking to engage in prostitution began on
the 12th in Manhattan, prosecutors allege during open
statements at the freak off sex parties, he video recorded

(11:27):
sexual encounters he forced uponhis victims, including Ventura,
later using the tapes to blackmail people the it's.
Like a like a Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, yeah.
It's, I mean, some of the details that came out from this
week were really disturbing. And they're already really
disturbing. Yeah.

(11:48):
I mean, a lot of I mean, if you saw the video, you you can
assume that it's really disturbing.
But like he video recorded like all these encounters were like
he pale paid male escorts to peein his long time girlfriend's
mouth. Like they forced like it was at
that. We're not going to but like that

(12:08):
was like the one part of this where like apparently his kids
like got up and left the courtroom and like people were
like just really like all right.Like we, we've seen too much
like this is this is beyond likepalace injury kind of stuff like
we're now seeing like the humiliation of somebody and, and

(12:31):
several women for that matter. And for the fact that like this
is something that other people engaged in for a long time is
really, really scary. And he is demented as fuck.
And I really hope a lot of bad things happen to him.
Well, it just sounds very similar to our Kelly too, right?
And what our our Kelly. Yeah.

(12:54):
In federal prison for now, yeah.I have for for Cassie's sake
that after she's forced to relive her trauma and have it on
display for the world to see, that she can hold her head up
high knowing that she did the right thing leaving her abuser
and to keep finding a way to live.
And hopefully this monster's putin jail in the cell that he
deserves. And hopefully her testimony is

(13:15):
the one that puts the nail in this guy's fucking coffin.
Well, and you know what? One of the things that's really
it, I got a little bit of goosebumps just thinking about
it. But there was that case in
France right where it was the the psych really rich couple
where the guy was basically had been drugging his wife and been
invited people to to sexually assault her.

(13:39):
And that she basically reclaimedit and went back when in person
for the trial and testified and watched the videos that the hit
her her husband had done. And it really created a
movement. I think it was from what I heard
is that it was just really a huge movement for women in
France. And hopefully, you know, I know

(14:01):
Americans are very resistance tobelieving things are following
anything but that we can really start, you know, stopping this
culture of toxic masculinity and, and, you know, really
empowering victims and not shaming them for horrible things
have happened to them. Yeah, yeah, I, I 100% agree.

(14:22):
Yeah. I mean, like, you know, I guess
in conjunction with that, I justwant to say if if you know
anyone who's dealing with domestic abuse, whether it be
physical, emotional or mental, reach out to the good folks at
the National Domestic Violence Hotline.
That's 800-799-7233. Or if you can't do it via phone,
like talking on the phone and texting is a lot more
convenient. Text love is at 2252.

(14:44):
That's that goes to a website, not a website, but an
organization called loveisrespect.org.
Yeah. And the Marion House, which is
in Baltimore, that that has lotsof resources for.
It sure, yeah. It's really, really important
stuff. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, especially during, you know, May being mental health
Awareness Month, like we really need to make sure that we're
going out of our way to protect people who are in, in, in in

(15:07):
less than optimal positions. And standing up when you see how
if you have friends or or or family members or work
acquaintances that you support them as much as possible.
That's right. That's right.
That's absolutely right. Well, now we've ended the the
this very depressing part of theshow.
Yeah. That's just this isn't, I mean,

(15:29):
they're all depressing, but it'sjust, it's just.
It's just what a piece of shit man.
It's such a pile of garbage. And the and the thing too, that
I guess that is when he had his whole vote or die campaign
trying to get people to vote. And you know, again, you had a
guy that worked really hard. He was a billionaire right at
some point with, you know, all the stuff that he'd.

(15:50):
Been doing and working all that shit.
Yeah, and he but to just kind offind out about, you know what,
how people really are. And just when you have that much
power and money that you just, you can't get enough and you
just you treat people like that.And I just, to me, that's mind
blowing. You know, I was thinking about

(16:11):
it like through the lens of like, all right, you know, I'm
like, I'm not here to kink shameyou.
Like if that's your thing, I don't, I don't appreciate that
kind of activity. But if that's your thing, OK,
fine. 2 consenting adults doing something that they both agree
to, sure, whatever, that's fine.But when you're like trafficking
people and like essentially pimping them out, yeah, you

(16:35):
know, that's really fucking gross.
And one of the things that I waslooking at, not looking at, but
like I came across a video wherehe was talking about with with
Justin Bieber and he's like, yeah, I can't wait to have this
kid over or some shit like that.And there's a lot of speculation
that Justin Bieber was probably,you know, assaulted or, you
know, some stuff was happening to him.
Look at what's happening with him right now.
Like, I don't know how much you're paying attention to

(16:56):
Justin Bieber, but like, the dude is like using drugs again.
The guy is like really drinking heavy.
And all this started happening after the Diddy news got
dropped. So it's kind of like, you don't
think that these two things are fucking connected, Like, and no
one in Hollywood is saying it, or at least from what I can see.
I don't also pay much attention,but like, it's just like, Jesus
Christ, like this guy is a monster and he belongs in

(17:20):
prison. Yeah, forever.
Yeah. I like, yeah, no one can hold
him down. Take that.
Take that. Fuck you, Puffy Diddler.
Let's take a quick break though.When we've returned, we're going
to talk about the government's all out assault on soldiers and

(17:41):
their families. We're going to take it up the
the happiness dial. We're going to turn it all the
way up to 11. You're back.
So the VA, also known as the Department of Veterans Affairs,

(18:03):
is quite responsible for administering benefit programs
for veterans, their families andtheir survivors.
And you know what? I just as a small caveat, not it
may be a little rant, is that I'm, I'm not a military person,
but I just know that the way that the VA is funded is
shameful and the services that veterans get is horrible.

(18:28):
That most other of the big programs get funded a lot better
and the VA is just not funded. And there is so many problems
within the VA and we hail the troops for their big sacrifice
and they do things beyond what is that I would ever do in my

(18:53):
life. And they get treated like shit
by this government that always claims that all we love our
veterans, we are going to spend $50,000,000 to do Apache
helicopters during the Super Bowl or, you know, and then the
conditions that a lot of the VA are horrendous.

(19:14):
So we're going to talk a little bit about that here.
It angers, it angers me so much.Just the hypocrisy.
Well, I'll get ready to fucking jump out of your chair here.
Of the 25,000,000 veterans currently alive, nearly three of
every four served during a war or an official period of
hostility. About 1/4 of the nation's
population, approximately 70 million people, are potentially

(19:36):
eligible for VA benefit and services because they are
veterans, family members or survivors of veterans.
The Trump administration is looking to cut already an
already carved out agency that is lacking funding to take care
of military service members and their families.
But now they're trying to cut itby another 15% in terms of
personnel or that equates to being 80,000 jobs.

(20:00):
Which will put rural service members and elderly service
members at an even higher risk of not being able to get the
services they fucking fought for.
To your point, it's an already carved out agency.
An agency that struggles for funding, An agency that
struggles for new and improved hospitals, clinics, all that and

(20:22):
we're looking at trying to cut into 80 thousands, 80,000 jobs
from an already struggling agency that is meant to be there
to. Doctors and nurses, social
workers, psychologist, psychiatrist.
Research for cancer. PTSD.
From Pro Publica Despite A congressional mandate to expand

(20:45):
care for veterans, internal Veterans Affairs messages
obtained by Pro Publica paint a stark portrait of how chaotic
cost cutting has already imperiled tests of treatments
for cancer, opioid, opioid addiction and more.
Pro Publica reported on dozens of emails sent from staff at VA

(21:06):
hospitals and clinics across thecountry to headquarters warning
how cuts could and in some casesare degrading the agency's
ability to provide for roughly 9million veterans who already
rely on this service. Hiring freezes and other edicts
from the White House have left medical providers scrambling for

(21:27):
shorts and short staffed amid anever shifting series of policy
moves, including the cancellation of contracts with
companies that maintain cancer registries.
Staffers at VA centers in Pennsylvania warned the cuts
were causing severe and immediate impacts, including
life saving cancer trials. And we've already talked about,

(21:49):
you know, all these other cuts that are happening in
educational, in the education system that are impacting Cancer
Research and other medical advances.
Like, what are we doing here to the people who even if you don't
necessarily agree with, like theimperial, like imperial, you
know, military system, like how the military is being used, like
there is no excuse for this period.

(22:11):
No, hands down. And especially when you talk
about how much you love the military and how you support
veterans and, and do that and then you go off and you're going
to cut 15% of the the already depleted budget.
That's crazy. Well.
You're cutting 15% of the staff.Of the staff and.
Like that's a huge cut. That's like there are some VA

(22:37):
hospitals in the middle of the country that only have like 5 or
6 people who are staffed at those things.
So even if you get rid of one person that's but you know,
that's in that one little officethat could potentially be 30% of
your staff, like depending on how large your office is, I
guess maybe the numbers are not I'm not going to math.

(22:59):
But The thing is, is that what just really, really frustrates
me so much, especially with the Republicans coming up with their
budget bill that they're trying to get through, is the amount of
tax cuts that they're trying to allow for people that have
income over $1,000,000. Or if you have earned more than

(23:22):
$30 million, that you don't haveto pay an inheritance tax, you
know, passing it down to your, your children, you're like, what
the fuck? So if you already have more than
$30 million, you, you're upset that you have to pay some taxes,
I think your, your family's going to be all right.
Yeah, I think you'll be all. Right.
And so they're cutting that for VA stuff and then also for for

(23:46):
Medicare. That's going to be another 8
million people that are working poor.
America. America got shed His grace.
On the enrollment in clinical trials has stopped one person
right in Pennsylvania, meaning veterans lose access to

(24:08):
therapies. And that's incredibly important
because the Army during its timein Iraq and Afghanistan were
literally purposefully poisoningthe soldiers and a lot of those
folks, those men and women who came back.

(24:28):
Mustard gas and stuff like that.Mustard gas, plastics, rubber,
all kinds of things that they were inhaling.
All the burning like oil and stuff like that.
Yeah, we're going to be talking about burn pits today.
All of that we're, we're talkingabout burn, burn pits military

(24:50):
personnel were exposed to over the course of 20 years in Iraq
and Afghanistan to literal football fields worth of burning
trash, human feces, toxic material, all of which they've
come home with. On top of the PTSD from having,
I don't know, artillery shells raining down on them or not even

(25:13):
knowing when it's going to happen, but just the mere threat
or I don't know, an IED blowing up a fucking vehicle as they're
driving down the road. Again, we can disagree about why
they're there and the purpose that they serve while they're
there. But the last thing that any of
these men and women who were fighting in a war that they
weren't, they didn't ask to be apart of, is to be treated with

(25:34):
fucking respect. Or to be able to be entitled to
services that they need for, to be able to move on from the
trauma of being part of war. Yeah.
Absolutely, Absolutely. I'm going to show you a real
quick video here. Burn pits are massive waste
combustion facilities that were used on our military bases

(25:55):
frequently in the Global War on Terror.
These burn pit areas on the military base were used to burn
many different sources of trash,including toxic waste which
contaminated the air. They were large, they were
visibly dirty, and most veteransare aware if they've been
exposed to burn pits. Some of the things that they

(26:17):
burned were paint, electronics, rubber, the list goes on and on
Over time as research and medical advancements were made,
then we start to see some burn pit presumptives trickle in and
and we'll get caught up to wherewe are today, which.
So that was a clip from another podcast where they were talking
about this, but I, I thought that that really summarized

(26:37):
pretty succinctly what what was going on down there.
The Army was literally poisoningtheir soldiers.
But just why? Just because it was.
It's the easiest way to dispose of things, yeah.
For sure, Yeah, yeah. I mean like, you know, you're,
you're abroad the logistics of getting.
We got to get China. China will get everything.

(26:58):
China is coming in for the track.
China. I mean, look, this went back,
you know, to the early days of the Bush administration all the
way through the Obama administration, all the way
through the Trump won, Biden wonTrump too.
You know, like this is somethingthat has been a thing for a long
time. So hundreds of air, open air
garbage dumps were spread acrossAfghanistan and Iraq, often

(27:20):
close to encampments where American soldiers lived, worked,
ate and slept. Everything considered to be
waste was dumped into these pitsto be burned.
This included not only paper waste, plastics, electronics,
Humvee parts, tires, but also bio waste, including, you know,
waste. Waste ranging from innocuous

(27:42):
junk food to wound dressings, amputated body parts and human
waste, as well as lithium ion batteries, hazardous chemicals
and ammunition. So, so the question is, if
you're out in the middle of a desert, and granted, you know,
we have dump sites and stuff like that, and I know the desert

(28:03):
has its own biosphere and it hasthe life around it, why won't
you just dig a big pit and then bury it?
I don't know. Why burn it?
He's to scratch his eyes. I have an idea.
Like I'm a fucking idiot. No, I literally I have no idea.
Like I was trying to think of a reason but I've got no clue.
I mean, granted, but it's a desert, right?

(28:26):
So yeah, I mean, it's not going to seep into a water system or
an oil or whatever. Yeah, I guess.
Why wouldn't you just dig a holeand just cover it, Hey?
Maybe we can make billions of dollars.
That's our that's our golden ticket.
Take a hole. How'd you get rich?

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We dug a. Hole.
We dug a hole. Oh Jesus Christ.
That's awesome. To provide a perspective on the
volume of material burned, more than 864,000 bottles of water
were consumed each month at one forward operating base in Iraq
in the early 2000s, with that number doubling during the

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hotter months. These and other items were
discarded and soaked in JP 8 jetfuel and set on fire.
So imagine like your family's had a cookout and you catch
like, hey, I'm done with this bottle of water.
Let's throw some lighter fluid on it and just light it on fire
in this pit next to us and eat right next to it like.

(29:33):
The season it it's like the cherrywood seasoning from
pellets. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're going to smoke our lungs with this, with this fire,
plastic burning in. It oh carcinogens.
The pits burned, or more accurately, smouldered, day and
night, seven days a week based on the amount of waste

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generated. The size of the pits range from
small pits like you would dig inyour backyard created by patrol
units to huge pits on the industrial size facilities that
covered more than 10 acres. That's one base Joint.
Base Ballade in Iraq burned morethan 200 tons of trash every
single day, depending on the prevailing winds.

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The smoke. 200 tons. 200 tons dog a day.
A ton is £2000 a day. Could you imagine a day?
That's crazy. And depending on the winds, that
smoke and ash often settled across housing areas where
soldiers lived. 1 Soldier described the smoke as as quote,

(30:40):
thick, like San Francisco fog. The color of the smoke changed
depending on what was burning that day, but it was mostly
black. So like you've done this and
we've all done this at some point in time in our lives, you
know, you're out camping or whatever.
I used to build burn milk cratesall the time.
There you go yeah. And if you like had like a
little bit of plastic in there, like you'd see like the little

(31:01):
pop of green or something like that, you're like, oh that's
pretty cool looking Yeah. Not knowing that you probably
shouldn't have done that like, but you know, could you imagine
you're you're watching a A10 acres worth of trash bird and
all of a sudden you see this like billow of like green blue.
You're like, oh, that's not natural.
What's going on here? Must be those amputated legs

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that are there that were coveredin shed steel.
That's insane. Insane, like insane is.
And that's something that while we're talking about this right
now, is that as somebody that's not tied into the military, I
would never think of. Oh yeah, they're just burning
all their trash they don't have.No, they don't don't have waste

(31:44):
management or, or recycling coming through in the middle of
the desert. And yeah, you're just watching
that happen and. Dude, imagine like also like
depending like I was in this onearticle I was reading about it,
like depending on how close those bases were to local

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populations, communities, those people also got affected.
Yeah, right. So like, you know, it may not
have been as in concentrated as it was on these Army bases, but
like if. You're still in the residuals.
Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, and I that
happened in, in Baltimore, right, with the trash
incinerator that's down in SouthBaltimore where that impacts,

(32:31):
you know, historically black neighborhoods that are, have the
highest rates of cancer in all of Maryland because they're
right next to this huge stack that's burning shit that that
shouldn't be burned. Yeah, yeah.
And we can't burn it. Can't burn it in outside of
Loyola. We'll not do that.
Or Roland Park. Or Yeah, yeah.

(32:52):
I mean, you know, and also like,to be fair, you can't do it
right in the middle of the downtown area because, you know,
that's downtown. Where else where you go to eat
Phillips crabs, Yeah. Or Hooters wings.
I don't think Hooters exist anymore.
Yeah, they got rid of that, didn't.
They yeah, fuck. My least favorite place to get
wings, Yeah. Terrible wings, terrible place.

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Anyway, much of the waste of these pits was toxic, and when
burned, it released plumes of pollutants that included
particulate matter, volatile organic compounds, hydrocarbons,
and neurotoxins. Neurotoxins.
That's code for poison, right? Things that will kill your body,
yeah. Jet fuel that was used to ignite

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fires, release benzene. Benzene a a known carcinogen.
Hazardous levels of copper, iron, titanium.
So just for anything, anything that's burnt and you inhale is a
carcinogen. So if you're smoking a
cigarette, you're you're inhaling things that you that
will give you cancer. So if you're burning or if

(33:55):
you're inhaling lithium ion batteries, you're inhaling jet
fuel, you're inhaling plastic ain't good.
Here's. What I want you to do at home.
Here's a little experiment you can do.
Go outside, dig a hole in the ground.
Take your laptop. Yeah.
Soak it in. Light and some of your trash,

(34:15):
just the trash that you have. Take a shit, Yeah, drop it right
in there. Cut a finger off, light lighted
in there and then cover your head with a towel like you would
like over top of a sink when youneed to like kind of like clear
your allergies out. And then just do that for like 6
months at a time and tell me youdon't come home, you don't have
some kind of cancer. What?
Or I was just thinking, you justtake like a plastic bag and just

(34:38):
suck up the smoke and you just huff it like a gravity bomb and
just, and just see what happened.
I mean, you might, might trip out a little bit.
Oh. Yeah, ain't nothing now.
But that brings us to Trump fromthe Hill, the controversial fund

(34:58):
was this, this the. I don't know anything about
this. I love the veterans.
They're the greatest soldiers inthis world has ever seen.
Besides Putin? We're going to poison them.
There's only one way to make himstronger, just to make them into
mutants, they say. Trump.
Poison. Dave.
What's that one movie? Teenage Mutant Ninja.

(35:19):
Turtles. No, that Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles something about toxic something.
Toxic Avenger. Toxic Avenger, yes.
That is a great movie and re. Releasing it, Did you see that?
Well the the original 1 was so horrific and violent over the
top and oh it's great. Peter Dinklage is playing the
Toxic Avenger this time. So really.
Oh, yeah, yeah, they're. They're.

(35:40):
So he goes from like a little person into a big Musk.
Hell yeah. Dude, it's me also.
Yes, it is. We had to.
There's only one way to make oursoldiers even better is to make
them into the Toxic Avenger. They're.
Trump poison. I love some Trump poison.
They call it the Trump poison, folks.
Trump poison syndrome, they say.I got it from New Jersey, from

(36:04):
Atlantic. City Atlantic City, they say
after they. Tore down my casino.
I had many sticks of uranium in there, folks.
They say that's why the Russianswanted me.
But. It's a precious pollutant.

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So we're talking about the PACK act here.
You heard that in the in the audio that I dropped a little
bit ago. But the controversial fund was
meant to allot $22.8 billion to cover thank you, 22 billion to
cover expanded benefits for service members sickened by
military toxic toxic exposures, including burn pit smoke and

(36:45):
Agent Orange water contaminationstarting October 1, 2025, by the
continuing resolution drafted and passed by Republicans.
House Republicans zeroes out funding that would have been
used for the TEF this fall. It cuts more than 20 billion in
funding needed to provide care for veterans exposed to burn

(37:07):
pits, Agent Orange and other toxic substances next year.
Bernie Sanders says this cannot pass right?
Like. It cannot pass.
You shall not pass. God I love the Lord of the
Rings. Can we do a podcast on that
instead? I'd be so much happier.
Yeah, sure. Greg, we don't want you happy

(37:29):
here. We need you.
Said that's when when you produce your best stuff.
Yeah, when you're in your pity despair, Greg, that's when you,
that's when you do your best thinking.
As you start to just think of the worst things possible ever
and just you know. Republican Representative Rosa
de Laura from Connecticut, the top Democrat on the House
Appropriations Committee, strongly criticized the funding

(37:49):
plan ahead of its House passage,calling out House Republicans
for cutting the money despite approving it on their spending
bill last year. That was during the Biden
administration. So maybe that's why they had to
play play ball a little bit more, I don't know.
While Trump pretends to love themilitary in his rallies and

(38:10):
incoherent speeches, it feels like he actually doesn't think
they know anything at all. We have 19 trillion in debt,
very soon going to $21 trillion,John in debt and I want these
countries to reimburse us at least for our cost.
She made many statements that she knows were wrong.
Do you still feel? Like you know more about ISIS
than the generals? Well, they don't know much

(38:30):
because they're not winning thatI can tell you now.
I think they're not winning for a different reason.
I think Obama's hurting them. It's being run.
Well, from what I hear, it's being run from the White House.
It's all being run from the White House.
I've spoken to certain general what as to who, but highly
respected people, they say we could knock them out fast in
office. Now, General, if we had tired
general in one case in office and in one case out of office

(38:52):
and they said both of them said the same thing.
If we had the leadership, meaning the go ahead, you could
knock him out fast. He's a fucking idiot.
Because the reason why is that from all the things I've heard
about war is that when you go, when you're going into another
country, you don't have the insurance and outs unless you're
going to do an atomic bomb. It's going to be a long drawn

(39:15):
out deal because guerrilla warfare is always going to just
pop out and do what it does and disrupt it.
And you're never, never going to.
I mean the US hasn't won it won a war since World War 2.
We also haven't declared war since World War 2.
Or no I guess. No we, no, we had.
The Iraq war I think was a real was.

(39:37):
That was declared war. Yeah.
From Congress. Yeah.
But I think that. The Gulf War, right?
The Gulf War, yeah, the originalone, the one in the 90s, Yeah,
yeah. Oh, we had the war on terrorism,
but I don't know if that was a real war or not, but I mean, the
Korean War and the Vietnam War weren't.
No, they were conflicts. Yeah, security conflicts or some
shit like that. How about this though?

(39:58):
When he was actually in office? You remember this one?
Taliban is our enemy. ISIS is our enemy.
We have an area that I brought up with our generals four or
five weeks ago, where Taliban ishere, ISIS is here, and they're
fighting each other. I said, why don't you let them
fight? Why are we getting in the middle
of it? I said let them fight.

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They're both our enemies. Let them fight, Sir, we want to
do it. They go in and and they end up
fighting both of them. It's the craziest thing.
I think I would have been a goodgeneral bonito.
I think I would have been a good.
I would. Have been a terrible general.
Who knows? He's so dumb.
And The thing is, though, that with everything, I, I think
definitely within this presidency, and this is a side

(40:43):
tangent, but it's all transactional currently.
I I mean, he doesn't give a shitwho it is.
He's he is talking with people from Qatar, the United Arab
Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and he'sgetting $400 million in his
crypto business, is making billions and billions of
dollars. So he doesn't give a shit.

(41:04):
He just wants to make transactions and sound good.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's. All he wants.
We God, dude. Listeners, if you want to hear a
a daily episode from from us about just the nonsense that's
happening, go ahead and give us a donate a cup of coffee.
Find a way to do that through through a website.

(41:27):
Actually, now I'd rather have a beer.
Yeah, donate a beer, donate us beer money, and we'll do this
full time. Yeah, we, we want to quit our
job and just talk to each other and talk to you guys.
Yeah, honestly folks, I it wouldbe my dream.
Yeah. Anyway.
We are miserable. Save us from our miserable
existences. We know that the economy is

(41:48):
about to take a shit, but why don't you go ahead and donate
100 bucks a month? Yeah, Because we're going to
need that. Yeah, we're going to need that
more than you do, we assure you.But no, I I agree with you.
I think, like, when you think about it through what you were
just saying. Yeah, it it it is only about
self enrichment. It's all it is.

(42:09):
I mean, his, that's what his presidency is.
It's not about, you know. Dog, he wants to be a he wants
to be a strong man. I, I mean, you look at he loves
the MSB, the he loves Putin, he loves Kim, Kim Jong Illinois,

(42:29):
Kim Jong Illinois, right? Kim Jong Illinois was the one
before I, I think one of the biggest things is that Trump is
really into rubbing up, but he wants to be a strong man.
He wants to be with the Kim JongUN's, he wants to be with
Vladimir Putin. He wants to be with the Saudi
Arabian monarchy, just all the Middle East monarchies.

(42:55):
Erdogan, he loves Erdogan. He always talks about Erdogan.
And so he, he likes that kind ofhe wants to create his own own
monarchy. And I, you know, the the one
thing I heard about him almost regressing into feudalistic, you
know, world is where, you know, he controls and his family

(43:17):
controls all of the Americas, Putin, Europe.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Xi Jinping with in in the Asian
region. Oh yeah, he wants it to be like
this is at least, you know, likedid you ever play the game of
risk growing up at all or you a risk guy?
I. Got into it later and it is an

(43:38):
awesome game, it just takes a long time.
It takes forever. Yeah, and I'm not very good with
strategy. I feel impulsive.
That's kind of I'm impulsive. I'm gonna take over the world.
Never seen buy my Bitcoin. You can buy Bitcoin in risk
nowadays, no? Like, I feel like it's, it's
that like, all right, you're gonna have your economic sphere.

(43:59):
We're gonna have our economic sphere.
But yeah, to your point, like heloves the model of, of AI mean
like one of the the pieces I've been listening to here recently,
well, not listening to, but reading a piece and basically he
was saying like, you know, it's the Viktor Orban model, you
know, in Hungary where it's like, all right, you know, the,

(44:23):
the facade democracy is still there.
You know, it's not quite as, youknow, oh, 90% of the country
loves Putin kind of thing, right?
Like but like, you know, when you disable, when you neuter the
courts, when you neuter the press?
When you jail the people that are the opposition.
Right. And so then you go, all right,

(44:43):
well, you know, it's still a quick democracy, but yeah,
you're looking at then at that point is an autocracy.
And you know, on the autocracy scale, I was reading on this
piece, they were saying like theUnited States is, is right
around that in that region now, like we're, we're no longer if
you were to, if you were to blank page like what's happening

(45:08):
currently in our country and, and not like put our Nate, like
the United States over top of it.
And you were to say, like, what country is this?
You would not say the United States, you just wouldn't.
It's not what people have come to understand is the bastion of
freedom and all this other stuff.
Like even if that's a a myth that we've been telling
ourselves forever, like it's still just not that thing.

(45:31):
We're flirting with it. Oh, we're, we're, I don't know
that, you know, I was listening to another show and they were
saying, like, we've been talkingabout it could happen here for a
while. And it's here.
It's, it's, it's, it's happened.We're, we're not, we're not
maybe there where we're there. But back to the story here.
There was a, a, a piece that he did on Fox and Friends where he

(45:53):
was talking about his love and respect for the military and
praising, you know, generals andshit.
Are you going to fire those generals the the woke generals
at the top because you've been talking?
Yes, I would get rid of them. Yeah, but see, now I know him.
I didn't know him before, but you know, I came in.
What do I know? I was a New York real estate
person. But no, I'd fire him.
I would fire them. You can't have woke military.

(46:16):
Here is jenning about the care about the troops.
Are you tracking how many veterans have been fired so far?
Yes, we are. We are and and we take good care
of our veterans. So we're watching that very
carefully and we hope it's goingto be a smaller number as
possible. But we are having great success
in slimming down our government.It's been really very successful

(46:36):
and some took payouts and buyouts and others took.
Being fired or getting paid off to to leave, I don't know.
You can smoke this big bag of industrial.
Right. Yeah, yeah.
Here's some jet fuel. How would you help that for a
little bit? Oh, shit, That's that good.
Trump. Trump.

(46:58):
I mean, in this past week he wasin Qatar or Qatar or I don't
know what the preferred pronunciation is.
I'm not even going to try and pretend because I've heard it's
both ways. But you know, so in Qatar or
Qatar, you know, he was in frontof a wall of of green suit, you
know, green suit army men, you know who who played into the

(47:19):
backstage of his, you know, you know, speech about how he was
thinking about running for a fourth term.
He's used the military his entire fucking.
Career. Gotta get to the third term
though. Some would say that even though
Biden was in charge of the country, that Trump was always
the focal point. That would be me, by the way.

(47:43):
I would say that it was. Biden.
It's a witch hunt. It was the Biden administration
with a backdrop. Biden crime family.
I mean true. God I hate hearing my voice
trying to do trump. I just I don't sound good.
God damn it. No, I want you to keep doing it.
I will. Daddy likes.

(48:04):
Well, Ted, just going to get it.Yeah, Go, go off, King.
OK, hello. But you know, of course you'll
remember that he could not be drafted at one point in time
because of the bone spur thing, right?
Too many bones. First, could you imagine that
fat BLOB of a man running though?

(48:24):
Like running towards you with a gun?
A bayonet like. Drops here.
He's here to kill you. Daddy's here.
You know what, to not, not to becontrarian, but I, I saw some
videos of him as a younger man and actually he kind of looked
like kind of an athlete. Did he?
Yeah, it was when with the UFL, when he owned that and he was

(48:49):
throwing a football and oh really?
He, he looked, he looked. Is it recency bias?
Is that like, Is that the thing?Is it recency bias as to why I
feel like he would not be? So from when I when I watched
John from dynamic heating and cooling throw a ball, not an

(49:09):
athlete like just can't can't throw a ball, no or bowl.
Are you kidding me? Yeah, Trump could throw a
football. Really.
Yeah. And, and actually, I don't know
if if John can throw football ornot, but he can't bowl.
Yeah, that's a direct shot. That's a direct.
Direct shot. Come at me.

(49:29):
You know what? I'm going to put that out there.
Come on the podcast. What now, bitch?
Jesus. Christ.
Speaking of your call, fucking calling out people and shit.
But Sergio, the military community isn't completely alive
behind Trump. Here's the former General of the

(49:51):
Army, Mark Miley in 2023. Take an oath to a tribe.
We don't take an oath to a religion.
We don't take an oath to a king or a queen or a tyrant or a
dictator. And we don't take an oath to a
wannabe dictator. We don't take an oath to an
individual. We take an oath to the

(50:12):
Constitution, and we take an oath to the idea that it's
America and we're willing to dieto protect it.
Every soldier, sailor, airman, Marine, guardian and Coast
Guardsmen. Each of us.
Commits our very life to protectand defend that document
regardless. Again, a personal price.

(50:32):
Those are bold words. Yeah, I mean from a from a
former general of the Army saying that.
Four-star general that was in the Joint Chiefs of Staff that
was relieved of duties. Yeah, whether or not you're, you
know, military Rob, Rob kind of got person or or not, those are
powerful words from somebody whowas in a really high position

(50:54):
within the force that is being touted to be, you know, not
being touted but is being used as a crutch by the Republican
Party to forward his agenda. And this isn't a knob polishing,
you know, podcast for the military.
A larger than expected percent between somewhere between 14 and
17% of soldiers active or retired participate in mass

(51:18):
shooting killing sprees in this country.
Many of them are aligned to far right movements.
They're active and active participants trying to overthrow
the American democracy and a part of groups like the Proud
Boys, 3 Percenters, Oath Keepers, and other lynch mobs.
Just this April, the Guardian published a piece about neo Nazi

(51:38):
influence within the United States Army.
Racism, Nazism, bigotry should all be brought to light,
regardless of the institution that you're a part of.
There's only one thing we do with Nazis.
We've talked about that before, of course, and that especially
pertains to our Deaf Defense Secretary Pete.

(51:59):
The military's full of that and there's no getting around that.
And you know what the push back from the far right is that it's
gonna be DEI. Like, you're doing this stuff to
make it woke, and you're turningthese military people into the
whiny liberals by trying to squash out racism.

(52:24):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And this. How dare I, How dare we want in
military that doesn't have active cells of hate groups
riddled throughout it. Yeah.
I mean, you've heard of the order before.

(52:45):
If not, I will. I will bring you up to speed
eventually. But you know, it's a it's a hate
group that was started as an offshoot of one of the white
nationalist parties that we talked about in one of our first
couple series that we talked about.
It sprung from that and has found a home in the United

(53:05):
States Army. I mean, there are there are
terror cells within the United States Army, there are terror
cells within the United States police forces all across this
country. Fascist, not fascist, but
forces, military forces, police forces, things where there is
inherited, inherited power dynamic between regular people

(53:30):
and people who are supposed to be seen as like the guardians of
society when you have those being.
How? How can you police people?
Who watches the Watchmen? Yeah.
Right, who watches the Watchmen?But the military is full of it,
like I said. But we, we have to be fair here.
Not every soldier we saw it withMark Miley just a second ago.

(53:51):
Not every soldier, their family or those who are relate to the
soldiers feel like what Trump isdoing is good.
These fine men and women that make up the armed forces were
put in harm's way through our government's inaction and lack
of leadership. Knowing that these burn pits
were hazardous, hazardous to their health then and now, the

(54:12):
GOP is doing its level best to reduce the efficacy of the one
agency that is designed to take care of these people.
The lack of resources they provide these soldiers before,
during and after combat is shameful surgery.
You brought it up earlier. Not only we're talking about the
VA from a physical health perspective, but when they're
out, before they get deployed, after they get deployed, during

(54:36):
deployment, they're not taken care of because, you know,
you've got folks who come back, I mean.
The one in Arizona was closed down for a while because the
conditions were so deplorable and it didn't have the fun.
Deplorable, they say. Deplorable, Deplorable.
And we're talking about a red. Well, I don't know if it's a red
state, but. It's a red state.
It's pretty red. It's.

(54:57):
With a little purple tinge to it.
It's the Texas dream. Every every liberal has this
Texas dream for the Southwest. New Mexico, Texas, Arizona are
going to become this like blue purple state thing.
But there there's at least some Democratic senators that are are
there? Sure.

(55:18):
But Ruben Ruben Diagos is the representative.
So we, I mean, it's between, youknow, some of the big cities
that there there's hope kind of like North Carolina.
So, you know, I put it more so than Texas, but but I don't
know, man. I don't know, man.
I feel like, I feel like North Carolina, Texas, Arizona.

(55:44):
I feel like those are sometimes Ohio, I feel like.
What about Georgia? I feel like maybe Georgia here.
No. Well, I mean Georgia, I feel
like Georgia, OK, so Georgia, North Carolina, Texas, Arizona,
now Wisconsin, I feel like thoseare like states that.
Michigan. The the left thinks they can win

(56:06):
specifically in the South, and Ijust don't think they've got the
support they think they do And that, and maybe that's just me
being a negative Nelly. I tend to look on it half.
There's a negative Nelly in six or three.
But I just, I don't know, I see,I see Arizona as a lost 'cause I
don't, I just Maricopa County isthey're doing everything they

(56:30):
can to, to, to, to Jerry Mayer, to the fuck out of that shit
even more than before. But Carrie Lake has not been
elected yet. Yeah.
Carrie Lake's a fucking lunatic though.
Like she's AJ6 denier. She's like, she's crazier than
shit. Like Marjorie Taylor Green did
really good in her district, butlike the state would never have

(56:51):
her. The the the state of Georgia
would never have Marjorie TaylorGreen.
You know, I don't know. But her district would, because
they're all fucking back. But no, back to the point,
though, Like, I, I, I, I think that Marjorie Taylor Green just
wouldn't do well across the state.
But I I outside of Arizona in Maricopa County, I understand

(57:16):
like those are, that is, that islike the hub.
But outside of that, the Democrats have nothing and
you're not going to hit them, but you're not going to put
enough work in in Arizona because they're worried about re
securing the Rust Belt. But you don't need to worry too
much about the rest because it'swithin those three cities that
are in Chandler. Scottsdale and Phoenix are

(57:38):
together that have 7 million people there.
That's and where it went. Tucson is a college town, so.
Yeah. And every place that was
Cydonia, you know, as what? Yeah, but I mean, like they're
not doing like there are still enough people holdouts.
Like it's a blue dot. It's a really Big Blue dot in a

(57:59):
really red state. I, I guess my hope with, with
the Southwest is that it's got, especially now when we're
talking about this birthright citizenship stuff that's going
on. And then you have the prevalence
of so many Latino Americans thatI mean, the, the Democratic

(58:19):
Party needs to really not take it for granted and really go out
and try to figure out what are the issues and things that,
that, that population wants. But, you know, I, I think that
there's some things that are coming out with this
administration that hopefully will galvanized.
Yeah, yeah. But the Democrats don't have a
plan right now. What have you heard from them?

(58:40):
I've heard nothing. I I've I've got hope with.
What is this hope attached to though?
Well, my hope is that we have people like Cory Booker, Chris
Murphy and AOC that are kind of becoming these big rallying
points. Chris Van Holland, even within
Maryland that is doing his thingto try to get Abrico Garcia

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back-to-back to the United States.
And so I think as things, the only thing that's I, I guess
that we can really think about is that it's only been 100 and
some days within this presidency.
And this has been the most chaotic 100 days, probably since
the last Trump presidency. I'd say probably since like

(59:24):
Andrew Jackson. Yeah, when they raided the White
House and and made the Cherokeesor the Seminoles the.
Cherokee, yeah. But.
He did, He did. He did the the Seminoles before
he came back to DC. But you, you just think of the
chaos that that's going on rightnow and it is especially when

(59:46):
we're talking about these, this budget bill that they're going
to try to get. The big beautiful bill.
They say they called the big beautiful bill for a reason,
Sergio. But it's going to be really
hard, I think, to be able to sell, especially when when you
talk about royal hospitals and red states.
When they're barely staying afloat and if you're going to

(01:00:06):
cut, you know, however many 1,000,000 billions of dollars
for Medicaid or you know, work to to get your insurance when
you're you're just drowning people with paperwork to qualify
for it, that it, it's, it's going to have some
repercussions, some major repercussions.
I guess maybe this is a larger meta question, one that I don't

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think I was prepared to to to think about during the show, but
like, do you? Think that's going to sway
enough? People.
You know, I think when I've saidthis in a previous episode, I
think when you start messing, maybe not even with with people
with Medicaid, even though it's going to be a large population,

(01:00:51):
but it's going to be a population again, in a lot of
red states. It's not just urban cities and
people of color that are are getting Medicaid.
There's a lot of people that areout in rural areas that, that,
that receive those services. Then I'm also thinking about
Social Security when you're talking about making these big
cuts to Social Security and having people that are waiting

(01:01:14):
hours and hours in line to be able to talk to people and why
their benefits are getting changed around.
That's a population of people that fucking vote.
And if you piss them off, they're, they're, they're going
to, they're going to vote. Let me ask you this question
then. Ask me this is like an
interview. Let's let's do it.
If you are the Democrats, how doyou How do you lock up a

(01:01:37):
population that has reliably went red in every election,
probably since the Kennedy election?
I, you know, I, I again, I, I think you just take it back to

(01:01:58):
going and not trying to get super complicated when it comes
to the insurance and outs of thelawyer speak of these policies
and bills, but just say, like, if, when you elect these people,
they're passing this, this bill that's going to cut take 8
million people off of Medicaid that need these services.

(01:02:19):
And it's not, you know, where welfare moms with they, they
like to paint it. They just like all these
teenagers that are hanging out and playing video games and not
working. I think a lot of the statistics
show that a lot of people are working one and two jobs, but
those jobs don't pay a lot of money.
And so they're getting this benefit of insurance through the

(01:02:41):
state. And I think that's, I think if
you can convey that. And then just tying them into,
we're talking about these cuts for people that make over
$1,000,000 in their household orif you make $30 million or 30 or
$40 million that you don't have to pay an inheritance tax.
And so they're making the rich richer, and you have to be able

(01:03:02):
to tie that message in to make it relatable.
Right. But so then my question then is
and and maybe I want to the Nazis said and the fascists
said, look, giving your money tothe state is only going to make

(01:03:23):
for a stronger state. Like the the point is to make
our state stronger. You want a strong Germany, don't
you? You are willing to make a
sacrifice, right? And we've already heard people
on the right ad nauseam talk about how they're willing to die
for Trump or invade a Capitol building for Trump or you know,

(01:03:44):
you know. Buy Bitcoin.
And and take it, take it on a loss too, right?
And these are people who are willing to with it, no uncertain
terms, do whatever they can to, you know, appease the leader,
appease their God, their God figure, right.
Do you really, and this is, and this is to me, a genuine

(01:04:07):
question. Do you really think that these
people who have already denied the fact that January 6th this
happened and that Trump had anything to do with it
happening? Maybe not that they denied
January 6th itself, but like. That the 2020 election was
stolen and stuff like that. Do you?
Think for one second that they are going to be they're going to
be able to untangle that Gordianknot of not even Gordian knot,

(01:04:30):
but for them, the Gordian knot of disconnecting themselves and
their allegiance to a man who they see as their literal savior
in some cases. And go I'm voting against that
because the because AOC who's promising everyone healthcare
who they already hate. My question, I guess isn't about
Trump. It's is the well so poisoned at

(01:04:54):
this point that that population does not see the Democratic
Party as an option. And if you are the Democrats and
you want to appeal to them, you're actually just getting
pulled to the right in order to sell that message.
So I think it's a multi layered response, right?
I think that one of the things Ithink that you're always going

(01:05:17):
to have your diehards, right, that are going to be the live,
pray, sleep, MAGA folks. And I think that's a smaller
population. I think there's a population of
evangelicals. I think there's a population of
a rich businessman that are going to be like, well, Trump is
going to, you know, we're going to make a lot more money with
him being able to do what he does.

(01:05:39):
But I think at some point that he's going to alienate himself
because you even have Laura. Laura Loomer is the one that's
coin against and she's a fuckingpsychopath, racist piece of shit
who is is screaming about this gift that he got from the

(01:06:01):
airplane that he got from Qatar.And so you're going to have
factions. And there is other people that
were saying, Oh yeah, welcome tothe swamp, Donald Trump.
I think Shapiro said that. And so I think you're going to
have your diehards that are going to start to faction off of
it because you have you, you. He is enriching himself

(01:06:22):
currently, but he's not following through with this
message of ethnic cleansing and trying to scare people and
deport, you know, brown, brown people and black people from the
United States. So I think that's the, the party
is going to be a lot more factioned.
And I think that, you know, whenyou have people that

(01:06:46):
unfortunately are going to get sick or get hurt at work and
they're not going to have insurance, they're going to be
like, well, I need to fucking survive.
I need people that are going to,you know, put this in policy.
And I think the other thing to even attach on top of that is
that even with this new budget plan, there's still going to be
a couple of trillion dollars of debt that they're going to cut.
So they're not really cutting the fat.

(01:07:06):
They're still going to get the debt ceiling higher than what it
was and yet they're they're going to give tax credits to the
top 1% people. But anyway, back to our story
and back and let's finish this episode.
So like the rest of us, the military is made-up of
multitudes. And hopefully, hopefully, as the
political temperature continues to rise in our country, the men

(01:07:27):
and women in uniform who are here to safeguard the
Constitution, remember what Mark, General Mark Miley had to
say and stand up to this thug wannabe king and dictator and
stand for the Constitution and which they swore to uphold.
And, and, and you know, my grandfather, you know, Master

(01:07:48):
Charge in the army taught me to respect the flag.
You know, it's just a, it's a piece of fabric.
But like the idea I think is what he wanted me to respect,
the idea that men and women havedied for this place.
And even if you don't agree 100%, and I definitely don't
with what's going on and what they have fought for, those are

(01:08:10):
met. Those are still people and
they're made-up a multitude justlike the rest of us.
They're, they are your neighbors, they are your, your
friends, your family. And they deserve to be treated
with fucking respect. They deserve to be given
healthcare. They deserve to not have to
fucking live next to a burn pit for 12 months and then come home
and be homeless without a job, without any resources provided

(01:08:33):
for them. And they deserve so much more
because they are willing to giveup their lives, whether or not
it's it's, it's something that you and I would do or think is
of is a smart play on their behalf.
They're willing to do it. And if they're willing to do
that in this fucking country should be willing to do
everything they fucking can to take care of those men and

(01:08:54):
women, period. That is, that is that to me,
that is, that is a, that is a failure of our state, of our
government and of specifically this government.
Sergio, I want your final thoughts.
I, you know, I was just kind of reflecting to, you know, I think
of a lot of the kids that I workwith that go to the military

(01:09:14):
because the military provides a great opportunity for them.
That's not college that they canlearn the discipline.
They don't have to take out a lot in debt when it comes to if
they want to continue education or if they have no plans.
They, they, they get trained, they get room and board, they
get fed. It's, it's a, it's a great

(01:09:38):
option for a lot of kids that don't have other options.
But I am totally jumping on youryour back and piggybacking on it
that if you you can't be a country where you you appraise
the military and you want to have a military parade for your
birthday party and. It's not that you would have a
military you want to Co opt the military pre that was already

(01:10:02):
scheduled to happen and now you want to make it yours because
yourself. Such a selfish piece of shit.
These men and women the migrant.I I I take great issue with this
because my dad was a former airman, my grandfather is a
former armyman, master Sergeant.All of his brothers were Navy
officers. All of them, and for some piece

(01:10:26):
of shit. Yeah, who?
Who? Never served too fucking chicken
shit to fucking do it. Brothers in laws, fucking
cousins, people who are directlytied to me.
Again, this isn't a knob slob session, but have some fucking
respect for these men and women who are willing to give up their

(01:10:48):
lives so you can be, you know, some chess player over here
moving bodies around like they're just fucking useless and
it brings me so much anger. My grandmother still takes
benefit from the from the country for what my grandfather
did and what she did to support him.
It's disgusting. It is a fucking smack in the

(01:11:10):
face. It's so grotesque.
I'm sorry I I wanted your thoughts, but it makes me really
angry, man. It really does.
It fires me up. And, and it fires me up too,
not, not to the same kind of extent that that it does for
you, but again, you have people that are making the ultimate
sacrifice that a majority of Americans aren't, aren't doing.
And then you're going to continue to cut the services and

(01:11:31):
resources for them. Like people should be able to
come back and not ever have to worry about anything really
after after serving if they leave with an honorable
discharge and stuff. Like that.
Yeah. And I don't want to leave out my
friends, by the way, who who have honorably served.
I have several friends of mine. I had one that died.
Yeah, and that and, and the factthat their honor that that their

(01:11:52):
memory is being tarnished by some piece of shit who's not
willing to fucking go out of their way to make sure like.
That they're taking care of. An entire party.
An entire party of people. That but also claims that
they're the party of the military all.
Right, well, that's that's my therapy for the week.
What about you Feel feel good? As crappy like I'm not going to

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drive in town coming traffic on the way home but.
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