May 27, 2025 • 71 mins
This week the guys chat about the week that was.
Join us, wont you?
Links:
- https://theconversation.com/how-redefining-just-one-word-could-strip-the-endangered-species-acts-ability-to-protect-vital-habitat-256424
- https://theconversation.com/trump-is-stripping-protections-from-marine-protected-areas-why-thats-a-problem-for-fishings-future-and-for-whales-corals-and-other-ocean-life-254925?utm_medium=article_native_share&utm_source=theconversation.com
- https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/may/20/sea-level-rise-migration
- https://youtu.be/q8mi9seWZ6w?si=0JJVFqLf26Dk8dBZ
- https://rebellion.global/get-involved/
Ear Worm:
- https://open.spotify.com/track/4Liuyhn3c3vm948uxATwUw?si=auhpTtRzSLmTD2UFj1TfuA
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This is at the extremes. Blue Safarians, welcome back to
At the Extremes, the podcast where we discussed the extremes
in our society and how we got here.
As always, we're host, I'm Greg,and today we're going to be
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discussing the week that was. But before we get into it,
Sergio, catch this. What is this, the Blue Pony
Club? That's a.
That's a. That's a proper Lucifer hat.
Oh yeah. Brought to you from the folks at
Totality of Chaos on Etsy. So yeah, big, big shout out to
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the Etsy shot. We've got matching hats now
we've got. Matching T-shirts, too.
We have matching T-shirts. We're full Blucifer now.
This is a Blucifer Forward podcast.
I was going to say, all hail Blucifer.
All hail Blucifer. All hail the mighty, mighty
Blucifer. God damn it, he's.
He's the almighty. He's going to take us to the
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next level. Lucifer is so Sergio, let's now
that we've done an on air gift exchange and we've we've given
our Our Daily Bread to Lucifer. Yes, Why don't you eat me with
the silver lining there, bud? Silver lining.
So I got a chance to go up to the Northeast to hang out with a
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friend, one of my my, my, my best friends ever.
And he is a support of the podcast, but his feedback was
that we we need more Judy on it.He he was like, man, she's the
one that sounds really educated.You dopes being able to go up to
the northeast, hang out. Went on a really, really nice
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hike, ate lots of great food, drink, lots of good beer.
The weather was really nice, Notnice.
I, I should say. It was raining a a bunch, but it
was it, it was doable. Growing up in, in the Northwest,
you just put a rain jacket and rain pants on and just kind of
do what you do. This is I'm blabbering a little
bit for a second, but do you know what an alewife is?
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No. So there was a, a bar restaurant
down in Baltimore City that was but so it's a, it's AI think
it's a trout, it's a fish, but it's a migratory fish that's out
in sea and it almost makes waveslike the salmon do.
OK, So it, it, it comes through it, it's coming.
Oh, I, I'm going to come. But they, they will go up the
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river systems and to spawn and stuff like that.
So it's really neat. So we got to see that.
For me this week I think silver lining women Arsenal, they won
the Champions League. Come on, you gonna come?
On Arsenal, come on. I had a mate of mine send me a
video. She took her daughter to the
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Emirates today and they did the Champions League celebration and
like the videos were incredible.I mean they had you know, all
the streamers everywhere and like, you know, fireworks
popping off. So like, the Arsenal do an
incredible job of supporting their female players as well as
they do their men play male players.
So. Oh yeah.
So with that out of the way, let's go and take a real quick
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beer break. When we come back, it's time to
talk douche canoe and get into this week's nonsense.
So we're back. Let's talk about the douche
canoe of the week. Let's do it.
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All right, so he's back. The man who started the show,
Cody Crone, bring the star Cody.Cody Crone, the inspiration
behind this fucking show. I won't lie, I took a really
significant break, a long break from Cody.
Really. Oh my God, dude.
I've really dialed like I was like keeping like tabs on him
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like to see like he was saying, but he wasn't saying anything
that wasn't in the normal like mainstream of like conservative
politics and all that other stuff.
But he has done a lot of things recently and I was like, oh, OK,
well, let's, let's keep a, let'skeep a, a, a tab on him, see
what's going on. He boy, oh boy.
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This is your boy too. I.
Love I love a Cody Crud because he's crazier than he's really
crazy. He's amazing.
He's really crazy. He likes to come.
I'm going to come. First of all, he went to Mexico
to do some vacation dentistry, which is, if you remember him,
he hates brown people. So to go to dentist, to go to
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Mexico to get his dentistry doneis incredible.
Why would he do that? Well, it's cheaper there.
And if anything, Cody is like, he is very economically savvy.
We'll say that he, he, he. He outsourced the labor.
Yeah, he. Did I hate this guy so much?
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What a racist piece of shit. We.
We. We got to deport them all.
You're not good enough unless you're doing my teeth or like
some kind of service for me. I really hate Cody.
Oh God, what a fucking Dick. But no, So like, he, he goes to
Mexico, right? And he does his, his, his
vacation dentistry stuff, proving yet again that his grift
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is still paying off. Like he's got enough money to
go. I mean, even if you're going to
New Mexico to, to do vacation dentistry, it's still like
$3000. Like to get like, it's not like
veneers or whatever. It's not cheap, right?
Like his grift is still paying off.
He, he also lost 40 lbs. I'm going to show you a real
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quick picture. He lost 40.
Pounds. So if I remember correctly, like
he was. Fluctuated.
He always fluctuated, but like Ithink like his like carrying
weight was like 185 lbs but likeso like alright, I'm going to
also post this picture in the link right, So it.
Should be the thumbnail. God almighty look at this
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though, like so like obviously he's pushing his stomach out
here. Day one, 290 lbs Day 41183.
So like, I don't know about the Ozempic of it all, but like this
dude lost a significant amount of weight.
Like fair play to him. Like he's in his.
For him. He's in his 50s.
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Like, like, look at the picture.Like he looks good.
Like he's got muscle again, likeyou can see, like he's not like
in bad shape. So yeah, so he you know, he, he,
he loses all this weight. But the one thing that actually
kind of like helped me a little bit was a clip that he posted
the. Very things that they're saying
about killing and genociding theboar.
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I have never seen a head of state so uncomfortable as that
man fidgeting while he's watching the very thing that he
denied took place. Now he puts everyone in a
position where they have to support him.
Not the right, not the left could oppose it because if you
oppose what you saw, there you are.
You oppose. You're basically you're for
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genocide. You have to agree with him.
It's the most brilliant political move I've seen that I
maybe I've ever seen. You have to go watch it.
It is. What?
So before we get to what you're going to bring up here, because
we both have the same thought here, I want you to note above
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his head, he's got a sign that says Volcom, which is like
German, Swedish, like some shit that he like picked up, but it's
it's in German, right Volcom. And then over his left shoulder
is in loaded AR50. Yes, yes it is.
It's a scope right there too. He has not changed.
I'm so glad in the time that we took like a break from him that
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he has not changed up until thispoint.
But getting back to your point, genocide.
I've been listening to a little bit about this and it just seems
like when he when the Donald was, I haven't heard him be
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referred as that. Since since they took it down
off of Reddit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that basically he was just printing off.
There's nothing research. It's Facebook like posts that
people had that he just printed out.
Well, you know, I think before we go any further, I want to
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bring people up to speed. If they haven't seen or heard
what's happening, I want to bring them.
Up to speed. Yeah, let's bring them up to
speed real quick. Excuse me, turn the lights down
so. Before, before we fully get into
this, President Ramaphosa out ofSouth Africa comes to the White
House to talk with Donald Trump.Ramaphosa is a black man, a
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black South African who came with the contingent of white
Afrikaners, Afrikaners being andand golfers and.
Ernie Ells and. White Afrikaner golfers, yes,
yeah. So folks who he thinks are going
to play into Donald Trump's likeworld a little bit because.
Donald Trump loves the golf. And he doesn't trust black
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folks. So he's like, let me bring as
many white folks as I can with me.
And they are S Africaners. They're the.
Blacks love me. They love me in South Africa,
they say. But Afrikaners come with
Ramaphosa and this is what ends up happening as a.
So hold on, but before just thisis going to be a quick history
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lesson. So Afrikaners are descendants of
the Dutch who came and colonizedSouth Africa.
They are a minority of South Africa but they've been there
for 3-4 hundred years and they own a majority of the land, the
farming land and created apartheid which was basically
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like Jim Crow laws which. Didn't end until like 96.
Yes. And so they've been in power.
You've. Been a lot.
If you're listening to this podcast, most of you, based off
of our stats, all of you know what it means.
Yes, Ramaphosa, though, here is Trump confronting Ramaphosa on,
quote, genocide claims. Just put this on, it's right
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behind you. These are burial sites right
here, burial sites, over 1000 ofwhite farmers.
And those cars are lined up to pay love on a Sunday morning.
Each one of those white things you see is a cross and there's
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approximately 1000 of them. They're all white farmers, the
family of white farmers. And those cars aren't driving to
stop there to pay respects to their family member who was
killed. And it's a terrible sight.
I've never seen anything like it.
They told you where that is, Mr.Prince.
Where is that I'd? Like to know where that is?
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It's my one of my favorite partsof this entire showdown of.
People. Death, death, death, Death,
death, death. What you saw the speeches that
were being made, one, that is not government policy.
We have a multi party. I think we could stop there.
Like, I'm not trying to talk take away from President
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Ramaphosa from his his. Defending himself.
And against Trump there, but like boy, oh boy, like we're
talk like this is this is. Going down at Facebook.
It's not even Facebook. It's 4 Chan.
It's Gab. It is 8 Chan.
Elon Musk whispering in this here that this is what's
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happening. It is ultra right wing white
nationalist talking points that that Donald Trump is parroting
back to the president of South Africa.
Who's going? I don't know where this is at.
Yeah. What are you talking about?
Where? Where is this happening that
you're talking? About it's my country and I
don't know what you're talking about because you're the crazy
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uncle in the room who is talkingabout absolute nonsense.
I think the thing that's really striking to me is the fact that
you have Donald Trump that is spitting all this stuff that is
clearly not backed by any kind of fact and but is allowing it
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to, to just progress. And for him to be able to say
this on a big stage that this ishappening.
And you, you have Elon Musk, who's South African, who's
probably said that, you know? Oh no, he's definitely like he
is 100% behind. But the thing that's super crazy
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is that right now that what the the Department of Homeland
Security is taking away Harvard's right to be able to
have foreign students that are either going to have to transfer
to other schools or or or whatever, or get deported or
lose their status. And then yet you let 26 white
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Afrikaner farmers come in that are having genocide.
Yeah, I think I said something in our blue sky about like
immigrants not welcome unless you're a white South African
African owner. Like that's literally where
we're at now. One of the things that really
frustrates me and. And maybe.
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It all frustrates you. I mean, everything frustrates me
at this point. Shit I fucking some asshole at
the grocery store earlier today could not check themselves.
Like don't show up to a self checkout line if you can't do
the job, you know what I mean? You can't just read the
instructions that are. On the screen, like what are you
doing? Like you beep, beep.
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It's not that. Anyway, let me get back to the
point. The point is this.
That person should die. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
Duh. But you know, President Rafosa
is there. He's ambushed with this shit,
right? Like this is the second time the
Trump administration has done this with or another world
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leader, right? Like they did with Solinsky, you
know. They're they're trying to use
weaker and I'm I'm using air quotes when I say that weaker
nations. Weaker nations in terms of like
they don't have like the, the, the financial prowess or the
military prowess that the United.
States and the United States canjust shit on them because you
see that he's not doing that to Putin.
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He is not doing that to any of the the the big boys.
No. And Putin just decided, I think
it was over the weekend to drop a record number of drone
strikes. So that's cool.
And Donald Trump, apparently he had something to say about that.
But like, too late. Like we all saw this coming.
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Well. Didn't he say that he was going
to solve the conflict? Day one, day one No before day
one before day one. That and Israel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're all still
there. We're a. 100 and something plus
days now with. Still there waiting, donating
money to Israel to kill childrenand keep food from getting into
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Gaza. We're doing great.
I'm going to come. Oh, I'm going to come.
Our original douche canoe was going to be Derek Chauvin and
the right wing and their push toget him pardoned.
So Derek Chauvin died five yearsago.
At this point, this five year anniversary of death, I'm sorry.
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George Floyd five years ago died.
Yes. So Derek, Derek Chauvin is the.
Police officer. Yeah, I'm sorry, I misspoke.
Yeah, that was going to be the original douche canoe, but Cody
showed up on my timeline. I just could not resist bringing
Cody back into the show. So we have the what?
What? It's our mandate from our
listeners to not do the same douche canoe every week.
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So. And Cody has never and
officially a douche canal. No, no, he was our first series,
but you know. Didn't get that title number.
One in your hearts #1 in your minds.
Heck yeah, beloved. Let's take a quick drinks break.
We come back. We'll look into the Trump
administration's focus on destroying the environment to
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make himself and those like him even richer.
Cool. Sergio, I want to start this
segment though with a question for you specifically.
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It's 2 park. You got any favorite state
parks? And if you do have a favorite
State Park, what's your favoritenational?
Park state parks don't don't interest me as.
Much you don't have a favorite Maryland State park.
No, not really because I I mean pataps was great.
Pataps was a good one. Pataps was a really really good
one, but I live really close to a a good.
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Baltimore gunpowder is good, too.
Gunpowder is really good. I don't like the trail.
So this is my big complaint whenI was out in the, the the
northeast is that the signage ishorrible.
And that's why I got lost because they have these signs
are just like, oh, trail and they don't say what trail you're
on or it's like follies double blue and whatever.
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It's fine. But so one of the things I love
about America is that our topography and our geography is
so incredible. We have the Rocky Mountains that
are 14,000 feet or 15,000 feet. We have the Cascade mountains,
we have desert, we have the lakes.
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We, we, we have the swamps down in, in Florida where you would
just have all of this amazing nature And one of the places
that for me that just kind of sticks out.
Like I love being out in the northwest with the, the, the
different mountain ranges and seeing the greenery, the pine
trees and all that is, is amazing.
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I love the southwest. I feel like the Southwest is, is
magical. I mean, you have old faithful,
you have all all these amazing parks in Montana.
Southwest to me is one of the most amazing areas where you can
just see the way the glaciers have carved out or the rivers
that have carved out. And you see the beautiful
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formations of the rocks that areonly going to be there for, you
know, another couple 100 years before they erode and fall over.
But the southwest for me is justit, it, it's pretty stunning.
But if you're not there during during the the heat of summer.
Yeah, it's breathtaking. It is incredible.
Do you have? A park then that you like to
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visit them, that you've visited,that you were like, Oh my God, I
can't wait to go. Back to this might sound super
basic, but I I don't, I would have a hard time thinking of
something more incredible than going to the Grand Canyon.
Going to the Grand Canyon and seeing, yeah, just Sedona that
that Northern Arizona is, is beautiful.
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There is something breathtaking about it.
It it, it's just really, really incredible to see that the
Colorado River has cut through. Did all that.
All that over thousands and thousands of years so.
Yeah, but if you're going to askme like, where does your heart
go for a National Park, boy oh boy, Crater Lake.
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Crater Lake is a good fucking one.
I like it. Like, it's either that or
Yosemite, like for me, like the,the grandeur, like the, the,
the, the, the amount of size, yeah, like you cannot compute.
It's huge. It's gigantic, they say.
It's girthy. Very girthy.
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It's so girthy, the girth, they say.
So yes, I I had jumped in that lake, my my good friend Henry
that I, I. Saw in New England we had done
it together. We jumped.
Oh, sure. Yeah.
Yeah. So.
Shout out Henry. Yeah, shout out, man.
Big, big listener of the pod. And the other thing that's
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really important too, One of thecool things about being in Maine
and and New England is that theyhave some of the best tap water
that you'll ever have. How's the water pressure though?
Fantastic. God damn it.
Yeah, having good water without water pressure.
But it just having been able to drink out of the tap is
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fantastic. No fluoride, say.
No fluoride. Susquehanna is a good one, but
Deep Creek that's probably my favorite.
Part. I've never been there.
Oh. My God, All right, we got a, we
got a whole tour we're doing. You know, I think I remember
being in college and just being obsessed with being out there.
And, you know, you end up in like these like little like the,
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the, the highest waterfall in, in, in the state is out at Deep
Creek. You know, it's one of those
places that has the most environmental diversity in the
country, in the country in the state.
So there's a Baldwin that's nearnearby.
There's a Marshall that's nearby.
Like at that elevation you wouldnot expect it.
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But all these incredible landscapes and I can't quite
explain why, but but. It's really important that, and
I know the demographic that we attract to this is into nature
and stuff like that, but it's super important to support your
local and federal and national parks because they're one of the
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natural treasures that we have. And we're going to deep dive
into some really sad stuff that you all will all need to I know
about. It wrong there.
But it is so it's life changing to be able to go see these
amazing things that have been created not by man.
Yeah, Like, I remember we were out in Rocky Mountain State Park
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and we saw a Caribou, and it wasmy first time seeing an animal
that large in the wild. And I was like, Oh my God, this
is a gigantic. Like, I mistake it for a moose,
and moose are even larger, right?
And I was like, Oh my God, this is incredible.
But like, it's like things like that where you're like, all
right, you know, I'm in this National Park with the State
Park, blah, blah, blah. And you realize just like, kind
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of like how small you are. Absolutely.
And like that, I think that's like the grounding thing for me.
Being out in nature is like. That these patterns have have
happened for thousands, hundredsof thousands, millions of years
with these migratory patterns that have happened with.
We're just in the way. Yeah, we're just in the way
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eons, eons and neons and eons worth of time have gone by where
these animals just do their thing.
And I say all this because the Trump administration last week
redefined language. We're burning it.
All in the Endangered Species Act that is going to do away
with much of those safe spaces that are being that they,
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they've are always been under threat and now they're going to
be under threat even more. If you take Trump at his word,
though, he's a guy who believes in fresh air, fresh water, clean
water. Like he's like, I'm a big clean
water guy. I love clean water, the cleanest
water you can get. He doesn't give a shit though.
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He doesn't. He only wants water for his golf
courses. Yeah, yeah.
And golf courses are one of the worst things environmentally in
the United States and probably in the world.
Well, if you think about it like.
The amount of water that you need to use to be able to get
the grass. Yeah.
And if you go like if we like extend that one step further,
like he's a real estate guy. He believes in waterfront
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property though. Waterfront property and.
When I hear these people talkingabout global warming, that's the
global warming you have to worryabout.
Not that the Ocean's going to rise in 400 years.
An eighth of an inch and you'll have more sea front property,
right? If that happens, I said, is that
good or bad? I said, isn't that a good thing?
If I have a little property on the ocean, I have a little bit
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more property. I have a little bit more ocean.
Shut the fuck up. Because The thing is.
It is. So obnoxious to hear that
because it's not about like an an eighth of an inch.
It's about these crazy hurricanes through the Gulf of
Mexico. Oh, I shouldn't say that.
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I don't want to get stopped by tea.
It's Memorial Day. You're kind of a Nazi, they say.
But Nazis? But to say that is, is insane.
You, you see what, what was it Hurricane Sandy or whatever that
came through the, the East Coastthat destroyed things.
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And you, you look to see the, astemperatures rise within these
warm areas, that's going to intensify things.
And so yes, maybe the the oceanswon't rise, but.
Woke sides, woke sides, woke sides, they say.
I'd like to talk to you about something called the Endangered
Species Act. Yes.
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From the Department of the Interior, the Endangered Species
Act, which we're going to call the ESA moving forward, so I'm
not going to say at all, was enacted in 1973 by Congress as a
response to the declining populations of many species of
animals and plants. The ACT was designed to protect
and recover species at risk of extinction and to promote the
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conservation of ecosystems and habitats necessary to their
survival. Each of these species is a part
of the web of life, right? It's the butterfly effect.
It's the circle of life. Some Lion King for you.
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With each unique cultural and biological community performing
services, this is back to the ESA that are essential for our
combined well-being. By conserving these things,
guided by best available science, we help protect healthy
air, water and land for everyone.
The ESA is important to protecting our most valuable
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resources, Our most valuable resource, rather the planet and
it good. The thing that we all need to
live on. Yep Yep.
If without it we're we're nothing but it's 1st 50 years,
the ESA has been credit with saving over 99.
Percent, 99%, that's. 99%. And.
You I just you don't get that kind of satisfaction from a
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medical surgery 99%. Dog and I'm I'm just thinking
like something like this agency is probably not getting funded
like the military. Not even close.
So what? Imagine.
Imagine. Imagine.
So if they got even 1/4 of what the military got.
I'm about to throw this microphone through the garage
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door that's like I'm about to lose it already.
I'm so angry search you we. We don't like people as much as
we like the planet, I swear. To God, could you imagine if we
stopped for one second donating,not donating, but giving our tax
dollars to a $50 billion aircraft carrier or, I don't
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know, spending millions upon millions of dollars scrubbing a
jet that was gifted by Qatar to the president?
And that's. Going to be a billion dollars to
do all that. To I want to die, I want to,
like, I, I want to throw myself off of a building sometimes when
I think about this stuff. Because when you're talking
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about 99% of species that were listed as endangered being
saved, it kills me to think thatwe're about to do anything
different. But we are.
The American Bald Eagle is the best example of species recovery
due to the ESA, with numbers having increased now to a point
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where they are officially no longer threat as a listed as a
threatened species, and in fact they're being listed as a
species of Least Concern. And I've seen in the last even
couple months of few bald eagles.
Fragilings all over the place. Yeah, they're all over the
place, and that's a great thing,for Raptors are incredibly
important, much like wolves to our environment, and they
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control animals that can get outof control if they're not
around. It's the white tailed beer.
White tailed deer in the east string portion of the United
States are fucking rampant because we don't have wolves to
kill them. We have.
Cars. It's a really good point.
Yeah, the cars are the only thing that really.
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And the hunters? And they don't and and you can't
do enough to keep whitetail deerdown and they and as a result,
they are now not whatever. I'm not.
Well, they, they eat, you know what?
For people that live in this area, they're the ones that are
eating your plants, they're eating your vegetables.
And that's why you need to put up things that are natural deer
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deterrents like. Coyote urine and fox urine to
scare them off. Or also plants like Patchouli,
like things that are like net, Alaska, lemon, lemon ball.
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thing. We've never done it. 1800
ayahuasca. That's ayahuasca.
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It should come as no surprise though that the GOP and the MAGA
contingent want to roll back these protections of the ESA
because they hate beauty. They hate.
They would rather you work in a mill, go to some cookie cutter
run the mill home that you live in, and wash your SARS away by
drinking unforidated water and watching the Animal Planet
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instead of being out in it. They want this to happen.
Because they want to exploit theland, they want to be able to
let the rich farmers and cattle ranches be able to graze on on
this land and not have this for conservation because they don't
don't value it is important. They want to exploit the land.
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Anytime a business wants to develop a building, wants to
drill, wants to log, anytime they want to do some major
economic activity, there's a host of environmental
regulations that that industry needs to abide by.
What President Trump is trying to do here with the Endangered
Species Act and with a lot of other environmental regulations
is cut that red tape. So when the Endangered Species
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Act was established in 1973, themain framework of that of that
act was to protect critical habitat for threatened and
endangered species. And So what it did was it
established the definition of harm, meaning you can no longer
harm an animal if it could lead to that.
Things that I just remember in one of Trump's campaign speeches
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was that we can't do windmill and energy because it's killing
all the birds. And so we're talking about
killing all the birds, but then yet we want to destroy all the
old growth forests that they live in.
So like, what the fuck? Yeah.
And so the the the person that we just heard from is Tracy
Wolf. She's the senior coordinating
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producer on climate reporting atCBS News.
And she was just kind of walkingus through what Sergio was
talking about there, which is like, hey.
You know what? Fuck CBS.
Because. Well, yeah, there's a lot.
Wrong there. There's a lot with CBS going on
right now because they are basically settling with Donald
Trump so that they can try to get a merger with Paramount and
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make billions of dollars. And so they're going to say they
they had one of their journalists that was getting
scrutinized because Trump was saying that he had edited or
they had edited Kamala's, KamalaHarris's, and they didn't stand
up for him. And they're just going to settle
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that even though they would havewon.
Well, yeah, they would have won because they also aired the
portion of the interview they said was altered.
They they aired that and was it is still available on YouTube.
You can go and watch the quote unedited version of that
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interview. And let me be very clear, her
answer incredibly fucking clunky.
She was not right. Let me come back.
Incredibly clunky answer from Kamala on that that piece of the
interview that they did not air in like the prime time spot, but
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is still available on YouTube. So you can find that.
It's not like they didn't make it available.
They just for time and expediency sake.
I imagine you have to make some choices editorially speaking.
I mean, I've done that 1000 times on this podcast.
Like there are just some things that are worth hearing and there
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are some things that aren't. I know it's like 90% of the
things I say get cut. That's a true statement because
it's about me. I can at least admit to it.
I know that I'm a crazy person. Yeah, but you, you articulate
yourself a lot better than I do.That's not that I'd do that, but
anyway, so Tracy Wolf again, that that's the, the, the woman
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that we just heard from. She later goes on to say that
the administration proposed a rule change that would
essentially prohibit only actions that directly hurt or
kill actual animals, not the habitats, habitats that they
rely on. So like you, if you're not going
out and killing a wolf and you're just destroying the, the,
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the woods that they live in, theforce they live in, it's not
actual harm. So like you don't have to worry
about it, right? They want to essentially, they
want to make sure that any, any regulation, they want to
deregulate all of it, right? If finalize the change would
make it easier to log mine buildon lands that are endangered
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species need to thrive. The butterfly effect of it all.
It tells me that we're in for a world of pain if the
administration gets it's it's way and that's because
developing land is directly tiedto climate change.
And I don't know that you know in in in both the the the county
and the city. You know that we live around
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right now like there's so much growth and it like if you you
drive up 95, you know there there Lexus lanes is what I call
them right like HIV lanes are getting built out right now and
it is just you know by. Like coming up by you the the
amount of construction that's going on and the development
that's happened is price striking from 2025 years ago.
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So a newspaper from renowned climatologist James Hansen says
that unless carbon emissions aresharply cut, the point of no
return quote UN quote the shutdown of the Atlantic
meridotal overturning circulation.
That's a lot to swallow is. That's what she said.
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Hello, hello is likely in a 20 to 30 years, but it's a tipping
point, right? So we're talking about 20 to 30
years from now. But climatologists are are are
rediscovering new things every single day, every single year,
right? But this is what I'm saying with
that. Like it's 20 to 30 years and
it's a tipping point, but what'sgoing to happen is that we're
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not going to do this and we're going to fuck up the environment
and then we're going to wipe outhumanity and nature will come
back. Nature always comes back at some
point. Yeah, yeah.
Humans won't. No.
I mean, the world's been destroyed four or five times.
Yeah, and it's in existence, so we don't.
Have dinosaurs anymore? Yeah, but but nature's came back
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in other species. Because creation creationists
say that they existed with humans so.
Thank God for Jebus. Drebus, thank God for Lucifer.
Hail Lucifer hailed So, so this,this gentleman who wrote this
paper, right? It's a worrisome paper, right?
We're talking about the I don't want to talk with the end of the
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world, but it it's not, it's notgood.
It brings special focus to the quote most threatening tipping
point, the point of no return, which would be passed if it
becomes impossible to avoid catastrophic loss of West
Antarctic ice sheet and sea level rise of several meters.
The Antarctic ice loss would be triggered by a shutdown of that
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AMOC that we talked about earlier, the Atlantic meridial
returning circulation, the oceans conveyor belt, right?
So we're talking about, you know, things that we can't see,
right? Like it's it takes cold water
and warm water and it carries itNorth and South and it pulls it
apart for us because, you know, that's how nature works.
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It takes thousands of years to do this process.
The circulation is driven by sinking heavy Arctic water,
dense from cold water and salt. Melting ice injects fresh water,
which is lighter than warm water.
And to it flows, you know, into the circulation of this, this
process, which if we're keeping track at home, is not a good
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thing. It's a really bad thing.
Fish, whales, sharks, raise, to mention just a few species, are
already beginning to go further and further South and further
further north in order to hit their migration periods, to eat,
to breed, to do the things that these animals have been doing
for a fucking millennia. Like we're not doing enough.
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We're not doing enough. Or you can even go into the fact
that the oceans are warming and so the coral reef is dying.
We're bleaching. Coral reefs, everywhere we go,
everywhere that human beings are, we're not doing enough to
protect the environment, right? So if every year you and your
family had to go current stand to eat, to fuck, to like, sleep
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for like a long period of time, yeah, you could do it.
But fuck me, is that not a gigantic fucking inconvenience
to get to Kyrgyzstan to fucking drink and eat and like, be
merry? Yeah.
And to be able to continue the process so that your species
can. Continue on if you're a if you
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like, let's bring even closer tohome, right?
Like we all have heard about thesalmon who swim upstream and
blah blah blah. And the alewife that we just
talked about too and they're highly impacted right now by by
global warming. Right.
So you have to go further upstream every year and every
year and every year and like thewater gets thinner and thinner
like in terms of like the depth.Or it gets more intense when it
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comes to huge rainstorms that happened that where they can't
get up because they're too exhausted.
Yeah. Yeah, no, it's, it's it's a huge
fucking problem we're talking about.
But I, I, I want to take a real quick break and we come back.
I don't. I want to continue to get
depressed. Oh no, we're going to I promise
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you, I we're back.
So, Sergio, I'm going to share this picture link in the show
notes, but I just wanted to like.
What are all those red blushes that you have on?
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There, Yeah. I was going to say like we're
going to look at a map underneath where the threat of
the reversal in the position that the Trump administration is
trying to make and what that's going to affect the.
Map right now currently of the United States.
Yeah. And so it's a map of like the
dark red spots are where it's going to most affect the
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environment. And if you notice on this red,
dark, dark red map, it's a lot of like natural national parks,
a lot of like, like if you especially like you came out of
New England this past week a. Lot of it's in Maine.
And it is dark red, basically the entire state.
In Idaho and Montana. California, California.
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The Everglades specifically, andalso if you look up here in the
Alaska region, where a lot of the natural oil, yeah, a lot of
natural gas and oil is being is AT.
And this is all background for anew report that spells serious
trouble for kids your child's age.
Serbia, The Guardian published apiece that explains that sea
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level rise will cause catastrophic inland migration,
which is a scary sentence all initself, not only for the
environmental catastrophe that'sabout to happen, but the
immigration crisis that is continuing to happen and will
continue to happen as our environmental crisis continues
to ramp up day after day, week after week, year after year.
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I've been listening to a book periodically called The Camp of
Saints. The subtitle of that book is The
Chilling Novel About the End of the White World.
The book is a pretty notorious It's pretty notorious on the far
right anti immigration contingent.
And here's a quick summary of the major plot points for you.
Real quick, but they it's brokendown.
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We don't like brown people. Essentially, it's broken down by
4 major points, right? The Arrival The story this is
this is from. It's like the Turner Diaries or
whatever. Yeah, so I got like the like the
the quick like what the Cliff Notes version.
Did you ever do Cliff Notes during college or high school,
by the way? I feel like that's out of like,
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like out of sync now. But like, I feel like we're like
a cultural milestone at this point, like we did Cliff Notes.
I mean, I, I would never be ableto get through what Julius
Caesar and all those things thatI.
Yeah, yeah, 12 Angry Men was something I I used Cliff Notes
for. I didn't.
Watch that movie. I read the book, so here's a
quick summary of the book thoughthe arrival.
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The summary of the story centre is on a massive flotilla of
dilapidated ships carrying hundreds of thousands of
starving, destitute people from India heading towards France.
The story mainly focuses on something called the Western
importance. Instead of defending their
borders, Western nations, particularly in France, are
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paralyzed by guilt, political correctness and loss of cultural
self-confidence. They say this thing, They say
this thing, the. Too much.
So after there's a character in the book who watches this
flotilla that's hanging off the coast of France, and during the
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initial period of this flotilla being out to sea, like he starts
having these different conversations, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah. And then what they call the
quote invasion starts. The immigrants, portrayed in
unflattering and dehumanizing terms are allowed to land and
quickly overrun the French society, leading to chaos,
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chaos, violence and a collapse of social order.
God damn it. The next phase of this is called
the Collapse of the West. The novel shows the DD
integration of westerns institutions, values and culture
and as the overwhelming influx of immigrants leads to the end
of old order. And the last bit of this is the
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aftermath. The book concludes with the near
total destruction of Western civilization, replaced by a new
World order where traditional Western values and culturals are
extinct. The book is incredibly
influential for those who are part of the Dark Enlightenment
from former campaign strategistsin 2016 for the Trump
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administration, the by the name of Steve Bannon or Peter Thiel
or JD Vance, another illegally adherent.
Like I said, JD Vance, but another one of those being Marie
Le Pen out of France who read a LED a right wing fascist
political movement to. Almost one to be president of
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France, right? Yep.
Yep, and now she's in prison forembezzlement, so there's that.
Well, and her father was the thekind of the architect of all
that, right? He was, and he was also somehow
even more racist than Marie. From That's a hard That's a hard
pillow to swallow. That's a low bar.
That's a high bar to cross, really.
From thenewrepublic.com. The author Raspiel, he's a
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French author, by the way. The enemy is the entire non
white world. It tramples monks and white
savers alike in its invasion of France.
His refugees are nameless. They're they're caricatures with
no inner lives. Like he goes through this story
and I've been listening to this through what is it the Internet
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archive.org. And they have like this awesome
PDF reader thing that you can listen to this book if you want
it to. It's a terrible book, but if you
want to learn more about in. Regards of it just not being
well written. No, no, it's a really well
written book. But like if you want to learn
about like white racist theory, stuff like this is a fantastic
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starting point. Like if you want to learn about
like the extremes of like. Mindset of of where people are
coming from. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. If you want to understand like
where white replacement theory starts, this is in my opinion a
really good book to start with. You should never start with this
book. Fuck this book.
No you for research. Purposes.
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If you are somebody who's like I'm looking for a new book to
read on my like my book like club do not start with the camp
of age. It's a terrible book to be.
But he ascribes to most of them a supernatural combination of
obstinance and depravity. One of the first like stanzas of
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the book that he talks about the, the decaying smell of human
beings and human flesh on a, on a boat.
And I'm, I'm, I'm kind of going off script here for a SEC
because it was one of those like, I love it when you
freestyle it. It was a really moving passage,
right? Like if you're not, like if you
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don't know, like where this bookstarts, you go, Oh my God.
Like the Indian folks were out in the sea are like they're
causing all this chaos, blah, blah, blah.
But like, if you know what this guy's like intent is, it's
really just about like white replacement JD Vance kind of
shit, right? Like the Charlottesville March
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and stuff like. That yeah, you will not replace
us, right? He describes.
But it's not. But it's not you.
It's another word. Yeah, yeah.
Or you know, you know, in this case, you know French people are
being taken over by by the Indian subcontinent, right?
He ascribes to them an almost supernatural combination of
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obstinance and depravity. Like I mentioned, they are
savages led by literal A literalshit eater.
In the book he describes somebody who literally eat shit
who is the leader right And theyfoist poison dead upon the
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shores. Less So what they do is they
like in the book, like they eventually find themselves, you
know, with boats full of dead people and they come ashore and
like it spreads disease, right? And and that's before they even
get to France. So like, it's this like black
plague is coming thing, right? It's a really, really scary,
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scary book. Not not to think that it's so
outlandish, but this is it just seems like it's a recipe that
far right and people use to scaremonger people into
believing that immigrants are the cause of all the problems in
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the world world's ills. Yeah.
And for me, it's I I really struggle with it.
Like, I mean, I struggle with itin all aspects of life, but to
be able to even view another human being as a less than or an
invasion somebody that's it's aninvasive species that's coming
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into your country. And, you know, I was listening
to podcasts about it. That was just we are in kind of
the situation right now where wehave a lot of world leaders that
are talking about this invasion that is.
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Quote UN quote invasion. Quote, UN quote invasion, Yeah,
yeah, yeah. That is replacing white people,
that white people feel like theyhave almost an inherited value
to to rule. Yeah, yeah.
No, I, I, you know, we, you know, I was thinking about this
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while I was writing this up and kind of like doing some
research. As I did nothing.
No, not for that. But you know, that doesn't mean
that you didn't do anything. I'm busting your balls.
You can definitely do that because I.
Didn't I'm busting your balls. But like, you know, the idea
that like, all right, we have a situation where we have in our
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country right now, we have people who are being deported or
Harvard University is being toldthat like you cannot accept
certain people and blah, blah, blah.
Like this, This book was writtenhere in the 70s where this guy,
this Frenchman who was saying like, yeah, no, you, you, you
shouldn't come here and we're going to keep you away from it.
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And if you do come here, it's literally the destruction of the
West and leave it to the French.I'm kidding, but like.
The Afrikaners. Man, I, I, it's, yeah.
No, I don't know. I don't know.
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Back to the story, though. No, no, back to the just back to
the story. As our environmental catastrophe
continues to quicken and and unto like quicken to an
unrecoverable rate, the environmental migrants are going
to become more and more common. And that's not outside of our
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own country. There are going to be people, we
looked at this map earlier who are going to be affected by
this. Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi,
Alabama, like the entire Gulf isgoing to be affected by this.
Many parts of the West West Coast are going to be affected
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by this. Many parts of the East Coast
will be affected by this. And.
And you look at internationally,like Pakistan had one of the
most insane amount of floods that happened that displaced
hundreds of thousands, millions of people that were floods had
never had happened before and places were wiped out.
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How many once in a generation floods do you need to see in the
last 10 years before you start thinking maybe this isn't a once
in a generation thing? Yeah.
We're. Looking at each other just wide
eyed and we are shaking our heads.
We've already seen how migrants are dealt with in this country,
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right? Deplorably.
We've already seen it as those folks are legal or otherwise
right? They're legal, or they're
seeking asylum, or they've done everything correct for the last
however X amount of. Years, however long they're told
to deal with some arbitrary system.
Yes, where they go in to check in and do that and then they get
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sent to on a plane to Libya. Yeah, yeah, you're, you're not
wrong there. You know, I was thinking about
it earlier today and just like the whole the whole situation
being what it is around, you know, legal or quote, quote, UN
quote illegal people like I don't know how you make.
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Fuck, are you illegal? Like, as a human being, right?
How? Like Neil deGrasse Tyson, no
matter what you think of him, like he was talking about
something. I like him a lot.
You talk about something like the idea like, you know, you go
up into space and there are new borders.
There are literally none. And to think that like we've
created these arbitrary systems,right?
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But that's a different conversation for a different
day. You know, when you think about
like the environmental crisis that is coming, like we are,
we're we're not beyond the tipping point where we're so
close. And I don't see us slowing down
anytime soon. Freshwater and farmable land
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will become less and less abundant.
The Magra crowd worldwide, right?
Like the Viktor Orban's of the world, right, The hyper
totalitarian Putin's of the world and Xi Jinping.
And like all these folks who arehyper totalitarian, our own
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country at this point is hyper totalitarian at this point.
We'll continue to amp up racism and limit environmental migrants
from becoming citizens to countries that aren't so
dramatically impacted. And I I don't understand like.
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You know you understand it, but you don't understand it in the
sense that other people are like, what the fuck are you
doing? Yeah, I think I, I think I
understand it from a. A racist point of view.
And you're like, OK, I can understand that.
You don't want, you know. No, no, not even that.
I think. I think more, more, more, more,
in my opinion is like, all right, Like this is, this is the
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new war. It will come to our doorstep
eventually. You have no choice.
Environmental migrants are goingto become a thing.
It's a terrible, terrible place to be.
And you have people like Elon Musk who say like, oh, well, we
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can terraform Mars. Well, if you can do that, then
terraform the planet as it quickens, as it comes closer and
closer and faster and faster andfaster.
I actually want to point us backto what we started with, which
is Cody. Cody started.
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We win. We hate Cody.
Cody's a fucking Dick. Such a Dick.
He's such a Dick. One of the things that Cody, I
think the more and more I look at Cody for my further removed
space and again, I I, you know, I.
As you separate your emotional attachment to him from the
beginning, from when you first knew him to where he's at now.
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I think I'm more and more I lookat him, I feel like he's an
environmental fascist. We talked about this earlier on
in the like second or third episode where we talked about
environmental fascism. We talked about the the Pine
Tree riots, the that song, right?
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If you remember that they are. This is where we're at now.
Like this is where we could end up rather at least right?
Like the idea that like there's only but so much land.
So fuck you, you deserve to die because you're not the right
kind of American. You're not the right kind of
Christian. You're not the right kind of
whatever, whatever out group they want to set as a part of
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their fascistic kind of ideal system they've got in their own
mind. And all of a sudden you can see
where this ends up, right? Everyone starts wearing, you
know, some kind of indicator as to like, Oh yeah, well, we've
got like, so many freshwater things and you only get so much.
The right is already doing this.It's a different frame right
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now. It's jobs.
There aren't enough jobs to go around for everyone, including
those who, you know, don't go about participating, some
arbitrary system about citizenship or whatever
bullshit, right? But eventually it becomes about
living space, it becomes about freshwater, it becomes about
food. It's all playing out in front of
us. The things I struggle with with
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that is that you have definitely, you have these
enterprises that occur within the United States when it comes
to being able to exploit the land for energy resources.
But then you have people that have lived in coal country or
West Virginia. I think a lot of about West
Virginia and what they have to do.
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Sure. And back in the day you could
make a lot of money, but now it's being a lot more
manufactured and you're getting replaced by AI or machines and
now you have to deal with that. So how are you going to be able
to sell that to people that I mean, the whole war on poverty
was by Lyndon B Johnson to, to be able to combat poverty in
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America. And one of the main focus points
was Appalachia. Appalachia.
Appalachia. So for me, it's it's just
really, really hard because you have these systems set in place
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and you don't have people. They don't really care.
They don't care. Nobody cares.
I, you know, I want to disagree with you and I want to get my
final thoughts before I, before I turn it over to you, because I
think that there are people out there who care, myself included,
right? I think that the problem is that
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our capitalist system doesn't care.
And I think that that's, I thinkthat that is in turn the actual
issue, right? Like I don't think that the
individual human being doesn't care because I think if you
walked up to anybody, he went, hey, Sergio, do you care about
fresh water, fresh food? Do you care about things that
are going to extend your kids lives?
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Do you think that the the earth matters?
I don't. I don't think that anybody who
who's on the far right of thingswill go no, I don't think that
that matters. I don't think that anybody who
says, I don't think anyone says that go on.
But I'm a retortant with that isthat you will say, Oh yeah, this
doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
It's it's a super woke and. But I think if you start with
like, OK, like I, I, I, I often unfortunately think about this
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like when I'm in the shower especially.
But like if I was going to have a conversation with a friend of
mine or somebody who's in my family who doesn't necessarily
see eye to eye with me, but we can see eye to eye on the idea
that like. That you can beat them.
For sure, because they're idiotsand they're, you know, softies.
But like the idea that like, allright, you believe that you
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should have clean food, right? And they'd say, yes, most people
they're who do you know that goes, you know what forever
plastics in my food. No one just says that.
No one says that. No one's ever said that.
It is about how you vote and whoyou support to make sure those
things happen. Meanwhile, now that like we have
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50 plus percent of the country who thinks that RFK is like
doing an OK job? Like we're in a position now
where it's not about like what you and I think about on an
individual level or like what we're talking about an
individual level with people whomay or may not agree with us.
It's about somebody who you've never met before who goes,
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you're a crazy lunatic lefty forthinking that these things
matter if you have kids. These are my final thoughts.
I want to, I want to give my final thoughts, thoughts 1st and
I'm going to pass it over to you, Sergio.
And I have not planned out any of my final thoughts, so it's
just going to be sounding like. Well, hopefully, hopefully
during my final thoughts, you you, you, you find you can.
(01:02:27):
Organize myself. You find a thread if you have
kids, if you have nieces, nephews, neighbors whose kids
you don't hate. By the way, my neighbors kids I
don't really hate that much. I used to, but not anymore.
The old adage that an old man plants a tree not for himself,
but for those who come after himfor shade.
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That's the whole point. We're here not for ourselves,
but for the people who come after us.
It's not solely about us. It's not, you know, if there are
no more free spaces for us to goto, if there are no more
national parks to us for us to go to because they're drilling
the shit out of them. If we can't go to the Everglades
to see these ancient animals in crocodiles and alligators who
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are just floating through the Everglades living their lives.
Or the things that come out of the undergrowth of an old growth
forest in the Pacific Northwest,like these tiny little squirrels
that appear out of nowhere when you've left, who are just living
their lives because that's how they're supposed to live.
My God, it's not worth living ifwe don't have those spaces.
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What I mean is this, and I don'twant to judge, dread this
situation. I'm not trying to Sylvester
Stallone it. Judge away.
But some futuristic Jetsons without like the robot like made
situation where there are plumesof smoke billowing all over the
place. Meet the Jetsons.
(01:03:57):
That's that's Flintstones. Fuck.
But that's not that's not a world I want to live in.
It's not I, I'm not sitting heretelling you or you know, anyone
listening to this podcast that like it's worth you like giving
up your car or, you know, not going to, you know, a, a, a, a
major supermarket to go buy yourfood.
(01:04:20):
Like that's not what I'm here tosay.
We all live in this world and ifyou can make smart decisions
about shopping locally or going to like your local butcher or
whatever, like do those things, right?
That's not what I'm here to say.I just don't want groundwater to
be pop polluted by sludge like that Elon Musk is doing in
fucking Las Vegas or in fucking some small town in Texas now,
(01:04:44):
right? I don't want rivers and
mountains that I once hiked in Western Maryland when I was in
college to be owned by wealthy business owners who are strip
mining the shit out of. I want to take my nephew to
those places. I guess what I mean to say is
that if you're asking yourself what can I do, how can I help?
How can I move the needle forward?
(01:05:07):
Go to Rebellion, dot Global, getinvolved with local branch that
can help you to get smart and act locally, regionally, and
nationwide. But spend money at places that
prioritize your environmental activism and promote
environmental justice. This isn't just about making
(01:05:28):
sure you know that we're all acting locally and thinking
globally. Like we need to make sure that
the folks who are here in your community are benefiting from
environmental action. Like I said, it's important more
than now than ever that we take care of our planet.
It's our only fucking home. This has got to be our priority.
(01:05:51):
Organize, protest, and talk to your friends and your family who
think that the climate crisis isjust some hoax or whatever.
Like some bullshit they heard onright wing media from Alex Jones
or maybe fucking Cody Cronoff ofWrangler Star.
We've got to be in this together.
Nature has shown us through actslike the Endangered Species Act
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that if we give it time, it willrecover.
We only have one home and without our mother we are
literally nothing. Sergio to you for your final.
Thoughts. I hate you with all my soul like
you. You said all these beautiful
words and sentences and you can be like.
Blah, blah blah blah blah blah. I don't know if they were
(01:06:35):
beautiful, but I, I it's my anger coming out in in a, in
more organized way than I normally would.
So. Well, and you know, I, I agree
with you. I think one of the things that
we all have to recognize whetheryou vote Democrat, Republican,
is that you have these really, really sacred spaces that are
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amazing. If you go to the Grand Canyon,
you go to any of the 14,000 footmountains in Colorado, go to
Crater Lake. These are amazing feats of
nature that can be conserved andthat you can take your family to
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to be a part of. Yeah.
And. Feel small.
Feel small for a second. Feel small because it is really,
really breathtaking to be out there and sit on a Cliff of a
Canyon that's been dugout by theColorado River for 2 or 3000
(01:07:40):
years and you can just look at it and just be like, wow, this
is awesome. It'll be there well after you're
gone. Well, after you're gone,
absolutely, I hope. And this one of the biggest, the
hopes of all these parks is thatit's inclusive to all people
that you can have this opportunity to see the beautiful
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things that occur in nature for all.
For if you're poor, if you're rich, and when you, when you cut
the funding that goes to national parks or state parks,
you're limiting the access of people being able to see these
beautiful things that takes themout of their comfort zone, that
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takes them out of the things that they're normally used to.
If you have grew up in the innercity, you're going out and
seeing amazing waterfalls, you're seeing rock formations,
you're seeing mountains that have occurred for the last
however many thousands of years.And we got to take advantage of
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it because if we don't take careof our environment, we all die.
There's, there's nothing besideswhat and where we live.
And so This is why it's so important that you really,
really take a firm look at the environment that you live in
and, and, and work to conserve it.
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more withyou, bud.
Well, you know, I, I feel like, you know, this is, this is
definitely my, I'm not, I'm not asking anybody else, but I, I, I
know for a fact that this is my #1 issue and, you know, surgery,
you put it best, man. Without our environment, there
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is nothing else. So yeah, listeners, we want to
thank you for enjoying another episode of At the Extremes.
Always we appreciate and. Love my God, buddy.
You know, honestly, man, like I had some folks reach out to me
on blue sky. Really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, some folks reach out to some blue sky and
we had some new connections and people are reaching out.
(01:09:52):
And, you know, I just want to say like our community is
growing in so many different ways.
And I thought it would originally like we're we're
we're pulling in different people who again, I think I
mentioned this a couple weeks ago.
Like, it doesn't matter how you got here.
We're just glad we're fucking all in the same.
We're all heading to the same river, right.
Like we're all coming from different streams.
We're all heading to the same river.
Let's all work together. You know, we're not we're we're
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we're not against you reaching out to us on Blue Sky.
I think streams pod because we want you to actually so.
Give us feedback. Yeah.
It's not what we're doing. If we're stupid and we don't
know what we're talking about, Come on, Come on.
The. Show OK well let's be honest,
I'm not stupid. You're not stupid, so.
Well, you're you're, you're the less stupid.
Of the two of us, it's not that I'm less stupid, I just, you
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know, show up with a little bit of research done.
Anyway, thank you for listening to.
I think streams do subscribe. It goes a long way.
You can reach out to some Blue Sky at the Extremes pod.
You can check those show notes. And until next time, folks.
Educate yourself bro.
This is at the extremes. Blue Safarians, welcome back to
At the Extremes, the podcast where we discussed the extremes
in our society and how we got here.
As always, we're host, I'm Greg,and today we're going to be
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discussing the week that was. But before we get into it,
Sergio, catch this. What is this, the Blue Pony
Club? That's a.
That's a. That's a proper Lucifer hat.
Oh yeah. Brought to you from the folks at
Totality of Chaos on Etsy. So yeah, big, big shout out to
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the Etsy shot. We've got matching hats now
we've got. Matching T-shirts, too.
We have matching T-shirts. We're full Blucifer now.
This is a Blucifer Forward podcast.
I was going to say, all hail Blucifer.
All hail Blucifer. All hail the mighty, mighty
Blucifer. God damn it, he's.
He's the almighty. He's going to take us to the
(01:08):
next level. Lucifer is so Sergio, let's now
that we've done an on air gift exchange and we've we've given
our Our Daily Bread to Lucifer. Yes, Why don't you eat me with
the silver lining there, bud? Silver lining.
So I got a chance to go up to the Northeast to hang out with a
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friend, one of my my, my, my best friends ever.
And he is a support of the podcast, but his feedback was
that we we need more Judy on it.He he was like, man, she's the
one that sounds really educated.You dopes being able to go up to
the northeast, hang out. Went on a really, really nice
(01:49):
hike, ate lots of great food, drink, lots of good beer.
The weather was really nice, Notnice.
I, I should say. It was raining a a bunch, but it
was it, it was doable. Growing up in, in the Northwest,
you just put a rain jacket and rain pants on and just kind of
do what you do. This is I'm blabbering a little
bit for a second, but do you know what an alewife is?
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No. So there was a, a bar restaurant
down in Baltimore City that was but so it's a, it's AI think
it's a trout, it's a fish, but it's a migratory fish that's out
in sea and it almost makes waveslike the salmon do.
OK, So it, it, it comes through it, it's coming.
Oh, I, I'm going to come. But they, they will go up the
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river systems and to spawn and stuff like that.
So it's really neat. So we got to see that.
For me this week I think silver lining women Arsenal, they won
the Champions League. Come on, you gonna come?
On Arsenal, come on. I had a mate of mine send me a
video. She took her daughter to the
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Emirates today and they did the Champions League celebration and
like the videos were incredible.I mean they had you know, all
the streamers everywhere and like, you know, fireworks
popping off. So like, the Arsenal do an
incredible job of supporting their female players as well as
they do their men play male players.
So. Oh yeah.
So with that out of the way, let's go and take a real quick
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beer break. When we come back, it's time to
talk douche canoe and get into this week's nonsense.
So we're back. Let's talk about the douche
canoe of the week. Let's do it.
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All right, so he's back. The man who started the show,
Cody Crone, bring the star Cody.Cody Crone, the inspiration
behind this fucking show. I won't lie, I took a really
significant break, a long break from Cody.
Really. Oh my God, dude.
I've really dialed like I was like keeping like tabs on him
(04:06):
like to see like he was saying, but he wasn't saying anything
that wasn't in the normal like mainstream of like conservative
politics and all that other stuff.
But he has done a lot of things recently and I was like, oh, OK,
well, let's, let's keep a, let'skeep a, a, a tab on him, see
what's going on. He boy, oh boy.
(04:29):
This is your boy too. I.
Love I love a Cody Crud because he's crazier than he's really
crazy. He's amazing.
He's really crazy. He likes to come.
I'm going to come. First of all, he went to Mexico
to do some vacation dentistry, which is, if you remember him,
he hates brown people. So to go to dentist, to go to
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Mexico to get his dentistry doneis incredible.
Why would he do that? Well, it's cheaper there.
And if anything, Cody is like, he is very economically savvy.
We'll say that he, he, he. He outsourced the labor.
Yeah, he. Did I hate this guy so much?
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What a racist piece of shit. We.
We. We got to deport them all.
You're not good enough unless you're doing my teeth or like
some kind of service for me. I really hate Cody.
Oh God, what a fucking Dick. But no, So like, he, he goes to
Mexico, right? And he does his, his, his
vacation dentistry stuff, proving yet again that his grift
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is still paying off. Like he's got enough money to
go. I mean, even if you're going to
New Mexico to, to do vacation dentistry, it's still like
$3000. Like to get like, it's not like
veneers or whatever. It's not cheap, right?
Like his grift is still paying off.
He, he also lost 40 lbs. I'm going to show you a real
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quick picture. He lost 40.
Pounds. So if I remember correctly, like
he was. Fluctuated.
He always fluctuated, but like Ithink like his like carrying
weight was like 185 lbs but likeso like alright, I'm going to
also post this picture in the link right, So it.
Should be the thumbnail. God almighty look at this
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though, like so like obviously he's pushing his stomach out
here. Day one, 290 lbs Day 41183.
So like, I don't know about the Ozempic of it all, but like this
dude lost a significant amount of weight.
Like fair play to him. Like he's in his.
For him. He's in his 50s.
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Like, like, look at the picture.Like he looks good.
Like he's got muscle again, likeyou can see, like he's not like
in bad shape. So yeah, so he you know, he, he,
he loses all this weight. But the one thing that actually
kind of like helped me a little bit was a clip that he posted
the. Very things that they're saying
about killing and genociding theboar.
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I have never seen a head of state so uncomfortable as that
man fidgeting while he's watching the very thing that he
denied took place. Now he puts everyone in a
position where they have to support him.
Not the right, not the left could oppose it because if you
oppose what you saw, there you are.
You oppose. You're basically you're for
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genocide. You have to agree with him.
It's the most brilliant political move I've seen that I
maybe I've ever seen. You have to go watch it.
It is. What?
So before we get to what you're going to bring up here, because
we both have the same thought here, I want you to note above
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his head, he's got a sign that says Volcom, which is like
German, Swedish, like some shit that he like picked up, but it's
it's in German, right Volcom. And then over his left shoulder
is in loaded AR50. Yes, yes it is.
It's a scope right there too. He has not changed.
I'm so glad in the time that we took like a break from him that
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he has not changed up until thispoint.
But getting back to your point, genocide.
I've been listening to a little bit about this and it just seems
like when he when the Donald was, I haven't heard him be
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referred as that. Since since they took it down
off of Reddit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that basically he was just printing off.
There's nothing research. It's Facebook like posts that
people had that he just printed out.
Well, you know, I think before we go any further, I want to
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bring people up to speed. If they haven't seen or heard
what's happening, I want to bring them.
Up to speed. Yeah, let's bring them up to
speed real quick. Excuse me, turn the lights down
so. Before, before we fully get into
this, President Ramaphosa out ofSouth Africa comes to the White
House to talk with Donald Trump.Ramaphosa is a black man, a
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black South African who came with the contingent of white
Afrikaners, Afrikaners being andand golfers and.
Ernie Ells and. White Afrikaner golfers, yes,
yeah. So folks who he thinks are going
to play into Donald Trump's likeworld a little bit because.
Donald Trump loves the golf. And he doesn't trust black
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folks. So he's like, let me bring as
many white folks as I can with me.
And they are S Africaners. They're the.
Blacks love me. They love me in South Africa,
they say. But Afrikaners come with
Ramaphosa and this is what ends up happening as a.
So hold on, but before just thisis going to be a quick history
(10:00):
lesson. So Afrikaners are descendants of
the Dutch who came and colonizedSouth Africa.
They are a minority of South Africa but they've been there
for 3-4 hundred years and they own a majority of the land, the
farming land and created apartheid which was basically
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like Jim Crow laws which. Didn't end until like 96.
Yes. And so they've been in power.
You've. Been a lot.
If you're listening to this podcast, most of you, based off
of our stats, all of you know what it means.
Yes, Ramaphosa, though, here is Trump confronting Ramaphosa on,
quote, genocide claims. Just put this on, it's right
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behind you. These are burial sites right
here, burial sites, over 1000 ofwhite farmers.
And those cars are lined up to pay love on a Sunday morning.
Each one of those white things you see is a cross and there's
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approximately 1000 of them. They're all white farmers, the
family of white farmers. And those cars aren't driving to
stop there to pay respects to their family member who was
killed. And it's a terrible sight.
I've never seen anything like it.
They told you where that is, Mr.Prince.
Where is that I'd? Like to know where that is?
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It's my one of my favorite partsof this entire showdown of.
People. Death, death, death, Death,
death, death. What you saw the speeches that
were being made, one, that is not government policy.
We have a multi party. I think we could stop there.
Like, I'm not trying to talk take away from President
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Ramaphosa from his his. Defending himself.
And against Trump there, but like boy, oh boy, like we're
talk like this is this is. Going down at Facebook.
It's not even Facebook. It's 4 Chan.
It's Gab. It is 8 Chan.
Elon Musk whispering in this here that this is what's
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happening. It is ultra right wing white
nationalist talking points that that Donald Trump is parroting
back to the president of South Africa.
Who's going? I don't know where this is at.
Yeah. What are you talking about?
Where? Where is this happening that
you're talking? About it's my country and I
don't know what you're talking about because you're the crazy
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uncle in the room who is talkingabout absolute nonsense.
I think the thing that's really striking to me is the fact that
you have Donald Trump that is spitting all this stuff that is
clearly not backed by any kind of fact and but is allowing it
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to, to just progress. And for him to be able to say
this on a big stage that this ishappening.
And you, you have Elon Musk, who's South African, who's
probably said that, you know? Oh no, he's definitely like he
is 100% behind. But the thing that's super crazy
(13:20):
is that right now that what the the Department of Homeland
Security is taking away Harvard's right to be able to
have foreign students that are either going to have to transfer
to other schools or or or whatever, or get deported or
lose their status. And then yet you let 26 white
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Afrikaner farmers come in that are having genocide.
Yeah, I think I said something in our blue sky about like
immigrants not welcome unless you're a white South African
African owner. Like that's literally where
we're at now. One of the things that really
frustrates me and. And maybe.
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It all frustrates you. I mean, everything frustrates me
at this point. Shit I fucking some asshole at
the grocery store earlier today could not check themselves.
Like don't show up to a self checkout line if you can't do
the job, you know what I mean? You can't just read the
instructions that are. On the screen, like what are you
doing? Like you beep, beep.
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It's not that. Anyway, let me get back to the
point. The point is this.
That person should die. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
Duh. But you know, President Rafosa
is there. He's ambushed with this shit,
right? Like this is the second time the
Trump administration has done this with or another world
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leader, right? Like they did with Solinsky, you
know. They're they're trying to use
weaker and I'm I'm using air quotes when I say that weaker
nations. Weaker nations in terms of like
they don't have like the, the, the financial prowess or the
military prowess that the United.
States and the United States canjust shit on them because you
see that he's not doing that to Putin.
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He is not doing that to any of the the the big boys.
No. And Putin just decided, I think
it was over the weekend to drop a record number of drone
strikes. So that's cool.
And Donald Trump, apparently he had something to say about that.
But like, too late. Like we all saw this coming.
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Well. Didn't he say that he was going
to solve the conflict? Day one, day one No before day
one before day one. That and Israel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're all still
there. We're a. 100 and something plus
days now with. Still there waiting, donating
money to Israel to kill childrenand keep food from getting into
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Gaza. We're doing great.
I'm going to come. Oh, I'm going to come.
Our original douche canoe was going to be Derek Chauvin and
the right wing and their push toget him pardoned.
So Derek Chauvin died five yearsago.
At this point, this five year anniversary of death, I'm sorry.
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George Floyd five years ago died.
Yes. So Derek, Derek Chauvin is the.
Police officer. Yeah, I'm sorry, I misspoke.
Yeah, that was going to be the original douche canoe, but Cody
showed up on my timeline. I just could not resist bringing
Cody back into the show. So we have the what?
What? It's our mandate from our
listeners to not do the same douche canoe every week.
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So. And Cody has never and
officially a douche canal. No, no, he was our first series,
but you know. Didn't get that title number.
One in your hearts #1 in your minds.
Heck yeah, beloved. Let's take a quick drinks break.
We come back. We'll look into the Trump
administration's focus on destroying the environment to
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make himself and those like him even richer.
Cool. Sergio, I want to start this
segment though with a question for you specifically.
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It's 2 park. You got any favorite state
parks? And if you do have a favorite
State Park, what's your favoritenational?
Park state parks don't don't interest me as.
Much you don't have a favorite Maryland State park.
No, not really because I I mean pataps was great.
Pataps was a good one. Pataps was a really really good
one, but I live really close to a a good.
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Baltimore gunpowder is good, too.
Gunpowder is really good. I don't like the trail.
So this is my big complaint whenI was out in the, the the
northeast is that the signage ishorrible.
And that's why I got lost because they have these signs
are just like, oh, trail and they don't say what trail you're
on or it's like follies double blue and whatever.
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It's fine. But so one of the things I love
about America is that our topography and our geography is
so incredible. We have the Rocky Mountains that
are 14,000 feet or 15,000 feet. We have the Cascade mountains,
we have desert, we have the lakes.
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We, we, we have the swamps down in, in Florida where you would
just have all of this amazing nature And one of the places
that for me that just kind of sticks out.
Like I love being out in the northwest with the, the, the
different mountain ranges and seeing the greenery, the pine
trees and all that is, is amazing.
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I love the southwest. I feel like the Southwest is, is
magical. I mean, you have old faithful,
you have all all these amazing parks in Montana.
Southwest to me is one of the most amazing areas where you can
just see the way the glaciers have carved out or the rivers
that have carved out. And you see the beautiful
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formations of the rocks that areonly going to be there for, you
know, another couple 100 years before they erode and fall over.
But the southwest for me is justit, it, it's pretty stunning.
But if you're not there during during the the heat of summer.
Yeah, it's breathtaking. It is incredible.
Do you have? A park then that you like to
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visit them, that you've visited,that you were like, Oh my God, I
can't wait to go. Back to this might sound super
basic, but I I don't, I would have a hard time thinking of
something more incredible than going to the Grand Canyon.
Going to the Grand Canyon and seeing, yeah, just Sedona that
that Northern Arizona is, is beautiful.
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There is something breathtaking about it.
It it, it's just really, really incredible to see that the
Colorado River has cut through. Did all that.
All that over thousands and thousands of years so.
Yeah, but if you're going to askme like, where does your heart
go for a National Park, boy oh boy, Crater Lake.
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Crater Lake is a good fucking one.
I like it. Like, it's either that or
Yosemite, like for me, like the,the grandeur, like the, the,
the, the, the amount of size, yeah, like you cannot compute.
It's huge. It's gigantic, they say.
It's girthy. Very girthy.
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It's so girthy, the girth, they say.
So yes, I I had jumped in that lake, my my good friend Henry
that I, I. Saw in New England we had done
it together. We jumped.
Oh, sure. Yeah.
Yeah. So.
Shout out Henry. Yeah, shout out, man.
Big, big listener of the pod. And the other thing that's
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really important too, One of thecool things about being in Maine
and and New England is that theyhave some of the best tap water
that you'll ever have. How's the water pressure though?
Fantastic. God damn it.
Yeah, having good water without water pressure.
But it just having been able to drink out of the tap is
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fantastic. No fluoride, say.
No fluoride. Susquehanna is a good one, but
Deep Creek that's probably my favorite.
Part. I've never been there.
Oh. My God, All right, we got a, we
got a whole tour we're doing. You know, I think I remember
being in college and just being obsessed with being out there.
And, you know, you end up in like these like little like the,
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the, the highest waterfall in, in, in the state is out at Deep
Creek. You know, it's one of those
places that has the most environmental diversity in the
country, in the country in the state.
So there's a Baldwin that's nearnearby.
There's a Marshall that's nearby.
Like at that elevation you wouldnot expect it.
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But all these incredible landscapes and I can't quite
explain why, but but. It's really important that, and
I know the demographic that we attract to this is into nature
and stuff like that, but it's super important to support your
local and federal and national parks because they're one of the
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natural treasures that we have. And we're going to deep dive
into some really sad stuff that you all will all need to I know
about. It wrong there.
But it is so it's life changing to be able to go see these
amazing things that have been created not by man.
Yeah, Like, I remember we were out in Rocky Mountain State Park
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and we saw a Caribou, and it wasmy first time seeing an animal
that large in the wild. And I was like, Oh my God, this
is a gigantic. Like, I mistake it for a moose,
and moose are even larger, right?
And I was like, Oh my God, this is incredible.
But like, it's like things like that where you're like, all
right, you know, I'm in this National Park with the State
Park, blah, blah, blah. And you realize just like, kind
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of like how small you are. Absolutely.
And like that, I think that's like the grounding thing for me.
Being out in nature is like. That these patterns have have
happened for thousands, hundredsof thousands, millions of years
with these migratory patterns that have happened with.
We're just in the way. Yeah, we're just in the way
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eons, eons and neons and eons worth of time have gone by where
these animals just do their thing.
And I say all this because the Trump administration last week
redefined language. We're burning it.
All in the Endangered Species Act that is going to do away
with much of those safe spaces that are being that they,
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they've are always been under threat and now they're going to
be under threat even more. If you take Trump at his word,
though, he's a guy who believes in fresh air, fresh water, clean
water. Like he's like, I'm a big clean
water guy. I love clean water, the cleanest
water you can get. He doesn't give a shit though.
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He doesn't. He only wants water for his golf
courses. Yeah, yeah.
And golf courses are one of the worst things environmentally in
the United States and probably in the world.
Well, if you think about it like.
The amount of water that you need to use to be able to get
the grass. Yeah.
And if you go like if we like extend that one step further,
like he's a real estate guy. He believes in waterfront
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property though. Waterfront property and.
When I hear these people talkingabout global warming, that's the
global warming you have to worryabout.
Not that the Ocean's going to rise in 400 years.
An eighth of an inch and you'll have more sea front property,
right? If that happens, I said, is that
good or bad? I said, isn't that a good thing?
If I have a little property on the ocean, I have a little bit
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more property. I have a little bit more ocean.
Shut the fuck up. Because The thing is.
It is. So obnoxious to hear that
because it's not about like an an eighth of an inch.
It's about these crazy hurricanes through the Gulf of
Mexico. Oh, I shouldn't say that.
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I don't want to get stopped by tea.
It's Memorial Day. You're kind of a Nazi, they say.
But Nazis? But to say that is, is insane.
You, you see what, what was it Hurricane Sandy or whatever that
came through the, the East Coastthat destroyed things.
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And you, you look to see the, astemperatures rise within these
warm areas, that's going to intensify things.
And so yes, maybe the the oceanswon't rise, but.
Woke sides, woke sides, woke sides, they say.
I'd like to talk to you about something called the Endangered
Species Act. Yes.
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From the Department of the Interior, the Endangered Species
Act, which we're going to call the ESA moving forward, so I'm
not going to say at all, was enacted in 1973 by Congress as a
response to the declining populations of many species of
animals and plants. The ACT was designed to protect
and recover species at risk of extinction and to promote the
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conservation of ecosystems and habitats necessary to their
survival. Each of these species is a part
of the web of life, right? It's the butterfly effect.
It's the circle of life. Some Lion King for you.
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With each unique cultural and biological community performing
services, this is back to the ESA that are essential for our
combined well-being. By conserving these things,
guided by best available science, we help protect healthy
air, water and land for everyone.
The ESA is important to protecting our most valuable
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resources, Our most valuable resource, rather the planet and
it good. The thing that we all need to
live on. Yep Yep.
If without it we're we're nothing but it's 1st 50 years,
the ESA has been credit with saving over 99.
Percent, 99%, that's. 99%. And.
You I just you don't get that kind of satisfaction from a
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medical surgery 99%. Dog and I'm I'm just thinking
like something like this agency is probably not getting funded
like the military. Not even close.
So what? Imagine.
Imagine. Imagine.
So if they got even 1/4 of what the military got.
I'm about to throw this microphone through the garage
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door that's like I'm about to lose it already.
I'm so angry search you we. We don't like people as much as
we like the planet, I swear. To God, could you imagine if we
stopped for one second donating,not donating, but giving our tax
dollars to a $50 billion aircraft carrier or, I don't
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know, spending millions upon millions of dollars scrubbing a
jet that was gifted by Qatar to the president?
And that's. Going to be a billion dollars to
do all that. To I want to die, I want to,
like, I, I want to throw myself off of a building sometimes when
I think about this stuff. Because when you're talking
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about 99% of species that were listed as endangered being
saved, it kills me to think thatwe're about to do anything
different. But we are.
The American Bald Eagle is the best example of species recovery
due to the ESA, with numbers having increased now to a point
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where they are officially no longer threat as a listed as a
threatened species, and in fact they're being listed as a
species of Least Concern. And I've seen in the last even
couple months of few bald eagles.
Fragilings all over the place. Yeah, they're all over the
place, and that's a great thing,for Raptors are incredibly
important, much like wolves to our environment, and they
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control animals that can get outof control if they're not
around. It's the white tailed beer.
White tailed deer in the east string portion of the United
States are fucking rampant because we don't have wolves to
kill them. We have.
Cars. It's a really good point.
Yeah, the cars are the only thing that really.
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And the hunters? And they don't and and you can't
do enough to keep whitetail deerdown and they and as a result,
they are now not whatever. I'm not.
Well, they, they eat, you know what?
For people that live in this area, they're the ones that are
eating your plants, they're eating your vegetables.
And that's why you need to put up things that are natural deer
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deterrents like. Coyote urine and fox urine to
scare them off. Or also plants like Patchouli,
like things that are like net, Alaska, lemon, lemon ball.
This is a Joe Rogan podcast now.Ayahuasca is our number one
thing. We've never done it. 1800
ayahuasca. That's ayahuasca.
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It should come as no surprise though that the GOP and the MAGA
contingent want to roll back these protections of the ESA
because they hate beauty. They hate.
They would rather you work in a mill, go to some cookie cutter
run the mill home that you live in, and wash your SARS away by
drinking unforidated water and watching the Animal Planet
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instead of being out in it. They want this to happen.
Because they want to exploit theland, they want to be able to
let the rich farmers and cattle ranches be able to graze on on
this land and not have this for conservation because they don't
don't value it is important. They want to exploit the land.
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Anytime a business wants to develop a building, wants to
drill, wants to log, anytime they want to do some major
economic activity, there's a host of environmental
regulations that that industry needs to abide by.
What President Trump is trying to do here with the Endangered
Species Act and with a lot of other environmental regulations
is cut that red tape. So when the Endangered Species
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Act was established in 1973, themain framework of that of that
act was to protect critical habitat for threatened and
endangered species. And So what it did was it
established the definition of harm, meaning you can no longer
harm an animal if it could lead to that.
Things that I just remember in one of Trump's campaign speeches
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was that we can't do windmill and energy because it's killing
all the birds. And so we're talking about
killing all the birds, but then yet we want to destroy all the
old growth forests that they live in.
So like, what the fuck? Yeah.
And so the the the person that we just heard from is Tracy
Wolf. She's the senior coordinating
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producer on climate reporting atCBS News.
And she was just kind of walkingus through what Sergio was
talking about there, which is like, hey.
You know what? Fuck CBS.
Because. Well, yeah, there's a lot.
Wrong there. There's a lot with CBS going on
right now because they are basically settling with Donald
Trump so that they can try to get a merger with Paramount and
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make billions of dollars. And so they're going to say they
they had one of their journalists that was getting
scrutinized because Trump was saying that he had edited or
they had edited Kamala's, KamalaHarris's, and they didn't stand
up for him. And they're just going to settle
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that even though they would havewon.
Well, yeah, they would have won because they also aired the
portion of the interview they said was altered.
They they aired that and was it is still available on YouTube.
You can go and watch the quote unedited version of that
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interview. And let me be very clear, her
answer incredibly fucking clunky.
She was not right. Let me come back.
Incredibly clunky answer from Kamala on that that piece of the
interview that they did not air in like the prime time spot, but
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is still available on YouTube. So you can find that.
It's not like they didn't make it available.
They just for time and expediency sake.
I imagine you have to make some choices editorially speaking.
I mean, I've done that 1000 times on this podcast.
Like there are just some things that are worth hearing and there
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are some things that aren't. I know it's like 90% of the
things I say get cut. That's a true statement because
it's about me. I can at least admit to it.
I know that I'm a crazy person. Yeah, but you, you articulate
yourself a lot better than I do.That's not that I'd do that, but
anyway, so Tracy Wolf again, that that's the, the, the woman
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that we just heard from. She later goes on to say that
the administration proposed a rule change that would
essentially prohibit only actions that directly hurt or
kill actual animals, not the habitats, habitats that they
rely on. So like you, if you're not going
out and killing a wolf and you're just destroying the, the,
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the woods that they live in, theforce they live in, it's not
actual harm. So like you don't have to worry
about it, right? They want to essentially, they
want to make sure that any, any regulation, they want to
deregulate all of it, right? If finalize the change would
make it easier to log mine buildon lands that are endangered
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species need to thrive. The butterfly effect of it all.
It tells me that we're in for a world of pain if the
administration gets it's it's way and that's because
developing land is directly tiedto climate change.
And I don't know that you know in in in both the the the county
and the city. You know that we live around
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right now like there's so much growth and it like if you you
drive up 95, you know there there Lexus lanes is what I call
them right like HIV lanes are getting built out right now and
it is just you know by. Like coming up by you the the
amount of construction that's going on and the development
that's happened is price striking from 2025 years ago.
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So a newspaper from renowned climatologist James Hansen says
that unless carbon emissions aresharply cut, the point of no
return quote UN quote the shutdown of the Atlantic
meridotal overturning circulation.
That's a lot to swallow is. That's what she said.
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Hello, hello is likely in a 20 to 30 years, but it's a tipping
point, right? So we're talking about 20 to 30
years from now. But climatologists are are are
rediscovering new things every single day, every single year,
right? But this is what I'm saying with
that. Like it's 20 to 30 years and
it's a tipping point, but what'sgoing to happen is that we're
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not going to do this and we're going to fuck up the environment
and then we're going to wipe outhumanity and nature will come
back. Nature always comes back at some
point. Yeah, yeah.
Humans won't. No.
I mean, the world's been destroyed four or five times.
Yeah, and it's in existence, so we don't.
Have dinosaurs anymore? Yeah, but but nature's came back
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in other species. Because creation creationists
say that they existed with humans so.
Thank God for Jebus. Drebus, thank God for Lucifer.
Hail Lucifer hailed So, so this,this gentleman who wrote this
paper, right? It's a worrisome paper, right?
We're talking about the I don't want to talk with the end of the
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world, but it it's not, it's notgood.
It brings special focus to the quote most threatening tipping
point, the point of no return, which would be passed if it
becomes impossible to avoid catastrophic loss of West
Antarctic ice sheet and sea level rise of several meters.
The Antarctic ice loss would be triggered by a shutdown of that
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AMOC that we talked about earlier, the Atlantic meridial
returning circulation, the oceans conveyor belt, right?
So we're talking about, you know, things that we can't see,
right? Like it's it takes cold water
and warm water and it carries itNorth and South and it pulls it
apart for us because, you know, that's how nature works.
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It takes thousands of years to do this process.
The circulation is driven by sinking heavy Arctic water,
dense from cold water and salt. Melting ice injects fresh water,
which is lighter than warm water.
And to it flows, you know, into the circulation of this, this
process, which if we're keeping track at home, is not a good
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thing. It's a really bad thing.
Fish, whales, sharks, raise, to mention just a few species, are
already beginning to go further and further South and further
further north in order to hit their migration periods, to eat,
to breed, to do the things that these animals have been doing
for a fucking millennia. Like we're not doing enough.
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We're not doing enough. Or you can even go into the fact
that the oceans are warming and so the coral reef is dying.
We're bleaching. Coral reefs, everywhere we go,
everywhere that human beings are, we're not doing enough to
protect the environment, right? So if every year you and your
family had to go current stand to eat, to fuck, to like, sleep
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for like a long period of time, yeah, you could do it.
But fuck me, is that not a gigantic fucking inconvenience
to get to Kyrgyzstan to fucking drink and eat and like, be
merry? Yeah.
And to be able to continue the process so that your species
can. Continue on if you're a if you
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like, let's bring even closer tohome, right?
Like we all have heard about thesalmon who swim upstream and
blah blah blah. And the alewife that we just
talked about too and they're highly impacted right now by by
global warming. Right.
So you have to go further upstream every year and every
year and every year and like thewater gets thinner and thinner
like in terms of like the depth.Or it gets more intense when it
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comes to huge rainstorms that happened that where they can't
get up because they're too exhausted.
Yeah. Yeah, no, it's, it's it's a huge
fucking problem we're talking about.
But I, I, I want to take a real quick break and we come back.
I don't. I want to continue to get
depressed. Oh no, we're going to I promise
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you, I we're back.
So, Sergio, I'm going to share this picture link in the show
notes, but I just wanted to like.
What are all those red blushes that you have on?
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There, Yeah. I was going to say like we're
going to look at a map underneath where the threat of
the reversal in the position that the Trump administration is
trying to make and what that's going to affect the.
Map right now currently of the United States.
Yeah. And so it's a map of like the
dark red spots are where it's going to most affect the
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environment. And if you notice on this red,
dark, dark red map, it's a lot of like natural national parks,
a lot of like, like if you especially like you came out of
New England this past week a. Lot of it's in Maine.
And it is dark red, basically the entire state.
In Idaho and Montana. California, California.
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The Everglades specifically, andalso if you look up here in the
Alaska region, where a lot of the natural oil, yeah, a lot of
natural gas and oil is being is AT.
And this is all background for anew report that spells serious
trouble for kids your child's age.
Serbia, The Guardian published apiece that explains that sea
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level rise will cause catastrophic inland migration,
which is a scary sentence all initself, not only for the
environmental catastrophe that'sabout to happen, but the
immigration crisis that is continuing to happen and will
continue to happen as our environmental crisis continues
to ramp up day after day, week after week, year after year.
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I've been listening to a book periodically called The Camp of
Saints. The subtitle of that book is The
Chilling Novel About the End of the White World.
The book is a pretty notorious It's pretty notorious on the far
right anti immigration contingent.
And here's a quick summary of the major plot points for you.
Real quick, but they it's brokendown.
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We don't like brown people. Essentially, it's broken down by
4 major points, right? The Arrival The story this is
this is from. It's like the Turner Diaries or
whatever. Yeah, so I got like the like the
the quick like what the Cliff Notes version.
Did you ever do Cliff Notes during college or high school,
by the way? I feel like that's out of like,
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like out of sync now. But like, I feel like we're like
a cultural milestone at this point, like we did Cliff Notes.
I mean, I, I would never be ableto get through what Julius
Caesar and all those things thatI.
Yeah, yeah, 12 Angry Men was something I I used Cliff Notes
for. I didn't.
Watch that movie. I read the book, so here's a
quick summary of the book thoughthe arrival.
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The summary of the story centre is on a massive flotilla of
dilapidated ships carrying hundreds of thousands of
starving, destitute people from India heading towards France.
The story mainly focuses on something called the Western
importance. Instead of defending their
borders, Western nations, particularly in France, are
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paralyzed by guilt, political correctness and loss of cultural
self-confidence. They say this thing, They say
this thing, the. Too much.
So after there's a character in the book who watches this
flotilla that's hanging off the coast of France, and during the
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initial period of this flotilla being out to sea, like he starts
having these different conversations, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah. And then what they call the
quote invasion starts. The immigrants, portrayed in
unflattering and dehumanizing terms are allowed to land and
quickly overrun the French society, leading to chaos,
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chaos, violence and a collapse of social order.
God damn it. The next phase of this is called
the Collapse of the West. The novel shows the DD
integration of westerns institutions, values and culture
and as the overwhelming influx of immigrants leads to the end
of old order. And the last bit of this is the
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aftermath. The book concludes with the near
total destruction of Western civilization, replaced by a new
World order where traditional Western values and culturals are
extinct. The book is incredibly
influential for those who are part of the Dark Enlightenment
from former campaign strategistsin 2016 for the Trump
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administration, the by the name of Steve Bannon or Peter Thiel
or JD Vance, another illegally adherent.
Like I said, JD Vance, but another one of those being Marie
Le Pen out of France who read a LED a right wing fascist
political movement to. Almost one to be president of
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France, right? Yep.
Yep, and now she's in prison forembezzlement, so there's that.
Well, and her father was the thekind of the architect of all
that, right? He was, and he was also somehow
even more racist than Marie. From That's a hard That's a hard
pillow to swallow. That's a low bar.
That's a high bar to cross, really.
From thenewrepublic.com. The author Raspiel, he's a
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French author, by the way. The enemy is the entire non
white world. It tramples monks and white
savers alike in its invasion of France.
His refugees are nameless. They're they're caricatures with
no inner lives. Like he goes through this story
and I've been listening to this through what is it the Internet
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archive.org. And they have like this awesome
PDF reader thing that you can listen to this book if you want
it to. It's a terrible book, but if you
want to learn more about in. Regards of it just not being
well written. No, no, it's a really well
written book. But like if you want to learn
about like white racist theory, stuff like this is a fantastic
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starting point. Like if you want to learn about
like the extremes of like. Mindset of of where people are
coming from. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. If you want to understand like
where white replacement theory starts, this is in my opinion a
really good book to start with. You should never start with this
book. Fuck this book.
No you for research. Purposes.
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If you are somebody who's like I'm looking for a new book to
read on my like my book like club do not start with the camp
of age. It's a terrible book to be.
But he ascribes to most of them a supernatural combination of
obstinance and depravity. One of the first like stanzas of
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the book that he talks about the, the decaying smell of human
beings and human flesh on a, on a boat.
And I'm, I'm, I'm kind of going off script here for a SEC
because it was one of those like, I love it when you
freestyle it. It was a really moving passage,
right? Like if you're not, like if you
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don't know, like where this bookstarts, you go, Oh my God.
Like the Indian folks were out in the sea are like they're
causing all this chaos, blah, blah, blah.
But like, if you know what this guy's like intent is, it's
really just about like white replacement JD Vance kind of
shit, right? Like the Charlottesville March
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and stuff like. That yeah, you will not replace
us, right? He describes.
But it's not. But it's not you.
It's another word. Yeah, yeah.
Or you know, you know, in this case, you know French people are
being taken over by by the Indian subcontinent, right?
He ascribes to them an almost supernatural combination of
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obstinance and depravity. Like I mentioned, they are
savages led by literal A literalshit eater.
In the book he describes somebody who literally eat shit
who is the leader right And theyfoist poison dead upon the
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shores. Less So what they do is they
like in the book, like they eventually find themselves, you
know, with boats full of dead people and they come ashore and
like it spreads disease, right? And and that's before they even
get to France. So like, it's this like black
plague is coming thing, right? It's a really, really scary,
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scary book. Not not to think that it's so
outlandish, but this is it just seems like it's a recipe that
far right and people use to scaremonger people into
believing that immigrants are the cause of all the problems in
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the world world's ills. Yeah.
And for me, it's I I really struggle with it.
Like, I mean, I struggle with itin all aspects of life, but to
be able to even view another human being as a less than or an
invasion somebody that's it's aninvasive species that's coming
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into your country. And, you know, I was listening
to podcasts about it. That was just we are in kind of
the situation right now where wehave a lot of world leaders that
are talking about this invasion that is.
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Quote UN quote invasion. Quote, UN quote invasion, Yeah,
yeah, yeah. That is replacing white people,
that white people feel like theyhave almost an inherited value
to to rule. Yeah, yeah.
No, I, I, you know, we, you know, I was thinking about this
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while I was writing this up and kind of like doing some
research. As I did nothing.
No, not for that. But you know, that doesn't mean
that you didn't do anything. I'm busting your balls.
You can definitely do that because I.
Didn't I'm busting your balls. But like, you know, the idea
that like, all right, we have a situation where we have in our
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country right now, we have people who are being deported or
Harvard University is being toldthat like you cannot accept
certain people and blah, blah, blah.
Like this, This book was writtenhere in the 70s where this guy,
this Frenchman who was saying like, yeah, no, you, you, you
shouldn't come here and we're going to keep you away from it.
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And if you do come here, it's literally the destruction of the
West and leave it to the French.I'm kidding, but like.
The Afrikaners. Man, I, I, it's, yeah.
No, I don't know. I don't know.
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Back to the story, though. No, no, back to the just back to
the story. As our environmental catastrophe
continues to quicken and and unto like quicken to an
unrecoverable rate, the environmental migrants are going
to become more and more common. And that's not outside of our
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own country. There are going to be people, we
looked at this map earlier who are going to be affected by
this. Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi,
Alabama, like the entire Gulf isgoing to be affected by this.
Many parts of the West West Coast are going to be affected
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by this. Many parts of the East Coast
will be affected by this. And.
And you look at internationally,like Pakistan had one of the
most insane amount of floods that happened that displaced
hundreds of thousands, millions of people that were floods had
never had happened before and places were wiped out.
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How many once in a generation floods do you need to see in the
last 10 years before you start thinking maybe this isn't a once
in a generation thing? Yeah.
We're. Looking at each other just wide
eyed and we are shaking our heads.
We've already seen how migrants are dealt with in this country,
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right? Deplorably.
We've already seen it as those folks are legal or otherwise
right? They're legal, or they're
seeking asylum, or they've done everything correct for the last
however X amount of. Years, however long they're told
to deal with some arbitrary system.
Yes, where they go in to check in and do that and then they get
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sent to on a plane to Libya. Yeah, yeah, you're, you're not
wrong there. You know, I was thinking about
it earlier today and just like the whole the whole situation
being what it is around, you know, legal or quote, quote, UN
quote illegal people like I don't know how you make.
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Fuck, are you illegal? Like, as a human being, right?
How? Like Neil deGrasse Tyson, no
matter what you think of him, like he was talking about
something. I like him a lot.
You talk about something like the idea like, you know, you go
up into space and there are new borders.
There are literally none. And to think that like we've
created these arbitrary systems,right?
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But that's a different conversation for a different
day. You know, when you think about
like the environmental crisis that is coming, like we are,
we're we're not beyond the tipping point where we're so
close. And I don't see us slowing down
anytime soon. Freshwater and farmable land
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will become less and less abundant.
The Magra crowd worldwide, right?
Like the Viktor Orban's of the world, right, The hyper
totalitarian Putin's of the world and Xi Jinping.
And like all these folks who arehyper totalitarian, our own
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country at this point is hyper totalitarian at this point.
We'll continue to amp up racism and limit environmental migrants
from becoming citizens to countries that aren't so
dramatically impacted. And I I don't understand like.
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You know you understand it, but you don't understand it in the
sense that other people are like, what the fuck are you
doing? Yeah, I think I, I think I
understand it from a. A racist point of view.
And you're like, OK, I can understand that.
You don't want, you know. No, no, not even that.
I think. I think more, more, more, more,
in my opinion is like, all right, Like this is, this is the
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new war. It will come to our doorstep
eventually. You have no choice.
Environmental migrants are goingto become a thing.
It's a terrible, terrible place to be.
And you have people like Elon Musk who say like, oh, well, we
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can terraform Mars. Well, if you can do that, then
terraform the planet as it quickens, as it comes closer and
closer and faster and faster andfaster.
I actually want to point us backto what we started with, which
is Cody. Cody started.
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We win. We hate Cody.
Cody's a fucking Dick. Such a Dick.
He's such a Dick. One of the things that Cody, I
think the more and more I look at Cody for my further removed
space and again, I I, you know, I.
As you separate your emotional attachment to him from the
beginning, from when you first knew him to where he's at now.
(57:13):
I think I'm more and more I lookat him, I feel like he's an
environmental fascist. We talked about this earlier on
in the like second or third episode where we talked about
environmental fascism. We talked about the the Pine
Tree riots, the that song, right?
(57:34):
If you remember that they are. This is where we're at now.
Like this is where we could end up rather at least right?
Like the idea that like there's only but so much land.
So fuck you, you deserve to die because you're not the right
kind of American. You're not the right kind of
Christian. You're not the right kind of
whatever, whatever out group they want to set as a part of
(57:59):
their fascistic kind of ideal system they've got in their own
mind. And all of a sudden you can see
where this ends up, right? Everyone starts wearing, you
know, some kind of indicator as to like, Oh yeah, well, we've
got like, so many freshwater things and you only get so much.
The right is already doing this.It's a different frame right
(58:22):
now. It's jobs.
There aren't enough jobs to go around for everyone, including
those who, you know, don't go about participating, some
arbitrary system about citizenship or whatever
bullshit, right? But eventually it becomes about
living space, it becomes about freshwater, it becomes about
food. It's all playing out in front of
us. The things I struggle with with
(58:43):
that is that you have definitely, you have these
enterprises that occur within the United States when it comes
to being able to exploit the land for energy resources.
But then you have people that have lived in coal country or
West Virginia. I think a lot of about West
Virginia and what they have to do.
(59:05):
Sure. And back in the day you could
make a lot of money, but now it's being a lot more
manufactured and you're getting replaced by AI or machines and
now you have to deal with that. So how are you going to be able
to sell that to people that I mean, the whole war on poverty
was by Lyndon B Johnson to, to be able to combat poverty in
(59:31):
America. And one of the main focus points
was Appalachia. Appalachia.
Appalachia. So for me, it's it's just
really, really hard because you have these systems set in place
(59:52):
and you don't have people. They don't really care.
They don't care. Nobody cares.
I, you know, I want to disagree with you and I want to get my
final thoughts before I, before I turn it over to you, because I
think that there are people out there who care, myself included,
right? I think that the problem is that
(01:00:12):
our capitalist system doesn't care.
And I think that that's, I thinkthat that is in turn the actual
issue, right? Like I don't think that the
individual human being doesn't care because I think if you
walked up to anybody, he went, hey, Sergio, do you care about
fresh water, fresh food? Do you care about things that
are going to extend your kids lives?
(01:00:36):
Do you think that the the earth matters?
I don't. I don't think that anybody who
who's on the far right of thingswill go no, I don't think that
that matters. I don't think that anybody who
says, I don't think anyone says that go on.
But I'm a retortant with that isthat you will say, Oh yeah, this
doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
It's it's a super woke and. But I think if you start with
like, OK, like I, I, I, I often unfortunately think about this
(01:01:00):
like when I'm in the shower especially.
But like if I was going to have a conversation with a friend of
mine or somebody who's in my family who doesn't necessarily
see eye to eye with me, but we can see eye to eye on the idea
that like. That you can beat them.
For sure, because they're idiotsand they're, you know, softies.
But like the idea that like, allright, you believe that you
(01:01:23):
should have clean food, right? And they'd say, yes, most people
they're who do you know that goes, you know what forever
plastics in my food. No one just says that.
No one says that. No one's ever said that.
It is about how you vote and whoyou support to make sure those
things happen. Meanwhile, now that like we have
(01:01:45):
50 plus percent of the country who thinks that RFK is like
doing an OK job? Like we're in a position now
where it's not about like what you and I think about on an
individual level or like what we're talking about an
individual level with people whomay or may not agree with us.
It's about somebody who you've never met before who goes,
(01:02:06):
you're a crazy lunatic lefty forthinking that these things
matter if you have kids. These are my final thoughts.
I want to, I want to give my final thoughts, thoughts 1st and
I'm going to pass it over to you, Sergio.
And I have not planned out any of my final thoughts, so it's
just going to be sounding like. Well, hopefully, hopefully
during my final thoughts, you you, you, you find you can.
(01:02:27):
Organize myself. You find a thread if you have
kids, if you have nieces, nephews, neighbors whose kids
you don't hate. By the way, my neighbors kids I
don't really hate that much. I used to, but not anymore.
The old adage that an old man plants a tree not for himself,
but for those who come after himfor shade.
(01:02:48):
That's the whole point. We're here not for ourselves,
but for the people who come after us.
It's not solely about us. It's not, you know, if there are
no more free spaces for us to goto, if there are no more
national parks to us for us to go to because they're drilling
the shit out of them. If we can't go to the Everglades
to see these ancient animals in crocodiles and alligators who
(01:03:12):
are just floating through the Everglades living their lives.
Or the things that come out of the undergrowth of an old growth
forest in the Pacific Northwest,like these tiny little squirrels
that appear out of nowhere when you've left, who are just living
their lives because that's how they're supposed to live.
My God, it's not worth living ifwe don't have those spaces.
(01:03:37):
What I mean is this, and I don'twant to judge, dread this
situation. I'm not trying to Sylvester
Stallone it. Judge away.
But some futuristic Jetsons without like the robot like made
situation where there are plumesof smoke billowing all over the
place. Meet the Jetsons.
(01:03:57):
That's that's Flintstones. Fuck.
But that's not that's not a world I want to live in.
It's not I, I'm not sitting heretelling you or you know, anyone
listening to this podcast that like it's worth you like giving
up your car or, you know, not going to, you know, a, a, a, a
major supermarket to go buy yourfood.
(01:04:20):
Like that's not what I'm here tosay.
We all live in this world and ifyou can make smart decisions
about shopping locally or going to like your local butcher or
whatever, like do those things, right?
That's not what I'm here to say.I just don't want groundwater to
be pop polluted by sludge like that Elon Musk is doing in
fucking Las Vegas or in fucking some small town in Texas now,
(01:04:44):
right? I don't want rivers and
mountains that I once hiked in Western Maryland when I was in
college to be owned by wealthy business owners who are strip
mining the shit out of. I want to take my nephew to
those places. I guess what I mean to say is
that if you're asking yourself what can I do, how can I help?
How can I move the needle forward?
(01:05:07):
Go to Rebellion, dot Global, getinvolved with local branch that
can help you to get smart and act locally, regionally, and
nationwide. But spend money at places that
prioritize your environmental activism and promote
environmental justice. This isn't just about making
(01:05:28):
sure you know that we're all acting locally and thinking
globally. Like we need to make sure that
the folks who are here in your community are benefiting from
environmental action. Like I said, it's important more
than now than ever that we take care of our planet.
It's our only fucking home. This has got to be our priority.
(01:05:51):
Organize, protest, and talk to your friends and your family who
think that the climate crisis isjust some hoax or whatever.
Like some bullshit they heard onright wing media from Alex Jones
or maybe fucking Cody Cronoff ofWrangler Star.
We've got to be in this together.
Nature has shown us through actslike the Endangered Species Act
(01:06:11):
that if we give it time, it willrecover.
We only have one home and without our mother we are
literally nothing. Sergio to you for your final.
Thoughts. I hate you with all my soul like
you. You said all these beautiful
words and sentences and you can be like.
Blah, blah blah blah blah blah. I don't know if they were
(01:06:35):
beautiful, but I, I it's my anger coming out in in a, in
more organized way than I normally would.
So. Well, and you know, I, I agree
with you. I think one of the things that
we all have to recognize whetheryou vote Democrat, Republican,
is that you have these really, really sacred spaces that are
(01:06:55):
amazing. If you go to the Grand Canyon,
you go to any of the 14,000 footmountains in Colorado, go to
Crater Lake. These are amazing feats of
nature that can be conserved andthat you can take your family to
(01:07:19):
to be a part of. Yeah.
And. Feel small.
Feel small for a second. Feel small because it is really,
really breathtaking to be out there and sit on a Cliff of a
Canyon that's been dugout by theColorado River for 2 or 3000
(01:07:40):
years and you can just look at it and just be like, wow, this
is awesome. It'll be there well after you're
gone. Well, after you're gone,
absolutely, I hope. And this one of the biggest, the
hopes of all these parks is thatit's inclusive to all people
that you can have this opportunity to see the beautiful
(01:08:02):
things that occur in nature for all.
For if you're poor, if you're rich, and when you, when you cut
the funding that goes to national parks or state parks,
you're limiting the access of people being able to see these
beautiful things that takes themout of their comfort zone, that
(01:08:25):
takes them out of the things that they're normally used to.
If you have grew up in the innercity, you're going out and
seeing amazing waterfalls, you're seeing rock formations,
you're seeing mountains that have occurred for the last
however many thousands of years.And we got to take advantage of
(01:08:46):
it because if we don't take careof our environment, we all die.
There's, there's nothing besideswhat and where we live.
And so This is why it's so important that you really,
really take a firm look at the environment that you live in
and, and, and work to conserve it.
(01:09:08):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more withyou, bud.
Well, you know, I, I feel like, you know, this is, this is
definitely my, I'm not, I'm not asking anybody else, but I, I, I
know for a fact that this is my #1 issue and, you know, surgery,
you put it best, man. Without our environment, there
(01:09:31):
is nothing else. So yeah, listeners, we want to
thank you for enjoying another episode of At the Extremes.
Always we appreciate and. Love my God, buddy.
You know, honestly, man, like I had some folks reach out to me
on blue sky. Really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, some folks reach out to some blue sky and
we had some new connections and people are reaching out.
(01:09:52):
And, you know, I just want to say like our community is
growing in so many different ways.
And I thought it would originally like we're we're
we're pulling in different people who again, I think I
mentioned this a couple weeks ago.
Like, it doesn't matter how you got here.
We're just glad we're fucking all in the same.
We're all heading to the same river, right.
Like we're all coming from different streams.
We're all heading to the same river.
Let's all work together. You know, we're not we're we're
(01:10:16):
we're not against you reaching out to us on Blue Sky.
I think streams pod because we want you to actually so.
Give us feedback. Yeah.
It's not what we're doing. If we're stupid and we don't
know what we're talking about, Come on, Come on.
The. Show OK well let's be honest,
I'm not stupid. You're not stupid, so.
Well, you're you're, you're the less stupid.
Of the two of us, it's not that I'm less stupid, I just, you
(01:10:38):
know, show up with a little bit of research done.
Anyway, thank you for listening to.
I think streams do subscribe. It goes a long way.
You can reach out to some Blue Sky at the Extremes pod.
You can check those show notes. And until next time, folks.
Educate yourself bro.
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