June 30, 2025 • 58 mins
This week the guys chat about the week that was.
Join us, won't you?
links:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xg1Dh2xhXg
- https://apnews.com/general-news-cf28301d7af44fa38bb29dddd4d5e1c2
- https://apnews.com/article/lawsuits-kentucky-us-supreme-court-kim-davis-marriage-9d57d84ffa0b9a7fc9bbc42c6f7a1b24
- https://apnews.com/article/kentucky-kim-davis-marriage-license-samesex-53c37a606aa8dab261edb198db0de72c
- https://youtube.com/shorts/UbCOnL9sVBs?si=g2yMbJUph42hXpxF
- https://youtube.com/shorts/wbDRoEvCY8Y?si=SOSGNVJCXPv1_T8P
https://x.com/yashar/status/1934730231849603085
- https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/1934783004682997782
- https://youtube.com/shorts/3pskErBhjDM?si=0g6X-a6vKbu3OS-B
- https://youtu.be/XDOUl_YcG9A?si=6FP7x7fCm-naAD2t
- https://www.mediamatters.org/media/4030949
- https://www.mediamatters.org/media/4030766
https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/maga-civil-war-a-guide-to-trumps-fracturing-coalition-over-iran-and-israel/
- https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-secretly-used-bannon-in-a-ploy-as-maga-civil-war-raged/
ear worm:
- https://open.spotify.com/track/4BpPvEi38kvfLKA1qBBX5J?si=K8DbunqoTXWqdO7bQJnLqQ
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(00:07):
This is At the Extremes, beloved.
Welcome back to At the Extremes,the podcast where we discuss the
extremes in our society and how we got here.
As always, we're your host. I'm Greg.
And I'm Sergey. Oh sheesh, keep me hot I.
Feel a little excited right now?You are.
(00:27):
You're all fucking on pins and needles and stuff.
Why? I mean, you've been definitely
setting up the mood lighting andI am just, I'm ready to pod.
Well, this week we're going to be discussing our drunken master
approach to entering into a war in Iran.
So yeah, it's going to be great.Are you going to drop big loads?
(00:49):
So many loads, so many loads. Not enough time for daddy, they
say. Daddy's home, Ding Dong, Daddy's
home. But before we get into it,
though, Sergio, why don't you hit me?
Now that we've done at least oneTrump impression, let's go ahead
and get into the Silver Linings for the week.
What do you got, man? So silver lining is that there
was a brand new car purchase and, and I don't know if you saw
(01:11):
it. Oh.
I did. And that baby only had 7 miles
on it. Freshy fresh.
So fresh, but it was also super frustrating because I hate car
dealerships. How how did the how did the so I
text messaged you when you were telling me, Oh yeah, we're at
the dealership, but you never responded.
Like how did the the bartering go?
(01:32):
Did you guys? It it was so frustrating to the
sense the actual salesperson that we were with the majority
of the time was awesome. The finance guy was a complete
piece of shit and he should be at the douche canoe of the week
because he fucking sucks. And you know what, Seth?
I'm coming after you. Oh.
Drop the 1st. Name Yeah, fuck you Seth, but
(01:54):
yeah, we're we were not a big fan of Seth but.
Fuck you Seth, you piece of shit.
Exactly. But in in the end we got a car,
the other car was fixed. So now we're back to being A2
car household, which is exciting.
So it's got to feel good at least it.
You know what it is just gives you a little bit more freedom to
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be able to do what you want to do when you want to do it.
And I appreciate that. But it also brings me back to
our point from last week that I'm very lucky to even be able
to E bike around, you know? Yeah.
But now you don't have to worry about it if you don't want to,
you know, especially the heat being the way it is, the heat
Dome sitting on the over the East Coast right now.
(02:39):
I mean, you definitely don't want to be biking in this
regardless, Yeah, it's fucking miserable outside.
It's not my favorite and you know, I know you're not a fan
and I'm not a fan of. Not a fan, they say.
Not a fan. Not a fan, they say, of summer.
And it is. Summer came in hot and hard.
(02:59):
Yeah, and it's only June, so buckle up, folks.
It's going to get it. Was like the first, it was the
first day of summer where it was97° and I I think next week will
be a little bit better, but it it, yeah, it's.
Going to be great. It was doing it's damn thing.
I can't wait. I I for 1:00 AM so excited for a
nuclear winter mixed with the impending doom of global
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warming. Can't wait.
That is not my silver lining. My silver lining?
I was just going to say, how about you?
So my silver lining is retreating back to the 1990s
again. I have been blasting Counting
Crows, Dave Matthews Band, Hootie and the Blowfish.
Just. What's your what's your favorite
Counting Crows on? We're going to go see them soon.
(03:44):
Black and Blue I think Blue is agreat song.
The new Counting Crows album is really good.
I've not listened to it at all. I'm not prepped.
It is so good. It is so very good.
Really. I am, you know, sleep, sleep
sleeper pick for the week, Counting Crows.
I love him. I love him.
But in a world where everything feels so dangerous right now, it
really has provided a lot of comfort.
(04:05):
It's kind of like an old blanket, you know, going back
into that period of time, early 2000s, late 90s of going all
right, you know, the world was simpler back then.
You know, even though like, oh, a heartbreak or a, or a love or,
you know, a sporting event or, you know, going to see, I mean,
I saw Counting Crows over like 20 years ago.
(04:26):
Really. It was my first concert and it
really takes me back every single time so.
Did you? Did you know that Adam Dirt
where's like, wigs all the time,right?
He's so he, have you seen his, like most recent look?
And he's like, he's completely his like facial hair is gone.
Hair is like buzz cut. Like he's like super tight now.
Really. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what?
(04:48):
Good for him. Yeah, yeah, because I mean he
had like the the braids for a bit and.
He had the locks. Oh yeah, that's right.
He had locks. Yeah.
And then he had like a really bad mustache combo.
I. I'm going to say, you know, Adam
Duritz for is not the most aesthetically pleasing looking
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guy. He he pulled Jennifer Aniston.
Jennifer Aniston's not my type. No.
But. He.
He he he out kicked his coverageon that one.
Oh my God, are you kidding me? He has played way over his
station when it comes to his female companionship.
Absolutely. Yep, Yep, Yep.
And I mean, I I know Leo, Leo DiCaprio is kind of disgusting
(05:31):
with the age range that he does,but Leo is also a better looking
guy. He's doing well for himself,
yeah, but. Adam, you know Adam gives hopes
to to. To people like us, yeah.
Yeah. The the the.
Except we can't say the. Ugly ducklings of the world, as
it were. You know I'm an ugly duckling
and I'm OK with that. But you've got a great voice.
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I don't know about that. I like it.
I. Don't know.
I don't know guys. Well, now that we've gotten
through the the Silver Linings, let's take a real quick break.
When we come back, we're going to talk about the douche canoe.
Let's go. We are Sergio.
(06:26):
It's douche canoe time. What do you?
Man, I always get super excited with this.
And you know, I was feeling a little bit motivated when I was
writing. I, I wrote like two or three
douche canoes for the week. And it's really funny because
you have it on the screen and I just look at what I write and I
just like, Oh my God, that's grammatically so incorrect and
(06:47):
stupid. But we're, we're, we're going to
rock'n'roll today with our, our douche canoe.
And but before we get into the person that I'm nominating for
today, we're going to talk aboutlast week's douche canoe and big
balls. Oh OK, give it you have an
update. I do.
You have a ball. Update a.
Big A big ball update. Let's have it then.
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He resigned from the US government.
I saw that. I saw that I wasn't going to
bring it up. I I think I actually posted
something on our blue sky. But yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gone.
He's he's gone. He's gone.
I mean that is probably quicker than Jeff Sessions being the
Attorney General and and the unfortunately he will probably
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make a lot more money and continue to be a huge douche,
but at least he's not a federal government employee.
Dude, he's going to, he is goingto make so much money on the Fox
News circuit and like right sidemedia and all that other shit.
He's going to make so much fucking money off of it.
He's going to go to Microsoft and become like a, a Black Hat
coder or some shit like that. Where?
(07:54):
He's like stuff. Like he's he's going to be fine.
Fuck big balls. Yeah, fuck him and or he'll go
on the Joe Rogan circuit or the the manosphere stuff.
However, though I don't know if you've seen this, but it seems
like some of the manosphere people are starting to turn back
a little bit about Trump and thepolicies they we're going.
(08:17):
To talk about that this episode,yeah, yeah, we're going to talk
a little. Bit well, we'll get into it,
yeah. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk.
But I, I. I've just been seeing some
stuff. I was like, wow, yeah.
Yeah, Yeah, it's, it is. It's kind of interesting,
though, what's happening there. But let's kick it back over to
you. I don't want to take your shine,
no. No, no, not at all.
So the douche canoe of this weekis an oldie but goodie.
(08:39):
They are a fucking scumbag fucking disaster.
Terrible. It's and again, it's always hard
to come up with douche canoes because where we're at
politically and overall worldwide there life in the
world is a huge disaster. We've been in a heat Dome where
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it's been 125° the last few days.
There's been an almost war in Iran.
There's Donald Trump trying to nominate himself for the Nobel
Peace Prize. What the fuck was that?
Yeah, yeah. He.
He really want to. I want it.
(09:19):
I want to be a Nobel Peace Prize.
He. Wants to try to like beat Obama,
Like that's his entire goal is to like one up Obama at this
point. I'd be cooler than Obama.
To be seen as better than yeah, yeah, yeah.
Barack Hussein. Barack Obama, they say.
But so the douche canoe of this week is going to be an oldie but
(09:43):
goodie, Somebody that was in thelimelight 01015 years ago.
OK, so do you remember a woman named Kim Davis?
The name rings a bell, and I don't remember exactly from
where, but the name definitely rings a bell.
OK, well, I actually worked withthe Kim Davis and that's a
pretty ubiquitous name. And the Kim Davis I worked with
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was was really awesome and and cool.
It's the most ADHD thing I've ever.
I worked with the Kim Davis too.I did.
I think I did too my first job. I mean, who hasn't worked?
I think Kim Davis at some point.It's.
A pretty standard name. It's like Jane Doe pretty.
(10:27):
Much. I'm John Johnson.
Yeah, yeah. Big Johnson.
I'm Big Johnson. Big Johnson.
Bravo, they say. So Kim Davis was the Rowan
County clerk in Kentucky who began denying marriage licenses
to same sex couples after the Supreme Court made gay marriage
legal in 2015 from Oberyn, Fell and Hodges.
(10:53):
Oh yes, I recall this very privileged bitch.
Yeah, Happy Pride Month, everybody.
Yeah, Happy Pride Month. Fuck you, Karen Kim, whatever
the fuck your name is. Karen Davis.
The original. Karen So there's a clip that
just will remind people of Miss Davis denying people's ability
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to get married. Absolutely.
Ludicrous. Don't smile at me being
disrespectful to you. You absolutely have.
Disrespecting this by second class citizens is what you're
doing. You're telling us that we don't
deserve the same rights that you?
Do that you have I'm saying thatyou've.
Enjoyed your entire life. Would you do this to an
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interracial couple? Yes, I don't even know one how.
Many times. Have you been married, Kim?
I just want you. All to know that we are not
issuing marriage. License.
Today attending in contempt of court.
What appeal is left attending? The appeal is big circuit the
appeal stay has been denied right The injection is the order
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that you're supposed to issue mayor's license and we're not
issuing mayor's the Supreme Court denied your stay we are
not issuing marriage license today based on what I would ask
you all why are you not issuing marriage licenses today?
Because I'm. Not under authority, because I'm
not. So the the this was this is Kim
Davis. She was publicly elected
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official that worked in a bureaucratic system that is
basically there to issue marriage licenses and as a
government employee, whether youlike it or not, you issue them.
But she basically cited her Christian faith as the reason
why that she would not issue marriage licenses to gay
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couples. And it was passed the Supreme
Court and gay marriage was legalized.
And she said, no, I'm not going to do that.
Which is pretty crazy to think about that, you know, whether or
not you believe what that law isor not, that you can just say,
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no, I'm not going to do that. And within that clip, since we
don't have the visual aspect of it, it was pretty intense.
You had the the two people asking for their marriage
license and you had probably thewhole, and this is Rowan County.
Who knows what Rowan County is? Some small ass town.
Every reporter, journalist in the area was there.
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Yes, with cameras just looking at her saying what are you going
to do? And she she said no.
Yeah, yeah. What a what?
A what a true patriot. Like I mean genuinely, what a
bitch. I it it, it's insane.
And again, you had Mike Huckabeeand the governor, then Matt
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Bevin. I don't know who that.
Is who gives a shit about it? But yeah, he.
Can But Huckabee, we've talked about Huckabee and his whole
really, really fundamentalist Christian attitudes towards
everything. Yeah, supporting her.
And she basically said, no, I'm not going to do this and I'm
going to defy it. And then she ended up going to
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jail. So we, we, we talk about it now.
So that's 1015 years ago. I think she served, I don't know
how many days, but like 10-15 days in, in jail and then was
released. So the reason we're bringing
this back up is that it's, this is was 10 years ago when this
all started to happen. But she is now in trying to.
(14:34):
Yeah. Appeal to the Supreme Court.
She'd been denied a few times, especially in 2020.
But she now has been ordered to spend or to pay $360,000 in
damages and attorney fees to theman and his partner that were
trying to get their marriage license.
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And they're trying to Eric Kim Davis is trying to say, no, I
don't have to pay that. So she's back in the news and
you know what? She didn't get the douche canoe
10 years ago when she should have.
So now this is her opportunity to get it.
Good for her. Two things.
One, good for her for having to for being a piece of shit has
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now cost her hundreds of thousands of dollars.
And two, congratulations bitch, you're now one of the douche
canoes. You have made it into a very
rarefied air space. Absolutely.
And what we say to you is fuck you.
Kim, Davis, Greg and I, and all of the LGBT community are
pleased to nominate you for the Douche Canoe of the Week.
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Oh my God, what a fucking asshole.
Like you really have to have a real like wire missing in order
to to think that one, that you're above the law, but two,
like that, like you just don't think that some laws apply to
you. Or that you.
Can your faith like dictates that the wall doesn't matter?
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That you don't have to do the aspects of your job.
Yeah, who the fuck are you? Exactly.
Well, Sergio, what a great reminder of why Miss Davis is
such a pile of garbage and a douche canoe.
And there's never been, and especially here recently, a more
deserving character for the douche canoe.
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For this award and also to just being able to recognize you can
be a person of faith, but don't push your faith on other people.
Right, right, right. Your, your faith does not
dictate what those what, what laws can exist and shouldn't
exist. But we'll get into that here in
a little bit anyway. But before we get into the main
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story this week, let's go and take a real quick break.
When we come back, we're going to talk about the civil war
that's erupted in Magaworld as aresult of the Trump bombing in
Iran. Hell yeah.
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We are back. So bad.
So, Sergio, this week, well, let's get into it.
A time ago, the US military carried out massive precision
strikes on the three key nuclearfacilities in the Iranian regime
for Doe, Natanz and Esfahan. Everybody.
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Heard. Those names for years as they
built this horribly destructive enterprise, our objective was
the destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and
a stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number one
state sponsor of terror. Tonight I can report to the
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world that the strikes were a spectacular military success.
Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely
and totally obliterate. OK, yeah, so that happened this
week, this past week. And the best part of it is that
he for the most part, said the names of the Iranian sites
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really, really well. And then the enrichment part.
He just totally fucked. Up.
I think it's because he probablyhad to practice it over and over
and over again because he's like, I don't even know what
they're talking about. This is it's.
Computer. I love computer.
Dessler. Dessler, they say.
But what what happened as a result of that, what came out of
that, is this gigantic eruption of infighting within the MAGA
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world. And it has been satisfying to
watch while also like, all right, well, we have to, we have
to strike while the Iron iron's hot here because they're going
to get their messaging together eventually.
And you know what, what it basically has happened here is
that Donald Trump is, at least in my opinion, stepping on Rakes
over and over and over again. Like he's like a cartoon
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character who's just like stepping on the Rakes stepping
on the Rakes. Like, you know, the the
immigration issue that he's beenforcing down people's throats,
but not quote UN quote getting into a war.
Like it's like he's just like Bugs Bunny caught between two
Rakes and he just cannot lose like.
Stepping on them and hit him in the.
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Volume, yeah, that's what it feels like.
I'm like we're watching here. But one of the parts of the MAGA
world that has really started tokind of unwind on itself is like
the podcast bro piece of this, right?
Like the like, not Ted Cruz, theTucker Carlson's of the world,
the Joe Rogan's, like that wholething.
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Theo von. Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von. Fuck, fuck Theo Von.
Actually, you know, I, I, I missed the days when Theo Von
wasn't so political because I thought, like, he had some like,
really funny things to say. And now I'm just like, dude,
shut up. But here's a real quick clip,
though, of Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson discussing said bombing.
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How many people? Live in a run, by the way, I I
don't know the population at all.
No, I don't know the population.You don't know the population of
the country you seek to topple. Well, it's kind of relevant
because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
You don't know anything about Iran so.
OK, I am not the the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran.
You're a senator who's calling. You're the one.
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Who's the government? The one?
Who plays the country that is the best?
Because his he he has just such this fat neck that it looks like
a a, a rooster. The the bottom of the rooster
just going. So which one, Cruiser or
Carlson? Carlson More.
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Yeah, yeah, his his head blends directly into his shoulders.
There's no neck there. He is just.
Fuck it, I hate him. And you know what?
Watching that clip, I hate Ted Cruz.
I hate Tucker Carlson. But Tucker Carlson, I'm just
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like, yeah, fuck yeah. Go after Ted.
Yeah. What is this population that
you're talking about? What?
Oh, so you want to do this? And.
Yeah, Yeah. I think that the, the, the, the,
the thing that comes out of thatfor me and we're going to talk
about a little bit later becausethere, there's been a lot of
division within Mega world that you go, oh, I can kind of get on
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on board with that. And it's a reminder that, OK,
yeah, maybe that, you know, there are people who who hold a
similar position, but like they hold that similar position for a
very different reason. Absolutely.
And so like we're going to get to, we're going to get into that
piece of it, but. Nuances between.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why, why is this?
Why is this matter that we disagree with Tucker even though
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we kind of agree with Tucker, right?
Like, I think that's a really important distinction to make.
So we're going to get to that eventually in the episode here.
But I wanted to play this clip where Trump, you know, he wasn't
particularly happy with what happened between Tucker and and
Cruz. And he he wanted to set them
straight. Really.
Oh, yeah. Carlson.
Criticizing you, saying that you're complicit in the war.
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I I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying.
Let him go get a television network and say it so that
people listen and. Then he just and then he just
walks off. And this is at the G7 in when
they were up in in Canada. So it's, you know.
That's a delicate dance, though,like just talking between you
and I for Trump to say that because Tucker Carlson has a
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huge audience. A gigantic audience.
And Trump, he likes numbers and he likes people that agree with
him. And Tucker, you know, coming
after Cruz like that. Oh, yeah, for sure.
And so Cruz, well, we'll, we'll get, we'll, we'll get, we'll get
into that. Don't worry, don't worry.
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We cover a little bit of that. But last week or two weeks ago
or maybe 3 weeks ago, I don't remember at this point, but we,
we covered a little lady by the name of Candace Owens and she
actually tweeted out here recently in the last couple of
days. Trump is now mocking, mocking
Tucker Carlson for not being on TV complete.
He's completely out of touch andironic given the fact that
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podcasters won from the election.
So, you know, that's another really hard liner MAGA type
who's stepping out of line, so to speak with, with Trump in the
MAGA world saying, Hey, don't forget who got you where you
are. You know what I mean?
Like, and that's a pretty big deal.
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So even Alex Jones has to say hesaid this.
Everybody loves war and thinks it's so cool.
This isn't like Iraq or other places.
This is going to trigger economic depression for sure if
we don't reverse it. So I think this is a big, big
mistake. I'm very, very sad and very,
very upset. And that's Alex Jones who has
carried the water for the America First movement.
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He is like, you know. Crisis actors?
Yeah. Yeah.
Who? Who thinks that the government
is hiring people to put in fake bodies for mass shootings?
But like, he's also like a guy who has been like, oh, yeah,
like, this is the patriot movement.
Like, we are taking the country back and Trump is our guy to do
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it. And here he is stepping outside
of like, the line going all right.
Well, I know that I can't fully say I don't agree with Trump,
but like, I'm really upset aboutthis.
To me, I, I, I, I think it just astounds me that we have
somebody that has this complete and utter control of the
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Republican Party. Everyone bows the knee bends the
knee rather for. For the most part.
And then you have the the Democratic Party, who has a lot
of fodder to go against it and does nothing.
You have Chuck Schumer saying. I've never seen the people so
aroused before. Fuck you, Chuck.
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And you and I have been texting earlier about just the
Democratic Party and what they stand for and how abhorrent it.
Is it is absolutely. And you were talking about Chuck
Schumer just a second ago. And I want to bring us back to
another Chuck real quick. Chuck Kirk, Charlie Kirk.
He got it on the on the on the action, posting a poll on
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Twitter asking his followers if the United States should get
involved in Israel's war againstIran.
With over 90%, 90% of the 5 / 500,000 people who voted on this
on this poll, which is not an insignificant amount of people.
If you think about that in termsof like a holes, a stadium size,
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500,000 people in a stadium all said, 90% of them said no, we
don't want this well. And and that's the thing with
polls is the the most part is trying to get somebody to
actually vote for. It.
Yeah, yeah. And then if you get 500,000
people to vote against it and 90% and it's.
(26:29):
This is Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's audience.
That's right. But here, here's Trump
discussing. We, we talked a little bit
earlier, just a second ago aboutTucker Carlson and Ted Cruz.
Here's Trump declaring publicly that Tucker called him to kiss
the ring. Tucker's a nice guy.
He called and apologized the other day because he thought he
(26:51):
said things that were a little bit too strong.
And I appreciated that. And Ted Cruz is a nice guy.
I mean, he's been with me for a long time.
I'd say once the race was over. He's been with me ever since,
right? But very simple.
If they think that it's OK for Iran to have a nuclear weapon,
then they should oppose me. But nobody thinks it.
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And I think like that little last little bit there were you
saying if they think that Iran should have a nuclear weapon,
they should oppose me is a threat that is a full blown
threat. I will primary the fucking shit
out of you next year. Do not step to me.
If you want to lose your audience, come at me 'cause I
will make sure that you lose it.Tucker, Ted, whoever, Joe Rogan,
(27:38):
whatever Charlie Kirk and and this feels like for me very much
like the Iraq war again, right? Like we've got these two sides
civil war within the parties. And if you are, you know.
And nobody wants to come off as weak.
Yeah, and. It's like, it's like the the war
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on crime, right? Like you, you cannot seem like
you're a softy on crime because you'll never get elected.
No. But to be strong like on the war
on crime means that you're willing to put people in jail
for the rest of their lives for penny crimes or.
You're going to spend trillion, trillions of.
Dollars. Trillions of dollars.
Trillions. Trillions of dollars.
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For for war and bombs and doing things that are they're going to
kill people. And that's.
Going to involve us in wars for years and years to come.
Well, yeah. And I think that's one of the
things that Tucker Carlson and the thread that we're we're
pulling with this one, at least for this episode, is that is
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where we agree. I don't want to.
I don't want to see American soldiers in the Middle East
dying for the next 20 years likeI did from the time I graduated
high school up until a couple ofyears ago.
One you also don't want to have.I'm not, I'm not, I'm speaking
from a very like military focused perspective, but I'm,
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but I guess what I also mean is like, I don't want to see
civilians die in an unnecessary war.
I don't want to see absolutely all of the bad things that we've
seen in Iraq and Afghanistan happen and the.
All the Middle East. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like Syria? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. And it's when you involve
yourself in those kind of campaigns, then tons of money
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gets brought in, there's unrest,and then you have a pull out
that we had this exit strategy and it was disastrous.
And as soon as the United Statesexited?
Afghanistan. Afghanistan.
The Taliban took over within, what, a week?
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It it not, I think it was even less than that.
But yeah, you're, you're not wrong.
Like it's you're, you're, you'reopening a vacation.
Trillions of dollars, yeah. Yeah, all of it for nothing, for
the for the Taliban to just takecontrol of the territory.
Again. Ever again, you did nothing.
You did nothing. Yeah.
So in this civil war that's happening within the right, I
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want to highlight a another cliphere when you're being praised
by a man the International Criminal Court has called a war
criminal who's being charged with allegedly responsible for
who's been charged with being allegedly responsible for a war
crimes of starvation as a methodof warfare and intentionally
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directing an attack against the civilian population and the
crimes against humanity of murder, persecution and other
inhumane acts from October 8th, 2023 until at least at least May
20th, 2024. You might be on the wrong side
of history. Congratulations, President
Trump, your bold decision to target Iran's nuclear facilities
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with the awesome and righteous might of the United States will
change history in Operation Rising Line.
Israel has done truly amazing things, but in tonight's action
against Iran's nuclear facilities, America has been
truly unsurpassed. It has done what no other
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country on earth could do. History will record that
President Trump acted to deny the world's most dangerous
regime the world's most dangerous weapons.
His leadership today has createda pivot of history that can help
lead the Middle East and beyond.To a future of possibility.
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God damn it. I pay Benjamin Netanyahu because
you know what? He's a survivalist, but he is
basically like a Vladimir Putin.But.
He is just playing the fiddle and he is putting the US in
these positions that serve his policies for his Conservative
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government to be able to keep him from going to jail.
A fascist who wants a fascist government to fight for his
fascist war. And saying, like you, if you
don't do this, you're anti-Semitic.
Yep, Yep. And that's where we're going to
leave that. And, and for good reason.
There are lots of of of sensitivities around it, but but
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let's also call a spade a spade.They're using the United States
and our bunker Buster bombs to play out their their their
ambitions to have Iran not have a nuclear weapon while they have
a cache of them. Well, and I, I think again, what
you're saying is that clearly there's been a lot of
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anti-Semitic attitudes. Yes, 100%.
And so Israel is a small fish ina big pond.
Yeah, for sure. But they have a lot of power and
they have a lot of support within the United States.
But we are going into a point right now where Israel is being
able to really, really flex their muscle and has the support
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of the United States to be able to do what they want to do.
That's a really good way of putting it.
That's a really, really good wayof putting it.
And I think I I still stand by the statement, though, that if
you are getting a pat on the back from someone that the
international courts are saying is a war criminal, maybe you're
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on the wrong side. Here's Sean Hannity setting the
stage in opposition to the isolationist part of MAGA in a
monologue earlier this week. I addressed the ayatollahs.
I addressed the supreme leader. I addressed the people of Iran
directly. And I'll say the same thing
again tonight. When President Trump says
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something, you better pay very close attention.
He means what he says. He will always put America and
Americans interests first. That is defined as the Trump
doctrine. And now Iran is learning all of
this tonight the hard way. Joining us now from the CENTER.
Fuck him, because the Trump Doctrine is what's going to give
me more. Money, right?
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So like the Trump doctrine apparently, if you remember was
that he's the anti war president.
So that is really, you know, really sticking in a lot of the
isolationists like Tucker Carlson and his crawl for sure.
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When he was talking to Ted Cruz,like you guys said, you weren't
going to get us into these forever wars and here we are
bombing the shit out of Iran. We're going to skip this next
clip that I had set up about Mark Levin talking about peace
through elimination only becauseMark Levin is a insufferable
twat to listen to. I hate this motherfuckers.
I'll show you the clip offline. It's he is such an annoying
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prick. I.
What's so? What's so annoying about his
voice? His voice is terrible.
I fucking hate it. I'm not going, I don't want to,
I'm not going to force you to itto listen to it.
But listening to Sean Hannity gave me 2002 vibes like, Oh yes,
weapons of mass destruction, like George Bush is just just
looking out for the American people and what the American
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people need. And this is what the American
people want. They want, they want a
retaliation for something. It's a little different this
time, obviously, right? Because you know, there wasn't a
direct terrorist attack on the United States.
But still giving those vibes. It's still giving, you know what
I mean? It's still giving Queen.
Let's take a real quick break. When we return, we're going to
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talk about the escalation a little bit more, and then we're
going to round out the show witha flurry of a fucking Trump
being a piece of shit. We're back, yes.
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Dude, we played so much Dave Matthews in between the two sets
here. I I feel refreshed, if I'm being
honest, really. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but
anyway, some of the dollars bitch all the way up.
So I'm, I'll be reading in part from an article in Mediaite from
Cody Hall. And he goes on to say, quote the
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escalating conflict between Israel and Iran and President
Trump's role in it has driven a wedge in the MAGA coalition that
just months ago seemed united for the long haul.
As ringmaster of the MAGA circus, Trump finds himself
juggling chainsaws as the coalition he built by force
begins to crack down the middle.Trump, of course, launched his
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2016 campaign with an assault onGeorge W Bush's war in Iraq, a
war that the right wing media cheered on uniformly.
After slaughtering that sacred cow, he developed a base of
voters who saw him as the anti war candidate regardless of how
accurate that belief was, or at the very least averse to foreign
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entanglements. That base of support however, is
now pitched in opposition with an equally vocal group of boomer
neocons who backed the Iraq war vociferously, yet have gone all
full MAGA on their quest for an audience.
Those two factions are now at war over Israel's strike on Iran
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and fighting that followed. And suddenly the commander in
chief finds himself with the distraction of having to referee
a shouting match about interventionalism and
isolationism among his fiercest allies.
For nearly a decade now, Donald Trump has could lock, could
count on, unlocks up loyalty from mega media industrial
complex. But now the gloves are off.
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Firebrands who once covered in coward in fear are defying Trump
or speaking out explicitly against his apparent March
towards war. Tucker Carlson is attacking his
old colleague Sean Hannity, and the likes of Joe Rogan are
jumping in to echo the frustration with Trump's
approach. You'll recall that Trump has
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that Rogan, rather, has become amouthpiece for the right wing.
He's platformed extremists and Trump sycophants on his show
before, during and after the election.
And he has said on one of the more recent podcast episodes
that he put out. I think the whole MAGA thing
right now is very divided, particularly because one of
these the things that they votedfor was no war.
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Well, now it seems like we're ina war and it's quick.
We're six months in and we're and it's already popped off.
And Joe Rogan, whether or not you hate him or like him, has a
like nice, not like a 500,000 Charlie Kirk audience, but
millions of young men listen to him and he literally turned the
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election on its head by himself.I mean, I think Rogan is
basically the new Howard Stern, right?
Yeah, I had to agree with that. And so with the things I
struggle with, Rogan is that he thinks that he is way smarter
than everybody else and. For sure.
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And he will spout off this stuffwithout really, really being
able to follow up with it. And it's really, really super
annoying that you just. You know, I think for me when
you when you say that like he soI remember, I don't know if
we've talked about this one around on the show, but like he
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used to surround himself with guests who could teach him
something. And now it is just like the same
circuit of like comedians and like male chauvinist, like
manosphere types who who are on the show or like the conspiracy
theorists like the Alex Jones ofthe world or I forget the one
guy's name, but he's got a Netflix special about like
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ancient aliens and like ancient architecture and about how.
You know, he like he doesn't think the Egyptians built the
pyramids and it was aliens and like giants and all this other
stuff. And it's like it's, it's we're
no longer talking about like, what is space travel look like
in 15 years? How do you accelerate like human
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development? Like we're not talking about
things like that. Like he started the podcast with
or became more mainstream with the podcast about Now we're
talking about, you know, the same dumb bullshit over and over
and over again with regards to his flirtation with the extreme
right. Absolutely.
And I, I think they're extreme right flirtatious because then
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he had Bernie Sanders on and. Just a couple days ago.
And he was agreeing with a lot of the things that Bernie
Sanders was saying. So it's, I, I think it has to go
back to the blowback from what Donald Trump has been doing,
especially when it comes to, I mean, there's been a lot of
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really, really detrimental aspects of the presidency.
But the immigration aspect, no, for sure has, has been awful.
Doge has been a huge flashpoint.And now when it comes to the
Iran bombing, without going through Congress and just.
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Unilaterally doing whatever he wants to do and.
And getting support. Yeah, yeah.
And you know, I mean support from like the warhawks and the
neocons. But like this new again, I, I
hate to bring it back to what Tucker Carlson said earlier, but
like there is that threat of like anti war leftists like
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ourselves and isolationist rightists who would, who would
rather us, you know, shut the borders down and make sure that
anyone who doesn't put belong here leaves and we don't get
involved in any wars and we pollute the fuck out of the
environment. Like there's just so many
things, so many differences thatcome out of that one similarity
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that it bugs me to no end when Isee people who are on the left
who are like posting things on blue sky about like we'll see
even Tucker's on our side. No, he's not.
He's really, really fucking not.But the only reason he's saying
that is because he doesn't want the people from those countries
coming to the United States. You ain't wrong there.
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You ain't wrong there. He doesn't want to spend money
internationally when it comes towars, and he doesn't want people
that are going to be displaced from those wars coming to the
United States. Sergio, you're absolutely right
about that, and we're going to actually revisit that concept
here towards the end of the episode.
So just hold on to that thought because you're you're, you're
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you're right on. You're right on track there.
But I'm going to continue the conversation about this civil
war that's happening and more from The Daily Beast.
Steve Bannon, who is a. Piece of shit Steve Bannon.
Steve Bannon is such a. Horrible human being, horrible
human being. But he escalated his world on
Fox News during the week when hecalls for the Department of
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Justice to investigate whether the network is, quote,
cheerleading the United States onto war with Iran on behalf of
a foreign government. Again, it's this anti-Semitism
meets like realistic understanding of like what the
world looks like. Like, OK, we really shouldn't be
getting involved here. But like you're blaming the Jews
for it. Like it's like.
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He likes that. He loves to play that angle.
As President Trump's most ardentsupporters were rocked by
disagreements about whether the United States should join is
Israel's attack against Iran's nuclear program, Bannon accused
the network of not being, quote,true MAGA.
The president invited Bannon to the White House for a lunch on
Thursday. This is before we drop bombs, by
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the way, in order to signal to the isolationist wing of his
base, which includes the Tucker Carlson of the world, the
Marjorie Taylor Greens of the world, blah blah blah, that he
was taking their concerns seriously.
Their meeting had very little impact on his decision making,
though. Just a day later, he fucking
dropped those bunker Buster bombs, which is an incredible
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alliteration. Bunker Buster bombs Say that
three times fast. Say it three times fast.
Bunker Buster bombs. Bunker Buster bomb.
Can't, you can't do it. It's impossible.
It's an impossible, it's an impossible thing to do.
So, yeah. So Bannon calls for, is calling
for the Department of Justice toopen a FARA investigation.
And if you're not familiar with the FARA investigation, it means
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Foreign Agents Registration Act.It requires individuals that do
political and do political advocacy work on behalf of
foreign governments, companies and other organizations to
register with the Department of Justice.
Quote from this is from Bannon quote, people are on the right
are now confronting an unpleasant reality.
A great unmasking the Murdoch's do not put America first.
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There needs to be a thorough farinvestigation into Fox's
relationship with a foreign power.
I think they need to see if theyrepresent a foreign government
as an agent, if they go back andcheck the cell phones, see the
data, check the emails and and back and forth what they are
pushing on American people, whatare they pushing on the American
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people? Where did this misinformation
come from? He said.
He said he, he and his fellow isolationists agreed with Trump
that Iran shouldn't have nuclearweapons but believe that there
are many paths to get there, which sounds like to me, I don't
know when Obama made an agreement with Iran to reduce
their nuclear production. Sounds like one of those, one of
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the many paths. I mean, I don't know.
I'm not, I'm not a nuclear as nuclear ologist, but.
You know, I understand that in college, boy.
I mean, seriously, like, I just,I don't know.
I feel like, I feel like it's, it's, it is one of those
positions that the right is now like, oh, yeah, maybe Obama
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could have been right by like, Idon't know.
I mean, I think Hillary Clinton even said something to the
effect of like she when she tookover from John Kerry, as you
know, head of the State Department or what?
Secretary. Of state, sorry, thank you.
When she took over as Secretary of State, that, you know, they
worked really diligently to get Iran to pull off like their
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nuclear production. And they did a really good job
of doing it. Not not to say that they did a
perfect job. I, I think it's really hard to
when you have countries that have nuclear aspirations and
then you have other countries like North Korea or you have
Russia that are going to be our China, China.
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China. That are going to be more than
willing to support those productions.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. To not have a superpower, which
is the United States. Yeah, I agreed.
I agreed. Bannon also accused Fox and
other Iran warhawks of selling aquote, phony sense of urgency in
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upselling their goals from top from toppling Iran's nuclear
program to full scale regime change, which is something that
you're seeing bandied about in the news right now about this
full scale regime change. And you know how the I don't
know what, what, what, what the the leader of Iran, I don't know
what the the name of it is, but you know, they're talking about,
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OK, well, how do we get him out now?
And it's like, Jesus Christ, like we've seen this before.
We don't want this. This is where far right wing
elements and the rest of us antiwar folks that we talked about
earlier crossover, but the lefties and other normies who
don't want war because we don't want people to die.
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You know what I mean? Like we don't want people dying.
We don't want to see money spent, but like money spent is
the secondary. It's people dying that we don't
want to have happen here. The far right elements that are
anti. That's not true because you know
what? They don't give a shit if it's
not people in the United States,so.
Right but I mean like you and I who are anti war would say well
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we don't want war because we don't people to die their their
whole thought is well we don't want people coming here.
Yeah, but they will kill people over there.
Sure, sure. So that, you know, we, we don't
pitch and complain about it, Sure.
Yeah, no, I, I, I, you know, there, there is, Yeah, it's,
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it's, it's it's a very difficultsituation for sure.
But I think that, you know, those of us who are anti war
would see the situation through the lens of I just don't want to
see people dying for no reason. The far right elements that are
anti interventionalist don't want to get involved because
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war-torn countries produce a lotof refugees, asylum seekers and
migrants fleeing war. They are absolutely against war,
but not because they see conflict in war as a bad thing,
but because it produces people that they don't want in the
country. Black, black and brown bodies
very specifically Iran did strike back after only after
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back channel conversations that allowed for the United States to
pull its soldiers off of that base in Qatar and retreat to
Qatar. Qatar, Qatar, corrupt country
that pays, it pays off. I don't know presidents with jet
planes, but they they retreated to the capital of Doha and it
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was it was more than, it was more symbolic than anything,
right? Like Iran wasn't going to
actually affect anything in thatmoment.
But they couldn't be seen as weak and they didn't want to
encourage any more retaliation from the United States.
So they were like, hey, this is what we're going to do.
Get your guys out of there. We have to make face.
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So if it was, you know, it was more for show than anything
else. The problem is that after that,
after that, Israel set off aboutbombing the fuck out of Iran
even more. And frankly, you know, I feel
foolish when I think about the situation because Israel has
been doing this for a while. They've been signaling that this
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is coming. They've been taking out all of
its neighbors, pelting them withbombs and drone attacks all the
way so that they could kind of, I don't know, attack Iran and do
the thing that they that Benjamin Netanyahu has been
wanting to do for over 20 years now, which is take out Iran's
nuclear capacity. And you know, it, it feels
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incredibly coordinated. And it kind of makes you wonder
what's coming next, right? Like, you know, I wanted to add
this as a as a foil to the episode.
And this is according to the AP,you brought this up earlier, but
according to the AP, the missilestrikes will only sit Iran's
nuclear capability back a coupleof months.
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This is in stark contrast to what we've been we opened the
segment with, right? Like according to Trump's own
Intel department, which is what you were talking about earlier,
these strikes did they were not a total knockout blow like he
would have us believe. Quote AUS to me.
AUS Intelligence Report contradicts statements from
Trump and and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
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about the status of Iran's nuclear facilities, According to
the people, the report found that while the Sunday strikes on
Fordo, Atans and Isfan nuclear sites did significant damage,
the facilities were not totally destroyed.
So we spent a fucking ton of money putting soldiers lives in
danger, right? Risk starting a war in the
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region and could have set off anentire environmental catastrophe
that would have rivaled Chernobyl.
And we did that to do what? Except for signalling something?
I, I don't, I really don't know what we did it for other than to
say like, hey China, Hey Russia,like what are we?
Like, what was the point? I, I think the point was that
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Netanyahu said, hey, we need to do this because this is going to
be an intimate or intimate, it'sgoing to be a strike against us.
And we we need your help to to get get at them.
Yeah. I mean, you know, for me, at
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least when I think about it, like, even with that
consideration, I'm still unclearas to what this exercise in
force was for. But I don't think this is going
away anytime soon. No.
I feel like there's so much morethat we could cover regarding
this, but I'm going to, I need to retreat back to Hootie the
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Blowfish. So I'll give my final thoughts
on this and pitch it over to youfor for to close this out,
Sergio. I think many folks, including
myself, who when they saw TuckerCarlson go after Ted Cruz said,
OK, I have something in common with him finally.
That was the kind of moment thathappened.
But as we go through our series that we're going to be doing
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with him, we'll eventually find out his anti war stance is more
about his racism more than it isanything.
Trump and the rest of the mago world are scrambling to figure
out the messaging in this moment.
And I wish you mentioned this earlier.
I really wish Democrats would finally fucking find their
message and their voice to call the hypocrisy the cruelty and
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hammer home that this has done nothing more than make all of us
more unsafe. Sergio, turn over.
You finish that. Well, I mean it.
This will always end up in a terrible place because you have
such well written words and you say great things.
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I'm just like. But I also agree with you that
we are in a space right now where I, I really feel that the
Democrats need to really start focusing on getting a backbone
and being able to do what they need to do to be able to be in
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an anti war. It's not anti American to say,
hey, we, we need to not have wars going on in, in the Middle
East, even though there, there'sa lot of sentiments saying like,
hey, we need to bomb the shit out of everybody.
And so I, I really think that weneed to take a step back and
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realize what's happened in the past, how many successful war
campaigns we've had and how successful have they all been.
Anyone listening to this podcasthas been alive during the war in
Afghanistan, the war against terror.
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I remember you remember and anyone of listening to this
podcast probably remembers when we were going through stages of
red, yellow and green for like threat levels against terrorism
in our own country and the job job done or job finished or
whatever it was like, you know, the the declaration that Obama,
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not Obama, maybe you know, Obamahonestly, but that Bush made on
on that aircraft carrier saying that job was done.
It's like we are we've learned nothing in under 20 years.
And it really frustrates me. I don't mean to cut across your
your final thoughts. And I do this a lot.
So I know that I need to shut up, but like, it's just
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impossible to think that this country has learned any fucking
thing. It hasn't because we continue to
repeat the same cyclical patterns that we've done in the
past. Yeah.
So we continue to meddle in Middle Eastern affairs.
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And we all know that these bombings and these three
different nuclear sites haven't really done anything because.
And they also moved all their nuclear material before then.
Exactly. And So what are we doing right
now? It's, it's all, it's a, it's a
reality TV show. He has done it again.
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He has made it so that all of usare on tender hooks and that
we're waiting for the next thingto happen on the neck on like on
the next episode of. Whatever show that you're going
to watch. I mean, he's done it again and
we're, you know, it's really frustrating, but.
And that's the thing. And this, this is my final
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thought. Continue to go on No.
Because I keep them cutting across you.
So that's my fault. But we, we.
Continue to go to this aspect ofsociety where this is a reality
TV show where we go, oh, this isgoing to happen, this is going
to happen and stay tuned for thenext episode.
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On next week's episode of Mega World, where Donald Trump
confronts, you know, Tucker Carlson, like, yeah, you're
right. You're not wrong anyway.
Cool guys. Yeah, we're we're we're getting
there, folks. Listeners, we want to thank you
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As always, we're your host. I'm Greg.
And I'm Sergey. Oh sheesh, keep me hot I.
Feel a little excited right now?You are.
(00:27):
You're all fucking on pins and needles and stuff.
Why? I mean, you've been definitely
setting up the mood lighting andI am just, I'm ready to pod.
Well, this week we're going to be discussing our drunken master
approach to entering into a war in Iran.
So yeah, it's going to be great.Are you going to drop big loads?
(00:49):
So many loads, so many loads. Not enough time for daddy, they
say. Daddy's home, Ding Dong, Daddy's
home. But before we get into it,
though, Sergio, why don't you hit me?
Now that we've done at least oneTrump impression, let's go ahead
and get into the Silver Linings for the week.
What do you got, man? So silver lining is that there
was a brand new car purchase and, and I don't know if you saw
(01:11):
it. Oh.
I did. And that baby only had 7 miles
on it. Freshy fresh.
So fresh, but it was also super frustrating because I hate car
dealerships. How how did the how did the so I
text messaged you when you were telling me, Oh yeah, we're at
the dealership, but you never responded.
Like how did the the bartering go?
(01:32):
Did you guys? It it was so frustrating to the
sense the actual salesperson that we were with the majority
of the time was awesome. The finance guy was a complete
piece of shit and he should be at the douche canoe of the week
because he fucking sucks. And you know what, Seth?
I'm coming after you. Oh.
Drop the 1st. Name Yeah, fuck you Seth, but
(01:54):
yeah, we're we were not a big fan of Seth but.
Fuck you Seth, you piece of shit.
Exactly. But in in the end we got a car,
the other car was fixed. So now we're back to being A2
car household, which is exciting.
So it's got to feel good at least it.
You know what it is just gives you a little bit more freedom to
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be able to do what you want to do when you want to do it.
And I appreciate that. But it also brings me back to
our point from last week that I'm very lucky to even be able
to E bike around, you know? Yeah.
But now you don't have to worry about it if you don't want to,
you know, especially the heat being the way it is, the heat
Dome sitting on the over the East Coast right now.
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I mean, you definitely don't want to be biking in this
regardless, Yeah, it's fucking miserable outside.
It's not my favorite and you know, I know you're not a fan
and I'm not a fan of. Not a fan, they say.
Not a fan. Not a fan, they say, of summer.
And it is. Summer came in hot and hard.
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Yeah, and it's only June, so buckle up, folks.
It's going to get it. Was like the first, it was the
first day of summer where it was97° and I I think next week will
be a little bit better, but it it, yeah, it's.
Going to be great. It was doing it's damn thing.
I can't wait. I I for 1:00 AM so excited for a
nuclear winter mixed with the impending doom of global
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warming. Can't wait.
That is not my silver lining. My silver lining?
I was just going to say, how about you?
So my silver lining is retreating back to the 1990s
again. I have been blasting Counting
Crows, Dave Matthews Band, Hootie and the Blowfish.
Just. What's your what's your favorite
Counting Crows on? We're going to go see them soon.
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Black and Blue I think Blue is agreat song.
The new Counting Crows album is really good.
I've not listened to it at all. I'm not prepped.
It is so good. It is so very good.
Really. I am, you know, sleep, sleep
sleeper pick for the week, Counting Crows.
I love him. I love him.
But in a world where everything feels so dangerous right now, it
really has provided a lot of comfort.
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It's kind of like an old blanket, you know, going back
into that period of time, early 2000s, late 90s of going all
right, you know, the world was simpler back then.
You know, even though like, oh, a heartbreak or a, or a love or,
you know, a sporting event or, you know, going to see, I mean,
I saw Counting Crows over like 20 years ago.
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Really. It was my first concert and it
really takes me back every single time so.
Did you? Did you know that Adam Dirt
where's like, wigs all the time,right?
He's so he, have you seen his, like most recent look?
And he's like, he's completely his like facial hair is gone.
Hair is like buzz cut. Like he's like super tight now.
Really. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what?
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Good for him. Yeah, yeah, because I mean he
had like the the braids for a bit and.
He had the locks. Oh yeah, that's right.
He had locks. Yeah.
And then he had like a really bad mustache combo.
I. I'm going to say, you know, Adam
Duritz for is not the most aesthetically pleasing looking
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guy. He he pulled Jennifer Aniston.
Jennifer Aniston's not my type. No.
But. He.
He he he out kicked his coverageon that one.
Oh my God, are you kidding me? He has played way over his
station when it comes to his female companionship.
Absolutely. Yep, Yep, Yep.
And I mean, I I know Leo, Leo DiCaprio is kind of disgusting
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with the age range that he does,but Leo is also a better looking
guy. He's doing well for himself,
yeah, but. Adam, you know Adam gives hopes
to to. To people like us, yeah.
Yeah. The the the.
Except we can't say the. Ugly ducklings of the world, as
it were. You know I'm an ugly duckling
and I'm OK with that. But you've got a great voice.
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I don't know about that. I like it.
I. Don't know.
I don't know guys. Well, now that we've gotten
through the the Silver Linings, let's take a real quick break.
When we come back, we're going to talk about the douche canoe.
Let's go. We are Sergio.
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It's douche canoe time. What do you?
Man, I always get super excited with this.
And you know, I was feeling a little bit motivated when I was
writing. I, I wrote like two or three
douche canoes for the week. And it's really funny because
you have it on the screen and I just look at what I write and I
just like, Oh my God, that's grammatically so incorrect and
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stupid. But we're, we're, we're going to
rock'n'roll today with our, our douche canoe.
And but before we get into the person that I'm nominating for
today, we're going to talk aboutlast week's douche canoe and big
balls. Oh OK, give it you have an
update. I do.
You have a ball. Update a.
Big A big ball update. Let's have it then.
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He resigned from the US government.
I saw that. I saw that I wasn't going to
bring it up. I I think I actually posted
something on our blue sky. But yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gone.
He's he's gone. He's gone.
I mean that is probably quicker than Jeff Sessions being the
Attorney General and and the unfortunately he will probably
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make a lot more money and continue to be a huge douche,
but at least he's not a federal government employee.
Dude, he's going to, he is goingto make so much money on the Fox
News circuit and like right sidemedia and all that other shit.
He's going to make so much fucking money off of it.
He's going to go to Microsoft and become like a, a Black Hat
coder or some shit like that. Where?
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He's like stuff. Like he's he's going to be fine.
Fuck big balls. Yeah, fuck him and or he'll go
on the Joe Rogan circuit or the the manosphere stuff.
However, though I don't know if you've seen this, but it seems
like some of the manosphere people are starting to turn back
a little bit about Trump and thepolicies they we're going.
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To talk about that this episode,yeah, yeah, we're going to talk
a little. Bit well, we'll get into it,
yeah. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk.
But I, I. I've just been seeing some
stuff. I was like, wow, yeah.
Yeah, Yeah, it's, it is. It's kind of interesting,
though, what's happening there. But let's kick it back over to
you. I don't want to take your shine,
no. No, no, not at all.
So the douche canoe of this weekis an oldie but goodie.
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They are a fucking scumbag fucking disaster.
Terrible. It's and again, it's always hard
to come up with douche canoes because where we're at
politically and overall worldwide there life in the
world is a huge disaster. We've been in a heat Dome where
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it's been 125° the last few days.
There's been an almost war in Iran.
There's Donald Trump trying to nominate himself for the Nobel
Peace Prize. What the fuck was that?
Yeah, yeah. He.
He really want to. I want it.
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I want to be a Nobel Peace Prize.
He. Wants to try to like beat Obama,
Like that's his entire goal is to like one up Obama at this
point. I'd be cooler than Obama.
To be seen as better than yeah, yeah, yeah.
Barack Hussein. Barack Obama, they say.
But so the douche canoe of this week is going to be an oldie but
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goodie, Somebody that was in thelimelight 01015 years ago.
OK, so do you remember a woman named Kim Davis?
The name rings a bell, and I don't remember exactly from
where, but the name definitely rings a bell.
OK, well, I actually worked withthe Kim Davis and that's a
pretty ubiquitous name. And the Kim Davis I worked with
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was was really awesome and and cool.
It's the most ADHD thing I've ever.
I worked with the Kim Davis too.I did.
I think I did too my first job. I mean, who hasn't worked?
I think Kim Davis at some point.It's.
A pretty standard name. It's like Jane Doe pretty.
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Much. I'm John Johnson.
Yeah, yeah. Big Johnson.
I'm Big Johnson. Big Johnson.
Bravo, they say. So Kim Davis was the Rowan
County clerk in Kentucky who began denying marriage licenses
to same sex couples after the Supreme Court made gay marriage
legal in 2015 from Oberyn, Fell and Hodges.
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Oh yes, I recall this very privileged bitch.
Yeah, Happy Pride Month, everybody.
Yeah, Happy Pride Month. Fuck you, Karen Kim, whatever
the fuck your name is. Karen Davis.
The original. Karen So there's a clip that
just will remind people of Miss Davis denying people's ability
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to get married. Absolutely.
Ludicrous. Don't smile at me being
disrespectful to you. You absolutely have.
Disrespecting this by second class citizens is what you're
doing. You're telling us that we don't
deserve the same rights that you?
Do that you have I'm saying thatyou've.
Enjoyed your entire life. Would you do this to an
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interracial couple? Yes, I don't even know one how.
Many times. Have you been married, Kim?
I just want you. All to know that we are not
issuing marriage. License.
Today attending in contempt of court.
What appeal is left attending? The appeal is big circuit the
appeal stay has been denied right The injection is the order
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that you're supposed to issue mayor's license and we're not
issuing mayor's the Supreme Court denied your stay we are
not issuing marriage license today based on what I would ask
you all why are you not issuing marriage licenses today?
Because I'm. Not under authority, because I'm
not. So the the this was this is Kim
Davis. She was publicly elected
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official that worked in a bureaucratic system that is
basically there to issue marriage licenses and as a
government employee, whether youlike it or not, you issue them.
But she basically cited her Christian faith as the reason
why that she would not issue marriage licenses to gay
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couples. And it was passed the Supreme
Court and gay marriage was legalized.
And she said, no, I'm not going to do that.
Which is pretty crazy to think about that, you know, whether or
not you believe what that law isor not, that you can just say,
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no, I'm not going to do that. And within that clip, since we
don't have the visual aspect of it, it was pretty intense.
You had the the two people asking for their marriage
license and you had probably thewhole, and this is Rowan County.
Who knows what Rowan County is? Some small ass town.
Every reporter, journalist in the area was there.
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Yes, with cameras just looking at her saying what are you going
to do? And she she said no.
Yeah, yeah. What a what?
A what a true patriot. Like I mean genuinely, what a
bitch. I it it, it's insane.
And again, you had Mike Huckabeeand the governor, then Matt
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Bevin. I don't know who that.
Is who gives a shit about it? But yeah, he.
Can But Huckabee, we've talked about Huckabee and his whole
really, really fundamentalist Christian attitudes towards
everything. Yeah, supporting her.
And she basically said, no, I'm not going to do this and I'm
going to defy it. And then she ended up going to
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jail. So we, we, we talk about it now.
So that's 1015 years ago. I think she served, I don't know
how many days, but like 10-15 days in, in jail and then was
released. So the reason we're bringing
this back up is that it's, this is was 10 years ago when this
all started to happen. But she is now in trying to.
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Yeah. Appeal to the Supreme Court.
She'd been denied a few times, especially in 2020.
But she now has been ordered to spend or to pay $360,000 in
damages and attorney fees to theman and his partner that were
trying to get their marriage license.
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And they're trying to Eric Kim Davis is trying to say, no, I
don't have to pay that. So she's back in the news and
you know what? She didn't get the douche canoe
10 years ago when she should have.
So now this is her opportunity to get it.
Good for her. Two things.
One, good for her for having to for being a piece of shit has
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now cost her hundreds of thousands of dollars.
And two, congratulations bitch, you're now one of the douche
canoes. You have made it into a very
rarefied air space. Absolutely.
And what we say to you is fuck you.
Kim, Davis, Greg and I, and all of the LGBT community are
pleased to nominate you for the Douche Canoe of the Week.
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Oh my God, what a fucking asshole.
Like you really have to have a real like wire missing in order
to to think that one, that you're above the law, but two,
like that, like you just don't think that some laws apply to
you. Or that you.
Can your faith like dictates that the wall doesn't matter?
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That you don't have to do the aspects of your job.
Yeah, who the fuck are you? Exactly.
Well, Sergio, what a great reminder of why Miss Davis is
such a pile of garbage and a douche canoe.
And there's never been, and especially here recently, a more
deserving character for the douche canoe.
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For this award and also to just being able to recognize you can
be a person of faith, but don't push your faith on other people.
Right, right, right. Your, your faith does not
dictate what those what, what laws can exist and shouldn't
exist. But we'll get into that here in
a little bit anyway. But before we get into the main
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story this week, let's go and take a real quick break.
When we come back, we're going to talk about the civil war
that's erupted in Magaworld as aresult of the Trump bombing in
Iran. Hell yeah.
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We are back. So bad.
So, Sergio, this week, well, let's get into it.
A time ago, the US military carried out massive precision
strikes on the three key nuclearfacilities in the Iranian regime
for Doe, Natanz and Esfahan. Everybody.
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Heard. Those names for years as they
built this horribly destructive enterprise, our objective was
the destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and
a stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number one
state sponsor of terror. Tonight I can report to the
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world that the strikes were a spectacular military success.
Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely
and totally obliterate. OK, yeah, so that happened this
week, this past week. And the best part of it is that
he for the most part, said the names of the Iranian sites
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really, really well. And then the enrichment part.
He just totally fucked. Up.
I think it's because he probablyhad to practice it over and over
and over again because he's like, I don't even know what
they're talking about. This is it's.
Computer. I love computer.
Dessler. Dessler, they say.
But what what happened as a result of that, what came out of
that, is this gigantic eruption of infighting within the MAGA
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world. And it has been satisfying to
watch while also like, all right, well, we have to, we have
to strike while the Iron iron's hot here because they're going
to get their messaging together eventually.
And you know what, what it basically has happened here is
that Donald Trump is, at least in my opinion, stepping on Rakes
over and over and over again. Like he's like a cartoon
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character who's just like stepping on the Rakes stepping
on the Rakes. Like, you know, the the
immigration issue that he's beenforcing down people's throats,
but not quote UN quote getting into a war.
Like it's like he's just like Bugs Bunny caught between two
Rakes and he just cannot lose like.
Stepping on them and hit him in the.
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Volume, yeah, that's what it feels like.
I'm like we're watching here. But one of the parts of the MAGA
world that has really started tokind of unwind on itself is like
the podcast bro piece of this, right?
Like the like, not Ted Cruz, theTucker Carlson's of the world,
the Joe Rogan's, like that wholething.
(19:53):
Theo von. Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von. Fuck, fuck Theo Von.
Actually, you know, I, I, I missed the days when Theo Von
wasn't so political because I thought, like, he had some like,
really funny things to say. And now I'm just like, dude,
shut up. But here's a real quick clip,
though, of Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson discussing said bombing.
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How many people? Live in a run, by the way, I I
don't know the population at all.
No, I don't know the population.You don't know the population of
the country you seek to topple. Well, it's kind of relevant
because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
You don't know anything about Iran so.
OK, I am not the the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran.
You're a senator who's calling. You're the one.
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Who's the government? The one?
Who plays the country that is the best?
Because his he he has just such this fat neck that it looks like
a a, a rooster. The the bottom of the rooster
just going. So which one, Cruiser or
Carlson? Carlson More.
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Yeah, yeah, his his head blends directly into his shoulders.
There's no neck there. He is just.
Fuck it, I hate him. And you know what?
Watching that clip, I hate Ted Cruz.
I hate Tucker Carlson. But Tucker Carlson, I'm just
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like, yeah, fuck yeah. Go after Ted.
Yeah. What is this population that
you're talking about? What?
Oh, so you want to do this? And.
Yeah, Yeah. I think that the, the, the, the,
the thing that comes out of thatfor me and we're going to talk
about a little bit later becausethere, there's been a lot of
division within Mega world that you go, oh, I can kind of get on
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on board with that. And it's a reminder that, OK,
yeah, maybe that, you know, there are people who who hold a
similar position, but like they hold that similar position for a
very different reason. Absolutely.
And so like we're going to get to, we're going to get into that
piece of it, but. Nuances between.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why, why is this?
Why is this matter that we disagree with Tucker even though
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we kind of agree with Tucker, right?
Like, I think that's a really important distinction to make.
So we're going to get to that eventually in the episode here.
But I wanted to play this clip where Trump, you know, he wasn't
particularly happy with what happened between Tucker and and
Cruz. And he he wanted to set them
straight. Really.
Oh, yeah. Carlson.
Criticizing you, saying that you're complicit in the war.
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I I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying.
Let him go get a television network and say it so that
people listen and. Then he just and then he just
walks off. And this is at the G7 in when
they were up in in Canada. So it's, you know.
That's a delicate dance, though,like just talking between you
and I for Trump to say that because Tucker Carlson has a
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huge audience. A gigantic audience.
And Trump, he likes numbers and he likes people that agree with
him. And Tucker, you know, coming
after Cruz like that. Oh, yeah, for sure.
And so Cruz, well, we'll, we'll get, we'll, we'll get, we'll get
into that. Don't worry, don't worry.
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We cover a little bit of that. But last week or two weeks ago
or maybe 3 weeks ago, I don't remember at this point, but we,
we covered a little lady by the name of Candace Owens and she
actually tweeted out here recently in the last couple of
days. Trump is now mocking, mocking
Tucker Carlson for not being on TV complete.
He's completely out of touch andironic given the fact that
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podcasters won from the election.
So, you know, that's another really hard liner MAGA type
who's stepping out of line, so to speak with, with Trump in the
MAGA world saying, Hey, don't forget who got you where you
are. You know what I mean?
Like, and that's a pretty big deal.
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So even Alex Jones has to say hesaid this.
Everybody loves war and thinks it's so cool.
This isn't like Iraq or other places.
This is going to trigger economic depression for sure if
we don't reverse it. So I think this is a big, big
mistake. I'm very, very sad and very,
very upset. And that's Alex Jones who has
carried the water for the America First movement.
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He is like, you know. Crisis actors?
Yeah. Yeah.
Who? Who thinks that the government
is hiring people to put in fake bodies for mass shootings?
But like, he's also like a guy who has been like, oh, yeah,
like, this is the patriot movement.
Like, we are taking the country back and Trump is our guy to do
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it. And here he is stepping outside
of like, the line going all right.
Well, I know that I can't fully say I don't agree with Trump,
but like, I'm really upset aboutthis.
To me, I, I, I, I think it just astounds me that we have
somebody that has this complete and utter control of the
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Republican Party. Everyone bows the knee bends the
knee rather for. For the most part.
And then you have the the Democratic Party, who has a lot
of fodder to go against it and does nothing.
You have Chuck Schumer saying. I've never seen the people so
aroused before. Fuck you, Chuck.
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And you and I have been texting earlier about just the
Democratic Party and what they stand for and how abhorrent it.
Is it is absolutely. And you were talking about Chuck
Schumer just a second ago. And I want to bring us back to
another Chuck real quick. Chuck Kirk, Charlie Kirk.
He got it on the on the on the action, posting a poll on
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Twitter asking his followers if the United States should get
involved in Israel's war againstIran.
With over 90%, 90% of the 5 / 500,000 people who voted on this
on this poll, which is not an insignificant amount of people.
If you think about that in termsof like a holes, a stadium size,
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500,000 people in a stadium all said, 90% of them said no, we
don't want this well. And and that's the thing with
polls is the the most part is trying to get somebody to
actually vote for. It.
Yeah, yeah. And then if you get 500,000
people to vote against it and 90% and it's.
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This is Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's audience.
That's right. But here, here's Trump
discussing. We, we talked a little bit
earlier, just a second ago aboutTucker Carlson and Ted Cruz.
Here's Trump declaring publicly that Tucker called him to kiss
the ring. Tucker's a nice guy.
He called and apologized the other day because he thought he
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said things that were a little bit too strong.
And I appreciated that. And Ted Cruz is a nice guy.
I mean, he's been with me for a long time.
I'd say once the race was over. He's been with me ever since,
right? But very simple.
If they think that it's OK for Iran to have a nuclear weapon,
then they should oppose me. But nobody thinks it.
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And I think like that little last little bit there were you
saying if they think that Iran should have a nuclear weapon,
they should oppose me is a threat that is a full blown
threat. I will primary the fucking shit
out of you next year. Do not step to me.
If you want to lose your audience, come at me 'cause I
will make sure that you lose it.Tucker, Ted, whoever, Joe Rogan,
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whatever Charlie Kirk and and this feels like for me very much
like the Iraq war again, right? Like we've got these two sides
civil war within the parties. And if you are, you know.
And nobody wants to come off as weak.
Yeah, and. It's like, it's like the the war
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on crime, right? Like you, you cannot seem like
you're a softy on crime because you'll never get elected.
No. But to be strong like on the war
on crime means that you're willing to put people in jail
for the rest of their lives for penny crimes or.
You're going to spend trillion, trillions of.
Dollars. Trillions of dollars.
Trillions. Trillions of dollars.
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For for war and bombs and doing things that are they're going to
kill people. And that's.
Going to involve us in wars for years and years to come.
Well, yeah. And I think that's one of the
things that Tucker Carlson and the thread that we're we're
pulling with this one, at least for this episode, is that is
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where we agree. I don't want to.
I don't want to see American soldiers in the Middle East
dying for the next 20 years likeI did from the time I graduated
high school up until a couple ofyears ago.
One you also don't want to have.I'm not, I'm not, I'm speaking
from a very like military focused perspective, but I'm,
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but I guess what I also mean is like, I don't want to see
civilians die in an unnecessary war.
I don't want to see absolutely all of the bad things that we've
seen in Iraq and Afghanistan happen and the.
All the Middle East. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like Syria? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. And it's when you involve
yourself in those kind of campaigns, then tons of money
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gets brought in, there's unrest,and then you have a pull out
that we had this exit strategy and it was disastrous.
And as soon as the United Statesexited?
Afghanistan. Afghanistan.
The Taliban took over within, what, a week?
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It it not, I think it was even less than that.
But yeah, you're, you're not wrong.
Like it's you're, you're, you'reopening a vacation.
Trillions of dollars, yeah. Yeah, all of it for nothing, for
the for the Taliban to just takecontrol of the territory.
Again. Ever again, you did nothing.
You did nothing. Yeah.
So in this civil war that's happening within the right, I
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want to highlight a another cliphere when you're being praised
by a man the International Criminal Court has called a war
criminal who's being charged with allegedly responsible for
who's been charged with being allegedly responsible for a war
crimes of starvation as a methodof warfare and intentionally
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directing an attack against the civilian population and the
crimes against humanity of murder, persecution and other
inhumane acts from October 8th, 2023 until at least at least May
20th, 2024. You might be on the wrong side
of history. Congratulations, President
Trump, your bold decision to target Iran's nuclear facilities
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with the awesome and righteous might of the United States will
change history in Operation Rising Line.
Israel has done truly amazing things, but in tonight's action
against Iran's nuclear facilities, America has been
truly unsurpassed. It has done what no other
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country on earth could do. History will record that
President Trump acted to deny the world's most dangerous
regime the world's most dangerous weapons.
His leadership today has createda pivot of history that can help
lead the Middle East and beyond.To a future of possibility.
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God damn it. I pay Benjamin Netanyahu because
you know what? He's a survivalist, but he is
basically like a Vladimir Putin.But.
He is just playing the fiddle and he is putting the US in
these positions that serve his policies for his Conservative
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government to be able to keep him from going to jail.
A fascist who wants a fascist government to fight for his
fascist war. And saying, like you, if you
don't do this, you're anti-Semitic.
Yep, Yep. And that's where we're going to
leave that. And, and for good reason.
There are lots of of of sensitivities around it, but but
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let's also call a spade a spade.They're using the United States
and our bunker Buster bombs to play out their their their
ambitions to have Iran not have a nuclear weapon while they have
a cache of them. Well, and I, I think again, what
you're saying is that clearly there's been a lot of
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anti-Semitic attitudes. Yes, 100%.
And so Israel is a small fish ina big pond.
Yeah, for sure. But they have a lot of power and
they have a lot of support within the United States.
But we are going into a point right now where Israel is being
able to really, really flex their muscle and has the support
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of the United States to be able to do what they want to do.
That's a really good way of putting it.
That's a really, really good wayof putting it.
And I think I I still stand by the statement, though, that if
you are getting a pat on the back from someone that the
international courts are saying is a war criminal, maybe you're
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on the wrong side. Here's Sean Hannity setting the
stage in opposition to the isolationist part of MAGA in a
monologue earlier this week. I addressed the ayatollahs.
I addressed the supreme leader. I addressed the people of Iran
directly. And I'll say the same thing
again tonight. When President Trump says
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something, you better pay very close attention.
He means what he says. He will always put America and
Americans interests first. That is defined as the Trump
doctrine. And now Iran is learning all of
this tonight the hard way. Joining us now from the CENTER.
Fuck him, because the Trump Doctrine is what's going to give
me more. Money, right?
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So like the Trump doctrine apparently, if you remember was
that he's the anti war president.
So that is really, you know, really sticking in a lot of the
isolationists like Tucker Carlson and his crawl for sure.
(34:37):
When he was talking to Ted Cruz,like you guys said, you weren't
going to get us into these forever wars and here we are
bombing the shit out of Iran. We're going to skip this next
clip that I had set up about Mark Levin talking about peace
through elimination only becauseMark Levin is a insufferable
twat to listen to. I hate this motherfuckers.
I'll show you the clip offline. It's he is such an annoying
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prick. I.
What's so? What's so annoying about his
voice? His voice is terrible.
I fucking hate it. I'm not going, I don't want to,
I'm not going to force you to itto listen to it.
But listening to Sean Hannity gave me 2002 vibes like, Oh yes,
weapons of mass destruction, like George Bush is just just
looking out for the American people and what the American
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people need. And this is what the American
people want. They want, they want a
retaliation for something. It's a little different this
time, obviously, right? Because you know, there wasn't a
direct terrorist attack on the United States.
But still giving those vibes. It's still giving, you know what
I mean? It's still giving Queen.
Let's take a real quick break. When we return, we're going to
(35:42):
talk about the escalation a little bit more, and then we're
going to round out the show witha flurry of a fucking Trump
being a piece of shit. We're back, yes.
(36:10):
Dude, we played so much Dave Matthews in between the two sets
here. I I feel refreshed, if I'm being
honest, really. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but
anyway, some of the dollars bitch all the way up.
So I'm, I'll be reading in part from an article in Mediaite from
Cody Hall. And he goes on to say, quote the
(36:33):
escalating conflict between Israel and Iran and President
Trump's role in it has driven a wedge in the MAGA coalition that
just months ago seemed united for the long haul.
As ringmaster of the MAGA circus, Trump finds himself
juggling chainsaws as the coalition he built by force
begins to crack down the middle.Trump, of course, launched his
(36:55):
2016 campaign with an assault onGeorge W Bush's war in Iraq, a
war that the right wing media cheered on uniformly.
After slaughtering that sacred cow, he developed a base of
voters who saw him as the anti war candidate regardless of how
accurate that belief was, or at the very least averse to foreign
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entanglements. That base of support however, is
now pitched in opposition with an equally vocal group of boomer
neocons who backed the Iraq war vociferously, yet have gone all
full MAGA on their quest for an audience.
Those two factions are now at war over Israel's strike on Iran
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and fighting that followed. And suddenly the commander in
chief finds himself with the distraction of having to referee
a shouting match about interventionalism and
isolationism among his fiercest allies.
For nearly a decade now, Donald Trump has could lock, could
count on, unlocks up loyalty from mega media industrial
complex. But now the gloves are off.
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Firebrands who once covered in coward in fear are defying Trump
or speaking out explicitly against his apparent March
towards war. Tucker Carlson is attacking his
old colleague Sean Hannity, and the likes of Joe Rogan are
jumping in to echo the frustration with Trump's
approach. You'll recall that Trump has
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that Rogan, rather, has become amouthpiece for the right wing.
He's platformed extremists and Trump sycophants on his show
before, during and after the election.
And he has said on one of the more recent podcast episodes
that he put out. I think the whole MAGA thing
right now is very divided, particularly because one of
these the things that they votedfor was no war.
(38:44):
Well, now it seems like we're ina war and it's quick.
We're six months in and we're and it's already popped off.
And Joe Rogan, whether or not you hate him or like him, has a
like nice, not like a 500,000 Charlie Kirk audience, but
millions of young men listen to him and he literally turned the
(39:06):
election on its head by himself.I mean, I think Rogan is
basically the new Howard Stern, right?
Yeah, I had to agree with that. And so with the things I
struggle with, Rogan is that he thinks that he is way smarter
than everybody else and. For sure.
(39:28):
And he will spout off this stuffwithout really, really being
able to follow up with it. And it's really, really super
annoying that you just. You know, I think for me when
you when you say that like he soI remember, I don't know if
we've talked about this one around on the show, but like he
(39:49):
used to surround himself with guests who could teach him
something. And now it is just like the same
circuit of like comedians and like male chauvinist, like
manosphere types who who are on the show or like the conspiracy
theorists like the Alex Jones ofthe world or I forget the one
guy's name, but he's got a Netflix special about like
(40:12):
ancient aliens and like ancient architecture and about how.
You know, he like he doesn't think the Egyptians built the
pyramids and it was aliens and like giants and all this other
stuff. And it's like it's, it's we're
no longer talking about like, what is space travel look like
in 15 years? How do you accelerate like human
(40:32):
development? Like we're not talking about
things like that. Like he started the podcast with
or became more mainstream with the podcast about Now we're
talking about, you know, the same dumb bullshit over and over
and over again with regards to his flirtation with the extreme
right. Absolutely.
And I, I think they're extreme right flirtatious because then
(40:58):
he had Bernie Sanders on and. Just a couple days ago.
And he was agreeing with a lot of the things that Bernie
Sanders was saying. So it's, I, I think it has to go
back to the blowback from what Donald Trump has been doing,
especially when it comes to, I mean, there's been a lot of
(41:18):
really, really detrimental aspects of the presidency.
But the immigration aspect, no, for sure has, has been awful.
Doge has been a huge flashpoint.And now when it comes to the
Iran bombing, without going through Congress and just.
(41:43):
Unilaterally doing whatever he wants to do and.
And getting support. Yeah, yeah.
And you know, I mean support from like the warhawks and the
neocons. But like this new again, I, I
hate to bring it back to what Tucker Carlson said earlier, but
like there is that threat of like anti war leftists like
(42:05):
ourselves and isolationist rightists who would, who would
rather us, you know, shut the borders down and make sure that
anyone who doesn't put belong here leaves and we don't get
involved in any wars and we pollute the fuck out of the
environment. Like there's just so many
things, so many differences thatcome out of that one similarity
(42:31):
that it bugs me to no end when Isee people who are on the left
who are like posting things on blue sky about like we'll see
even Tucker's on our side. No, he's not.
He's really, really fucking not.But the only reason he's saying
that is because he doesn't want the people from those countries
coming to the United States. You ain't wrong there.
(42:54):
You ain't wrong there. He doesn't want to spend money
internationally when it comes towars, and he doesn't want people
that are going to be displaced from those wars coming to the
United States. Sergio, you're absolutely right
about that, and we're going to actually revisit that concept
here towards the end of the episode.
So just hold on to that thought because you're you're, you're
(43:14):
you're right on. You're right on track there.
But I'm going to continue the conversation about this civil
war that's happening and more from The Daily Beast.
Steve Bannon, who is a. Piece of shit Steve Bannon.
Steve Bannon is such a. Horrible human being, horrible
human being. But he escalated his world on
Fox News during the week when hecalls for the Department of
(43:36):
Justice to investigate whether the network is, quote,
cheerleading the United States onto war with Iran on behalf of
a foreign government. Again, it's this anti-Semitism
meets like realistic understanding of like what the
world looks like. Like, OK, we really shouldn't be
getting involved here. But like you're blaming the Jews
for it. Like it's like.
(43:59):
He likes that. He loves to play that angle.
As President Trump's most ardentsupporters were rocked by
disagreements about whether the United States should join is
Israel's attack against Iran's nuclear program, Bannon accused
the network of not being, quote,true MAGA.
The president invited Bannon to the White House for a lunch on
Thursday. This is before we drop bombs, by
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the way, in order to signal to the isolationist wing of his
base, which includes the Tucker Carlson of the world, the
Marjorie Taylor Greens of the world, blah blah blah, that he
was taking their concerns seriously.
Their meeting had very little impact on his decision making,
though. Just a day later, he fucking
dropped those bunker Buster bombs, which is an incredible
(44:42):
alliteration. Bunker Buster bombs Say that
three times fast. Say it three times fast.
Bunker Buster bombs. Bunker Buster bomb.
Can't, you can't do it. It's impossible.
It's an impossible, it's an impossible thing to do.
So, yeah. So Bannon calls for, is calling
for the Department of Justice toopen a FARA investigation.
And if you're not familiar with the FARA investigation, it means
(45:04):
Foreign Agents Registration Act.It requires individuals that do
political and do political advocacy work on behalf of
foreign governments, companies and other organizations to
register with the Department of Justice.
Quote from this is from Bannon quote, people are on the right
are now confronting an unpleasant reality.
A great unmasking the Murdoch's do not put America first.
(45:27):
There needs to be a thorough farinvestigation into Fox's
relationship with a foreign power.
I think they need to see if theyrepresent a foreign government
as an agent, if they go back andcheck the cell phones, see the
data, check the emails and and back and forth what they are
pushing on American people, whatare they pushing on the American
(45:50):
people? Where did this misinformation
come from? He said.
He said he, he and his fellow isolationists agreed with Trump
that Iran shouldn't have nuclearweapons but believe that there
are many paths to get there, which sounds like to me, I don't
know when Obama made an agreement with Iran to reduce
their nuclear production. Sounds like one of those, one of
(46:14):
the many paths. I mean, I don't know.
I'm not, I'm not a nuclear as nuclear ologist, but.
You know, I understand that in college, boy.
I mean, seriously, like, I just,I don't know.
I feel like, I feel like it's, it's, it is one of those
positions that the right is now like, oh, yeah, maybe Obama
(46:36):
could have been right by like, Idon't know.
I mean, I think Hillary Clinton even said something to the
effect of like she when she tookover from John Kerry, as you
know, head of the State Department or what?
Secretary. Of state, sorry, thank you.
When she took over as Secretary of State, that, you know, they
worked really diligently to get Iran to pull off like their
(46:58):
nuclear production. And they did a really good job
of doing it. Not not to say that they did a
perfect job. I, I think it's really hard to
when you have countries that have nuclear aspirations and
then you have other countries like North Korea or you have
Russia that are going to be our China, China.
(47:20):
China. That are going to be more than
willing to support those productions.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. To not have a superpower, which
is the United States. Yeah, I agreed.
I agreed. Bannon also accused Fox and
other Iran warhawks of selling aquote, phony sense of urgency in
(47:43):
upselling their goals from top from toppling Iran's nuclear
program to full scale regime change, which is something that
you're seeing bandied about in the news right now about this
full scale regime change. And you know how the I don't
know what, what, what, what the the leader of Iran, I don't know
what the the name of it is, but you know, they're talking about,
(48:05):
OK, well, how do we get him out now?
And it's like, Jesus Christ, like we've seen this before.
We don't want this. This is where far right wing
elements and the rest of us antiwar folks that we talked about
earlier crossover, but the lefties and other normies who
don't want war because we don't want people to die.
(48:26):
You know what I mean? Like we don't want people dying.
We don't want to see money spent, but like money spent is
the secondary. It's people dying that we don't
want to have happen here. The far right elements that are
anti. That's not true because you know
what? They don't give a shit if it's
not people in the United States,so.
Right but I mean like you and I who are anti war would say well
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we don't want war because we don't people to die their their
whole thought is well we don't want people coming here.
Yeah, but they will kill people over there.
Sure, sure. So that, you know, we, we don't
pitch and complain about it, Sure.
Yeah, no, I, I, I, you know, there, there is, Yeah, it's,
(49:08):
it's, it's it's a very difficultsituation for sure.
But I think that, you know, those of us who are anti war
would see the situation through the lens of I just don't want to
see people dying for no reason. The far right elements that are
anti interventionalist don't want to get involved because
(49:32):
war-torn countries produce a lotof refugees, asylum seekers and
migrants fleeing war. They are absolutely against war,
but not because they see conflict in war as a bad thing,
but because it produces people that they don't want in the
country. Black, black and brown bodies
very specifically Iran did strike back after only after
(49:56):
back channel conversations that allowed for the United States to
pull its soldiers off of that base in Qatar and retreat to
Qatar. Qatar, Qatar, corrupt country
that pays, it pays off. I don't know presidents with jet
planes, but they they retreated to the capital of Doha and it
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was it was more than, it was more symbolic than anything,
right? Like Iran wasn't going to
actually affect anything in thatmoment.
But they couldn't be seen as weak and they didn't want to
encourage any more retaliation from the United States.
So they were like, hey, this is what we're going to do.
Get your guys out of there. We have to make face.
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So if it was, you know, it was more for show than anything
else. The problem is that after that,
after that, Israel set off aboutbombing the fuck out of Iran
even more. And frankly, you know, I feel
foolish when I think about the situation because Israel has
been doing this for a while. They've been signaling that this
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is coming. They've been taking out all of
its neighbors, pelting them withbombs and drone attacks all the
way so that they could kind of, I don't know, attack Iran and do
the thing that they that Benjamin Netanyahu has been
wanting to do for over 20 years now, which is take out Iran's
nuclear capacity. And you know, it, it feels
(51:24):
incredibly coordinated. And it kind of makes you wonder
what's coming next, right? Like, you know, I wanted to add
this as a as a foil to the episode.
And this is according to the AP,you brought this up earlier, but
according to the AP, the missilestrikes will only sit Iran's
nuclear capability back a coupleof months.
(51:45):
This is in stark contrast to what we've been we opened the
segment with, right? Like according to Trump's own
Intel department, which is what you were talking about earlier,
these strikes did they were not a total knockout blow like he
would have us believe. Quote AUS to me.
AUS Intelligence Report contradicts statements from
Trump and and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
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about the status of Iran's nuclear facilities, According to
the people, the report found that while the Sunday strikes on
Fordo, Atans and Isfan nuclear sites did significant damage,
the facilities were not totally destroyed.
So we spent a fucking ton of money putting soldiers lives in
danger, right? Risk starting a war in the
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region and could have set off anentire environmental catastrophe
that would have rivaled Chernobyl.
And we did that to do what? Except for signalling something?
I, I don't, I really don't know what we did it for other than to
say like, hey China, Hey Russia,like what are we?
Like, what was the point? I, I think the point was that
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Netanyahu said, hey, we need to do this because this is going to
be an intimate or intimate, it'sgoing to be a strike against us.
And we we need your help to to get get at them.
Yeah. I mean, you know, for me, at
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least when I think about it, like, even with that
consideration, I'm still unclearas to what this exercise in
force was for. But I don't think this is going
away anytime soon. No.
I feel like there's so much morethat we could cover regarding
this, but I'm going to, I need to retreat back to Hootie the
(53:35):
Blowfish. So I'll give my final thoughts
on this and pitch it over to youfor for to close this out,
Sergio. I think many folks, including
myself, who when they saw TuckerCarlson go after Ted Cruz said,
OK, I have something in common with him finally.
That was the kind of moment thathappened.
But as we go through our series that we're going to be doing
(53:56):
with him, we'll eventually find out his anti war stance is more
about his racism more than it isanything.
Trump and the rest of the mago world are scrambling to figure
out the messaging in this moment.
And I wish you mentioned this earlier.
I really wish Democrats would finally fucking find their
message and their voice to call the hypocrisy the cruelty and
(54:20):
hammer home that this has done nothing more than make all of us
more unsafe. Sergio, turn over.
You finish that. Well, I mean it.
This will always end up in a terrible place because you have
such well written words and you say great things.
(54:41):
I'm just like. But I also agree with you that
we are in a space right now where I, I really feel that the
Democrats need to really start focusing on getting a backbone
and being able to do what they need to do to be able to be in
(55:04):
an anti war. It's not anti American to say,
hey, we, we need to not have wars going on in, in the Middle
East, even though there, there'sa lot of sentiments saying like,
hey, we need to bomb the shit out of everybody.
And so I, I really think that weneed to take a step back and
(55:28):
realize what's happened in the past, how many successful war
campaigns we've had and how successful have they all been.
Anyone listening to this podcasthas been alive during the war in
Afghanistan, the war against terror.
(55:49):
I remember you remember and anyone of listening to this
podcast probably remembers when we were going through stages of
red, yellow and green for like threat levels against terrorism
in our own country and the job job done or job finished or
whatever it was like, you know, the the declaration that Obama,
(56:11):
not Obama, maybe you know, Obamahonestly, but that Bush made on
on that aircraft carrier saying that job was done.
It's like we are we've learned nothing in under 20 years.
And it really frustrates me. I don't mean to cut across your
your final thoughts. And I do this a lot.
So I know that I need to shut up, but like, it's just
(56:32):
impossible to think that this country has learned any fucking
thing. It hasn't because we continue to
repeat the same cyclical patterns that we've done in the
past. Yeah.
So we continue to meddle in Middle Eastern affairs.
(56:53):
And we all know that these bombings and these three
different nuclear sites haven't really done anything because.
And they also moved all their nuclear material before then.
Exactly. And So what are we doing right
now? It's, it's all, it's a, it's a
reality TV show. He has done it again.
(57:14):
He has made it so that all of usare on tender hooks and that
we're waiting for the next thingto happen on the neck on like on
the next episode of. Whatever show that you're going
to watch. I mean, he's done it again and
we're, you know, it's really frustrating, but.
And that's the thing. And this, this is my final
(57:37):
thought. Continue to go on No.
Because I keep them cutting across you.
So that's my fault. But we, we.
Continue to go to this aspect ofsociety where this is a reality
TV show where we go, oh, this isgoing to happen, this is going
to happen and stay tuned for thenext episode.
(57:59):
On next week's episode of Mega World, where Donald Trump
confronts, you know, Tucker Carlson, like, yeah, you're
right. You're not wrong anyway.
Cool guys. Yeah, we're we're we're getting
there, folks. Listeners, we want to thank you
for enjoying another episode about the extremes.
Do subscribe and share. It goes a long way.
Reach out to us on Blue Sky at the Extremes pod.
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You can check the show notes anduntil next week.
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