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This is At the Extremes, beloved.
Welcome back to At the Extremes,the podcast where we discuss the
extremes in our society and how we got here.
As always, we're your host. I'm Greg.
And I'm Serge. Sheesh.
And today we're going to be chatting about the week that
was. Before we can tell all that,
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though, Sergio Silver, Lonnie. So I've been pondering and
meditating on this and my silverlining of the week is going to
be tradesmen. I appreciate tradesmen because I
was tasked into replacing an outlet underneath the sink and
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that was just replacing outlet and I screamed the C word so
many times. I have bruises on my elbows from
leaning down. I hit my head probably like 7
times on the edge of the counterin and out.
And I, I took a home improvementclass last year and I was just
like, oh, you know, all you needto do is attach the hot and
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getting the wires to bend into the little hook was infuriating.
And I just was screaming. I was realized because I have an
8 year old that you know what I have to recognize that I'm not
I've never done this before and this is going to be.
So this is the first time of besides in a classroom where
it's all out, you are not worried about shocking yourself.
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Sure, sure, all the power is outit, it turned out fine.
But when you see somebody on anykind of real that does it in two
or three minutes, you know what they're they're worth every cent
that that you can pay them to dothose very, very hard jobs.
And I got mad respect for electricians, HVAC for plumbers,
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carpenters, you name it, I'm I'mall for it.
So you know, and if you need some air conditioning, just
reach out to dynamic cooling andheating.
Well, that's not a plug I was to.
Say not a paid read, no. But hey, oh John, he'll take
care of you and your HVAC needs.Well, let me ask you a follow up
question on the outlet situation.
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So was this like a like a regular three prong?
What are we talking here? We was it a flip?
Just a three prong that the garbage disposal was attached
to, so got it. Basically it the, I don't know
if there was some kind of surge,so I had to flip back the, the
outlets down in, in, in the, in the basement or not the outlet,
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the breaker. And and so when I went to reset
the actual outlet, it was just stuck.
And so it wouldn't, and I didn'twasn't going to poke it with
like a knife or fork or anything.
So this is like, well, you know,I, I was made for this moment.
I took this class. This is the moment I've been
waiting for. Yeah, Stinky Pete taught me
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everything I needed to know and you know, he would not be
disappointed in me. I, you know, I did it, it, it,
it took some time. The house has not burned down.
It's been like 3 days. There's no electrical surges
going on, so. We're we're doing all right.
That's awesome. Yeah.
Well, congratulations. That's a big deal.
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It, it, it is. And I and I wanted to be like a
professional professional. I even wrapped the outlet with
electrical tape. Oh, yeah, around it too.
Yeah, there you go. So All in all, it probably took
me 4 1/2 hours to replace the out with lots of breaks of
cursing and changing two or three shirts because I was
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sweating so much and all the power was out in the kitchen.
And you know what? It was done.
So that's my silver lining, tradesman.
Thank you for what you do. Oh, God Bless America.
Congratulations, that's a big deal.
Good win. I've I've never done electric
work before. That's a big win.
Yeah, it's a big win. Congratulations, man.
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That's a big win. I I've got to actually take care
of the outlet that's down here. I know.
I know a guy. Oh, boy.
Well, I will. I'll give my silver lining real
quick before I move into story for the week.
Last week, I shouted out Disability Pride Month being in
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July. July also double s as Black,
Indigenous and people of Color Mental Health Awareness Month.
So I wanted to shout that out. Yeah.
Yeah. So Mental Health America reports
that Black men are particularly concerned about the stigma of
going into therapy and doing allthat kind of work.
However, in 2016, a musician by the name of Kid Cudi opened up
about his bouts on depression onsocial media and in reaction to
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his vulnerability, the Internet has made it a point to talk
about Black men's mental health by using the hashtag Hashtag You
Goodman. This online movement created a
platform to encourage Black men to collectively talk more about
their mental health. This is where the organization
Therapy for Black Men comes in, and it's set on shattering the
existing stigma within the blackcommunity, but very specifically
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with Black men. And to create a space for us to
be able to feel like we can havethat conversation.
And, you know, it's, it's a, it's a really good thing that
they're doing. And I just wanted to shout that
out because I think that's incredibly important, especially
when we're all kind of feeling maybe a little bit more agitated
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and anxious than we would probably like to feel so.
Like 4 years ago we were a little.
A little less, not much, but a little less, but there's.
There's still some things going on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a, there's never really
seems to to that never really seems to die down too much.
But yeah, in these kind of moments, I just thought that
would be a good thing to shout out.
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There's a good silver lining. But yeah.
So yeah, well, let's go ahead and take a real quick break.
We'll come back, we'll talk about the the douche for the
week. Let's do it.
We're back, Sergio. How about you?
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Just with the the douche canoe. Greggy, thank you so much for
having me back again for the douche canoe.
I'm glad I still am tasked with this, but for this installment,
we're going to be traveling to the wonderful state of Texas.
Tejas. And so for you, let's let's talk
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about Texas a little bit. What do you what do you think
about Texas? You know, I've, I've gone to
Texas a couple times for work. Austin's awesome.
I really enjoy the city of Austin, El Paso.
I know that a lot of people havegot a lot of shit to say about
El Paso, but it is very quickly becoming one of my favorite
cities in the American Southwest.
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I love, like, just the food's incredible.
You're a big. Taco Guy.
Love the tacos Taco. They call them Taco.
It's. It's but it's not the Taco where
Trump or Trump always chickens out.
I love Trumpy tacos. They say, no, I, you know, I
just, I love El Paso. I love the, there is something,
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so I don't know, there's something majestic and and
mysterious about the American Southwest.
And I feel like El Paso being soclose to the border and, you
know, the sunsets just are very different because it's just so
expansive and so wide open. And but yeah, no.
So I I, you know, I think, I think Judy said it once about
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Florida. I love your beaches, but I hate
your politics. I love your people, but I really
fucking hate your politics in Texas.
And I, I would piggyback off of that, I've had fantastic
experiences in Austin visiting afriend that lived out there.
We broke into the University of Texas stadium and got to just
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walk up and see, which isn't saying going into a a college
football stadium. Oh yeah, a big 1A.
Huge one. Yeah, yeah.
I, I think between that and LSU,that holds just an insane amount
of people. Yeah, yeah, Even more than some
NFL stadiums. That wouldn't surprise me to
find out that Texas has a largercollege football stadium than
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most professional teams. Yes and Dallas and Fort Worth.
I visited another friend that lived out there or was visiting.
His dad was living out there fora while and the people were
nice. It was one of the cleanest
cities I've ever gone to. There was not lots of trash, but
I wasn't a big fan of just like it is the most stretched out
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urban sprawl. Just strip mall.
It's just, you know, they say everything is is bigger in Texas
and the douche canoes, you know,follow suit to that.
So many douche canoes. So many douche canoes.
So today we're going to be talking about the Governor of
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Texas, which is do you know who the Governor of Texas is?
Gregory Abbott. So we're going to be talking
about Greg Abbott, who sucks. So Greg Abbott was is proceeds
Rick Perry, who was the governorpreviously.
And Rick Perry sucked a lot too.But some interesting facts.
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So Greg Abbott was paralyzed from the waist down when he was
26 years old, making him and FDRand George Wallace being the
only elected governors ever to be paraplegic.
Oh wow, didn't know that. And I mean, Greg Abbott and
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Wallace suck so. Was was FDR paraplegic or did he
just have polio? I thought that.
I thought his thing was he had polio, which.
No, maybe it was. He was in a wheelchair, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought it was.
But maybe I. Don't know.
And George Wallace, I think, wasshot in Maryland.
Couldn't. Couldn't go.
Couldn't be better. Couldn't happen to like a nicer
guy than George Wallace who was all about a segregation, Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. So yeah, so Greg Abbott is been
the governor. He's going to be now a three
term, he has a three term governor and he's had a lot of
very controversial moments sincehe's been elected.
And so we're going to just kind of touched into some of the kind
of fucked up things that Greg Abbott has done throughout his,
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Yeah, I don't know how you say it, but being a governor of the
state of Texas. And this information comes from
progressivetexas.org. So this is just going to be a
quick rundown of some stuff and then we're going to play some
clips. And then we're going to go to
what why he's been nominated fordouche canoe currently.
OK, so let's start with number one with Greg Abbott.
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Abortion bans. Texas has one of the strictest
abortion bans in the United States, and that is excluding
allowing abortions for women that have been victims of rape
or incest. OK, wait, so if I'm so including
or, or is that excluding rape? And that's just oh, so including
up to like it doesn't matter? Oh, wow.
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OK, cool. Good.
Start so that's that's number one number two, no gun gun
reform. So can Greg, can you think of
some of the shootings that have happened in Texas?
There's been quite a few. Well, yeah, I was going to say
which ones you want to think about here.
So I mean, I can very specifically talk about the one
out in El Paso just because I'vebeen to that to that to that
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area and they still talk about it and the El Paso is.
Where a white supremacist came in and.
Yep, the great replacement theory played a great part in
that one, no? Shot a bunch of Hispanics.
Yep, Yep. And yeah, they still have, like,
you know, El Paso, strong stuff up all over the place.
Like, it's not been forgotten there.
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And that's probably one of the reasons why they have been
voting consistently to get some kind of gun reform.
It turns out when communities are affected by gun violence,
they don't want it. So yeah.
So that's one we have. The Dallas where 6 Dallas police
officers were shot, the Sutherland Springs church where
26 people were shot, Santa Fe High School, 10 people were
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killed. El Paso, the Walmart, which was
26 people, Midland, Odessa, 7 people in Vivaldi.
That didn't happen that long ago.
Which is a elementary middle school where a young man went in
and killed 21 kids and teachers.Yeah.
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And no, no gun reform. And yeah, you know, fuck
background checks. Why do you need that?
Yeah, no notes here, man. I don't know.
Yeah. So I don't know if you remember
too when we're going to play a little video on that because
that's really, I mean, all of them are egregious, sure.
But you remember the winter storm that happened in 2021?
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Is that the one where Ted Cruz went to Cancun instead of?
Yes. God what a fucking piece of
shit. God, you know what?
A blubber fish looking toy. God he is, he is the worst.
But yes, where hundreds of people died and there's still
been no change to the power grid.
Yep, Yep. It isn't that like, isn't this
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like isn't the power grid in Texas like the prime example of
the argument against privatization for of energy
companies? Yes.
OK. I just want to make sure that
I've got that my notes straight there.
Yes. And we, we will see.
I don't know if it's in the clipthat we're going to play later,
but I'll, I'll talk a little bitabout it in a second.
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Attacks on LGBTQ and all, all that is been a big issue.
The COVID response where which thousands, not if not more
people died. Border status, border stunts,
where what We'll talk about Mr. Abbott's view on the border and
what he's done. So that's just a list that's
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they have a top ten. And I could have gone through
more, but we we're we're brief or not brief, but we're short on
time with all the stuff that we have to cover.
So OK, yeah, those are just the ones that that kind of stuck out
to me. Yeah, I, you know, just looking
at the gun, the mass shootings list here, I'm just thinking to
myself, like, good Lord, like 1 is too many.
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And like there's what, four or five up here on the list?
And it's like, boy, oh boy. National ones, and we're not
talking about ones where it's, you know, in lower income
neighborhoods where two or threepeople have been shot and stuff
like that and. Domestic abuse situation
Domestic. Abuse situation so.
Fucking nightmare. OK, I'm sorry.
No, no, you don't have to apologize at all.
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Like this is the stuff that's greatest hearing, you know, us
being able to talk about this stuff.
So I'm only going to really talkabout 3 three things, which
leads us up to, you know, current day and time.
But so the first one we're goingto talk about is the power grid,
which happened in 2001. And there's a video that we will
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play that you will be able to just kind of get a brief
reminder if you didn't hear about this stuff and in current
time. So Texas gave me the opportunity
to succeed. Hey Texas, it's looking like
your governor, Greg Abbott, is going to sweep into a third term
in office next week. The Texas economy under Governor
Greg Abbott. He's focusing on immigration and
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the economy, but there's something these folksy campaign
videos don't mention. Texas getting hit with another
blast of winter weather right now.
Leaving more than 3 million in the state without power.
Trapped in their homes in freezing temperatures, no one
knows when electricity will be restored.
The winter storm in 2021. An entirely preventable, well,
humanitarian crisis that happened on his watch.
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Hundreds of Texans died, some interrible conditions.
She moaned and moaned and I hated my grandson.
Had to. Hear it 'cause it was terrible.
Some companies got very rich offthe crisis and later rewarded
him with big campaign donations.That's what defines Greg Abbott
and how he governs Texas. Despite this, Victory looks all
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but certain and with it a big blow to political
accountability. Sure, the winter storm of 2021
was bad across the United States, but only Texas suffered
the days long blackouts and onlyin Texas did hundreds die.
And yes, the storm was a freak event, but hardly the 1st.
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Perhaps one of the coldest nights Houston has ever had.
We may have more electricity rationing again tomorrow.
Storm so big is difficult to grasp.
Here's what 350 pages of detailed analysis and
recommendations looks like. This was published after the
last big storm and is full of concrete proposals on how to
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avoid yet another catastrophe, like forcing power companies to
weatherproof their equipment andmaking sure they can generate
extra electricity in extreme cold.
Anyway, here's that report beingthrown in the trash, which is
pretty much what Texas politicians did with it.
Neither Abbott nor his predecessor, Rick Perry, made
those recommendations mandatory,and the private companies that
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power Texas were free to invest their profits however they
chose. Regulation.
I love it so much. Let's deregulate it all, baby.
And we will put this in the shownotes, but this is really worth
the 9 minutes to just watch thisvideo on on YouTube from the New
York Times, New York Times always that's fake news.
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But the thing that's really interesting is that how it
highlight in the video that hundreds of people died and
there was recommendations for power companies to weatherproof
their the system so that they wouldn't have to have blackouts
to keep people from having electricity.
Instead, those power companies cut corners and and up the
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charges up to like $9000 a day. And in one calling with
shareholders, one of the energy companies reported a $2.4
billion gain just from the winter storm.
I, I cannot believe, I mean, I can, I, I absolutely can believe
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that that is something that painout of people dying
unnecessarily. For, for, for profits from Greg
Abbott, you know, being the, youknow, representing the people
that he's supposed to serve. And the thing that's really
frustrating as well is when we come about and talk about like
super PACs, that these energy companies are pouring in
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millions and millions of dollarsto Craig Abbott's campaign so
that he can be re elected. Yeah, well, you've got you.
You've got your boy in the in the seat.
You got to keep him there to keep keep giving those $2.4
billion or. Absolutely.
And that's, that's that ain't nothing.
That's not nothing. God fucking hate these people.
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Sorry. It is incredible how much money
is just in when we talk about politics, how much money is just
on the table for different companies and who they support
and who they don't. Support, I wonder how much,
because you know the not to change the subject here, but
we're talking about Texas, how much money was saved by not
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having a better warning system for flooding here recently?
Like I'm, I'm wondering what that's going to look like in the
coming week, days, weeks and, and months of reporting that's
going to come out of that as to how much money was saved by not
having a, a better alert system.Or that how much it would have
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cost taxpayers to to be able to have these kind of systems in
place. Yeah, yeah.
And I, you know, As for the research comes out and analysis
of the, the flooding that happened in, in those areas, but
I guess we'll get a better idea of, you know, what could have
been done, what can have been done.
Sure. Yeah, absolutely.
So the other big things that, soGreg Abbott's been really,
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really famous with famous or infamous, I don't know, you
choose, you choose a word with his stance on immigration.
And so some of the things that Greg Abbott has done is called
the Texas National Guard to go down and to stop illegal
immigration coming in. But one of the big things that
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caught nationwide attention was what we did.
We found the right way, the legal way that we were going to
be able to, to move the migrantsthat Biden dropped off into our
neighborhoods in South Texas andmove them to sanctuary cities
like in New York City or Washington, DC, or Chicago,
across the United States. And what was at one time a Texas
problem turned out to be a problem for the entire United
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States of America. And that compelled Americans.
To get up in arms and angry about what Biden Harris had done
and make sure that we elected a president who was going to solve
it. But know this, Sean, we're not
letting up at all. We're we're continuing our
efforts. I.
Want you to know. I hate him.
I mean, so I've been to Sunland Park, NM.
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They've got an incredible water slide out there, by the way.
And it's got, it's the closest casino.
So like, you know, if you're outthere, you want to get a little
bit of little, you want to scratch.
That. Yeah, you got to scratch that
edge a little bit. But so Sunland Park is in New
Mexico, not in Texas. I don't know why they're showing
this on the Sean Hannity show, but you know, it's got nothing
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to do with Texas. It's got everything.
I mean, granted, is right there on the border, but.
Back to just Greg Abbott, it's it's the stunt where it was him,
I think DeSantis, they were human trafficking people to
sanctuary liberal cities saying that this is a liberal problem
for these Democratic cities, that they weren't doing enough
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and so they would have to deal with with migrants.
Didn't they send like a like a, an entire bus or train or plane
full of migrants to Martha's Vineyard?
Like overnight? Like just drop them off.
Venezuelans and stuff like yeah,absolutely.
So that was and that's ha ha you, you stuck into the libs,
right? Piece of shit.
Congratulations, you've proven what point?
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That your malice and cruelty hasno end.
And you know, I, I guess it, it takes me to a point to, of just
thinking of the view that these aren't people, that they're like
cattle, that you're herding cattle into these buses or your,
your planes or whatever and you're just shipping them off
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to. And that to me just, it's, it's
fucking disgusting, just the whole mindset.
And that's what I really struggle with currently with the
right is this view of immigrants, migrants as less
than human beings. And that these are that these
are people that are just coming here to peddle drugs and to
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steal. It's people that are are leaving
horrific situations that are trying to get the American dream
that are entitled to the same kind of pursuits of happiness as
anybody else. Yeah.
And it also helps when you put it in historical context of
saying, oh, you mean the governments that are failing and
falling apart in your home country are down to, I don't
know what the United States did to those countries.
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Yeah, but that's a completely different conversation.
For a different day. That is a huge one too.
It just especially in in Latin America, what the United States
policies did. Yeah, no, for sure.
For sure. So those are the kind of two
historical things that we've talked about and now we're going
to kind of travel into present day.
And so as you know that there was horrific flooding that
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happened down in Texas at the Guadalupe River, where there was
120 plus people that have died due to just massive flooding
from a rainstorm that came through.
Lots of children died from a camp and during a press
conference, Greg Abbott was had these remarks to say, if you
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ask, I'm going to use your words.
Who's to blame? Know this?
That's the word choice of losers.
Every. Football team makes mistakes.
The losing teams are the ones that try to point out who's to
blame. The championship teams are the
ones that say don't worry about it, man, we got this.
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We're going to make sure that wego score again, that we're going
to win this game. The way winners talk is not to
point fingers. They talk about solutions.
What Texas is all about is solutions.
You ask? I'm going to use your words.
Boy oh boy, I how fucking. Big of a fucking Texas thing is
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it to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, to.
Compare a a disaster where 100 plus people have died.
Yeah, and compared to football? You don't get more Texas than
that hook em horns, But I you know, I guess you know, Joe kiss
aside like I I just want to I want to take like AI want to be
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the guy in the room in his like his room where they're like all
right, what's the messaging like?
How do we make sure we get out ahead of this?
How do we make sure the community feels seen and heard?
You know what, Greg? I got AI got a thought.
Let's not go with the football analogy, man, you fucking dildo,
yeah? That's his response.
That's the governor's response to saying this is loser talk.
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Right. And it's like, how much, how
much of it is a reflection of like, Oh, well, you know, we
have to be strong men and like, we're, you know, doing like the
Trump thing here or how much of it is like, he's just really bad
at being the governor. He's just really bad at being a
human being. I think you're right.
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I think that he is just that bad, and that's really
unfortunate because the people of Texas deserve a lot better.
We all deserve a lot better thanpeople like Greg Abbott who
value human life like this, thatview money as more important and
his own political career and standing.
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But he can't do that. So to you Greg Abbott from us
here at the extremes, you are the douche canoe of the week.
But now that the douche canoe isdone and dusted, let's take a
real quick break. When we come back, we're going
to talk about Maga's reaction tothe Epstein file disappearing
act. We are back.
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So Sergio, I have to I have to admit the Epstein files weren't
my first choice for today's episode.
Because we all know that the funny bill that just got passed
is exploding the ICE budget. Yes it is.
More gulags are going to be popping up domestically and
abroad. Children are being abducted in
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the streets. The Marines are still active in
California streets along with the National Guard.
They they are doing their level best to to intimidate and entice
the local population into a fight so that way they can
declare, I don't know, some kindof martial law, I imagine.
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But now ICE is doing the thing that we all knew was going to be
coming. They are breaking into surgical
centers to abduct people while simultaneously assaulting
hospital staff. Mr. Yan was doing his job.
He was outside of this clinic, doing his job with the
landscaping company when he was approached by someone, armed and
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masked. He runs into this clinic asking
for support, asking for help, where Then the armed gentleman
again comes in. And the staff at this point also
begins to feel worried and concerned for their safety.
They start asking this person toidentify himself, to show ID, to
show a badge, to show a warrant,you know, and they also remind
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them you're in private property.We, we don't feel comfortable
with this. You need to leave or you're not
going to present identification.So I'm seeing Mr. yen struggling
to even speak right here, is seeing the fear in his face,
hearing it in his voice. All that just breaks your heart,
right? Realizing that again, this
person is is someone that is working, that is trying, you
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know, working, seeking a better life.
And it's now between a, you know, a armed masked man with
guns and nurses that are trying to figure out what's going on.
It is of these nurses to actually exercise their rights.
In no way are they intervening. They're exercising the right to
know who is in this building with a weapon.
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Right. And I think it's important to
note that that what they did is commendable and it is brave.
What a bunch of fucking cowards.Begin with ice.
Like you can't even go in and doyour job.
You have to be masked and be andbe in unmarked vehicles.
How unpopular do you have to be to be able to do your job?
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Police officers here, who at times are not very popular
within their communities, still do not go around doing their job
hiding their identity and who they are.
If you don't have a warrant and you're going in chasing after
somebody in, that's fucking kidnapping.
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Yeah. I mean, it's it.
We are, you know, I've been listening a lot to his
historical podcasts, very specifically around like Weimar
Germany and how things started to ramp up in Germany, in, in in
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Italy, anywhere where authoritarianism has taken hold.
And this is like this is, I mean, we're, we are there.
This is This is ice is the new SS.
It's disgusting. And Debbie Wasserman Schultz
last night, bless her heart, gave a debrief on what's
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happening down at Alligator Alligator Alcatraz.
They are using cages. These detainees are living in
cages. I the the the pictures that
you've seen don't do it justice.They are essentially packed into
cages, wall to wall. Humans, 32 detainees per cage,
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that is. The only thing inside those
cages are the bunk. They're bunk beds and there are
three tiny toilets that our toilet units.
So they're showing the toilets inside of the soft wall prison
that they're sending these people into.
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They get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where
they poop in the same unit they're they bragged that they
went above standard supposedly and gave them a three foot
privacy wall that stretches the length inside the 32 detainee
cage. A three foot privacy wall.
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So the way that this room looks,it's got it looks like fresh air
being pumped in through through some vent ventilation, but it
looks very much like the C cot images that you saw down in El
Salvador. So we're there and we can't talk
about this because the right is melting down about Jeffrey
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Epstein. And that seems to be the one
thing that they give so much more of a shit about than the I
don't know. The conditions that human beings
are are that have not had due process, that are being just
kidnapped off the streets. Yeah, the crisis that they have
created and we, you know, it's like I I have written here in
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the notes like it's the most Greg Abbott of times.
Like we're like, we're just it'sso frustrating that we are.
We are seeing the the the s s, the Brown shirts, the black
shirts, the Silver shirts that the United States tried to set
up before World War 2 to help the Nazis.
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Actually fucking happening. And again, I'm going to just
piggyback off of that and also say just from, if you kind of
look outside of the United States is just how, how big of
embarrassment is this? We're supposed to be the, this,
the, the country where we welcome immigrants.
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And that's, you know, the, the story of how we became this
great nation. And yet we are resorting to
developing countries in the way that we treat people.
How big of a fucking embarrassment is this and a
disgrace to have people celebrating the treatment of
human beings that are not criminals that have come here
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for various reasons, that have done every, some of them done
everything that they've needed to do to be here, that are just
getting taken off the streets incourthouses and being thrown
into these gulags. Yep, I could not agree with you
more. I think it's really it's really
difficult for me right now. I don't want to echo what you're
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saying and maybe just twist a little bit here.
It if there is anything that these people are, quote, guilty
of doing, it is a, at the very most a civil charge.
It is not something that requires jail time.
It is something that we would go, OK, you're going to the
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courthouse, you're doing the right thing.
Why should we arrest you here? You're doing the right thing
that you're supposed to be doing.
Like you got a speeding ticket 20 years ago?
Right. I just.
I don't know, man. I I fear we're only six months
in and I really I am, I am very worried.
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I I mean I am just continuing topicture Stephen Miller like
twisting his nipples and pouringcandle wax on himself.
Whipping. Himself.
Oh, you're so naughty. You're such a bad boy.
You're such a bad boy 3/3. 1000 a day.
Hitler would have hated this fucking piece of shit.
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But because we need a break fromthe heaviness of it all, let's
talk about the Epstein files. I.
Love that child sex trafficking and sexual abuses is a lighter
note. Oh, this is the world we live
in. This is the world we live in
now, Jesus Christ. This is at the extremes light
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guys. Oh my God, yeah, this is as
light as it gets. Good Lord.
I think actually our episode on on Lucifer is as light as it
gets. Devil, we're from being horses.
That was a good one. So who was Epstein?
Like, let's go ahead and like, do a real quick recap because,
you know, some of the details get lost for folks, including
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myself. So I had to remind myself.
So Epstein hobnobbed with powerful people and received
lenient treatment from the criminal justice system until a
investigation was launched in 2018.
Well, he was an investment guy, right?
He was a big rich guy millionaire that, you know,
that's how he got all these likeconnections.
When he started off, my understanding is he started off
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as a teacher too. You know, I don't know how you
go from being a teacher to having multiple private jets
and. The world's most famous
pedophile. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. In July 2019, Epstein was
arrested on federal charges for recruiting dozens of underage
girls to his New York mansion inPalm Beach and his Palm Beach
estate in 2002 to 2005 to exchange sex acts for money.
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He is a pervert, A pedophile, the worst of the worst, and he
was found dead in a Manhattan jail cell in 2019 and
investigators concluded it was asuicide.
I don't know if you're familiar or not, but the right wing is
losing its fucking mind over this to this past week because
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Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself according to everyone in
Magaworld, including the president, which is created for
I don't know what amounts to being just a remember we were
talking a couple of weeks ago about how like this
administration is doing like thecartoon version of stepping on
Rakes like everywhere they go, like just doing like all the
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time. And this just seems to be
another self-inflicted wound. Is it or is it a distraction?
I think I think two things. I think two things can be true
at the same time. I think you're absolutely right.
It is a distraction from what's happening in Gaza.
I think it's a distraction for what's happening in Ukraine
when. Or Iran.
And Iran, the fact that the president is now sending Patriot
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missiles to Ukraine to continue to fight this proxy war against
Russia. I think the the amount of
brutality that's being carried out at the border, which is what
we started this show with for a very good reason, because that
is the actual fucking issue, notthis dumb shit.
And the big beautiful bill and all the cuts and stuff that's
going to go for the really, really rich people.
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Yeah, Yeah, I, I mean do I thinkand I think, you know, I, I, I,
I am going to jump a little bit ahead here by when I say this,
but I think that there is some some commonality here.
We all want to see very powerfulabusive people face the jail
time and the punishment that is required by society.
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And yet, you know, the files have just disappeared there.
There is no Epstein list, even though we're going to talk about
all the conversations that led up to that moment, so.
But I think that's also really interesting and we can continue
the discussion with it. But when you talk about, and
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hopefully I'm not going too far ahead, but Dan Bongino and Cash
Patel were very adamant at first.
Epstein was, you know, blah. We're going to get to the the
point of this. And they both said, no, he died
by suicide. And there's there.
There's nothing there. So what are the Epstein files?
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The Epstein files are federal government's investigation
papers, their files pertaining to the Epstein prosecution.
US Attorney Pam Bondi released what she called the first phase.
Say it right, It's Pamela Joe Bondi.
Pamela Joe Bondi, they say they say it one time, but she
declassified the Epstein files in February of this past year.
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The materials consisted of flight logs and evidence list
and redacted list of contacts. The list redacted names is
thought to have been the names of the very rich, very powerful
people who had visited the privately owned island of Little
St. James in the United in the US
Virgin Island chain, more commonly known as Epstein
Island. Lee Epstein Island.
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Have you seen like images of no Epstein island?
OK, so. I don't.
I don't want that on my Google search bar, especially my work
computer now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's why I use a VPN and look on the dark net like I do.
No. So there is a video of a guy who
snuck onto Epstein Island and like he had like a GoPro and he
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was videotaping everything. And like, you don't see
anything, but you see like buildings and stuff like
outbuildings. And there's this one building
that's like blue stripes, blue and white stripes.
And like, it looks like kind of like a place where something bad
would be happening. So like, it only adds to like
the like the texture of this conspiracy, right?
Like, oh, it's a very secretive island.
When you try to approach it, youget like private security comes
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out and like, you know, keeps you off of it and blah, blah,
blah. You know, it's private.
It's a private island. So of course, they don't want
you to be there. But like, you know, it adds to
the mystery, like, well, what's happening here?
This guy's a pervert. Like, what's going on?
So Bondi releases this first phase to a bunch of MAGA
influencers. There was an image of a bunch of
these dipshit fucks holding these gigantic binders.
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That said, on the front phase one Epstein and inside like
inside of it, there was nothing new.
Like nothing new was being revealed in these binders and
even the the the maggot influencers like took like to
Twitter saying things like, Oh, no, this is exactly what we knew
before. Nothing new is coming out.
So like, this is like been roiling in the background for a
(41:30):
little bit, like, oh, Pam Bondi's not been exactly like
clear about like the Epstein files.
But more on Bondi and her role in the Epstein fallout later on
in the show. We'll talk about her.
What, what do we know about the relationship between Trump and
Epstein? And this is, I think where the
most important piece of all of this is, is just their
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relationship and why the files disappeared.
Like, because as we're going to find out in a little bit later,
everyone's been talking about these files for years and now
they're gone. And they were There was no
connection to anything. Trump and Epstein shared the
same social circles. In the 1990s, Epstein attended
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parties at Mar a Lago. We've all seen the videos of
them, like whispering each other's ears, looking at girls,
like dancing and like, you know,I want that one or that one or
like, you can imagine that's theconversation that's happening.
At least. The two were photographed at
social settings and multiple times.
And from a 2002 interview from the with the New York Magazine,
Trump called Epstein quote a terrific guy.
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It's even it is even said that he likes beautiful women as much
as I do, and many of them are onthe younger side, Trump said in
the magazine I. Oh that makes me cringe.
Hate him? But but also Trump talked about
like. His fucking own daughter.
Yeah, marrying his own daughter.I mean, birds of a feather, bro.
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Well. The thing that is just really
interesting to me overall is thefact that it really fit the
rights narrative when it came tothe Epstein files, when it came
to the Bill Clinton's and, and the left.
But when it has to include theirheroes on the right that they're
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going to drop it and. Yes, and it's really interesting
to me at least. Like the way the MAGA Wright has
like pitchforks and fire againstPam Bondi, but Trump is
completely like Teflon. Whitewashed from it.
Nothing like no one's making a connection back to him but like.
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How, How dare you do that to thegreat Savior?
Right, like. The great leader.
He has done, he's done a job of surrounding himself with people
who are yes men and who are going to take, you know, the,
the arrows and whatever else coming their way.
When federal agents charged Epstein with sex trafficking of
minors in 2019, Trump then and his first term as president said
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that he was not a fan of Epstein.
But flight logs released as evidence on the trial of Co
conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. I always fuck up her fucking
first name. Ghislaine.
Show that Trump and Trump flew on Epstein's private plane at
least seven times in the 90s between Palm Beach and New York.
Many other high profile people like Bill Gates, Richard
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Dawkins, Slick Willie Clinton, they were all recorded as guests
on Epstein's plane. So, you know, powerful people,
powerful men doing powerful, notpowerful things, but doing, you
know, really fucking fucked up shit.
Was Diddy on those planes? Diddy has his own plane.
It's full of baby oil. There was too much baby oil.
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I imagine that when Puffy went to Epstein's plane carrying
buckets of baby oil, he was like, all right, this is too
much even for me. I can't handle this.
Get the baby oil out of here. But in 2022, Epstein's prime
pimp, Ghislaine Maxwell, who we just mentioned, was sentenced to
20 years in prison for sex trafficking minor girls for
Jeffrey Epstein. And the MAGA world's going.
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All right. Well, then where?
Where's the evidence for this? Who was, who is being trafficked
and to whom and why? Like, if we're going to sentence
her, this guy would rely on somekind of evidence.
So where is the fucking list? And MAGA has gone fucking nuts.
And rightfully so. I think like I genuinely like, I
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want to know like, why are thesepeople still walking the streets
if they are being if they're that perverted and they're
pedophiles, Like these people don't belong in society.
Why are like, we're talking about getting rid of a guy who
fucking works on a landscaping company, but we're not?
OK, I'm going to burst. Well, and let me do be the
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translator for Greg or the interpreter.
It's really, really frustrating that a landscaper is getting
detained by four or five people,but the rich and powerful just
get to walk free with 0 to no consequences.
Thank you, I appreciate that. I feel like that one skit and
camp you. You're my anger translator.
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Obama's anger translator. So why is all this an issue with
for MAGA though? After all, we hear all the time
about this, you know, this administration being the most
transparent administration in American history, The.
Draining the swamp. Right they they this trouble
administration has promised a bombshell, right?
Like Americans, many of whom have spent years wondering over
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the unknowns of the Epstein case, would finally get their
hands on the secret files that explain it all.
What really happened when the accused sex trafficker died in
2019 and he was on his client list, a rumored collection of
famous, powerful people? Well, this week, you know, we
got told it doesn't exist. But in a 2024 interview on the
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Lex Friedman podcast, Donald Trump suggested that he would
release the list if re elected. Quote.
Yeah, I'd be inclined to do it. The Epstein I'd have no problem
with that. It's not me, it's them.
It's not me. I would never been on that
plane, not once, not twice. Trump indulged speculation about
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Epstein after his re election aswell.
In February of this year, the White House hosted a collection,
like I said earlier, of this phase one Epstein file bullshit,
right? Suggesting that there was going
to be more to come. And for me it was like, hey
dummies, they're just telling you what you want to hear so
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that you'll fucking put him backinto power.
How dumb are you? Congratulations you dip shits,
you were never going to get thisinformation.
I just feel like Trump is wearing that.
I'm with stupid shirt. All the time and whenever he
shows up to a rally, it's like arrows are pointing everywhere
off of the shirt, from the back and from the front.
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It's like the Bugs Bunny where it's like a Shiva arm
everywhere. No dis, no disrespect to Shiva.
No, no, no. Shout out to Shiva.
She's the Destroyer, so don't fuck with her.
Yeah, yeah, big time, big time. Speaking of Shiva, how about we?
That's a bad transition. Let's go and take a real quick.
How about I destroy the toilet? And maybe a can of beer.
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And when we come back, we're going to discuss Pan Bondi and
the rest of Maga's fallout. We're back.
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Let's let's start this segment about Pam Bondi with a a real
quick super cut. Can we just?
Refer to her as Pamela Jo because it just makes her sound
a little. Bit Pammy Jo.
Pammy, Jo. Pammy Jo Well, that sounds even
more redneck. Pammy Jo.
All right, let's talk. Let's listen to Pammy Jo.
You may be releasing the list ofJeffrey Epstein's clients.
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Will that really happen? It's sitting on my desk right
now to review. That's been a directive by
President Trump. I'm reviewing that.
I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files.
That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was
done at the directive of the president.
From all what you're going to see hopefully tomorrow is a lot
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of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot, a lot of information.
But it's it's pretty sick back up on that.
In February I did an interview on Fox and it's been getting a
lot of attention because I said I was asked a question about The
Client List and my response was it's sitting on my desk to be
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reviewed, meaning the file alongwith the JFKMLK files as well.
That's what I meant by that alsoto the 10s of thousands of video
they turned out to be child porndownloaded by that disgusting
Jeffrey Epstein child porn is what they were never going to be
released, never going to see thelight of day to him being an
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agent. I have no knowledge about that.
We can get back to you on that and the minute missing from the
video we released the video showing definitively the video
was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it.
Dog what the fuck. Like I'm grabbing the mic and
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and rapping right now the way that I'm holding it.
Yeah, you are. You look like an old school hip
hop artist but we. Have gotten to a stage where
this is all just a fucking reality show where where it's
like the Berry Glazers for all the local people and you know,
we'll shut up. Berry Glazer has one of the
greatest commercials in Baltimore YouTube history.
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Talking about urinating and talking about raining on my leg,
of course. Yes.
But this is insane that we have the Attorney General that is
talking the shit and she doesn'tknow what she's fucking talking
about. It's insane.
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So I want to, I want to, I want to try to crystallize your, your
frustration to a couple of points and and I think.
We you're going to translate me?Yeah, I think, I think last week
we identified like our country is now being ran by conspiracy
theorists. Like in every department of
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government. These people believe or believed
that there was this gigantic conspiracy.
And I'm not saying that I don't think that there is, because I
definitely believe that the veryrich and the very powerful are
always conspiring to do something.
Absolutely. Or they're cucks like Marco
Rubio. I think.
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I think what I would like to just identify the the
frustration is for me, and I hope I can speak for you in this
when you're you're sitting up there in a cabinet meeting
talking about a conspiracy theory, what are you doing as
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the at the. At the highest level of
government, we're talking about Jeffrey Epstein who died a
couple years ago. Instead of discussing the issues
that are happening currently, we're talking about this list of
of top level people, high-ranking people, people of
power and what they did. Instead of focusing, not seeing
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that it's not important, but like delegating that to smaller
courts to be able to deal with that instead of nationwide it.
It is despicable thing, deplorable thing that happened
with Jeffrey Epstein, but it is not within the national interest
to have that be a main talking point right now when we have all
the shit that is going on. Yeah.
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The things that we identified the top of this segment should
be the things that we're talkingabout, not an Epstein
unfortunate, still, still unfortunate, horrific crimes.
Absolutely. And the people who did these
crimes should be going to jail regardless of who they are.
And we all know why they just the list disappeared.
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But maybe that's more conspiratorial thinking on my
end. But I can't help myself to go to
that in that direction because this is the the behavior of a
man who's got literally nothing to hide.
Alex Casa. He allegedly said that he did.
Work for an intelligence agency.So could you resolve whether or
not he did? And also, could you say why
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there was a minute missing? From the jailhouse tape on the
main set, yeah. Sure.
If I could, I just interrupt fora second.
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about foryears.
You're asking? We have Texas, we have this, we
have all of the things. And are people still talking
about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable.
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Do you want to waste the time and do you feel like?
Answering I I don't mind answering.
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at
a time like this where we're having some of the greatest
success and and also tragedy with what happened in Texas
there. Seems like a desecration, but
you go ahead. Sure, sure.
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I want to identify there. He tried to pull a trick, not
even pull a trick, but he tried to give her an help when he was
like, do you even want to waste your time having the
conversation about this? Like, bitch, shut up.
We're not talking about this anymore.
Let's get this out of the fucking news.
I don't want to have to deal with this anymore.
He's a creep. Even though I call him a good
guy, he's one of my best friends.
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I've been on his plane a bunch of fucking times.
He hung out at my Country Club. He's a creep.
We don't want to talk about it. Let's move on because I can't be
embroiled in a situation anymore.
Where I'm associated with this guy.
Right. And the other thing that like
that Pam Bondi mentioned in the first video was she was talking
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about, and I don't know if you know this part of the the
Epstein conspiracy or not, because I didn't know about
this, where they're talking about that he's an agent of the
Mossad, where he was working on behalf of the Jewish government
and hiding pedophiles on his island.
Well, and and so for listeners, the Mossad is basically like the
Israeli version of the CIA, correct?
(55:55):
Yeah, I believe so, yeah. And so they're kind of this
secret organization that does a lot of intelligence and stuff
like that. You know, crazier things have
happened. The CIA infected a bunch of
people in Guatemala with with what, what was it?
Syphilis? And so there's been a lot of
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pretty if I. Were throwing many governments.
From many governments and you know, I, I, I wouldn't put it
past them to hide some pedophiles that were important.
And for a guy who's teaching math to become a guy with
multiple private planes and the largest live in residence in the
in New York City, in Manhattan. And I don't know.
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I don't know. So we're going to real quick
take a watch of a supercut of ofboth Dan Bongino and Cash Patel
from earlier, before the administration, before they
joined the administration and since they've joined the
administration. And just for a heads up, Cash
Patel is the head of the FBI andDan Bongino is the second in
command. Who has Jeffrey Epstein's black
(57:01):
book, black book FBI? But who that is that that I mean
there? That's under direct control of
the director of the FBI. Myself, Bon Gino and others
would participate in hiding information about Epstein's
grotesque activities. Or do you think we would also
participate in not prosecuting people?
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We had evidence to prosecute people on, But the problem is
there's been like 15 years of people coming in and creating
fictions about. Including.
Couches. That doesn't exist.
Where's the videotape of an Ipstein island of XY and Z
committing these frauds? Why haven't you given it to?
Do you really think I wouldn't give that to you if it existed?
That Jeffrey Epstein story is a big deal.
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Please do not let that story go.Keep your eye on this.
There are a lot of people who are knee deep in the Washington
swamp who are not telling you the truth about serious
allegations out there that Epstein may have had video and
audio of people out there doing things they shouldn't have been
doing. And you should be asking
yourself the question, how is itthat all these people, the CIA
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director, the Obama fixer, Bill Clinton, all intersected past
with Jeffrey Epstein? Jeffrey Epstein isn't with us
anymore, and nobody seems to want to talk about it.
You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have
a right to their opinion. But as someone who has worked as
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a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that
prison system, who's been in theMetropolitan Detention Center,
who's been in segregated housing, you know, a suicide
when you see one. And that's what that was.
They killed themselves. You again.
You want me to get I've I've I've seen the whole file.
He killed himself. Bongino says no.
It's, again, it's really funny just seeing that it was Bill
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Clinton and Obama, but you don'thear Trump's name when there's
pictures of Trump and Epstein hanging out together.
And you know what? Not to completely discredit
Bongino, even though he's a piece of shit and I don't like
him, but you're right. We should have knowledge of
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people in power that are hangingout with people that have these
kind of reputations. And you can see it with Diddy,
you can see it with R Kelly. So you have lots of instances of
rich and powerful men and women,probably in some instances that
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are engaged in pretty nefarious behavior.
Yeah, and I think, you know, we're going to we're going to
get in, we're going to dip our toe into this a little bit
later. But it's mostly men who are
operating in these spaces and it's pretty disgusting.
Speaking of a man, though, or what amounts to being a man,
here's Alex Jones and his crocodile tears before he shifts
(59:56):
the. So before he shifts the
conversation, and I want you to know that he spent like 10
minutes explaining why the Trumpadministration is either
complicit or is using this the Epstein files as blackmail
against the deep state to keep them under control.
Again, there's a conspiracy for every conspiracy.
(01:00:20):
And if there is going to be 1 found, it's going to be found
through Alex Jones it. Sure is.
Because because I have integrity.
Yes, you do, Alex Jones. You.
Know, I just really need the Trump ministration to succeed
and to save this country and they're doing so much good and
then for them to do something like this tears my guts out.
(01:00:43):
The fake crime. The fake crying is insane.
You know the left, they're all complicit, they're openly
promoting pedophilia, we know they're pure evil, and they'll
think it's all funny. Oh look, Alex is sad.
Mogas tearing yourself apart. Your globalist masters literally
want you to eat bugs and live ina 5G200 square foot coffin
apartment. Hell yeah.
(01:01:04):
Look at the left, look at them all.
I I love I love the how he went from well, you know, this is a
devastating day for the truthers, the MAGA like truth
folks in the community to the leftists.
I came to his voice. Never mind.
(01:01:24):
But like he's talking about the leftist, the left.
I, you know, I'm Alex Jones and I'm drinking the blood of the
children. They've got gay bombs and frogs.
Gay. Bombs.
But, you know, he goes from being one of those guys who's
talking about like, yeah, the Epstein files are there.
Gee, we need to get this list out.
And we need to make sure that we're exposing the rich and
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powerful for what they are, which is horrific human beings.
And then when it comes down to it, he just blames the left
anyway. Like there is like the cognitive
dissidence in this world of MAGAis incredible to me.
It's you're, you're you're able to go.
Oh, man, he brought it up just asecond ago.
(01:02:08):
Oh, they've got video together. They've been pictured together.
They've been on planes together.They've been to each other's
houses. And you're telling me that he,
Trump is absolved of this? But now, like, if you're Alex
Jones, you're leftist, you know controllers are going to have
you eating bugs. What the fuck are we talking
(01:02:29):
about? It's a Clintons.
It's, I mean, it is the Clintons, but it's also the
Trump's. It's also.
No, in Alex Jones's mind, it's aClintons.
Oh yeah? Well, it's always the Clintons.
Everything starts with the Clintons and ends with the
Clintons. And you know what?
He's not wrong. And half of it.
Bill Clinton's It should have a lot more consequences in his
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life than he's ever received. I'd say a lot of politicians are
overly represented and the not facing consequences department
is what I would say, oh, man. But so I want to give us a
quick, couple quick hits from the rest of the MAGA community,
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Laura Loomer on her Twitter account said quote.
And here's the response from theEpstein follow news.
How come Blondie he talking about Pam Bondi didn't sign her
name to her own men memo about the Epstein files?
She needs to resign. This is going to suppress the
vote in 2026. The American people in MAGA base
will not tolerate being lied to.I hope President Trump fires Pam
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Blondie if she lacks the shame to resign.
I called for her resignation on the day of Binder gate.
Five months later Blondie is still in the administration.
Epstein raped kids on her watch when she was Florida AG.
Is this what this is about? Her horrendous professional
record? Maryland's own balding
conspiracy theorist rate brace baiting monster Tim Poole posted
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on Twitter. Pam Bondi is just keeping 10s of
thousands of child porn videos for herself.
At least we forget that Elon called out Donald Trump on
Twitter a few short weeks ago about being on the fucking list.
I am I, you know, I love a conspiracy theory.
I don't think this is a conspiracy theory.
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I believe this to be truly a conspiracy of very rich, very
powerful men all aligning themselves behind one man and
saying do what you can to get rid of this fucking thing now
that you're here. You think so?
I do. I do because I don't think that
I think that you would be you and I would both be very
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surprised if there is a list of people as to who's on that list.
And whoever visited that island I can't imagine was there for
the weather. I I agree in the sense of there,
there's going to be the clientele and there's going to
be the friends. I also think that just when it
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comes to anything like that, it's really hard to keep a
secret with that many people andthat many employees without
stuff coming out or secret videos coming out.
And so I, I don't have any doubtthat there is a big list of
people that should that have been involved in things that
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they shouldn't been involved in.They should go to jail for a
long period of time. However, I think that this big
conspiracy is is overstated and that there's not these big files
that it's. I want, I think, I think what
this, I think what the the Epstein file conspiracy thing
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kind of points to is all of our desires and I think a lot of the
guys. We have a video of R Kelly
pissing on somebody. Yeah, I mean.
Are you telling me that there's not going to be some kind of
video of Bill Clinton with minors that didn't show up
secretly with somebody that was just like, oh, that's Bill
Clinton? I'm going to fucking get a video
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of this. No, I don't think you're.
I think I, I, I, I accept that in order for there to be a
conspiracy, you have to have a lot of trust and a lot of people
are very untrustworthy. I think that maybe, maybe, maybe
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not. Those videos don't exist.
They do exist, I think. What it?
I don't know, maybe maybe. They've got the idea of a
conspiracy. I think what it lends its itself
to this Epstein thing. I think what it lends itself to,
which is what we're all kind of wrapped up in right now, whether
or not we are explicit or implicit about it, is that we
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want something to happen to bad people.
Like the Q Anon thing being about like, Oh well, you know,
child pedophiles and all this other stuff.
And then it like naturally lend itself to like the Epstein files
and things like that. And it's like, OK, you know
what? Like we all want bad people to
go to jail. We all want bad people to face
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consequences. And when there's something so
explicitly happening that has been proven that it happened
just just laying Maxwell went toprison for 20 years.
If there's no record there, thenwhy is she in prison?
Who who was who was she pimping out for then?
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I mean like, I know it sounds crazy but like.
I'm not crazy. You're crazy.
I mean, but like, you know, I'm not sitting here saying that
it's the deep state and the Jewswere after her doing it.
I'm saying it's incredibly powerful people who are, who
are, who run, you know, Wall Street or whatever, who can, who
can literally or like you're Donald Trump and you can
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literally shoot someone on 5th Ave. and not lose any support.
But my, my whole thought is, is just like after watching like
House of Cards or whatever is that everybody is just so
Machiavellian in their own interest.
And so with if you have this kind of really secretive high
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class, there's always going to be somebody that's going to be
there to try to screw somebody else over.
I agree. I agree with that.
And I think like prima facie like I'm not like I'm not like
tinfoil having this. I, I, I just think that there
is, there's. Something.
There's been, this has been in the atmosphere for 15 years and
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then Donald Trump is done hearing about it.
So now it's no longer a story. And I think that what that tells
me at least, and and maybe we can, you know, we can end on
this and then I'll get the finalthoughts and we can wrap the
show up. I think what that lends itself
to is that like, if the president isn't happy or the
administration isn't happy aboutthe story being in the
atmosphere, they're just going to fucking kill it.
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And I think that what a lot of people in MAGA are really upset
about, which is I think what like probably like a lot of
common sense folks are also upset about, is, well, you
talked about this for 15 years. You fucking ran on this.
And now it's gone away because you don't want it to, because
you're done with it. It served its purpose.
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It got you elected, and now you're willing to just throw it
in the trash. And I think what MAGA is
starting to understand is he's an opportunistic piece of shit
who's going to do whatever it takes in order to remain in
power, gain the power, and then silence people who would doubt
him. And I think that that to me is
part of why this is frustrating,not just for Maggot World, but
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for the rest of us who do want to see like people in power be
brought to the carpet and say like, hey, you've been a bad
boy, time to go to prison. But I'll, I'll give you my final
thoughts real quick and then we can wrap up the show.
MAGA is now being asked to not believe their eyes.
They're being gas lit and they're not happy.
Maybe they figured out what I just talked about.
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Like, they can't trust this guy or will they do a man in black
and like forget that this ever happened and move on.
The deputy director Dan Bongino is saying he might resign now.
Like this came out last night. And because of the way that Pam
Bondi handled the Epstein files,this story has ripped the doors
off of the MAGA conspiracy nut world, which you can tell is
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basically all of them. We all want to know what's going
on with this story because there's still a shred of dignity
in the far right. And those of us who want to see
the powerful hell to account fall on both sides of the aisle
of this, they just think that they want people who abuse
people to be put in prison. It's just too bad that they
don't understand the irony in this situation.
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MAGA world. But all of this seems like a
House of mirrors at the circus. But for those women who survived
the abuse carried out against them by Epstein and his clients,
this is not a clown car of fools, but a clown car of
dangerously powerful men. And in this very specific case,
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maybe the President of the United States.
We have seen over and over againwomen being dismissed when they
come out against their abusers. And there was a woman who
committed suicide because she came out against Epstein and
Prince Andrew. Was it And, and over in the UK
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for being sexually being sex trafficked.
And these men who participate inthese things are using the
system that they built to silence these women.
And again, I pointed to it earlier, Trump is going to
silence stories that don't benefit him.
And I think that that is the real danger.
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Sergio to you. I don't thought I'm just going
to piggyback on what you say. I think in the end, instead of
focusing really on the abusers, is focusing on the victims of
this stuff. Because we've talked about
immigration, we've talked about the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.
And these are the people that are impacted the most out of all
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the things and the policies thatare going on.
And the women here are can be treated like crap by society.
They're going to be told that their story isn't true, that
they were lying when they aren't.
And we will continue to drag their names through the mud and
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to make this a story without really giving kind of the
quality respect that they deserve for being able to come
out and to be able to share their story of their experience
with this horrible tragedy. We need to hold our highest
officials to the biggest standards.
And Donald Trump right now is clearly not leading us in that
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direction where we have video evidence of him talking with
Jeffrey Epstein, being friends with him, and also with all the
other comments that he's had when it comes to his view of
women. You've never heard another
sitting American president talking about grabbing a woman
by the pussy because they like it.
It is. We are in just the Twilight zone
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currently when it comes to whereour politics are.
We have people that are way moreinterested in likes and
attention through social media than they are through being able
to do policy and do things that are going to benefit the people
here of the United States. And so my final thoughts are, is
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that we really, really need to all be kind of on the same page
of being able to find out that they don't really care about us.
And we need to really vote for people.
And I'm saying this on the rightand the left.
We need people that are going tobe there, that aren't in the
pockets of corporations that aregoing to stand for what's going
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to be best for you and your community.
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