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May 16, 2025 71 mins

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In this conversation, Dr. Steve Call discusses the evolution of air support in military operations, focusing on the role of Tactical Air Controllers (TACPs) and the historical context of air-ground integration. He highlights lessons learned from World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War, emphasizing the importance of close air support (CAS) in modern warfare. Dr. Call also addresses current challenges facing CAS and the future of air support in the military, advocating for a deeper understanding of operational concepts versus strategies.

takeaways

  • ALO tours were seen as a dark hole in careers.
  • American military integrates air support tightly with ground units.
  • The history of air-ground coordination is rich and complex.
  • Lessons from WWII shaped modern air support strategies.
  • Post-WWII, the Air Force focused on strategic bombing over CAS.
  • Korean War required a reinvention of CAS tactics.
  • Vietnam War established NCOs as key players in air support.
  • Desert Storm showcased the effectiveness of CAS.
  • Post-9/11 operations highlighted the need for coordination.
  • Current trends threaten the effectiveness of CAS.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction to Steve Call

04:43
Steve's Military Background and Education

08:57
The Evolution of Tactical Air Control

12:48
The Importance of Air-Ground Integration

16:48
Historical Context of Close Air Support

20:57
The Dilemma of Air and Ground Forces

24:46
Post-War Air Power Perspectives

28:56
The Reinvention of Close Air Support

32:48
The Fighter Mafia and Its Impact

36:53
Lessons from History and Future Implications

37:41
The Impact of Desert Storm on Air Power

41:35
The Role of Close Air Support in Modern Warfare

53:49
Challenges Facing Close Air Support Today

56:47
The Future of Air Force Close Air Support

01:03:55
The A-10 vs. F-35 Debate

01:06:48
Final Thoughts on Close Air Support Strategy

Dr. Steve Calls Books:

Danger Close: Tactical Air Controllers in Afghanistan and Iraq

Selling Air Power: Military Aviation and American Popular Culture after World War II

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