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August 21, 2025 16 mins

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In this episode, we tackle a deceptively simple question: if someone is choking, do you pray or perform the Heimlich? The conversation leads to deeper issues—parents who choose faith over medicine, the legal limits of religious exemptions, and the impact of homeschooling rooted in ideology rather than evidence.


We share personal stories, examine research on the effectiveness of prayer, and discuss how secular humanism offers a better framework for decisions that affect lives. A challenging but vital discussion on where belief ends and responsibility begins. 

💬 Viewer Question
Have you ever witnessed someone choose prayer over action in a crisis? How did it turn out?

📑 Relevant Topics / Chapter Headings

The Heimlich vs. Prayer Dilemma

When Faith Delays Medical Care

Legal Protections and Limits for Religious-Based Decisions

Homeschooling and the Problem of Biased Curricula

The Role of Secular Humanism in Child Welfare

Thanking God for the Trivial vs. the Critical

Pastors as Unqualified Counselors

📚 Suggested Reading List

The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins — https://amzn.to/4kdgPng
A thorough examination of belief, evidence, and the consequences of religious thinking on personal and societal decisions.

Faith vs. Fact: Why Science and Religion Are Incompatible by Jerry A. Coyne — https://amzn.to/3IUdXib
Explores why evidence-based reasoning outperforms faith when lives are on the line.

Breaking the Spell by Daniel C. Dennett — https://amzn.to/45JWYZf
Investigates the nature of religious belief and its impact on decision-making in everyday and critical situations.

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