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Art.
It defines something and it showcases
something to you.
There's all kinds of different variations
of art, and even in the automotive world,
art is part of it.
Yeah, we all know that everything goes
through an artistic background.
All cars start out as an artistic's
rendition of what they think the world
would like.
Being a designer of the past myself, I know
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about the artistic abilities and what goes
into creating these works of art for the
road, of a thought and the major process
that goes into creating some of the most
beautiful vehicles on the road.
But what really constitutes an automobile
as a work of art?
Well, anytime you go to an art gallery or
museum, you don't see a lot of them.
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There are a few out there in the world that
are registered artistic vehicles.
Then again, there's also ones out there
that you wouldn't even think would fall
into an artistic car, and today AutoLooks is
going to take a look at the most famous art
cars out there.
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So, like I said in the beginning, art cars.
What defines an automobile as an artistic
vehicle?
We can all think of great artists around
the world.
Hell, one of the greatest artists known of
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to everyone, has a very famous brother who
became a famous automotive artist and has
created some of the greatest artworks of
the automotive world.
Now if you don't know who we're talking
about, well, you've kind of missed some of
the previous podcasts.
Go back and listen to them, because there's
some great bits of information in there.
But there's one automotive genius who made
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beautiful, beautiful cars, and one of their
vehicles is actually registered as a piece
of art.
We're talking about the Bugatti Type 57
Atlantique Bugatti, if you did not know
this, had a very famous brother, Ettore
Bugatti.
His brother was Rembrandt.
Yes, the famous painter Rembrandt is
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related to Bugatti.
Kind of funny how the artistic and
engineering side of their background came
out with both boys.
Think about it.
Rembrandt made some amazing artwork they're
all over the world and command top dollar
and his brother created some of the
greatest works of art in automotive culture.
When you think of an artistic vehicle and
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you picture it in your mind, there's two
companies that always come to mind.
First, Ferrari, Bugatti and them being the
only two car companies out there that
actually have vehicles registered as
artistic ventures.
Yeah, you can't take it.
So the new De Tomaso came out.
It's kind of funny that beautifully crafted
P900 from De Tomaso trying to bring their
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life back from ideal ventures, and then all
of a sudden they get hit with a lawsuit
because the lines of their vehicle are very
similar to that of one of the most
well-known and well-protected automotive
designs.
It is a protected piece of art as well,
considering the fact that it's also
registered, and in the Guggenheim we're
talking about the 1957 Ferrari 250
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Testa Rossa race car.
Yes, the lines of that were very similar to
the new De Tomaso P900.
Now Scuderia Glickenhaus decided to go after
them as well, because those lines took from
his original designs as well, which he
utilized Ferrari and Pininfarina design
aspects from and paid them to utilize those
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designs.
So he wasn't too happy that this brand new
De Tomaso is utilizing their artistic
background.
One of the most beautiful cars ever created.
That's the thing Everybody always thinks.
Artistic vehicles are only these amazing
supercars and hypercars.
No, not really.
What really defines an art car?
It's an image which stands the test of time.
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Want a perfect example of an artistic
rendition of an automobile, the Volkswagen
Beetle.
It could be completely distinguished by
just the shadow of its outline.
That's it.
You have the shadow, seriously, the
silhouette, similar to the artistic work I
did with my auto art stuff silhouette art,
creating a silhouette of an original
Volkswagen Beetle.
Most people will understand what it is.
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You may think it's a simple design, but its
inherent artistic background signifies that
this thing is part of pop culture and what
we signify as artwork.
With that, the definition of an art car
starts to blossom.
I don't know if you remember a few years
ago when Nissan was trying to create their
new image, when they re-released the Z
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back in the early 2000s, they had their own
design aspect where literally the Japanese
artwork they tried to use the least amount
of lines to create a perfect silhouette of
their vehicles so that anybody can
distinguish their products from anyone else.
They used an art form to build a brand new
design language into their vehicles and
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that's what a lot of automobile companies
use.
They have their own specific designs, like
kinetic designs, hard edge designs, forward
thinking designs.
They all have weird names for them.
Remember Ford with those really big, boring
steel plates on the front of those old Ford
Fusions and Ford Edges?
Yeah, that was a design language they were
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looking at.
They used it to signify their vehicles.
Mazda uses it in all of their vehicles.
They have a specific design language and
you have to remember design work for
automobiles is the exact same thing as
artwork, because both are drawn out.
Sure, one is going into creating something
that's of existence in this world and the
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other one as an image of something that
does exist in this world or something that
exists only in your mind.
But that also is where concept cars come
from, and these beauties, these artistic
beauties, take form as a piece of art
before they're transferred onto another
medium.
Like we said, eventually these pieces of
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art can be registered and trademarked as
pieces of art.
The original Ferrari Daytona and the 250
Testa Rossa are both registered pieces of
art, just like the 57 Atlantique from
Bugatti.
You can't play around with their images
because they're owned by them, similar to
that of their logos are owned by them.
It's a piece of artwork that signifies what
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it is.
So, if that's what really defines the art
car, what really makes an art car?
Is it something that is so amazing, like
the most amazing designs out there,
something that captures your attention
anytime you see it, like the wedge-shaped
design of the original Lamborghini Countach.
The snake head used to create the original
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Dodge Viper, an outside designer, somebody
who didn't work for Chrysler.
They built their own concepts outside and
submitted them back.
They were a paid design company and he used
the head of the actual viper snake to
design that car.
He's also the designer behind the
copperhead and hence the reason why the
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rear end of the copperhead looks like the
back end of the head of a copperhead snake.
They utilize something from the world
around us and added it with their artistic
ability to design anything into these great
automobiles.
You have to think about.
The original Dodge Viper design broke the
mold.
BMW i8, when it came out, started breaking
the mold again.
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Hell, you want to talk about interesting
vehicles that you never think have any
artistic background in them.
How about the Nissan Murano?
When it first came out, it did away with
all standard grills.
It took us from standard boxy designs of
SUVs and created a more car-based,
crossover, utility-looking vehicle.
It was essentially the birth of the CUV.
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It broke molds and changed the way we saw
things.
It brought in a new language to the
automotive world.
We all think the new Ford Mustang Mach-E is
not a Mustang, but it's breaking the mold
and if you go back and listen to our
podcast about why the Ford Mustang Mach-E
exists, then you might understand how it's
breaking the mold.
While utilizing the design emphasis and the
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name from the original artistic background,
which was the Ford Mustang, it created a
pure emphasis on its own design, its power
and its features.
The Mustang isn't just about being a
two-door performance vehicle.
It's about power, it's about freedom and
it's about the ability to have something
that'll turn heads that doesn't cost a
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fortune.
Doesn't that design language flow through
onto the Mustang Mach-E as well?
It does, and they all work together.
You have to remember artistic vehicles,
these amazing perfections of automobile
designs, are not products that are
literally just thrown together at the last
minute of the day just to showcase to your
boss something new for the world around us.
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If you go back and check all of the
original Nissan Maxima designs, they're all
standard, gelatinous vehicles that fit into
the standard sedan marketplace.
It's a mid-sized sedan and it just blends
in.
Sure they added more performance.
Sure, they actually got one into the
original Fast and the Furious movie, which
pushed the Maxima further out.
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But the last design of the Nissan Maxima
was taken from one of the most respected
automotive designs they ever created for a
concept car on a sedan outline.
Its original design from 2014,.
The Nissan Sport Sedan Concept showed us
where Nissan wanted to go in its future.
It wanted to get away from this bland,
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boring look.
You have to remember.
They joined together with Renault in the
early 2000s and their vehicles became more
of these boring, monotonous products, which
is essentially what Renault was famous for
making.
They made standardized-looking products.
They didn't create artistic value into
their vehicles, they just created something
to sell to people because people knew the
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name.
Nissan wanted to break that mold.
They wanted to create something that flowed,
that gave the emphasis of power, that
showed a sport appeal in a sedan platform.
They wanted to give us what the Nissan
Maxima from the original Fast and Furious
movie was a powerful four-door sedan.
And they wanted to do that with one of the
most amazing automotive designs of all time.
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And in 2016, Nissan gave it to us when they
released the brand new Nissan Maxima.
Utilizing lots of key features from the
original sports sedan concept from 2014,
the new Nissan Maxima became one of the
best designs out there.
The AutoLooks A+ awards ranked it in the
A-plus category one of the few sedans that
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has ever been given an A+ award because
its design broke the mold on everything.
Every part of that vehicle worked with each
other.
They didn't add stuff in, they blended it
all together, and that's what amazing
designs are about.
They're not about last minute modifications.
Oh, we forgot to put the exhaust port at
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the rear.
Uh, just stick it on the bumper.
Oh, we forgot to put the turn signals on.
Uh, just you know, throw it on the edge of
the headlight.
Oh crap, we got to put them centers in the
front.
Well, find a spot you could stick it in and
stick it in there.
No, the artistic value behind these
vehicles makes everything flow together.
It's perfect, it's a supermodel when you
think of it.
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And that's what I always said.
See, the artistic factor of vehicles makes
you look at them and understand where the
designer was going, what they were trying
to prove to the world.
Where they're trying to give you a powerful
vehicle.
Where they're trying to create a fast
vehicle.
Where they're trying to give you a powerful
vehicle.
Where they're trying to create a fast
vehicle.
Where they're trying to create the best
airflow for a vehicle.
Yeah, even sometimes the most bland, boring
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vehicles like the Volkswagen X1.
Super simple design can be considered an
artistic value vehicle because they did
everything they could to bring down the
coefficient of drag, to make it so that
vehicle would go as far as possible on a
drop of fuel.
You might just think that's an engineering,
automotive excellence, a piece of
automotive engineering excellence, but in
all reality, the engineering and all the
technology behind it, added with a design
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that goes with what the end product was
supposed to be, makes it a perfect piece of
automotive culture and it becomes an
artistic vehicle they all supposed to be
makes it a perfect piece of automotive
culture and it becomes an artistic vehicle.
They all have to be made to make sense.
Now, artistic value vehicles are also to
make a statement, and a lot of artistic
vehicles, when you think about them, are
mostly halo products, like the Countach,
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the F40, the Jaguar XJ220, the Bugatti
Veyron.
They all have some sort of artistic factor
to them.
The F40 was a racing car for the streets.
The Countach took wedge design and brought
it to the world.
Well, you want to get something simple.
Like I said, the Volkswagen Beetle, a
vehicle to put Germany on wheels, became
one of the most notable designs of all time.
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But there's also artistic factors that
showcase specific points in history as well,
or specific parts of that vehicle can be
its own history.
Jeep utilizes the original grille 8-slot
grille as their own personal logo now,
because Jeep, literally up until the 90s,
was just Jeep.
There was no logo, but now they use their
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grille, which is standard on all of its
products as its own logo.
But now they use their grill, which is
standard on all of its products, as its own
logo, but as a feature that created an
artistic mental image.
If you put that, eight grills with two
circles at either end of it, people look at
it and automatically know, oh Jeep.
The logo and its original design gave it
its artistic presence, the art car.
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But the Jeep wasn't a halo product.
The original Willy's Jeep or Bantam Jeep was
made for a specific purpose.
The Tommaso P900 is a brand new halo
vehicle meant to bring the Tommaso back to
the limelight.
The YangWang U9 supercar that can drive on
three wheels and has one of the lowest
coefficients to drag around gives us a
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beauty of a Halo product to bring you in.
So you purchase their other products.
Halo products can also be used to help save
a company.
The Viper needed to make a statement for
Chrysler to say Chrysler Corporation was
back and Dodge can make performance product.
When they released the Viper, it was meant
to make a statement.
Sure, we have Daytona's, we have the Shadow
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Sport Hell.
We even created the Dodge Spirit and the
Dodge Caravan Turbo Hell.
We've had Shelby versions of even the Omni
and the Dakota, but Dodge is here to show
that it's more powerful than the
competition, and they did that with one of
the best automotive designs in history, the
original Dodge Viper, a design that broke
the mold.
It added features never even thought of on
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vehicles, kind of like the Caravan when it
added dual sliding doors and cup holders to
vehicles around the world.
These are engineering feats, but they also
create something that is implanted in our
brain for its artistic ability.
If you can draw it and automatically know
what it is, it's a piece of art.
It's known of everyone.
These things can be created to fight off
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competition, save a company, make a
statement, boost profits and showcase
specific moments in time.
When you see a 65 Corvette, you think of
the 60s.
A GTO 60s, mustang 60s how about this?
A Renault Alliance, you think of the 80s
and you think of the last crappy vehicle
AMC ever made.
They have timepieces.
If you put a white Ferrari Testarossa next
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to a Lamborghini Countach, you're
automatically going to be drawn to Miami
Vice in the 1980s.
These designs showcase a point in time as
well.
They bring back a memory from specific
times if you were there or you had even
seen it.
69 charger if it's black, you think fast
and furious.
If it's orange, you think duke's a hazard.
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If it's green, that's uh crazy.
Larry saving Mary I can't remember the name
of the movie, but it was with Peter Fonda.
It was pretty good.
So all these things bring back things to
you.
Technological achievements is another great
artistic factor.
The XJ220 tried to showcase to us that you
can go over 200 miles per hour in a
supercar and because of that and because of
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its gelatinous blob image, the XJ220 has
become one of the most notable Jaguars of
all time, not unlike the most beautiful car
in history, the Jaguar E-Type.
Yes, the original E-Type.
Next to the Testarossa, the E-Type from
Jaguar is one of the most known of and
respected designs of all time.
It's one of the biggest artistic value
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vehicles out there.
It's sleek lines, wire rims, hell, even the
headlights being bubbles blend in.
Everything goes perfectly with everything
else, is it?
The only thing on that vehicle that stands
out is its chrome exhaust, because it's not
blended into the design perfectly, but we
all know it's time.
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That was the best they were able to do.
So these cars created an artistic value to
us.
So how can we actually save these designs?
Keep companies from stealing them?
We all know that a lot of small car
companies in China are known for stealing
designs of famous vehicles.
The Land Rover Evoque.
If you think about it, it's not the most
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artistic, valued vehicle in the world, but
when it came out it made a major statement
and everyone wanted it.
Didn't matter if you like Jaguar or not,
everybody thought it was cool.
It implanted itself into our minds and
because of that it's been copied multiple
times in the Chinese marketplace.
People want that image.
Well, that image is a piece of art created
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by its original designers.
Now those artworks can follow you from
company to company.
The Audi TT was designed by the same
designer who made the Chrysler Crossfire.
He had worked at Audi and when he left he
utilized its original design aspects of the
Audi TT and blended them with the Mercedes
SLK platform to create the Chrysler
Crossfire.
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You ever wonder why their image is very
similar, not exactly the same, but similar
their artistic values, the design emphasis
on its silhouette.
To protect these designs we could start
registering some of the most famous
vehicles of all time 64 Mustang, you know,
1938 Volkswagen Beetle, 57 Testarossa, hell,
even an 86 Ferrari Testarossa from Miami
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Vice with its shark fins on the side.
Those are only available on that specific
vehicle.
You never saw them on anything else.
It had its own image.
So if somebody else copied that, you'd be
utilizing the artistic value of another
vehicle that already exists.
So, even though the Guggenheim has
registered both the 57 Atlantic and the 250
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Testarossa as pieces of artwork, which
means nobody could steal their designs
anymore, maybe more of those things need to
happen.
Maybe people need to start realizing that
automobiles are not just a mode of
transportation to convey us from point A to
point B.
No, these products have artistic value
behind them.
If you've seen the original movie Bean the
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movie, you understand the famous American
painting of Whistler's mother.
It's just a picture of his mother.
That's it sitting in a chair.
And if you listen to Mr. Bean talk about
that, well, why did he want to draw her?
She looks like an old lady with a stick up
her butt, but he loved his mother.
Think about it.
There's artistic value.
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He literally just did a painting of his
mother sitting in a chair, but people want
to spend tons of money to get it.
Well, with the aftermarket industry blowing
up for supercars now and a lot of these
very rare vehicles commanding high dollar
values, should we not be thinking that it's
just because of the rarity that's causing
this, but maybe it's the design, the
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artistic value of those vehicles.
If there's only one official Whistler's
mother picture out there, sure its rarity
can command high value.
But when you look at other forms of art,
like the Campbell soup, it's literally the
most simplest thing you could think of.
It's a can of soup, but we spend tons of
money and we all want to go and see that
piece of art.
Well, maybe if people got over the fact
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that automobiles are a mode of conveyance
and started seeing them as pieces of art,
all the time and effort that goes into
designing them, placing things properly,
and start understanding some of these
artistic vehicles out there and showcasing
their significance.
The original Buick Y-Job concept hidden
headlights or pop-up headlights people call
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the Mustang gave birth to the pony car.
The GTO gave birth to the muscle car.
MG helped pioneer British roadsters in
North America.
They have specific importance to them.
It doesn't matter if they're the most
beautiful vehicle in the world.
There has to be some specific importance
behind it, their artistic value, an art
culture.
If you can have art culture following
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people around who make garbage art and you
think it's beautiful, then how come there
are not people following around some of
these most famous designers.
I'll give you a name of one Mr. Heinrich
Fisker.
Yes, the guy who created both Fisker
automotive.
That failed, but he created some of the
best designs Pininfarina, some amazing designs.
Bizzarini they've created their own design
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house, but they've created these
masterpieces of art.
Pininfarina is one of the most amazing
masterpiece automotive makers out there and
even though they're owned by Mahindra now,
still doesn't stop them from creating some
of the best looking vehicles on the planet.
You have to remember we need artistic value
in these automobiles.
Without the artistic value behind them, all
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vehicles would look exactly the same.
And seriously, do you want to drive around
in a world where everybody drives around in
bland, boring, boxy Lada's everywhere?
And why did I bring that up, even though
the Lada was originally built off a Fiat
124 platform?
Why?
Because if we don't add an artistic complex
to it, that's all we're going to get.
When you go to a parking lot today and you
see that your CR-V, your CX-5, and even the
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RAV4 and Hyundai Tucson all look the exact
same and you have trouble telling them all
apart, that's because those vehicles were
made to fit the single purpose of what
buyers want when they purchase a vehicle,
but something like the Corvette, the Dodge,
viper, hell.
Even the original Volkswagen Beetle and
Willy's Jeep were made more.
They had a specific purpose in mind, but
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they also wanted to give it a lasting
impression on society.
Some of these vehicles the original
designers never thought they would blow up
and become such a major pop icon in the
world like the microbus, the type two
microbus.
But now when we look at it we see the
artistic design of it Art vehicles.
We have to sit back and think about it.
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We have to start protecting them because a
lot of these vehicles provide us a look
back at history of the automotive world.
You have to think about it.
Oh, we could talk about history of
humankind and all the things civilizations
and all that have done.
But the automotive history can change the
way we perceive the world.
Design changes as our tastes change and
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when design stops changing it's because our
tastes haven't evolved to that next step.
Over the past 20 years of rating vehicles,
I've noticed that our design tastes haven't
really changed in the world.
You could tell a vehicle from the 20s to
the 30s.
You know the 40s and 50s were getting a
little bit more difficult because the
beginning of the 40s were similar to the
30s and the end of the 40s were more like
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the 50s, but that's only because World War
II kind of screwed things up in the middle.
But like vehicles from the 50s, vehicles
from the 60s, vehicles from the 70s,
vehicles from the 80s, vehicles from the
90s and up until the early 2000s, we had
design features for each different decade.
Our tastes change and what we liked change.
Designs change.
Look at buildings.
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Buildings changed.
We had an artistic factor behind our
automotive designs and, even though some of
them you might not think were very artistic
or very amazing, design like an AE86, a
Corolla GTS Coupe its point in history and
the cult following that it has behind it
has given rise to that bland, boring design
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as a part of our history, a part of pop
culture and a part of the art world Art
cars.
There's a lot of them out there and, like I
said, we need to start protecting them to
showcase the beauty that went into
designing some of these vehicles.
There are small car companies out there
that have made some of the most amazing
vehicles in the world, but we take them for
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granted.
We look at it and just say it's a failed
car company.
Hell, Heinrik Fisker saw something amazing
with the original Karma.
The Karma Automotive and its investors
bought the design to keep it around Hell.
The brand new Fisker, the Ronin, that was
supposed to come out was something that was
slowly going to change the world.
He knew design and he knew how to create
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pieces of art, and even though those
companies fail, we need to protect them to
showcase them to future generations.
Seriously, every art museum out there
should have a Tucker torpedo to showcase
the amazing ingenuity that went behind
developing a car that was supposed to take
down the big three, to showcase
technological marvels that they thought of
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before they ever even came out An engine in
the rear, a swiveling headlight, safety
features that nobody ever even thought
about, pop-out windshields to save lives
Things we take for granted these days that
were put into these automobiles.
Now you look at them and you understand
behind them that it's not just a hunk of
metal made to convey you from point A to
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point B.
It's a beautiful piece of art and you can
have art galleries everywhere, but there
really should be automotive art galleries
as well.
When people start to see the artistic
factor behind some of the greatest works of
art in the automotive world, maybe they'll
understand how the automotive world really
influences a lot of our own culture.
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there should actually be more automotive
art galleries in the world, because we need
to start emphasizing why the automobiles
play such a vital role in our society.
They're not just hunks of metal, they're
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Send it out to your friends, your family.
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