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So I wanna welcome everybody. Happy Monday. I
wanna welcome you all too. Sorry if we
get some echo. I'm actually here in the,
really the,
the foyer, the the kind of the you
know, where you walk into my offices.
And today, we're gonna talk about the CompactLogic's
fourth generation. I do wanna wish you all
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a very happy Monday morning. And what you
see here
is the METTLA Toledo
trade show demo
from well, I I expect it'll be an
automation fair this year and other fairs as
well. I wanna say hi to, I think
it's Jim's the the because of the setup,
the screen is very far away. So but
hello to everybody who's watching. So in any
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case, this is what I'm working on next
couple days. I gotta get this all up
and running and do a video on how
to set it up and use it, and
I just thought it would be really fun.
It's a rate control application.
So, the the scale feeds into the I
n d three sixty, and then no matter
how much is left in there,
it keeps maintains a steady rate out. So
it should be pretty cool, but I'm looking
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forward to getting that set up later today.
And I was here, so I figured, well,
let's just do today's automation,
tech talk lunchtime edition from the foyer. Again,
I apologize for any echoes you're here.
Last minute mic setup change. So I'm wearing
the lavalier mic, not the the headset that
I was hoping to use. But in any
case,
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let me know if you guys can hear
me okay. If everything looks good on my
side, make sure you could see me okay.
What we're gonna do today is the generation
for oh, I know what I wanted to
say. Tomorrow and I believe it's tomorrow and
Friday, we have special guests
coming on to talk to us
about their companies
and, what they've learned,
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recently in automation. So this way, you guys
don't have to always just wait to hear
from me. And what I've learned, you can
hear from other people, and I invite all
our audience
to also,
thank you, Jims, to also,
you know,
come and join up in, a ten day
a ten day lunchtime, automation tech talk with
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me. Because, you know, I I'll tell you
what. I learn every time I go somewhere
or visit somebody or talk to someone, I
learn something new, and, I love learning new
stuff too. So I wanna invite you all
to come on the show. Now with that
said, let's see if everything's all still set
up correctly.
And to do to switch to make the
switch because I'm here in the lobby,
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I'm gonna have to do it like this.
Okay. Great.
It looks like it's working.
Okay. Let's see here. Alright. Alright. Excellent. So
we're talking about the CompactLogic's
fourth generation, which is also known as,
the fifty three seventy line. So we talked
about on the first gen, we talked about
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the fifty three twenty and thirty,
then we talked about the fifty three thirty
one, 32, and 35.
We talked about the fifty three forty three
and forty five, and so now we're on
the fifty three seventy.
And I gotta tell you, this, I thought,
was a great product launch. I gotta remember,
I'm using my my webcam now, so,
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don't put my hands in front of my
face. But in any case,
yes. So I,
you know, I thought it was such a
great product watch because if I remember correctly,
they all came out at the same time,
the l one, l two, and l three.
They all have the same features.
Now this presentation I'm using is a free
presentation from Rockwell.
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You should feel free to call Rockwell and
ask them for a copy,
and, they should give it to you. But
in any case,
I did take this compilation that I've been
putting together for some training. I did make
it available in my CompactLogix
course. So if you're in my CompactLogix course,
go to appendix a. It's the first item
up there that you download this compilation. Again,
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all the slides are free. What I did
is I spent
over a day going through them and taking
out all the good slides and try to
put put them into one one collection. But,
again, every all the source material is free
from Rockwell. So with that said, let me
see if I can find my mouse here,
and let's jump into this. So like I
said, there were three of these released. Three
in this one series, we had the l
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one, l two, and l three. And these
address a ton of the complaints from the
previous I mean, the improvements are just awesome.
First of all,
there's some commonality with all of these that,
that, you know, they all have, you know,
internal capacitors. No more batteries. They all have
a USB port. No more serial port. They
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all come with an SD card. No more
having to buy a 100 doll explain it
to the boss why you have to buy
a 100 or $200 Rockwell Compact Flash card.
Right? And so I think those things alone
are awesome. Plus they all had a built
in two port switch. Now you can't not
with these guys. You can't use that that
that's just one IP address. It's a switch.
It's not two independent ports, but still very
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cool.
The l two and l three, as you
can see here on the screen,
supported,
the seventeen sixty nine I l, and the
l one supported point I l. And the
l one was much less expensive, and, you
know, it just addressed all the issues we
had with the l 23,
but in any case,
that we talked about earlier in the week.
So the l one specifically, you can see
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it here. We have one in the training
room. I'm not I didn't I decided to
do the presentation and not and not rip
everything apart in the training room because that's
just a lot of work. I figure we
could you know, in fifteen, twenty minutes with
the presentation, we'll cover everything we need to
know. But in any case,
it's supported up to two axes of motion.
So caveat there.
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You know, this is not gonna be,
you need a an m
version, like an l 18 m,
right, or e r m to do a
motion. Right? But, it was things that you
could do to point IO because that that's
so much less expensive.
You can only have, I believe,
six
six modules
four or six modules. I have to look
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that up. I think it's in here. But
in any case, you know, you could get
point out with eight point inputs and eight
point outputs.
So,
really good. I covered all this, you know,
status indicators.
The it didn't have a key,
Although, who cared? Right? Nobody cared. You had
the toggle switch on the front,
and,
you know, the amount of distributed IO you
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could do on the Ethernet was limited. But
still, if you just need, you know, perfect
for a new OEM, you need a maybe
an HMI and a couple of VFDs,
a great, great little controller.
And, I was a big fan of it.
I wish they would still do the starter
pack with that because that was a great
deal too.
Then we had the l two.
This is and I'm using these I'm specifically
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using these nomenclatures because this is what we
use,
to talk about them. You know, the l
23 is the l 23. When I say
l one, l two, l three, we're talking
specifically about the fifty three seventies.
And, again, I I don't know why they
did the slide this way, but I would
actually have have named this one the fifty
three seventy one that is actually on the
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module itself on the side.
And I would have called this fifty three
seventy two. Again, that's exact that's on the
module. But But I maybe they just wanted
to show, hey. This is all one family,
so they just call them all 53 seventies
on the individual slides. But long story short,
this is just like the l 23, but
a lot smaller, has removable compact flash.
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There's no serial only version. They have Ethernet.
And, this one's motor up to four axis
if you had the m version.
You know, you could get the built in
high speed counter if you wanted.
So in any case, a huge upgrade from
the l 23,
and then we had the l three. So
this replaces your l 35.
And and, really, in most cases, we replace
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your your l four because we're not using
Sarcos anymore.
We're doing sip motion,
and,
you can get this this comes in several
different sizes.
So if you need lots of, servos, you
need lots of modules,
this guy would do it for you. Now
there is a version of this that they
that has no stored energy.
So, you know, we have this capacitor backup
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that's in the model in the unit, so
we don't need to have a battery. But,
what if you need to have no energy
in the thing when it's turned off? Right?
Like, let's say in our mind or you're
in a explosive
environment that when you turn this off all
power has to drain, there could be no
stored energy. And so they do because it's
not removable like the l seven.
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They do have a version of this that
will not have that capacitor in there,
in which case, you're gonna have to reload
from the SD card. Right? So,
in any case, you can see here just
such a jump up from the l 35
e.
Again, the ports are on the bottom. Here's
a picture I took of my units. So
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on the left, you have the l two,
and on the right, you have the l
three. So you can see the ports there
on the bottom of the units.
Okay. Now this starts going in the Compact
I Logic I o again. You guys probably
already know all about this, but I left
this in here for the students who are
maybe brand new to this and wanna learn
more about this.
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I did just so the students know, I
do have one of these units
in the school. I'm getting ready to do
some labs on it for you guys. So
maybe we'll even do some,
some tests. We also have point IO
on a on a
actually, I should say IO Link on point
IO as well. That will be have some
coming up labs. So in any case, if
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you guys are not in my compact course,
Rockwell should be able to get you these
or your distributor should be able to get
you these slides. That's where I got mine.
But in any case, if you're in the
course, all these slides are there. So that's
it for the
fourth generation
of CompactLogix.
Again, I think probably most of you out
there are using Rockwell, familiar with these. Of
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course, we'll cover the fifth gen. Again, I
have us, guest coming on. Let me set
see if I can switch back to full
side. And I do have some people,
on
LinkedIn commenting here. So let me see if
I can pull that up really quick.
And let me
let's see here. So I don't have all
my fancy buttons that, you know, my that
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I would have in the other room.
So let me switch back to full screen
here,
and let me see if I can
see some of the questions that came in.
Let's see.
Have a discussion about
cinematics
s two twenty
and c u three twenty,
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with the Siemens managers. Well, we've covered the
s two twenty, and I think we're gonna
cover the s two twenty again.
Talking about the clean energy version of that
drive. I got that in my schedule. So
that's great. I we also had
in,
an exchange for some marketing dollars,
to do some, ad free how tos.
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We had an s two twenty donated to
us to use at
the school. So, we hope to get to
that again. Number one priority is keeping the
lights on so, you know, actually making money,
but we do like samples,
and, we'll definitely get to all of those.
So the next one,
and I thank you for the all the
good comments. Great. Thank you and all that.
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The fifty three seventy l one is still
active products.
Alright. So Dean is saying that the l
two and l three just went active
mature. That's too bad
because if we look at oh, we'll talk
about this tomorrow in great detail.
But if you look at the, fifth generation,
right, the fifty three eighties,
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they're a lot more expensive. Why? Now,
again, could the vendor increase the price of
the lower lower,
you know, the slower, less memory products so
there is the same as our new products?
Yeah. They could. But in any case, if
we look at the launch price and the
real price, not the any inflated pricing that
goes on as a marketing scheme,
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I'm not saying that's what they're doing. I
haven't looked at the pricing. Okay? So but
I'm saying sometimes you will see that. But
in any case, the l two and l
three are not the high capacity,
high
speed, you know, controllers. Right? Their IO is
not as fast as fifty three seventy IO
is not as fast as fifty three eighty.
50 we we've had, Rockwell on the show.
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They talked about that, the performance difference
between one and the other. And I think
Rocco does a great job of you know
what? Let me see if I have this
slide. I think
does a great job of talking about performance
versus,
you know, your OEM type. You know, if
you need a standard controller or a performance
controller.
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And so I'm going back to my desktop
now, and I wanna thank Dean for for
providing that information
because I really appreciate that. I don't get
to file that the I don't get to
know I if there was a way to
get notifications of that stuff, I would definitely
sign up for it, but there's just, like
I just want POC, HMI, VFD, you know,
get those notifications. But
in any case, the reason I came back
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to the slides is because there is a,
some Rocco did some great jobs. So here's
one of the slides. We'll cover this tomorrow,
but they call it their performance
controller.
And so the l three
is their nonperformance.
I'm kinda, like, going into some of tomorrow
stuff today, but there is a nice chart
here. Again, all of these public free slides
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are available from your Arakwal distributor. These are
dated 2016,
but,
you know, with I'm just looking at some
of these charts here that talk about speed,
and and we'll go through these. You know,
we'll spend some extra time on these tomorrow.
Okay? But you can see here we're comparing
the l,
you can see the l three x, l
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three, and the fifty five eighty. K? You
can see the speeds. I mean, it's not
even not even close. Right? The speed comparison.
So I always thought it was great to
have the l three for your for your
larger OEMs and then the the fifty three
eighty, right, for your, you know, high end
system needs. Right? And so if Raquel you
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know? And I don't know what's going on
behind the scenes. Maybe there's a component shortage
or maybe,
you know, something else is going on. Let
me switch back to full screen here. You
guys don't need to see my Google desktop.
But in any case, who knows what's going
on? I do not. But I do appreciate
Dean. He even put a link on now
this is on LinkedIn.
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He even put a link in there,
that that, shows the, information on that. So,
Dean, thank you again,
and,
thank you everybody who's saying thank you.
What are we at? Fifteen minutes? I think
that's all I have for today. So I'll
be working on this next couple days, but
we should have a guest on tomorrow. I
believe it's Thursday or Friday. We have another
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guest on. These are people you guys will
probably know from LinkedIn,
if you're on LinkedIn.
And, one of them is Brandon, who's done
a lot of articles and and stuff for
us over the years.
And then,
we'll do January 5, I think, on Wednesday.
And then you should see this probably in
a couple weeks because it has to go
through the review process once the video's done.
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And we got, some other cool stuff coming
out as well. But with that, I'm gonna
end lunchtime tech talk. Again, I wanna invite
vendors and users to come on the show
and share what you know, what you've learned.
I know I also wanna get into, I
got a new PLC from Schneider. I wanna
start covering them at lunchtime as well. I
still have to, I literally have to buy
a light switch because the occupancy sensor in
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there, I can't get at the stand long
enough to get through a show. It turns
lights off. And because of my monitors and
everything, it just there's no way to set
up the stage
so the occupancy sensor could see me. And
so I literally have to buy a light
switch for that room and, and get that
set up so I can actually,
go from that room. But in any case,
I wanna wish you guys all a great
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rest of your Monday. I wanna wish you
all good health and happiness. And until next
time, my friends,
peace.