August 26, 2025 • 28 mins
Shawn discusses the Fifth (and current) Generation of Compactlogix Controllers in today's Automation Tech Talk, Lunchtime Edition:
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Shawn Tierney (Host): Hey, everybody. Hope you are all doing well today. Please let me know if you can hear me and see me okay. Everything's looking good on my side, though, so I hope you're off to a great day. I was I had a, actually, a special guest scheduled to come on today.
But at the last minute, then a customer called, and, he had to go out and do a sales call or a service call. And, yeah. So these things happen. I mean, I would like I was telling them, customers come first, and, lunchtime tech talks come second. That's always the case.
But in any case, we hope to get him back on. I didn't put all his information in the show because I know, you know, these these kind of folks, you guys out there are very busy, and, you can't make every show. So I also wanna say hi to Rob in the chat. We have the chat coming in from both, YouTube and, LinkedIn. But when I reply, like, hey, Rob, it only went to YouTube.
So in any case, okay. Rob confirms. Thank you, Rob. You're like my producer today. In any case, let's go ahead and get in today's show.
The first thing I wanna do, though, is let me click here. And I am offering this is a a special for, well, we're almost in fall now. Right? So I'm offering a special. I'm gonna offer any viewer of the show, and you can give this to somebody you know because I know a lot of you are already experts.
A lot of people watch this show are already automation experts, so you would not need this. But you can gift this to one person. It is a, a 20% discount on any of my courses that are $99 or more, and, that is, that goes for the bundles as well. And I do this I always do this for returning customers. So let's say a student takes a PLC course, that he wants to take an HMI course, I always offer a 20% discount to on their next course.
And, of course, they can always upgrade to the bundle for the difference in price. But I thought, you know, I wanna do something. You know? This show is only a couple weeks old, so I wanted to do something, special for you guys who found the show here early. This not only goes for those who are watching live, but also for those who are watching after the fact.
All you have to do and you can see here the automationschool.com. I got the email you can use. I got the voice mail. I got the you can actually submit a form to send me an email if that's easier, and you can even book a time. Now this also applies to, group enrollments.
So a lot of people don't know this, but I work with a lot of Fortune 500 companies, and we enroll, you know, five, ten, 20 people at a time. There's an additional discount off of the sale prices when they do that. And so we'll also have that 20% off just to get started for anybody who has a group. Now a group is three or more. Some people like to say a group is two.
Two is a peer. So, like, we we we did clearly have a group of three or more more students. But in any case, we work with a lot of Fortune 500 companies in, actually, for for going on a decade now. So in any case, you'll see somewhere here I have all the logos of all the different companies. Actually, I think it's on the course pages.
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(00:00):
Hey, everybody.
Hope you are all doing well today. Please
let me know if you can hear me
and see me okay. Everything's looking good on
my side, though, so I hope you're off
to a great day. I was I had
a, actually, a special guest scheduled to come
on today. But at the last minute, then
a customer called,
and, he had to go out and do
a sales call or a service call. And,
(00:20):
yeah. So these things happen. I mean, I
would like I was telling them, customers come
first, and,
lunchtime tech talks come second. That's always the
case. But in any case, we hope to
get him back on. I didn't put all
his information in the show because I know,
you know, these these kind of folks, you
guys out there are very busy, and, you
can't make every show. So I also wanna
(00:40):
say hi to Rob in the chat. We
have the chat coming in from both,
YouTube and,
LinkedIn. But when I reply, like, hey, Rob,
it only went to YouTube. So in any
case,
okay. Rob confirms. Thank you, Rob. You're like
my producer today. In any case, let's go
ahead and get in today's show. The first
(01:01):
thing I wanna do, though, is let me
click here.
And I am offering this is a a
special for,
well, we're almost in fall now. Right?
So I'm offering a special. I'm gonna offer
any viewer of the show,
and you can give this to somebody you
know because I know a lot of you
are already experts. A lot of people watch
this show are already automation experts, so you
(01:21):
would not need this. But you can gift
this to one person. It is a, a
20% discount on any of my courses that
are $99
or more,
and,
that is, that goes for the bundles as
well. And I do this I always do
this for returning customers. So let's say a
student takes a PLC course, that he wants
to take an HMI course, I always offer
(01:43):
a 20% discount to on their next course.
And, of course, they can always upgrade to
the bundle for the difference in price. But
I thought, you know, I wanna do something.
You know? This show is only a couple
weeks old, so I wanted to do something,
special for you guys who found the show
here early. This not only goes for those
who are watching live,
but also for those who are watching after
the fact. All you have to do and
(02:03):
you can see here the automationschool.com.
I got the email you can use. I
got the voice mail. I got the you
can actually submit a form to send me
an email if that's easier, and you can
even book a time. Now this also applies
to,
group enrollments.
So a lot of people don't know this,
but I work with a lot of Fortune
500 companies, and we enroll, you know, five,
ten, 20 people at a time. There's an
(02:25):
additional discount off of the sale prices
when they do that. And so we'll also
have that 20% off just to get started
for anybody who has a group. Now a
group is three or more. Some people like
to say a group is two.
Two is a peer.
So,
like, we we we did clearly have a
group of three or more more students. But
in any case, we work with a lot
(02:46):
of Fortune 500 companies
in,
actually,
for for going on a decade now. So
in any case, you'll see somewhere here I
have all the logos
of all the different companies. Actually, I think
it's on the course pages. That said, I
wanted to show you guys something else too.
In, the automationblog.com,
you guys now move this to a new
server. You know, we're having a little, you
(03:07):
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working great. Some things are are, still, still
working on. Every once in a while, I
have to talk to them about some speed
issues. But in any case, of course, this
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of videos.
And I wanted to show you, though, what
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So here's the, show from yesterday.
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So we have the video. You can watch
here. Right? Then you have the audio. Right?
And this is the automation tech talk audio,
so I rebranded the automation news headlines.
And then I've been you know, it takes
an hour or two to get the transcripts,
but these are actually pretty good transcripts.
Much better than what you get from YouTube,
because you have a little time stamps and
everything. And so this is more conversational.
(03:49):
So I've been trying to do this for
the automation podcast and,
this show, and it's so far, it's going
well. Cost this does cost extra, but, in
any case,
if we could get you guys, you know,
if you ever missed the live show and
you wanna catch the replay, you could do
it on YouTube. You can do it on
LinkedIn, but you also get that full, nice,
easy to read transcript. And I know some
people would rather read, especially first thing in
(04:11):
the morning than than watch. So in any
case so with that, let's get over to
what we're gonna talk about today. This is
the backup plan I had here. Let's go
to present mode.
And so what I'm showing here, we're gonna
talk about the fifth generation of CompactLogix.
And what I'm showing here are free
pro PowerPoint slides from Rockwell.
(04:31):
I spent
a whole weekend going because I had this
rush order come in. A vendor wanted me
to go teach their, their, customer how to
program their PLCs. Right? And I was like
ecstatic to do that, but I I had
to spend the whole weekend,
taking all kinds of slides and putting them
together. I wanted to give this the customer
something that they could keep, something that wasn't
(04:53):
something that was free to the public. Right?
So in this case, Rockwell gives these slides
away for free, and, they're all copyrighted by
Rockwell. But in any case,
you can call your Rocktell,
Rockwell distributor and ask for a copy of
these. Again, if they have any good people
left, they'll they'll have this archive like I
did. I have, I don't know, twenty five
years archived before I started my own business.
(05:13):
But in any case,
I was just sending somebody, so we do
the Automation Museum podcast over the weekends. Haven't
released any episodes yet, but I've been sending
the guests when they come on. They're like,
you know, I wish I had something on
this old product that that old I've even
helped companies. They're like, oh, I can't find
this old manual. I'm like, yeah. I got
it. So in any case,
I I did I did, post this for
(05:36):
those of you in my compact basics course,
CompactLogix course over at the automation school. I
did put the this up there in appendix
a so you can grab a copy of
this. But if you're not in my courses,
just ask your Rockwell rep. If they're worth
their salt, they'll have all these presentations free
from Rockwell. But I thought we had used
this. I thought it would be good because
all my you can see behind me let
(05:56):
me go back full screen here. You see
behind me my,
all my, you know, high end or, actually,
every one of my CompactLogix
except for the one, two, and three generations
I showed you earlier in the series,
they're all wired in the trainers here at
the automation school. And, again, we're we're good
to do four, five, six, seven people. If
you wanna send them in, we can actually
do up to eight people if you wanna
(06:17):
send them in to learn Logix or s
seven. We can also do the HMIs.
But,
you know, you wanna definitely in the falls,
the Berkshires is a great place to visit.
And, we have within three miles all the
major hotels. Just go to automationschool.com
forward slash live. You'll see all that. Plus,
we get the Norman Rockwell Museum. We have
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Jim Jiminy Peak. We have, Mount Greylock.
But in any case, let's get back to
what we're talking about here. And,
let's see. Wrong one. I wanna be up
there. Okay. Great.
Where The Berkshires is about an hour east
of Albany, New York. It's officially in Massachusetts,
and I'm in the center of The Berkshires
in Downtown Pittsfield.
(06:59):
So, actually, this building used to be an
old paper mill. So in any case and
it houses a, a newspaper now, but I
don't know if they print here or not.
In any case, thank you for asking where
I was located.
And, the automationschool.com
forward slash live, I got links to all
the attractions, links to all the nearby hotels,
Hampton Inn, Holiday Inn, you know, all the
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big ones you can think of we have
within three miles of the site.
And, you know, one of the things I
do that, you know, of, and, you know,
that, you know, big corporation can't is, you
know, if you wanna learn Siemens and Rockwell
the same day, I can do that. Right?
The other thing is,
if you wanted to start at, like, twelve
noon because you wanna drive in, like, I've
had people drive in from Pennsylvania.
(07:41):
You know, if you wanna drive in from
some place that's four or five hours away,
we can start at twelve, 01:00
and then finish the next morning, right, or
do two or three days in a row.
We also not only have the physical trainers,
we also have factory IO. I'm a factory
IO reseller.
So if you blow through all those, we've
got even more. And trust me, you won't
finish all the factory IO in a day.
That's for sure. So in any case,
(08:02):
back to generation number
five
of,
CompactLogix.
And this is a '50 three eighty. Now,
again, I wanna I think it was Dean
yesterday
who said that the fifty three seventies, the
l twos and l threes, were just recently
marked as active mature. And at the time,
I was like, why would they do that?
But then I remembered, the micro 1,400
(08:23):
has been active mature for a long time.
So maybe maybe they'll still be around for
a long time. There there's really no low
capacity fifty three eighty. Right? And that's the
point I'm trying to get to here is,
they're they're expensive and they're high capacity. Right?
So, you know, you know, if you like,
to use a comparison,
there's no s seven twelve hundred version of
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the CompactLogix
fifty three eighty. Right? So in any case,
you know, if you know anything about Siemens,
it's a twelve hundred and fifteen hundred program
with the same software, but the 12 hundred's
a little micro size PLC.
In any case, so,
this and I'm gonna tell you that that
this line has really just taken off for
those high performance needing
(09:04):
applications
with the dual giga gigabit. Now when it
first came out, you could not have two
separate IPs. But from the beginning,
they've always talked about the ability
that will that they will allow you to
have dual IPs. And I believe it was
version 19,
'29
19.
Version 29
that
(09:25):
came out,
with the dual IP support. And it was
so it was just a firmware flash.
So the the scan time
is, you know, much faster. Okay? And,
the core languages all execute with the same
performance. That's a big difference. And then screw
to screw performance
from, like, input to output,
they're much, much faster. The IO is the
(09:46):
backplane is just so much faster. Right? So,
I mean, not that it's a physical backplane,
but you know what I mean. Right? The
connection between the modules and the controller.
So in any case, let me make sure
here.
I don't wanna pass a slide here. Okay.
Because these look very similar. So if you
think about the fifty three eighty, 20%
increase
in capacity.
Right? So that means,
(10:07):
you know,
just generically,
20% more servos, 20% more memory, 20%
IO,
you know, 20 more you know, 20%
in most categories. Right? And you can see
here, 32 axes
that that this is all dependent on the
controller you buy and, 80 Ethernet IP nodes.
Right? So just think 80 drives or 80
(10:30):
racks of IO off of one controller. Pretty
cool.
Now
if you do a motion control,
of course, you want the m version. One
of my two are an m version, but
I don't have any of these beautiful looking
servos.
But, in any case, 32 drives in a
single controller.
Multiple cost update rates in advance. Now they
(10:50):
even have testing. You can actually test the
moves now,
or simulate them. I we when we had
Rockwell on the show, they talked about that.
Advanced tuning with the load observer and tracking
notch filter. I am not a motion guy,
so I I don't have any of that
stuff here. So,
but my motion people tell me that's really
(11:11):
cool stuff.
So in any case,
security,
you know, the control based change detection,
there's a bunch of stuff that people don't
realize this for years, though. Compact and ControlLogix
have been logging stuff to the nonvolatile memory.
So, that's been going on for years, and
now they're doing even more. So that's very
cool.
(11:32):
What do we have here? So the onboard
display now, this morning, early this morning, in
the wee hours of the morning, I was
trying to change the IP address on my
s seven fifteen hundred. Thank you, Siemens, for
sending that in. And, this is the one
I've showed you guys years ago. And, I
just went up to the screen and did
it like it was a micro 1,400, you
know, but in color. Right? So s m
1,500 has this gray screen. I'm not trying
(11:54):
to belittle the screen on the fifty three
eighty,
but, you know, we've had these on the
IO modules for a long time. And quite
honestly,
it's so two thousands.
Right? Or maybe 20.
But, in any case, I I would rather
have it than not have it,
but I should maybe maybe throw a little
ping out there to Rockwell. Take a look
at the competition. They are doing some awesome
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things. In any case,
I did love the you know, comes with
the SD card still, switch the set of
key, which I'm I you know, at first,
I was
not a big fan of, but it's really
doesn't matter. U USB, perfect, like the fifty
three seventy.
Terminal blocks, I don't believe it comes with
the terminal blocks. You have to either buy
them either screw or or spring type.
(12:36):
So always make sure. That's why I always
tell people when you're buying rock, we'll always
use IAB,
integrated architecture builder. I've done many videos on
that in the past, and, it's in all
my courses. Probably have to do an update
for the courses soon because, you know, every
few years changes.
But in any case,
I really like it. And then this cover
here on the right hand side, unlike the
69 IO,
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this is just a piece of plastic.
So I like that it's just inexpensive,
just a dust cover for the for the
terminals, which are live. Right? So very important
to have that on there. But and I
always thought this one was a little odd.
It supports up to 31 local IO modules.
So we've been 30 IO modules local for
so long. Right?
CompactLogic's
(13:17):
up to 30.
Slick 500 up to 30. Right? Here, they
got to 31.
I don't know why. It's just kinda, like,
funny. Maybe just because they could do it.
Right? What do you guys think? But in
any case, up to 31 local IO modules.
Very interesting.
And, of course, it supports all the now
this is what we kinda took a sneak
peek at yesterday,
(13:38):
and this is what I was saying. Hey.
It is truly high performance versus fifty three
seventy.
Now when the fifty three seventy came out,
we were like, wow. This is so much
better than the 50 well, than the l
three series. Right?
But in any case,
if we look at some of these thing,
of course, you get dual one gigabit, not
a 100 megabit, one gigabit
Ethernet ports. Right? That's pretty cool. Right? So
(14:01):
you can see there's a chart over here
that kinda goes through this. You know,
complex applications, high performance applications, you know, you're
gonna use the fifty three eighty.
K?
Communications
is now separated from control.
This is huge. Right?
So there's no more with the fifty three
eighty. Right?
(14:22):
There's no more what we call the, overhead.
20% of, you know, the communications overhead.
Yep. Previously, 20% of the control scan by
default was set for the, you know, overhead
time slice totally gone, eliminated.
This unit is now a quad core if
you haven't looked at the the, books on
it. So they just give a core to
that. I think we have a slide on
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that. But, yeah, that is that's very cool.
Right?
So no system over head time slice. Now
if you've never run into that, you probably
never used one of the old contact logics
because maybe not so much with the fifty
three seventy. But back in the day, I
still remember when they went from 10% default
to 20% default
because, HMIs were having a hard time getting
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all the data. You know, you have 20
HMIs going to a single PLC. They can
put a quite a load on that PLC.
Right?
PAC. I know. I know. Before everybody types
it in, I know Rocco caused their newest
generation PAC,
so does Schneider,
but not everybody does that. So PLC, PAC,
it's all vendor specific.
(15:24):
Okay. So program I actually had somebody tell
me once. PAC, is there anything that doesn't
isn't called PAC? It's old, old, old. And
I'm like like,
like, dude, you can get out more. Look
at some of the other vendors. They they
have every feature that your PAC has, but
they call them a PLC. So,
you know, it's marketing. Sometimes we just buy
into it. Like, it's not a tissue. It's
(15:45):
a Kleenex. Right? Well, that's life. Programming language
extension
and task switching enhancements. What I really wanna
show you here is how much faster. Right?
How much faster the, the fifty three eighty
is over the fifty three seventy. Not that
the fifty three seventy was bad, but look
at this. Here's your l three. Like, so
l three x. Right? We talked about l
35, l 32,
(16:06):
l 31, if you're unfortunate to get that.
Still here, a 168
for this program, hundred and sixty eight milliseconds.
L three, forty five, huge increase.
Fifty three eighty, nine.
Talk about fast. Yeah. Really fast. K. And
then the test switching time,
(16:26):
we used to say,
you know, budget a millisecond every time you
switch tasks.
Now we're down into the microseconds. Right? So
and, again, they're saying a hundred and sixty
five microseconds
for the, l 35 e. I don't that's
not the rule of thumb we were using,
but in any case, very interesting slides here.
(16:47):
Dual IP mode, we really already covered this
support for DLR.
You know, fifty three seventy had that too.
I think that was one of the big
things about the fifty three seventy having that
dual port switch in every unit was just
amazing.
So lower investment cost
with higher
performance. Now,
I would say,
space reduction for sure. Right? So look over
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here.
So you could here you would need
the, let's say, the l 30 e r,
right, fifty three seventy three, PA four, and
ECR. So that's three items, but now the
power supply is built into the controller,
like the PLC twos.
And then, here you have the mini twos.
Right? LSP,
(17:29):
like, two sixteen with the built in power
supply.
In any case, then you have the l
three
ten e r. So you can see much
less space because everything's kinda built into one.
Because if you're
lucky enough to have the l four, you
save him even more space. Right?
So because that power supply was we already
saw earlier in the series. Right? Now as
(17:50):
far as cost,
I I'm I don't know.
I don't no. On the l four, yeah.
Sure. But was this, like, real cost, or
is this, like, inflated cost? I don't know.
So, and you know what? You I guess
you could pull up an old old price
list from ten years ago to see if
that changed, but we got better things to
do.
(18:12):
As you can see, full memory utilization. So,
you know, this is a big thing because
we used to say you can't use all
your memory.
Right? Don't use it all. You need may
need to save some for some firmware
or something else.
Not anymore. That's all stored somewhere else. So
you can actually use all your memory. Now
I would always save a little bit.
(18:32):
You never know. Right? But, in any case
yeah. We're not we're not you don't tell
people anymore, hey. Save 20% just in case
you have to add a new firmware,
and it gets a little bit bigger. And
you may say, well, I'll keep it at
version x forever, and then you may find
there's a bug in version x. You may
have to go to version x point two.
Right? So
but, yeah, that that is just another advantage.
(18:53):
You know, not only thing is this thing
really fast, but
now we can use all our memory for
program. It doesn't show you yeah. It's kinda
like you buy a computer, has a terabyte,
and then there's, like, 200 gigabytes worth of
spam built on the hard drive. It's like,
why do they do that to me? But
in any case,
so you do get the diagnostics. Right? That's
much better than the $53.70
(19:14):
and, the security with DigiSign.
Enhanced diagnostics and the web page. I don't
spend a lot of time in the web
pages, but it's there if you're having problems.
Here's where we talked about the memory, not
having to reserve 20% anymore.
You see message instructions, trans alarms, RS links,
online edits,
all that goes away.
(19:36):
K?
So here here's where they're recommending you kept
20% open,
and now you don't have to.
So you're really getting 20% more usable memory.
The the this this reminds me the way
the system's laid out reminds me of
no point I o in in some respect
because you have
the, these different buses here,
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and you have the field power distributor blocks
so you can,
feed more power through. I don't know if
they're changing from AC to DC here. Those
kinda look like relay boards.
K. But in any case, let's go around
the easy identification.
Yeah. You know, now they these these are
the original look. They did they did stop
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painting them black.
One of the reason I'm not a fan
of that because the black scratches off sometimes.
Not that you should be scratching your program
or controller,
but,
I kinda like the kinda beigey gray, the
light gray color.
But in any case, I don't know. You
guys like the would you like do you
like the controls about the new black look
with the hourglass,
(20:39):
or do you like it better as light
gray? I'll I'm a light gray guy. Both
my units here are like grays.
Hey. Maybe that's why I got deals on
them. Though they wanted the black version.
The DIN rail connections, I'm still not like,
the oh, well, the 60 nines is snapped
on. These, I'm kinda like, is that really
on there? But,
reduced space, this is true. One inch
(21:02):
of thermal clearance. That's big. You save because
I think the other ones were, like, two
and a half inches or two inches at
a minimum.
There is a vent triggers, instantaneous event triggers.
So that not everything could do an event
trigger in the CompactLogix.
There's very limited what you could do an
event trigger on.
The high speed backplane, that is true. If
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you look at your RPIs, you can go
much faster.
Now
remember
filters. And so I had even wrote articles
on the blog about this. Yeah. Filters,
they had the of,
you know, trim off that noise, eliminate noise,
analog and digital.
And so,
you can have this high speed you know,
you can put a higher RPM there, but
if you have a filter in there, right,
(21:44):
then, you're not gonna see that kind of
speed.
Time stamping of inputs and scheduled outputs,
I haven't done anything with that. Alright. So
I think we covered all that.
K. So he has a ladder diagram, 13
times faster.
Structure text, 21 times faster. Function blocks, seven
and a half times faster.
(22:05):
Sequential function shot, 20 times faster. Very, very
cool.
K. So a 20 x improvement.
K.
So this is why this is why the
$53.80 came out. This is what it addresses.
It just makes it everything you can do
a lot more. You don't have to jump
right into the control logics
to get this high speed. Right?
(22:27):
Alright. What else do we got here? Ah,
yeah. See, I highlighted these.
Don't forget to order these. I need to
get an extra set myself.
You do get the MCAP, though. Thank goodness.
Imagine forgetting that.
K. Here's a closer
look. K.
See the ports on the bottom?
They're I wish they were a little closer,
(22:48):
and they're separated a little bit too. I
I really like the fifty three seventy
ports, but, you know, these have more functionality,
so maybe they need more spacing. Hey. You
could see your reset button.
Okay.
And USB port.
And there's your part numbers. They've added a
bunch of models since the this came out.
I'm sure,
(23:08):
there's no start energy. There's all these. I
think it there's so many more of these
now.
The m promotion.
K. What else we got? Zero to 60.
I'm not seeing any anything else there that's
interesting.
Okay. So that's kind of the summary slides.
So that's it for our tour of the
(23:30):
fifth
generation
CompactLogix,
the 5380.
Don't know if there's gonna be a 5390.
Probably. Right? But I don't know. We did
have Rockwell on talking about the l nine
or 5590.
Right? That, they're gonna be showing our automation
fee. Very excited for that. And,
you know, probably a year or two later,
they'll have a fifty three ninety. I'm wondering
(23:52):
if the reason they act and mature the
l two and l three is because
they're gonna have a fifty three ninety one,
like an l one that's actually a fifty
three ninety. Or maybe they'll do a fifty
three eighty l one. That would be very
cool. You know, that that smaller level, I
think, is you know, when it comes to
doing large systems, high performance, there's no no
problem with Logix. They've always been able to
(24:14):
do that, but they've always struggled on the
small the small end. And then the l
one was a great until it went from,
like, I don't know, $1,400,
$2,400.
It was a great small fit for small
OEMs now. You know? And everything's going up.
It's just incredible. I you know, the one
thing that I was checking that didn't go
up was,
or substantially, anyways,
(24:35):
was the starter pack for the micro eight
twenty. Now I know there's a new micro
eight twenty coming. I start referencing a couple
manuals. I didn't actually see it anywhere, and
I I I would love to get somebody
from Rockwell on to talk about it. Because,
you know, they upgraded the states the five
the,
was it? The August,
the August, and now it's August turn, and
I see it referenced in some manuals that
(24:55):
they're gonna update it. And I think they
add, like, the f one and some IO
support, Ethernet IO support.
They probably add on things too, but I
don't have any, so I haven't looked into
it.
But you can still get a a micro
eight twenty. According to proposal works updated last
week, you can still get that for around
$250.
And I was actually looking at an eight
ten. I'm trying to get that eight ten
(25:15):
input simulator to show it to my students,
but
they want about the same price for the
eight ten solder pack. So it's like, yeah,
I'll pass on that. I got a couple
of eight tens, and I don't use them
much. So in any case so with that,
you know what I should probably do
is just, first of all, I wanna invite
any vendors,
cuss, any users,
(25:36):
or any,
SIs out there, OEMs who wanna come on
to talk about well, if you're a user,
whether you're an SI or an end user,
talk about what you've learned
recently about products, automation products. Doesn't matter if
it's Allen Bradley, Siemens, whatever. You know? Love
to have you on. And then vendors, if
you want well, and also SIs, if you
wanna talk about your company and services you
(25:57):
provide. OEMs, if you wanna come on during
lunch, talk about the machines you build.
You know, I wanna use this lunchtime as
a way to just educate everybody,
you know, quickly, you know, during a half
an hour and, you know, I'll pass on
my information. But if you can pass on
yours and vendors, you get a cool new
product. You you you just wanna come on
and do a casual livestream. We still have
the automation podcast, which is kinda like that
(26:18):
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not recorded.
You know? I'm sorry. Not live. It's recorded
and edited. But, actually, I'm editing tomorrow's got
about half done. But in any case,
yeah. So just wanna invite you guys to
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on YouTube.
Let me pull up the automation school again.
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If you wanna know about training,
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The automation blog, there is a contact link
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And,
you know, don't forget if you want 20%
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Right? This is not $90 $9 a month
for $500 a year. Actually, you can get
almost all of my courses for $500 a
year. Not all of them, but a a
big bundle of them for that price.
So, let me see if I can go
back here. So with that, we are recording,
and I'm reaching out to people who know
stuff about old automation products for the Automation
(27:23):
Museum podcast. We did one with a gentleman
who actually wrote the book on Triconics,
and, we got that in the can. This
is something I'm doing on Sundays. It's totally
nonprofit for automationmuseum.org.
We're trying to raise money for it. And
we did another one last weekend for on
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Rockwell.
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And, we talked about the PLC three
and got into the PLC five some as
well. And,
I've reached out to some folks who know
a lot about Cymax.
I reached out to folks. One of the
guys is reaching out the the founder of,
Wonderware,
one of the founders to have him come
on. So, I don't know when those will
start releasing, but they'll have their own like,
(28:04):
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they'll have it'll have its own podcast. I
won't be mixing it up with this one.
But it will still be out of my
YouTube channel until we actually get the Automation
Museum
funded. Right? So I'll just stick because what's
the sense of publishing it on YouTube if
you have no followers,
with a brand new channel? But in any
(28:24):
case so lots going on. I still got
the middle of Toledo and the other room
I'm working on and a lot of all
this stuff, but I am gonna let you
get back to what you have planned this
afternoon. I wanna make sure I'm done before
I hit that half hour mark. So I
wanna wish you all the CFM up to
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chatted today. I wanna wish you all good
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friends,
(28:45):
peace.
Hey, everybody.
Hope you are all doing well today. Please
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(00:20):
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would like I was telling them, customers come
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lunchtime tech talks come second. That's always the
case. But in any case, we hope to
get him back on. I didn't put all
his information in the show because I know,
you know, these these kind of folks, you
guys out there are very busy, and, you
can't make every show. So I also wanna
(00:40):
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have the chat coming in from both,
YouTube and,
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it only went to YouTube. So in any
case,
okay. Rob confirms. Thank you, Rob. You're like
my producer today. In any case, let's go
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And I am offering this is a a
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So I'm offering a special. I'm gonna offer
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Two is a peer.
So,
like, we we we did clearly have a
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in any case, we work with a lot
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in,
actually,
for for going on a decade now. So
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In, the automationblog.com,
you guys now move this to a new
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And I wanted to show you, though, what
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And this is the automation tech talk audio,
so I rebranded the automation news headlines.
And then I've been you know, it takes
an hour or two to get the transcripts,
but these are actually pretty good transcripts.
Much better than what you get from YouTube,
because you have a little time stamps and
everything. And so this is more conversational.
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this show, and it's so far, it's going
well. Cost this does cost extra, but, in
any case,
if we could get you guys, you know,
if you ever missed the live show and
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it on YouTube. You can do it on
LinkedIn, but you also get that full, nice,
easy to read transcript. And I know some
people would rather read, especially first thing in
(04:11):
the morning than than watch. So in any
case so with that, let's get over to
what we're gonna talk about today. This is
the backup plan I had here. Let's go
to present mode.
And so what I'm showing here, we're gonna
talk about the fifth generation of CompactLogix.
And what I'm showing here are free
pro PowerPoint slides from Rockwell.
(04:31):
I spent
a whole weekend going because I had this
rush order come in. A vendor wanted me
to go teach their, their, customer how to
program their PLCs. Right? And I was like
ecstatic to do that, but I I had
to spend the whole weekend,
taking all kinds of slides and putting them
together. I wanted to give this the customer
something that they could keep, something that wasn't
(04:53):
something that was free to the public. Right?
So in this case, Rockwell gives these slides
away for free, and, they're all copyrighted by
Rockwell. But in any case,
you can call your Rocktell,
Rockwell distributor and ask for a copy of
these. Again, if they have any good people
left, they'll they'll have this archive like I
did. I have, I don't know, twenty five
years archived before I started my own business.
(05:13):
But in any case,
I was just sending somebody, so we do
the Automation Museum podcast over the weekends. Haven't
released any episodes yet, but I've been sending
the guests when they come on. They're like,
you know, I wish I had something on
this old product that that old I've even
helped companies. They're like, oh, I can't find
this old manual. I'm like, yeah. I got
it. So in any case,
I I did I did, post this for
(05:36):
those of you in my compact basics course,
CompactLogix course over at the automation school. I
did put the this up there in appendix
a so you can grab a copy of
this. But if you're not in my courses,
just ask your Rockwell rep. If they're worth
their salt, they'll have all these presentations free
from Rockwell. But I thought we had used
this. I thought it would be good because
all my you can see behind me let
(05:56):
me go back full screen here. You see
behind me my,
all my, you know, high end or, actually,
every one of my CompactLogix
except for the one, two, and three generations
I showed you earlier in the series,
they're all wired in the trainers here at
the automation school. And, again, we're we're good
to do four, five, six, seven people. If
you wanna send them in, we can actually
do up to eight people if you wanna
(06:17):
send them in to learn Logix or s
seven. We can also do the HMIs.
But,
you know, you wanna definitely in the falls,
the Berkshires is a great place to visit.
And, we have within three miles all the
major hotels. Just go to automationschool.com
forward slash live. You'll see all that. Plus,
we get the Norman Rockwell Museum. We have
(06:37):
Jim Jiminy Peak. We have, Mount Greylock.
But in any case, let's get back to
what we're talking about here. And,
let's see. Wrong one. I wanna be up
there. Okay. Great.
Where The Berkshires is about an hour east
of Albany, New York. It's officially in Massachusetts,
and I'm in the center of The Berkshires
in Downtown Pittsfield.
(06:59):
So, actually, this building used to be an
old paper mill. So in any case and
it houses a, a newspaper now, but I
don't know if they print here or not.
In any case, thank you for asking where
I was located.
And, the automationschool.com
forward slash live, I got links to all
the attractions, links to all the nearby hotels,
Hampton Inn, Holiday Inn, you know, all the
(07:20):
big ones you can think of we have
within three miles of the site.
And, you know, one of the things I
do that, you know, of, and, you know,
that, you know, big corporation can't is, you
know, if you wanna learn Siemens and Rockwell
the same day, I can do that. Right?
The other thing is,
if you wanted to start at, like, twelve
noon because you wanna drive in, like, I've
had people drive in from Pennsylvania.
(07:41):
You know, if you wanna drive in from
some place that's four or five hours away,
we can start at twelve, 01:00
and then finish the next morning, right, or
do two or three days in a row.
We also not only have the physical trainers,
we also have factory IO. I'm a factory
IO reseller.
So if you blow through all those, we've
got even more. And trust me, you won't
finish all the factory IO in a day.
That's for sure. So in any case,
(08:02):
back to generation number
five
of,
CompactLogix.
And this is a '50 three eighty. Now,
again, I wanna I think it was Dean
yesterday
who said that the fifty three seventies, the
l twos and l threes, were just recently
marked as active mature. And at the time,
I was like, why would they do that?
But then I remembered, the micro 1,400
(08:23):
has been active mature for a long time.
So maybe maybe they'll still be around for
a long time. There there's really no low
capacity fifty three eighty. Right? And that's the
point I'm trying to get to here is,
they're they're expensive and they're high capacity. Right?
So, you know, you know, if you like,
to use a comparison,
there's no s seven twelve hundred version of
(08:43):
the CompactLogix
fifty three eighty. Right? So in any case,
you know, if you know anything about Siemens,
it's a twelve hundred and fifteen hundred program
with the same software, but the 12 hundred's
a little micro size PLC.
In any case, so,
this and I'm gonna tell you that that
this line has really just taken off for
those high performance needing
(09:04):
applications
with the dual giga gigabit. Now when it
first came out, you could not have two
separate IPs. But from the beginning,
they've always talked about the ability
that will that they will allow you to
have dual IPs. And I believe it was
version 19,
'29
19.
Version 29
that
(09:25):
came out,
with the dual IP support. And it was
so it was just a firmware flash.
So the the scan time
is, you know, much faster. Okay? And,
the core languages all execute with the same
performance. That's a big difference. And then screw
to screw performance
from, like, input to output,
they're much, much faster. The IO is the
(09:46):
backplane is just so much faster. Right? So,
I mean, not that it's a physical backplane,
but you know what I mean. Right? The
connection between the modules and the controller.
So in any case, let me make sure
here.
I don't wanna pass a slide here. Okay.
Because these look very similar. So if you
think about the fifty three eighty, 20%
increase
in capacity.
Right? So that means,
(10:07):
you know,
just generically,
20% more servos, 20% more memory, 20%
IO,
you know, 20 more you know, 20%
in most categories. Right? And you can see
here, 32 axes
that that this is all dependent on the
controller you buy and, 80 Ethernet IP nodes.
Right? So just think 80 drives or 80
(10:30):
racks of IO off of one controller. Pretty
cool.
Now
if you do a motion control,
of course, you want the m version. One
of my two are an m version, but
I don't have any of these beautiful looking
servos.
But, in any case, 32 drives in a
single controller.
Multiple cost update rates in advance. Now they
(10:50):
even have testing. You can actually test the
moves now,
or simulate them. I we when we had
Rockwell on the show, they talked about that.
Advanced tuning with the load observer and tracking
notch filter. I am not a motion guy,
so I I don't have any of that
stuff here. So,
but my motion people tell me that's really
(11:11):
cool stuff.
So in any case,
security,
you know, the control based change detection,
there's a bunch of stuff that people don't
realize this for years, though. Compact and ControlLogix
have been logging stuff to the nonvolatile memory.
So, that's been going on for years, and
now they're doing even more. So that's very
cool.
(11:32):
What do we have here? So the onboard
display now, this morning, early this morning, in
the wee hours of the morning, I was
trying to change the IP address on my
s seven fifteen hundred. Thank you, Siemens, for
sending that in. And, this is the one
I've showed you guys years ago. And, I
just went up to the screen and did
it like it was a micro 1,400, you
know, but in color. Right? So s m
1,500 has this gray screen. I'm not trying
(11:54):
to belittle the screen on the fifty three
eighty,
but, you know, we've had these on the
IO modules for a long time. And quite
honestly,
it's so two thousands.
Right? Or maybe 20.
But, in any case, I I would rather
have it than not have it,
but I should maybe maybe throw a little
ping out there to Rockwell. Take a look
at the competition. They are doing some awesome
(12:15):
things. In any case,
I did love the you know, comes with
the SD card still, switch the set of
key, which I'm I you know, at first,
I was
not a big fan of, but it's really
doesn't matter. U USB, perfect, like the fifty
three seventy.
Terminal blocks, I don't believe it comes with
the terminal blocks. You have to either buy
them either screw or or spring type.
(12:36):
So always make sure. That's why I always
tell people when you're buying rock, we'll always
use IAB,
integrated architecture builder. I've done many videos on
that in the past, and, it's in all
my courses. Probably have to do an update
for the courses soon because, you know, every
few years changes.
But in any case,
I really like it. And then this cover
here on the right hand side, unlike the
69 IO,
(12:57):
this is just a piece of plastic.
So I like that it's just inexpensive,
just a dust cover for the for the
terminals, which are live. Right? So very important
to have that on there. But and I
always thought this one was a little odd.
It supports up to 31 local IO modules.
So we've been 30 IO modules local for
so long. Right?
CompactLogic's
(13:17):
up to 30.
Slick 500 up to 30. Right? Here, they
got to 31.
I don't know why. It's just kinda, like,
funny. Maybe just because they could do it.
Right? What do you guys think? But in
any case, up to 31 local IO modules.
Very interesting.
And, of course, it supports all the now
this is what we kinda took a sneak
peek at yesterday,
(13:38):
and this is what I was saying. Hey.
It is truly high performance versus fifty three
seventy.
Now when the fifty three seventy came out,
we were like, wow. This is so much
better than the 50 well, than the l
three series. Right?
But in any case,
if we look at some of these thing,
of course, you get dual one gigabit, not
a 100 megabit, one gigabit
Ethernet ports. Right? That's pretty cool. Right? So
(14:01):
you can see there's a chart over here
that kinda goes through this. You know,
complex applications, high performance applications, you know, you're
gonna use the fifty three eighty.
K?
Communications
is now separated from control.
This is huge. Right?
So there's no more with the fifty three
eighty. Right?
(14:22):
There's no more what we call the, overhead.
20% of, you know, the communications overhead.
Yep. Previously, 20% of the control scan by
default was set for the, you know, overhead
time slice totally gone, eliminated.
This unit is now a quad core if
you haven't looked at the the, books on
it. So they just give a core to
that. I think we have a slide on
(14:43):
that. But, yeah, that is that's very cool.
Right?
So no system over head time slice. Now
if you've never run into that, you probably
never used one of the old contact logics
because maybe not so much with the fifty
three seventy. But back in the day, I
still remember when they went from 10% default
to 20% default
because, HMIs were having a hard time getting
(15:04):
all the data. You know, you have 20
HMIs going to a single PLC. They can
put a quite a load on that PLC.
Right?
PAC. I know. I know. Before everybody types
it in, I know Rocco caused their newest
generation PAC,
so does Schneider,
but not everybody does that. So PLC, PAC,
it's all vendor specific.
(15:24):
Okay. So program I actually had somebody tell
me once. PAC, is there anything that doesn't
isn't called PAC? It's old, old, old. And
I'm like like,
like, dude, you can get out more. Look
at some of the other vendors. They they
have every feature that your PAC has, but
they call them a PLC. So,
you know, it's marketing. Sometimes we just buy
into it. Like, it's not a tissue. It's
(15:45):
a Kleenex. Right? Well, that's life. Programming language
extension
and task switching enhancements. What I really wanna
show you here is how much faster. Right?
How much faster the, the fifty three eighty
is over the fifty three seventy. Not that
the fifty three seventy was bad, but look
at this. Here's your l three. Like, so
l three x. Right? We talked about l
35, l 32,
(16:06):
l 31, if you're unfortunate to get that.
Still here, a 168
for this program, hundred and sixty eight milliseconds.
L three, forty five, huge increase.
Fifty three eighty, nine.
Talk about fast. Yeah. Really fast. K. And
then the test switching time,
(16:26):
we used to say,
you know, budget a millisecond every time you
switch tasks.
Now we're down into the microseconds. Right? So
and, again, they're saying a hundred and sixty
five microseconds
for the, l 35 e. I don't that's
not the rule of thumb we were using,
but in any case, very interesting slides here.
(16:47):
Dual IP mode, we really already covered this
support for DLR.
You know, fifty three seventy had that too.
I think that was one of the big
things about the fifty three seventy having that
dual port switch in every unit was just
amazing.
So lower investment cost
with higher
performance. Now,
I would say,
space reduction for sure. Right? So look over
(17:09):
here.
So you could here you would need
the, let's say, the l 30 e r,
right, fifty three seventy three, PA four, and
ECR. So that's three items, but now the
power supply is built into the controller,
like the PLC twos.
And then, here you have the mini twos.
Right? LSP,
(17:29):
like, two sixteen with the built in power
supply.
In any case, then you have the l
three
ten e r. So you can see much
less space because everything's kinda built into one.
Because if you're
lucky enough to have the l four, you
save him even more space. Right?
So because that power supply was we already
saw earlier in the series. Right? Now as
(17:50):
far as cost,
I I'm I don't know.
I don't no. On the l four, yeah.
Sure. But was this, like, real cost, or
is this, like, inflated cost? I don't know.
So, and you know what? You I guess
you could pull up an old old price
list from ten years ago to see if
that changed, but we got better things to
do.
(18:12):
As you can see, full memory utilization. So,
you know, this is a big thing because
we used to say you can't use all
your memory.
Right? Don't use it all. You need may
need to save some for some firmware
or something else.
Not anymore. That's all stored somewhere else. So
you can actually use all your memory. Now
I would always save a little bit.
(18:32):
You never know. Right? But, in any case
yeah. We're not we're not you don't tell
people anymore, hey. Save 20% just in case
you have to add a new firmware,
and it gets a little bit bigger. And
you may say, well, I'll keep it at
version x forever, and then you may find
there's a bug in version x. You may
have to go to version x point two.
Right? So
but, yeah, that that is just another advantage.
(18:53):
You know, not only thing is this thing
really fast, but
now we can use all our memory for
program. It doesn't show you yeah. It's kinda
like you buy a computer, has a terabyte,
and then there's, like, 200 gigabytes worth of
spam built on the hard drive. It's like,
why do they do that to me? But
in any case,
so you do get the diagnostics. Right? That's
much better than the $53.70
(19:14):
and, the security with DigiSign.
Enhanced diagnostics and the web page. I don't
spend a lot of time in the web
pages, but it's there if you're having problems.
Here's where we talked about the memory, not
having to reserve 20% anymore.
You see message instructions, trans alarms, RS links,
online edits,
all that goes away.
(19:36):
K?
So here here's where they're recommending you kept
20% open,
and now you don't have to.
So you're really getting 20% more usable memory.
The the this this reminds me the way
the system's laid out reminds me of
no point I o in in some respect
because you have
the, these different buses here,
(19:57):
and you have the field power distributor blocks
so you can,
feed more power through. I don't know if
they're changing from AC to DC here. Those
kinda look like relay boards.
K. But in any case, let's go around
the easy identification.
Yeah. You know, now they these these are
the original look. They did they did stop
(20:18):
painting them black.
One of the reason I'm not a fan
of that because the black scratches off sometimes.
Not that you should be scratching your program
or controller,
but,
I kinda like the kinda beigey gray, the
light gray color.
But in any case, I don't know. You
guys like the would you like do you
like the controls about the new black look
with the hourglass,
(20:39):
or do you like it better as light
gray? I'll I'm a light gray guy. Both
my units here are like grays.
Hey. Maybe that's why I got deals on
them. Though they wanted the black version.
The DIN rail connections, I'm still not like,
the oh, well, the 60 nines is snapped
on. These, I'm kinda like, is that really
on there? But,
reduced space, this is true. One inch
(21:02):
of thermal clearance. That's big. You save because
I think the other ones were, like, two
and a half inches or two inches at
a minimum.
There is a vent triggers, instantaneous event triggers.
So that not everything could do an event
trigger in the CompactLogix.
There's very limited what you could do an
event trigger on.
The high speed backplane, that is true. If
(21:23):
you look at your RPIs, you can go
much faster.
Now
remember
filters. And so I had even wrote articles
on the blog about this. Yeah. Filters,
they had the of,
you know, trim off that noise, eliminate noise,
analog and digital.
And so,
you can have this high speed you know,
you can put a higher RPM there, but
if you have a filter in there, right,
(21:44):
then, you're not gonna see that kind of
speed.
Time stamping of inputs and scheduled outputs,
I haven't done anything with that. Alright. So
I think we covered all that.
K. So he has a ladder diagram, 13
times faster.
Structure text, 21 times faster. Function blocks, seven
and a half times faster.
(22:05):
Sequential function shot, 20 times faster. Very, very
cool.
K. So a 20 x improvement.
K.
So this is why this is why the
$53.80 came out. This is what it addresses.
It just makes it everything you can do
a lot more. You don't have to jump
right into the control logics
to get this high speed. Right?
(22:27):
Alright. What else do we got here? Ah,
yeah. See, I highlighted these.
Don't forget to order these. I need to
get an extra set myself.
You do get the MCAP, though. Thank goodness.
Imagine forgetting that.
K. Here's a closer
look. K.
See the ports on the bottom?
They're I wish they were a little closer,
(22:48):
and they're separated a little bit too. I
I really like the fifty three seventy
ports, but, you know, these have more functionality,
so maybe they need more spacing. Hey. You
could see your reset button.
Okay.
And USB port.
And there's your part numbers. They've added a
bunch of models since the this came out.
I'm sure,
(23:08):
there's no start energy. There's all these. I
think it there's so many more of these
now.
The m promotion.
K. What else we got? Zero to 60.
I'm not seeing any anything else there that's
interesting.
Okay. So that's kind of the summary slides.
So that's it for our tour of the
(23:30):
fifth
generation
CompactLogix,
the 5380.
Don't know if there's gonna be a 5390.
Probably. Right? But I don't know. We did
have Rockwell on talking about the l nine
or 5590.
Right? That, they're gonna be showing our automation
fee. Very excited for that. And,
you know, probably a year or two later,
they'll have a fifty three ninety. I'm wondering
(23:52):
if the reason they act and mature the
l two and l three is because
they're gonna have a fifty three ninety one,
like an l one that's actually a fifty
three ninety. Or maybe they'll do a fifty
three eighty l one. That would be very
cool. You know, that that smaller level, I
think, is you know, when it comes to
doing large systems, high performance, there's no no
problem with Logix. They've always been able to
(24:14):
do that, but they've always struggled on the
small the small end. And then the l
one was a great until it went from,
like, I don't know, $1,400,
$2,400.
It was a great small fit for small
OEMs now. You know? And everything's going up.
It's just incredible. I you know, the one
thing that I was checking that didn't go
up was,
or substantially, anyways,
(24:35):
was the starter pack for the micro eight
twenty. Now I know there's a new micro
eight twenty coming. I start referencing a couple
manuals. I didn't actually see it anywhere, and
I I I would love to get somebody
from Rockwell on to talk about it. Because,
you know, they upgraded the states the five
the,
was it? The August,
the August, and now it's August turn, and
I see it referenced in some manuals that
(24:55):
they're gonna update it. And I think they
add, like, the f one and some IO
support, Ethernet IO support.
They probably add on things too, but I
don't have any, so I haven't looked into
it.
But you can still get a a micro
eight twenty. According to proposal works updated last
week, you can still get that for around
$250.
And I was actually looking at an eight
ten. I'm trying to get that eight ten
(25:15):
input simulator to show it to my students,
but
they want about the same price for the
eight ten solder pack. So it's like, yeah,
I'll pass on that. I got a couple
of eight tens, and I don't use them
much. So in any case so with that,
you know what I should probably do
is just, first of all, I wanna invite
any vendors,
cuss, any users,
(25:36):
or any,
SIs out there, OEMs who wanna come on
to talk about well, if you're a user,
whether you're an SI or an end user,
talk about what you've learned
recently about products, automation products. Doesn't matter if
it's Allen Bradley, Siemens, whatever. You know? Love
to have you on. And then vendors, if
you want well, and also SIs, if you
wanna talk about your company and services you
(25:57):
provide. OEMs, if you wanna come on during
lunch, talk about the machines you build.
You know, I wanna use this lunchtime as
a way to just educate everybody,
you know, quickly, you know, during a half
an hour and, you know, I'll pass on
my information. But if you can pass on
yours and vendors, you get a cool new
product. You you you just wanna come on
and do a casual livestream. We still have
the automation podcast, which is kinda like that
(26:18):
sit down half hour, one hour, you know,
not recorded.
You know? I'm sorry. Not live. It's recorded
and edited. But, actually, I'm editing tomorrow's got
about half done. But in any case,
yeah. So just wanna invite you guys to
contact me. You can contact me on LinkedIn,
on YouTube.
Let me pull up the automation school again.
(26:41):
There's all kinds of contact links up here.
If you wanna know about training,
you can even book a presales meeting if
you wanna sit down and talk about some
options.
The automation blog, there is a contact link
up here. It's more of a generic contact
link, but, you know, you can contact me
that way as well.
And,
you know, don't forget if you want 20%
off any of the courses, $99 or more,
(27:02):
you know, these are buy once or forever.
Right? This is not $90 $9 a month
for $500 a year. Actually, you can get
almost all of my courses for $500 a
year. Not all of them, but a a
big bundle of them for that price.
So, let me see if I can go
back here. So with that, we are recording,
and I'm reaching out to people who know
stuff about old automation products for the Automation
(27:23):
Museum podcast. We did one with a gentleman
who actually wrote the book on Triconics,
and, we got that in the can. This
is something I'm doing on Sundays. It's totally
nonprofit for automationmuseum.org.
We're trying to raise money for it. And
we did another one last weekend for on
the PLC one and the PLC two from
Rockwell.
(27:43):
And, we talked about the PLC three
and got into the PLC five some as
well. And,
I've reached out to some folks who know
a lot about Cymax.
I reached out to folks. One of the
guys is reaching out the the founder of,
Wonderware,
one of the founders to have him come
on. So, I don't know when those will
start releasing, but they'll have their own like,
(28:04):
I gotta find an inexpensive way to do
this because this is off a charity, but,
they'll have it'll have its own podcast. I
won't be mixing it up with this one.
But it will still be out of my
YouTube channel until we actually get the Automation
Museum
funded. Right? So I'll just stick because what's
the sense of publishing it on YouTube if
you have no followers,
with a brand new channel? But in any
(28:24):
case so lots going on. I still got
the middle of Toledo and the other room
I'm working on and a lot of all
this stuff, but I am gonna let you
get back to what you have planned this
afternoon. I wanna make sure I'm done before
I hit that half hour mark. So I
wanna wish you all the CFM up to
date on the chat. Thank you, everybody who
chatted today. I wanna wish you all good
health and happiness. And until next time, my
friends,
(28:45):
peace.
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