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September 3, 2025 • 15 mins
Shawn discusses Module Discovery and Reading IO Config in today's episode of #AutomationTechTalk Lunchtime Edition livestream: Watch Automation Tech Talk on The Automation Blog: Listen to Automation Tech Talk on The Automation Blog: Automation Tech Talk Show Notes: Thanks for listening! If you'd like to join the show sometime, don't hesitate to use the contact us link. NOTE: There is no show planned for this Friday (9/5). Links mentioned in video: - Online Courses: https://theautomationschool.com - In-Person Courses: https://theautomationschool.com/live Read the transcript on The Automation Blog: (automatically generated) Shawn Tierney (Host): Happy Wednesday. Right? I was gonna say Tuesday. It's not Tuesday. It's Wednesday. I hope you're all doing good. I hope, my mic and video is coming out okay. Let me know in the chat if it's not. But in any case, I do want to, wish you all a great lunchtime here. And it is Wednesday, and, this is Automation Tech Talk lunchtime edition. And, feel free to chat in the, both on YouTube and on LinkedIn. And, of course, you'll always find the audio, the video, and the transcript up on the automationblog.com later in the day. Typically, right after the show's done, I try to get that all up there before going back to work. So in any case, today, I was gonna do one thing, and I decided to do something else. So, we're actually gonna take a look at discovering IO, automatically discovering IO so you don't have to crank in all those different part numbers. And, we're gonna do it today for Rockwell. And I did have some things that, I've been telling myself, Shawn, you gotta kinda remember to mention some things to everybody, when you're doing the show. So let me just pull my notes up here and bring them over to the screen right below here so I can read them. So, first of all, the idea for today's, discussion about discovering IO, adding IO, reading IO was, based on some lessons. I'm I actually had to I found some bugs in them, so I had to rerender them. So I'll be updating them, and, several of the courses over at the Automation School are getting updates, including my CompactLogics and ControlLogics. They're getting the most updates today. But in any case, I also wanted to mention that I already have two industry veterans who I'm talking to about coming on the Automation Museum's History of Automation podcast. And so I mentioned this because we already have three shows in the, in the can. We talked to experts about the history of Triconics, the history of InTouch or Wonderware, and the history of Rockwell PLCs. But, again, these are things where we want to have multiple guests on about each each product and, to share their own experiences with them. And, you know, everybody remembers things differently. Like, some people remember some features, other people remember other features, and so on. So, we have two new people who I'm talking to to get them to come on the show. And I wanna invite you, whether you're a vendor, user, integrated OEM, if you have done something with automation before the year February, I'm just using that as a kind of a benchmark. Right? So, you know, we're talking legacy stuff. We're not talking, you know, fifty three seventies and fifty three eighties or a '7 you know, fifteen hundreds or December, or m two sixty twos if you're a Snyder guy. But, we're talking we're talking, you know, older stuff, legacy stuff. The automation museum is not gonna be a museum of what just came out this this year. It's gonna be a museum of all that old stuff. And I wanna thank everybody who sent me stuff in. I will be doing more automation museum videos on the stuff you guys send in. I got a PCMK card. I got a net alert or or net net alert, I think, device too that I wanna show off. So, in any case, thank you everybody and, for that. So what else do I have to cover here before we get started? There is no podcast today.
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(00:00):
Happy Wednesday. Right? I was gonna say Tuesday.
It's not Tuesday. It's Wednesday. I hope you're
all doing good. I hope, my mic and
video is coming out okay. Let me know
in the chat if it's not. But in
any case, I do want to,
wish you all a great lunchtime here. And
it is Wednesday, and, this is Automation Tech
Talk lunchtime

(00:21):
edition.
And, feel free to chat in the, both
on YouTube and on LinkedIn.
And, of course, you'll always find the audio,
the video,
and the transcript
up on the automationblog.com
later in the day.
Typically, right after the show's done, I try
to get that all up there before going
back to work. So in any case,

(00:41):
today,
I was gonna do one thing, and I
decided to do something else. So,
we're actually gonna take a look at discovering
IO, automatically discovering IO so you don't have
to crank in all those different part numbers.
And, we're gonna do it today for Rockwell.
And I did have some things that, I've
been telling myself, Sean, you gotta kinda

(01:01):
remember to mention some things to everybody,
when you're doing the show. So let me
just pull my notes up here and bring
them
over to the screen
right below here so I can read them.
So, first of all, the idea for today's,
discussion about discovering IO, adding IO, reading IO
was, based on some lessons. I'm I actually

(01:22):
had to I found some bugs in them,
so I had to rerender them. So I'll
be updating them, and,
several of the courses over at the Automation
School are getting updates,
including my CompactLogics and ControlLogics. They're getting the
most updates today. But in any case,
I also wanted to mention that I already
have two industry veterans
who I'm talking to about coming on the

(01:43):
Automation Museum's History of Automation podcast.
And so I mentioned this because we already
have three shows in the,
in the can. We talked to experts about
the history of Triconics,
the history of InTouch or Wonderware, and the
history of Rockwell PLCs.
But, again, these are things where
we want to have multiple guests on about

(02:03):
each each product and, to share their own
experiences with them. And, you know, everybody remembers
things differently. Like, some people remember some features,
other people remember other features, and so on.
So, we have two new people who I'm
talking to to get them to come on
the show. And I wanna invite you, whether
you're a vendor, user, integrated OEM, if you
have done something with automation

(02:24):
before the year February,
I'm just using that as a kind of
a benchmark. Right? So, you know, we're talking
legacy stuff. We're not talking, you know, fifty
three seventies and fifty three eighties or a
'7 you know, fifteen hundreds or December,
or m two sixty twos if you're a
Snyder guy. But, we're talking we're talking,
you know, older stuff, legacy stuff. The automation

(02:45):
museum is not gonna be a museum of
what just came out this this year. It's
gonna be a museum of all that old
stuff. And I wanna thank everybody who sent
me stuff in. I will be doing more
automation museum videos
on the stuff you guys send in. I
got a PCMK card. I got a net
alert or or net net alert, I think,
device too that I wanna show off. So,
in any case, thank you everybody

(03:06):
and, for that. So what else do I
have to cover here before we get started?
There is no podcast today.
The next podcast it takes, like, a day
to produce every podcast. So,
I'm taking this week off because I just
got so much other else going on.
The the next podcast will be next Wednesday,
of course, we release on Wednesdays, and that'll
be on IO Link. And that's gonna kick

(03:26):
off a bunch of IO Link coverage.
So, I've been working after hours and weekends
getting all the IO Link hardware I have
together built into demos that we can not
only use as labs here in the office,
but also to do videos on. So, we
got Siemens, we got Rockwell, we got IFM,
Even had a a good friend of the
show send in some stuff, so we'll be

(03:47):
looking at the stuff he sent in too,
which just depends if I can get it
working at 05:00 in the morning. We're not
drinking my coffee, but, hopefully, I can.
And, also, I'm looking at some really cool
three d simulation software I wanna use in
the school, but it can also be used
as a digital twin, and it's affordable. It's
not like the 10,000, $50,000
packages you see out there. Right? So, I'm

(04:08):
actually been working on that, working with the
vendor on that after hours as well.
And a lot of things going on. We
are getting ready. I just got off the
phone with the vendor, actually off a meeting
with the vendor. We got a exciting new,
episode coming up on, OPC.
And then we have another episode coming up
on Ethernet push buttons. This one actually was
re
requested. We actually have the equipment here, but

(04:31):
we're waiting for the vendor to schedule that.
I'm also guys, you probably remember the, military
trade shows demo I have in there. I'm
just gonna work through a couple of bugs,
and that should be that video should be
coming out. And, I actually have a major
vendor approached me and said, Sean,
come and interview our folks
at our trade show. And so we're finalizing
the details on that. So that'll be in

(04:52):
several weeks from now, but I did wanna
share that with you guys. So in any
case, hey. Before I forget too, and I
wanna say greetings to Nicholas. Before I forget,
anybody,
any of you guys out there, if you've
learned something you wanna share with the rest
of the community, please
just send me a message. I know we
had people sign up, and then they couldn't
make a customer's call, the boss calls. I
totally get that. Totally get that. But if

(05:14):
you are using I saw one person said
he was he had created a video showing
people how to use safety in a Siemens
drive, and he got a lot of really,
good feedback from it. I mean, those are
the type of things. You know, a lot
of you probably don't even know what that
video is. Right? So we wanna get people
like that on the show to talk about,
you know, what they've done and and sharing,
useful tips. And I think it'll be easier,

(05:37):
on the audience if they're not always hearing
from me all the time because I've been
doing this for
full time now for over ten years, going
on eleven years. And, so you guys you
know, I got thousands of videos in Ako,
so you guys know all about me. But
in any case, let's go ahead and go
over to the computer. And, again, feel free
to,
chime in on the chat. Let's see if
I have everything set up here correctly.

(05:57):
I think I'm in the top right. So,
of course, this is a live thing right
over my face, but that's okay. I don't
think you guys see that. So in any
case, what are we gonna look at? We
did not wanna see my desktop. We wanted
to see
VMware. Okay. And I'm actually in,
and if you guys didn't notice here on
the,
workbench, I have an old Suck 500 full

(06:17):
of stuff, just full of IO. And I
try to pick up so many different types
of IO modules for my course, which I'm
filming now in the slick 500.
So I wanted to pick up a a
a real, you know, assortment of of IO
cards. You know? And I could go in
there and I could say, you know, let
me type in each and every model. But
one of the great things we got with
the slick 500 that we didn't have with

(06:37):
the PLC five, now correct me if you
think I'm wrong,
but I don't think there's any redial thing
on the PLC five. Maybe I'm just having
a senior moment, but I don't think it
existed. But in the slick 500, it did.
And this also worked for the compact for
the, Micrologics as well. And so what you
could do here in this old platform from
the nineties, early nineties, late eighties, is you

(06:59):
could go across RSLogix 500 didn't come out
until,
like, 9596.
Right? I was actually I beta tested it.
It was really cool.
When it first came out, it was like
Winlogix five on steroids. Right? So in any
case,
what I'm gonna do here is I got
I got Studio 5000 open in the background.
Let me hide that a little bit. I'm
gonna go to IO configuration,

(07:21):
and I'm gonna do something called a read
IO config.
K. This is, again,
a feature from the nineties, early nineties. Right?
And what's what's this work?
Right? Now I do have to have the
path to the PLC correct or I can't
read IO config, but I'm just I'm not
online, but I'm giving it the path to
where the PLC exists.
Read IO config and look at that.

(07:42):
It started off with a four slot chassis,
and it was like oops. Let me minimize
that. Get that back. And it was like,
nope. He has a 13 slot, I guess.
And look at it. I have an IB,
ITB, IB, IB, IV, IV, IV 32,
OBOV,
NI 4, NI 4, NI
four, I, NI four, I, NI four, INO4I,

(08:02):
blah blah blah. But look at it. I
read it all in. I didn't have to
type that all in. Now how often are
you gonna have all the equipment on your
desk before you actually
create your program? Well, maybe not that often.
But this was a feature I loved about
the Slic 500
and the MicroLogix.
And, you know, so when Rocco came out
with ControlLogix and CompactLogix and it did not

(08:22):
have this it this feature,
everybody's kinda like, bummer.
That kinda stinks.
Right?
And so but they added it. They added
it inversion starting back in version 20.011.
Yes. I looked it up.
And, what they did, though, is they only
added it for, originally, seventeen fifty six modules.

(08:43):
And so that left all the CompactLogix
people just kinda hanging out there with no
way to find their modules. And so what
would happen is so here's an on the
left hand side, I got a, an l
33 e r that both these PLCs are
in the other room, in the training room.
And if I right click on the bus,
the seventeen sixty nine bus, and do discover

(09:04):
IO modules,
yeah, it can. It's not as good as
the SLIC 500.
So sad.
No. And we know that it knows. Right?
How do we know that it knows? Because
in Arislynx,
we can go out there,
and we can see
everything that's in that chassis. Of course,

(09:24):
I can't see it here because I have
an EDS issue.
K?
So if I could upload the EDS file,
but I have a problem here. But typically,
if you didn't have the problem I have
now, you would be able to expand expand
the backplane and see all the IO modules
out there. And, yeah, see, this is when
things happen when you just, like, come on

(09:44):
to lunch and you're like, yeah. Let's just
do a show and, you know, we could
try to should we try to register the
EDS file? Should we try to do this
live?
I think it's,
it's somewhere here. Right? I know it's in
where's the EDS? Well, probably easy to go
here.
Alright. So let's close that one now. Let's
do tools.

(10:06):
EDS I don't even know if I have
it on this hard drive, do I? No.
Well, we'll take a little side trip here.
Let's see if the EDS tool launches. Here
it is.
Okay.
Let's see. Register. Let's register
a,
folder
directory.
Look in subfolder. Sure.
Where would it be?

(10:28):
Where would I have put it?
Alright. I don't even know if I have
them. Nah. Alright. So forget that. But in
any case, if everything was working, we would
be able to see all the modules on
the backplane. Just like on the l 16
I have plugged in, right, you would be
able to see any point IO modules I
have on that. Right? And that is just
the way it works. And a little secret

(10:49):
here
is I believe
that the backplane on both PointIO
and on seven sixty nine seventeen sixty nine
is actually based on
DeviceNet.
So we always get all the information. We
could see all the modules,
and that's a great thing. But, apparently, they
couldn't figure out how to get it into
the software. I mean, I'm assuming it wasn't

(11:09):
a commercial decision not to add it into
the software. I'm sure it was a technical
decision,
but with the l 30, the 53.
Right? So
much newer than the sec five hundreds. They
just couldn't get that that Discover modules to
work.
So very sad. So maybe maybe they could
get it to work, but they couldn't get
it to add it online. I don't know.

(11:30):
But here's the good news. If you have
gone to the,
to the newer, right, to the fifty three
eighties, if I right click on backplane and
do discover modules,
yes. Okay. It's like, are you not gonna
work? What's going on? But any case, yes,
we're as good as the slick 500 from
1990. Woo hoo. But, and this works for

(11:52):
1756
as well.
Originally, it was just for 1756,
and I think the PowerFlex drives.
I went to grab the latest release notes,
and every time I say give me release
notes from version
21 to '30 seven, it just crashes my
browser. So in any case, I didn't have
again, this is automation tech talk lunchtime edition,

(12:14):
so I get my entire lunch to prepare
for this. So, I didn't couldn't go any
farther than that, but pretty confident,
that it's, seventeen fifty six, fifty sixty nine,
and
of PowerFlex drives. I could not confirm whether
or not Flex 5,000 supports it or any
of the servos support it. And if anybody
wants to shoot me out, I did I

(12:34):
did search the knowledge base. So, you know,
if anybody, thinks I missed something, let me
know. But I think there's not a very
wide,
support on that. But, now I can go
ahead and create typically, you just create them
all. You know?
And
because this is
not full screen,
it does give you a warning about adding

(12:55):
modules online.
And let me pull this over here so
you can see it added it right there.
And so this is I actually I did
a new lessons on this for both ControlLogix
and CompactLogix
as part of another lesson where I'm adding
IO and testing IO and all that good
stuff. But in any case, I wanted to
do everything in the version 31 plus
because I know,

(13:17):
we had some, students who I think I
mentioned this yesterday, who've never used version 30.
You know? They're they're they're lucky. They've been
sheltered, only used 31 plus. So,
you know, when they don't see this blue
background, they would get a little, little disconcerted.
But in any case so that's what I
wanted to talk about today at lunchtime,
and I wanna thank you guys for tuning

(13:38):
in.
I'm just looking at the list of stuff
I covered at the beginning of the show.
I don't think I have anything else left.
Again, being the lunchtime
show,
there's not a whole lot of prep that
can go into this. But in any case,
we do have another,
message in the chat that I wanna say.

(14:00):
Person's asking about the BRX, the BRX system,
and he has two servo drives. I don't
have any movies on the any videos on
the BRX. I've only done an unboxing on
it. I have
tried to get the AutomationDirect folks on many,
many times. I think they're a great company.
Again, I know Siemens and Rocco guys and
scenario guys are probably rolling their eyes,

(14:20):
but, you know, they're they're you know, just
like just because you like Honda or BMW
or, you know, Chevy doesn't mean you should
pooh pooh Dodge or
or any any other, you know, or Acura
or somebody at some other, you know, Nissan
or some other company. So there you know,
these companies have been around for a long
time, so they they gotta be doing something
right. In any case so, yeah, sorry. I

(14:41):
won't be able to help you with your
BRX. I don't have a quest on the
any of the automation direct stuff. Not that
I don't want to. It's just timing and
market.
Right? So when you're self employed, you gotta
do everything you can to keep the lights
on. And with that, I gotta get back
to work. So I wanna wish you all
I hope you enjoyed today's show. I wanna
thank you for joining in with me. Please
reach out to me if you wanna come
on and share your expertise with the audience,

(15:01):
and, just wanna wish you all good health
and happiness.
And until next time, my friends,
peace.
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