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Happy Tuesday, everybody, and happy,
September. It is September now,
the second, and, please let me know if
the video or audio is not working, but
everything's looking great. I can actually get the,
streaming out over here on the right. And,
I was hoping to have a guest come
on the show today. We were all set
up. There was actually one that was, rescheduled,
and,
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no guests. Now it could be a problem
with StreamYard because I have seen the delay
when somebody tries to join as a guest
and when they actually show up in my
in my web browser. I've, like, refreshed a
100 times, so I don't know what else
to do. But in any case, I still
have something that I was just working on
for my students that I figured we could
talk about since the guest is not connected.
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So and I was really looking forward to
having a Julio on to talk about his
company
because it just sounded really interesting. But in
any case,
I don't see anything in the chat. So
let me go ahead and switch over to
this view. Now
I've had
many people,
actually, I shouldn't say many people. I had
one person I was talking to about two
weeks ago, and they said, you know, Sean,
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I was taking one of your courses, and
I didn't recognize
I didn't recognize Studio five thousand. I'm like,
what do you mean? He's like, it looked
totally different. And I'm like, well, that's not
good. And so I'm going back, and I'm
like, I think I know what happened. So
some people work with only new products. Right?
So they're only using the latest and the
greatest version of the software, and I'm like,
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wow. You know, that that that's not me.
I've been using
RS logic since beta. Right? And so I'm
like, wow. So some people make it that,
you know, look and feel shock
when they, when they, use the latest version
and then go back a few versions. So
I thought, you know, I did an update
a lesson. I just rendered it for my
students, and I figured we hey. Since we
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had a new show,
again, he could still connect if he wanted
to, but I figured, hey. Let's cover that.
We'll call this,
Studio 5,000 Logix Designer
version 30 versus versus 31.
And so what I wanna show you here
is I actually have version 10. Now to
save time, I typically will will often not
install
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one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
nine. Right? And so and some of those
versions don't exist. Right? So in any case,
so this is what,
Studio 5,000
Logix designer,
a k a RS Logix 5,000, if you
didn't know. This is what it looks like,
brand new program. This is what it looked
like the version
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10.
10 is the first version that supported
multi,
multiple installs or what they call side by
side installations where you can install ten and
eleven and twelve and thirteen and fifteen and
sixteen and seventeen and eighteen and so on.
Before that, you can only install one, kinda
like everything else that's come before it. Like,
you can only have and and you guys
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correct me if I'm wrong, but, typically, you
can only have one copy of Microsoft Word
installed
or one copy of, you know, most any
application, Excel or Premiere Pro or whatever you're
using. You can't have two installed at the
same time. It's kinda annoying, but
because Logix is has to be lockstep. In
other words, you have version, let's say, a
version 16 in your controller. You have to
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have version 16 to program that controller, unless
you wanna upgrade the firmware, which why would
you wanna do that? It's long. It's complicated.
No reason to. Right? And so I like
this idea of side by side installations,
And, people used to complain a lot when
it first came out
that it could take
500 megabytes
to install a new version
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because it's a lot more now. But but
with hard drives so big, like a terabyte,
two terabytes, three terabytes,
you know, what's the big deal? Right? So
in any case, rather have the feature
because you only have to install the versions
you're working on. Right? If you have sixteen,
twenty, and, you know, 34, those are the
only three versions you need to install.
So in any case, here we are.
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To me, this looks like RS Logix 5,000.
Let's compare it to version 20.
Okay. Well, this is this version 20 is
for my course.
Okay. If you could see this, they look
pretty similar.
Okay. Except I got extra routines here, but
look at look at the look and feel
pretty much the same version 10.
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Right? You see there's extra stuff in there.
Some things have been renamed.
Okay. If you look at the toolbars,
very similar. I know on the above one,
I went, I went and did this, so
I didn't show you that.
You can see the path. I don't know
why it's up there now. It used to
be down here.
But yeah. So version 10
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and version 20 were looking
very, very similar. Right? And so now
let me go ahead and migrate this to
version 30.
And, I'd love to hear your thoughts and
ideas on all this.
Okay. Version 30. Of course, it can't be
an l one if it's a version. Notice
that's one thing this the old versions. Right?
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So let me change because you used to
be able to do the version in the
controller
as two separate steps. Right?
Okay. So see, this will only go up
to 63 because it's version 10.
So let's let's see what happens. Let's just
try. We're just experimenting
live on the ear here because we had
a, a guest not show up.
So let's see let's see what happens. And
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it could crash. That's okay. It's just the
lunchtime edition of automation tech talk. If you
guys have questions or thoughts or ideas, things
you wanna share, please, post them in the
comments.
Unfortunately, today, because I'm in the classroom working
on new lessons for my students, I do
have to go and get back to the
METTLEDO,
the episodes I'm filming. I ran into a
little glitch with that, so I gotta do
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some research. But,
in any case also, I was playing with
some IO link early this morning over coffee.
So it's gonna go from l 71
from an l one to an l 71.
Sure. That's great.
I get an l 73. You can't see
it's off the screen here, but I have
an L73
my L73
s
back here.
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I was just, had the camera. I had
to pull it over because I had the
camera up to it to,
you know, the to show the I wanted
to show the analog testing the analog and
digital out. So in the trainer,
as opposed to in the in the, you
know, what it would look like in the,
classroom. So we get a warning here. Let
me switch back. I I know I often
forget to do that. There's no control room.
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It's just me.
I'm doing it all. But in any
case, so
we'll convert that. So we we just established
here so far that version 10 or version
20, they pretty much look almost identical. Right?
So that's good. That's good. So if you're
using 10 or 20, you're feeling pretty good.
Again, minor minor differences here and there.
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But let's go ahead. I wanna make sure
I open the same one. Okay. Now let's
take a look at version 30. Okay?
Still looking pretty much the same again. These
these are two different programs and not the
same programs.
One big thing you'll notice here I know
this throws some people. I don't know why.
Program tags were renamed
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parameter and local tags, and it's much better
because now you can use what used to
be program tags in other locations in your
code,
you know, which is great because you can
make them parameters, like, in our parameters. Right?
And local tags, of course, would be very
much similar to what program tags were.
And it's all good.
You know,
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version I mean, looks similar. Right? This is
30.
This is version 30.
Okay. Let's look at the toolbars. Right?
Everything you know, slight coloring differences, I think.
Yeah.
Right?
So thirty,
twenty, and 10, they all look really practically
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identical.
So now let's compare 30 to 31.
Boom. Oh, well, this is actually 34, but
this you you won't see a difference between
thirty one and thirty four. And this is
where Rocco did a graphical,
refresh with 31.
And now look at all these icons. They're
all, like, kinda new looking and fancy
versus the old icons. Again, two different programs.
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One thing that is different, kind of a
major difference is this assets folder.
So if you're in 31 and up, you're
gonna have an assets folder, which that stuff
you should just be
all here in the main tree. Right?
So,
yeah, it looks a lot newer. Right? You
can see instead of gray, it's kind of
this dark blue.
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K.
You see that?
Get rid of the arrow windows.
I should just close them.
But the toolbar is a lot different as
well if you look at the toolbar.
K. So one thing that gets me is
I've been going here for well, since the
product came out in the late nineties for
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controller properties.
Now it's over here, and it's smaller.
I'm getting older. It's out of the sea
yet. So in any case, I I, that's
one thing I don't like that they did.
But, hey. You know, they may have a
good reason for it. Also,
these drop downs here are now over here.
Look at that.
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Interesting,
Except for,
you know,
all these lights now move to the left.
K. The biggest one gets me is control
properties, and the other one is
verify project or verify controller.
Verify
used to be pretty easy to see. Now
it kinda looks like controller properties.
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It's like, well, not as not as I
don't think as clear to see as the
guy was.
But, yeah, if you look at,
you know, you get the path toolbar. Used
to be up here. Now it's down in
here.
Right? And a lot of things are smaller.
But overall,
you know, I I was a little struggling
for them to say when they said, hey.
This looks totally different. I'm like,
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does it really?
I mean, it looks refreshed,
like a Windows 10 to 11 type thing,
But I was like, oh, I don't I
don't know. Yeah.
The main program,
main routine.
You know? Well, everything has the same names.
So in any case,
That is, those were my thoughts. What do
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you guys think? Does it does it,
you know, if you've only programmed in this,
do you think going back to this would
be like, wow,
different software? Or we'd be like, no. That
just looks like an older version.
But, in any case, I wanted to kinda
walk through that with you because I've had
some people, at least definitely one person who
said a student of mine said, hey. We
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only use the new stuff. He didn't say
this, but it turned out that he they
only used the new stuff, 31 and up.
And he's like, hey.
I'm like, well, you know, they're I'm trying
to teach people who are using one through
37.
And so one through 30 all look the
same and then 31 and up. So but
that's what I was just doing now. I
was adding more lessons to the courses to
kinda show both of them. And so if
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you're in my compact, the ControlLogist course, you'll
see those new lessons show up, soon, if
not today, tomorrow.
But, also adding new lessons, some new analog
lessons, testing them with the trainers here in
the office versus the, the trainer I use
in the course just to kinda give you,
like, a this versus that look. And, you
know, of course doing it with the new
software as well since, version 31 did not
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exist when I filmed the course. Right?
So in any case, that's it. That's all
I had,
because it was kinda like a last minute
replacement.
And, talk about what's coming out this week.
No podcast this week. We will be doing
I do plan to be back here tomorrow
and Thursday,
to do lunchtime. No. I won't be doing
a lunchtime show on Friday.
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We have, we're working on new videos on
the METTLATOLEDO,
I n d three sixty.
I, excited to, excited to work with people
like,
Software Toolbox and Schneider on some other videos.
And, I get some, videos coming out on
IO Link that I've been working on. Next
week's podcast will be IO Link.
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Again, with the experts on it, the actual
company that's in charge of marketing it,
and, and certified in products and all that.
So,
will be that'll come out next week, and
I wanna have some IO content ready for
that. So I, spent the weekend building some
IO Link demos,
and so look forward to, look forward to
showing you that.
And, with that, I since there's nothing in
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the chat, and that gentleman never popped up
in my interface here, I'm just gonna call
a lunchtime show a little early, thirteen minutes,
but I do wanna wish you all good
health and happiness. If you have any questions
about anything I'm doing on, YouTube, on the
blog, or at the school, just reach out
to me. There's content with contact links everywhere.
And, of course, you can contact me on
LinkedIn as well. And, I do wanna throw
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a shout out to anybody who wants to
come on the show, or if you're a
vendor or you're end user, OEM integrator, you
wanna come on and and just see us
something you learned,
please reach out to me. And with that,
I wanna wish you all, again, good health
and happiness. And until next time, my friends,
peace.