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Hello Clarice, welcome back or welcome to Autopsy of a Crime.
Today's episode is a little different than the usual cases
we cover here. This story doesn't contain a
murder or a clear cut answer. While this is different than our
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usual cases we cover, I think it's a story worth telling.
A story that perhaps has identity theft, pedophilia, and
and potentially a family's long hidden secret of incest.
This story is about Brigitte andEmmanuel Mccrone, France's
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president and first lady. I want you to imagine this.
You're a journalist. You're captivated by your
serving First Lady and you want to do a piece on her, her
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childhood, where she comes from and how she rose to power, and
the extremely fashionable life she now has.
However, when you're working on this piece, you are summoned to
the LZA Palace. If you're American, it's the
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equivalent of the White House security and other officials
question you. They want to know what you're
intending to say about the Firstlady and why you're doing this
piece at all. As unusual as it sounds, it's
exactly what happens to a journalist who wanted to do a
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piece on France's First lady andmany journalists after that.
Over several years, any journalist who wanted to do a
piece on the first lady seemingly hit a wall, a black
hole. Her childhood and young adult
life was a blackout. They were hounded by questions
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from the palace, received legal threats to hush their words.
And we aren't speaking about just Joe Blow, independent
journalist. We were talking about accredited
people, some even with very large media companies.
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So let's rewind a bit. Brigitte and Emmanuel Macron are
France's current sitting president and first lady.
As they rose through society andeventually landed in their
current roles, a romantic love story was told about the couple
throughout France's media. How they met and they fell in
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love. A story of a woman, then 39
years old, raised by chocolate tears, meeting a then 17 year
old Emmanuel Macron and their connection and undiable, you
know, just undiably, undeniably being drawn to one another
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despite the large age gap, eventually getting together and
becoming a France power couple. A love story for the ages.
Much of the information we now have is due to great effort and
sacrifices by a France journalist named Xavier Poussard
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and Natasha Ray. Natasha is one of those people
that I referenced earlier who hit a wall when looking into the
First Lady. Natasha was even jailed at one
point. All of their work has now been
combined and extensively coveredby Candace Owens.
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So by now you may be asking yourself, why is there so much
secrecy? Why are there no photos of
Brigitte from her childhood or her younger years?
Why are we here? The answer is layered.
First, Brigitte Mccrone was Emmanuel Mccrone's teacher.
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That's how they met Salacious. However, even bigger.
Emmanuel Mccrone, it turns out, was not 17.
He was 15, which was admitted inFrance Press.
However, the research done by Xavier Broussard suggests that
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Brigitte was 46 and Emmanuel was14.
However, that is the tip of thisiceberg.
The biggest revelation is that it is believed Brigitte Mccrone,
the First Lady, is perhaps not alady at all.
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Based on research photos and many other items obtained over
years of investigative journalism, it would appear that
allegedly Brigitte Mccrone was born a male named Jean Michel
Tregnell. As questions arose about
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Brigitte, a family photo was conveniently released depicting
what was said to be her and her family, and her shown sitting on
her mom's lap as a little girl. However, when some looked at
this photo, they couldn't help but notice a little boy all the
way to the left who had never been mentioned before.
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Although Brigitte's family had been covered quite extensively
and the facial structure of thislittle boy was uncanny and
similarity to that of Brigitte. Brigitte, who was married prior
to Emmanuel and had mothered three children.
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However, her previous husband seemingly disappeared after
their divorce. No records, no photos, and
apparently no job at the large bank He was said to have worked
at overtime while questions werebeing asked.
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The news is broken by Brigitte'sdaughter Tafon that her father
actually has passed away and he's already been buried.
However, records would indicate this man did not die on the date
that Brigitte's daughter said, and in fact was cremated instead
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of being buried. I guess 1 could mix up when
their father passed away and hisburial.
I guess that happens. There's countless things about
this that stuck with me as I watched Candace Owens series
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Becoming Brigitte. I initially turned this episode
in for background noise while I was doing something else, and
then I was sucked into this and I could not look away.
Strange, strange things such as journalists who oddly died while
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looking into the couple. An undeniable pedophilia that
seems to follow this couple withthe people, business
professionals, friends that theysurround themselves within their
inner circle. Many people close to the couple
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are clouded in accusations of pedophilia or have even faced
charges. In a presidential portrait of
Emmanuel Macron, there is a bookpictured in the background.
It is by an author who is an admitted pederast, which if
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you're not familiar because I wasn't if someone who is
attracted to underage boys, apparently a pedophile that you
can be attracted to a boy or a girl I guess as long as they're
underage. A pederast is very specific and
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only attracted to young boys. A book by this man was in the
background of President EmmanuelMacron's portrait.
Then we have the legal letters. Candace Owens has shared what
she received. Please do your own research.
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Look it up. It's in her series.
She reads every line if you're interested.
Their legal team nitpicks strange, seemingly irrelevant
things such as you said, this photo was recolored.
It wasn't. Instead of the bigger question
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or accusation of was Brigitte born a man?
And I want to be very clear, my interest in this story, what
have you and my problem has nothing to do with the fact that
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Brigitte may have been born a man.
It is all of the other circumstances.
It is the cloud of what seems tobe lies.
It is the intentional misdirection of the public.
This is a president and a first lady.
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There is no transparency and many of these accusations could
easily be shut down. Very simple questions.
Candace Owens includes in her Series A list of 21 questions
that was sent back to the Macrones legal team.
Simple, straightforward questions such as was Brigitte
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Mccrone born a biological male? Did Brigitte Mccrone physically
give birth to three children? There's no response.
Umm, there's at least one defamation suit that has been
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won. But again, it was not about
whether Brigitte was born a man.It was about something entirely
different. A very small part of the story
that a journalist mistold one small detail that was gotten
wrong and therefore she was suedfor defamation and she lost the
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the palace or the Macrones one because there was one detail
that that journalist got incorrect.
And then we have a man hand selected to be chief of staff
for Emmanuel Macron. He was caught impersonating a
police officer on video in police uniform and assaulting
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protesters in the street. And while he was eventually let
go, he still holds ties close with the Macrons.
And then we have Olivier Dumos. Sorry if I mispronounce any of
these names. This man is quite close to the
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couple. He's a powerful man.
We are talking the elite of the elite.
His stepdaughter wrote and released a book.
And in this book, she publicly accused her stepfather of
sexually abusing her twin brother when they were children
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13 or 14 years old. And in mid-april of that same
year of his stepdaughter's book release, Olivia Dumos admitted
that it was true. And conveniently, the statue of
limitations had expired. Isabella Ferreira, an
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independent journalist who begandigging into this couple and all
of the bizarre seeming circumstances that surround
them. She was found floating in a
river. This was dubbed a suicide.
However, her friends are adamantthat she was not suicidal.
It's all bizarre now. Questionable without a doubt.
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This seems to be possibly the worst luck ever that people
around them face such accusations.
Not one, but multiple people. It's also important to mention
that Xavier Persard, who is adamant that Brigitte Mccrone
was born a man, stole his littlesister's identity, and worked
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her way into an old money power,has never been sued.
He has never been sued for defamation or anything else
relating to his work on the president and first lady.
Now, are you curious why this may be the first time you're
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hearing of all of this? I was, as I said, and I watched
Candace Owens series. I couldn't believe what I was
hearing. What?
Surely this isn't true. But then there's photos and
there's documents and there's proof, and she's received a
legal letter. Why in the world is this not on
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the cover of every possible magazine and media outlet?
Now, some may call this crazy conspiracy theories.
Others may say that it's becausethe mainstream media is owned by
the elites. Even crazier, while many may
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believe Brigitte Mccrone was born Jean Michel Tragneau, I
want to say that Emmanuel's nameis Emmanuel Jean Michel Mccrone.
Now I'm not sure if this is a common name across the pond, but
it's quite the coincidence. Another another coincidence of
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many. Looking into Emmanuel's history,
his childhood is seemingly a black hole as well.
It seems he was raised primarilyby his grandmother who had a
liking and or love admiration for pedophilic authors.
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Reading these books cozied at his grandmother's home, he has
shared all of his adoring memories with his grandmother
while his mother was a Doctor Who notably made strides within
the transgender community and provided resources for those
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transitioning. One of those people, someone who
went by the name Veronique, was featured on a talk show and she
praised Emmanuel's mother's work, stating when asked if she
lived alone that she lived with a woman.
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And she went on and and within this interview mentions authors
who coincidentally down the roadturn out to be authors who are
also important to Brigitte and Emmanuel.
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Now, through Xavier Poussard's work, he also found that prior
to transitioning, Jean Michel Tregneau lived with and
eventually married a woman namedVeronique.
The witness to this wedding? Brigitte Tregneau.
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Another amazing coincidence. Just coincidences.
Don't look over here. The couple then has a child
named Jean Jacques Tregneau. And then a daughter named
Valerie. There is a photo of Jean Jacques
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and my our whoever, our lying eyes, Jean Jack's face and his
facial structure, his features. Compared to Emmanuel Macron,
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they're hard to ignore. Later on, the couple divorces
and Veronique goes on to marry another man who is perhaps of a
much higher caliber than her previous husband and life.
Xavier Presard was able to find and contact Veronique, who did
respond when asked about all of the claims and Xavier's beliefs.
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Veronique seems to not know whatis going on, but then states
that she had seen a YouTube video where someone made a
family tree suggesting that she may be the mother of Emmanuel
Macron. She says she can indeed say that
Jean Michel Tragneau is not Brigitte.
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She has then asked for photos ofher shared life with John
Michelle, to which she replies Brigitte told me not to get
involved. Brigitte who would allegedly be
her ex sister-in-law. Then we have Mimi Marshall who
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perhaps deserved a more notable mention before now.
Nonetheless, here we are. Mimi is the PR person that you
want in France. She has been considered a Pope S
of France media NPR. Apparently she runs the media.
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She can have anyone painted in any light.
She at one time had a very closerelationship it seemed with the
president and the First Lady, which is curious as some lovely
media pieces went out about Perjit and romanticized her
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meeting the now president and how their love story unfolded.
Even though he was 14 and she was 39.
They just they were drawn to oneanother and they had to be
together. As bad luck would have it, Mimi
has faced some allegations of her own fraud, forgery,
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etcetera, etcetera. Eventually, Brigitte and
Emmanuel separate themselves from Mimi, and some perhaps
would say that this was not to Mimi's liking because shortly
after an article, a spotting of Brigitte is in the media
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picturing Brigitte leaving a doctor's office.
And it would seem that this really upset Brigitte, which is
odd because she's been photographed many times.
I believe she had been photographed similarly leaving a
doctor's office before. And while the doctor is not
named, a quote that this doctor says often is in the article.
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So with a little research, this quote leads to a Doctor Who
specializes in surgeries. That's this transitioning
people. He performed surgeries to create
more feminine features, feminineappearances.
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Again, it's just such a a crazy coincidence.
So what is this? Is it all just strange
happenstance, a love story, and crazy conspiracy theories fueled
by political interest? Or is this a story expertly
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crafted by the best of the best and sold to cover up elite
pedophiles and family secrets? Is Burgitte really Jean Michel,
And if so, where is the real Brigitte Tregnell, his little
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sister? Because no one seems to know.
Are Brigitte's three children truly her children, or could
they perhaps be nieces and nephews?
Her daughter Tafon, based on Xavier Poussard's work, believes
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that she is Brigitte's niece. Did this couple mistakenly make
friends with criminals and pedophiles over and over?
Or do birds of a feather flock together?
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And the biggest of all, did the couple meet when Brigitte was a
teacher or is Emmanuelle in facther son from another life when
she was a man named Jean Michel?People who pose these questions
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are hit with legal letters, jailed, labeled anti trans and
anti-Semitic. They seem to be very simple
questions, simple questions thatcould be answered point blank
and this would seemingly die in the water.
Which by the way, has been done.As I mentioned, Candace Owens
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sent 21 very specific simple questions and they were never
responded to. So sit with all of this.
It's a rabbit hole I never expected to find myself in.
If you're now down the hole withme, welcome and I'm sorry
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because I can't stop thinking about this.
Photos and source links will be on sub stack for this episode.
Do your own research. Please Watch Candace Owens's
series Becoming Brigitte on YouTube if you're a fan of House
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and Habit. Jessica Reed, very popular on
Instagram. I follow her there.
There is an article on her sub stack as well.
All will be linked on autopsy ofa crime.substack.com.
And if you're familiar or if youare now going down the rabbit
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hole, report back. I would love to hear from you
guys. I I would love to know your
thoughts and until then I will talk to you guys later.
There will be a new episode soonand enjoy this rabbit hole that
I am sending you all down. Thanks for listening.