America at a Breaking Point

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello everyone.
This is my home altar.
Here you can see some of myprayer books, my crucifix, and
if I squat down you can see oneof my icons.
You can have a prayer altar athome too.
Just make an intentional space.

(00:33):
This book has the liturgy ofthe hours, my favorite.
I want to invite you to comepray with me.
Let's be shiny together tooMuch love.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I have to say I planned on discussing Lofton
tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I don't think we ever need to, ever again.
Wagner took care of that.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I've never seen anything like what Wagner did
tonight in my life.
It was the most legendarytakedown of it, because you know
what it was.
I posted a clip of him callinghim a cuck and stuff like that,
but that wasn't what it was.
Like, wagner dug into Lofton'spsyche in a way that I have

(01:25):
never seen and it is sostunningly accurate that, like
the narcissism of Lofton is soinsane because he just doesn't
know how to do anything butcounter signal.
So he's, he's beside himselfunder Leo.
He really is.

(01:47):
He's beside himself under leo.
He has no idea what to dobecause everybody likes leo.
So, like all the pope's planersyou're seeing this with right
all the pope's planers are likeout of a job.
And it's not even because leois a great pope or anything.
It's just that people don'tcare anymore.
People, people just don't care.

(02:08):
And it's what's interesting is.
All of Tratistan isexperiencing this.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
So it's it's it's why you got people like Steven Cox
and fake name Chris Jackson, whofeel that they need to do what
they need to do too.
You know, you always make mylife so difficult.
Me.
I make your life difficult.
I'm not the one who writesunder a pen name.
You blame Chris Jackson.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Why do you have to make all of my freaking
friendships difficult?
I don't understand you.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I don't have a list of your friends.
I didn't know they were yourfriends.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I like everybody except Loon, come on, stop it.
I just want peace out there.
Stop, but no, so well, I willbring them up though, because
it's interesting that they'relike attacking trad ink, but
like what I've come to realizeis there really isn't a trad ink
because there's no businessleft in trad ink.
There really isn't a trad inkbecause there's no business left

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in trading.
Like there was a um, I calledthat love three years ago.
It was too easy on him.
Yeah, I will say uh, kennedywas the first to say law.
Michael Lawson is a problem.
Rob makes my relationship withAnthony difficult.
Like he.
Just he.
Rob just gives zero Fs.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's the funniest thing you just did something you
told me not to do three days.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I did okay I've had it with brie solstead.
I've had it with her.
I've just completely had itbecause she took like a little
break from twitter and she, like, I was like so respect, I
respected her so much becauseshe took a few weeks off Twitter
and I thought she was offTwitter and then she came back
and she started lecturingeverybody about how we are all

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using social media to ourdetriment and it is so bad that
everybody is trollingProtestants and using our lady
to get clicks, protestants andusing our lady to get clicks.
And now she's doing the exactsame thing, but under this false
piety, nonsense of writingthese threads about our lady,
and she knows it's going totroll the protestants the same
exact way, because she's goingthrough like saint alphonsus

(04:19):
lagore, or, or, or what's hisname?
Um, who did, uh, the glories ofMary?
Was that a St Alphonsus?
Who?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
did the glories.
It was either him.
Yeah, it was either him or yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
So like she'll do a thread on the glories of Mary,
knowing it will have the exactsame effect, while lecturing
other people for using our lady.
Like it's just the same thing.
Like I don't care if you do it,but like be honest about what
you're doing.
Don't pretend like like falsepiety, I think you know.
Like don't be like thepharisees who pray on corners

(04:52):
for everyone to see so that theycan show off their holiness.
Like I don't like that stuff,man.
That stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It bothers me more than probably anything so you
and I mean everyone knows we'renot perfect, but we make that
very clear to everyone and Idon't need everybody to be like
us.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Like.
I'm not saying you have to goto the extreme.
I do, but don't pretend like.
Don't fake holiness, like dothe best you can to be holy.
Don't honestly fake yourholiness, but don't fake your
holiness.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's one of my big problems with so many people
like so many facets of thechurch, so many people in the
church.
It's one of the big problems Ithink in the church is that
people and I don't know wherethe….

Speaker 2 (05:37):
This is going to be a problematic stream.
What are we thinking?

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I don't know.
I don't know where the problemstarts.
I don't know if it's withpublic Catholics, like public
figures that are Catholics, orwith people in the pews.
But people get in their mindthat they have to act a certain
way, right as a pious Catholic,and they recognize that that's

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different than who they arenormally.
So instead of being who theyare normally and trying to just
become better, they separatetheir lives into their normal
life and their catholic life.
Yes, their church.
They act one way.
You know they act that same waywith their church friends and
then in their, their daily lifeat work.
You wouldn't even know they'refreaking catholic yeah, that all

(06:20):
right, you know and then youhave, then you have the
influencers and the publicfigures.
Who's?
Maybe they're the one thatstart that.
They feel that they need to actthat way.
On camera and behind the scenesthey're completely different.
And then that rubs off oneveryone else and then it's a
vicious cycle.
I don't know, but if you cannotintegrate your Catholic life

(06:41):
with your normal life, youfailed.
You're not going to make it.
Like the whole point ofdeification and theosis is to to
integrate your Catholic lifewith your shitty normal life and
try to become better.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, yeah, look there.
Okay.
Well, first off, let's, let'sforever like you guys in the
chat.
Um, for you guys in the chat,let us know when Erica Kirk
starts speaking and we will stopand we'll listen to what erica
kirk has to say.
Um, just give us a heads up ifshe starts talking.
So this is something rob and Ihave spoken about a little in
that.

(07:15):
Um, it's and we're not sayingthat because there's something
to like larping asing as aCatholic until you become a
Catholic.
Right, like, like, like goingthrough the motions until the
emotions become natural, right,like how you pray is how you'll
believe.
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yes, there is something to fake it till you
make it, but you need to bedoing that in private too.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
In private too right, so you can't just pray in
public.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Correct, like, yeah, it might be hard to pray in
private and you might feel likeyou're faking it, but you got to
do it in private too.
You can't just do it in public.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah and listen, like they're saying, like Anthony's
talking about Brie, like I havenever spoken about Brie
negatively until today, like Iactually just blocked her and I
said honestly, this is just soegregious at this point I I
actually respected her more whenshe was just doing the troll,
because it's like, all right, atleast you're doing the troll.

(08:10):
But now you're trolling, butputting it under the guise of oh
, I'm reading this book, I'mreading this book and it's like
just read your book.
Stop telling us that you'rereading the book.
Like I don't get it yeah, samething with the.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I'm going to adoration.
What do you want?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I'm going to adoration everyone like.
Why are we going to?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
have a private holy hour here.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm putting it out on public space, yeah, this you
know, this stuff has this likeit's really upsetting because
you're not, it's not just her,that's a lot.
No, yeah, that's just ingeneral.
Right, this is this is you havereceived your reward, guys.
This is important.
When you do that, you havereceived your reward.
Any treasure you could havebuilt in heaven by going to holy
hour, you just received thatreward on earth because you had

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to tell everybody I was going todo this, and that's different
from privately saying tosomebody hey, I'm like I'm gonna
lift your intentions up in myprayers.
Or if somebody is going througha hard time like Trent's mother
passed, right, yeah, and to, to, to give a consolation, trent,
I will lift your mother up inprayer today.
That's very different from justannouncing to everybody I am
going to pray right now and I'mgoing to pray for you because

(09:19):
I'm so holy like this stuff.
Man, a social media is going tobe the, the, the thing that
brings a lot of us to hell,because we need the attention
and the praise now.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I need men's accolades and adulation now, and
anthony and I are guilty of ittoo.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
We, we are, we all right, every one of us are yeah,
it's, it's, it's thesanctimonious stuff.
It's like I don't know why I'mstarting the show with this.
It really did start with withwagner criticizing lofton
because, um, what wagner istalking about is actually like
what.
What lofton did with charliekirk was just so appalling and

(09:59):
he was, he was doing whatleftists were doing like,
straight up, leftists werebugging out because people uh
saw what happened, charlie kirk,and they're like why is
everybody so upset about thisone man when children are dying
in gaza?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
and it's like I didn't care about gaza until he
realized most of the catholicworld was for gaza.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
He didn't, he was, he wasn't israeli cuck until 10
minutes ago all right and butregardless, like I actually do
care about the plight of peoplein Gaza, right, like I very much
care about the plight of peoplein Gaza, I very much care about
what happened to that woman onthe train the other day, but
this is what leftists are doing.
What was unique about theCharlie Kirk situation is that
we all saw some imagery thatdamaged our psyche.

(10:44):
It really did.
I mean to see that up close onsomebody that we've been
watching for the past few yearsto the point where you feel like
you have an intimaterelationship with the person
because you see so much of thatperson's life put into the
public sphere.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
We've seen conversations he's had with
people that we like, so I don'teven those of us who grew up
with live leak and rottencom,and if you're not sure what
those are, do not look them up.
Yeah, don't look those up buteven those of us who grew up
with watching, like thebeheading of nick berg, right?
I don't know if you rememberthat, um, but like we, you know

(11:20):
we watch jihadis behead peopleonline.
Why are you?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
laughing.
We're really going off.
This is definitely a localsconversation.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Here's the thing Ann texted me earlier.
She's like do you want tostream tonight?
And almost every time I say no,like extra stream, I'm like no,
I don't want to, but I can'teven tell you.
Tonight I was like, yeah, Ikind of need some talk therapy.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
We need some therapy Like this week was hard, it was
very hard, and the thing is I'llprobably apologize to brie
after this because this is thatwas very harsh, like I was very
harsh on her um, but I just hadit like I don't, I don't know
and you know what.
It was very harsh I think Ithink just our everyone's
patience in general was justyeah and and and that kind of
got to me and I'm not askinganybody to like jump on her for

(12:06):
this stuff or anything like Ihonestly it was, it was.
I probably shouldn't have donethat, but I, I just I've kind of
just had it with with peoplepretending they're something
they're not and I've I've justseen it a lot and I I don't know
Like I'm having a hard timewith it.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
This week was a lot more than that.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
No, look, I made a joke today about my fish dying
on this week and I was like, oh,I'm like Tony Soprano, somebody
actually made that comment inthe chat yesterday and I saw it
and I'm like that's actuallywhat's happening right now for
me, because I freaking caredabout those stupid fish man and
going through the Charlie Kirkthing and the Ukrainian girl and

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then some stuff Rob and I havebeen dealing with behind the
scenes, I just felt likethrowing up emotionally on
stream tonight.
I just needed to pour myself outtonight because it's been a
hard week.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
And I'm not one that tends to talk through things.
I'm sure you all recognize thatthat is definitely more of an
Anthony thing.
But, like I mean, you can askmy wife.
I've been just quiet the lastfew days, you know, and I just
need to get it out.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Okay, so I'll tell you guys something else going on
um, the, the, the.
Remember I told you guys I mean, this is a local stuff, so if
you guys aren't on locals you'renot going to know the backstory
here.
But my, my wife had a friendthat she had a falling out with,
and her kid and my kid are thesame age, and because my wife

(13:47):
had a falling out with thisperson, like we would never,
ever let that falling out affectthe kids, right?
So if that, if her kid came tomy house, I would treat the kid
like I would always treat him, Iwould be kind to him, you know.
But that person is havingpeople over tonight and my kid
was like, hey, would you mind ifI came?

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And he said no, because hismother won't let them over.
And I'm like my wife's losing itright now, like she's losing it
, like how can you let somethingwe're going through go trickle
down to the kids, where now thekids have to know there's
something going on and there'sjust a lock?
I feel like everything's at aboiling point right now.

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My wife's very hurt and uh, youknow, and when you see your
kids, it's a funny thing thathappens with women, um, and it's
it's very unique to women thatI've noticed that when their
kids are going through something, women really experience it in
a way that men don't.
So for something like thathappens and for me I just kind

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of like logically, go through it.
I'm like, I'm like, well, yeah,it's not the kid's fault, he's
just doing what the mom said,where my wife is like feeling my
daughter's pain and anguish andshe's taking that pain on in a
way that I just don't, and it'ssomething very unique to her.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
It's a beautiful trait in women I called the kid
a dumbass the other week becausehe made fun of one of my kids.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
10 years, yeah.
But but if your kid was hurt,you'd have like a rational
conversation with him and try totalk him through it and say,
okay, this is how you handlethis.
Like, oh yeah, where, if yourkids feelings are hurt, your
wife is going to feel the painthat your, that your son, feels.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
That's true men are just going to feel I mean, if
someone calls it, men are justgoing to feel anger and you're
going to want to, and you'regoing to want to take care of it
yes you're going to be angry atthe kid where I'm telling you
the woman actually.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
So this dude, I was thinking about this with our
lady.
I was really thinking aboutthis with our lady, and the way
our lady, check your cat'sbreath.
My cats don't go outside.
So this was.
I was really thinking aboutthis with our lady, while
watching my wife like feel thepain that my kid was going

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through.
I'm saying this is why our ladyfelt the crucifixion in a way a
man could never understand.
Like it's not the same kind ofpain.
When I say that she truly feltthe pain of the crucifixion, oh
it, oh.
All right, she's gonna speakmaybe I can't hold on.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Why can't you?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
she's not speaking yet.
Um, we're, we're keeping an eyeon it, guys.
We're, uh, I don't know ifthere's just no volume um it
might not be right now, but um,let's see what I'm looking on
turning points twitter this ison charlie's twitter on charlie
kirk's twitter.

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Twitter.
This is on Charlie's.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Twitter.
On Charlie Kirk's Twitter,everything says it my settings
all look fine.
I don't think it's.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's saying live.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Do you hear anything on it on your phone?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
This is not live.
That's not live, let's see.
No, it's just an empty chairright now.
It's just an empty chair.
She's not live, let's see.
No, it's just an empty chairright now.
Yeah, all right, it's just anempty chair.
She's not speaking yet.
So, yeah, it was something,while watching my wife go
through that, that really mademe think about the sufferings
Our Lady endured in a unique waythat, like men don't comprehend

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, they just don't.
That like men don't don'tcomprehend, they just don't.
But when a woman and a mothersees her child suffering, she
really feels the pain that thechild was feeling, and I
witnessed it with my own wifeand it was, it was a very
enlightening thing.
So, um, yeah, so uh, the thetitle of the show tonight, um, I

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, I feel like America's at thatbreaking point, because I feel
like I'm at a breaking point.
A lot of the stuff, oh my gosh,jason shut up, I know, I know
I'm watching the text.
come in, hold on, I have toactually tell you.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
The only time Jason and Mark ever talk to us is when
we're on stream.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Maybe I'll just mute it.
I'm just going to mute thethread.
Uh, high alerts, okay, um, so I, I I'm feeling like America's
at a breaking point, cause Ifeel myself at a breaking point
to to the point where we came onstream tonight and I just had
to and unload, becauseeverything just feels like we're

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we're boiling over.
But I also want to know what wedo next and where we go from
here, because I'm so tired oflosing.
I'm so tired of the bishop inCharlotte taking away people's
kneelers.
And why isn't there a battalionof trads in front of his

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chancery, on their knees,praying the rosary?
Like why, why do we do?
Was a petition, a petition thathe's going to ignore, and it's
like this and it can't be fromthe priest.
The priests have their handstied.
It has to be the lady and thelady have to do it in a way
where it's it has to be wherehe's the villain.

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Just look at us.
We're on our hands and knees,begging, and just praying our
rosary in silence.
There's no threats, there's nonothing.
But I'm just tired of losing.
I'm tired of us taking thingslaying down, I'm tired of us
having no recourse to anything.
It's, it's very tiresome to meand I don't know what the next

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step is.
I don't know where we're goingto go from here, but I I feel
like something must be done.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
um, all right, let's see I think we have to recognize
well, this could be yeah, we'rekind of like we're floating in
between here because we'rewaiting for her to start
speaking, but I think we have torecognize that the enemies
within the church are not onlynot any different than the

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secular enemies that killedsomeone a couple days ago,
they're the progenitors of thoseenemies.
What do you mean?
The bishop in Charlotte?
Sure he's not going to killanyone, but is he really any
different than than the, thanthe ghoul, celebrating the death
of a man?
than the ghoul celebrating thedeath of the mass.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, people's parishes yeah, yeah, there is
something so ghoulish about that.
Um, oh, the other, the otherthing, uh, that I got
sidetracked from because I gotso upset.
You were bringing up like theguys calling everybody trad ink
and criticizing them, right,yeah, and what I've realized in

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the past couple of days is thatthere really isn't a
stratosphere anymore.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
It's kind of it's splintered for sure.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Not just splintered, it's People are Hereintered.
Here she is All right.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Good evening.
My name is Erica Kirk.
Charlie Kirk is my husband.
I first want to thank the local, state and federal law
enforcement who workedtirelessly to capture my
husband's assassin so that hecan be brought to justice.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Will we get struck for this?

Speaker 5 (21:35):
I want to thank the first responders who struggled
heroically.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Do you care, heroically.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
To save Charles's life.
Do you care Heroically To saveCharles's life?
And the police who actedbravely to make sure that there
were no other victims on thatterrible afternoon.
I want to thank the officerswho have protected our Turning
Point USA family these past twodays and I want to thank the

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Turning Point USA board, the COO, justin Strife, and my
husband's chief of staff, theamazing Mikey McCoy, for all
their work in these terribledays to be the stability for our
family and for the widerTurning Point USA family as well

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, for our family and for thewider Turning Point USA family
as well.
My heart is with every one ofmy husband's employees who lost
a friend and a mentor.
I want to thank the staffers ofthis, his amazing Charlie Kirk

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show, who helped him broadcastfrom this studio this, this
chair, every day.
He loved it.
He loved what he did.
I want to thank the millions ofpeople who have shown their love
for Charlie here in Phoenix,across America and worldwide

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Phoenix across America andworldwide.
I want to thank my husband'sdear friend, vice President
Vance, and his phenomenal wife,usha, for their love and support
.
You guys honored my husband sowell, bringing him home.
You both are tremendous.

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I want to thank President Trumpand his incredible family for
the same.
Mr President, my husband lovedyou and he knew that you loved
him too.
He did.
Your friendship was amazing.

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You supported him so well, asdid he for you.
Two days ago, my husband,charlie, went to see the face of
his Savior and his God.
Charlie always said that whenhe was gone he wanted to be

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remembered for his courage andfor his faith.
In one of the finalconversations that he had on
this earth, my husband witnessedfor his Lord and Savior, jesus
Christ.
Now and for all eternity, hewill stand at his Savior's side,
wearing the glorious crown of amartyr side wearing the

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glorious crown of a martyr.
Charlie loved, loved life.
He loved his life.
He loved America.
He loved nature, which helpedhim always bring him closer to
God.
He loved the Chicago Cubs and,my goodness, did he love the

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Oregon Ducks.
He'd want me to say go Ducks,so I have to, since they play on
Saturday, so go Ducks.
But most of all, charlie lovedhis children and he loved me
with all of his heart and I knewthat every day.

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I knew that he made sure I knewthat every day, every day, he
would ask me how can I serve youbetter, how can I be a better
husband, how can I be a betterfather?
Every day, every day, he wassuch a good man.
He still is a good man.
He was the perfect father.
He was the perfect husband.

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Charlie always believed thatGod's design for marriage in the
family was absolutely amazingand it is.
It is and it was the greatestjoy of his life.
And over and over, he wouldtell all these young people to
come and find their futurespouse, become wives and

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husbands and parents.
And the reason why is becausehe wanted you all to experience
what he had and still has.
He wanted everyone to bringheaven into this earth through
love and joy that comes fromraising a family.
It's beautiful.
Charlie always said that if heever ran for office I know a lot

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of you asked if he ever wasgoing to, but privately he told
me if he ever did run for officethat his top priority would be
to revive the American family.
That was his priority.
One of Charlie's favorite Bibleverses was Ephesians 5, verse 25

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.
Verses was Ephesians 5, verse25.
Husbands, love your wives, asChrist loved the church and gave
himself up for her.
My husband laid down his lifefor me, for our nation, for our

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children.
He showed the ultimate and truecovenantal love.
I will never, ever have thewords to describe the loss that
I feel in my heart.
I honestly have no idea whatany of this means.
I know that God does, but Idon't.

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But Charlie, baby, I know youdo too.
I know you do.
So does our Lord.
And our world is filled withevil.
But our God, you guys, our God,is so good, so incredibly good,

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and we know that for those wholove God, all things work
together for good For those whoare called according to his
purpose, for those who arecalled according to his purpose.
Already I have seen theworldwide outpouring of love for

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my husband.
I've heard the testimonies frompeople my husband inspired to
get married, to start families,to seek out a relationship with
God.
It's the most important, mostimportant one of all.
With God, it's the mostimportant, most important one of
all.
The evildoers responsible formy husband's assassination have

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no idea what they have done.
They killed Charlie because hepreached a message of patriotism
, faith and of God's mercifullove.
They should all know this.
If you thought that myhusband's mission was powerful

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before, you have no idea.
You have no idea what you justhave unleashed across this
entire country and this world.
You have no idea.
You have no idea the fire thatyou have ignited within this
wife.
The cries of this widow willecho around the world like a

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battle cry to everyone listeningtonight across america.
The movement my husband builtwill not die.
It won't.
I refuse to let that happen.
It will not die.
All of us will refuse to letthat happen.

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No one will ever forget myhusband's name, and I will make
sure of it.
It will become stronger, bolder, louder and greater than ever.
My husband's mission will notend, not even for a moment, and

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one of charlie's greatesttalents was his ability this
phenomenal ability, to choosegreat people to follow him.
He could always find the oneswho could handle any setback,
and it's almost like he knew hecould see it in you, even when
you couldn't see it in yourself.
He just knew, he knew you couldhandle it.
You thought you only had 5%left and he knew you had 15.

(31:01):
He knew you were ready to gothat extra mile, even when you
didn't.
He always challenged peoplearound him to work harder and to
be better.
He never gave up, and I loveknowing that one of his, one of
his mottos was never surrender.
So I want to tell you that thatwe'll never surrender.
We never will, ever, ever, ever.

(31:27):
Our campus tour this fall willcontinue.
There will be even more toursin the years to come.
America Fest here in Phoenixthis December will go on.
It will be greater than ever.
The radio and podcast show thathe was so proud of will go on.

(31:52):
And in a world filled withchaos, doubt and uncertainty, my
husband's voice will remain andit will ring out louder and
more clearly than ever, and hiswisdom will endure.
My favorite my favorite too,but my husband's favorite word

(32:13):
in the English language was earn.
He would call all of you to bepeople of action who earn the
future America deserves.
So.
To all of the young people whofelt inspired by my husband's
faith in hard work, all of youalready know what Charlie would

(32:36):
want you to do.
You know.
You know If you're in highschool or if you're in college,
go find your local Turning PointUSA chapter.
Join it, stay involved.
He wants you to make adifference and you can.

(32:57):
You can.
The movement's not goinganywhere and it will only grow
stronger when you join it.
The movement's not goinganywhere and it will only grow
stronger when you join it.
If there isn't a chapter youcan't find one then start one.
There is no excuse.
You can start one.
And, as my husband used to sayin this room every single day,

(33:17):
if you want to get involved, thebest way you can do that is
going to tpusacom.
That's what he would say everyday from this chair Every single
day.
I watched his show every dayand he would always say if you
want to get involved, go totpusacom.
If you're a pastor, join ourmovement at TPUSA Faith.
And if you're a parent, Ihighly recommend that you come

(33:41):
to AmericaFest in December.
Sign up right now for that,because we would love to see you
.
I would love to see you,Charlie, would.
He'll be there.
He'll be there in spirit.
Bring your kids, bring yourfamily, but, most important of
all, if you aren't a member of achurch, I beg you to join one,

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a Bible-believing church.
Our battle is not simply apolitical one.
Above all, it is spiritual.
It is spiritual.
The spiritual warfare ispalpable.
Charlie loved his Savior withall of his heart and he wanted
every one of you to know him too.

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He loved his Savior with all ofhis heart and he wanted every
one of you to know him too.
He wanted everyone to know thatif they confess, if they
confess the Lord Jesus Christ,who rose from the dead, then
they will be saved.
Hear me when I say this nobodyis ever too young to know the

(34:46):
gospel.
Nobody, Nobody is ever tooyoung to get involved with
saving this beautiful country,this country my husband loved
and still loves.
And nobody is ever too oldeither.
There's no age limit.
I know my husband is still here.

(35:09):
He's watching over us.
I don't remember the last timeI slept, I couldn't sleep last
night, and Charlie, baby Charlie, I promise I will never let
your legacy die.

(35:30):
Baby, I won't.
I promise I'll make TurningPoint USA the biggest thing that
this nation has ever seen.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Stay home with your children.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
I promise, charlie, I love you.
I love you, baby.
Rest in the arms of our Lord ashe blankets you with the words
I know your heart always strivesto hear.
Well done, my good and faithfulservant, when I got home last

(36:05):
night, gigi, our daughter, justran into my arms and I talked to
her and she said Mommy, Imissed you.
I said I miss you too, baby.
She goes where's daddy.
You tell a three-year-old,she's three.

(36:27):
I said, baby, daddy loves youso much, don't you worry, he's
on a.
He's on a work trip with Jesusso he can afford your blueberry
budget.
And, my goodness, am I sohumbled to witness, charlie, you

(36:52):
alongside jesus right now doingwhat you always want to do.
Baby, making heaven crowded.
Right, that's what it's allabout making heaven crowded.
I can't wait to see you againone day.
Thank you all again who love myhusband, who supported him, who

(37:16):
wrote him an email every singleday during his radio show.
He read all of them, all ofthem.
He read all of them, all ofthem.
God bless you all, and may Godbless.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
America man, you think that, like we were
affected by that video, we sawthis poor woman was there, she
was there with him.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Like how, oh man, I don't think my wife could have
done that I just don't think mywife could have done that but
the only thing michael lawsonhas done since that woman lost
her husband was shit on hismemory and even the people in
the comments saying he was azionist, he was this and that
like yeah, they're blocked.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
No, like, yeah, we don't know.
Man like literally don't know.
Um, we've heard plenty ofrumors about him going to mass
with his wife.
Like you guys gotta chill out,you gotta chill out.
We don't know what was going onin his heart.
I'm not one of those peoplewho's like all protestants go to
heaven, that's know what wasgoing on in his heart.
I'm not one of those peoplewho's like, oh, protestants go
to heaven, that's not what'sgoing on here.

(38:27):
Like the man was seen at mass.
We've heard rumors that he wasprivately being instructed in
the Catholic faith.
We've heard enough evidencethat it's all right to give this
man a little bit of leeway andwe don't need to jump down his
throat for being a problem.
Honestly, when the protestantsdid that with the catholic kids,
like I was so disgusted withtheir behavior.

(38:48):
I'm not going to participate inthat.
God knows where his soul is.
It is not on any of us to judgewhere his soul is right now.
The man was I mean, I don't carelike this woman just got up
there and the entire timethanked God in the face of
losing her husband before theentire world.

(39:09):
The man's throat was rippedapart and she literally got up
and thanked God and toldeverybody Like she preached the
gospel before the world a dayafter her husband was murdered,
before everybody.
I don't know what to tell youguys that are I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
This isn't about an ecumenicalthing.
I'm not.
What to tell you guys that areI'm not trying, this isn't about
an ecumenical thing, it'snothing to do with that.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
If you guys don't see , Until you guys are up in front
of crowds every day for adecade talking about Jesus.
Maybe just shut your mouth.
Maybe just shut your mouth andthink about that and have a
little freaking humility.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
And just like empathy , like this woman just's their
husband.
Like what are you gonna do?
You want to sit there and youwant to critique all this stuff.
Like just stop, just stop.
Like honestly.
I mean I have an article herethat says charlie kirk refused
netanyahu funding offer, wasfrightened for his life.
Like there's so many, there'sso much stuff we don't know that
went on behind the scenes.
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
This isn't one of those where it's like and none
of it matters anyways, becausewhat's coming for us is what is
coming for us, and if we're notready for that, if all we do is
bitch and complain about oh, hewas a Zionist or no, he wasn't,
and that's why Israel killed him, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
The left is coming for us, all of them.
I know this.
I know his wife is catholic andI know his wife's a daily mask
goer and the woman's doing thebest she can and she just stood
in front of her husband while hewas murdered before the world.
Her kids like her, like I don't.
I don't know, man, I don't knowif my wife would have it in her
to do something like that.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
You know, I don't know you're gonna call him a
zionist in front of his littlethree-year-old girl.
Yeah, you'll never see yourdaddy, again, people are sick.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
People are just like so jaded from the internet, so
jaded from the internet and youthink it's like it's always time
to like roast the pro, like,come on, guys, have a little bit
of empathy for a woman who'sgoing through hell right now
going through hell, and whileshe's in that hell she gets up,
carries her cross and tellseverybody to love Jesus Christ

(41:20):
in her suffering.
Like what you talk about,carrying your car, like that's I
don't know a better example ofthat the woman thanking God in
the midst of one of the mosthorrific sufferings you can
imagine.
I don't know, you guys want tojust be complete black-pilled
savages.
Go ahead, do it.
I don't know where you thinkthat helps your spiritual life.
I'm not going to participate init because I telling you, when

(41:44):
I watched lizzie and chad andall them doing this garbage,
when those poor catholicchildren were killed by that
sociopath last week, like itsickened me, it was like I can't
believe.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
You guys can't put the stupid animosity between
protestants and catholics downfor a couple of days and here's
the thing when the left doesreally come for us, I fully
expect those same people to findcrazy ass excuses as to why
they can't stand with us.
Then at that point too, theywill.
They'll find a reason.
We weren't Catholic enough, orwe're now Israeli cucks too,

(42:19):
they'll find some reason.
Yeah, they're the.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
They're the kind that go run and hide yeah, that was
a hard thing to watch, man, andespecially like like she kept it
together and and she she usedthat time.
You know a million, millions ofpeople are going to watch that

(42:43):
and she just talked about jesuschrist for 15 minutes, 20
minutes like one of the commentsthat, like that very well might
be the speech that literallyconverts a generation her
husband was just killed and shedidn't use it to spew hatred to
the, to the people that did this, or to the left.

(43:04):
She didn't do any of thatwhatred to the, to the people
that did this, or to the left.
She didn't do any of that.
She could have.
She had very right.
I mean, she actually had theattention of the world just
there.
She could have given anymessage she wanted it.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
I said it on twitter like an hour before the speech,
but like it almost felt like itcould, could be one of those
events out of antiquity, likeanthony, you know, giving the
funeral speech for Caesar.
Now, when most people think ofthat, they think of
Shakespeare's version of it.
We have no idea what the realone was like, but she still

(43:35):
could have an army at herfingertips if she called for it,
and I wouldn't blame her.
It wouldn't be rightnecessarily.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
And I'll tell you something else I see people
getting on nick for like havinga month ago he was trashing
charlie and then last last nighthe got on and he was very
decent to charlie.
It's like the man just died.
What do you want nick to do?
Get on and try, like I think.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I think nick's show last night was actually really
good it was the only one of hisI've ever seen and I understand
that isn't maybe his typicalshow, but from watching it every
criticism I've heard about himseems wrong.
But like I said, I understandit's maybe not typical, but
there's nothing wrong with thatshow last night that he did.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Steve Cunningham just texted me.
He said tell the commenters hewas the only one telling Trump
not to attack Iran and, though afan of Israel, he called out
ethnic cleansing on Shapiro'sshow days ago.
He was moving from the Zionistideas and noticed Ben Shapiro
and notice Shapiro wants to takeover, which is BB's talking

(44:45):
head.
So we do have an article heretalking about that.
You want to pull that up realquick, rob?
Sure, charlie Kirk refusedNetanyahu's funding offer.
I got sick in Detroit.
I got a cold.
Charlie Kirk refusedNetanyahu's funding offer.
Was frightened by pro-Israelforces before death.
Friends reveal.
A Trump insider and longtimefriend of Charlie Kirk tells the

(45:06):
gray zone now that theassassinated conservative
leaders turning point on Israelinfluence provoked a private
backlash from Netanyahu's allies.
That left him angry and afraid.
The source said anxiety spreadwithin the Trump administration
after an apparent Israeli spyoperation was uncovered.
Charlie Kirk rejected an offerearlier this year from Netanyahu
to arrange a massive newinfusion of Zionist money into

(45:28):
his TPUSA organization.
Now you have to understand.
They got their start withZionist money right, so they get
their start with this money andthey were molding Charlie to be
a Zionist.
Now I have watched over the pastfew months, charlie start to go
questioning things and going.

(45:49):
I don't know man, I don'tunderstand.
I'm like one of their biggestsupporters and all I'm seeing is
, if you question anything, theyflip out on you and like these
are things that he said oncamera and he's said oh, not,
not, not sure if you heard it.
Before switching over the firstword, she whispered to herself
when she got on camera wherejesus filled his room.
Um, now, now you have to thinkabout what that means.

(46:12):
Now they start thisorganization, they pump money
into it and they're molding thiszionist and then he starts to
turn on them.
This is like the tax collectorthe jewish tax collector to they
didn't kill him.
I'm not saying they killed him,I'm just saying the anger there
.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Sure, but why talk about it if it has nothing to do
with this?

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I'm just I'm all right, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
I mean I just I don't know.
I'm just so sick of everythinghaving to be turned into
conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
And I'm not saying it was them.
I'm not saying it was them, I'mnot saying you mean to, but
everyone in the chat wanted usto talk about this the anger
from that group towards him I'mtalking about because
everybody's accusing him ofbeing a Zionist and I'm just
saying, if that, if this is true, what happened?
And he starts to turn on themlike the anger that's there.
It's like a betrayal.

(47:02):
You know what I mean.
So I'm not.
I has nothing to do with yeah,but no, you're right.
It is proof that he that hereally wasn't a zionist I mean,
he was definitely leaning awayfrom that at this point.
Um uh.
Nick's speech was phenomenal.
Gave insight into how this is aspiritual battle.
Call to action and get involvedpolitically, not to fall into

(47:22):
violence and revolution likeguys.
I'm telling you right now, thiswhole thing there's just feds
all over it watching whateverybody says that they.
There is this desire to seeamerica devolve into chaos and
violence, into sectarian outrageand and and different kinds of
things like what she just did.

(47:43):
There was beautiful she.
She just talked about hergratitude to God in the face of
her husband being killed.
She didn't call for violence.
She didn't call for outrage atthe left.
Even even putting this in leftverse right Dialectic is
infuriating to me.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
I was right, because the american right really isn't
right there.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, there's just two I, I don't even like the
political language anymore, man,it's, this is we're so beyond
this getting fixed or goingrepublican people.
People are saying, oh, thedemocrats will never win again,
like who cares if they don'thave to, because if the
republicans win again, well thenthe Democrats won again.
It's the same thing.
It's the same thing.
There's no difference.

(48:29):
So I don't see a politicalsolution to any of this.
If we still have to vote, we'velost.
I just don't Anybody lookingfor a political solution to this
.
There isn't one, no, thereisn't one.
No, not, not within.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
I mean not.
There is not a politicalsolution in the sense of the
american political system,correct any.
Any solution that isn't divine,any solution that comes from
some sort of human action ispolitical just by its very
nature.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
But, yes, there is no solution to be found in within
the American political systemthat's all I'm saying, right 100
, and I think we are much bettertaking our battle to the church
, because that's where the rootof this all lies.
The whole, the whole root ofall this lies in the fact that
the church no longer is boldlyspeaking the truth well, I mean

(49:25):
just so.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I mean there's a lot of argument right now.
Is the church growing, is thechurch dying?
And in a sense it's both right,but I think I think there's not
much argument in that there isa revival in the church amongst
the young right now.
Yes, it's being outpaced by byboom, by boomers dying and
leaving the church and stufflike that.

(49:47):
Sure, but if you think about it, with as broken as the church
is right now, it is what itoffers to the world quietly and
hiddenly, as it is right now,with it being so broken, is
still so attractive to the youththat it is right now, with it
being so broken, is still soattractive to the youth that it
is converting a generation, atleast the men in a generation.

(50:11):
Yeah, Imagine what it could doIf we could figure the church
out, if we could fix the church,the, the the way I see it is I.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
If the church is in her passion, what you would
expect to see is a weakenedstate of the church.
It's like Christ was justscourged at the pillar and he's
weakened, and that's just kindof how I see the state of the
hierarchy right now.
But that doesn't mean we are inthat state.
We still have every bit ofability to go out and speak to

(50:45):
people and speak about thegospel and things like that now.
So, like getting back to theearlier conversation, we were
talking about trad inc andthings like that.
Like there is like the, thetrad online sphere is broken.
It's very broken.
There's no.
Under francis there was thisexcitement and people always

(51:08):
wanted to consume a clear enemyto unite against right and that
that whole dynamic is differentunder leo.
It just is, people are just kindof done with it.
Leo's leo's not going to comeout with some crazy statement
that's going to fire up the lady.
So there isn't really this tradink place, like everybody

(51:30):
thinks.
It's about money.
There's no money left in tradCatholicism, like it's just,
it's kind of a dead thing atthis point and people have to
adapt and figure out where weare and I think the, the, the.
We're no longer in a positionin a, in a place where it's like

(51:53):
, okay, we have, we have tocriticize Francis and that'll
rile the faithful up.
No, we're at a point now wherewe just have to actually preach
the gospel in ways that aregoing to turn hearts Right.
So, um, just differentconversations you're having with
people.
People are seeing something likethe charlie kirk incident and
they're recognizing that likethere's something seriously

(52:15):
wrong with our world and itmakes no sense on a political
conversation like it's.
This isn't a political thing,it's not really right verse left
.
We are actually dealing withgood verse evil, because people
are losing their minds for noapparent reason.
Political thing.
It's not really right versusleft.
We are actually dealing withgood versus evil, because people
are losing their minds for noapparent reason.
I mean it's that Charlie Kirkwas the most like, mildly like.

(52:35):
He was just so mild in his.
He was the Pope Leo ofconservative yeah, like he was
so mild in his controversy hewas, you know, yeah, this is
kind of.
This is kind of how I feel,like I.
I think leo's just kind ofmilquetoast like.
He's not really like I, I don't.
I don't know, he's just kind ofa boring papacy and that's kind

(52:56):
of what you're gonna have, andI think that's frustrating
people and they don't know whatto do, because for 10 years
people have been like francis isthe enemy and it's like that
never should have been the casein the first place.
Never should have been.
The pope is the like.
It's such a bizarre position tohave as a catholic.
No, with who's the enemy?
Is the devil, right like satanis our enemy we are up against.

(53:16):
We're not up against flesh andblood, we are up against powers
and principalities and thingslike this.
So our lady of kibeho in africawarned that there would be a
bloodshed on the streets ifpeople did not convert.
One tribe slaughtered anotherbecause the government
dehumanized one of the tribesand they were.
I have been thinking about thatsituation an awful lot lately
because you hear the way peopleare talking about each other and

(53:40):
all the left and all theDemocrats are crazy and all that
.
There's nothing that benefitsthe devil more than when we hate
our fellow citizen and when youcan't, when you dehumanize them
and you think they are nolonger people.
And that's what the left isdoing to us, right, they
actually think.
You see some of the videos thatare coming out.

(54:00):
They're just so insane wherethey're reveling in the death of
Charlie Kirk and they thinkit's a good thing.
We cannot fall victim to that.
Like you really can't fallvictim to that and start saying
all leftists are this.
Like, yes, there are crazyleftists and anybody that is
Democrat is clearly not well,but the idea that we are, it's

(54:24):
right versus left.
It's an easy way to divide andconquer this nation, man, like
there's ways to go about thiswhere you have to love your
enemy to the point of martyrdom,and I don't know if any of us
are willing to do that.
We'd rather just hate ourenemies, and that's a very easy
way to go about this our enemies, and that's a very easy way to

(54:49):
go about this, and in.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
None of that means do not be ready to take necessary
action if and when that timecomes yes, that is not what
anthony's saying.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
No, you can love your enemy while you destroy them to
protect your family love yourenemies to the point of
martyrdom is more like beingwilling to die for the faith.
That's.
It's not like that.
That's what it is being willingto die for the faith.
It's not lay down whilesomebody murders your family
like that's a very that's not.

(55:15):
What we're saying here is thetwo totally different things.
I'm saying just we can't justmake this a right verse, left
thing.
That's not.
That's actually exactly what.
What they want.
They want us to think this isjust so simple as republicans
and democrats, and it's just not.
Should we not be more firmabout excluding those that hate

(55:37):
us from our spaces and such likethat?
So it depends on the space.
Well, can we bring up MichaelKnowles'?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
tweet Sure, I would say, obviously, like, for
instance, your parish, yourchurch, be careful, Like if a
crazy someone looks like a crazyleftist comes in, be careful
and be prepared.
But the church has to be opento everyone.
You know, until they dosomething where they need to be

(56:03):
removed, until they do somethingwhere they need to be removed,
but other than church.
Yeah, I think we need to getback to the whole idea of free
association.
It's okay to move somewhere, tobe away from certain people.
Oh yeah for sure it's okay to,if you have certain
organizations, to not havecertain people in them.

(56:23):
Like, yeah, it is okay toexclude those who hate you from
basically everything but thechurch.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
So that's where Michael Knowles' tweet comes in,
okay.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Let me find it.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
In the wake of Charlie's assassination, many
people are demanding that weredouble our devotion to the
free marketplace of ideas.
This call seems at first glancecourageous and noble.
In reality, it is reckless andimpractical.
We had an open marketplace ofideas.
The left shot it up.
Not only have extreme leftistcommitted violence and like he
is using this dialect of extremeleftists and stuff but I want I

(56:55):
want to point to a couple ofthings he says in here that are
important.
Not only have extreme leftistcommitted violence in the
marketplace of ideas.
More scandalous still,mainstream left wing voices have
cheered and made light of theviolence.
There can be no open marketplaceof ideas, or anything else,
under such conditions.
Marketplaces require rules,confidence and common media of
exchange.
They require, in other words,order.

(57:15):
Liberty requires order.
One cannot be both free andundisciplined, for instance, or
free and ignorant.
We know this philosophicallyand we also know it intuitively.
It's why we don't let toddlersvote.
What we require now is thereassertion of order.
We must insist upon theacceptance of basic truths and

(57:42):
moral goods, not as anasymptomatic goal.
It's not what he wrote.
No, not as the asymptomaticgoal.
That's not what he wrote,though.
No, it's a sip dot ace,asymptotic.
You didn't send the tweet to me, so I didn't pull it up.
Uh, I'll send it to you.
Uh, I don't want to lose it I'lljust keep reading yeah, um,
it's like his third tweet if youwant to go to his profile.

(58:02):
Uh, and suicidal ideologies.
We must foreclose certainantisocial behaviors and
suicidal ideologies.
We must, to borrow a phrasefrom Chesterton, stop the
thought that stops thought.
In practical terms, this meanswe must stigmatize certain evil
ideas and behaviors and we mustostracize people who insist upon
them.
More practically, this meansthat people who persist in such

(58:23):
disorder should lose theirsocial standing.
In certain cases, they shouldlose their jobs.
There must be consequences.
So this whole crusade thatwe've seen go on on Twitter,
where, if you see somebody likereveling in this thing, get them
fired.
I sent emails today.
Yeah, get them fired.
This is not a joke.
These people do not belong inpolite society.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
They are derangedanged, evil lunatics the
left was not wrong about cancelculture.
They were wrong about whoshould be canceled?
Correct ostracizedostracization ostracizing people
?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
yeah, yeahstracizing people, yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Yeah, ostracizing people has been a tool society's
used to keep society safeforever.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
So, look, it was a few years ago where when we
would say something, they wouldcancel us, cut us out and
basically excommunicate us fromthe conversation.
It's time that gets reversedand anybody that's talking like
this has to get canceled,deplatformed and put out of the
conversation.
It's time that gets reversedand anybody that's talking like
this has to get canceled, youknow, de-platformed and put out
of the conversation anybody.
This is why it was good whatchristian wagner did today to

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michael lofton.
So it may have.
It may have seemed mean whatchristian was doing.
In reality it was pure charitythat, that, yes, that, yeah,
exactly.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
ostracizing from someone from society serves the
same purpose.
It was pure charity.
Yes, exactly, ostracizingsomeone from society serves the
same purpose as excommunicatingthem from the church, and it is
to make them reflect and, inturn, to repent.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
And reform their ways before you let them back in the
conversation, right but it isalso to protect ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Correct?
It is because one of the peopleI sent emails about today is a
pediatrician who thinks CharlieKirk deserved to die because he
said what they thought were evilthings.
This person, by the way, thinksthey're a Catholic.
That person should be nowherenear the health of children Ever
, ever again.
They should never have amedical license ever again.

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They should not even.
I don't think they should neverhave a medical license ever
again.
They should not even.
I don't think they should bewelcome.
I know I said we should welcomeeveryone in the church, but
well, what version of church arethey being welcomed into anyway
?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
but so look, even when I was listening to like am
radio today, when I was going tothe store and they were
presenting the charlie kirksituation, the news reporter
said uh, they, you know, theyfound the assassin of charlie
kirk.
He's in custody right now.
Charlie kirk, known for hisracist comments and brought up
when, when, when uh, katanjijackson was, you know, brought

(01:01:00):
in the supreme court thatcharlie kirk said she was a DEI
hire.
They have to cage his death inthese comments that they
perceive as racist.
Because we played the clip lastnight, I'm going to actually
send it to you again so you canplay it again.
We played it last night withHitchborn.
Hitchborn sent it to us.

(01:01:21):
I'm going to send it because Iwant to play this again right
now.
Hang on um yeah, if it's onehitchborn sent, it's not it's
the one hitchborn said I'msending it to the group chat
right now.
Okay, so I got it.
So what you saw was this kid.
That was the one who asked thequestion to charlie kirk.
He was about to say to charliekirk well, well, the left isn't

(01:01:42):
the one who's violent.
And all of a sudden the ironystruck him that it was the left
who was being violent and takinghis life right.
So, but the reason this kidthought that, that he thought
the left isn't violent, isbecause he's receiving a news
feed from people who do whatthat newscaster that I was
talking about does, where theycage everything in a way to make

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it seem like what Charlie gotwas what he deserved.
Right, we played the Elon Omarclip yesterday where she was
like well, you know, he didn'tthink Juneteenth should be a
holiday and he called GeorgeFloyd a scumbag and that means
he should die like.
Are you people that sick play?
Play the kid on scene.
And this is the kid who askedCharlie Kirk the question right

(01:02:25):
before he was shot.
The last question.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
And people have obviously pointed to the irony
that the point that I was tryingto make is how peaceful the
left was right before he gotshot, and that only makes sense
if we stay peaceful as much as Idisagree with charlie kirk.
I'm on the record for how muchI disagree with charlie kirk,

(01:02:50):
but like man dude, he is still ahuman being.
Have we forgotten that?
Are we great like?
And people have obviouslypointed to the irony good for
this kid.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Good for this kid because there are some people
that see the evil of whathappened here and and they're
not just running down that road.
Um, somebody's asking are thereother benefits of joining
locals besides getting to seethe full show?
Well, lately, what we've beendoing is allowing our locals
members to actually come on theshow yeah, that's true like
we've.
We've been letting locals,members come on the show and

(01:03:26):
actually hang with us.
Um, uh, yeah, telegram chat, uh, invites to meetups.
You guys will have first dibswhen we do certain things and
I'll be honest, like tonight'sshow if you enjoyed tonight's
show, this is very much a localshow, especially the beginning
of the show, yeah, um, yeah,it's kind of what we.
It's, where we kind of vent andtell more personal stuff and

(01:03:48):
things like that.
You get to see Anthony's coyand cat.
But I've also been thinkingabout some other things we could
do potentially.
I have some ideas in the works,but we really do want to build
up our locals as much as we canand I I'm sorry I know you guys

(01:04:10):
hate when I say it, but I thinkthere's something unique about
our show.
We interact with you guys waymore than anybody else does this
.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
this comment came through while we were watching
Erica and it struck me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Thank you guys for playing this.
I can't imagine watching thislive, live without my ab family
here with me.
Yeah, there's something, um, Ihope I have, because I kind of
feel like I'm just hanging withmy friends when I'm on here with
you guys, and I don't know anyother show that has that feel.
So it's, but it's much more.
Uh, yeah, locals is the afterparty, so, yeah, if you guys
aren't locals members, we wouldappreciate you joining.

(01:04:45):
It is how rob and I keep thelights on.
Youtube doesn't pay us anything.
Youtube hates us in thealgorithm.
It's just the way it is.
Uh, we butchered the titleyesterday, which was stupid on
our part.
Um, yeah, apparently, when youjust put dates, it does not help
the algorithm I think it mighthave been a copyrighted song at
the beginning too, too, but yeah, we do the best we can.

(01:05:07):
Tonight we're actually when wego over to locals.
It's going to be probably avery long local show because I'm
having a beer and it's Fridaynight, I don't have to wake up
in the morning.
There is I give you guys a hardtime, but there's a reason I
watch all the time.
It's like hanging out mybrothers.
We appreciate you, mrs.

(01:05:27):
I'm on my third bourbon.
Yeah, I'm on my my thirdpumpkin beer.
I got peronis next, thoughwe're not going away tonight.
Tonight we're hanging, um, butI'm having fun on youtube.
We won't kill we'll.
We'll hang on youtube a littlelonger.
Um, we.
I like a friday night showbecause I don't have the
pressure of waking up in themorning.
Um, but I tomorrow's huntingseason.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Right, I gotta get up early and go hunting and
honestly, I am so excited for it, I need it so bad it's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
It's a good way to unwind after this tumultuous
week.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Man um if you can get in the country.
Sure, sure, but we are going tomake you leave after no staying
, no staying long-term buddy.
There's no overstaying yourvisa here yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
So yeah, we we let a no go ahead.
Um, we we did let a couple guys.
We actually had a young guycame on our our locals show last
night and he said he disagreeswith 85 of what we do, but he's
still a locals member, so it'slike he thinks we're.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
He disagrees with 85 of our liturgical and
theological takes.
Okay, he's obviously okay withwhat we do do you want to know?

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
what he said was our most um outrageous take that he
was.
That was the thing he wasreally uh upset about.
Okay, so the most egregioustake I've heard you guys make is
that taking children to thenovus ordo can be damaging to
their soul, along with othercomments in a similar vein.
Happy to discuss anything, havea great day.
So he may come on and discussthat with us.

(01:07:01):
And I said to him it soundssomething more like Rob would
have said.
I don't think I would have saidit quite like that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
You said it like that .

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
But I know what I would say is the Novus Ordo as
it's presented in its form inthe majority of parishes can be
damaging to your child's faith.
I don't think I would say itwould be damaging to their soul,
as if going to the Novus Ordowould send you to hell or
something.
But I think the Novus Ordo asit's presented in the majority

(01:07:30):
of parishes can absolutelydamage a child's faith, because
it damaged my faith.
It made me lose my faithbecause it was presented in such
a cartoonish way that it didn'tpresent true Catholicism to me.
And it wasn't until I waspresented with true Catholicism
that I started to take my faithseriously and it and it
stabilized my faith and I I'vefound that it's pretty similar

(01:07:53):
for my own children, Right.
So if I was taking them to thehappy clappy, local Novus Ordo,
I think it would be damaging totheir faith.
Now he may disagree with that,but he also admitted he goes to
a unicorn, Novus Ordo, I guess Iwould have asked him if he had
children.
That's another good question.
But he also said he goes to aunicorn Novus Ordo.
Now I almost feel like peoplethat are in that situation are

(01:08:16):
being selfish, because justbecause you found a unicorn nova
sordo, which I don't even knowif there are, that many of those
and a lot of people think theyhave a unicorn nova sordo
because they let you receive orsomething.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
But my priest doesn't wear a clown suit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I'm in a unicorn, nova sordo no, but it's like
there there's, you know, I don'tknow, maybe maybe they do have
the ad orientum, the Gregorianchant.
Only altar boys receiving, onlykneeling in on the tongue.
I don't think that's veryfrequent.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Yeah, they do, until the next bishop comes in.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
And that's the other thing, right so yeah.
I would make that comment undercertain circumstances.
I wouldn't just say the NovusOrdo inherently could damage
your child's soul, but the wayit is presented in a lot of
places definitely could.
So we'll have that discussionwith him.
And then we had another youngguy came on last night who said

(01:09:11):
he's a new convert.
He came in just this pastEaster and he said that our show
has helped him immensely.
So, like you know what it is,our show is kind of weird
because a lot of times we'rejust goofing around or we're
talking about something that'sgoing on in the culture, and
then other times something comesup deep and we wind up going
into something theological.
You never know where we'regoing to end up.
So have any plans.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
We have one on the show right now I'm on every
episode.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
What are you talking about?
Um, if, um, oh, the kid that Itook the kid this is an update
um, the kid that I took tochurch, uh, so the the following
week I wasn't able to take himand then I asked him to come.
This past sunday was, yeah, wasit this past?
Yeah, this past sunday I him tocome and he had a death in his
family and his entire family hadto attend church together
because they had a death in thefamily.
And I didn't want to dig toodeep because I'm not that close
with the kid yet.
So supposedly he's going tocome this Sunday coming up.

(01:10:11):
He just couldn't make it lastSunday, so he is going to come
again.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Nice, what was I going to say?
Oh, um, what did like betrayyour trust or something.
If, like, I somehow got likesome of your DNA like through
saliva and sent it into like 23and me under a fake name to
figure out if you are Africanunder a fake name.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
I would do it.
Okay, Under a fake name.
I would do it Okay, Under afake name.
I'll send it in myself.
Will they let you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
I mean just say, your name is Nicholas Cavazos.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Yeah, I'll do that, and then we'll tell everybody
Nick Cavazos is really African.
We'll have proof because we'llhave paperwork to say it.
It would be hilarious, holy cow.
Do we have an update for thistoo?
Um, how's the boat repairscoming?
I got a call today that themotor came in.

(01:11:08):
I'm like, oh awesome, right intime for winter.
I'm half tempted to tell theguy to keep the boat.
What do I want?
What do I want it for thewinter?
I don't even want it anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
It's too cold to even go on it yeah, I mean there
might be full-on civil war bynext spring.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
You might never use it again I'm not 70, but I'm
probably about okay.
So let's figure this out.
My mom my mom is 50 irish and50 italian.
My dad is uh 75 italian andlike 25 german so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
So you're, you're 60 to 62.5 italian, 25 irish, and
what would that be then 12?
Would that be 12.5%, oh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
my God, the Italian thing is a LARP.
I'm a mutt, I'm a legit mutt,and my kids forget it Because my
wife's like German-Hungarian,so my kids have even less.
Yeah, but your son.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Your son sounds like you man.
I know you think he does it.
But, last night.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
he sounds like Zoomer you you think so, a hundred
percent, man Really.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Yeah yeah, he was probably a little nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
He doesn't have the New York accent like I do, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Yeah, he does, but it's just not quite as strong.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
He was probably pretty nervous because I heard
he was like talking really loudbecause he wanted to make sure
the mic picked him up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
It didn't sound loud to me, though.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
So.
But I but I was right next tohim and he was like trying to
like make sure you got.
But I saw even the way he wasmoving like he was a little
nervous.
He wanted to make sure heperformed well on the show.
New Catholic here.
Thanks to you too, I'm going tomy second TLM mass this sunday
and an fssp.
But this is what I mean.
You guys don't know.
You don't know how theseconversations come here.
I just know I'm gonna have togive bruce holstead an apology
after the show I tried I feelguilty already.

(01:13:05):
I don't know why I do stuff likethat, because it I just got
frustrated.
I tried telling you I gotfrustrated and I don't like
doing that, um, not to somebodywho doesn't deserve it.
I don't think she deserves it,it was just I think.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
I know we're just all on we have short tempers this
week, man yeah, definitely, butI know what she's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
She's trying to find a way this is, she was all right
.
All right, I'm that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I'm not apologizing that it.
I'm standing by what I said.
I mean, look at my.
It should be a standardantipology.
That's part of the outro.
Look at my pinned tweet Angela.
I do do this too much, like Ilose my temper.
I say something and then likeright away I feel bad and I'm
like, oh man, and I'm a lotbetter about it now, but when I

(01:14:05):
was younger, when I was younger,it was bad.
I haven't like in my, in mypersonal life.
I haven't had to give anapology in years.
But there was a time where Iwould always fly off the handle,
lose my temper and make, and Iknew if somebody was mad at me I
knew it was 99% my fault,because I have a tendency to
either say something offensiveor something.
So I was always quick toapologize because I know I'm a

(01:14:27):
bit much Um, but it's been years, like in my, in my, it's been
years in my personal life.
I haven't, I haven't really hadan issue with my tempering
years.
I haven't.
I.
And even the sarcasm in mypersonal life has really really
reduced.
Like I take it out on you guyson the show.

(01:14:47):
Now you guys are, you guys areamazing for my, my personal life
.
I must say I do all thesarcastic you know joking on
here and then I go into my reallife and I'm very kind to my
wife and children and all myrelationships.
Is there an Irish to bizlarpipeline?
Yeah, I saw some kid, patrick,who's pretending he's Orthodox.

(01:15:08):
And we do, patrick, stop it.
Stop it, patrick.
You're not Orthodox.
You don't have some deep.
I have some mystical, easternspiritual.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
I shut up your name's , patrick, stupid you eat
potatoes, not, uh, not greekhummus.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I honestly have more respect for, like a, a
presbyterian.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Don't wait right, there is right.
There is an irish to bislarpipeline.
There is an irish to bislarpipeline.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
But bobby freely admits that if there was a Latin
mass near him he would go tothat.
He's just kind of stuck in likebad Novus Ordo land and it's
either bad Novus Ordo land or Igo to the east.
So he started going to the.
He might actually have somelike Eastern tendencies now
because he's been there for solong.
But I still want to punch himin his face when he makes a sign

(01:15:55):
of the cross backwards for solong.
But I still want to punch himin his face when he makes a sign
of the cross backwards.
Just looks weird.
Irish guy named bobby makingthe sign of the cross upside
down.
No, backwards, not upside down.
He makes it right till.
It's weird.
You go like I see by and theydon't do like this, like they
don't go up here, they go fromhere down to their knees and
then they come across and theyhave to make like a big show of

(01:16:16):
it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
So so iggy tired of it.
Iggy, my four-year-old, he heoften makes the sign of the
cross like that, because youknow when you're watching
someone make it, it's so he likehe make this oh, he's mimicking
, so you?
Know he'll do it backwards andone day I'm like stop it.
You look greek huh Like don'tworry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Never mind, stop it.
You look Greek.
Oh man, I'm actually Bobby andI are, so my uncle's selling the
place.
We have one weekend left at theplace and Bobby's going to come
and drive up and meet me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
You're going to bring some guns.
He always does.
Bobby bring good.
Uh, I don't know how many youhave, but bring good, carry guns
.
Because on local they answeredwe were gonna walk through
applying for a new york ccwpermit tonight yes, uh, I am
beginning the process.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
so, um, I I spoke to a friend at work who has his and
he's like, like it's really notdifficult, it's just a long
wait.
You just got to fill a bunch ofpaperwork out and you got to be
meticulous about it, make sureyou don't make any mistakes on
it, and then you submit it andthen it's just a waiting game.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Yeah, so I mean it used to be New York and some
other states were what wascalled the May issue, where you
had to show some sort of causeor reason issue, where you had
to show some sort of cause orreason but a supreme court
decision made that basicallyillegal.
Every state now is legallysupposed to be shell issue,
where as long as you aren'tprohibited by law, they have to

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issue it.
But those states that were mayissue have made it basically
just make it to where there'ssuper long wait times, hoping
people just decide not to do it,which is why you haven't done
it up to this point.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Maybe we should do that on a Monday Guns and
Rosaries show instead of tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
That's a good idea actually.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
And maybe we can teach the audience how to go
about doing it.
For those who are seeking to doit, maybe you guys will have me
on as a guest and you guys willhelp me do that on a Guns and
Rosaries episode.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Now I don't know about New York, but if it's like
Minnesota and I think most so,there's like 29 states that are
constitutional carry to where,as long as you're not prohibited
, you can just do it.
You don't need a permitMinnesota you do, and most

(01:18:37):
states that do do.
I think you have to take somesort of stupid class in the
class.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Yeah, you have to take a gun safety class.
Absolutely, and it is stupid,but it's between 6 and 12 months
is what my friend told me, butyou do have to take a gun safety
class I see minnesota has a lawwhere you submit it to your
sheriff and they have to giveyou a decision in 30 days.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
I wish they have to, by law, give you a decision in
30 days and honestly, it's liketwo weeks most of the time yeah,
I mean it could be quicker,that's just I think new york
just likes to give you a hardtime about everything.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
So yes um, let's see anthony at the three white claws
.
All right, I killed the fishand then wrecked the boat.
I posted one picture of apumpkin beer with a sugared rim
glass today and everybody calledme gay.
I'm like I got fiduciasupplicants on my side.

(01:19:31):
You know, you guys, I just lovethat Rob's drinking bourbon and
every time he takes a sip he'slike just try to get it down
like you're enjoying it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
I mean alcohol.
Is alcohol right like?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
it has that effect no matter what, but there is other
flavors you can appreciatethere pumpkin beer is based,
especially with the.
I put brown sugar on the rim.
It's good.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Pumpkin beer is fine.
Beer made from pumpkins is fine.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Pumpkin spiced beer is gay let me explain something
to you.
I took rob to pennsylvania andI gave him a pumpkin beer with a
sugar rim and a shot of vanillawhipped cream fake news
everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
That is what we call fake news here in the business I
promise you it's not fake andhe goes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I hate to admit it, but this is well, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Of course it tastes good it's pumpkin flavored beer
with sugar on the rim.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Of course it tastes good, whatever anthony drinks,
the gayest drinks I do, I don'tcare, I'm not ashamed of it, I
don't.
I mean, I'll drink whatever isput in front of me.
Like, if we're gonna go hardliquor, I will drink, uh, gin or
tequila.
I can drink tequila straight,like I don't need ice nothing
I'll just drink a glass oftequila, tequila I love tequila,

(01:20:46):
tequila I could drink just onthe rock, squirrel on the
guinness.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
That was the craziest thing I've ever seen.
What was that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
in detroit, I ordered the guinness and it comes out
with oh, that's right, hold on,let me see if I forgot about all
the all of you, not on twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Let me see anthony anthony's looking at the drink
meeting.
He goes what do you think Ishould get?
Don't just ask the waitress,who was a woman, what she likes
to drink and you'll probablylike it meanwhile they were like
some tough irish girls.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
I don't know.
They're probably going to tracksome some nasty stuff over
there, those chicks okay, uh,let me see.
Here's the picture yeah, lookat how well done this.
It had to be a press orsomething like there's no way
some stamp or something Right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
So that is, that is on the head of the beer.
Yeah, just crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Pretty crazy, yeah, um yeah, they had some really
interesting Irish food, like Robgot a shepherd's pie and it was
just basically a baked potato.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Yeah, they used a huge, like a huge baked potato.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
I never saw a shepherd's pie like that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
It was wild you know, I I didn't say it then because
you were too busy talking, likeusual, but um, I realized at
that moment that I loveshepherd's pie because it is
just tater tot hot dish yeah,basically right.
Yeah, no, it's not tater tothot yes, it is made with lamb
instead of grand beef, butotherwise it's got the same

(01:22:19):
other form knock it off.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
It is not um, uh, which I?
I that that, um, that thisstupid thief on the cross tweet
is making the rounds on facebookagain by like heavy metal bible
group or something like.
They're passing that stupidtweet around.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Well, at least Vanity Fair didn't get ahold of that
one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Yeah, All right.
Wait, do we have anything elsein the thing that we wanted to
discuss before we go to locals?
I don't know, Rob, you'reyou're just buying the story.
You're buying the story thatthat kid, that that kid did it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
I think it is the most likely thing now.
I mean, is it likely he wasconnected with some sort of
larger organization online?
Yeah, but I mean that there Imean he he was part of the what
the Democrat Socialists ofAmerica, dsa, you know, maybe
the John Brown Gun Club orsomething like that.

(01:23:23):
There's lots of Antifa-type,anarchist sorts of militias that
he very well could have been apart of.
I mean, is it possible thatmaybe someone from Israel was,
you know, posing as someoneonline to influence him?
Yeah, I don't know, it'sdefinitely possible.
But when it comes right down toit, I do think that one kid

(01:23:48):
performed the action you know,pulled the trigger and escaped
and was turned in by his dad.
It's kind of a weird story, Idon't know, but I'll go with you
on this life is weird, rightlike yeah, we're all used to
movies being having everything.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
I'm so cynical at this point from all the crap
they've done that I'm justskeptical of everything now and
anything that they present to us.
I'm just like, yeah, I don'tbelieve, like, and that's a bad
way to be, like, it's like Iwant this to really be the thing
and that we got the guy and Ithink that he should get the
electric chair.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
There is no reason to say this.
You're literally just makingstuff up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
I'm with you, Murphy family.
There's no reason to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
I'm with you, man.
You have to have some sort ofevidence before you make an
asinine claim.
All right, fine.
But like I don't, know If youdon't think you did it then what
happened?

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Look, it's okay to agree to disagree, rob, like you
can have your opinions.
Okay, charlie Kirk, you'regullible and I'm not.
I don't know, man, dude, I havesuch a hard time believing that
this is just this.
And I'm not saying you're likesilly for believing it.

(01:25:01):
I'm saying I am so jaded that Iand I have no evidence to back
up my version of events.
I just, I don't know.
I'm gonna see israel behindeverything at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Okay, I, I know I.
What would be the point?
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
What would they gain?
All right, wait.
Well, when I tried to get intoit before you freaked out on me,
I'm just what would they gain?
So if Charlie Kirk right, I'mjust throwing things here.
This is just what I'm thinkingIf Charlie Kirk and look, this
is just a hypothesis, guys, youdon't have to be mad at me, I'm
just saying, hypothetically,let's say you got the kid.

(01:25:41):
He's pumped in with the Zionistmoney and he's doing everything
they want, and then he startsto turn.
If Charlie Kirk turns, he'staking a lot of people with him.
If he gets off the Zionistbandwagon.
If they're found out how manymore people turn, hear me out.
They never get found out.
They get away with everything.
They got away with the towers,bro Stop.

(01:26:04):
I'm just saying If he goes downas a martyr, he serves a way
greater purpose to them than ifhe actually converts away from
their thing and drags hismillions of listeners along with
him and starts pointing out thewhat, because what that article
was saying is that his namedoes no good if everyone thinks

(01:26:25):
israel did it but not everyonethinks israel did it.
Everyone thinks this kid did it?
No, that's what I'm seeingonline you do I'm not everyone
people like me that think israeldid it but, like the majority
of people, think what you think,dude, they're very good.
That's do.
I'm not everyone people like methat think israel did it but,
like the majority of people,think what you think, dude,
they're very good.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not.
Listen.
This is I have.

(01:26:45):
No, I have no evidence for whatI'm saying.
I understand.
I'm the crazy one here.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
The, the okay the only potential motive that I
think would make sense for themto have done it is I haven't
heard anyone mention epstein nowfor a few days, okay, but also
like no, you're saying, look,you guys have no idea how into
like twitterverse you are.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Like everyone's thing is israel is really just a
bunch of crazy people on twitter.
But like no, you you talk toanybody in the in your regular
life.
They're like, oh, they caughtthe kid, like that's just the
way.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
It is no one of my nut jobs like me.
They don't care about anyone inmy regular life all right, we
got to do this becauseeverybody's right, 90 of people
don't care one way or the other,so that's not who they're
trying to influence somebody wassaying do we get anything else
on locals besides the extra show?
Well, this is what we do,usually the jew talk, but I
guess youtube is getting thattonight all right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
So wait, we're gonna no, we're gonna save that for
locals because I will, I will, Iwill.
I'll give my theories on that,on locals.
But I do want to ask thiseverybody's a little mad at me
because I, because of myresponse to this could you bring
yourself to turning your ownchild over to the police if they
confess to murder?
And I said, zero chance, I'draise a murderer.

(01:28:01):
You know, I'd never raise amurderer, like there's no chance
.
But in the off chance my sonhad a psychotic break.
I don't think I'd turn him overto the government.
I don't, because in my mindit's like, if my son has a
psychotic break like this, kiddid I think the government made
him do no?
no, this kid did not have apsychotic break but if my son

(01:28:21):
did this, it would have to be apsychotic break and it would
have to be, but that's adifferent scenario.
Okay, so let's just okay.
So wait, would I?
All right, man, all right.
So I now I know why everybody'smad at me, because I I'm
thinking very particularly aboutthis situation.
But so if my son yeah, I wouldprobably, I would probably talk
my son into turning himself inand I want him to go to

(01:28:41):
confession and have remorse andand pay the pay, the price for
the crime he committed.
So it was just some, you know,if he, like, got heated in a
fight with a girlfriend and itwent too far and he took her
life, or something like, yeah, Iwould, I would.
Oh, that's why you're mad at meoh man, it's not backpedaling.

(01:29:06):
I was thinking, in thisparticular situation, like this
guy would have been better offtaking his son behind the
woodshed and taking care of ithimself than turning him over to
the feds.
You're not wrong about that?
Yeah, like honestly, this guywould have been better off if
his son actually did do this.
Just take him out of thewoodshed.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Take him to church, go to confession.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Go to confession and then do the thing.
That's inadmissible.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Did you see Modern Boethius today, by the way?

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
No, what did he say?

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
All day all about no, not that they've caught him,
they can't kill him because thatwould be immoral, dude that's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
But these guys, because I'm telling you now that
like they just have to findsome way to, because it would
not, it would be unjust to notput that like for what he did to
scar the nation.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Yes, like there's nothing more deserved to america
to the daughters, the, the sonand daughter, uh, to the nation
as a whole, to everyone who sawthat video.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
That would be injustice yeah, I think so, yeah
, voting, I think my son out tothe mission.
Come on, fredo, let's go.
Yeah, all right.
So maybe I have to, you know,maybe I have to like put an

(01:30:27):
asterisk next to that.
Tweet a bit, somebody said bothof.
Avoiding Babylon.
Guys putting out the mostdog-esque takes today, shame on
both of you.
Wait who A layman?

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Pious, pious, pray for us I don't know on twitter
account everybody's on twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
This one, yeah, terrible position so you would
lie, motivate your son to lie,risk the police, arrest the
wrong person.
What was my bite?
What was my bad take?

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
I don't know.
You always have bad takes.
All your takes are bad.
You think this guy is a realcriminal.
You think this guy's a realperp?
Come on, that's a terrible take.
All of a sudden, you'retrusting of the federal
government.
What is going on with you?

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
No, I'm not.
The federal government couldn'teven catch the guy.
His dad did.
That is true.
Cross-eyed Cash Patel can onlyjust sit there and say.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
I'm going gonna meet you.
How awful was what today, mybrother, I'll see you in
belhalla.
Dude, we gotta stop havingthese guys in positions of like
what is going on?

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
he's running the fbi, this guy I wouldn't trust him
with the 7-eleven but you trustyour son to him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
What If your son did something?
You're going to hand him overto Kash Patel?
No, that's all I was saying.
My son did something like this.
I'm not handing him over toKash Patel, but you just said
you actually would.
No, I said if it was a localpolice matter and my son did
something locally, I would wantmy son to confess and have

(01:31:58):
remorse and own up to it.
But a situation specificallylike this, I don't think I'm
handing my son over to KashPatel, because who knows what
those guys are going to do tohim over there and convince him
that he did something heprobably didn't.
I don't believe any of that.
This is another MKUltra thingor something I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
It's like what I was saying with after the
enunciation thing.
It used to be MKUltra.
You'd do acid and they'd hookyou on porn, basically, and fry
your brain that way.
Nowadays they don't have to dothat.
Every kid is already addictedto do that every kid is uh

(01:32:38):
already addicted pornography andtheir brain is soaked in
serotonin from ssri is like umokay okay, do you see?

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
I put the in the in the show notes, I put retraction
.
It was not israel that killedcharlie kirk.
It's a tweet in there.
You see it, it's right abovethe sarah stock.
Yeah, yeah, play that video.
Let's play that video and tellme what you think, because I
don't.
Here's the thing I wasn't why?

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
why do you believe every schizo video?
You see, I don't.
This is my point.
I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
I wasn't able to actually like find out what
happened today because I waslike busy at work and then I
came home and I was messingaround all day on twitter and
stuff like that, so I didn'tactually get to hear like what
the fbi presented.
I didn't hear the newsconference or anything no, they
didn't present much.
that's what I mean, so, butlet's, let's play this kid's
video and you tell me if he'slike I mean he's, he's saying no

(01:33:33):
, no, the government told us thetruth and I don't know it.
Just everything just seems soweird to me.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
I mean there's definitely weird things, like
the weird boomers shoutingthings.
But then again there's a lot ofweird boomers in the world.
Like, if you look at historylike you mentioned the art, the
assassination of Franz Ferdinandyou actually read like what
happened, like the events offranz ferdinand.
You actually read like whathappened, like the events of

(01:34:00):
that day.
You'd be like no way, that'sthe truth, ain't no way if if
that happened today, right, yeah, because like, wasn't it like
the guy was supposed to get himand he missed him?

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
and he was coming around another corner and
another guy got?
Him and he just like ended uplike he just happened to be
right in front of the guy theywere were going to throw a
grenade and the grenade explodedbut really didn't do much.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
So they they escaped and went to differ on and he
went to a cafe to sit there andit just happened to be.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
the guy was right in front of him and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
Yeah, so he's sitting in the cafe having, you know,
drinks be like, oh, I screwed,screwed up, and then, next thing
, you know, the different routethey decided to take brings
france fernand, right inside ofthe right outside of the cafe
and he just is able to stand upand shoot him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Yeah, all right, play the kid's video.
Let's see what you think.
You can break it down for me,because I didn't see all this
stuff and I need to.
I need to know, I need to know.
This kid's saying look guys,all of you, like he's this kid's
convincing me that thinks ithave been Israel.
I'm wrong, that's all.
So let's see.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
I want to take a second to issue a retraction in
regards to the alleged killer ofCharlie Kirk.
We're being told that it wasnot an Israeli conspiracy.
It was, according to the FBI,the act of a lone gunman named
Tyler Robinson a deranged lonegunman who just happened to have
not one but two patsies in thecrowd.
We're also now being told thatit was his father, matt Robinson

(01:35:22):
, now hailed as the father ofjustice, who turned his son into
the authorities.
In a press conference shortlythereafter, fbi Director Kash
Patel proudly announced that thesuspect was apprehended in
record time quote in less than36 hours, 33 to be precise,
according to CNN.
A family member toldinvestigators that Robinson had

(01:35:42):
quote become more political inrecent years and that the
authorities had also discoveredanti-fascist messages engraved
on the ammunition.
Prime Minister Netanyahu wenton Fox News, though, to claim
that Charlie Kirk wasassassinated by a combination of
quote radical Islamists andultra progressives.
Now, in terms of the murderweapon, the fbi stated that they
found the shooter's rifle inthe woods, fully assembled, and

(01:36:05):
here is robinson, caught on cctvfootage, making that get away
from the rooftop with said rifleyeah, in his right hand it's
actually rather visible in hishand, okay, but he disassembles
it and then he puts it backtogether before he leaves it, he
doesn't just assemble ityes, people have been telling me
that the barrel can bedisassembled in seconds, which?

(01:36:28):
He put back together in thewoods to hide it from authority
it wasn't just that.
Now no more questions.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Because it looks like a fully assembled rifle in
fabric in his hand.
That's why.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
I don't care what you say, rob, I'm right in your
room, this guy told me, this guytold me, and I trust him over
you and that's just yeah.
Dude, I'll be honest Likethere's no way we'll ever know
it's the mormons.
He had his rifle hidden in hismagic underwear.
Look, I know, like my, mytheory has no basis in reality.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
That's fabric with the rifle inside in his hand.
His backpack is on his back.
You can see that there's not abag in his hand when rob is
convinced of something.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
I'm just saying never change his mind.
You'll never convince rob.
He missed, he got somethingwrong, it's all you know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
You see him lay a obviously rigid, straight object
on the roof as he climbs down.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Then he grabs it surveys over and drops it on the
ground before he jumps down youguys, you guys, you guys
trusting, you guys taking rob'sstory, you trust in me because I
am telling you I know I knowthese people, they want to hold
on hold on the roof I bookmarkedsome stuff today because I knew

(01:37:55):
this was coming wait.
No, we no.
We're doing it on Locals, we'renot doing it here.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
No, no, you made your case on YouTube, so screw you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
You do have a few fans on your side.
Janice is with Rob Jenna's withme, come on.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Post-sleeping 2.0.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Could you imagine we had a legit fight over whether
we think the massage is behindthis could you imagine we had
like a legit fight over an?

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
interview with kennedy in 10 minutes uh, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
I'm not buying rob's story.
I don't think it's true.
I'm I'm saying and I'm justgoing by default, because I
think it's always them.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
I think it's always them anthony, you ever notice
that when someone starts talkingabout the jews, everything is
always the jews.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
I don't want to be like that I don't want to be
like that.
I'm not like I don't want to belike that, but it's always them
.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
I can't help it if it's always them you're not
allowed to drink bourbon anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
You get too chatty.
You just that's it.
I'm not.
You get too chatty when youdrink bourbon.
I'm not okay with this.
You're supposed to go alongwith all my crazy theories
You're used to quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
Rob, yeah, I like quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Rob.
I don't like this, rob.
That pushes back on everythingI say.
It's not okay.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
I better be careful, or I'm going to get a text from
your mom about how mean I am toyou again.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Yes, I want to know what Father Ballsy thinks,
because if he tells me I'm righton his side, okay, we can go
over to locals, all right.
Yeah, we're going to come on.
We're at an hour and 40.
We gave you guys a very longYouTube show tonight, but we're
going to go have some real funand we're going to actually
argue about this, becausethere's things I can't say over

(01:39:40):
here that I am going to say overthere.
And I know we don't want everyLocals episode to be about this,
but this kind of calls for it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
It is every Locals episode, though.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
It's not everyone, but it's most of them.
It's like 90%.
Yeah, who's thatble comment?

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
we got a rumble comment get america divided, our
focus shifts away from themiddle east if the people in
this chat are the future.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
We're screwed all right, let's see how many of you
people are locals members,because we're going to locals
and let's just see we have.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
I mean it says 386 now, yes, 386 on youtube it says
there's 380 on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
It says there's 1,200 on my X, which is impossible,
and 400 on Rob's X.
So it says there's 2,000 people.
See, see, we've been tellingthat of a lot of local shows
recently, not lately.
We haven't talked about it in awhile, Are you sure?
Don't leave us, come with us.

(01:40:38):
You guys are all invited.
You're all invited.
You guys have to stop beingcheap, like it's getting
ridiculous.
You have to support yourfavorite show.
Bring back locals to Spotify.
Yeah, we used to give you guysthe free audio.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Okay, so for those of you who don't know, I haven't
done a good job of mentioningthis, but so there are now two
ways to listen to the local showon audio.
No, they're not free anymorelike they used to be, so sorry
about that.
But if you listen to applepodcast, there is now an option
to subscribe to.
You have to call it somethingdifferent than the usual show,

(01:41:18):
so I just did what everyone elsewas doing instead of avoiding
babylon plus.
So for three dollars I knowwell, I'm not even talking about
what you're thinking about,anthony.
Everyone else besides them wasdoing wait a minute wait.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
I have to.
I have to address this.
You're telling me you are alocals member for matt frad and
not us.
If you're going to tell me youget more entertainment out of
Fradd than us, honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
I'm not even knocking Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
I'm not even knocking Matt.
This is not a knock to Matt,but we are way more Matt's not
highlighting your comments.
You got to be kidding me.
Abandon Matt and come over tous.
You think Matt Fr Brad needsyour money?
How much money that guy's got.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
You kidding me, anthony has a boat to repair.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Seriously, you do not know this.
I think he has like four houses.
I don't know that's actually.
I'm just picking that up.
I have no idea what he has, butthe guy's got way more money
than we do.
Matt Brad sends beer mugs.
Well yeah yeah, we're not, we'rejust mad frat, if you guys want
to, you know what we'll come upwith a 25 tier and we'll send
you a seven dollar mug.
We'll do what matt does?

(01:42:26):
I mean you just want to pay 25a month for a seven dollar mug?
We'll send it over.
We can do that.
We try to just be honest withyou guys.
You're gonna choose wagner overus.
I don't blame you.
Wagner's got some pretty gooduh mitt molly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
We can't, it literally does not allow us well
yeah, we can't, we could bringthe whole.
You know what.
You know who's at fault.
Who owns locals?
The jews?

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
dave rubin.
Dave rubin, um wait, what didsomebody say about Wagner?
I missed it.
What did it say?
Rather be a member for Wagnerthan a patron for AB.
Wagnerite supremacy and bros'children's need.
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
First off, wagner's doing better than we are on here
.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
He's just saying he'd rather support Wagner than us.
But first off, we love Wagner.
So if you're supporting Wagner,don't leave Wagner.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
I had like an hour-long conversation with
Christian today.
You know conference calls exist.
Thanks, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Well, no, yeah, you're right, I should have
added you in.
Well, sometimes I just callpeople cause I just want to like
, yeah, yeah, and I called.
I called him today and I wasjust like checking in on him
cause he hasn't been doing ashow.
So, like I just like to checkin on people and just see how
he's doing and we have.
So he's going to come on andwe're going to talk about
Catholic action and and what theright approach is and what we

(01:43:54):
should be doing as Catholics.
But we had yeah, we had someother call.
We had some other conversationstoo about ways we could help
each other and things like that.
So there's going to be somecollaboration with him coming up
soon too.
So, all right, we're going togo over to locals.
I like to check in on my friend, all my friends, I, I, I do
check in with everyone, exceptfor Matt Fraggs.

(01:44:15):
He doesn't take my callsanymore.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Yeah, what the heck is this?
He doesn't even drink on air.
Matt doesn't even drink withhis audience.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
like Rob Matt would take my call if I called him.
I'm just teasing.
We'll do this on Locals.
Let's go to Locals.
I got some gossip over there.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
I'm just going to remove the streams here.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
I'm going to remove the streams.
I'm just gonna remove thestreams here.
I'm not.
Yeah, remove the streams.
We're gonna gossip on locals.
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
People always love coming there for gossip after a
few drinks my ability to worktechnology becomes only slightly
better than anthony the thingis, I'm afraid to tell my story
over there because I'm afraidmargo is gonna.

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