American Pope During an American Crisis

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Once more, you open the door and you'll hear in my
heart, and my heart will go onand on.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I've been paying insurance for all these years.
It's insurance fraud.
I did not see that one.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I know, taffy sent me three he goes this one I
haven't sent to Ant, if you wantto use it.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
That is so freaking, amazing, holy cow.
We talked about that on Locals,though that's not for the
YouTube audience.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Everyone's going to be like what are they talking
about?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
So yeah, for anybody that doesn't know, my boat needs
a new motor, and we were.
We were talking on locals theother night about how the
temptation to commit insurancefraud is there, but obviously I
would never do that, and that'sthe joke taffy's making fun of
well, and it's a, it's a callback to one, to like three years

(01:18):
ago when we did that conspiracyshow and one of the
conspiracies we talked about wasthe tit.
Titanic was for insurance fraud,and not just that, like I know
people have done this bitbecause I've seen it a bunch of
times.
But the, the, the modern, likethis isn't original, obviously,

(01:41):
but like the modernunderstanding of women's, like
romantic, romantic movie.
It's like rose in titanic wasthe worst human being to ever
live like second worst.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
The worst is jenny from jenny from far as gump.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's like those two are the most evil women on the
planet and they're seen as likethe heroines of the film.
It's like Rose had a reallygood man who loved her.
She cheats on him with a guyshe met on, some poor from the
bottom of the boat.
She meets one day after she'salready sleeping with him.

(02:19):
She has the hope diamond orsomething and she could leave it
behind to her grandkids andchildren so that they don't have
to worry about money for therest of their lives.
But no, at the end of the movieshe throws it off the side of
the boat and it sinks to thebottom of the ocean and nobody
ever knows where it is.
She's the most evil, freakingwoman in history.
And then Jenny, jenny fromForrest Gump, that vile girl.

(02:42):
What she did to far as leadinghim on his entire life.
Then she comes back, sleepswith him, has his kid, gets aids
and then dumps the kid off anddies on him.
Like it's just the things thatwomen find romantic are just
beyond normal.
Like I don't.
I don't know how you even putmodern women the titanic lady
was the very first boomer.

(03:03):
The first boomer just throwingthrowing her children's
inheritance right off the sideof the ball in memory of some
stupid poor patty what that'sthe, that's the that's the worst
part, he was some bum some bum.
She met and and and, like, hasan affair and then she winds up
marrying the guy that, like that, she cheated on and she tells

(03:25):
her kids like she never reallyloved their father, like what an
evil woman.
Jenny and rose program modernwomen.
Yeah, it's not even a, it's noteven a stretch, like every
single rom-com is.
Every single rom-com is about awoman who's in a stable,
healthy relationship and shelooks for every way to throw it

(03:48):
away, throws it away and cheats,and that's romance for women
and it's like it's just makes nosense.
Like the notebook, every, everysingle rom-com is like that.
And her vision of heaven iswith the guy she cheated with
and not the father of her child.
Yeah, it's like vile stuff.
And it has programmed womenLike it's it has.

(04:10):
Because that stuff has apsychological effect on you when
you watch it.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
It's got to be one reason why so many women in
their, you know, when they hittheir 30s or whatever they Sleep
with their 15-year-old students.
I mean, that's not where I wasgoing with it, okay, no, this is
a freaking epidemic right now.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
See the Catholic school counselor that just was
weeping in court.
She just got sentenced to threeyears in prison.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Is it for real?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
no oh my gosh, I mean I don't doubt it yeah, the
there was a woman, gosh.
I mean, I haven't seen anything.
I don't doubt it.
Yeah, there was a woman who wasa counselor at a Jesuit high
school and she was 42 years old.
Her student was 16, and shestarted a romantic relationship

(05:01):
with him.
When he wanted to get out, shethreatened to kill herself.
The kid finally came out now.
Okay, so I used to have adifferent perspective on this
stuff and my perspective haschanged.
I'm not going to get into whypeople that are that are locals
members, understand why, but Iused to.
I used to have a more.
I used my my opinion of it usedto be like, oh you know, it's

(05:24):
not my opinion of.
It used to be like, oh you know, the guy isn't a victim in it,
things like that.
But the more I see howpredatory these women are, the
more disgusted I am by it.
And this woman is disgusting.
She has children like teenagechildren.
Think about the reputationdamage and like how embarrassed

(05:44):
her kids are.
Like the thought ofconsequences and what you're
going to do to the people aroundyou didn't even enter this
woman's mind.
She ruined her entire familyall for what to get a little
attention from.
Like they're psychotic, some ofthese women um that's, that's a
fact.
So it was all over the news.
I saw oh, oh, she's talking.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh, I ran um I don't see anything on middle east
spectator about it either, soyeah, let's.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Uh, let's, let's see with that.
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(08:03):
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Speaker 3 (08:07):
I know Time to throw $10 a month away, then Don.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
All streams are now Ant complaining about his boat
and asking his viewers for money.
That is not actually the case.
It was the last stream becausemy boat broke.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
And I tell you guys what's going on in my personal
life.
First off, anyone who's watchedthe channel knows that every
stream from june through aboutmid-september is complaining
about the boat.

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Okay, it really is and then december, to like march
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Grover never throws super chatsup.
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Actually, if he doesn't, it's because every time
he does, I never put them up.

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Well, they're usually a bit much, right.
That's why I can't do it.
Grover, his super chats areusually a bit much.
I need the apocalypse to happenso I can never hear about this
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(09:13):
like you manifested leo the14th.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I will say this oh, taffy, throwing out all right,
let's go for the boat fun, rob'sboat fun.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I almost bought a canoe this year that would
probably be fun be out ofboundaries, of the, the boundary
waters, yeah be out ofboundaries, uh, the, the
boundary waters, yeah, um, Iwill say this.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I did come on this show.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Everyone is saying this.
I yeah, I mean probably we'll.
We'll try to check the news forthat.
Um, I did come on this showabout a month or two ago saying
the end of the world is comingand that everything I thought
about Trump is nonsense.
And I just see, I don't know, Ihad, I had this.

(09:52):
I just thought everything withRussia and Ukraine is going to
escalate, which it has.
War with Iran is coming, and Isaid before Trump's term is up,
the world will be at war.
On top of that, we have thesephony riots going on in america
like these, these cia nonsenseriots.

(10:15):
I think I did send the video um,yeah, you did of uh, mike ben's
so cia handbook on how to turnprotests to riots.
Play that clip real quick.
It's only a minute.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Once again, you've sent 30 things, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I got list.
I told, I told Rob before theshow started.
I'm like I'm not like I have.
I have had a hard time payingattention to secular news lately
, like everything just seemsfake to me.
Yeah, I just don't honestlycare about it.
Everything just seems so fakeand kayfabe to me that I'm just
like I don't care, like I don'tcare.

(10:55):
La is burning.
Good, burn the whole damn citydown, like New York's burning.
Burn the whole city down.
I don't care at all, it's alljust fake.
They're trying to me it also.
Well, let's play this.
Let's play this clip first, andthen I'll.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I'll tell you what I think 1983 to train CIA
operatives in the field on howto organize riots in foreign
countries.
And here's a tab on usingagitators, including hiring
professional criminals, tomanipulate mass meetings and

(11:28):
assemblies of people in person,which can result in general
violence.
And you will see that theyadvocate for general violence
where the CIA tells the caseofficers.
Our psychological war team mustdevelop in advance a hostile
mental attitude among the targetgroups so that at the given

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moment they can turn their angerinto violence demanding the
rights taken away by the regime.
So make these ethnic minoritygroups so mad at their
government in a general sensethat whenever we snap the
trigger at the given moment,they will turn that general

(12:09):
anger into physical violenceagainst the state that we want
to overthrow.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
But this is a cia I mean, this is clearly what's
happening.
So like these used to beforeign, foreign playbooks and
now they're just turning them onus like they did.
This is this is what all of theUSA USAID money was.
This was what all that was likeEvery time you thought you saw
USAID happening, aid money goingto these other countries.

(12:38):
It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I mean, that's a small part of it.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
USAID is a small part of it.
So so Trump comes in and hecuts off all the USAID money and
everybody's like, yeah, we'refinally defeating the deep state
.
We haven't defeated anythingLike.
You see the war with Russia andUkraine continuing along the
same exact trajectory because itdoesn't matter what, even if
Trump actually does want to endthat conflict, it doesn't matter

(13:04):
.
There are so many differentpieces in place pushing that
escalation that it's just goingto continue on the path.
It's on.

(13:25):
What's happening in America withthese riots seems like it was
just coordinated from early on.
Hearing news drops like in thenews you started hearing.
Well, you know trump when he'sgetting rid of the criminals,
you know people will be all onboard, but are you going to be
okay with trump just going andgetting these poor farmers?
And it's the exact rhetoricthat you're hearing now.
So they, these protests are notorganic.
None of it is.
This is all cia backed fundingto get these organized, to get

(13:47):
these protests organized.
Then they get a couple ofagitators in there.
They lay a pallet of brickshere, a pallet of bricks there,
and all of this is for.
In my opinion, it's becausethey're trying to manufacture
consent on something.
So you're already seeing peoplelike laura loomer come out and
saying we need palantir to go inand do a database and figure

(14:09):
out who these people are.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
It's like it makes me , it actually makes me really
consider trump uh, not beingcontrolled opposition, not being
controlled opposition, but thatthey wanted, they actually
wanted him in in order tobecause they know how divisive
he is, how just you know, proneto you, think about how fast

(14:37):
things escalated in his firstterm.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Right, like, really think about how fast things
escalated under his first term.
Like that was when the maskdropped on the media and it was
like holy cow, I can't believeit.
Like when Trump is in, they getto hit the gas because, oh, we
have to oppose Trump.
So they actually get to pushtheir agenda, their agenda,
faster and harder when Trump isin, because it looks like it's

(15:01):
just opposition to trump.
Can someone just put a link?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
put a link.
Put a link in there, come on,yeah, like show us I and what.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
And no, it's not gonna end.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Live on eb because you guys aren't giving us a link
um but yeah, I guess what I'msaying is like I'm seeing on
disclosed tv justin israelattacks Iran, explosions in
Tehran, but that's justdisclosed TV.
Well, that's a pretty.
They usually don't put thingsout that are wrong.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I'm seeing, yeah, spectator index breaking Israel
is striking targets inside Iran.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Israel declared a state of emergency 12 minutes
ago.
12 minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
This is Israel.
Nick Fuentes says Israel isofficially attacking Iran.
They're trying to drag theUnited States into yet another
one of their wars.
Never forget who is responsible, because he's right.
This is yeah.
This, all of this is just it's.
It is just us doing the biddingof Israel in the Middle East

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Today.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I saw a headline from an Israeli newspaper from 1980.
Do you know what the headlinewas?
No Iran months away fromnuclear weapons.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Gosh dude.
The same narrative has beengoing on for 50 years, four, 45
years.
We've been hearing about Iran's.
They're five years away from a,from a nuclear weapon.
We've been here like my entirelife.
I remember hearing about this.
I mean this whole, the whole.
I mean you put you put up todayabout the uh, the Iraq war,

(16:48):
about the uh, the iraq war.
Yeah, but bring that tweet up,because I actually want to ask
you about that because that wassuch a.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Uh, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm not joking when I say it's a, it's a core memory
of mine yeah, bring that upbecause that's that's an
interesting one, because thiswas right after 9-11 and I
remember, sitting in in myparents, den I was 03, I was 21,
15, so you were 15, I was 21,21.

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I'm sitting in my parents, denand me and my dad were just
sitting on the couch watchingthis and I was like I was, I had
like blood lust.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I was like, yes, let's kill the brown people I
remember watching cnn for dayspre, you know, prior, waiting
for it, waiting for it to start,and I remember when this popped
up on TV Like this Beneath allof this, emergency teams raced

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across.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Let's not play too long, because I don't want to.
I don't want to get a copyrightor anything but that moment it
was go ahead.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
I can picture that in my head like on command.
You know that, that exact videoit's.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's one of those things of oh, where were you
when that happened?
Kind of thing, like I wassitting in the den with my dad
and we were just watching the tv.
It was the first time like warwas broadcast in that way,
because even even afghanistan,like afghanistan, started a lot
smaller.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
It started with special ops team taking, like
the Kandahar airport, and youknow parachuters pair, you know
pair jumping in stuff like that,whereas that those were the
literal first seconds of the warin Iraq.
It was broadcasted live on TV.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, yeah, it was nuts, but because it was so
close to nine 11, nuts but itbut because it was so close to
9-11.
The whole country wanted bloodand retribution for 2,500.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Americans being killed 2,800 Americans uh, what
a year and a half after the fact.
This was March of 03.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
So yeah, 18 months later 18 months later we knew,
we knew that saddam hussein hadnothing to do with 9-11, but we
didn't care, like we just wejust didn't care.
We were like I don't care, justgo, just go bomb the middle
east like just anyone over there, just just drop bombs over
there.
They presented us with theweapons of mass destruction.

(19:41):
Nonsense.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
They did like the sarin shells, all of it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Then it was the, the American troops.
Well you, I remember the videosof the American troops coming
in and the Iraqis wavingAmerican flags.
They were so happy to see us.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
They were so happy to see us.
You remember the the purplefingers from voting.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
No, I don't remember that.
I remember Baghdad.
No, I don't remember that, butI remember bag that bob, oh, oh
I.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I had a deck of cards .
You know what I'm talking aboutyeah with all the faces on it,
I played.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I learned how to play poker with a deck of cards with
iraqi military faces on it, theum that that whole period was
just wild like holy cow man,like it is crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
You think about how hard we fell for propaganda back
then that those um 9-11 andafghanistan and iraq it made me
want to join the military.
I mean it's yeah I.
I spent all of junior high andhigh school trying to get into
the air force academy at westpoint and and stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I mean that, yeah I thought that was maybe start
paying attention to politics.
And then I start listening torush limbaugh and sean hannity
and I'm just chemical aliremember that chemical ali uday,
uday, and um, what was theother one's name, the son uday?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
and?
Oh well, it's not musain's kidsyeah oh man, I forgot them, who
say is it who day?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
and who say something , those kids it's his sons were
they more evil than him.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yes, yeah, they were like beyond evil, those kids, um
well I mean, I guess I justalways bought the story that
they were yeah, no, they werethose.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I, I do think they really bought the story that
they were yeah, no, they were.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
I do think they really were.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah theywere.
I mean, I'm not going to saySaddam was a good guy.
Yeah, I don't buy that.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
No, but you think about how many Iraqi Christians
the Christian presence in theMiddle East was very big back
then Like all of this stuff justwiped christianity out from the
middle east, like it didn'twipe islam out, it wiped
christianity out.
So you you have to think reallyhard about what israel's actual

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intent is in all of this israeland their evangelical uh
puppets.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
I mean, think about that, think how many, think how
many apostolic christians havebeen killed in the middle east
due to the birthplace ofchristianity you're talking.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
You're talking about where christianity the road to
damascus, where paul has hisconversion is in syria yeah,
right, and you think about whatwe just did in syria yeah, you
think about what we just did insyria.
We just overthrew who the hell'sin syria?
Um, was it asad?
Yeah, overthrew asad.

(22:35):
Oh, he's so evil, we got to gethim out.
We literally put in somebodywho we called a terrorist six
months ago.
Now is he renames it with, likethe Democratic something, and
they go throughout Syriamurdering Christians.
It is so vile what they'redoing.

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And all of this is just at thebehest of Israel, of israel.
And and to think that israelisn't behind the riots in
america also, and even thefreaking um, the internet
outages like it's it's just,it's all them, even if they're

(23:16):
like, even if they're not likedirectly behind it, like they're
.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
You know, if, if iran was behind it, well, yeah,
that's still because of israelyou know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I don't think it is.
I think I think the stuff thatis going on in america right now
, I think like, first of all,it's just.
It's just also fake and I don't.
I can't bring myself to evencare about politics anymore when
I don't believe any of it, likeI don't know what's real, I
don't know what, I don't, Idon't care anymore, like they.
They have no.
Israel just claimed the strikeson iran were coordinated.

(23:48):
Of course they were and I'm surethey were well, well, you have
trump getting everybody out ofthe embassies.
You have trump gettingeverybody non-essential
personnel, that that's justprudent.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
You know, if he knew israel was going to do it?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
but that's but if he.
He knew Israel was going to doit.
But if he knows Israel's goingto do it, that means Israel's
doing it in coordination withour intelligence.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Not always, not necessarily.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
I think it is the case yeah, we're getting it from
Twitter.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Twitter is actually the best place for news it is.
It is by far the best place fornews Like it's not even.
It's not even close.
You get things as they'rehappening yeah, israeli media
and 12 says the operation iniran is in coordination with the
us all of this, all of this,all of this, so like when we had

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Mars, friday the 13th, when wehad Maud's, leon it's it's
interesting because I, I it'sit's so crazy how my position
has like been evolving on thisissue because we've, like I, I
never, I never even cared aboutthis topic ever.

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And then I started just seeingweird things happening and then
I just started paying attentionto Maudsley.
And when we had Father Maudsleyon because before he came on, I
would have probably taken theposition that Israel has a
natural right to exist, theydon't have a divine right I
never would have taken thatposition.
I always, I always understoodthe enmity between the older

(25:29):
brother in in scripture.
So like that, and and what'sfunny is I, I actually got that
from Scott Hahn, like it's not,you know.
So like the fact that those guysare kind of silent on this is
what irks me, because all of mybiblical understanding, like my
theological understanding of thestory of Cain and Abel, and

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seeing how, even when, whenJesus is talking to the prodigal
son, when the father is telling, when Jesus is telling the
story of the prodigal son, theolder brother represents Israel
and the younger brotherrepresents the Gentiles, like
all of these stories aresymbolic in explaining how the
people of the old covenant, theyreject the new covenant and God

(26:16):
.
So it's not.
The covenant doesn't go to thefirstborn, it goes to the second
born, like it goes to the, thegentiles.
All of that and myunderstanding of that comes from
the saint paul center forbiblical theology like listening
to scott hans talks and then tosee those guys not speak on
this issue is actuallyheartbreaking.

(26:37):
So I would have held theposition that, oh, israel has,
like, a natural right to theland, but I I didn't understand
it the way I do now until Ispoke with maudsley and
understanding it as no, actuallythe, the modern state of israel
is the kingdom of satan gettinghis foothold in the world, and

(27:02):
it has.
It has a lot to do with thebeast that was, is no longer and
then returns in the apocalypse.
It's like Rome was the beastthat was and is no longer and
then returns in the end timesand understanding that Israel is

(27:24):
the one coordinating this, likeIsrael is the return of Rome.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
So that's what the father saw.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
It has a lot to do with America too, because Israel
is using America as like apuppet to do its bidding.
But to not see it as that, Idon't, I don't, I don't know how
to not see it as that, you know, it's just see it as that, I
don't I don't, I don't know howto not see it as that.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know, it's just.
It's just like how?
Um the jews, after the diaspora, after the, the sacking of the
temple in jerusalem, you knowthey, they used imperial rome to
attack christians.
Yeah, you know, they're theones that were spreading the,
the rumors of, of cannibalismand things like that, to get you

(28:07):
know to look, if you guys goand read the Jewish
revolutionary spirit, like theyare behind every major
revolution.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
All of them are to undermine Christendom, so that
even the Protestant Reformation,things like that.
They're all behind all of thatbecause they want to, they want,
they hate Christendom.
We are the younger brother whosays that the covenant now rests
with us and the God of Abraham,isaac and Jacob has chosen us.
We are now the chosen people.
So that has been going on forthousands of years and they're

(28:40):
finally in a position wherethey've basically neutered
Christendom because people don'teven understand this anymore,
to the point where you haveCatholics and Protestants being
Zionists.
It is the most preposterousposition to take as a Catholic
to be a Zionist.
It is, it is just insane.

(29:01):
And all of the things that we'reseeing, in my opinion, I mean,
even when you look at everythingTrump is doing, trump is it's
just like he's yeah, he's just,he's just their puppet, it's
just enraging man.
It's like I don't know, I don'tso so so I have a choice.
Like do you sit there and youharp on this stuff?

(29:22):
Because there's there's two,two things that happen to you
when you do this.
You see, it happens witheverybody.
It's like you either become theguy who sees that, that the
people, the old covenant behindeverything, or you just say,
okay, I have to, I have to makesure I don't fall victim to the
thing, the traps they've set.
So it's like don't get yourselfinto debt by paying for a boat

(29:48):
motor you can't afford, don't,don't get addicted to
pornography like.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Those are two very, very important ones stay away
from honestly just popular mediain general.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, movies, music, tv, you know all it's so
difficult because it'severywhere.
It's saturated into our culture.
Feminism is that it's justeverywhere, so it's like we have
to.
Yeah, like usury is thecraziest one man.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Which is so hard in modern life.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's so hard because the way they've set it up it's
like Like I rent right now.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Right, how could I ever buy a house without usury?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
So okay, but usury, if you get a, A mortgage is
usury.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
A mortgage is usury.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
You think so Because if you could get a loan at 4%,
that's kind of keeping withinflation, like if something
keeps with inflation, that's notusury.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Usury is the 20% credit card.
I don't think there's anymortgage right now for 4% man.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Not right now.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I mean, yeah, I'm kind of grandfathered in, I
don't know, but if you could geta mortgage at 4%, that's not
technically usury.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, technically is.
Usury is making interest man.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yes, but inflation does go up.
So anything that's kind ofkeeping in line with inflation,
I don't think is consideredusury.
Usury is like if you have acredit card or a car loan,
something like that, that'scharging 17%, 20%, like that is
legit usury.
But I don't know if a mortgageis a mortgage is indentured

(31:34):
servitude, not because of theloan, because of house prices,
because I don't think.
4%, yeah, if there's six and ahalf, 7%, that's now you're
getting into usury territory.
That's where I'm at.
I.
If they're 6.5%, 7%, that's nowyou're getting into usury
territory.
That's where I'm at.
I have 4.25% and I don't thinkthat's technically usury.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
It would have been up until the 19th century, the
church would have definitelyconsidered that usury.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, but now.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
So say I were to buy a $150,000 house, which in our
area is average or above average, even actually At 4% over a
30-year mortgage for a $150,000house, the bank is getting
$257,000.
They're making $107,000.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
But you're paying it over 30 years and inflation is
going up through that time notdub, not almost double yeah, I
mean, yeah, I, I don't know, I'mnot, I'm not, no, I'm not at
all that.
I'm saying I'm trying to findthe actual definition of usury.
I think because I and I'm goingbased on, uh, e michael jones

(32:43):
that's where I this from, I'mnot just spewing things off the
top of my head.
I've heard E Michael Jonesspeak on usury and you'll never
find anybody more critical of itthan him, and his position was
if you have a mortgage with aninterest rate of under 4%,
that's not usury, that's keepingwith inflation.
So if you're keeping withinflation, that's okay, because

(33:06):
people can't loan you money andlose money.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
You have to understand.
Inflation itself is purposeful.
It's part of the Jewish bankingsystem.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
But it is what it is True.
So somebody lends you $157,000.
They can't lose money on thatloan.
157 000 like they, they can'tlose money on that loan.
And if they lend you 157 000,you pay that over 30 years.
That's that they.
You know they need to maketheir three percent to keep up
with inflation, otherwise theywill lose money on it.
Um, uh, next time look at yourmortgage payment.

(33:39):
What percent goes to principal?
Oh yeah, that's, that is theissue, right, so they get their.
They get their interest upfront.
So if you have a 30-yearmortgage, your best bet is to
pay an extra 100 or 200 everymonth to try and knock that
principal balance down wayquicker.
They, they hate that.
Um, I'm just trying to be like,actually like correct on this

(34:02):
issue.
I'm not.
But yeah, you can't Rob theaverage home.
The median home price on LongIsland now, 700 grand that's
crazy.
That's, the median home priceon Long Island is $700,000.
That is insane.

(34:22):
Like, do you know?
Do you know what you get for700 grand on long island?
It's, it's like a, a smallranch, a one-story ranch.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
It's nothing yeah, I think, uh, no backyard.
I think the house we're in nowwould probably sell for 130 and
it's 2500 square feet.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, yeah, see now, yeah, I think, I think you can
beat the system If you put asignal like, if you put 30% down
, 40% down, and then you, like Isaid, you make an extra two 300
a month on top of your mortgagepayment to kill that that
principal balance down, like youcan, you have to do what you
can to avoid paying exorbitantamounts of interest.

(35:01):
But it's just, you know, for,for, like, my son, to buy a home
on long island, I I don't knowhow that's gonna happen.
My son's not gonna be able tolive on long island and own a
home.
Like it's not even attainable.
For for kids growing up hereit's not even attainable, I
don't know.
So, um, we're gonna get theo uhhoward on from uh, the two

(35:26):
cities podcast and he did anepisode recently on um, the way
of little chris and them, but amajority of that episode is
talking about the banking systemand how, like, everything is
already on a trajectory tocrumble.
It just is everything.
Everything's going to crumble.
So what we have to do is startto build during this time.

(35:47):
Yeah, find ways to build duringthis time so when the
infrastructure crumbles, we havesomething there to sustain us.
Um, yeah, dude taffy's anattorney and home ownership
anywhere near his family isimpossible.
So I mean, yeah, it just is.

(36:09):
So now what we were looking todo was kind of discuss how does
Pope Leo, as an American becausehe has to be paying attention
to what's going on here, rightLike he's an American and he's
seeing these riots pop off inAmerica and he's seeing America
now starting to go to war withIran Like how is that going to
interplay an American pope withthe American crisis that's going

(36:34):
on?
And I don't know.
I don't know, because this,this papacy, has seemed to me
thus far to be a bit boring, andI'm not saying that's not
necessarily a bad thing.
No, it's not.
It's better than what we had,but he's he's just.
It seems like he's trying toplay it so safe on everything

(36:55):
that you know we were.
We were talking about personnelissues, like, okay, so maybe
we'll start getting some answersthrough the personnel decisions
, but then I just I saw todaythat he decided to go with um to
this.
He decided to go with tucofernandez as the as the head of

(37:18):
the ddf congregation.
Yeah, the ddf, the dicasteryfor divine, uh, foricastry, as
Mark Roberts would call it, theDicastery for the Doctrine of
the Faith, the CDF is so muchbetter.
Why did Francis change all thoseDicasteries?
I don't know.
Let's play the Michael Haynestweet I put.

(37:38):
It's basically just FatherMurray, he was on with Conor
Gallagher talking aboutfernandez and I don't know this
isn't confirmed yet, it hasn'tbeen a public announcement by
the vatican, but there is a lotof rumors going around that pope
leo met with tuco fernandeztoday and confirmed him as to

(37:58):
continue at the ddf as the headof the ddf and he and he said to
him can I count on you?
And to go said yes, you cancount on me, and he chose him to
stay on at that position, whichis devastating.
Like we, I was really hopingleo was going to bring some of
bring sarah back yeah, like, andbring carnal burke in and bring

(38:20):
like.
That's what we were hoping for,but I don't.
I don't know if that's going tohappen.
You know, and it's like the theas safe as leo's playing it.
He also seems to still betrying to justify the entire
francis papacy with the thingsthat he's doing.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
So let's play the father marie clip cardinal
fernandez, who was pope cdffrancis is.
He's the cdf and he was hisclose ally.
Yeah, ghost writer.
Yeah, um, my opinion shouldn'tbe in the job.
I don't think he's qualifiedand I don't think he's done a
good job, so maybe he'll go.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
We don't know I think that's a really important one
to watch you.
I mean Congregation for theDoctrine of Faith.
Right Now.
This is what Ratzinger had, andI think that's when he got
well-known, and then CardinalMueller was in there for a while
.
He was there for five years andthen at the time Bishop
Fernandez went in and then Iguess he was made a cardinal.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
That's correct.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
All right, so this is the guy who wrote the famous
book Heal Me With your Mouth theArt of Kissing in 1995.
Yeah, what the hell is thatabout?

Speaker 1 (39:35):
This is a question that's going to be looked at by
historians.
Why did Pope Francis surroundhimself with people who are
manifestly unsuited to theposition?
They had Catholic priestswriting a book on kissing as
some kind of spiritual, mysticalway of looking at life.
No, put that in the garbage.

(39:55):
Get yourself a real interest.
That's according to what thebishop and the priest are
supposed to do.
No, cardinal Fernandez isunsuited to the job and I hope
that he loses the job because Idon't think he's done a good job
there at all.
But, on the other hand, he dida good job for Pope Francis
because Pope Francis put himthere and kept him there.

(40:15):
So this will be a sea change.
Either we get a new approach ormore of the same.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
And Cardinal Fernandez really comes up.
Was he in the conclave then hewould been yeah I'm sure um, but
uh, he, he would have um wecould cut it.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
It's just.
I think he wrote.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
It's just super you hearing thunder no I couldn't
tell if it was in the clip or ifI was hearing it outside maybe,
maybe I wasn't paying closeenough attention, but it just,
it's just.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
I'm.
I'm looking for these littlethings from Pope Leo too,
because he's doing a lot ofgestures to make us think he's
you know, he brought what, whatwas it yeah?
We hope that it was hisdecision to get the rupnik stuff
off the vatican.
And then he also returned thepractice of placing the pallium

(41:08):
on the new bishops and, likehe's trying, to be appointed a
chinese bishop before consultingchina an underground bishop too
yeah so, um, but they didapprove it.
Yes, it's just hard to get aread on him and I want to get

(41:31):
some substance from him.
Look, it's better to have aboring papacy than what we went
through, but at the same time,some things need to be done and
I'm hoping to get those from him.
I'm hoping the signals we gotin Charlotte, with Bishop Martin
backing off a little bit, are,you know, a signal for the

(41:53):
liturgy.
I mean, it's just such an easyone, right, just rescind
Traditionionis, like.
It's just such an easy one Like.
Everybody will be happy.
There's nobody that wantstradition owners, except for
like vile people, like only thelike.
If you wanted tradition owners,you're a vile person, I'm sorry
.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Like you, you, yeah, that's, you're just, you're like
, you're you're if you think inany way it was justified, go
kick, kick rocks.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, I just, I just think it was just a disgusting
move to make and I I don't.
You know, it's like if you, ifyou're happy, if you were
somebody who like reveled inthat and we're happy about that,
like, because it's not justabout liturgy, it's about these
communities that were formed anda parish is a family formed and

(42:47):
a parish is a family.
So you had these parishes thatformed, were together for years
and people driving from prettyfar distances to make those
communities work.
They were very close,tight-knit communities and then
they just get shattered becausea bishop says, yeah, we're going
to get rid of this, we're nolonger going to make the request
to Rome, and it's not justabout the liturgy, it's about
the family that was built thereand it's like for all the talk

(43:09):
of fraternity and all this stuff, it's like you are, I don't
know it, just it's one of thosethings that just like, I think
it's like sociopathic forsomebody to cheer that on.
I really do.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
It's like a sociopathy to to cheer something
like that on, because it I meanwe were just talking about,
like the, the blood lust andwanting to cheer on the shock
and awe like yeah yeah, similarto that.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, so maybe we were being a bit sociopath, but
we were also so we were alsobrainwashed like, but before
shock and awe happens, right,like we were fed all this
propaganda and we werebrainwashed.
So is that the same thingthat's happening to people who
cheered on tradition?
It's like they like it dependswhat news sources you're reading

(44:01):
, it depends the circles you runin but they're being told trads
are trying to undermine thechurch and tragedy.
So when they see tradition, theonus comes down, they're happy
because they think that'sactually like.
I don't know man.
I think our biggest issue thatwe're facing in the church is
people making caricatures of theother side and you don't see

(44:21):
them.
You just see them as acaricature of this villain
you've made in your head.
So that's how they see us andthey like I've seen how Mike
Lewis and the where Peter iscrowd speaks about trads they
think all trads are thiscaricature they've invented in
their head that just are likethey.

(44:45):
They think they're evil.
It's so.
It's so bizarre to me.
Like the people that I know atthese traditional parishes,
they're just trying to livetheir Catholic faith out.
They're just trying to raisetheir children to get to heaven.
I know all the men that gothere and they have a ton of
kids and they're just like Ijust want to get my kids to

(45:07):
heaven.
That's the main purpose of whatthey're doing at these things
and they're viewed as evil bypeople who don't share the same
ideology.
Now, look, I I do make likejokes teasing about the Novus
Ordo, but I also know there areplenty of Novus Ordo communities

(45:27):
that are very similar to whatI'm talking about.
Like they're just a very tightknit community.
They're a family and they'redoing their best to get their
children to heaven.
So this isn't a Novus Ordotraditional liturgy thing.
It's more about the parishcommunity being a family and
having that family being brokenup and torn apart.
I think you and I, because ofour experiences, we also have a

(45:48):
caricature of the Novus Ordo inour head.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
It's not a caricature .
If it's accurate.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
No but.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I mean, I'm probably more, I have more experience
with the Novus Ordo than most ofthe people who defend the Novus
Ordo.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
I have a more varied, well-rounded, probably closer
to the truth, experience thanyour.
You know your person who has aunicorn core, Novus Ordo, and
defends all Novus Ordo.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah that, but that's a different, that's right.
So we've we've spoken aboutthat before Like, if you have a
traditional Novus Ordo, likewhich is a contradiction in
terms.
Yeah, it's like to act like theyall are like that.
It is kind of a contradictionin terms.
But to act like they're alllike that and defend them all as
if that's the norm is a weirdthing to do.

(46:47):
But like my my post the otherday about mass attire, right, so
, like a Novus Ordo lit, becausethis is actually true, if the
few times I have attended theNovus Ordo, I do not wear the
same clothes I would wear to atraditional liturgy, like I will

(47:07):
wear jeans and t-shirt to aNovus Ordo, because they don't
want to stand out, my kids willnot wear their, they will not
wear the dress they wear to thetradition, like I probably would
.
Now I'm talking because it'sbeen a while since I've been to
a novus ordo, but like so now,like I probably would just to,
just to like, if I'm going tothe holy sacrifice, you act a

(47:29):
certain way, but I'm just sayinglike, the liturgy itself
actually conditions you to wearclothes that are less like, not
less modest.
Like it's just so casual.
The liturgy itself is so casual.
Yes, the liturgy it's up,you're right, it's just very
casual.
Right, like so you're going inand there are people in

(47:50):
flip-flops and there are peoplein their sweatpants, people that
just rolled out of bed and theywent right to mass in the
morning and now like if you'regoing to the priestly vestments
itself are less priest isn'twearing a maniple right, it's
not, doesn't have the beretta,you know, uh, everything is just
so ordered in almostmilitaristic right in the tlm,

(48:13):
where it is just so formal it it.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
It makes you want to be a part of that right because,
you're following your priest,you're following the lead,
whereas the the the cat, thenovus ordo is a, is a casual
dinner at olive garden.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
You know what I mean, like, but it's also, look,
there's something to socialpressure too, like.
Do you remember when JordanPeterson caught a bunch of crap
for saying, um, he said likesomething about like, um, like
something about monogamy, like,uh, social pressure for monogamy
, and people, people interpretedit as him saying like arranged

(48:52):
marriages and forced marriage.
He was talking about how, likeshaming people who are sleeping
around is what he was sayingLike social pressure to like
shame people who are sleepingaround?
So it's kind of like a forcedsocial monogamy where, like, you

(49:14):
praise the people who havemonogamous relationships and
those relationships last andmarriages, let you lift those up
, and the people who don't dothat, you kind of shame them.
And it's the same thing withthe, with the liturgy, and
address what we should do witheverything.
So, if you so, uh, when we spokewith nancy charles, nancy
charles talked about her firsttime going into a latin mass.

(49:36):
She was dressed because nancycharles was on the verge of
becoming trans, right, so shewas almost wearing like boys
clothes, like she was wearing,like you know, shorts and a
t-shirt, and she was dressedvery and like male attire and
when she went there she kind oflike felt awkward being there
right, because everybody elsethere was dressed really nice.

(49:59):
So her second time going shewas dressed more appropriately
when she went.
Now, when you go to a novasordo, if you're dressed very
nicely you kind of stand outbecause everybody else is
dressed down and casual.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, but see, I'm as as wrong as it might be to to
dress down to fit in, I go theopposite direction.
Well, yeah, I do thingsspecifically to you do the
Tolkien thing.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I understand that.
That's why I said if I went now, I would probably handle it
differently.
I'm talking, I'm trying totrying to think of how I had
always gone, you know, before,before, recent times.
Like it's just you would.
You would purposely try to fitin because you like the.

(50:51):
it's just the way it is no, I, Iunderstand yeah you know so,
but when you go to a traditionalliturgy, everyone there is
dressed up, so you'd feel likean idiot being in sweatpants or
jeans and a hoodie, like youjust kind of feel silly.
But man, all right.

(51:12):
So before we get off of here,um, there was a couple things I
wanted to touch on.
Wait, oh what.
We're gonna stay on here alittle longer.
We have a guest coming is theguest gonna be a little late.
He's about 15 minutes out, sowe're gonna stay on here.
We have a surprise guest comingon, guys.
You guys want to stick aroundfor this one, so hang on, let me

(51:36):
just see.
All right, so we got a coupleof things.
Lindsey Graham.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Lindsey Graham tweeted game on Pray for Israel.
Of course he did.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
You want to play the Brooklyn protester to?
I don't know.
I feel like we kind of playedthat topic out.
I don't even care anymore.
Bishop in Charlotte Martin, whobanned the Latin Mass, brings
in Father Casey into his diocese.
We could do that.
There's the you want to do mytweet, the the brian

(52:15):
holdsworth's steve skojekargument.
Let's do that.
Let's do that.
That's actually a really goodone.
Let's go with that.
So I tweeted out there was aguy who had a fight with a chick
.
Well, a chick stepped to a guy.
It's my tweet.
I put I wouldn't do that.
Uh, I don't think I would havehit the woman.

(52:36):
That's my tweet, okay.
So I tweeted something out andbrian holdsworth and steve
skojak are kind of like going atit a little bit over it.
So I I show I sent my tweet,but like, go up to show the
video first.
Let's show the video and we'll.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
I want to hear your opinion there's nothing I love
more than the anthony's twitterreview show well, the video
itself is a good, good subjectstarter.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I want to see if you think this guy went too far I've
.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
I've already seen it all right.
Well, you gotta play.
It's a video from like 10 yearsago.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Just play it.
It we're going to play for theaudience.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I'm trying to find it .
Is it before or after the?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Carnival Cruise tweet .
No, I sent the tweet to thething.
Just click on that and thenscroll up.
Go to your messages.
It says I don't think I wouldhave hit the woman, because
that's just me.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
You sent 30 things.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Just the one I'm telling you to do?

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I'm trying to find it .

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I send a lot of stuff because I need to have options.
I don't know where theconversation is going to go.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
You always want to use the worst possible way I'm
going to bring it up.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Do you need me to do it?
Because I can do this.
You got it.
All right, you got it Becauseyou're way better at this than
me.
Alright, you got it Becauseyou're way better at this than
me.
I don't want to start bringingvideos up.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
I wish Israel bombed you.
Sorry, I don't mean that IsraelDon't bomb them?

Speaker 2 (54:03):
They might, yeah, alright.
So let's see, there's a guy anda gal are having an argument
and she hits him and he reacts.
Keep it on because, watch her,look at her.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Look at this drama.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Pretending she got hurt worse than she did.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Oh, and I'm pretty sure she's on drugs or like
she's intoxicated somehow.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I just think she's milking it.
I don't believe her.
All right, so go down to BrianHoldsworth.
So I said, did he go too far?
Brian Holdsworth said yes,justice demands only a
proportional response.
He's much stronger than her.
Further charity demands us togo further than the dictates of
justice, uh, to love even ourenemies.

(55:02):
If it were me, I would avoidfirst, or I would avoid first or
neutralize at most brian,you're canadian.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
If it was you, you would let us invade never mind.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
No, so I actually understand his point right.
So if a woman was doing that tome, I personally might not
react the way that guy did, likeI don't think I would have
knocked a woman out I won't.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
He didn't.
He pushed her away.
That's all woman out?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
I won't.
He didn't.
He pushed her away, that's all.
He's not to blame for herflying back five feet.
I I agree with you.
I so like my my.
My point is I may not havepersonally done what he did.
I still don't think I wouldever put my hands on a woman.
I just don't think I would.
But I don't know, like if awoman's hits you in the face as
a stranger, like who are youlike?

Speaker 3 (55:55):
there's so many situations like I I don't know.
You know it depends is my.
Are my kids right there behindme?
On that case, I'm sorry thatwoman's getting more than a push
yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
So my, my, I personally don't know if I would
put my hands on a woman.
I would have to be pushed veryfar to put my hands on a woman.
I just would Like I've neverhit a woman in my entire life.
I just don't see something likethat happening.
But at the same time, I haveabsolutely no pity for this

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woman.
I don't feel bad for her.
I don't have any empathy forher and I think this man was
justified in what he did.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Like is she intoxicated?
Well then, once again, I'mprobably doing more than pushing
her because she's she's notcapable of rational or
reasonable thought.
So, yeah, in that case oh gosh,I almost said something very
bad.
Like you are obviously stilldealing with a human being, but
you're not dealing with thehuman being that is capable of
acting like a human being.
You know what I mean.

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Like you're almost dealing withthe wild animal at that point.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Oh, my gosh.
So wait, let's go through,let's go through.
So Brian Holdsworth then saysAll right.
So Steve Skojec says BS, BS toBrian's tweet.
Twitter threads and then bs tobrian's twitter threads and then
, uh, brian says well, it'sinteresting, because brian's
perspective, it's not myperspective.
That's why, if a 10 year oldhit you, would you knock them
out and feel justified in doingit?

(57:21):
I sure hope not.
That's because you're waystronger and shouldn't feel so
threatened by someone who is ina danger to you that you need to
return, shot for shot, withyour full strength okay, but but
by pushing her away, are youespecially if she's intoxicated
are you preventing her fromdoing something that is going to
force you to do even more?

(57:43):
you know, I mean you're going tomake me defend brian's position
here.
No, you know that's what you'reabout to do, okay oh, do you
want?

Speaker 3 (57:51):
do you want me to take brian's position?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
no, I'm just saying like I'm gonna have to defend
brian's position, because Ithink we all our bid is to
always yes, we can't agree sowhich position do you want?
I'll take the other one no, I'mtaking brian's position so well,
you're stupid, all right.
The question of deserve is aquestion of justice.
What is owed?
He hit her way harder than shehit him and is a, uh and in a

(58:15):
way, more vulnerable spot.
A he's stronger and b he knowswhere to hit.
The proof is in the fact thathe's still standing and she's
knocked out.
It's not proportional.
He's.
I don't think.
She's not that, brian, I can'tthink it's okay.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
But here's like define proportional.
She used probably 80 of herstrength.
He used 10 of his.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
If anything, it was a disproportional response on his
part in the opposite directionI'm trying to, yeah, dude,
because if that was a man, I'dhave knocked his teeth out, like
if it was a man, a fist wouldhave went right through his
teeth and I actually disagreewith that.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Like, if a man is pushing me, like, I'll push back
.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Like, like no well, like you said, if my family's
there, dude oh yeah, it dependson so much.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Where are we?
Who's with me?
Yeah, are they intoxicated?
Uh, you know what like is.
Are they a group of people?
I was out.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I was out at a restaurant and, uh, I was out
with.
I was out with another coupleand my wife and there was a
group of 10 guys maybe I'mexaggerating, maybe it was like
six guys that were out at thesame place and this guy kept
staring at my wife, looking atmy wife, and I'm like, whatever,
I don't care, he's looking atmy wife.

(59:39):
He then pulled on her scarf,like my wife had a scarf on and
he pulled on my wife's scarf.
I don't think I've ever snappedlike this in my life, like I
grabbed this kid and threw himinto the wall so hard and I
scared the ever-living crap outof him and then, like for good

(59:59):
measure, we went and sat down atthe table and I was just so
heated about it, like I wantedto hit this kid so bad, and I
saw him and all his friendsoutside smoking a cigarette,
like six of them, and I wentoutside to smoke a cigarette
just to look at the kid, like Iwanted him to start a fight with
me, so like if it's a man.
It's a very different situationfor me, but I think my tolerance

(01:00:20):
level for a woman pestering mewould be infinitely higher, like
if a woman even gets on my faceand starts hitting me like I I
don't think I would hit like.
I would just be like get awayfrom me.
You would just be like get awayfrom me, you annoying thing,
just get away from me.
I might raise my voice and Imight just be like I'm going to

(01:00:42):
clench my teeth.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
It would take a lot for me to hit.
I think pushing him away,pushing her away, swiping her
feet off from under, likegetting to a point where she has
to stop right, well, no, uh,have you ever done it to a woman
?
It's so easy.
They're like so naturally off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, they're just so uncoordinated they really are
you're a tiny, you're used tothe spicy women.
I don't know it's, it's so Idon't think brian holds where
it's ever been in a fight.
Uh, rob's doing a triangle joke.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Go to sleep.
Okay, guys, this is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
This is an hour old at this point axios is reporting
israel just launched anairstrike against Syria.
May God have mercy on our souls.
Yeah, I think this is going toescalate.
I don't think this is going tobe like Iraq.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
What do you mean?
We were in Iraq for 10 years.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I think this spreads wider.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
That's what I mean.
I'm not saying this is notgoing to be a 20-year war.
I think this spreads wider andI think it spreads rapidly.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Okay, but where does it spread to?
Because, like Iran, doesn'thave a ton of allies in the
Middle East, like they hateSaudi Arabia, syria is out of
the game at this point, you know.
So I mean you have Hezbollah inLebanon and stuff, but like it

(01:02:18):
depends, depends, like whatRussia does, I don't know.
It'll be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I think we'll be at war with Russia soon.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
It's looking more and more likely.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I just think we'll be at war with Russia soon.
I think that I think we'll beat war with Russia soon.
I think that I think we'll beat war with Russia and China,
like I think it's going to beChina, china.
I think it's going to be aworld war and you're going to
see Okay, but why?

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Like why?
What causes this to escalateinto?

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
that I just think evil spirits are upon the earth
at this point, like I really dothink christendom is done and I
think the, the, the demons, havebeen released from the abyss,
and I think there's justviolence on its way and I don't
know.
Now I thought our guest voiceof reason was coming on voice of

(01:03:19):
reason voice of reason issupposed to where's voice of
reason.
Hold on, where's where's voiceof reason.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Paul's Ant Wenday is basically wait.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
what happened when he said Ant Wenday is?
No, I do think I man.
I think Francis is the star whofell from heaven and opened the
key to the abyss in theapocalypse.

(01:03:59):
That is what I think.
I think Francis was the highchurchman, because a star from
heaven is symbolic of a highchurchman, like a very high
bishop who fell from heaven andopened the key to the bottomless
pit.
Like, if you read Apocalypse 9,it talks about that, and what

(01:04:22):
bishop has the keys to thebottomless pit?
And I think that was Francis,and I think his papacy released
demons upon the earth and Ithink what we're dealing with
now is demonic influence uponthe nations, like throughout all
of the world.
I think that there is demonicinfluence throughout the world I

(01:04:43):
, like this is homemaker, has apoint here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
You just had a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
You just did a show with Majorian talking about
dating, yeah, but look, I maythink that, but I don't know
that you also think it, but youalso don't prepare for it.
No, I am preparing for it,though.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Yeah, you're getting your boat fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah, dude, I have to .
I need my boat to escape Newyork.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
do you mean um?

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
how many do you, how many ghost guns you could have
bought off franz for 20k?

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I have my bug out plan.
I downloaded my freaking maps.
I know how to get to your damnhouse.
All right, I'm coming to you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:36):
Wait your mom's here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Yeah, good you can, my mom's got extra room for you
guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Oh, laura, I cannot wait to meet you at the uh
baptism.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
I'm so excited, I can wait.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I cannot wait to meet your mom, rob.
Do you think this will furtherour lady of fatima?
Yes, I think that.
Um, I think that maliki martinspoke about salvation coming
from the east and russia playinga very big part in the
fulfillment of fatima.
Um, we are going to interviewan author who wrote a book on

(01:06:13):
maliki martin, so that will bean interesting topic to get into
with him.
Um, oh, sorry god, if iranwants to retaliate, they'll need
to use other countries airspace.
Those countries are the firstplace it will spread the region
will pick sides quickly if itstarts spiraling.
Oh, voice of reasons here.
All right guys.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
So are you?
Are you gonna apologize to himfor what you said about?

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
no, no, we'll get into this, alex oh, oh wait.

Speaker 7 (01:06:40):
Did somebody say something about me, or, alex?
I mean I like jokes, I makejokes all the time, but I mean
jokes are one thing, but uh, Imean if you're talking crap,
then I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
So here's the thing I do.
I might owe you an apology,like so you went on with George
Janko recently and yeah it's myboy.
Yeah, I came down pretty hard,like you did that episode and I
came out pretty hard.
You did that episode and I cameout pretty hard.
I was like.
I was like you know, because Idon't understand why you, you

(01:07:17):
seem to like the Protestantsbetter than than some Catholics
and I don't get it.
What's going on with that?

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
Well, I mean, it's not that I like them better, but
I mean until Catholics arehaving bigger platforms.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
That I could you know go Until Catholics started
having bigger platforms that Icould go in the park at.

Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
Right now, george Jenko.
I mean nothing, but nothing.
But George Jenko, he's reallykilling it in the views and you
can't hear the voice if youdon't have the views.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
At least he's not a schismatic heretic like the SSBX
right.

Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
That's right?
No, absolutely, Because theSSBX they're schismatic heretics
.
And because they are, then thatmeans that that's what they are
.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
So I do have a question, Alex who is your
favorite non-Catholic supposedsaint?
Is it Photius or is it Palamas?

Speaker 7 (01:08:12):
Well, photius did a lot of good things, is it?
Is it Photius, or is it aPalamas?
Well, photius did a lot of goodthings.
I'm sorry, blessed Photius, alot of great things, and but I
mean, you know, if they werehere today and they and either
one of them had a big like atoken, like a big podcast, I

(01:08:33):
probably have to, well, reallylook at the analytics.
But I noticed you.
I noticed you called me voiceof reason.
Listen, we're on a.
You're my boy, both of you,guys, my boys.
You could just call me voice.
We're on a first name basis, soyou couldn't even call me V.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
V, you couldn't even call me v v um I the thing is I,
honestly, now that you and Ihave, uh, mended our divide,
because I, like it was reallyupsetting to me because I, you
know, I was pretty harsh on youin that video and you know that
it wasn't right.
So I do owe you an apology andI'm sorry that I came down and
you know I had ruslan in that,in that chat, and you know he he

(01:09:15):
gave me a fraternal correctionand I, right away I I felt bad.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
So absolutely, ruslan's my boy um shout out to
ruslan yes, and he got he has ahuge channel.
Dude, I don't even know whatI'm doing on here.
I mean mean, your views arepretty good, but I got to say
it's not.
Like you know, I have a podcastnext week.

(01:09:39):
I'm doing Sam Harris's podcast.
And then who's that otheratheist guy?
And they're my boys.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
So here's what I'm getting at, because you got your
beginnings with Michael Lofton.
You guys did a lot of rapvideos together.
You guys are from the hood.
Do you think you could mend thefence between Michael and I?
Because I think it's time thatwe bury the hatchet and maybe
move on from this whole drama,because me and Michael we have a

(01:10:11):
lot of tension between us, butyou seem to be in tight with him
.
You think maybe you could mendthe fence, because me and
Michael we have a lot of tensionbetween us, but you seem to be
in tight with him.
You think maybe you could mendthe fence between me and Michael
.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
Well, I don't want to make promises, but I will say
you know, the spirit offorgiveness is something that we
all as Christians, especiallynon-denominational those are my
boys, that and you know.
And the songs are really good,that and you know.
And the song is really good andyou know I like songs and if
songs are good makes me want toput my both my hands up and sway

(01:10:38):
and but that's besides thepoint, like we're about
forgiveness, and so I reallythink that the path to
forgiveness, because you're bothchristian, is probably very,
but, that being said, becauseit's you probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I don't think Michael will ever forgive me.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
So before we head over to locals, does anybody in
the chat have any questions forAlex?

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
We have a couple things here.
So, first off, one of yourOrthodox co-religionist voice of
reason says here that MichaelLofton is his favorite rapper.
Do you prefer Michael Lofton orFather David Michael Moses?

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
You know what I gotta say Christian Mario?
I know he was just messingaround and doing a parody, but I
think Christian Mario didLofton better than Lofton.
And the fact that he's not.
Catholic actually makes me likehim a lot better.
Speaking of not Catholic andspeaking of Orthodox, my
Orthodox brothers shout out.

(01:11:40):
I just wanted.
I saw a comment here about theUbi Petrus debate, and because I
saw a comment about the UbiPetrus debate, then I want to
say something about it.
And because I want to saysomething about it, the thing
I'm going to say is that,technically, I mean, a lot of
people say it's subjective, likewhether you move the audience

(01:12:01):
to your position or not, and thegoal really isn't to move the
other person, and I understandthat.
But because I understand that,I would say that he drank more
sips of water than I did, andwhen he did hisbuttal his mouth
was dry and made that clickysound about seven times, and so
mine made it probably two to beconservative, and so I think

(01:12:23):
that's a clear win.
It's a clear W.
Shout out to my boy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Yeah, I actually.
I thought the I'll tell youthis.
Okay, so you, I think when youdebated James White, that was my
favorite debate you ever did.

Speaker 7 (01:12:41):
Shout out to James.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
White.
Yeah, james, me too.
I'm going to shout out JamesWhite.
James White put us on the map.
He did an entire sermon on oneof my tweets one time, so, but
you did a debate with him.
That was actually really,really good, and it taught me
some, some ways to discusspurgatory that I had never
thought of, so I was verygrateful for that, but I think

(01:13:03):
you bombed in the Ubi Petrusdebate.
I gotta be honest.

Speaker 7 (01:13:06):
Yeah, that's what a lot of people say.
But yet again, if you look atthe amount of water bottles that
will be crushed, I mean that'sa W right there.
That means you're nervous, thatmeans you're sweating, that
means you're losing and thatmeans I won.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
But he ended more hydrated.
Isn't that a win?

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
No, I think Alex is right If you drank more water,
you were more nervous.
And Alex is right.

Speaker 7 (01:13:29):
He delayed the meet and greet afterwards because he
had to go to the bathroom.
You were more nervous, andAlex's.
He delayed the meet and greetafterwards because he had to go
to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Would you have drank more requisite wine than he
would have?

Speaker 7 (01:13:38):
Requisite wine.
If they had a good promo code,then yeah.
Like based, for instance yeah,if it was promo code based for I
don't know what would that giveme?

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
10% off.

Speaker 7 (01:13:54):
Then I would buy it.
I would just want to pronouncea little differently.
Sorry, reku isn't.
Reku isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
The big question everybody wants to know war on
beauty or religious hippie?

Speaker 7 (01:14:08):
Oh, that's tough.
And because that's tough, thenI'm thinking's tough, then I'm
thinking.
And because I'm thinking, thatmeans what that means is I
forgot both names that you gaveme the option for, so the one
with the beauty is the one Iremember the most, so I'll say

(01:14:28):
beauty yeah, war on beauty.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
We're all team war on beauty over here.
So, alright, listen guys, wegot one more.
So I would say beauty, yeah,war on beauty, we're all team
war on beauty over here, so allright listen, guys, we got one
more.
Someone paid 10 bucks.
If you guys don't put a superchat in, we're ending this.
So if you want to get aquestion in, it's got to be a
super chat.
Do you think we are headinginto World War III?

Speaker 7 (01:14:44):
Well, because it's possibly a war, and because it's
a war and three, that's anumber right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
And it's in the world .

Speaker 7 (01:14:58):
It is of the world and because of this world, that
is essentially a secular issue.
It's a temporal issue.
And because it's a temporalissue then you know, just like
my debate with Uwe Petrus, youcould base it on temporal things
like drinking water versus thespiritual nature of who won and

(01:15:19):
information.
So because of that I would say,yeah, it is.
And also I saw another commenthere about Catholic Palooza.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Oh, that's right, so all right.

Speaker 7 (01:15:34):
so I have before we go to locals, because you know I
want the biggest platform.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely so.
Um, last year I had, I had thisopportunity to go to uh, this
festival in new jersey, uh,catholic in New Jersey, catholic
Palooza.
I was fortunate enough I hadEnoch stay at my house and he
came and him and I both drove toNew Jersey and we got to go.

(01:15:59):
It was an amazing festivalEnoch performed.
I think he's performing againthis year.
There's a great band playingthere.
What's the name of that band?

Speaker 7 (01:16:07):
Alex, I think the band that you mentioned that
will be at Catholic Palooza thatis going to play music.
I think they will be calledHallowed H-A-L-L-O-W-E-D, and
because it's H-A-L-L-O-W-E-D,that means that's a word right,
and so we can Google that wordand you can go to

(01:16:29):
hallowedbeatscom orhallowedmusiccom.
They just came out with a newalbum, man shout out to hallowed
um, and they also are puttingtogether and are going to be
performing and I think enoch istoo and his boy, uh, the music
so let me ask you something Doyou have any beef with the guy

(01:16:50):
Alex from hallowed because hestole your band name for his app
?
Oh, um.
No, there's no beef there.
I mean he's is he?
Does he go to Nova Sordo ordoes he?
Is he a schismatic that goes toa TLM.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
I think he goes to the.
I think he goes to the TLM.
He might be a schismatic hegoes to the tl.

Speaker 7 (01:17:13):
He might be a schismatic.
I think you're right, man,that's crazy.
He should do a very, you know,like a normal regular right,
like uh, jimmy aiken with the.
I think he has a star trekianright of where you could believe
in aliens when?

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
when is catholic palooza?

Speaker 7 (01:17:29):
Oh man, when isn't it ?
I think it's August.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
He thinks this is called Unprepared to Plug your
Gig.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Oh no.

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
Coming from you really Anthony.
Well, I got to say I mean,listen, you're my Catholic
brothers.
But I will say that George,janko and Rosalon, they would
not have this problem becausetheir producers reach out to you
and when they reach out to youthey ask you for information,
and information like CatholicPalooza is going to be in

(01:18:01):
Rutherford, new Jersey.
I forgot to be clicking mymouth as much, but I'm going to
start doing it.
So it's August 16th and it'shollow musiccom and that's what
it's going to be.
It's going to be real cool.
There's going to be a lot of uhwait a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Did you take a shot at me there?

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Yeah, the producer didn't call him and get the
information to plug itbeforehand, so all right.
So Catholic Palooza is August16th in rutherford, new jersey,
if anybody's in the area.
I went last year.
I had a really good time.
It's gonna be a lot of catholiccontent creators there, a lot
of catholic uh music uh creatorsthere.
I last year last year I went Igot to meet uh ryan katsu rivera

(01:18:47):
.
He used to be gavin mckinnis'sproducer and now he works for
sam hyde so that was really funon our show too, yeah he used to
be cool.
He used to come on our show.
Now we get alex voice now, yeah, so, um, if you guys are, you
can call me boys, you can callme boys sorry sorry, uh, I heard
voice of reason might make anappearance there.

(01:19:07):
So if you guys want to meet alexAlex, voice of reason, he might
be performing a rap song whilehe's there.
Yeah, wait, says the guy whoforgets to do his only sponsors.
So, rutherford, new Jersey,august 16th, if Rob isn't have,

(01:19:28):
if hope doesn't have the baby onher due date, there's a
possibility I might go as well.
It is a fun time, it's likeit's, it's, it's this.
So there's like four differentstages.
There's always a music actgoing on and then the rest of
the time everybody's just kindof hanging out.
You get to meet other catholicsand stuff.
So if you guys are in thetri-state area of new york, new

(01:19:48):
jersey, uh, connecticut, uh,it's not a, it's a quick ride
out of New York City, if youguys can Grab tickets August
16th, we are going to head overto Locals and we will help
promote that as the weeks go on.
Alex, thank you so much forcoming on.

Speaker 7 (01:20:04):
I appreciate it.
Catholicbaloozacom, by the way.
What's up?
Oh yeah, you can bring yourkids too.
It's very kid-friendly.
There's different rooms fordifferent performances.
There's I like the last masskids are welcome yeah, kids are
well, I mean you do have to keepthem quiet, though.
I mean that that is true.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
The last time the last yeah, the last time we went
I I met Ryan Katzu Rivera'swife.
Well, I met them before that,but I hung out with Ryan's
daughter and I gave her a littlething while I was there and
then when I saw her at mass thenext time she was still carrying
that little thing.
Yeah, bracelet Bracelet wascool.

(01:20:46):
Yeah, I gave her a littlebracelet and I miss his kids.
So we'll have to talk on the.
We'll talk on Locals, alex,alex, thank you so much for
coming on here, man.
I'm glad you and I were able tomend our beef.
This is always good to haveCatholics.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Yeah there definitely will not be more beef after
this, that's for sure?

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
No, definitely not.
I bet Alex and I are going tobe A-OK after this one 100% cool
and super-duper better thanbefore.
Super-duper way better.
Love it.
All right, guys, we're going togo over to Logan's.
If you want to hear the rest ofthe Voice of Reason interview,
we're going to do it over on theother side.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
So, rob, rob, take us out, bro.
Okay, give me.
I I'm preparing something forover there.
Give me a minute, give me asecond wait do the, do the taffy
intro I would, I was given, yes, I was given, yes, yes, we have
a show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Stay on, alex.
We have an intro for the nextone that we're going into.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Great, great, yeah, okay give me a minute here rob's
got it.

Speaker 7 (01:21:53):
He's a little slow, but he's got it.
By the way, anthony, if thiswas a debate you would have lost
, because you said usually has ablue light and because you
forego your blue light, the ledsno, it's too late.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
You lost man and I took a lot of sips of my drink
during this conversation.
I will say that okay, that'strue.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Okay, we're switching over now.
Give me a minute here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
You should play for the YouTube side, Rob uh, the
outro for youtube as we leave Idon't know if taffy said
probably keep that one on localsokay, all right, locals only if
you guys are on youtube, you'regonna miss out on this amazing
little uh would not be happeningon the on the impulsive podcast
, by the way I'm gonna slap yougeorge jenker would never do

(01:22:41):
this by the way

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
uh, avoiding babylonlocalscom if you're not
already subscribed rouselonnetokay, okay, uh b, here is an

(01:23:10):
intro just for you.

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
Well, actually yeah, here we go.
You had to get rid of onereligion, and it was Islam or
Catholicism.
Which one would you get rid of?
Great question, duh what.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
What did you say?
Catholicism, what?
Yeah, of course.
What do you think?
Who do you think you're talkingto?

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
You're on the debate stage.
You guys have to understandsomething We've noticed.
Who do you think you're talkingto?
You're on the debate stage, youguys have to understand
something We've noticed.

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
I came to Judaism from the enemy of my enemy is my
friend.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
So when my friends prefer Islam to Catholicism,
dude so here he goes, All rightwhatever.

Speaker 7 (01:24:17):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Ryan, I don't know, do they do that in the eastern
right?
You have to get in greek aswell oh yeah oops, free gas.
All you can see, brian brother,how are you man Doing pretty
good, why are you sideways?

Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
Oh, there you go.
Okay, I'm back.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
I'm voice.
It's my name, so we got to dosome updates for people that
don't know You're not with Gavinanymore, right.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
That's true.
Yeah, I left.
See that footage that youplayed there.
I left because, if he leaves,israel, my, which were their
number one ally I said no, no,no, no.
You keep your support forIsrael, no matter what they say
about the church you still havea good relationship with Gavin,
though, right?
yeah, he just.
He texted me the other day tofind this picture of one of the

(01:25:07):
uber drivers.
I snapped a screenshot of it.
It was a black guy named maryand he had a wig on and he
tweeted.
He needed that for a tweet.
So I'm still working for himand that capacity of sending him
oh, um.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
I know, if something were to happen like with the
podcast, I know Ant would neverleave me alone.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
No, so all right, so you're over with Sam Hyde now,
right, that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
The Sam Hyde Show.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Sam Hyde Show.
Yeah, how is it over there,what's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:25:41):
It's great.
I mean so the fact that we'reon, thankfully, like a Catholic
show.
This won't be like out of theblue to just start mentioning
prayers and God answering theprayers and making impossible
things possible, because that'slike if it was just a comedy
podcast or talking to some of mysecular friends, even if you

(01:26:04):
have to like wedge things likethat in there and kind of like.
They're like, okay, it's like aweird thing, but we were up
against, like you know, decidingit was finally time that we had
to move.
In our timeline of when to moveand gavin's timeline of when he
wanted to move, we're like just, they kept going apart.
Every day that went by that wegot closer to having our third

(01:26:26):
kid in this two-room apartment.

Speaker 7 (01:26:31):
And then if we got a third apartment, a three-room
apartment, it would be moreexpensive, we couldn't afford it
and we would have to go to aworse neighborhood, and the
neighborhood we were already inwas already not that great.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Yeah, pretty soon you'd end up in a neighborhood
with the TLM.
You'd be in the TLM ghetto.
It'd be terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:26:45):
Yeah, pretty soon you'd end up in a neighborhood
with the TLM, you'd be in theTLM ghetto.
It'd be terrible.
But no, but there was that.
And then also likehomeschooling they're coming for
homeschoolers, for vaccineschedules, all that stuff, and
there was just a lot that it was, and then also a couple other
things there, but essentiallyall these things worked out
where we had to get our taxesback to get a mortgage the
mortgage was that going to gothrough?

(01:27:06):
Was our offer going to getaccepted?
Um, our baby being born, movingthe stuff and then also being
able to get somebody to buy theapartment.
And when we're packing, duringthis whole thing, I'm training
sean, my replacement for the,for the thing to uh, so that
they're not just like left withnobody, uh working also remotely

(01:27:29):
, like starting work remotely,uh for sam, um, and then, yeah,
our baby being born too was likeit's weird how much that it's
sad, how much that like driftsout of your main focus for a
little bit.
But yeah, and then when, whenthat was happening, as she was
in labor, it kind of like allclicked in, like wow, this is
the main thing, this is the bigthing, this is like a lot of the

(01:27:50):
stuff is just kind of temporal,uh, you know and um, and so it
was.
It was kind of sad thatsomething like that got even
vaguely sidelined, but there wasa lot going on and I just
prayed and my wife wasn'tstressed, she was the most
pregnant she ever was duringthat and yeah, it's just like
God took care of us in such areal way and even down to the

(01:28:13):
fact that my wife noticed thisthe other day.
But I had a fish.
I've had a fish for years sinceI lost my best friend Larry.
I just like I don't know why,but like I was like I'm going to
start taking care of fish and Ithink maybe it's.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
I was going to make a joke, but that would have been
so insensitive with what youjust said.

Speaker 7 (01:28:33):
If it was worth it, then you could say it, but if
you just thought it was worth it, then I would not do it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
I hope he doesn't hate me for this Wait no, that's
why I didn't want you to switchto your face over there.
Yeah, I didn't want to blow thebit on YouTube because he will
never know it was you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
You could just plausible deniability at that
point other than the show beforeyou saying how Ryan Catu Rivera
was coming out.
That was on Locals.

Speaker 6 (01:29:08):
I didn't say it on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Those are just hints.
I said it on Locals.
I never blew the spot onYouTube.
That's a totally differentaudience.

Speaker 6 (01:29:16):
But basically my fish died right before it moved,
just like on his own, likepassed away, because we were
thinking like, wow, that's goingto be very tough to transport a
tank If he didn't die on hisown.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
that means you murdered him.

Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
Maybe my wife put a little bleach inside the water.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Wait, I got a funny story.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
Speaking of stories, Are you really interrupting his
story right now with your story?

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
I don't know how to do an interview.
When I was like 16, there wasthis girl, brianne, that I went
to school with, and we went toher house one night and it was
like me and all my friends andwe poured gold schlager in her
fish tank oh, my goodness,killed all her.

Speaker 6 (01:29:59):
Of course it did.
Oh my me, that is a bad personthing to do I was not a good kid
that could.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Could have been $150 worth of fish Ant.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Dude, we killed the whole fish tank with Goldschlag.
We killed them all All right,never mind We'll get back to it.

Speaker 6 (01:30:17):
So wait, okay, so you moved to Rhode Island, which is
far from me, into the one housethat met our our criteria, that
was big enough, affordableenough in the neighborhood, that
was the safe as it couldpossibly be, blessed with an
amazing neighbor who's helpingus, like he knows literally
everything from pouring concreteto plumbing, and and then you,

(01:30:41):
just we have an immediate youknow, just like, like we visited
to the area before we moved.
And then the parish is amazing.
It's an fssp, it it's um, it'snot our old parish.
We, we miss it a lot, we misseverybody there, but it is, it
is amazing and um.
Another thing too is like allthe people that I work with are
great.

(01:31:01):
It's like sam has handpicked it, handpickedicked it.

Speaker 7 (01:31:04):
Handpicked it.
No, he handpicked it.
Let me turn on my camera.
He handpicked it and because hedid.

Speaker 6 (01:31:12):
No, he handpicked like some of the greatest guys
to work with.
One of them is coming to churchwith me every Sunday.
Most Sundays he misses very few, and I mean man, it's just like
great all around the works from.
The days go by quick and youknow the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
So you told me, uh, so you called me two days ago,
uh, and I thought I was on thephone with jay dyer.
So you do a pretty good, jaydyer too.

Speaker 6 (01:31:41):
Let me see if I can.
I can transfer.
I'm actually going on jay dyerstream, maybe next week or
something, because he he writesfor the show and so he's
involved in the show and theseare co-workers.

Speaker 7 (01:31:53):
And uh, he was like hey, um yeah, I don't think I
could do it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
I was so voice.
You gotta listen to jay dyer alittle bit before.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
I don't want to do I don't want to debut it as a bad
one, so I might so yeah, so jaywrites for sam hyde as well,
right?

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
yep, so um it's.
It's funny how, like, theinterconnections between all of
us keep happening.
It's like so tim gordon goes onwith jay dyer tomorrow on tim
pool.
Wow, what are they doing, jayDyer?

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
Tim Warden and Laura Lodge, the Protestant that hates
Anthony.
Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Who is that?
But Laura Lodge knows me,doesn't like me, but I'm friends
with Jay, I'm friends with Timand Laura Lodge doesn't like me
and they're all going on Timcastto debate.
I just got a text fromkatherine, from uh.
Catholic, unscripted.
Today she went out to lunchwith father maudsley and they,

(01:32:54):
they, uh, father.
She said I just want you toknow I went to lunch with father
maudsley today.
He speaks very highly of you.

Speaker 6 (01:32:59):
It's just, it's just interesting and the clip you
just played with with, uh,fuentes and and maudsley's been
saying great things aboutfuentes, about it's fun like all
these interconnections, likewe're in the same freaking world
.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
It's really interesting to to, to like watch
how all this stuff is kind ofcoming together and I like I
know most catholics aren't crazyabout jay dyer, but I like jay,
like, I think jay is justorthodox, like he's just um,
he's just a maniac orthodox.

Speaker 6 (01:33:32):
It's part of their position.
Yeah, that all of the what youwould call an uncharitability
towards our you know where we're, the way that we're seeing from
their, that's part of theirwhole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Like we, we're like, no, you're, you're actually,
you're, um, you know, like leftlung, right lower, like the left
and right, I actually I want tofind a I want to find a topic
that I can debate jay on, sothat people can see what a
debate between somebody like meand somebody like him would look

(01:34:05):
like, because, like so manypeople, like Jay's uncharitable,
but I'll be just asuncharitable as him, so it would
be an interesting debate.
I'm going to find a topic thathim and I can debate on because
I like him, like I think it'sfunny what he like when he kind
of goes off on people like Idon't know.
It's like I expect him to holdthe Orthodox position.

(01:34:28):
He's Orthodox, so I don't getoffended when he's saying things
against Catholicism becausehe's Orthodox, so it's like
obviously he's going to takethat position, right.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
But if you don't fall into over five fallacies during
a J Dyer debate, then youpretty much win.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
He's got to get you with more than five for it to be
.
Yeah, you got clobbered, bro.
What I think is going to happenwith the uh debate on timcast
is tim and jay will end upteaming up against laura lodge.
They will because laura lodgeis going to come with a bunch of
stupid protestantism and he'snot like he's.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
I know he's not he's like a high anglican, so yeah,
he's not like so much chad, Iknow that that's even worse,
because if you knowledge certainthings but put a limit on that,
it's it.

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
I think.
I think that's a worse positionthan straight up evangelical,
because they can just float intothe well sola scriptura, and
they could just do thisnever-ending.
Uh, I don't appeal to thatauthority thing forever, but
anglicanism actually, because ithas liturgy and it has like um
authority.
It's like well, whose authority?
Why do you appeal to thehistoricity of it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
so they're going to destroy him because he's a mason
.
That's what they're going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Paul says paul said laurel lodge will try and split
them up if he's even slightlysmart.
But what I think will end uphappening is Tim and Jay will
end up working together to showProtestantism is ridiculous, but
then Tim and Jay will debate onsuch minutia about like
councils and like insanity thatit's going to go over.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Lorelai by training is a medieval historian.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:07):
So, him and.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Jay could go after Tim on some of the medieval
councils and stuff like thatInteresting.
Rob's a Lore Lodge fanboy, soit's like I do enjoy the channel
, but I wouldn't mind Tim andJay just destroying him for
being amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:36:27):
So you know, actually the teaming up of the Orthodox
and Catholic happened thisweekend in Austin.
We were doing the premieres forExtreme Peace, which is the
spiritual successor of a showthat was on Adult Swim called
World Peace, but it got kickedoff for being anti-Semitic and
racist or suspected to be.

(01:36:49):
It was really like bureaucracyand the politics of
entertainment out there thatsort of pushed them out.
But it's an independent releaseand we went there to Austin and
afterwards, at one of the afterparties, it was me, this
Orthodox guy, and I just cutmyself off at like four drinks
throughout the entire night andI had just like an empty glass

(01:37:10):
outside and we're just like forlike two hours, uh convincing
this one guy and this other guythat came about and maybe the
total of three that they need tobe a part of an apostolic
church.
And I wasn't even because therewas an orthodox guy there.
I wasn't even trying to like uhexplain the position or try to
push the position there to, sohe wouldn't be, he wouldn't feel
like gosh, because a lot ofthese orthodox guys are really

(01:37:31):
cool and they don't do a greatjob of holding to the orthodox
position, which is that we'recompletely like schismatic
heretics and we're invalidbecause they don't themselves
have no information to likevalidate their position.
It's the same reason I won'tdebate.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
I won't debate orthodoxy because I've never
studied the arguments againstorthodoxy, so I I have a very
different position to theorthodox than I do to the
protest.
Like I understand theprotestant arguments that
they're just ridiculous, and Ican argue against the protestant
any day, at any time.
Orthodoxy is just like verycomplex and the reasons why they
split and I just don't know thearguments right.

(01:38:10):
So I just I just see the.
The discussion with them isvery different than the
discussion with protestants.
You know, like my, my positionis that the church is the
kingdom of heaven on earth.
And when christ says, repent,for the kingdom of heaven is at
hand, like the catholic church,is the gospel like, like the,
the kingdom of heaven on earth.
And when christ says, repent,for the kingdom of heaven is at
hand, like the catholic church,is the gospel like, like the,

(01:38:30):
the kingdom of heaven come toearth.
That is the catholic church.
The catholic church goes aboutthe world, converting all the
nations, like the, the.
The fact that the westernchurch, the latin church, is the
church that converts thenations, to me is the biggest
proof of catholicism right,taffy got her video blocked.
What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
who did taffy got the youtube portion blocked totally
.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
Uh, I'm looking right now it's because of the celine
dion song my heart will go on.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
Monetize it uh it, you know it's automatically
demonetized.

Speaker 6 (01:39:08):
It's just saying you could remove that.
You could.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
You can move that part and it'll resolve it's
saying it's blocked in someterritories and depending on the
territories.
I probably don't care, but itwon't tell me the territories.
Denmark, oh, russia, yeah, Idon't know oh, okay who cares
about that?

Speaker 6 (01:39:24):
it's because it's a catholic podcast?
Um, it's.
It's also been in Greece andSyria, I don't know.
But yeah, basically I'm just alaity, I'm dumb, but I do
believe that the church protectsyou from.
You don't have to be atheologian, you don't have to be
academic in order to be saved,and so I feel safe in that

(01:39:45):
position and really it justcomes down to me.
What is the church that wasthere for me, that baptized all
the family members that I knewand that is there whenever I'm
looking for, whenever I'mtraveling?
What is the church that compelsme?
And I was drawn to it.
But the first question that Iasked as a Protestant,
anti-catholic, with an openheart, and that when that
question was answered in a waythat I was like that makes sense

(01:40:08):
, and I think I was lied to and,without looking into anything,
for some reason I had thisreally strong anti-Catholic
position.
And then you realized you werelike essentially blue pilled and
and from the start, like withall the propaganda, you're like,
well, who's doing thepropaganda?
And that's a different questionfor a different podcast.
Father Maudsley in thepropaganda, and that's a
different question for adifferent podcast father

(01:40:28):
maudsley.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
That's a good father maudsley episode.
When, when did you, when didyou start to think about the
jewish question?

Speaker 6 (01:40:36):
um, I would.
You know what?
I think it was 2000, maybeduring covet or something it
just it just happened about.
There was a lot of people beinglike do you know who's behind
this push of things?
Whether it's trans stuff, orwhether it's, uh, medical stuff,
whether it's, um, you know,political, like the people in

(01:41:01):
the different political part.
It seemed to just that therewas a trend.
And then, you know, I reallyhad no, I think if you don't
have the Catholic angle, thenmaybe you will fall in danger of
being hateful and anti-Semitic,like truly anti-Semitic.
I think being Catholic protectsyou from that, because it is

(01:41:22):
purely on a spiritual level thatwe're at odds.
We don't hold the same values.
It's purely on a spirituallevel that we're at odds.
We don't hold the same values.
Some say, like you know, dennisPrager famously said that it
was okay for adult entertainmentto exist and it was fine.
And abusing yourself is fine aslong as it doesn't hurt anybody

(01:41:42):
.
That's sort of like.
That's like a good breaking offpoint.
And that's a good breaking offpoint.
Then, furthermore, he was likewell, if it protects children,
there should be simulatedartificial child abuse material
that sick people can—.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
It's psychotic.

Speaker 6 (01:42:00):
And you see how quickly that could just spin
into.
You're in hell.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
No, what you actually what you learned from the
prager conversation was whatjesus was actually getting on
the pharisees is about thespirit of the law, versus like
that.
That's actually like.
What you learned in thatconversation with matt frad and
prager was that what jesus wascoming down on the Pharisees

(01:42:24):
about was not hypocrisy.
It was them claiming they wererighteous because they followed
the law.
But the way they followed thelaw was very similar to those
stupid ads you see for theShabbat light, where it's like
you're not allowed to touch alight switch on the Sabbath

(01:42:45):
because that's considered work,but we made this light that has
a cover on it and you, you couldjust spin the cover and it
covers the light, right.
And it's like oh, you guystricked god, right, like they
think they tricked god, so godgives the law and they found
ways to get around the law.
Yeah, and that's what jesus isgetting on the pharisees about.

(01:43:07):
It's like, okay, so I gave thelaw.
And it's like honor your fatherand mother, so they come up
with this rule.
Where it's like okay, well, I'msupposed to take care of my
parents in their old age, but ifI donate the money to the
temple, then I can collectinterest on the money and I
don't have to take care of myparents and I can say well, I'm
giving the money to the temple,but they're still.

(01:43:27):
It's like banking and likethat's the origins of banking
were created the, the, theJoshua Charles podcast, where he
is talking to man I forgot hisname, but they were.
They were talking about the,the, the coin, the coin at the

(01:43:47):
temple.
Yeah, and how?
Uh, the like the, I'll butcherit.
I'm not.
I have to actually go into itso I can explain it properly oh
yeah, I forget exactly why.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Why they minted.
Oh yeah, so rome wouldn't allowthem to mint their own money,
own coin.
So Rome said they could mint.
I forget the coin of what state, and it was a coin with the
image of Baal on it and that'sthe coin they had to use in the

(01:44:20):
temple.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
So in the Jewish temple, to get the lamb you had
to use this very speciallyminted coin, because if you use
the Roman coin, you wereparticipating in idolatry,
because the Roman coin hadCaesar's image on it, but it
allowed them to mint a coin thathad an image of Baal on it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
So what they were doing was that's from the book
Romanitas by Alan Fimster.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
It's an amazing interview.
It's an amazing book.
What they were doing is tellingthe Jews if you use the Roman
coin, you will be participatingin idolatry.
They then mint the coin thathas an idol on it on it.

(01:45:10):
But what they're doingimplicitly by doing this is
rejecting the idea that the,that the covenant, can go out to
the gentiles.
Like, like god says, my spiritwill cover the earth.
The gentiles have seen a greatlight and the and the nations of
the earth will come and worshipme.
They implicitly rejected theidea that the covenant could go
out to the gentile nations.
And what they were doing?
like I'm not explaining theprophecies that the gentiles

(01:45:31):
would be in the mix and it showshow the modern jews the enmity
between jews and gentiles isalways going to be there,
because they reject the ideathat god would ever honor the
gentiles in any way whatsoever.
It was always going to be themconquering the world as Israel

(01:45:54):
and the world being subject tothem, and that is what the
modern state of Israel is.
They are trying to conquer theworld.
Yeah, I think America isessentially just at this point.

Speaker 6 (01:46:07):
it's, it's sad because you know you love this
country, because it isresponsible for, um, giving you
everything, all the experiencesyou've ever had and the
beautiful geography, the peoplein it, the fun times that you've
had, the things that they offeryou, like, um, that feeling of
patriotism, but it's.
But it's misguided and a lot ofpeople put priority over it.

(01:46:30):
The same Protestants, Iguarantee and I don't want to
make an uncharitable generalityhere, but I think this is true
with specific individuals enough, anecdotally, to make the
statement that they wouldn'thave a problem of pushing over a
Mary statue or something likethat or any sort of image being.
They'll really take it there,you know, like the evangelicals,

(01:46:53):
but burning the American flag,like throw them in jail, like
I've seen that duality fromProtestants, I've seen it for a
second and so, and then the ideathat like we have a culture,
like we don't have a culture.
And then what is it?
Was it Pope Pius XIII thatwrote the encyclical about the
Americanism heresy?

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
No, leo, was it Pope Leo XIII?

Speaker 6 (01:47:21):
Leo XIII, just like, uh, the idea that, yeah, and you
look everywhere and it's likewe're quote unquote, learning
from other cultures like we, wedon't really have a culture.
It's like hot dogs, beer,barbecue, funny movies, music
and pop culture.
It's all.
It's all.
Very like jewish influenced,whether it's media or the slop.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
yeah, we really have an anti-culture Right.
You know, it's something thattears cultures apart.

Speaker 6 (01:47:48):
Yeah, it is.
It's the place where culturecomes to die, where Italians
come here, irish people comehere and then, next thing you
know, it's like the accent isgone.
Sitting at the dinner table.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
I wish the Italian accent was gone.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Wait, can I tell you guys something?
So my uncle went to Sicily, mydad's brother and so, like I was
watching uh, I was watching avideo today of, like this um,
this estate in england where itgoes back to the ninth century.

(01:48:25):
The same family had this estatein their family and the and,
like you know, it was passed onfrom generation to generation.
Now that family is losing thatestate, but it's been in that
family for a thousand years.
Like I don't really know mygenealogy, I don't really know
anybody past my greatgrandfather.
My uncle goes to Sicily to seethe home my great grandfather

(01:48:46):
grew up in.
When he goes there, he sees apicture of my great-grandfather
and he sees Lucky Luciano in thepicture.
Wow, lucky Luciano was mygreat-grandfather's first cousin
, oh my God.
So the past two days I've beenwatching Lucky Luciano

(01:49:08):
documentaries.
Wow, because it's interestingwhen you go back and you
actually learn like, oh my gosh,man, like my family member
created organized crime inAmerica.
Like, literally, like mygreat-grandfather's first cousin
was the chairman of the board.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
I'll be honest, I'm not even a little bit surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
So but Lucky Luciano is an interesting guy because he
does start organized crime inAmerica.
He's the one who comes up withLacoste or Nostra, he's the one
that comes in Like he and hecreates all this stuff in
America, then he gets.
He gets a prison.
Creates all this stuff inAmerica, then he gets.
He gets a prison sentence forprostitution in America.
And during world war two thegovernment comes to him because

(01:49:57):
we invade Italy.

Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
Yeah, we needed the help on Sicily.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
We needed the help of the mob.
So they go to Luciano first andask him to help because there
was a, there was a at the NewYork ports.
There was a German submarineattacked an American vessel at
the New York ports.
So they go to the mob.
They go to Lucky Luciano andthey're like hey, can you help

(01:50:24):
us out?
And he doesn't want to do it atfirst.
And Maya Lansky comes to himand talks to him.
Bugsy Siegel, I think it was.
Maya Lansky comes to him andhe's like listen, work with the
government, help them out andjust protect the ports.
So he goes and he tells the mobhe's like we're going to
protect the ports.
No other attacks happen on theports.

(01:50:47):
Now America's got to go andinvade Sicily because they got
to go and take care of Mussolini.
And Luciano puts a call in tothe Sicilian mob guys and he
says listen, when the Americantroops come in, you got to help
them.
And they do.
The mob in Italy helps theAmerican troops.
They come in, they help themout a lot.
So after World War II is over,lucky Luciano goes to the

(01:51:08):
government.
He's got a 50, 50 to lifesentence.
He goes to them and he's like Ihelped you during the war.
Can you guys give me a pardon?
So they give him a pardon, butthey tell him you got to go live
in Sicily.
So Lucky Luciano goes back toSicily To live at my great
grandfather's Fricking house.

(01:51:28):
And he lives at the house mygreat grandfather grew up in At
Perth.
He's in Sicily, Then he windsup moving to Naples and Lucky
Luciano later on in life.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
Winds up, Bro.
Your relative got Mussolinikilled you a-hole.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
A saint A guy who's probably in heaven but he ends
up having he builds a hospital,like he ends up having this very
charitable heart towards theend of his life, like he gets a
he.
He ends up having like badrelations with the mob in
america and he and he's gotmillions and millions of dollars
from selling heroin.
He's loaded like you can'timagine and he's over there.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
He winds up the gold chains.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
The man he ends up having a very charitable heart
and he builds a hospital and hesaid people would wait for lucky
luciano in in naples and theywould come to lucky my, my
husband.
He loads his job, this and thatand he would literally just go
around doing charitable works insicily.
When, when he dies he dies of aheart attack at 65 years old

(01:52:34):
there's like a million people athis funeral.
Like I dude, I went down thisrabbit hole to like discover all
this stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:52:40):
You have no idea when you were watching the thing and
it showed where he lived.
Was it the same?

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
you saw my uncle showed me the picture of my
great-grandfather with luckyluciano, like I was like you
gotta be kidding me.
This is the craziest thing ever.

Speaker 6 (01:52:53):
Oh, this just in because uh, nick isn't here,
nick cavazos isn't here umupdate that trump alerted israel
that they will not take anypart of involvement in a strike
against iran.
That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
Yeah, Rubio put something out too, saying that
Israel took unilateral actionagainst Iran.
We are not involved in strikesagainst Iran and our our top
priority is protecting Americanforces in the region.
Let me be clear Iran should nottarget us interests or
personnel.

Speaker 6 (01:53:23):
You're on your own.
Thank God, yeah, seriously,thank God.
Thank god, I mean it's just.
It's a shame because, yeah, Iwant to recover the only way to
recover america and america thatwe can be proud of and
patriotic because it is.
It was said by another pope wasthat pope pious, that the
patriotism is good, or was thatalso leo?
I mean I'm sure lots of popeshave said that right I'm

(01:53:47):
thinking of one in particular,but um, yeah, I'm really, um,
you know not well, read on that.
But yeah, patriotism like thatcame in conflict with this whole
idea that like we have to getrid of patriotism because it's
like a sort of false idol.
But I suppose we have to strikea balance and be patriotic
insofar as it we look out forthe, the betterment of the

(01:54:09):
nation when it fails, and how toimprove it, how to protect it,
how to keep it morallyupstanding so that it is worth
protecting, and yada, yada, yada.
But the only way to do that.
It really is like thedesensitization and attack on
christianity is like sointentional and coordinated and
it's like it's so easy to seethe people that have never

(01:54:29):
looked into it that wouldtotally disagree that they're
just some spinning accident inthe universe, even if they do
believe that.
If you challenge them on it andyou're like so you only
chemically, biologically, loveyour mother.
Your mother's just space dirtCause I believe she's a unique
created, created by god and andwilled to be here in her heart.

(01:54:52):
Her name is written on god'sheart, but you just think she's
just space goop and in theyou'll often get some sort of
like a little shine in theireyes when you bring it to a
personal level like that.
It's like you don't believethat.
You don't believe that, youdon't believe that so many say
they believe things that theydon't actually believe.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
It's actually like even the I I call people out on
it all the time.
It's like you.
You say, you believe that, butyou don't actually like, you
don't live.
You don't live as though youbelieve that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
You say it right, you're not acting like nothing
matters like you think theworld's ending, but you don't do
anything to get ready for itthis life, the life is just it's
, it's meaningless.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
I honestly want to get taken out in in the blast
when russia does the false flagon new york city.
I don't want to live throughthe apocalypse.
I used to think I wanted to.
I used to think like give me adid someone say space?
I used to think I wanted to livethrough like the apocalypse and
like be in.

(01:56:02):
Like I don't want to livethrough it.
I want to be taken out in theblast.
I don't want anything to dowith it.
I don't need roaming bands ofvagabonds coming and kidnapping
my daughters.
Like I don't want anything.
I hope we're all taken out inthe blast.

Speaker 6 (01:56:14):
It's so it all seems very terrible because it's like
uh, you know, the ideal is likeokay, I got weapons, I got my
gear, we're traveling, we have alittle gunfight, we win.
We go to a place that some got,somebody else like needs help.
He's like an older guy that hasa bunker.
He's like I could use your help.
And then you're a team and nowthat civilization starts, it's
not gonna happen.
You're gonna be tired, you'reout of bullets, you're carrying

(01:56:36):
wet stuff, it rains, it's coldyou won't be able to purify
water.

Speaker 3 (01:56:40):
You'll be dead in four days yeah, once you're
walking, dead happened.

Speaker 6 (01:56:46):
Honestly, that show went on too long.
There was after season three.
There was too many episodes.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
Is that because?
Is that because the agent gotkilled in season three?

Speaker 6 (01:56:53):
Ryan, that's the only time that I tuned back in when
they, when they faked, killedhim when he survived.
That like trampling I was likeI'm done.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
I know she should have died Like she should have
died.

Speaker 6 (01:57:06):
You do kind of look like him.
I have no allegiance to Asians.
I'm a Puerto Rican guy.
I'm forcing myself to have anaffinity for Japanese stuff
because they are pretty cool butthey are perfidious as well the
Japanese are perfidious theykind of believe in the Jew in
them they believe in sand andthe power of the water.

(01:57:32):
Who made the water slanty?
No, I'm just kidding no, but um.
So wait your dad's japanese andyour mom's puerto rican, yeah
okay and we were just, we werejust catholic, pilling her the
whole time.
We took her to Mass.
It was a Novus Ordo.
I've been really pleasantlysurprised with the Novus Ordos.

(01:57:52):
I've been going to the onegoing backwards, the last one
and then the one before thatbecause we were traveling the
past two weekends.
The one in Austin I've beenmeaning to go back to it held a
Latin Mass and then the AustinDiocese remember that they
stopped it.
Yeah, so that was between thelast time I went, where was a
latin mass, legitimately atorientum, and all that, and then

(01:58:14):
now they have a latin novusordo, so it's still reverent,
they still have all the chance.
And then I went to a regularnovus ordo and what I saw was
not ad orientum, ad populae,whatever.
Yeah, versus populae Versuspopulae and hold on a second a
guitar.
But it wasn't strumming guitar,it was a nylon string and it

(01:58:38):
was Gregorian chant that he wassinging to it.
So I was conflicted, I was likethat's the least offensive
guitar ever.
But I was almost like oh no,and everything in Latin except
for the Our Father, the readings, and there was chant all

(01:59:00):
throughout, even the offertoryhymns and all that.
What else was there about that?
Oh, then we received from bothspecies the body and the blood,
so they had.
Now here's the thing there wereeucharistic ministers with the
chalice, holding the chalice.
They're not actually touching,you know, the blood, but they're
holding still a.
Yeah, it's okay, it's all right,we'll forgive you, that's okay,

(01:59:23):
but I it was like I got I waswelling up just thinking about
being able to to sit from thechalice.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
Yeah, anywho, um I hope you get her person that
went before you oh my gosh Ididn't say that I'm protected
it's not my fault, it's the ipaA.

Speaker 6 (01:59:43):
I'm literally sacramentally protected.

Speaker 3 (01:59:45):
A little bit of the perfidious Japanese came through
there Ant.

Speaker 6 (01:59:49):
You anime-watching weirdo.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Okay, all right, listen.
It's two hours.
We have to wrap this because Ihave to get some sleep.
Ryan, why don't you let mecomment?

Speaker 6 (01:59:59):
Last thing.
So when we were talking tothose Protestants outside, it
was me with the OrthoBro teamingup.
What's it called that?
Yeah, there were people thatknew of the show, so I was I was
happy.
Yeah, I was like.
I know those guys.
I forget what episode Ireferenced.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
You should send them the episode that you were on.
I should?
I should send the voice theJimmy Akin episode I sent.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
I sent the Jimmy Akin impression to dyer and he was
loving it.
He was like he called him anerd, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:00:36):
I like the uh, the episode of anthony reviewing all
the butt rock dude.

Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
Oh no, wait, you know .
Thank you, I gotta tell yousomething that jimmy aiken
episode.

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
Uh, father isaac thought I really had jimmy a on
and he was mad at me.
Bless his heart.
He's like you got these guys,jimmy Akin, coming on.
I'm like that wasn't Jimmy Akin, I swear.

Speaker 6 (02:00:57):
What's next Ruslan?
What's next Ruslan?
These guys got everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:01:03):
He's like how are you going to have a guy like Jimmy
Akin?
I'm like I didn't have Jimmy Alike jimmy aiken.
I'm like I didn't have jimmyaiken on.
We were making fun of him.
I promise it wasn't him.
Oh man, that's sort of funny,um all right, yeah, dude, I do
have to get some sleep.
Uh, ryan, it sucks that yourkids go to bed so late, because
you're gonna come on anytime youwant man well, yeah, one night,
you know, I mean, the thing ismy.

Speaker 6 (02:01:24):
My wife was with the kids for the past three days in
a row while I was in Austin.
If you give it some time, I'llbe like we could do a full night
where I'm off.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
Tell your wife I miss her.
I'm going to see if me andNicole can come up to Rhode
Island and come and hang withyou guys.

Speaker 6 (02:01:43):
That would be amazing .
You would love it.
It's one of the most Catholic.
I think it's the most Catholicstate by the numbers, by
statistics.
Take the boat.
I saw two different.
So this is crazy.
On a Friday, on a meatlessFriday, this isn't the most
penitent meal, but I was havinga cheese pizza at this place and

(02:02:03):
I was looking outside theythere was an icon and it was the
sorrowful mysteries, obviouslythat day.
And uh, there was an icon of ofjesus dropping the cross or
falling for the third time and Iwas like what it was like right
on the telephone pole.
Then I go to fill up my gas ata gas station and there's like,
uh, our lady of seven sorrows Ithink it is a sticker on the guy
.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
there's a catholic, yeah you'll see some little
little catholic every car has arosary hanging.

Speaker 6 (02:02:29):
It's, it's pretty cool.
I mean, it's not like acrossthe board, but it's very
prevalent.
You would notice it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
You'd be like whoa, it's not quite stupidville, but
it's, it's, it's really, we'llhave to come up and visit your
fssp parish and, uh, come andmeet all the people that you've,
you've, uh, you've made friendswith up there.

Speaker 6 (02:02:46):
So all right, I already mentioned you and they
said this all right For myparish.
When I mentioned you, they werelike oh, can't we know them?

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
Catholic Palooza, august 16th in Rutherford, new
Jersey.
Anybody that's in the area, gobuy tickets.
I'm trying to see.
I mean I got to talk to Eochand see where he's staying this
time because I did take him lasttime.
But it is a bit of a drive.
We gotta see, but uh, all right.
So catholic palooza, rutherford, new jersey, august 16th, ryan.
Thanks for coming on, man,we'll talk soon.

(02:03:18):
Keep keep in touch with me andwe'll get you back on whenever
you got time we'll do soundsgood guys take care, take us out
, rob.
Thank you.

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