October 23, 2025 • 63 mins
A fake video goes viral, a holiday explodes across timelines, and suddenly everyone’s arguing about culture, borders, and the Church. We dig into how AI hoaxes and algorithmic rage bait are reshaping the conversation around faith and public life, and why the loudest narratives keep winning—even when they’re empty. From the latest deepfakes attributed to church leaders to the Vatican’s two-year TLM extensions, we unpack mixed signals, real consequences, and the deeper question: what holds a community together when trust is thin?
We share how these online storms feed real exhaustion, then look squarely at leadership and language. When violence targets Christians, “it’s just social conflict” won’t do; words matter when souls and lives are at stake. We explore the line between preaching principles and prescribing policy, why unity requires honest clarity, and how ecumenism can serve truth without dissolving identity. Along the way, we examine the pipeline that turns AI slop into viral fuel, the role of click farms with no stake in the Church, and the spiritual hazard of living inside an outrage machine.
Finally, we turn inward: a new generation of orthodox seminarians, old power networks, and how healthy parishes can coexist with conflicted leadership. The path forward isn’t flashy: curate your inputs, guard your attention, build local trust, support clear teaching, and pray for courage. If you’re tired of noise but hungry for substance, this conversation keeps the focus on first things—truth, charity, and the hard work of real unity.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:10):
Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, concerning
false videos and imagescirculating online, it has come
to my attention that certaindeceptive productions are being
circulated which attribute tome.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:42):
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entirely false.
SPEAKER_07 (00:54):
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So sounds good to me.
Um, yeah, dude, I've I've had auh wait, we kind of have to talk
(01:40):
about that because I never heardof Diwali before.
SPEAKER_06 (01:46):
I think I heard it a year or two ago.
SPEAKER_07 (01:49):
But it just seems like such a strange thing.
Where like in the past fewyears, we got um what the heck
is his name that ran forpresident?
Um what the heck is his name?
Uh Vivek Vivek, Vivek Robaswamy.
Then we got um JD Vance's wife,uh Usha.
(02:10):
Usha.
And like all of a sudden,Indians are like everywhere.
It's like oh don't oh don'tforget uh cash cash patel.
It's like they have astroturfedthe the Indians everywhere
thing.
SPEAKER_06 (02:24):
That's what Indians do.
You get one of them in somewhereand they bring everyone over.
SPEAKER_07 (02:29):
It's so nuts.
Did you see the um celebrationsin in London for Diwali?
Yeah, it's insane because I'venever seen a Christian
celebration like that in London.
No, not in our lifetimes.
And it's I mean, I just I don'tknow, man.
All of this stuff, it just feelslike everything is so shaky,
(02:51):
like all of society is on theverge of cracking everywhere,
like all over.
Oh, it just feels likeeverywhere, everything is so
fragile right now.
And the the whole Diwali thingyesterday was just so bizarre,
man.
It's like they were just tryingto shove it down on throw Trump
at the White House doing thedoing the celebration there, and
(03:13):
with this with the Vatican doingit, it just I don't know, man.
I don't know what to make of allof it.
And then and then you have um uha Muslim kid stabbing a kid at a
Catholic school in England, youhave riots going on in Dublin
(03:33):
right now because they let amigrant basically get away with
um a 10-year-old girl.
It feels like everywhere theworld is just so turbulent right
now.
Um you watch the videos down onCanal Street by me.
Now, Canal Street was alwayslike they always sold design,
(03:54):
like fake designer knockoff bagsand stuff.
Um, and it used to be theChinese down there, but what has
happened on Canal Street isinsane.
Like it's just like an open-airdrug market down there now,
counterfeit everything, and it'sjust run by African migrants.
It's nuts.
Um, wow, this is all horrible.
I think we need an encyclical onclimate shit.
(04:14):
Yeah, no, no, they're gonna giveus an encyclical on open borders
on how how we should we shouldallow this to continue.
I don't understand what likewhere is any I don't know.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_06 (04:29):
They just don't live in the real world, and that's
what it comes down to.
They're either completelyignorant because they don't live
in the real world, and those arethe good faith ones, or they're
just evil men.
SPEAKER_07 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's malice.
I think it's malice.
I can't, I at this point, Imean, the things that we're
seeing is just like even whenyou even if when you see the
amount of tension it's causingin all the countries that are
allowing the migration to come,like you're you're watching
(05:01):
people's lives like they're thewhole all of our countries are
just being completely ununnerved right now, and instead
of any kind of empathy towardsthe people who are having their
countries ripped apart, it'sjust shut up and be kind, shut
up and be kind.
Do you have to do you have to dothis?
You have and it's just I don'tknow, man.
SPEAKER_06 (05:21):
I don't know where it all goes, but I think in like
um I think Spain, like theaverage person lives on like ten
thousand dollars a year, right?
Equivalent to you know to ourcurrency, and yet so so in
America, like that would be likevery, very poor.
And yet they want Spain to takein hundreds and hundreds of
(05:43):
thousands of migrants.
It's how is that helping thepoor?
It's it's creating the poor, itjust creating the poor, exactly.
SPEAKER_07 (05:53):
I don't know, man.
I don't know what the hell isgoing on here.
I'm I'm like, I have a hard timekeeping up with everything
lately.
Like the last week, I've had areally hard time keeping up with
everything, but the the DiWalistuff yesterday just kind of
blew my mind.
I was like, they're it's justlike out of nowhere, this is
everywhere, and they're justtrying to force it down our
throats.
(06:13):
This is like worse than theKwanzaa thing, like where they
were trying to make us acceptKwanzaa as a real thing.
Like, I don't know, I don't Idon't get how this helps
anything.
I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_06 (06:26):
Kwanzaa, Juneteenth, Dwali.
Everything that they can do,they'll do everything possible
to to suppress, like you know,the holidays of of Christendom
of America.
SPEAKER_07 (06:41):
Yeah, like um like any kind of Christianity that
this country had roots in, likethey're trying to, it's so nuts.
I mean, in the past past fiveyears, it's gotten completely
out of hand.
Um, I guess we'll we'll jumpright into Burke.
The the Burke situation was justweird to me.
Um only because I had never seenan AI Burke video.
SPEAKER_06 (07:03):
I had never seen one either.
SPEAKER_07 (07:05):
I I just and so it was it was kind of it was the
whole thing just seemed kind ofstrange.
Where I don't know, let's walklet's watch the Burke video,
we'll go through it and andwe'll we'll kind of criticize
it.
Not criticize, but just like Idon't know.
I don't I it just seemed kind ofstrange to me.
SPEAKER_06 (07:23):
Okay, let me pull it up here.
SPEAKER_02 (07:36):
Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, concerning
false videos and imagescirculating online, it has come
to my attention that certaindeceptive productions are being
circulated which attribute to mewords of opposition to his
holiness Pope Leo XIV.
(07:58):
These reports claim that I havedelivered a so-called rebuke of
the Holy Father regarding histeaching and governance of the
Church.
I state with all clarity thatsuch assertions are entirely
false.
I have made no such statements,nor have I given any address or
(08:22):
interview even remotelyresembling what is being
described.
These videos are fabrications,works of deceit produced through
technological manipulation of myimage to convey messages that I
have never delivered.
The deliberate use of falsehoodto sow division within the
(08:47):
church is gravely sinful.
Our Lord Himself teaches us thatthe devil was a murderer from
the beginning and has nothing todo with the truth, because there
is no truth in him.
When he lies, he speaksaccording to his own nature, for
he is a liar and the father oflies.
SPEAKER_07 (09:11):
I mean, we don't have to watch the whole three
and a half minutes, but we'llpause it there just because I
want to I want to discuss thatso far.
So I had originally thought hesaid there were AI, like made it
look like him doing it, butthere are these like AI slop
videos that are on YouTube thatare just they're so ridiculously
obvious that they're AI that Idon't even think, yeah, like
(09:34):
this is these are so ridiculous.
SPEAKER_06 (09:37):
Yeah, so for anyone who it's been over the last one,
two, maybe three months, all ofa sudden there are multiple just
complete AI channels popping upin every sort of category you
can think of.
Like it, like this one at thebottom is weird.
If you go to this this channel,it's supposed to be about MMA
(09:58):
fighting.
Yet, you know, whatever whateverresearch they're doing told them
that day that a of an a videoabout Burke talking about Leo
would get views, so they poppedout an AI video about that.
Like they're it is weird that AIvideos are popping up for every
(10:18):
every YouTuber out there almost.
SPEAKER_07 (10:20):
I mean, not smaller ones like us, but but the
implication that he's making isthat it's Catholics doing this,
and it's not.
No, it's not, it's these aren'tCatholics, people that are mad
at me over my tweet.
Yeah, it exactly.
(10:40):
That's that's what this is.
This is it's so Ed Penton wrotean article that kind of implied
that it was maybe Chris Jacksonand Stephen Cox behind it, and
it's like no, this isridiculous.
Like, that's not at all thesituation, and then and then
Michael Matt came out, and he'slike, This is outlandish, and
anybody doing this should ceaselike cease and it's like
(11:03):
nobody's doing this.
What are you talking?
It was just it's the same peoplethat are making all the other AI
videos of everyone, ofeverything.
It's it's an AI creating the AIvideos, I think.
SPEAKER_06 (11:16):
Probably it could be, yeah.
SPEAKER_07 (11:18):
It's it's there's not it's not Catholics trying to
sow dissension in the church atall.
SPEAKER_06 (11:25):
So it was just it's a bunch of overseas scammers
just trying to get ad revenue.
SPEAKER_07 (11:29):
That's all it is.
So when he put that video out, Iwas just like, what the heck
even is this?
Like, what I think it was thisweird um opportunity for him to
just profess his undying loyaltyto Leo.
SPEAKER_06 (11:43):
I don't know if he like I I mean he's a boomer, you
know.
He doesn't know who's making thehe probably does think what he
was saying and just doesn'trealize it.
SPEAKER_07 (11:59):
Yeah, I mean, you know what it you know what it
was, it's like the guys likeBurke and um Sarah even or
Sarah, um, under Francis, likewhen when the doc when the
doctrine got a little, you know,when when like Amoris Otitia
came out and stuff, and we ohwe're gonna present the dubia,
(12:19):
and you know, this is confusing,and then when the married
priesting came up, Sarah wrotethat book.
But Sarah might make like acomment here and there about you
know how Islam is gonna destroyEurope, but there's no there's
no one like in the hierarchythat's concerned with the things
we're concerned about.
SPEAKER_06 (12:40):
No, if anything, uh they think it's just farmers
versus goat herders.
SPEAKER_07 (12:45):
Uh maybe Schneider.
Schneider is Schneider, yeah.
Schneider seems to be likeSchneider, Schneider and um and
Strickland.
SPEAKER_06 (12:53):
I I think um isn't there one cardinal, younger
cardinal from it's either Norwayor Sweden.
I think his last name startswith a V.
I think he's maybe mentionedimmigration a few times because
his country is you know uh underattack through it, but yeah, it
(13:17):
it's almost there's a very fewof them.
There's just so few.
SPEAKER_07 (13:20):
And it's not but I I think even Strickland needs to
talk about the immigration issuemore, and it's not this isn't a
um a political issue at thispoint.
This isn't like a um it's notlike conservative versus liberal
and or Republican versusDemocrat at this point.
Like we are we're really gettinginto some dangerous stuff here
where our countries, and it'snot just America, it's America
(13:43):
might withstand it better thanEurope, but Europe seems like
it's on the precipice right now,like about to completely just
fall off a cliff everywhere.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what the I don'tknow what happens, and then so
you could finish playing it outbecause he goes on to just it's
it's it's almost like he's umman, I don't I don't know, I
(14:07):
don't know what happens underLeo.
Well I don't know.
Things are kind of gettingshaken.
SPEAKER_06 (14:12):
Eric Varden, yeah, that's what I was talking about.
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
These falsified productions bear the
unmistakable mark of the evilone.
Whoever seeks to confuse the Didhe just call the subcontinent
the evil one?
The faithful, and to set brotheragainst brother within the body
of Christ.
(14:38):
I therefore declare publicly andunequivocally my obedience,
filial love, and unwaveringrespect for the Supreme Pontiff,
Pope Leo XIV, the vicar ofChrist on earth.
The unity of the church aroundthe successor of Saint Peter is
(14:59):
willed by our Lord Himself andis essential to the integrity of
our Catholic faith.
I urge all the faithful to giveattentive heed to the authentic
teaching of the Holy Father andnot to the voices of division
which distort the truth forworldly purposes and sow the
(15:22):
seeds of scandal among souls.
Let us respond to this situationnot with anger or suspicion, but
with faith and prayer.
The Christian's first recoursein every trial is always to the
(15:42):
heart of Jesus, who conquersfalsehood by the power of his
truth and love.
I ask you therefore to prayearnestly for those who create
and spread such deceptions, thattouched by divine grace, they
may turn from darkness to thelight of truth, from the bondage
(16:05):
of lies to the freedom ofconversion, and be reconciled to
God, who is rich in mercy andabounding and steadfast love.
SPEAKER_06 (16:19):
Yeah, I don't know why he got so worked up over
some Indian AI slop.
SPEAKER_07 (16:24):
Indian AI slop and um I don't know, man.
I I don't know because thethings were the things we're
seeing under Leo are not helpfulafter all.
Like um the okay, so even theum, so they got an extension in
(16:45):
Cleveland for the TLM, for theirTLM, right?
But they request they theyrequested a five-year extension.
So the the bishop requested anadditional five years.
The Holy See granted two yearswith the following instruction.
We ask that you continueresolutely to lead the faithful
who are attached to the uhanterior ritual form towards
full appreciation and acceptanceof the liturgical books renewed
(17:08):
by the decree of the secondVatican Council and promulgated
by Pope St.
Paul VI, John Paul II.
Furthermore, they recommend thatone of the masses usually
celebrated according to the 1962Missal be celebrated in Latin
using the current Missal.
So they asked for five years,they gave them two, they said,
We'll give you two, and we wantyou to start orienting your
(17:30):
parishioners towards the newmissile, and we'll give you your
Latin novus order.
SPEAKER_06 (17:35):
Now, to be fair, I I do think it's either traditionus
custodus itself or the um thethe dubia rescript that states
that two-year dispensations canbe given.
SPEAKER_07 (17:48):
Oh, so they they won't, they're not allowed.
So I the they were there was atesting ground there, I think.
SPEAKER_06 (17:53):
I I think so, and I think it shows that yeah, that
the best we're gonna get is uhat least two years stick to
stick to Francis's documents.
SPEAKER_07 (18:07):
That's that's depressing, man.
Uh so well, all right.
So what I'm thinking is thebishops who keep asking for
their two years, they'll get it.
SPEAKER_06 (18:15):
But at least okay, well then then what about
Knoxville?
Because right, because Knoxvilleclaimed that they asked for an
extension, and the the DDW toldthem no, you're shutting it
down.
So either the Vatican is pickingand choosing which ones, and if
they're doing so, I I you knowwhat are the reasons for that,
(18:39):
or Knoxville's lying.
SPEAKER_07 (18:42):
Knoxville's bishop didn't ask for an extension.
I don't think they asked for anextension.
I think maybe, maybe, yeah,maybe not.
I don't know.
I think their extension was upand they didn't ask for a
renewal.
SPEAKER_06 (18:52):
It very well could be.
SPEAKER_07 (18:55):
I don't know.
So I'm I'm seeing it as like thethe bishops who like really like
are in favor of the TLM, likethey'll keep giving them their
extensions, but as those guysage out, they're gonna replace
them with their own guys, andyou're gonna eventually get all
these new guys that just getelevated that have been elevated
for the past 10 years goingforward, and you're just it's
gonna they're going to wipe itout as best they can on the
(19:16):
diocesan level.
SPEAKER_06 (19:19):
Yeah, I think I think that's pretty clearly the
Vatican's goal.
SPEAKER_07 (19:22):
Yeah, I have no like hope for some restoration of the
diocesan TLM.
SPEAKER_06 (19:27):
I think Leo's Vatican is gonna be not as um
confrontational about it, youknow.
So it'll drag it out a littlebit longer, but it does seem
like that is still the goal ofthe Vatican, yeah.
SPEAKER_07 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah.
Leo's just he's he's gonna likeput put like uh an a nice
smoothness to the uh approach,but it's the same approach.
I mean, that's what it seemslike to me.
Yeah, I don't see how to seethings differently.
Um you have uh uh it very few.
I mean, uh Schneider Schneidercame out with an interview.
(20:07):
Um, the church continue cannotcontinue into further confusion.
Um uh let's see.
Let me let's skip that.
Okay, so uh Schneider said wecannot continue as a church to
go further into confusion, hewarned.
Petitioning Pope Leo to performa clarifying action to
strengthen the entire church andfaith.
(20:29):
Um, I don't see this happening,guys.
And um let's are there any goodquestions in this?
Um sorry, I should have probablyread through this beforehand.
I just saw you put an interviewout.
Um would you say uh what do yousay are the most pressing needs
in the church today?
(20:50):
I would say the most pressingneed is that the Pope should
strengthen the entire church infaith, which is his first task,
one of the main tasks of a pope,which God himself gave to Peter
and his successors.
It is evident to all that thelife of the church is immersed
in an unprecedented confusion offaith regarding faith, morals,
and liturgy.
The church is really immersed ina kind of dust or mist of
confusion.
See, I don't agree with that.
(21:11):
I think that like the faithfulknow the faith.
I think what's in confusion isthis hierarchy.
SPEAKER_06 (21:18):
I mean, the faithful clearly clearly doesn't know the
faith, though.
When you have 90% of themsupporting contraception.
Well, that yeah, I don't evenconsider those faithful.
Well, I mean, you can't justwrite off 90% of the church,
yeah.
Like like that, that is thehierarchy's job, right?
To save their souls.
(21:38):
So I think now you're sayingthat is what the hierarchy needs
to do is save the souls of the90% of confirmed Catholics who
who don't follow the faith atall.
Yeah, but I I do understand whatyou mean, yes.
For those of us who try to livefaithfully, yeah, like we we
know what the church teaches.
SPEAKER_07 (21:57):
It's not like the the it's not so much it's not so
much a confusion about the faithas it is a confusion of who the
hell are these men that havetaken over the church?
Yeah, like what is going on?
Like we have had a completetakeover of the church, but you
look, we always had bad actorsin the church.
(22:18):
You always had that throughoutthe entire history of the
church, but what has happenednow is unprecedented.
Well, I mean, if 80% of thehierarchy was Aryan, like yeah,
I guess it's just because of thethe level of the top that we're
talking about, but it was Imean, it it is just so freaking
(22:40):
confusing right now, man.
Yeah, and and it's not so muchthat you know, yeah, that I
guess that I guess I guessSchneider's right, you know.
Um but that everybody's makingthis about it's just liturgy,
it's not just liturgy, man.
I really think the ecumenismthing is so bad right now, so
bad right now.
(23:01):
Like ecumenism and the openborder stuff, all of it is just
it is going to be the thing thatswallows up the church
completely.
And I'm I'm just going back andthinking about Christ's words,
like when he outlike, sorry,guys, it's gonna be one of those
shows that I haven't slept much,but have um when I when when the
(23:24):
son of man returns, will he findany faith left on earth?
Because it seems like what we'regoing through is the great
apostasy right now.
It's so bad, and then all thestuff happening in the world on
top of that, watching nationsfeel like they're crumbling
around us.
I don't know.
(23:46):
Um so all right, so forSchneider wants fiducia
supplicans.
Um yeah, he's gonna he's gonnago back to those main things.
I I don't I haven't really heardany of the hierarchy talk about
immigration though, like any anyof them.
SPEAKER_06 (24:03):
Because it's a I mean they really shouldn't.
Right?
Like they shouldn't interferewith cutting policies.
Well, it's it's a it's a it's aprudential thing of you know of
the the temporal sword, right?
(24:26):
They they can lay out theprinciples and the morals and
things like that.
SPEAKER_07 (24:30):
I don't know, Rob.
I think I think Leo coming outand putting that religious
freedom statement out the otherday again is well that's that's
not a that's not a prudentialstatement about you know the
temporal sphere.
No, well, what I'm saying iswhile all of this immigration is
going on, he puts out astatement on religious freedom.
Like like the Pope should bewarning our leaders to remember
(24:55):
Christ as king, of course.
But do not like this is what thePope and the Bishop should be
exhort should should beexhorting world leaders to do.
You don't have to interfere inthe temporal issues of who they
allow in the country, but youshould be telling them keep your
countries Christian, remember tokeep Christ as king, because
allowing these foreign people tocome in our nations and I I
(25:19):
don't I don't know what they'rethinking.
It's it's a way bigger deal thanthe liturgy.
SPEAKER_06 (25:24):
They don't care, they don't believe Christ is
king, they don't care aboutChristian nations, they don't
they don't believe any of that,you know.
It's this is this is like I'mnot talking about anyone
specifically, I'm not making anydeclarations or accusations
against anyone specifically.
I'm talking about the hierarchyin general, and anyone who who
(25:44):
sits there and doesn't believethat 80% of the hierarchy
doesn't actually believe in theCatholic faith, you're
delusional.
SPEAKER_07 (25:54):
It's just that when like when I saw the thing in um
in London, it to me it was justa pagan celebration happening in
London all over the place.
And former formerly Christiannations celeb like all this talk
of like Christian nationalismgoing on and stuff, it's it's an
(26:16):
important conversation, evenlike the idea that the nations
have crisis came.
This is the problem with thedeclarations on religious
freedom.
It's that like religious freedomshould be tolerated in a country
where you have uh, you know,it's not an explicitly Christian
country, you can tolerate otherreligions, but the way things
(26:39):
are happening right now, it'sbeing foisted upon us as if all
of these things are equal.
And as that's going on in ourcountries, the Vatican is going
about this crazy ecumenicalproject trying to normalize all
of it.
And then Leo last week had thatstatement that he was talking
(27:01):
about how how when immigrantscome in, they don't need to
integrate, they don't need toassimilate, they can keep their
culture when they come in.
They don't need if they'recoming into Italy, they don't
need to become Italian.
SPEAKER_06 (27:12):
Yeah, it's funny how backwards he he has it.
Like I agree a person, like yes,people should keep their
cultures in their nations.
That's why immigration is bad.
You know what I mean?
Like it's the out like why canthe immigrant keep their
culture, language, a nation, butyet we must give up ours to make
(27:35):
it a melting pot.
SPEAKER_07 (27:37):
Um, Kevin reached out to me about this.
Um, um, well, I I told Kevin Ihave to think about like how how
we would do that.
SPEAKER_06 (27:46):
Because I the thing is I would say if it's about
some aspect of learning aboutthe faith, sure.
SPEAKER_07 (27:53):
Yeah, like it's not gonna be a discussion on set of
a contest.
On set of acontism, yeah.
No, I'm not I don't want to dothat.
The thing is, look, it this thesettes are have been like
harassing me lately becausebecause I went off on the on uh
uh uh the rundown the othernight.
But the thing is, even even ifthey're right, it still matters
(28:15):
what is happening.
Like the things we're talkingabout still matter to them just
as much as they matter to us,because the even if Leo is not a
valid pope, whether he is orisn't, it's irrelevant because
the world thinks the man sittingthere is the pope.
So it's like what whether he'swhether you guys are right or
not is irrelevant in the eyes ofthe world.
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The world sees him as the bishopof Rome, and what the bishop of
Rome does is important.
Um, I see if somebody harassedharasses you, that doesn't
count.
It's just the the whole thewhole thing, it just matters to
you guys.
It's the reason you guys care somuch that trad still say Leo is
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a valid pope, just as much as weare concerned with what this man
is doing in that seat, itmatters to all of us because the
the the hierarchy that is there,whether whether it's valid or
not, is presenting itself as theCatholic Church.
And when when the CatholicChurch changes a teaching, or if
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it softens its approach on ateaching, or if it starts
exhorting the world to open itsborders, like these things
matter whether he's valid ornot.
So to me, it's an irrelevantquestion because it's not
something I'm ever gonna be ableto prove.
It's a good theory.
I don't know, it's just uh wehave Maudsley on Saturday.
SPEAKER_06 (29:40):
Yeah, it won't be a live YouTube show on Saturday,
it will be live on locals.
So everyone make sure you goover to our our locals and join
locals.
Um, but we will put then anysafe clips up on YouTube.
SPEAKER_07 (29:52):
The um, because all of this does have to do with
what we're gonna talk toMaudsley about.
It just does all of it, it's allConnected because what is
happening right now, even withTrump coming in and Palantir
Palantir, and all of likethey're setting up a system
right now, man.
All of this, they're causingchaos, and there's gonna be some
(30:14):
kind of event, and it's like weare leading and marching our way
towards something right now.
And I mean, I can just feel itin my freaking bones that
something scary is coming.
It's it's just the the thingsare so fractured uh amongst all
of us, amongst Catholics,amongst just your just just your
(30:38):
tip like your everyday Americanwho who's arguing with each
other constantly.
All of it is getting it'sgetting pretty pretty crazy out
there, man.
Like I I had to actually turnsocial media off for a couple of
days because it was like I'vebeen barely popping in.
Just it is just it was likeoverwhelming to me trying to pay
attention to work and check thatstuff out.
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And I missed a lot.
I don't know.
Yeah, trading was gettingboring.
Yeah, it will be available onlocals for sure.
Um, yeah, the uh Mausleyinterview will definitely be
available the full thing onlocals right away.
SPEAKER_06 (31:15):
The audio, the full audio will make it out
eventually, not on Saturday,probably Monday, Tuesday.
But we just don't we can't trustYouTube with all of it.
SPEAKER_07 (31:25):
I don't I just don't know where the conversation is
going to go.
And um, I don't want to be likeI don't want to not say
something because we're onYouTube.
I'd rather just be able to havethe conversation we're gonna
have and then see what canwhatever we can put on YouTube,
we will.
And the full thing will be up onlocal.
So if you're a locals member,you'll see the full interview.
We'll put it on locals liveSaturday.
(31:46):
So if you guys want to watch it,it's it's 9 a.m.
Eastern on Saturday.
We're gonna have uh FatherMaudsley on.
But yeah, all of this just Idon't know, because I mean I
I've never seen anadministration like the Trump
administration when it comes toIsrael.
Like it just seems like everyother day there's another member
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of the cabinet going and kissingthat wall.
SPEAKER_06 (32:11):
I I think I think previous administrations were,
but not recently.
Like I think, I think probably Idon't know.
SPEAKER_07 (32:26):
Trump was supposed to come in, he was supposed to
end the war in Ukraine rightaway.
Yeah, and it feels like all wehear about is another member of
a cabinet member going toIsrael, Israel's buying TikTok,
israel Israel is all we hearabout.
Like, I don't you you get to apoint where you don't want to
freaking talk about Israelanymore, but it's everywhere,
(32:46):
all you see, and I don't know ifit's my algorithm or what, but
it's just everywhere.
SPEAKER_06 (32:52):
And I mean that that's another thing, like it's
hard to know how much of theissues we see and and things
really are real.
I mean, now obviouslyimmigration is because we feel
that like in our daily lives,not just online, like we see the
prices of things, we see thecost of housing and and things
(33:12):
like that.
Um, but you know, like like uhas far as the influence of
Israel, you you know, you don'tnecessarily see or feel that in
your daily life outside of theinternet, so it's hard to say
what what the algorithm ispushing and what's not, and the
algorithm is weird now, though.
SPEAKER_07 (33:31):
Like, I I don't see the same people, like you had
that viral tweet.
If you didn't text that to me,I'd have never seen it.
SPEAKER_06 (33:37):
And then I I've had a few people say that people who
I interact with on Twitterdaily.
SPEAKER_07 (33:41):
I did not retweeted it, and people were like, bro,
Rob has a viral tweet, and itdoesn't come across my feet.
Like, what's happening in thealgorithm is very strange right
now.
And I'm not seeing people Ialways see.
I actually changed it over tothe um people I follow
specifically because I was thefor you tab is just the things
that they're showing now, man.
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I don't I don't know.
It's it's they are feeding usrage bait over and over, and it
got it got me that's why mytweet blew up right because it
was a rage tweet, right?
So it went it went haywire.
That and that's all we'regetting now are the tweets that
(34:22):
piss people up.
I'm all I see are videos ofblack people doing crazy stuff.
It's like they're trying to makeme hate, hate, they're trying to
make me racist and anti-Semitic,and they're trying to make me
see everything with like it'sjust all they're trying to do is
enrage all of us.
(34:43):
Um well, bring your tweet upbecause it uh really did look
like an image it looked like thelake of fire, it looked like an
image of hell.
SPEAKER_06 (34:56):
So I'll just I'll bring up the video itself.
Bobby said they're trying tomake you racist.
Taffy's gonna have fun with ohvideos that I cannot share.
SPEAKER_07 (35:12):
Okay, so he is somebody who's prone to it
already to be getting fed thestuff I'm getting fed is not
good.
I'm just telling you.
SPEAKER_06 (35:20):
Um, so it said Hinduism is the most aesthetic
religion, period.
Does that not look like the lakeof fire?
I mean, it it just and that'swhat I tweeted.
I said it literally looks likehell on earth.
(35:43):
What what do you add on that?
Uh let me go hold on.
Yeah, bring your tweet up.
I want to see yours.
4.5 million views.
SPEAKER_07 (35:52):
Are you gonna beat me?
My record is five million.
That thing's gonna pass by.
SPEAKER_06 (35:56):
Well, and so like I I was watching it catch up to
Kale's ball cap tweet.
They're like, Kale's ball captweet only got like 2,000 likes
with 3.8 million views.
I'm at 174,000 likes.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_07 (36:13):
It just it just the the thing is Twitter is run by
Indian bot farms, like there'sso many Indian bots on Twitter,
and that tweet got to the Indianbot, and they were enraged by
it.
SPEAKER_06 (36:27):
The number of replies from accounts that look
like they're white guys namedJohn Smith at reply in Hindi is
incredible.
SPEAKER_07 (36:36):
It's so funny because that no, like every all
right.
So, first off, Rob's beengetting a ton of death threats,
right?
Yep, but every every singleAmerican that saw that said
this.
Wait, said I don't know if itlooks like somebody said, Can
you imagine the smell?
Like, that's all everybody canyou imagine the smell, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (36:55):
Like, oh man, Jim says Ant's gonna report the
tweet so it doesn't be this.
I'm famous in India.
I'm also uh it's probably notsafe for me to travel there.
SPEAKER_07 (37:10):
It's um did you see who uh wouldn't curse Vishnu
online this week?
Yeah, modern Boethius, right?
Look, the thing is, we theeverybody gets on him, but you
guys have to contend withsomething.
He's just repeating stuff theVatican releases, man.
And look, this is kind of thestuff that that frustrates me
(37:33):
with like the Pope splainers whowho aren't like Boe, like like
modern Boetheists and PopeRespecter, those guys are towing
the Vatican line, they're kindof basic.
Whereas there were a lot of guyswho were Pope's planers but were
like, no, no, no, we can't, youknow, like they're not actually
for ecumenism, but they defendthe Pope because they come into
(37:56):
the Catholic faith and theCatholic Church, and that it's
like the noble thing to do is todefend the Pope.
But but deep down, if youquestion them on this stuff,
they're like, Oh, they getuneasy about it, you know?
And like some of this, some ofthe stuff coming from some of
the stuff coming from from Romeis just so bizarre.
SPEAKER_06 (38:19):
Do we want to go over the uh the Parallelin
stuff?
SPEAKER_07 (38:22):
I'll uh yeah, actually, absolutely, yes.
We have to touch on Parallelbefore we go over to locals.
So, yeah, we'll do we'll doParallelin.
Parallel, I mean it it's I Ialmost don't know what to say to
it.
It's evil.
SPEAKER_06 (38:42):
Like this is evil what he said.
So uh speaking at the aid to thechurch and need needs religious
freedom report, what a name.
Um Pietro Cardinal Perry needsreligious freedom report, right?
Says that the violence againstChristians in Nigeria is not a
religious conflict of Muslimagainst Christians, but rather
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more a social one.
For example, disputes betweenherders and farmers.
We should all also recognizethat many Muslims in Nigeria are
themselves victims of this sameintolerance, adding there are
extremist groups that make nodistinctions in pursuing their
goals, they use violence againstanyone they see as an opponent.
So this is this is kind of whatI'm talking about, right?
SPEAKER_07 (39:27):
This isn't this isn't it's Marxism naive, or
this isn't this isn't just youknow like that is pure evil.
Like you're seeing Christiansbeing slaughtered.
Now that they're not just beingslaughtered, it's like become
Muslim or we kill you, and theythey murder the men and they
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enslave the women.
SPEAKER_06 (39:49):
And they they do that in a church, like in a
parent.
And they specifically go to tomass to do this, like and they
will kidnap seminarians andpriests and try to ransom them.
SPEAKER_07 (40:00):
It's like how how the how the how the a
pre-conciliar church would havecalled a crusade.
There would have been a crusadecalled to save our Christian
brothers in Nigeria.
(40:22):
Um bro, I'm a farmer.
I'm not getting in any disputeswith her.
Um all right, so what aboutthis?
Yeah, I heard a priest fromNigeria agreeing with Parallel
and it's not only Christians whoare victims.
SPEAKER_06 (40:36):
I also heard two or three other Nigerian priests
disagreeing with him too.
SPEAKER_07 (40:40):
So but yes, like dismissing, dismissing the just
completely dismissing the thesepoor people's plight is just
well.
SPEAKER_06 (40:52):
The thing is, if if you he says social, right?
He says it's it's more a socialone, but that's not what he's
saying.
He says disputes between herdersand farmers, he's really talking
economics, he's he's coming atit from a Marxist worldview, you
know, the the the bourgeoisieversus the the kulaks on the
farms and and things like that.
So it's he's just a Marxist,he's not a Catholic.
SPEAKER_07 (41:16):
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_06 (41:17):
For sure.
I I don't I but you're right,because he's the same person
that made the deal with theCommunist Party in China.
You so yeah, but I forgot aboutthat.
He really is a Marxist at heart.
SPEAKER_07 (41:32):
Yeah, this stuff.
I don't know.
Look, I didn't I didn't mean tobe just have this be a black
pill episode.
I'm just like the past week hasbeen rough for me.
Do you know who Eric Prince is?
Um, no.
SPEAKER_06 (41:43):
So he he's the founder of Blackwater, the uh oh
yes, I did see that.
Yes, the um the private militarycompany.
So you literally have abillionaire who founded his own
little army going ask saying theVatican, you fund this, and I'll
give you an army to protectChristians.
You know, the best they come upcan come up with is no, it's
herders versus farmers.
SPEAKER_07 (42:06):
I I don't know.
I don't know what happens, man.
I I just I see all of thisescalating.
I see everything, everything.
It's going to get crazier andcrazier, and it's gonna happen
faster and faster, and the worldis gonna get darker.
Um, I don't see any of itimproving.
I think it's going to get well.
I think the situation in thechurch is going to get far
(42:28):
worse.
SPEAKER_06 (42:30):
Um I mean, the situation in our country is
gonna melt down in about 10days.
SPEAKER_07 (42:38):
Oh, if the if they don't get the government over
the LGBT and stuff, yeah.
You're gonna have people robbingeverything.
SPEAKER_06 (42:44):
It's gonna be You're not gonna be the only one, the
algorithms turning racist ifthat happens.
SPEAKER_07 (42:51):
It's just it's just things are getting, I don't
know.
This was uh I'll try to come upwith something better for us to
talk about tomorrow night.
But I just had to because thishas all been on my mind for the
past couple of days when I'mwatching these videos in Dublin
and I'm watching the Diwalistuff, and I'm just like, what
(43:12):
the hell is happening right now?
SPEAKER_06 (43:16):
Uh that's BlackRock.
Black Rock is the monopoly, isthe private equity firm buying
houses.
Blackwater is the militarycompany that got in trouble in
Iraq.
SPEAKER_07 (43:27):
Yeah, I'm um yeah, we'll well, we're gonna go over
the locals and uh we'll figureout what we're gonna talk about
over there.
But yeah, I actually have twothings I want to talk about on
locals.
Uh that are that are a little, Imean, they're they're not
happier or anything, but we'llgo over there and we'll talk
(43:47):
about it.
But uh tomorrow I will try totry to find something better for
tomorrow night.
Tomorrow problem is um I have uhCPR training tomorrow at 5 p.m.
in the city, and I don't knowhow long it runs.
SPEAKER_06 (44:01):
I'm so glad for all of your employees that they no
longer do the rescue breathingportion of it.
Yeah, they don't.
SPEAKER_07 (44:12):
You just basically do chest compressions now.
Yeah, kind of interesting.
Um, but all right, so we aresize.
SPEAKER_06 (44:18):
Anthony says the same news, but also Jews.
Yes, pretty much.
SPEAKER_07 (44:23):
No, I actually I I there's um uh Chris Christopher
Hale uh brought up an articlefrom um uh uh Donahue.
Uh uh who's the who's the uh thethe Catholic Defense League?
Bill Donahue.
Bill Donahue, right?
Bill Donahue in 2012 wrote anarticle saying that that uh
(44:45):
liberals should leave the churchthere, you know, and it's just
kind of funny how the tableshave turned.
It was kind of kind ofinteresting to see the switch.
Uh and then uh there's also butthen linked to that is a Joe
Heshmeier video of him sayingthat liberal Catholicism is
dead, which I agree with, and Ithink it's going to add to I
(45:07):
mean, I guess we can do theHeshmeier video here.
SPEAKER_06 (45:11):
Okay, that's interesting.
That gives me that gives me timeto upload a video for the
beginning of locals here.
Okay, the Heshmeier.
Let me look for it here.
SPEAKER_07 (45:20):
Yeah, wait, where's Bobby's comment?
If Anthony does CPR for morethan a minute, he'll end up
needing it.
CPR is hard.
Yeah, it really is.
Well, the thing is to do itproperly, you're gonna basically
break someone's ribs.
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (45:40):
Liberal Catholicism, at least in terms of the
priesthood, is spirituallybarren.
In fact, dead.
It simply has not reproduced.
Why?
Because you can't just blame thebishops.
It isn't as if the bishops arethe radical conservatives.
Rather, they're ordaining menwho, in many cases, are more
conservative and moretraditional than they are.
So, what's driving this?
And more specifically, what'sdriving the failure of liberal
(46:01):
Catholicism to produce priests?
I would suggest two things.
Number one, if you acceptliberal Catholic theses like
Gary Willis's claim that thepriesthood is not of apostolic
or Christ's origins, but israther an innovation, an
addition to Christianity, whybecome a priest?
If you don't believe in thepriesthood, don't be a priest.
But even more broadly, we couldsay if your view of the
(46:22):
priesthood is essentially thathe's a community organizer and a
social justice activist, youdon't need to go to seminary for
years to do that.
You don't need to get ordained,you don't need to be accountable
to a bishop or a religioussuperior, and you certainly
don't need to be celibate.
Second, what I've been callingthis rightward shift has been
both in theology but also inpolitics.
So, what is that going to meanfor the future of the church in
(46:44):
America?
What are you going to hear fromthe USCCB and from the pulpit on
topics like abortion, onimmigration, on just war?
I'm struck by this question.
What will we have gained?
And what, if anything, will wehave lost?
I'm actually very interested inyour thoughts on that.
I'd love to hear how you foreseethat.
SPEAKER_07 (47:00):
I want to give you my thoughts, Joe.
My thoughts are that yes, thereare so you do have because we
hear read articles like this allthe time.
Like the guys, the men that arejoining seminary are pretty
conservative, they're not trads,right?
They're not trads, they'reconcerned, they're like JP2 kind
of guys.
SPEAKER_06 (47:20):
They're not even conservative in they're they're
orthodox, orthodox in their intheir faith, right?
SPEAKER_07 (47:27):
So they like they they believe the Catholic faith.
And but the problem is thatbecause you have no, we're
probably gonna blackpill withthis too.
Just give us a minute becauseyou have the power at the top,
only elevating the devious onesto the points of power, it it
(47:47):
becomes this like they onlyelevate the guys who are
nefarious, and that's kind ofthe place we're at right now.
So even if you have theseconservative priests, now the
other thing is the the theliberals who do join the
priesthood, like guys like JamesMartin, they join to commit
revolution, yeah.
They don't join because they onecould call it infiltration,
(48:10):
yeah.
Like they're joining toinfiltrate and and be elevated.
And look, you you you go back tothe to the to the um abuse
crisis, and not even not evenfor like the child abuse, like
the the you go back toMcCarrick.
McCarrick, what he was doing,bringing the seminarians out to
(48:30):
his beach house, feeling themout to see which ones he could
have his way with.
Now, the ones he could have hisway with, you're the one getting
fast tracked up.
So they basically have this clubwhere the homosexual men just
bring up the other homosexualmen, and those are the guys
getting into the position.
So you basically, every singleperson in power is either a
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homosexual or willing to turn ablind eye to it, and that's
where we're at right now.
So, yes, you do have a lot ofconservative priests, and you
you are so so that's what waskind of interesting about the
Raymond Arroyo conversation withPrad, where Arroyo was like, you
know, back in the 80s it wasmayhem down at the parish level,
(49:11):
but you had this, you know,conservative as Pope.
So you had you know these goodencyclicals coming out from the
Pope, but then at the parishlevel it was mayhem.
Now there's kind of an inversionof that where you could have a
very solid parish now, and youcould have some very good
priests now, but all the men atthe top are just wicked, they're
(49:31):
just wicked, and anytime and ifthey have a bishop who isn't
wicked and he's good, he's gonnaget Strickland.
Like Strickland is now a verb.
You're gonna get Strickland.
Stricklanded, Stricklanded.
Um so it's uh it it's not it'snot it's not looking good, you
(49:55):
know.
And um, I saw there was a videoof uh um what uh what's the
what's the a bishop in SanFrancisco, uh Cordelione
participated in uh a conferenceon marriage with an Orthodox uh
priest, and there's aconversation with between them.
(50:18):
There's a guy that Lila Rose hadon his channel.
I'm just amazed Anthony knewwhat a verb was.
SPEAKER_06 (50:23):
I love how you misspelled new there, Brian.
SPEAKER_07 (50:26):
Yeah, go ahead, make fun of me.
Strickland or Pelled.
Yeah, uh Strickland got offeasy.
He's lucky he didn't have anysurgeries coming up.
Oh, I mean, that's not evensomething to laugh about, but
that's that's what happened toPell.
SPEAKER_06 (50:41):
Like Pell.
If they can murder JP1, they canmurder Pell.
SPEAKER_07 (50:48):
Pell wrote that Damos memo, the Demos memo he
sent out.
Uh, then he got a lot of infoabout what was going on with the
Vatican Bank.
He needed he was not someonethey wanted to contend with at
the next conclave.
I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_06 (51:06):
Do you uh I mean I'm not even gonna say like I
believe this, but uh do youthink maybe Burke's little plea
was an attempt to make sure hedoesn't get belled?
No, I think Burke because he wasDemos too.
SPEAKER_07 (51:23):
I know, but I think Burke I think Burke genuinely is
is coming up on the end of hislife and doesn't want to he
doesn't want to go down ascausing schism in the church,
like especially if if he helpedengineer Leo's ascendancy.
I I just don't think he I thinkI I think he doesn't I think he
(51:46):
wants to get face his makersaying I didn't cause any schism
in your like he takes schismvery seriously.
Well that's why he's harsh onthe SSPX.
Yeah, takes schism veryseriously.
I don't think it's cowardice, II think it's confusing, is what
I think.
And he's a he's a he's apost-consiliar bishop.
(52:09):
I I just these guys these guyscame up after the council and
they they they they love VaticanII, man.
All of them.
Well, all of them not Schneider,but he's not Schneider's the
only one, but Sarah does.
Sarah's a Sarah's uh hermenuticof continuity Benedict guy,
(52:29):
yeah.
Like this, yeah, this that too.
The oh um the uh conservativeshave this temperament, that's
why they always lose.
SPEAKER_06 (52:40):
Well, it's because for the most part,
conservatives, even themodernist type in the hierarchy,
are actually like decent men whotry to be holy, yeah.
So they're they're limited bythat, they have morals.
The the liberal leftists don't,you know, the ends justify the
means to them, so they have anupper hand in almost every
single scenario.
SPEAKER_07 (53:01):
I do think look, so now that Strickland got
Stricklanded, and uh and and umSchneider, like I think
Schneider is like, I don't care,I don't care.
Let them excommunicate me atthis point.
SPEAKER_06 (53:16):
Like, yeah, to him, it's like, what are you gonna
do?
Put me in a gulag.
SPEAKER_07 (53:19):
Yeah, I think that I think he's just like at a point
where he's like, I'm going tospeak the truth.
And Strickland, same thing.
He's like, So, what can they doto me?
What can they do to me?
They took my diocese away atthis point.
SPEAKER_06 (53:32):
And he's just a little too cozy with some weird
parts of the church, you know,charismatics and such.
SPEAKER_07 (53:42):
I think he's just I think he's just tries to love
those in his care.
And I think a lot of people alot of those people love him.
And I I I think that he justwants to love those in his care
and he wants to preach thetruth.
And it's just a it's just areally confusing time, man.
And it's like anytime anybodybrings this stuff up and goes,
(54:03):
look at who Leo's, look at whoLeo's promoting, you're a
schismatic, you're a set of acontest.
It's like, I don't know what totell you guys, man.
Like, I'm not blind, I seewhat's happening, and this is
this is happening.
And to pretend otherwise isalmost like complicit complicity
in it at this point.
I don't know.
Um I don't know.
(54:25):
It's it's scary stuff what we'retalking about.
We're talking about a completeand total takeover of the
Catholic Church by by wickedmen.
Like that's what we're talking.
I mean, it's been going on sincethe council, it has been going
on.
Like the council was theoriginal revolution, but we're
at a point now where it's justit's just been completely taken
(54:47):
over, and there's it's going toseem like all hope is lost.
Hey Joe.
Joe Diodotti.
OG.
SPEAKER_06 (54:59):
It has been a while since I've seen him in here.
Yeah, in a live chat.
SPEAKER_07 (55:05):
So, all right, yeah.
I mean, look, it's kind of hardto not.
SPEAKER_06 (55:10):
We did turn we did turn the the Heshmire thing into
a black bell.
SPEAKER_07 (55:14):
Yeah, I'm look, I don't I it's one of those
nights.
I'm just black belling.
I don't know.
It's a freaking Elon Musk, hisalgorithm.
I don't know what he did to it,but all I see is man, they are
really trying to start a racewar in this country.
SPEAKER_06 (55:32):
That's all I'm gonna say.
All I'm saying is about 10 days,you better be ready to blow the
bridges to Long Island.
SPEAKER_07 (55:39):
All I see are black people doing wild stuff, man.
We are talking a level offatigue.
SPEAKER_06 (55:47):
Well, for the record, he's talking about his
Twitter algorithm.
SPEAKER_07 (55:51):
Yes, like, but I don't I if it's in mine, it's in
everybody's.
I don't care.
Like the level of fatigue ishitting an all-time high, man.
Even like you you watched thecrowder conversation at the uh
at the barber shop.
SPEAKER_06 (56:05):
Yeah, it's just I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_07 (56:09):
It's it's just it's just they are trying to amp up
some major hostilities insideour country, like they want you
to hate your neighbor, they wantyou to hate, and the thing is, I
am I'm actually on the streetsand I have very good
interactions with black people,like I really do.
I have very good interactionswith black people.
If you all want to hear a storyfrom Charlotte, you'll have to
(56:36):
come over to locals because Ican't have the story on here.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, I wonder how many of theearly Roman mod martyrs were
black pillars.
Yeah, uh I yeah, you know what?
I don't I'm not really it's notthat I'm black pilling in the
sense that like I I know this isall necessary.
I'm an accelerationist, like Iwant this to happen.
(56:56):
I really do.
I I like this has to happen.
So as much as I'm just liketrying to assess the situation,
and but the reality is thisthing needs to come down.
Like this thing, this thingneeds to come down.
SPEAKER_06 (57:10):
What you're saying is in the short term, you don't
see any uh any light at the endof the tunnel coming up quick.
SPEAKER_07 (57:17):
No, I'm a long-term optimist, a short-term
pessimist, I guess.
SPEAKER_06 (57:20):
Long-term optimist, you think the world is ending.
That's a good thing, isn't it?
SPEAKER_07 (57:25):
I'm just saying there's no doesn't Christ come
at the end.
SPEAKER_06 (57:31):
I mean, I don't know if I would call that like I
don't know.
Um I'm seeing so many Sicilianvideos too.
Yeah, same thing.
SPEAKER_07 (57:45):
So the the yeah, I don't I look.
Um I honestly no, yeah.
You kind of you want yourfamily, it's man.
I think the living will envy thedead.
That's how bad it's gonna get.
Like in some places, noteverywhere.
I think in some places it'sgoing to be so bad that the
living will envy the dead.
I think Europe, Europe, it'sgoing to be so bad that the
(58:09):
former cr formerly Christiannations in Europe are going to
envy the dead because they aregoing to be chastised by Islam
in a way it's going to bebiblical.
It's going to be the Assyrianscoming in.
It's going to it's going to bebiblical.
It's going to be the Romansdestroying the temple type
stuff.
(58:32):
Yep.
That's just that's just how Isee it.
I I don't I I'm they're they'reum essaying their children and
letting them go, let them getletting them get away with it.
Like, how do you how does thatarresting the people who protest
who protest against it?
(58:54):
It's uh it's interesting becauselike when Tim Pool talked about
this today, but when we saw theBLM riots, we were like, people,
these people are animals, howcould you destroy your own city?
But when I watched the riots inDublin, I was like, good.
Like they they let this animaldo that to a girl and get away
with it, like your city shouldshould burn down.
The people in control need toneed to so it really is just
(59:20):
where your line is, where whereyou've where you're like, I've
had enough.
So um, yeah, I I mean don'twatch the Scorsese movie on it.
SPEAKER_06 (59:34):
I don't know if Anthony's read about them, but I
know you watched silence.
SPEAKER_07 (59:37):
Well, the Scorsese movie, it's like the first 90 is
the greatest Catholic film ofall time, and the last 10 is the
worst movie ever made.
So um, all right, we we're at anhour.
We're gonna head over to localsand we'll uh I don't know.
We got we got that Fuentes clipwhere he's talking about the
SSPX.
I know it's old news, but it'dbe interesting to break that
down.
SPEAKER_06 (59:57):
Fuentes and the SSPX, two subjects I Absolutely
love to talk about.
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Either way.
Alright, so we're gonna go tolocals.
We're only gonna do a half hourthere, and then I'm jump.
I'm gonna be on with my.
We can rip on Lila.
Yes, actually, that's what we'redoing.
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Lila Rose over on Locals.
Because that woman.
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I um I have a video I'm gonna take us out with uh
that um that uh the former videditor that he no longer wants
to be referred to by that nameon our show.
Yeah, never mind.
You guys won't understand if youdon't know who I'm talking
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That's all we're gonna I'm gonnaI got I got three clips from the
Lila Rose podcast that I want toplay.
Lila Rose had uh basically anecromancer on her show.
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Let me throw the link to localsin here real quick while the
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to my attention that certaindeceptive productions are being
circulated which attribute tome.
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(01:40):
about that because I never heardof Diwali before.
SPEAKER_06 (01:46):
I think I heard it a year or two ago.
SPEAKER_07 (01:49):
But it just seems like such a strange thing.
Where like in the past fewyears, we got um what the heck
is his name that ran forpresident?
Um what the heck is his name?
Uh Vivek Vivek, Vivek Robaswamy.
Then we got um JD Vance's wife,uh Usha.
(02:10):
Usha.
And like all of a sudden,Indians are like everywhere.
It's like oh don't oh don'tforget uh cash cash patel.
It's like they have astroturfedthe the Indians everywhere
thing.
SPEAKER_06 (02:24):
That's what Indians do.
You get one of them in somewhereand they bring everyone over.
SPEAKER_07 (02:29):
It's so nuts.
Did you see the um celebrationsin in London for Diwali?
Yeah, it's insane because I'venever seen a Christian
celebration like that in London.
No, not in our lifetimes.
And it's I mean, I just I don'tknow, man.
All of this stuff, it just feelslike everything is so shaky,
(02:51):
like all of society is on theverge of cracking everywhere,
like all over.
Oh, it just feels likeeverywhere, everything is so
fragile right now.
And the the whole Diwali thingyesterday was just so bizarre,
man.
It's like they were just tryingto shove it down on throw Trump
at the White House doing thedoing the celebration there, and
(03:13):
with this with the Vatican doingit, it just I don't know, man.
I don't know what to make of allof it.
And then and then you have um uha Muslim kid stabbing a kid at a
Catholic school in England, youhave riots going on in Dublin
(03:33):
right now because they let amigrant basically get away with
um a 10-year-old girl.
It feels like everywhere theworld is just so turbulent right
now.
Um you watch the videos down onCanal Street by me.
Now, Canal Street was alwayslike they always sold design,
(03:54):
like fake designer knockoff bagsand stuff.
Um, and it used to be theChinese down there, but what has
happened on Canal Street isinsane.
Like it's just like an open-airdrug market down there now,
counterfeit everything, and it'sjust run by African migrants.
It's nuts.
Um, wow, this is all horrible.
I think we need an encyclical onclimate shit.
(04:14):
Yeah, no, no, they're gonna giveus an encyclical on open borders
on how how we should we shouldallow this to continue.
I don't understand what likewhere is any I don't know.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_06 (04:29):
They just don't live in the real world, and that's
what it comes down to.
They're either completelyignorant because they don't live
in the real world, and those arethe good faith ones, or they're
just evil men.
SPEAKER_07 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's malice.
I think it's malice.
I can't, I at this point, Imean, the things that we're
seeing is just like even whenyou even if when you see the
amount of tension it's causingin all the countries that are
allowing the migration to come,like you're you're watching
(05:01):
people's lives like they're thewhole all of our countries are
just being completely ununnerved right now, and instead
of any kind of empathy towardsthe people who are having their
countries ripped apart, it'sjust shut up and be kind, shut
up and be kind.
Do you have to do you have to dothis?
You have and it's just I don'tknow, man.
SPEAKER_06 (05:21):
I don't know where it all goes, but I think in like
um I think Spain, like theaverage person lives on like ten
thousand dollars a year, right?
Equivalent to you know to ourcurrency, and yet so so in
America, like that would be likevery, very poor.
And yet they want Spain to takein hundreds and hundreds of
(05:43):
thousands of migrants.
It's how is that helping thepoor?
It's it's creating the poor, itjust creating the poor, exactly.
SPEAKER_07 (05:53):
I don't know, man.
I don't know what the hell isgoing on here.
I'm I'm like, I have a hard timekeeping up with everything
lately.
Like the last week, I've had areally hard time keeping up with
everything, but the the DiWalistuff yesterday just kind of
blew my mind.
I was like, they're it's justlike out of nowhere, this is
everywhere, and they're justtrying to force it down our
throats.
(06:13):
This is like worse than theKwanzaa thing, like where they
were trying to make us acceptKwanzaa as a real thing.
Like, I don't know, I don't Idon't get how this helps
anything.
I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_06 (06:26):
Kwanzaa, Juneteenth, Dwali.
Everything that they can do,they'll do everything possible
to to suppress, like you know,the holidays of of Christendom
of America.
SPEAKER_07 (06:41):
Yeah, like um like any kind of Christianity that
this country had roots in, likethey're trying to, it's so nuts.
I mean, in the past past fiveyears, it's gotten completely
out of hand.
Um, I guess we'll we'll jumpright into Burke.
The the Burke situation was justweird to me.
Um only because I had never seenan AI Burke video.
SPEAKER_06 (07:03):
I had never seen one either.
SPEAKER_07 (07:05):
I I just and so it was it was kind of it was the
whole thing just seemed kind ofstrange.
Where I don't know, let's walklet's watch the Burke video,
we'll go through it and andwe'll we'll kind of criticize
it.
Not criticize, but just like Idon't know.
I don't I it just seemed kind ofstrange to me.
SPEAKER_06 (07:23):
Okay, let me pull it up here.
SPEAKER_02 (07:36):
Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, concerning
false videos and imagescirculating online, it has come
to my attention that certaindeceptive productions are being
circulated which attribute to mewords of opposition to his
holiness Pope Leo XIV.
(07:58):
These reports claim that I havedelivered a so-called rebuke of
the Holy Father regarding histeaching and governance of the
Church.
I state with all clarity thatsuch assertions are entirely
false.
I have made no such statements,nor have I given any address or
(08:22):
interview even remotelyresembling what is being
described.
These videos are fabrications,works of deceit produced through
technological manipulation of myimage to convey messages that I
have never delivered.
The deliberate use of falsehoodto sow division within the
(08:47):
church is gravely sinful.
Our Lord Himself teaches us thatthe devil was a murderer from
the beginning and has nothing todo with the truth, because there
is no truth in him.
When he lies, he speaksaccording to his own nature, for
he is a liar and the father oflies.
SPEAKER_07 (09:11):
I mean, we don't have to watch the whole three
and a half minutes, but we'llpause it there just because I
want to I want to discuss thatso far.
So I had originally thought hesaid there were AI, like made it
look like him doing it, butthere are these like AI slop
videos that are on YouTube thatare just they're so ridiculously
obvious that they're AI that Idon't even think, yeah, like
(09:34):
this is these are so ridiculous.
SPEAKER_06 (09:37):
Yeah, so for anyone who it's been over the last one,
two, maybe three months, all ofa sudden there are multiple just
complete AI channels popping upin every sort of category you
can think of.
Like it, like this one at thebottom is weird.
If you go to this this channel,it's supposed to be about MMA
(09:58):
fighting.
Yet, you know, whatever whateverresearch they're doing told them
that day that a of an a videoabout Burke talking about Leo
would get views, so they poppedout an AI video about that.
Like they're it is weird that AIvideos are popping up for every
(10:18):
every YouTuber out there almost.
SPEAKER_07 (10:20):
I mean, not smaller ones like us, but but the
implication that he's making isthat it's Catholics doing this,
and it's not.
No, it's not, it's these aren'tCatholics, people that are mad
at me over my tweet.
Yeah, it exactly.
(10:40):
That's that's what this is.
This is it's so Ed Penton wrotean article that kind of implied
that it was maybe Chris Jacksonand Stephen Cox behind it, and
it's like no, this isridiculous.
Like, that's not at all thesituation, and then and then
Michael Matt came out, and he'slike, This is outlandish, and
anybody doing this should ceaselike cease and it's like
(11:03):
nobody's doing this.
What are you talking?
It was just it's the same peoplethat are making all the other AI
videos of everyone, ofeverything.
It's it's an AI creating the AIvideos, I think.
SPEAKER_06 (11:16):
Probably it could be, yeah.
SPEAKER_07 (11:18):
It's it's there's not it's not Catholics trying to
sow dissension in the church atall.
SPEAKER_06 (11:25):
So it was just it's a bunch of overseas scammers
just trying to get ad revenue.
SPEAKER_07 (11:29):
That's all it is.
So when he put that video out, Iwas just like, what the heck
even is this?
Like, what I think it was thisweird um opportunity for him to
just profess his undying loyaltyto Leo.
SPEAKER_06 (11:43):
I don't know if he like I I mean he's a boomer, you
know.
He doesn't know who's making thehe probably does think what he
was saying and just doesn'trealize it.
SPEAKER_07 (11:59):
Yeah, I mean, you know what it you know what it
was, it's like the guys likeBurke and um Sarah even or
Sarah, um, under Francis, likewhen when the doc when the
doctrine got a little, you know,when when like Amoris Otitia
came out and stuff, and we ohwe're gonna present the dubia,
(12:19):
and you know, this is confusing,and then when the married
priesting came up, Sarah wrotethat book.
But Sarah might make like acomment here and there about you
know how Islam is gonna destroyEurope, but there's no there's
no one like in the hierarchythat's concerned with the things
we're concerned about.
SPEAKER_06 (12:40):
No, if anything, uh they think it's just farmers
versus goat herders.
SPEAKER_07 (12:45):
Uh maybe Schneider.
Schneider is Schneider, yeah.
Schneider seems to be likeSchneider, Schneider and um and
Strickland.
SPEAKER_06 (12:53):
I I think um isn't there one cardinal, younger
cardinal from it's either Norwayor Sweden.
I think his last name startswith a V.
I think he's maybe mentionedimmigration a few times because
his country is you know uh underattack through it, but yeah, it
(13:17):
it's almost there's a very fewof them.
There's just so few.
SPEAKER_07 (13:20):
And it's not but I I think even Strickland needs to
talk about the immigration issuemore, and it's not this isn't a
um a political issue at thispoint.
This isn't like a um it's notlike conservative versus liberal
and or Republican versusDemocrat at this point.
Like we are we're really gettinginto some dangerous stuff here
where our countries, and it'snot just America, it's America
(13:43):
might withstand it better thanEurope, but Europe seems like
it's on the precipice right now,like about to completely just
fall off a cliff everywhere.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what the I don'tknow what happens, and then so
you could finish playing it outbecause he goes on to just it's
it's it's almost like he's umman, I don't I don't know, I
(14:07):
don't know what happens underLeo.
Well I don't know.
Things are kind of gettingshaken.
SPEAKER_06 (14:12):
Eric Varden, yeah, that's what I was talking about.
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
These falsified productions bear the
unmistakable mark of the evilone.
Whoever seeks to confuse the Didhe just call the subcontinent
the evil one?
The faithful, and to set brotheragainst brother within the body
of Christ.
(14:38):
I therefore declare publicly andunequivocally my obedience,
filial love, and unwaveringrespect for the Supreme Pontiff,
Pope Leo XIV, the vicar ofChrist on earth.
The unity of the church aroundthe successor of Saint Peter is
(14:59):
willed by our Lord Himself andis essential to the integrity of
our Catholic faith.
I urge all the faithful to giveattentive heed to the authentic
teaching of the Holy Father andnot to the voices of division
which distort the truth forworldly purposes and sow the
(15:22):
seeds of scandal among souls.
Let us respond to this situationnot with anger or suspicion, but
with faith and prayer.
The Christian's first recoursein every trial is always to the
(15:42):
heart of Jesus, who conquersfalsehood by the power of his
truth and love.
I ask you therefore to prayearnestly for those who create
and spread such deceptions, thattouched by divine grace, they
may turn from darkness to thelight of truth, from the bondage
(16:05):
of lies to the freedom ofconversion, and be reconciled to
God, who is rich in mercy andabounding and steadfast love.
SPEAKER_06 (16:19):
Yeah, I don't know why he got so worked up over
some Indian AI slop.
SPEAKER_07 (16:24):
Indian AI slop and um I don't know, man.
I I don't know because thethings were the things we're
seeing under Leo are not helpfulafter all.
Like um the okay, so even theum, so they got an extension in
(16:45):
Cleveland for the TLM, for theirTLM, right?
But they request they theyrequested a five-year extension.
So the the bishop requested anadditional five years.
The Holy See granted two yearswith the following instruction.
We ask that you continueresolutely to lead the faithful
who are attached to the uhanterior ritual form towards
full appreciation and acceptanceof the liturgical books renewed
(17:08):
by the decree of the secondVatican Council and promulgated
by Pope St.
Paul VI, John Paul II.
Furthermore, they recommend thatone of the masses usually
celebrated according to the 1962Missal be celebrated in Latin
using the current Missal.
So they asked for five years,they gave them two, they said,
We'll give you two, and we wantyou to start orienting your
(17:30):
parishioners towards the newmissile, and we'll give you your
Latin novus order.
SPEAKER_06 (17:35):
Now, to be fair, I I do think it's either traditionus
custodus itself or the um thethe dubia rescript that states
that two-year dispensations canbe given.
SPEAKER_07 (17:48):
Oh, so they they won't, they're not allowed.
So I the they were there was atesting ground there, I think.
SPEAKER_06 (17:53):
I I think so, and I think it shows that yeah, that
the best we're gonna get is uhat least two years stick to
stick to Francis's documents.
SPEAKER_07 (18:07):
That's that's depressing, man.
Uh so well, all right.
So what I'm thinking is thebishops who keep asking for
their two years, they'll get it.
SPEAKER_06 (18:15):
But at least okay, well then then what about
Knoxville?
Because right, because Knoxvilleclaimed that they asked for an
extension, and the the DDW toldthem no, you're shutting it
down.
So either the Vatican is pickingand choosing which ones, and if
they're doing so, I I you knowwhat are the reasons for that,
(18:39):
or Knoxville's lying.
SPEAKER_07 (18:42):
Knoxville's bishop didn't ask for an extension.
I don't think they asked for anextension.
I think maybe, maybe, yeah,maybe not.
I don't know.
I think their extension was upand they didn't ask for a
renewal.
SPEAKER_06 (18:52):
It very well could be.
SPEAKER_07 (18:55):
I don't know.
So I'm I'm seeing it as like thethe bishops who like really like
are in favor of the TLM, likethey'll keep giving them their
extensions, but as those guysage out, they're gonna replace
them with their own guys, andyou're gonna eventually get all
these new guys that just getelevated that have been elevated
for the past 10 years goingforward, and you're just it's
gonna they're going to wipe itout as best they can on the
(19:16):
diocesan level.
SPEAKER_06 (19:19):
Yeah, I think I think that's pretty clearly the
Vatican's goal.
SPEAKER_07 (19:22):
Yeah, I have no like hope for some restoration of the
diocesan TLM.
SPEAKER_06 (19:27):
I think Leo's Vatican is gonna be not as um
confrontational about it, youknow.
So it'll drag it out a littlebit longer, but it does seem
like that is still the goal ofthe Vatican, yeah.
SPEAKER_07 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah.
Leo's just he's he's gonna likeput put like uh an a nice
smoothness to the uh approach,but it's the same approach.
I mean, that's what it seemslike to me.
Yeah, I don't see how to seethings differently.
Um you have uh uh it very few.
I mean, uh Schneider Schneidercame out with an interview.
(20:07):
Um, the church continue cannotcontinue into further confusion.
Um uh let's see.
Let me let's skip that.
Okay, so uh Schneider said wecannot continue as a church to
go further into confusion, hewarned.
Petitioning Pope Leo to performa clarifying action to
strengthen the entire church andfaith.
(20:29):
Um, I don't see this happening,guys.
And um let's are there any goodquestions in this?
Um sorry, I should have probablyread through this beforehand.
I just saw you put an interviewout.
Um would you say uh what do yousay are the most pressing needs
in the church today?
(20:50):
I would say the most pressingneed is that the Pope should
strengthen the entire church infaith, which is his first task,
one of the main tasks of a pope,which God himself gave to Peter
and his successors.
It is evident to all that thelife of the church is immersed
in an unprecedented confusion offaith regarding faith, morals,
and liturgy.
The church is really immersed ina kind of dust or mist of
confusion.
See, I don't agree with that.
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I think that like the faithfulknow the faith.
I think what's in confusion isthis hierarchy.
SPEAKER_06 (21:18):
I mean, the faithful clearly clearly doesn't know the
faith, though.
When you have 90% of themsupporting contraception.
Well, that yeah, I don't evenconsider those faithful.
Well, I mean, you can't justwrite off 90% of the church,
yeah.
Like like that, that is thehierarchy's job, right?
To save their souls.
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So I think now you're sayingthat is what the hierarchy needs
to do is save the souls of the90% of confirmed Catholics who
who don't follow the faith atall.
Yeah, but I I do understand whatyou mean, yes.
For those of us who try to livefaithfully, yeah, like we we
know what the church teaches.
SPEAKER_07 (21:57):
It's not like the the it's not so much it's not so
much a confusion about the faithas it is a confusion of who the
hell are these men that havetaken over the church?
Yeah, like what is going on?
Like we have had a completetakeover of the church, but you
look, we always had bad actorsin the church.
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You always had that throughoutthe entire history of the
church, but what has happenednow is unprecedented.
Well, I mean, if 80% of thehierarchy was Aryan, like yeah,
I guess it's just because of thethe level of the top that we're
talking about, but it was Imean, it it is just so freaking
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confusing right now, man.
Yeah, and and it's not so muchthat you know, yeah, that I
guess that I guess I guessSchneider's right, you know.
Um but that everybody's makingthis about it's just liturgy,
it's not just liturgy, man.
I really think the ecumenismthing is so bad right now, so
bad right now.
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Like ecumenism and the openborder stuff, all of it is just
it is going to be the thing thatswallows up the church
completely.
And I'm I'm just going back andthinking about Christ's words,
like when he outlike, sorry,guys, it's gonna be one of those
shows that I haven't slept much,but have um when I when when the
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son of man returns, will he findany faith left on earth?
Because it seems like what we'regoing through is the great
apostasy right now.
It's so bad, and then all thestuff happening in the world on
top of that, watching nationsfeel like they're crumbling
around us.
I don't know.
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Um so all right, so forSchneider wants fiducia
supplicans.
Um yeah, he's gonna he's gonnago back to those main things.
I I don't I haven't really heardany of the hierarchy talk about
immigration though, like any anyof them.
SPEAKER_06 (24:03):
Because it's a I mean they really shouldn't.
Right?
Like they shouldn't interferewith cutting policies.
Well, it's it's a it's a it's aprudential thing of you know of
the the temporal sword, right?
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They they can lay out theprinciples and the morals and
things like that.
SPEAKER_07 (24:30):
I don't know, Rob.
I think I think Leo coming outand putting that religious
freedom statement out the otherday again is well that's that's
not a that's not a prudentialstatement about you know the
temporal sphere.
No, well, what I'm saying iswhile all of this immigration is
going on, he puts out astatement on religious freedom.
Like like the Pope should bewarning our leaders to remember
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Christ as king, of course.
But do not like this is what thePope and the Bishop should be
exhort should should beexhorting world leaders to do.
You don't have to interfere inthe temporal issues of who they
allow in the country, but youshould be telling them keep your
countries Christian, remember tokeep Christ as king, because
allowing these foreign people tocome in our nations and I I
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don't I don't know what they'rethinking.
It's it's a way bigger deal thanthe liturgy.
SPEAKER_06 (25:24):
They don't care, they don't believe Christ is
king, they don't care aboutChristian nations, they don't
they don't believe any of that,you know.
It's this is this is like I'mnot talking about anyone
specifically, I'm not making anydeclarations or accusations
against anyone specifically.
I'm talking about the hierarchyin general, and anyone who who
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sits there and doesn't believethat 80% of the hierarchy
doesn't actually believe in theCatholic faith, you're
delusional.
SPEAKER_07 (25:54):
It's just that when like when I saw the thing in um
in London, it to me it was justa pagan celebration happening in
London all over the place.
And former formerly Christiannations celeb like all this talk
of like Christian nationalismgoing on and stuff, it's it's an
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important conversation, evenlike the idea that the nations
have crisis came.
This is the problem with thedeclarations on religious
freedom.
It's that like religious freedomshould be tolerated in a country
where you have uh, you know,it's not an explicitly Christian
country, you can tolerate otherreligions, but the way things
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are happening right now, it'sbeing foisted upon us as if all
of these things are equal.
And as that's going on in ourcountries, the Vatican is going
about this crazy ecumenicalproject trying to normalize all
of it.
And then Leo last week had thatstatement that he was talking
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about how how when immigrantscome in, they don't need to
integrate, they don't need toassimilate, they can keep their
culture when they come in.
They don't need if they'recoming into Italy, they don't
need to become Italian.
SPEAKER_06 (27:12):
Yeah, it's funny how backwards he he has it.
Like I agree a person, like yes,people should keep their
cultures in their nations.
That's why immigration is bad.
You know what I mean?
Like it's the out like why canthe immigrant keep their
culture, language, a nation, butyet we must give up ours to make
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it a melting pot.
SPEAKER_07 (27:37):
Um, Kevin reached out to me about this.
Um, um, well, I I told Kevin Ihave to think about like how how
we would do that.
SPEAKER_06 (27:46):
Because I the thing is I would say if it's about
some aspect of learning aboutthe faith, sure.
SPEAKER_07 (27:53):
Yeah, like it's not gonna be a discussion on set of
a contest.
On set of acontism, yeah.
No, I'm not I don't want to dothat.
The thing is, look, it this thesettes are have been like
harassing me lately becausebecause I went off on the on uh
uh uh the rundown the othernight.
But the thing is, even even ifthey're right, it still matters
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what is happening.
Like the things we're talkingabout still matter to them just
as much as they matter to us,because the even if Leo is not a
valid pope, whether he is orisn't, it's irrelevant because
the world thinks the man sittingthere is the pope.
So it's like what whether he'swhether you guys are right or
not is irrelevant in the eyes ofthe world.
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The world sees him as the bishopof Rome, and what the bishop of
Rome does is important.
Um, I see if somebody harassedharasses you, that doesn't
count.
It's just the the whole thewhole thing, it just matters to
you guys.
It's the reason you guys care somuch that trad still say Leo is
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a valid pope, just as much as weare concerned with what this man
is doing in that seat, itmatters to all of us because the
the the hierarchy that is there,whether whether it's valid or
not, is presenting itself as theCatholic Church.
And when when the CatholicChurch changes a teaching, or if
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it softens its approach on ateaching, or if it starts
exhorting the world to open itsborders, like these things
matter whether he's valid ornot.
So to me, it's an irrelevantquestion because it's not
something I'm ever gonna be ableto prove.
It's a good theory.
I don't know, it's just uh wehave Maudsley on Saturday.
SPEAKER_06 (29:40):
Yeah, it won't be a live YouTube show on Saturday,
it will be live on locals.
So everyone make sure you goover to our our locals and join
locals.
Um, but we will put then anysafe clips up on YouTube.
SPEAKER_07 (29:52):
The um, because all of this does have to do with
what we're gonna talk toMaudsley about.
It just does all of it, it's allConnected because what is
happening right now, even withTrump coming in and Palantir
Palantir, and all of likethey're setting up a system
right now, man.
All of this, they're causingchaos, and there's gonna be some
(30:14):
kind of event, and it's like weare leading and marching our way
towards something right now.
And I mean, I can just feel itin my freaking bones that
something scary is coming.
It's it's just the the thingsare so fractured uh amongst all
of us, amongst Catholics,amongst just your just just your
(30:38):
tip like your everyday Americanwho who's arguing with each
other constantly.
All of it is getting it'sgetting pretty pretty crazy out
there, man.
Like I I had to actually turnsocial media off for a couple of
days because it was like I'vebeen barely popping in.
Just it is just it was likeoverwhelming to me trying to pay
attention to work and check thatstuff out.
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And I missed a lot.
I don't know.
Yeah, trading was gettingboring.
Yeah, it will be available onlocals for sure.
Um, yeah, the uh Mausleyinterview will definitely be
available the full thing onlocals right away.
SPEAKER_06 (31:15):
The audio, the full audio will make it out
eventually, not on Saturday,probably Monday, Tuesday.
But we just don't we can't trustYouTube with all of it.
SPEAKER_07 (31:25):
I don't I just don't know where the conversation is
going to go.
And um, I don't want to be likeI don't want to not say
something because we're onYouTube.
I'd rather just be able to havethe conversation we're gonna
have and then see what canwhatever we can put on YouTube,
we will.
And the full thing will be up onlocal.
So if you're a locals member,you'll see the full interview.
We'll put it on locals liveSaturday.
(31:46):
So if you guys want to watch it,it's it's 9 a.m.
Eastern on Saturday.
We're gonna have uh FatherMaudsley on.
But yeah, all of this just Idon't know, because I mean I
I've never seen anadministration like the Trump
administration when it comes toIsrael.
Like it just seems like everyother day there's another member
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of the cabinet going and kissingthat wall.
SPEAKER_06 (32:11):
I I think I think previous administrations were,
but not recently.
Like I think, I think probably Idon't know.
SPEAKER_07 (32:26):
Trump was supposed to come in, he was supposed to
end the war in Ukraine rightaway.
Yeah, and it feels like all wehear about is another member of
a cabinet member going toIsrael, Israel's buying TikTok,
israel Israel is all we hearabout.
Like, I don't you you get to apoint where you don't want to
freaking talk about Israelanymore, but it's everywhere,
(32:46):
all you see, and I don't know ifit's my algorithm or what, but
it's just everywhere.
SPEAKER_06 (32:52):
And I mean that that's another thing, like it's
hard to know how much of theissues we see and and things
really are real.
I mean, now obviouslyimmigration is because we feel
that like in our daily lives,not just online, like we see the
prices of things, we see thecost of housing and and things
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like that.
Um, but you know, like like uhas far as the influence of
Israel, you you know, you don'tnecessarily see or feel that in
your daily life outside of theinternet, so it's hard to say
what what the algorithm ispushing and what's not, and the
algorithm is weird now, though.
SPEAKER_07 (33:31):
Like, I I don't see the same people, like you had
that viral tweet.
If you didn't text that to me,I'd have never seen it.
SPEAKER_06 (33:37):
And then I I've had a few people say that people who
I interact with on Twitterdaily.
SPEAKER_07 (33:41):
I did not retweeted it, and people were like, bro,
Rob has a viral tweet, and itdoesn't come across my feet.
Like, what's happening in thealgorithm is very strange right
now.
And I'm not seeing people Ialways see.
I actually changed it over tothe um people I follow
specifically because I was thefor you tab is just the things
that they're showing now, man.
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I don't I don't know.
It's it's they are feeding usrage bait over and over, and it
got it got me that's why mytweet blew up right because it
was a rage tweet, right?
So it went it went haywire.
That and that's all we'regetting now are the tweets that
(34:22):
piss people up.
I'm all I see are videos ofblack people doing crazy stuff.
It's like they're trying to makeme hate, hate, they're trying to
make me racist and anti-Semitic,and they're trying to make me
see everything with like it'sjust all they're trying to do is
enrage all of us.
(34:43):
Um well, bring your tweet upbecause it uh really did look
like an image it looked like thelake of fire, it looked like an
image of hell.
SPEAKER_06 (34:56):
So I'll just I'll bring up the video itself.
Bobby said they're trying tomake you racist.
Taffy's gonna have fun with ohvideos that I cannot share.
SPEAKER_07 (35:12):
Okay, so he is somebody who's prone to it
already to be getting fed thestuff I'm getting fed is not
good.
I'm just telling you.
SPEAKER_06 (35:20):
Um, so it said Hinduism is the most aesthetic
religion, period.
Does that not look like the lakeof fire?
I mean, it it just and that'swhat I tweeted.
I said it literally looks likehell on earth.
(35:43):
What what do you add on that?
Uh let me go hold on.
Yeah, bring your tweet up.
I want to see yours.
4.5 million views.
SPEAKER_07 (35:52):
Are you gonna beat me?
My record is five million.
That thing's gonna pass by.
SPEAKER_06 (35:56):
Well, and so like I I was watching it catch up to
Kale's ball cap tweet.
They're like, Kale's ball captweet only got like 2,000 likes
with 3.8 million views.
I'm at 174,000 likes.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_07 (36:13):
It just it just the the thing is Twitter is run by
Indian bot farms, like there'sso many Indian bots on Twitter,
and that tweet got to the Indianbot, and they were enraged by
it.
SPEAKER_06 (36:27):
The number of replies from accounts that look
like they're white guys namedJohn Smith at reply in Hindi is
incredible.
SPEAKER_07 (36:36):
It's so funny because that no, like every all
right.
So, first off, Rob's beengetting a ton of death threats,
right?
Yep, but every every singleAmerican that saw that said
this.
Wait, said I don't know if itlooks like somebody said, Can
you imagine the smell?
Like, that's all everybody canyou imagine the smell, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (36:55):
Like, oh man, Jim says Ant's gonna report the
tweet so it doesn't be this.
I'm famous in India.
I'm also uh it's probably notsafe for me to travel there.
SPEAKER_07 (37:10):
It's um did you see who uh wouldn't curse Vishnu
online this week?
Yeah, modern Boethius, right?
Look, the thing is, we theeverybody gets on him, but you
guys have to contend withsomething.
He's just repeating stuff theVatican releases, man.
And look, this is kind of thestuff that that frustrates me
(37:33):
with like the Pope splainers whowho aren't like Boe, like like
modern Boetheists and PopeRespecter, those guys are towing
the Vatican line, they're kindof basic.
Whereas there were a lot of guyswho were Pope's planers but were
like, no, no, no, we can't, youknow, like they're not actually
for ecumenism, but they defendthe Pope because they come into
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the Catholic faith and theCatholic Church, and that it's
like the noble thing to do is todefend the Pope.
But but deep down, if youquestion them on this stuff,
they're like, Oh, they getuneasy about it, you know?
And like some of this, some ofthe stuff coming from some of
the stuff coming from from Romeis just so bizarre.
SPEAKER_06 (38:19):
Do we want to go over the uh the Parallelin
stuff?
SPEAKER_07 (38:22):
I'll uh yeah, actually, absolutely, yes.
We have to touch on Parallelbefore we go over to locals.
So, yeah, we'll do we'll doParallelin.
Parallel, I mean it it's I Ialmost don't know what to say to
it.
It's evil.
SPEAKER_06 (38:42):
Like this is evil what he said.
So uh speaking at the aid to thechurch and need needs religious
freedom report, what a name.
Um Pietro Cardinal Perry needsreligious freedom report, right?
Says that the violence againstChristians in Nigeria is not a
religious conflict of Muslimagainst Christians, but rather
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more a social one.
For example, disputes betweenherders and farmers.
We should all also recognizethat many Muslims in Nigeria are
themselves victims of this sameintolerance, adding there are
extremist groups that make nodistinctions in pursuing their
goals, they use violence againstanyone they see as an opponent.
So this is this is kind of whatI'm talking about, right?
SPEAKER_07 (39:27):
This isn't this isn't it's Marxism naive, or
this isn't this isn't just youknow like that is pure evil.
Like you're seeing Christiansbeing slaughtered.
Now that they're not just beingslaughtered, it's like become
Muslim or we kill you, and theythey murder the men and they
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enslave the women.
SPEAKER_06 (39:49):
And they they do that in a church, like in a
parent.
And they specifically go to tomass to do this, like and they
will kidnap seminarians andpriests and try to ransom them.
SPEAKER_07 (40:00):
It's like how how the how the how the a
pre-conciliar church would havecalled a crusade.
There would have been a crusadecalled to save our Christian
brothers in Nigeria.
(40:22):
Um bro, I'm a farmer.
I'm not getting in any disputeswith her.
Um all right, so what aboutthis?
Yeah, I heard a priest fromNigeria agreeing with Parallel
and it's not only Christians whoare victims.
SPEAKER_06 (40:36):
I also heard two or three other Nigerian priests
disagreeing with him too.
SPEAKER_07 (40:40):
So but yes, like dismissing, dismissing the just
completely dismissing the thesepoor people's plight is just
well.
SPEAKER_06 (40:52):
The thing is, if if you he says social, right?
He says it's it's more a socialone, but that's not what he's
saying.
He says disputes between herdersand farmers, he's really talking
economics, he's he's coming atit from a Marxist worldview, you
know, the the the bourgeoisieversus the the kulaks on the
farms and and things like that.
So it's he's just a Marxist,he's not a Catholic.
SPEAKER_07 (41:16):
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_06 (41:17):
For sure.
I I don't I but you're right,because he's the same person
that made the deal with theCommunist Party in China.
You so yeah, but I forgot aboutthat.
He really is a Marxist at heart.
SPEAKER_07 (41:32):
Yeah, this stuff.
I don't know.
Look, I didn't I didn't mean tobe just have this be a black
pill episode.
I'm just like the past week hasbeen rough for me.
Do you know who Eric Prince is?
Um, no.
SPEAKER_06 (41:43):
So he he's the founder of Blackwater, the uh oh
yes, I did see that.
Yes, the um the private militarycompany.
So you literally have abillionaire who founded his own
little army going ask saying theVatican, you fund this, and I'll
give you an army to protectChristians.
You know, the best they come upcan come up with is no, it's
herders versus farmers.
SPEAKER_07 (42:06):
I I don't know.
I don't know what happens, man.
I I just I see all of thisescalating.
I see everything, everything.
It's going to get crazier andcrazier, and it's gonna happen
faster and faster, and the worldis gonna get darker.
Um, I don't see any of itimproving.
I think it's going to get well.
I think the situation in thechurch is going to get far
(42:28):
worse.
SPEAKER_06 (42:30):
Um I mean, the situation in our country is
gonna melt down in about 10days.
SPEAKER_07 (42:38):
Oh, if the if they don't get the government over
the LGBT and stuff, yeah.
You're gonna have people robbingeverything.
SPEAKER_06 (42:44):
It's gonna be You're not gonna be the only one, the
algorithms turning racist ifthat happens.
SPEAKER_07 (42:51):
It's just it's just things are getting, I don't
know.
This was uh I'll try to come upwith something better for us to
talk about tomorrow night.
But I just had to because thishas all been on my mind for the
past couple of days when I'mwatching these videos in Dublin
and I'm watching the Diwalistuff, and I'm just like, what
(43:12):
the hell is happening right now?
SPEAKER_06 (43:16):
Uh that's BlackRock.
Black Rock is the monopoly, isthe private equity firm buying
houses.
Blackwater is the militarycompany that got in trouble in
Iraq.
SPEAKER_07 (43:27):
Yeah, I'm um yeah, we'll well, we're gonna go over
the locals and uh we'll figureout what we're gonna talk about
over there.
But yeah, I actually have twothings I want to talk about on
locals.
Uh that are that are a little, Imean, they're they're not
happier or anything, but we'llgo over there and we'll talk
(43:47):
about it.
But uh tomorrow I will try totry to find something better for
tomorrow night.
Tomorrow problem is um I have uhCPR training tomorrow at 5 p.m.
in the city, and I don't knowhow long it runs.
SPEAKER_06 (44:01):
I'm so glad for all of your employees that they no
longer do the rescue breathingportion of it.
Yeah, they don't.
SPEAKER_07 (44:12):
You just basically do chest compressions now.
Yeah, kind of interesting.
Um, but all right, so we aresize.
SPEAKER_06 (44:18):
Anthony says the same news, but also Jews.
Yes, pretty much.
SPEAKER_07 (44:23):
No, I actually I I there's um uh Chris Christopher
Hale uh brought up an articlefrom um uh uh Donahue.
Uh uh who's the who's the uh thethe Catholic Defense League?
Bill Donahue.
Bill Donahue, right?
Bill Donahue in 2012 wrote anarticle saying that that uh
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liberals should leave the churchthere, you know, and it's just
kind of funny how the tableshave turned.
It was kind of kind ofinteresting to see the switch.
Uh and then uh there's also butthen linked to that is a Joe
Heshmeier video of him sayingthat liberal Catholicism is
dead, which I agree with, and Ithink it's going to add to I
(45:07):
mean, I guess we can do theHeshmeier video here.
SPEAKER_06 (45:11):
Okay, that's interesting.
That gives me that gives me timeto upload a video for the
beginning of locals here.
Okay, the Heshmeier.
Let me look for it here.
SPEAKER_07 (45:20):
Yeah, wait, where's Bobby's comment?
If Anthony does CPR for morethan a minute, he'll end up
needing it.
CPR is hard.
Yeah, it really is.
Well, the thing is to do itproperly, you're gonna basically
break someone's ribs.
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (45:40):
Liberal Catholicism, at least in terms of the
priesthood, is spirituallybarren.
In fact, dead.
It simply has not reproduced.
Why?
Because you can't just blame thebishops.
It isn't as if the bishops arethe radical conservatives.
Rather, they're ordaining menwho, in many cases, are more
conservative and moretraditional than they are.
So, what's driving this?
And more specifically, what'sdriving the failure of liberal
(46:01):
Catholicism to produce priests?
I would suggest two things.
Number one, if you acceptliberal Catholic theses like
Gary Willis's claim that thepriesthood is not of apostolic
or Christ's origins, but israther an innovation, an
addition to Christianity, whybecome a priest?
If you don't believe in thepriesthood, don't be a priest.
But even more broadly, we couldsay if your view of the
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priesthood is essentially thathe's a community organizer and a
social justice activist, youdon't need to go to seminary for
years to do that.
You don't need to get ordained,you don't need to be accountable
to a bishop or a religioussuperior, and you certainly
don't need to be celibate.
Second, what I've been callingthis rightward shift has been
both in theology but also inpolitics.
So, what is that going to meanfor the future of the church in
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America?
What are you going to hear fromthe USCCB and from the pulpit on
topics like abortion, onimmigration, on just war?
I'm struck by this question.
What will we have gained?
And what, if anything, will wehave lost?
I'm actually very interested inyour thoughts on that.
I'd love to hear how you foreseethat.
SPEAKER_07 (47:00):
I want to give you my thoughts, Joe.
My thoughts are that yes, thereare so you do have because we
hear read articles like this allthe time.
Like the guys, the men that arejoining seminary are pretty
conservative, they're not trads,right?
They're not trads, they'reconcerned, they're like JP2 kind
of guys.
SPEAKER_06 (47:20):
They're not even conservative in they're they're
orthodox, orthodox in their intheir faith, right?
SPEAKER_07 (47:27):
So they like they they believe the Catholic faith.
And but the problem is thatbecause you have no, we're
probably gonna blackpill withthis too.
Just give us a minute becauseyou have the power at the top,
only elevating the devious onesto the points of power, it it
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becomes this like they onlyelevate the guys who are
nefarious, and that's kind ofthe place we're at right now.
So even if you have theseconservative priests, now the
other thing is the the theliberals who do join the
priesthood, like guys like JamesMartin, they join to commit
revolution, yeah.
They don't join because they onecould call it infiltration,
(48:10):
yeah.
Like they're joining toinfiltrate and and be elevated.
And look, you you you go back tothe to the to the um abuse
crisis, and not even not evenfor like the child abuse, like
the the you go back toMcCarrick.
McCarrick, what he was doing,bringing the seminarians out to
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his beach house, feeling themout to see which ones he could
have his way with.
Now, the ones he could have hisway with, you're the one getting
fast tracked up.
So they basically have this clubwhere the homosexual men just
bring up the other homosexualmen, and those are the guys
getting into the position.
So you basically, every singleperson in power is either a
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homosexual or willing to turn ablind eye to it, and that's
where we're at right now.
So, yes, you do have a lot ofconservative priests, and you
you are so so that's what waskind of interesting about the
Raymond Arroyo conversation withPrad, where Arroyo was like, you
know, back in the 80s it wasmayhem down at the parish level,
(49:11):
but you had this, you know,conservative as Pope.
So you had you know these goodencyclicals coming out from the
Pope, but then at the parishlevel it was mayhem.
Now there's kind of an inversionof that where you could have a
very solid parish now, and youcould have some very good
priests now, but all the men atthe top are just wicked, they're
(49:31):
just wicked, and anytime and ifthey have a bishop who isn't
wicked and he's good, he's gonnaget Strickland.
Like Strickland is now a verb.
You're gonna get Strickland.
Stricklanded, Stricklanded.
Um so it's uh it it's not it'snot it's not looking good, you
(49:55):
know.
And um, I saw there was a videoof uh um what uh what's the
what's the a bishop in SanFrancisco, uh Cordelione
participated in uh a conferenceon marriage with an Orthodox uh
priest, and there's aconversation with between them.
(50:18):
There's a guy that Lila Rose hadon his channel.
I'm just amazed Anthony knewwhat a verb was.
SPEAKER_06 (50:23):
I love how you misspelled new there, Brian.
SPEAKER_07 (50:26):
Yeah, go ahead, make fun of me.
Strickland or Pelled.
Yeah, uh Strickland got offeasy.
He's lucky he didn't have anysurgeries coming up.
Oh, I mean, that's not evensomething to laugh about, but
that's that's what happened toPell.
SPEAKER_06 (50:41):
Like Pell.
If they can murder JP1, they canmurder Pell.
SPEAKER_07 (50:48):
Pell wrote that Damos memo, the Demos memo he
sent out.
Uh, then he got a lot of infoabout what was going on with the
Vatican Bank.
He needed he was not someonethey wanted to contend with at
the next conclave.
I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_06 (51:06):
Do you uh I mean I'm not even gonna say like I
believe this, but uh do youthink maybe Burke's little plea
was an attempt to make sure hedoesn't get belled?
No, I think Burke because he wasDemos too.
SPEAKER_07 (51:23):
I know, but I think Burke I think Burke genuinely is
is coming up on the end of hislife and doesn't want to he
doesn't want to go down ascausing schism in the church,
like especially if if he helpedengineer Leo's ascendancy.
I I just don't think he I thinkI I think he doesn't I think he
(51:46):
wants to get face his makersaying I didn't cause any schism
in your like he takes schismvery seriously.
Well that's why he's harsh onthe SSPX.
Yeah, takes schism veryseriously.
I don't think it's cowardice, II think it's confusing, is what
I think.
And he's a he's a he's apost-consiliar bishop.
(52:09):
I I just these guys these guyscame up after the council and
they they they they love VaticanII, man.
All of them.
Well, all of them not Schneider,but he's not Schneider's the
only one, but Sarah does.
Sarah's a Sarah's uh hermenuticof continuity Benedict guy,
(52:29):
yeah.
Like this, yeah, this that too.
The oh um the uh conservativeshave this temperament, that's
why they always lose.
SPEAKER_06 (52:40):
Well, it's because for the most part,
conservatives, even themodernist type in the hierarchy,
are actually like decent men whotry to be holy, yeah.
So they're they're limited bythat, they have morals.
The the liberal leftists don't,you know, the ends justify the
means to them, so they have anupper hand in almost every
single scenario.
SPEAKER_07 (53:01):
I do think look, so now that Strickland got
Stricklanded, and uh and and umSchneider, like I think
Schneider is like, I don't care,I don't care.
Let them excommunicate me atthis point.
SPEAKER_06 (53:16):
Like, yeah, to him, it's like, what are you gonna
do?
Put me in a gulag.
SPEAKER_07 (53:19):
Yeah, I think that I think he's just like at a point
where he's like, I'm going tospeak the truth.
And Strickland, same thing.
He's like, So, what can they doto me?
What can they do to me?
They took my diocese away atthis point.
SPEAKER_06 (53:32):
And he's just a little too cozy with some weird
parts of the church, you know,charismatics and such.
SPEAKER_07 (53:42):
I think he's just I think he's just tries to love
those in his care.
And I think a lot of people alot of those people love him.
And I I I think that he justwants to love those in his care
and he wants to preach thetruth.
And it's just a it's just areally confusing time, man.
And it's like anytime anybodybrings this stuff up and goes,
(54:03):
look at who Leo's, look at whoLeo's promoting, you're a
schismatic, you're a set of acontest.
It's like, I don't know what totell you guys, man.
Like, I'm not blind, I seewhat's happening, and this is
this is happening.
And to pretend otherwise isalmost like complicit complicity
in it at this point.
I don't know.
Um I don't know.
(54:25):
It's it's scary stuff what we'retalking about.
We're talking about a completeand total takeover of the
Catholic Church by by wickedmen.
Like that's what we're talking.
I mean, it's been going on sincethe council, it has been going
on.
Like the council was theoriginal revolution, but we're
at a point now where it's justit's just been completely taken
(54:47):
over, and there's it's going toseem like all hope is lost.
Hey Joe.
Joe Diodotti.
OG.
SPEAKER_06 (54:59):
It has been a while since I've seen him in here.
Yeah, in a live chat.
SPEAKER_07 (55:05):
So, all right, yeah.
I mean, look, it's kind of hardto not.
SPEAKER_06 (55:10):
We did turn we did turn the the Heshmire thing into
a black bell.
SPEAKER_07 (55:14):
Yeah, I'm look, I don't I it's one of those
nights.
I'm just black belling.
I don't know.
It's a freaking Elon Musk, hisalgorithm.
I don't know what he did to it,but all I see is man, they are
really trying to start a racewar in this country.
SPEAKER_06 (55:32):
That's all I'm gonna say.
All I'm saying is about 10 days,you better be ready to blow the
bridges to Long Island.
SPEAKER_07 (55:39):
All I see are black people doing wild stuff, man.
We are talking a level offatigue.
SPEAKER_06 (55:47):
Well, for the record, he's talking about his
Twitter algorithm.
SPEAKER_07 (55:51):
Yes, like, but I don't I if it's in mine, it's in
everybody's.
I don't care.
Like the level of fatigue ishitting an all-time high, man.
Even like you you watched thecrowder conversation at the uh
at the barber shop.
SPEAKER_06 (56:05):
Yeah, it's just I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_07 (56:09):
It's it's just it's just they are trying to amp up
some major hostilities insideour country, like they want you
to hate your neighbor, they wantyou to hate, and the thing is, I
am I'm actually on the streetsand I have very good
interactions with black people,like I really do.
I have very good interactionswith black people.
If you all want to hear a storyfrom Charlotte, you'll have to
(56:36):
come over to locals because Ican't have the story on here.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, I wonder how many of theearly Roman mod martyrs were
black pillars.
Yeah, uh I yeah, you know what?
I don't I'm not really it's notthat I'm black pilling in the
sense that like I I know this isall necessary.
I'm an accelerationist, like Iwant this to happen.
(56:56):
I really do.
I I like this has to happen.
So as much as I'm just liketrying to assess the situation,
and but the reality is thisthing needs to come down.
Like this thing, this thingneeds to come down.
SPEAKER_06 (57:10):
What you're saying is in the short term, you don't
see any uh any light at the endof the tunnel coming up quick.
SPEAKER_07 (57:17):
No, I'm a long-term optimist, a short-term
pessimist, I guess.
SPEAKER_06 (57:20):
Long-term optimist, you think the world is ending.
That's a good thing, isn't it?
SPEAKER_07 (57:25):
I'm just saying there's no doesn't Christ come
at the end.
SPEAKER_06 (57:31):
I mean, I don't know if I would call that like I
don't know.
Um I'm seeing so many Sicilianvideos too.
Yeah, same thing.
SPEAKER_07 (57:45):
So the the yeah, I don't I look.
Um I honestly no, yeah.
You kind of you want yourfamily, it's man.
I think the living will envy thedead.
That's how bad it's gonna get.
Like in some places, noteverywhere.
I think in some places it'sgoing to be so bad that the
living will envy the dead.
I think Europe, Europe, it'sgoing to be so bad that the
(58:09):
former cr formerly Christiannations in Europe are going to
envy the dead because they aregoing to be chastised by Islam
in a way it's going to bebiblical.
It's going to be the Assyrianscoming in.
It's going to it's going to bebiblical.
It's going to be the Romansdestroying the temple type
stuff.
(58:32):
Yep.
That's just that's just how Isee it.
I I don't I I'm they're they'reum essaying their children and
letting them go, let them getletting them get away with it.
Like, how do you how does thatarresting the people who protest
who protest against it?
(58:54):
It's uh it's interesting becauselike when Tim Pool talked about
this today, but when we saw theBLM riots, we were like, people,
these people are animals, howcould you destroy your own city?
But when I watched the riots inDublin, I was like, good.
Like they they let this animaldo that to a girl and get away
with it, like your city shouldshould burn down.
The people in control need toneed to so it really is just
(59:20):
where your line is, where whereyou've where you're like, I've
had enough.
So um, yeah, I I mean don'twatch the Scorsese movie on it.
SPEAKER_06 (59:34):
I don't know if Anthony's read about them, but I
know you watched silence.
SPEAKER_07 (59:37):
Well, the Scorsese movie, it's like the first 90 is
the greatest Catholic film ofall time, and the last 10 is the
worst movie ever made.
So um, all right, we we're at anhour.
We're gonna head over to localsand we'll uh I don't know.
We got we got that Fuentes clipwhere he's talking about the
SSPX.
I know it's old news, but it'dbe interesting to break that
down.
SPEAKER_06 (59:57):
Fuentes and the SSPX, two subjects I Absolutely
love to talk about.
SPEAKER_07 (01:00:02):
Yeah, well, we'll do something.
Either way.
Alright, so we're gonna go tolocals.
We're only gonna do a half hourthere, and then I'm jump.
I'm gonna be on with my.
We can rip on Lila.
Yes, actually, that's what we'redoing.
Lila.
We're doing Lila Rose.
Lila Rose over on Locals.
Because that woman.
No, I actually have clips.
(01:00:23):
Hold on.
SPEAKER_06 (01:00:24):
I um I have a video I'm gonna take us out with uh
that um that uh the former videditor that he no longer wants
to be referred to by that nameon our show.
Yeah, never mind.
You guys won't understand if youdon't know who I'm talking
about.
SPEAKER_07 (01:00:44):
Okay, so uh yeah, that you know what?
That's all we're gonna I'm gonnaI got I got three clips from the
Lila Rose podcast that I want toplay.
Lila Rose had uh basically anecromancer on her show.
Uh a guy selling prophecy.
It's like Simony stuff.
It's insane what what what sheanyway.
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That's what we're gonna do overon locals.
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Hold on, let me let me upload this video.
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uh me, him, Fawaz, and myselfwill be there uh at 9 p.m.
So if you guys wanna if youcan't join us on locals, head
over there at 9 p.m.
and you'll see see me overthere.
Let me throw it and Rob onseparately.
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Yep, I'll be on next month sometime.
Let me throw the link to localsin here real quick while the
video loads, and then I'll takeus out.
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