EDC - What's in your "every day carry?" - Guns 'N Rosaries Ep. 5 - Avoiding Babylon

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The middle children of history.
Man, no purpose or place, youhave no great war, no great
depression.
Our great war is a spiritualwar.
That intro gets me pumped up.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I uh, I'm listening to it and I've got, I've got
some checks.
That intro gets me pumped up.
I'm listening to it and I'vegot some chicks in a cat carrier
like five feet from me, becausewe're growing out meat chickens
.
And so I'm here in the car andI'm hearing choop, choop, choop
the whole time and now I'mthinking did I put a birdie in
my smoke detector?
No, I don't have a smokedetector up here.

(01:12):
It was a little interesting to.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
If anyone's going to have a smoke detector chirping
in the background.
It's Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hey, that's, true, or Eric Ibarra, apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I saw that in the telegram.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
The urban crickets are batting a thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
It's always on, every time I watch a.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So Willing Spirits just bought a 365x macrocom and
got certified to conceal I'venot heard any issues with 365,
so hopefully you don't have thefirst mine is one of my favorite
carry guns, but is it man?
I uh, I just can't shoot smallguns.
Um, I'm just not.

(02:01):
I have a 43, I bought a 43 whenthey first came out and I just
I'm not good at them.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm like 5 to 7 yards is as far as I can shoot with
those things so my 365 is theAXG Legion, so it's same size as
the X Macro Comp really almostsame gun.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I shoot that gun pretty well, man, but it's not
the small 365 yeah, well, I meanstill it's only got like a
three and a half, three inch,three and a half inch barrel
right, it's a pretty small Ithink.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, I think it's three and a half, I think with
the comp it's.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know it's four inches long you got a red dot
yeah, I got a red dot what didyou zero it at what yardage?
15 really.
I had to switch out my red doton my carry because it cracked
and I put a hollow sun Roninthis, the 507 K comp or whatever

(03:06):
it is.
Uh, I didn't realize how big itis.
I think it's nice.
Yeah, I, usually it used to bemy red dot that was piggybacked
on my ACOG on my rifle and Itook that off to put on my carry
pistol and I had to zero it andI kind of like it.
I don't think I just zeroedbasically the red dot on top um,

(03:32):
just to have it, just in case,uh, but I never really used it
that much, but I like it.
I actually haven't in hereabout one show because youtube
doesn't like guns on livestreams stream the first couple
minutes anyways, yeah yeah,absolutely all right.
Um, so one thing we're going tostart doing.
What we set up is a.

(03:53):
Uh, guys, we set up a telegramchat, um, for those of y'all
that want to talk to like-mindedpeople that view this show.
Um, I've set it up to where ithas specific rooms for specific
topics.
We're going to lean into someother things later on as well,

(04:16):
starting next month.
We've got a little bit of asurprise coming for y'all as far
as interaction with thecommunity.
It'll be a chance for you allto really gauge where you're at
on some things.
But this will be the Telegramchat for specifically this show.
I know we have one for theregular Avoiding Babylon shows,

(04:40):
but this one, if we could justeverybody who wants to be a part
of this community join this,are you going to pin the chat?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, let me do.
We'll pin the link to the chat.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
We're not going to leave it in the description
because I don't want just somerando.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It is going to be open to everyone who wants to
join.
But yeah, we don't want randompeople, we just want some random
that comes along and just seesit and who wanted to join.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
But yeah, we don't want, yeah, random people to.
We just want some random thatcomes along and just sees it and
jumps in it and startsharassing people.
Um, but it's got some good uhtopics in there.
If y'all have questions aboutthings, we can ask each other.
Again, this is a community.
This is not me just spoutingknowledge to y'all and Rob
spouting knowledge to y'all.
I'm going to share with youwhat I know and Rob's going to

(05:27):
share with you what he knows.
You may need to fill in thegaps.
I don't know everything abouteverything.
I know a little bit about a lot, but there are some things I'm
just ignorant about and I mightneed some help on some stuff too
.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Adrian sent this one up way better than the the
normal avoiding babylon one.
So we got just general stuff.
We have networking, aself-reliance tab, training gear
, specifically firearms, andthen deal.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So yeah, I like that a lot yeah, hopefully it works
out well, hopefully we get agood community built up there.
Uh, specifically, I want y'allto utilize the networking tab so
y'all can start finding outwho's around you.
Uh, maybe it's like an hourthey're like an hour, hour and a
half away and maybe y'all canmeet somewhere to to go do some
shooting together or learn howto can or something you know, so

(06:21):
you can start learning otherpeople.
Because the hardest part aboutthis to go do some shooting
together or learn how to can orsomething you know so you can
start learning other people.
Cause the hardest part aboutthis is not.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
A lot of people are on the same background.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, they're going crazy, um, but there's not a lot
of people that may be in thissame line yet, um, and so this
is a good way for you to reachout to some people.
Um, and really just for your,your location, you can just take
, like, the nearest major city.
You don't have to put youractual address.
Don't do that, please don't,don't put your yeah, don't dock

(06:55):
yourself please.
But you know, give somethingwhere a general location, right.
And then when in the deals, ifI see a deal on some ammo or
something, I'll post it in there.
Or if y'all see some deals onsome stuff, something I'll post
it in there.
Or if y'all see some deals onsome stuff, y'all can post it in
there as well.
Especially if we're gettingcloser to Black Friday, you're
going to see a lot, especiallyright now, because, with Trump

(07:15):
in office, a lot of thesemanufacturers of firearms and
such they are really hurting forsome cash.
So you're going to see somemonster sales, I would assume,
here around Black Friday or sowe're going to post those things
in there and then some otherthings.
General is just the generaltopics.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
We should have a medical tab to that at some
point too.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, we will.
It's kind of hard to doeverything you know, like to put
everything in there, you know.
But yeah, well, as things comeup and if the topic starts to
get you know, if there's a longtopic in general about, like you
know, intel and area study,we'll make one for that too,
like it's very easily alterable,so that won't be an issue.

(08:03):
But that should be it.
On the Telegram, like I said,I've got something cooking for
you all starting next month.
Rob and I got to get togetheron a little organization of it
and how we're going to presentit.
But other than that, I thinkthe first show in October we'll

(08:24):
show it, we'll go over it, butother than that, let's go ahead
and get it.
Rob, you want to go ahead andplay that Either video you pick.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
So well, since we're announcing stuff, we did get our
first sponsor guys and it's apretty major sponsorship.
So here is the ad read for oursponsor and hopefully you all
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(08:58):
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Speaker 2 (09:01):
Experience the evolution that was so good, oh
my gosh.
And my kids saw that Likethat's not you, is it Daddy?
I'm like, yeah, that's my faceon somebody else's body.
Kind of me.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
How do you do that?
You should tease them so we canhave your kids make stuff for
us they're so excited about itlike I can't believe, did he
really shoot you?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
all right, so, uh, we're gonna get into some
everyday.
This is.
I've seen a lot of shows kindof revisit.
This Taffy really is not paidenough.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I've seen a lot of shows revisiting everyday carry
since Charlie Kirk.
Everybody from John level.
I don't know if y'all everwatched the hard men podcasts.
That's a pretty decent one.
As well Other Protestants, sodon't hold that against them,
but I've seen it a lot coming upa lot and really, to be honest
with you, there's not a lot torevisit.
Maybe it's to bring it back topeople's mindset, for them to

(10:18):
keep this at the forefront oftheir mind.
Maybe they need to at leastevaluate what they have or what
they are or are not carrying.
Man, are those chicks likedriving you insane?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
So it's always hard for me to judge because I have
really really good headphonesstudio headphones on, so I don't
know if the average person canhear but I can hear y'all.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Can y'all hear the chicks in the background?
Let me know in the chat and ifit gets too crazy I'll put them
outside the room.
I mean, they're just goingcrazy.
I have two chicks in my, in myoffice, my team room space here,
and they were raising them toto process them for meat, and

(11:00):
we've had them about two weeksand they got their legs caught
in in the feeder and so we hadto separate them from everybody
else, because chickens areruthless, they'll, they'll just
kill the other chickens ifthey're a little hurt, um, so we
had to separate them out.
So if they get too crazy, y'alllet me know and I'll just move
them outside the room.
Um, but they don't like metalking, I guess.

(11:23):
So, uh, a lot of these showsshows have been reevaluating it,
and I've really looked at somestuff as well, and it's not
really what I've carriedpersonally.
I've changed some things aboutwhat I carry in my car because
there is a car EDC as well.
I think we want to have somethings and I've got some
examples of stuff when we get tothat.
But it did make me reallyevaluate some things, um, you

(11:48):
know.
So I think it's always good to,as we say, you know, do your 5s
and 25s.
You know things that are closeto you, check those things for
um, and then you're further outthreats right, your 25s.
When we used to dismountvehicles, um, in afghanistan,
you would check immediatelyaround you when you first got
out, see what's there, and thenyou would go a little bit

(12:08):
further out and look what's outthere and then you you would
fully dismount from the vehicleand move out, you know, on foot.
But this is kind of doing thesame thing with our edc, um, and
what the first thing I want togo over is mindset like why, why
do we carry things?
What?
Why, specifically, are wedeciding to carry things on our

(12:30):
person other than our?
You know our phone or keys inour wallet, right, um.
And then you know what is thepurpose for the things that we
carry and you know what are wedesiring to be able to do with
those things.
So for me personally and I'lllet you go rob um the things I

(12:52):
carry on my person one, I don'tlike carrying a lot at all.
I don't like a bunch of stuffin my pockets at all, um, and I
don't even like I don't evenwear shorts with cargo pockets
on.
I don't like things in mypockets at all, and if I'm
carrying something on myself,it's for a purpose.
I've got my wallet because I'vegot to be able to pay for stuff

(13:13):
, have to ID myself, things likethat.
I've got my keys because I'llbe able to get it out of things.
But then we have to look atwell, how deep do we want to get
into this?
How much do we want to carry?
Do we want to be prepared foreverything, or do we want to be
prepared for just enough?
The things I consider formyself are I've got a wife and

(13:37):
kids.
I have my wife and my four kids.
It's me and my son are the onlytwo boys in the whole house.
Even well, the cat's a boy, sowe got another one right.
But other than that like it's abunch of girls in my house and
they know if something happens,it daddy's in charge and daddy's
gonna take care of it.
Um and so, with that thinkingand that mindset of, well, what

(14:00):
do I do to take care of myfamily, or what do I need on
myself to get back to my family,that's what happens, right, I
need to have make sure thatbecause, as most of us do, we
probably all commute, you know,at least five to 25 miles, right
, if you I don't know if you'veever walked 25 miles before, but
that's a long walk.
It's going to take you a while,you know.

(14:21):
So, having things that caneither you be used immediately
or, uh, give me the capability,uh to uh be able to get back to
my family, um, or such things, Iuse every day, right, my pocket
knife.
I use every single day.
I'm either opening Amazon boxes, or I'm unveiling uh, unveiling

(14:42):
hay, or'm freeing a pig fromsome bushes out in shrubbery and
stuff, or something right, or Ineed to cut something for my
car, whatever, right, I use myknife every so.
I always want to have somethinglike that, but there's a lot of
other items that I have that Ijust rarely use, but I want to

(15:03):
have it because I'd rather haveit than and then not need it.
So, having the mindset of whywe're have a purpose for
everything you carry and what isyour overall goal for an
everyday carry Cause we're noteven getting into firearms yet-
right.
We all have a reason for that,but there are other things that

(15:24):
you can carry on yourself, thatyou need to consider why that is
so for me.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Those are my considerations I mean, I think
you summed it up pretty well.
Um, I'm kind of the opposite.
I don't.
I don't mind having stuff inpockets and, um, I'll admit, I'm
a I'm a big, cargo, short,cargo pant kind of guy.
Um, I always have been.
I've always just had a ton ofstuff in my pockets, ever since
I was a kid, and my kids are thesame way.

(15:50):
They stuff their pockets fullof everything.
So I don't mind it and I tendto probably be overprepared.
But, generally speaking, like,yeah, I have, you know, besides
what everyone has the phone, thewallet, the keys, whatever,
what I carry is the stuff I feellike I have a decent chance at

(16:14):
using in a day.
Or, like you said, needing inorder to to, you know, get back
to my family if need, because Iwork about 25 miles away from
home.
Um, it's nice because there'sno traffic, but the downside to
that is is if I were to have toget from my place of work to
home in some sort of emergencysituation where the roads aren't

(16:36):
passable, vehicles aren'tworking, something like that, I
do have a 25 mile walk throughthe woods to get home.
So I I have the the very basicsI would need on hand to to make
that track possible.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, who's a?
Miss C said you know they keepa pair of tennis shoes.
That's a good idea, and andyeah, and I normally do, but
then I use them and forget toput them back.
You know, like I usually I gota pair of Solomon's.
Just, you know, ankle highboots.

(17:13):
They usually keep them in thevehicle for that, because I can
walk forever in those things,and but one day I got to use
them because I go over to ourproperty, you know, 10 minutes
away, and then I forget to putthem back in the vehicle.
You know, but that's a good idea, Cause the last thing you want
to do is walking home in dressshoes.
That's going to hurt real bad.
You can have some blisters,real bad.

(17:34):
It's just not, it's not.
You're going to be having a badday.
So, yeah, things like that,thinking outside the box and
some of this stuff Good, I'mglad I'm from the South, so I
can't help that.
That's just how I roll.
I can have a guy who fit manyscissors, glue, some graph paper

(17:56):
, a small pencil.
I mean you could start fireswith that.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You can do a lot of stuff with that.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, there's a lot.
So yeah, I mean there's someoutside the box thinking on a
lot of this stuff that you know,just and didn't but use it
right, put it to use to, uh,anything that you end up having,
and figure out if you want tohave it or not.
Um, I used to carry a um, a 50watt radio, and it was like in a
bag and I was.

(18:24):
I just got tired of carryingthat thing around and I never
used it, uh, because, like, whoam I gonna talk to other than,
like I talked to my wife fromthe property?
It'll reach that far, but shecan't reach to me because I
don't have another 50 watt radiofor her to reach to me.
Um, I've got one so she canhear me, but I can't hear, she
can't transmit back to me, itwon't reach um.
So I had to get rid of that.

(18:44):
I mean, I I just stopped usingit, um, and I'll probably end up
mounting it in my, my farmtruck.
But you know, I tried to use itand I was like man, this just,
I'm just carrying this thingaround for no reason, and that
was back in like early days ofprep.
I got in the radios like realhard and heavy, um, and I went
and got my like tech license andall that.

(19:04):
But uh, yeah, just put thesethings to practice and see, make
sure that they're worth usingum, and then you know getting
into.
There's no reason to try andreinvent the wheel either.
Okay, uh, when we get intothings like um, you know

(19:25):
carrying your firearm, aren'tyou where you carry it?
Um, or we get into, you know,do we use off-body carry?
We'll get into fanny packs andstuff like that.
Um, you know, or v, you know,depending on on how you're
choosing to carry.

(19:45):
Don't try and reinvent thewheel, right, don't put a magnet
in your car to stick your gunto.
Okay, those things haveinstances of negligence
discharged a lot.
So let's not do that.
But just figure out some thingsthat you know are from

(20:06):
reputable trainers and go gettraining about it.
There's a lot of trainers thatwill do, you know, disembarking
a car right in like a riot orsomething.
We got one here in Alabama thatdoes that.
And you realize like if youneed to get out of your car,
it's real hard to get outwithout getting shot, cause that
car's not stopping nothing Likethose doors.

(20:28):
Nine millimeter will go throughboth sides.
It'll go through the glass, 22will go through a door right, so
that that car is not protectingyou from anything.
So if you need to get out ofthat vehicle real fast, how do
you do it Right?
And if you're not carrying onyour body and it's in the seat,
you forget to grab it right.
You got to train around thosethings.

(20:48):
So you, these things you got to, you got to keep in in
consideration.
I got like a tickle in the backof my throat.
Um.
So with that you specificallyhow I carry, I can specifically
talk about the firearm.
I carry appendix and we'vetalked about this before.

(21:11):
But I carry appendix becauseI've trained that way.
It's the fastest for me to draw, as well as it is the easiest
for me to transition to anon-dominant firing hand from.
I can't reach around to mythree o'clock with my left hand.
Very well, the shoulders justdon't like twisting that way and

(21:34):
so that's why I carry.
But I also know when I'm in thevehicle I'm not carrying
appendix.
While I'm sitting in thevehicle for a while I'm going to
take it off and I'm going toslide seat beside me in the
console.
I gotta remember to grab thatbefore I get out.
You know if something happenswhen your mind's racing,
something's going on, you're inthe middle of an antifa.

(21:54):
You know riot like you're notthinking about those things.
I mean, how many times havehave y'all locked your keys in
your car right and that youweren't under any stress and you
still locked your keys in yourcar Right.
So you've got to be able totrain around these things and
just practice with whateveryou're planning on doing.

(22:16):
You carry a like four or fiveo'clock right.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Two or three.
So, yeah, I carry outsidewaistband about two or three
o'clock.
Yeah, um, like, when I'msitting I'll push it back to
like three, maybe even a littlepast three, but when I'm
standing I'll then push it up tolike two o'clock yeah, I did a?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
uh, I did a course last year with a local
municipalities swat team and hewent from appendix he used to
carry appendix all the time andthen he went to a four o'clock
because he gets in and out ofhis vehicle so much that he
doesn't like to keep having tograb his firearm, and I get that
, um, but he's also a twig, um,and so like you can't see

(23:05):
anymore anyway, um, I'm a littlebit thicker of a guy.
You know hit the gym a littlebit.
So, uh, carrying four o'clock,it looks like I've got a ostomy
bag stuck to the back of me.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Um, see, well, I'm lucky enough where I live to
wear eight months out of theyear, you know, know, I can wear
a like a cover garment, youknow, vest or or or something
like that to help conceal it.
You know, three, four o'clock.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, that's the, the trade-off I have down here.
Like it's nice 10 months out ofthe year down here.
August and September are ourhottest months down here.
The rest of the year down hereum, august and september are our
hottest months down here.
The rest of the year is prettynice.
Yeah, like it's.
It's still 90 degrees right now.
Um, it'll be 90 degrees untilnext week, I think.
I think saturday or sunday islike the last of it.

(23:57):
But the other side of it is Idon't really wear a jacket very
much in the in the winter.
I will maybe two weeks a year,only the rest of the time
wearing like a thick shirt yeah,but I mean between october and
april for us.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
You know, I have a, I have a jacket on, so yeah, yeah
.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
So it's a little bit easier for you to uh to carry
when you have an outer garmentthat can cover it um anyone ever
tried to go soft loops on aholster?
getting tired of the singleplastic clip on my small rigs?
Um, yeah, I mean I have, if youwant to go.
I take mine off a lot, so Ilike the clips.

(24:39):
Um, like, when I get home I'lltake it off and put it, you know
, on my dresser, um, or when I'min the I'm taking off.
When I get home I'll take itoff and put it, you know, on my
dresser, or when I'm taking itoff, when I get in and out of
the car.
So I like the clips for that.
I don't like the clips that arefar apart, where you really got
to use two hands to do it, totake it off.
Like the Incog does that, and Ithink I have my T-Rex sidecar

(25:03):
does that.
I like to be able to take itoff with one hand, like and I
think I have my T-Rex sidecardoes that.
I don't even like that.
I like to be able to take itoff with one hand.
So this is my carry.
So I've just got these regularclips right here that I can just
pop up and take right out of mypants, right, and so the the

(25:25):
loops are fine and they'rereally good for deep carry.
Like, there's some guys thatthey're a whole certain I think
it's called cherry and it goesdeep, super deep, but that's
designed by former SF guys thatused to go, you know, behind
enemy lines and train indigenouspeople against their government

(25:48):
pretty much, and they just needto be able to conceal where
nobody, absolutely nobody, knewthey had anything on, even the
guys on their team, and they dothat.
They like a really deep conceal.
So the soft loops will do that.
It will allow you to conceal alittle bit deeper.
I'm not a fan of shoulder rigs,so the, the soft loops will do
that.
Well, that allow you to conceala little bit deeper.
Um, I'm not a fan of shoulderrigs, um, just because they're

(26:11):
so loose, uh, there's, they'renot very rich, and when you pull
the firearm out, um, and it'll,it won't sometimes you'll have
to yank on it.
And then you're flagging peopleas you're, because it's
flagging everybody behind youtoo.
So you're pulling that thingout.
Hopefully you don't put yourfigure on the trigger and
accidentally, indeed, somebodybehind you, they're they're.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
You know they they work for carrying full-size guns
under like suit jackets at massor something.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
But uh, other than that, so let me ask you
something how did you, how didyou get your family on board
with you carrying a firearmevery day?
So like I will, and like alittle bit of an on-ramp that
you had to do, like you know, or?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I was basically already there when I met my wife
.
I wasn't carrying every day,but I had guns already.
She was comfortable with gunsso she was okay.
When I decided to get theconcealed carry permit, we
weren't even married yet, wewere just dating, so she was

(27:26):
fine with it from the beginning.
So from the time my oldest wasborn, you know, I was carrying
daily.
So it's something they've justgrown up around, it's just part
of daily life and I bet if youask them if the average person
carried daily, they probablywould assume yes.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, do your kids know that you carry?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
yes, yet that somehow still does not stop them from
running their head into myholster every single time yeah,
and they look at you.
Like you, you just did theworst thing possible to them and
they're crying and it's likeyou know that's there.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's been there since the day you were born yeah
, my, uh, my five-year-old lovesto run up and just like
headbutt because I carryappendix and so she'll just
headbutt my firearm.
I'm like you know, this is whathappens.
I don't know why you keep doingthat.
Um, so I didn't.
I didn't start carrying until Iwas in fact I never shot it.

(28:22):
Well, I'll say never.
I didn't regularly shoot apistol till I was in the marines
for like three years no,probably about three or four
years and I didn't startcarrying till I got my first
pistol after Sandy hook.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
And so that was a trend, that was a transition for
me and that was a transitionfor my Especially, and so it it
took a little bit for her to beokay and comfortable enough with
it.
Now, my kids, now my kids, mykids, I have to tell them, you
know, especially as they getolder, like, hey, we don't tell

(29:00):
anybody that daddy has the powerright no one needs to know this
, because there may be.
Sometimes.
I carry it where it's, it'sfrowned upon.
Let's say yes where there may,where there might be some
repercussions, but I'd ratherhave it, not need it, right, I'd
rather risk that than being ina facility where you know

(29:23):
somebody comes in and we're alljust sitting ducks.
So, my, it took a while totrain my kids to know like, hey,
we don't tell anybody, daddyhas this, you know, and so, and
so they'll come up man, andthey'll like get real close and
like you have your firearm onyou.
So, uh, yeah, but it took alittle bit of getting them used

(29:48):
to it.
Um, and that that might besomething y'all, y'all will have
to consider, right, I wouldsuggest, as a man, because it is
your responsibility to protectyour family, you, you should not
be seeking permission from yourwife to carry, right, you
should do it anyway, and shejust has to be okay with it.

(30:12):
And if she isn't okay with it,then you need to help her become
okay with it by taking her tothe range, having her shoot the
gun.
And if she doesn't want to dothat, then you got to figure
some way to kind of ease herinto it.
You know, because it is yourresponsibility, it's not hers

(30:32):
and it's not the police.
We've already discussed that,right, your responsibility, it's
not hers and it's not thepolice.
We've already discussed that,right it's.
You need to take thisresponsibility seriously, um,
but be you know, be aware thatit may require a little bit of
kid gloves on your side to getthem on board.
You know, it's the same thingwith, like starting to, you know

(30:52):
, prepare as well, like puttingfood away and getting water
filters and stuff like that.
Your spouse may not be on boardyet you need to help them get on
board, and that may be.
You know, hey, you see anarticle about.
You know, such and such townwent without power for 12 days
because, you know, hurricanehelene came through.
Right, you send that to herlike, hey, what would we do if

(31:12):
this happened?
Because right now that's neverhappened to most of us, nothing
like that.
So it's a far away example thatwe may never come in contact.
But the first time you come incontact with it or the first
time that something happens,then you're going to have an
issue because you're notprepared for it.
So if you need to help get heron board, that not prepared for

(31:34):
it.
So you, if you need to help gether on board, that may just
mean that you're slowly exposingher to this stuff, because my
wife doesn't look at any of thisstuff.
She all she needed was for usto be out of power.
For two days now we had to goto a hotel because our heat
wasn't on right for.
She's like what do we need todo to fix this blank check?
You're right, all right, I'mdoing what we got to do you know
mary's nest.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Prepping videos is a great resource for women and the
farm internet man you know, for, um, I I did not have much
issue with my wife and like Iwas just with firearms.

(32:19):
But you know, just preparationand preparedness in general and
I think large, well, one, it'sjust kind of how she is.
But two, also just where welive.
Like there was one winter a fewwinters ago where we were
without water for three daysbecause the city's water main
froze.
And a few years before that,right before we moved up here,

(32:42):
the town was without power forthree or four days because there
were so many trees down it tookthe power company forever to
get the lines back up.
Get the lines back up, um, youknow it wouldn't take much.
You know, when you're in themiddle, in a small town, in the
middle of the woods, literallyat the end of the road, to to

(33:02):
leave a whole town of 1500people, you know, just
completely helpless, basically,um, yeah, so that that that made
it easy.
Now I understand for people.
You know, in the middle of acity where, where they've never
gone without power, water,things like that, for more than

(33:22):
a few hours, that, um, that youget that illusion of safety.
But you do have to recognizethat really is just an illusion
and, if anything, in an extendedloss of utilities or something
like that, you're in a far worsesituation than than, say, I am
in a small town yeah, well, evenyou know california has rolling

(33:43):
brownouts where they'll havefewer.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
You know four or five hours a day where they may not
have power because it's too much, it's too taxing on the grid
and that's only going to getworse as our infrastructure gets
worse.
You're only going to see thatmore often, like with that
snowstorm that hit Texas.
What was that five years ago?
Yeah, they switched all torenewable energy in certain

(34:07):
portions of the state and thenthe ice broke all those solar
panels and it just busted andthey had no power in a lot of
parts of the state.
So, uh, these are, these areall.
It doesn't have to be like aemp or civil war or whatever it
could.
Nature is trying to kill you,right, and you gotta be prepared
for that.
Um, one thing that you know forus specifically um, I've got a

(34:31):
solar generator, but it's mostlyfor the freezers and stuff.
I need to put one on my well,because we had an issue with our
power went out.
What was it last week?
Did we talk about that?
Last time we were on, the guyhit the power pole on my house.
Yes, I was without power forlike seven hours and I couldn't

(34:52):
take a shower or anything, so Ihad to switch to city city water
, which they don't like.
Um, but they don't like that.
I can do both, but uh, but Ihad to switch to city water and
I hate it smells like chlorine,it smells like a pool, it's so,
um.
So I was like man, I've got togo.
Now I'm looking at like I needa dedicated man.

(35:17):
My farm internet is having aconniption fit tonight.
I need to get some Starlink.
I need to get some Starlink.
Put that thing out here.
The only problem is I only usethis when I come out here for
the show.
Yeah, yeah, now, if y'all wantto, you know, give me a Starlink

(35:41):
.
I will gladly accept robs forany topic that you want would
you take sig money for Starlinkdo what?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
would you take money from sig for Starlink first, no,
no, no, no, maybe, maybe, maybemy principles are fungible.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
We'll just say that um, so uh, let's get into what
we carry.
I'm gonna let you go first,cause I talk way too much.
I'm taking over Anthony spot.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Okay, um, where do we want to start guns or
everything else?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Uh, let's do it like this so you pick one thing that
you carry, we'll do the gun last.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Right, cause that's what everybody's waiting for is
the gun.
Um, pick one thing and I'llshow one thing I carry Every day
.
We'll do on person first, onperson first.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
So first thing is this this is basically my wallet
.
It has all my, all the normalstuff you'd carry in a wallet,
like cards, money, insurancecards, stuff like that but it
also has a notebook for takingnotes Leaving last will and

(37:04):
testament in case you're aboutto die I think every guy thinks
about that, right, what theywould write as the last note if
they're bleeding out you are butalso a couple pens and a yeah,
a marker.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
So that's my wallet notebook, pens, all that sort of
stuff I uh, all that stuff Iusually carry off body Um cause
I don't wear cargo pockets.
We already discussed this.
Uh so my first thing I, this isa flashlight.
All right, I always carry aflashlight, um, and I I use this

(37:43):
thing more during the day thanI do at night.
Yes, like, if there, if I needto find something under my seat
or there's a dark crevice in ain a stairwell or something, I'm
turning this thing on.
Um, this is the uh streamlightwedge.
I think it is, but it's flat soit's not round sitting in my
pocket, which makes ituncomfortable.
Um, it charges by usbc.

(38:04):
I don't know if y'all can seethat, um, and it's just been.
It's been a great little light.
It's pretty bright.
Um, there have been times whereI've scared my kids with it, um
, because they're outside doingsomething I'll be doing, and so
I'll shine them a lot in theface and they'll get freaked out
.
Um, but I use this thing a lotand, uh, it's got a safety
feature where you can turn itoff.

(38:25):
Let me see if I can do it.
Lock, lock the button.
Yeah, all right, so now it'slocked.
And now when I press it, itwon't, it just gives me a red.
Yeah, right, so it doesn'tactually automatically go off.
It's it's really intent.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Like you do it like five times and then hold it on
the fifth time if you have a uh,you ever almost start your leg
on fire with that thing, becauseI know I have with mine I have
left it on on.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Sometimes I have an o light that I won't.
I don't carry on me.
I usually just for like I'llclip it to my hat because it's
got a little clip on it.
But I've left that thing in mypocket and it gave me a first
degree burn yeah, yep, um, yeah,uh, just this is a lock b field

(39:13):
journal.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
By the way, in case anyone's interested in what we
show, we'll try to name them.
Um.
So my next thing since you didyour flashlight, I'll do mine,
and really it's same idea.
This is a night core edc 29 andit's it's flat, a lot like that
uh, streamlined wedge, um,similar to a little different

(39:38):
than yours, but same idea.
It's got a lockout.
This is like a slider on theside that you have to do before
you turn on, and this one, Ithink, goes up to 1200 lumens
normally, and then it also has a2000 lumen or something super
mode, but that drains the powerin 10 seconds.

(39:59):
But yeah, like you said, I usethis thing honestly all the time
.
It's got a way betterflashlight than my phone Stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
It's super useful literally all the time, so I
love it yeah, I, uh, I like, Ilike a lot of these things
because they have the usbc,because my phone has usbc,
everything is pretty much usbctoo yeah, um, so I can charge
this in the car on the way towork if I, if it got dead that
morning for whatever reason orsomething.
So just the the utility of beingable to charge it whenever and

(40:36):
not having to worry aboutchanging our batteries, and it's
like IP six, I think.
Whatever it is, it's like up toa meter is waterproof, which
makes it nice.
Let's see my next thing.
So, oh, like I said, I'vealways got a knife on me.
This is a Spyderco, this is myfarm knife.
The thing is, I've cut metalwith this thing, um hardware

(41:01):
cloth.
If anybody knows what that is,it's like metal netting.
Um, I've cut everything it'sgot.
I don't like serrated edgeblades, but this was a gift, um,
so I use it all the time,though, but I always have a
knife on me because I use it allthe time for many, but I have
way too many on me, cause I useit all the time for many, but I
have way too many knives, waytoo many.
I've got out the front knives.
I've got, you know, spydercoknives.
Most of them are full.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I've got a few fixed blades.
I've got one my wife got me asmade from like a railroad spike.
She got from a homesteadfestival year before Nice, year
before last.
But it's good to always have ablade on you to be able to cut
things.
But you never know when you'regoing to have to cut a zip tie
or whatever.
But buy a good quality knife.

(41:43):
My dad always told me there'sthree things you never skimp on
One is a good pair of boots, oneis a good watch and one is a
good knife.
Your dad is a wise man boots.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
One is a good watch and one is a good knife.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Um your dad is a wise man.
The last year, forever.
Um, I don't know how much thiswas.
It was a gift, but I bought onethat was a little bit of an up.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Man is internet.
Well, until he comes back, umyeah, we're going to put all the
all, all this stuff in the gearsection of the telegram.
So make sure you join thetelegram that's in the pinned
comment in the live chat andwe'll put a list of all the
stuff in the gear section incase any of you are interested

(42:28):
in it.
And I don't know if he's comingback at all, guys, oh boy be,
oh there he is, there he is youknow, you were saying what the
price, the cost of the knife wasbefore you.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
So that one I don't know how much it was, but the
regular one I have that.
I've got a one that is a littlebit upgrade for that and it's
like 70 bucks that's, I meanspider co's.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, that's not bad for a spider co no, not bad at
all.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Um, but I so I have a gerber um that I was issued in
the marines as an auto folderand you're not allowed to have
auto folders unless you'remilitary or fire now I think.
But, um, benchmade used to be alot better.
Their quality control hasreally dropped off now they got

(43:19):
popular and I just don't thinkthey're worth the money anymore.
Uh, you can buy very goodsimilar knives for much cheaper
which one is this demco?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
have you ever heard demco?
No, I would.
This is about the cost of youraverage bench made, but I would
say it's significantly better inmy opinion and the problem is
is, once they get into rapidexpansion, you have a lot of
issues with quality control.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Uh, there's a one that I always wanted.
I just didn't never wanted todrop the money for it.
It's called zero tolerance, um,but they're really big knobs
Like it's a folder, and onceit's folded out, it's like nine
inches long.
They're crazy big and they'relike two and a half inches wide.
It's it's insane.
But, uh, I just can't.
I can't justify carryingsomething like that.

(44:12):
Um, so, like I said, I don'tcarry a lot.
The only other thing I reallycarry on me all the time is it's
my rosary.
Yeah, um, I always have it onme, even though I probably
should pray it more than I do.
We pray one rosary a night as afamily, um, you know, but I've

(44:33):
always got it on me because itreminds me of things.
This is one of the ones Iusually carry a much smaller one
that will fit in the actualchange pocket of my jeans.
That's a little bit bulkier,but this is the one I've been
carrying today.
Because I was wearing dressslacks today, it was a little
easier to carry.
But one aspect of this is beingspiritually prepared too,

(44:57):
because, as we've seen in thelast 12 days.
The demons have made themselvesknown and we've got to protect
against that, and I was watchinga good video today by Dan Burke
talking about all the sins thatattack your family.
Come through the father and ifyou're not prepared, you're not
spiritually protecting yourfamily, you're derelict in your

(45:19):
duties.
Make sure y'all are.
You know you've got.
You know I've got my scapularon.
You know all the time I makesure my kids always have theirs
on you know.
So just make sure you're,you're carrying a, something as
well that reminds you of yourfaith and keeps you your prayer

(45:41):
life in in use what else you got, so my daily knife um?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I would never have bought this because because
they're they're stupid expensive.
But it was gifted to me, but itis a Chris Reeve.
Which one is this?
This is the Benza, I think 31,something like that.
Yeah, don't look them up, don't, don't buy one, seriously Is

(46:16):
that what you tell Hope.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Tell her don't look how much I paid for this.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, but, like I said, this one was a gift.
So, yeah, that's the knife Itend to carry.
I carry this one, even thoughit's, like I said, it was a gift
and super expensive for theperson who bought it for me.
But, um, I know this thing isgonna outlast me, so I know it's
gonna.
It will be there when I need itto be there, no matter what.

(46:44):
Yeah, um, but otherwise, youknow other knives, like you know
the demco I like.
Um, I have a spiderderco 2 thatI carry from time to time.
Like you said, just make sureyou get a good knife.
Microtech is another brand Ilike a lot, but, yeah, any of

(47:05):
those are good.
What else I carry?
I have my Rosary, of course.
This is the Rugged RosaryBattle Beads.
This is the rugged rosarybattle beads.
Do you carry a lighter on you?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I do not.
I do have one, like I have onein my bag.
I always have a backpack withme.
So I work an office job so Ialways have, like my leather
briefcase and a backpack.
My backpack is usuallymulti-use, uh, but I have one in
there, but I don't keep one onme, um, because I I mean, when I

(47:41):
smoke my pipe it's always athome.
I gotta redo it out, you know.
Um, I'll take that back.
We have a really awesome pipeand cigar shop here called the
briary, um, lucky, and I mightgo there.
Sometimes it's, man, it's likeit smells like granddad's house
when I walk into it.
Man, it's awesome.
Um, but yeah, I usually don't.

(48:02):
Now my lighters I do have.
I have about three feet of uhtape wrapped around them, nice
duct tape, you know because Ialways need duct tape for things
.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, so I just have a Zippo here.
This is a St Benedict metalZippo that I found, which is
sweet.
Yeah, so I carry a lighter onme all the time.
I don't you know, sometimesI'll have a cigar or a cigarillo
or something like that, but Iusually don't like to use zippos
for those.
But uh, but, like I said, if Ihave to try to make it home

(48:40):
walking through the woods,you'll need to be able to start
a fire.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
So I've learned to carry a lighter, yeah absolutely
, yeah, I uh, I have like knifeand I have a knife and ferro rod
in the car, so if I need it, Ijust throw it in my backpack,
and I've got the lighter in thebackpack as well, just in case.
Let's see what else do I have?

(49:06):
Oh, let me take this off.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I was going to say what do you wear for a watch?

Speaker 2 (49:12):
I have a few watches.
This is a Casio.
I've had this since the marines.
It's solar, so I never Ihaven't, I've never changed the
battery on this thing ever andI've had this thing almost 20
years um, and but I havemultiple other watches, like I
have dress watches and stuff.
But you always need a way totell the time without looking at
your phone.
Yeah, and this was nice becauseI don't ever have to charge it.

(49:35):
Um, I've got, you know, I'vegot a citizen eco watch that my
wife bought me.
Um, but I might have to send itin because my wrists are
getting a little too big for it.
Um, and it's like the ratchet,you know links to it.
Uh, but you always need a wayto be able to to tell time
without, because, look at, welook at our phone way too much

(49:57):
as it is, um, and so being ableto see you know what time it is,
this, you know, this has got acompass on it as well.
It's also got a, uh, you know,tell me what temperature is with
a barometric pressure is likeit's got way too much on it.
But, and I've never usedanything by the time really in
the alarm.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
So, uh, but I can tell the time without looking at
my phone yeah, I have ahamilton field watch automatic
or automatic manual field watch,so it self winds, keeps time
pretty good.
Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
It's not perfect, but it will keep time pretty well
see, I'm trying to think whatelse I got on me.
I got my head, my airpods on me.
Airpods yeah, it's the one youknow because I need to make a
phone call or something um, orlisten to avoiding babylon.
Uh, while I'm milking the cow,I mean that show y'all did last

(50:55):
night, goodness there was alittle a little bit much to
listen to.
What about it?
It's a rough one.
Man.
I just like I love Wagner.
He's a good dude but, man, he'sreal dry to listen to sometimes
.
And then you know Anthonygetting into some topics that I

(51:22):
like.
I like a lot of Anthony'sinsights on things, because he
didn't read someone else'sopinion and then form his
opinion off of that.
And then form his opinion offof that.
You can tell he sat in histruck watching videos all day
and actually thought through hisopinion first before he spouted
it.
There's a lot of guys, man,they'll read one book, and that

(51:43):
is now my opinion too.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
It sounds good.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Listening to them, go back and forth about some
things and then Wagner givinghis insight and kind of like the
background on some stuff.
It was a little bit of a hardlisten but especially if you're
a new listener that was probablya real hard listen last night.
If you don't know the deep loreof avoiding Babylon, that was

(52:13):
probably a really difficult oneto follow.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
You know, the shows with guests are hard for me
because I'm one I'm busy dealingwith all the back-end stuff,
all the chats, the comments,getting videos ready, things
like that.
So if I'm not listening, if Iconcentrate on something else

(52:41):
for 10 seconds and miss what theguest said or what Anthony
asked them, it just kind of putsme out of the conversation
right away.
Just my temperament like I.
It takes me a few minutes, notnot minutes, you know, seconds
usually, but it takes me alittle time to consider
something before before I say it.

(53:02):
Um, so it shows with guestsit's hard, unless it's a guest
that I know super well thatwe've had all the time, like
hitchborn, you know, joshuacharles, um, cavassos, things
like that.
I, I, I know them and I canroll with them easily.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, but uh, for me the show less, unless you've had
a little bit of bourbon andthen and then.
That was just me and aunt.
That was just me and aunt yeah,the uh.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
the more bourbon I the yeah the bourbon definitely
lowers that response time I need.
Yeah, maybe I should startcarrying a flask in my EDC.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I don't know what this is.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Water windproof dual arc lighter You've seen the arc
lighters, though right yeah.
Water windproof dual arc you'veseen the arc lighters, though
right yeah.
So I don't know that specificone, but I have a couple like a
dual fuel.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Is that what it means about dual?

Speaker 1 (54:03):
no, it just says two electrical arcs, probably in a
cross I just have two electricarcs.
Okay, yeah, yeah I wouldimagine, I don't know if, like,
yeah, bourbon rob is the bestbourbon.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Bourbon rob turns into sassy rob is what that is
bourbon rob's the stuff thatgets everyone in trouble also
also.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Like I wouldn't.
I wasn't like reallyintoxicated Like I.
I probably wouldn't have drivenjust how to you know prudent
stuff like that.
But like man, once you knowthat I'm in my mid thirties,
like I woke up hungover the nextday.
Man it's horrible, it's bad, itsucks.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
It's sad.
Like I remember when I was inthe Marines we would always have
PTt monday morning but we wouldalways go out drinking sunday
night.
Sometimes I showed up to ptstill drunk, right and um, and
we were.
I would run like five miles andand I'd be fine and like the
alcohol, like I'm just sweatingnow, like I drink half a beer

(55:13):
and not only do I have to get upand pee every two hours, but on
top of that I wake up the nextmorning with like the most, like
I'm only I'm 44 years old, likewhy do I am breaking apart?
I'm falling apart like deathbecomes her right and it's.
It's insane how, just yeah,when did the turning happen?

(55:37):
Was it like a specific age?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
For me, it was literally my 30th birthday.
For me, it was my 30th birthday.
On my 30th birthday, I hadthree drinks.
I woke up with a headache thenext day.
I'm like, really this.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
All of a sudden.
So we used to have a baroutside of m schwab in okinawa,
japan.
It was called whiskey whiskeysomething.
I'll say the rest of it anyway.
Yeah, yeah, sure, whiskeypeters is what we'll call it um,
but uh, they had a competitionyeah, yeah, you know.

(56:20):
Uh, they used to have acompetition.
It was break the seal night anddrinks were and beers were a
dollar.
And then what they do is theyput cellophane on all the
urinals and the and the drinkswere a dollar until someone
broke the seal.
First of all, you don'tchallenge Marines to anything,
okay, because guys were peeingeverywhere other than where they

(56:40):
were supposed to, just to keepbeer a dollar.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
How many guys accidentally drink piss instead
of a beer because people werepissing in glasses?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
There were bottles of beer everywhere with urine in
them.
Guys would just go in thecorner and fill the bottle back
up.
Oh my gosh, all right.
So as far as I think, that'sall I care.
Do you care anything else otherthan firearm?

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Not on my person usually.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Okay, so my firearm is a.
This is a Glock 19.
This is the red dot on it I wastelling you all about.
I've got a TLR X or TLR seven Xon it.
It's got a rechargeable CR one3battery in it.
I only carry a 15 round mag init when I carry it on me,

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because I like to conceal alittle bit better, but I always
carry a.
I usually carry a backup uh 20round mag on me.
It's a 15 with a plus five onit.
Um, and but this thing iscompletely stock.
I've done nothing to it.
It is my opinion Again, this ismy opinion that 99% of people

(58:00):
are not good enough shooters toupgrade their Glock.
There's no reason to put a newtrigger on it.
There's no reason to even putnew sights on them anymore.
Yes, the sights are plastic,but there's a steel core to them
now.
Now, that's only really sincegen 4, I think.
But, um, there's no reason toupgrade anything.
I'm gonna go off.
You are not that good of ashooter, um, now, if you're
shooting competition all thetime and you need a little bit

(58:23):
of a crisper crisper trigger,then go for it.
But other than adding red dot,I've done nothing to that thing,
and I shoot pretty well with it.
Um, but it's in a um, it's at-rex holder holster back before
they jobbed lucas butkin.
Uh, I won't buy anything fromt-rex anymore, um, because of

(58:43):
that.
But uh, I love this.
Now I put a a new clip on it.
I have a discrete carryconcepts clip on it because I
like metal clips better thanplastic.
Especially in the heat inAlabama the plastic will get
loose and there's been timeswhere my holster has come off my
pants because the clip justkind of because it was so hot,

(59:03):
came undone.
But but yeah, that's what Icarry 99% of the time so what I
have 99% of the time.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
So what I have carried recently is a Walder PDP
compact with a hollow sun.
What is it?
An SCS PDP?
I think it's literally madespecifically for the PDP.
It actually PDP.
I think it's literally madespecifically for the PDP.
It actually.
You can see the slide cutsactually carry up into the red
dot, so it sits really nice.
Co-witnesses with the sights.
I like that a lot.
And then Surefire X300U A15-round magazine.

(59:50):
It is a big.
Yeah, it is a big yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
But a nice thing with a light like that, that extends
off the slide right.
So if you have to shove thatthing into somebody, it's not
going to take the slide out ofbattery yeah right, like they'd
have to be really fluffy yeah,they would have to be a big old
parker, right?
yeah, you'd be a big old boy totake that thing out of battery.

(01:00:17):
So if you know, if you'refighting with somebody you have
to pull your firearm, show it insomebody's ribs.
It's not going to go out ofbattery when you fire it.
Because that x300 is keeping adistance.
That's the same thing.
A lot a reason a lot of peoplewill put a compensator on their
pistols now because it does thesame thing.
They keep it from going out ofbattery.
Um, like, I have a MR nine 20with a compensator, uh, and I

(01:00:40):
don't really shoot that thingvery much anymore, but I have it
for that Uh purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
And then, um I I carry a T-Rex um iron side.
Um, like you said, I don't Icarry a T-Rex Ironside.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Like you said, I don't know if I'd buy it.
Do you always carry outside the?

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
waistband.
Basically, yeah, for a fewyears now, for a while I did
inside waistband with a hybridleather on the back and kydex on
the front, but even then itjust I don't know outside the
waistband isx on the front, um,but even then it just I don't
know.
Outside the waistband is, in myopinion, more comfortable for

(01:01:18):
me so I just, uh, I dress aroundit to make sure it's still
concealed I have way too manyholsters as it is, and so I
usually pick something I likeand I stick with it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Um, but, uh, if we got, if you know somebody from
there and they want to send usone to check it out, I'll be
happy to take it out for them.
But like I've got so manyholsters, I've got a drawer for
holsters.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
It's ridiculous I, I have at least two or three for
almost every gun.
It's stupid.
Um yeah, I do have a I forgetwhich gun.
I have a black arch for theybasically have a full kydex
holster with a padded leatherbacking.
Um yeah, really super nice I'venever bought an alien gear

(01:02:09):
holster, believe it or not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
I had one a long time ago.
It was okay.
It was like a pancake holster.
Okay.
All of those are good.
I'd be happy carrying any ofthose I like my.
Walther.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
The Ruger RX-7 is probably going to end up being
the winner of the Glock clones,but the Walther has gotten great
reviews.
The PL-1 is great double action, single action.
I have a Shadow Compact andit's just a nicer version of the
PL-1.
And I carry that thing a lottoo.

(01:02:54):
I love shooting that.
It's just.
It's about seven ounces heavierthan my 19, my glock 19.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
That's really the biggest reason I don't carry it
as much, but I love shooting ityeah I was gonna say like I, um,
I like to carry my beretta, myuh beretta 92x, a lot.
I I carry my Shadow II as wellbut, like you said, when it
comes down to it they're a fairamount heavier.
You know metal frame guns.
So for just average day-to-day,even though I'm a big

(01:03:24):
double-action, single-action guy, all my double-action,
single-action guns are metalframe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
So the Palmer Stryker PDPp is just lighter, nicer to
carry yeah so I go to mass inthe most dangerous city in
alabama, because that's howthey've done all the lat masses.
They put them in the ghettos,right, um, and so I carry 35

(01:03:52):
rounds because we routinely heargunshots from where it mats.
So again, like I said before,have a reason for why you carry
what you carry.
Um.
So the reason I don't buy fort-rex anymore is because of how
they did lucas pocket hisbrothers basically stole the

(01:04:14):
company from him, um, and he isno longer associated with them
anymore, uh, and they'rehonestly a sinking ship.
Uh, they probably won't be inbusiness, very much like
tacticon.
Tacticon's about out ofbusiness too, uh, but t-rex is
about is about to go out ofbusiness because of an entirely
different reason.
They decided to screw over theone guy who made me want to buy

(01:04:38):
stuff from them.
So I have no desire to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
It does sound like Lucas is getting ready to launch
some products here soon, sohopefully he'll have some stuff
available.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yes, taffy Lucas was the.
Lucas Botkin was the one whodid all the shows and everything
.
He's the one that did all theshooting shows.
You know shooting videos andeverything.
But he's got his own channelnow Lucas Botkin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
So, let's see, I think that's it for that.
So I want to go into some offbody carry stuff, okay, um, so
this is a fanny pack, um, Idon't carry it all the time, uh,
but I do carry it sometimes andit has a pouch in the back for

(01:05:37):
my firearm and then in the otherpouches I keep some medical
like I got a tourniquet here,chest seals and stuff, um, and
that's for if I want to carry aknot, you know, like I'm in like
gym shorts or I'm in the beachor I'm at the pool or something,

(01:05:57):
and I don't want.
I want something to put it inbut not have to worry about
being on my waist.
There are other alternatives todoing that.
Uh, ph elster has a the theeidolon, I think it's called
Enigma.
Enigma, is it Enigma?
Yeah, PH PH Eidolon was similarto it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
I don't know if that's the same company, but I
do know the.
Enigma is the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Yeah, so it's basically like a waist belt that
you put on under, and itdoesn't have to be on any type
of, you know, pants or anything.
Be on any type of pants oranything, but the amount of men
I see wearing a fanny pack.
Now they're probably gay, morethan likely, or Asian or Asian,

(01:06:44):
that is true, or Asian orEuropean.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Well, you think gay already.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yeah, we do think gay already.
We're being redundant, but Isee it all the time.
I mean, I've got a friend whoI'm not going to call out, but
he was wearing one on saturdayand he's none of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Um so I'll be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
The point is maybe I'm gay for not wearing one I, I
do have one as well too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Just recently got it, and it was basically for the
reasons you said Wear it at thegym.
Or if I'm in just gym shortsand a t-shirt at home and I need
to run to the gas station realquick, something like that Quick
and easy to throw it on.
Or if I'm cutting the grass.
I could do that too.
You know I could.

(01:07:37):
I could do that too.
The the upside that I like toit is is it allows me to carry a
full-size gun, super concealed,you know, so like I have my
m9a4 um in it and that that's abig gun to uh to try to conceal
otherwise.
But then, yeah, yeah, the frontpouch is all medical Tourniquet
, quick clot, chest seals,things like that.

(01:07:58):
So not something I'd wear everyday, but I think there is a
place for it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yeah, it has its uses .
You just gotta get over thefagginess of it.
And yes, danny, it doessubtract aura.
That is a hundred percent true,but you have to be okay with
that.
See, I have a get out of jailfree card.
I don't worry about how I lookor anything, because I used to
be paid to shoot people in theface, right?

(01:08:29):
Not everybody can say that,right?
So I'm not worried about thatas much.
But yes, it does subtract auraall right, we got a super gen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Let's see what this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
uh, yep, same, actually good.
Some shield.
Yep, love the shield,especially 2.0 eps, nice.
The only issue without thefront knives is, um, sometimes
they get dirty and they don'tdeploy.
I've got a few A buddy of minewho used to work for a company
called Crate Tactical andoccasionally if they're dirty

(01:09:04):
they don't deploy out the frontand I've got to pull them out
and I've got to clean them andeverything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
That's one reason why I stopped carrying my Microtech
out the front.
Um, it's one reason why Istopped carrying my microtech
out the front, because therewere, there'd be times where it
didn't, you know it would justkind of sit here or not fully
retract things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Um, so yeah especially putting your pocket,
I guess, like pocket linen, likethe the stupidest things, just
defeat out the front knives forwhatever reason.
Now I did have a buddy when Iwas the marines who had the
benchmate infidel um, and thatthing wouldn't stop for anything
.
It would punch through a metalgarbage can and in fact he
stabbed himself in the butt withit.

(01:09:40):
I was gonna say that thedownside of that is yeah so he
was just playing with it and was, you know, putting it back in
and and the whole three inchesof the blade went into his butt,
cheek.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Yeah, it was he put he had no idea, he did it
because it was so sharp.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
He just he sat down and there was like a little bit
of a pool of blood in the seatwhen he got up and we're like
what happened and it's becausehe stabbed himself in the butt.
Ooh, there's a lot worse placesthat could have happened, yeah
so what's Gare wearing a fannypack around the waist or around

(01:10:20):
the shoulders?

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I feel it is more secure around the waist.
Like you know, we say off body,but you really think about it.
Like I don't know about yours,but the one I have it's got the
metal clips, you know, like noone is pulling that thing off me
.
It is just as secure on mearound the waist as like a kydex

(01:10:46):
holster on a belt Around theshoulder, though I don't feel
it's quite as secure and I'm not, I don't know why.
Yeah, it's just a feeling Ihave?

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
I don't either.
It's like it's like a, it'slike a seat belt.
Oh, feeling, almost you knowwho is it.
Uh, did you ever listen tomitch headburn?
Yes, comedian, yes, so he had.
He had a skit talking about.
You know, wearing a turtleneckwith a backpack was like having
a really weak midget trying totake you down right, and so I
feel like that when I wear afanny pack, I feel like somewhat

(01:11:18):
like I'm wearing like a seatbelt, like it has just like
inherent feeling to it, you knowyou want to like get off the
back and stuff, you know.
So I always wear it around myway.
Now, when I wear, I always wearit to the side a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Instead of just in the front, because I don't like
that thing, like you know,bouncing in front of me.
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
My wife.
She likes the crossbody bags,so she has a similar fanny pack.
I haven't seen her wear it as across body bag yet, but I have
a feeling she she would.
But she also wears like thebaby up there sometimes too, so
probably not yeah, have you seenthe baby carriers with a

(01:11:58):
holster in it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
no, I don't know how I feel about that as long as
it's in the kind of accessible,I don't think it's an issue no,
it's got the baby right.
And then on the outside is theholster.
It's kind of like the seekerpocket on the vertex bag.
Yeah, yeah, you know, but youdon't know it's there unless you

(01:12:22):
put your hand in the pocket.
True, okay, I might have tolook into, but then you're
treating the, then you'retreating the child as a, as a
you know plates pretty much, andI don't think that's a good
idea.
All right.
So besides the rosary, uh,other spiritual weapons.
I have a, let's see, I have athey're all on my scapular.

(01:12:43):
I have a miraculous metal, asaint benedict and a holy face
cross.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
I think that's it.
On my rosary I have the StBenedict crucifix, a miraculous
medal centerpiece, and then Ialso have a St Benedict medal, a
St George medal, St Michaelmedal and a guardian angel medal

(01:13:11):
and, of course, like I said, Ihave my St Benedict medal, Zippo
.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Yeah, I know Mike from Craig.
I used to shoot with Mike yearsand years ago.
He's now started his own thingcalled Athena Target Systems.
I talked to him a few days agoabout it.
Actually, I told him the firsttime I buy some plates I'll go
shoot them and I'll give them areview on our channel for him.

(01:13:39):
Let's see.
All right.
So let's see what else.
Uh, infants do make horriblearmor.
That is correct.
That's correct.
I would not.
I would not suggest that's likea 1a right that is correct, I
would not suggest it, that'slike a 1A.
Just imagine what does it makeit past my filter.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
There is a terrible joke.
I'm thinking of that.
It is funny, but I'll tell youoff the air, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Tell me after no, no, no I cannot say this one.
So next thing, I carry this inmy car.
This is just my off back.
I've got two turn kits andstuff.
This is one I built myselfyears ago back when I was still
a working paramedic.
Um, I have this and I haveanother one in the car.
I actually have two more in thecar, but one is like a chinese

(01:14:26):
m1 that's just like for boo-boos.
Mostly it's got like a chinesetourniquet that I'll never use
unless I'm like strappingsomething to the car or
something.
But, um, look, we're gonna do amedical class next week.
We have a special guest comingon to help us with that one.
But I highly advise to have anifac and know how to use it to

(01:14:46):
have an IFAC and know how to useit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Yeah, I have a vehicle med kit in each vehicle.
It'll be interesting to seewhat our guess is next week,
what they should includecompared to what I have in them.
Trying to think what else Ihave here, the only other things

(01:15:17):
I have are different.
Different like firearm optionsfor different like scenarios.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I'm looking up that Rma 11.
Are these ceramics?
Yeah, they're ceramics.
Are these the one they're doingthe deal on?
They're always doing a deallike buy two for like 400 bucks.
Are those it cole?
Let me know in the chat I'vegot ceramic ceramic plates.
I actually got two sets of them.

(01:15:49):
They had a really good blackFriday sale last year.
I got four plates for like 400bucks.
Yeah, they're always in sale.
Yeah, Get.
If you can afford ceramicplates, do it, but take care of
them.
Don't drop them or anythinglike that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Now, if you if you want something to train in and
get steel plates to train in,get steel plates to train in and
then wear your ceramic platesfor actually protection.
We might have to do an episodeon um on gear like that, like
carriers plates, different chestrigs, things like that.
Um, yeah, so when I, when I'mgoing camping, hunting, hiking,

(01:16:29):
walking through the woods,anything like that, in my
backpack I'll have at least aday's worth of calories for
however many people.
If it's me, it'll be just me.
If it's me and my two boys,it'll be enough calories for all
three of us for at least a day,depending on what I'm carrying.

(01:16:50):
You know what form the caloriesare in.
It might be more than that, um,you know, and then they'll.
Then I'll also have snacks too.
You know that we can eat ifit's not a life death sort of
scenario yeah, so we uh let me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Let me talk about mres real quick.
We'll go over that.
Um, mres right now are supercheap.
Um, if y'all ever listen to tj,james tj, but this runs bear,
independent tj, something I justknow about tj.
Anyway, he had a really goodepisode the other day on his
channel talking about right nowis a really good time to buy
MREs, because they are way overcapacity in a lot of these

(01:17:33):
warehouses.
So you can get a box of MREsfor like 30 bucks right now and
each box is like 12 MREs, Ibelieve.
So you're looking at less than$3 an MRE.
They're also switching out.

(01:17:57):
The MREs are 2,000 calories perpackage.
Okay, so do not eat three ofthose in a day, because that's
6,000 calories.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Unless you're literally trying to survive out
in the blizzard or somethingunless you're up in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Unless you're up in minnesota and you actually need
6 000 calories because you'reshivering to death, then do it.
But other than that, make sureto take a gander at what you got
and make sure you're not eatingcold also, the cold rations
don't come with the, the uh, thechemical heater.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
You have to heat those a separate way.
If you want them warm, youdon't need to heat them up,
really.
But have you tried the firststrike, mres?

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
yeah, we, we first got those in afghanistan, um,
and they were great.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
I liked them they're, they're, they're great little.
Yeah, great little packs forhiking and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Yeah, because they don't need water or anything
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
They're good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I got two more items I'm going to go over.
Okay so, this is a solar panelwith a bunch of little
attachments in here.
Okay so, when I go anywherelike I'm out in my land,
whatever I'm doing um, I canplug this up to something and
charge something.
Um, I can put it in the back ofmy truck and keep it charging

(01:19:21):
and charging while I'm driving,or whatever.
Uh, these things cost like 40bucks and they're way better
than they were like 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Yeah, they work really well these days.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Yeah, they've, they've gotten really good and
it's got all the attachments forwhatever.
I want to plug up, um, but thelast thing I want to go over is
I carry a bear mace in the car.
I carry it in the door because,um, when I drive through
Birmingham and we don't reallyhave an issue with Antifa or BLM

(01:19:52):
or anything as much as othercities might, but I'm real close
to Atlanta too.
I was just in Atlanta last weekactually went to my kids to the
aquarium and the last thing Iwant to do is caught in a in a
John Brown gun club riot and youknow I can't do anything about
it.
That bear mace, you roll downthat window and spray his face

(01:20:12):
there.
You're going to be able to getaway.
So it's a non-lethal capacityto be able to have to not have
to pull your firearm, not to sit, stay around and fill out a
police report or any of that,just so you can get out of the
situation.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
For me, or any of that, just so you can get out of
the situation.
Um, for me, I have a coupledifferent um edc guns that I
will carry depending on thesituation.
Um so the, the like, the, thewalder um fits almost every
scenario.
But um, so for like, if I'mgoing to be uh, um well, with

(01:20:52):
like deer season coming up, ifI'm going to be in the woods
hunting a lot, instead of theyou know the 15 round nine
millimeter, I'll carry a, a 44magnum um outside waistband.
This is a smith and wessonforget the exact model number,
but it's um 44 magnum.

(01:21:13):
It's scandium frame, so it is.
It is light, it's easy to carry, but it's it's.
It's painful, very painful toshoot.
It is one you only want toshoot if you a bear is charging
you down, and you know.
And for ammo, for that I havethe 44 magnum hard cast that

(01:21:35):
will put down a moose if Ineeded to um, so that you know
you got to carry, based onwhatever situation you're in,
you know.
So if I'm not, if I'm notworried about people,
necessarily for a few days, I'llcarry something like this for
animals um, instead yeah, I meanyou got bears up there, so I

(01:21:58):
we've got.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
We've just got waffle house down here, so I'm not
really worried about bears I'dbe more worried about waffles,
to be honest um, I don't know ifI it depends I've seen stevie
eat crazy stuff, so look to workat waffle house.

(01:22:20):
I heard you have to kill afamily member.
So, like, that's not people youwant to mess with.
Um, I would not eat an mriafter like special expiration
date.
Uh, that's not people you wantto mess with.
I would not eat an MRE afterlike special expiration date.
That's me personally.
It depends on how it was stored, honestly.
But yeah, like I used to eatthose things all the time in the
Marines and I really don't wantto eat them now, unless I have

(01:22:41):
to.
We see tray rats, which is likeMREs in bulk, right?
So it's a bunch of likepowdered eggs.
They throw some water in it,put the heater on it and eat a
big tray rat of scrambled eggsand they're horrible.
You can't put enough Tabascosauce on those things.
If that's all you got to eat,you don't really have a choice.
I wouldn't eat them afterexpiration date.

(01:23:01):
That's my personal.
You go for it.
If you got a stomach lined withsteel, have at it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
It depends on the situation too.
If you're legitimately close tostarving and that's what you
have, you'll eat it, but you'renot going to try to put yourself
in that sort of situation.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
There's much better options yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Do I use 10 millimeter for bear or 44 um
either or both.
Yeah, honestly it uh.
So I do have um two 10millimeters.
I have a smith and wesson uh umm&p performance center in 10
millimeter and then also a sigp220 in 10 millimeter.
Both of those will get the jobdone.

(01:23:47):
Don't get me wrong.
Um the uh, the 44 magnum ismore for for moose.
10 millimeter might not put amoose down yeah, we don't really
.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
I mean the.
The biggest thing we reallyhave to worry about down here is
like like packs of dogs, right,but I've got a rifle for that
right especially because I liveout in the country.
People just like to.
They love to drive out to thecountry and just leave their dog
, and so then now we've got anissue with dogs.
That you'll come up, they'llattack my chickens and stuff,
yeah, but you know we have blackbears here, but black bears are

(01:24:22):
scared to death of people.
They are used to be like, youknow, yell, boo at them in the
runaway.
If y you all ever seen thevideos from like Gatlinburg
where, like, the black bears arethere and people just like yell
at them and they run away, youknow, real bad.
We don't really have hogs downhere as much.
There are portions where wehave them, but nothing like
Texas or Ohio.
Texas and Ohio are like theworst places for hogs right now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
So Bobby is right here.
He says you got to get good 10millimeter.
A lot of the mass-producedstuff is basically 40 um and
that's so 40 developed out of 10millimeter.
Because 10 millimeter wasdeveloped by the fbi.
They find it they had a toomuch recoil so they they
basically made a lower power 10millimeter, called it it 40

(01:25:07):
Smith Wesson.
And unfortunately that means alot of 10mm ammo off the shelves
is not as loaded as hot as itcould be.
In my 10mm guns I use BuffaloBore.
It's loaded basically as hot asthe specifications allow, so it
will get the job done.
Mysticy is right.

(01:25:28):
10 millimeters fine for blackbear.
I wouldn't, I would tell thatfor grizzly.
So if you're out west and havebrown bears, um, yeah, 44
magnum's probably where youstart for those yeah, absolutely
.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
All right, I think, make sure I don't have anything
in my bag.
The backpack I carry is anEberle stock.
This is a what do they callthis?
The little trick?
Because this one has a pouch inthe bottom that'll come out so
I can put a rifle in it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
A short rifle like my .300.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Blackout will fit in here so.
I got a notebook.
I'll keep a headlamp.
I've got a write in the rainbook.
I usually use that for therange more than anything.
I've got a fixed blade knife.

(01:26:28):
This is made by a guy in SouthAfrica and this is just for
self-defense.
I don't open boxes with thisone, and the goal of it is to
you grip it with your fist andyou're pulling towards you when
you need to use it.
What's that Lion?
Something I have to look it up.
It makes that.

(01:26:48):
What else do I got in here.
I got some canine provisions,uh, personal water decon kit in
here, nice, um, just in case youknow, because this guy like
antidiarrheal and some otherthings that um some chapstick.
I've got a compass because Iwork like 45 miles.

(01:27:12):
Well, I don't think it's thatlong, I think it's 25 miles now,
but I have a compass in case ofneed for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
And where is here it is Nope, it's not in there?

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Oh, here it is.
Nope, it's not in there, oh,here it is.
So this is.
You know what a seal cock keyis no you ever see on the side
of a business and they have aspigot and it's got no handle on
it yeah that's what this isused for.
Okay, so if I need to getaccess to water on the side of a

(01:27:55):
business, I can use this to getaccess to water.
That's what these are designedfor, so I keep one in bag.
So if I, if something happensand I need to get access to
water and I can't get it, uhanywhere and I see a spigot on
the side of a business building,I can use one of these to turn
on the water and turn it off.
But I think other than that,like the other things, I keep my

(01:28:16):
cause, some of the stuff Idownload from my backpack and
keep it in my car, because mycar, my backpack, goes in and
out with me out of the car allthe time.
But if I'm somewhere and I needto start putting stuff in my
backpack, I've got it in my carto do it.
Like my, my um solar panel, itstays in the car Normally.
If I need it I can put it inthe backpack.
Um, I've got a power bank in mybackpack too and it's got all

(01:28:38):
the cords in it already attachedto it, so I don't have to carry
any extra cords for it.
Um, but a lot of this IFAXstays inAK, stays in the car.
I don't carry it in thebackpack and if I need it I just
grab it.
I've got one attached to theheadrest as well.
But one thing I don't do is Idon't carry a truck gun.
But I also don't have anystickers on my car that would

(01:29:01):
indicate I would have a firearmeither.
I think a lot of guys tend tooutwardly project themselves a
little bit too much um withtheir nra or even like their
marine corps stickers or their,their punisher skull.
Whatever it is right, yes allthat.

(01:29:25):
uh, yeah, I, yes, I have a solarcharging power, but yeah, you
don't want to indicate toeverybody.
Yeah, it's got all the cores inthe back, it's got USB-C, but
you don't want to indicate toeverybody what you may have.
We had we had an issue withthat when I worked in the fire
department in Georgia.
There was some guys that weregoing around.

(01:29:47):
They would get us called out ona call and then they would rob
our trucks while we were gone onthe call.
Um, and they were stealing gunsfrom guys because they're
firefighters.
There's probably a gun becausewe can't have it in the station,
so it was probably in the car.
So they're busting people'scars and stealing our guns.
um, yes, I am judging yourdefund, the ATF.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
So I didn't bring my backpack in, but I do have an
Everly stock bag with my well,right now it's my Flux Legion,
the one based on the 320.
I'm going to get the one basedon the 320.

(01:30:31):
I'm going to get the one basedon the 365 when that comes out,
but that's got that in there,extra mags for that and then an
IFAK as well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
I do have a truck gun that I use while I'm.
Do you carry it with you,though, or you don't leave it in
the vehicle?
This, the truck gun.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
I do leave it't.
Leave it in the vehicle, thetruck gun, you leave it in that.
Well, I have a truck gunbesides this.
So I keep a 300 black pistollocked in a case attached to the
seat frames in my car.
Would I do it if I lived in acity?

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
No, whether it's smart or not to do around here,
I figure there's a far greaterchance I would need it than it
would be stolen where I'm at,and there are ways to conceal
firearms in your vehicle or even, like, lock them down in a safe

(01:31:31):
, but you have to make surethey're securely attached to the
frame, uh, of the vehicle.
Right, so you could do like anunder the seat safe.
Make sure you know it'sattached to the vehicle, not
just you know, and there'ssomebody, just grab it, that's
out.
There's like a big drawer comesout of the truck.
A buddy of mine has that, um,and he's got a rifle in there

(01:31:52):
and a few mags.
And you'd have no ideas there,like because it looks like every
other truck, right, and so, andthere's only and only he can
open it because it's got likesome type of pass gear or
something to it.
But, um, but I don't, I don'tcarry one into my vehicle.
Even if I did, I wouldn't telly'all, because I go downtown a
lot and I don't want somebodysaying, hey, there's a vehicle

(01:32:14):
that might have a firearm andI'm going to bust in real quick
and snatch some stuff.
But if I did, it would be one Iwouldn't mind losing.
It wouldn't be an expensiverifle, it would be like a $500
PSA special.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
That's, yeah, that's what I have.
All right, anything.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
I got stuff everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
It's going to be a phone to clean up after yes, it
is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
I'm going to be in there for a minute trying to get
all this stuff back in my bag.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
I cleared all the guns so I have magazines and
single, single rounds justsitting all over the place here.
Make sure I don't have anythingelse.
I think that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
I don't have anything else to go over.
Do we want to play the videoand then we'll do questions?
Yeah, we do want to play thevideo.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Taffy buddy.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
How much time we got 25 minutes.
I put together a little bit ofa cinematic one.
I'm going to put it on my Xlater so y'all can see it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
I'm excited for that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
All right, so let's answer some questions.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Let's go to.
Well, you're going to needyourself some silver bullets to
kill demons with.
Clearly.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
That's true.
That's 100% true.
Demons only die by silverbullets.
Everyone knows this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Hold on, I got the perfect gun for this.
Give me a second.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Does anybody know anybody who actually thought we
were going to be raptured today?
I don't really associate withany Protestants anymore since I
came back to the faith 10 yearsago.
A lot of those guys were bigrapture guys.
I'm kind of interested to goback and look at their social
media to see if they actuallythought we were going to be

(01:34:30):
raptured today.
Uh, let's see, I'll do this onetoo.
So, yeah, like we said earlierand we're kind of re-answering
some of these, but we'll we'llcreate some links and stuff in
the telegram chat um for y'allto, and none of them.
There won't be affiliate links.
I'm not doing that.
I don't need the money, right.

(01:34:51):
I do this because I love thelove of the game, but we'll put
some links out there for y'allto see some of the stuff that we
have and everything.
This is my Rapture gun.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
This is the hand of God from 310 Yuma.
This thing actually shoots.
What does it shoot?
It's chambered in .357.
It's not a perfect replica,obviously.
It's not cap and ball oranything like that.
This thing is heavy as heck.

(01:35:24):
It shoots .357 like a dream,especially compared to shooting
.357 out of my wife's littleRuger SP-101 super light.
Little thing that hurts, butthis one it feels like nothing.
This thing's fun yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
And that's something to keep in mind.
If y'all have never shot afirearm especially the women, uh
, that may be watching um shoota heavy gun because it won't
have as much kick and it won'tscare you as much, right?
So like, shoot it like a.
I taught my wife on a bread in92, um, and now you know, I I
knew bread in 92s from when Iwas in the marines.
We used to, you know, hammer,tent, spike them with them.

(01:36:07):
But uh, civilian Beretta 92sare much nicer than what I had
issued to me.
They're very nice.
I love mine.
She loves it.
Actually, I bought her one forChristmas this year and I put
some walnut grips on it and sheloves it.
But the first time shooting,shoot something heavy.

(01:36:27):
Don't shoot a little tiny gun.
You're never going to want toshoot again.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Shoot something heavy so it reduces for you I don't
know if this is the fault ofwomen or the fault of gun store
employees, but this is almostlike the first gun or first
style of gun for almost everywoman.
I I know that likes guns andthis is terrible.
That's the first gun it reallyis, even for guys.

(01:36:51):
This thing looks small and cuteand whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
This sucks to shoot, it really does, even 38 special
my wife's first gun we boughtfor her was the ruger lc9 um,
and that thing is horrible toshoot.
You can't hit a thing with thatthing.
It's way too light.
It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Yeah, my wife's first gun was an LCP the first LCP,
and that thing, the way it wasmachined, the metal on the slide
was like you would go to racketand you would cut yourself just
on the corner of the slide.
It was machined so sharp Idon't know.
So then we got like the LCP Maxand it all sucks Shoot the

(01:37:38):
biggest gun you can conceal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Yeah, missy, that was likely adrenaline that was
doing that, because .22s areespecially a revolver, are very
nice to shoot.
You probably just needed to behonest with you.
You just need to have asemi-auto and just dump a mag
first and then shoot seriously.
After that, just get it out ofyour system and just dump a

(01:38:05):
whole entire mag and you don'teven have to shoot anything,
just shoot the dirt, just get itand then shoot seriously.
I have a Kel-Tec P-17, and Ilove it.
It was like $160, and my kidslove

(01:38:27):
it.
I've never had an issue.
22 is is just notorious for onebeing dirty, dirty ammo, um,
and two notorious for jams andfailure to feed and failure to
fire and all kinds of stuff.
Right, I've never had a singleissue.
I've fired hundreds of roundson my Kel p17 with brownells 22

(01:38:50):
long uh lr ammo.
Never had a single failure init whatsoever.
I love and I'll put mysuppressor on it and my kids
love it.
Uh, in fact, my my son alwaysasked if he can go out and shoot
his.
He thinks it's his gun becausehe shoots it so often uh.
But it was $160.
I paid more than that for ammofor all my other guns.

(01:39:12):
Yeah, that's true.
We should probably do a show onbugging in versus bugging out.
Situation dictates.
You're going to hear from a lotof vet bro guys with an acronym
called METTC, and it'sbasically just a way to say it

(01:39:34):
depends on the situation.
Okay, if I was living in a highrise apartment in downtown
Atlanta, I'm bugging out.
I'm getting out of the city.
If I can, I'm at least gettingto the suburbs.
Yeah Right, out of the city, ifI can, I'm at least getting to
the suburbs.
If I'm in suburban Alabamasomewhere, probably bugging in,
that's where everything I haveI'm comfortable with that.

(01:39:57):
I probably know my neighborsand we're much more likely to
help each other out because weknow each other.
But I don't have either ofthose.
I have a get home bag.
I have a bag that I have set upto make sure I can get home,
cause I'm the one that leavesthe house for work.
My wife and kids stay at homeall day.
I want to make sure I can gethome.
We're not going anywhere, right?

(01:40:17):
So maybe I have a bug in bagand I don't know it, but, um,
I'm not going where I'm.
My goal is to try and get backto my family.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
Yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm.
I'm pretty much the same.
So we, we live in a small town,1500 people, um, we're a little
unique because the area we livein is a kind of a tourist spot
for vacations and, um, outdoortrips, things like that.

(01:40:47):
A lot of people have cabins uparound here.
So, yeah, my bag is, like yousaid, a get-home bag.
I would make sure to get homefirst, get settled, but then
maybe, after a period of time Idon't know how long exactly
there would be a lot ofproperties around here, secluded

(01:41:10):
properties that would have noone at them, right, because in a
real like long-term emergencysituation, people aren't going
to make the four or five, sixhour drive from wherever they
live up to their small propertyaround here.
So there'd be a lot of space toto, to go to, I guess yeah, and

(01:41:33):
nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
We'll do it more in a more detailed show, but like it
was, it was basically the uhptps of most preppers that they
were going to bug out to theforest and they were just going
to hunt and camp until, like,society became civilized again.
Right, and the thing is is mostpeople are going to do that, so
a good but it, which it meansyou're going to have no game to

(01:41:56):
shoot anymore.
You end up shooting each otherfor things.
But, um, a good book to readabout is called one second after
by william fortune.
Um, and then he's got like oneyear after and all that.
But he really goes into a lotof the issues that a lot of
people don't think about.
Another one, or uh 299 days byglenn tate.

(01:42:17):
It's a whole series and his ismore about a slow collapse and
that's more what we're in rightnow than anything you know, and
that's probably a little bitbetter.
Another series of books is byAngry.
American what are they calledGetting Home, something like

(01:42:37):
that?
Those are some good ones, man,I read a lot.
What do you want me to do?

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
I can't wait until my kids are old enough where I can
read again.
They're at that age where, one,they don't really allow the
time and two, they also aretearing books out of hands and
ripping pages.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
You know, I'm going to think I'm going to do because
I think on Fridays I'm justgoing to do like a quick episode
by myself.
I might just throw it up on onX or something like that week's
like Intel insights of thingsgoing on 20th a alert was put

(01:43:26):
out that the IRGC basically toldall of its sleeper cells
everywhere throughout the worldto go ahead and activate and
start taking care of business,right?
So all the police departments,those of you who don't know, I'm
talking about the IranianRevolutionary Guard.
Yeah, so like the Quds Force andstuff, and that's in response

(01:43:50):
to when Trump killed Soleimani,who was like the Quds Force
general.
He was basically responsiblefor all the terror that Iran is
responsible for the last 20years.
A lot of the terror in Iraq andAfghanistan that was through
Tehran was done basically withhis blessing uh, anyway, there

(01:44:11):
yeah yeah, so there's a fortaffy.
There's another really good bookcalled day of wrath,
unfortunate as well, and it willscare you to death, um, and
just because what it does is itgoes over.
It's a.
It's a little novella.
It's like 120 pages, maybe atmost is it goes over.

(01:44:31):
It's a little novella, it'slike 120 pages, maybe at most.
But it goes over a story ofbasically random terrorist cells
throughout the United Statesthat activate and how they
operate.
And if that were to happen,this country would be in chaos
and all it needs is like 12 guysto do it.
The 12 guys could bring thiscountry to his knees if they did

(01:44:54):
it the way that million Williamand William fortune is based
his book off of, um, a plot thatwas stopped, uh, when they took
a terror cell down, I think inTexas, um, and that's what it
was based off of.
So, uh, it'll it'll scare you todeath.
We read that book.
But, yeah, I might start doingthat on Fridays.
Just do like a quickfive-minute roundup of all the

(01:45:15):
stuff going on.
There's been a lot in the lastweek.
There's been a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
Well, you have access to StreamYard, so you should be
able to use that to record.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
I might just record something just throw it up or
something maybe.
Um, but let's see.
Do we have any other questions?

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
uh, I don't know anything about benelli rifles.
I'll be honest, I don't eitherI've never shot.
I've shot benelli shotgunsright, they make great shotguns,
for sure.
You don't know about the riflesI mean.
Honestly, it's hard to go wrongwith Italian firearms.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I'd stay away from the Mauser .30-06.
Right now, though, I wouldn'tuse that one.
It's probably in bad taste.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
Unless you can get a really good deal on one, then
maybe.
Well, you could definitely geta good deal on the 3 right now
can you?

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
well, they uh.
The pawn shop near my house hasone for sale for like 180 bucks
.
I thought about buying it andjust like taking the firing pin
out for later on and maybe, likethey'll, they'll do a recall
and I can send get a perfectlygood one or you'll have a friend
you're no longer going to befriends with and you put the
fighting pack in it and give itto him as a gift.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Yeah, Give it to somebody I don't like For what
purpose?
Taffy, Taffy's asking bolt orsemi-auto?

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Yeah it depends on what you're If you're shooting
game or you're wanting to shootreally long distance, I would do
bolt Especially suppressed.
Yes, Like I have a, I have aRuger American gen two and I've
got it suppressed.
And I've got a, a Arkin five to25 scope on it and I can it's

(01:47:07):
only got a 14 inch barrel and Ican stretch that thing out to
like 1600 meters what's achambered in 308?

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
uh, six five creedmoor.
Six five okay yeah, six five.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
Creedmoor has all, has everything about.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
It's better than a 308 for long distance shooting
yeah, I have a sig cross and six, five, then I'm gonna suppress
this year for deer hunting.
Yeah, um, if you're sayinggeneral, maybe some hunting not
long distance, not suppressed,because you're in.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
To be honest with you , I would go with the psa m110
yeah, it's M110.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Yeah, it's a 308.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
That's what I would go with.
Yeah, I have, I forget the theSIGs, sigs.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
AR10.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
I forget what they call it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
I've got a few guys I know who have bought the PSA
M110 and they're surprised athow well it shoots.
They're shocked.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Good bolt gun is the best.
If I'm not fighting, need fastfollow-ups, I'll pick a bolt gun
.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Yeah.
If I'm taking measuredlong-range shots.
I'll use a bolt gun all day,every day.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
Yeah, that's what it is.
That's what it is.
The 716 tread.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
So Monday we've got MED, that's the 29th, right?
Yes, so then the next show willbe october something.
So that's when.
So that first show in october,we're gonna reveal some real,
real something to y'all so y'allcan kind of engaged in some

(01:48:59):
things that we're doing.
Um, uh, but if y'all have anythings you want, like the bug in
, bug out, we'll probably do ashow on that and I might get
somebody on who knows a lotabout packs specifically.
I used them a lot in theMarines but I'm nowhere near an

(01:49:20):
expert.
I mean, I I used to pack themhorribly and they hurt my
shoulders so bad till I learnedhow to properly pack it back,
pack it back, pack it back, butnow properly, we'll weigh it
down to where it's much morespread load.
It's not as bad, but we'll dothat.

(01:49:40):
But other than that, I gotnothing.
You got anything you want tohit before?

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
we get out of here.
Someone asked if we likeMossbergs over Remingtons.
Once again, it depends on whatfor I like the Shockwave.
Yeah, the Shockwave.
For self-defense purposes, Iwould say Mossberg probably.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
Remington had really bad quality control issues for a
while.
What was their Shockwaveknockoff?
Remington had really badquality control issues for a
while.
Yeah, because what was theirshockwave knockoff?

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
I forget.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
And it was horrible.
It was failure to feed all thetime, especially for pumps,
which is really hard to do on apump shotgun and the shockwave
was much better than it for along time.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
But, as I understand, since Remington has been bought
, uh, they've gotten a lotbetter um, I mean also like uh,
berettas have their a300 umultimas, those are great
self-defense.
Um the nalia, of course, hasthe the uh the m4 right, or M4,
right, or is that the M2?
Or is it both?

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
The M2.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Army and the M4 Marine.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Maybe I didn't use a shotgun in the Marines so I had
to look it up.
That was more of a breachertool than anything.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
Yeah, the older Remington's, yeah, yeah 870s's,
I mean for trap.
I use a Browning for birdhunting.
I have a CZ double barrel, soit all depends on what you're
using it for but you get a niceover under.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
You can get a Turkish over under for pretty cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
The wife uses, I think, the brand name is you get
a nice over-under.
You can get a Turkishover-under for pretty cheap the
wife uses.
I think the brand name isPointer, but yeah, it's made in
Turkey over-under.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
You can get a.
Yeah, turkey does some crazystuff with some firearms lately.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Their whole firearm industry is really German in
origin.
Oh yeah, All the Germancompanies set up machine shops
and manufacturers there prior toWorld War, I you know, when
they were allied.
So that's why, like you know,your conics are basically Walder
clones, because it's Waldermachining, Walder tooling, all

(01:52:02):
that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
I had no idea.
I had no idea.
I used to have an old WestGerman 226.
You used to.
Yeah, it was actually an issuedfirearm.
To who was it?
It was like Georgia StatePolice or something.
I can't remember who it was.
I didn't know what I had at thetime.
I was dumb.
Was it in 356?

(01:52:27):
It was like georgia statepolice or something?
I can't remember who it was.
It was you sold it.
It was in 350.
I didn't know what I had at thetime.
I was done.
Was it in 350 sig?
It was in 357 sig yeah, that'sI.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
I guess I I wouldn't blame you for selling that just
because you're never gonna findammo for the thing, ever, no, I
mean I wouldn't sell it now.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
It would be I it If I knew what I had then.
I had no idea.
I was so dumb.
I don't sell firearms now.
When my dad died I got all hisfirearms from hunting and stuff.
All his buddies keep calling mebecause he's got an old
10-gauge shotgun that they allwant.
They're all trying to outbideach other for it.

(01:53:05):
I haven't heard from him in ayear but I think the last time
the bid was like 900 bucks forthe shotgun.
Really, yeah, and it's like,it's like you know, it's not in
great shape.
We'll just say that.
But yeah, I'll never sellanything.
I'm like what's the reason?
Why would I need to sell?
It is to give to my kids oneday.

(01:53:27):
Everything Watches, knives,guns, fanny packs Maybe not the
fanny packs.
My boy would wear a fanny packright now if I let him.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
My six-year-old would love that You'd think of the
rocks he could put in that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Yeah, I don't do Kindle anymore.
Well, I'll take that back.
I've been on Taylor Marshall'slike every one of his launch
teams, and he sends all his outat PDF and that's pretty much
the only thing I use my Kindlefor anymore.
But yeah, real books are.
There's nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
No one wants to snuggle up on a couch with a
coffee and a PDF wants to, tosnuggle up on a couch with a
with a coffee and a pdf.
So I I when I read it generallyis ebooks, um, because it's
easy to keep me wherever, keepwith me wherever, and I never
know when I'm gonna have time to.
The kids can't rip it or spilljuice on it or or things, but

(01:54:24):
what I do do is, anytime I I buya book to read on on kind or
whatever, I also always buy thepaper version too.
Fanny packs.
I thought contraception wasimmoral.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
You'll see in the movies.
You'll always see the guys inthe Marines and they have these
really thick Coke bottle glasses.
We call those BCGsgs birthcontrol glasses um, because
those were the glasses.
You had to wear those becausethey, like you, couldn't break
them, true?
But yeah, those guys weren't.
We're not having any successwith the ladies on the weekends.
All right, I think we're gonnawrap it up, because we'll just

(01:55:05):
sit here and we could do thisforever.
You'll do that Midwest goodbyeand I'll do an Irish goodbye and
it'll be horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
I'll still be talking and you've been off screen for
10 minutes.
I'm not even here anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
Just see the background.
Hear me messing with those damnchicks that won't shut up.
Alright y'all, until next week.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
Yeah, let me end it here, thank you.

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