Head on a Swivel - Situational Awareness 101 - Guns 'N Rosaries Ep. 3 - Avoiding Babylon

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Speaker 2 (00:00):
The middle children of history, man, no purpose of
place, you have no great war, nogreat depression.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm great was the spiritual war with the way

(00:43):
people are talking aboutmigration and all these other
things.
And you know, of course racismis always in your face and
personally I think you know it'skind of on a spectrum.
You know I consider it to besituationally aware.
You know like your situation.
You migrated here from Mexicoand you know you've been living
your life since.
I'm from Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I guess I'm not as situationally aware, as I
thought I've never heard youspeak before what is going on.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Hold on there we go, you like it's all small, no.
Well, yes, but have y'all everseen Kingpix Media before?
He's hilarious.
I'm going to have to follow him.
That was funny.
Yeah, he's really funny.
So he was a I think he was acook in the army and so now he's

(01:40):
got out and he does all thesevideos and he acts like he owns
a training company, combatstudies group, something.
He changes the name all thetime but, uh, he has a shirt
that just just says wins chow,because that's like when you're
in boot or you're like rightafter boot and you're in your
school, that's the only thingyou worry about.
Wins male, wins chow.
It's a.
It's a great challenge.
He's hilarious.
Sorry, we're a little late.

(02:01):
My uh, my internet was a littlewonky.
Uh, and yes, in.
In fact, we are out ofreconstruction now.
Just so you know, we have Wi-Fiand running Wi-Fi.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
That's a perfect time for his Wi-Fi to go down again.
You cut out right as you saidthat.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
It's horrible.
So my internet, like I have a,so I have fiber to the house,
yeah, and then I have mesh fromthere and it's kind's horrible.
So my internet, like I have, soI have fiber to the house, yeah
, and then I have mesh fromthere and it's kind of like a
daisy chain.
Where I'm at now, I'm at thefarthest part of my property, in
my shop, and so sometimes theinternet gets a little crazy out
here, but it's been the moreyou keep avoiding babylon,
separated from your normal life,the better yeah, my you know my

(02:46):
, uh, my son he goes.
Are you going on that, avoidingbaby lawn again?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
oh, no baby um, it's from king pics media on
instagram.
King p-i-x media he's good.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Another good one is a veteran, with a sign that that
guy's hilarious too.
You'll see some stuff on therefrom from him occasionally.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
As we keep going, I'm gonna send y'all all the really
inappropriate videos for y'allto watch all the, all the videos
we try to save you fromwatching by doing the show we're
just going to feed we're justgoing to you, yeah, yeah, we're
just going to immerse youdirectly into them.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Avoided baby loan.
Avoiding baby loan.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Um, the only thing I want to bring up before we get
into the meat of the show is, asof this morning, we are three
sales away from hitting 100sales on our Protect Catholic
Kids shirt that we came up withto help support the parish and

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victims and families of theAnnunciation school shooting.
Uh, victims and families of theenunciation um school shooting.
Uh, we were only like $20 awayfrom hitting a thousand dollars
that will be donated.
So all the proceeds from thesale of these shirts will go
directly, uh, directly to the,the parish and the families.
And, uh, I just got the shirtsthat I ordered for my kids and

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so, um, so they're gonna berocking that and I was actually
wearing wearing one of mine this.
Uh, it was on saturday when weum, where we live, we have to
drive an hour to to do anythingshop, get haircuts, anything so
we, we I took the boys to gethaircuts and we went out to
breakfast afterwards and thecashier, who was probably a late

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teenage girl, saw the shirt andloved it and asked where to get
it.
So that was pretty cool to seeactually.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Cool, it's almost $1,000.
You have to do it like $10 pershirt, right?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
It depends on the shirt.
Like the kid shirts, there'sonly like six bucks of of profit
on those that are going to bedonated, but on the adult shirts
about ten dollars of the priceof that shirt will go directly
to the the victims, and then therest is just the cost of
producing the shirt how is thisuh vendor been for y'all as

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compared to the last one?
So we switched to this almostimmediately.
Before doing this, we had onlysold a few orders before trying
to roll this out.
So I was a little nervousbecause our last vendor,
teespring, was terrible andthere's still people waiting on
stuff they ordered for Christmaslast year.

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They can't get in contact withthem.
They can't get in contact withthem, I can't get in contact
with them.
They owe us $500, and we can't,like I said, I have no way of
getting in contact with them.
Unfortunately, this vendor sofar.
I got my shirt in two or threedays.
The kid's shirts took a littlelonger, probably four or five

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days, but so far, far so good.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Good, I know I ordered, like on that last
vendor y'all had, I think Iordered the Marys your Personal
Intercessor shirt.
I never got it Now, like theydidn't ever draft my account
either, the order was so atleast I wouldn't add any money,
but it was I never got because,to be honest with you, I'm only

(06:30):
going to wear that at the gym.
Um, I don't, I don't reallywear t-shirts out other than at
the gym or around the farm, likeI'm gonna get dirty.
Um, so I'll wear it at the gym,I'm sure, because I live in
baptist alabama, so I'm sure Iwould get some some looks at the
gym.
Uh, I get some looks now, causeoccasionally I'll wear, like my
trips to St George shirt orsomething.

(06:51):
Uh, I guess you know some guyswill, you know, ask me what
stuff is like.
I've got like a water bottlegot all kinds of stickers on it
and, uh, and what is that flagwith the heart on it about?
It's a good time to evangelize,but it's also a good time to
figure out who's the angryProtestant and who's not.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, I wore my shirt under a sport coat to Mass this
weekend.
This weekend and then aftermass we do a lot of our shopping
because when you drive twohours to the you know to the
nearest like decently sized cityto go to mass, that's usually
when you do your shopping too.
Um, so I took the sport coatoff and wore just the shirt

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around the stores and stuff and,like the city we have our tlm
in is a very, very, very, veryliberal city.
So, uh, I was interested to seeif anyone made would make any
comments, but no one did so.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
How's that drive with the kids for jurors, cause I'm
sure they're going nuts?
Do you have like a TV orsomething for them to watch, or?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Uh, so they all get very motion sick If they look at
anything besides out the windowlike you have no rear facing
ones.
We have, well, just the infant,the newborn, Otherwise my kids
could not do it.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Rear facing Cause they got motion sickness.
It was bad.
I remember my boy.
He ate like five of those likeMandarin oranges cups.
As I was taking my daughter toschool, right and halfway up all
it was is nothing but likemandarin oranges down his shirt.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
My brother, you're not allowed to eat mandarin
oranges, no more no you knowthat, yeah yeah, we've, uh,
we've had to move all our kidsto front, facing ahead of the
supposed schedule for that exactreason, the motions that can
trust me.
There's one time it wasprobably four to six weeks ago I

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went to Mass by my well, not bymyself.
I went to Mass with my daughter, mina Hope stayed at home
because she was very pregnantand not feeling well.
So I'm like, well, I'll just.
And the boys were at my mom's,so I'm like I'll just, and the
boys were at my mom, so I'm likeI'll just go to mass with mina
and um, me being dad didn't packextra clothes and of course, we
got all the way there.
We were 10 minutes from mass, um, and she threw a ball all over

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herself.
So, uh, yeah, we didn't quitemake it to mass that day.
So, yeah, overall, driving thatfar with now, four kids to mass
, man, it's, it's a pain, itreally is, but I mean it's worth
it.
Um, but man, it is tough.

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It's one of those things whereif I didn't believe it was worth
it, we would not be doing it.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah, we drive 45 minutes to Mass and it's I
mean, it's a hassle and we'reinvolved in everything, right,
because we have flag football onthe weekends there and stuff,
and we're there for every feastday.
You just have to be willing tosacrifice a little bit of time

(10:13):
of your Sunday to be able to dothat stuff.
Am I coming in broken andunreadable Every once?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
in a while, but it's not super terrible.
Anthony wants to know when myflight is tomorrow, because him
and I are going to Detroit tohave some literal, actual
business meetings about thefuture of the channel.
Anthony, I have to leave myhome at 1.30 this morning, so by

(10:41):
the time we get off here I'mgoing to sleep for about four
hours, wake up, get in the carand go to the airport.
Can't tell if Adrian's verystill.
Adrian, adrian, adrian, well,adrian's out.

(11:15):
Well, what?
The?
Oh no, no, no, what do, you dowhat is going on here wait?
you're gonna leave at 1 30 yeah,so my flight starts boarding at
4 40.
I want to get the.
Our airport's super small.
It's four gates.
There's gonna be 50 peoplethere, so I'm not gonna get

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there like the two hours earlyyou're supposed to.
But, um, but I I do have to.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh, no, no no, I'm just popping about five seconds,
uh, but I gotta.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I gotta check a gun and you know luggage.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
So I want to get there an hour early and it's a
two-hour drive to the airport,so I still gotta leave my house
at like I still gotta leave myhouse at like um 5 15 like it's
because to get to la guardia isum like if it was no traffic.
It's a 40 minute ride, but atthat time if I don't leave at
515, my flight's at 650.
But if I don't leave at 515,I'll never I'll be late for my

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flight.
So let me tell you somethingDetroit may suck, but where
we're going does not suck.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh, I saw the pictures, man.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
It looks pretty freaking nice so.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I went and bought a gun just to show off.
This is a little bit like awoman.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
The last time I was in Detroit was I actually went
to a church militant event thereback in like 21.
Wow, before we all found outthis.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
No, it was way after that it was way after that.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Wait, rob was about to admit that he bought a gun
because it matches his outfit.
I think so.
So it's see, adrian, thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So we're going to a really nice place and, like you
know, aunt and I are not suitsort of guys, but like I, I'm
bringing some sport coats towear just in case, so I figured.
I'm not bringing a suit, theybetter not want me in a suit I'm
sure they just want us tobecause, like the full, but I'm

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not wearing a suit like it'sright no, but I'm like what kind
of gun would, would work with,you know, a suit, jacket, a
sport coat in a very nice place?
So I bought a walter ppk areyou?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
are you checking that through?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
tsa, yes, well, I'll be with you, my brother I know
okay, but here's the thing and Ithought about too, because it's
not a cheap gun, right, buteven my cheapest gun, with the
optic and light I have on it, ismore expensive than the walter.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
So well, the problem with checking with tsa is you
know the rules better than theydo.
I know like it's like they.
They get no, pretty much.
They just throw them on theline and give them a uniform.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
How was it going to North Carolina, Rob?
Was it difficult or waseverything flawless Getting
there?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Fine, no problem.
The problem is getting homebecause, just like on this
upcoming trip, I'm going to gethome about.
I'm going to land about 1130.
It's going to be the lastflight into the airport before
they close for the night.
Coming back from North Carolina, I was at the back of the plane
so I was one of the last onesoff the plane.

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Apparently they so Delta has apolicy.
They have to hand you someone,physically hands you the bag.
They can't put a bag with a gunin on any of the conveyor belts
.
So it's kind of nice becauseyour bag's not getting thrown
around as much.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
So they keep it on the plane, they keep it not in
the luggage compartment.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
No, they keep it in the luggage compartment.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh okay, they can't put it on the conveyor.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Right, it's got to be carried by hand.
The problem is, since I was thelast one off the plane and it
was the end of the day and therewas only 30, 40, 50 people on
the plane, my bag must have beenthe first one off and they hand
carried it off to baggage and Iwasn't there to claim it.
They put it in some back officeand everyone left for the night
.
So I found the security guard.

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I'm like you guys have myfirearm stored somewhere in one
of your closets.
I'm sure you don't want itthere, so can you go find it?
And it took about an hour of mewaiting there in the middle at
the.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
In the middle of the night were you able to get a a
seat towards the front on theway home yes, I would be one of
the first ones off the plane toprevent that.
Okay, that's why your ticketwas $4,000.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
It was not $4,000.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Stop it.
You booked first class.
I was thinking about upgradingmy flight and I'm like I don't
know if it'll show up on thereceipt.
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I don't want to hand the receipt to you, first class.
Well, you already sent him thereceipt, so now upgrade it send
him the receipt.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
So now upgrade it.
Oh yeah, yeah, but then I gottapay for it.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, he's gotta pay for it are y'all gonna go to the
strana?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
st joseph?
No, I don't think so, man, yougotta make a special trip for
that I mean, I don't know, we'renot in church.
Like they're gonna pick us upand drive us to there ain't no
way they're gonna let y'all cometo detroit and not take you all
there.
We have no idea.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
It's a very jam-packed schedule yeah we
might be able to slip some stuffin tomorrow rob, that's the
thing like because it starts atthe.
The events start at like fiveright yeah, like we might, but
we'll see.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I don't know.
I talked to nick today where,uh, he's getting in a little
later than us, like I think allday tomorrow's gonna be like
travel, everybody getting thereand stuff, so I'm gonna let you
guys run.
I just wanted to pop in and sayhello and um, yeah, rob,
looking forward to see you againtomorrow, man yeah, should be
fun and I'm bringing maddie yeahyou're gonna hang out with
maddie.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So, by the way, by the way, I I'm like I'm.
I told dan I was gonna bringmaddie.
Aunt was talking with dan aboutall the travel arrangements,
because that was before I gotDan's number, but I don't know
if Ant told Dan about Maddie, soI texted.
Dan today.
Yeah, I found that out, Ididn't know.

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I suppose it's all fine.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, I'm sure I mean somebody else is bringing their
spouse.
You know it'll be fine.
You know it'll be fine.
Yeah, it'll be fine, yeah, allright.
So all right, you guys have agood show, man.
Uh, enjoying what you guys aredoing here, I'm a big fan.
Thank you, keep it going.
I'll see you guys.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
See you, Adrian.
I mean, he needs it to be abouthim.
I get that.
I get that.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
It is his therapy.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
It really is.
It's super cheap compared tohow much it is to actually go to
actual therapy.
I've got a buddy who's acounselor and he only caters to
Catholic men and his schedule'sfull all day, every day.
Yeah, he's got so many guys.
He's not cheap.

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People are paying it.
I guess if you ain't got a momor dad to listen to, you have to
pay somebody else to do it.
Yes, you buy a gun to match theoutfit.
You don't buy an outfit tomatch the gun.
That's not how that works.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Very true.
That's not how that works.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Very true, yeah, yeah , that's how it works, sorry.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, and that's because, as men, we're not
trying to justify buying outfits, we're trying to justify buying
guns.
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
You take every excuse possible.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, absolutely.
Why would you not?
As my dad used to tell me,there's no justifiable reason to
ever sell a gun.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think we should modify that.
There's no justifiable reasonto ever sell a gun or not buy
one.
I agree.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
I saw a really good deal on the Canik TTI today.
I was like man if I had anextra $700.
$700?
It's like $200 off.
Yeah, it's like 200 bucks off.
It's like, yeah, it's likeseven, seven, seven, thirty
dollars or something like thatto about you have to transfer
fee and shipping and all thatlike it's.
You're probably you're north of800 bucks, but that's true and
then what optic you can put on.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It would let you.
But like it's good, it getsexpensive, yeah that.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Uh, so I put in that request to do the uh warranty
warranty for my optic.
Yeah, they were super, theywere super good about it.
Uh, but we'll see how it goes,cause sometimes when those
warranties, man, they just likesend you a refurbished one, you
know, or so I'm going to, I'mgoing to check it out and see
what they do.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Um you know, I might not buy that one again.
I don't know if I like theenclosed red dot I have.
Well, so I have two SIGenclosed red dots Not saying I'm
super proud of those purchasesnecessarily.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
And then I have a Trijicon's new RCR yeah, that
one's really nice, I think,because right now on my, my
shadow compact, I have anotherswamp fox on there, the liberty,
something.
I got in the swamp fox for alittle bit, because the problem
with optics is they're all madeby the same chinese companies.
Yeah, right, the trigicon isit's all american made, uh, in

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vortex, pay for it?
But, yeah, you pay for it, butit's quality, right, so it is,
and I've thought about it likemy shadow compact, I think I
want to put the, the rmr hd onit, but it's like 700 bucks,
right, but I'll have it forever,you know it'll last forever.
Um, whereas these swamp fox,like they're basically
disposable, I'm paying like 200,250 bucks for them.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's like a holosun basically, right.
I mean, didn't they prove thatum sigs optics are, are
literally are just holosuns?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
they're all the same.
Yeah, uh, holosun sig, siley,they're, they're all pretty,
they're all pretty much made inthe same factories.
They just, you know, they'rebasically white labeled, right?
You just, they have an opticand you throw your, your
trademark or your logo on it andit's yours right now.
Um so, and it gets that way,especially when it comes to,
like the flashlights, thediminishing returns on how much

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you pay, like up to like you, astream lights, a font, is an
okay flashlight, right?
Oh yeah, there really is.
And so you get into likesurefire flashlights when you,
you just can afford to bewithout that money, right, like,
if you're willing to drop 600bucks on light, you know, go for
it.
If you got the money to do that, go for it.
Right, you're going to get agood quality light, but there's

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not 400 worth of differencebetween a stream light and a
surefire matter of fact, streamlights, personally, I, I like, I
like the way they're a loteasier to activate.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, when you switch on a surefire, like you know
you're turning it on.
Yeah, streamlight you mightaccidentally hit on, but I know
surefires they're a little bitmore rugged too.
Yeah, because it's not evenglass, right, because it's not
even glass, right, it's ceramictechnically is what I mean.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
I mean, it's still glass but it's a hardened glass.
The good thing with Surefire islike that thing will take a
beating Like.
I have an old Surefire Scoutthat I was issued when I was in
the Marines.
That thing's probably olderthan my kids and it's still
going strong, but it's only like150, 200 lumens.

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So it's basically just for thehouse.
I'm not like going outside andshooting across my pasture or
nothing with it.
But you know, you just kind ofhave to determine are you
willing to pay double or triplethe price for five, maybe seven,
8% better of a light, right,you know, if you've got the
money, got the money, do it man,I don't care, it's your money,

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do whatever you want with it.
But for me, I mean, I gothrough my, I drop stuff too
much.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'd rather have something that I can just
replace real quick with 150bucks, yeah, um you know, and it
depends on use case, like gunsI'm gonna, you know, for key
carry out in the woods, huntingum yeah you know side arms or or
camping like yeah I don't wantto bring.
Uh, you know a super nice gunwith a 700 optic and a 400

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purifier out there.
You know I'm gonna be trampingthrough the wet woods and stuff,
but uh, yeah, like my homedefense gun on the nightstand,
yeah, that might get all the fun, fun, expensive stuff if it's
just going to sit in the safemost of the time yeah, something
that you're carrying every dayand you your life depends on it
and your family's lives dependon it, like throw all the gucci
stuff on it right, if you wantto um, but you know, then you

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come down.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Do you actually need a light on a pistol?
I, I like it, um, but you knowI could.
I could be fine without it too,because I have a.
I don't have it on me, but Ihave a flat.
What is the flat stream light?
Was it called?
Um?
Well, I don't know what thestream switch play, something
like that yeah, I have a flatnight core.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean, it's very similar to that 1200 lumens
.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
yeah, it's very similar to that 1,200 lumens.
Yeah, it's very similar to thatright.
And again, those are all madein the same factories and
they're just throwing somebodyelse's logo on there.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
So I'm personally like I have a light on almost
all my guns because for me,where I am in the winter you get
eight hours of daylight.
Like it's dark when I go towork, it's dark when I get home
from work.
So for me it makes sense.
But if you, if you live down inflorida where you don't have
that, that, that huge period ofdarkness- maybe it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
I've used my light more during the day than I have
ever at night, like there's darkspaces, like underneath a
stairwell or in the back of aroom or something, or under a
crawl space or something.
You know, like I've used mylights way more during the day
than ever.
In fact, the only time I'mgoing to use a night or light
tonight is go back to my housefor my shop, because, you know,
we, we had a full moon lastnight, um, and I it's pretty

(24:40):
much almost, you know, likehaving a little bit of daylight,
um, but it's not always likethat.
I'm on the eastern side of thecentral time zone and, like I,
when the winter it'll be dark by4 30.
You know, like the sun's up at7 is dark by 4 30, so I'm not
much better than you are rightdown here in alabama, um, you

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know, and there's a lot of timesI have to have a light.
You never know.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Um the lights.
Definitely, definitely can.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yes, they will.
White light will compromiseyour night vision.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
For sure.
Uh, so it depends on like, itdepends on your use case, you
know, on like a nightstand gun.
I'm not so worried aboutcompromising my night vision.
If there's a home intruder, youknow I want to blast him with
the white light more thananything, um, but you know,
maybe a, maybe a rifle, you know, especially if you have someone

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, if you are someone with nightvision, maybe you don't want it
on a rifle.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
You're going to be there out in the woods that
night I would still have a whitelight on a rifle, even if you
have night vision, um, the.
But the thing is, if you don'twant to compromise night vision,
you know, call it night vision,you know, just basic vision
right at night, um, use redlight and blue light that won't
compromise it.
Like I've got a.
I've got a pencil here, um, andit does red and blue light, um,

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and I use this a lot, and notthis one specifically, but a
pencil here and it does red andblue light, and I use this a lot
, not this one specifically, buta pencil like this in
Afghanistan a lot.
The problem with red light isyou can't see blood Right.
So that's why I use blue lighta lot of times, because it shows
blood real easy.
So if something happens and youneed to see what you're doing,
but you don't want to compromiseyour night vision, you need to

(26:24):
be able to see blood, use bluelight.
But uh, yeah, white lightdefinitely, but again, with a
white light on a, on a rifle ora pistol you're doing it to for
a defensive purpose.
Sometimes you just need to usea light to blind somebody and
and then that'll, you know,dissolve the situation.
But uh, I have lights oneverything, every one of my
rifles, my ARs I'm huntingrifles now and most of my

(26:50):
pistols I do, just because Ilike to have it, just in case.
But I'm not going aroundshining my pistol light to look
at stuff.
I have another light for thatBecause I don't want to be
flagging somebody with myfirearm just to be able to see
around.
Yep, have you all ever read AdamLane Smith's books?

(27:12):
I have not.
It's fun fiction.
One of them I read is In theFuture.
They're like fighting demons orsomething.
It's a pretty fun read.
It's pretty quick to me.
I think I read that thing inlike a day, um, because it's
super easy to read.
But his books are really good.
Adam lane smith is is, uh, heis a novice ordo captain, is he?

(27:39):
He is um, and at least the lasttime I've seen his stuff.
He might have changed in thelast couple of years, but he was
solidly very Vatican II, johnPaul II, type of Catholic.
There's nothing wrong with that, because you've got to give
people the benefit of the doubtwhat they're aware of.
But just keep that in mind.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Is he like that in a live and let live way or in an
anti-trad sort of way?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
It's more.
I wouldn't even say live andlet live.
It's more of just like.
It's about how he's obviously acradle Catholic who grew up in
that time.
He's my age, so he grew up inthe John Paul II era and it's
just kind of shaded his outlookand everything and he's never

(28:29):
needed to go to a TLM becausehe's always had the faith right.
It's kind of like you, right,always grew up in a good
Catholic church.
A lot of us did not, that'strue.
And one I grew up in and wetalked about this last time the
priest came out dressed as SantaClaus.
I didn't have that, which makesevery reason for me when I went

(28:51):
away from the faith at 18, itjust made sense If my priest
doesn't even believe becausehe's dressed up as Santa Claus,
of course I went away.
Was Bobby saying does he meanour natural night vision or not?
So white light will get rid ofyour natural night vision, bobby
, as you know.
Um, but you also have a whitelight even if you have nonce.

(29:13):
But you can also have a, aninfrared light, right.
So if you have a laser like uh,there's a company I've been
looking at lately, um, focustrip.
If y'all follow any of hisstuff he's got.
He's been touting sms, uh,which does?
It's called the hsfx, um and itwas originally made for um

(29:34):
airsoft um, but they'veruggedized it to where now you
can put it on an actual rifleand apparently it's fantastic
for the money it's like 250bucks, um, because the laser I
paid like a thousand bucks forit and it's fantastic for the
money.
It's like $250.
Because the laser I paid like$1,000 for it.
It is just a laser.
I don't have an IR illuminatoror anything on it, oh man.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
So, as you know, I just recently got into night
vision kind of.
And yeah, looking at thoselasers and stuff for rifles, man
, that's about as expensive asthe night vision.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah, yeah, night vision is a superpower.
It really is.
Man, you put on night vision,even if there's no moon, you can
still see pretty well.
And I remember, like when Ifirst got it and I showed my
wife because she didn't knowthat, she's like why did you
spend this much money on it?
Like you know, and I try and Itried to explain all the reasons
for it, but she doesn'tunderstand it until she sees it.

(30:28):
And then she sees it, she'slike oh okay, I see why you did
this.
Like.
So now, like if somethinghappens outside, like I've got
my night vision on and I'm goingto find out what's going on, or
my thermals yes, completelylegal no restrictions, there's
just a.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
The price is definitely a barrier to entry,
um, but like adrian said, likein the, it is almost like a
superpower and it doesn't evenneed to be necessarily even for,
like self-defense, like for melike what I said it's.
You know, two-thirds of our dayhere in minnesota in the winter

(31:03):
is in the dark.
So like if something happensout, you know outside, and or
the power goes out or somethinghaving night vision, and it's
better than a flashlight.
Flashlight, you get that conethat you can see night vision,
you, the whole world you can seeeverything you can see
everything.
So I had to go look for a kid inthe middle of the night because

(31:25):
one of my kids got outside orsomething I having that night
vision is would be very usefuland on top of that then you have
thermals, right.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
I that my first experience with thermals was in
the fire department and we had ahandheld thermal device, yeah,
and in if we had a car accidentwe were missing a patient, right
.
So we had I usually had thedriver, engineer somebody get
out the thermal, go, startlooking in the woods, somebody
got thrown from a vehicle orsomething, and thermal.
I'm on the fence on whether Isuggest thermals or night vision

(31:58):
to people anymore, becausethermal is so attainable now and
it's so good, it is cheap, it'syeah, it's pretty cheap, but if
you have the money to do it,then you absolutely should get
either or and eventually both ifyou can, because there is, like
I said, it's like having asuperpower, being able to see at

(32:21):
night, or even my thermal, Iuse it during the day.
If I want to see at night, oreven even my my thermal, I use
it during the day.
You know, if I, if I want to seesomething, uh, for example, we
have a friend who she had one ofher calves get out and couldn't
find it and I just the firstthing I was like she need, they
need to get thermal for whenthat happens, because you can
find it real quick.
At that point.
You're looking for a heatsignature, and, and if you own a

(32:43):
farm you can write it off, sothat works out a little bit
better too.
Um, you know, if you want tostick it to, oh, uncle sam, uh,
write that thing off, but yeah,absolutely, um, absolutely worth
it all right, so let's get into32 minutes into.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
We want to get into the topic this is.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
It's like anthony was here, he, he threw me off,
threw, threw me off course.
So let's get into situationalawareness, as everyone saw with
the arena.
I'm not even going to attempther last name Incident in
Charlotte.
Do we lose Rob by myself?
What do I do?
That is a situation where shewas not she even coming from the

(33:32):
ukraine, which is a veryhomogenous society.
All right.
She's probably never had todeal with, uh, demographics that
are known much more for crimethan other demographics and, uh,
she wasn't aware of being ableto the requirement, we'll say,
to keep an eye on what's goingon around you, right?

(33:53):
So, um, that other video I gaveyou Rob, the one, the other
Instagram one.
When you want to show that onereal quick, yep, let me pull
that up here.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
The um Olga Marie one .

Speaker 4 (34:05):
The one where they're in their restaurant or whatever
.
The other funny one.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Okay, I have it here, let me just get it ready.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Okay, to my left, so good Three.
To my right, I can take them,two big dogs.
They're on the lead, so good,two guys to my left.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
So good, that is a hundred percent what happens
when I'm out.
I'm sure when you're out, rob,you know we're constantly
looking around.
We're constantly keeping an eyeon who's around.
Who's wearing clothing thatshouldn't be worn at this time
of year.
We never sit in a restaurantwith our backs to a door because
you don't want somebodysneaking up.

(34:58):
My wife and she's gotten to thepoint now where she
automatically she's like makesure the kids don't sit in my
seat, where I need to be able tosee all the exits.
I never let my kids go to thebathroom by themselves, if
there's an exit by the bathroomespecially, but if they're young
enough, I always, always takethem to the bathroom.
It's sometimes hard to alwayssit with your back to the wall,

(35:21):
depending, because you don'talways get to.
It may not be an option, but aslong as you can sit to where
you can see all the exits rightand keep an eye on what's going
on, you know you should if youcan, but if you can't, you need
to be constantly looking around.
So situational awareness is a,is a is a trained lifestyle that

(35:42):
you eventually, as a manespecially, need to get in in
the thought process of, becauseit is your job to protect people
, especially your family, andmaybe even other innocent people
, um, and so you need to be ableto keep tabs on people that are
around, and it's so and you canexplain it away.
It's just people watching,right?
If somebody's like, why is thatguy always looking around,

(36:02):
we'll just, you know, peoplewatching is a thing.
People go to the, to the coffeeshop, and just people watch,
right, yeah, you know, just sitthere, get a coffee, just watch
it just, and sometimes I'll dothat, you know.
Just, I got some time betweenmeetings or something, I'll go
sit down, just watch people.
We start to get an idea of ofpeople's uh behaviors and their
mannerisms and such, and keep aneye on that.

(36:23):
And what this is all started,uh was by the name, by the guy,
the name of boyd.
He basically put a process tothis, um like triceratops uh, so
boyd put out what's called theOODA loop right Observe, orient,

(36:43):
uh decide, act Um and you'reconstantly going through that
all the time.
You're observing everything,you're keeping an eye on what's
going on.
The orient portion is is isreally the most important,
because it's not.
It's not.
You're like physically turningtowards something.
Right, the orient is likeyou're bringing the orient is
like you're bringing in yourbiases and you're bringing in

(37:07):
your uh learned, uhcolloquialisms that you grew up
with, that you understood, aboutbehavior and things.
If a guy's got his, if he'stalking to, if two guys are
talking and they're starting toget heated and one guy is
keeping his hands down and he'sstarting to ball his fists or
something like he's about totake a swing, right, you're
keeping eyes for these cues.
Those are things that you learnthrough watching it.

(37:27):
Um, and that's the orientposition.
That's where you're.
You're trying to keep abaseline of what's going on, and
then you get into the decisionportion like, am I going to do
something?
Most often, the best thing youcan do is remove yourself from
the situation.
Right, if you're there withyour family, that is not the
time to be getting into a fistfight or a shootout.
You just you're in the middleof a meal and two guys are

(37:49):
starting to get in the fight.
We're gonna throw some money onthe on the table real quick and
we're leaving, right, becauseI'm not.
I've got four kids and my wife.
I can't physically get in frontof all of them, right, I can
put myself between them andsomebody else, but I can't get
myself in front of all of them,um, so the best thing to do is
just at that point is movies,and that's where the act comes
in.
Then you remove yourself fromthe situation, right, um, and

(38:12):
you're constantly having to dothat, uh, and that's a con, it's
.
It's called a loop.
It's not really a loop, it'smore of like a flow chart, yeah,
but, uh, you're constantlyhaving to keep an eye on things.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
They call it.
It's a loop, because you do itfor everything you do and it
goes through that loop.
Yeah, yeah, but I think theysay what it's average.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
What two seconds from the beginning to the end of the
loop yeah, I mean, if you're 70iq it might be five seconds,
but you just need to end, andsome of some of us are not,
don't have the gifted intellectto be able to um go through this

(38:55):
thing very quickly, right?
That's why you see some guys,you know, when you get into a
situation where your parisempathetic jump kicks in and it
used to be fight or flight, well, it's not fire, flight, right,
it's fight or flight or freeze.
I've seen more guys freeze thananything right, for example?
Uh, have you seen the videogoing around of that, the karen?

(39:15):
yes, going after that guy forthe baseball, right?
Yes, as soon as she touched him.
Do you see his flinch?
Right, he's like he's, he'sputting his hands up, you know,
know, which is a naturalreaction.
Right, he's going to protecthimself because he's he wasn't
expecting someone to come at himwith that type of aggression,
right, but he was notsituationally aware.
No Whatsoever, right.

(39:35):
Even at a ballpark, at aballpark where you're having to
get out with 50,000 other people, right, especially at a
ballpark, you need to keep it upas well.
As the people who go to sportsevents are typically very rabid

(39:58):
about their, their teams.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
And there's tends to be alcohol involved.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Right, so that's one aspect of it.
So, but going back to the arena, however you pronounce her
first name, she's Ukrainian, soshe can pronounce it any number
of ways, but she was justoblivious.
She got on.
First thing she did is startedlooking at her phone.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
And I think so many people I mean, I think as a
society we've trained ourselvesthat way.
We tell ourselves that if wejust put our nose down and
ignore everything, thenhopefully they ignore us too.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Right, and that, just it, makes you a victim is what
it makes you, and that's justnot the case with so many people
with these phones, right, andthey're putting them in their
face all the time, they're notaware of what's going around at
all.
You know we don't have thatluxury anymore.

(40:55):
You know we don't live in asociety where you can do that,
where you can.
Just I picked up my phone andmy internet's going crazy
because I'm connected to myphone.
So we don't live in, we don'thave that luxury, one.
You have to keep an eye onwhat's going around, um.
So two books that I want toshow y'all too, so y'all can
just get them.

(41:15):
You can get um.
There's an audiobook of both ofthese if you want to, if you
like listening to it, and, um,if you listen to a book, you're
not reading a book.
So don't tell people if you readbooks if you listen to them, uh
, but one of them is beyond uduuda.
Can you show the?
author's name it's where's mycamera?

(41:36):
There's varg freeborn.
Okay, that's one.
That's a fantastic book that.
That man grew up in a verycriminal household, right?
He witnessed his first murderwhen he was like almost 12 years
old and then after that, youknow, he went to prison for like
five years at 19.

(41:58):
He went in prison for like fiveyears like adult federal prison
, like horrible, horribleprisons, not local jail, yeah,
jail.
Yeah.
Violence of mind is fantastic.
Um, if you ever listen to hisbooks, it's him doing the
audiobook and he'll tell youhe's not very educated so it's
kind of monotone sometimes, uh,and so it's a kind of a hard.

(42:20):
That's why I like reading hisbooks a lot better.
But, um, he goes through Dgetting in the mindset of being
willing to deal with violence,like what the mindset you have
to get into to get to be there.
Cause we're most of us, like youknow in the chat how many of
y'all have ever been in a fightlike a fist fight, more than

(42:42):
just like a child fight where,like you and your brother got in
, punched each other, like afight where you thought like
some serious injury would happen?
I'll be honest, I've never evenbeen on one and most of us,
haven't?
You know?
I have, unfortunately, but um,but you know, but that's.
I chose that.
I joined a job field that thatwas the understanding you were

(43:06):
going to get into, you know.
But most people have never eventaken a punch.
They don't know what it's liketo get punched in the face and
for a lot of people, when thathappens, it shocks them and
that's where the freeze comes in.
If you've never been in asituation like that, it's going
to shock you and then it's fromthere.
What do you?
How do you respond?

(43:26):
And I'll be honest with you Alot of times I've gotten in a
fight.
I did not do the right thingand didn't remove myself in the
situation and I just got into itand gotten in the mud with them
, Right, um, and that was not agood idea, but you know that's.
I'm still here, so I was doingsomething right at least.

(43:48):
But for most of us, even if youget punched in the face, man,
just remove yourself from thesituation, take the and get out
of it.
Right, because you one jason'sgonna like this segment.
Um, my biggest issue withjujitsu is it does not train you
to deal with more than oneattacker, um, and there are

(44:13):
certain demographics that neverfight one-on-one.
That's why it is imperative foryou to remove yourself from the
situation, because you'rethat's not going to be the only
person you fight.
He's going to have friends thatjump in.
When I was in Okinawa, we usedto always have to roll deep and
roll like five, six, seven guystogether at a time, because

(44:36):
there was cases especially ifyou're if you ever went off
Island and you went to likeThailand or something there were
situations where, if you wereby yourself, you were an easy
target.
We were always required toleave at least two Marines at
least.
Even then they requested threeor four.
You never want to be the onlyperson that's able to help

(45:01):
yourself.
The issue with Krav Maga isthey're all treadmill karate
dojos now able to help yourself.
The issue with Krav Maga isthey are all.
They're like treadmill karatedojos.
Now it's some guy wearingparachute pants with American
flag on, telling you how goodhe's going to roundhouse kick
you.
Krav Maga is better thannothing, but I would not spend a

(45:25):
lot of time in the Krav Maga,unfortunately.
And really some of the bestthings you can do in boxing just
to be able to create distancebetween yourself and somebody
else, but just what you do up inhere does more than anything.
These comments are going crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
I want to get to this more towards the end, so, but
just kind of keep this in mind,like as as you're talking about
things like not being able totake a punch, freezing up, uh,
even just how to observe people.
Um, towards the end, I want totalk like how, how do people
learn how to observe otherpeople, how do people know,

(46:04):
train themselves to not freezeup, to either either fight or or
run Right, so we'll, we'll tryto get towards that towards the
end.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
So let's, let's pull up the arena video that I sent
you.
And we're not going to showwhat ends up happening.
It stops before it gets to thatpoint.
Yeah, and we're not going toshow what ends up happening.
It stops before it gets to thatpoint.
Um, you know, even with thehorrible things I've seen in my
life, I try not to watch thatstuff anymore.
Um, because it's just, it's adevaluing of life.

(46:36):
It's a decent sensation.
Um, you know and you're, I seeit enough just on the farm, when
I have to kill a chicken orsomething.
Hopefully not with a 12-gauge.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Did you see the MRE sale he's got going on now.
No 20% off all chicken MREs.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
He's a good dude and his heart's in the right place,
um, and he does a lot of goodstuff.
He just says some like dumbstuff sometimes.
He he needs a pr got banned for.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
For anyone we're talking about a pnw.
He's a he sells militarysurplus out of, I think,
washington state.
Right, yeah, he's out ofWashington state.
Yeah, he he's very impulsive hedoes something and then thinks
about it 24 hours later.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Yeah, so apparently he had a situation where he had
a rooster that was going crazyon one of his hens and he
decided to shoot it.
I'm like brother, have younever seen a rooster mate with a
hen before?
I don't know how, because he'sgot a bunch of chickens.
So how has he never seen it?

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Which then makes me think I think the rooster did
that and then went on after akid.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah, I mean, but still it depends on the kid,
right like my five-year-old.
If I have a rooster that goescrazy, like I'm gonna get rid of
it, because I've got afive-year-old and she's, you
know, barely at my waist, she'sgonna be a tiny, tiny girl.
Um, you know, and I have gotrid, I had a chicken, uh, for a
long time.
Um, that event, I just, I justI kept trying to excuse the way,

(48:22):
not getting rid of it.
But one time I was out in these, uh, doing you know some farm
chores, and he came at me andwhen I kicked him, his spur went
through my boot and drew bloodon me and I was like, okay, time
to go.
If that's going to do that tomy boot, he's going to hurt one
of my girls, yeah, um, so I gotrid of him.
I just took him out to the treeI call it the killing tree, um,

(48:45):
and I just took him out and tookhis head off.
But, um, you know, it's, Idon't.
I I just wonder, like, what washis chicken doing?
He decided to use a 12 gauge onit, that's, that's, unless he
just like I just felt likeshooting my 12 gauge today, you
know, well, I get it.
I do that too.
I fire off a 12 gaugeoccasionally keep the hawks away
.
You know I don't shoot at thehawks, you know local police, so

(49:07):
you know, uh, but I will shootit in the air and scare the
hawks away.
But it also scares all thechickens and I probably won't
get any more eggs that day I uh,this upcoming weekend is a
gross opener for us up here andI'm so excited we've uh, I won't
get into that, that's gonnathink it's down

(49:30):
a rabbit hole we probably, uh,probably, don't need to get into
, uh, so going through.
So another really good book isleft of bang.
All right, so this is a.
So see, I can see if that'scoming in, good, right, so left
of bang was actually a marinecorps um, combat training that
we had that a lot of us had togo through before we even

(49:52):
deployed, and it was tobasically train you in
situational awareness, um,especially when you got overseas
, right like so, if you're, forexample, on one patrol we were
doing, we were doing the patrolbase that I was at was right
outside of the town.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Marine books, so big print.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
My eyes are good.
That's not the issue.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
They just spelled it all phonetically, guys, yeah,
exactly.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Exactly so.
The patrol base we're at had alittle town right next to like a
little you know streets andstuff in it and uh, there's one
time we were doing patrol andnormally we went through it.
There's people everywheretrying to sell us stuff,
especially kids, like we'rethrowing candy to them, and they
would swarm us all the timetrying to get candy and

(50:43):
everything we threw out.
One time we were going throughand it was empty in the middle
of a normal day and as soon aswe saw that we turned around and
went right back, cause thatmeans there's probably an IED or
something somewhere.
We never and nothing everhappened because we made the
decision to de-ass ourselves ofthe situation.
Basically, right, get out ofthere and go back.

(51:05):
It's because it's not thefirefight we were afraid of.
You can shoot back at afirefight, but you can't shoot
back in an IED.
True, and you know, I've seensituations where they've set up
IEDs in the door and once youcross the threshold it's at head
level and it blows up and itjust decapitates you.
We had a Marine that happened toin my first deployment when he

(51:29):
went into a house and it wentoff, right.
So just keeping.
We knows that was immediately.
That was not the baseline.
The baseline was there, waspeople, always there, and then
this time that was not thebaseline.
So we decided to just removeourselves from the situation.
I eventually find out later thatthere was an id with a.
It wasn't meant to.
It was more or less meant to bea diversion and was meant to

(51:53):
draw us into a firefight, intointo a corridor that would
basically put us into a fatalfunnel, almost like we were
going to be shot at from allsides.
But I found that out like aweek later, you know.
So just keep an idea of thebaseline.
But left of bang, what it doesis you always want to be, and
how?
So how it is on a timelineright, so on one side is normal,

(52:18):
and then the bang happens inthe middle right, and then
everything on the other side ofthe bang is the reaction.
You always want to be to thepoint where you don't have to
react.
You want to choose thesituation you're in and if you
don't keep an eye on what'sgoing on, then you're, you're
putting yourself behind theeight ball.

(52:38):
That's why situationalawareness.
And then we get into with theoodaloo, the different color
codes, right.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
So if you have that graphic, I sent you earlier yeah
did we want to do that beforethe arena video uh, let's do
that real quick.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Let's do the graphic first and then we'll do the
arena video so y'all can kind ofwell, y'all can kind of see.
You know the mindset you needto put yourself in.
So the white is most people whowalk around every day.
They're looking at their phoneas they're walking, they're not
paying attention to anything,they don't see what's going on
around them and they're justreally not concerned.

(53:21):
Then you get into the yellowwhere you're starting to be
aware of things.
You're looking at people.
You're looking at.
You know what kind of clothesthey're wearing.
Do they have a bowls on theirbelt?
You know you're looking for.
You know if there's a firearmor something there.
And then you get into the orange.
You recognize you're in anon-permissive environment.

(53:42):
You're on a publictransportation where you might
be the only one there that's notmelanated and you need to be
hyper aware.
Something could happen Right.
And then you get into red where, like you, something absolutely
is about to happen and you'reprepared for it.
Do we leave?
Do I don't have an option toleave?
If I don't have an option toleave, do I need to an option to

(54:04):
leave?
Do I need to now go into theblack, like I'm going to be in
the fight.
I'm going to have to dosomething.
I'm going to do whatever I haveto do to get out of the
situation, and that might meantaking somebody's life right,
because it's either you or them.
It's either your family or them, right?
So just keep that in mind as wewatch this next video with
arena um and just notice somethings and I'll talk through it,
cause it doesn't have any soundbut just notice some things

(54:26):
that weren't done and just howoblivious she was.
Okay, all right.
So this is the publictransportation in Charlotte and
it's like any, like if you'vebeen to DC, or if you've been to
dc or if you've been to chicagowith the l?

(54:46):
Um.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
It's pretty standard like you have some yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
So you have some that you know are on the wall and
they face towards the center,which is where you need to try
and sit if you're on any ofthese next to a door.
That way you can get out realfast.
If you don't have the option,you need to stand in that area.
Um, so go ahead and play it andI'll talk through it.
Don't want to pause, okay.
So, seeing all the doors, sonotice everybody's looking at

(55:22):
their phones.
Look at all these people.
So the guy in the red hoodie.
Obviously something's not rightwith this guy.
Obviously he's already.
He's fidgety, right.
He's uh, he's not acting normal, like most people on a public
transport.
They're sleeping or look atwatching a phone, all right.
So this is her.
She's coming home from work.

(55:42):
It looks like I guess I didn'tread the.
You know what exactly led tothis, or if she's on her way to
work I believe coming home fromwork.
Yes, okay.
So she's on her phone, has noidea what's going on, right?
So then he starts behind him,behind her.
He's now, he's making thedecision.
He's going to do something,right, he's whatever his going

(56:03):
through his mind.
This is like his 14th, 15thtime.
Um, he's that he's beeninvolved with the law.
Right, he's pulling out afolding knife, which is a
horrible knife to stab somebodywith, but and then he decides to
just commit some violence.
It's not going to show anything, obviously, uh, but look at
everybody around him.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I was going to say no one has even acknowledged that
he stood up and beginning to act.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
They have no idea and this happens all the time and
unfortunately she bled out.
He hit her right in the neck,Probably hit her in the jugular
and she bled out.
Look at everyone.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
No one has even noticed.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Look at the blood on the ground that's dripping off
him.
This guy notices it.
He's starting to figure out.
Something happened Right.
Then these people in the backLook at all that blood on the
ground.
He's changing his outfit sohe's not as easily recognizable.
Right, all these people arerunning to find out what's going
on.
I just how much let's see.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I just want to look at where she chose to sit.
I don't know what one of thesedoors she comes in.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Yeah, it's hard to tell probably that one right now
where I can't even see him inthat no, but there's.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I mean there's open seat, like you said.
There's open seats where sheshould have sat.
And she went, and actually Ibefore I saw the video, I
assumed he got on after her andchose to sit behind her, but she
actually put herself in thatspot.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
And who knows the demons he was dealing with,
right that he purposely,consciously, probably allowed
himself to be influenced by atthis point.
And then now it's been foundout that the judge who keeps
releasing him is releasing him,is releasing him into a business
that she owns that does therapyand counseling.
so that's a conflict of interestyeah, so that's a conflict of

(58:12):
interest already, um for her.
So hopefully something can bedone about her and get her off
the streets, because, as we'veseen with the, with a lot of the
George Soros DAs they, forinstance, in DC 80, I think it
was 88 percent of the peoplewho've been arrested since Trump
brought in the National Guardthere are being released by the

(58:34):
DAs and the prosecutors Right,so really nothing's happening at
this point.
So these are things that youhave to keep in mind.
So let's play that next videoof the convenience store real
quick.
So this dude was carrying onhis side and these joggers came

(59:06):
in and decided to relieve him ofhis firearm.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
so he's open carrying is he?
Was he carrying just in hispocket or is he having?

Speaker 4 (59:17):
I can't tell in the video, but I think it, I'm
pretty sure it was just visiblyobvious.
So either it was a huge bulgeor is in his pocket or is on the
outside, the waistband holster.
I've seen him where a guy hadone in the small of his back and
he got relieved his firearm andhad no idea.
Right, he's begging these guysnot take, he's not worried about

(59:38):
his life, he's worried aboutthem taking his firearm at this
point.
You know, um, and but he had noidea what was going on around
him.
He's carrying in a horribleposition, right, I, I carry
appendix.
Um, you know, and I can, um,some of our bigger guys probably
have a problem with that.
Um, I do not carry appendix.

(01:00:01):
If you can carry appendix, Ihighly suggest it.
Uh, because you have positiveretention on that Cause, it's in
the front of you at all times.
But if you have to carry it thethree o'clock or the four
o'clock, it needs to be veryconcealable where you can't tell
that you have it.
Yeah, because then you havethis situation right, whereas
these guys come in and justdecided you no longer needed to

(01:00:24):
have that firearm, right, andnow, who knows what they could
have killed him.
They could, and who knows what,they've gone on to use that
firearm for.
Right Appendix is in the frontright.
So I carry my firearm basicallylevel what in the Marines are
called a gig line right.
It's the center point of yourbody.
So on my waist I have my beltline right in the center and

(01:00:49):
that's where I carry, for a fewreasons.
One it's comfortable when I'mwalking around.
I know it's always there.
It's not comfortable when I'msitting down, I can tell you
that, but I'm willing to put upwith that discomfort.
And when I no, do not carry a320 appendix at all or you might

(01:01:09):
eventually be trans yourself.
Um, for for the minute or two ittakes before you, for the men,
yeah, for the ladies, you knowwell we don't get that, but um.
So another reason I carryappendix is, um, as I told you
all before, all the goodfirearms training, especially
pistols, I've had have beensince I got out of the marines

(01:01:31):
and, uh, one of the trainings Iwent to was one it was grappling
on the ground and trying to getyour gun out right, if you got
on your side and you're pinnedon your side and you can't get
it out, uh, that's an issue.
Um, but as well, uh, yeah,bobby, it is the fastest draw,
um, I'm not particularly fast, Ido about a one and a half
second draw, um, but I've seensome guys sub second right

(01:01:55):
pulling that thing out andfiring out in the a zone.
Uh, with this under a second,which is super fast, um.
But or if, like you seecollateral um, see how fat he
carries at the I believe thethree o'clock, but he cares, he
pulls that thing out fast aswell.
If you train yourself whereveryou carry, you can be getting
real fast.
You just, it requires a lot ofrepetition, but when you're

(01:02:17):
carrying appendix and say your,your strong arm goes down right,
so I'm right, right-handed Ifmy, if I get shot my right arm
and I can't use my right arm.
Um, I can't reach my right sidethree o'clock with with my left
hand, right Um, you know justhow I'm built.
Um, I just can't do it, and soit allows me to be able to draw

(01:02:41):
with my offhand and be able tofire from there.
It's a little awkward, but Ican still get to it, and that's
the biggest thing.
Biggest reason I have it isbecause I need to always get, no
matter what I need to be ableto get to my, to my firearm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, I tend to carry it between two and three,
personally.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
If you can get to the point.
I've seen big guys carry anappendix fine, right, um, you
know it's.
If you can get to that point.
It's just like when you firststart carrying, you just have to
get used to it, right, andyou're, when you first start
carrying, you're more aware ofyour firearm than everyone
else's.
That's 100.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
True, yeah, everyone's convinced they're
printing when.
Yeah, anyway, yeah, so itdoesn't matter they have.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
As you can see on that, on that train video,
nobody has any idea what's goingon.
No, um, you know because?
Because then you get into thepoint like, well, if you have to
pull your firearm, where do youshoot?
Well, center mass, as much asyou can until they stop being a
threat, right.
And then just say, when thepolice come and cause, never
talk to the police, never waitfor a lawyer, right.

(01:03:53):
But when you do eventually makeyour statement, I was in fear
for my life and you were.
If you have to pull yourfirearm, that's because you're
in fear for your life.
And and Bobby here, bobby isby,is that a is?
Are they kydex?
I haven't heard of that company.
I haven't either.
Are those kydex holsters?

(01:04:13):
Um, I don't like.
I don't like leather, um,because most leather companies
don't use a stiff enough leatherand the leather can get caught
in the trigger guard and fireyour pistol if you're going to
buy a leather holster.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
It needs to be.
It's going to end up being avery expensive leather holster.
Yeah all of my good, I meanyeah, all my good leather
holsters are twice as expensivethough, but you know, in my
leather holsters are for like my.
Did you just spill?

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Yeah, just splash them in the face.
Just spit in my face.
Yeah, Kydex is the way to gobecause it's stiff and rigid and
you don't have to worry aboutthat.
I have looked at like Falcoholsters for when I carry it
mass.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Because at mass I don't carry that.
This is a cheap Kydex holster,but so Kydex is just a.
It's a thermoplastic um thatthat can be key molded, you know
, around in basically any shape,but so there you can get them
custom for basically any gun,any gun and light combo, though
they they can get.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Yeah, they can get expensive, but yeah, absolutely
um, so with holsters, then youget into the thought process uh,
do you carry an extra mag,right?
Um, there's a lot of like t-rexstarted the sidecar, yeah,
holster where it's the, theholster for the firearm and a

(01:05:42):
mag right next to it.
Unless you're like a thin guy,those are very uncomfortable.
I don't carry like that.
If I carry an extra mag, it'son my belt line.
But you're going to be pushing,yeah, $100 or more for a good
quality holster, but it's aninvestment.

(01:06:05):
Now the issue is, the problem isfor most holsters is you're
going to end up having a bunchof them because, you're going to
one to two for every gun I haveyeah, you're, you're, and it's
just the way, the way of thebeast man.
Um, you just have to be okaywith it, because what you're
carrying on you is thedifference between you going
home one day or not, right?

(01:06:26):
So you need to invest in that,and not only investing in the
money, but the time as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
And it's not even necessarily thinking like that
holster might be.
Whether you live or die in agunfight, a bad holster could
mean you shoot yourself in theleg because something got in the
trigger guard.
You know it could mean you diebecause of a stupid mistake.

(01:06:52):
So you know, spend the extramoney, get a good holster.
You know that's specific foryour gun, your setup for the
carry position you carry in andthen practice dry.
Then practice dry fire.
You know draw and reholster.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Over and over If you go to a Ben Stoker shopcom.
Ben Stoker, he does a.
He teaches a lot of USPS a andIDPA courses and such, basically
how to competition shoot.
But he has some dry firetargets that are small, that you
can just put on your wall inyour garage and dry fire with

(01:07:29):
those.
What dry firing is is you'vegot the, the firearm empty, um,
and you are basically drawingand pulling the trigger, yeah,
and letting the hammer goforward, right, uh, it will not
hurt your firearm, um, notanything made in the last 50
years anyways.
No, um, any, any of the oldrevolvers yeah, I wouldn't do it

(01:07:51):
on it, um, it'll tear up yourfiring pin, but any of the new
firearms you know, especially inthe striker fired.
In fact, with the striker firepistol, especially like a lock,
you can put a zip top down inyour, in your barrel that blocks
your striker and it allow youto continually pull the trigger
without having to reset it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Reset it meaning you know you're you're pulling the
rack, you're racking slide um,not ar, but I do have a, a
holster for my uh, my raider, myuh.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Yeah, I haven't actually used it yet.
But but a man is good.
There's another one Cool fire,I think it's called.
It uses CO2 and it mimics yourfirearm and it'll work in your
firearm.
You don't have to buy a newfirearm.
It has like a CO2 cartridge inthe mag and then it has the

(01:08:42):
actuator in the slot itself.
You replace the barrel,basically, and it'll you.
You'll get like a thousandshots out of each cl2 cartridge
to where you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
You're not manually racking the slide to reset it
right.
That's awesome, because I knowthey man just figured out how to
do that for the uh, for ars,but they don't have anything for
handguns yet yeah, but yeah, itjust uses co2 cartridges which
you can get filled at anyairsoft um store, any hardware
store.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Yeah, yeah, and you can get one of those tanks and
it'll last forever.
Um, I don't get it like I justuse manual and I'll re-rack my
slide when I'm at the office.
I'll just if I'm in between, ifI'm talking to somebody like
they're hearing a lot ofclicking.
Yep, all right, because I'mlike I'm drop firing while I'm
on the phone with somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Sometimes I do it all the time Watching TV.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Yeah, you know, or just getting used to, maybe like
mag changes or whatever, rightDrop firing will pay dividends
when you finally get to therange.
You won't have to shoot as manyrounds when you go to the range
because of drop firing.
It's absolutely worth it.
It was empty.
He didn't even flag the camera.

(01:09:49):
He's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
It is weird to flag the camera.
I naturally try not to do it,and I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
No, the L in Chicago, I think, has on average, like
one murder every two days,whether it's on the train itself
or on one of the landings orthe stair or within the
immediate vicinity of it.
So, yeah, every I used to go toChicago a lot when I, when I I
grew up in Louisville, kentucky,and I used to go to Chicago, I

(01:10:20):
grew up a Cubs fan, because itwas either Cubs or the Braves
Cause I was the only ones Icould see on TV I became a Cubs
fan.
I used to go to Chicago a lot,even when I was 18 to 24, I
would never get on the hill.
There's absolutely no way Iwould take a cab or I would
drive everywhere.
It's just a matter of notputting yourself in that

(01:10:42):
situation.
Yeah, yeah, there's probably afew people in here who have
actually had to use theirfirearm, um, in a situation and
hopefully none of y'all haveever had to take somebody's life
Um, you, you don't get over it.

(01:11:05):
Um, it's, it's hard to dealwith, uh, when you realize, like
you're the reason, that personis no longer here, even if it
was justified.
So I hope none of you all everhave to deal with that, but just
be prepared in case you you do,you're going to need to talk to
somebody afterwards.
Just because you're going tohave to get that out of your

(01:11:27):
head, you're going to have toverbalize it and that's you know
whether it's with a priest orwith a friend who's been through
it, somebody who's been throughthat situation.
If you end up having to be inthat situation to actually use
your firearm, you need to talkto somebody afterwards.
Let's see what else do I wantto go over?

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
We have the funny video.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
I've seen that one before and I so let's go ahead
and play the video, and thenwe'll take some questions sounds
good uh, colonel grossman'sbooks are are worth reading
because it kind of gets you intopsychology of of being in that
situation and you read, you'llread situations like he goes

(01:12:15):
over.
It wasn't until the Vietnam war,where he started desensitizing
people to killing, that therates of of combat went way up,
like what they found, especiallyduring the civil war.
There's a lot of times thatfirearm, you know, the guns,
were unfired even though they'rein battle because guys just
couldn't bring themselves toshoot at somebody else.

(01:12:36):
It wasn't until training, rightbefore the vietnam war, at boot
camp, uh and basic, you know,depending on what branch of the
military you're in, um, thatthey just desensitize people
enough to where it was easy forthem to pull the trigger on
somebody else.
So, yeah, his books are great.
To watch on combat or to readOn combat is a good book to read

(01:12:56):
to kind of realize what themindset you're going through and
psychology of killing is.
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
I think we mentioned active self-protection on the
last video.
But for those who don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
Rob's a huge fan.
Rob's a huge fan of that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
So I pay for their, whatever their premium services.
Like they have an app, you canwatch their videos on YouTube,
but I pay for the app and, yeah,the main host is.
I mean, I'm sure he's a greatguy.
I know he's me a little, buthe's a little.
Anyways, it's worth it, even ifyou don't like the host, which

(01:13:37):
you very well might not.
They have really good stuff and, like I said, you can watch
most of their stuff for free onYouTube, even if, even if, for
whatever reason, you don't carrya gun or can't carry a gun, the
videos are good for recognizingsituations, situations, and he
talks about self-awareness andhe he talks about the ooda loop
all the time.
Like it's worth it for.

(01:13:58):
And the videos are usually 10minutes.
So, yeah, watch a 10 minutevideo on it a day and that alone
will pay dividends, even if youdon't carry a gun, but another
good one to watch yeah anothergood one to watch is uh shiv
works.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
Um is a guy who he does.
He does a lot more with closecombat, close to counter uh uses
of knives.
Basically, um and he.
They do a lot of videos showinglike the lead up to an event
happening.
Like they'll watch two guyslike you know john at each other
.
Like they'll watch two guyslike you know John at each other
, and then he'll start pointingout like hey, you know you can

(01:14:36):
start seeing he's starting tomake pre-fight.
You know movements andclenching his fist and you know
messing with his clothing andsuch, right before it happens.
So those are other good ones tocall it on the war.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
One.
I don't know how he pronounceshis name, and that's always a
red flag for me.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Anybody who's named after a body part that isn't
that pushes up excrement youprobably need to be be cautious
of.
He's his thing is he's anattorney, right, and his only
thing is he likes to shoot right, he's never been in a situation
.
He has no experience with it.
But I also don't trust anybodythat was still pushing the 320

(01:15:21):
when all the issues werehappening, right, and he finally
put out a video, kind of likewalking it back, but then now
he's going full forward with itagain, right you?
have to understand a lot ofthese guys are bought and paid
for by whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
I thought he was bought and paid for by FN.
Every one of his favorite gunsis FN.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
A lot of these GunTuber guys are under the
umbrella of the Leviathan group,which is like a PR group.
They're the ones that get themall their sponsorships and their
ads, and such Grand Thumb usedto be under them.
Um, he, he just recently wentout on his own away from them.
He figured he didn't need themanymore, which he's right.
But almost every gun tuber outthere that has more than 100 sub

(01:16:03):
100 000 subs is under leviathanum, and there might be one
onesie and twosies here andthere that aren't, but just keep
in mind that they're all.
That's what you'll see them allLike.
For example, when theSpringfield echelon came out,
they all of a sudden, like thenext day, they all had the same
video come out reviewing howgreat it was.
Oh, it's like the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
SIG GTO.
The two 11 just came out andyou you think, in a world where
sig has done what they've donein the last six months, that
everyone would be a littlehesitant to not jump on a brand
new gun from sig.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Nope, they all came out with the 211 video within
three days of each other you'llsee, you'll see that a lot um,
and just be aware that they'reall under the same.
The same, basically, whohandles everything for them and
gets them all their sponsorshipsand everything, which isn't a
bad thing, but YouTube channelsare expensive, especially with

(01:17:01):
guns, especially with ammo.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I mean, yeah, I get that they need to make money for
sure.
This is a question of who inthe industry, and not that the
guys who have take sponsorshipsaren't trustworthy.
You just have to know where themoney's coming from.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Yeah, but so be aware that you know, their opinion
may be colored by money.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Right, and what they're coming out with.
They're pushing a product.
They're probably being paid todo that, unless they're
forthright.
There's a what's that guy'sname?
There's a guy who, like he'sman, I try to remember his name,
I don't subscribe to himbecause he just really does
reviews on guns, but he'll beforthright.

(01:17:52):
He'll be like like hey, theygave me this gun for free, um,
and it's a horrible gun, don'tbuy it, right?
Um, and like, if you're honestwith that about that stuff, hey,
they bought this gun, they gaveme this gun for free and I
liked it.
I get that.
You know cool, right?
Um, you got it for free and itdidn't.
You know, it wasn't so bad thatyou weren't willing to say you
liked it.

(01:18:12):
But just just be aware there's alot of drama in the in in gun
tube, right, and just be aware,like a lot of these guys, they
don't have any experience otherthan shooting guns.
So keep in mind that theiropinion they're giving you is
based off theory more thanpractical application.

(01:18:33):
You know, like hop focus brassfacts, like none of these guys
were police or military.
But I'm also going to tell youdo not put police and military
on on a pistol, right, policeofficers on average fire 50
rounds a year to practice, andthat's it, right.
And if it's a female cop, godbless you.

(01:18:55):
You're.
You're probably not going homethat day, but do not, do not
take everything I save you knowas as the gospel truth.
You need to go out and figurethese things out for yourself.
And if I give you a good pieceof information, research it.
I don't know everything.
When I teach firearms, I tellguys all the time you need to go
out and figure these things outfor yourself.
And if I give you a good pieceof information, research it.
Right, I don't know everything.
When I teach firearms, I tellguys all the time you need to go

(01:19:17):
out and get trained from otherguys and figure out what you
like and put that into practice.
Right, I'm not going to know.
I'm going to know a way.
I'm going to teach you a way.
It's not the best way at all.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
You need to go out like everything else, it's
always developing I meanappendix carry was is is very
recent in a sense, you know um.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
So yeah, things are always developing and and things
change, you know so yeah, andthings are example that the
global war on terror is thereason that we know that
tourniquets being on you formore than 24 hours won't cause
you to lose that limb.
Right, because we had a lot ofinstances.

(01:20:04):
We got more advancements intrauma medicine because of
global war on terror thananything else, because of global
war on terror than anythingelse.
Right, those are things thatwere learned the hard way.
That's the reason like rightnow with the conflict in Ukraine
, they're having a lot of thoseChinese knockoff cat tourniquets
are failing and guys are dyingbecause of them.
So that's why it's hard to finda Chinese-made cat tourniquet

(01:20:24):
on Amazon.
You really have to look for it.
We're going to do a show onmedical.
We've got a guy in the telegramgroup who's a paramedic, uh,
who's going to come on and andreally just give a a good
medical show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
by the way, this is, this is the police, someone in
law enforcement who is attestingto the fact that no one trains
look, even we got feds in ourchat man.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
They're out to get us , but it's the.
When you call the police, justknow you've probably shot more
than they have, right?
Um, I don't know where I was inmy previous train of thought,
so, um, let's play that video.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Um, and then we'll get in and we'll answer some
questions.
This is a video that I've seenit before.
It is funny in its originalform, and by we, I mean Adrian
had Taffy edit it, so I don'tknow how well Taffy edited it.
We'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
He did a good job.
Y'all need to tip Taffy, hedoes so much for this channel?

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Yeah, he does, I don't know why.
Honestly, he likes you ispretty much what it is.
The video he's got for the nextshow with Anthony and me is,

(01:21:51):
let's just say it shows my innerthoughts at the canonization of
Carlo.
So Taffy edited this, even ifhe didn't do a perfect job.
I think the worst word in theoriginal video was a euphemism
for a part of the male anatomy.
So it's not super terrible.
But we told you, guys, we weregoing to try to do a clean gun
show, so we want to try to givethat to you.

(01:22:12):
So here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
In a defensive scenario, you never want to go
for the face, you always want togo center, mass or, my personal
favorite, the dick.
If you make the mistake oftrying to rob me oh you freaking
doves, guess what?
You're getting a shot towardsthe dick, reason being the
pelvis actually holds up thewhole entire body.
If you take that out, they arenow in mobile and you get to

(01:22:37):
shoot them in the body armor.
No problem, shoot them in thesomeone's taller than you.
No problem, shoot them in there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Moral of the story I'm probably gonna shoot you in
the now for people who don'tknow that it's a serious thing,
like he's not just he's notmaking fun.
It's called a shot to thepelvic girdle and it no, if you
don't die you're not standing upanytime soon no.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
So when you've got, when you have to shoot right, um
, the easiest shot that's goingto put them down is the best
Center mass is good because youhave a choice between a switch
or a pump right.
So the switch would be the teebox, basically the eyes and the
nose right, and if you shootsomebody in the switch they're
stopping whatever they're doing.

(01:23:26):
It's game over, you know.
That's why you have a lot oftier one groups who practice
shooting so much so they canshoot the switch, the tee box,
because if they've got a suicidevest or whatever, they're not
able to actuate it.
But other than that, you havethe heart and the lungs, which
are pumps right.
Your lungs are pumping youroxygen around your body, so you

(01:23:49):
can keep going.
That's why any guys who shoot,if you shoot them in the lungs
it just takes a while for thatpump to fail.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Right, it could take five seconds.
They will die.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
Yes, they can do things for a couple minutes and
then if she shoots somebody inthe pelvis, the amount of blood
in the pelvis just in the pelvisbone, right, uh, well, somebody
will bleed out.
But if y'all have everexperienced anybody who's had a
hip injury or a broken hip andthe amount of pain they're in
and they can't move, right, uh,that's what you're doing when

(01:24:19):
you're shooting the pelvis.
So we're doing immediate actiondrills and failure stop drills
and such.
In the marines one of the oneswe did all the time was shooting
the chest and then finishing upone in the hip because the hip
is just as good as shooting inthe head like an upside down
mozambique yes, they would.
Usually we would shoot to thechest one of the pelvis, okay,

(01:24:40):
because it's.
They're not moving, they're notgoing anywhere and they're
probably going to bleed outwithin you know a few minutes.
You know five minutes or so.
Um so, the pelvis is a realtarget.
Use it on everybody, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Absolutely.
And I suppose there's a greater.
If you say aren't exactly onwith the pelvic girdle, you're
still probably hitting something, Whereas if you're trying to go
for the tee box and you miss,you're probably getting air.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
I mean, even if you hit them in the leg, you have a
really good chance of him in thefemoral artery which they're
gonna bleed out right.
Hopefully they don't have atourniquet, but you know, any
way you can cause them.
The massive will be out,because that's what kills
somebody.
It's not like just the impactof the bullet, it's what the
bullet did and what's drainingout, especially with handgun
rounds yes you're.

(01:25:33):
You're gonna need to shootsomebody with a handgun multiple
times to put them down Multipletimes, like four, five, six
times, to really stop them.
Quick, one shot, they can livethrough it.
We had a guy in Afghanistan whogot shot in the gut, missed his
spine by like half an inch.
He still has that bullet in himtoday, right, because it was

(01:25:54):
just not worth them getting itout.
Um, they just had to, you know,fill up his guts and everything
.
Uh, yes, even a 45 um.
Problem with the 45 is it'sslow.
Um, there's not a lot ofballistic advantage to it
anymore, not with theadvancements in especially 9mm
ammo, unless you're shootingthat .45 out of a full-size

(01:26:17):
5-inch 1911, that round mightnot even expand If you're
shooting out of a 3-inch gun orsomething like that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
It might not be going fast enough to expand.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
Alright, do we have any questions?
Skyway, I all right, we haveany questions, you take them now
skyway I yes skyway they are.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
When I said no, I wasn't answering the question.
I was saying no, we're notanswering the question, but yes
rob is on his nick.
Fuentes art oh, my gosh, um.
What are your thoughts on uh,on level and jaeger?

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
uh, they have a lot of experience and they've done a
lot of good things for thecommunity, john level.
So I will never, as Rob said,participate in circular fire
squads.
Everyone who's on our side ison our side until proven

(01:27:20):
otherwise.
John Lovell's fine.
He puts out some good training.
His training's a littleexpensive.
You can get adequate trainingor equivalent training through
other people for cheaper.
He's got the brand name.
It really is.
But he also like, if you'resubscribed to his Warrior Poets
Society Network, it's a greatthing to be, especially for kids

(01:27:44):
, you know, because my kids loveKentucky Ballistics.
Yeah, they love KentuckyBallistics.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
My boy yeah, we watch it together.
They love it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
But it's a good thing to be subscribed to for all the
information that's in it.
His shop has got some prettyproven equipment in it if you
want it.
He's on our side.
Now, theologically he's stupid.
He's just like, like, like mostProtestants are, especially in

(01:28:16):
Georgia, right, cause he's, he'sin Georgia and they're they're
ate up with likeanti-Catholicism.
But he now, james Yeager, he's,he's had some, he's had his
funny incidents.
That's not really been him, butthe guys that do his training
for him.
Like 10 years ago they weredoing training and his big point

(01:28:41):
a lot of times he tried todrive home was your firearm's
not a safe queen, it's a tool.
You need to use it.
Don't try and keep it fromgetting scuffed up, don't try
and keep it pristine where itdoesn't look like you never use
it, you need to use it.
And so one of his trainings,one of his trainers, had one of
the guys shooting, throw his gunon the ground and like kick it
and stomp on it and it went offand shot somebody's truck, right

(01:29:03):
um, which is stupid.
Like.
You still need to abide by thefour.
You know four rules.
But um, James Yeager, uh, wasyour, your average man who, um,
uplifted himself out of thesituation he was in to be able
to bring training to a lot ofpeople, and his training was

(01:29:23):
mostly good, um, you know, andhe tried to.
He tried to impart a lot of hisknowledge and he had some.
He tried to.
He tried to impart a lot of hisknowledge and he had some.
He had a situation where he waskind of a lambasted about how
he reacted in Iraq when he wasworking as a contractor.
But there's two, three sides toa story.
Um, you know, and, and all wehave is video from one side and

(01:29:47):
we don't know what led up tothat video or what happened
after that video.
Um, and you can go out and findit.
James know what led up to thatvideo or what happened after
that video?
Uh, and you can go out and findit.
James, the james hickory videoI'm talking about if you want to
watch it.
But yeah, I'm not familiar.
He he was.
He did a lot of good, um, andhe was no nonsense like he was.
He was a two by four againstthe head when it came to the
information about things um,since you mentioned it, for

(01:30:09):
anyone new to guns, what are thefour rules?
So my rules I teach my kidsright.
The first one is you alwaystreat every weapon as if it is
loaded.
So the first firearm I give mykids is a BB gun, and I get them
used to just carrying thatthing around without anything in
it, and so they get used tonever flagging it.

(01:30:29):
Flagging is when you point thegun at somebody, right?
So that's the first rule.
Second rule is uh, and they canbe the four rules we've taught
the marines are not what I usenow uh, because one of them
doesn't really apply, uh.
But the second rule is uh, keepyour finger straight off the
trigger till you're ready tofire, right.
Third, one can be keep yourweapon on safe till you intend

(01:30:53):
to fire.
And then, really, the fourthone now that I use is know your
target and what lies beyond it.
Right, because your bullet willgo through things.
Right, if you're shooting inthe house, um, at an intruder,
it's going to go through theintruder, then it's going to go
through the drawuder, then it'sgoing to go through the drywall
and it's probably going to exityour house.

(01:31:14):
Nine millimeter will go throughcar doors, easy On a car.
You are not protected by theouter shell of the car.
In fact, pretty much the onlything you can be protected by is
the axle Axle on the engineblock.
Even now, the engine block won'treally protect you Because most
engines are made with so muchplastic it'll go and there's so

(01:31:35):
much gap that it's not reallynow if you, if you're driving
like a 1980, you know, 80, youknow, uh, was it a chevy, small
block chevy, you're probablyfine yeah, but um, your bullet
will go through everything.
So know your target and what'sbehind it.
That's why you, when you watchbody cam videos by cops and
you'll see like they're startingto pie off so that there's not

(01:31:57):
another cop on the other sideunless it's a female she doesn't
really take those things intoaccount every single time.
A cop, right, uh, but knowwhat's beyond your target when
you're shooting as well.
So that is so.
Treat every weapon as if it'sloaded.
Keep your finger off thetrigger, keep your weapon on
safe until you're ready to fire.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
And then know your target and what lies beyond it.
Yeah, For me, almost all thesame.
Your number three would be forme, don't point the gun at
something unless you're ready todestroy it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
Yeah, but that goes with rule number one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Yeah, that's all.
And the thing with the rules isyou can break one of them and
still be safe.
And there are times where, likeI mean, there are times where
you know, like dry firing,you're technically breaking one
of the rules, but the rules aredesigned where it's.

(01:32:52):
When you start breaking two orthree of the rules where things
get really, that's when it getsdangerous.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
But yeah yeah, absolutely all right, let's see
what else we got.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Let's see, there's a do hollow points over penetrate
yes, they can.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
yeah, yeah, especially, it depends on the
barrel length, it depends on thefirearm um, it depends on the
firearm, but if it doesn't getenough velocity for it to
blossom out, basically, and whenit hits.
So you'll see a lot ofballistics videos where they're
shooting ballistics gel andyou'll see them where they'll
put like denim in front of it totry and get it to simulate an
actual body, somebody wearingclothes, and it still will go

(01:33:30):
through.
You know, 24 inches of gelblock, right, most of us aren't
24 inches thick right it's goingthrough.
You's going through the chairbehind me, through the wall
behind me, right?
Probably going to make it intothe yard somewhere.
May even hit the housesomewhere, right, if somebody
were shooting at me here, sothey can.
Yes, now hollow points are areintended to blossom out, um to

(01:33:52):
to really limit.
But it also depends on thefirearm you're shooting out of
and the barrel length.
If you're shooting out of asub-3-inch barrel pistol, it's
probably not going to blossomout as much as if you're
shooting out of a 5-inch.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
It's almost counterintuitive.
Yeah, it's almostcounterintuitive.
With the hollow point, thelower velocity, you actually
have a greater chance overpenetration because it's not
reading that velocity.
It needs to, like you say,pedal out.
So then it's, it's staying at a, you know, a dense ball of lead
and it will just continue totravel.
Um and, for instance, um.
It's something you need to bemindful of, depending on where,

(01:34:34):
where you live, at what times ofyear, like here in Minnesota in
the winter, people are wearinga heavy coat, you know, a hoodie
, a t-shirt and all those layersof clothing can actually plug
the, the hollow point to wherethen it also will not blossom
out and will potentially overpenetrate.
There's, there's different ammodesigned to to handle that,

(01:34:58):
like, like cornity has the.
They plug the hollow pointswith little piece of rubber to
prevent that.
There's external hollow points,like you use g9, I know um.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
So there's, there's different options um, you also
have to if you're like in this,in this comment.
The windshield does not affectthe trajectory of your bullet as
much as you think it will.
Um, so I've, I've fired through, especially in training courses
, I've fired through a lot ofwindshields and it really
doesn't change.
Um, most cars, cause I don'tknow if y'all noticed it lately

(01:35:35):
windshields are not made of whatthey used to be like.
I go through a new windshieldlike every six months because,
like a random rock will hit mywindshield and it'll just spider
like in it, whereas before,like I get you know, rocks that
hit my windshield all the timeand nothing would ever happen.
So windshields aren't as thick,especially now when you get
into a lot of these vehiclesthat have, uh, the, the, the

(01:35:56):
lane assist and all that.
Um, they can't be thick becausethere there's a membrane in
them that has a sensor to beable to look through and cameras
can't look through very thick.
The cameras they use don't lookthrough very thick uh
windshields, so it can affect ita little bit, especially an
older car, but newer cars it'sgoing exactly where you think

(01:36:18):
it's going to go.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Let's see.
Here we have a couple more.
I don't know how how familiaryou are with revolvers, but
thoughts on a hunt 158 grainwood cutters, wad cutters or
semi-wad cutters and 38 specialrevolvers as opposed to hollow
points it depends.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
I mean, it's, it's all use case scenario.
Um, I don't shoot a lot ofrevolvers mostly because, uh,
it's 2025, um, but, um, thereare use cases for them.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Like, I would buy like a hammerless j-frame of
some sort, just, to keep it in apocket, especially like super
hot, yeah, jimpans, somethinglike that yeah yeah, but um, the
problem with revolvers is thelimited ammo, but it's also
better than nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
So if that's all you have, um train with it, get used
to it.
Get used to reloading, becausethere are speed reloads.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Uh, on on revolvers, um, but you're always going to
want to use hollow pointsbecause the last thing you want
is to shoot somebody and theylive the one thing I would say
is, with the um, with wadcutters and and hardcast and
stuff like that, for revolversthere's there's kind of two use

(01:37:41):
cases.
I foresee one super shortbarrel j-frame revolver,
something like that.
Um, you might not get, you know, good performance out of
certain hollow points, you know,just because of the super short
barrel.
So then a wad cutter, you know,is probably better than like a

(01:38:02):
hollow point that's notperforming or like full metal
jack or something like that.
But also then wad cutters orhard cast bullets, you know,
with a higher power revolver,.357, .44 for woods carry.
You know with a higher powerrevolver, a .357, .44 for woods
carry, you know, I think thatmakes sense.
But yeah, on a human, you know,if I'm carrying my .44 Magnum

(01:38:22):
with a hardcast, you know 350grain hardcast bullet, I shoot
at a human.
It's going to go through threeor four people before it stops
because that's meant to gothrough a grizzly or a moose or
something.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
But like the video with the guy who shot the bear
right.
He shot that bear with 55 grainHornady defense ammo.
Uh, five, five, six, um, andyou know I don't I.
He was saying that none of themwent out of the bear, I believe
it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
So your use case and your needs.
You need to go out and shoot,buy an extra box of whatever
your defense ammo is.
Make sure your gun cycles itfirst of all.
Like my, glock 19 does not likeanything other as far as
defensive ammo.
Right, it'll shoot pretty muchany full metal jacket, but uh,

(01:39:20):
defensive mode that it reallylikes is the hornady, critical
duty, the g9 and the federal hsd.
It loves those and I've neverhad an issue with any of those.
Um, I have had issues withother defensive ammos.
I have to look at it.
It starts with a, b, but I hadone issue with defensive ammo.

(01:39:41):
It was jamming like every fiverounds.
Whatever the reason, I don'tknow what it was.
My gun and the Glock 19 justdid not like it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Especially true for micro compacts and stuff like
that.
They can.
They can start to get reallypicky on uh, what ammo they they
go what ammo they like.
Which is why I mean you knowthe federal hst, spear, gold,
dot, hornady, critical defenseand stuff like those are kind of
like the three gold stars thatwork in almost everything.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
We don't need a third hole anymore.
You can buy a super safetrigger now and you're going to
town.
Force reset.
Yeah, yeah, you don't need themanymore.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Black bears commit 60% of bear attacks.
That's so funny.
Commit 60 percent of bearattacks only because, um,
there's a couple other in here,let's see so this one.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
um, yeah, the way my house is the master's on the
main and all my kids areupstairs, right?
So someone breaks into thehouse.
Uh, uh, first thing I'm doingis giving my wife a firearm and
telling her to lock the door andnot answer the door for anybody
, and she'll know it's mebecause we have a.
You know, we have a systemthere.

(01:41:05):
But my first thing is I'm goingupstairs to protect the kids,
or I'm at least getting to thestairwell to keep them from
going up there, and then, youknow, hopefully I can get the
kids out, because we looked atwe were trying to adopt a couple
of years ago, and when youadopt, they have to come through
your house and make sure yourhouse is suitable for kids, even
though I already had four kids,what's that big thing with the

(01:41:27):
blanket over it in the corner?

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Don't worry about that or that one.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
That's a dummy full of tannerite, don't worry, man.
Um, but uh, well, I had to buythese ladders for all the
windows at the second floor, um,so all the all the bedrooms
upstairs have went, have laddersto be able to go out if I need
to.
Uh, but the first thing I'mdoing is I'm making sure my
wife's armed and I'm going toprotect the kids, right, and I'm
taking my I, my bedside, youknow, go to war gun is a 300

(01:41:59):
blackout suppressed, because ifI have to shoot somebody out I
don't want to wake up the kids.
Um, so you also would like tohear, for the rest of your life
too I mean, there's that your,your, your body will block it
out, right, uh, the adrenalinewill push and it'll block out
the sound.
You'll be fine.
Now, if you're in a prolongedgunfight in your house, yeah,

(01:42:20):
you're probably gonna lose somehearing eventually, uh.
But if you're just shootingfour, five, six rounds, you're,
you're, you won't need air pro.
Your, your body will block itout.
When your body receives toomuch stimulus at one time, um,
and it's a prolonged amount ofstimulus, it learns to shut it
off, whether it's sound, whetherit's, uh, drugs, right, that's

(01:42:41):
why guys eventually have to take, you know, use more and more
drugs to get the same high.
It's alcohol, uh, whatever itis, your body gets used to it
and it starts to to really blockthe effect.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
So, if you're in the house now, I I like suppressor
because, again, I don't want mykids to have the trauma of
knowing, like daddy shotsomebody last night that's where
mr bad man bled out, right overthere I had to get new towel
floor yeah, so so for us, um, weput all of our bedrooms down in

(01:43:13):
the basement actually, and weturn the area at the bottom of
the stairs into the masterbedroom and the kids' rooms are
off of that.
So anyone coming down thestairs is coming right into,
basically, our master bedroom.
And you know the our plan is wehave space on either side of

(01:43:38):
the bed.
So my wife opens her, gets hergun, goes in the room with the
kids in one of the gathers thekids, moves them to one of their
bedrooms, locks the door,starts them climbing out the
window, basically, while Ibasically hole up at the bottom
of the stairs, yeah, and we mayneed to do a show on this, like

(01:44:02):
how to create a plan for yourhouse, like some considerations
you need to have because youneed to.

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
Your kids need to be aware of this stuff, yes, and
and your kids need to be awareof this stuff, yes, and your
kids need to be situationallyaware too, yes, like when you're
out and about, like my kidsknow, we don't tell anybody that
daddy has a firearm right,nobody needs to know that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Your word, for it is my favorite.
I don't know if you want toshare publicly.
Well, my wife and I have usedmedical device in the past.
Do you have your medical deviceon you?
Of course, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
But having a plan for your house.
It may not even be an intruder,maybe like a fire, like what do
we do?
Right, when you get the kidsused to things like that and get
used to like there's a there,there's a process of something
happens, one that takes a lot ofanxiety out of them, right,
cause, like my kids, uh, we weretalking about you know what, if

(01:44:55):
there's a fire at the house oneday, and like they start having
nightmares about having a firein the house, right, um?
So then you know, once they'reaware, like hey, we've got a
plan, this is what the plan is,um, you know, I've had those
conversations with them.
Uh, it does really, it relievesthe anxiety a lot, for sure,
yeah, um I like a nintendoswitch better did you see the um

(01:45:16):
video of the uh chicago?

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
gangster telling that uh yeah, saying the national
guard doesn't want to show upbecause there's a hundred
thousand of them with switcheshave you ever?

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
have you ever seen a guy shoot with a switch?

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
I've seen them spray the broadside of a barn with one
.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
yes, they hit nothing , nothing.
Grand Thumb did a video on itwhere he took a Glock switch and
he shot seven yards away in anentire candy bar like 30-round
mag mag and hit once.
This is a guy who's trained inshooting, so these you're you're

(01:45:58):
very unlikely to actually gethit.
If somebody should get you thenow there's like 10 of them
shooting at you at once You'reprobably going to get it there's
numbers yes, yeah, so it waswhat we call suppressive fire

(01:46:18):
38th are okay, it's better thannothing, right?
yeah, get a nine if you can.
It's ubiquitous, it'severywhere.
You can find the ammoeverywhere.
Um, it's very hard to find anine millimeter, especially a
semi-auto.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
That's not reliable and if, if you really like a
revolver or want to, you know, abackup pocket gun or something,
you can get those in ninemillimeter too.
You need a moon clip, but youknow it's so, especially if you
already have a nine millimetersemi-auto, you can get a nine
millimeter revolver.
Share the same ammo, things ofthat nature uh no it's not

(01:46:50):
really important no I runsuppressors.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
Uh, I already have enough hearing damage, I don't
need more.
Um.
But I like suppressors for tworeasons.
One my 300 blackout.
You have no idea I'm shootingit if you're any more than 10
yards away.
Yeah, you can't you.
Their whisper came in.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
Yeah, you have no idea now the action of the gun
makes more noise yeah,especially on bolt actions, man.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
but, um, I have a suppressor on my 556.
That's not for soundsuppression, more than anything
it's to reduce the signature ofthe rifle, right?
I don't want, guys, if I'mshooting smi with my 556, it's
so they don't see where the shotcoming from and it suppresses
the sound enough that it's hardfor them to discern, hearing
wise, where it's coming from ismore what it's about for it.

(01:47:38):
And now it helps a little bit,right, any like when I go
shooting at the range, I've gotApple iPods in and ear pro on
top of that.
Right One, cause I'm probablylistening to something while I'm
shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
But two you know, if you do, this is anthony really
gets him in the mood.

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
I just tend to shoot faster when I'm listening to
anthony um.
But the goal is is to help outwith your hearing a little bit
um.
But it also will increase theballistics because it's pushing
if you don't, if you have, ifyou don't have a flow through,
if you have a normal suppressorright, the old school suppressor
it's pushing more behind it andit's actually giving you a

(01:48:22):
little bit better ballistics.
Uh, it won't make your gun moreaccurate, but it will give you
a little bit better speed on theround and they're just uh,
especially at the range.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
They're just more pleasant to shoot for you and
everyone around you like andplus.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
The first rule of shooting is always look cool.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
They look so cool especially, especially if you
put a cool cover on them.

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
You know yeah, you gotta be careful with those man.
They, they, they, they'll,they'll, they like over ease
yeah yeah, if you're shooting alot, they'll overheat the
suppressor and cause more wearand tear on it.
But otherwise, if you don'thave a cover on, then it's the
forbidden popsicle and you don'twant to touch it.
Um, you have to be very carefulwith it.
You know, especially if you'reyou hang a sling right, you're

(01:49:08):
hanging the weapon and it tapsagainst your leg, you're gonna
have a nice little scar.
Uh, stances like stand kneel,take a knee.
Um, you should learn how toshoot in every single way.
Um, get accurate standing stillfirst.
Right, get your fundamentals.
Take a class on somebody toteach you fundamentals and then
start learning how to shoot.

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Taking a knee behind barriers,moving and shooting, shooting
from the ground.
Get used to how all these feelwhen you shoot and you can
understand what your accuracy islike.
So if you're having to be onthe ground underneath a pew at
church and you're having toshoot at a guy's feet, how do
you do that?
How hard is it going to be foryou to be able to get a sight

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picture on that target?
You should learn how to shootin every single way.
Let's see what else we got.
Um, let's see here, and I'mreal far behind on dart on the
comment.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
So this was talking about um just situate like
observe, observing people.
So he's asking like we shouldlearn what the normal is and
looks for what's out of place orwhat's abnormal.
I guess my question that Iwould add on to this is what do
you do when you're in a newplace and you're not sure what
that baseline is?

Speaker 4 (01:50:33):
here in the west.
Um it, it translates the samepretty much everywhere.
Um, when you get into othercultures, uh, it can be hard for
us in the west.
Like you know, when I got toafghanistan, the first thing I
had to learn was these peoplecan lie better than anybody
you'll, because they don't careabout lying, especially to the

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infidel right.
They it's they don't care,right.
So, but here in the west,anywhere in the united states or
australia or europe, um,everyone pretty much acts the
same.
You have to be aware of thepeople that aren't from that
area and you they'll stick outlike a sore thumb right or, and
you'll or you'll see peopleacting weird.

(01:51:13):
You know, you'll see people thatare constantly fidgeting, right
, they're probably on somethingof some type, you know, some
type of narcotic, some type ofchemical of substance of some
type and which is going tochange the rational capability
of making decisions, and they'regoing to be much more

(01:51:35):
irrational in their actions.
And the best thing you do is,right now, just to get used to
it.
When you go out, just startpeople watching, looking at
people and looking like you know, keeping an eye on the people,
that, because your gut instinctis going to tell you as well,
you're going to be drawn tosomebody that a little bit out
and you can't figure out why.
Well, keep an eye on them andtry and figure out what that is,
and then you can startestablishing a baseline for

(01:51:55):
yourself.
Now that you know this andyou've heard this and someone's
brought this to your attention,you're going to start noticing
things you didn't notice beforeright, and so it's a matter of
just keeping tabs on thosethings and learning from one of
um, something I started to dokind of for fun after I started
carrying was kind of like tryingto play a game, trying to

(01:52:16):
notice who else like is carrying.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Because once, you know, once I kind of got used to
it and figured out you know howI had to change how I dressed
um, how I carried myself, thingslike that I noticed I could
start to pick that up on otherpeople and you know, I kind of
became surprised at how manypeople it looked like was
probably carrying that I wouldhave never noticed before.

(01:52:41):
I mean, is there other I don'tknow if I want to call them
games, but other games like that, like people can, can do to
help train this sort of behavior?

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
um, you know, like I said, people watching is one,
but, uh, you know, you can, onething that I used to do with,
you know, with uh friends, whenwe used to go out, um before I
was married, was we.
I would watch people with themand we would try and put like a
story to like why they werethere, right.

(01:53:14):
And then once you start puttingsome type of context, then
you're trying to justify whythey did what they did, and then
things will start happeningthat don't make sense, right,
even though you're making up theentire situation in your head,
right.
Then you're starting to startnoticing like he keeps reaching
in his pocket for something likeyou know what is that he's?
He's fidgeting on something,right, and it may be nothing, it

(01:53:34):
may just be like a you know,kids used to have fidget
spinners, right, and whatever.
Yeah, but it's just a matter ofkeeping an eye on things and
starting to just look atpeople's behaviors and, if you
need to create like context toit of why they would be there,
if you go to a coffee shop andyou're sitting down and you're

(01:53:55):
doing some work or whatever, andjust like, start looking at
people and trying to figure outtheir dynamic, like are they
married, are they friends, arethey dating?
Um, and that you'll start tosee little clues on things um,
that kind of give you anindication of of some of their
behaviors and some of theiractions and some of their
thoughts and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
What about backpacks with armor plates inside?
Are they worth the price andreliable for some sort of
defense against being shot?

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
Yeah, you're probably going to get some soft armor
that goes in it that way itdoesn't make it too heavy.
You're probably going to get,like, some soft armor that goes
in it, that way it doesn't makeit too heavy, which is the most
likely situation that thatperson is going to be in, that
they're going to need.
So when, when it comes to bodyarmor, you have different levels
on what will stop it.
Okay, you have level three,level three, a level three plus

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up to level four.
Level three and three plus willstop just about everything in
the united states, just abouteverything.
Right, you can get soft armorat 3a.
That'll stop almost all handgunswhich is the most likely
firearm you're gonna you'regonna come in contact with level
four will stop up to 30 out sixarmor piercing, which I don't

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know anybody who's ever evenseen 30-06 armor piercing.
Your grandpa he used it againstthe.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
Japs in World War II.

Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
I've heard stories of my grandfather because he was a
machine gunner in World War IIat Iwo Jima.
You just can't buy that stuff.
It will stop it, but it's heavy, is the issue.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
I have level 4 plate.
Level 4 is going to be plate.
Right, they don't make level 4soft armor.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
You're only going to get 3A and something, it's going
to be ceramic.
Stay away from steel onlybecause steel's good for
training.
So if you want to wear your, ifyou have a plate carrier which
is like body armor which you seein all those shows for those of
you that aren't familiar um,steel is good for training
because it's heavy and it'llhelp train you on being able to

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carry that weight.
But the issue with steel hasbeen is spalling, exactly.
So what spalling is is when around hits the, the steel, it
spreads out, it basicallysplatters right and a lot of
times what you're worried aboutis it coming up hitting the chin
, because there's a lot of bloodvessels under here.
It can hit right into yourextremities or down into your

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legs, yeah, yeah, down into yourgroin, uh, which is a lot of
blood down there, which wetalked about earlier with the
pelvis shot.
But they have come up withanti-spall um and I have seen a
lot of testing with steel plates, especially now when you get
into what is called level 600 uhsteel or it's.
You know, 600 uh steel um,which is a lot harder um, but

(01:56:47):
the the issue is it still issuper heavy.
You can get ceramic plates atlike half um, and now you can
get ceramic plates that are justthe same price as steel.
Um, who is it?
Uh, republic armor, is that whoit is?
They regularly have sales.
You can buy two plates for like300 bucks.
Um, like I have, I have levelfour.

(01:57:07):
I don't wear a plate carrier alot, or really hardly ever.
I more have it to give to mywife and the kids for them to
have, to protect them fromanything getting shot in the
chest, but it doesn't stop yougetting shot in the pelvis or
the extremities or the head.
You're mostly covering yourheart and your lungs.
But as far as the backpackarmor, it's probably going to be

(01:57:29):
3A, it's going to be soft, it'sgoing to stop handgun rounds
and that's the most likely thingthat you or your kids are going
to come in contact with.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
That's everything I had kind of saved.

Speaker 4 (01:57:49):
I was way behind on comments.
I was way behind on comments.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
So if you look, this is going to kind of be behind
the scenes, but so you can stara comment and then up top
there's a tab for live andstarred.
So any super chat automaticallygets started and goes up there.
But if you are seeing commentsas we talk and we'll save it for
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that tab where's?

Speaker 4 (01:58:20):
where's that one that you had about the bernie shirt?

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
so I was just.
I was just starting stuff toshow you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:25):
I don't, I don't know so that, um, when antifa was
going on there, the proud boys,what they would do is they would
go around and find the Antifaand find what cars they came in
and slap Trump stickers on theircars.
So the Antifa would vandalizetheir own cars.

(01:58:47):
From here, the shows I havelined.
Well, we have lined up NextMonday.
We've got Chivalry Guild comingon, the guy who runs the
Chivalry Guild Twitter.
He does a lot of good content.
If y'all don't read his stuff,you need to and he goes a lot

(01:59:08):
into how Christianity is muchmore militant than it has been
over the last 60 years.
There's a lot of good contentabout what righteous anger is
and things of that sort.
His book is fantastic.
If you don't have it, he'scoming out with a second edition
of it.
Um, but he's coming on.
And then we've got um.

(01:59:29):
Like I said, we've got somebodyfrom telegram chat coming on to
do a med show with us.
In fact, I just got a new.
Well, it's not really an iFact,they call it a travel fact from
Refuge Medical.
I'm going to be checking it outand I might get Christopher to
look at it when we go through itas well, because I have an

(01:59:51):
iFact in all, all of my vehiclesand I have a few in the house
and it's mostly for especiallythe ones in the house, or for
like, if we have a farm accidentright, like, for instance, one
of the cows stepped on my wife'sfoot and and it's been like
bruised for like a year.
Um you know, but if somethingwere to happen and I'm out like
doing some of the fence and Iget cut real bad, my kids know

(02:00:14):
where to go get the tourniquetor my wife knows where to go get
it, but I have them in all mycars because I'm much more
likely to use medical than I amto ever use a firearm.
A hundred percent.
If I come up on a car accident,I've got the capability to be
able to help people out.
So we'll have a show on that.
So we'll have a show on that.

(02:00:51):
And I've got another show linedup with a friend of mine named
Mike Shelby who runs ForwardObserver and he's a former Intel
analyst in the Army and then hewent back as a contractor, as
an Intel analyst and he has areally good channel and a really
good product on basically anopen source intelligence report
to kind of give you an idea ofwhat's going on right now,
especially around the country.
But he also does a really goodclass on developing what's
called an area study, andeveryone should have an area
study.
You should develop an idea ofeverything that's in your

(02:01:13):
immediate vicinity and whatthose threats are and what those
vulnerabilities are, so you canprepare to deal with them,
because Intel drives ops and sohe'll come on and he'll talk
about a lot of that.
So we'll be able to, and I'mgoing to act like I've never
heard of it.
So I'm going to ask him somereally dumb questions, because I
know a lot of y'all I've never.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
I've never done one, so I'm excited for that one.

Speaker 4 (02:01:38):
Yep, it'll be a good show now, um, and then further
shows from there.
Um, I'm gonna start putting outsome, some shorts.
Uh, we might do like an edCshow, right, like what you know
what we each carry, um, and it'sit's not only going to be the
firearm but like some otherthings that carry on myself,

(02:01:58):
just in case, um, some otherthings.
But, uh, we, we got some goodstuff coming up.
Uh, let's see, cause you guysy'all recommend I'll post
something I like.
I don't know if I'd recommendthem, some of them, because, uh,
since I got all the marines, ithas been really hard for me not

(02:02:24):
to curse as much, yeah, andthese other guys don't really
have that, uh, that conscioustickling them to get them to
stop doing that, um, so I don'tknow if I'd recommend them, but
just because they use a lot ofharsh language a lot of times.
But I mean, I will post somethat I like.
Like, you also have Kingpix.
He's great, but he's mostlycomedy, but he does a lot of
good content with some otherguys.

(02:02:45):
But I'll post some more that Ilike.

Speaker 2 (02:02:48):
Just go to my Twitter and I'll start posting some
what one that I would definitelyrecommend is uh is paul harrell
.
He, he died a year ago.
Just a year ago, a couple daysago was the anniversary, um, and
his brother is still runningthe channel, but his uh any of
his content.

(02:03:08):
That he did is his ballisticstuff was awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:03:13):
He would take meat from the grocery store and wrap
clothing around it and shoot itto show you how it actually how
the rounds actually affected it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
Yeah, he'd have pork chop pectorals.
He'd have ribs behind that,he'd have leather you know
acting and skin.
Yeah, it was just amazing stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:03:34):
And his humor was just perfect.
It was very dry, which I liked.
Not a lot of people like thatBritish dry humor it takes some
getting used to.
It does, but, man, it's so good.
How often do you guys fly withyour gun in storage?
It does depend on where you aregoing.
Obviously, no one is going tocarry it openly on a plane, all
right, so I will not fly withyour gun in storage.

(02:03:54):
It does depend on where you aregoing.
Obviously, no one's going tocarry openly on a plane, all
right, so I will not fly with agun.
Um, I will not check it becauseI don't want them to lose it.
Uh, it's not a monetary thing,it's a it.
When I get there and I don'thave it, I feel naked.
If I'm going somewhere and it'swithin 10 hours drive, I'm just
going to drop.
If it's more than 10 hours,then I just know I may not come
home because I'm happy to fly.

(02:04:15):
Someone needs to make abusiness where you can rent a
carry gun and need to find outthe legality of it.
Right?
If I can get somewhere, I canrent a carry gun and then turn
it back in when I'm about toleave.
If that, if we could find outthe legality behind that, that
would be amazing, yeah so I, Ido fly with guns.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
I mean I don't fly very often, uh, just because,
like I don't know, I have fourkids and that means I mean
they're flying alone for abusiness thing or we're all
flying together, which is nearlyimpossible, um, but yeah, I, so
it's doable.
Like adrian said, they verywell might lose it.
So don't put a gun youabsolutely need or as super

(02:05:02):
expensive.
You know you need it.
It's got to be one you'rewilling to lose or have have
lost, um, and it's definitely apain.
But, like anyone who was hereat the beginning of the show,
you heard the story where theydidn't lose it.
But because I fly to and fromyou know a small airport, like

(02:05:22):
when I got in at 11 30 there wasit was locked in a closet
somewhere because everyone wenthome.
Yeah, you know.
Then it's like, well, that'sthe gun I was planning on
carrying with me home and myhome's two hours away.
I don't want it to.
It adds a complexity.
So either be willing to dealwith it or, if you're not, be

(02:05:43):
willing to go without a gun.

Speaker 4 (02:05:45):
Yeah, and if you're flying somewhere and you plan on
carrying, you need to know thelaws that are there.
Yes, because you could getwrangled, like, for instance,
with the suppressors.
If you cross state lines, Ihave to call the ATF and let
them know that I'm going out ofthe state with my suppressor I
have to follow form with them,right, but even still like I

(02:06:09):
won't drive through Illinois,right, because?

Speaker 2 (02:06:12):
they are very unforgiving on concealed carry.
I drive around or I don't bringthe gun, it's just worth it to
drive around.
So one app I use for that and Idon't know if you can use it
without subscribing but I use anapp by USCCA which is kind of

(02:06:34):
like a concealed carry insurancesort of program, even if you
don't use their insurance.
If you can try to use the appit's worth it.
But it's a reciprocity map.
So I tell it what sort ofconcealed carry permit I have,
from where, and it will give thelaws that, or it will show
which states I can carry in.
And so, like we were travelingto michigan tomorrow, I have a

(02:06:57):
concealed carry permit inminnesota.
Um, so I just click, you know,it shows me michigan accepts
reciprocity from minnesota.
Click on michigan.
I read all the laws.
Um, you know, like so, forinstance, michigan has a duty to
inform.
You know, like so, for instance, michigan has a duty to inform
when you're contacted by lawenforcement.
So the second law enforcementcontacts me in michigan.

(02:07:18):
I have to tell them.
Minnesota, there's no duty toinform.
I'm not used to it.
You know, if a cop pulls meover, I don't have to tell him.
If he asked me, do I have a gun?
Yes, I have to be, but I don'thave to inform.
So yeah, you have to be awareof the differing laws.

Speaker 4 (02:07:34):
Yeah, yeah, let's see .
So if they ever pass thenationwide reciprocity for
concealed carry, I think thatbusiness idea would have a lot
more standing.
Yeah, if somebody wants toinvest in that, you could
probably ship your gun to an FFLbefore you get there.
Have a lot more standing, yeah,uh, it's my.
If somebody wants to invest inthat, um, and you know you could
probably get around you couldprobably like, ship your gun to

(02:07:56):
an FFL before you get there andthen pick it up from them.
Maybe you could do that.
I'd trust that a whole lot morethan take it with me.
I'll play True.
Now you're, you can only reallydo FedEx.
A lot of firearms are stolenfrom them.
If you ever see some of thesechannels that are for companies

(02:08:18):
like Palmetto State, they'reputting out stuff all the time
like how many firearms arestolen on shipments from them
all the time.
But national reciprocity you'rebasically just buying back your
right, and the Second Amendmentis the only one that you have
to buy your right back.

(02:08:39):
Hopefully that will change, butwho knows?
Do we have any other questions?

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
So yeah, there are states that offer out-of-state
permits, like florida is one.
So I think arizona's one yeah,so figure out what states you
want.
Yeah, like you travel tosemi-regularly, figure out what
states they accept permits from.
So, like I knew I didn't do it,I should have at the time, but,

(02:09:12):
like when I, the place I signedup for to do my minnesota class
also offered at the same time,uh, out of state florida, same
class, they would.
They just, you know, for anextra 50 bucks.
They do the paperwork for theout of state florida.
Yeah, I should have done itbecause with a min permit and an
out-of-state Florida permit,you can carry nearly every state

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at that point.

Speaker 4 (02:09:36):
Yeah, Just stay away from the Northeast.
True, it's like a communistwall up there that in California
the kind of guns thatCalifornians have to buy, they
have to be altered and they'reapproved through the state.
Stupidest looking ars in theworld I'm so dumb looking I
don't know how.
Who, uh, who's that guy?

(02:09:57):
Who's out of california, um,who caters to a lot of guys who
shoot out of california.
I can't remember his name, buthe does a lot of california
content.
And the guns I see him shoot itlike they have the fin behind
the grip on the ars becausethey're not allowed to have a
pistol grip unless you have likean.

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
You know, grandfather , um yeah they're some of the
laws they're talking about forminnesota.
Now, because of this recentshooting, uh, I think the the
worst parts are probably notgonna to be able to be passed,
but I wouldn't be surprised ifthey do a 10-round magazine sort
of thing.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:10:39):
I hope not, and as well.
If you want to buy a suppressor, I would do it now.
Yeah, after January, when the$200 fee goes away.
Right now, a lot of thesesuppressor companies are
building up stock to be preparedfor January 1st, but after
January 1st, if you buy asuppressor, it's going to be way

(02:11:01):
more expensive than it is rightnow, just because the demand is
going to be a whole lot higherbecause you don't have to pay
the $200 tax stamp fee.
So if you want to buy asuppressor, do it now, and it's
super short.
When I did my last suppressor, Igot it in less than I got it in
47 hours Right Now thesuppressor I got before that it

(02:11:25):
took me 14 months.

Speaker 2 (02:11:27):
So if you can do it now do it.
Silencer shop is good.
Silencer Central is fine.

Speaker 4 (02:11:32):
I did the PSA route for my PSA, very similar to
Silencer Central.
They do the same thing and, youknow, a PSA for guys that may
not want to come out of pocket$1,000.
You can use Sezzle, which islike a 0% 4 month payment plan
type of thing, but they'll goahead and send you the
suppressor and then you pay forit over the next whatever 4
payments are.
But you can buy very goodsuppressors for like 400 bucks.

(02:11:57):
Uh, yhm, makes a really, uh,really good suppressors.
You don't have to buy a superexpensive one.
Um, now, some of them are goingto work better than others and
have better sound quality thanothers, but most suppressors are
going to be perfectly adequatefor what you want.

Speaker 2 (02:12:13):
Yeah, a lot of the super expensive ones are just
super lightweight titanium onesfor people carrying them hunting
into the backwoods.
It's just not necessary formost guys.
That would be amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:12:27):
How about a two-hour return time?
Basically, you put in theapplication, you go home, have
lunch and you come back.
That'd be amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:12:35):
Tffy's question on 380.
It yeah like bobby, and bobbyanswered it is the bare minimum.
Um, yeah, you know, I everyonce in a while I will carry a
380, like well, the ppk I justbought is 380 um, I mean you
could get by with the 22.

Speaker 4 (02:12:51):
You could, yeah, um, I wouldn't be shooting out past
10 yards, but um, you could getby with a 22.
Like I have a kel-tec p17.
I bought that thing for like160 bucks.
Um, I'd carry that if I had to.
Now I've got a 22 suppressor onit and that thing is super fun
to shoot and nobody has any ideaI'm shooting it.
Like that's something like I'lljust carry around the property

(02:13:14):
and just like shoot occasionallyand nobody has any idea I'm
doing it.
And 22 ammo is super cheap.
Yeah, you know, you can buygood quality 22 ammo for like
eight cents a round.

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
So you can buy a thousand rounds for like 80
bucks and there are lots ofnewer rounds too that are coming
out.
That they're they're notpopular or common now.
They might not ever be, but youknow, I mean 5.7 is new and
that's really a 22 caliber roundnow.
Is it same as the 9 millimeter?
No, but it's.

(02:13:43):
It's a hell of a lot betterthan just the 22 magnum or you
know 20 long rifle or 22 magnum.
And there's there's other newrounds too that are are coming
out.
I think we'll see you knowcaliber smaller than than 38,
you know, which is 38, 380, ninemillimeter.
Yeah, um, that, that end upbeing really good um.

Speaker 4 (02:14:06):
I wouldn't carry 40 um, mostly because it's very
snappy um.
The fbi back after the lashootout um back in the 90s
switched from non-millimeter to40 because they had better
ballistics.

Speaker 2 (02:14:23):
They went to 9 to 10.
Found their guys can't shoot 10and that went yeah, yeah is it.

Speaker 4 (02:14:30):
40 is like a marriage between a 9mm and 10mm.
The issue with the 40 is myfirst Glock I had was a 40,
because that's what all the copswere carrying.
I was like, oh, that's all I'mgoing to carry.
The issue is the follow-on shot.
After the first shot is veryhard to reacquire your sight
picture and now the ballisticson the 9mm are very close to a

(02:14:52):
40, you're better off with the9mm.

Speaker 2 (02:14:56):
You get an extra round or two, usually with 9 as
opposed to 40.
And it's cheaper 40 is moreexpensive.

Speaker 4 (02:15:06):
Yeah, on a flow-through can, you're looking
at minimum $1,000.
But the reason for a flow theway that a suppressor works.
When the round goes through thebarrel and it and it goes
through the suppressor, thesuppressor is blocking a lot of
that gas.
That's pushing it back throughthe gun.
So you end up getting a lot ofgas in the face if you don't

(02:15:26):
have it properly calibrated.
But even if you have itproperly calibrated you're still
going to get some right.
A flow-through can it worksvery similarly.
It's not going to have as goodsound suppression, but a lot of
that extra gas is falling behindthe round, so you're not
getting all that gas in yourface.
So if you're concerned, if youwant to be an organic shooter,

(02:15:49):
then go with a flow-through aswell.
But flow-through eventually thetechnology will catch up to a
conventional can shooter, youknow.
Uh, then go with a flow throughas well, but flow through
eventually will the technologywill catch up to a conventional
can it's cleaner for the guncleaner for you.
It's not as hard on the gun yeah, at all, because when you're
pushing all that gas back it'sit's forcing a lot of it onto
the gun and causing it to to toslam harder right.

Speaker 2 (02:16:12):
So when your bolt is going is rotating, and allowing
that firing pin to go through isputting a lot more wear on the
gun one of the one of thedownsides to them is depending
on you know the the gun you'rerunning and the its action and
gas system.
Um, it might what you.
I guess the rounds that wouldcycle with a normal suppressor

(02:16:35):
through that gun may not cyclewith a flow-through because
you're losing some of the gaspressure that would otherwise
operate the action.
So it depends, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:16:46):
All right, we have any other questions, otherwise
we're going to call it.
I was going to say you've got toget up early and I've got to
get up early.
They just keep coming.
We're going to call it.
I was going to say you've gotto get up early and I've got to
get up early.
They just keep coming.
We're going to keep havingthese, right?
If y'all have more questions,put them in the comments and I
come back and I check them thenext day and I'll answer any
questions I can.
That are in there and I checkit over the next few days.
But otherwise we've got anothershow coming on Monday.

(02:17:08):
We've got Chevrolet Guildcoming on.
I don't know how long we canhave them, hopefully for at
least an hour, but we can answermore questions than if you'll
have some.
But again, leave them in thecomments otherwise, because I'll
look at them.

Speaker 2 (02:17:20):
Rob looks at them and we're both available on Twitter
and yeah get on.
Adrian's got a lot moreexpertise than well, we'll get
you there.

Speaker 4 (02:17:31):
You should shoot, shoot some more.
Hopefully you never have to geton a two-way range that's the
thing.

Speaker 2 (02:17:39):
I wish that the nearest place for training
opportunities or four, you know,four hours away.

Speaker 4 (02:17:45):
But really there's.
Uh.
One of the guys I'm looking toget the class through is regular
guy training.
He's a good follow on YouTubeas well.
I like his videos he makes funof Asians.
He's an autistic Asian right, sohe's really nit and gritty with

(02:18:08):
the numbers.
But he's a really good followto be able to watch his stuff.
But he's got a class here inAlabama, probably I think.
It's about an hour and a halfaway from me and I think the
total class is over two days.
You're shooting just about2,000 rounds between rifle and
pistol, yeah, but thankfully hisclass is only like $350,

(02:18:32):
because I'm going to be spendinganother $350, $400 in ammo.
But get training guys, and thenwe'll try and give you all as
much information as we can.
But that does not, you know,stop you from the responsibility
of going out and getting yourown training, your own
information.
You'll need to be going out andstudying these things and
learning these things, um,because the responsibility falls
on you, not on us.
We're just trying to be acommunity here to be able to

(02:18:53):
give you all a sounding boardfor these things.
If you all have things that youall want us to talk about, if I
don't know about it, I'll findsomebody who does and bring them
on.
But just let us know, dm us,leave comments and we'll be able
to work in whatever we can.
Are you going to teach that,bobby?

(02:19:15):
It's legal to buy some ignitionrounds now, is it?
Yeah, that was just passed inthe last month.

Speaker 2 (02:19:27):
How bad they hurt.

Speaker 4 (02:19:29):
They hurt bad.

Speaker 2 (02:19:30):
Do they?
They're much worse than apaintball, way worse than a
paintball.

Speaker 4 (02:19:34):
Much worse than a people way worse than the way
worse than a people, way worsethan like I've never had a.
Well, I take that back.
I have paintball draw blood,but on on simulation rounds they
consistently draw bloodinteresting yeah, all right,
guys, we're gonna cut it fromhere.
Uh, like I said, leave anycomments, that you all have any
questions, that we'll answerthem.
Otherwise, you can get all ofus on Twitter and or X, wherever

(02:19:58):
you want to call it.
Now, I thought about it.
I thought about using everyoneelse's catchphrases.

Speaker 2 (02:20:10):
We should do datavice after we say we got nothing
more Dadvice.

Speaker 4 (02:20:19):
Never let your kids pick up a frog if they're not
prepared to be peed on.

Speaker 2 (02:20:25):
Never let your dog eat a frog or toad unless you're
prepared for your walls to berepainted.

Speaker 4 (02:20:35):
All right, guys, that's going to be it.
Y'all have a good night.
We'll see y'all soon, thank you.

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