August 6, 2025 • 57 mins
Catholic media stands at a crossroads as Vatican strategies collide with the reality of online Catholic content creation. This episode pulls back the curtain on Michael Lofton's recent Vatican visit for a digital media influencer conference, revealing fascinating tensions between traditional Catholic voices and the Vatican's apparent desire to control Catholic messaging online.
We examine compelling footage of Catholic influencers wandering the Vatican, making connections, and positioning themselves as bridges between Rome and the online faithful. The speculation around Pope Leo potentially addressing social media in an upcoming encyclical raises profound questions: Will we soon see Vatican-approved "verified" Catholic content creators? What happens to traditional Catholic voices in such a system? The potential for a further divided Catholic media landscape looms large as institutional authority meets grassroots Catholic content.
The conversation shifts to a broader examination of Catholic influencer culture, particularly among female personalities whose recent online behavior demonstrates how far "conservative" influencers often stray from authentic Catholic values. This leads to a captivating exploration of Christianity's civilizing influence throughout history - how the Gospel eliminated human sacrifice, established orphanages, protected the vulnerable, and elevated women's dignity in ways modern feminism fails to acknowledge.
Throughout, we maintain our trademark blend of serious theological reflection and lighthearted banter, providing insights you simply won't find in mainstream Catholic media. Whether you're concerned about the direction of Catholic social media, curious about Vatican communications strategy, or interested in Christianity's historical impact on civilization, this episode delivers thought-provoking perspective that challenges conventional narratives.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
we have the most mustaches per capita of any
catholic show um you, you me,john caleb, we all have
mustaches we all have mustachesit's the Zoomer mustache.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's the Zoomer mustache.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Oh boy, oh man.
Really, really, Anthony really,really, anthony, I gotta tell
you I don't get the freddiemercury look-alike contest these
young kids got going on.
(00:53):
It's the worst look ever.
If you're not like tom selleck,you can't pull it off.
I don't get it and the irony ofthat.
Coming from an italian, I'm justsaying I don't understand the
mustache.
Look, I don't.
I I don't know.
It's funny.
I don't think a single girlfinds it attractive either.
It's just all guys telling eachother they look good in it and
none of them look good in it.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I don't get it is this maybe why the zoomers?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
have trouble dating.
It might be.
I think if you guys all shavedyour mustaches, you all get
married quick.
But uh, what a wild day, man.
I didn't know.
When I woke up this morning Ihad no idea what we were going
to talk about.
I was like I I hadn't.
I was like we have to discusslofton becoming a lay cardinal.
We have to discuss him.
(01:37):
He runs the curia now likethat's it he's.
He's basically tellingeverybody we're on notice.
He made a lot of newconnections.
I'm like all right, so wedefinitely got to talk about
that.
And then, freaking, sarah Stockgoes and just all she did was
posted a picture of herengagement ring and, holy hell,
broke loose.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
So is this going to be another episode where, if you
don't, if you're not on Twitter, you might as well not even
watch it?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, if you're not on Twitter, you missed out on a
lot of drama today, but then Ido have.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Now that's gonna be like the first if you don't like
twitter because of all thedrama, we're bringing it right
to you guys exactly, but Iactually I have, um, we have a
couple things.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Um, we have the this idiot woman, uh, uh, talking
about how, how the incancivilization was so civilized we
, we could play that clip.
I have two parts to that.
Then I have this woman In 1993,her husband disappeared without
a trace.
Ten years later they declaredhim deceased.
So she moves on and getsremarried 23 years after he
(02:40):
disappeared originally.
So 13 years after she getsmarried she gets a call that
he's alive.
He disappeared originally.
So 13 years after she getsmarried, she gets a call that
he's alive.
So I I asked is is she now inan adulterous relationship with
her new husband?
It's an interest, it's aninteresting she did get
remarried the guy disappears.
They can't find them anywhere.
10 years later he gets declareddead.
(03:02):
So she then gets remarried andhas kids with this new guy.
And 13 years after she getsmarried so 23 years after he
disappears she gets a call fromdetectives.
The guy got arrested forsomething and when they
fingerprinted him they found hisfingerprint match from his
original identity.
It's a whole story, but I justI thought it was interesting so
(03:25):
I asked is the original marriagevalid and is her second
marriage invalid and does that?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
well, it all depends relationship the whether or not
the first marriage is valid hasvery little to do with the
disappearance right we'll getinto it when we play the clip.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
It's an interesting clip Really.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
it doesn't matter either way, because she's
probably going to kill him.
So you know what I mean.
Well, we'll get into that.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So that's an interesting one.
Then we have people makingtheir dead children into AI
interviews.
And then I have the most insaneDave Ramsey advice clip I've
ever heard in my life like themost mind-bogglingly insane.
I don't know what he wasthinking.
(04:14):
It's not even financial advice,it's basically marriage advice
and I'm baffled by it and Ithink you guys will enjoy it so
boomers, but so um an ai.
It's been a long week already,that's another one, so all right
, so let's let's discuss michaellofton going to oh, before we
have any, we don't have any.
We don't have anything topromote anymore.
(04:36):
It's just like, like andsubscribe, that's it we do have
that go fund me though yeah, wecould mention that there's a is
a young guy, 31 years old, whopassed away.
His wife was a stay at home momand they're going to be in for
some hard times.
So Rob will post the Gibson Goif you guys want to help them
(04:56):
out.
Catholic family few kids,mothers all on her own now.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
So yeah, I mean 31 years old, has a heart attack.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Um, yeah, no, like he was out of shape.
You know, the first question Iprobably see is everybody's
still doesn't.
Um, so I don't like most of DaveRamsey's marriage advice clips.
You're really not going to likethis one.
You're really not going to likethis one.
So, um, yeah, I think I thinkthis is true.
I think Lofton won.
He played the long game.
(05:26):
He, uh, you know, he went andhe talked about how Muslims are
going to heaven.
Uh, and he played the long gameand they invited him to the
Vatican and now he made a bunchof.
He made a.
He's basically running thecurious.
So why don't we go to his feed?
Let's, let's start with hisinterview with Franco, and we're
going to break Franco's chops alittle bit here.
(05:49):
We have to, Because I likeFranco, but it's pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
So where am I going?
Did you send me something?
Go to.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Lofton's feed and then scroll down, because he
tweeted a lot today.
He's very chatty today and I'mblocked so I can't send you the
link to his tweet into the shownotes.
So you have to actually just goto his feed, scroll down and
then pull up the Francointerview.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
The Franco interview, the one with him, and that Iron
Inquisitor guy?
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
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Our sponsor can't ship in thesummer, so they're coming back
in the fall.
Don't worry, we have somethings in the works we can't
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There's going to be some bignews coming soon.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, the big news is that they can't ship in the
fall either, probably.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
That would be our luck.
All right, Lofton won.
All right, let's see.
Do we have to watch this?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
All right, so I'm here at the Vatican with two
heavy hitters, franco and theIron Inquisitor Franco.
Let me start with you.
Tell me what do you think sofar about your experience at the
Vatican.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I mean like to be honest, this whole place mogs
like literally any otherbuilding locations ever.
Like the amount of arts.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
This is so bad Franco and mogs.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
This is the ambassadors they're bringing to
the vatican for social media.
I'm sorry guys, come on we'retalking about the vatican and I
love you, franco, but come onnow, you can't, you can't be
serious with this.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh play the rest of it like it's like as if someone
was performing at 200, over andover and over and, over and over
again.
The amount of art here isincredible, like it just shows,
I mean, it's, it's, it's soawesome to see how much the
catholic faith can be put ontothe arts.
And, of course, because thecatholicism is the one true
(08:01):
faith, right, the fullness ofthe faith, it just I mean all,
all this art is just I love howhe had to correct himself.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
He couldn't let him just say the one true faith.
He had to be like no, no, no,it's just the fullness of the oh
, I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I don't want to be me the franco.
I do like frank.
He's a good kid.
I've met him.
He has my phone number.
He'll be texting me.
We're just teasing you, franco.
Seriously, mogs.
These are the ambassadors inthe Vatican.
It's just wild.
I think there might be oneother video right near that one
(08:39):
that you can check out, whereLofton talks about how he made
some great Vaticanaticanconnections hold on, wait a
minute.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Oh, he is holding a microphone in his hand.
For a second it looked.
It looked like there wasnothing in his hand and he was
just using it as a prop oh no,he's got, but he's got a little
road.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Go to the video I think it's before that where uh,
yeah, it's the one before thatI made some great Vatican
connections.
This is where we're all introuble, because he was staying
in Cardinal's apartments andstuff.
I mean I think we're allgetting excommunicated.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Is it super prudential to have men staying
in?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh, stop, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
I don't think Michael Lofton is homosexual.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Oh, stop it.
I'm just saying, like the lasttime we heard about.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Cardinals apartments in the Vatican.
There was two stories One,burke, was getting kicked out of
his, and the one before thatwas the gay orgies.
They were having thedrug-fueled gay orgies they were
having he stayed in Coco.
Palmieri's apartment.
How smart it is to put theseinfluencers up with cardinals.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I don't know.
I don't know, maybe Imisunderstood.
Oh yeah, that's probably here'sthe thing.
All right, we'll play the clipand then I'll say I have some of
this.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Hey everyone, so wrapping it up here at the
Vatican, it's been an incredibleexperience First, off.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Michael, if your wife beater is visible through your
shirt, wear a different shirt.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Come on, you wear cargo shorts in Rome.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I'm a guy wearing a graphic T-shirt telling you
these things Do better.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I've had a lot of wonderful opportunities Got to
attend the Jubilee here and theconference for digital media
influencers.
I was also able to attend theVatican Secretariat of State,
got a really cool tour of theproperty as well as the ability
to make some really importantconnections, and over the course
(10:49):
of the coming days and weeksI'm going to take advantage of
that and offer some importantfeedback to the Vatican on the
situation in the Catholic Church, on social media and things
that I think.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Do you he's going gonna go to his vatican contacts
.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
this anthony abate goon needs to go well here's the
thing, everybody, because heoriginally like the reason I
even got caught on to this isbecause wagner like he made some
.
He was like he knew this washappening.
So like before it happened, heput out a video saying, like you
know, I told the vatican theyneed to consult me and I need to
help them.
And and wagner like went off onme.
(11:30):
He's like you, pompous,arrogant, whatever he's like.
How could you think you're soself-important?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
and then he was a good bait and switch by law.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So now, like everybody's, kind of like back
it off, because it's like, ohman, he went to rome, but me,
I'm like no, I'm never gonnaback off of him, I don't care,
now's the time to pile, justpile on him, I don't care, I
don't care, I'm not ever going.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
It's funny he's acting like he was given
something different thanliterally every other influencer
that went there.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, he's got he's got some important stuff to.
He gave some important feedback, but meanwhile he just filled
out a questionnaire like all therest of it.
I'm just kidding.
Michael, we wish you the best.
We're very happy for you.
You are the no, you are the newamerican correspondent for the
vatican communicationsdepartment.
This is wonderful news for you,um, but uh, do you think that
(12:23):
this is going to uh lead to thepope maybe addressing social
media and catholic contentcreators?
That's because that's kind ofwhat I'm thinking.
I'm thinking they had all theseguys come there.
We all know leo's got anencyclical coming.
(12:45):
Uh, we know he wants to addressai.
Do you think there will be somekind of an imprimatur coming
from rome for these catholicshows and things like that?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
I mean, if there is, it's going to be as useful as
the one for books.
If james martin's books can getone, then anyone and their mom
will be able to get him.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
You know one for yeah , besides treads that that won't
be allowed, but I think that'swhat might be coming.
But I also think that's whyit's it's smart to not.
Yeah, they're going to be likecatholic badges essentially
right.
So, like fred simon said, belike Catholic badges,
essentially right.
So, like Fred Simon said, belike verified badges.
Verified badges so that youknow that this is an approved.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Just as long as the biz LARPers are forced to have a
different badge, then I'm allfor it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yeah, I don't.
It's interesting that.
All right, well, I'll get offthe biz.
L bislop thing I don't want toget the uh, like I think that
that might be coming, because wedid hear I think it was baron
mentioned that like a couple ofyears ago, talking because they
were all getting very worriedabout the taylor marshalls and
(13:58):
the, the trad influencers thatwere coming up and stuff, and
they started talking about likehaving some kind of an
imprimatur for vatican approvedcatholic content, like on one
hand in a actual like healthycatholic world catholic church.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
It makes sense, right , I mean?
it does but in our currentchurch and current world, what's
going to happen when they handout these?
You know, like you said, these,um, um, I can't pronounce it,
but um, what, what happens whenthey hand them out to to?
(14:41):
You know, only the people thatare are uh reaching out to uh,
gays and trans, and you knowwhat they're going to do is
they're going to segregate thepeople they really need to reach
out to further from the church.
Right, they're like they're,it's it's going to create.
Yeah, it's going to segregatecatholic media even more than it
(15:01):
is yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And also like we're dealing with what with michael
hitchborn's report today, withthat bishop, like bringing up
that, that guy who is alreadysuspended.
He was living with another man,like he's reinstating him into
catholic, like those are theguys handing out these badges.
If that does happen, yeah,they're gonna be synodal
influencers, right, that'sexactly what they'll be like.
(15:24):
I really think that.
So everybody thought thesebadges, if that does happen,
yeah, they're going to besynodal influencers, that's
exactly what they'll be.
I really think that.
So everybody thought Loftin waslosing his mind with the stuff
when he was talking about howMuslims and Christians, like
Muslims, can actually get toheaven, not out of invincible
ignorance, but because of thegood things in their religion.
(15:45):
And I think he was doing thatto show the Vatican that he is
so on board with the.
You know, god wants thediversity of religions thing.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Well, it shows one of two things Either it shows that
he really was, you know, at onepoint a faithful Catholic and
really just has gone down areally really bad heterodox path
, or he really always was just abad faith grifter and has found
a path that is successful.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, that's an interesting one.
It's funny because, like he'sover there with all these
influencers but like he'suniversally disliked by him, by
other influencers and I'm noteven talking about like us and
like I mean like the people theanswers crowd doesn't like him
and uh, like and I'm not sayingnames specifically, but I'm just
telling you guys, nobody likeshim like I'm.
(16:41):
You know there might be acouple, but it's most of most of
the people doing this like that.
Not, and not because of histheology, it's more just because
of his smugness and becausehe's always turned on people.
Right, that it's his, it's hishorrific ability to maintain
friendships and, and everyonewho has ever, ever worked with
(17:02):
him, he has staffed him andanyone yeah, it's like I know
Eric Ibarra made up with him,but there were so many fallouts
from Lofton that it issurprising that they wanted to
even involve him in any way.
Now, the funny thing is he gotinvited because of Alex Harado
voice of reason.
So Alex Harado put his name outthere and got him invited there
(17:24):
.
And then, when the Alex Haradovoice of reason, so Alex Harado
put his name out there and gothim invited there.
And then, when the Alex Haradosituation happened, they
disinvited him.
Well, they wanted to disinvitehim, so they threw up these
obstacles.
They were like you've got toget a letter from your
metropolitan and hismetropolitan wrote the letter
and they still were trying togatekeep him out of it.
They really didn't want him inthere.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
What really weird to me and this is a complete,
kindly kind of a completelydifferent subject but alex first
started to get well known whenlofton helped him out.
(18:02):
Yeah, with alex go from that tohim being the one to get lofton
invited to the vatican in justa year or two uh, the alex's big
break was keith nestor puttinghim up to the james white debate
.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So they, they asked keith nestor, they asked keith
to do the debate with jameswhite and jane, and keith said
no, I think I'm gonna pass onthat, but I have somebody
that'll be good for it.
So he put alex's name up thereand then and then, after
everybody saw his debate withjames white, they were like, oh
okay, this kid can handlehimself and he can hold his own
any.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I mean it's james white right.
Any catholic since the 90sshould be able to handle james
white pretty easily yeah, butthey're rob that.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
They're looking for someone to pass the baton to,
like they really I know itshould.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
The whole voice of reason thing seems so um, not
fabricated, but really you knowwhat I mean.
Like it wasn't organic.
His, his rise was not organic,it seems like it was I feel like
that's pushed from behind thescenes I feel like there's a lot
of guys like that.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I'm not gonna say names, but I feel like a lot of
them like I don't feel like alot of them had organic growth
like it's, so what it's what Ithink is Orchestrated.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yes, molly, exactly Orchestrated.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I, I AstroTurf is a good way to say it.
So look they are all.
Look the Scott Hans and theJeff Cavins and even the, like
the old, the, the, thegraduating class of the nins and
2000s.
Like those guys are all gettingolder now.
And you know there's an endlesssupply of the Steubenville
(19:51):
crowd, but they're all gettingolder now.
So, like even Dr John Bergsmaand Brant Petrie, like those
guys are just aging out and andCatholic answer specifically
needs a group of younger guys tokind of fill those shoes.
So I think there is like a newclass of kids coming up.
(20:15):
I mean you got sips with Sarah,you got Cameron Riker, you got
everybody that was at thatinfluencer conference that Kyle
posted.
But I do think Alex was theirtop guy guy.
I mean he was the one that theywere bringing.
I mean he was on lila rose'spodcast, he was on frad's
podcast.
He was the guy they were forlack of a better term grooming
to be that next guy and thatkind of fell apart.
(20:37):
So I'm curious to know whatthey're going to do next.
But I'm telling y'all, lila isheavily involved with this stuff
.
It's from her where the moneyflows.
That's very possible.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I mean, she puts what millions of dollars into her
own podcast.
Yeah, to get these, not muchmore than ours.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
No, I know, Scott Hahn's the class of the 80s,
that's not what I mean.
So he was popular from the 80suntil the 2010s.
He still is Scott Hahn, don'tget me wrong.
But until the 2010s, he stillis Scott Hahn, don't get me
wrong.
But they do need a new crop ofguys that are younger, and I
think they're all looking forwho to go with, and I think the
problem for them is that some ofthe guys who are actually good
(21:15):
at this and are captivating forthe audience are also have some
fiery opinions about the Jewishquestion or they have some fiery
takes on other influencers andthey, you know, they might say
something controversial aboutother guys and stuff like that.
So it's it's not an easy, aneasy thing for them to figure
out.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
So the real question is Wagner goes to this
conference, right, did they flipthem?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Um, did they flip him ?
Did they flip Wagner?
Yeah, I mean I think I thinkhim and Amber are besties.
Now, right, I mean we saw thepictures.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Oh the mighty have fallen far.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I love Wagner.
But, man, what were youthinking with that picture,
christian?
What were you thinking?
I had somebody reach out to metoday and say that they could,
if I wanted they could, getAmber on this show to discuss
the e-girl controversy.
Is he absolutely insane?
(22:24):
Like, does he actually thinkthat would ever happen?
Like some of you guys justdon't know this show, I guess I
don't know.
Yes, but that's why I thinkWagner would have been a very
good fit for them, right, likewagner is kind of in that mold.
(22:44):
Um, I'll tell you a little bitof lore.
My, my wife occasionallywatches amber what my wife told
me yesterday.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
You stole a lot of internet after she goes.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
She goes, I don't know.
I watched it the other day.
She's not that bad.
I'm like don't you dare putthat crap on my computer.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
You know what.
They're going to accept yourproposal for history checks to
be a Catholic influencer andwe're all going to see the Amber
Rose on your history.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, no, I was making fun of her a little bit.
For that, the Amber Rose.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Yeah, yeah, no, I was making fun of her a little bit
for that, but yeah, I don't know, man, I I I'm curious to see
how this whole thing pans outwith Leo's next encyclical.
I'm curious to see how theyhandle Catholic social media
because I think part of thereason they brought Leo in as
the American Pope was to get abit of control over the american
(23:40):
media.
I think it was way out of handfor them.
They, like their biggestobstacle was the american
catholic media enterprise.
That was trad media yeah, butit was.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
That was the way under jp22 and Ratzinger.
It was just the other side ofthe American.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Catholic media, but that's the point.
So they want American media ontheir side.
Look, you still had EWTN,national Catholic Register,
national Catholic Reporter.
You still had a verysignificant portion of catholic
media.
Who towed the line?
They?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
had?
Under which way?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
under francis.
Okay, they had way less trafficthan anybody on the other side.
That was like more traffic ohyeah, for sure speaking out
against this stuff for sure,because the majority of faithful
american catholics were furiouswith Francis.
So you had, you, had your, youknow your.
It's funny when we went toItaly, we were there with
(24:44):
another American pilgrimage fromTexas and they were just normie
, nova Sordo, parish, goingCatholics.
They had no idea any of thestuff with France, like they
didn't even pay attention toRome at all, they were just very
present in their parish andthey didn't know any of the
stuff that we knew.
And when we went to the PadrePio shrine and the Rupnik art
(25:05):
was there, they were like,looking at the art, like it was
like, oh, this isn't bad, youknow.
And then when we told them thebackstory of it, they were like,
oh my gosh, this is horrific.
They were so unbelievablyappalled once we started telling
them the story behind theRupnik art.
So the thing is a lot of normies.
Don't read any Catholic news.
The only people that actuallypaid attention to the news were
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the people who were really upsetwith the direction Francis was
going in.
So now you have Leo comes in.
He's the American pope, he'sgoing to kind of get the
Americanolic media to tame itdown a bit and they are going to
have official missionaries,official digital missionaries,
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that they will send out into theworld to push their message
yeah, all the people wearingt-shirts and jeans at mass in
the vatican are going to begreat missionaries.
I I mean, a lot of people doconsume that kind of stuff.
New to the show, anthony, whereshould I go to Mass on Long
Island?
There's three places you couldgo St Michael's in Farmingville
is an SSPX chapel.
(26:08):
St Matthew's in Dix Hills thefirst and third Sunday has a
Latin Mass and then St Rocco'sin Glen Ce every Sunday has an
1130 Latin mass and then, ifyou're not far from the city,
you could go to Holy Innocencein Manette.
But yes, st Rocco's is theideal, but for sure, if you're
(26:28):
close to, close enough to StRocco's, definitely.
So yeah, it'll be interesting tosee how Leo handles this next
encyclical and, if it has, if itdoes address AI and, if so, if
it also addresses mediapersonalities and how they
should handle things goingforward, because I've already
seen one or two things wherethey were talking about how like
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Catholic media should be tolift up and it shouldn't be to
knock down and things like that.
So I think we're disqualifiedright off the bat, because we
started this show off picking onother people and I mean we're
just having fun with it andgooping around.
I don't know what to tell youguys.
We're a little different thaneverybody else.
That's just the way it goes,all right.
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So we can, we will, we willwait and see how Leo proceeds.
We'll wait and see how theVatican proceeds.
I'm curious to see how it goes.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
It'll be interesting.
Yeah, I think so At least it'sgoing to be different than the
last 12 years, even if, you know, I'm not saying it's
necessarily going to be better,but it will be different.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, for a time, at least For a time different.
Yeah, for for a time, at leastfor a time right for a time at
least, I'm.
I'm still waiting for the unitything to like.
It just cannot continue, foreverybody's claiming leo is
their guy I don't know it was.
These people think he's francisthe second.
These people think he'sbenedict xvii.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Nobody thinks he's leo it's interesting it will be
interesting to see what thefirst encyclical and stuff is
like bobby will smite you.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
He's not allowed to go byzantine if he's on long
island, it's not happening.
Um, okay, so, uh, catholice-girls psychopathy.
We have to at least address itfor a second.
So I think I sent one of thetweets here um, yeah, the, the,
oh, my gosh, look, okay, we haveto actually preface this.
Not safe for work if you havechildren around.
(28:31):
There is going to be somepretty harsh things that these
girls said to each other if youhave children around.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Not appropriate, I'm just going to tell you well, we,
we're not gonna say it right,we're just gonna show it on
screen.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I'll abbreviate it or we'll just show it on screen.
We will make sure.
Well, I mean look, yes, if youhave kids, we're not gonna say
anything.
We, we shouldn't.
It's just, these girls were notvery kind to sarah stop well,
to be fair, they're not even allcatholic, thank you mimi very
much appreciated, it's not likenecessarily catholic e-girl,
it's right wing e-girl stuff,which is interesting.
(29:04):
So, um, all right, just clickon the tweet I I sent and I
think we could follow it backlet me zoom in.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Oh wow, it really.
I did not see all of it oh yeah, it gets pretty hairy.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
these girls were not very kind, so click on it and
then scroll up a little to thepicture.
Show it on screen.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I'm just getting it framed before I put it on screen
.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
You've been terrible tonight, jamie.
Okay, that's not framed verywell.
What kind of framing is that?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
so this was sarah stock.
Right, sarah stock prefers.
I mean, most of you peoplearen't going to know these women
at all, so so sarah stock is arecent convert.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Um, she's been on that jubilee show a few times.
Uh, she was at the contentcreator conference um.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
She was on the charity stream for the
Belthinians too.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yes, she was also at Lila Rose's thing out in
California, the Women LeadershipConference, which you know.
Whatever, we'll forgive her forthat.
So scroll up a little so we cansee what her actual tweet was.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Click the picture.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Rob, just click the picture, there you go.
You click the picture.
Rob.
Just click the picture, thereyou go.
You click the picture there.
That's how this works.
Do I gotta teach you how to usethe internet?
I'm boomer.
Rob doesn't know.
If you click the picture, thetweet will come up.
So she tweeted.
I won now scroll down on thepicture so we can keep going.
And so, emily, save America.
(31:00):
Who is this awful woman?
Awful, awful woman.
She's.
This conservative influencermakes a comment like that, the
ring size with a skull after.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
It's called good or bad in Zuma language.
What do you?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
mean.
She's saying the ring is small,right, yeah, she's making fun
of her for the ring size.
So the guy, the guy thatproposed her, she's making fun
of her for the ring size.
Like there's something aboutwomen in engagement rings.
That is kind of appalling, thatlike something about women that
is just kind of appalling.
(31:37):
Well, that's what we're goingthrough.
We want to just go through howvicious women are to each other.
Um like, there's nothing wrongwith a, uh like, a classy small
engagement ring, especially ifthat's the guy can afford, and
she's looking for a goodcatholic man, and they're gonna
make things work.
And you know they don't want todump their future on a ring.
So so so Emily makes fun of herfor the ring size.
(31:58):
So now zoom out of the picture.
And another scroll up.
Now another influencer, morganAriel, another right winger,
says you give it up for free.
Ho, you might want to sit thisone out To Emily, to Emily girl,
but then, if you scroll downand look at what pearl said, we
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have to figure out how we'regoing to say this morgan, you
are this one's not.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
It's the ones after this that we are very bad.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, morgan, you are a single mother with a public
video admitting you have uh hpvit's okay to say an acronym hpv.
Yeah, you may want to sit thisone out.
Keep going down uh, do we?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
we really you think it's that?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
bad maybe.
Maybe I can see it on my endand I'll see, yeah, we can't,
yeah, don't show that actually.
So they then go in and startgetting on pearl for some of her
past choices.
Uh, it just gets so vicious allof this and it comes down to, I
(33:03):
think, that women have a hardtime just being happy for
another woman.
It's like the girl she did wassaying I'm engaged, instead of
everybody just saying, oh,congratulations I.
I don't think that's whatyou're supposed to say to a
woman.
I think you're supposed to say,uh, good luck or something.
I don't know whatever you'resupposed to say.
I don't think that's whatyou're supposed to say to a
woman.
I think you're supposed to saygood luck or something.
I don't know Whatever you'resupposed to say.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I don't know if.
Good luck, congratulations.
I would just saycongratulations.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Best wishes or something.
Yeah, I don't know.
I heard somebody said somethingabout like you're not supposed
to say congratulations to theguy.
I don't know I need thesestupid rules, but I found it
interesting that these womencould not just be happy for
their fellow sister and just saycongratulations.
It's like there's an entitybetween all of them.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
It says our eyes have fried all their brains and they
don't know how to be happy atall.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
in general, it is strange.
Look, I will say Pearl's awful,don't get me wrong, I'm not
trying to, but she does have aninteresting take that women and
I'm not saying this is withSarah there, but just she has
this take where she thinks womenview things husbands do for
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them as just ways to show off toother women is like status
symbols, it's like it's likeit's not actually about that.
They're grateful for the gift.
They just can't wait to show itoff to other women, and I have
noticed that to be a bit true.
So maybe you ladies should keepan eye on that.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
No comment, rob my grandpa always said if you don't
have anything nice to say,don't say anything you picked
the wrong person to do a showwith buddy.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
All right, like I, just I don't know all right, so
here's what we're gonna do weare going to go there is no
difference between aconservative woman quote-unquote
and a liberal woman yeah, atthis point, there's not.
There's just not, yeah, they are.
They are all feminists at thispoint.
So it's like what are they?
It's they conservative womennowadays, especially
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conservative influencer women.
It's basically like oh, I liketrump and that makes you a
conservative, and it's liketrump's a liberal, so I don't
the only difference is whetheror not they want to take
testosterone to start becoming aguy.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
If they do, they're a liberal woman.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
If they don't, they're conservative woman it's
really just about politics likeit's.
It's not about actualconservative values.
It's just about who they votefor that makes them conservative
and if right and if they andwhere they land on the trans
issue, like that's whatdetermines whether they're a
liberal or conservative yeah,100 yeah it's, it's like well,
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if you think, if you think menshouldn't compete in women's
sports, then you're, you knowthat's.
That's the argument.
That's where we are at thispoint.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I don't know we're not really including sarah in
this, because she was the she,yes, her picture just instigated
all the reaction.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
We're so, we're also giving her leeway because she
just became catholic and sheseems like she's becoming aware
of a lot of things and she seemsvery open to understanding the
problems at hand.
So I'm not going to startbashing somebody who seems to be
open to it.
She's she doesn't come off asoverly obnoxious and an
attention seeker as that Like tome yet.
(36:14):
So I mean I'm, you know, I'mnot, I'm not whatever.
I don't like any e-girls.
I'm not ever having her on hershow or anything.
I'm just, I'm just saying she's, she's not awful yet.
We'll give her some time yet.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Um, yeah, she basically has a year, a year to
get offline.
If she gets offline in a year,he was a good one.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Somebody said somebody said when they saw that
they were just like somebody,somebody like all of them, their
husbands need to just tell themto get off, get off the
internet, because there'sthere's one girl, um, I forget
who, what her name is.
She is so freaking annoying andobnoxious and she's putting on
this larp as if she's a tradwife and she throws the N word
(36:57):
around all the time and stuffand it's like you are so
freaking annoying to me.
Like I can't stand the the theway these women comport
themselves in public.
Like I don't.
I don't think it's wrong tohave a Twitter account.
Like I don't.
Like I have plenty of normaldecent interactions with women
on Twitter.
It's when they want to be thesesuper big influencers and then
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they start telling everybodytheir opinions and all this
stuff.
That's when it kind of gets alittle out of hand.
What did molly say?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I was just saying you were saying that it's okay for
women to have a twitter accountsome of them are good and I was
like, like molly right?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
no, there's plenty of women I interact with on
twitter that are just there likeI'll throw a comment here,
comment there, but they're nottrying to be these superstars
online and trying to like like.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
The idea that a trad wife is going to be the
breadwinner through her socialmedia is absurd to me, you know
the internet was a much betterplace when a woman had to decide
whether she wanted to go onlineor use the phone yeah, because
it was on the same line, right.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
So they usually pick, use the phone and didn't use
the internet.
Um, what do you?
What do you think about?
Because we've been talkingabout ai a lot do you think
women are in trouble with thecoming AI revolution, because it
seems like most of the jobsthat are going to be replaced
are these silly jobs that womenhave done for the better part of
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30, 40 years, like they're alloffice jobs and things like that
.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
On one hand, it is strange that AI, which is going
to be incredibly disruptive anddestructive, could also be the
thing that destroys a two-incomehousehold.
Right, because you're right, alot of the jobs that we'll
destroy are ones that women arelargely predominantly you know a
part of, but, at the same time,it's not like most of those
jobs honestly, like today, areeven necessary.
Right, it's almost like you seeit online.
(39:10):
People will say like most ofthese jobs were invented to
basically you know it's paidcare for women, so women don't
go have kids.
You know's like daycare care forwomen, so women don't go have
kids.
You know more or less.
So I have no doubt that humaningenuity, human ingenuity will
invent a whole new cadre ofuseless jobs yeah, for we'll see
(39:31):
how it goes all right I want.
Ai in general is dangerous.
It almost got me killed thisweekend, so we'll do.
We're gonna do that on localsthat's actually a really
interesting story.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
We'll release that as a.
This weekend we're going to dothat on Locals.
That's actually reallyinteresting.
We'll release that as a cliplater on, but I want to do that
on Locals.
I do want to do the woman withthe divorce thing or the woman
with the dead husband thing.
Okay, let's bring that clip up.
Everybody that's still around.
This is a very interesting clip.
It raises a lot of moralquestions and, uh, if you guys
(40:01):
did not see this video yet, itis pretty interesting and we're
going to get into discussing it.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
It's actually are we going to get a copyright?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
it's abc nightline.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
It's from 10 years ago, I don't know okay otherwise
if there's something else wecould do, and do this on locals
um we can do.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
What about that other woman clip?
We'll do the inca.
The inca thing depends.
What sort of words are yougoing to use?
For them well, let's, let's,let's see what she says above
that in the show notes,uncivilized, it says all right,
if you, alright, if you guyswant to see that other clip, you
guys can come over to Locals.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Maybe we'll release it later after Rob runs it, that
one or the one for Matt Walsh,or is that the same?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
No, no, no, matt Walsh is the one, for Matt Walsh
is part two, that's part two,so the one above that is part
one okay, here we go no, youdon't go to locals now, steve.
We'll tell you when.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
We'll tell you when also so people know, we did stop
releasing the full podcast onwell, the full show on audio
podcast.
But for those of you who dojust listen and don't watch the
videos and you don't want to payfive dollars for locals, you
(41:19):
can subscribe for three dollarsa month to listen to the full
audio.
I was getting this grip,thought I love it.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Yeah, we did it our first person subscribe.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Oh, also the store.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
The store is back up oh, rob got the merch fixed yeah
, we're.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
We have to rebuild every listing so there's only
like three options available nowfor shirts.
But we'll, we'll get thatrebuilt you are able to get your
.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Have you accepted, mary, as your personal mother
and intercessor?
And you're religious, notspiritual we are also going to
get a uh, I have been blocked byfather james martin.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Shirt coming we should also do a reason in
theology, one too, and we shouldget.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
I've been blocked by reason in theology, for sure we
gotta do something with law,then come on.
He's definitely gonna be amoney maker for us, um okay, we
ready for this all right, let'sgo you were telling me.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
The spanish looked at this and said uncivilized.
The inca built the morayterraces as an agricultural
laboratory, because eachseparate circle created a
different microclimate so theycould figure out exactly what to
grow at what elevation.
The inca who cultivated 44types of corn and 4 000 types of
potatoes.
The inca who built this stuff600 years ago and it is still
(42:36):
standing because it's allearthquake only 600 the Only 600
years ago.
The Inca, who created salt flatsthat still, to this day, aren't
privatized.
They're all sharing it from thesame hot spring in the mountain
and everyone gets a share, notto mention Coricancha, machu
Picchu, the fact that all oftheir cities were made
intentionally in the shapes ofanimals that were important to
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them.
This reminds me of exactly whathappened in tenochtitlan.
When cortez laid eyes on thatcity for the first time, he
wrote in his diary that thetemples were grander than
anything he would have seen insevilla.
Yeah, you're telling me, thespanish saw this and they said
nah, inferior.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Yeah, then they tore it down with 100 guys.
That's it.
That's all it took.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
The okay.
Civilized, the word civilized.
You're talking about people whowould murder innocent children
and offer them as sacrifice.
You're talking about people whosacrifice virgins.
The Inca actually made earthencakes of dung and roasted them
(43:45):
in the sun.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
Read it in her voice the Inca who made earthen cakes
of dung and roasted them in thesun.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
This is such a dumb way to look at things.
A dumb way to look at things.
Um, there were always grandcivilizations, if you want to
use that word, but likecivilized the way you would
think is plus, just I mean ohyeah, they made these buildings
(44:14):
600 years ago.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Yeah, but the europeans sailed halfway around
the world from build from theirown buildings that they had made
1400 years before that she was,she's going to destroy these
civilizations with 100 guys,like it doesn't compare oxford
is older than this place likethat's you have to understand.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
So she's talking, she's bringing about this
happening.
600 years ago we haduniversities and we had
hospitals oh, yay, they made.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
They had 4,000 types of potatoes.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
They still starve to death all the time and these
temples that they built was withslave labor that they it's just
the idea that what we broughtto them was what we brought to
them was salvation, because theycould then actually be freed up
(45:08):
to learn and live in a way thatis like we live.
I don't even want to say nowlike, because what was happening
at at during the middle ages itwas just this, this boom of
seeing women have dignity andthat there's just so much to to
to go along with it, and it'syou're just not sacrificing
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human beings.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
The civilization that God deigned to come into the
world, into right, had aquifersor not aquifers, aqueducts that
carried water hundreds of milesthrough mountains, like they dug
through mountains to carry thiswater at the exact same angle,
(45:53):
over the hundreds and hundredsof miles, so that it would
create running fountains in thecity of rome from the alps to
rome at the same angle, throughliteral mountains done to almost
2 000 years before, beforetheir stupid step pyramids.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
Yeah, it's not about okay, cool they.
They figured out how to growcorn and they built some cool
stuff.
I, I mean you.
You go back 5,000 years and youhave cool stuff being built.
It doesn't it doesn't mean theyshouldn't have been evangelized
and had the gospel brought tothem, because the gospel is
actually what civilizes man.
So she could call itcivilization, as you could say.
(46:33):
They're civilized.
But no, they actually weren't.
They were hacking each other todeath and they were roaming
bands of I mean, go watchApocalypto.
That's what these people weredealing with.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Yeah, they had cool gardens guys.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
What's the point of having 4,000 types of potatoes
if you don't know how to makeFrench fries?
Who made French fries?
I'll give you a hint it wasn'tthe Incas.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
All right, so go down to Matt Walsh's tweet, because
that's part two to this, and soshe caught a bunch of flack for
her post, so I think she triesto respond and then we can
actually read what Matt Walshsaid, because he did a better
job than I will.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
I will die on this hill.
I'm specifically talking aboutthe Ingi here.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
You will die on that hill and they will sacrifice you
for it Like come on the ironyof saying that the irony of
saying that because I will dieon this hill is actually
probably.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
That hill, that one right there.
Yeah that they sacrifice peopleon.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
You're going to die on that one, machu Picchu.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
That's where you're gonna die on it.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
They'll give your body to the 4 000 types of
potatoes.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
You won't be the only one who died there many people
died on that hill, honey, don'tworry, 40 000 in one day.
Who knew about?
Speaker 3 (47:50):
the mashika.
That's a whole separate type ofsacrifice if we're just looking
at to want and sue you, thequechua people, the incan empire
she's just making up words.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
She's got to be just making up words.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
They practiced sacrifices, like most other
civilizations throughout historydid, in times of crisis, so
famine, natural disasters.
But the unique thing about theQuechua is that when you're
looking at like the Incancivilization, you essentially
have the elites and then youhave everyone else.
You essentially have the elitesand then you have everyone else
.
Sacrifices were volunteers fromthe elite class, because they
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believe that the elites werecloser to the gods and could
therefore appease them better.
Also, in terms of sacrifice,they were kind about it.
Hear me out, because, unlikethe Mashika, when you're like
ripping out a still beatingheart out of someone's chest,
the Inca would intentionally usecoca leaves and would use
chicha and would get a real highsacrifice and then leave them
(48:45):
on a mountain, a cold, chillymountain, to be exposed to the
elements which, if you're avolunteer, sacrifice.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
I say we heavily drug this woman and leave her out in
the cold for a night.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
No, no, no but think about what she says.
This civilization, like allcivilizations, offered sacrifice
.
These people don't understandthe greatness of the gospel
spreading throughout the world.
Yes, every civilization hadthese awful sacrifices, where
they sacrificed human beings,where they murdered innocent
people, where virgins holyvirgins were saved and they
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would sacrifice these virgins,who were pure, which is funny,
because even the ancient pagansunderstood that there was
something pure about virginsthat Protestants don't
understand.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
I just think it's funny.
On the first clip she's tryingto tell us how wonderful the
civilization was, because theywere all kind of communists and
had salt flats and they all wereequal.
But in this one she's like oh,but the elites who were, who
were actually closer to God,they make up your flip in mind.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Are they good, are they?
Speaker 5 (49:49):
good, because they aren't commies.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
It's just.
It's just this whole, thiswhole.
What do they call it?
The colonization right.
Imagine sacrificing.
Well, you know what.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
She's actually got a good idea.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Might be on to something.
Maybe the elites do need to besacrificed right now.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
Biden's already high off his mind.
Let's give Trump some coke andgo leave him on a mountain
somewhere.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
So Matt Wall says.
History teacher on TikTok saysthat the Incan child sacrifices
were kind and voluntary.
Children were merely left tofreeze to death, which isn't so
bad when you think about it.
She blames white people forhaving a judgmental view of
human sacrifice.
No, it's what it really is.
Needless to say, the claim thateight year old kids volunteered
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to die of starvation andhypothermia is insane.
These are the kinds of moralmonsters that teach your
children and public schools.
But matt's even missingsomething, because this is the
glory of the gospel spreadingthroughout the world.
Right you, when you get intothese ancient cultures, every
one of them did have humansacrifice, every one of them.
(50:54):
If there were children who wereborn with any kind of deformity
, especially the Greeks, theGreeks would just leave any
child out to die in the elements.
Speaker 5 (51:05):
Now you have Iceland, who has got alternative Down
syndrome by aborting every fetusthat has positive.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yeah, that's their idea of curing Down syndrome.
You just go back to the way thepagans lived down syndrome.
You just go back to the way thepagans lived.
Now, the thing that spurred onso much evangelism in the early
church was that the earlyChristians would pick these
children up off the side of theroad when they were left to die.
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And the idea of an orphanage isa Christian idea.
The Christians would take thesechildren who were going to be
thrown away and they would raisethese children with love and
they would be cared for.
And this is what Jesus meant by.
He said they will know you byyour love.
And when people saw how theycared for the downtrodden and
(51:57):
the throwaways of the world,it's actually what moved
people's hearts to actually wantto believe in the gospel.
So much so that when Julian theapostate tries to reinvigorate
the pagan rituals, he makes someof the pagan gods, like the
(52:17):
priests of the pagan cults,start to care for the poor,
because that's what's attractingso many people to christianity.
And he tries to make it soundlike that these cults always did
that when they never did.
It was just something he sawthat was so attractive to people
that he started telling thesepriests no, no, you have to
start caring for the poor anddoing things like this and try
to mimic some of the good partsof christianity, which is also
(52:40):
what you see in modern movementslike blm and things like that,
where they try to make it seemlike they are caring for the
people who are in need, or eventhe lgbt movement.
It's a mockery of christianity.
They mimic it in trying to likeemulate compassion when it's a
false compassion.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
So, um, this is what happenswhen the gospel spreads
(53:03):
throughout the world.
Is you get rid of these ancientcults where the human sacrifices
performed in these evil thingsare done?
And not just that the likemarriage.
We have a tendency to saythings like marriage predates
religion.
And you know, marriage issomething that transcends
(53:25):
cultures and it's ubiquitousthroughout humanity.
But it's not really.
Yes, it is where a man wouldclaim a woman for himself, but
for the most part of humanhistory, it was polygamy, it was
one man would have multiplewives and things like that.
It was Christianity thatstarted putting these demands on
men, saying, no, you can onlyhave one wife and you can't
(53:45):
divorce her.
You can't just get rid of herwhen you're done with her.
And this is actually whatelevates the dignity of women
and puts it where, and that hasto do with us seeing Our Lady as
the crown of God's creation.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
So if Our Lady has that much dignity, that elevates
the dignity of all women.
Yeah, people don't understandthat a well-ordered patriarchy
actually exists in order toprotect women.
Because in societies that arematriarchies and are matrilineal
to, where you trace descentdescent through your mother's
line, and this includes, um,this includes judaism right,
(54:22):
they, you are a jew if yourmother is a jew.
Yes, the reason those societiestrace descent through their
mother lot, their mother's line,is because, more or less, rape
was so common that you neverknew who your father was.
You only knew who your motherwas, so you could only trace
(54:45):
your descent through your mother.
So we see a lot of NativeAmerican tribes that are
matrilineal and they'recelebrated as being these great,
you know, enlightenedmatriarchies.
No, no, no, the men were rapingall the women they wanted, and
you only knew who your motherwas.
You never knew who your fatherwas.
Yeah, and, and, and.
(55:06):
That's like that's what apatriarchy is for to.
To protect the women, toprotect society, protect
children, all under strong men.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
You're starting to see that, as as patriarchy
disappears, how women are nolonger respected and they are
being degraded and they're doingthings that you would you would
have found horrific 50, 60years ago, but now this is like
totally normal and it's often atthe hands of other women too.
Speaker 5 (55:31):
Yeah, right, which we remember.
We just saw that with the wholesarah stock pearl thing yeah,
yeah, it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
So, all right, now I want to do two things over on
the other side.
I want to do the Dave Ramseyclip because it's pretty insane,
and then I want to do the womanwith her husband.
So we're going to go over tolocals.
I'm going to do those twosegments because I don't want to
get hit with copyrights oneither one of those videos.
So if you guys are not Localsmembers, that's where we
(56:00):
actually get to say things alittle more freely.
We get to have more fun overthere.
Locals is definitely the placeto be.
If you guys are not members,please join us over there.
Speaker 5 (56:08):
You'll get to hear all I was swatted this weekend.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
Yeah, all that too.
So those are the three thingswe're covering over there.
I got this dave ramsey clip isso insane to me.
This woman, 34 years old,marries a 51 year old
millionaire.
He makes her sign a prenup andwhen you hear the marriage
advice dave ramsey gives and itall comes down to money, and I'm
just sitting there listeninglike what?
Like why would this guy offerthis advice to her?
(56:32):
This is so insane.
He has no idea he's hearingthis woman for 30 seconds and
just believes her story.
Speaker 5 (56:39):
It just sounds preposterous and this is all
coming down to you.
Speaker 4 (56:44):
Just don't, you don't believe I don't believe a word
out of this woman's mouth Idon't believe her.
Speaker 5 (56:49):
I think she's a liar and I don't believe all you've
heard is the exact same 30seconds as him.
Speaker 4 (56:55):
He's just I just know , I know that this woman's lying
, like I just know she's.
She's framing it the way shewants to frame it to make
herself sound like she's thispoor, innocent victim.
And dave ramsey's like you.
You, this is, this is no, no,you have to do this.
Wait till you hear his advice.
It's insane, okay, I wonder, isdave ramsey on his first
(57:16):
marriage too like?
I don't think anybody that'sthat too.
I don't think anybody thattheir first marriage didn't work
out should be giving marriageadvice to anybody.
That's just how I feel we'regoing to go over to the other
side.
If you guys are not over there,you're missing out.
we have the most mustaches per capita of any
catholic show um you, you me,john caleb, we all have
mustaches we all have mustachesit's the Zoomer mustache.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's the Zoomer mustache.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Oh boy, oh man.
Really, really, Anthony really,really, anthony, I gotta tell
you I don't get the freddiemercury look-alike contest these
young kids got going on.
(00:53):
It's the worst look ever.
If you're not like tom selleck,you can't pull it off.
I don't get it and the irony ofthat.
Coming from an italian, I'm justsaying I don't understand the
mustache.
Look, I don't.
I I don't know.
It's funny.
I don't think a single girlfinds it attractive either.
It's just all guys telling eachother they look good in it and
none of them look good in it.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I don't get it is this maybe why the zoomers?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
have trouble dating.
It might be.
I think if you guys all shavedyour mustaches, you all get
married quick.
But uh, what a wild day, man.
I didn't know.
When I woke up this morning Ihad no idea what we were going
to talk about.
I was like I I hadn't.
I was like we have to discusslofton becoming a lay cardinal.
We have to discuss him.
(01:37):
He runs the curia now likethat's it he's.
He's basically tellingeverybody we're on notice.
He made a lot of newconnections.
I'm like all right, so wedefinitely got to talk about
that.
And then, freaking, sarah Stockgoes and just all she did was
posted a picture of herengagement ring and, holy hell,
broke loose.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
So is this going to be another episode where, if you
don't, if you're not on Twitter, you might as well not even
watch it?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, if you're not on Twitter, you missed out on a
lot of drama today, but then Ido have.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Now that's gonna be like the first if you don't like
twitter because of all thedrama, we're bringing it right
to you guys exactly, but Iactually I have, um, we have a
couple things.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Um, we have the this idiot woman, uh, uh, talking
about how, how the incancivilization was so civilized we
, we could play that clip.
I have two parts to that.
Then I have this woman In 1993,her husband disappeared without
a trace.
Ten years later they declaredhim deceased.
So she moves on and getsremarried 23 years after he
(02:40):
disappeared originally.
So 13 years after she getsmarried she gets a call that
he's alive.
He disappeared originally.
So 13 years after she getsmarried, she gets a call that
he's alive.
So I I asked is is she now inan adulterous relationship with
her new husband?
It's an interest, it's aninteresting she did get
remarried the guy disappears.
They can't find them anywhere.
10 years later he gets declareddead.
(03:02):
So she then gets remarried andhas kids with this new guy.
And 13 years after she getsmarried so 23 years after he
disappears she gets a call fromdetectives.
The guy got arrested forsomething and when they
fingerprinted him they found hisfingerprint match from his
original identity.
It's a whole story, but I justI thought it was interesting so
(03:25):
I asked is the original marriagevalid and is her second
marriage invalid and does that?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
well, it all depends relationship the whether or not
the first marriage is valid hasvery little to do with the
disappearance right we'll getinto it when we play the clip.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
It's an interesting clip Really.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
it doesn't matter either way, because she's
probably going to kill him.
So you know what I mean.
Well, we'll get into that.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So that's an interesting one.
Then we have people makingtheir dead children into AI
interviews.
And then I have the most insaneDave Ramsey advice clip I've
ever heard in my life like themost mind-bogglingly insane.
I don't know what he wasthinking.
(04:14):
It's not even financial advice,it's basically marriage advice
and I'm baffled by it and Ithink you guys will enjoy it so
boomers, but so um an ai.
It's been a long week already,that's another one, so all right
, so let's let's discuss michaellofton going to oh, before we
have any, we don't have any.
We don't have anything topromote anymore.
(04:36):
It's just like, like andsubscribe, that's it we do have
that go fund me though yeah, wecould mention that there's a is
a young guy, 31 years old, whopassed away.
His wife was a stay at home momand they're going to be in for
some hard times.
So Rob will post the Gibson Goif you guys want to help them
(04:56):
out.
Catholic family few kids,mothers all on her own now.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
So yeah, I mean 31 years old, has a heart attack.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Um, yeah, no, like he was out of shape.
You know, the first question Iprobably see is everybody's
still doesn't.
Um, so I don't like most of DaveRamsey's marriage advice clips.
You're really not going to likethis one.
You're really not going to likethis one.
So, um, yeah, I think I thinkthis is true.
I think Lofton won.
He played the long game.
(05:26):
He, uh, you know, he went andhe talked about how Muslims are
going to heaven.
Uh, and he played the long gameand they invited him to the
Vatican and now he made a bunchof.
He made a.
He's basically running thecurious.
So why don't we go to his feed?
Let's, let's start with hisinterview with Franco, and we're
going to break Franco's chops alittle bit here.
(05:49):
We have to, Because I likeFranco, but it's pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
So where am I going?
Did you send me something?
Go to.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Lofton's feed and then scroll down, because he
tweeted a lot today.
He's very chatty today and I'mblocked so I can't send you the
link to his tweet into the shownotes.
So you have to actually just goto his feed, scroll down and
then pull up the Francointerview.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
The Franco interview, the one with him, and that Iron
Inquisitor guy?
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
We didn't lose our sponsor.
Our sponsor can't ship in thesummer, so they're coming back
in the fall.
Don't worry, we have somethings in the works we can't
talk about yet.
There's going to be some bignews coming soon.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, the big news is that they can't ship in the
fall either, probably.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
That would be our luck.
All right, Lofton won.
All right, let's see.
Do we have to watch this?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
All right, so I'm here at the Vatican with two
heavy hitters, franco and theIron Inquisitor Franco.
Let me start with you.
Tell me what do you think sofar about your experience at the
Vatican.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I mean like to be honest, this whole place mogs
like literally any otherbuilding locations ever.
Like the amount of arts.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
This is so bad Franco and mogs.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
This is the ambassadors they're bringing to
the vatican for social media.
I'm sorry guys, come on we'retalking about the vatican and I
love you, franco, but come onnow, you can't, you can't be
serious with this.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh play the rest of it like it's like as if someone
was performing at 200, over andover and over and, over and over
again.
The amount of art here isincredible, like it just shows,
I mean, it's, it's, it's soawesome to see how much the
catholic faith can be put ontothe arts.
And, of course, because thecatholicism is the one true
(08:01):
faith, right, the fullness ofthe faith, it just I mean all,
all this art is just I love howhe had to correct himself.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
He couldn't let him just say the one true faith.
He had to be like no, no, no,it's just the fullness of the oh
, I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I don't want to be me the franco.
I do like frank.
He's a good kid.
I've met him.
He has my phone number.
He'll be texting me.
We're just teasing you, franco.
Seriously, mogs.
These are the ambassadors inthe Vatican.
It's just wild.
I think there might be oneother video right near that one
(08:39):
that you can check out, whereLofton talks about how he made
some great Vaticanaticanconnections hold on, wait a
minute.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Oh, he is holding a microphone in his hand.
For a second it looked.
It looked like there wasnothing in his hand and he was
just using it as a prop oh no,he's got, but he's got a little
road.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Go to the video I think it's before that where uh,
yeah, it's the one before thatI made some great Vatican
connections.
This is where we're all introuble, because he was staying
in Cardinal's apartments andstuff.
I mean I think we're allgetting excommunicated.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Is it super prudential to have men staying
in?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh, stop, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
I don't think Michael Lofton is homosexual.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Oh, stop it.
I'm just saying, like the lasttime we heard about.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Cardinals apartments in the Vatican.
There was two stories One,burke, was getting kicked out of
his, and the one before thatwas the gay orgies.
They were having thedrug-fueled gay orgies they were
having he stayed in Coco.
Palmieri's apartment.
How smart it is to put theseinfluencers up with cardinals.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I don't know.
I don't know, maybe Imisunderstood.
Oh yeah, that's probably here'sthe thing.
All right, we'll play the clipand then I'll say I have some of
this.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Hey everyone, so wrapping it up here at the
Vatican, it's been an incredibleexperience First, off.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Michael, if your wife beater is visible through your
shirt, wear a different shirt.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Come on, you wear cargo shorts in Rome.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I'm a guy wearing a graphic T-shirt telling you
these things Do better.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I've had a lot of wonderful opportunities Got to
attend the Jubilee here and theconference for digital media
influencers.
I was also able to attend theVatican Secretariat of State,
got a really cool tour of theproperty as well as the ability
to make some really importantconnections, and over the course
(10:49):
of the coming days and weeksI'm going to take advantage of
that and offer some importantfeedback to the Vatican on the
situation in the Catholic Church, on social media and things
that I think.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Do you he's going gonna go to his vatican contacts
.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
this anthony abate goon needs to go well here's the
thing, everybody, because heoriginally like the reason I
even got caught on to this isbecause wagner like he made some
.
He was like he knew this washappening.
So like before it happened, heput out a video saying, like you
know, I told the vatican theyneed to consult me and I need to
help them.
And and wagner like went off onme.
(11:30):
He's like you, pompous,arrogant, whatever he's like.
How could you think you're soself-important?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
and then he was a good bait and switch by law.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So now, like everybody's, kind of like back
it off, because it's like, ohman, he went to rome, but me,
I'm like no, I'm never gonnaback off of him, I don't care,
now's the time to pile, justpile on him, I don't care, I
don't care, I'm not ever going.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
It's funny he's acting like he was given
something different thanliterally every other influencer
that went there.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, he's got he's got some important stuff to.
He gave some important feedback, but meanwhile he just filled
out a questionnaire like all therest of it.
I'm just kidding.
Michael, we wish you the best.
We're very happy for you.
You are the no, you are the newamerican correspondent for the
vatican communicationsdepartment.
This is wonderful news for you,um, but uh, do you think that
(12:23):
this is going to uh lead to thepope maybe addressing social
media and catholic contentcreators?
That's because that's kind ofwhat I'm thinking.
I'm thinking they had all theseguys come there.
We all know leo's got anencyclical coming.
(12:45):
Uh, we know he wants to addressai.
Do you think there will be somekind of an imprimatur coming
from rome for these catholicshows and things like that?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
I mean, if there is, it's going to be as useful as
the one for books.
If james martin's books can getone, then anyone and their mom
will be able to get him.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
You know one for yeah , besides treads that that won't
be allowed, but I think that'swhat might be coming.
But I also think that's whyit's it's smart to not.
Yeah, they're going to be likecatholic badges essentially
right.
So, like fred simon said, belike Catholic badges,
essentially right.
So, like Fred Simon said, belike verified badges.
Verified badges so that youknow that this is an approved.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Just as long as the biz LARPers are forced to have a
different badge, then I'm allfor it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yeah, I don't.
It's interesting that.
All right, well, I'll get offthe biz.
L bislop thing I don't want toget the uh, like I think that
that might be coming, because wedid hear I think it was baron
mentioned that like a couple ofyears ago, talking because they
were all getting very worriedabout the taylor marshalls and
(13:58):
the, the trad influencers thatwere coming up and stuff, and
they started talking about likehaving some kind of an
imprimatur for vatican approvedcatholic content, like on one
hand in a actual like healthycatholic world catholic church.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
It makes sense, right , I mean?
it does but in our currentchurch and current world, what's
going to happen when they handout these?
You know, like you said, these,um, um, I can't pronounce it,
but um, what, what happens whenthey hand them out to to?
(14:41):
You know, only the people thatare are uh reaching out to uh,
gays and trans, and you knowwhat they're going to do is
they're going to segregate thepeople they really need to reach
out to further from the church.
Right, they're like they're,it's it's going to create.
Yeah, it's going to segregatecatholic media even more than it
(15:01):
is yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And also like we're dealing with what with michael
hitchborn's report today, withthat bishop, like bringing up
that, that guy who is alreadysuspended.
He was living with another man,like he's reinstating him into
catholic, like those are theguys handing out these badges.
If that does happen, yeah,they're gonna be synodal
influencers, right, that'sexactly what they'll be like.
(15:24):
I really think that.
So everybody thought thesebadges, if that does happen,
yeah, they're going to besynodal influencers, that's
exactly what they'll be.
I really think that.
So everybody thought Loftin waslosing his mind with the stuff
when he was talking about howMuslims and Christians, like
Muslims, can actually get toheaven, not out of invincible
ignorance, but because of thegood things in their religion.
(15:45):
And I think he was doing thatto show the Vatican that he is
so on board with the.
You know, god wants thediversity of religions thing.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Well, it shows one of two things Either it shows that
he really was, you know, at onepoint a faithful Catholic and
really just has gone down areally really bad heterodox path
, or he really always was just abad faith grifter and has found
a path that is successful.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, that's an interesting one.
It's funny because, like he'sover there with all these
influencers but like he'suniversally disliked by him, by
other influencers and I'm noteven talking about like us and
like I mean like the people theanswers crowd doesn't like him
and uh, like and I'm not sayingnames specifically, but I'm just
telling you guys, nobody likeshim like I'm.
(16:41):
You know there might be acouple, but it's most of most of
the people doing this like that.
Not, and not because of histheology, it's more just because
of his smugness and becausehe's always turned on people.
Right, that it's his, it's hishorrific ability to maintain
friendships and, and everyonewho has ever, ever worked with
(17:02):
him, he has staffed him andanyone yeah, it's like I know
Eric Ibarra made up with him,but there were so many fallouts
from Lofton that it issurprising that they wanted to
even involve him in any way.
Now, the funny thing is he gotinvited because of Alex Harado
voice of reason.
So Alex Harado put his name outthere and got him invited there
(17:24):
.
And then, when the Alex Haradovoice of reason, so Alex Harado
put his name out there and gothim invited there.
And then, when the Alex Haradosituation happened, they
disinvited him.
Well, they wanted to disinvitehim, so they threw up these
obstacles.
They were like you've got toget a letter from your
metropolitan and hismetropolitan wrote the letter
and they still were trying togatekeep him out of it.
They really didn't want him inthere.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
What really weird to me and this is a complete,
kindly kind of a completelydifferent subject but alex first
started to get well known whenlofton helped him out.
(18:02):
Yeah, with alex go from that tohim being the one to get lofton
invited to the vatican in justa year or two uh, the alex's big
break was keith nestor puttinghim up to the james white debate
.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So they, they asked keith nestor, they asked keith
to do the debate with jameswhite and jane, and keith said
no, I think I'm gonna pass onthat, but I have somebody
that'll be good for it.
So he put alex's name up thereand then and then, after
everybody saw his debate withjames white, they were like, oh
okay, this kid can handlehimself and he can hold his own
any.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I mean it's james white right.
Any catholic since the 90sshould be able to handle james
white pretty easily yeah, butthey're rob that.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
They're looking for someone to pass the baton to,
like they really I know itshould.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
The whole voice of reason thing seems so um, not
fabricated, but really you knowwhat I mean.
Like it wasn't organic.
His, his rise was not organic,it seems like it was I feel like
that's pushed from behind thescenes I feel like there's a lot
of guys like that.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I'm not gonna say names, but I feel like a lot of
them like I don't feel like alot of them had organic growth
like it's, so what it's what Ithink is Orchestrated.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yes, molly, exactly Orchestrated.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I, I AstroTurf is a good way to say it.
So look they are all.
Look the Scott Hans and theJeff Cavins and even the, like
the old, the, the, thegraduating class of the nins and
2000s.
Like those guys are all gettingolder now.
And you know there's an endlesssupply of the Steubenville
(19:51):
crowd, but they're all gettingolder now.
So, like even Dr John Bergsmaand Brant Petrie, like those
guys are just aging out and andCatholic answer specifically
needs a group of younger guys tokind of fill those shoes.
So I think there is like a newclass of kids coming up.
(20:15):
I mean you got sips with Sarah,you got Cameron Riker, you got
everybody that was at thatinfluencer conference that Kyle
posted.
But I do think Alex was theirtop guy guy.
I mean he was the one that theywere bringing.
I mean he was on lila rose'spodcast, he was on frad's
podcast.
He was the guy they were forlack of a better term grooming
to be that next guy and thatkind of fell apart.
(20:37):
So I'm curious to know whatthey're going to do next.
But I'm telling y'all, lila isheavily involved with this stuff
.
It's from her where the moneyflows.
That's very possible.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I mean, she puts what millions of dollars into her
own podcast.
Yeah, to get these, not muchmore than ours.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
No, I know, Scott Hahn's the class of the 80s,
that's not what I mean.
So he was popular from the 80suntil the 2010s.
He still is Scott Hahn, don'tget me wrong.
But until the 2010s, he stillis Scott Hahn, don't get me
wrong.
But they do need a new crop ofguys that are younger, and I
think they're all looking forwho to go with, and I think the
problem for them is that some ofthe guys who are actually good
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at this and are captivating forthe audience are also have some
fiery opinions about the Jewishquestion or they have some fiery
takes on other influencers andthey, you know, they might say
something controversial aboutother guys and stuff like that.
So it's it's not an easy, aneasy thing for them to figure
out.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
So the real question is Wagner goes to this
conference, right, did they flipthem?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Um, did they flip him ?
Did they flip Wagner?
Yeah, I mean I think I thinkhim and Amber are besties.
Now, right, I mean we saw thepictures.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Oh the mighty have fallen far.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I love Wagner.
But, man, what were youthinking with that picture,
christian?
What were you thinking?
I had somebody reach out to metoday and say that they could,
if I wanted they could, getAmber on this show to discuss
the e-girl controversy.
Is he absolutely insane?
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Like, does he actually thinkthat would ever happen?
Like some of you guys justdon't know this show, I guess I
don't know.
Yes, but that's why I thinkWagner would have been a very
good fit for them, right, likewagner is kind of in that mold.
(22:44):
Um, I'll tell you a little bitof lore.
My, my wife occasionallywatches amber what my wife told
me yesterday.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
You stole a lot of internet after she goes.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
She goes, I don't know.
I watched it the other day.
She's not that bad.
I'm like don't you dare putthat crap on my computer.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
You know what.
They're going to accept yourproposal for history checks to
be a Catholic influencer andwe're all going to see the Amber
Rose on your history.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, no, I was making fun of her a little bit.
For that, the Amber Rose.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Yeah, yeah, no, I was making fun of her a little bit
for that, but yeah, I don't know, man, I I I'm curious to see
how this whole thing pans outwith Leo's next encyclical.
I'm curious to see how theyhandle Catholic social media
because I think part of thereason they brought Leo in as
the American Pope was to get abit of control over the american
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media.
I think it was way out of handfor them.
They, like their biggestobstacle was the american
catholic media enterprise.
That was trad media yeah, butit was.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
That was the way under jp22 and Ratzinger.
It was just the other side ofthe American.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Catholic media, but that's the point.
So they want American media ontheir side.
Look, you still had EWTN,national Catholic Register,
national Catholic Reporter.
You still had a verysignificant portion of catholic
media.
Who towed the line?
They?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
had?
Under which way?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
under francis.
Okay, they had way less trafficthan anybody on the other side.
That was like more traffic ohyeah, for sure speaking out
against this stuff for sure,because the majority of faithful
american catholics were furiouswith Francis.
So you had, you, had your, youknow your.
It's funny when we went toItaly, we were there with
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another American pilgrimage fromTexas and they were just normie
, nova Sordo, parish, goingCatholics.
They had no idea any of thestuff with France, like they
didn't even pay attention toRome at all, they were just very
present in their parish andthey didn't know any of the
stuff that we knew.
And when we went to the PadrePio shrine and the Rupnik art
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was there, they were like,looking at the art, like it was
like, oh, this isn't bad, youknow.
And then when we told them thebackstory of it, they were like,
oh my gosh, this is horrific.
They were so unbelievablyappalled once we started telling
them the story behind theRupnik art.
So the thing is a lot of normies.
Don't read any Catholic news.
The only people that actuallypaid attention to the news were
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the people who were really upsetwith the direction Francis was
going in.
So now you have Leo comes in.
He's the American pope, he'sgoing to kind of get the
Americanolic media to tame itdown a bit and they are going to
have official missionaries,official digital missionaries,
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that they will send out into theworld to push their message
yeah, all the people wearingt-shirts and jeans at mass in
the vatican are going to begreat missionaries.
I I mean, a lot of people doconsume that kind of stuff.
New to the show, anthony, whereshould I go to Mass on Long
Island?
There's three places you couldgo St Michael's in Farmingville
is an SSPX chapel.
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St Matthew's in Dix Hills thefirst and third Sunday has a
Latin Mass and then St Rocco'sin Glen Ce every Sunday has an
1130 Latin mass and then, ifyou're not far from the city,
you could go to Holy Innocencein Manette.
But yes, st Rocco's is theideal, but for sure, if you're
(26:28):
close to, close enough to StRocco's, definitely.
So yeah, it'll be interesting tosee how Leo handles this next
encyclical and, if it has, if itdoes address AI and, if so, if
it also addresses mediapersonalities and how they
should handle things goingforward, because I've already
seen one or two things wherethey were talking about how like
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Catholic media should be tolift up and it shouldn't be to
knock down and things like that.
So I think we're disqualifiedright off the bat, because we
started this show off picking onother people and I mean we're
just having fun with it andgooping around.
I don't know what to tell youguys.
We're a little different thaneverybody else.
That's just the way it goes,all right.
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So we can, we will, we willwait and see how Leo proceeds.
We'll wait and see how theVatican proceeds.
I'm curious to see how it goes.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
It'll be interesting.
Yeah, I think so At least it'sgoing to be different than the
last 12 years, even if, you know, I'm not saying it's
necessarily going to be better,but it will be different.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, for a time, at least For a time different.
Yeah, for for a time, at leastfor a time right for a time at
least, I'm.
I'm still waiting for the unitything to like.
It just cannot continue, foreverybody's claiming leo is
their guy I don't know it was.
These people think he's francisthe second.
These people think he'sbenedict xvii.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Nobody thinks he's leo it's interesting it will be
interesting to see what thefirst encyclical and stuff is
like bobby will smite you.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
He's not allowed to go byzantine if he's on long
island, it's not happening.
Um, okay, so, uh, catholice-girls psychopathy.
We have to at least address itfor a second.
So I think I sent one of thetweets here um, yeah, the, the,
oh, my gosh, look, okay, we haveto actually preface this.
Not safe for work if you havechildren around.
(28:31):
There is going to be somepretty harsh things that these
girls said to each other if youhave children around.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Not appropriate, I'm just going to tell you well, we,
we're not gonna say it right,we're just gonna show it on
screen.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I'll abbreviate it or we'll just show it on screen.
We will make sure.
Well, I mean look, yes, if youhave kids, we're not gonna say
anything.
We, we shouldn't.
It's just, these girls were notvery kind to sarah stop well,
to be fair, they're not even allcatholic, thank you mimi very
much appreciated, it's not likenecessarily catholic e-girl,
it's right wing e-girl stuff,which is interesting.
(29:04):
So, um, all right, just clickon the tweet I I sent and I
think we could follow it backlet me zoom in.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Oh wow, it really.
I did not see all of it oh yeah, it gets pretty hairy.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
these girls were not very kind, so click on it and
then scroll up a little to thepicture.
Show it on screen.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I'm just getting it framed before I put it on screen
.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
You've been terrible tonight, jamie.
Okay, that's not framed verywell.
What kind of framing is that?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
so this was sarah stock.
Right, sarah stock prefers.
I mean, most of you peoplearen't going to know these women
at all, so so sarah stock is arecent convert.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Um, she's been on that jubilee show a few times.
Uh, she was at the contentcreator conference um.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
She was on the charity stream for the
Belthinians too.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yes, she was also at Lila Rose's thing out in
California, the Women LeadershipConference, which you know.
Whatever, we'll forgive her forthat.
So scroll up a little so we cansee what her actual tweet was.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Click the picture.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Rob, just click the picture, there you go.
You click the picture.
Rob.
Just click the picture, thereyou go.
You click the picture there.
That's how this works.
Do I gotta teach you how to usethe internet?
I'm boomer.
Rob doesn't know.
If you click the picture, thetweet will come up.
So she tweeted.
I won now scroll down on thepicture so we can keep going.
And so, emily, save America.
(31:00):
Who is this awful woman?
Awful, awful woman.
She's.
This conservative influencermakes a comment like that, the
ring size with a skull after.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
It's called good or bad in Zuma language.
What do you?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
mean.
She's saying the ring is small,right, yeah, she's making fun
of her for the ring size.
So the guy, the guy thatproposed her, she's making fun
of her for the ring size.
Like there's something aboutwomen in engagement rings.
That is kind of appalling, thatlike something about women that
is just kind of appalling.
(31:37):
Well, that's what we're goingthrough.
We want to just go through howvicious women are to each other.
Um like, there's nothing wrongwith a, uh like, a classy small
engagement ring, especially ifthat's the guy can afford, and
she's looking for a goodcatholic man, and they're gonna
make things work.
And you know they don't want todump their future on a ring.
So so so Emily makes fun of herfor the ring size.
(31:58):
So now zoom out of the picture.
And another scroll up.
Now another influencer, morganAriel, another right winger,
says you give it up for free.
Ho, you might want to sit thisone out To Emily, to Emily girl,
but then, if you scroll downand look at what pearl said, we
(32:19):
have to figure out how we'regoing to say this morgan, you
are this one's not.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
It's the ones after this that we are very bad.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, morgan, you are a single mother with a public
video admitting you have uh hpvit's okay to say an acronym hpv.
Yeah, you may want to sit thisone out.
Keep going down uh, do we?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
we really you think it's that?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
bad maybe.
Maybe I can see it on my endand I'll see, yeah, we can't,
yeah, don't show that actually.
So they then go in and startgetting on pearl for some of her
past choices.
Uh, it just gets so vicious allof this and it comes down to, I
(33:03):
think, that women have a hardtime just being happy for
another woman.
It's like the girl she did wassaying I'm engaged, instead of
everybody just saying, oh,congratulations I.
I don't think that's whatyou're supposed to say to a
woman.
I think you're supposed to say,uh, good luck or something.
I don't know whatever you'resupposed to say.
I don't think that's whatyou're supposed to say to a
woman.
I think you're supposed to saygood luck or something.
I don't know Whatever you'resupposed to say.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I don't know if.
Good luck, congratulations.
I would just saycongratulations.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Best wishes or something.
Yeah, I don't know.
I heard somebody said somethingabout like you're not supposed
to say congratulations to theguy.
I don't know I need thesestupid rules, but I found it
interesting that these womencould not just be happy for
their fellow sister and just saycongratulations.
It's like there's an entitybetween all of them.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
It says our eyes have fried all their brains and they
don't know how to be happy atall.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
in general, it is strange.
Look, I will say Pearl's awful,don't get me wrong, I'm not
trying to, but she does have aninteresting take that women and
I'm not saying this is withSarah there, but just she has
this take where she thinks womenview things husbands do for
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them as just ways to show off toother women is like status
symbols, it's like it's likeit's not actually about that.
They're grateful for the gift.
They just can't wait to show itoff to other women, and I have
noticed that to be a bit true.
So maybe you ladies should keepan eye on that.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
No comment, rob my grandpa always said if you don't
have anything nice to say,don't say anything you picked
the wrong person to do a showwith buddy.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
All right, like I, just I don't know all right, so
here's what we're gonna do weare going to go there is no
difference between aconservative woman quote-unquote
and a liberal woman yeah, atthis point, there's not.
There's just not, yeah, they are.
They are all feminists at thispoint.
So it's like what are they?
It's they conservative womennowadays, especially
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conservative influencer women.
It's basically like oh, I liketrump and that makes you a
conservative, and it's liketrump's a liberal, so I don't
the only difference is whetheror not they want to take
testosterone to start becoming aguy.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
If they do, they're a liberal woman.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
If they don't, they're conservative woman it's
really just about politics likeit's.
It's not about actualconservative values.
It's just about who they votefor that makes them conservative
and if right and if they andwhere they land on the trans
issue, like that's whatdetermines whether they're a
liberal or conservative yeah,100 yeah it's, it's like well,
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if you think, if you think menshouldn't compete in women's
sports, then you're, you knowthat's.
That's the argument.
That's where we are at thispoint.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I don't know we're not really including sarah in
this, because she was the she,yes, her picture just instigated
all the reaction.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
We're so, we're also giving her leeway because she
just became catholic and sheseems like she's becoming aware
of a lot of things and she seemsvery open to understanding the
problems at hand.
So I'm not going to startbashing somebody who seems to be
open to it.
She's she doesn't come off asoverly obnoxious and an
attention seeker as that Like tome yet.
(36:14):
So I mean I'm, you know, I'mnot, I'm not whatever.
I don't like any e-girls.
I'm not ever having her on hershow or anything.
I'm just, I'm just saying she's, she's not awful yet.
We'll give her some time yet.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Um, yeah, she basically has a year, a year to
get offline.
If she gets offline in a year,he was a good one.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Somebody said somebody said when they saw that
they were just like somebody,somebody like all of them, their
husbands need to just tell themto get off, get off the
internet, because there'sthere's one girl, um, I forget
who, what her name is.
She is so freaking annoying andobnoxious and she's putting on
this larp as if she's a tradwife and she throws the N word
(36:57):
around all the time and stuffand it's like you are so
freaking annoying to me.
Like I can't stand the the theway these women comport
themselves in public.
Like I don't.
I don't think it's wrong tohave a Twitter account.
Like I don't.
Like I have plenty of normaldecent interactions with women
on Twitter.
It's when they want to be thesesuper big influencers and then
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they start telling everybodytheir opinions and all this
stuff.
That's when it kind of gets alittle out of hand.
What did molly say?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I was just saying you were saying that it's okay for
women to have a twitter accountsome of them are good and I was
like, like molly right?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
no, there's plenty of women I interact with on
twitter that are just there likeI'll throw a comment here,
comment there, but they're nottrying to be these superstars
online and trying to like like.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
The idea that a trad wife is going to be the
breadwinner through her socialmedia is absurd to me, you know
the internet was a much betterplace when a woman had to decide
whether she wanted to go onlineor use the phone yeah, because
it was on the same line, right.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
So they usually pick, use the phone and didn't use
the internet.
Um, what do you?
What do you think about?
Because we've been talkingabout ai a lot do you think
women are in trouble with thecoming AI revolution, because it
seems like most of the jobsthat are going to be replaced
are these silly jobs that womenhave done for the better part of
(38:29):
30, 40 years, like they're alloffice jobs and things like that
.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
On one hand, it is strange that AI, which is going
to be incredibly disruptive anddestructive, could also be the
thing that destroys a two-incomehousehold.
Right, because you're right, alot of the jobs that we'll
destroy are ones that women arelargely predominantly you know a
part of, but, at the same time,it's not like most of those
jobs honestly, like today, areeven necessary.
Right, it's almost like you seeit online.
(39:10):
People will say like most ofthese jobs were invented to
basically you know it's paidcare for women, so women don't
go have kids.
You know's like daycare care forwomen, so women don't go have
kids.
You know more or less.
So I have no doubt that humaningenuity, human ingenuity will
invent a whole new cadre ofuseless jobs yeah, for we'll see
(39:31):
how it goes all right I want.
Ai in general is dangerous.
It almost got me killed thisweekend, so we'll do.
We're gonna do that on localsthat's actually a really
interesting story.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
We'll release that as a.
This weekend we're going to dothat on Locals.
That's actually reallyinteresting.
We'll release that as a cliplater on, but I want to do that
on Locals.
I do want to do the woman withthe divorce thing or the woman
with the dead husband thing.
Okay, let's bring that clip up.
Everybody that's still around.
This is a very interesting clip.
It raises a lot of moralquestions and, uh, if you guys
(40:01):
did not see this video yet, itis pretty interesting and we're
going to get into discussing it.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
It's actually are we going to get a copyright?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
it's abc nightline.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
It's from 10 years ago, I don't know okay otherwise
if there's something else wecould do, and do this on locals
um we can do.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
What about that other woman clip?
We'll do the inca.
The inca thing depends.
What sort of words are yougoing to use?
For them well, let's, let's,let's see what she says above
that in the show notes,uncivilized, it says all right,
if you, alright, if you guyswant to see that other clip, you
guys can come over to Locals.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Maybe we'll release it later after Rob runs it, that
one or the one for Matt Walsh,or is that the same?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
No, no, no, matt Walsh is the one, for Matt Walsh
is part two, that's part two,so the one above that is part
one okay, here we go no, youdon't go to locals now, steve.
We'll tell you when.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
We'll tell you when also so people know, we did stop
releasing the full podcast onwell, the full show on audio
podcast.
But for those of you who dojust listen and don't watch the
videos and you don't want to payfive dollars for locals, you
(41:19):
can subscribe for three dollarsa month to listen to the full
audio.
I was getting this grip,thought I love it.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Yeah, we did it our first person subscribe.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Oh, also the store.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
The store is back up oh, rob got the merch fixed yeah
, we're.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
We have to rebuild every listing so there's only
like three options available nowfor shirts.
But we'll, we'll get thatrebuilt you are able to get your
.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Have you accepted, mary, as your personal mother
and intercessor?
And you're religious, notspiritual we are also going to
get a uh, I have been blocked byfather james martin.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Shirt coming we should also do a reason in
theology, one too, and we shouldget.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
I've been blocked by reason in theology, for sure we
gotta do something with law,then come on.
He's definitely gonna be amoney maker for us, um okay, we
ready for this all right, let'sgo you were telling me.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
The spanish looked at this and said uncivilized.
The inca built the morayterraces as an agricultural
laboratory, because eachseparate circle created a
different microclimate so theycould figure out exactly what to
grow at what elevation.
The inca who cultivated 44types of corn and 4 000 types of
potatoes.
The inca who built this stuff600 years ago and it is still
(42:36):
standing because it's allearthquake only 600 the Only 600
years ago.
The Inca, who created salt flatsthat still, to this day, aren't
privatized.
They're all sharing it from thesame hot spring in the mountain
and everyone gets a share, notto mention Coricancha, machu
Picchu, the fact that all oftheir cities were made
intentionally in the shapes ofanimals that were important to
(42:56):
them.
This reminds me of exactly whathappened in tenochtitlan.
When cortez laid eyes on thatcity for the first time, he
wrote in his diary that thetemples were grander than
anything he would have seen insevilla.
Yeah, you're telling me, thespanish saw this and they said
nah, inferior.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Yeah, then they tore it down with 100 guys.
That's it.
That's all it took.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
The okay.
Civilized, the word civilized.
You're talking about people whowould murder innocent children
and offer them as sacrifice.
You're talking about people whosacrifice virgins.
The Inca actually made earthencakes of dung and roasted them
(43:45):
in the sun.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
Read it in her voice the Inca who made earthen cakes
of dung and roasted them in thesun.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
This is such a dumb way to look at things.
A dumb way to look at things.
Um, there were always grandcivilizations, if you want to
use that word, but likecivilized the way you would
think is plus, just I mean ohyeah, they made these buildings
(44:14):
600 years ago.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Yeah, but the europeans sailed halfway around
the world from build from theirown buildings that they had made
1400 years before that she was,she's going to destroy these
civilizations with 100 guys,like it doesn't compare oxford
is older than this place likethat's you have to understand.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
So she's talking, she's bringing about this
happening.
600 years ago we haduniversities and we had
hospitals oh, yay, they made.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
They had 4,000 types of potatoes.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
They still starve to death all the time and these
temples that they built was withslave labor that they it's just
the idea that what we broughtto them was what we brought to
them was salvation, because theycould then actually be freed up
(45:08):
to learn and live in a way thatis like we live.
I don't even want to say nowlike, because what was happening
at at during the middle ages itwas just this, this boom of
seeing women have dignity andthat there's just so much to to
to go along with it, and it'syou're just not sacrificing
(45:30):
human beings.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
The civilization that God deigned to come into the
world, into right, had aquifersor not aquifers, aqueducts that
carried water hundreds of milesthrough mountains, like they dug
through mountains to carry thiswater at the exact same angle,
(45:53):
over the hundreds and hundredsof miles, so that it would
create running fountains in thecity of rome from the alps to
rome at the same angle, throughliteral mountains done to almost
2 000 years before, beforetheir stupid step pyramids.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
Yeah, it's not about okay, cool they.
They figured out how to growcorn and they built some cool
stuff.
I, I mean you.
You go back 5,000 years and youhave cool stuff being built.
It doesn't it doesn't mean theyshouldn't have been evangelized
and had the gospel brought tothem, because the gospel is
actually what civilizes man.
So she could call itcivilization, as you could say.
(46:33):
They're civilized.
But no, they actually weren't.
They were hacking each other todeath and they were roaming
bands of I mean, go watchApocalypto.
That's what these people weredealing with.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Yeah, they had cool gardens guys.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
What's the point of having 4,000 types of potatoes
if you don't know how to makeFrench fries?
Who made French fries?
I'll give you a hint it wasn'tthe Incas.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
All right, so go down to Matt Walsh's tweet, because
that's part two to this, and soshe caught a bunch of flack for
her post, so I think she triesto respond and then we can
actually read what Matt Walshsaid, because he did a better
job than I will.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
I will die on this hill.
I'm specifically talking aboutthe Ingi here.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
You will die on that hill and they will sacrifice you
for it Like come on the ironyof saying that the irony of
saying that because I will dieon this hill is actually
probably.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
That hill, that one right there.
Yeah that they sacrifice peopleon.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
You're going to die on that one, machu Picchu.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
That's where you're gonna die on it.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
They'll give your body to the 4 000 types of
potatoes.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
You won't be the only one who died there many people
died on that hill, honey, don'tworry, 40 000 in one day.
Who knew about?
Speaker 3 (47:50):
the mashika.
That's a whole separate type ofsacrifice if we're just looking
at to want and sue you, thequechua people, the incan empire
she's just making up words.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
She's got to be just making up words.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
They practiced sacrifices, like most other
civilizations throughout historydid, in times of crisis, so
famine, natural disasters.
But the unique thing about theQuechua is that when you're
looking at like the Incancivilization, you essentially
have the elites and then youhave everyone else.
You essentially have the elitesand then you have everyone else
.
Sacrifices were volunteers fromthe elite class, because they
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believe that the elites werecloser to the gods and could
therefore appease them better.
Also, in terms of sacrifice,they were kind about it.
Hear me out, because, unlikethe Mashika, when you're like
ripping out a still beatingheart out of someone's chest,
the Inca would intentionally usecoca leaves and would use
chicha and would get a real highsacrifice and then leave them
(48:45):
on a mountain, a cold, chillymountain, to be exposed to the
elements which, if you're avolunteer, sacrifice.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
I say we heavily drug this woman and leave her out in
the cold for a night.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
No, no, no but think about what she says.
This civilization, like allcivilizations, offered sacrifice
.
These people don't understandthe greatness of the gospel
spreading throughout the world.
Yes, every civilization hadthese awful sacrifices, where
they sacrificed human beings,where they murdered innocent
people, where virgins holyvirgins were saved and they
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would sacrifice these virgins,who were pure, which is funny,
because even the ancient pagansunderstood that there was
something pure about virginsthat Protestants don't
understand.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
I just think it's funny.
On the first clip she's tryingto tell us how wonderful the
civilization was, because theywere all kind of communists and
had salt flats and they all wereequal.
But in this one she's like oh,but the elites who were, who
were actually closer to God,they make up your flip in mind.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Are they good, are they?
Speaker 5 (49:49):
good, because they aren't commies.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
It's just.
It's just this whole, thiswhole.
What do they call it?
The colonization right.
Imagine sacrificing.
Well, you know what.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
She's actually got a good idea.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Might be on to something.
Maybe the elites do need to besacrificed right now.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
Biden's already high off his mind.
Let's give Trump some coke andgo leave him on a mountain
somewhere.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
So Matt Wall says.
History teacher on TikTok saysthat the Incan child sacrifices
were kind and voluntary.
Children were merely left tofreeze to death, which isn't so
bad when you think about it.
She blames white people forhaving a judgmental view of
human sacrifice.
No, it's what it really is.
Needless to say, the claim thateight year old kids volunteered
(50:33):
to die of starvation andhypothermia is insane.
These are the kinds of moralmonsters that teach your
children and public schools.
But matt's even missingsomething, because this is the
glory of the gospel spreadingthroughout the world.
Right you, when you get intothese ancient cultures, every
one of them did have humansacrifice, every one of them.
(50:54):
If there were children who wereborn with any kind of deformity
, especially the Greeks, theGreeks would just leave any
child out to die in the elements.
Speaker 5 (51:05):
Now you have Iceland, who has got alternative Down
syndrome by aborting every fetusthat has positive.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yeah, that's their idea of curing Down syndrome.
You just go back to the way thepagans lived down syndrome.
You just go back to the way thepagans lived.
Now, the thing that spurred onso much evangelism in the early
church was that the earlyChristians would pick these
children up off the side of theroad when they were left to die.
(51:32):
And the idea of an orphanage isa Christian idea.
The Christians would take thesechildren who were going to be
thrown away and they would raisethese children with love and
they would be cared for.
And this is what Jesus meant by.
He said they will know you byyour love.
And when people saw how theycared for the downtrodden and
(51:57):
the throwaways of the world,it's actually what moved
people's hearts to actually wantto believe in the gospel.
So much so that when Julian theapostate tries to reinvigorate
the pagan rituals, he makes someof the pagan gods, like the
(52:17):
priests of the pagan cults,start to care for the poor,
because that's what's attractingso many people to christianity.
And he tries to make it soundlike that these cults always did
that when they never did.
It was just something he sawthat was so attractive to people
that he started telling thesepriests no, no, you have to
start caring for the poor anddoing things like this and try
to mimic some of the good partsof christianity, which is also
(52:40):
what you see in modern movementslike blm and things like that,
where they try to make it seemlike they are caring for the
people who are in need, or eventhe lgbt movement.
It's a mockery of christianity.
They mimic it in trying to likeemulate compassion when it's a
false compassion.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
So, um, this is what happenswhen the gospel spreads
(53:03):
throughout the world.
Is you get rid of these ancientcults where the human sacrifices
performed in these evil thingsare done?
And not just that the likemarriage.
We have a tendency to saythings like marriage predates
religion.
And you know, marriage issomething that transcends
(53:25):
cultures and it's ubiquitousthroughout humanity.
But it's not really.
Yes, it is where a man wouldclaim a woman for himself, but
for the most part of humanhistory, it was polygamy, it was
one man would have multiplewives and things like that.
It was Christianity thatstarted putting these demands on
men, saying, no, you can onlyhave one wife and you can't
(53:45):
divorce her.
You can't just get rid of herwhen you're done with her.
And this is actually whatelevates the dignity of women
and puts it where, and that hasto do with us seeing Our Lady as
the crown of God's creation.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
So if Our Lady has that much dignity, that elevates
the dignity of all women.
Yeah, people don't understandthat a well-ordered patriarchy
actually exists in order toprotect women.
Because in societies that arematriarchies and are matrilineal
to, where you trace descentdescent through your mother's
line, and this includes, um,this includes judaism right,
(54:22):
they, you are a jew if yourmother is a jew.
Yes, the reason those societiestrace descent through their
mother lot, their mother's line,is because, more or less, rape
was so common that you neverknew who your father was.
You only knew who your motherwas, so you could only trace
(54:45):
your descent through your mother.
So we see a lot of NativeAmerican tribes that are
matrilineal and they'recelebrated as being these great,
you know, enlightenedmatriarchies.
No, no, no, the men were rapingall the women they wanted, and
you only knew who your motherwas.
You never knew who your fatherwas.
Yeah, and, and, and.
(55:06):
That's like that's what apatriarchy is for to.
To protect the women, toprotect society, protect
children, all under strong men.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
You're starting to see that, as as patriarchy
disappears, how women are nolonger respected and they are
being degraded and they're doingthings that you would you would
have found horrific 50, 60years ago, but now this is like
totally normal and it's often atthe hands of other women too.
Speaker 5 (55:31):
Yeah, right, which we remember.
We just saw that with the wholesarah stock pearl thing yeah,
yeah, it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
So, all right, now I want to do two things over on
the other side.
I want to do the Dave Ramseyclip because it's pretty insane,
and then I want to do the womanwith her husband.
So we're going to go over tolocals.
I'm going to do those twosegments because I don't want to
get hit with copyrights oneither one of those videos.
So if you guys are not Localsmembers, that's where we
(56:00):
actually get to say things alittle more freely.
We get to have more fun overthere.
Locals is definitely the placeto be.
If you guys are not members,please join us over there.
Speaker 5 (56:08):
You'll get to hear all I was swatted this weekend.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
Yeah, all that too.
So those are the three thingswe're covering over there.
I got this dave ramsey clip isso insane to me.
This woman, 34 years old,marries a 51 year old
millionaire.
He makes her sign a prenup andwhen you hear the marriage
advice dave ramsey gives and itall comes down to money, and I'm
just sitting there listeninglike what?
Like why would this guy offerthis advice to her?
(56:32):
This is so insane.
He has no idea he's hearingthis woman for 30 seconds and
just believes her story.
Speaker 5 (56:39):
It just sounds preposterous and this is all
coming down to you.
Speaker 4 (56:44):
Just don't, you don't believe I don't believe a word
out of this woman's mouth Idon't believe her.
Speaker 5 (56:49):
I think she's a liar and I don't believe all you've
heard is the exact same 30seconds as him.
Speaker 4 (56:55):
He's just I just know , I know that this woman's lying
, like I just know she's.
She's framing it the way shewants to frame it to make
herself sound like she's thispoor, innocent victim.
And dave ramsey's like you.
You, this is, this is no, no,you have to do this.
Wait till you hear his advice.
It's insane, okay, I wonder, isdave ramsey on his first
(57:16):
marriage too like?
I don't think anybody that'sthat too.
I don't think anybody thattheir first marriage didn't work
out should be giving marriageadvice to anybody.
That's just how I feel we'regoing to go over to the other
side.
If you guys are not over there,you're missing out.
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