Minneapolis Catholic Community Devastated by Horrific Violence

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A dark shadow has fallen over the Catholic community following the devastating shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic school. As media outlets rush to frame this tragedy through familiar political lenses, we're pulling back the veil to examine the disturbing spiritual dimensions that most commentators refuse to address.

The shooter's transgender identity wasn't incidental to this violence but central to understanding it. We explore the historical connection between gender confusion and violence, drawing from Flavius Josephus's ancient accounts that described individuals who "wore women's faces" yet had "murderous hands." This pattern of disordered thinking leading to disordered actions reveals a spiritual battle raging beneath the cultural surface.

Most troubling is the response of Catholic leadership. Rather than confronting the ideological darkness at work, many bishops immediately pivoted to political talking points about gun control. We contrast this weak response with St. Patrick's courageous confrontation of evil in his letter to Caroticus, where he boldly named pagan soldiers "fellow citizens of the devil" through their "evil deeds."

The transgender movement represents a modern manifestation of ancient Luciferian ideology – the ultimate "I will become" statement that echoes Satan's original rebellion. This isn't merely about identity politics; it's about a fundamental rejection of created order that has devastating consequences. Meanwhile, organizations like the Association of United States Catholic Priests actively promote these harmful ideologies within the Church itself.

For families seeking protection in these troubled times, we offer practical spiritual guidance, including daily prayer, blessing homes with holy water, and maintaining vigilance against the cultural forces that seek to corrupt our children's minds and souls. The path forward requires not the accommodation of evil but its direct confrontation through truth spoken with love and courage.

Join us in this vital conversation about reclaiming an authentic Catholic response to the darkness of our culture. Subscribe and share this episode to help others understand what's truly at stake in our spiritual battle for truth.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Satsang with Mooji.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
We didn't think a humorous video was appropriate,
so we just went with the oldschool intro.
But, yeah, rob and I were goingto have Michael on tomorrow
intro.
But, um, yeah, robin, rob and Iwere gonna have michael on
tomorrow.
Um, and I just thought Ithought I have I have so many

(00:52):
freaking emotions runningthrough me today from from
everything that's going on.
And then I started seeing someof the bishops that michael was
highlighting in the past coupleof days tweeting about gun
violence and trying to changethe topic from what it actually
should be focused on to pushingtheir typical liberal agenda
items.
And I said, michael, are youfree to come on tonight, because

(01:13):
I think this is just somethingwe should all jump on and talk
about.
Yeah, um, my, my, um, myinitial thoughts are just uh's,
very, very strange how we got anAmerican pope and within three
months you have a Catholicchurch, like during mass,

(01:34):
getting fired upon like this,this mass casualty event.
And I'm seeing like, oh, I'mseeing all the news coverage of
it.
And I'm seeing like, old, I'mseeing all the news coverage of
it.
And I'm watching CNN sayingthings like, uh, or I might even
been on Fox news.
It was like a liberal on Foxnews worried that you know the
backlash for the trans communityis going to be something that

(01:57):
you know.
They're very worried about itand I'm like you know what.
Maybe they should be worried.
Maybe they should be worriedbecause I've had it with this
stuff.
I've had it with them makinglike, making it like this is
about gun control, when this isreally about this demonic
movement that I think is moreevil than islam at this point,

(02:17):
because at least islam has theend game of 17 virgins when they
get to heaven, where this onejust seems to be doing it for
the thrill of the evil, likethey get off on the evil itself,
and I think it's actually worsethan radical islam.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
So I I mean, I don't know what you guys want to, what
you guys want to touch on first, but I have a lot of feelings
on this I'm just going to firstsay, like some of the themes
we're going to talk about in theshow and stuff is, this is
probably not a show for kids,like some of the images the
shooter use and stuff aresatanic and demonic and like I

(02:52):
don't know if all of us aregoing to be holding be able to
hold in our anger and keeplanguage clean at all points
tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
So if you have kids watching, maybe don't yeah, it
was the first time on Twitterwhere I was just like I was so
tempted to just throw f-bombsout, like especially watching
trey gowdy's comments today,especially just just just
watching the typical liberalreaction about gun control I'm
like, are you people seriouslyplaying this game?
Right now I'm watching thecatholic bishops do it and that

(03:22):
is probably one of the mostenraging things, because the
Catholic bishops have coddledthis movement and especially
when you get down to seeing that, I think it was backwards feet.
That priest, I don't know, Iforgot his name.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah he put out that.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Father Paul, let's not, even I don't want to.
You know I'm not going to tryto disparage a priest, paul,
let's not, even I don't want to.
You know I'm not going to tryto disparage a priest.
Yeah, he, um, he put out thatthe mother was a devout catholic
who worked at the school andit's like so she's a devout
catholic and she signed off onher son's name change when he
was underage.
Like, that's not a devoutcatholic.
Don't play that game with me.

(04:00):
But in fairness, when you startlistening to what these bishops
and your typical diocese aresaying to these people and when
you see things like fiduciasupplicants coming out, it does
give the impression like weshould care.
You know, if somebody's havingthese feelings, maybe we should
placate it and play into it.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I mean, yes, that's not to mention doctors saying
your kid will kill himself ifyou don't go along with this.
Obviously the parents here havesome responsibility at the very
minimum, but at some levelthey're kind of victims of the
ideology too.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
So what I know about the mother is that she was a
daily mass attendee.
She was very pro-life uh.
I saw pictures of herparticipating in all sorts of
pro-life marches and in reallystrongly advocating for, for
pre-born babies.
So it seems to me that her mindand and her disposition was

(04:59):
poisoned by probably a priest,who encouraged her to
participate in this name change,to coddle her son in such a way
that he can he, he wouldbelieve that he could transform
his nature, uh, from one thingto another.
And you know, I don't want tosay that she is a victim,

(05:22):
because a lot of times peoplewill go along with what they
want to hear rather than whatthey need to hear.
So there, at some point, theredoes come a culpability.
But I also understand that thefather is an alcoholic.
So I heard that from somebodywho knows the family, from

(05:47):
somebody who knows the family.
But the point that I want tomake is that people have itching
ears, itching ears that areburning to hear heresies that
they want to follow, and that'spart of the problem that we're
facing today and that's what youwere talking about, anthony,
with the rise of bishops who areconstantly deflecting and
pointing to other issues thatare not at the heart of the

(06:08):
problem.
Guns do not kill people, peoplekill people, and it sounds like
a bumper sticker slogan, butit's true and the person behind
the site and the trigger is theone making the decision as to
which trajectory that bullet isgoing to take.
So we have to start getting tothe heart of the philosophy and

(06:30):
the ideas behind the one holdingthe weapon and to your point
that we don't need to talk aboutcontrolling the weapon,
controlling the guns and thingslike that.
There has to be a properimplementation of the gun
control laws we already have onthe books.
There are red flag laws thatexist specifically for

(06:52):
preventing people with severemental health issues from
obtaining a firearm.
What happened is the AmericanPsychiatric Association removed
gender dysphoria andhomosexuality and a host of
other perverse sexual impulsesfrom the list of mental

(07:16):
illnesses.
So when people go to flag whatit is that is identifiable as a
mental illness if somebody istransgender, if somebody is a
homosexual, that does not comeup and that is a serious problem
.
I want to read you somethingbecause I think that this will
really kind of expose just howthorough the problem of

(07:40):
transgenderism is and it alwayshas been.
We have to remember that thedevil was called a liar from the
beginning, a murderer and aliar from the beginning.
Okay, Now, if we look back toantiquity, we can see very
clearly that indiscriminatekilling goes hand in glove with

(08:04):
transgenderism.
Listen to this.
This comes from FlaviusJosephus, who was writing it
about that.
He was a historian.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
This is during the destruction of the temple right.
That's correct, Yep.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah.
So here's the quote.
With their insatiable hungerfor loot, they ransacked the
houses of the wealthy, murderedmen and violated women.
For sport, they guzzled theirloot washed down with blood.
And from mere satiety, theyshamefully gave themselves up to
effeminate practices, platingtheir hair and putting on

(08:39):
women's clothes, drenchingthemselves with perfumes and
painting their eyelids to makethemselves attractive.
They copied not merely thedress but also the passions of
women, devising, in their excessof licentiousness, unlawful
pleasures in which they wallowedas in a brothel.
Thus they entirely polluted thecity with their foul practices.

(09:02):
Yet Yet, though they worewomen's faces, their hands were
murderous.
They would approach withmincing steps and whipping out
their swords from under dyedcloaks.
They would impale passersby.
Okay, they were committingrandom acts of violence.
Somebody asked what am I reading?

(09:22):
I'm reading from FlaviusJosephus, the Jewish war.
Okay, it's about the siege ofJerusalem.
So this was taking place inJerusalem when the Roman
centurions had surrounded thecity.
Okay, what that particularpassage points to is the fact
that people who dress as men,who dresses women?

(09:44):
They're so perverse in the mind, they're so perverse in the
heart that they have no sense ofthe respect, the dignity of
human life, and they will commitindiscriminate acts of violence
.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
That's what we're seeing, right now Fed Calderon
is not even that wrong.
Now I don't have scripture infront of me, but I'm pretty sure
Romans.
One is where it talks about Godgiving them up to their own
desires, to the point where manwill lust after men, and then
God just kind of allows them togo about.
But that really is what'shappening here.
But the bishops that, thebishops that think placating

(10:22):
this thing right.
So what Michael's talking abouthere is just like this lust
that that comes along with thiswhole thing and it leads to
violence and all this stuff.
Now, the bishops that areplacating this, they may think
that they're they man, they,these men, think that by doing
this they're, they're helpingthis movement in some way, but

(10:46):
in reality, when the persecutionof the church comes, they're
going to be the target.
So they think that they'reavoiding I don't know how to put
this into words.
They think, by fighting on thatside, that they're going to
avoid the coming chastisement ofthe church or something.
But no, they're going to avoidthe the the coming chastisement
of the church or something, butno, they're going to be the

(11:08):
first targets because they'regoing to have a Roman collar on
and the persecution of thechurch is going to come and this
, this whole, this whole thingof just pretending like the
issue is not.
The issue is we.
We're also I'm sorry, mythoughts are all over the place
but we're also dealing withpeople who really, genuinely
think gun control will solvethis right.

(11:30):
These are the when you when yousee how people talk past each
other on this issue and you seehow the left really thinks gun
control will solve this issue.
There's constant talk.
I even saw Bishop Cupich,cardinal Cupich, today talking
about how President Trump is,you know, downgrading health
care and finance and that'sgoing to lead to a further

(11:51):
degradation of mental health.
They won't actually addresswhat the mental health issue is
here.
It doesn't matter how muchcounseling you send these people
, for If in the counseling it'sdisordered itself, because these
people are sick and they doneed help, but they're not
getting the help they need.
They're getting people who areencouraging this sickness to go
further and further, and thenthey're putting them on these

(12:13):
psychotropic drugs, whichenhances the delusion even
further and the next thing youknow they're doing things like
this.
This is not.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
This is not not to mention the level of evil I was

(12:46):
going to say.
Not to mention, like now, therapid legalization of of
cannabis, when you know studiesshow that cannabis.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Daily cannabis use before the age of 25 leads to
like uh, I forget the exactnumber, but a huge increase in
in in schizophrenia and othermental disorders.
Yep, yeah, I, I, I think thatthere is going to be a coming
backlash against this, thisrainbow cult, and I think it's,
I think it's needed.
Like I, I, I think that peoplethe the idea of homophobia, like
I don't think we're afraidenough of them.
This is a very, very dangerous,dangerous.

(13:08):
It's a cult essentially.
Well, I mean, what's Dangerousideology that leads to?
I mean, you know there are.
It's a degeneracy and a sexualperversion.
It's like, yeah, okay, so thetrans activists may be the
violent ones, but the other onesare trying to lure your
children into read to them atthe library.
And then there's another groupof them that are trying to get

(13:30):
into women's bathrooms.
And then there's another grouplike that, there's another group
that are constantly gettingpicked up for looking at child
imagery, and it's the wholething is just completely
degenerate and debauched andsomething needs to be done about
it, and I think that there'sgoing to be a huge backlash from
this yeah, we don't need guncontrol, we need lgbt control.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, we need to have an eradication of that entire
movement man because it's aweapon that's being ideological
weapon.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, it's an ideological weapon, absolutely,
and it's um.
I mean, I don't know how thisshow stays up, man, I don't know
.
I don't because I'm willing totake a strike over it yeah, it's
just I, I, I think people havehad it.
I think that, um, somethingneeds to change here.
I think this is as dangerous asradical islam you used to have.

(14:22):
You used to have, you know,suicide bombers that came in.
I mean this is no different,except that the person was in
the manifesto.
I mean, I don't even know if Iwant to go through that
manifesto or that video.
It's so heinous.
It's like the person was doingit for the thrill of the evil
itself, whereas at least Islamthinks is doing it for some

(14:43):
greater good or something.
This was actually for thethrill of the evil itself,
whereas at least Islam thinksit's doing it for some greater
good or something.
This was actually for thethrill of the evil itself.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Right, I was commenting on X earlier today.
I said every bishop and priestsupporting LGBT ideologies and
standing against the SecondAmendment have innocent blood on
their hands.
And the fact of the matter is,if we look at the bishops that
have been coddling andsupporting the idea of
transgenderism, look at BishopStowe.
Bishop Stowe, who is a memberof the AUSCP we'll talk about

(15:12):
them in a little bit but BishopJohn Stowe of Lexington,
kentucky, was actively promotingthis woman who transitioned to
a man, who is acting as a hermit, and he's elevating this person
in the community as a pillar ofthe community, as if there's
some sort of pinnacle of virtue,when really the fact of the
matter is this person isbasically saying I changed my

(15:34):
own nature and it's a wonderfulthing.
You know, I wrote about thetrans movement, gosh.
When was this 2018.
?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, before you read it real quick.
Um, michael wasn't saying itlike it was a good thing.
He's saying there's alreadythese laws on the books and if
you actually he say it's alreadythere, like you don't need to
increase the law, you alreadyhave these red flags, the red, I
mean the the red flag logs like.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
But that's kind of besides the point.
So when you purchase a gun youhave to fill out the atfF form
for a 4473.
That you fill that out.
They run that through the FBIbackground check See if you're
allowed to buy a gun.
One of the questions, question21 G, asks if you've ever been
legally declared mentallydefective and if you have, that
automatically disqualifies youfrom buying a gun.

(16:22):
So if this, if, if, if, if beingtrans or or homosexual properly
, diagnosed right could still bediagnosed as a mental disorder
that would disqualifyindividuals from buying guns.
Now the red flag laws are are alittle different, and I do
think they maybe go a little toofar in most cases, because

(16:43):
those allow anyone to call in tothe police, say I believe this
person is a danger to themselvesor others, and then the police
usually show up with a no-knockwarrant where they just bust
down your door, which usuallycauses you to shoot them because
someone is busting down yourdoor.
Yeah right, but um, so that's alittle different besides the
point.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
But yeah, I was simply pointing out that michael
wasn't.
Michael wasn wasn't saying wehave red flag laws.
These are good things.
He was just saying they doexist.
And if you could actually havesomebody disqualified for mental
illness and we classified thisthing properly for what it is,
they would have beendisqualified from having a gun
to begin with.
And that's essentially it.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Plus, the guy talked about vaping a lot.
I don't know if it was nicotineor cannabis.
If it was cannabis, that alsodisqualified him from owning a
gun, so yeah, right, um, goahead, michael.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I didn't mean to cut you off like that no, that's all
right.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I I'm glad actually somebody brought that up,
because I think it's importantto distinguish between what we
already have as laws on thebooks and the application of
those laws, for right or wrong.
And quite honestly I'm far moreopen to just having as few gun
control laws as we possibly can.
I don't necessarily think thatit's a bad thing to prevent

(17:59):
somebody who has a verifiablemelt mental illness from
purchasing a firearm, providedthat that person is still in
that mental state.
You know, if, if it can beshown that they've reformed and
they don't, they're no longer adanger to themselves or to
society, well then let's havethat conversation.

(18:20):
But when it comes to to thisparticular classification of
individuals who claim that theyhave changed their own sexual
nature, that they live in afantasy world, their idea of
human sexuality is so perverseand so twisted that they have a
false understanding of realityand they're walking through the

(18:42):
world as if that fantasy isreality and they demand that the
rest of society play along withthat fantasy.
When you have that particularkind of fantasy going on in your
mind and you're acting as ifit's reality, you have no
business having a firearm of anykind because you are a danger

(19:03):
to the society and to yourself,because you have denied reality
itself.
You might as well be living ina video game.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and , and, and I mean when you do go
through some of the things thekids said he did have this
obsession with violence.
And then you add what who knowswhat drugs they were putting
this kid on to go through thistransition, and you know it's
just man, this, this, because wehear all the time, like you

(19:34):
basically hear the two sides oh,this is a gun violence issue,
oh, this is a mental healthissue, but you're not addressing
the core of the issue of wherethe mental health is being
derived from.
The mental health issues arebeing derived from these insane
ideologies that are being pushedfrom the church itself at this
point, and that, really, whatthis mother probably endured was

(19:57):
she's in she's, she's in achurch, she, she's working there
, she probably it.
You know she could have beentrying to be a good christian
woman.
And then she's hearing thismessaging from people like james
martin.
She's hearing this messagingeven from as far up as the
vatican, and then the vatican'skind of endorsing the james
martin message, saying thatwe're supposed to be welcoming
to these people and not evertell anyone the truth.

(20:19):
You sit there and you welcomepeople and welcome people, but
don't ever tell them the truth.
If the church is not going tobe the pillar and foundation of
truth, what is its purpose?

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah Well, you know, a couple of years ago I put out
a big 64-page on common spirithealth, which is the largest
catholic health network in theunited states, and the report
focused on the fact that commonspirit health was pushing lgbt
ideologies and performing sexchange operations in several of
its locations, and it was alsopushing for the idea of

(20:53):
transitioning kids, giving themthem puberty blockers for the
sake of saving them, savingtheir lives, because, for crying
out loud, if you don't givethem puberty blockers, they're
probably going to killthemselves.
I don't know if I can say thaton YouTube without getting you
guys dinged, but I just did,sorry, but that's what they're

(21:15):
telling the people, that's whatthey're telling parents that if
you don't allow this, thenthey're going to delete
themselves.
And that's where we are.
But Common Spirit Health, thelargest Catholic health network
in the country, is pushing thishard.
Now, to the USCCB's credit, theyresponded by saying you know
what?
There is no trans ideology.

(21:38):
God created man and woman.
This notion that you can changeyour nature is completely
garbage.
It's heretical, it's, it's got.
You know, you can't put forwardthis idea to engage in any kind
of transition ideology,including and up to identifying

(21:58):
somebody as a as as the sex thatthey are not.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, we even had that clip going around two weeks
ago where the I don't know ifit was a Bishop or somebody at
the Vatican talking about howthey you know, they
inadvertently ordained trans menlike women that transitioned,
like and they got.
And he was like don't ask me ifinadvertently ordained trans
men like women that transitioned, that's right.
And he was like, don't ask meif this is possible to happen.
This has already happened.

(22:23):
Like this happened weinadvertently ordained women
that were presenting themselvesas men and we didn't find out
until later.
Like this is something that'shappened.
This ideology is infested insidethe church and, yeah, I'm glad
that USCCB came out with thatstatement, but they'll make a.
They may make a statement onpaper, but then in their actions
they're doing somethingcompletely the opposite.

(22:45):
James Martin's being welcomedinto every single diocese, he's
being platformed, while Rob andI are getting canceled.
I also want to.

(23:08):
I want to play the Trey Gowdyclip, rob, because if anybody
didn't see that, this oneabsolutely blew my mind that
this man sees this situationhappen and what he decides is
the root cause of the problem isso baffling to me.
You have it handy.
Yep, I put it in the chat Onesecond here.
Yeah, yeah, especially becausethese the people I mean, he
decides he's going to blamewhite men, which is so insane,
because we're already dealingwith the left coming down not

(23:32):
what this issue is about, andand and when it all just seems
so manipulated that you even nowhave these, these conservative
politicians coming out andsaying we need gun control.
Just, it just feels like we'rebeing manipulated for for them
to take everybody's, everybody'sfirst amendment away.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Oh, second amendment second, our system is reactive.
Something bad happens, we reactto it, and what people are
crying for now is how can weprevent this, how can we stop it
?
And the only way to stop it isto identify the shooter ahead of
time or keep the weapons out oftheir hands.

(24:12):
And so we're going to have tohave a conversation of freedom
versus protecting children.
I mean, how many schoolshootings does it take before
we're going to have aconversation about keeping
firearms?
It's always a young white male,almost always.
I mean, did anyone this morningthink, I wonder, if that was a
female?
Did any of y'all think that?

(24:34):
I mean, there's been one schoolshooting involving a female,
one At Tennessee, but other thanthat it is usually young white
males.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
To be fair, the shooter themselves was wondering
if they were a white female.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Well, that's my first thought Anytime I see one of
these.
My first thought because, andthe thing is, the last several
they kept the manifesto from us,they kept the identity from us,
and as soon as they start doingthat, you know, it's one of two
things it's a, it's a, it's atrans person, or it's a.
Or it's a or it's a blackperson.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
right, this one got out of their out of hand for
them so quick, so quickly.
I wonder how they let that onething yeah, it's this one got
stage it.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
The second, the information got out, people were
right on it and luckily peoplewere smart enough to rip the
videos off the guy's youtube,because they scrubbed that crap
immediately and the idea thattrey's first thought was this is
a white man like not mine, notmine at all.
First off, whenever theseincidents happen, I go, okay,

(25:37):
are they telling us anything?
And if they don't tell usanything, my first thought is
lgbt or black.
Yeah, because, because if itwas a white guy, you'd see it
immediately out there.
So when, when they firststarted reporting that this
person was dealing with genderdysphoria, I was like hold off,
don't jump on it, becausesometimes they set you up for
that and then you know.
So I I saw rob was evencautious about he's like this is

(25:59):
all just rumors for now.
Let's wait until we have alittle bit of confirmation.
But it it really is the way itplays out in the media.
And then there's somebody atfox news who's an executive who
has a trans child.
So the way that fox news isreporting this and not even
calling it what it is, they'resaying killer went by two names,

(26:19):
robert and robin, and they'renot actually saying the
situation for what it is.
The only place people areactually getting the truth of
this reporting is in independentmedia and people like that on
podcasts and things like that.
Yeah, it's just nuts to me.
Like either it.
When you get into seeing theconservative politicians coming

(26:41):
out and talking like this, I'msorry, it just all seems like
one big agenda and so for thosenot in the like the gun
community.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
You, if you watch the video you had probably no idea,
but, like, at the beginninghe's mentioning a guy named
brandon herrera.
For you know he says, likebrandon herrera for president,
brandon herrera is a big um guntuber, big, you know youtube uh
personality who's running forcongress in texas, a very pro

(27:11):
gun platform, um, but is alsolike, very anti-trans and, you
know, obviously doesn't have thepolitics of this kid.
So it's very interesting thatone of the first thing he says
in the video is to to promote,you know, someone who's very pro
.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Second amendment well , it's, it's.
Uh, you want to promote yourenemies so that you can taint
them with your evil, right, yeah, I mean, that's, that's pretty
much what that was you.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You guys looked into some of the symbolism on um, on
on the weapons that I had neverheard about before and you guys
were actually talking to meabout it a little bit in the
green room.
What, what, what is, what is,what was, what were those things
you guys were talking about?

Speaker 3 (27:53):
so I heard this from some of the, the zoomers in our
telegram.
Actually, um, they had beenclued in on these groups from a
couple of the more recent otherschool shootings that, uh, there
are two groups.
One is called order of the nineangles um, not order of the
nine angels, it's angles and theother is called 746.

(28:18):
I think, um, they're both likesatanic, uh occultist, uh
anarchist groups is the best wayto describe them.
A lot of people describe uh 09aas neo-nazi, but it's really
more of just pure anarchy.
You know, they might like sayhey, jews and that way of

(28:39):
neo-Nazism, but they're not likepolitical or, you know,
authoritarian, it's just pureanarchy.
So they are two satanicanarchist groups.
09a was apparently started bysomeone with connections to the
British MI6, which isinteresting that it has
three-letter agency connections.
But I guess 746 is an offshootof that, um, less politically or

(29:05):
less ideological in terms oflike their anarchist stuff than
o9a.
But they, I guess, tend to findyoung teenagers on things like
discord.
They, I guess tend to findyoung teenagers on things like
Discord and groom them in asense, using stuff like child
porn to get them to self-harm,to get them to transition and to

(29:27):
get them to ultimately endtheir lives in extreme acts of
violence like this.
Yeah, and this guy had symbolson the weapons and social media
accounts of both of these groups.
Now, whether he has anyofficial affiliation or contact
with them is hard to say, but hedefinitely at least knew of

(29:47):
them and seems to have verysimilar motivations to them.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Right, that's wild.
Well, and it's not surprisingthat he would have satanic
imagery on his, on his weapons,or that he would put a picture
of christ, uh, with, with thecrown of thorns, at the top of a
, uh, a target, you know, takingshots at christ.
Because the thing is and thisis something I can't emphasize

(30:13):
hard enough but the transmovement is Luciferianism.
Yeah, because at the verybeginning of time, what was it
that Lucifer said?
And we get it right there inIsaiah, where the prophet Isaiah
says how art thou fallen fromheaven, o Lucifer, who didst
rise in the morning?

(30:33):
How art thou fallen to theearth that thou didst wound the
nations?
And thou saidst in thy heart Iwill ascend into heaven and I
will exalt my throne above thestars of God.
I will sit in the mountain ofthe covenant in the sides of the
north.
I will ascend above the heightof the clouds.

(30:53):
I will be like the Most high,but yet thou shalt be brought
down to hell, into the depth ofthe pit.
When Lucifer says to himself Iwill become, it's a statement of
transition.
It's saying I am not this thing, but I will become this thing.

(31:16):
And then, of course, lucifergets cast out of heaven and he
goes to Eden and he says to Eveyou're not going to die, your
eyes will be opened and you willbecome like gods, meaning one
of us, one of us fallen angels.
Now he couldn't lie to her andsay that you'll be like God,
because she already knows thatshe's made in the image and

(31:39):
likeness of God.
So he has to change it, switchit up.
You'll become like one of us,one of the gods.
So then, of course, eve fallsfor the deception.
And if you go through history,you see alchemy, the idea of
becoming transitioning from leadto gold.
Or you get chimeras, where youcan have this combination of

(32:01):
various animals and they canbecome something new.
Or this idea of evolution, thata species can transition from
one species to another.
It will become something thatit's not.
Reptiles will become birds,okay.
Or you get this idea oftransgenderism Men can become
women, women can become men.

(32:23):
Or ultimately, transhumanism,where men can become machine and
we can download ourconsciousness into a machine and
therefore live forever that way.
So it's all Luciferian.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, it's a mockery of transubstantiation, right,
like we believe.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Which is interesting, considering what he wrote on
his rifle.
Take this and eat Yep.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, so like transubstantiation, we believe
the substance changes butappears under the same.
Uh, you know, it appears thesame but they believe that the
appearance changes but thesubstance.
It's like a total inversion oftransubstantiation.
What they're doing with thetransgender movement, like they

(33:10):
believe they're, they're they.
The substance is different fromwhat god actually created them
as, but they, if they justchange the appearance, that will
actually.
It's just everything is amockery of of the Catholic faith
.
It's I don't know man, and Ithink that there's going to like
we're at a time where this,this has to.

(33:32):
I just see what the wholeculture is doing right now.
We're in just such a differenttime.
I've never seen people reactingto things the way they are
right now, but this one feelslike they've pushed people too
far and the, the liberals,coming out with their typical.
I'm just going to, I mean, I'mgoing to read um, uh, one of the

(33:55):
arch.
This is now.
This is um, archbishop, uh,weisenberger, who we're going to
get into because he hasconnections to the story michael
covered earlier this week.
But this is a man who hasencouraged this movement and
instead of him doing a littleself-reflecting and going, oh my

(34:18):
goodness, look at the monsterwe've created.
No, that's not what he wants todo, he says.
I'm deeply troubled andimmensely sad to hear reports of
today's shooting at a Catholicschool in Minneapolis.
Catholic schools are meant tobe places of faith, learning and
safety, and such a tragedywounds the entire body of Christ
.
My soul aches for these littleones treasured by our Lord,
along with their families andcommunities.

(34:38):
May God embrace them in histender care and heal those.
Even the way they talk aboutGod's tenderness is just
off-putting to me.
The way they say it.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong,but every child must be
treasured and safe and no childshould have to live in fear.
Even as we pray for those whoselives are taken today, I also
ask that our prayer be matchedby firm endeavors to end the

(35:01):
super abundance of handguns andassault weapons in our nation.
We owe it to our families, ourneighbors, our friends, but most
of all, we owe it to ourchildren.
This is not like they can'twait to just jump on the
political thing instead ofdiscussing what is actually
going on here, which is clearlydemonic.
I mean anybody that watched thevideo that this kid put out?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
it is so off-putting and and clearly a demonic
possession going on here I I'venever been more convinced that I
heard a demon than watchingthat video, and I've listened to
the exorcism of annalisemichelle.
So yeah, um, and they should benoted that the deadliest attack
on a school in the unitedstates was a bombing back in the

(35:43):
1920s.
So so what?
If they don't have guns,they'll find something I mean
evil doesn't just quit rob.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
There have been guns in this country since the
founding.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
There's never been instances Prior to 1986, you
could go to Sears and buy afully automatic weapon.
I mean yeah, so so?

Speaker 2 (36:03):
there.
This, this thing that we'redealing with, is a very new
phenomenon, and a lot of it hasto do with the chemicals that
we're all putting into ourbodies by the pharmaceutical
companies, things like that.
So please, soupage.
The facts are clear.
Pharmaceutical companies,things like that, so um, blaze,
soupage.
The facts are clear.
Guns are plentiful and commonsense attempts to limit their
availability have been largelyrejected in the name of freedom

(36:24):
not found in our constitution.
Cutbacks and funding forhealthcare and social service
programs will only exacerbate anational mental health crisis
and increase alienation.
Like that statement aloneenrages me, because you can pour
all the funding you want intothe mental health system, but if
these people are going intothis mental health system and
they're being fed their delusionfurther and not actually these

(36:46):
are people that people thatsuffer with gender dysphoria do
actually need help, they arepeople who need help and they
are not getting help.
What they are getting is anadvancement in their, in their
symptoms, and they're beingpushed further into this
delusion and fed thesepsychotropic drugs and then it

(37:07):
ends up in violence like thisthe trans activists are violent,
but not all trans people are.
No, okay, fine, you know youhave trans activists that are
violent.
And then you have another groupof trans that are trying to
lure your children into thepublic library in disgusting
clothing with the whatever thehell that is the drag queen

(37:31):
story hour.
Then you have another segmentthat's trying to get into
women's bathrooms.
Then you have another segmentthat's constantly getting busted
by the police because they'relooking at child paraphernalia
on the Internet.
Like this whole movement issick.
It's based in degeneracy.
Something needs to be doneabout it.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
So you know it's interesting, you were sick and
as you were reading thestatement from these bishops
Weisenberg or Cupich, whoever itis they always say the same
thing.
I'm sad, it saddens me to hearthat blah, blah, blah.
I'm sorry.
Yes, it's saddening, it's atragedy.
These things are terrible, butit's sickening and it's

(38:08):
maddening to hear them speak ofthese things in such effeminate
terms.
So have you ever read the letterof St Patrick to Caroticus, the
soldiers of Caroticus?
It is probably the mostmasculine, awesome statement
ever.
Caroticus was this horriblemenace.
He was going around, he wasslaughtering Christians, he was

(38:29):
stealing their loot and takingthem for himself.
And St Patrick wrote a letterto the soldiers of Caroticus.
I'm just going to read aportion to it, because this is
how these bishops need to startlearning to speak.
St Patrick wrote this.
He said I have vowed to my Godto teach these people though I
should be despised by them, towhom I have written with my own

(38:49):
hand to be given to the soldiersto be sent to Caroticus.
I do not say to my fellowcitizens, nor to the fellow
citizens of pious Romans.
I do not say to my fellowcitizens, nor to the fellow
citizens of pious Romans, but tothe fellow citizens of the
devil.
Through their evil deeds andhostile practices, they live in

(39:18):
death, companions of theapostate Scots and Picts,
bloodthirsty men, ever ready toredden themselves with the blood
of innocent Christians, numbersof whom I have begotten to God
and confirmed in Christ.
On the day following, in whichthey were clothed in white and
received the chrism of neophytes, they were cruelly cut up and
slain with the sword by theabove mentioned.
And I sent a letter by a holypriest whom I have taught from
his infancy, with some clericsbegging that they would restore

(39:38):
some of the plunder of thebaptized to the captives, but
they laughed at them.
Therefore, I know not whether Ishould grieve most for those who
were slain or for those whomthe devil ensnared into the
eternal pains of hell, wherethey will be chained like him,
For whoever commits sin is aslave to sin and is called the
son of the devil.

(39:59):
Wherefore, let every man knowwho fears God that they are
estranged from me and fromChrist, my God, whose ambassador
I am.
These patricides, fratricidesand ravening wolves who devour
the people of the Lord as ifthey were bread.
As it is said, the wicked havedissipated thy law, Wherein, in

(40:21):
these latter times, Ireland hasbeen well and prosperously
planted and instructed, Thanksbe to God.
I usurp nothing I share withthese whom he hath called and
predestined to preach the gospel, and such persecution even to
the ends of the earth.
But the enemy hath actedinvidiously toward me though.

(40:46):
The tyrant Caroticus, who fearsneither God nor his priests,
whom he hath chosen andcommitted to them, the high
divine power.
Whomsoever they shall bind onearth, shall be bound in heaven.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
And it goes on from there do you want to know what
the okay?
Could you ever imagine acatholic bishop speaking like
that?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
no, do you want to know what the difference is?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
gay saint patrick actually understood he was up
against principalities andpowers, right?
Patrick actually understoodthat he's going up against pagan
gods here.
Right, and the the bishops ofour day, want to play footsie
with the pagan gods and theydon't recognize the evil that
they are up against.
That's right, because so many ofthem are caught up in their own

(41:30):
sexual sin and they're allcaught up in their own issues
and whether it's financialmismanagement or whatever, or
they just don't even believeanymore, right, and they, or
they think that that these,these, these things that we're
talking about are superstitionsand that the gods aren't real.
You know, the demons aren'treal.
Saint patrick had a veryprofound understanding of the

(41:52):
evil he was up against.
So when he spoke, he he knew,he knew who he was speaking to,
he knew the power these demonshad over these pagans, and these
pagans saw the light when hewould come and preach to them.
That's right.
It's just so sad that we don'thave anything like that.
Yo, I just have to say this,michael, real quick we have
never had 9,000 live viewers onYouTube, ever Anything like that

(42:16):
.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I wonder if that number is real.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I mean it does seem bizarre.
We've never had anything.
We never had more than like athousand.
So if you're new to the show,please hit like subscribe.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
It would be pretty awesome if you guys all hit like
it's probably youtube's botswatching to see, uh, when they
need to cut it that could bepossible.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
but if there really are 9 000 people watching now,
we sure would appreciate asubscribe.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Yeah, I mean, that's incredible, but you're, you're
absolutely right.
And the thing is, we have tounderstand what the definition
of a feminacy is, because Ithink that that word very aptly
applies to the bishops.
Here's the thing If feminacydoesn't simply mean speaking
with a lift and having a limprift, okay that's not a feminacy
.
If feminacy is a pain or asorrow that one feels towards

(43:05):
the uh, the, the action, or theuh enacting a do good.
So, in other words, when, whenyou tell your, your kids hey, I
need you to go do this chore andyour, your son, says, oh,
that's a feminacy, yeah, okay,that's a feminacy because now,

(43:26):
he's expressing a sorrow at a dogood, at something that he has
an obligation or a duty toperform.
So when one has a sorrow at, oror just a, an empathy like a, a
very F feet response to havingto do something that's hard,
something that's important,something that is an obligation

(43:49):
or a duty, and they, they thendon't do it because they, it's,
it's hard or it might, might,you know, it makes them sad
right.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
What's that?
It's a reluctance to suffer forsomething that's good.
It's this.
It's this weakness in men thatthey don't want to do the hard
thing because they don't want todo the right thing, because it
might be difficult.
And and you know what?
Look, we're up against heavypressure from the entire culture
right now and these bishops areall terrified.
None of them will just take astand and do the right thing

(44:21):
because they're afraid of thelittle bit of media attention
They'll get.
Look at what man you look atjust what they did with Cracker
Barrel.
Right, Like the campaign comesdown on Cracker Barrel.
We man I think it was theFisher King posted the other day
.
He's like oh, Twitter isn'treal.
No, no, no, we are the mostpowerful mob in history.
Actually, Like we're more thanthe Gambino Prime family.

(44:43):
So if we put that pressure onthe bishops, I promise you
you'll get your Latin mass back.
We just have to be willing todo it Like we got to start start
operating.
We have to be as as uh, wise asfox and as gentle as doves, but
we just we are wise as serpentsand you know, we have to be
willing to put some pressurewhen it's needed, like I'm so

(45:04):
tired of seeing one thing afteranother happen and the faithful
do nothing.
None of them do anything.
I mean you guys are losing yourlife and you're gonna tell me
you guys can't get five, 600people together to go and pray
in front of the bishops, infront of the bishops' office,
Like come on.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
The second, someone stands up, every other Catholic
around starts tone policing them.
I'll tell you right now if theytry taking my lap and mass away
if they try taking my lap andmass away.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I promise you, I'm, I'm, I'm organizing anything.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Do you remember when Nick Sandman was at that
pro-life march in DC?
Yes, all these people.
You had Lila Rose, you had the,the head of the National, the
National Pro-Life MarchCommittee.
You had all these pro-lifeactivists.
They were coming out and theywere condemning Nick Sandman
because, wow, he dis this nativeamerican man.

(45:56):
And and he was, you know, theyplayed right into it.
I was the first one on socialmedia to say stop.
I know exactly what happened.
I have the video right here.
I've been going through all ofthe videos.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Wait a minute you were there yeah holy cow, we
didn't know each other back then.
Wait a minute, so wait, youwere there for the Nick Salmon.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
There's a lot of hits for.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Lower we Need.
Yeah, so wait a minute.
Was it your video that winds up?

Speaker 4 (46:23):
making the rounds.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
No, no, no, it wasn't my video, okay okay, but you
saw the encounter between NickSalmon and the Native American
guy.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Yeah, so there was a really long, like two or three
hour video of you know the,because what happened was there
was, um, there was this groupcalled the, uh, the is the black
israeli, uh, something orothers, I don't I don't know the
black, black, hebrew israelitesso they were there and they
were.
They were basically mocking andmaking fun of of this cath group
, the Catholic high school thatwas there and there was this, a

(47:00):
lot of this back and forth, andthey were really harassing the
Catholics, just really harassingthem.
And as that was going on, youhad this, the, this Native
American I can't remember hisname, but he's leading some sort
of protest and they're doingsome sort of prayer circle
circle or some shamanistic stuffand he's beating a drum and
he's just you know whatever.

(47:22):
And he goes over to whereSandman and his other students
are, his other fellow students,and he starts beating this drum
right in front of Nick's face.
Now, Nick, to his credit, heturns to his friends and he's
like what's this all about?
And so he's got kind of aconfused smile on his face.
He's like, look, I'm not goingto give into this.
And some of his friends werestarting to get mad and he
actually turned around.

(47:42):
He's like no, you're not goingto get physical with these guys.
So he sat there and he stoodthere and he just kind of smiled
at the guy because what elseare you going to do?
And they turned that into acampaign of disrespect and they
made it into something that itwasn't.
So when we start looking atpeople who are willing to count,

(48:03):
you were talking about policetoning or toning, toning police.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
So immediately Lila Rose and all these other
pro-life activists theycondemned Nick Sandman right
away.
They're like, oh, he was in thewrong.
They had no idea what was goingon.
They just said, oh, we don'twant to, we don't want to look
like the bad guy, don't besmirchwhat we're trying to do.
So the problem that we'refacing right now is that people
don't get into the weeds to tryand understand the truth and get

(48:32):
to the heart of the matter andexpress it and explain it in a
way that says look, this is thetruth, this is the case, this is
actually what happened.
So when we're looking at thissituation now with the school
and all these bishops were ohwell, you know, they're wringing
their hands about gun controland gun violence and the problem
violence, the problem is thementality behind the people that

(48:54):
are holding the gun.
That's the problem.
They don't want to talk aboutthat.
And to yours and Rob's pointabout the fact that these men
are themselves deviants, whichis leading to their effeminacy.
This goes to the report that weput out earlier this week about

(49:14):
the AUSCP, where we had priestsactually admitting to the rest
of the crowd hey, I masturbateand you know what?
I turn it into a prayer, andwhen I do, I thank God for my
sexuality.
That's an actual quote.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
You want to know.
What's enraging about thatwhole story is that I, I, I I'm
gonna give a shout out tomichael lofton for covering it
and actually giving you creditfor it, but it was really
bizarre to me that you didn'thave jd uh, jd flynn and ed
condon covering that over at thepillar, like that's.

(49:52):
That's bizarre to me.
You didn't have anybody innational catholic register
reporting on that.
It's like they they really seeyou as like a villain or
something.
It's like what?
So if who is going to reportthis stuff?
If you don't, how did you getthat audio?
sources and sources michael'sout there setting up grinder

(50:21):
accounts and sending guys onfake dates like what's his name?

Speaker 4 (50:24):
michael's just in the room with a fake mustache and
sunglasses my name is SenorPastor.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
What the hell is his name?
You guys got to help me outhere.
Who does that?
The Veritas guy Project Veritas.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
He would set up Grindr.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
James O'Keefe, michael's out there setting up
Grindr to get the inside scoop.
No, it really was, but it's soinsane to me that you were able
to get that audio.
Good old hike mitch, born outthere.
Um.

(51:08):
So you said you set it up andyou get this audio now.
And now, not just that.
So, yeah, michael gets theaudio with that was one of the
craziest quotes from it but thenyou also show how these bishops
are actually endorsing this.
And then then that same priestthat said that goes on and does
a podcast with james martin.
Right, this is interconnectedand this all goes together.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
It all shows how they will divert and pretend this
has to do with gun control,while completely ignoring the
fact that they are very much apart of why this problem exists
of audio to go through, andtrying to condense it down to a
16-minute video was really toughand I have more information

(51:59):
we'll be releasing, by the way,just as damning, just as
upsetting, much more on theheresy front than on the gotcha
of that one quote.
But the fact of the matter isthat they're denying sin.
They're denying the nature ofsin.
They want to say that we can beembracing and accepting of
certain sins.

(52:20):
So what they're trying to sayis we no longer want to resist.
We don't want to resist theevil, we don't want to fight
against the evil, we don't wantto have enemies, we don't want a
war with anything, we just wantpeace.
We want peace.
We just want peace.
We want peace with the world,we want peace with the devil.
And is it's?
It's kind of like the story thereluctant dragon.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
You familiar with that story I feel like I am, but
go ahead, give us a run now,because I do the story of the
reluctant dragon.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
It was written in the uh, the late 1800s it.
It was made into a Disneycartoon in the 1930s or 40s and
the story is that this kid,who's a very imaginative kid, he
reads a lot and he winds updiscovering that there's a
dragon nearby and he gets thewhole town whipped up into a
frenzy about the fact thatthere's a dragon.

(53:10):
And so they go out, theycontact St George and they bring
St George out to try and fightthis dragon.
Meanwhile the boy winds upmeeting with this dragon and he
finds out that this dragondoesn't want to fight anybody.
He's not a bad guy, he justwants to sip tea and read poetry
.
And so the kid wow, I made amistake, I need to go convince

(53:33):
the townsfolk that we're notgoing to fight this dragon.
Well, st George, you know he'salready been conscripted to
fight the dragon.
So they come up with a ruse andthey have St George fight the
dragon in this great big battle,and he pretends to skewer the
dragon and the dragon pretendsto die.
And then they, the townsfolk,come out and they're like oh,

(53:53):
wow, we got him, we're done,we're rid of the dragon.
And then the dragon rises upand says look, I don't want to
hurt you guys, I just want tosip tea and read poetry.
And he starts reciting poetryand he's all a fet, a feat, you
know.
And the townsfolk say, oh well,he's not so bad and they're
going to invite the dragon intothe town.

(54:13):
This is precisely the parablethat we should be reading into
and saying that is how thebishops are handling the devil.
That's how the bishops arehandling sin.
They're saying, oh, it's notsuch a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
It's the same parable as the scorpion going on the
frog across the river.
It's like, oh, I won't stingyou, don't worry about it.
And then he stings.
He's like why do you think?
Well, I'm a scorpion, what'dyou think was going to happen?
So we do have some super chatsthat we got to get to before.
Before we we can either go tolocals or we could.
I don't know.
We can stay here.

(54:49):
We got a big but okay.
So if a doctor tells you to dosomething objectively disordered
and evil, your duty as a parentis to ignore the doctor, and
the same thing goes with apriest who's telling you to do
something disordered or evil.
I've heard for you, rob, whatmental defects would disqualify
somebody from owning a gun.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Right now they would have to be committed against
their will.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
I don't know if a 72-hour hold is enough or it has
to be um committed againsttheir will.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
You know, I don't know if you have a 72 hour hold
is enough or it has to be morethan that.
I would think if, even if youwere committed for a 72 hour
hold against your will, I thinkthat would be enough to prevent
you from owning a gun legallyalso any kind of domestic
violence dispute that you have.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
You're domestic violence any felony, obviously
things like that.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
But well, I would add to that schizophrenia yeah,
yeah, I think thatschizophrenics should not own
firearms but also, uh, drug use,whether it's marijuana,
narcotics, um, even if you'retaking prescription pills, you
shouldn't be all that yeah,you'd have to tell the truth on
on the.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
You'd have to tell the truth on the form, though,
because they kind of go byscouts.
Honor on that.
Yeah, you have to tell thetruth on on the.
You'd have to tell the truth onthe form, though, because they
kind of go by scouts.
Honor on that one you would.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
And well, except for the criminal stuff, because they
do run it through a background.
So, yeah, if you have a felonyand you say you don't, they will
find that they might find aninvoluntary commitment.
But yeah, like the drug stuffthat's why.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
That's why hunter biden's gun, hunter biden's gun
was technically illegal becausehe was smoking crack.
He just lied about it.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
So then it's two felonies you owned one while you
smoked crack and you lied onthe 4473.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yeah, I've seen comments on Twitter about the
amount of firepower this guy hadas compared to his probable
income because he was unemployed.
Do you have any info to be ableto comment on that?

Speaker 3 (56:34):
So it looked like he had an old school Smith Wesson
like maybe Model 10 or somethinglike that 38 revolver.
Those can be somewhatcollectible, but still you're
looking at 700 or 800.
Something like that might be afamily heirloom so that might
have been in the family already.
He had a cheap Taurus 9mmhandgun.

(56:54):
You're looking at 300 bucksthere.
Probably you can get them used,or at pawn shops for 200, you
know.
So that much there.
The shotgun was um a mossberg,uh shockwave, so probably four,
four to five hundred there.
And then I I didn't, I didn'tsee anything that told me

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exactly what the ar was.
But you can get an ar hit itout like that for seven, eight
hundred.
So I mean total, yeah, you'reprobably, you're probably
looking at five grand two, ohjust say two, two two grand at
2500 total.
But I mean, you know a lot ofpeople use those shock waves as

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as home defense, so maybe thatwas like his dad's home defense.
Yeah, that smith and wessonmight have been a family
heirloom.
So if you're really justlooking at a cheap torus 9
millimeter and a cheap ar, notmuch all right.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
So all right, there's nothing to that.
Um, the demonic premise is godwas wrong when he made you
desecrate the image of god inwhich you were made and remake
yourself in your own image, bendreality to your will and become
like god yeah, that's exactlyit.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Um, I would add to that that, uh, there's a reason
why demons possess people andangels don't because it is a
diabolical inversion of theincarnation.
When lucifer said I will becomelike god, what is he saying?
He's saying I want to becomeincarnate too.
So he possesses people in orderto recreate or to establish his

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means of becoming incarnate.
This is why the antichrist atthe end of the world is going to
be somebody who is perfectlypossessed.
A lot of people say, oh, it'sgoing to be the devil incarnate.
No, that won't happen.
That won't happen.
But he can perfectly possesssomebody and a lot of the church
fathers believe that that'swhat's going to happen.
So if he perfectly possessessomebody, it will be that

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perfect mockery of theincarnation.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah, this is a good question For those who saw any
imagery from the videos fromtoday.
What are some good ways toprotect yourself spiritually?
It was also upsetting.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Well, I mean the first thing that you should be
doing.
I mean pray the rosary dailywith your family.
I can't imagine a strongerfamilial protection.
Now, during a storm, I goaround with a bottle of holy
water and I sprinkle all fourcorners of the house and I
sprinkle around the property tomake sure that you know, and I
ask God, I say quick prayer andI ask God to protect our house,

(59:29):
protect our family, protect ourhome.
Well, you can do the same thingto protect your family and your
kids spiritually.
Something else I wouldrecommend is, at the end of the
evening, when you say your nightprayers with your family, take
some holy water or some blessedoil exercised oil, if you have
it and make the sign of thecross on their foreheads with it
and bless your family.

(59:49):
The fathers should be doingthis every night and you know
it's not a silver bullet, but Ican tell you you're going to see
the spiritual benefits veryquickly and they do compound it,
does build on that and you'llsee the grace is working in your
family uh, it looks likeyoutube went back to normal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
It's back, it's down around 600.
That was very bizarre.
That was weird.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
We've never had like it's a glitch.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
It started just yeah, but it might affect the after
show and make it spread furtherin the algorithm.
That's true.
You know, like if it had 10 000live viewers, even if it's a
glitch, it's gonna push it inthe algorithm either way.
That was so weird.
I just started watching itgoing up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Rob texted me and I texted him at the exact same
time the feds don't work after9pm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Thoughts on Pope Leo fast-tracking canonization for
today's martyrs.
I think it would be a greatmessage of the resilience of the
faith.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
I'll be honest, I kind of have a problem with
calling them martyrs.
I do too Wait what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Wait, say that again, Rob.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
The two kids that died yeah yeah, yeah, I don't
like that.
I have a problem calling themmartyrs.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
A martyr is somebody who makes a choice to die for
the faith.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Yeah, you can't get killed at a mass and let's say
there's a bombing, you know.
Let's say there's a, a jihad onyour parish, and everybody dies
.
Like you didn't willinglychoose martyrdom, you just were.
I mean, it's, it's, it'sprobably a very holy way to die.
I'm not, you know yeah yeahit's a very holy way to specific

(01:01:34):
thing.
Yes, I agree with that.
So, um, aren't fit to own a gun, aren't fit to be in society.
Um, okay, uh, yes, mimi, youwould definitely wear a very
good boomer.
Um, okay, so, uh, we can, uh,you want to, we can head over to
locals.

(01:01:55):
We should head over to locals.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
We have 10,000 people in.
So what about the HolyInnocents?
Do we call them martyrsofficially?
I mean, they're in the Romanmartyrology, are they not?

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
They are.
They are.
There is a tradition that theyhad or were given the capacity
to choose their martyrdom.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
It's not it's also they died.
They did die specifically sothat Christ could be born.
So I don't know if there'ssomething to that.
You know what.
That's a good thing to lookinto.
I would say what would be thedifference?
yep that's, uh, that's aninteresting one.

(01:02:41):
I didn't think of that, but Istill think, if you're, and and
also there have been um martyrsdeclared when it you know and
when muslims do attack churchesand stuff.
So I don't know, but that seemslike a more modern thing to do.
I know Pope Francis canonized abunch of Coptic martyrs that

(01:03:03):
endured something like that,which was a bit controversial.
But yeah, I don't know, I guessmaybe it's because they were
before the age of reason, hadsomething to do with it, um,
it's true, they couldn't havemade a choice regardless.
Yeah, Um, the children diedtoday because they love Christ

(01:03:25):
and the shooter hated them.
Um, yeah, or at minimum, theirparents, their parents were
raising them to love Christ, atminimum.
So, um, let me, uh, let me lookthrough what I have for this
super chat wants to do?

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
what do we think about people saying alcohol is
worse than weed?
I think they're retarded.
Uh well, to be quite honest, itdepends.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
It depends I Now I'll .
It depends the context of both,I think.
If you're talking aboutsomebody under 21 using weed and
it becomes like a psychotropicthing and it winds up driving
them crazy, yeah, that's verydangerous.
But I think the effects ofalcohol, when they're abused,
are far worse than somebodysmoking too much pot.

(01:04:11):
I just do.
I've seen, I've seen thedestruction caused by both and
I'm maybe I'm using anecdotalevidence, but I think alcohol in
moderation is totally fine.
I think weed in moderation is adifficult thing to do because
it's a.
It's a hallucinogenic to somedegree.
But I've seen the abuse ofalcohol cause havoc in people's

(01:04:36):
lives in a way that I, you know,I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I mean, I guess we could too, but yeah, if you
think about it like I was justgonna say, think of the people
who you've seen lives destroyedby harder drugs.
Did it start with weed?
Oh yeah, I'm not, I'm notdefending weed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
You guys say it's an l.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I know, I know you're not.
I'm not defending weed.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I'm just talking about, like when you see the
abuse of alcohol and whatalcohol abuse can do, but I
think in moderation, like havinga drink or two is completely,
totally fine.
There's nothing, I'm just andyes, we does make you lazy.
I'm not defending weed at all,I'm just I'm I don't know, I was
just.
I just didn't want to jump toanswer that one quickly without
giving it a little thought,that's all.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
So here I want to go back to the holy innocence thing
real quick.
I have a couple of quotes thatI think are helpful.
Uh, prudentious wrote this it'sa salve flores martyrum.
Uh, and it here's thetranslation of it.
It says hail all you flowers ofmartyrdom whom, at life's very
door, christ's persecutors slewas storms a newborn roses kill,

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or the newborn roses kill tenderflock.
You are the first of offeringsto Christ before his altar.
Innocent, with palms and crown,you play St Irenaeus says this
suddenly remove these childrenbelonging to the house of David,
whose happy lot it was to havebeen born at that time that he

(01:06:10):
might send them on before intohis kingdom.
He, since he was himself aninfant, so arranging it that
human infants should be martyrs,slain according to the
scriptures for the sake ofChrist, who was born in
Bethlehem of Judah, in the cityof David, um.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
So the way that it's described is um it's almost like
they're an offering for Christ,specifically because, because
Aaron was so, aaron was an evil,wicked man.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
He was a precursor of Antichrist.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah, and he.
I mean for him to just go andmurder all those children
because he felt a threat to histhrone.
I feel like you know, they weredirectly offered as a sack,
like their lives were sacrificedin order to save Christ.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
It's like well, it's more than that.
They were martyrs in a veryunique way, because their death
helps to prove that Christ isthe fulfillment of the Old
Testament prophecy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's.
I think it's, I think it's adifferent category than what we
dealt with today.
Although these kids wereinnocent, you know, um, they did
nothing.
They did nothing to deservewhat they got today.
It's just, you know it, itcomes down to did they choose it
?
But I, you know, there is alsothis aspect of um, this, this

(01:07:35):
bizarre coincidence of theamerican pope being elected and
then this happens in a catholicchurch within three months of
his election, and then you havethese links to the three-letter
agencies and stuff, like part ofthis just feels like there's
something they're messing withus on man, and I know it's very
conspiratorial.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Well, you want to go down a little conspiracy hole.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Should we do it on locals?
I think we should do it onlocals.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Because we could get into the manifesto and we could
maybe play a little clip orsomething of that video if
anybody hadn't seen it.
I don't want to glorifyanything this guy did.
If anything, we'll mock him.
I don't want to glorify him, Idon't want anything like that.
It's just to just get a littlebit of a glimpse into the the
depravity of this guy's mind.
I think we're better off doingit over on locals and, uh, it's

(01:08:26):
also good to to reward our localsupporters.
So, um, yeah, we're gonna headover there let me pull up the
link real quick.
Yeah, for anybody that's not aLocals member.
What we're going to be doing iswe did one yesterday, we did
the advice show yesterday.
We're going to be doing thoseonce a month and we're only
really going to offer those toYouTube members and local

(01:08:47):
subscribers.
So if you're a YouTube memberor a local subscriber, you'll
get a chance to come on, ask aquestion and we subscriber
you'll get a chance to come on,ask a question.
We'll see how that goes.
If we don't have enough peopleto fill that show with our
locals and members, then we'llopen it to YouTube, but they're
always going to get first dibs.
Our locals members are the oneswho actually keep the lights on
for Rob and I, and YouTubereally doesn't pay much of
anything.
So we, uh, we, we can'tcontinue doing this without

(01:09:10):
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So if you guys do like the show, please help support us over
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Oh wait, before we go, Michael,let's promote, let's promote
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How can, how can, how canpeople find you, michael?
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Excuse me, Lepanto I N dot O RG.
You can follow us on X, Lepantoinst, or you can find me on
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We've exposed Catholic reliefservices five ways.
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Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
So yeah and uh, if everybody can say a prayer for
kennedy hall's wife.
Uh, kennedy just got um his,his son who's to be born is
going to have a congenital heartdisease.
That they're uh, they're notsure what, what kind of
surgeries he may need and stuff.
So if you guys can offerkennedy and his family up in
your rosary tonight and thenwe're gonna head over well

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before we go over.

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If you want to get a good dealand get a lot of content for
your money, buy a yearlysubscription to to our locals.
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But you guys, you could get infor a very cheap price now by
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You're going to have access toa lot of people's stuff If you
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So okay, let's go Rob.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Okay.