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The age-old question of how to handle crying babies at Mass sparks a deeper conversation about parenting, reverence, and the future of the Church. "If your Mass ain't crying, it's dying" captures an important truth about vibrant parishes, but where's the line between welcoming families and maintaining sacred worship?

As Catholic fathers, we dive into the practical realities of bringing children to Mass—sharing our own struggles, successes, and the occasional parenting mishaps. We explore the profound difference between an infant's occasional cry and the entitled parenting that allows older children to disrupt Mass without intervention. The challenging truth is that parents have a responsibility not just to bring children to church, but to gradually teach them appropriate behavior in sacred spaces.

From our personal experiences—taking restless four-year-olds to the narthex, teaching toddlers to recognize Jesus at the Consecration, and receiving both death glares and encouragement from fellow parishioners—we offer insights into this delicate balance. We acknowledge the special challenges of traveling families, single parents, and children with special needs, while emphasizing how even very young children can begin to understand the reverence due to the Eucharist.

Beyond the baby debate, we tackle controversial topics including Eucharistic procession protests in Texas, the jaw-dropping story of someone willing to spend $17,000 on cat cancer treatments, and concerning trends in Catholic apologetics. We finish with hopeful signs of traditional Catholicism's resurgence among young Americans seeking substance and meaning in an increasingly rootless culture.

Join us for this honest, sometimes humorous exploration of Catholic family life and the challenges of raising faithful children in today's world. Your experience matters—how do you handle the crying baby question at your parish?

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
One of the worst sounds in the world is a baby
crying.
I think I read somewhere thatwhen they were trying to torture
prisoners of war, they wouldpipe in the sound of babies
crying.
It's painful to hear babiescrying.
Why do babies cry?
Why?
Why do babies cry?
Why?
Why do babies cry?
Children cry because they likebeing jerks.
I love Father Mike again.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yes, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
People get so upset about the crying babies position
I take and I don't understandit.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I hear you threatened Taffy with the horse head in
his bed if he didn't make thatfor us.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Taffy has put himself in a position where he has to
give us an intro for everyepisode now.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, and because he started off doing it for Taff,
we're never going to pay youeither.
Yeah, we're never paying.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
you are just our, our opening video servant, because
I gotta tell you his openingvideo, like our the beginning of
our song going right intosomething by taffy, is my
favorite intro for the show yeahyeah, yeah, it's by far.
Uh, father Mike no longercringed.
Yeah, this debate isinteresting because the saying

(01:34):
if your mass ain't crying, it'sdying is very prevalent, to the
point where somebody forged asaying by St John Chrysostom
saying something along thoselines.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
And not even one of the good ones by St.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
John Chrysostom.
There's zero chance, st JohnChrysostom, saying something
along those lines, not even oneof the good ones by saint john
chrysostom there's zero chance.
Saint john chrysostom said thatlike not even, not even remote
possibility and the uh.
The thing is what it has done,that saying your mass ain't
crying, if your mass ain'tcrying, it's dying.
I get the sentiment.
It means you want youngchildren at mass because it
means your families are growingand you have a thriving parish,

(02:06):
which is very true.
But what it has done is given asense of entitlement to certain
parents who think when theirkid cries it's actually a good
thing and not even so much thecrying kids.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
It's the older kids that are misbehaving and whining
and, trust me, my kids do thisquite often.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
All kids do this.
It's what kids do.
But I said today that I havewitnessed some of the worst
parenting in my entire life atMass.
Now I will say they typicallyat a Novus Ordoordo, but I've
seen the trad parishes too.
Um, not my regular parishes.
The children of the parishes Igo to are all saints.

(02:50):
They genuflect by nine months.
They uh, beat their chest, asthey confess.
They beat their chest at ninemonths, um, but no, I've seen,
I've been in a position wheretwo siblings will be fighting in

(03:10):
the pews and the parents donothing.
And it's like you have anobligation as a parent at that
point to separate the kids.
It's.
I've had my own teenagedaughters were giggling at mass
recently, like a weeks ago, andI literally put one on one side
of me and one on the other.
Like you, you have to be aparent.
Still, it's like like no, we'renot getting mad if your baby

(03:33):
starts to cry, but if the baby'scontinuously crying, you have
to take the baby into thevestibule of the narthex.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Oh, yeah, and, and as I was telling you in the green
room, like you know, we travelfour hours round trip for mass,
uh, and that means that meanslike my four-year-old has had a
two-hour car car ride, but thenhe gets to mass on, you know,
midday, sunday.
He is, he is energetic and he'sa little terror, yeah, so I

(04:02):
spend most of the mass in theexwith him.
Right, just because he's alittle terror doesn't mean he
gets to terrorize everyone elseat mass.
Iggy, not Maddie.
Maddie is getting better becausenow he's able to, he can read
now, so he's reading hischildren's missile and really
starting to take it all in, and,since we've made the full time

(04:23):
switch to TLM and told them thereasons why he's starting to
take it all in, and, um, sincewe've made the full-time switch
to tlm and told them the reasonswhy, he's starting to take that
very seriously too.
So, yeah, yeah, really it's.
In the last couple months he'smade a huge, a huge switch so
how old is maddie?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
six okay, and and iggy's what?
Four, four okay.
So I remember um with all mykids, but especially my youngest
was stella, um, by the time shewas three that's my mom I want
to know how rob was at manson.
He was a baby um, yeah, I don'tknow actually, when.

(04:59):
Well, I'll tell you this growingup, my mom had nine kids, and
so when you have that many kids,though, the older ones tend to
then take care of the youngerones, right.
So we would go to mass and itwould be the older four would
actually hold the younger onesand, like we would take, I knew
it.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
I was perfect.
You know why?
Because me and my brother wewere threatened with.
Don't make me have to take yououtside like to the car.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
That was bad.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, because the parish's parking lot was right
up the hill.
You know, if you got taken outto the car, that meant you were
being put in the car, doorsclosed and you were getting
spanked and no one could hearyou cry.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
There's one thing that the older generation did
discipline their children.
We do deal with this gentleparenting nonsense now, but so,
but I remember my youngestespecially.
But I did it with all of them,but and this was it's
interesting because this was ata nova sordo parish too, but
they still rang the bells at theconsecration and by two, three

(06:03):
years old, I was already tryingto teach my kids that something
important was happening up atthe altar.
And when the bells ofconsecration would get rung um,
my daughter, when she was twoand three years old, will go
jesus, jesus.
So, like even now when we go tomass, my youngest will still
look over at me when the bellsof consecration get wrong, as

(06:25):
kind of like an inside joke,because I used to hold her and
she would go Jesus, jesus andshe would whisper it like
because they, she knew when thebells were wrong that that was
something important happening.
So you know, there's I've I'veseen people allow their six and
seven year olds to eat Cheeriosin the pew and play with noisy

(06:45):
toys, and it's like you do havean obligation to start teaching
your kids that somethingimportant is happening at the
altar.
Like I understand, two years old, three years old, that's.
That's a bit much.
But somebody told me today that, uh, they were in the cry room
and one of the parents broughtMcDonald's in for their kid and
set them up with chicken nuggetsand dipping sauce in the cry

(07:06):
room and it's like do you knowthe?
lesson you're teaching yourchild at that point.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, like you know, we we've had, we've brought
snacks, uh, not so much, aminadoesn't really need.
Um, it was mostly milk we wouldbring uh maddie, especially
when you're a year old.
Well, it was like two, three,but it was also after a long car
ride.
But they've kind of grown outof that and mina mina doesn't

(07:34):
mean, it's not like that as much.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
So I can understand snacks for a smaller, younger
child, especially if you have along car ride, but chicken
nuggets with dipping sauce yeah,that's a bit much, but I'm not
and I'm not even talking aboutthe two-year-olds like I'm
serious when I say like seven,eight year, like these are kids
that are probably those are kidsthat should be getting ready
for first communion firstcommunion like past, like at the

(07:56):
age of reason, like there's noexcuse for unless your kid has
special needs, like I dounderstand.
There's a lot of children withautism and things like that.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's a very different situation yeah, there's a lot
of exceptions to things we'retalking about, so no one get
offended because yeah, there areexceptions, but absolutely, but
for the most part, like youshould be.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
So the thing is like I never, ever, hit my kids once
in their lives.
So I know a lot of people willcriticize that it's not gentle
parenting.
If I raised my voice, my likemy children have a healthy fear
of their father, so that if Ieven raise my voice, my kids are
like, oh, my goodness, likethey're terrified of me getting

(08:34):
upset, not me hitting them, theyjust they're just afraid of me
getting upset.
So it's like I I don't I'll getthe the parents who are letting
their kids make noise active ina pew.
It's like I get the kids mightbe a little restless, but you
have an obligation as a parentto keep the noise down and do
your best.

(08:54):
I'm not even saying you'regoing to be successful, but you
need to try, cause when I seethe parents just staring up at
the altar doing nothing whiletheir kids are bickering, I'm
like I want to go over and likediscipline their children.
I get furious at it now.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Now there's, there's another side of this, and I see
this, or have seen it much moreoften, at um, your typical uh,
boomer filled novice ordo, whereyou know your kid lets out and
I mean like an infant lets out asmall cry, and you'll see a few
older people turn towards youand give you a death glare and

(09:30):
like I mean that's, that's likethe opposite side of this, where
, where they don't understand,like their so-called
participation, their attention,superspeed and mass yeah,
doesn't matter.
You know what I mean.
Like mass doesn't matter.
You know what I mean.
Like it doesn't affect the mass.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, kale, saying in the old days people wouldn't
even go to mass if there werekids.
But what I was saying earlieris like my parents had nine kids
.
The older ones would hold theyounger ones.
I can't remember a singleSunday where we left mass and
somebody didn't come up to mymother and say I cannot believe
how well behaved your childrenare, and that and that's going
from six months old a year and ahalf old.

(10:12):
Like my parents kids were allIrish twins.
They're all like within 18months apart.
So it was like, well, no,there's a, so there's the older
four are all like a year and ahalf apart, and then there's an
eight year gap between mikey andjoey and then the bottom five
are all 18 months apart.
So there's.
But there was never a sundaywhere we would leave mass, where

(10:33):
somebody didn't come up to mymom and just be like I cannot,
you have such a beautiful family.
I cannot believe how wellbehaved your children are, like
it was.
It was like they all knew youdo not act up at mass, you know.
So I, I have, I give, I give.
If mom's there alone with thekids, there's a lot more leeway
given, obviously, but if dad'sthere.
I give no leeway.
Like your kids, if you givethem a look at mass, your kids

(10:57):
should go.
That's man.
Or like you're in your case,like your young, your young son
is restless from the car ride.
You take him outside and youmake sure he's not disrupting
mass for everybody.
You know it's just.
It's just common courtesy, guys.
It doesn't mean we don't lovechildren.
It doesn't mean it's just becourteous to the people around
you.
You're not entitled because youhave kids oh yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, we love, trust me, we love kids like I.
Have not attended a like a massand gotten to just sit there
and partake in six years sincemaddie was born, and it's not
ending anytime soon no, yeah,you're gonna keep pumping them
out, probably, so promise agreat treat to the kids if they

(11:41):
are well behaved at.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Mass carrot, not the stick.
That's a good, that's good.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of different look
and every kid's going to bedifferent, but we often take
them to like the uh, because we,you know, we drive the two
hours to the bigger city.
Uh, there's a lot more stuffthat we can do there that we
don't get the opportunity here,so we'll often take them to the
aquarium or zoo or somethinglike that after mass.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
So yeah, I always, whenever we would go to holy
innocence, we would do that likeI would take the.
If we went to holy innocencebecause it was an hour and a
half ride into the city, wewould always go for like a
special brunch after me andnicole would take him to the met
or we would, you know, dosomething uh we are.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
We are catholic bill we are catholic.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
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(14:11):
before we get to the main topic.
I want to cover two videos.
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Speaker 3 (14:25):
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Speaker 3 (14:36):
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Speaker 2 (14:42):
uh, that was the pillar article right?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
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I sent a lot of stuff today.
Yeah, I do that at times.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I'm sorry guys don't say sorry to them I'm the one
that has to deal with.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
You are the one that has to go through it.
Okay, so protest promptsperpetual pilgrims pull from
procession.
Is that a tongue twister orwhat protest prompts perpetual
pilgrims pull from procession.
Is that a tongue twister orwhat Protest prompts perpetual
pilgrims?
Pull from procession.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Thank you, JD.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Okay, here we go.
Jd Flynn yeah, protest promptsperpetual pilgrims.
Pull from procession.
Amid ongoing protests during anational walking Eucharistic
pilgrimage, organizers pulledfull-time perpetual pilgrims
Saturday from a Eucharisticprocession in Abilene, texas, as
demonstrators have begunharassing and taunting pilgrims

(15:36):
by name during the publicprocessions.
I'm having a hard time withsaying that, and San Angelo's
Bishop, michael Siss Is MichaelSiss the that um had the issue
with the nuns in his diocese?
He might told the pillarsaturday that he's urged
catholics?
I think that might be.
Uh urged catholics, uh, to keepyour focus on jesus, despite

(16:00):
the protest, while encouraginglaw enforcement officials to
ensure the safety of theEucharistic processions,
officials with the NationalEucharistic Congress and the
Diocese of San Angelo, texas,told the Pillar on background
Saturday that eight college-ageperpetual pilgrims of the
National Eucharistic Pilgrimagewould not participate in public

(16:21):
procession events during theirJune 7th and 8th visit to West
Texas and the diocese.
The pilgrimage is an eight-weekjourney from Indianapolis to LA
, part of a three-yearEucharistic revival called for
by the US Bishops Conference andprimarily organized by the
Congress.
Blah blah, blah blah.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
They're saying it's not the same bishop.
That was Bishop Olsen Fort.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Worth.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Since the first week of theprocession, protesters have
demonstrated along the route,primarily organized by the
Church of Wells, a Texas-basedreligious group which criticizes
Eucharistic adoration ascontrary to the Christian gospel
.
I will say this at leastthey're consistent, right?

(17:03):
I mean, if they're going toaccuse us of idol worship like
this, this is the thing theyaccuse us of idol worship for.
They are filthy heathens, don'tget me wrong, I'm just.
At least they're logicallyconsistent.
Protests have escalated inrecent weeks, with demonstrators
shouting scriptural admonitions, playing musical instruments
and calling these are people arelike disgusting leftists.
Instruments and calling theseare people are like disgusting

(17:27):
leftists.
Like like when you, when yousee like a conservative go to
speak and they try to make noiseand just like round them out.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
That's what they're doing I wonder if they ever
include any of john six andtheir scriptural ad.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Oh, of course not a chance, and calling both to
petra, perpetual pilgrims, andto catholics joining the
eucharistic processions held incities visited by the pilgrimage
.
The demonstrators have led toincreased security.
Protestants have in recent daysbegun harassing pilgrims by
name, sources said ahead of thedecision to withhold their

(17:58):
participation in the Saturdayevening Eucharistic procession.
Why do they have to add so manywords that are unnecessary?
Reportedly a processionscheduled for San Angelo on
Sunday, but as the perpetualpilgrims sat out the Saturday
evening procession, protesterswere not found along the route,
leaving uncertain whetherdemonstrators will arrive in San
Angelo Sunday and whether thatcould impact the participation

(18:20):
of the pilgrims.
It is also not clear whetherthe pilgrims will participate in
public events, and how did theyget their names?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
so these perpetual pilgrims are more or less
college kids who are being arepart of the procession the
entire way right, whereas mostof the people involved are local
town at the moment.
These are are people that areinvolved from the very beginning
, so their, their names arepublished like on the the

(18:49):
congress's website and stufflike that where are the uh texas
catholics there to counterprotest is what I want to know,
like why?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
why are there?
Why is there not security by,like local parishes, making sure
these animals don't affect ourprocessions?
It's an interesting thing.
We're in a Protestant country,especially Texas.
Texas is a very heavily BibleBelt country.
Right, would that be consideredBible Belt?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Texas.
I think it depends on the parts, part of Texas, like I think it
depends on the the parts uhpart of part of that.
You know, yeah, like maybe easttexas, north texas, but like
southern texas is going to belargely, you know, hispanic and
catholic it's like the the thingthat converted the pagans was
our pageantry and ourprocessions and things like that

(19:41):
.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
It's just like like I don't know, do you think the
bishop should have told them topull out, or do you think he
should have pilgrims?
Yeah, like is the processionstill going on?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
he just told the procession still going on.
Okay, he's just saying likethese, these people seem to be
literally targeting these peopleby name.
So for those individual safety,maybe they shouldn't be there
at this.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, and I get that.
That's.
That's fair.
Yeah, all right, I thought, aslong as you didn't cancel the
actual procession no, I don'tbelieve so when I first heard
this I thought it was going tobe like, uh, the westborough
baptist church or something.
I was there in dallas I have.
I have to laugh at one pointthat the guy yelled we are here

(20:27):
risking our lives to bring youthe truth, it's like this.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
We're not in la right now.
Dude like settle down.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
They're so dramatic, like to think of, like, what
real dangers to this country are.
They're protesting.
Eucharistic processions thesepeople are sick.
Um, texas is heavily, uh,southern baptist in my
experience.
Uh, the the thing is that's,that's, this is true.
Right, they understand thatthis is a spiritual war, but

(20:55):
they don't understand they areon the wrong side.
Eucharistic processions areeucharistic armies of the
faithful marching to taketerritory.
So, yeah, well, if you'relooking at it as Catholic versus
Protestant, they're right to gofor that, because that actually
is the thing that will converthearts.
Like Rob, I'm in New York Cityand Father Maiara from Holy

(21:18):
Innocence will do Eucharisticprocessions through New York
City, yep, and you'll get tworeactions, well, three.
Some people will obviously justwalk by and not even
acknowledge it.
But then you'll get theCatholics who have something
deep in their heart that, evenif they're not like practicing
Catholic, when they see amonstrance they'll get on their

(21:41):
knees and make the sign of thecross.
And it's a very powerful imageto have a procession going by
with that monstrance.
And what's the canopy called,do you know?
Oh, I forget.
I know that word.
They walk with this canopy andthe monstrance and you'll just
see these construction workersthat are working on a job site

(22:02):
and they'll just drop to theirknees and make the sign of the
cross.
It's a very powerful image, butthen you'll also get that
chaotic, satanic reaction frompeople who like it's like the
demons arousing them.
You know it's, it's it.
It's a very cool thing towitness.
In new york.
There's a, there's a youtubevideo called uh uh, I know what

(22:24):
you're talking.
It's called jesus christ in thecity, or?
something I think we've evenplayed part of it on here before
it's so cool and you just youget a glimpse of what it looks
like when father mayara walksthrough with the eucharist um,
so yesterday we were gonna go,uh, but we didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I actually have crazy , crazy weekend stories.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Oh, let's hear them.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I love it, but I'll go into them after after this.
But yesterday here in ourdiocese in Duluth we had the the
our local Novus Ordo parish.
The first priest of that parishis right now.
Is is venerable and has an opencause for sainthood.

(23:07):
His name was Monsignor JosephBoo.
He was a Slovenian missionarywho came here for all the
Slovenian miners and alsoconverted a lot of the native
tribes up here.
But anyways, his cause forsainthood is open and last year
they got permission to exhumehis body from where he was
buried and yesterday theyprocessed it through the city of

(23:32):
Duluth to the cathedral to beentombed in the cathedral.
So wait, people thinkEucharistic processions are
weird.
This one was probablyespecially weird, but that's
that.
But that's weird in like anamazing, awesome, the macabre,
the macabre of catholicism.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, is my favorite part of it, like the veneration
of relics is the coolest.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Glad you guys patched things up since last week I
want to, so so I, I, when I,when I'm not on the show, I
don't watch it, because then I'mlike what was the point of me
Not, you know, like not being.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I'm taking a break.
You need a break.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
So the next morning I wake up to numerous emails
asking if everything's okay,saying they're praying for me
and aunt, and I'm like Whoa,whoa, whoa, what happened?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
He texts me and he goes.
What the hell did you sayyou're?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
the worst.
What did you say?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
what the hell did you say?
People are sending me messagesasking if we're okay.
I'm like dude.
I said like the silliest, likemost sarcastic opening.
I was like, yeah, me and robhad a falling out.
I'm interviewing new co-hostsright now, like it's just so
silly.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
But like two minutes later you said it was a joke.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, like like literally a minute and a half
later I was like, no, this iswhat really happened to rob.
But people thought I wasserious.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
So yeah so.
So this ties in well to ourweekend story.
So last Thursday I missed,because Wednesday, my middle
child, iggy.
He still sleeps in pull-ups.
He's potty trained but he'sstill working on holding it all

(25:19):
night, so he sleeps in pull-ups.
He had a massive bout ofdiarrhea in his sleep, slept
through it, it blew out of thepull-up, he slept through it and
rolled around in it.
So he woke up head to toecovered and I mean it was on his
face.
Like I, I I go to wake him upin the morning and he crawls out
of bed and I'm seeing this andhe turns to face me and I see it

(25:40):
on his face and I'm like Ialmost throw up on the poor kid.
So so he.
So that was a bad way to wakeup and he was.
He had diarrhea all day andit's like, okay, I'm gonna take
the night off, work on gettingiggy feeling better.
You know all that, especiallybecause on friday we traveled
down to the twin cities for ourdrive, because hope's nephew was

(26:02):
getting married on saturday.
So we wanted to drive downthere Friday, get settled into a
hotel and have a fun daySaturday and stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
I'm sorry, that's a funny line.
That's what happens.
It's a good line, Jim.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
So about 30 minutes from the drive being done.
We're just pulling into theTwin Cities.
We've got 20, 30 minutes fromthe drive being done.
We're just pulling into theTwin Cities.
We got 20-30 minutes left.
Matty throws up in the car.
He has a history of being carsick.
We were just finishing upalmost five of our drive.
I figured he got car sick.
Okay, no big deal, we get himcleaned up.
We get to the hotel, getsettled in.

(26:42):
He throws up again.
That's not car sickness's avirus.
Then 20 minutes after that hethrows up again.
Oh no, and then iggy hasdiarrhea and you know.
So it just you.
Huh, did you or hope get it?
Yes, the next morning I startedwith stomach aches.

(27:06):
By Saturday night I'm throwingup multiple times.
So we call Hope's sister, saywe just drove five hours to the
Twin Cities and we can't come toyour wedding.
We can't come to the wedding,yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
At that point it's like, even if you could suck it
up and go, it's not fair to theguests, right?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
nobody else wants to get it right, but even then,
like we're, no one is hardlygoing half an hour without
having issues, right, yeah, well, okay.
So I made sure to get a hotelwith a pool, right.
We can't let the kids swim ifthey're having, you know,
diarrhea.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well, our room's, overlooking the pool and the
kids want to go in the pool soliterally all day.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
All day, saturday we're in the hotel room all sick
, the kids are looking down atthe pool knowing they can't swim
.
Hope can't go to the wedding wewere supposed to go to.
We would have just drove homebut, like I said, none of us are
going more than half an hourwithout issues.
So five hour car rides notgonna happen not even have been
did you say two nights?
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
yeah, we did, but like the the thing, the thing
about stories like this, thoughthey're the only ones you
remember so it's like it's I,like I just I had to to call
Bobby today because somethingreally bad happened to me.
Uh, I'm not going to tell it onthis side, I'll tell it on.

(28:31):
Okay, it's just very expensiveproblem happened to me, very,
very, very expensive, um, andit's like these, these things
happen to us and in the momentyou're like, oh my gosh, this is
the worst thing that everhappened.
But like five, ten years fromnow you're gonna look back and
be like you remember the time wewent to that wedding, like we

(28:51):
were all stuck in that stupidroom, like and that'll be a
story to tell, like I, I don'tlook at like bad things the way
I used to now, especiallybecause because it's like these
are the things you remember.
You look back on your life, thethings that stand out are the
things.
Those are your memories.
You don't remember the mundane.

(29:11):
You would have went to someboring-ass wedding and it would
have just been some boringwedding.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Not the worst part, but another.
This ended up not being a nicehotel.
I saw the pictures online andthe pictures looked great.
We get there and it's it's runby a family from a certain oh
boy, uh, from a certain uh,let's just say they're probably
related to kash patel and youknow like if you just open your

(29:43):
eyes and take five like look atanything in the hotel for five
seconds right and close youreyes, it looked pretty good you
start looking for more than fiveseconds, you see that nothing's
really clean, everything'sdirty and dingy and like the,
the wall, like they have thispainting hanging on the wall
with some fancy wallpaper underright.
Well, you look at it, it's not apainting, it's a frame, old,

(30:10):
with a paper, with artwork tapedto the outside of the frame,
not even in the frame, and thenthe the, you have the normal
wallpaper, then you havewallpaper right in line with the
frame.
Well, it's not like they putthat frame there and then they
kind of taped wallpaper,wallpaper kind of up on either
side, but it's not exactly level, it's kind of crooked.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
You know.
Yeah, me and nicole went toflorida one time.
We, we, uh we went down withanother couple and, um, when we
got to the hotel, like we bookeda hotel online and when you
looked online it was like itlooked beautiful.
We got there, we walked in theroom and it was just like in the
bathroom there was like moldbehind us.

(30:52):
I was like I I went into thatfreaking uh, the you know the
wherever, like the main lobby,whatever.
I lost my mind.
I was like I am getting arefund for every freaking dollar
.
We wound up going and finding a, an airbnb and staying there
instead.
It's just like a bad.
You were sick, you couldn'teven do any of that.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
It's like no, we didn't really notice it for the
first, like you know, halfbecause we're settling in and
stuff and figuring out.
Oh, now we're all sick.
By the time like we're startingto get ready to go to bed, I'm
seeing holes in the wall thatare kind of covered up by by
yeah hotel rooms in general arejust filthy, so it's like you

(31:33):
really do have to be verycareful so I really started to
notice when, like, I moved the achair, it was like a two-room
suite.
I moved the chair from what thelike the living area to the, to
the bedroom so that, like hope,can sit with mina, right, yeah.
And as I, as I go to move thechair, uh, candy wrappers start
to fall out from under thecushion and I'm like, oh no,

(31:54):
that's when I started to look ateverything closer, you know I'm
telling you, you and hope aregonna laugh about this.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
I actually um, I'm not going to say who it was, but
I so my wife talked to one ofher friends who may watch this
show.
So I but my wife talked to oneof her friends and her son had
an event this weekend and it waslike a hockey event and all the
guys went out after and theygot really drunk, yeah and he

(32:24):
got arrested.
Oh, like, like it was just likean incident.
It was like a really big deal,you know, and the mother was
heartbroken and I was tellingnicole, I'm like, yeah, but like
, first of like, it's just likea typical thing for a 20 year
old, like it's not that big of adeal, like he just got drunk
and he got out of control, yeah,and it's the same thing.

(32:45):
It's one of those things wherein the moment seems like the
worst thing in the world, but acouple of years from now you'll
look back on it.
It's just.
You'll be like.
You remember that weekend whereyou had I had to bail you out
of jail, like you have to isthis the thing you said you
weren't going to tell on thisside?

(33:08):
I just had something veryexpensive happen to me.
It's meant more for our closeraudience, it's not.
You know, the YouTube sidedoesn't need to hear it.
But yeah, it was just a veryexpensive mishap that has
happened to me that I'm dealingwith All all right.
So let's get to the the the catvideo, because I want to
discuss the psychotic wife andpeople are telling me it's AI.

(33:31):
No, what it is is.
It wasn't actually on a DaveRamsey episode.
It's to a different call andshow.
They just put Dave Ramseybehind it.
But this is a real thing.
That happened.
So it looks like Dave Ramsey islistening to.
I don thing that happened.
So it looks like dave ramsey'slistening to.
I don't know if it was a daveramsey show.
It might have been somethingelse.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Holy crap, sean is sean is sean is spot on sean, I
should have guessed spot on.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
And when I say expensive, you'll all think I'm
psychotic are you still going tobe a boat owner after this?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
or no.
I'm stuck in a position where Ihave to like I, otherwise
you're paying on something.
It'll cost me more to not fixit in the long run.
Like it's just so, dude, Iwon't even say the number, I
won't even say I called bobbytoday and I'm like you're the

(34:35):
only person I could tell this to, because everybody else will
think I'm like, I'm not evengonna her.
My brother-in-law is the one whouh, I all right, so, oh man, I
guess we're doing story time onyoutube.
I knew the boat was so at theend of last season the boat

(34:57):
broke.
You had to get it towed once ortwice, right?
Listen, here's the thing.
People call us grifters like.
I've had some really seriousthings happen, like I had my
boiler go out my my oil burner.
Bro, like rob and I have neverset up like a go fund me to help
rob's car freaking the motorbasically blew up on it like

(35:19):
neither of us have ever like.
Oh, help us do that like we doour show.
If you guys enjoy the show youcome to locals.
Neither of us have ever beggedfor money or asked for something
like I would never.
I'll tell you guys a story onthe other side that, like you
mean, you'll end up saying inabout 10 minutes, probably I'm
gonna save that one for theother side because this, that

(35:40):
one's so crazy.
But thank you one okay, justadded you on youtube like, like
the things that have happened toboth of us, where I know our
audience loves us enough thatthey would be generous and help
us shut up grover um, becausepeople, like people did, did
offer to set it well, not a.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
They were sending money, like when my car broke,
and I told them not.
Yeah, absolutely exactly.
But for those of you who did,thank you not just that, I have
to get half of it.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
I have a brother who's in a very bad like we
would never like.
If I ever set up a gofundme,it's it's a life or death thing.
Like it's gonna be, yeah, it'sgonna be.
Oh my gosh, like I would nevergrift off our audience or ask
them for money for somethingthat is not like holy cow, my

(36:30):
kid is sick or something likethat.
Like that's the only time Iwould ever do that.
So my brother-in-law, he allright.
So the boat broke down at theend of last season.
I had to have it towed in.
I had Joe Boca with me on theboat.
I was out with Joe Boca, wewent to Fire Island and then we
were on our way back and theboat breaks down so I had to

(36:52):
have it towed in.
I knew it was bad.
I had the mechanic justwinterize it and I'm like I'll
just deal with it next season,so the beginning of this season.
I'm like I don't, I don't evenlike there's no way.
So my brother-in-law was likelisten, I'm coming to pick the
boat up, I'm dropping it, mymechanic.
So he came, like two weeks agowe picked it right before we

(37:15):
went to Greece and he drops itas a mechanic.
And I'm like this, this is thisis.
You know, what sucks aboutowning a boat is you pay
insurance on it and a boat is,um, you pay insurance on it and
no matter what it, but but thethe insurance only covers
accidents, like if you hitanother boat or you, but like if
something severe happens to it,they don't cover it so that's
kind of like cars yeah, samething if your motor blows in

(37:36):
your car your insurance isn'tgoing to cover it, so it's

Speaker 1 (37:46):
like um new locals to your the bark of Peter.
That's actually funny.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
That's awesome.
That's genius, the bark ofAnthony Snorted.
Yeah, he's dancing, snorted.
All right, I might have had acocktail at the beginning of
this show, all right, so anyway.
So he, he picks my boat up andbrings it to his, to his

(38:11):
mechanic.
Now, um, his mechanic, he, somy brother-in-law calls me today
and he's like oh man, it's bad.
And he tells me he's like soyou're gonna talk to nicole
about it?
I'm like no, I don't think I'mgonna tell her.
He's like you're going to talkto Nicole about it.
And I'm like no, I don't thinkI'm going to tell her.
He's like you might want totalk to her, but no, I don't
even think I'm going to tell her.
I came home and I did tell her,just so you guys know.

(38:34):
The number.
I had to.
I mean, it's my wife.
I'm not going to not tell her,but I'll tell you, guys on the
other side, plus, if you don'ttell her she's going to just
keep ordering things from Amazon.
You got to tell her to try todecrease that.
Here's the issue.
It's that she keeps asking mewe need this done at the house,
we need this, and I'm like wedon't have the money.

(38:55):
We don't have the money, wedon't have the money Now you're
like, but we do have all moneyfor the boat, but now the boat
needs to be fixed.
I'm like he's like, wait aminute, you actually have enough
money to fix that boat.
I'm like, sick, wait, youactually have enough money to

(39:16):
fix.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I'm like yes, technically yeah that's not.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
That's not the problem.
All let's get to the cat story.
We're going to talk about thecat.
It's actually a good lead-in.
Babylon's a boat cow.
If you want to hear the rest ofthe story, come over to Locals
because we need a boat fund, soplease help support us on Locals
.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Seriously though our Locals number has leveled out
for a few months.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
We do need people to join.
We actually do need localsupport.
Our locals members have divebombed and people are not
renewing their subscription, sowe're going to do we got 20
minutes left and then we'regoing to locals.
So, um, I will, I will explainthis on locals too.
I'll explain why on locals andI'll tell it in hawaiian pigeon.

(40:10):
All right, let's play thatvideo.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
See people really people really did take that
seriously rob.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
I was at the get off the highway during the opening
of the last podcast when he saidthe tip with rob was out oh god
, listen, I'll say this.
I rob and I actually the.
Like one of the first episodeswe did, we said we will never
have a falling out like tnt,like it'll never end like that,

(40:36):
like we would rather lose thepodcast and lose our friendship,
like that's actually a realthing.
So if we ever did have a realfalling out, it would definitely
be presented to the audience ofwhy it happened, like what,
like I'm rob and I talk abouteverything, so it's not gets to
keep nick as a friend who getsyes, it's kale as a friend

(40:57):
bigger than me, just going oh, Igot rid of like that would
never be how I handled thatfirst off.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
If if he had just gotten rid of rob, thumbnail
would have looked different.
It wouldn't have workedbroadcasting to locals into
rumble.
He would have had more issues,like you guys would know if I
was gone molly.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
The first thing like I butchered, like all the videos
, is I bet she goes yeah, rob'snot going anywhere.
Rob's not going anywhere.
Rob's not going anywhere.
Anthony needs rob.
Do we have a pre-op?
All right, let's play the video, come on.
No, we don't have a pre.
We never even.
No, we're.
Oh, forget it.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
We'll be in trouble if we ever have a yeah, it will
be ugly, all right we've beenmarried for three and a half
years and we just welcomed ourfirst baby six months ago.
I work construction and my wifestays home with the baby.
But yeah, I'm the one bringingin the paycheck.
For the last two years I'vebeen saving every extra dollar

(41:55):
for house down payment.
Anyway, we've managed to stashabout $21,000.
It's not a fortune, but for usit's huge.
So here's where everything kindof went sideways.
Our cat turns out.
He's got this aggressive canceron his jaw.
Vet says they can try a surgeryand chemo combo that might buy

(42:15):
in time, but it's 17 grand upfront and no promise.
My wife loves that cat andwants to go all in for the
treatment.
Technically we do have 21K, butthat's the whole house fund.
And even if the surgery works,the vet said recovery's rough.
We'd need more follow-up visits, meds, maybe another procedure
could be thousands more.
I tried to explain the math.

(42:36):
You know, if we spend it, wereset the clock on the house.
Now she barely talks to me.
So yeah, I don't know what todo.
I love my wife, I love our baby.
Heck, I even love the cat.
But I also dreamed of handingher house keys this time next
year all right.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
I have to be honest, a very different perspective on
this video.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Before the boat broke like a very different
perspective oh my gosh you're soright you're the wife who wants
17 grand for the cat.
That's you.
That's you.
Except you've probably alreadyput about that much money into
it already.
Where's the cat's?

(43:22):
Like a hundred bucks, okay,wait.
I have a very differentperspective on this video.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Now Listen to me the cat is going to last, maybe
another year or two, but theboat is going to last many years
.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
It's going to be broken in another year.
No, I'm going to fix it right,that's my point, really.
I've known you for how manyyears.
Three, four, your boat isbroken all the time you go to
the emergency, run once a year.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Let's talk about this woman and her cat.
I don't want to talk about meand my boat.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
You go to the emergency run once a year
because you get hurt fixing yourboat.
That's not wrong.
Let's talk about thispsychopath and her cat.
The only good thing your boat'sever done for the podcast was
the one time your wife was onthe channel no, listen.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Uh, all right the thing.
All right, we'll talk about theboat on the other side.
Let's talk about this crazywoman and her cat.
Because of the dis, like, thedisproportionate of, like
obsession people have with theirpets, this guy is saving his
boats.
I ruined this whole guy.
I had so much to say about this.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I wouldn't have even made the connection until you
said that.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I had so much to say about this.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Um, all right, right, but okay, you might be right on
one thing.
Yeah, it's, it's a lot easierto take your cattle back and put
it down than it is to get ridof a broken boat like even
selling a broken boat can be apain.
Where's that cat?
That cat's easy to get rid of abroken boat Like even selling a
broken boat can be a pain,whereas that cat that cat's easy
to get rid of.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
The thing actually is with the cat.
It has to do with his wife'sdisordered affection for an
animal first off, but he alsohasn't bought his house yet.
He's not like.
You know what I mean.
It's like the idea of a womanlike, because a cat is going to

(45:29):
die, like it's it, there's noinvestment there.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
It's not like you save the cat and you can sell
the cat and get that 70 grandback right and even if you save
that cat's life like chemo andsurgery, like that animal is
suffering, and there isabsolutely no good that comes
from an animal suffering.
They, you know, they, they,they don't have rational souls,
their suffering doesn't attainany grace or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
So when an animal is is suffering unnecessarily, like
that is a true, you know, atrue evil, whereas, yeah, human
suffering can attain good um Iactually that's funny is I saw
molly actually tweet somethingvery similar to that and then
she deleted it for some reason,I don't know why.
Um, she did.

(46:15):
She tweeted something verysimilar to what, very similar to
what you just said, and thendeleted it.
I don't know why.
But the there's, that'sactually like a profound point.
Right, like the the I.
It'd be different if it wasyour child, right?
Yeah, you go into hock for yourchild to even get a few more
months of life for your child,but what she, what that woman's

(46:36):
actually doing, is not trying torelieve the cat suffering, is
trying to relieve her ownsuffering because she can't get
over the loss of her cat.
It's a very selfish thing to do.
Like the cat's going to be intorment For experiencing that,
you know, like, like it's thecat.
Imagine a cat going throughchemo and then jaw surgery.

(46:58):
Like the cat is going to beliving a horrible like that it's
.
It is more merciful to performeuthanasia on an animal it's not
the same thing as a human rightlike new york just passed this
assisted suicide bill, which isdisgusting and psychotic for a
human, but for an animal it isactually more merciful to just
put the animal out of its misery, because it's just going to

(47:20):
cause suffering.
There's absolutely noredemption in that suffering.
Yeah, 100%.
And not just that.
You think about all the hardwork the husband put in.
The husband has been workinghis ass off and he wants to go
and buy a home for his familyand she's giving him the silent
treatment over this.

(47:41):
Yeah, ladies, you're not doinganything to change my opinions.
I'm just saying you know what?
What's the girl?
The hillbilly something.
What's her Twitter name?

(48:02):
She told a story.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I forgot her full Twitter name, is it?

Speaker 3 (48:08):
just the hillbilly Catholic, yes, hillbilly
Catholic, or something.
She told the story.
She drove like an hour and ahalf to go to confession on
Friday and she got there andthere was a sign on the door
that said the priests were allat retreat over the weekend and
they're not going to be offeringconfession.
And there was an old lady atthe parish and she goes honey,
where are you going?
And she goes well, I came herefor confession.

(48:29):
She goes you drove a long way,didn't you?
She goes yeah, I drove about anhour.
She goes, you come with me.
And she took the woman back tosee the way.
And I was, like you restored myhope in women, because I have
called that stupid parish tomake an appointment for
confession and been told he'llbelieve things is her name.
I have been told by the womanat the parish that you need to

(48:52):
come between four and five onSaturday.
I'm like, well, I work onSaturdays and I'm not around
between four and five and I need, I need absolution.
Well, the priests are not goingto be available for you except
on Saturday for between four.
I said, do me a favor, just putthe priest on the phone, cause
I would like to ask him myself,but you put the priest on the
phone.
The priest goes come down tothe parish right now and I'll
hear your confession, and it'slike that's the typical woman

(49:16):
running the parish.
Yeah, um, and this wife.
I would hope most of the womenthat watch our show would never
put their family in jeopardyover an animal.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I don't think they would.
Bobby here has an amazing pointwherever there's animal worship
, there's human sacrifice.
That's interesting.
I never heard that quote youhave.
You have women wanting to spend17 grand to save a cat in a
society that's literally workingon trying to kill off old and

(49:47):
sick people?

Speaker 3 (49:50):
The cat meat helps you see in the dark.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Is that why the Nope Nope Can't say it, can't say it?
Is that why the Viet Cong wereso good in the tunnels in the
jungle?

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Caitlin says yeah, I don't have good experience with
parish secretaries.
They're awful typically.
I mean not all the time, buttypically.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I had a really.
Well, it wasn't.
I had a good experience, notnecessarily with a parish
secretary, but I sent an emailto a parish I'd never been to
ever last week and got a callfrom the priest today and had an
hour long conversation with thepriest.
So that was.
That was a surprise, Cause alot of times you email a parish

(50:32):
you don't hear back ever, letalone having a priest call you
for an hour.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Um so uh.
I told my wife I cause we havetwo cats, I'm allergic to both
of them.
I told because I played thatclip for my wife and I just
wanted to see her reaction.
And she's like that's crazy.
I go, I'm just letting you knowright now we have two cats.
If one of them gets sick, ifit's over $250, I'm shooting the

(51:00):
cat, or I would let it go inthe south bronx and just let it
enjoy its last few months oflife in the wild, and it would
be a stray like I would just.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
it would just disappear is are your cats
spayed or neutered?

Speaker 4 (51:14):
yeah, okay, I was gonna say if they're not spayed
or neutered.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Don't, don't just let you have to do that, even if
they're their house.
Cats like my cat, my cats neverleave the house, yeah, but if
you don't, you have no idea howdisgusting it is that's what I
thought too, like the wild youthink the bronx isn't a jungle.
I promise you the south bronx isa jungle.

(51:38):
My friend, the uh the the thingif you don't spay and like I
have a male cat and a female cat.
We got the female first andthey're disgusting when they're
in heat, like they're gross,they're moaning and oh it's
disgusting.
But we got the boy after thatand I'm pretty sure the boy

(52:03):
assaulted the girl before webefore we neutered him.
He, uh, he didn't um attainconsent no, and the, the, the
female cat, is terrified of himtill this day.
Yeah, because I'm pretty sure,like when he was coming of age,
he assaulted her and the twocats hate each other.

(52:26):
Like nicole was hoping, the twocats would like be besties.
They're not besties.
The female hates the male andit is like they'll.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
You will be sitting in bed sometimes and you'll just
hear, and they'll just be goingat it female hate hates the
male because, uh, the male catdidn't want to spend $17,000 on
the cat $17,000.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
All right, so let's switch over to the final story
before we head over to locals.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
The cat got me dude.
Yeah, Did you name the catDiddy?
The cat got me dude.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Yes, lucy is traumatized because Oliver,
those are the cats, lucy andoliver.
Um, all right, let's play.
Let's play the last clip,please can it never mind?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
uh, what was the?

Speaker 3 (53:14):
the second one was it was the the, the airplane
Mewtude.
I got Mewtude.
Yeah, the South Bronx is not afun place to be kids, I'm just

(53:38):
telling you, especially nightshifts, night shifts in the.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
South Bronx are always an adventure, so I'm
clicking on that.
One don't tell me this pagedoesn't exist no yeah no way
yeah, see, if you see, if youcan click on it oh no, what is
going on?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
no, paul, when he said oliver, I started doing the
oliver twist.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Please, sir, can I have some?
What is going on?
No, paul, when he said Oliver,I started doing the Oliver twist
.
Please, sir, can I have somemore?
I don't know why I just do itanytime I hear the name Oliver.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Wasn't it my tweet, though.
Go to my Twitter.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yes, because finding things on your Twitter is.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Look up, no, what did I tweet?
Yes, because finding things onyour twitter is, uh, look up um
um.
No, what did I tweet?

Speaker 2 (54:27):
it was was it before or after the dead bunny picture.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I think, oh no, I don't know it.
You have to look up um search.
Should the husband have leftthe wife?

Speaker 2 (54:42):
that was what I tweet how many guys, how many tweets
do you think we're gonna pull upon anthony's twitter?
If I search, should the husbandone, two, three, four, five,
six, seven oh, did you find it?
Did you find it?
I'm I'm looking.

(55:04):
Give me a second.
It doesn't put them in dateorder.
That's not good wait, uh, yeah,I found it, but the link it
just shows the link of the linkis inactive oh no, are you
kidding me?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
I just played it before.
That is so annoying.
That is so annoying, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Todd says my wife and I laughed so hard at ant
thinking a rabbit was a mouse.
I thought that was kind offunny too.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Wait a minute no, why did they delete that tweet?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
it's almost like maybe we should not always rely
on twitter.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I should have screen recorded that one that.
Why would they delete thattweet?
That is actually right beforeour show.
They ruined the second clip ofour show.
All right, I have a jimmy aikenclip we could play.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah, let's do that, let's do that?

Speaker 3 (55:59):
do that on this side?
Yeah, we'll do that on thisside.
And then I I mean, I did have abunch of other articles we
could go over.
Let me see you want to do thegerman bishop bishop, all right,
we'll leave it up to the chat.
Should we do the jimmy aikenclip?
German bishop resigns afterciting inner fatigue of senado
way.
Uh, or traditional catholicism,the new cool for young
americans?
We can.

(56:21):
If we do jimmy aiken, we kindof got to follow it up with the
pentagon planted ufo mythseveryone says aiken everyone
says aiken.
All right, let's play the aikenclip yeah, so um.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
so christian spirit communicating with especially
the spirits of the dead has hada, and there are also later
passages in the prophets thatmock the use of mediums and so

(57:10):
forth, and these texts were kindof picked up and incorporated
into Christian warnings againstcommunication with spirits
without a lot of reflection.
And that's especially truetoday when many people don't

(57:31):
have a sense of the broad scopeof either the biblical tradition
or the Christian tradition.
They just know these arecertain passages and that just
proves that Christians are not—that christians are, not I, so
he's.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
He's talking about, I mean, divination and almost
like witchcraft and likenecromancy and what.
What religion is speaking, Idon't know.
I don't know what religion ishe.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
So his whole thing is aliens and like, what is he
even doing?
I don't get it.
Like it's so crazy.
You had you.
You said something on twitterand the catholic answers twitter
account so so catholic answers.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Tweeted something about how, um, we shouldn't cath
, catholics shouldn't be soconcerned with exorcism and
spiritual warfare and thingslike that.
So I quote tweeted that well,what about Catholic apologists
being preoccupied with aliensand ghosts and divination and

(58:37):
Bigfoot?

Speaker 3 (58:39):
And he said why don't you just at Jimmy Akin, which
is interesting, I almost wantedto say well why doesn't Trent
Horn just at jimmy aiken, whichis I always want to say, well,
why?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
why doesn't trent horn just add everyone he talks
about?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
but just the fact that you said those things he
knew you were talking aboutjimmy aiken, it kind of proved
my point right, which itactually does prove your point,
and it's like what is hispreoccupation with?
These things is bizarre some.
I saw somebody um tweeted aclip of him talking about if it
would be immoral to to, uh, theconjugal act with an alien, like

(59:15):
he was actually answering that,like it's bestiality, that he's
like what?
I don't know what's going on innova sordo apologist world?
I don't get it so like here's.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Here's the the catholic, the catechism of the
catholic church, ccc 21, 16, so2116.
All forms of divination are tobe rejected.
Recourse to satan or demons,conjuring up the dead or other
practices falsely supposed,supposed to unveil the future,

(59:46):
consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation
of omens and lots, phenomena ofclairvoyance and recourse to
mediums all conceal a desire forpower over time, history and,
in the last analysis, otherhuman beings, as well as a wish
to conciliate hidden powers.
They contradict the honor,respect and loving fear that we
owe to god alone.
So, to repeat, all forms ofdivination are to be rejected.

(01:00:08):
Why is it?
Jimmy aiken gets to directlycontradict the ccc and have
everyone be okay with it yet?
But yet any trad says that theslightest thing about something
that was maybe changed in theccc in 2018 and we're called
schismatic for that's actually areally good point, but it's
because all that alien contentgot him a new boat and the jokes

(01:00:29):
on us.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I was trying so hard not to laugh at that while you
were reading because I don'twant to throw, but even Loftin
had that freaking.
He had, like some JewishSatanist on, really yeah, I saw

(01:00:54):
Father Maudsley tweeting aboutit.
And then Todd, I think I sentthe article here.
I thought I did.
I guess not.
Yeah, todd sent me an article.
I thought I sent the articlehere.
I thought I did.
I guess not.
Yeah, todd sent me an article.
I thought I sent it here.
Yeah, like, oh, here it is themaking of a Mississippi shooter.
Pull that making of aMississippi shooter up.

(01:01:15):
Okay, deuce shown on the grassas students made their way into
pearl high school where theylingered in the commons, a large
open area inside the school.
Uh, maybe I should just readwhat what todd actually
highlighted to me.
Hang on, let me see that mightbe better I mean this is from

(01:01:37):
2021 yes, but this is the sameguy that he had on.
So so Justin Sledgefellow Loftondid a video with as an
occultist and was implicated insatanic school shootings in the
90s.
Another childhood friend ofGrant, who wanted to remain
anonymous, said that Grant wasMachiavellian and confessed that

(01:01:58):
he was not surprised when itlater came out that Grant
dabbled in Satanism.
Boyette, who had also been thevictim of bullying, had a former
group with other misfits whocalled themselves the Croft the
name.
Boyette told it.
Like Lofton interviewed thisguy.
If you go to, let me see, maybeMaudsley's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
What was the point of the?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
interview, though I'll tell you right now because
I'll give you guys some context.
Give me a sec, okay.
Okay.
So somebody said Novus, ordoWatch tweeted nothing to see
here.
Catholic apologist MichaelLofton seeks instruction from Dr

(01:02:40):
Justin Sledge on the origins ofYahweh and Yahweh worship.
Sledge is an adherent ofReconstructionist Judaism, whose
YouTube channel, esoterica,produces content relating to
topics such as alchemy, magic,kabbalah, mysticism, hermetic

(01:03:00):
philosophy, theosophy, theoccult and more, using the best
academic scholarship available.
Then Father Maudsley said thisis theology from the toilet.
Apart from all the diabolicalinsults aimed at God, the guest
who is deeply in Kabbalah, sayshe's not convinced that Moses
even existed.

(01:03:20):
Faithless, empathetic catholicsnever, never, platform.
Uh, jews, they subvert yourmind and they cannot teach the
truth until they convert tojesus christ.
So it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
My point is what are these guys?
Was it a debate or like?

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I I don't know what the point of what they're all
doing that's, that's what I'msaying, like I don't understand
so so Jimmy here was talkingabout divination on this show
because he is going to a give adiscussion on it at a so-called
parapsychology conference comingup, parapsychology conference

(01:04:03):
coming up, parapsychology beingwhat you know nonsense basically
.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Yeah what like what I understand, burnout right, like
I think he might have gottencatholic apologetics burnout,
jimmy or lofton or both jimmyaiken, I think jimmy aiken.
What happened with him is hegot apologetics burnout.
So when you do what we're doingI've seen it happen with a lot
of guys you get burnout right.

(01:04:31):
I mean it happens to ussometimes, like most of the time
, I'd rather be talking.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Yeah, there's you know I have other interests that
I would often rather talk about, just because we talk about all
this stuff all the time yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
So you kind of get burnout from talking about like
whatever's.
I mean, how many dude, like Iwatched, I saw, uh, I saw a um I
don't know if it was anascension clip or if it was uh
saint paul center clip of drjohn bergsma once talking about
how scripture convinced him ofCatholic, and it's like how many

(01:05:07):
times can a Catholic converttell their story before they get
tired of telling their story?
You know, like it's gotta gettedious at a certain point,
which is which is why I'm gladour show does diversify topics
and sometimes we could just geton and goof around about my boat
and you know, like it's alsowhy, when we have someone on the

(01:05:30):
show, we try to have them talkabout things that people usually
don't hear them like fatherripperger.
Yeah, we purposefully to ourdetriment, it turns out stayed
away from talking about demonsand exorcism when he was on our
show yeah, because any otherchannel that just that talks to
ripper, talks about exorcist,says this and they get hundreds

(01:05:51):
of thousands of views 300 000views.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
All every single time , and we have every time.
What is childhood?

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
and we got 20 yeah, we just wanted to have a
conversation with father ripperand it's like, yeah, I didn't
want to do what everybody elsedoes with him and just talk to
him about demons and stuff,because it's I don't, I don't
want our show to ever be that.
So it's like we got a moreinteresting conversation out of
him in my opinion, but it's notgoing to get 300 000 views, it's
just not going to.
So.

(01:06:17):
So I can understand Aikengetting the apologetics burnout,
but man, what he chose to godown is kind of bizarre so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Bobby's got a good point here.
Bobby says he's descending intoGnosticism with the research
he's doing for a show.
He's entrenched in aliens andthe weird theological questions
that come up with things likethat, and he's trying to instead
of he's doing it the oppositeway he should be.
Instead of trying to take thesetopics and force them into the

(01:06:53):
catholic framework we have forthe universe, right, he's trying
to force the catholic framework, the captain, he's trying to
force catholicism into thisframework he's built for himself
this weird alien thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
It's like I think he's just always had an interest
in it same same thing with umsteve skojak.
Steve skojak has always had aninterest in aliens.
I don't know what happened, butskojak did the same thing.
So, skojak, when he left theCatholic commentary sphere, he
got into the same thing.

(01:07:28):
He got into aliens and theweird stuff.
And it's like I don't know howto make those things fit.
I don't, and I don't know howto make those.
I, I, I don't know how to makethose things fit.
Like I don't and I don't wantto, like I just kind of ignore

(01:07:48):
it all.
It's just, it's just stupid.
I cannot wait until Jimmy Akinreleases theology of the alien
body.
That's funny, all right.
Well, we're going to wrap thisone up.
We're at an hour and eight.
We're a little bit over.
If you guys want to hear theactual number on my boat, I'll

(01:08:10):
tell you on the other side, butthen I'll also tell you guys
what I'll just.
Oh man, I never thought I wouldtell that story on air, but
which one I'm going to, I nevereven told you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Oh boy yeah, this is gonna be a good one guys.
Yeah, go, yeah, this is some ofthe stories we've told on
locals, and by we I mean you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
I'm still I think I might have told you when we were
in steubenville a little bit ofit, but I never, and it has has
to do with St Joseph's savingme in a way, like like beyond
anything I ever could haveimagined, like about how you
were gambling when one of yourchildren was born.
Oh.

(01:08:55):
I can tell that story though.
He wasn't.
No, it was his due date.
I mean he wasn't born while Iwas there, it was was his due
date.
I mean he wasn't born while Iwas there, it was just his due
date.
Uh, all right, yes, we'redefinitely hurting for locals,
buddy.
All right, come on over tolocals, guys, we'll, we'll get,
we'll get into some stuff overthere okay, give me a second.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Uh, I'll post the actual link in the chat right
now.
Give me a second, guys, andthen I'll cut, and then I'll cut
the stream here.
Okay, so I'm pinning the linkin the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
And I want to play that Dave Bortnoy song I haven't
heard it Is there swearing.
It's got like one or two swearsin it, but it is so catchy, oh
no, it's better than Kanye'slatest latest in my opinion,
okay uh, I'm gonna cut facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Oh, I have to.
I have to bring up locals.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
We're cutting twitter let me get I gotta pull up
locals.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
We're cutting Rumble and cutting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
YouTube.
All right, let me get intolocals here, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Before you start any crazy stories, give me a warning
so I can make it private.
Only on locals, locals.
I like to give everyone aminute to come over.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
If they haven't joined yet before I, okay, so
private.
Um, we can play that songbefore I get into my personal
stories.
Um, let me join the stream here.
All right, guys, I need to knowin the chat are you guys okay
with a little bit of profanity,like a little bit?
It might be.
It might be a curse or two inthe song, but holy cow, is it

(01:10:51):
catchy okay, so one anyone withkids watching, just have them
leave the room until the song'sover.
Yeah, it's not safe for workthis song.
So if you guys have kids, Iwant to believe Margo says no.
But we don't care what Margosays.
It's not like it's full ofcurses, it's just English is

(01:11:24):
profanityity.
Margo's scared.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
As long as no he's okay with it, as long as it's
tim gordon saying the profanityI don't think there's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Uh, I don't think.
I don't think the lord's nameis taken in maine.
I don't think so I would havenoticed that.
But yeah, okay, we're ready forit.
Yeah, you can skip, like,because dave portnoy curses
right at the beginning.
So if you skip ahead, it's daveportnoy losing his mind because
you can't.
I, you know what you got toplay the beginning.

(01:11:53):
Just play it.
If you guys don't like it, justtune out for a second.
We're giving you plenty ofwarning.
If you don't like it, just tuneout.
Don't tell me to shut up.
Don Shut the fuck up, you both.
Oh man Wow, Wow, wow.
And all right, a little skipahead, got a little more, a
little more, a little more, alittle more there's only a

(01:12:14):
couple of them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
No, it's just a point in the beginning this song, the
song.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
This song might have one or two.
You're literally saying peopleshould be allowed to make jewish
jokes.
So dave portnoy has been knownto make the most heinous jokes
about rape and horrible things.
So he flipped out that somebodythought it was appropriate to
make Jewish jokes and he saidhow many Jewish people need to

(01:12:40):
die before you realize you can'tmake Jewish jokes?

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
A few more.
Apparently, you can talk aboutIndians with their babies
laughing at whatever the fuckthat you wanna.
Only one thing is sacred,that's Davey.
Don't talk about Jews now.
Don't talk about Jews.
Hey, don't talk about Jews.
Don't talk about Jews.
Don't talk about Dave.
You can laugh about blacks, youcan laugh about gays, you can
laugh about immigrants in themcages.
Talk about anything on thisearth, but if it's about Jews,
then you might as well save it,bitch.
Don't talk about jews.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Hey, don't talk about jews, don't talk about jews,
don't talk about jews, don'ttalk about david, you guys.
Okay, that's funny 77 jokes, 77times seven.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Thomas Beckett says there was no more than 170,000
jokes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
No, definitely not, Definitely.
Six million jokes is the limit,six million jokes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Okay, I'm going to.
Let's hope Deacon Jim isn'tlistening All right, let's get
off this topic.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Hold on.
Let's switch it to supporters,only supporters, only supporters
only.
We got a minute until it takeseffect, but um, yeah, the boat.
Let's see our guesses hold onhow much, um how much did you
pay for the boat originally?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Originally.
So if I had bought it brand new, the boat brand new would have
been $80,000.
I did not buy it brand new, Ibought it used and I got it for
$40,000.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Okay, what's the problem?
The motor's blown $15,000.
Okay, what's the problem?
The motor's blown 15,000.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Let's see what everybody else thinks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Their guesses are crazy.
So it's just 14,000.
Check those missed the case.
This is 25K, we got 24K.
We got 10K, 20k, 60k.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Price is right, rules what?
What is it if you go over?
You lose yeah, closest, withoutgoing over okay, 20k, so now
hear me out, hear me out oh noif I don't fix it, the boat is

(01:15:15):
worthless.
Worthless, yep the boat brandworth 40, the boat brand new,
like I bought it used and it hadhundreds of hours on.
I am putting a.
I'm not putting a rebuilt motor, but brand new motor.
The boat will have a brand newmotor.
My boat itself is inspectacular condition.

(01:15:36):
I've taken very much well careof it.
If I put the 20 and the boat'sback up to worth around 40, 45.
I either lose everything or Iput 20 in, maybe use it for a
season or two it's got afive-year warranty on the motor
and try to sell it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
I haven't made the decision yet, it's just I'll
tell you one thing that stupidcat wouldn't be worth 40k after
putting 17 in it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
That's my point, but also I need a boat.
Like I, I have to have a boat.
I mean, I don't have to, but Ineed a boat.
Here's the thing.
I almost was gonna say yeahneed uh-huh, no, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
No, I don't have to, but I need a boat.
Here's the thing I almost wasgoing to say yeah, need Uh-huh.
No, you don't.
No, I don't need it.
Actually, you're like, for yoursituation living on a long
Island and the sort ofinstability we have in this
country right now, I kind ofneed a boat.
You kind of need a boat, dudethe thing is it's your way off
that Island.
If Dude the thing is, it's yourway off that island.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
If stuff goes downhill, it's more than that,
it's the family memories I'vehad with the boat.
Like you, could not put a pricetag on it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
And it's just one of those things where it's just 40
plus 20 is 60,000.
That's a pretty significantprice tag.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Yeah, the boat's paid off Like it's paid off.
I don't know anything on it,but it's either worthless or I
put 20k in, use it for a year ortwo and then I could sell it
for more than like I'm not.
I won't lose the 20 if I sellthe boat in a year or two, but
if I do just well, it'sworthless.
Then I have to go buy a newboat.

(01:17:12):
I'd have to go spend 40 or 50years.
I know I don't have to, I know Idon't have to, but if I wanted
to like, it would like to.
You can't get a decent boat for20, 20 grand, right like you
can't well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
So I'm kind of in that position where it's not the
kind of boat you want, no, no,and the and the thing is my
boat's kind of perfect for whatI like to do.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
So look, I haven't made the decision yet.
It's just a big, big sum ofmoney and it's like oh, that's a
lot of flipping memories.
Yeah, it's a lot.
So the story I'll tell is, um,the one I haven't heard.
Well, yeah, so 2020, when 2020came around, so 2019, I made

(01:18:02):
more money than I had ever made.
Yep, 2020 came around and Ilost like a third of my income
in 2020 and I fell behind on mymortgage in 2020 because, like
you, you're, when you're makingmoney like that, like you, just
you you think the trajectory isgoing to remain the same, and I

(01:18:24):
fell behind on my mortgage and,like I, took a deferment on it.
I can't believe I'm tellingthis story I've heard.
I've heard, like at least up tothis point, some of it yeah but
I fell behind on my mortgageseverely, um so, but but by 2021
we started this channel, workstarted picking back up and I

(01:18:48):
started getting myself backtogether and not just back
together, but doing better thanI than I was like, and saving
every dollar.
But the mortgage companywouldn't like I had fallen too
far behind.
The mortgage company would nottake the money.
Really, they were like, yeah,they wouldn't allow me to put it
on the back of my loan.
Nothing, and I'm like me andnicole were in limbo on this

(01:19:12):
house for three or four yearswhere I was saving every dollar
Like I had the money to, butlike I would have had to have
all the money I was behind in2020.
Like I it's not like I fellbehind five years, like I fallen
behind a year and then thingsgot fixed and I was saving my

(01:19:32):
like.
Dude, I was in a position where,like, they put my house in
foreclosure and I'm like I, like, what do I?
But I was in that bad of shapeand we never I never asked
anybody for anything.
I literally just startedpraying Novena's to St Joseph
and everything.
Like they wound up like likeswitching my mortgage to another

(01:19:56):
service lender or whatever, andthey just accepted my like,
they took like they, theyallowed me to put that money at
the back of the loan and all themoney I had saved.
Like I didn't have to putnearly as much as I thought I
was going to have to down, likeit just like I was going to have

(01:20:16):
to down.
I was so dependent on St JosephI really thought we were going
to.
There was a time where me andNicole considered should we just
sell the house and take ourequity and move to Pennsylvania?
There were so many thingshappening and St Joseph.
I literally attribute my savingmy house to St Joseph.
It was just such a stressfultime, like those years in limbo

(01:20:38):
where I didn't know what washappening with the house.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
But the point was basically that, as bad as it was
, I never Is Giuseppe Italianfor Joseph Giuseppe.
Yeah, wow, I did not know that.
Yeah, Giuseppe, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Italians have the stupidest language in the world
yeah, just that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Of course you italians have the stupidest
language in the world, um, butit just um.
It was just the, the wholepoint.
I'm not like trying to whatever.
I'm, I'm just saying like roband I have both had like major
financial things happen andnever come to you guys and said,
can we have a handout?
Like it's just not something Iwould.
I would never do that unlesssomeone was dying, someone was
sick or something.
You know like that's the notsomething I would.
I would never do that unlesssomeone was dying, someone was
sick or something.
You know like that's the onlytime I think I would ever like

(01:21:20):
do that.
Like even this thing with theboats, like it sucks, but like
you know, we'll figure it out,you know like, but what's crazy
is I'm I don't, I'm not gonnasuck it into my financial
situation.
It's just I, I could I have themoney to pay for the boat if I
needed to.
It's just that's a big freakingnut to crack.

(01:21:42):
It's crazy big.
Um, yeah, yeah, I still wouldnever ask you.
I would never ask you guys formoney to fix my boat.
Like, just like rob when, whenhis car went and like everyone
was like, oh, we'll help youwith the guy.
It's like no, we're S, we'resaving that, we're saving that
Like I, rob and I made a deal.

(01:22:03):
It's like if something everhappens to Rob.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
I am raising a million dollars for literally
the.
I will make sure hope never hasto worry, as long as the thing
that happens to me is me dyingand she gets life insurance,
she'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
I get it.
It doesn't matter you want herto have a boat.
You know, darn it.
I would never.
I would never, um, I wouldnever not do everything I could
to make sure hope was okay.
Like that's just.
I just would do everything Icould to make sure hope was okay
.
Like that's just.
I just would do everything Icould to help help hope.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Let's crowdfund a 90 foot boat.
How about let's crowdfundwhatever Nicole needs to fix up
the house?

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
That's where the arguments come in, because yeah,
I bet she wants a new walkway,she wants a new the.
She wants to do that and I'mlike Nope, nope, nope, we don't
need first of the things thatshe wants that like I could do
myself.
It's just about like gettingthe time to do it and and I'm
not going to pay some contractorto come in and overcharge me

(01:23:11):
like crazy, cause long Islandlike to come in and overcharge
me like crazy because, longisland like I got a price on the
walkway and it was 19 grand for, like, the walkway and the
driveway, something I neededdone at the.
I needed an apron.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
You're like what are you?
A flipping italian pavementwork?
I would do the paving.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
I could do the paving portion but I didn't want to do
.
I wanted to have, like a guycome in and do the brick work
for the, for the, the walkwayand the apron of the driveway,
and the guy told me 19 grand.
I was like, yeah, I'll see youlater.
That's not happening.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
It's just not like I don't when nicole brings it up,
do you ask her well, why haven'tyou started a podcast on locals
yet?

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
exactly like you better start taking pictures,
honey.
I don't know what to tell you.
We're not getting that done.
No, it's just uh.
Money sucks, dude, it justsucks yeah, we have.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Um, we uh me, and hope came to a compromise on uh
on our guns.
You're allowed to buy yes,anytime I get a new gun, she
gets to spend uh anapproximately equal amount of
money on um aquariums and fishtanks oh my gosh, you gotta

(01:24:21):
figure double.
Yeah, whatever you want to buy,you gotta figure the price is
double, or figure out a good wayto make her believe that what I
bought was worth half of whatit was it is tricky everyone,
every someone, uh, someoneremembers the man on the street.
Uh, bitch.

(01:24:41):
Someone says everyone shouldboycott until we get the man on
the street content.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
I don't blame you guys for that, but I did.
It's not like I didn't buy thestock, I did buy the equipment,
it's just completely unused.
I just haven't done it yet,anthony opened an only fan
account with just pics of yourboat no, but what I saw the call
was, I said, look, we're gonnafix the boat, and then I think
I'm gonna start doing campingvideos I've, I've, I've really

(01:25:09):
tried with my kids.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Right, like to take, take videos of them camping, of
us going on hikes and eatingstupid mres and tricky those.
Uh, a four and a six-year-oldboy running around the woods
yelling at each other, beatingeach other with sticks, crying
it's like I'm gonna get 10seconds of arable yeah, out of
this.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
so the thing, okay, so the thing about my boat
specifically is it's not a boatyou should sleep on, it's a bow
rider, right?
So I'll send you a picture ofmy boat.
I'll send you a picture of whatmy boat actually looks like.
Let me see.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
People have actually sent pictures of you on your
boat in the chat, so thepictures are out there already.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Let me see.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Hold on boat in the chat.
So the pictures are out therealready.
Wait, hold on.
Oh my bobby.
That's genius.
Bobby says at the gun show.
Near him there's a booth.
You give them five dollars andthey'll make a receipt for what
you told your wife you paid forthat gun.
That's lying I really don't dothat that was.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
It's not just that, rob.
Do you know how tempting it wasto like the boat's worthless
without like, because the motoris blown right, but I've been
paying insurance for all theseyears.
Like, the temptation is thereto pull the plug and sink the
boat.
Yeah, but it's insurance fraud.
Yeah, you just can't do it, butit's insurance fraud.

(01:26:37):
Yeah, you just can't do it likeit's.
But it's like, what the hell doyou pay insurance for?
But they don't cover mechanicalstuff.
But like, the temptation is it'slike, dude, you go out on the
boat and you pull the boat, ohshit, the boat sunk.
You know, look at that.
But it's like, no, what kind ofwhat?
Like, how do you face god?
Like, and and to even dosomething like that?
You're.
Then it's oh, oh, I could justgo to commit.
No, that is like presumption ofgod's mercy.

(01:27:00):
Like, no, that is like the mosthorrific mortal sin.
So, no, you can't do it, eventhough you could justify it in
your head and say, well, I'vebeen paying and shit, like,
believe me, this like, I had towrestle with this, like this was
because it was, you know, ohcrap, I launched the boat
without the, without the plugin,and it sunk.
Oh no, you know, like thisthing is that that goes, the

(01:27:20):
temptation goes through yourmind.
Don't think it doesn't like oh,how can I, how can I, how can I
make this look like it was anaccident?
But you just can't do it Likeyou have.
You have to have like we'reeither.
We're either catholic and webelieve this stuff or we don't.
It's just, it's what it comesdown to um.

(01:27:41):
I want to find a picture of, uh,the camping setup.
Let me see if I can find itokay, here we go.
Oh, this is perfect.
Okay, I'm going to send thisone to the.

(01:28:07):
Oh, no, that's going to post it.
Can I just text?

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
it to you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Uh, yeah, actually you can let me just text it to
you, because this actually showshow we have it set up I'm just
hoping, when I share my screen,I won't share our whole text
message conversation oh yeah,that would be bad.
Well, you could send it.
Well, I could send it from hold.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
I think I can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
I might have it in favorites.
Let me see, maybe I could justfavorite it.
Oh, let's see here.
Sorry guys, dead air.

(01:29:12):
This is what you get from locals.
I just want to make sure youguys can see what I'm talking
about here.
I got it, okay.
So this is the setup me andNicole go out with right.
So that's the back seat laiddown into a bed, okay, so do you

(01:29:33):
see how that seat on the leftthere is turned towards me, like
it's facing us, like?
So you see the seat, that's thebed, but then that seat facing
us, I have another cushion thatgoes there so that you can, like
Nicole will lay on the bed part.
I give her the bed and I lay onthe seat and I put a cushion
that matches the same level asthe bed.
So I lay long ways and she layson the seat and I put a cushion

(01:29:58):
that matches the same level asthe bed.
So I lay long ways and she layson the bed and that tent part
comes over the whole thing.
So I bought a camper top for it.
It's got a sink on the right,right there, and then behind the
, behind the seat that's facingus, is a bathroom.
So there's a.
That closet is actually alittle like a little mini camper
bathroom.
So you have a toilet and thenthe front of the boat is open,
right, so it's.
It's not meant to be slept on.
I just bought a camper top sothat we can, and then when we go

(01:30:22):
to watch hill, they, they giveyou an area behind the boat
where you can set up a picnictable and we bring all our
cooking stuff.
Yep, and I've.
I've found that, like thevideos on youtube that do well
are the videos where people areset up and things that shouldn't
be camped in you know like, andI would, and I would go with

(01:30:43):
just me and nicole and set it upand people like seeing you cook
stupid food, and so, whatever,I'm gonna try it.
If it works, I'll do it on mypersonal youtube channel.
We'll see what happens.
If it works.
It works and maybe I can offsetsome of the costs of fixing the
boat.
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
Why would it have a bed?
You're not supposed to sleep?
So that's for laying out in thesun.
So that lifts up into a seat.
So that seat is actually.
Let me see if I can find itwith the seat up yeah, sorry

(01:31:26):
guys, whatever, I don't know, Idon't think you guys care that
much.
Whatever it would be, it wouldbe, um, it would just I.
I think I could make the videosinteresting.
It's just they're not easy tofilm Like I've seen a lot of
people butcher those videos Likepeople want to be told like
every little step of the way andstuff.
It's like it's I don't know,the Outdoor Boys is really the
king of it.
Yeah, were, yeah, I'm so sadthey're gone All right.

(01:32:00):
So let's do literally the daythey stopped.
It's so sick.
I've watched so many of theirvideos at this point.
All right, let's do.
German bishops resign citinginner fatigue, sonata way,
doubts.
Uh, a german bishop resignedfive years before the typical
retirement age sunday, citinginner fatigue and expressing
doubts that the country's sonataway will lead to true renewal.
These Germans are so gross.
Bishop Gregor Maria Honk, 70,stood down as the Bishop of

(01:32:22):
Bavaria, southern Germany.
Isn't that where Benedict wasfrom, bavaria?
Yes, that's where most GermanCatholics are from.
So those are the same bishopsthat probably snubbed him when
he went to Germany.
Honk was one of the four Germandiocesan bishops to criticize
the country's controversialsynodal way, which called for

(01:32:43):
sweeping changes to Catholicteaching and practice, and to
reject plans to establish anational synodal body with
extensive powers over the churchin Germany.
Honk, a Benedictine monk who hasled the diocese with 350,000
Catholics since 06, told theemployees of his decision to
resign had a long history.
I am now in my 19th year asbishop and, in terms of years of

(01:33:05):
service, rank third amongst thediocesan bishops of German's
Bishop Conference, who becamethe nation's youngest bishop
when he was appointed, at theage of 52.
So that means benedictappointed him right 18 years ago
.
18 years ago, uh yeah.
However, I do not want to hidethe fact that after many

(01:33:26):
challenges, scandals andunresolved conflicts, which were
not lacking during my time asbishop, I felt felt an inner
fatigue.
He's got burnout.
Like Jimmy Akin, who took abreak from his duties due to
surgery in 24, noted the crisisduring his tenure included a
dispute over his decision toblock the appointment of a
president at the CatholicUniversity, a financial scandal

(01:33:48):
that caused enormousreputational damage in our
diocese and clerical abuse cases.
He said he had also been deeplyconcerned in recent years about
the question of the spiritualfruitfulness of the church in
our country.
The Catholic church in Germanyis well organized with the
structures and committees andhas many competent.
I'm trying to figure out if hisfatigue is because he wants

(01:34:10):
more changes that aren't comingor that he's stressed because
they're trying to change things.
Social structure continues toprove influential despite the
decline in the number ofbelievers.
It is a significant socialplayer.
Given the upheaval of and thedecline, we are necessarily
developing pastoral programs andconcepts for the future.
But to what extent is oursystem of the church in Germany

(01:34:31):
proving spiritually fruitful sothat it promotes a new beginning
rooted in our system of thechurch in germany, proving
spiritually fruitful, so that itpromotes a new beginning rooted
in the power of the livedgospel and serves the
sanctification of the world.
See, this is like it's germanspeak, so you don't know what he
means I mean to be fair.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
I don't think.
I don't think any of the badbishops care an ounce about
sanctification of the world, soeven just using that phrase
makes me think he might be aBenedict guy.
Well, maybe not, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
The Pope provided inspiration for a spiritual path
that he advised our church inGermany to take, rather than one
that revolves around itself.
According to Francis, renewalmeans living from the freshness
of the gospel.
He spoke of the bite of thegospel which must be felt and
the primacy of evangelization.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Oh, why do these people speak this way?

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
It's so annoying, Like you don't know if he's, you
can't even tell by what he'ssaying which begins with
evangelizing oneself so that thenew life and the genuine spirit
inspired by the gospel can beeffective.
Honk suggested that PopeFrancis' letter captured the
true heartbeat of the church.
He's a Francis guy, Never mindhe can't be a good guy.

(01:35:48):
He encountered the priests andlay people of his diocese, being
close to the people as a pastor, talking to them about the
questions of faith and life,preparing young people to
receive the sacraments andoffering spiritual guidance.
This is what I would like toachieve in the remaining and, I
hope, vigorous years of my lifeas Father Gregor in the second
row in a pastoral area outside.

(01:36:09):
So he doesn't want to be bishopanymore.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
I don't think that doesn't work that way.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
He added without prejudice to my Episcopal
ordination, I no longer wish towear the pontificals, the
insignia, nor perform anypontifical functions, unless my
successor occasionally requiressupport in this ministry.
Otherwise, I see my place inthe coming years in the pastoral
ministry as Father Gregor.
He sounds like he's not arevolutionary.
I see my place in the comingyears in the pastoral ministry
as father Gregor he's.
He sounds like he's not arevolutionary.

(01:36:37):
He just wants to take a stepback and be a priest.
I don't know, I don't know, Inever said, you never said yes,
then man, you think about theguys that do say yes to to being
a Bishop Like?

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
does he say what?
On average, a third of thepriests say no was that just on
the?
Francis, though, or was that?
I think I, I, I don't know thespecifics, but I think it's like
a third of the.
The priests in the us asked tobecome bishops say no I would
say no, I would never want thatresponsibility.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Yeah, mrs Casey said well, if popes can retire, I
know I mean a bishop actuallycan retire, well, retire right,
they can retire, but they'restill a bishop.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Like it just says, a priest is always a priest.
A bishop is always a bishopBecause it is the fullness of
holy orders.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
Majorian said he'd say yes, I just wouldn't.
I don't know.
Well, being a bishop in thisday and age would be really like
.
I feel like I don't know.
I don't know if things aregoing to change in the leo, but
on the francis, I wouldn't havewanted it, that's for sure.

(01:37:59):
You know, it's like underfrancis.
No way would I have taken thatposition.
Maybe on the leo things aregoing to change.
I don't know what's going tohappen with leo.
Um, and then we'll end with.
Traditional Catholicism is cool.
The incense is rising again,not just in Gothic cathedrals or

(01:38:22):
Latin mass enclaves, but in thehearts of young Americans who,
against every cultural current,are swimming upstream towards
Catholicism.
It's a phenomenon that bafflessecular elites and liberal
Protestants alike.
Upstream towards catholicism.
It's a phenomenon that bafflessecular elites and liberal
protestants alike.
How, in this age ofdeconstruction and digital
nihilism, could the church ofhierarchy, ritual and confession
be considered, of all things,cool?
Yet it is, quietly, steadily,and then suddenly the latin mass

(01:38:45):
is trending, catechisms arebooked, young adults are quoting
aquinas in the same breath ascamas.
Who's camo?
Who's camo?
That's terrible.
Author.
Oh, it's not ironic, it's notaesthetic, it's not cosplay.
It's a revolt againstrootlessness oh, that's your
business team, then it's cosplaybecause we look, because what

(01:39:07):
looks like religious revival isalso cultural rebellion.
That's, I agree with that ahundred percent.
I just think the culture isfeeding people such rot that,
like the ancient faith, doeshold appeal.
Because what looks likereligious revival is also
cultural rebellion.
We were told the future wouldbe limitless, utterly empowering
, powering.

(01:39:27):
We were told we'd be happiestwith fewer rules, fewer roles,
fewer traditions, just vibes.
But the experiment failed.
We're lonely or sicker,spiritually starved In a place
of meaning.
We got algorithms In place ofmeaning.
We got algorithms In place oftranscendence.
We got TikTok therapy andbeneath the saccharine haze of

(01:39:47):
self-care, many young peoplefeel the gnawing presence of
something missing.
I wish the hierarchy wouldrecognize this.
I really hope that Leo does.
Catholicism offers what themodern world cannot Structure,
discipline, mystery, not theNovus Ordo.
That's the same thing with thatwhat-to-wear-to-mass thing I

(01:40:12):
was saying earlier, the debateabout oh, don't wear shorts and
sandals to the Novus Ordo.
It's like the couple of timesI've gone to the Novus Ordo in
the past couple of years.
Like we dress down, I don'twear what I would wear to a
Latin mass at a Novus Ordo justbecause the liturgy inherently

(01:40:33):
is less mysterious andtranscendent.
It's just you, you stand out.
When you go.
If you're wearing really niceclothes to a nova sordo, people
kind of look at you like what?
and then, honestly, if you wearkhaki, khakis and a polo, you
stand out and then you're on topof that kneeling for communion,
kneeling and receiving on thetongue like people think it's

(01:40:55):
crazy because they'll accuse youof Of like spectacle when you
do that right, like it's.
It's this weird inversion where, what?
When I have gone to a NovusOrdo, it's like it takes
everything in me to just go andkneel and receive communion
Cause you don't want everybodylooking at you.
So it's kind of like you got toswallow your pride and go do it

(01:41:18):
and they'll accuse you of beingprideful.
It's the weirdest thing.
They'll say you're doing it outof pride, when really you're
like oh, I don't like, I have nodesire to be the spectacle
right now.
I just want to go and receiveChrist respectfully and
reverently.
So you go and you kneel and youreceive on the tongue and
people look at you like you'rebeing prideful.

(01:41:40):
I hate that about that.
To be Catholic is to live insidea story a 2000 year old, blood
soaked, gold threaded worldshaping story.
It has martyrs and miracles,saints and scoundrels,
architecture that makes you weep.
A God who became man.
A carpenter who suffered foryour sins.
A virgin mother crowned inheaven.
Try fitting that into a 15second Instagram reel.

(01:42:03):
This is a pretty good article.
For young Americans raised onMarvel movies and
deconstructionist memes, thesheer audacity of Catholicism is
intoxicating.
It doesn't hedge its bets ordilute its claims.
It says this is the body, thisis the blood, this is the truth
it currently does quite actuallydilute its claims all the time,
but it's it's sad that, likethey, they have everything they

(01:42:30):
need to convert the world andthey downplay it all, like the
very things that would spark afire in young men's heart.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
They downplay because this article is kind of
frustrating because, like likeyou say quite often, it's
arguing for a church thatdoesn't actually exist currently
.
Right, and that's one thingthat frustrates me about young

(01:42:59):
converts and pope-splainers thechurch you guys argue for
currently does not exist, andI'm not saying we, you know, I
understand they're trying tomake it exist, but let's be
honest with ourselves and let'sbe honest with everyone else.
It doesn't currently exist.
The church does dilute itself.
The church currently does nothave mystery.

(01:43:20):
It does not have, you know, anyarchitecture made in the last
hundred years blows like.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
Let's not kid ourselves, let's be honest here
so I do like this you don't walkinto a traditional catholic
mass because they're talkingabout the traditional faith here
.
So you don't walk into atraditional Catholic mass
because they're talking aboutthe traditional faith here.
So you don't walk into atraditional Catholic mass and
feel like you've stumbled into aself-help seminar with hymns.
You feel the weight of twomillennia settle into your
shoulders.
There are no mood boards, nofog machines, no pastors in

(01:43:49):
skinny jeans offering life hacks.
There is only the priest, thealtar, the sacrifice and the
silence, a silence that, formany, is more honest than any
sermon man.
Me and Nicole were talkingabout one of the hymns they used
to sing at St Paso Nova Sordo,near me, and it was Ale ale,

(01:44:11):
aleluia, alleluia.
And it's the stupid, glory,glory, alleluia.
Like they sing the Our Father atthat parish.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
It's so bad, it's so bad, it's just so bad.
The uh the local parishes heredo the uh.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
My little pony gloria that's stupid, will stick in my
head for days on end, even whenI haven't gone there.
It's so bad.
That's why I used to wake mykids up on sunday morning
singing the aspergers.
May like?
I wanted them to have thatstuck in their head so they'd be

(01:45:02):
sleeping and I'd just bewalking around the house singing
the aspergers.
Yeah, the battle hem of therepublic.
That's it.
Um, which is mormon, isn't it?
Probably?
It's definitely protestant,that's for sure.
And then there's the internet.
Ironically, the same technologythat helps secular secularism
colonize the culture is nowhelping catholicism fight back.

(01:45:23):
The same platforms that oncereduced truth to trend are now
hosting long-form debates aboutthe council of nicaea and marion
dogma.
Youtube debates, sub stackessays, the tradcast.
Social media accounts areturning old school apologetics
into viral content.
The memes are sharp, thearguments are airtight.
What began as curiosity, whateven is the latin mass, has

(01:45:44):
become conviction, conversionand catechesis.
These aren't just contentcreators, they're apostles with
wi-fi.
Whoa, I'm an apostle in life,my guys, no, no.
As soon as I saw that I'm likeoh no, or not with the ring
lights, but with church fathersand footnotes and their winning
souls in foretell.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Okay that came out of AI.
That is exactly what AI soundslike.
That is AI.
A human did not write that part.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Their message is clear the church is an
anti-intellectual, inventedintellectual tradition, a
canonized reason long beforemodernity tried to sterilize it.
And for a generation raised tobelieve in science but yearning
for metaphysics, catholicismfeels like a missing link mind
and soul in harmony.
But don't mistake this for merephilosophical exercise.
Something deeper is stirring Ina culture obsessed with

(01:46:33):
identity.
Catholicism offers identitythrough surrender, not the
curated, performative kind, buta cruciform kind, dying to self
to live in Christ.
It's everything the modern selfrecoils at, which is precisely
why it's so powerful.
It's so powerful, yeah, I think, um, I think I think it's a

(01:47:02):
good thing.
Like a lot of the younger guysdo it like look the, the guys
that watch our show are prettyharsh on franco because it's
pretty bad.
But like I do like whatchristian wagner is doing, I
really do like I think, like hedid a nine hour documentary on
why history proves catholicism,it's like I mean, I'm not going

(01:47:22):
to sit through nine hours, butthat he's putting things like
that together and he's, you know, he's definitely not doing what
we're doing, what we're makingcatholicism cool.
He's kind of bringing theintellectual side and I think
that it's good that, that thatthis whole arena is happening.
You know it's not.
It's.
It's very different from thegeneration before us.

(01:47:45):
The scott hans, the jeff cavins, those guys they were
presenting something a littlebit different than we are, where
I think we're a little bit moreum, realistic about like the
realities of living the faithout.
Then those guys are like I Ithose guys were great at
teaching the um, like the, thetheology and the biblical

(01:48:11):
tradition and things like that.
But I think what you and I do,I think, is just show more of
what that stuff looks like whenlived in practice as a father
and just a guy going to workevery day, because we're not
PhDs and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
Wagner ironically gaslighting people into thinking
the nova sordo's base is gay.
I don't think he.
I like he goes.
He goes to a um, ordinary, anordinary, you know.
So it's like, yeah, I thinkhe's just trying to make sure

(01:48:56):
that people don't think theNovus Ordo is invalid.
I know, wagner, I know he wouldthink it's just as cringe some
of the things that you see atyour typical parish Like, it's,
it's just, you know it is.
He admitted it on our show.
I don't remember.
Sam shaboon reminds me mymother is probably a whore.

(01:49:21):
Yeah, I don't know whathappened with them.
They, uh, they had a fallingout.
Uh, yeah, I know, I don't know,rob, you've gotten to a point
where you won't.
You won't go to the Nova Sordoanymore, right?
Um, like it, extenuatingcircumstances maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Yeah, I would go to a wedding or a funeral.
You know, baptism, somethinglike that.
I don't know the Sordo myself,but, um, yeah, uh, I'm.
My kids will not go to the NovaSordo.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
I went to a society chapel sunday.
Um, I, I just can't go to thenova sordo and I wasn't.
I wasn't able to drive the likeit's I have.
I have a byzantine divineliturgy 10 minutes from me I've
never gone to.
I have the sspx is 10 minutesfrom me.
I will go there occasionally.
And then I have my realparishes that I go to.
One is 25 minutes away but theyonly have it every other Sunday

(01:50:19):
and then the far one is like anhour away.
It's just a lot.
Sometimes.
You just said we drove twohours each way to go to.
Sometimes you're just like oof,I wish there was something
closer and the society is 10minutes away and I'm going to go
.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
I wish there was something closer and the
society's 10 minutes away andI'm going to go.
Yeah, unfortunately, thesociety is four hours away from
me.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
Yeah, we have a diocesan TLM two hours away.
It's so annoying how far theymake us travel for good liturgy.
Most often I'm at a diocesanTLM.
There are two diocesan TLMs.
I bounce between and then Iused to go to the Novus Ordo If

(01:51:06):
I couldn't make those.
I'll no longer do that.
So now if I can't make it toone of those, I'll go to the
society, and the society parishis beautiful, the people there
are awesome.
It's just a Catholic parish,it's a chapel, but the homily
this week was Father Salzenpraying for Pope Leo, not Pope

(01:51:27):
Francis, pope Leo, just prayingfor Pope Leo and praying that he
has the strength to do whatneeds to be done.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
And you know it's funny, the most schismatic
sermons I've ever heard were atconservative Novus Ordo parishes
.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
The worst liturgies I've seen are at conservative
Novus Ordo parishes.
Because it's bizarre, it'sboomer conservatism, so like
you'll get a good homily but theliturgy is just horrific, like
girl altar, boys and singing theour father and things like
they're just atrocious becausethey're just wrapped up in that

(01:52:07):
mindset but they're, thehomilies are good.
It's just, you know, likethat's the only nova sordo
parish I've ever heard homilieson pornography and abortion.
But the abortion thing is justrepublican talking point.
So it's like, you know, it'sjust, it's just a, it's just a

(01:52:27):
republican, boomer parish, youknow yeah, you probably wouldn't
hear a sermon there against ivf, for instance.
No, or even even birth control.
But you'll, you'll, you'll hearit against.
But I did hear, like I said, Idid hear one about pornography,
which you rarely hear frompriests even trad parishes like
that it's.
It's one thing that I reallythink priests need to talk more

(01:52:49):
about.
It's an uncomfortableconversation, especially when
there's young kids there, butthere's got to be ways for them
to have those conversations,because I think it's the one
thing plaguing our society.
That it's.
It's like young men need helpwith that bad.
Yeah, it's like a bishop baronparish, um, uh, our nova sordo

(01:53:13):
is pretty decent, except thefemale electors and
extraordinary ministers.
Yeah, that that's.
That's a hard thing to dealwith, man.
Like then you're like finding aline where the priest is
because you don't want to go onthe line where the extraordinary
minister is.
It's like it's just tedious.
Uh, all right, man, this is afun one.
I had fun on youtube especially.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
I'm sorry I bummed you guys out with my uh,
depressing money stories overhere yeah, I should have saved
the uh, the fun, uh vomit andpoop stories for here instead of
on youtube um no, I think thatwas good that you opened up over
there.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
I'm getting you to share more.
I like that.
It's good um so thursday,thursday, we have ryan katsu
rivera on.
Oh no, wait, no, wait, no, Ithink actually wait.
No, we actually will tell youguys, we'll tell you guys.
We're not telling the youtubeside ryan katsu rivera you are

(01:54:10):
an idiot.
Wow, that's right yeah, Itotally forgot, but I'll tell
you guys r Ryan Katz who Riverais coming on.
Only you guys can know this,don't blow the bit when we do it
on YouTube.
He's coming on as voice ofreason on Thursday.
So Thursday, voice of voice ofreasons coming on Thursday.
But it's really going to beRyan Katz who Rivera.
And then I'm trying to getJoshua Charles booked again.

(01:54:34):
I've been talking to him.
He's going to come back on.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
We have salmon next Thursday right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
Eric salmon's next Thursday.
I want to talk to him about thenew Pope.
We'll see how that's going.
Plus, he's got a new book out.
So yeah, ryan Katzer Rivera wasalso Jimmy Akin, for anyone
that doesn't know.
Yep, nick, we will get back on.
Probably after that We'll getNick back on.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
We're still working on getting Strickland on.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
Strickland.
Yeah, we got some good stuffcoming up.
We'll, we'll, we'll get back toit.
We.
I have my vacation.
Rob had his poop poop days off.
We'll get back to it.
Father Nick's my vacation.
Rob had his poop poop days off.
We'll get back to father nickstoo.
I've been talking to him too.
He's, he's, uh, he's not onboard with leo, just giving you
guys a heads up, so we'll dofather next.

(01:55:27):
But I'm just telling you youleo fans, father nicks ain't
there, uh, I don't, I mean sofar.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Yet I haven't heard leo say anything that like kp2
wouldn't have said.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
You know, I haven't heard him say much of anything.
Right, it's kind of it's.
I think it's gonna be a boringpapacy, which is better than the
last one, like the last one waslike every week we got
something else.
I just think it's gonna be apretty tame papacy unless world
events change that.
Like world events couldabsolutely change that and he

(01:56:05):
has no choice but to step in.
But so far it seems like he'sjust playing it safe and he
wants to, you know.
But let's hope some good thingscome from us.
Can, uh, ryan do a mafrataccent?
I'm sure?
Um, yeah, father isaac'sdefinitely not a fan of leo.
There's a lot of guys.
So, all right, we're gonna wrapthis one up.
We will see you guys onthursday.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
Don't blow our spot in the chat yeah, we can trust
the audience, thank you.
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