Religious Hippie Opens Up About Attacks on Her Husband

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 1 (00:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
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this video was my idea tonight completely and
entirely I have the text andreceipts to to prove it this was
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the uh, the.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
The strange thing is that, um, I actually all right,
so I was going to comment.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Maybe this video is is going to bring people back I
told you we found the nichemarket for anyone who was here
on tuesday.
Do you remember anthony sayingstuff about how he doesn't want
to do things for, for, forclicks, for views, for subs?
There was a great 48 hourresolution this morning I get a

(01:52):
text 3, 30 am.
He goes.
I think I know how we can getout of the rut and get views
guys e-girls.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
All right, I have, I have reasons for my madness.
Okay, it's yes, all right, Iget it.
All right, I'm not even okay.
So the uh the thing is, I Ididn't necessarily want to do
this video, but, um, but no, abunch of stuff like kind of came

(02:23):
to my mind over it and, uh,we're not attacking amber.
Um, we are going to play theclip that somebody posted.
Uh, but I have some, just some.
I'm going.
There are criticisms of her,but there's also, uh, ways that
like just just are what we'redoing online.

(02:44):
It's I have a lot of thoughtson what we're doing online and
how much we should be sharingonline and things like that.
So, um, all right, before weget going, everybody wait is
this?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
is this after you?
You posted an address ontwitter asking someone to come
fight you again, again, did you?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
do that, anthony again, all right listen, this is
.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
This is a difference in calling somebody's bluff and
knowing they're not.
But I I went to bed thinkingseven people saw that and I woke
up and there was 25 000impressions on it and I'm like
whoa, delete this, delete this.
Holy yeah that that tweet blewup overnight like insanely I had
.
I woke up this morning I waslike what happened here?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
but it's like you know you back in school you'd be
like in the parking lot 3, 30,there's gonna be a fight.
Everyone go watch.
That's what you did.
That's what happened online.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
The thing is, this wasn't even a bait post.
It was just like I saw somebodysmash a statue of our lady.
And no way, it's definitely aguy.
No chick.
Is that funny?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
there's no chance but if it is a chick nick, you lock
that down yeah, ghost of auntjemima, what?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
so, um, oh, that pose .
I just I saw somebody break astatue of Our Lady and I was
being honest.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
If somebody did that in front of me, I'd probably
throw a punch.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
So true, if I smashed a statue of Our Lady in front
of me, I would feel okaypunching that person at that
point.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I would not confess it.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I might.
I might talk to the priestabout it, because it's just a
matter of what the intent of theperson is to smash it.
It's so somebody smashes astatue of our lady in front of
me Like that's, that's, I don'tknow.
To me that's a call for gettingpunched in the face.
So, so that's all I wrote, andI was just being honest.
Like I do a lot of bait posts,that wasn't one of them.

(04:42):
I was just being funny.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
You never know what's going to take off and you put
an hour of thought into and belike, yeah, this one's going to,
this one's going to go big.
A hundred people see it.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, it goes nowhere .
I think the algorithm knowswhen you're just firing
something off versus, becausethe things that go viral are so
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think it was just baseball hatsin general got like three
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So the conversation tonight isuh, it's gonna be, it's gonna be
an interesting I think.
I'm interested to see Rob'sthoughts and Nick's thoughts on
what I've been thinking about it.
So I guess we could start byplaying the Amber clip and we'll
and we'll take it from there.
So, um, yeah, let's, let's justplay her clip and we'll and

(06:56):
we'll take it from there.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Okay, let me get it ready here.
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
About this on my story the other day.
Hold on, let me make thatlouder.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Okay, let me get it ready here.
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Hold on, Let me make that louder About this on my
story the other day, becausepeople are wondering why Max
isn't in any of my videos, why Ideleted the videos of Max and
everything.
Because some people decided tomake our lives hell for a while
and target my husband and frommy ministry because they didn't
like what I was doing and theydidn't want me to continue the
ministry.
So they decided to target myhusband.
So because of that, I had toprotect my marriage.

(07:34):
Of course, my vocation comesfirst.
I love you guys, I love myministry, but my vocation does
come first.
And the first thing I was likenope, we're not doing this.
So instead of getting them anynew content to use against my
husband or to use for whateverthey're using it for, I decided
to just remove any facialpictures of my husband off of my

(07:54):
social media.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
So I mean, it's a simple clip you know.
My only real problem with whatshe says there is the ministry
part yeah, yeah, you're notordained, you can't have
ministry, I'm sorry, yeah Ithink she's got some, some, some
old baggage hung up there.
You know, like I I've heardother catholics say things like
that like I would never callwhat we do a ministry no, I'm

(08:20):
not ordained.
Yeah, it's like only the churchproperly has that ability.
Um, but that's not my onlycriticism there.
Um, so the thing is, uh, I Iunderstand uh what people take
issue with with amber, um andand a larger conversation.

(08:43):
I think women don't understandwhat men see when they're
posting selfies.
So selfies in general are avery odd thing.
Like I'll tell the ladies rightoff the bat, like if you're
single and you are looking for aguy and you meet a guy and he
posts selfies, like I would saythat guy loves himself too much
to love you.
Like it's such an odd thing fora man to do.

(09:04):
Men should not post selfies.
But I understand why, why menwhen they see anthony's trolling
on twitter ministry Iunderstand why when men see
women post selfies, they theythink it's narcissism.
But men and women are verydifferent and a lot of those
guys are single and they don'tthey.

(09:26):
They really don't understandthe female brain, where a woman
posting a selfie may notnecessarily be narcissism.
It's more like I'm doing thesefor the, for my lady friends.
You know what I mean and but itdoes come off as narcissism.
It just does.
It's like because she's notposting anything inappropriate,

(09:47):
she's posting posting mass fitsright, like she puts her her
mass outfit on and then sheposts it.
The thing is, if you're doingthat for a small community like
let's say you have a localscommunity, or let's say you have
a private community behind yourshow and you know it's a
friendly audience and everybodyactually you and you know it's a
friendly audience and everybodyactually.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
you know they're paying extra.
She's not posting anythingpornographic, no, nothing like
that.
Whether or not it'sinappropriate is a different
question.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, the thing is like I was saying, if it's for
your private community and for awoman like her, it's going to
be mainly women watching her.
It's like, yeah, you girls canshare pictures of yourselves and
stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Like if I post pictures all the time in our
private telegram for the channeland it's because I'm chatting
with my friends more thananything.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's a private thing, right.
So I actually took down.
Like two weeks ago or a weekago, I changed my profile pic on
Twitter.
I used to have me, I used tohave me and my wife as my
profile pic, and I did that veryintentionally.
It was because I wanted peopleto know I was married and it's,
you know, just to hold myselfaccountable.
It's like if somebody sees mespeaking inappropriately to a

(10:52):
woman like I'm married, that'svery.
I've never, ever said anythingto a woman online that I should
not have said, that I wouldn'tlet my wife read.
So that was the intentionoriginally.
But what happens is when, when,especially doing some of the
trolling I do, you're, you'renow putting your wife's picture
up for thousands and thousandsof strangers and I've had

(11:16):
ridiculous comments made to meabout my wife, you know
especially around halloween timeyou always post halloween pics
and you always start somethingso so look, this isn't.
This isn't something I've alwaysheld.
This is kind of a developmentin my thought on this.
Rob got caught putting achapstick in front of the mirror
and just is that a reference?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
is this true?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
is that, is that's yeah, that's buffalo bill from.
I know I was missing somethingthere.
So the thing with amber is that?
Uh, well, first of all, theguys that are attacking her
husband like I, I'm sorry yougotta.
There's nothing harsher tosomeone than to have their
spouse attack, like what?
Like you're talking, somebodyjust made a comment about my

(12:06):
wife.
Their anonymous account made acomment about my wife and I'm
like I want to basicallythreaten to kill him, yeah yeah,
like I want to go and murderthe person and it's like I get
that she's a public personality,I get that she's putting the
picture of her husband up.
But I don't think any of uswant to be, uh, on judgment day,
accountable for putting stresson someone's marriage.

(12:26):
Like marriage is such a holyand delicate thing that if
anybody is going after herhusband like that, like you guys
gotta think a little bit beforeyou're doing it, like I it's,
we live in this.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh, I'm sorry guys I was just gonna say, especially
because like doing this and likeshe does it full time Like for
us it's still a hobby Thankfullyit's not an expensive hobby
anymore but for her it's fulltime and like doing this is hard
on marriage, it just is.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, this is, this is my, this is how I kind of
feel.
It's like all right, you guyscan take issue with her.
Like I know some of the thingsthey were saying to her husband
man, like calling him a cock andthings like that.
Now, look, the thing is evenfor Amber.
Like, if you see, your postingselfies is causing stress in

(13:19):
your marriage.
It's not just take your husbandoff, like you have to actually
consider what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know you didn't really root out the problem
right.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's like I understand.
It's easy to just say thesepeople are a-holes.
It's easy to do that and notactually do any self-reflection.
But if you're putting stress onyour marriage and all these
anonymous young men are tellingyou they think a certain thing
when you post these pictures,because they come off like
thirst traps, like they come offlike you're just feeding for
attention and you come off likean e girl Now, I'm not saying

(13:51):
that's your intention in it, butit comes off that way.
So if that is the case, youhave to really think about, like
she said in that video, like myvocation comes first.
It's like well, if it reallydoes, does, then you have to
actually consider what you do.
Look, you have 45 000 followerson twitter.
She has how many hundreds ofthousands on tiktok.
She's got a youtube channel.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
It's like you could still not.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Her tiktok was blocked oh, maybe she did lose
it, yeah, um, but regardless,you have.
You have this giant platform,um, you're doing a youtube show.
That's one thing.
It's like you have no choicebut to be on the camera and
stuff.
But the mass fit pics, I thinkthey're very.
They're causing a lot of issuesfor the, for everybody, like I.

(14:35):
I just see everybody take shotsat amber because of her mass
fit things.
You know, and it's it's justclearly an issue.
So she has to consider stoppingdoing that.
It's just too much.
The other thing is just what we, the kind of world we're in now
, it's so easy to forget there'sa human being behind that

(14:59):
avatar, right, and especiallywhen you're anonymous.
When you're anonymous, it'slike you could say the most vile
, freaking thing and thinkthere's no consequence to it.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Now, uh, somebody, somebody we all know because the
trads would absolutelycastigate no, actually I've been
dressing nice for mass oh,black jeans instead of blue
jeans, no, no I wear slacks thatdon't have holes in them.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't wear a suit.
I'm never wearing a suit, but Ido dress nice for mass um.
But uh, in this age ofanonymity, like there's
something to the uh thing, likewhat when jordan peterson talks
about like the narcissisticpeople that are behind anonymous
accounts and just they wantnothing but the pile on Right

(15:45):
it's.
It's really dangerous to notfall into that when you're
anonymous.
I know somebody in our personallives.
He used to be online a publicfigure.
He's not anymore.
He backed off, but he's datingsomebody and the person he's
dating used to be a leftist andthey are now converting to

(16:06):
Catholicism and have right wingviews.
Now that somebody in thatperson's private life found out
about this and doxed her andthen doxed him to his boss.
His anonymous Twitter was thensent to the HR department, so
he's now dealing with too bad.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
His HR department isn't me like ami you're the hr
department yeah, I can't waituntil someone calls my company
to play now.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Makes they get me it makes perfect sense why rob
doesn't put up with anthony's bs.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
It just makes all orange white's no patient he's
so he has to hear bs all thetime the thing is I work a job
where there is no hr department,there is no getting me fired,
like if they actually, if Iactually got fired for something
I said in my personal life ontwitter, if I ever got fired for
something like that, like Icould sue, like I, my union
would back me up and I could sayit's just, there's no, there's

(17:01):
no unless I said something.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
So I was going to say I bet your union has limits.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, I'd have to say something.
So outlandish, you know.
So this person I'm, he's likedude, can you get me a job if
they fire me?
Like he's in a position wherehe may lose his job, you know,
so we're you know, I'm trying tofigure something out for him
right now, but it just, it justgoes like nobody ever knows
who's going to get ahold of yourinformation and put it out

(17:27):
there.
It's like we all have this, um,this weird world we're in now,
man, where everything, whereeverything's so digital and it's
so easy to just put stuff outthere.
But the the vanity angle of it,I, I, I'm.
I mean, we've talked about thisthe last couple of shows, even
for us, like building thechannel and even this show with

(17:49):
the clickbait Like I knew it wasa clickbait thumbnail and title
, but I also knew, like I hadsome serious things to talk
about.
And this wasn't about bashingAmber.
It's more about, like, whatyou're doing when you have
thousands of followers that youdon't know is putting little
bits of your life out there,that they will then, when they,
when you, when they don't agreewith you, will go for those

(18:11):
things that you treasure themost.
Like, look at what happened toum, what's that freaking leftist
?
Um, destiny, destiny, right.
So destiny is out there and heputs it out all over the place
that, oh, we have an openmarriage, now that girl winds up
leaving him for the guy thatthey're doing.
And now Destiny can't goanywhere without them throwing

(18:33):
that in his face.
He's having a seriousconversation with somebody and
it just immediately goes dude,you let somebody sleep with your
wife.
It's like how do you live withthat?
No, I know you don't feel allthat bad, but the point is, the
more more you share, the morethey're going to turn that thing

(18:53):
against you, right?
So amber is sharing pictures ofher husband and then these guys
are coming after.
And now, now her husband alsohas to step up and tell her
clearly what he feelscomfortable with, like he did
marry a social media star.
I mean, yeah, you know.
So I don't know.
What do you guys?
I mean, I've been talking for awhile.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
I haven't let you guys jump in yeah, with amber I
honestly have kind of like I'veonly ever heard like three,
three types of conversationsaround her, the mass pics being
one, her husband and then alsothe thing which I'm more
interested in, which is like thethings that she actually says
when she goes on theseinterviews and the positions

(19:25):
that she tries to push forward.
When it comes to her husbandthing, I do agree with you a
thousand percent Take a drinkeveryone, because you're right.
I look at some of the stuffthat they say about him and it's
honestly like this At the endof the day, y'all what are
Catholics?
Catholics have to be disciplesof the person of Jesus Christ,

(19:49):
and Matthew, chapter 12, isextremely clear that for even
the slightest word that we sayand the slightest action that we
do, we will be judged for.
And so, like when people arejust kind of going around um,
castigating somebody withouteven knowing them, you know they
haven't broken bread with them,they haven't shook their hand,
they haven't had a conversationwith them, that's rash judgment,
right, and that's not cool.
And I think that when you takea step back, we on the right

(20:11):
have purity spirals.
We've talked about this before.
The woke has their purityspirals of who can be the most
woke, but we have kind of thesame too.
It's not that we can't seektruth in right-wing views, but
we have to be careful about howwe treat other individuals when
we're going down our own likepath of discovery right, and

(20:32):
that's that's one thing.
When it comes to discovery yeah,when it comes to our past
discovery, it's like even myself.
It's like you know, I've beenred pilled on some certain
issues recently, but thoseweren't my chat.
We're not getting into thatright now but, but, but you know
what I'm saying.
My, my, uh, you know, interestsweren't really in that area.
When it comes to her mass fitstuff, I agree with you.
I think, oh heck, no, I, I wasgonna.

(20:55):
I'll get to trent horn in asecond.
Um, because he's in my, he's inmy, uh, my point I'm about to
make.
When it comes to her mass fitstuff, I agree with you, anthony
.
I think she just has to becareful.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Um, I, it's, it's sad I mean, she needs to stop doing
it.
Yeah, she does.
She does like what?
Look, I'm not, I'm not.
I'm not trying to come downrashly on her, I'm not trying to
jump out like amber.
You got to stop doing that likeit's.
It's.
It's causing scandal, notbecause men can't control
themselves around it, just you.
You you're not posting this ina group chat with your

(21:25):
girlfriends.
This is going out to thousandsof young men on the internet and
it's causing too muchcontroversy on the internet and
you have to takeresponsibilities for some of the
stuff that you're doing.
Yeah, and it's causing problemsin your marriage is the main
thing.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
I agree with you, and that's what what I my point I
was going to make is that it'ssad that we're in a culture in
which everything is so hypersexualized, to where guys see
immorality where there's not andgirls subconsciously post
things which, on the face of it,aren't, you know, open and out,
as rob said, like pornography,but can be taken that way.

(22:00):
The third thing, then this iswhere I'll end.
My third point is that when itcomes to the stuff that she
generally pushes, you know she,she pushes the TLM, which is a
cool thing, um, but obviously,when it comes to some other
things, I've seen her go on, forinstance, pints with Aquinas
and, uh, she, you know, hedecided to give her like 20
minutes for dating advice andit's basically like let's just

(22:22):
trash every single Gen Z malepossible.
She basically did one of thewhole things of you know, we
want guys that approach us butalso don't approach us.
We want guys that are genuinebut also don't show feelings.
We want guys that show feelingsbut not too much feeling.
You know what I'm saying.
It was just kind of thisridiculous back and forth.

(22:42):
It was TikTok stuff, exactly,and then what I just ripped my
hair out about is it's likeTrent.
He has Trent Horn on, he hasAmber Rose on.
We haven't had like likeWilliamson on, you haven't had a
society priest on, you haven'thad like where the real
conversations are actually going.
It's just all the normie crowdsand that's just Nick.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, the thing is I look, I have a position that I
don't know if I could like sayobjectively it's wrong, but my
position on that is like whenMichael Knowles had that former
porn star on.
Like Michael Knowles is ahandsome, attractive Italian guy
, he's charming.
You're talking to this 20something year old young girl.
There's no way you're notflirting with her Like you're

(23:27):
trying to make her laugh, likethere's something about making a
woman laugh in a one-on-oneconversation that is intimate.
Right now Michael's a marriedguy, just.
That whole conversation seemedoff to me.
So same thing with Matt Fraddwhen he talked to Amber.
Like it's just, you're having aconversation with a

(23:47):
20-something-year-old TikTokstar and you're like it's, you
know, I'm not.
I don't think it's weird.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah, it's weird to me.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, like people were saying in the comments
earlier, like are you havingAmber on?
Like I don't think I'd everhave Amber on.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
You know, if it's not a conversation that would like
happen in your daily life,probably shouldn't happen online
either.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, it's just weird because again it's like OK, at
the end of the day, not again.
I'm not trying to belittle her,but it's like, of all the
guests that you can have on, whyhave someone who is so young
and you're a married man, likethat's just yeah, and I don't
want to imply anything here.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I'm not implying anything here.
I'm not saying.
I'm not saying like it's, thisis.
This might be a me thing, youknow, like I, I don't.
I just don't see myself doingthat.
I'm not, I don't, I don't wantto, I don't want to put the
image in people's heads that hedid something wrong there.
Yeah, definitely not that.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
It just looks weird.
The apparatus of how it looksis just kind of odd and with all
the guests that you could haveon at the same time, it's kind
of like, okay, why are we havingmultiple people from the people
of the Old Covenant but wewon't have like controversial
priests on?
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (25:02):
like we'll have priests to give the normie.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
They tow the line.
They'll give the normie line,but that's about it.
What's up, dude?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
um, what, what look?
I think that.
Uh man, I don't know if Ishould say this we've already
started, man, this is I mean Ican't throw you into the bus,
any, any this is a local

Speaker 4 (25:22):
show.
This is not we disavow,whatever anthony's gonna say
hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I have a banner for that.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Oh yes, we haven't broken out the banner in a while
um this should not be onyoutube, man, so no not story
time with anthony, nope, no,probably not the heresy one.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, this one so the what I've noticed with matt is
he has two different uh guestoptions.
He goes with um, my daughter iscalling me again, oh man yeah,
she's.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
She's seeing what you're saying about women she's
pissed.
I love ambrose I love ambroseactually for a good show.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
You do the opposite well, no, I'm not gonna say
anything bad, yeah, it's just.
It's more of a.
It's more of a bros chat thatyou have behind the wall.
We'll have it on locals maybeall right.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Maybe anthony said, we're not doing locals tonight
well, that's the thing we're notdoing.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well, oh, maybe we'll cut this one short and 12 and
locals, maybe we'll.
Maybe we'll make this like a 35minute episode.
We'll talk for another 10minutes on this and then we'll
jump.
All right, that's what I'll do.
I'll tell, I'll tell my myopinion on on that over on the
other side, because, yeah, Iactually was talking to somebody
the other day about this verything, about guests that Matt

(26:48):
has on.
So it's you know, and I don'twant it to be scandalous or
anything.
So, yeah, the online thing,like I'm telling anybody right
now that if, if you're goingafter amber's husband, like if
you like you guys got toremember you're catholic man,
like you have to remember she'sa human being, you have to
remember that that's a marriage.

(27:09):
You don't want to actually haveto face god one day for
interfering in a marriage likethat.
And they're newlyweds too andlike those newlywed years.
Look, she's not doing herselfany favors by doing all this,
but it's also not our job to goand correct every single thing a
person does wrong.
There's a lot of, there's a lotof times where I see people

(27:31):
losing their minds on on Twitterspecifically, and I'm like, why
don't you just scroll past thatLike, just just ignore it, like
.
If you're getting yourselfworked up on twitter and getting
angry, you're doing it wrongwhile he gives out his address
to someone to be but that wasn'tout of anger, that was just
because I knew the guy, the guys.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
The guy said that the first time.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
The first time it was , and well, the first time it
was yeah, yeah, but look, I'mtrying to grow, okay I wish I
was on twitter whenever you didthat.
That would have have been sofunny what happened was I said I
would punch somebody if theybroke a statue of Our Lady in
front of me.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
He means the original .

Speaker 2 (28:06):
And the guy said he goes no, you won't fight anybody
.
Give me your address and I'llcome and do it in front of you.
So I threw my address at him.
You're not coming here.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
You know you're not coming here.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Then I went to bed and I woke up and there was 25
000 comments on it andeverybody's like bro, you just
threw your address up.
Somebody posted a picture ofthe house.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
I was like, oh okay, let's chill yeah like I said,
that's how you get your wholefamily murdered well, the other
thing is um, okay.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
So there's one other thing where, uh, where she she
says I have to protect mymarriage.
And that shouldn't be, look,because it should be the
husband's job to protect them.
She didn't say protect myhusband, which that would have
been bad right If she had said Ihave to protect my husband.

(28:53):
She didn't.
She said I have to protect mymarriage and she does have to
protect their marriage.
So the thing is like, when wetalk about, about like wives
submitting to their husbands andobeying their husbands, this is
kind of the stuff we're talkingabout, where, if your husband
is uncomfortable with something,you, you ladies kind of got to
listen to your husband on this,you know.

(29:15):
So if her, if she said hermarriage went through hell in
that clip, she's like they putus through hell.
Yeah, people are ruthless on theinternet, like they have no
conscience because they arebehind this anonymous account.
So you do have to do a littlebit of self inventory and go
what am I doing wrong here?
I used to post pictures of mykids.
I used to post pictures of mywife.
I I don't do any of thatanymore because, like, I wanted

(29:39):
to post a picture, me and Nicolewent to.
Let's put it this way, robposted a picture in a small
group chat with me, jason andMark the other day, and so me
and my wife went to do that.
That was funny and I got a stainon my shirt.
Right, I got a stain on myshirt, so my wife wanted a

(30:06):
picture.
So when we're taking thepicture, picture.
I kind of leaned over to hidethe stain on my shirt and rob
sends the picture of me and mywife with the lines you ever see
the green lines and I'm leanedover my wife standing straight
up.
I was like I gotta call blockhim right now, like I'm you.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
You, you have said that number.
Like anytime I pull a pic offof facebook, you say that I
don't know, I can't tell you.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I'm like this kid I wanted to strangle you and you
did that.
I'm like they.
They think I'm leaning overlike I'm beta.
I'll kill them.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
I failed the test but here's the thing I knew not to
go any further than to just yes,absolutely.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
You would never put that on Twitter like it was, but
that's what that's kind of whatI'm talking about.
It would have been co-sleepingtimes 8000, bro.
That would have been the end ofavoiding dabble out of time
right now.
That would have been a wrapright there because I woke up to

(31:01):
it, like you posted it late atnight, and I woke up the next
morning too and I'm like thismother, I'm gonna kill him.
And I saw it was just the fourof us.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I was like all right, it was the last thing I did
before I went to bed.
I went to bed chuckling youhave no idea you guys gotta send
me this photo after.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, I'll send it to you, but it was just funny
because I knew no matter whatexplaining I did like I'm like
no, no, guys, gotta understand,I had a stain on the show yeah,
the more you explain, the worseit gets so.
so then, um, uh, the the thingwith with amber, I almost
tweeted yesterday.

(31:39):
I actually did tweet it and Ideleted it.
I said one thing you'll neverhear my wife say is I have to
protect my husband.
It was a cheap shot and Ideleted it.
And Jason asked me why Ideleted it.
He's like why did you deletethat?
And I'm like because I didn'twant to add to the pile on.
Like a marriage is a sacredthing, man.
Like I just don't want to addto the pile on.

(32:00):
Like I like a marriage is asacred thing, man.
Like I just don't, I don't wantto add to the stress she's
clearly going through.
And then I kind of titled theshow that Jason was like dude,
like all right, yeah, thethumbnails there, but like
that's not the conversation Iwanted to have on the show
tonight.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
We did change the thumbnail.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Anthony says all this .

Speaker 2 (32:19):
No, no, no, Listen, anthony says all this.
No, no, listen, I'll.
But even even what we're doing,like I think if you're a public
figure, you are open tocriticism, right?
So if I said to rob, like ifsomebody took something rob and
I were saying and featured itand like this is what they got
wrong, is what they got wrong,is what they got wrong, I have
no issue with that.
Like that's actually it's, it's, it's what men are supposed to

(32:40):
do, and even if somebody elsedid it to me, I'd be totally
fine with that.
Like that's actually it's, it's, it's what men are supposed to
do.
And even if somebody else didit to me, I'd be totally fine
with that.
But if somebody didn't likesomething I said, so then they
start trying to dig into mypersonal life and find my wife
and my kids.
It's like I've shared that.
I've shared stories about myfamily online, and it's like
that will turn on me one day.
And it's I don't, it's, it'sdude, you, you don't want to
mess with a guy's family, youknow.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Yeah, I mean it's just in general, like unless
their family is doing somethingout in about openly evil or
inappropriate or something likethat, just to kind of take cheap
shots at somebody is not thegreatest idea.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, and it is the internet and it's not going to
change, which is why it look,amber does watch this.
Like you gotta stop with you,gotta stop with the selfies.
Like I'm just I'm giving youthis advice as as an older
person who's kind of looking inon this, and it's just I'm

(33:35):
telling you what it comes offbecause I don't think women
understand you.
What it comes off because Idon't think women understand.
Like I don't think womenunderstand what men see when you
post something like that.
Like we just see narcissism.
And the funny thing is women dotoo, like I've seen, I've seen

(33:55):
women who will see other womenpost something and they'll go ew
, I can't believe she, I can'tbelieve she posted that.
Like ew, look at her, she justthinks who the hell she is and
then comment on the frickingpicture oh my gosh, you're so
pretty.
Now women feed off that oh mygosh, you're so pretty, it's,
it's, it's something that a lotof these young guys who aren't

(34:18):
married yet don't understandabout women.
Like it's just, it's justsomething girls do, man, like
they, they need, they need, um,uh, what, what would that?

Speaker 4 (34:28):
what would that be called?
Like they?
They need essentiallyself-esteem from given yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
But that's why I think it's okay with your
girlfriends.
Like, I don't think that's anissue.
But if you're putting thisstuff out to 43,000 anonymous
followers, you don't know who'slooking at this stuff, you don't
know who's watching.
I saw look, they were rippingon her because she was barefoot
in one of her pictures and it'slike saying you know, this is

(35:02):
like fetish stuff.
It's like you can't be.
You can't just be throwingyourself out there like that and
then be shocked when oh, I'mpraying for their souls because
they're criticized.
It's like no, you have to takea little responsibility.
Yeah, affirmation, perfect,patrick.
Yeah, like women need thataffirmation.
But it and look it, all of thisis vanity.
Though me getting on this showand you got and thinking you
guys want to hear what I have tosay is vanity, all is vanity.
I'm not accusing her ofsomething I'm not guilty of.

(35:25):
It's all of us do this stuff.
It's just you have to becareful.
I don't know I've posted thingsin the past that I should not
have.
I'm trying to take this alittle bit more carefully,
especially sharing privatefamily.
So, like we started a, a familyphoto group in in my family,

(35:47):
like my siblings I have eightsiblings, my parents, or we
started a family sharing thingthere so that, like dude, I
don't even use my personalInstagram anymore.
I locked it down.
I haven't posted a single thingon that thing in years.
The only thing I'll post isclips from this show on the
Avoiding Babylon channel, and Itry to just keep everything on

(36:07):
Twitter now where it's not toopersonal.
I wanted to post a picture of meand Nicole when we went to that
Halloween party.
We went as Ragnar and Lagertha,but I'm like, no, somebody's
going to have, it'll just be oneof those things.
Uh, anthony's take on somewoman and her drama is fire.
So, um, alright, so why don'twe do this?

(36:29):
Why don't we cut this one short?
Because I do have to get upearly tomorrow, and we'll do.
We'll do a 30 35 minutes overon locals and I'll give you guys
my thoughts over on, uh, what Ithink happens when shows start
to get bigger.
Um, and all of a sudden, anganhas rob about which second
amendment and how much ammo heneeds to blow.

(36:51):
Yeah, look, we're putting alagatha, not agatha he's got.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
He's got a gun dealer friend in prison.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I told that on air right.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, you did.
You told that on air.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, bro, one day, nick, one day, we go into work
and there's 50 detectives at theyard, like 50 squad cars, and
they're, and they're, andthey're.
They got a search warrant.
They're searching our entireyard like what the hell is going
on here?
One of our mechanics wasbuilding ghost guns in our yard
using our mechanic shop.

(37:24):
Like he was a mechanic, hewould stay until like two in the
morning working on the trucksand then he would build ghost
guns.
The guy was building ghost gunsand selling them in
pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Don't use the liberal language, don't call them ghost
guns but that's what he, that'swhat they called it.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
So that's what he got in trouble for.
He was getting different partsof guns shipped to his house in
Pennsylvania and then he wouldgo pick the stuff up and you
would bring it and you wouldassemble the guns.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
He's doing what is legal in 45 states, yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
What's legal and natural Ghost guns.
By the way, they can be used onghosts If people want to so
yeah, ghosts are the main thing.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I if people want to run 380 yes, they're not illegal
guns.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
They're undocumented guns.
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Um, I'm gonna ask once again if this is your first
time checking the show out,subscribe.
If you watch us on occasion,please subscribe, like the.
The subscribers help.
The algorithm helps spread theshow.
We try to do something a littlebit different over here, where
we, you know, try to talk alittle bit more just like normal
people and not put a persona on.
So we're going to go on theother side.

(38:30):
On the other side is where wereally Let the hair down.
Yeah, we gossip over there guys.
So if you guys like gossip,that's where we go to gossip.
So come check us out on theother side.
It's $5 a month.
I mean, come on, we'reliterally scrounging and begging
for $5.
Let's go, it's not thatexpensive.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Let me put the link in the chat real quick.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
You guys spend that on a cup of coffee and you enjoy
our show.
We're going to go over there.
When are we going to startcutting the YouTube show to 40
minutes, 35 minutes, and give itmore to locals?
I think that's what we need todo Appreciate all locals.
What was funny is the subshaven't been going up here on
YouTube but they've been goingup on locals.
People do like the locals a lot.

(39:11):
I appreciate you guys.
I subscribe to Nick Perry's.
I appreciate you guys.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
For all I know, you're just a syrup bottle out
there.
That's all I know.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Nick told me the other day he doesn't like syrup.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
I don't Not really.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Don is so funny.
He's like why am I paying forlocals?
You guys never do locals, wedon't even like the local show.
Alright, we're going over there, rob, take us out, we all right
, wait, wait.
Closing thoughts.
Um, yeah, I would say everybodyneeds to chill out with the
going for personal attacks likethat.

(39:50):
Um, amber has me blocked, somaybe I said something to her
one time or I upset her, I don'tknow if it's probably because
of Jason.
Yeah, maybe, but if I ever saidanything, amber, if you watch
this and I've ever said anythingto upset you, I promise you I
won't do that again.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Don't make that.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I pray, I don't I pray.
I have self-control to not dothat.
But yeah, everybody got tochill out.
You, you gotta remember there'sa human being behind the,
especially the anonymousaccounts.
Man, sometimes I'm just like,bro, why am I, why am I arguing
with somebody who doesn't havetheir name and their face up?
It's like they'll say anythingto get you going.

(40:34):
So sounds like a waste of timeto me.
All right, she's.
She's giving me proof thatshe's a woman.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
I want to see a pic.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I'm not going to set you up with Nick until I see
pics.
We'll see you guys over there.
Rob, take us out.
Brother, you, it's kind ofwatch out for this wildly

(41:22):
aggressive so true anthony, thisis one uh interesting photo
that rob sent me I can sharewith locals right right

Speaker 4 (41:37):
although I will say anthony, how tall are you?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
uh, five, nine five.
I'm taller than you.
What?

Speaker 4 (41:43):
yeah, dang, I don't know, I guess it's like the
angle of the computer thatyou're on.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
You look like you're just like this, really like
beefy, super tall dude now, Imet him, and you know I met him
in steubenville that first timeand he comes up to give me a big
bear hug and it's like a dwarffrom lord of the rings I'll tell
you five like 11, so not muchtaller.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
We're the same height , yeah no, nick, it's.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
It was so weird to meet rob because rob doesn't
look that tall.
Rob's like six.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
What six three no, that's mark, mark, I'm five, I'm
like five, ten, five elevenyou're at least 6'4".

Speaker 2 (42:19):
No I really am.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I know You're tall.
Maybe you're 5'7".
Jason's a munchkin.
Jason's like an inch shorterthan you.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Jason's a munchkin.
He's like 5'6".
Rip he's not 5'6" Mark is like6'4".

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Mark is a giant.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
I couldn't believe how tall mark was.
It was crazy um, okay, so uh,let me bring up the chat so I
can see what everybody's sayingoh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
We actually are still live, just on locals.
I was not wearing heels, paulhe's wearing.
He's wearing lifts mark mighthave been wearing cowboy boots
with heels, though that's true,that's possible, that's possible
um, okay, so, wow, we got 80 inlocals right now.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Okay, what's up y'all ?
So, frad, I was just talking tosomebody about this recently,
actually yesterday.
Here's the problem with what Isee his bookings.
He seems to pick social mediastars to raise his own profile

(43:33):
and then back to theSteubenville pool, like he'll go
back to the like the Franciscanuniversity pool, so, but I feel
like he's not picking guestsbased on what will be a good
conversation.
He's picking guests solely forthe purpose of growing the show
bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
It seems like to be fair, he does have someone who
does the bookings Drink everyone, by the way.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
We're going to have to let that bit go to rest,
because it's just we are who weare.
You got to understand.
You got to change.
Wait, no, I was talking to mywife and my son yesterday and I
said you got to understand.
I'm like I say that all thetime my son goes yeah, I know,
I'm in the next room whileyou're on air.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I hear you gotta understand.
You gotta understand.
You gotta you don't even know.
I don't think you understandwhat you guys don't understand
that.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I told him about the avoiding babble on drinking game
.
Like holy crap.
You say all these things overand over for his 21st birthday.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
We should make him play it live on air as we stream
.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
It would be funny.
It would be funny.
This is why you get tankedevery time I say something I
want to have him on.
I want to have a conversationwith him on air because I have
such good conversations with myson Like wildly deep, intense
conversations with him.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Well, it's not like you don't have the equipment to
record a conversation with him,it's about talking him into it
like.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I want him to come on like and I would like to have a
conversation with my wife onhere to maybe let her share some
of like her journey a littlebit.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
But I I don't think she would want to come on either
, you know you know, we shouldmaybe do another temperament
episode with our wives, but forkids, for like for our children
yeah, yeah, that would be a goodidea.
Yeah, I'll show up with my,with my wife, right here just so
we can wait until aunt jemimaand you are settled, don't worry
dude, I can't go for a girlthat aggressive so, um, yeah, so

(45:39):
I found it.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I found it refreshing when matt had mike pantile on,
because mike doesn't have agiant social media presence.
It seemed like he picked mikesimply out of.
Hey, I want to talk to this guyto come back and mike's
connected to gordon, which thingyou know.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
So that's a frantic lord.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
You got some friction behind the scenes Nothing bad,
but like they're they butt heads, you know.
So I got it was.
I was happy to see Mike go onthere.
Now that I think that's part ofthe problem.
As your show grows and you gettoo big, you become audience
capture, Like part of what I seeis his hesitancy to say things

(46:19):
that he that he wants to say.
I think think, because I thinkhe's worried he's going to cross
a line with other people thathe respects and he doesn't want.
Like there's such a we're in atime where you say the wrong
thing and then all of a suddenyou're accused of schism.
You say the wrong thing and allof a sudden you're accused of
thinking you're your own pope.
So I think everybody's walkingon eggshells right now around

(46:42):
all the conversations and itjust seems to be that way.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
I don't know plus, plus, like when you think about
money being introduced into thesituation.
It's like if he has all thesekind of, you know like legit
right wing, right wing people on, which is what we would like to
see, you know like people aregonna flip and he I don't need
him to do that I look he has, hehas his thing.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I know what he does.
He goes and he wants to getsomebody on that's going to, you
know, maybe expand his audienceand then he tries to have a
deeper theological conversation.
So I'll have peter kreeft onand then he'll have uh, who do
you just have on?
Uh, uh, the, the, the purityguy, uh, jason everett, right,

(47:26):
like like he dips into that poolI'm blocked by jason everett.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Criticized uh stubyville conferences plus
theology of the body man.
It has so many issues, has somany issues, plus the fact that
they in that interview kind ofuh, tried to, you know, skirt
under the rug john paul iikissing the quran.
I was just like, bro, why arewe still doing this?
Why?
Are we still doing this.
It's the same old game thatwe've had since the 80s.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
It's just the same old story I think you, as a
newcomer, don't, don't get thedrink no, but I mean he I don't
think you'll be fair to quoterob, the nostalgia that the I
really don't think you get, thenostalgia that the people who
live through that pontificate ispurely but it's what was.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
What's insane to me is it's purely nostalgia,
because I've actually gone andread a fair amount of john paul
I and I'm like what is the deal?
What is your hype over this guy?
This thing is?

Speaker 1 (48:28):
That's because you're a Thomist and he definitely was
not a Thomist.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
Yeah, I'm like not to be bombastic, but I'm like.
This guy says the same thingsthat Pope Francis said, but the
reason he's not being cannedover is that he was a little bit
more conservative on socialissues and there wasn't the
internet.
That's pretty much the onlyreason why.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
It's also because they were all Protestant
converts coming in during thistime and they were actually the
catechesis for all ofCatholicism during this time.
So you have to remember theScott Hans coming in, the Jeff
Cavens coming in, the like, thatwhole group of guys.
You have Steve, steve Ray,steve Ray.

(49:07):
So all these guys convert fromProtestantism right, and when
they come here, to them it's themost orthodox, solid foundation
and the liturgy doesn't botherthem at all because they're
coming from Protestantism Right.
So to them it's oh, this is theHoly Mass and you know, this is
where heaven meets earth.
They don't even Nick, I grew upin it.
I didn't know, but I doremember, like learning the

(49:31):
theology of the Mass and thengoing to Mass and having such a
giant disconnect, yeah, sayinghow is this where heaven meets
earth?
I mean it's just.
But that, yeah, saying how ishow is this where heaven meets
earth?
I mean it's just.
But then, when I finally wentto the latin mass, saying oh,
this is what I learned about,like that that does happen,
right.
So I think the the nostalgia isjohn paul ii did stand up to

(49:52):
communism at the time, likethese are.
These are older guys who sawcommunism in russia and poland.
And then they saw the BerlinWall come down.
They saw Gorbachev faking whenhe shook John Paul II's hand.
Like John Paul II before theabuse crisis was a towering man,
he was a figure of authority.

(50:13):
You have to think about howmuch authority the church lost.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
For all the Zoomers out there.
He had riz.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
He did.
He had r riz.
He was a young pope.
He came in before the abusecrisis.
The catholic church still helda really big moral authority in
the world.
So when john paul ii, he wasthe most pro-life, outspoken
pro-life leader of his time,talking about the culture of
death.
These things resonated withthat generation.

(50:40):
He can look that pope paul viwas such a disaster.
The faith collapses under him.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
John paul ii salvages it, believe it or not so all he
did was manage to halt thetrain a little bit a little bit
and it's like because I'll justgive you just one quote, right?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
here so like.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
So this is one thing I was reading the other day make
a fair comparison.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Could we not also say that about your man, donald
trump?

Speaker 4 (51:10):
oh, no, 100.
I was actually going to usethat as an example.
I was actually going to usethat as an example, but I was
going to say so.
Listen to this quote.
So this comes from one of hisencyclicals, redemptor Hominis,
and it goes with my subtitleright here.
He says this quote, and thiscomes from paragraph number six
of Redemptor Hominis quote doesit not sometimes happen that the
firm belief of those professingnon-Christian religions, which

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also itself proceeds from thespirit of truth operating
outside the visible confines ofthe mystical body, can make
Christians ashamed at beingoftentimes themselves so
disposed to doubt concerning thetruth revealed by God?
End quote.
So in this statement rightalone, he says that the spirit
of truth proceeds and is innon-Christian religions.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Okay, so let me ask you something.
What the absolute.
I'm going to ask you somethinghonestly.
A person is living a debauchedlife.
Mm-hmm, they hear a Christianpastor give a sermon and do the
altar call and they give theirlife to Jesus Christ.
That's not the spirit of truthworking in the like.
I'm not trying to make ahumanism or anything, I'm just

(52:17):
like you can make that statement.
Work is all I'm saying.
Like, your original conversionand your love for Jesus was the
spirit of truth working in yourlife.
It just hadn't come tofulfillment.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Except that statement's not saying things
within those religions, it'ssaying those religions
themselves are inspired by thespirit.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
I have another quote if you guys want me to pull it
up later, but I have anotherquote where it talks about that
the spirit of God moved thefounders of other religions in
the establishing of their rights.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Oh yeah, that's rough .
Yeah, no, I'm not going to beintroduced for any of that.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
But to answer your point so it's like I get this
all the time like, okay, youhave baptism outside of the
church, you have the Bibleoutside of the church.
These are obviously good thingsright.
Salvific things like what do wedo with that?
The traditional Catholicunderstanding before Vatican II
was that all of those thingsright.
The Bible before vatican ii wasthat all of those things like

(53:12):
the bible, baptism, an altarcall, if you will, you can call
that like an act of faith, actof contrition, whatever are
stolen from the catholic church.
The catholic church is by rightand they're stolen and baptism
is catholic baptism yeah, and ifand if there is any type of
salvific work going on, it is inspite of their false religion,
as opposed to the spirit of Godmoving in the religion or
inspiring the founders of thereligions, etc.

(53:34):
So what I and I get this.
So it's like you bring up agood point, anthony.
There's a lot that John Paul II, on a social, natural level,
that he did was very, very goodand I don't criticize him for
that.
I've never criticized him forfor those things.
But it's this reality whereit's.
He continues to push catholichumanism, if you can call it
that, which is this man-centeredworldview.

(53:55):
I mean, it's like you lookagain at theology of the body,
theology of the body.
There's a lot of good in it,but it is all 1000 focused on
man for the most part it's never, it's never about it.
It's never about like thisviolates God's law.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
OK, but it also did help to teach Catholics about
birth control, right, they wereunder assault where they were
just no cate.
A person is using birth control.
What they are doing iswithholding some of themselves

(54:33):
from their spouse, and Christgives himself completely to us.
So if Christ is the bride, thebridegroom in the church is the
bride, the bride groom giveshimself completely.
He withholds nothing.
So for a lot of Catholicsolics,that catechesis worked for them
, right, so that so a lot ofpeople that resonated with them.
It was just a way of his talkingright.

(54:53):
And it's look, it's thisflowery nonsense that you get
after the council.
It's, it's in every single popesince that.
You look, even today,everybody's ranting and raving
about francis's encyclical today.
Listen to what, listen to whathe says here.
The gospel tells us Jesus cameto his own.
Those words refer to us, forthe Lord does not treat us as

(55:18):
strangers, but as a possessionthat he watches over and
cherishes.
No, those words the Lord cameinto his own is specifically
about the Jews.
He came into his own and hisown rejected him.
Yeah, that's, that's what thatis from, right.
Then there's another one um, uh,let's see.
Uh, christ showed the depth ofhis love for us, not by lengthy

(55:41):
explanations but by concreteactions.
Like that's that, saint francis, preach the gospel and use
words when necessary.
No, like you're discounting theSermon on the Mount, you're
discounting all the times Christgave concrete words to the
Pharisees.
Like it wasn't just his actions.
Yeah, his actions, of course,but his words are what I mean.

(56:03):
Every Bible has Christ's wordsin red for a reason.
It wasn't just by his actions,it wasn't just by healing the
lepers and things like that.
It was the things that he said,and a lot of times it was very
uncomfortable things that hesaid.
So it's this whitewashing ofour faith that they've been
doing for a very long time andwe get a little morsel of

(56:24):
orthodoxy from Francis andeverybody's going to go yeah.
And it's look you have to dig tofind orthodoxy.
There's nothing then you'redigging.
I had to dig in this one tofind something I didn't like.
Like I had to dig in this oneto find something I didn't like.
I think, jenner and jen like Ido think this document is a good
document.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
It's just yeah you have that flowery bullshit yeah,
it's just very loose, non-like,strict theological language
correct.
Here's my question, and this isjust something to think about.
It's like.
So, when it comes to like birthcontrol as an example, do you
think that the people in thetime of john paul ii and even
today are ignorant on thechurch's teachings on like,

(57:06):
specifically, the followingabortion, contraception and
homosexuality?
Because I would argue that,while it's understandable that
there's like, sure, there's 1000a lack of catechesis in certain
areas, but yeah, it's not thoseareas, like those areas, they
know and it's not a lack ofcatechesis, it's horrible
catechesis it's, I think they Ithink they know what the church

(57:28):
teaches and they just reject it.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Okay, no, because they're well.
Yeah, maybe, especiallyabortion.
Yeah, but birth control no,people are hearing God sees the
heart, yeah, god sees the heart.
You guys don't really thinkabout what that phrase means.
God sees the heart?
That means it doesn't mean,well, I had good intentions and
God sees my intentions.
No, god sees what is in theroot of your heart and if you're

(57:51):
using birth control, it'sselfishness.
That's not.
You know, like, when you reallyget down to what the cause of
our sin is, it's all rooted invanity, selfishness.
I don't want another kidbecause it's going to cost me
too much, things like that.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
But people hear that phrase God sees the heart, sees
the heart and they think, oh,he'll see my intentions.
They just have a false god.
Then, like that's it.
That's yeah, that's the thingwe've made.
We've made a false god, thisgod that never judges, never
condemns, never throws anybodyinto hell.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
God being presented to them by exactly and it's a
holy catholic and apostolicchurch.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
So and it's a false god because it doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Okay, but I wonder if some of the man dude, when I do
this show late at night, Iforget words, culpability, I
wonder if some of theculpability is relieved because
institution that is supposed tobe teaching is not properly
teaching.
You know, like I do think Ithink one of the marks of

(58:52):
somebody who is OrthodoxCatholic it's like one of the
first things you do is you throwthe birth control out.
It's like I'm not on birthcontrol, I like I this.
This teaching is the hardestteaching in our modern world.
And when you throw it out, it'slike, okay, I'm going to
embrace one of the mostdifficult crosses that comes in
our life.
So I think all the people thatare using it are yes, it's a

(59:16):
false.
It's a God that they'recomfortable with.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
It's a God they've made up in their mind, like in
Psalm 49 says- it's a God intheir own image.
Yeah, god chastises the peopleof Israel in Psalm 49 because he
says you've been partakers withadulterers, you've gone in the
way of thieves, you've gone inthe way of murderers and you've
made me as if I was one of you.
In other words, you've made meas if I was just another man who

(59:43):
tolerated all of your evil.
That you're going about, andthat's the thing.
God is, on the one hand, thegood father in Luke 15 who comes
to the prodigal son, but theprodigal son has repentance.
He's also the same God who, inthe book of the Apocalypse John,
fell on his face at the wrathof the Lamb.
He's the same God.
We can't de-emphasize orover-emphasize one or the other.

(01:00:04):
What I see going on is thatthese people, if you genuinely
believe that god is a god ofsurprises and we should discern
morality, like you're out tolife.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
it's an over emphasis on mercy to the point where
it's toxic and it's mercy, it'sfalse mercy.
Uh, it's this.
It's the same thing we alwaystalk about with confession,
right, these priests that justgive absolution willy-nilly
without actually dealing withthe root of the problem.
We saw a post the other day.

(01:00:36):
It was a kid who got hisgirlfriend pregnant.
He said fiance, I got my fiancepregnant and I was going to the
priest and when I wasconfessing that we were sleeping
together, the priest said don'tcome back in here with the same
sin week after week.
Now he presented it as ifthat's what the priest said.
But I think the priest probablysaid look, you don't have a
firm purpose of amendment.

(01:00:56):
You're sleeping at the girl'shouse.
You're coming in week afterweek telling me you slept with
your girlfriend just so you canreceive communion.
Like you can't.
You can't do that.
You can't come in here, getabsolution so you can receive
communion and then you go backto sleep with your girlfriend,
like you're using theconfessional as a revolving door
at that point, right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
So it's just invalid because you don't actually have
true contrition.
It's just you're.
You're using it as almost a aget out of hell free card, more
or less.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah, so so the thing is, if you're struggling with
something, I do think you shouldlook there's because I did that
.
When I first gave uppornography.
I like I did go through thatrevolving door and I do think it
was good to do that, eventhough I was falling way more
off.
You know, like I was fallingpretty often back then.
It's like you, you, you need togo through that even, like

(01:01:48):
because you do have a firmpurpose of amendment.
You're just so weak.
I'm of two minds about thepornography thing, but if you're
sleeping with someone, I havetwo things.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
From the chat One, someone admitted to the biggest
mistake they could possibly make.
They said I've introducedAvoiding Babylon to the girl
I've been talking to.
She just asked me why peopledon't like trent horn.
I'm not ready for thatconversation with him I told him
we're not responsible if itdoesn't work that's hilarious

(01:02:22):
and then because I do like trenthorn.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
This is nothing to do me liking him, I do like trent
it's I think just he's just hasa lot of cringe views and we oh,
I'll tell you, no, no, it's notjust cringe views, it's the
jufro here, the trent's trent.
My issue with trent now is Idon't know what his thing is.

(01:02:45):
He doesn't have an identity.
Like he's trying to work outhis identity right now.
He goes from being the Catholicapologist who will do debates
to doing a reaction video, totriggering the trads, to
triggering the left guys.
He doesn't have a brand.
I feel like he's all over theplace because he's caught in
that same cycle of oh, I got toget views, I got to get views If

(01:03:07):
something's controversial.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
I'll talk about.
I think, look, it's a dangerfor all of us.
It's not all those catholicanswers, guys, so it's like that
, it's a dying brand.
It's a dying brand.
It's not and this is not metrying to trash like catholic
answers of the people who workthere, anything, but it's just
like you know, people areinterested in deeper answers and
they don't want to just begaslit with the same.
Well, you know he was speakingspanish, or you know the
translation was wrong.
They don't want it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
They don't want that anymore I do think the catholic
apologetics was necessary for meto learn how to defend my faith
oh yeah like those, those,those quick go-to answers so you
don't get beaten down by aProtestant right.
But that would never havesustained my faith.
Sustain what sustains my faithis by actually going back to the

(01:03:55):
early church, and that's whyeven the conversation we had the
other day about uh, the suit isyou mean talking about time
travels and portals with JimmyAkin doesn't sustain your faith.
You mean the alien stigmata isnot enough for you, it's not
just that, it's the, it's the,uh, the.
The typical canned responses toprotestants almost don't hold

(01:04:20):
up under francis.
So you, you have to.
You have to see the time we'rein right now as as typological.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
You have to see it as as a part of, of salvation
history I would say the catholicanswer, sort of apology
apologetics has, like theevolution of that, is like is is
josh charles, it is, yeah, Iagree.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
I agree because he's he's actually doing a rigorous
academic study into these thingsand he's but he's presenting it
in a way that's helpful forpeople, whereas I said, maybe
like a month ago, I think thatif we continue to see Catholic
answers or that type ofapologetics format defending
everything that the Pope says,then what it does is it weakens

(01:05:05):
our arguments in the eyes of theOrthodox, in the eyes of the
Protestants, because, as youguys said, back in the days of
nostalgia, you would be able tosay, well, we don't worship the
Pope, we don't take everythingthat he says as absolute, but
that's what people are doing nowin Catholic Answers.
And so if I was to God forbidleave the Catholic faith, I
would have a ton of videoevidence to use and say, okay,

(01:05:33):
yeah, you guys don't say youworship the Pope or don't say
that you take the Pope andeverything.
But I have Michael Lofton and Iknow that no serious person is
going to make an 87 videoplaylist trying to defend one
document if it's just perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
The one other thing I was going to say from the chat
is there is an update on thatReddit comment.
That Pines app is pretty big onreddit, I guess.
Yeah, that guy uh messaged pineapp, pines app and basically
told pines app that he'srepenting and he's amending the
situation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
So it was pine, something good is coming that's
great, yeah, um, somebody in theyoutube comments said anthony
the priest, it's like the thingis I, uh, I feel like somebody
needed to say to hers to stopwith the selfies not in a

(01:06:25):
roasting her kind of way,because I I saw like Christian
Wagner went through her feet andthey were they like the
Groypers attack this girl.
They went hard on her, but it's, there's comes a point where
you have to, you have to justrealize you're, you're the cause
of a lot of the, a lot of thecontroversy in your, in your

(01:06:45):
marriage and life.
So that was, that was the point.
But even even even though thatshow was a little click baby, I
think the conversation was agood conversation.
Like I don't, I don't think itwas, you know, and I think all
of us are dealing with theonline stuff and all of us have
to be careful with it.
That's.
I just thought it was.
There was an importantconversation.
That was a good way to have it.

(01:07:06):
It sucks that I used her as thelaunching point, but I told you
not to um, so?
but to nick's point, thecatholic answers um, the the uh,
yes, the joshua charles stuffis definitely the uh.
Rob said that the evolution ofthat catholic answer stuff.

(01:07:27):
Right, I think that it's it'spretty stale, the catholic
answer stuff, but there are new.
It's it's kind of likecatholicism 101.
So I think it's like thenewbies do come in that way and
then they go a little bit deeperand then they maybe go back
into the fathers and things likethat.
I think that part of the reasonI said the things that I did

(01:07:48):
about Frad is because why hasn'tJosh Charles been on Pints?
Why haven't we been on Pints?
Like honestly?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I understand.
Josh deserves it way more thanwe do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Yes, but I'm just saying, matt clearly watches our
show.
He leaves comments at times.
He watches our show.
We're decent friends with hisproducer yeah, it's like why
would you not ask us to come onlike I'm not even like butter
hurt by it?
It's not like I'm just asking.
Like you know it would be agood conversation.
It would be, yeah, you may notget a hundred thousand, two

(01:08:21):
hundred thousand views on it,but but it's a good conversation
and that's what it should comedown to it's.
They don't all have to be thatway, but every once in a while
you want to have a goodconversation.
Joshua, charles, he would be aphenomenal conversation for Matt
to have on, and I don'tunderstand.
Even Nancy would be an amazingconversation.
Why hasn't he asked either ofthem to come on?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Cigar Mode sent us a $30 tip saying and a drink for
Anthony and Nick and also neverbring up fringe e-girl vids
again.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
So true, so true.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Don has a great idea of how we get on Pines.
He says you just need to take atrip to Steubenville to talk to
him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Yeah, that worked great.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Last time I don't know if I would survive in
Steubenville.
I'm not gonna lie, I thinkyou're right, anthony, though I
think I mean you.
Here's the thing with.
Here's the thing with youtubein general.
Right, I think this sums uppretty much.
Amber horn, everybody, right atthe end of the day, we don't
know what their like hearts ormotivations are behind what they
post or what they do.
Like.
You can make an assumption, butwe, we can't, without any any

(01:09:27):
hard evidence, know what they'redoing.
It could just be businessopportunity, it could be
nefarious stuff, it could justbe going after trying to keep
donors and stuff alive.
Who knows what it is.
I just want this, at the end ofthe day, whatever side they end
up taking, I would really likefor us, at the end of the day,
to put aside a lot of thepartisan nonsense and get back

(01:09:50):
to being disciples of Christ andwinning people over as
disciples of Christ, becauseit's like this.
The Groypers, you guys have alot of good points, but are you
good disciples of Christ?
Fellow traditionalists, we havea lot of good points, but are
we being good disciples ofChrist?
Normies, anti-trads, whateveryou want to label yourself as.
Are you being a goodrepresentative of Christ.

(01:10:11):
I have not a lot of time online.
I've let the flesh take over alot of time online.
I've said stupid stuff online.
I've gone really hard at PopeFrancis, I've gone really hard
against people who go to the newmass and it's like I deep down
Nick's heart is a heart ofgenuine like love and charity
and wanting to have discussion,but sometimes I let the flesh
and the emotions take over.
At the end of the day, we justhave to always take a step back

(01:10:42):
and say, okay, before I'm goingto post this, before I'm going
to say this, before I'm going tomake this video, whatever, is
Christ going to be glorified byit genuinely, even if it's a
tough message, but genuinely, atthe end of the day, and I feel
like that's what I struggle withand it's a good gut check,
especially with something likeTwitter, because Twitter is that
rapid fire 280 character.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
You just want to get some fire tweet off and get a
lot of interaction on it andyou're looking for the light.
Look the things I'm accusingher of with the posting selfies
and I was accusing women of, andthey need, they need the.
You know the adulation from it,like I do it too.
It's just a different way it's.
You know every one of us getthat dopamine hit from the likes
it yeah, it's we all want to beseen and known and loved.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Like, like behind, behind, everything what we're
reaching out for is is love, andthis is where, like john paul
ii, I think, is right, like,we're all seeking after love and
behind it all, we're seekingafter the love of Christ.
We're desiring final beatitudeand love with Christ, but
because we're fallen individuals, we'll seek after that love,

(01:11:37):
either in a good way, like in agood, healthy marriage or what
have you, or in bad ways, byproving that you're the most
red-pilled right-wing person outthere.
You know what I'm saying, andso this is why I'm preaching to
myself at the same time.
I'm not good at this either.
I need to learn to have a goodbalance between a good criticism

(01:11:58):
out of genuine charity and thenalso just wanting to be seen
and known and recognizing.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
I already am seen and known.
Yeah, you like it when you'reat mass and somebody goes oh
dude, I watch you on theboarding battle Exactly, it's
not possible to not like that.
You know what I mean.
It means people are enjoyingwhat we're doing.
Rob, bring up Kennedy's tweet.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Oh yeah, that should be fun.
I'll bring up Kennedy's tweet.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Kennedy Hall is a problem segment.
Yeah well, kennedy Hall is aproblem.
We'll clip this up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
We're going to start a beef with Kennedy, because
nothing gets your channel goinglike a good old-fashioned beef.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I deep-dived the analytics today with Anthony and
we've had basically all of oursubs over the last year have
come from five videos.
Two of those five videos havebeen criticisms of Lofton.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
If this Amber video fails, we're doing a Lofton
video.
Sorry guys.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
But also starting beef with kennedy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
I know I sounded really pious a minute ago, but
if it's a lofted video, so umkennedy, uh uh, tweeted
something off of redeem zoomer,so I have a lot of read.
Redeem zoomer first yeah, youngmen today have very little
opportunity to get a job or awife, yet society has the
audacity to still call them theoppressors.
So kennedy said this woe is me.

(01:13:10):
Victimhood mentality, so commonamong zoomer men, is so
nauseating.
You have every opportunity tofind a wife and a job.
Literally just go wherever youneed to go and whatever job you
need to to and find both.
My no-no took his family on aboat across the sea to get a job
.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Get some perspective and stop complaining you know,
know what my problem is withKennedy Hall.
You Italians have to just throwin random Italian words into
the English to make yourselfsound.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
It's a thing we do.
We've got to brag that we'reItalian a little bit.
Kennedy Hall, we all knowthat's not his real name.
I understand Kennedy'sperspective here.
Pull yourself up by yourbootstraps, stop complaining.
We all know that's not his realname.
So I understand Kennedy'sperspective here.
Okay, pull yourself up by yourbootstraps, stop complaining.
So I disagree with him in hislack of empathy for these guys,

(01:14:02):
because we are in a differenttime than it was when I was a
younger guy.
You're not meeting somebodyface-to-face anymore
Everything's online time than itwas when I was a younger guy.
You're not meeting somebodyface to face anymore.
Everything's online.
Um, and I think a big part ofthe problem is most of these
younger guys don't have mentorsand older men to kind of guide
them through and teach them.
What kennedy's saying is what agood mentor would say maybe a

(01:14:24):
middle, maybe a little moreempathetically, yeah,
empathetically well, sometimessome men need to hear that
something, some men need to hearit stop being a crybaby, shut
up and be a man, right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
So the the challenge, I'm like that, which is why I
completely agree with kennedy,because, yeah, I'm that type of
guy that you just like.
Maybe it's because I playedfootball or whatever, but you
just need to tell me I suck andto do better.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
What an HR manager you are.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
So in Zoomer's tweet he said they're acting like
these young guys.
These guys have no opportunity,they can't get a job, they
can't get a wife and they'reacting like we are the
oppressors.
So the real challenge for youngguys is to not see yourself as
the oppressed.
Okay, you have to fight that atevery.
Every desire like you cannotput yourself in the position as

(01:15:17):
whoa, like kennedy saying likeyou can't be, woe is me.
You cannot become the oppressed.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
I would say it's okay to recognize if you are being
oppressed, but you can't havethat victim mentality.
If you're being oppressed,accept it in, in, overcome it
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
So I would say that feeling of being oppressed is
marxism.
It's they're trying to playwith your mind.
They're trying to put it's justpeople that have a victimhood
mentality.
It destroys their whole life.
Like it will destroy you.
You will think you can't getahead in anything there's there.
You cannot allow that toovercome you and you have to
have uh, first of look it's likeyour intel stuff right you're

(01:15:56):
most likely a young white male.
You have young white maleprivilege.
Like own it, like yeah, you'renot using, not use your young
white male.
You can go beat without gettingyour car searched.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Come on we don't get by the cops all right nick, I
know you're gonna talk what Iwas just gonna say is so, okay,
I agree with you guys on forsure you don't want to adopt a
victimhood mentality, becauseyou'll carry the mentality with
you no matter where you go orwhat you do, and that's that's
an actual issue, because that it, it is like a uniform that you

(01:16:29):
embrace, it's a, it's aworldview that you see the world
outside of, and that's an issuein this world is suffering a
lot from groups of people withvictim mentalities exactly,
fully, fully agree with that.
What I would say with kennedy is, I would say kennedy, I agree
with him mostly in this, like inthe spirit.
But I would also say there'sone big glaring thing, which is

(01:16:51):
that there is a real issue withhow my generation of men are
struggling right now.
So again, as an example, why isit that 66% of men, 18 to 29,
are single, but only 34% ofwomen are single?

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Because most women are because of this.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Yeah, they're going after older guys.
They're going after older guysor they're becoming lesbians.
They're they're actually goinginto one of those two directions
.
So they're wanting either whatkind of like this exaggerated
notion of love and stuff is, sothey'll kind of go after guys
that can give them a bunch ofmonetary stuff immediately, or
they're just, you know, theyhate men and they go become

(01:17:32):
lesbians or whatever.
So there's that there's alsofor men.
In the United States particular,we don't have a whole lot of
culture that we can cling on to.
This is why you see a lot ofguys at the TLM, a lot of single
guys at TLM.
At Orthodoxy and in Islam,they're going after something
that wants to call them greater,and then they are also, by
culture, essentially told thatthey are the dregs of society,
until, of course, the KamalaHarris campaign needs them to
vote for them, and so mypushback would be essentially

(01:17:56):
this I agree with you.
You don't want to have avictimhood mentality, but you
also have to recognize thatthere are lots of guys I know
them who are really good guys,who are striving to get good
jobs, striving to be men ofvirtue, striving to be good
Catholics.
They can't find anybody to savetheir life, and that's an
actual systemic issue that wehave.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
It's not exactly a good pool of women out there for
you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
No, no, that's why that's why I don't like the
whole.
Just we'll go out and find one.
It's like what do you thinkwe've been doing?
I could literally give you anentire two-hour story of every
single time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
This is where the Groiper incel mentality fails.
They want good, submissive,traditional women, but they
don't want to water down thewhite race, so they won't go to
Asia to find them.
Yeah, how much didul get you tosay that rob how much.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Oh, that's right.
Oh, my gosh, how much did hesay, paying you to say that I
got a lot of crap the other daybecause you and I were giving
like prudential, non-definitiveadvice on miscegenation and we
were just like, hey, you know,maybe it's not.
You guys are racist.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
If my wife wasn't willing to marry a brown man,
where would I be right now?
I don't like.
I don't like this talk.
My wife was a was a racial,don't be it.
Don't be a cuck, anthony, don'tbe um, and somebody said
something about kennedy's beardI.
This is where the beef is goingto come in, because have you
guys ever seen Kennedy withouthis beard Weak?
That boy's got a beard to hidehis weak chin.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
I was going to say I think I've seen him with a short
beard, but not like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
We have a screenshot he shaved once.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
He looked like a different guy.
He had this weak chin.
I'm going to shave again soonFor Kennedy man.
Like a different guy, he hadthis weak chin like I'm.
I'm gonna shave again soon.
Anthony man, I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
You thank god you got that longbeard because we know what you
look like under there, notfooling anybody.
Um, all right, we're gonna wrapthis up because I have to get
up early tomorrow.
Um, we'll see how this one does.

(01:20:04):
So tuesday we want to do thathalloween show.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
Halloween show, I think when do you uh leave
anthony so that rob and I canstart planning for shows?

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
because so I got, I, I'm leaving.
I'm not going to be around forthe thursday after election day,
gotcha.
Uh, we could just skip thatshow or maybe do a sunday
tuesday show that week yeah, wecan.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
We can figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
I just know that when you're gone.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
I have two very, very spicy topics that Rob will love
.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Yeah, I'm leaving December 2nd.
I'll be gone December 2nd andI'll be gone until the 15th.
So I'm going to miss four shows.
So if you guys even want to doone a week, rob me and you.
We have to have content comeout while I'm gone.
So I don't know we can.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
We can maybe repost some of the the best of type
shows we can.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
We can post a video of you destroying the art over
there I'm gonna try to pop stufflike that up like little clips
of our trip there me making funof the rupnik art, things like
that.
I'll see if me and Patrick canmaybe do a live stream, but it's
going to be Italy time so Idon't know how that's going to
work.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
We could even throw together I'm going to hate
saying this we could throwtogether a trivia episode.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
How much didn't we get like less than a thousand
views on that video.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
The fans love it.
The hardcore fans love it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
It keeps the algorithm kind of going.

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
Yeah, civil War for sure.
Great replacement theory forsure.
More in depth to ourconversation.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Don goes the best of.
That's not going to get youthrough two weeks.
He's right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
That's great Is Don, the one that goes to uh mass
with you, anthony don is thefunniest like he's the wittiest
funniest person you'll ever meetonline in real life.
He's so such an introvert likehe doesn't after mass, I try to

(01:22:05):
talk.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
He's been on the show twice and he said less words
than me.
He doesn't he's, but he remindsme of you, like he's't.
After mass, I try to talk.
He's been on the show twice andhe said less words than me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
He doesn't he's, but he reminds me of you, like he's.
He's very quiet and reserves.
He's not a.
He's not a big talker, you know, but, um, all right, so we're
gonna wrap this up.
I gotta get some sleep.
Um, we will see you guys ontuesday.
We'll do some halloween stuff,maybe.
Uh, maybe I'll do some readingbefore that one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
We could do.
We could do faith and filmepisodes while Anthony's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Maybe Father Nix could step up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Yeah, or we could have Father Nix on to talk about
organ donation while Anthony'sgone.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Why don't you guys do this?
Why don't you have Father Nixon and just do a theology show?

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Yeah.
We'll say we're doing theology,but then we'll do the civil war
force him to talk.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
You got four episodes you could do, so why don't you
at least see if father nix willdo something with you, the three
of you?
And because you guys could dosome tomism and, you know, get
into moral theology, stuff likethat.
Maybe you guys get some superchats, something.
But all right, I I do have togo to bed, so let let's wrap
this up.
Okay, we're leaving now, y'allSee ya.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Thank you.

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