The Papacy During 5th Generation Warfare

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Sancte, sancte, amare morti necradas nos In teis per
a verand.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Michael Jordan is the goat of basketball.
To me, there is no doubt aboutit.
It's not even a close race.
Let's be honest.
As everyone knows, I was bornin Chicago and I got to witness
Jordan go undefeated in thefinals.
And the second guy in the GOATdebate, lebron James I think the
kids call him Le Diddy James orLeBarbie Diddy James or
something like that.
I have no idea why they callhim that, but that's besides the

(00:59):
point.
But yeah, lebarbie Diddy Jameshas six finals losses, so he
could never be the GOAT.
Maybe he can be a GOAT on afarm, I don't know, but
definitely not on a basketballcourt.
But the only player that comesclose to Michael Jordan in the
GOAT debate is probably BenSimmons.
The way he airballs those jumpshots is something to behold.

(01:21):
The perfect shooting form withthe perfect follow through.
Man is he?
fun to watch out there,especially when he refuses to
take wide-open layups.
That tells me he doesn't wantto watch Just bizarre Like it is
.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
So the mouth everything.
Oh, welcome to Babylon, the bigtown.
Everybody Forgot about that.
Oh my God, dude, that bit wasfun, man, I needed a good laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
That was good.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, this papacy is bananas already.
Why are you so zoomed in?
Your head looks giganticcompared to mine?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, because with the new camera setup, when I
zoom out I feel like I'm too farzoomed out.
Hold on, I'll show you youmuted yourself.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
No, that's because I was telling you I zoom out.
I feel like I'm too too farzoomed out.
Hold on, I'll show you.
You muted yourself.
No, that's because I wastelling you to zoom out.
That looks, that looks better,way better.
Okay, fine, fine, I think.
So, I think it looks way better.
The weird influence the thing issomebody.
Somebody pointed out the go.
Gotta be honest, I'll be notgonna get better than that last
episode.

(02:30):
Dr taffy is marshall.
We shouldn't be people.
Is that a black taylor?
This is crazy.
Um, um, all right, let's see.
What did Bobby just say?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
My brother, asked me whether I would rather look like
Jar Jar Binks or talk like JarJar Binks for the rest of my
life.
I told him I'd rather talk likeJar Jar, and I can just move to
Hawaii and be a pigeon preacher.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
That's everybody's pointing that out.
I never.
I know I don't remember Jar JarBinks.
I did watch that when it cameout.
I remember everybody flippingout because they hated that
character so much, but I don'tremember it like well enough.
Like I thought he said likemisa, like misa too.
You know it talks like that.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
But misa, just a construction worker yeah, this
is just misa, just a high schooldropout that I that I remember.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Um, dude, it's this.
This papacy is bizarre to me.
Like I'm not knocking it oneway or the other, but it just
seems weird to watch both sideshighlight certain things pope
leo says and claim them forhimself.
It's a strange thing.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
One side is going to give up eventually.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
It is.
It is really, really weird.
So the the reason I wanted totalk about this topic, even
though, is because my mothersent me a clip of hope Leo
speaking about the end times,and it's from this channel.
Pope Leo, what is it, leo?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
something.
Um, let me guess you only knewit was fake when he brought up
laditty james no, that was.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
That was totally different.
This was I think it's pope leosermons.
Yeah, that's what?
That's what you sent me popeleo sermons, um, and when you go
into the videos, I hope that.
I hope the channel gets takendown, because it's like pope's
wake up, urgent call to all truechristians, warning jesus is

(04:38):
coming soon.
Like it's crazy stuff and ifyou go, it's got 275 000 views
on it and I mean, it sounds likeit was just written by
christine watkins that's.
That's basically what it soundslike, and all the comments are
I'm not christian, I'm notcatholic, but I'm christian, and
this message spoke volumes tome.
I've not heard a pope speaklike this and try to wake people

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up the way that this one is.
Thank you, pope leo, for themessage that I needed today.
It's just clearly AI.
It's like not even.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Lee off behind the off.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
And then you have like, even as far as today I
watched you want to bring upmodern tweet.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
He's worse than Lofton.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, yeah for sure.
But Lofton too.
We'll talk about him too,because even he pointed out it's
like Pope Leo mentionedsomething about feeling the
spirit of Pope Francis fromheaven and Lofton, right away,

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is like do you think Pope Leo isgoing to canonize Pope Francis?
It's like man, can we just havelike five minutes Like man?
Can we just have like fiveminutes?
Can we have five minutes wherewe get to enjoy like the new
Pope for a little bit?
So read the Catholic Arenatweet first.
So Cardinal Arena has beenappointed as head of the John

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Paul II Institute for Marriageand the Family.
Pope Leo has decided to removeArchbishop Paglia, who had
pursued a more controversial andliberal course.
So I'm watching both sides ofthis right.
So modern Boethius says this isgreat news for fans of Pope
Francis.

(06:36):
It means Pope Leo is pickingpro-Pope Francis candidates for
his curia.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Cardinal Raina famously called Pope Francis a
great prophet and lambasted thecriticism against him, pope
francis, a great francis, agreat prophet, and lambasted the
criticism against, regardlessof what what reina may have
called francis.
How can you say he's pickingpro francis candidates when he
literally sacked the personfrancis chose?

Speaker 4 (06:55):
well, the person francis chose is now 80 years
old, and what it looks like leodid was just go back to putting
so.
John paul ii had institutedthis position as whoever's like
the vicar general of rome orsomething is supposed to get it,
and that's what cardinal reinais.
He just happens to hold thatposition.

(07:17):
So I don't even think this pickwas ideological in any way.
I don't think it was in any way.
I think it's just pagley is 80.
He stepped down and he put theguy who is supposed to
officially be in that positionin the position.
But you watch, modern boethiusthinks it's a win for pope
francis.
And then you go to damianthompson's tweet okay, give me a

(07:38):
second yeah, we do have to talkabout the triad recovery,
cancellation too.
So then you.
Then you look at damianthompson's tweet and it's a

(08:01):
major setback for the pro-choicelobby.
It's like the same exact personwas appointed, but the one
side's claiming him and theother side's claiming him and I
I I called this the cafeteriapapacy, because everybody seems
to just he'll give um, like anaddress to people and he'll say

(08:23):
something a little bit positiveabout francis and some people
will jump on that and highlightthat, and then he'll say
something that sounds, uh, likea nod towards tradition and the
traditionalist will highlightthat and everybody it's it's.
It's just weird to me, like Idon't know either way, because
he hasn't really said anythingof substance yet, so I'm kind of

(08:43):
just sitting back and watchingthe commentary.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, it's been 10 days yeah.
You know, but so you know,before the, before the conclave,
remember, we covered thatarticle from the leftist
decrying how the conservativeswere calling for unity, Right
yeah, and the one thing we seemto know about robert prevost

(09:06):
prior to being leo is that hewas a peacemaker, and I mean it
seems to be that that's onereason why he was was seemingly
chosen by some of theconservative, you know,
candidates was to be that sortof unifying peacemaker.
So I I don't think we'regetting anything surprising.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, he's playing it very safe so far right, but
there's also a level of likehe's going to try to make a
hermeneutic of continuity of thecouncil and fit Francis into it
right.
So the trads were all hopingthey were going to get like a
swift condemnation of all thethings francis said, that's not
going to happen, would you?

(09:50):
I don't even know if you wouldhave forgotten that under burke
or sarah yeah, I don't knoweither maybe, but I don't know
yeah you, you would have gottenimmediately, I think, uh, the,
uh, I think the biggies fromguys like that for sure.
So I think what Leo is going totry and do is synthesize it all

(10:12):
in a way that makes sense.
But I haven't seen any actualolive branches to the trads yet.
I've seen some nice uh gesturesliturgically.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I've seen a more return, like a return to more um
, like do you think when hebrought up you know peter being
the shepherd but not, uh, anautocrat?
Do you think that was a shot atfrancis?

Speaker 4 (10:41):
uh, so I?
That's the other thing like.
So I saw some people from thatvery address point out he talked
about francis and synodality.
So, like the, the guys on thatside were pointing that out.
And then the guys on our sidewere like he's, he's giving a
rebuke to francis, dealing as anautocrat, now I don't know.
And then I saw thursday pointedout this is probably a knock

(11:02):
towards trump.
Like I don't.
I don't know is the point.
I saw Thursday pointed out thisis probably a knock towards
Trump.
Like I don't know is the point.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
It could be that too, could be all three, who knows?

Speaker 4 (11:12):
I just don't know, man.
It just seems kind of weird tome.
You know, it's like it's goingto be interesting to watch this
unfold because I want to see howhe tries.
Going to be, uh, interesting towatch this unfold because I
want to see how he tries,because, like, like we we've
said before like, uh, synodalityin and of itself is not
inherently bad.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Like he could continue with synodality and
just pull some really based ifit's a, if it's like a, if he
actually does it in the thetraditional sense, where it's
hierarchical and it's meant tobe done by bishops in a local
region.
That sense of synods would befine.

(11:53):
Especially, he said today oneof his priorities is
reunification with the East.
So holding synods in that sensewith with eastern bishops and
western bishops who knows, Idon't know, I, I doubt it, right
, I, it probably is going to bemore of the same, but I don't

(12:13):
know, I think, I think it's.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
I think it's one of those things where, uh, this
will continue until until, like,something clarifies, like
you're gonna get a clarifyingmoment, if nothing else he takes
great pictures.
He's far more photogenic thanfrancis far more photogenic and
he's far more uh.
He's like there is a dignitybrought back to the sea of of

(12:37):
rome, right, there's like.
There's like there's a dignitybrought back there.
He's not like you.
If you remember the first uhcouple of the first two weeks of
the francis punter like thefirst day it was can you believe
he went and paid his own hotelbill.
He's just like jesus, like allthat stuff was just so crazy and

(12:57):
we haven't seen any.
We haven't seen any likerevolutionary moves either.
He's just.
He seems to be paying lipservice to both sides right now
and trying to maintain peace,but I I don't know how that
stays and I'm just, I'minterested, I mean, how this
unfolds I think we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't know I you know I wasn't a trap.
I was.
I was a kid back during jp2,yeah.
So I don't know what you knowthe, the trad movement was, was
like back then.
Um, I don't know what it waslike, even under benedict.
But so say, we get someone alot like jp2 which seems to be
probably the case, right, um,something along those lines like

(13:41):
that's a heck of a heck, a lotbetter than francis.
So we should still call out,say, errors like assisi and you
know the errors that jp2 had.
We need to be ready for those.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
But, man, I would take something like that over
the last 12 years yeah, so look,he's already doing the
ecumenism thing right, and Ithink ecumenism is the biggest
problems of the council.
Yeah, I think it's like thebiggest problem of the council
because it distorts the it, it,it.
It kind of makes no sense tosay extra Ecclesiam, nullus

(14:16):
Salus, and the ecumenism, like,unless you're trying to bring
those groups into union withRome properly.
This, this whole stance towardsother faiths, trying to bring
those groups into union withRome properly, this, this whole
stance towards other faiths.
I don't know how that works andI don't know how you have even
unity with the East.
The one thing I got from theUbi Petra's voice of reason

(14:37):
debate is Holy Cow, our debate'sboring.
I'm not even.
I know I couldn't get throughfive minutes of it and and I'm
watching people like theorthodox like how could you
still be catholic after thisdebate?
And I'm watching catholic, howcould you still be orthodox
after this debate?
And I'm saying how the hell canyou even be awake after this
debate?
It was the most boring and theywent on for four hours.

(14:59):
I don't even know how they didit.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I try watching great little little short clip.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I don't know how anybody could sit through it.
Man, it's just I don't know.
It seems ridiculous to me, butI swear I told myself it was so
boring I had to turn.
It was just so boring, like Ijust I tried.
I don't.
I wanted to see if there's anygood arguments against the
orthodox or that is just asnooze fest.
Uh, timu rocky is definitelynot a charismatic as the

(15:29):
original.
Um, yeah, I don't know.
I don't even know what got meon that.
Oh so, like the ecumenism thingwith the east, yeah, I don't
know how that works because theeast doesn't unify with the east
and stuff.
Like you might get a bishop ortwo that wants to come in to
union with Rome or a patriarchor something.
I think the lady will lose theirminds if they did that.

(15:51):
Like there was.
I think Bobby was telling methat there was a point in time
where, like there was an Easternpatriarch who wanted to come
back into communion with Romeand the lady went crazy.
It was Florence.
Yeah, communion with Rome andthe laity went crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
It was Florence.
So Florence is held to try toquickly get Western support over
to Constantinople.
So Florence is held.
The East does come back intocommunion.
They accepted basicallyeverything, but the laity had an

(16:25):
uproar, especially inConstantinople, and we ended up
not getting forces toConstantinople in time.
So Constantinople falls, butyeah, so after Florence there
was reunification and the Greeksjust would not have it.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, I think I would.
I would really like to see thepope focus on the diocese of
rome and to fix up the curia andworry about the how, the
problems in-house, before goingon this quest.
You know what I mean.
Like this, this quest to forthe.

(17:06):
The one good thing is he hasn'tsaid like.
He said like universalfraternity, but he doesn't mean
human fraternity the way francisdid.
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I hope not I really hope not.
Um, if he's talking about justchristian brotherhood, you know,
unified of course under actual,like good doctrine, then that's
fine and there is a level oflike living amongst one another,
who have differing views in thecurrent world.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
I can understand like you have to live in peace with
your, you know, with yourneighbor, whether they are
catholic or not.
Like you know, we're not in thetimes of, uh, you know, queen,
queen anne, or whatever.
Queen mary, queen mary whereshe's like queen elizabeth after
queen mary mary and yeah,whatever, I'm just trying to

(17:56):
spit bowl after four hours ofsleep last night, but, um, we're
not living in those times wherewe want, you know, beheadings
and things like that.
So I understand there is a needto live peacefully with your
neighbor, whether you guys arethe same faith or not.
But I just want to see the Popekind of focus on his Catholic
children and just kind of takestock of us and focus on us.

(18:17):
You know, it would just be notI got it Like you're saying it's
going to be a John Paul thethird.
It would just be.
Not I got it Like you're sayingit's.
It's going to be a John PaulIII.
I don't want another Popethat's gallivanting around the
world, I agree, while whileeverything collapses inside the
church because you know he's offevangelizing Like it is a great
thing, but it would be, itwould be much healthier.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, If he just stayed in Rome While he was busy
traveling the world andfighting communism, you know
things busy, traveling the worldand fighting communism.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
You know things were building up to 2002.
Yeah, yeah, that's.
I mean, it's that's really whatwas happening.
So he's off traveling the worldand things under his watch got
horrific.
The seminaries were goinginsane.
They were showing horrificthings to the seminarians there.
There was children abused.
It was just like mayhem insidethe church and he's just off
trying to bring.

(19:08):
And we had this wholegeneration of JP2 Catholics that
came into the church becausethey saw the face of the Pope
and he was a force for good, butthe church itself was crumbling
while he was doing all that.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Darien Hall.
What is going on?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I don't know.
Now I gotta look and see ifthere's a kandarian hall.
Um yeah, there is a kandarianhall wow, wow guys what is that?
What do you mean this?
I mean this oh my god you know,it's someone switching back and

(19:52):
forth between a oh my god, thisis like me having fights myself
on twitter.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
It's amazing, oh, wow .
So, um, so, um, this show isamazing, um, so, yeah, I, I just
, I don't know man, I'm, I'mkind of well.
First of all, my, my priestgave a phenomenal homily this

(20:16):
Sunday and I'm like sitting nextto my wife and kids and I'm
like, pay attention, payattention.
He's sitting next to my wifeand kids and I'm like pay
attention, pay attention he's.
He gave this homily about peterand how satan is seeking to
sift him like wheat, and howthis pope needs our prayers more
than you can imagine and it wasjust, it made you so excited to

(20:37):
be catholic.
He's like he had, uh, in thebody, joe, joe was there, joe
was there, um, he just made it,he made you so excited joe was
there at the yeah joe's at adiocesan latin mass, sunday I
thought you said it was a novazordo.

(20:58):
No, it wasn't a nova zordo, itwas a diocesan latin mass.
No, I went to.
I, okay, went to confession inthe morning at a nova zordo.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, also, Istill go to.
No, I went to, I, okay, I wentto confession in the morning at
a nova sordo oh, okay, okay,okay also I still go to like I
went to confession on my localparish, um, and had a
conversation with the priest inthe confessional and was just

(21:19):
kind of talking to him about,like, my initial reaction and
you know, um, just some of thethings I've said to people in
private before you know anythingis like I I felt felt guilty
about giving people who don'tpay attention to this stuff a
bad impression of the popebefore he had even taken office
right and this was a novus ordopriest and he, he was like I'm

(21:43):
going to be honest with you, thelast 12 years were pretty
traumatic for all of us and Ithink that your initial
instincts were not justified,but understandable, and he was
very understanding about it.
It was a pretty interestingconversation with this priest.

(22:04):
It was.
It was a pretty interesting, uhconversation with this priest
and, uh, he, he told me not tobe too harsh on myself because
of a sort of priest.
No, I'm just kidding.
Uh, it was just.
It was really enlightening,just because we don't think
about how hard your typicalparish priest has it.
Like our your typical parishpriest on under francis was

(22:25):
struggling, man, it was.
It was pretty difficult.
You know, these guys are tryingto preach the faith and they
were getting conflictingmessages from rome.
And my co-host just disappearedand, um, yeah, so the the priest
was pretty understanding of itand, uh, it was just an
interesting conversation.
But then I went to um, to masson sunday and the priest was

(22:51):
just talking about how, like thewhole world looks to rome yeah,
whether whether they understandwhy or not, like it's just like
all eyes are on rome duringthis conclave and the rituals we
do in the white smoke coming up, that all eyes are just trained
on Rome.
And it's this, this subtlething that the world understands

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.
How goes Rome, goes the world,you know, and even the Orthodox
and the Protestants, all of themunderstand it is very important
who becomes the Bishop of Rome,because if the church crumbles
on some of these important moralissues, it gives like the

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culture doesn't care what yourProtestant sect teaches on
rainbow issues at all.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
They don't care that the Anglican church ordains
women to the bishops care thatthe anglican church ordains
women to the bishops.
It makes no news when pastorbob at the fourth baptist church
, you know, says something crazy.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
It just doesn't matter to them.
Um yeah, no, joe, joe, joe, uh,joe, that's why I was confused
I've never seen joe at an oversort of, but I but he does.
He does go to the diocese latinmass, um, mainly because the
sspx is too early and he's alazy.
He's a lazy bum and our, ourdiocese advance is at 12 30, so
it's like he would probably goto the society, but he's like I

(24:19):
just wanted to sleep in.
Fair enough, it is nice havinga 12 30 latin mass, that's, and
that's that's the closer one too.
So it's all it's every otherweek.
So I get to.
It's only 25 minutes from myhouse, which is amazing.
So compared to the hour I driveto go to the other one and
that's at 11, so I gotta leaveat 10 30 to get there at 11 30.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I don't get home to like three in the afternoon if I
go to the other one yeah, see,see, for us, our last mass is at
one, which sucks when it's twohours away, because you're
leaving home at 1030.
And if you do nothing else, youknow you're getting back at 435
.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
It's.
It's, yeah, like that two and ahalf hour, two and a half hours
of commute for Mass on Sundayis doable, like we do it, but
it's, you know, it puts a wrenchin your Sunday.
You're not going to be able todo much else with the family
other than Mass that day.
Yeah, so it is nice when it'sthe closer one, and this priest

(25:20):
is.
I want to get him on the show,just because every homily is a
history lesson and an ecclesiallesson mixed in one.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
It will be interesting to see if we start
to see more just usual diocesanpriests willing to go on
podcasts now.
Yeah, I don't think theynecessarily should.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I think there's a lot of.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
I think they shouldn't.
I think the bishops and I thinkthe bishops need to start
talking with us, because I dothink there's an unhealthy
separation between trads and thehierarchy that needs to be
addressed.
But, like I said, we stilldon't know where this papacy is
going to go.
Like we just don't, andeverybody jumping on everything.
My goodness, trentarius changedmy youtube date for this and

(26:11):
now I have to wait 14 days tochange it back lord of the rings
?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I do not.
That would be the secondclosest parish, but that would
be a four hour one way driveinstead of two hours.
We're north of Duluth, so we goto St Benedict's in Duluth.
Yes.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Um, I love it.
I love that you.
You got to go into Trent's.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I hope it's like Kennedy or someone Trentarius
horn broadcasting is Kennedyhall.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
So should we do?
Should we do the vanity fairarticle?
I mean, we should probablyaddress the vanity fair article.
It is, it is my first quote ina mainstream publication.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I got a call from my mom.
I read it.
Read about anthony and vanityfair.
I'm so glad it wasn't your namein there.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
I'm like, yeah mom, me too they picked some quote,
boy I'll tell you like, of allthe things I said, that show,
that's the one they pulled outdid you send the article in the
yeah, it's in there, it's aboveum, should protestants root for
the new pope?
because we're going to get intothat too.
Um, I I saw a protestantpodcast discussing should
protestants root for the newpope and I thought it was an

(27:32):
interesting segment that we cantalk, we could talk about.
Does my mom know yet?
Yes, my mom, my mom, wasn'tcrazy about the uh language in
it, but uh, she was moreconcerned with, like, was it
good coverage or bad coverage?
Like she's like, are theytrashing you?
I'm like no, I don't think so.
Like it seemed like a prettybalanced article.

(27:54):
They were, you know, but theydidn't just quote me, they even
mentioned our show title you gotit.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, it just took forever because you send me
everything in the world well,there's a lot to talk about and
it's just me and you.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
We don't have nick to .
Oh, we got a nick update.
Well, we do have a nick update.
I'm just kidding guys.
Uh, at least they didn't callme a bottle, because they did
the last time they it wasnational national catholic
reporter mentioned me in anarticle and they they spelled my

(28:33):
last name wrong and then, whenI pointed it out, they go.
We will get right on correctingthat, sir.
We apologize and they did theyfixed it.
Yeah, they did make me look abit uncouth.
So, um, the catholic right isdeeply divided over pope leo and
what his papacy will do afteran initial maga freak out.

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A number of francis antagonistsappear open to his successor,
though, as leo performedperforms his inaugural mass this
sunday with jd vance on hand.
Uh, some church watchers warnthat conservative tolerance is
unlikely to last.
Now, I'm not sure it's theconservative tolerance that'll

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unlikely to last, or if it's theother side still, we're still
just kind of in a wait and seemode.
When Pope Francis died themorning after Easter, prominent
right-wing Catholics leapt atthe chance to lobby for a more
conservative, even Trumpianleader of the church, far-right
pundit, jack Posobiec, broadcastthe call for traditionalist
Catholics to hop a flight toRome right now, go into St

(29:36):
Peter's Square and start takingup space.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
No one in the Catholic world cares what Jack
Posobiec thinks.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah he is a right-wing commentator, if
anything.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't see him as a catholic comment, no, he's an
american conservativeconservative and quotes.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Um well, I do find it interesting that he will call
out things about the papacy butnever, ever would he touch trump
, you know, and it's like atleast have some consistency.
I mean, there's, there's thingsin like.
One of the things I'm hoping toget from this papacy is maybe
like some corrections intrumpism, because there are

(30:16):
errors.
There are some errors that needto be corrected.
Um so, boomers would.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
That would cause a boomer schism.
You know, like what?
Uh, what's his name was talkingabout?

Speaker 4 (30:28):
who's?
Steve bannon?
No, larry chapp, oh larry, yeah.
Um, now is the time for atraditional ascendance, because
we are, we are in a traditionalawakening here in the western
church.
Steve bannon, who hadcastigated francis for years,
similarly, similarly, vowed toorganize an online show of force
.
Get rid of that.
An online show of force fortraditionalists.

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Ahead of the conclave.
They go into the conclave andthere's nothing your online show
of force is going to do forthat.
In Rome, catholic rightjournalists distributed a report
to cardinals profiling leadingpeople, candidates from Palpably
.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Palpably.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I thought it was going for papabile, but no yeah,
palpably conservativeperspective, while US Catholic
right philanthropist courtedchurch leaders at upscale
gatherings with one VIP sayingtheir network could raise a
billion to help the church, solong as we have the right Pope.
That's kind of blackmail.
It really is, isn't it rightpope?
That's kind of blackmail, itreally is isn't it?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
yeah, it's kind of blackmail, like could you not
raise a few billion to buildsome nice like churches for
traditional orders on?

Speaker 4 (31:37):
I do understand the sentiment, right like if you had
a conservative pope in there,people, the money would flow in
from conservatives.
So but on may 8th, when the new,when the new Pope, when the new
Pope, the conclave of chosenPope Leo the 14th formerly
Chicago, born Robert Prevost uh,and the original and the first
us born in two millennia ofchurch history appeared on the

(31:59):
Vatican balcony, instead, theCatholic rights fervor shifted
to despair and alarm.
I can't believe the Cardinalsdid this at popular
traditionalist podcast a Taylor.
I can't believe the Cardinalsdid this, said popular
traditionalist podcaster TaylorMarshall, author of the 2019
book, arguing that the electionof the late Pope Francis was
part of a century-old plot toundermine the church.
As more than 100,000 viewerstuned into his live stream, leo

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was definitely could be a longone.
Marshall's audience chimed inwith their own lamentations that
the Vatican had buckedconventional wisdom in picking
an American pope so he could gohead to head with Donald Trump
or fight to restore funding forCatholic relief work.
The Trump administration hadcut out that the Pope Trump
stunt Trump, declaring himselfhis own first pick for pontiff,

(32:47):
subsequently posting an aigenerated image of himself in
full people regalia like that.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
That, I think, is all .
The cardinals didn't care onebit about that.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
I promise you that, like no, but I do think you
could scroll down like let's getdown, to let me say this is a
long, it's a very long article,so let's go.
Yeah, let's go, let's go waydown um I do think that, um, I
think you saw what, yeah, wherethe michael matt thing starts.
So, um, I do think that thisguy, this guy, but I do think

(33:18):
pope leo was selected because oftrump in part, like I do think
they wanted, and I and I dothink that it has a lot to do
with the, the media in America,because it's such a powerful
force, the media apparatus ofAmerica.
It runs the English-speakingmedia, realm right voices,

(33:49):
counsel patients.
Michael matt, editor of theremnant, urged followers to
consider how a centrist popemight keep the traditionalist
catholic movement united,avoiding the factionalization
that could follow the electionof a more conservative pope.
Other commentators in and outof the church proclaim leo's
election an intentional rebukeof the mega movement.
Far-right social mediapersonality mike cernovich are
right leo uh s lib trump allylaura loomer went with woke

(34:11):
marxist pope.
Anyone's uh s lib, it's mikecernovich, and so is laura
loomer.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, I mean, come on laura loomer talking about
marxist pope.
You're literally at never mind,never mind, yeah and his live
stream from rome.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Shortly after leo was announced, pasovic said the
choice of an american pope isclearly a reaction to President
Trump.
Marshall suggested Leo'selection was an intentional
effort to force US trads into achoice.
We, as Catholics, are going tobe pitted against an American
pope and the American president,and I feel the liberals, the
bishops, the priests are goingto be pushing us.
Which one are you for?
Do you support your presidentor do you support your pope?

(34:46):
Bannon reportedly declaredLeo's the worst pick for MAGA
Catholics and an anti-Trump popeselected by globalists that run
the Curia, subsequently tellinga Financial Times audience to
laughter that the conclave wasmore rigged in the 2020 election
and would soon cause a schism.
And then, almost overnight, thenarrative seemed to change.

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On Friday, marshall's videoresponding on Leo's election was
no longer public on YouTube.
In an earlier video, marshallhad also declared Prevost
potentially the worst casescenario.
He posted a new recording thatbegan with the words I submit
myself to his holiness Pope LeoXIV After prayer.
He said his initial shock hadgiven way to a sense of
encouragement, and he remindedlisteners of historical cases

(35:27):
where popes elected as liberalreformers had unexpectedly
become staunch conservatives,noting that leo's papacy might
last 20 years.
He said leo needs to know thattraditional catholics are
praying for him, that we wishhim the best.
Um, okay, I think we still gota ways to go.
We this is a.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
This article was too long.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Oh, this is where they mention our name, though.
No, no, go back up no, it's notyeah, yeah, other catholic
right podcasts issued where theymentioned our title yeah, and
retractions for their initialresponse to the news declaring a
ceasefire and traditionalistdecade-long war against the
hierarchy of the church, withone titling, an episode
softeningening Our Trad Heartsto Leo XIV.
That was our show.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
That was my title.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
I think I originally titled it Trad Softening their
Hearts to Leo or something, andRob switched it up Shortly after
Leo's papacy was announced.
two of the most conservativecardinals, Raymond Burke and
Seurat let's go down, becausethis really isn't really, really
really we'll just go until Isee an interesting name like

(36:34):
father nicks father nicks andother of trad favorite clerics
wrote in a blog on sunday thatwhat he saw coming down the pike
in rome is more promotion ofthe heresy of religious
indifferentism.
He's not necessarily wrong.
The heresy of religiousindifferentism?
He's not necessarily wrong.
The heresy all religions willget you to heaven, usually put
onto the pretext of the hijackedword ecumenism.

(36:54):
But this time with a littlemore Latin, a little more
incense and a little moremeekness than before.
I don't care how nice this Popeis, I don't care how much gold
he has on, or, or his or hisring or any of that stuff, said
another trad podcaster, timothyGordon.
I want the Latin mass, but Idon't want the Latin mass traded
for homo stuff.
I don't want the Latin mass forAmoris Laetitia being here to

(37:15):
stay referencing Francis'apostolic exhortation for
divorce and remarried Catholicsto receive communion.
He's going to trick a bunch oftrads, gordon continued.
And then, truly, guys like youand I are going to be vox
clemontis in deserto, voices inthe wilderness.
But exactly that thought seemedto be in mind for some of those
calling for uh.

(37:36):
So that was michael matt.
Uh as michael matt, or whatever, or as or as anthony abadi,
host of the podcast avoiding,babylon put it.
I also don't want him to comeout.
I also don't want to come outbashing him and ruin gestures
he's giving by giving him themiddle finger.
And then he says okay, well,you know what?
Maybe Francis was right topunish you a-holes.
I don't remember saying that onair.

(37:57):
And then it goes right intoMike Lewis and he says I
actually agree with Mike here.
I can't see this last thing.
Co-founder for Catholic Outlawwhere Peter is, care, I can't
see this last thing.
Co-founder for catholic outletwhere peter is, which spent many
years of francis's papacytracking the catholic rights
attacks on the pope.
For one thing, over the last 12years, the reactionary
opposition to pope francis hadreached a boiling point and it

(38:17):
would be so hard to simply turnoff the heat.
We've seen we don't need.
Yeah, so I, I, I am curious tosee how this plays out.
Man, I, I'm just, I'm not, I'mnot really taking a side in any
of it, I'm just watching it playout.
But I am seeing like a lot ofpeople say calling, calling
trads, like semi trads, andthey're like who got?

(38:39):
Who got the?
Uh, who who sent out themessage to trad ink?
Like that they need to standdown.
But I don't think that's.
I don't think that's any ofwhat's going on like.
What's going on is the catholicinstinct is to love the pope
and people want to love the pope, and as long as there are

(38:59):
signals coming that it's goingto be better than the last 12
years, we don't want to be seenas opposition to the Pope.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
So I think, especially when nothing has been
said or done yet.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Yeah, it's like you give the guy a little bit of a
respite and a little bit of aperiod to settle in and we
figure out what he's going to do.
Um, I don't remember sayingthat famous last words Okay,
yeah, oh, hold on.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
To be fair, this isn't really how it's famous
last words Okay, yeah, oh, holdon.
To be fair, this isn't reallyhow it's supposed to work.
It's supposed to work theopposite way you love and pray
for him and you do trust himuntil he proves otherwise.
That's the way it's supposed towork with the hierarchy and
even um.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Like this is like okay, so this is like our 15th
show about the Pope and like Robtext me early is like dude,
we're done with the Pope stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Please, can we do something else?

Speaker 4 (39:56):
This is probably going to be the last one.
It's just, oh, you know, unlesssome major thing happens, but
like it's getting, it's gettingold and it's you know, we just
got to kind of see what happens.
Yes, my poor mother, indeedthat woman.
So, you know, it's just stillin wait and see mode.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
He doesn't trust.
This is going to be the last.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Well, the thing I really did want to get into is
the title is this is going to bean interesting uh thing to, to,
to to watch in the age of aiand in fifth generational
warfare, because you're going tostart seeing people use ai to
make you think the pope saidsomething.

(40:41):
And it's getting so freakinggood that opening video, as
silly as that was, it's becauseit was silly that we all knew it
was ai but like the mouth movedperfectly in that video, it
looked legit.
So it's not just the voiceoversthat you're getting, because
usually you can tell by theinflection on those voiceovers
where it sounds kind of monotone, but they're getting really

(41:03):
good.
And if it's like that now, whatdo you think it's going to be
like in a year from now?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
because if you look at the difference in 2024 and
2025, it's a major difference Idon't know, it's, I don't know
which which is why we really doneed the church to to come out
and say something about ai rightwell, that's definitely that.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
But also there's going to have to be.
I see this as moving towardsdigital id.
Somehow it's like if you, ifyou, if, because ai is going to
get so good, you're going toneed to prove it's actually you
saying the thing, so you'regoing to need a way to prove
that to people, so you're goingto need some kind of a digital
identification makes you wonderif the proliferation of ai isn't

(41:50):
almost intended for that it's.
It just seems like that it's.
Things are going to get sochaotic going forward.
I don't see a way around it.
It's like you're going to seethings that you're going to go.
Is this real?
Is this not real?
So you're going to wait, likeif it's from the pope, you're
going to wait for, like if it'sfrom the Pope, you're going to
wait for the Vatican to put outa statement, but people are

(42:10):
going to be able to put out fakeVatican statements.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
It almost seems like it's intended to undo the
loosening of controls on themedia that the Internet has
created, right like the whole.
The whole media revolutionwe've seen with with podcasts
and an independent journalistand things like that, I think
could completely unravel whensuddenly you have to go to a

(42:37):
verified source to to getsomething you can believe isn't
ai there's enough audio of youand I out there that somebody
could just upload no, don't givethem idea, don't give taffy
ideas somebody could just uploadfiles of our voices and make us
say whatever the hell they wantmaybe you didn't say what they
said.
You said yeah, maybe that was aI, it is um.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
I don't know, man, it's getting a little bit scary
the way things are going soquickly.
Did you see um?
Did you see the?
Uh?
Did you see the scott um?
What's his name?

Speaker 1 (43:17):
scott adams video today oh yeah, he's dying of
cancer and he's going to end hislife wait, is he?

Speaker 4 (43:28):
I didn't hear that.
Yeah, dude, he's.
He's in california and he'sgonna end his life this summer.
He says scary stuff, man, scarystuff, scott adams.
Um, scott adams did the um the.
What cartoon was in the news?
Dilbert?
He's the guy who did the.
What cartoon was it Dilbert?

(43:48):
He's the guy who did theDilbert cartoons.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
And then he said the N-word once online.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
He became like a political commentator, you know,
and he just started speakinghis mind about stuff.
And then today he released avideo saying so we got the Biden
news today.
Right, the Biden has cancer.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, no, I think you maybe.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
I think maybe you got it wrong I think he said he
lives in california and he'sconsidering going out his own
way, and I think he was a littlecryptic about it.
But I'm pretty sure he talkedabout ending life on his own
terms and he's in californiawhere they allow that.
So, um, I'm I'm pretty sure youguys are wrong.

(44:41):
Everybody's saying I'm wrong,but I'm pretty sure what he was
saying is maybe I saw a fake AIat it.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I don't know.
I'm curious to what Adrianmeans when he says the chance to
do the funniest thing ever.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
So he announced this today because the Biden cancer
stuff came out today and I thinkhe figured that would kind of
get buried under that.
Because, dude, it is a strangething to be in this space where
you're, where you have a showand people know you and they
grow to love you and then you'regonna die in front of them.
It's not, it's not like workingfor nbc or cbs or something,

(45:22):
where you just disappear fromthe camera like they just
replace you suddenly, yeah likepeople are gonna watch your
progression into illness andspeaking of when anthony's gone
next week, we do havereplacements for him everyone.
I'm very easily replaceable,apparently.
Um the the.

(45:43):
The difference in shows likethis is you guys see a part of
our personalities that makes youactually feel like you're
hanging out with your friends.
It's not like watching abroadcast on the news.
Like you guys are interactingwith us, we're highlighting your
comments, we're having aconversation, and so if
something happens to one of us,it's you feel like you're losing

(46:05):
a friend, like I mean I.
It's weird because I think Ibumped into it's like um well,
you, you go well, I like Ibumped into somebody, a radio
personality that I listened toas as a kid.
I bumped into them one time inatlantic city and like I went
off and like, hey man, what'sgoing on?
Like he knew me and he's likewhat's, what's up?

(46:26):
I'm like, oh shit, you don'tknow me, I know you, and it's
like it's a weird thing thathappens.
Well, I I had somebody do thatto me after mass one day.
They were like it's so weirdbecause, like I know you, but
you don't know me.
You know it's.
It's an interesting phenomenawhere you're listening to
somebody and you you feel likeyou're just hanging out with
your friends, but we don't know,especially because all of you

(46:48):
have fake names and pfps andstuff, like they have the guys
we met in north carolina.
They had to tell me theirtwitter handle, like oh okay,
now I know who you are.
You know because most of usdon't put our actual pictures up
there and not our real names.
No, it wasn't mike princess.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Well, it's like everyone, um, what's his name
from?
Uh, uh, the, the outdoor boyschannel is uh, retiring, not
retiring, but just stoppingyoutube, you know, and like, oh,
I saw that clip today too,right, and, and I mean that
guy's not, they're not dying,but everyone feels like they're

(47:24):
losing someone you know, someone, they know yeah, that guy video
.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
He came out today and he's like okay.
So our channel now has like 12million subscribers.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Which they've gained in 18 months?

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Yeah, and it's getting to the point where we
can't go to the store and youhave to think about the
well-being of your family atthis point.
And do you want fame?
Because it's one thing to havelike a niche, little small
audience like we do, where it'slike oh, if I go to latin mass,
somebody will recognize me, yeahI mean, that's like it's like,
oh, if I go to a latin mass likesomebody there might recognize

(48:01):
me.
that's a very different thingthan you go into town if you
live in a small town and everysingle person in town town wants
a picture with you and stufflike that.
It's a totally different world.
That's like real fame for aperson like that to go get
thrown into that kind ofspotlight, like Rob hates it
when anybody comes up to himafter mass.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Okay, that's just because I'm introverted and
phlegmatic.
If anyone sees me, I'm notgoing like hate you.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
if you come up to me, I don't, it's okay, you can do
that I'm telling everyone if yousee rob, you go up and give him
a big hug.
He loves hugs.
Go up, give him a big bear hug.
He loves it.
Don't let him fool you, don'tlet him tell you he's an
introvert yeah, they, they knoweverything about me.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, I'm known as the guy who completes the uh,
the atf form super quickly yeah,well, this is not untrue,
though.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
What do you think you're like?
They think the persona is whoyou are in real life.
I mean, for an actor, obviouslynot but for us it really is
yeah, I'm not.
I'm not pretending to besomebody of that.
It's like if you meet me, I'mgoing to be exactly like this.
Like Bobby said when he wasplanning the trip to go to Italy

(49:17):
, he was like I could probablyhang out with that guy.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Anyway they're coming around, they're just becoming
friends.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Anthony is exactly the same person.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
As I try to warn Joe McClainan, who might see you
next weekend, right so okay.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
So, uh, thursday morning I'll be on anthony
stein's live show and then I'llbe on joe mclean's show with
michael hitchborn hosting,because joe mclean's in greece.
Joe mclean will be in mykonosthe day I get there, but I think
I'm gonna get there too late.
But I'm trying to see if I canhop the ferry to Patmos and see
Joe McLean, bishop Stricklandand their whole pilgrimage.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I don't know if it's going to work out All the
Africans hop ferries to EuropeRight, right.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
My people just blend in with all the immigrants.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
As I try to warn him, you actually tone it down a
little for the show You'reyou're more yourself in person.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
So, um, jacob said maybe I am is quoting him, but I
thought I heard him saying I'mmaybe.
Maybe I misheard it, maybe Idid, but it seemed like he was
implying like I'm gonna go outon my terms and um first italy,
then greece and then finally, uh, ants homeland in tunis,
tunisia um, so this is probablythe same video.

(50:35):
My mom sent me a video pope leothe 14th praising the ex-first
lady of brazil.
I told her it was fake.
No, it isn't.
Who would fake something likethat?
This is.
This is what we're talkingabout.
So especially the oldergeneration is going to fall
victim to this, because theydon't understand how good
technology is at this point fromthe hill article.
He also indicated that, sincehe lives in california, he plans

(50:57):
to take advantage of an of aidand dying drugs after he settles
his affairs there.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I knew I wasn't wrong if, if you're gonna do, why not
like I don't wrong.
If, if you're gonna do, why notlike I don't know?
It's all over twitter theeuthanasia go over to africa and
, you know, get a gun and try totake out some crazy local
warlord or something so jason'sgot me watching this guy who was

(51:24):
diagnosed with somethingterminal and he he bought a
sailboat and he's like sailingacross the fricking Atlantic.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Oh, that guy is not the one Jason gave us, but
there's another guy who wasdiagnosed with something
terminal and he bought asailboat and he's just sailing
across the Pacific and he'dnever sailed before and some of
his videos are like Holy crap,this guy's going to die, Like
he's going to die, Like hedoesn't know how to sail and
he's caught in these storms.

(51:54):
He must have like a, a, aStarlink satellite that he's
able to broadcast from wherehe's at.
But it is wild to watch thisguy go about it.
But I he in one of his videoshe was like like I was diagnosed
with something terminal and Iwanted to go experience
something I never would haveexperienced otherwise.
So he went and did this thing.

(52:14):
So but jason brought up thepoint.
He goes I don't know if wecould do that as catholics right
, like you'd have to get adispensation, you said, for
missing mass.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah I mean, even just that alone, right yeah?
I mean, I guess you could, youdefinitely get a dispensation,
though, I'm sure, and you have alot of last right yeah, well,
that's as long as you don't dieout at sea right, it just seems
uh imprudent, like sinfully.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
So you know what I mean yeah, yeah, it depends if
you're single, also depends ifyou have a family.
Depending on you, there's a lotof case insurance, not just ai.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
We should convince them, it's just ai um, yeah, so
well, all right.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
So I think we should head over to locals and we'll
well, you know what.
Actually, let me just checksomething, because Mike Lewis
actually wrote an article on no.
He wrote an article on the AIthing, and I think we should at
least check it.
Faith in deep fakes.
In the days following PopeLeo's election.

(53:26):
The Internet.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Send this one to me.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Yeah, it's in there.
It's inundated withAI-generated deepfakes, videos,
images and messages purportingto depict the new pontiff.
These media fabrications, someof which have been circulated on
platforms like YouTube, tiktok,present the Pope delivering
messages he never said,sometimes even in his own voice.
For example, a video entitledPope's Wake-Up Urgent Call.
Example, a video entitledPope's Wake Up Urgent Call this

(53:52):
is the one my mom sent me.
Pope's Wake Up Urgent Call toAll True Christians posted on a
channel called Pope Leo XIVSermons delivers a fiery
42-minute exhortation about theend times in an AI-generated
voice based on that of Pope Leo.
A snippet says the sky is heavywith prophecy.
The clock of heaven is tickingin its final seconds and I
declare to you today 2025 is notjust another year.

(54:12):
It is a spiritual alarmsounding in the heavens for all
who still have ears to hear.
Look around you.
Do you not see it?
The world is unraveling at thescene.
This is such boomer, like theclock of heaven.
Like this is just what that isoh man, we forgot recusant yeah

(54:34):
we are terrible, but we stillhave a lot of people we still.
We still have plenty of peoplein the audience.
So um, I finished my bottles ofrecusant and I realized I've
realized that um basically allthe money they give us I'm gonna
go right to wine I just spendon their wines.

(54:55):
It'd be crazy for them to ditchus because they're making it
all back.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
They're like a drug dealer who gives you the first
taste for free.
Now, when you order your, you,you're not using our own code,
are you?

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah, why?
What am I supposed to use?
I have a special code.
No, there's no special code,but you're, I get a bigger
discount.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
No, it's just Never mind.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
But if I use our code , it looks like our audience is
paying for it and then they wantto keep us as the thing.
So I wanted 10 off and I makeit look like we're our fans are
buying you're the worst.
You're the worst, you'reabsolutely the worst why do you
get a bigger discount than?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
me.
No, I don't get a biggerdiscount than you.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Yeah they're gonna love this I mean, they're
literally a drug dealer, they'rean alcohol salesman no, that's
not literally a drug deal.
Oh my gosh all right, maybe not.
No, it's not, it's definitelynot.
And all things in moderationare totally fine, guys.
You guys need to record allfuture ad reads in hawaiian

(56:04):
pigeon.
We did do an ad read inHawaiian Pigeon last episode,
but recusensellerscom Use codeBASE to check out for 10% off.
Go to their site, guys, checkit out.
Which one's your favorite?
I got the red.
The red blend was amazing andthat's in the more affordable
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But what was the other one Igot?

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They have the Petit Verdot, the Petit Verdot and
then the.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Cabernet, the Petit Verdot is my favorite and the
Cabernet.
Yeah, the Petit Verdot, I thinkthe.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Cabernet is my favorite personally.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
I usually like Cabernet.
I actually like the Red Blendbetter than their Cabernet,
which I was surprised by becauseI usually do get Cabernet at
the liquor store.
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(56:56):
I'm still a little groggybecause I drank a little too
much of it yesterday is that whyyou only got four hours?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
did you give yourself a headache from drinking all
the wine?

Speaker 4 (57:04):
no, I haven't got.
I haven't gotten a headache.
Okay, so I went to italy, Iwent to carlo acutis's, I went
to carlo acutis's tomb yeah, no,I prayed.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
No, no, no.
He didn't, he didn't give me nohealing, no, he did not heal me
.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Okay, and I cause I didn't get a healing.
But I came home and Mary Teresa, who was on the trip with me,

(57:40):
sent me a liter of Lord's WaterAbout two weeks after I got home
from Italy and I made the signof the cross on my head on my
temples.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
And I have not gotten a headache since I put that
Lord's water on my head.
I get called the Canadian, andyet you're the one using things
like leaders.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
I don't know, it was just a leader.
What do you?
I don't know.
That's what we call.
Like one, a one liter of soda.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
What do I have to pull super troopers on you
that's what you're taking fromthat story.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
I was healed by lord's water you're complaining
about the metric system.
Are you sick?
It's wrong with you telling youlike I had a miraculous event
in my life.
You're like who's in the metricsystem you savage like a liter
of cola, it's called the courtyou gotta, so I so, listen, I I

(58:36):
have to tell you guys aboutthese headaches, though, because
I've I've never gone more thanthree weeks without a headache.
Like that's the longest stretchI've ever gone.
Typically, I get two a week.
At at the season change, I getthem every day come every 28
days no, I get them every dayduring the season change, so
like it's spring and fall, likethey're seasonal, but I get them

(58:59):
throughout the year.
So she sent me the lord's waterin january and I didn't get one
like through the spring seasonand I was holding off on telling
her because I didn't want tolike get her hopes up for
nothing.
But I finally texted her like aweek or two ago and I was like
Mary Teresa, I just want you toknow this is the longest stretch

(59:22):
I've ever gone without gettinga headache, to the point where,
like I'm not, I'm going toGreece and I'm not even worried
about oxygen.
I'm not like'm going to greeceand I'm not even worried about
oxygen.
I'm not like I haven't refilledmy oxygen since italy.
So I mean, I pray that it'spermanent, but it was the lord's
water, it wasn't carlo acutis,so it's not seasonal burnout

(59:43):
they're.
They're called seasonal clusterheadaches.
Um, yeah, I've known a fewother people that get they?

Speaker 1 (59:50):
have you ever done the injections?

Speaker 4 (59:52):
no, that they say that's for like um, uh uh
migraines, like the botoxinjections and stuff.
I think that works from now theuh imitrix no that.
My doctor tried giving meseizure medication that didn't
work, like any medication nomedications ever worked.
But yeah, breathing straightoxygen is the only thing that

(01:00:16):
relieves those headaches.
So if I, if I, get a headachewithout oxygen, they last about
an hour and they're crippling,debilitating.
I can't even be around anybody.
But if I have oxygen they lastabout 15 minutes and they're way
less painful.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
But I have to breathe straight oxygen at like 20
liters per minute which, againwith the, leave you ever, if
there's ever a spark around you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
While you're doing that, I was going straight up in
flames I've so like I've hadfires going out, it like I've
had fire in the den and it likegoes out completely and I go get
my oxygen tank and I and I getthat thing going right back up
get my oxygen tank and I and Iget that thing going right back
up on my oxygen one that isincredibly stupid too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
I would totally do it too.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
The tank is like seven, eight feet away and I
just take the hose, but I've hadthe hose catch on fire and I'm
like, oh no, I gotta shut thetank off right away.
It's fun breaking news.
Uh home in long island todayexploded unexpectedly yeah, dude
, I mean if if a tank everexploded, it would.
They don't let you bring themon planes because of that.
So but, um, breathe oxygendoing it, I prefer nitrous.

(01:01:27):
No, that wasn't what killedMichael Jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
You sickos Didn't they get what Fire Because of
oxygen.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
No, Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Jackson was on.
What's that freaking drug?
The one that if you even touchyou die Fentanyl, fentanyl.
No, that was Prince.
That was Prince.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Prince, how did Michael Jackson go?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
But all I know is my wife's childhood doctor was the
one prescribing prince, all ofthe fentanyl.
Wow yeah, world.
We hear the news.
I'm like, oh yeah, locals,we'll go to locals.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Molly's right, this is all locals talk.
Let's go over to locals, allright.
So if you guys are not localsmembers, that's uh, we're gonna
get into this.
This uh protestant uh story anduh protestant story.
I I sent the video of umprotestants uh talking about the
pope, so we could do that or wecould um, there's a few things
we can discuss.
We got other stuff.

(01:02:25):
Nice, um, let's see what elsewe got.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
What else we got?
Are we going over one of them?

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
beers we got yeah, let's go over.
All right, guys.
If you're not locals members,please subscribe over there.
We give you guys way more showover there.
Please join us.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
We will see you on the other side cut it, cut it,
cut it I wish there was a betterway of doing this yeah, it
should be like a quick, did I?

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
I sent uh.
Did you see in lake michiganthat stonehenge like structure?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
found.
I mean, I saw that you sentsomething to me about it, but we
might have to save that forhitchborn.
Yeah, that sounds fun.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
That's a hitchborn episode, I think um okay, I
think we are on locals.
Only let me yeah okay, wait,let me see what we got here.
You see a catholic engineer.
Her tweet got everybody riledup today.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Brilliant tweet, brilliant tweet as soon as I saw
the tweet, I'm like, oh no,we're going to discuss that.
This is this is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
It's a brilliant tweet because I've done it the
other way around.
Just annoy people like I'llcall women apple biters or
something, or like I've posedthe question if, if a wife
withholds the marital act fromher husband and he, uh, and it's
a long, prolonged period oftime and he gives into

(01:03:54):
temptation with something on hiscomputer, will she be held to
any accountability?
Not that she's responsible forit, will she, like he's clearly
responsible for his own actions,but will she hold any
culpability for her end, or willher culpability merely be
denying the marital act?

(01:04:14):
And it's an interestingquestion.
It was just like a hypotheticalI posed, but boy did people
lose their minds as their wantto do?
yes, people are want to losetheir minds.
So catholic engineer says aucontraire, is not the sin of eve
ultimately the sin of adam forfailing to protect his wife from
the serpent?
Catholic men can't claim towant to be the spiritual leaders

(01:04:37):
of their households without.
Is not the sin of Eve,ultimately the sin of Adam for
failing to protect his wife fromthe serpent?
Catholic men can't claim towant to be the spiritual leaders
of their households withoutactually defeating the devil
within their domain.
Did the men whose wives choseabortion?
So the context is if a marriedwoman aborts her child, is the
husband culpable in any way Ifshe does it without him knowing?
Is the husband culpable in anyway if she does it without him
knowing?
So her point is did the menwhose wives chose abortion pray

(01:04:58):
a daily rosary with theirfamilies?
Did they actively inculcategood morals in their house or
did they just think going tochurch once a week was enough?
Spiritual warfare is very realand that's why I stand by my
claim that the husband isultimately responsible for
protecting his family and if thewife chose abortion, the
husband is the one who allowedthe devil to creep in and attack
her, like Adam in the Garden ofEden.

(01:05:20):
That is insane.
That is insane.
He might have some culpabilityfor failing to do a few things.
He's not ultimately responsiblefor the wife sneaking behind his
back and doing that because hedidn't pray a daily rosary right
like that's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
He has culpability for his failings in leading a
family, but he's not culpable inthe abortion.
No, that's ridiculous butthat's in.
That's an insane claim alsoit's ridiculous uh, a woman
who's not married is trying tolike teach people this stuff
online.
That's ridiculous in and ofitself.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
This is but this is the modern.
It's just so crazy how like?
Because clearly men do have therole of priests of their home
and they, they do fail at thatquite often yeah but man, to

(01:06:20):
just say, and like, like, she'salmost saying like when women
die, they'll be able to go toheaven.
It was my husband's fault, Idon't have to tell you it does
seem that way he didn't pray thedaily rosary with us.
Like what are you nuts womanlike that is completely bonkers
like my.
My dad was not the greatestpriest in the home, but my mom

(01:06:42):
did the best she could at it.
It's I don't know.
It's like we're all gonna beculpable for our own actions.
But if the husband had noforeknowledge of the act?
No, he's not guilty of theabortion.
He could be guilty of failingto do certain things in the home

(01:07:03):
, but that's not.
You know like a woman isultimately responsible.
There are men who talk womeninto that and that they'll be
held, they'll be culpable forsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
That's a very different situation yes, very
different um, let me see I havesomething to share real quick I
want to pull up.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
uh, locals, what is this?
Wait, who's?
Who's that with the mustachePratt?
Is he the stupid mustache?

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
The look he's got on your face is perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
Wait, I got to get into, I got to get onto the
locals chat.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Hang on, I like to see what the people are saying.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Let's see sorry guys, slow show today.
I'm gonna just join the chat soI can see what you people are
saying, because that seems likethat seems like that seems like
a when you guys would havesomething to say about.
I don't believe the husband isultimately responsible, but it

(01:08:20):
would not hurt if he treated hisfamily that way as a means.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Yeah, I agree, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying like, yeah,
the husband does ultimately havea very big responsibility in
the home.
I can't believe this content isonly $50 a year.
$45.
Those are the worst.
Head of the household does meana large responsibility for
spiritual attacks on the family.

(01:08:45):
We've had a good, solid priest.
Reiterate this to my husband.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Yeah, I'm not denying that Right.
But no matter what spiritualattack a woman might receive,
she still chooses to abort herchild.
Like that's one thing.
Even if you're possessed, youcan't be forced to do something
against your will, so that womanis ultimately still the one
responsible yeah, I'm gonnablame my father when I face

(01:09:10):
judgment too.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Um, yeah, look, I do think, like I said's, there's a
conversation I have there, butnot the way she worded it.
Like, the way she worded thatwas just completely bonkers.
All right, let's play.
Let's play that Protestantvideo I sent.
We had to figure out adifferent system for these

(01:09:39):
videos and stuff.
You said I hate this so much.
Yeah, it's a lot.
Should protestants root for thenew pope, doug wilson?
I don't know who doug wilson is, you know.
No, it's like.
It's like is he a famous proddy?
I don't know.
I don't keep up in proddy worldthe video?

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
you?
We want to watch the video.
Yeah, bring it up.
It's a quick one.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
It's five minutes long, yeah we'll pause it if
something relevant is said.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Hold on, there's Hold on.
I gotta switch YouTube channels.
There's ads on this one you donot want that Freaking.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Molly got me to pay for YouTube channels.
There's ads on this one.
You do not want that Freaking.
Molly got me to pay for YouTubepremium.
I do like not having ads.
It is nice not having ads withYouTube premium.
I will say that Cigar mode.
Can we just call it what it isChild sacrifice?
Yeah, absolutely.
Can we just do Hawaiian pigeoninstead?

(01:10:35):
Doug Wilson is a big name inthe reformed world.
I think he's Presbyterian.
Yeah, it is like it's so weird,like you expect an ad to come
on when you click a video andyou're like, ooh, this is
seamless, pretty smooth, and Ido spend an awful lot of time on
YouTube.
So I just hate, hate givingthem money.

(01:10:56):
Even though they give me money.
It should be a businesswrite-off, but I mean all right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
You would think like why would our channel not
automatically get youtubepremium?

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
yeah, it should right , but you're a paid channel.
You should should get that as akickback.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Some recent events.
Doug, I'm sure you saw the newsof the new Pope I did.
What do you think theProtestant posture towards all
of that should be when ithappens, when they do the smoke
thing?
I saw many responses fromProtestants that range from
curious what's this guy going tobe?
To tweets about the newAntichrist.
So how should the Protestantsthink about when we have a new

(01:11:38):
pope?

Speaker 5 (01:11:39):
So the first thing I think we have to fix.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Notice how he said that when we have a new pope,
Like subconsciously evenrecognizes that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
Yeah, that is interesting.
The pope is his.
That's a good poll.
I didn't even pick up on that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
In our minds is that the modern Roman Catholic Church
is shot through with liberalism.
It is not the papacy of theMiddle Ages, it is not the
papacy that the reformers wereup against.
Now, the catechism of theCatholic Church is that the
teaching is all the same.
The teaching is all the same.
The teaching is all the same.
They still affirm theinfallibility of the pope when

(01:12:18):
he's speaking exotheater theystill affirm all I want.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
I want that last meme , this one, yes, I need, I need
that meme.
That is amazing and who thehell was the Black Taylor
Marshall and Black Trent Horn?

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
I need to know who that was if you're in locals
right now, tell us please do youhave it on X Mizzle?
Hitchborn Mizzle hitch board.
Mizzle hitch board.
Use it for juneteenth.
Oh, and we do need to save.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
We need to save that save that to use as a thumbnail.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Two n words in babylon avoiding babylon dei I
am saving this image to mycomputer right now To use.
I'm going to call it what'syeah, deiab.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
So, liza, the only thing that stinks about watching
the whole thing on Locals is Ican't.
We can't highlight yourcomments.
We can't highlight yourcomments.
That's the only reason, like itdoes, kind of, I can't wait
till they figure outhighlighting the locals'
comments, because once they dothat, I'll not highlight YouTube
comments at all, unless they'resuper chats.

(01:13:45):
Like, if you want to comment onour live show, you got to join
locals.
We'll put it out on YouTube.
But if you want comments, yougot to be on locals, unless it's
a super chat.
But they haven't figured thatout yet because it would be so
cool to just highlight ourlocals members now, that's so.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I am so rumble and locals are now owned by the.
Are they both owned by daverubin?

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
I don't know if they're both owned by him.
He's a partner in it somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
But anyway, like I think, as they start to share
more and more technology betweenthe two platforms.
Now that we have rumble that wecan highlight comments from, I
think that's probably comingdown the pipeline I hope so.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
I hope so because once that does happen, that'll
be a great way to even promotelocals, like you guys want to
comment.
We're not going to highlight itunless it's on locals.
Uh, all right, let's jump backto the video okay uh son of a
wait, actually, sean.
Yes, I did watch the do thatinterview and that was super

(01:14:44):
interesting too, rob, I talkedto you about it a little bit.
Uh, ross do that writes for thenew york times he's like the
catholic common common, uh,catholic opinion editor for the
new york times and heinterviewed a guy about the
future of ai, and this guy wasbasically talking about how,
whoever controls these ais, thepower is going to coalesce

(01:15:07):
around like a few figures yeahlike and it's.
We kind of talked about that inthe last episode like the power
is going to coalesce around afew very important figures and
man, it's got some reallyantichrist vibes, like if you
watch that episode, and he justhe's.

(01:15:28):
What's interesting about thisai thing that they're talking
about is it's not like the, it'snot like the climate change
hysteria for the apocalypse,because you know how like that,
they have the climate apocalypsethat they're always like, oh,
like 20 years from now, the iceshelf is gonna melt and break up
, but this is like two years out, so we'll know if they're full

(01:15:52):
of crap right away.
You know it's not like, oh,maybe in 15 years they're crazy,
apocalypse is going to happen.
This guy's like no, no, no,2027, by next year, you're going
to start seeing insane thingswith AI which I still, I still
dude, I still can't get Siri todictate my words.

(01:16:18):
So I'm very hesitant to believethat AI is taking over the world
, because I say the wordencyclical to Siri and it writes
end cycle.
It just doesn't work.
So don't tell me that AI istaking over the world.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, we should talk about trad recovery after this
video.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
And also people are suggesting that you should
record a commercial informingeveryone of the cancellation.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
I got to write a new script.
Should I do it in Hawaiianpigeon?

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Yes, I was just going to suggest that Trad recovery
man we're going to cancel a newscript.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Should I do it in Hawaiian Pigeon?
Yes, I was just going tosuggest that Trad recovery man.
We're going to cancel the wholething.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
First off, neither of us were speaking in Pigeon.
We were speaking like Jamaican,you know what I was doing.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
I was doing like Mr Echo from Lost.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
He's Nigerian.
Oh my gosh, you're the worst.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
It was kind of like a creole I was doing right, you
were doing something I don'teven know.
I mean, I read the words and Ijust did them in the.
It made it a hundred timesfunnier the way we did it, than
to speak proper hawaiian because, proper hawaiian pitch is way
more subtle.
Yeah, like the way we did, itmade it much funnier okay, watch
this video more yeah worse, mr.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
Mr echo, impersonation but they do so in
a liberal context, and PopeBenedict was the irony that this
guy doesn't even realize.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Protestants created liberalism.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
Yeah, not in that vein, but Francis certainly was,
and this current Pope Leo is inthat vein.
He's not going to be at thevery least he won't be a stopgap
against the gallopingliberalism that is all through
the Roman Church, and thedifferences between Protestants

(01:18:25):
and Catholics are very deep andabiding.
But Machen, I think, was onsomething when he says at the
beginning of his magisterialbook Christianity and Liberalism
, he talks about how much morein common Protestants have with

(01:18:46):
Roman Catholics than Protestantshave with liberal Protestants.
He says Protestants, liberalProtestants, are another
religion entirely.
It's like Buddhism.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
That's how we feel about Roman Catholicism.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
Roman Catholics is an extreme denominational
difference.
I think that's how he put it.
So he's not papering over thedifferences between a trad
Catholic.
So the the trad catholic andthe trad protestant can have a
robust um a robust debate notreally about the eucharist about

(01:19:20):
mary.
You know sufficiency ofscripture and all of that um you
can pause it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
What even is a trad protestant?

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
so he just means conservative like like a
reformed.
I don't even think that.
I think he's just talking aboutmoral issues, because they have
their.
You see it in Redeem Zuma allthe time Talking about, like the
Redeem Zuma thinks women can bepastors.
He's not conservative.
Yeah, that is actually funny.
He is bizarre.
He's a liberal Jew.

(01:19:50):
He's bizarre, that kid.
But he talks about how with therainbow stuff, it crept into
the you know, the pc usa and allthat stuff.
So they do have their liberalversion of things, just like we
have our james martins and wehave our german bishops and
things like that.
But james white actually saidit's hard for him to debate

(01:20:13):
modern Catholics because they,like he has a harder time
debating Trent Horn than he doesa set of a contest, not because
Trent Horn's arguments arebetter, but because Trent Horn
is such mealy mouthed.
Catholicism it's like you knowknow, trying to paper over what

(01:20:36):
like just just, it's just sodifferent.
Like that that's always myissue with, since pope francis
is like, how do you defendcatholicism?
Response to michael the thingis, I'm not that much lighter
than the one, than the guythat's supposed to know you kind

(01:20:59):
of look like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
It looks a little bit like me I just like how black
me's wearing a shirt that hasblack me on the shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
So the, the, the.
The difficulty of the francispapacy was that you felt like
you were arguing for acatholicism that no longer
exists in in terms of what thehierarchy teaches, right, so I
understand what he's saying.
He's saying like.
He's saying he's not eventalking about a debate,

(01:21:29):
necessarily, he did say that.
But he's also saying liketraditional protestants and
traditional catholics can atleast like unite on pro-life
issues, like they at least bothagree that except most of them
think ivf is okay yeah theydon't.
Yeah, you're right, yeah yeah,they don't think contraception's
okay anything they get right,they get right because of the

(01:21:51):
catholic position right, rightlike they, they, they, whatever
they get right because of theCatholic position Right.
Whatever they get right, it isthe Catholic position that
they're getting right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Paul wants to know will you be filing for
reparations after your trip toGreece next week, Once you're a
little more tan?

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
I am debating if I'm going to try and find an Eastern
Catholic liturgy to go to onSunday as opposed to a Novus
Ordo in Greece, a Greek NovusOrdo has to be the worst thing
in the world, right?
So I'm going to try and find anEastern Catholic liturgy while
I'm there.
There's no way I'm going tofind a Latin mass in Greece

(01:22:28):
Absolutely not.
So I'm going to try and find anEastern Catholic church to go
to.
Can we talk about black fatigue?
Not this episode, but soon wecan Anthony be filing for
reparations after he gets tannedin Greece next week?
Yeah, the society's probablynot even in Greece, right?

(01:23:00):
Oh, probably not.
No, I'm curious I should,especially on Mykonos.
Mykonos is going to be a realhard one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Let me see Latin Mass Finder I was just going to do
that, but you can do it so masslocations Oof.
Casey said she looked Greekordinarian.
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Check on the Latin Mass Finder, see if you can find
one.
I thought you were doing that.
I was trying, but it doesn'tlet me.
Latin Mass in Mykonos.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Oh, you're the worst, Greece.
I don't know how you make itthrough daily life to be honest,
you'll get through it wayquicker than me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
I'm never going to find it.
I see, yeah, this is justshowing me Novus Ordos.
I see, yeah, this is justshowing me Novus Ordo.
There's Greek Orthodox churchesthere, or there's a Novus Ordo
Catholic church on Mykonos.
I'm not seeing?

(01:24:10):
Did Matt see?
There we go.
Yeah, let's see, wait, theymade me and patrick cough in
black.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
The nearest lads and mass to you will either be the
institute, uh, in um, I don'tknow what part of italy that is,
but in italy, or, uh, there isa sspx in croatia is there a

(01:24:47):
byzantine catholic church ingreece, in mykonos?
The lads at mass finder doesn'ttell me if there's a Byzantine
mass.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
unfortunately, I'll have to figure it out when I get
there.
I'll have to talk to the locals.
I talked to the locals downthere and we figured it out.
You were going to get kickedout That'd be Patrice
Sarcophagus, not Patrick Coffin.
That's good, PatriceSarcophagus that's a good line D

(01:25:23):
.
That's good, patricesarcophagus.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
That's a good line d anthony and rabarion.
Um, I go to a ukrainian divineliturgy when I'm in the city
closest to me.
Can't, uh, can't bobby tell you?
I mean, all 20 of them in theworld have to know, right I can
ask my priest for a dispensation.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
I might have to no.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
He's going to tell me to go to the Novus Ordo.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Probably you think so .

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Well, it depends what priest you consider your priest
.
If you want a dispensation forthat, go to the SSPX priest.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
I can figure that out .
I don't know.
All right, we're going to wrapthis one up early tonight.
Guys, I'm exhausted and I havea ton of streaming coming up for
you this week.
So tomorrow life site news isinterviewing me.
I don't know when they'rereleasing that.
I doubt it's live because johnhenry likes to uh pre-record and

(01:26:12):
stuff.
So I doubt that will be live.
I don't know when that's comingout.
But then Wednesday, Rob and Iwill do a show and then Thursday
morning I'm on with AnthonyStein at 5 am and then 7.30 am I
go on with Joe McLean's showwith Michael Hichborn.
I have to figure out a good bitfor the after show on Joe
McLean's show.
So Joe McLeanan show is fromseven to eight on rate on radio

(01:26:35):
and then they do just like ayoutube after show from eight to
nine I have an idea for a goodbit what pigeon I should
introduce it.
I should, I should introduce myhawaiian pigeon over on joe
mclean show.
Yep, um, I'm gonna try andthink of something interesting
to just like take over the showon michael.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
He's the host or we introduced that, that uh clip
about whatever they found inlake michigan.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
He's the one that sent me that.
Oh really, yeah, he's the onethat sent me that.
So I said I'm gonna throw thatin our show notes for the next
time he's on, but that would beinteresting to talk about.
Oh my gosh, they're doingkwasniewski this is amazing is
that just rock?

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
I, I don't know, you don't need a bit, it's just a
casual conversation yeah ofcourse, I know it's no, I can't
see.
Yeah, I know, I saw it too,though to be fair, it kind of
just sounds Japanese.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Oh, my goodness, Our audience.
It is nice to have such ayouthful, funny audience.
Oh, the Nick update.
So I called Nick on the phoneand I just wanted to make sure
he was okay, because he didn'tshow up those two episodes, and
he said everything's fine and Isaid so what?

(01:27:58):
What we'll do going forward islike there'll be specific
episodes.
We asked Nick to come on.
Like it won't.
He won't be on as regularly,but he'll still be a regular
guest, so but we still want tohelp Nick promote anything we
can.
But I also don't want him likesometimes we get caught up in
riffraff on this show and Idon't.
I don't want him getting caughtup in some of it and stuff.

(01:28:18):
So there'll be very.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Sometimes people's names get put into vanity fair.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
Exactly you know so and I say curse words, so I
don't I don't want to remember Ireally don't remember saying it
.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Nick was probably on that episode because I think
that was from the holdsworthyeah he wasn't on at that time,
but probably yeah, so all right,we're gonna wrap this one up,
oh so and next tuesday, whileanthony's in greece, I was able
to um find uh, mark and jasonand they will be coming on for a

(01:28:51):
show on tuesday that's gonna befun.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
I wish I was there for that.
We got to get them on when I'mon notice how they both said yes
to when you're not there we'veasked them like four times and
they said no, every time as soonas they heard I wasn't gonna be
there, like let's go, let's doit.
So imagine that's hitchboard,making all those memes that
would be funny um, yeah, so youguys will get a show while I'm

(01:29:15):
gone, at least one.
It'll be up to Rob whatever Robdecides to do.
But all right, let's wrap thisone up.
We'll see you guys tomorrow.
I'll see you guys, I'll be on.
Yeah, you guys are on schedule.
We'll see you.

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