October 10, 2025 • 39 mins
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Start with a careful read of the room: families are stretched thin, culture is noisy, and the heart still aches for God. We sat down and opened a fresh Church document on charity and the poor, then asked a hard question—why does the guidance we hear so often miss the pain points we face each week? Caring for the poor is essential; the Beatitudes aren’t optional. But parents are also navigating social media modesty battles, identity confusion, and a five-hour Sunday just to reach the sacraments. Where is the pastoral help that speaks to those fires?
We dig into the difference between moral teaching and prudential policy, especially around immigration. Compassion matters, and human dignity isn’t up for debate. Yet the on-the-ground strain—parish distance, stretched budgets, cultural fragmentation—rarely earns direct acknowledgment. We argue for a both/and: real charity and a realistic defense of community life, parish stability, and the spiritual formation of children. That requires leaders who will name the demons of our moment—pornography, contempt, factionalism, and despair—along with the corporal needs we already know by heart.
Along the way, we wrestle with our own tone. Social media rewards scorn, but the Gospel commands love of the person in front of us—even when we disagree. We talk about reverence for the Eucharist, when not to receive, and how to keep Sundays from souring into resentment for teens. Underneath it all is a plea for shepherds to meet spiritual hunger with supernatural hope: clear teaching, reachable sacraments, and courage that transcends politics.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:02):
Okay, I think I'm live.
I think we're just waiting forAnthony to pop in.
I think he's here right now.
Okay, we're live.
SPEAKER_03 (00:10):
Okay.
Um all right, let's see.
Yeah, this uh the man.
This document there's nothingwrong in it.
It's like, oh, the whatever.
I didn't even read the whole,like I read excerpts from it,
and people are pointing stuffout, and I'm like, I just don't
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care.
It's just so far removed fromanything that concerns me.
It's like the yes, the churchshould care for the poor, like
the church has always care forthe poor, the church should
actually care for migrants.
Like, this is what the churchhas always done.
It's the body of Christ, and andit's Christ's presence on earth.
So, yes, the church has to havea major charitable arm.
(00:53):
And yes, these this is thegospel, right?
Like the like the you go readthe Beatitudes, yes, that's what
this is.
SPEAKER_02 (01:00):
It's just I I don't see why a 97-page document was
needed for that in our day andage.
SPEAKER_03 (01:09):
It's like it's it's like this, Rob, because your
kids aren't teens yet.
Here's what here's what itreally is.
It's like my my kids think theirfather is out of his mind
because he doesn't let hisdaughters have Instagram, and
they think their father's out ofhis mind because he talks to
them about like all these issuesall the time, because there's no
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support from the church for us.
Yeah, there's no support fromthe church for us, like there's
there's no nothing coming fromthe hierarchy talking to our
children about modesty in thisday and age and how dangerous it
is to let your image be put outthere because you are
responsible for your image thatyou put out there.
(01:52):
Like, there's no documents likelike backing up us parents who
are doing our freaking best toraise our children.
There's no help from themwhatsoever.
All there are are thesedocuments that come out to
basically confirm the bias ofthese liberal prelates in the
(02:15):
crap they're doing.
It's like you get this, you getthis confirmation in the in the
garbage that you guys are doing,and the Pope says, Oh, this
these atrocities that arehappening.
Yeah, it's like, yeah, okay, wegot to care for he.
Yeah, we have to make immigrantspart of our our community.
We cannot leave them out.
It's like I my entire Latin massparish is made up of brown kids.
(02:38):
Like they really are, they'repart of the community.
We don't cast them out becausethey're not white.
Like, what are you even talkingabout?
What are you even talking about?
I my company, there's 50 guysthat work there.
25 of them are from South andCentral America.
They barely speak English.
I'm friends with them.
I care about these men.
I work around poor people allday.
I buy them lunch all the time.
SPEAKER_02 (03:00):
Yeah, half this chat is brown kids.
SPEAKER_03 (03:02):
That's what that's but that's it, right?
Like half of our show, when wemeet our when we meet the people
who watch our show, they're notwhite.
Like, it's not this is not whatwe need help with at all.
SPEAKER_02 (03:13):
It's just we I mean, on one hand, yes, we live in a
time with probably one of thegreatest disparities of wealth
in history, right?
But at the same time, we alsolive in a time where the poorest
person in America, and Iunderstand that the world's
obviously more than America, butlet's just say the poorest
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person in America has an eye.
Right, can can go get charityfrom literally almost anywhere.
And I'm not saying we shouldn'teven try to do more because of
course we should, we definitelyshould, but this isn't a time
and place where like we're notdealing with the the famines in
Somalia in you know the 19 early1990s, that it somehow the cause
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for 80,000 Somalians now inMinneapolis.
SPEAKER_03 (04:01):
But like, like what even is a poor person at this
point, right?
Like like poverty looks verydifferent in America than it
does in India.
Like, what like what what aboutthe poor in spirit?
Like, listed are the poor inspirit because you had your
freaking liturgy robbed fromyou, and you're 25 of Gen Z is
is gay or trans, and we're we'rewe're worried about immigrants,
(04:24):
like no no no, and it's not justthat, it's like okay, we uh the
confirming these bishops intheir push for open borders,
it's like, yeah, let immigrantsin to the point.
SPEAKER_02 (04:34):
We know Greg, because that was only one out of
120 paragraphs.
SPEAKER_03 (04:38):
I understand, but the conversation is is very much
on this, right?
This is this is where the focusof the conversation is.
I'm sorry, but a quick video ofLeo speaking with those bishops
does more than this apostolicexhortation.
This 98-page apostolicexhortation will get way less
traction than that clip of Leomeeting with bishop seats,
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confirming them in their workand telling them, yes, you go
and you you push against thisadministration.
You guys are opening thefreaking borders up and and
welcoming these people into thepoint where my own son cannot
afford to buy a home, right?
SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
And so much of this is more prudential issues than
it is moral, right?
Like, uh, because I imagine, andeven the part about immigrants,
probably that whole thing isprobably morally just fine, you
know, probably dogmatically justfine.
SPEAKER_03 (05:29):
Um, but prudentially, do they not
realize like this push thatthey're pushing for is actually
impoverishing more people thanit's impoverishing more,
impoverishing the the wealthiestnation in the world, dude.
More than that, it isdisintegrating any kind of
culture we have, and that's whatwe were like that's the point.
Like, you're opening up thefloodgates to foreigners, and
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you're disintegrating theculture that actually could be
built to have my children haveCatholic friends, right?
I mean, they're don't haveCatholic friends because one
billion people in India.
SPEAKER_02 (06:04):
So, what you bring a hundred million of them here,
and does that help the other 900million plus in India?
No, but what it was, what does ahundred million of them here do?
SPEAKER_03 (06:14):
Destroys our whole nation, destroys any semblance
of community that we have witheach other.
Like, like they they put us in aposition where I can't even have
a community with my parishbecause we're all driving an
hour and a half to get there, soyou can't, it's not like your
kids can be friends with theirkids because they're driving
from an hour and a half in theopposite direction.
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It's so wicked and evil whatthey're doing.
SPEAKER_02 (06:43):
The the whole Twin Cities metro is like 2.5
million, but the city ofMinneapolis itself is half a
million, 500,000.
20 of that city is now Somali.
unknown (06:52):
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (06:53):
20 or 20, one in five people are small.
SPEAKER_03 (06:59):
It's just a church so freaking out of touch with
what her sons and daughters needright now.
And I'm watching all theliberals go, oh, this is
amazing.
All that is is them gettingconfirmed in their liberal
politics.
So all you're doing, you're notactually gonna change anybody,
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like you, you're just you I justI want to see something that
really does transcend politicsthat really does transcend
politics and actually calls usto something hard because it's
yeah, okay.
If you if you don't love thepoor, you're gonna go to hell,
is essentially what Leo'ssaying, and I agree with that.
But how about if you don't loveyour neighbor who has a
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different political opinion thanyou?
Because if you hate yourbrother, you're going to hell.
And we're we're there is so muchanimosity.
People were asking in that lastvideo we did like, why are you
so nice to Mike Lewis?
Because I actually take thisstuff seriously.
That's why no, it's because Iactually do want to like treat
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others the way they're supposedto be treated.
Like it's I'm not kidding.
It's it's it's like I need tofor and and not just that, I
want to actually understand theargument from their perspective.
I don't want to just yell acrossand call them an idiot.
I want to actually understandwhere they're coming from with
this.
I may disagree with them to thefoundation of my being, but I
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should still be able to treatthem like a human being.
This is really like um the waywe all treat one another at this
point because of social mediaand stuff like that.
Like, how about give us howabout give us an exhortation on
that?
Like how to love someone youdisagree with, because that is
something that would be veryvaluable, and especially because
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it should be pointed at theliberals who hate us.
Like we are like God has aspecial place in his heart for
the downtrodden and for thosewho are oppressed.
Like, you guys have done that tous.
(09:15):
Look, it's I'm I'm at a pointnow where I really do see like
all of this as it's going towork for our our our our good if
we if we handle it right.
Like if if we if we accept if wejust accept the suffering and
(09:38):
just love these people throughtheir punishment of us, which is
gonna be difficult.
It's gonna be very difficult.
But like you have to love thepeople who are who are being
awful to you.
Like uh 1 Peter 4.
SPEAKER_01 (09:53):
Man, uh let me say what's the actual verse.
SPEAKER_03 (09:56):
Uh um well, it's uh there's one in uh Ephesians 6.5.
SPEAKER_02 (10:06):
Uh Christ uh four is where they think it's strange.
Yeah, that's not true.
No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03 (10:12):
Ephesians 6.5, I think.
But there's another one in firstin 2 Peter, I think.
Ephesians 6.5.
Ephesians 6.5, verse Ephesians6, verse 5 through 9.
And then it's 1 Peter 2.18.
(10:34):
Actually, 1 Peter 2.18.
Let's go to that one.
They're saying similar things.
1 Peter 2.18, though.
This is this is important.
SPEAKER_02 (10:45):
Okay.
Uh I don't think this is right.
1 Peter 2.18.
Servants be subject to yourmasters with all fear, not only
to the good and gentle, but alsoto the froid.
SPEAKER_03 (11:01):
Yeah.
Slaves.
Like, love your masters, eventhe cruel ones.
Like submit, even the cruelones.
It's not easy, man.
Like we're being beaten, we'rebeing just tormented.
We're sitting here and we'rewatching our church taken over
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by by awful people.
Like, you look at what thatbishop in Charlotte did, and all
I'm all I'm thinking is whileI'm watching that going on,
like, blessed are you that mournfor you will be comforted.
Like, yes, you guys aresuffering a death in Charlotte.
You will be comforted.
Like the Beatitudes, you go backand you read the Beatitudes,
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like, they're so freakingimportant.
They really are.
And I know that's what like thiswhole thing that they're doing
with this document.
It's like they think they'reexhorting us to love the poor.
They're it's going to have theopposite effect, it's going to
make people revile them becausethere's real problems that are
occurring from the thingsthey're doing in our country,
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and they're we're being told,shut up and take it, love them.
And it's like, yes, I know.
Like, I know, like, like youreally should see the face of
Christ in every person, right?
And especially like, like, youlook at what St.
Francis did with the lepers,like Saint Francis, he was
skeeved out by the lepers, so hehad like forced himself to go
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and like lay with them and touchthem, and he wound up falling in
love with them.
And it's a difficult thing to doto see the face of Christ in
every person, but you really arecalled to do that.
So, I have no issue with likethem exhorting us to love the
poor and care for everybody.
Like, that's fine, it's just soout of touch with what real
people are facing right now,with the amount of temptation
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and the and the amount of likethe demonic that's out here.
Like, what we really need is thechurch's supernatural graces
poured out right now, andthey're not do all they want us
focused on is the temporal.
SPEAKER_02 (13:02):
Um, not only are they not giving them to us,
they're ripping them away fromus, ripping them away from us.
Yeah, there are times andhappens fairly frequently where
like I get really, reallydiscouraged.
Um especially on weekends wherefor whatever reason, like we
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can't make the four-hour roundtrip drive to mass, right?
And like it's it's like youknow, as a as a husband and
father, and even just as aCatholic, all I want to do is go
to mass and worship God andreceive the sacraments and and
share that with my wife and andwith my kids, and yet the the
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the church is more or lessforcing me to it almost seems
like like it's almost like animpossible task, right?
SPEAKER_03 (13:59):
It's not just to make the drive, to get my kids
baptized, to your kids arelittle right now, they'll do
what you say.
What do you think is gonnahappen when you're 14 and you're
forcing them to go four hours ona Sunday?
They're gonna hate religion.
SPEAKER_02 (14:11):
Well, I know that's that's what discouraged that's
what really discourages me.
Is if it's this hard now, howhow much harder is it gonna be
when we have two, three morekids, and now Maddie's you know
12 years old, and I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (14:26):
Listen, I know most of our audience is younger, you
guys all have younger kids.
I'm telling you what it getslike when you get older, like
when the kids get older, like mykids love the Latin mass, but on
Sunday when we wake up and it'slike we gotta go drive an hour,
they're like, uh like it buildsa resentment that they have to
drive a freaking hour, andthey're like, Can't we just go
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to the Novus Oro?
It's so convenient.
It's like, no, we can't.
It it's it gets hard when theyget older and they become
teenagers.
It gets difficult when all yourkids' friends are able to do
things, and you're like, No,that's we're not doing that, and
they start thinking like thenCatholicism becomes burdensome,
and when they go to mass,they're not hearing the priests
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confirm the father in the thingsthat he's doing, they're not
hearing that from anywhere else,and they just think their
father's a freaking, you know,it's like this it gets difficult
when your kids get older, man.
I'm telling you, it's like Imean, my kids are all awesome
and they're grateful foreverything, and they they
whatever.
I'm just telling you, I knowwhat this is gonna be like for
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people.
It's easy when your kids arelittle because they kind of do
whatever you say, but once theystart getting it, you know, my
my my son's 19, my daughter's18, my other daughter's 14.
It gets gets tricky, like theywould rather just have it be.
Why can't we just go to thechurch that's around the block?
You know, it's just it's it's alot, and and it's it's wears to
worry about that in a few yearsbecause there probably won't be
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a church around the block.
But yeah, they're gonna shutdown half the parishes over the
next few years on top of that.
Yeah, even though even the NovaZordo is gonna be getting shut
down.
SPEAKER_02 (16:02):
Well, especially the Nova Zordo.
SPEAKER_03 (16:07):
Um, yeah, near nearest TLM is an hour and a
half and starts at 9 a.m.
So you gotta leave at 7 a.m.
to go to 9 a.m.
SPEAKER_02 (16:15):
I'd be okay with that.
I mean, yeah, we'd have to leaveat at 6:30 for us, but at least
then we could be home by youknow one.
Now it's we wake up, startgetting ready for mass, go to
mass.
By the time we're home, it'slike kids, time to get ready for
bed.
SPEAKER_03 (16:34):
Yeah, no, it's well, that's what it is.
It takes your entire day up, youknow, and it's like like so.
So I mean, what we do isespecially like if we're gonna
go into the city because it's anhour and 20 minutes, I'll take
them out and we'll do somethingin the city that day.
So I kind of make it anadventure, but that gets
expensive every freaking Sunday.
SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
Going out to eat in the city every Sunday because
you want it, like it's not I dowhat I do what I think it's 120
bucks to eat anywhere, but youknow, that's not fast food, and
fast food it's still 80, 90bucks.
SPEAKER_03 (17:03):
So what but that's what it turns into, and it's
like so so we go all the wayinto the city, and then we want
to go out to eat something afterbecause I want to make it spell
right.
Take them to go see something inNew York City so that they're
not like dreading going tochurch just for this just to go
to church for five hours oftheir day, right?
You know, that's like five, sixhours of their day because we
went to church.
It's a lot, that's all I'msaying.
(17:23):
I'm not saying they don't do it,they do it, but it's a lot, and
it's it's just it gets tediousand it gets and it wears you
down.
Let's put let's play the thefull Nick clip because he he
gets into something that I likeI finally heard him vent the
same frustration that we allhave, which was happy to hear
it.
I was like, Finally, he's sayingwhat like because it's not just
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about immigration, it's aboutall these things that we always
talk about, and it wasrefreshing to hear him say it.
Cigar mode, pack a picnic, gosomeplace, and he's good.
Yeah, we do that too, but it'slike it what why should I have
to do that?
But no, I wouldn't mind doingthat.
Like, I want to spend the timewith my kids, it's not it's
fine, but like the things to doin New York, like you're not
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packing a picnic on a Sunday inin the winter.
I'm sorry, you're just not, youknow, like you have to like.
I mean, I've you know, me andNicole have taken the kids to
the museum, like I've taken themto the MoMA to go and see um uh
to go and see like uh uh what nothe Metropolitan Museum we've
taken them to, and I'll thenthen I'll spend the day like
showing them uh medievalChristian art and stuff like
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that.
It it is a fun, beautifulexperience.
It's just it should just be youwake up and you go to mass 10
minutes away.
It's just a lot.
SPEAKER_02 (18:37):
Yeah, it it doesn't help that in our day and age,
like you know, we we workoutside of the home, which is is
fairly like relatively recent inhistory where that was a thing
for even men, you know.
So I have two days a week to doanything around the house.
Yeah, and now when I go to mass,you know, when I go to the TLM,
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I now only have Saturdays.
Saturdays is the one day a weekI now have to do anything at
home.
SPEAKER_03 (19:03):
Yeah, and I'm telling I'm telling you, we got
a book of Father Maudleyinterview.
unknown (19:08):
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (19:11):
I was feeling so white pill.
Thank you, Anthony, forreminding me that all hope is
lost.
SPEAKER_02 (19:15):
I'm just saying here I am saying how hard it is,
thinking maybe you'll give mesome sort of advice to make it
you know better.
You're like, no, man, it's gonnaget way worse.
SPEAKER_03 (19:23):
No, I'm just I honestly, this this exhortation,
especially seeing the peoplelike oh, seeing every everybody
like even like I love Wagner, Ilove him, but he's like, This
isn't just like a Marxistdocument, he says some really
good things, and I'm like, I'msure he does, but sure he says
some good things.
The Pope, I would hope he sayssome good things in it.
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I would hope the Pope said a fewgood things in his apostolic
exhortation.
It's very cool.
I just would like to see somethings that actually matter to
us.
SPEAKER_02 (19:54):
We have 900,000 kids being aborted a year in the US,
we have 50,000 Nigerians beingslaughtered a year by Muslims in
Nigeria, and yet we're worriedabout the not that we should
worry about the poor.
SPEAKER_03 (20:08):
I don't want to downplay that.
Like, we like I know, like, yes,we should love the poor.
The church is doing a good thingin its missionary spirit and
caring for the poor.
Like, yes, yes, of course, it'sthe church, the church has
always done this.
You go back and you go back intothe early church, and that's
literally how they converted theworld, is by caring for the the
throwaways of the culture, andit was so appealing that the
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pagan the pagan priests wouldpretend they cared about the
poor.
Like it is a beautiful thing,it's a good way to evangelize
too, and you're showing theworld what love is like you love
one another, that's how they'llknow us by our love.
Yes, that's all good, but we'rein a very unique point in time
right now where the culture isdegrading around us, there's
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evil everywhere, and we need thechurch's supernatural gifts, and
they're depriving us of it, andit's really, really frustrating.
And all they're doing is takingpolitical stances that cause
havoc, always with the wrong endof the political spectrum with
these guys because they justwant to be confirmed in their
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bias and be told, look, it'sdude, it's the seamless garment
stuff.
It's like, well, thoseconservatives, they're they're
first of all, I hate capitalism.
So like it's not I don't evencare that he's critiquing
capitalism.
Capitalism sucks, we're allslaves.
Like it's fine, he's not he'snot not pushing socialism.
Like, you're gonna get you'regonna get boomers who are like
this is socialist Marxism.
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No, the church has neveractually been for unfettered
capitalism, like it just hasn't.
It's not good.
It's it it makes everybody acommodity, and you're just a
wheel and a cog.
I'm all fine with like trying tofigure out a better system, but
it's just well, there was athird way, but World War II had
to go and screw that up, yeah.
Right.
All right, let's play the fourat this clip.
SPEAKER_00 (21:59):
Why is it that the Pope is always undermining U.S.
immigration policy?
Because now I see Catholicpriests in Chicago and they're
doing like protests against thedeportations, and they're doing
that because they're emboldenedby the Pope.
The Pope sets the tone, and nowyou have ecclesiastical
authority, you know, the clergyin America that are that are
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protesting this politicaldecision.
And it's like, you know, you arethe vicar of Christ on earth for
a heavenly kingdom.
I don't know where Jesus gaveyou the authority to tell us who
we can and can't let in ourcountry.
You know, these people are hereillegally.
They're fucking gang members.
Trump is not doing massdeportations, okay?
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These buildings that he'sraiding, these are gang members.
These are violent gang members,these are people with a criminal
record.
Uh that so what is actuallyCatholic about letting people
come here illegally?
They're invading our fuckingcountry, and they're gangsters.
Why do what is Catholic abouttolerating that?
And you see, for example, inChicago, ICE did a raid on this
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apartment building and it wasfilled with squatters.
It was filled with trendy Araguasquatters where they installed
their own deadbolt locks.
There's like sitting water inthe hallways.
They're like taking a livingfrom the exit signs.
It's like the whole building,it's squalor.
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There's they're squatters.
They're not even living in thebuilding legally.
They're not living in ourcountry legally.
They get rounded up and kickedout, and the Pope is going to
take a position and say, well,you know, that's not pro-life.
Hey, man, you know, just thebread and wine, please.
Hold the opinions.
And I hate to speak soflippantly about that as one of
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the rare occasions that I willcriticize the Pope, because I
think a lot of people love topick on the Pope and criticize
the Pope, but it's it's grading.
It's little grating.
And, you know, I would just lovefor the Pope to take a firm
stand on some of these otherissues, too.
You know, is there any statementon Charlie Kirk getting
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murdered?
Is there any statement on, youknow, these radical left people
that are in favor oftransgenderism?
How about feminism?
How about contraceptives?
How about abortion?
I feel like there's about 50things the left is doing that
are far more heinous before youget to like the Republican
immigration policy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, think of all the gravematters of morals and theology
in America (24:35):
the apostasy, the idolatry, the blasphemy, the
killing, the abortion, thepornography, the sexual sins,
the disordered nature of thesexes and their relationship.
And you're gonna weigh in andsay, well, shining up, these
deportations are the problem.
Okay, man.
So I think sounds like avoidingBible.
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What's going on here?
Respectfully, I say that withreverence for the audience.
Yeah, I say it with reverenceand everything, but it's it's
it's a little bit out of line.
And it starts to get irritatingwhen Catholics in America are
starting to undermine thisbecause the Pope has taken the
lead on it in this way.
It's like that's not helping,actually.
(25:19):
You're not actually helping.
SPEAKER_03 (25:21):
It's amazing that you cracked under Leo and not
Francis, though.
I'm just like you cracking underLeo.
This is child's play for what wedealt with the past 10 years.
No, God bless you, Nick.
I'm glad you spoke speaking outabout because this stuff is
real, like this is importantstuff.
The things that the culture isactually facing go unaddressed,
(25:42):
and we hear platitudes, we hearplatitudes that confirm these
liberal bishops in theirdecision to support liberal
politicians, even though thefreaking we just had uh a
lunatic caught at a at a churchin DC with 200 bombs about to
bomb another Catholic church andtry to kill the Catholic uh
(26:05):
Supreme Court justice.
No, but let's let's let's let'sget on let's get on the re let's
get on those conservativesbecause they're they're for
getting you know cleaning theircountry up and getting
immigrants out.
Like this is insane.
This is absolute insanity.
I love the freaking church, Ilove the church.
(26:28):
What has happened to the church?
Not the church, the church isholy and impeccable, the bride
of Christ.
What the hell has happened tothe hierarchy?
They're a bunch of gaycommunists, literally, like
that's what we're what it is theinfiltrate like the infiltration
(26:51):
of these people into thehierarchy of our church is oh,
how long, Lord?
How long, how long before 20 to30 years, probably.
Please, Lord, don't make usendure this for much longer.
(27:11):
Oh but no, but yeah, all right.
So, yeah, immigration is thething that finally set him off.
But he did say all those otherthings, like the the issue.
That's what the he actuallyencompassed exactly what I'm
talking about, right?
This document is talking aboutthe poor, and yes, we need to
care for the poor.
Nobody's denying that, but likethe other things he just
(27:33):
mentioned there are the thingsactually facing our culture, the
things that us parents who aretrying to raise our children
Catholic are left on our own.
We are alone, we do not have anyanyone in the clergy supporting
us and trying to do what's rightby our children.
SPEAKER_02 (27:50):
We literally have have anarchist Satanists trying
to brainwash our kids over theinternet with with gay trans
furry porn so that they can goand and kill Catholic kids in
church.
Like that literally freakinghappened in the last six.
SPEAKER_03 (28:07):
I honestly don't want to hear it about like
Catholic podcasters like theclergy has abandoned you.
I'm sorry, I'm the only freakingpastor you guys have at this
point.
It sucks.
It sucks.
You have a freaking YouTubepastor, guys.
I feel bad for you.
(28:29):
This is where we're at.
You're stuck with me as yourfreaking, as you're as your
moral, as you're we're aministry, we're a ministry,
guys.
SPEAKER_02 (28:44):
Ministerial apostolate.
SPEAKER_03 (28:47):
And that one is loft in arc.
Oh man, Father Anthony.
No, I'm not look, you might geta good uh SSPX priest, you might
get I'm just I'm not like ahman, it's just the church should
be speaking about this stuff.
(29:08):
This is enraging.
SPEAKER_02 (29:14):
All right, well, we would talk to Father Rehill if
uh searching someone we knowwould put us in contact with
him.
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
Mike.
The only thing keeping me fromjoining the Church of Anthony is
that you don't have thesacraments.
SPEAKER_02 (29:26):
Well, hold on, hold on.
We'll find uh we'll find a thuokline bishop to ordain them.
Yeah, it's not that hard.
SPEAKER_03 (29:36):
Uh if you time traveled yourself 10-15 years
ago, you wouldn't believe a wordof any of this.
Everyone needs to stop being theslow boiled frog.
Um I I I don't know, 15 years.
Um, yeah, no, this I mean, look,I was a Pope spleener up until
Francis, you know.
(29:56):
I mean, even early on in theFrancis pontificate, I was doing
that stuff.
It's just I I you know it tookit took it was it was not this
bad before Francis.
I'm telling you, it wasn't likeI I know the council and the
revolution and all that stuff,but you still had bishops paying
(30:16):
lip service to stuff beforeFrancis.
Like you really did.
You still had bishops paying lipservice to like life issues and
things like that.
So you felt like at least thechurch had your back when you
were fighting these battles.
We are literally on our own,guys.
We're on our own.
(30:37):
It's super, super frustrating.
SPEAKER_02 (30:40):
But it's exactly like that.
That tweet thread by umwhatever, whoever it was that we
read the other night.
You know, it's up to you.
You gotta be the bastard that'sthat's hell.
You gotta be the the the secondson who picks up a sword.
SPEAKER_03 (31:00):
That that's that's well and good, but there's not
much we could do about thesacrament.
Like these people, likeeverybody's saying, it's like we
don't have sacraments, you know.
Yeah, I'm I think I'm going toreach out to Father Dan Rehill.
Um uh my my my friend Tom uhsuggested that to me too.
Um, and maybe we could get himwith Mike uh now that Pantila is
(31:21):
over there.
But it's just you know, we're uhit's probably better that we did
this over here.
Uh I'm sorry guys.
I just I I got you know, I wasreading I was reading some of
the uh responses to my to mytweets today, and I thought I
(31:45):
had some pretty good tweets.
I honestly did.
I I know you guys hate when Ijust read my Twitter, but um no,
I had some good ones.
It was um uh where was uh likeblessed are the poor in spirit,
for they have been robbed of thetreasures of heaven by wicked
men, theirs is the kingdom ofheaven.
Uh and then the one I wrote, Isaid I'm supposed to believe the
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hierarchy cares about the poorwhen they've robbed us of the
greatest treasures.
And Chewy Yorkie says, Soridiculous, you were not robbed
of anything.
No, you respectfully the hawk,you were not robbed of anything
because you don't care what wastaken from you, you don't care
about exactly so you were notrobbed because you were part of
(32:29):
the revolution, and I don't evencare that I was robbed at this
point.
SPEAKER_02 (32:32):
It pisses me off that my children were robbed,
that I can't get them thefreaking mass, that I can't get
them baptized without goingeight-hour round trip out of our
way.
Are you freaking joking me?
SPEAKER_03 (32:44):
Then I got Forrest Womack saying this sounds like a
woman's complaint.
Isn't that a woman?
Okay, isn't she a woman?
And then Jeremy Jer JeremyDarling, um, they robbed us of
the Eucharist.
I I just like so that was how Icame down to like I that was
what I read before I came.
What did they robbed?
(33:04):
Because I say they robbed us ofthe treasures of the church,
they robbed us of the Eucharistbecause in their mind that's all
the mass is the as long as youwant to receive Jesus, it's all
the mass is you get Jesus,that's it.
You it's like I I went to masslast Sunday at uh uh society
chapel, and uh the I've beensick, so I went to bed that
(33:26):
night, and my air conditionerwas blowing right in my face,
and I woke up and like my eyeswere super red, my nose was
stuffy, I was so dehydrated, andI went to mass.
And when I tell you, like, I waslike so dehydrated that I didn't
receive communion because I wasafraid I would choke on the
host, like I was legit afraid Iwould choke on the host, and it
(33:47):
was of course a high mass thatwent for an hour and 45 minutes,
and I like the second he saidthe masses ended, I had to run
out to my car to get water.
That's how bad like I knowyou're allowed to drink water at
mass, right?
I didn't have one on me though,okay.
It was a drinking fountain.
I didn't, I like I don't gothere that often.
(34:08):
I didn't want to like I don'tknow if they had a water
fountain.
I would I I would have I couldhave gone to the bathroom and
like drank out of the sink, Iguess, but I just as soon as he
said the masses ended, I justshot out the door because they
were gonna do a procession afterI was like, Oh no, I can't, like
I can't, I'm not gonna make itso.
But I said that, and uh likepeople were like, I'd rather die
(34:29):
than not receive the Eucharist.
SPEAKER_02 (34:30):
It's like I honestly, guys, like you're not
even hardly Catholic at thatpoint, like you really not
actually don't need to receiveat mass.
SPEAKER_03 (34:39):
Like, you can go, like, I actually will do that,
even if I'm not in mortal sin attimes.
Like, I'll just go and I'll sitat mass and I won't receive
because I might not have theright disposition, right?
Because it's not about being inmortal sin.
I I might have not been payingattention at mass, and I just
don't have the rightdisposition.
Like, I take receiving veryseriously, and it's like if I if
I was distracted the whole mass,it's like I'm not gonna go up
and just go get my wafer.
(34:59):
That's not how it works.
SPEAKER_02 (35:00):
King King Louis IX went to mass twice a day, he
received the Eucharist six timesa year, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:08):
And that and that it's like like the the practice
of receiving every mass orespecially every day is very
recent.
Yeah, it's like 20th century,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (35:21):
And not not that not that that wasn't a good thing,
but people have taken it havetaken it way too far.
Like you said, not only are yousupposed to not be a mortal sin,
you like traditionally you needthe proper disposition, yeah,
which is why so I I don't go tonovus ordal masses anymore, but
even for the uh a while the lastyear or two that I did, I often
(35:44):
wouldn't receive at a Novusordalmass.
SPEAKER_03 (35:46):
Yeah, because you're frustrated the whole time, I was
angry.
Yeah, you're pissed off.
So, like you shouldn't actuallyreceive in that situation
because you you don't want to goup and have something against
your brother.
Like, if you have somethingagainst your brother, go leave
your gift at the altar and go gomake amends, you know.
And if you're angry at thepeople around you because
they're distracting you, thingslike that.
(36:07):
So, yeah, so that's why I didn'treceive something because I was
just like, Yeah, my my mind wasso distracted the entire mass
because I was so thirsty, and Iwas just like, all I could pay
attention to was how thirsty Iwas the whole mass.
And I was like, All right, I'mgonna sit through the whole
thing, but I didn't, you know, Ididn't receive.
SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
Um asked if I stayed kneeling or went up with my arms
crossed.
There's there's no reason to goget a blessing at the Eucharist.
You receive the same blessing atthe end of the mass as everyone
does, so to stay kneeling.
SPEAKER_03 (36:45):
Yeah, that's true.
Like the the priest blesses youat the end of Mass.
The same blessing.
SPEAKER_02 (36:52):
Matter of fact, it's more of a blessing, probably,
honestly, truthfully.
Um, whatever you do, if it's notthe priest at the line, then
definitely don't go up because adeacon can't bless you, a
Eucharistic minister can't blessyou.
Only a priest can bless you.
So extraordinary ministerblessings, and yeah, someone
(37:18):
goes when guys like Rob staykneeling, you can't get by them
in the pew.
That's too bad.
Like uh, like Marshall says,take up space, right?
SPEAKER_03 (37:30):
Um, all right.
Uh all right, we could we couldwrap this one.
Um, I was actually I we got inthe green room and I was like,
Rob, can we push this totomorrow?
Like we were very close to notdoing this show tonight, and uh
I don't know.
I I I'm very tired.
I've been sick for three weeks.
I really need rest.
SPEAKER_02 (37:48):
You've you've literally been sick since
Detroit.
Since Detroit, since I got homefrom Detroit.
It's been more than four weeksat this point.
SPEAKER_03 (37:55):
Since I got home from Detroit, the day I got home
from Detroit, I started feelingsick, and it got like
progressively worse.
Now my cough is gone.
Like I don't have that raspycough anymore, but um uh now I'm
now I have a cold.
SPEAKER_02 (38:10):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (38:11):
Yeah, all right.
We're gonna we're gonna wrapthis one up.
I saw it.
Yeah, and I can't read thewords.
SPEAKER_02 (38:19):
Um no, I can't read it.
I'm not reading them on air.
All right, all right.
SPEAKER_03 (38:25):
I'll try and read them.
Hang on.
Can I click on it and make itbigger?
SPEAKER_02 (38:28):
Click on it, it'll make it bigger.
SPEAKER_03 (38:30):
Um, it'd be a sin for him not to be as long as he
wears tweet.
Oh goodness.
All right, you guys are amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (38:42):
Well, yes, trading did get Anthony sick.
That's trading got me sick.
Trading got you sick.
SPEAKER_03 (38:49):
They put a curse on me when we we didn't jump.
Wait, who gotta call Holdsworth?
Is he sick too?
I think that's a good questionwe should ask.
Uh oh, Brian's gonna come onsoon.
I I reached out to him twice sofar, but he's been busy both
times.
But he's like he said uh he'sgoing to uh he's gonna come on
(39:10):
with us soon.
We I I want to get Brian on.
SPEAKER_02 (39:12):
Yeah, we gotta go gotta have him on.
Uh, we're gonna be on therundown next Friday.
SPEAKER_03 (39:17):
Next Friday, Rob and I will be on the rundown.
SPEAKER_02 (39:20):
Um then next no, not not next Saturday.
Saturday after is Maudsley.
You have you're on are youMonday unscripted or are they on
the Catholic Unscripted Monday?
SPEAKER_03 (39:33):
Man, we got a lot coming up.
Oh my goodness, we got a lotcoming up.
We're going to bed, guys.
I gotta get some sleep because Igot a lot of streaming coming
up.
Um, all right, we will see youguys on Tuesday.
unknown (39:44):
Take it.
SPEAKER_02 (39:44):
So are you on with them on Monday?
SPEAKER_03 (39:46):
I'm on with them Monday.
SPEAKER_02 (39:47):
Okay, so I don't have to make a stream or
anything like that.
Okay, no, that's all I needed toknow.
All right, okay.
You know what?
Screw the exit.
We're just
Okay, I think I'm live.
I think we're just waiting forAnthony to pop in.
I think he's here right now.
Okay, we're live.
SPEAKER_03 (00:10):
Okay.
Um all right, let's see.
Yeah, this uh the man.
This document there's nothingwrong in it.
It's like, oh, the whatever.
I didn't even read the whole,like I read excerpts from it,
and people are pointing stuffout, and I'm like, I just don't
(00:30):
care.
It's just so far removed fromanything that concerns me.
It's like the yes, the churchshould care for the poor, like
the church has always care forthe poor, the church should
actually care for migrants.
Like, this is what the churchhas always done.
It's the body of Christ, and andit's Christ's presence on earth.
So, yes, the church has to havea major charitable arm.
(00:53):
And yes, these this is thegospel, right?
Like the like the you go readthe Beatitudes, yes, that's what
this is.
SPEAKER_02 (01:00):
It's just I I don't see why a 97-page document was
needed for that in our day andage.
SPEAKER_03 (01:09):
It's like it's it's like this, Rob, because your
kids aren't teens yet.
Here's what here's what itreally is.
It's like my my kids think theirfather is out of his mind
because he doesn't let hisdaughters have Instagram, and
they think their father's out ofhis mind because he talks to
them about like all these issuesall the time, because there's no
(01:31):
support from the church for us.
Yeah, there's no support fromthe church for us, like there's
there's no nothing coming fromthe hierarchy talking to our
children about modesty in thisday and age and how dangerous it
is to let your image be put outthere because you are
responsible for your image thatyou put out there.
(01:52):
Like, there's no documents likelike backing up us parents who
are doing our freaking best toraise our children.
There's no help from themwhatsoever.
All there are are thesedocuments that come out to
basically confirm the bias ofthese liberal prelates in the
(02:15):
crap they're doing.
It's like you get this, you getthis confirmation in the in the
garbage that you guys are doing,and the Pope says, Oh, this
these atrocities that arehappening.
Yeah, it's like, yeah, okay, wegot to care for he.
Yeah, we have to make immigrantspart of our our community.
We cannot leave them out.
It's like I my entire Latin massparish is made up of brown kids.
(02:38):
Like they really are, they'repart of the community.
We don't cast them out becausethey're not white.
Like, what are you even talkingabout?
What are you even talking about?
I my company, there's 50 guysthat work there.
25 of them are from South andCentral America.
They barely speak English.
I'm friends with them.
I care about these men.
I work around poor people allday.
I buy them lunch all the time.
SPEAKER_02 (03:00):
Yeah, half this chat is brown kids.
SPEAKER_03 (03:02):
That's what that's but that's it, right?
Like half of our show, when wemeet our when we meet the people
who watch our show, they're notwhite.
Like, it's not this is not whatwe need help with at all.
SPEAKER_02 (03:13):
It's just we I mean, on one hand, yes, we live in a
time with probably one of thegreatest disparities of wealth
in history, right?
But at the same time, we alsolive in a time where the poorest
person in America, and Iunderstand that the world's
obviously more than America, butlet's just say the poorest
(03:34):
person in America has an eye.
Right, can can go get charityfrom literally almost anywhere.
And I'm not saying we shouldn'teven try to do more because of
course we should, we definitelyshould, but this isn't a time
and place where like we're notdealing with the the famines in
Somalia in you know the 19 early1990s, that it somehow the cause
(03:58):
for 80,000 Somalians now inMinneapolis.
SPEAKER_03 (04:01):
But like, like what even is a poor person at this
point, right?
Like like poverty looks verydifferent in America than it
does in India.
Like, what like what what aboutthe poor in spirit?
Like, listed are the poor inspirit because you had your
freaking liturgy robbed fromyou, and you're 25 of Gen Z is
is gay or trans, and we're we'rewe're worried about immigrants,
(04:24):
like no no no, and it's not justthat, it's like okay, we uh the
confirming these bishops intheir push for open borders,
it's like, yeah, let immigrantsin to the point.
SPEAKER_02 (04:34):
We know Greg, because that was only one out of
120 paragraphs.
SPEAKER_03 (04:38):
I understand, but the conversation is is very much
on this, right?
This is this is where the focusof the conversation is.
I'm sorry, but a quick video ofLeo speaking with those bishops
does more than this apostolicexhortation.
This 98-page apostolicexhortation will get way less
traction than that clip of Leomeeting with bishop seats,
(05:00):
confirming them in their workand telling them, yes, you go
and you you push against thisadministration.
You guys are opening thefreaking borders up and and
welcoming these people into thepoint where my own son cannot
afford to buy a home, right?
SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
And so much of this is more prudential issues than
it is moral, right?
Like, uh, because I imagine, andeven the part about immigrants,
probably that whole thing isprobably morally just fine, you
know, probably dogmatically justfine.
SPEAKER_03 (05:29):
Um, but prudentially, do they not
realize like this push thatthey're pushing for is actually
impoverishing more people thanit's impoverishing more,
impoverishing the the wealthiestnation in the world, dude.
More than that, it isdisintegrating any kind of
culture we have, and that's whatwe were like that's the point.
Like, you're opening up thefloodgates to foreigners, and
(05:51):
you're disintegrating theculture that actually could be
built to have my children haveCatholic friends, right?
I mean, they're don't haveCatholic friends because one
billion people in India.
SPEAKER_02 (06:04):
So, what you bring a hundred million of them here,
and does that help the other 900million plus in India?
No, but what it was, what does ahundred million of them here do?
SPEAKER_03 (06:14):
Destroys our whole nation, destroys any semblance
of community that we have witheach other.
Like, like they they put us in aposition where I can't even have
a community with my parishbecause we're all driving an
hour and a half to get there, soyou can't, it's not like your
kids can be friends with theirkids because they're driving
from an hour and a half in theopposite direction.
(06:34):
It's so wicked and evil whatthey're doing.
SPEAKER_02 (06:43):
The the whole Twin Cities metro is like 2.5
million, but the city ofMinneapolis itself is half a
million, 500,000.
20 of that city is now Somali.
unknown (06:52):
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (06:53):
20 or 20, one in five people are small.
SPEAKER_03 (06:59):
It's just a church so freaking out of touch with
what her sons and daughters needright now.
And I'm watching all theliberals go, oh, this is
amazing.
All that is is them gettingconfirmed in their liberal
politics.
So all you're doing, you're notactually gonna change anybody,
(07:20):
like you, you're just you I justI want to see something that
really does transcend politicsthat really does transcend
politics and actually calls usto something hard because it's
yeah, okay.
If you if you don't love thepoor, you're gonna go to hell,
is essentially what Leo'ssaying, and I agree with that.
But how about if you don't loveyour neighbor who has a
(07:41):
different political opinion thanyou?
Because if you hate yourbrother, you're going to hell.
And we're we're there is so muchanimosity.
People were asking in that lastvideo we did like, why are you
so nice to Mike Lewis?
Because I actually take thisstuff seriously.
That's why no, it's because Iactually do want to like treat
(08:09):
others the way they're supposedto be treated.
Like it's I'm not kidding.
It's it's it's like I need tofor and and not just that, I
want to actually understand theargument from their perspective.
I don't want to just yell acrossand call them an idiot.
I want to actually understandwhere they're coming from with
this.
I may disagree with them to thefoundation of my being, but I
(08:30):
should still be able to treatthem like a human being.
This is really like um the waywe all treat one another at this
point because of social mediaand stuff like that.
Like, how about give us howabout give us an exhortation on
that?
Like how to love someone youdisagree with, because that is
something that would be veryvaluable, and especially because
(08:52):
it should be pointed at theliberals who hate us.
Like we are like God has aspecial place in his heart for
the downtrodden and for thosewho are oppressed.
Like, you guys have done that tous.
(09:15):
Look, it's I'm I'm at a pointnow where I really do see like
all of this as it's going towork for our our our our good if
we if we handle it right.
Like if if we if we accept if wejust accept the suffering and
(09:38):
just love these people throughtheir punishment of us, which is
gonna be difficult.
It's gonna be very difficult.
But like you have to love thepeople who are who are being
awful to you.
Like uh 1 Peter 4.
SPEAKER_01 (09:53):
Man, uh let me say what's the actual verse.
SPEAKER_03 (09:56):
Uh um well, it's uh there's one in uh Ephesians 6.5.
SPEAKER_02 (10:06):
Uh Christ uh four is where they think it's strange.
Yeah, that's not true.
No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03 (10:12):
Ephesians 6.5, I think.
But there's another one in firstin 2 Peter, I think.
Ephesians 6.5.
Ephesians 6.5, verse Ephesians6, verse 5 through 9.
And then it's 1 Peter 2.18.
(10:34):
Actually, 1 Peter 2.18.
Let's go to that one.
They're saying similar things.
1 Peter 2.18, though.
This is this is important.
SPEAKER_02 (10:45):
Okay.
Uh I don't think this is right.
1 Peter 2.18.
Servants be subject to yourmasters with all fear, not only
to the good and gentle, but alsoto the froid.
SPEAKER_03 (11:01):
Yeah.
Slaves.
Like, love your masters, eventhe cruel ones.
Like submit, even the cruelones.
It's not easy, man.
Like we're being beaten, we'rebeing just tormented.
We're sitting here and we'rewatching our church taken over
(11:26):
by by awful people.
Like, you look at what thatbishop in Charlotte did, and all
I'm all I'm thinking is whileI'm watching that going on,
like, blessed are you that mournfor you will be comforted.
Like, yes, you guys aresuffering a death in Charlotte.
You will be comforted.
Like the Beatitudes, you go backand you read the Beatitudes,
(11:46):
like, they're so freakingimportant.
They really are.
And I know that's what like thiswhole thing that they're doing
with this document.
It's like they think they'reexhorting us to love the poor.
They're it's going to have theopposite effect, it's going to
make people revile them becausethere's real problems that are
occurring from the thingsthey're doing in our country,
(12:07):
and they're we're being told,shut up and take it, love them.
And it's like, yes, I know.
Like, I know, like, like youreally should see the face of
Christ in every person, right?
And especially like, like, youlook at what St.
Francis did with the lepers,like Saint Francis, he was
skeeved out by the lepers, so hehad like forced himself to go
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and like lay with them and touchthem, and he wound up falling in
love with them.
And it's a difficult thing to doto see the face of Christ in
every person, but you really arecalled to do that.
So, I have no issue with likethem exhorting us to love the
poor and care for everybody.
Like, that's fine, it's just soout of touch with what real
people are facing right now,with the amount of temptation
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and the and the amount of likethe demonic that's out here.
Like, what we really need is thechurch's supernatural graces
poured out right now, andthey're not do all they want us
focused on is the temporal.
SPEAKER_02 (13:02):
Um, not only are they not giving them to us,
they're ripping them away fromus, ripping them away from us.
Yeah, there are times andhappens fairly frequently where
like I get really, reallydiscouraged.
Um especially on weekends wherefor whatever reason, like we
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can't make the four-hour roundtrip drive to mass, right?
And like it's it's like youknow, as a as a husband and
father, and even just as aCatholic, all I want to do is go
to mass and worship God andreceive the sacraments and and
share that with my wife and andwith my kids, and yet the the
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the church is more or lessforcing me to it almost seems
like like it's almost like animpossible task, right?
SPEAKER_03 (13:59):
It's not just to make the drive, to get my kids
baptized, to your kids arelittle right now, they'll do
what you say.
What do you think is gonnahappen when you're 14 and you're
forcing them to go four hours ona Sunday?
They're gonna hate religion.
SPEAKER_02 (14:11):
Well, I know that's that's what discouraged that's
what really discourages me.
Is if it's this hard now, howhow much harder is it gonna be
when we have two, three morekids, and now Maddie's you know
12 years old, and I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (14:26):
Listen, I know most of our audience is younger, you
guys all have younger kids.
I'm telling you what it getslike when you get older, like
when the kids get older, like mykids love the Latin mass, but on
Sunday when we wake up and it'slike we gotta go drive an hour,
they're like, uh like it buildsa resentment that they have to
drive a freaking hour, andthey're like, Can't we just go
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to the Novus Oro?
It's so convenient.
It's like, no, we can't.
It it's it gets hard when theyget older and they become
teenagers.
It gets difficult when all yourkids' friends are able to do
things, and you're like, No,that's we're not doing that, and
they start thinking like thenCatholicism becomes burdensome,
and when they go to mass,they're not hearing the priests
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confirm the father in the thingsthat he's doing, they're not
hearing that from anywhere else,and they just think their
father's a freaking, you know,it's like this it gets difficult
when your kids get older, man.
I'm telling you, it's like Imean, my kids are all awesome
and they're grateful foreverything, and they they
whatever.
I'm just telling you, I knowwhat this is gonna be like for
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people.
It's easy when your kids arelittle because they kind of do
whatever you say, but once theystart getting it, you know, my
my my son's 19, my daughter's18, my other daughter's 14.
It gets gets tricky, like theywould rather just have it be.
Why can't we just go to thechurch that's around the block?
You know, it's just it's it's alot, and and it's it's wears to
worry about that in a few yearsbecause there probably won't be
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a church around the block.
But yeah, they're gonna shutdown half the parishes over the
next few years on top of that.
Yeah, even though even the NovaZordo is gonna be getting shut
down.
SPEAKER_02 (16:02):
Well, especially the Nova Zordo.
SPEAKER_03 (16:07):
Um, yeah, near nearest TLM is an hour and a
half and starts at 9 a.m.
So you gotta leave at 7 a.m.
to go to 9 a.m.
SPEAKER_02 (16:15):
I'd be okay with that.
I mean, yeah, we'd have to leaveat at 6:30 for us, but at least
then we could be home by youknow one.
Now it's we wake up, startgetting ready for mass, go to
mass.
By the time we're home, it'slike kids, time to get ready for
bed.
SPEAKER_03 (16:34):
Yeah, no, it's well, that's what it is.
It takes your entire day up, youknow, and it's like like so.
So I mean, what we do isespecially like if we're gonna
go into the city because it's anhour and 20 minutes, I'll take
them out and we'll do somethingin the city that day.
So I kind of make it anadventure, but that gets
expensive every freaking Sunday.
SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
Going out to eat in the city every Sunday because
you want it, like it's not I dowhat I do what I think it's 120
bucks to eat anywhere, but youknow, that's not fast food, and
fast food it's still 80, 90bucks.
SPEAKER_03 (17:03):
So what but that's what it turns into, and it's
like so so we go all the wayinto the city, and then we want
to go out to eat something afterbecause I want to make it spell
right.
Take them to go see something inNew York City so that they're
not like dreading going tochurch just for this just to go
to church for five hours oftheir day, right?
You know, that's like five, sixhours of their day because we
went to church.
It's a lot, that's all I'msaying.
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I'm not saying they don't do it,they do it, but it's a lot, and
it's it's just it gets tediousand it gets and it wears you
down.
Let's put let's play the thefull Nick clip because he he
gets into something that I likeI finally heard him vent the
same frustration that we allhave, which was happy to hear
it.
I was like, Finally, he's sayingwhat like because it's not just
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about immigration, it's aboutall these things that we always
talk about, and it wasrefreshing to hear him say it.
Cigar mode, pack a picnic, gosomeplace, and he's good.
Yeah, we do that too, but it'slike it what why should I have
to do that?
But no, I wouldn't mind doingthat.
Like, I want to spend the timewith my kids, it's not it's
fine, but like the things to doin New York, like you're not
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packing a picnic on a Sunday inin the winter.
I'm sorry, you're just not, youknow, like you have to like.
I mean, I've you know, me andNicole have taken the kids to
the museum, like I've taken themto the MoMA to go and see um uh
to go and see like uh uh what nothe Metropolitan Museum we've
taken them to, and I'll thenthen I'll spend the day like
showing them uh medievalChristian art and stuff like
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that.
It it is a fun, beautifulexperience.
It's just it should just be youwake up and you go to mass 10
minutes away.
It's just a lot.
SPEAKER_02 (18:37):
Yeah, it it doesn't help that in our day and age,
like you know, we we workoutside of the home, which is is
fairly like relatively recent inhistory where that was a thing
for even men, you know.
So I have two days a week to doanything around the house.
Yeah, and now when I go to mass,you know, when I go to the TLM,
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I now only have Saturdays.
Saturdays is the one day a weekI now have to do anything at
home.
SPEAKER_03 (19:03):
Yeah, and I'm telling I'm telling you, we got
a book of Father Maudleyinterview.
unknown (19:08):
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (19:11):
I was feeling so white pill.
Thank you, Anthony, forreminding me that all hope is
lost.
SPEAKER_02 (19:15):
I'm just saying here I am saying how hard it is,
thinking maybe you'll give mesome sort of advice to make it
you know better.
You're like, no, man, it's gonnaget way worse.
SPEAKER_03 (19:23):
No, I'm just I honestly, this this exhortation,
especially seeing the peoplelike oh, seeing every everybody
like even like I love Wagner, Ilove him, but he's like, This
isn't just like a Marxistdocument, he says some really
good things, and I'm like, I'msure he does, but sure he says
some good things.
The Pope, I would hope he sayssome good things in it.
(19:46):
I would hope the Pope said a fewgood things in his apostolic
exhortation.
It's very cool.
I just would like to see somethings that actually matter to
us.
SPEAKER_02 (19:54):
We have 900,000 kids being aborted a year in the US,
we have 50,000 Nigerians beingslaughtered a year by Muslims in
Nigeria, and yet we're worriedabout the not that we should
worry about the poor.
SPEAKER_03 (20:08):
I don't want to downplay that.
Like, we like I know, like, yes,we should love the poor.
The church is doing a good thingin its missionary spirit and
caring for the poor.
Like, yes, yes, of course, it'sthe church, the church has
always done this.
You go back and you go back intothe early church, and that's
literally how they converted theworld, is by caring for the the
throwaways of the culture, andit was so appealing that the
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pagan the pagan priests wouldpretend they cared about the
poor.
Like it is a beautiful thing,it's a good way to evangelize
too, and you're showing theworld what love is like you love
one another, that's how they'llknow us by our love.
Yes, that's all good, but we'rein a very unique point in time
right now where the culture isdegrading around us, there's
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evil everywhere, and we need thechurch's supernatural gifts, and
they're depriving us of it, andit's really, really frustrating.
And all they're doing is takingpolitical stances that cause
havoc, always with the wrong endof the political spectrum with
these guys because they justwant to be confirmed in their
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bias and be told, look, it'sdude, it's the seamless garment
stuff.
It's like, well, thoseconservatives, they're they're
first of all, I hate capitalism.
So like it's not I don't evencare that he's critiquing
capitalism.
Capitalism sucks, we're allslaves.
Like it's fine, he's not he'snot not pushing socialism.
Like, you're gonna get you'regonna get boomers who are like
this is socialist Marxism.
(21:33):
No, the church has neveractually been for unfettered
capitalism, like it just hasn't.
It's not good.
It's it it makes everybody acommodity, and you're just a
wheel and a cog.
I'm all fine with like trying tofigure out a better system, but
it's just well, there was athird way, but World War II had
to go and screw that up, yeah.
Right.
All right, let's play the fourat this clip.
SPEAKER_00 (21:59):
Why is it that the Pope is always undermining U.S.
immigration policy?
Because now I see Catholicpriests in Chicago and they're
doing like protests against thedeportations, and they're doing
that because they're emboldenedby the Pope.
The Pope sets the tone, and nowyou have ecclesiastical
authority, you know, the clergyin America that are that are
(22:23):
protesting this politicaldecision.
And it's like, you know, you arethe vicar of Christ on earth for
a heavenly kingdom.
I don't know where Jesus gaveyou the authority to tell us who
we can and can't let in ourcountry.
You know, these people are hereillegally.
They're fucking gang members.
Trump is not doing massdeportations, okay?
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These buildings that he'sraiding, these are gang members.
These are violent gang members,these are people with a criminal
record.
Uh that so what is actuallyCatholic about letting people
come here illegally?
They're invading our fuckingcountry, and they're gangsters.
Why do what is Catholic abouttolerating that?
And you see, for example, inChicago, ICE did a raid on this
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apartment building and it wasfilled with squatters.
It was filled with trendy Araguasquatters where they installed
their own deadbolt locks.
There's like sitting water inthe hallways.
They're like taking a livingfrom the exit signs.
It's like the whole building,it's squalor.
(23:29):
There's they're squatters.
They're not even living in thebuilding legally.
They're not living in ourcountry legally.
They get rounded up and kickedout, and the Pope is going to
take a position and say, well,you know, that's not pro-life.
Hey, man, you know, just thebread and wine, please.
Hold the opinions.
And I hate to speak soflippantly about that as one of
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the rare occasions that I willcriticize the Pope, because I
think a lot of people love topick on the Pope and criticize
the Pope, but it's it's grading.
It's little grating.
And, you know, I would just lovefor the Pope to take a firm
stand on some of these otherissues, too.
You know, is there any statementon Charlie Kirk getting
(24:12):
murdered?
Is there any statement on, youknow, these radical left people
that are in favor oftransgenderism?
How about feminism?
How about contraceptives?
How about abortion?
I feel like there's about 50things the left is doing that
are far more heinous before youget to like the Republican
immigration policy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, think of all the gravematters of morals and theology
in America (24:35):
the apostasy, the idolatry, the blasphemy, the
killing, the abortion, thepornography, the sexual sins,
the disordered nature of thesexes and their relationship.
And you're gonna weigh in andsay, well, shining up, these
deportations are the problem.
Okay, man.
So I think sounds like avoidingBible.
(24:58):
What's going on here?
Respectfully, I say that withreverence for the audience.
Yeah, I say it with reverenceand everything, but it's it's
it's a little bit out of line.
And it starts to get irritatingwhen Catholics in America are
starting to undermine thisbecause the Pope has taken the
lead on it in this way.
It's like that's not helping,actually.
(25:19):
You're not actually helping.
SPEAKER_03 (25:21):
It's amazing that you cracked under Leo and not
Francis, though.
I'm just like you cracking underLeo.
This is child's play for what wedealt with the past 10 years.
No, God bless you, Nick.
I'm glad you spoke speaking outabout because this stuff is
real, like this is importantstuff.
The things that the culture isactually facing go unaddressed,
(25:42):
and we hear platitudes, we hearplatitudes that confirm these
liberal bishops in theirdecision to support liberal
politicians, even though thefreaking we just had uh a
lunatic caught at a at a churchin DC with 200 bombs about to
bomb another Catholic church andtry to kill the Catholic uh
(26:05):
Supreme Court justice.
No, but let's let's let's let'sget on let's get on the re let's
get on those conservativesbecause they're they're for
getting you know cleaning theircountry up and getting
immigrants out.
Like this is insane.
This is absolute insanity.
I love the freaking church, Ilove the church.
(26:28):
What has happened to the church?
Not the church, the church isholy and impeccable, the bride
of Christ.
What the hell has happened tothe hierarchy?
They're a bunch of gaycommunists, literally, like
that's what we're what it is theinfiltrate like the infiltration
(26:51):
of these people into thehierarchy of our church is oh,
how long, Lord?
How long, how long before 20 to30 years, probably.
Please, Lord, don't make usendure this for much longer.
(27:11):
Oh but no, but yeah, all right.
So, yeah, immigration is thething that finally set him off.
But he did say all those otherthings, like the the issue.
That's what the he actuallyencompassed exactly what I'm
talking about, right?
This document is talking aboutthe poor, and yes, we need to
care for the poor.
Nobody's denying that, but likethe other things he just
(27:33):
mentioned there are the thingsactually facing our culture, the
things that us parents who aretrying to raise our children
Catholic are left on our own.
We are alone, we do not have anyanyone in the clergy supporting
us and trying to do what's rightby our children.
SPEAKER_02 (27:50):
We literally have have anarchist Satanists trying
to brainwash our kids over theinternet with with gay trans
furry porn so that they can goand and kill Catholic kids in
church.
Like that literally freakinghappened in the last six.
SPEAKER_03 (28:07):
I honestly don't want to hear it about like
Catholic podcasters like theclergy has abandoned you.
I'm sorry, I'm the only freakingpastor you guys have at this
point.
It sucks.
It sucks.
You have a freaking YouTubepastor, guys.
I feel bad for you.
(28:29):
This is where we're at.
You're stuck with me as yourfreaking, as you're as your
moral, as you're we're aministry, we're a ministry,
guys.
SPEAKER_02 (28:44):
Ministerial apostolate.
SPEAKER_03 (28:47):
And that one is loft in arc.
Oh man, Father Anthony.
No, I'm not look, you might geta good uh SSPX priest, you might
get I'm just I'm not like ahman, it's just the church should
be speaking about this stuff.
(29:08):
This is enraging.
SPEAKER_02 (29:14):
All right, well, we would talk to Father Rehill if
uh searching someone we knowwould put us in contact with
him.
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
Mike.
The only thing keeping me fromjoining the Church of Anthony is
that you don't have thesacraments.
SPEAKER_02 (29:26):
Well, hold on, hold on.
We'll find uh we'll find a thuokline bishop to ordain them.
Yeah, it's not that hard.
SPEAKER_03 (29:36):
Uh if you time traveled yourself 10-15 years
ago, you wouldn't believe a wordof any of this.
Everyone needs to stop being theslow boiled frog.
Um I I I don't know, 15 years.
Um, yeah, no, this I mean, look,I was a Pope spleener up until
Francis, you know.
(29:56):
I mean, even early on in theFrancis pontificate, I was doing
that stuff.
It's just I I you know it tookit took it was it was not this
bad before Francis.
I'm telling you, it wasn't likeI I know the council and the
revolution and all that stuff,but you still had bishops paying
(30:16):
lip service to stuff beforeFrancis.
Like you really did.
You still had bishops paying lipservice to like life issues and
things like that.
So you felt like at least thechurch had your back when you
were fighting these battles.
We are literally on our own,guys.
We're on our own.
(30:37):
It's super, super frustrating.
SPEAKER_02 (30:40):
But it's exactly like that.
That tweet thread by umwhatever, whoever it was that we
read the other night.
You know, it's up to you.
You gotta be the bastard that'sthat's hell.
You gotta be the the the secondson who picks up a sword.
SPEAKER_03 (31:00):
That that's that's well and good, but there's not
much we could do about thesacrament.
Like these people, likeeverybody's saying, it's like we
don't have sacraments, you know.
Yeah, I'm I think I'm going toreach out to Father Dan Rehill.
Um uh my my my friend Tom uhsuggested that to me too.
Um, and maybe we could get himwith Mike uh now that Pantila is
(31:21):
over there.
But it's just you know, we're uhit's probably better that we did
this over here.
Uh I'm sorry guys.
I just I I got you know, I wasreading I was reading some of
the uh responses to my to mytweets today, and I thought I
(31:45):
had some pretty good tweets.
I honestly did.
I I know you guys hate when Ijust read my Twitter, but um no,
I had some good ones.
It was um uh where was uh likeblessed are the poor in spirit,
for they have been robbed of thetreasures of heaven by wicked
men, theirs is the kingdom ofheaven.
Uh and then the one I wrote, Isaid I'm supposed to believe the
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hierarchy cares about the poorwhen they've robbed us of the
greatest treasures.
And Chewy Yorkie says, Soridiculous, you were not robbed
of anything.
No, you respectfully the hawk,you were not robbed of anything
because you don't care what wastaken from you, you don't care
about exactly so you were notrobbed because you were part of
(32:29):
the revolution, and I don't evencare that I was robbed at this
point.
SPEAKER_02 (32:32):
It pisses me off that my children were robbed,
that I can't get them thefreaking mass, that I can't get
them baptized without goingeight-hour round trip out of our
way.
Are you freaking joking me?
SPEAKER_03 (32:44):
Then I got Forrest Womack saying this sounds like a
woman's complaint.
Isn't that a woman?
Okay, isn't she a woman?
And then Jeremy Jer JeremyDarling, um, they robbed us of
the Eucharist.
I I just like so that was how Icame down to like I that was
what I read before I came.
What did they robbed?
(33:04):
Because I say they robbed us ofthe treasures of the church,
they robbed us of the Eucharistbecause in their mind that's all
the mass is the as long as youwant to receive Jesus, it's all
the mass is you get Jesus,that's it.
You it's like I I went to masslast Sunday at uh uh society
chapel, and uh the I've beensick, so I went to bed that
(33:26):
night, and my air conditionerwas blowing right in my face,
and I woke up and like my eyeswere super red, my nose was
stuffy, I was so dehydrated, andI went to mass.
And when I tell you, like, I waslike so dehydrated that I didn't
receive communion because I wasafraid I would choke on the
host, like I was legit afraid Iwould choke on the host, and it
(33:47):
was of course a high mass thatwent for an hour and 45 minutes,
and I like the second he saidthe masses ended, I had to run
out to my car to get water.
That's how bad like I knowyou're allowed to drink water at
mass, right?
I didn't have one on me though,okay.
It was a drinking fountain.
I didn't, I like I don't gothere that often.
(34:08):
I didn't want to like I don'tknow if they had a water
fountain.
I would I I would have I couldhave gone to the bathroom and
like drank out of the sink, Iguess, but I just as soon as he
said the masses ended, I justshot out the door because they
were gonna do a procession afterI was like, Oh no, I can't, like
I can't, I'm not gonna make itso.
But I said that, and uh likepeople were like, I'd rather die
(34:29):
than not receive the Eucharist.
SPEAKER_02 (34:30):
It's like I honestly, guys, like you're not
even hardly Catholic at thatpoint, like you really not
actually don't need to receiveat mass.
SPEAKER_03 (34:39):
Like, you can go, like, I actually will do that,
even if I'm not in mortal sin attimes.
Like, I'll just go and I'll sitat mass and I won't receive
because I might not have theright disposition, right?
Because it's not about being inmortal sin.
I I might have not been payingattention at mass, and I just
don't have the rightdisposition.
Like, I take receiving veryseriously, and it's like if I if
I was distracted the whole mass,it's like I'm not gonna go up
and just go get my wafer.
(34:59):
That's not how it works.
SPEAKER_02 (35:00):
King King Louis IX went to mass twice a day, he
received the Eucharist six timesa year, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:08):
And that and that it's like like the the practice
of receiving every mass orespecially every day is very
recent.
Yeah, it's like 20th century,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (35:21):
And not not that not that that wasn't a good thing,
but people have taken it havetaken it way too far.
Like you said, not only are yousupposed to not be a mortal sin,
you like traditionally you needthe proper disposition, yeah,
which is why so I I don't go tonovus ordal masses anymore, but
even for the uh a while the lastyear or two that I did, I often
(35:44):
wouldn't receive at a Novusordalmass.
SPEAKER_03 (35:46):
Yeah, because you're frustrated the whole time, I was
angry.
Yeah, you're pissed off.
So, like you shouldn't actuallyreceive in that situation
because you you don't want to goup and have something against
your brother.
Like, if you have somethingagainst your brother, go leave
your gift at the altar and go gomake amends, you know.
And if you're angry at thepeople around you because
they're distracting you, thingslike that.
(36:07):
So, yeah, so that's why I didn'treceive something because I was
just like, Yeah, my my mind wasso distracted the entire mass
because I was so thirsty, and Iwas just like, all I could pay
attention to was how thirsty Iwas the whole mass.
And I was like, All right, I'mgonna sit through the whole
thing, but I didn't, you know, Ididn't receive.
SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
Um asked if I stayed kneeling or went up with my arms
crossed.
There's there's no reason to goget a blessing at the Eucharist.
You receive the same blessing atthe end of the mass as everyone
does, so to stay kneeling.
SPEAKER_03 (36:45):
Yeah, that's true.
Like the the priest blesses youat the end of Mass.
The same blessing.
SPEAKER_02 (36:52):
Matter of fact, it's more of a blessing, probably,
honestly, truthfully.
Um, whatever you do, if it's notthe priest at the line, then
definitely don't go up because adeacon can't bless you, a
Eucharistic minister can't blessyou.
Only a priest can bless you.
So extraordinary ministerblessings, and yeah, someone
(37:18):
goes when guys like Rob staykneeling, you can't get by them
in the pew.
That's too bad.
Like uh, like Marshall says,take up space, right?
SPEAKER_03 (37:30):
Um, all right.
Uh all right, we could we couldwrap this one.
Um, I was actually I we got inthe green room and I was like,
Rob, can we push this totomorrow?
Like we were very close to notdoing this show tonight, and uh
I don't know.
I I I'm very tired.
I've been sick for three weeks.
I really need rest.
SPEAKER_02 (37:48):
You've you've literally been sick since
Detroit.
Since Detroit, since I got homefrom Detroit.
It's been more than four weeksat this point.
SPEAKER_03 (37:55):
Since I got home from Detroit, the day I got home
from Detroit, I started feelingsick, and it got like
progressively worse.
Now my cough is gone.
Like I don't have that raspycough anymore, but um uh now I'm
now I have a cold.
SPEAKER_02 (38:10):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (38:11):
Yeah, all right.
We're gonna we're gonna wrapthis one up.
I saw it.
Yeah, and I can't read thewords.
SPEAKER_02 (38:19):
Um no, I can't read it.
I'm not reading them on air.
All right, all right.
SPEAKER_03 (38:25):
I'll try and read them.
Hang on.
Can I click on it and make itbigger?
SPEAKER_02 (38:28):
Click on it, it'll make it bigger.
SPEAKER_03 (38:30):
Um, it'd be a sin for him not to be as long as he
wears tweet.
Oh goodness.
All right, you guys are amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (38:42):
Well, yes, trading did get Anthony sick.
That's trading got me sick.
Trading got you sick.
SPEAKER_03 (38:49):
They put a curse on me when we we didn't jump.
Wait, who gotta call Holdsworth?
Is he sick too?
I think that's a good questionwe should ask.
Uh oh, Brian's gonna come onsoon.
I I reached out to him twice sofar, but he's been busy both
times.
But he's like he said uh he'sgoing to uh he's gonna come on
(39:10):
with us soon.
We I I want to get Brian on.
SPEAKER_02 (39:12):
Yeah, we gotta go gotta have him on.
Uh, we're gonna be on therundown next Friday.
SPEAKER_03 (39:17):
Next Friday, Rob and I will be on the rundown.
SPEAKER_02 (39:20):
Um then next no, not not next Saturday.
Saturday after is Maudsley.
You have you're on are youMonday unscripted or are they on
the Catholic Unscripted Monday?
SPEAKER_03 (39:33):
Man, we got a lot coming up.
Oh my goodness, we got a lotcoming up.
We're going to bed, guys.
I gotta get some sleep because Igot a lot of streaming coming
up.
Um, all right, we will see youguys on Tuesday.
unknown (39:44):
Take it.
SPEAKER_02 (39:44):
So are you on with them on Monday?
SPEAKER_03 (39:46):
I'm on with them Monday.
SPEAKER_02 (39:47):
Okay, so I don't have to make a stream or
anything like that.
Okay, no, that's all I needed toknow.
All right, okay.
You know what?
Screw the exit.
We're just
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