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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm going to put the um the stream yard link in the
YouTube description and we'rejust going to let random people
pop on the show and ask advicequestions.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good evening.
My name is Ben.
I'm a long time listener, Firsttime caller.
I just wanted to say I cannothold my tongue any longer.
I think you, Anthony, andespecially Rob, need to lighten
up on all the antisemitism.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Israel is our greatest ally whether you like
it or not, it's gay.
Stop it, all right.
Ladies and gentlemen, pappynever disappoints, ever so all
right.
So here's the thing I have beenum mulling this idea of a of a
like an advice show aroundbecause I've been watching hate

(00:46):
watching.
Hate watching john deloney fromthe dave ramsey show, like when
I tell you, hate watching, likeevery single thing.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
This guy like, just how, like the pipe cottage, hate
, hate, watches us yes, it'sactually exactly what he does.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Pipe cottage comes in our chat, in our comments, and
he just tells us how we're notcatholic every episode.
This guy's been catholic for 10minutes and he wants to lecture
us on what it means to becatholic.
It's amazing, pipe cottage.
We know you watch every episode.
You can't help it.
It's.
I do the same thing.
I don't even blame you.
I do the same thing with johndeloney.

(01:19):
This guy drives me nuts.
He'll talk to a woman.
John deloney, john del.
He will talk to a woman for 30seconds and within 30 seconds
he'll convince her that she'sbeing abused and he'll tell her
you need to go see a lawyer, youneed to file for divorce.
This is supposedly a Christianbased financial advice show.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
He can't be that Christian.
He was on with Lila Rose.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Wow, financial advice show.
Can't be that Christian.
He was on with Lila Rose.
Wow, that's even more ruthlessthan my line last night.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
No, you said, she's one of the most evil people in
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I thought I saw John and Lila were all together.
It's like a combination of thetwo most evil people in history.
That is worse than what I said.
Yes, but I was funny and gentle.
You're just.
I don't know when you make,when you make, mean-spirited
jokes.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
They're just so mean, I don't know, I know, but they
make you laugh.
You love them all right.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
So so we all right, we're gonna play two.
We're gonna play two instancesof like horrible advice that
I've seen in the past couple ofdays, and then what we're going
to do.
So then yesterday I saw keithnester.
Well, welcome to avoidingbabylon everybody.
We don't even do introductionson this show anymore.
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(02:35):
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Share the show.
So, um, I saw keith Nestoryesterday on his Monday live
stream.
He just posts the StreamYardlink and pins it as the top
comment.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
He has a trustworthy audience.
That is very true.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
That is very true, so but OK, so I'm going to lay
some ground rules down for youguys.
I don't want debates.
This isn't the Jay Dyer show,right?
I don't want people coming onto argue, debate stuff like that
, the set of a contest that arein the chat.
If one of you guys want to justpop on and talk for a second,

(03:16):
I'm fine with that.
I don't want to debate set of acontest right now.
I'm going on Friday with NovusOrdo Watch.
I'm doing a stream with NovusAutowatch on Friday.
After that we have thethree-day weekend because of
Labor Day.
If you guys want to do a showon Monday, I'm open to that.
So if all you guys are in hereand you're thinking this is your
chance to come on and roastAnthony, let's not do that

(03:38):
tonight.
I will give you guys anopportunity to do that.
Maybe I'll jump on streammonday night and do something
similar.
And if you guys want to come onand engage me, I'm totally open
to that.
I just don't want to like havethis whole show tonight be a
complete fiasco and I'll juststraight up ban you so yeah,
right, and and rob's not theright guy to have on if you guys
want to like we'll just do thatI'll do that with you guys solo

(04:00):
, so, but what I am hoping foris, um, like I'm dealing with
something in with a familymember right now, where this
person was, uh, clearly upsetwith me for a couple of months
but has been to my face,understanding like everything is
fine.
Things like that, huh no,nothing so with the person was

(04:27):
pretending.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
You know what's funny , you know who was in our chat
last night?
A lot without you there.
Who your brother, joey?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
was he?
Yeah, oh, that's funny.
So this family member was, youknow, like pretending like
everything was fine and it kindof came out yesterday.
I'll share that show on localsbecause I would actually like to
hear an outsider's perspectiveon how I should handle that,
because part of me is likeenraged by it and I kind of just
want to pop off and be like youknow what all the crap?

(04:54):
I've dealt with with thisperson for this long and like I
just want to kind of vent.
And then the other part of meis like all right, maybe how
should I handle thisrelationship-wise, because I
actually care about this personand I don't want it to blow up
like that.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
So if somebody has something like that, if you have
a question about the Catholicfaith, Maybe on Locals we should
have Cale hop on and be theco-host and you be the caller
and he'll give you advice.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
That could work.
I can ask Cale.
I can ask Cale for some advice,that would be good.
Ask kale for some advice, thatwould be good.
Um, so the the idea.
Yeah, if you're, if you're aprotestant watching and you have
some questions aboutcatholicism, we're totally open
to that.
If uh, uh, yeah, like whatever,if you I don't know somebody
said like uh, what are yourthoughts on the knights of
columbus?
Something like that, now here'sthe thing you can.
So when we put the stream yardlink up, you guys are going to

(05:39):
go in the green room.
I think you have the option toturn your camera on or just your
microphone, like if you remainanonymous.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
You can remain anonymous because, especially,
there'll be a camera icon youcan click and it'll turn the
camera off and it'll.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
It'll just be like this, basically right so if you
are worried about beinganonymous, you can be anonymous.
What I would suggest to anybodythat does come in put your
twitter handle as your name or,or, if you're in the chat, your
your chat name and you put ingrover.
I can make sure not to let youon well, I would say, put your
twitter handle because it's agood advertisement for your

(06:14):
twitter handle right, like, ifyou want to grow your twitter,
it's a good opportunity to popon, grow your twitter handle a
little.
Maybe some people from the chatwill actually follow you.
Um, what we're going to do, rob?
I want you to post the linkfirst to you, uh, to locals,
members and youtube I'll do itto telegram locals and youtube
members so so those are thefirst dibs.

(06:35):
Okay, so it's going to be locals, members, youtube members and
our telegram chat, because mostof the people that are on locals
are in our telegram, so they'regoing to get first dibs.
If we don't have anybody thatwants to come on, then we will
open it up to the wider chat.
Um, elijah says I want to growmy, I want to grow my twitter.

(06:57):
So jay dyer to base.
I think jay actually said toelijah bro, your twitter's not
even big enough for me, becauseelijah wanted to have jay on his
channel and jay kind ofinsulted him I'm posting the
link now, but no one joinedquite yet okay, so we're going
to play the two clips of advicethat we have just to give you
guys a little example of kind ofthe stuff that was enraging me

(07:19):
this week, and then, uh, yeah,and then we'll get into.
Like you know, maybe you have agirlfriend who's accusing you of
emotional abuse or something.
I don't know, becauseapparently this is a thing.
Now.
There's a such thing asemotional abuse, financial abuse
, it's financial infidelity.
I never knew this.
Uh, there's, I mean, these areall these terms that I've

(07:39):
learned in the past few weeks.
So, um, yeah, I would like to.
I would like to dive into someof this stuff.
The Zealots Dan, I saw youcommenting on one of our last
videos.
If you're on Twitter, let meknow who you are on Twitter and
you can send me a DM and we cantry to set it up if you guys
want me to come on with you.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
If you're not on Twitter, just email team at
avoidingbabyloncom.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I'm always open to helping guys that are trying
to get something going, like alot of people helped us when we
were getting going.
So if you guys are trying toget something going, I'm always
I'm always open to helping theyounger guys out, especially.
So All right, so let's play thefirst John Deloney clip.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
See people are already popping in.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
We guys are already popping in.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Why see?
People are already popping in?
We guys are already popping in.
Why huh it's?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
true facebook, facebook, how we lose facebook I
don't know, not a big lossthere, but, yeah, it's not a big
loss as long as it's not, uh,one of the one of the big ones.
Oh, my goodness, we got guyspopping in already.
All right, guys, just hang inthe green room.
We'll tell you when it's yourturn to come up.
You guys just sit and sit tightand hang in the green room.
We have people already ready toask questions.
Oh, it's been a while.

(08:49):
It has been a long time.
We're gonna have to get allright.
You know what?
We'll have to get crypto onfirst.
Yeah, we'll get crypto on first.
Um, play the john deloney clipreal quick and then we'll go
right.
We're gonna go right to cryptodo, uh, is it crypto ducket or
crypto ducat?
We'll have to ask him.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
We'll have to ask him okay, let me uh, all right
anybody in the green room.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Just sit tight.
You guys are on deck, you're inthe lineup, you guys are coming
on.
Everybody on the um.
Man, they got a lot of dude.
That's funny, did you?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
remove facebook?
No, there's no reason to removeit, it's just not working.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
All right, I was blocking my screens, all right.
So let's play that clip realquick and then we'll get to
crypto ducat.

Speaker 8 (09:30):
He's first on deck can you be real honest with me?
Sure, uh, is he abusive noemotionally I don't let him be
emotionally abusive that soundsreally tough and cool and I
appreciate you reflecting.
Is he emotionally abusive?

Speaker 7 (09:47):
I don't know, I really don't know if I can
answer that like I sometimes.
Let me put it struggling to sayyes because I don't really want
to say yeah there you go.
I don't know if I could.

Speaker 8 (09:57):
I don't want to say yes okay, I will leave you to
deal with your reality, but youknow the truth, I think they
call that a.
You also know that guys canwrap themselves up and I'm a
good guy and they can be hyperabusive without ever saying a
word.
All right, can you be?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
real.
This isn't.
No, no, this isn't a leadingquestion.
This woman was totally fine.
I'm not abusive.
My guy's a good guy and he justconvinced that woman.
She's being abused like that'spsychotic.
That's not just like that, istotally psychotic.
So I think, personally, I cangive better advice than john
deloney.
I think I just think I can.

(10:31):
So, all right, we lost crypto,duck it no, he's there oh, he's
there okay so he's first on deckwe are going except crypto.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
You need to connect a microphone or camera.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
One or the other.
You don't have to put your faceup.
I can't add you.
Okay, so you want to pick Lukeor Roman Wins, which one?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
K.
Luke was first, so we'll startwith him.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Let's see All right, k Luke, welcome to the program.
Your mic is muted.
You will not be able to ask thequestion until you unmute your
mic.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Still muted.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Mic is muted.
Hey, what's up guys.
There you go.
How are you doing, luke?
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (11:19):
No, still Okay.
No, we can hear you.
No, we hear you.
Can you hear me now?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (11:29):
Can you hear us?
Hey, sorry, there's a littlebit of a lag here no problem
look can you hear?

Speaker 1 (11:41):
us, his wife peter, can you hear us?
Can you hear us, because wehear you fine.

Speaker 9 (11:44):
Well, anyways, my question for you guys.
I thought Rob might like thisone.
He's got quite a lag.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
He's like two minutes behind.

Speaker 9 (12:01):
Sorry, this lag is like super long, it's like 10 or
15 seconds, but okay anyway.
Anyway, um, uh, if, if you guyscould go back um and actually
uh, redo.
You know some of the thingsthat you did initially when you
guys were fathers, um, whatwould it be, uh?

(12:23):
And you can't do two things,obviously.
One is you can't say teach thefaith or something really
obvious like that, um, and youcan't say co-sleeping um so
anything else?
uh, that would be awesome.
Uh, just any advice that youguys would have for for being a
father okay, those are actually.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
That's actually really good questions.
What would I go back and dodifferently?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
You're kind of in a different situation than me.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, yeah, because you're there.
Now it's more of a question forme, because my kids are older.
Homeschooling would be numberone Right off the bat.
Homeschooling would be numberone because when I first came
back to the bat, homeschoolingwould be number one because when
I, when I first came back tothe church, it wasn't nearly as
crazy as the schools are now andI really didn't know how much

(13:14):
just between feminism and theMarxist culture that that public
school actually indoctrinatesour children with public school
actually indoctrinates ourchildren with Um.
I would absolutely have, likefrom the beginning, tried to do
everything I could to set mywife up, maybe joined a
homeschooling community orsomething like that.
Um, that's, that's the firstthing I would do, um, and the

(13:39):
second thing, um.
Man, these are, these are hardquestions.
I wish I had a minute toactually think about them.
You haven't.
You have anything else at thetop of your head.
You're thinking, rob uh.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
so for me with our first um hope was my wife was
still working at the time andworked for uh about well for two
years, and so my, my second,third and now my fourth kids
have had their mom at home allthe time.
My first one, my oldest, didn't, and there's definitely more

(14:10):
anxiety in him, whether that'sjust him by nature or part of
not having his mom home with himall the time.
I really think it's a largepart due to that.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
So I would definitely have gotten hope out of work
much sooner than we did.
I definitely would have usedbooks like the Golden Legend and
I would have definitelyintroduced my children more to
the lives of the saints and readthem more scripture, so like we
did daily rosaries, things likethat.

(14:56):
But I probably would havetweaked the way I introduced
scripture and the saints to mychildren.
Those would be two things.
So those are very goodquestions.
Luke, do you have any follow up?

Speaker 9 (15:19):
We can wait a minute.
Sorry for the delay there.
No, that's, that's pretty muchall Um.
I had, um, my my son wasactually born a week ago, and
two days after that, or two daysbefore, rather, my father
passed.
So it's been like a crazycouple of weeks for me and yeah,
so it's been a crazy week andyeah, if you guys could just

(15:40):
pray for Elijah, my son, that'dbe awesome and yeah, yeah, we'll
definitely do that.
All right, rob.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, if you guys could just pray for, for elijah,
uh, my son.
That'd be awesome and uh, yeah,yeah, all right.
All right, rob, we're gonna,we're gonna cut him because,
just because of the delay, it'stoo difficult to have a back and
forth with him.
But, yeah, luke, absolutely so,luke, luke actually dn'd me, um
, when his son was born andstuff.
So, keep, keep luke and hisfamily in your prayers.
Um, that was a.
Those are really good questions.
Those are way more, uh, waybetter than I thought we were

(16:07):
gonna get.
Okay, you want to?
You want to go to roman, or iscrypto ready?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
uh, I don't see crypto on the list all right,
let's go to roman what's up boys?

Speaker 11 (16:21):
first time long time what's happening, brother, uh?
roman wins.
Uh, I follow you on twitter.
I'm also a local supporter, Iguess, uh, but uh, thank you,
that was a great answer.
Married 21 years, I got two.
I got two kids in their 20 and17.
So I I completely co-signedthat advice you just gave.
I wish I homeschooled earlierand I wish I imported more

(16:42):
scripture in my younglings.
But what can you do?
But basically, I guess myquestion is it a question?
Is it a question?
I don't know if it's a question, it's more of a statement.
I'm a I'm a 22 year militaryintelligence analyst working in
the deep Middle East my wholecareer.

(17:03):
I'm a Puertoerto rican from thenew york, new jersey area.
So they think we look arab, sothey embed us peoples over there
.
So it's like, whenever youblack tool, I'm the first in the
chat saying you know, anthony,black pill, because we see this
stuff every day.
This the kind of the religiousties between the geopolitical.
So, uh, keep doing it, man, likeit's so real, these guys

(17:26):
believe this stuff.
I mean, um, this, this peopledon't know the whole october the
7th kicked off because theythey had just actually started
importing the red heifers intoisrael and so they got tipped
off of that stuff ahead of timeand that's when the attack
happened.
So I'm in the chat all the timeyou ever want to talk about
this stuff and get nuts on thelocals.
I got stuff for days, but uh,basically that's when the attack
happened.
So I'm in the chat all the timeyou ever want to talk about
this stuff and get nuts on alocals.

(17:46):
I got stuff for days, butbasically that's all I really
wanted to.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
You know, just say, let me ask you something.
So All right, so you're married22 years and you've been in the
Middle East.
Like how long have you beenhome for?
I've been back, well, so I'vebeen out of country for the last
10 years, but I still work andyou know liaisoning and things

(18:11):
like that.
How was that?
How was that on your marriage,Because I'm your family with you
, or was that was it?
How was?

Speaker 11 (18:16):
that that was.
That was very difficult.
So my wife and I we were, youknow, both cradles and we got
married at 20.
We were, uh, you know, bothcradles, uh, and we got married
at 20 and, um, being in theMiddle East and things like that
was, uh, was really tough.
I mean, basically, you'retalking 2002 or 2003, 2004.
So, like we had satellitephones, you actually had to

(18:36):
remember phone numbers andthings like that.
And, uh, she was on the phonewith me in SAT comms when I've
been hit by RPGs behind sandwalls, like insurgent things
like that.
So it was.
I mean, you know we'reSacramento, so we were never
going to break up.
But full disclosure, it's likeyou're stuck apart for each
other almost six months to ayear, and the longest was 18

(19:00):
months when I was stuck overseasand it's really taxing and so
it's kind of like I'm not evenlying.
It's a great question that youasked me.
I had like a chaplain that waslike dedicated to keeping me
sane and keeping me like focusedon.
You know, you don't want tomess this up, this is binding.
So it was really taxing.

(19:22):
And being in special operationscommands it's not like a normal
military, it's like 75thRangers and special forces.
They keep going back.
So it's constant rotations andit's, it's, it's.
It's the highest divorce ratesratio wise, for a reason.
But you got lucky.
And on my last deployment, backafter I took um, I got wounded.

(19:46):
She was like we're done.
I got lucky, uh, I took amilitary civilian job and then I
came back to the Philadelphiaarea and I've been there ever
since.
Uh, but now it's, it's, it's a,it's a challenge, man.
It was a really good question.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
God bless me Because, like you hear it all the time
military wives it's like youknow their husband's absence so
much.
You know as hard as it is onyou, it's hard on the wives too.
So God bless your wife forsticking through all that.
So all right.
So if we do a black pillepisode and we want to get into
the geopolitics, we'll we'llhave you on a locals episode one
night and we'll go deep withyou.

Speaker 11 (20:27):
You guys, it blows my mind, you know, because like
how you know what people don'tknow, but like how, how close
you get on some things and Ijust sit in the chat and I just
smile how did you find our show?
uh, I've been a.
I will first, you know, you're,you're, you're, you're, you're
a delight on twitter, and soyou're, you're, you're stink to
the top, and that's how I foundyou, probably about nine months
ago, and then I immediatelybecame a locals member and I've

(20:49):
been around ever since.
So it's like you know, I hatethe fact that you know we're in
this Catholicism thing.
My name is actually Roman andso, very cool, yeah, so it's
like, uh, my name is Roman, my,my, my name for years was Roman
wins, and then the stupid WWEwrestler took the name and then,
you know, the Catholicismonline space blew up.

(21:10):
So it was just like, well, do Icome up with a different handle
?
This is my actual name, so whatare you?

Speaker 1 (21:15):
going to do and that's your actual.
Is that your full Twitterhandle, Because I do follow you
on Twitter.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
Yeah, roman with a number zero, just it.
Try and get claiming the nameroman yeah, yeah all right.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
So hey, anybody, just go go follow roman wins.
Thank you for the question,brother.
We'll get you back on anothertime.
Very cool, um, all right, rob,you want to bring sell a cast on
?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
do we want him or do we want Christian and Margo?

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh, bring Christian and Margo on.
We'll get SellaCast on, butChristian and Margo, the
newlyweds, welcome guys.
Hi Hi, how is married life?
It's interesting.
It's good it's different.
I want to get used to.

Speaker 13 (22:05):
Yo, this is my question how do I get her to
make a sandwich for me?

Speaker 14 (22:08):
I've seen your glasses and your tits.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, first does she know how.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Does she know how to make asandwich?

Speaker 13 (22:16):
Yes, I do.
I don't know, man, she doesn'tput mayonnaise on it.
She doesn't put mayonnaise onit at all.

Speaker 15 (22:21):
Mayonnaise is disgusting.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
You better straighten this broad out, Chris.
You know it.
You know it.
You better straighten thisbroad out right now.
Yeah, I don't know.
I would take her phone away foran hour and say every hour you
don't make my sandwich, you getthree-hour penalty on the phone.
Look at this, it's attached toher hand.

Speaker 13 (22:40):
That's exactly what I'm going to do.
I'm taking that phone awayuntil I get the sandwich of my
dreams.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
We're very happy for you guys.
Congratulations, margo.
We like Christian much morethan you.
No offense, I'm not a big fanof women on this show.
You got a woman on.

Speaker 13 (23:00):
Pray for us to have lots of boys, lots of girls,
boys.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Oh, you guys expecting yet, or what?

Speaker 13 (23:06):
No no no, not yet.
He's not going to get workingon that.
But, boys.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
We don't want any more tawdry marriage.
Talk over here.

Speaker 13 (23:17):
We're glad you guys popped in.
We don't want to scandalize thesingle man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Alright, congratulations guys, thank you,
let's bring.
All right, let's bring cellcaston.
Let's.
It's probably grover, right, ifit is grover, listen.
I'm telling you guys, right nowthere's absolutely no vulgarity
on this show.
Like, don't try to be anythingcrazy, but no puppets, nope.
Whatever you could do, youcould do anonymous.
I'm fine with that.
Let's bring cellcast on.

(23:43):
Let's see which one of them itis.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Hello my friends.
Which one are you.

Speaker 10 (23:49):
I'm not Grover, that's for sure.
Oh okay, Is this Nami?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Oh, john.
Okay, what's going on, john you?

Speaker 19 (23:55):
got a real question, anthony.
When are you bringing on?
I Love Contraception, johnFarrell, you know what it is.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
It's a topic that he's down there right now.
Yes, I know.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Well, the thing is, look, it's not that I won't talk
to him, I don't want to, Idon't know.
Man Like a whole episode on him.
It's a lot.
It's nature and nature, andnature and contracts.
I told you guys, if after theweekend, the Monday at the end

(24:32):
of the three day weekend, I'mgoing to come on, and if you
guys all want to just jump onwith me, I'm totally fine with
it and we'll talk about whateveryou guys want.
I'll do a show at you.
Guys won't invite me on yourshow we invited you multiple
times, yeah 20 seconds beforeairtime.
You can't just throw me a DM 20seconds before the show goes on

(24:53):
and then call me.
You know, get on my casebecause I didn't have time to
jump on with you guys.
But I'm not against hangingwith you guys.
I'll definitely talk with youguys.
But it was nice talking to you,john.

Speaker 16 (25:02):
I hope you show your face when I come on One day I
already have.
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I'll talk to you guys on Monday.
We'll set something up.
Who do we got next?
Did you pick?
I can only see David, I'm notdown.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I don't know why I think David was.
We got a bunch of people.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, you pick, go random, I don't care.
All right, david, you are onAvoiding Babylon.
What can we help you with?

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Hey guys, Wait, just let me pull up right here.
Driving I was driving home fromwork.
I have a long commute.
Let me turn on my camera.
Hey guys, here we go.
What's happening?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Hey, hey guys, here we go, what's happening, hey.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
so yeah, I'm David, I'm 24.
I'm married for four years now.
I have three kids in those fouryears.
Nice.
So we're really trying to doGod's work over here in
California, of all places, andso my question for you is just
any tips, like to strengthenyour relationship with God, like

(26:05):
specifically with your spouse?
I know that we and we try to dothe family rosary, but I don't
know Is there anything that youguys have done, each of you with
with your wives?
I don't know any devotions thatyou might want to recommend.
And I have another questionafter that.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Let me ask you this is are you, were you like?
Did you and your wife have aconversion?
Were you both cradle catholics?

Speaker 4 (26:27):
give me, give me a little backstory too oh yeah, uh
, homeschoolers, um, you know, Iguess I mean I don't know if
you could call it high schoolsweethearts.
I mean we, we met like towardsthe end of high school.
Um, we actually met in this oneCatholic youth group and I
remember when I was starting Idon't really want to say the

(26:51):
name of it it's kind of like abig, big anyways.
So we met in that youth groupand we kind of branched out and,
you know, my family startedtalking to his, to her family I
mean, and we started talking toeach other and one thing led to
another and I actually followed.

(27:12):
I was listening to a bunch ofFather Ripperger, so I just
literally took his courtshipvideo and tried following that
step, for you know, kind ofexactly to what he said, tried
following that step, for youknow, uh, kind of exactly to
what he said.
Now, you know, now I'm a littleolder, now I get like the
flexibility you know of of ideas.
I don't just have to do whatfather rupiger says.

(27:32):
But you know, at the time, yeah, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I'll tell you this I always, like, I always found it
a little awkward to pray withjust me and my wife.
But when my kids were around, Ialways felt great, being like
the spiritual leader and leadingthe family in prayer.
So I always heard stories aboutlike, like couples, that that
would you know, just sit andpray together.
And my wife and I've always Idon't know why like well, so
like, if we go out to dinner, weof course we, we pray before

(27:57):
our meals and stuff like that.
But like, we never really didpray in bed together, just the
two of us.
It was always like a family-ledgroup praying, um.
But I would say, especially ifyou can get a sitter, I would
say even just sitting inadoration together.
And I will say this like youguys, like even rob, you guys
are in the thick of it, likewith the little kids, and like

(28:19):
mayhem in your home.
But you guys have to reallymake sure you're attentive to
your wives, like it's, it's animportant thing.
Otherwise you're you're.
You got to make sure yourrelationship doesn't become
stale and mundane and that youjust become roommates, raising
kids together, and that youstill treat each other Like

(28:41):
you're trying to pursue oneanother.
Right Like you're, you're,you're.
You want your wife to you,don't?
You don't ever want your wifeto just be your roommate.
It's a very important thing.
So that's.
That's a small bit of advice Iwould give Rob.
You have anything.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
No, I would say, you know things you can do as a
family besides like just justthe family.
Rosary, and it's notnecessarily like devotions, but
we like to celebrate all thekids' name days, like their
patron saints, for both theirfirst and middle names.
So we make that kind of a bigdeal as a family and I'll tell

(29:20):
them a story about their patronsaint.
So we enjoy doing that as afamily.
But also, just, you know, like,so we enjoy doing that as a
family, but also, just, um, youknow, like so we're doing, we're
homeschooling and um, I, I tryto do the, the religion aspect,
while while my wife does the,the, the normal school stuff.
So we, we just like sittingtogether while I, I, I just

(29:43):
throw the Baltimore Catechism upon the TV and, you know, read
through it with them and haveany of them ask whatever
questions they want.
And it's actually good for mywife too, because she's a
convert.
It's been five, six years now,but you know she's still
learning too.
So just things like that, justanything faith adjacent.

(30:04):
So so, just just things likethat, just anything faith
adjacent.
It doesn't have to be, you know, a set novena or set a devotion
, it can just be talking aboutthe faith.
You know telling stories aboutthe faith, I'll tell.
I'll tell the kids what growingup was like for me.
You know what?
What I did as a kid, how myfavorite memories are saying the
rosary with my grandma andgrandpa, camping and stuff.
So it's just sharing littlestuff like that as a family

(30:27):
together.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Make a big deal of like St Nicholas Day, make a big
deal out of like the littletraditions that they used to do,
that we missed out on growingup and like you know your
average, you know regularCatholic family.
Like there's little things likewe made such a big deal out of,
like putting slippers outsidethe door for St Nicholas day and

(30:48):
stuffing them and things likethat.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
And um, I found that, uh, fish eaterscom is a great
resource for all for littletraditions like that that
they've done in the past, thatthat were lost even before you
know we we grew up.
Um, you can, you know, whateverfeast day it is, you just throw
that in the search engine onthere and it will give you songs
you can sing with your kids forthat feast, recipes your, your

(31:10):
wife can make for the dinner for, like, say, march and miss or
or stuff like that.
So there's lots of cool thingsyou can do.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Yeah, my wife's are all into that like liturgical
living, and so that's reallycool.
Um, I also wanted to ask youguys if you guys would come to
california.
I don't know if it's like aforbidden, you know, because, um
, I'm with the men's group, um,I guess, I guess I'll just say
I'm with the brotherhood ofsaint dismas, brotherhood,
penitence of saint dismas.

(31:36):
Um, we uh, have our group inholiness, but in holiness in
long beach.
So if anybody's out there whowants to attend, but, um, it's
just a man's group, we followreal life.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
And I was talking to the other guys and they were
saying, oh yeah, I listened toavoiding babble, and I was like,
oh wow, so okay, so we havethis in common and so I don't
know if you guys would bewilling well, you know what,
maybe rob, maybe rob and I willput together like some kind of
price packaging, like if guyshave a men's group and they
wanted to like I don't knowwhere I mean, if you're in
california, you guys don't haveto pay for our travel, pay for

(32:08):
our airfare, and then maybewe'll come up with like a, a fee
that you know makes it worth us, you know, abandoning our
families for a day or two orsomething.
We'll have to, we'll have tofigure that out.
There's going to be some thingsthat we're going to be
announcing soon that might freeus up to do some stuff like that
so maybe we'll be able to pullsome stuff like that off.
We're gonna like kind of movethrough these quick to get to
everybody.
Those are really good questions, david.

(32:29):
Very nice to meet you, brother.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah thank you man.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Um, all right, who we got next?
Ordo catholic, you are onavoiding babylon.
What can we do?

Speaker 20 (32:40):
yo, yes, what's up man I got.
First of all I have to give aquick shout out to my boy, evan.
He put me on you guys like ayear ago.
All right here from Tim Gordon.
You know, just eating, actuallyeating dinner with my wife that
she just made.
I know we were talking abouthomeschooling earlier.
We were both teachers.
I retired her Tim Gordon mode,you know, couldn't let her do

(33:03):
that anymore.
Very good, homeschool your kids, okay, yeah.
Well, don't, uh, don't sendyour kids these public schools.
Also, I'm in law school rightnow.
I'm studying, you know,immigration lawyer.
Maybe send them back?
I don't know.
We've got to determine.
Um, my question here is right,oh, real quick.
Shout out to the ordinary aswell.

(33:24):
Love the ordinary chair, saintpeter.
Love the spx too.
You know, I just gotta plug him, okay.
Um, I'm in a lovely group offriends here.
Okay, we're talking about topfive non-bible saints.
So, like, not the apostles, notmary one of my boys pulled up
saint john paul ii.
okay, I Okay, I need a list fromyou guys.

(33:47):
That's my question.
What's your top five?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Ooh, top five saints outside of scripture.
I mean I would probably goAugustine, I would definitely go
Pope, st Gregory the Great, Iwould say, see, like we were

(34:12):
talking earlier, like I thinkCatherine Aragon should be a
saint Because what she did, whatshe endured under Henry VIII
was heroic and especially inmodern times I think she should
be a saint.

Speaker 20 (34:24):
So she's one of my favorites what was that?
Are you ordinary at pill?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
that's what that sounded like no, no, no, I just
I what what?
What catherine endured underhenry the eighth and still
stayed faithful to the churchand to her marriage throughout
all of it.
I just think that that isincredibly virtuous and I think
that there should be a cultaround her.
Who else I mean?

(34:54):
St Padre Pio is by far one ofmy favorites, and then I would
say St Therese the Little Flower.
She got me through a verydifficult time in my life during
work when I basically lost alot of prestige at my job and I
had to actually go in as I wentfrom being like the one of the
head supervisors at my companyto just being a laborer and I
had to make every act of.

(35:15):
It was basically likeeverything I did at work was an
act of humiliation that I justoffered to God, and it got me
through a really difficult timeat work.

Speaker 20 (35:23):
That's a great list.
I'm surprised with no StFrancis, but that is a fantastic
list.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh yeah, you know what St.
Francis too.
Man Like the real St Francis,not the hippie St Francis.
Yeah, I should have said himtoo.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
For me it would be a.

Speaker 20 (35:44):
St Tarsisius, st Augustine, st Ambrose and St
Philomena.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Rob, who's the patron saint of guns?
Oh, it's.
Oh, there is a patron saint ofgun fighters St Louis the 9th.
St Louis the 9th is a good one.
Let me look them up real quick.
There is one Patron saint ofguns.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
We got some funny comments in the chat here yeah
and then I'll.

Speaker 20 (36:09):
I'll leave you guys alone.
Why not saint pope john paul iithe great?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
oh, I, I mean I'll, I'll be honest.
I I loved john paul ii.
Um, I really did.
I loved John Paul II my wholelife and it wasn't until a few
years ago when I started reallyunderstanding a lot of the
damage he did.
But for somebody growing up inthat era, he was a very powerful

(36:40):
figure in my life andespecially in my conversion.
So I probably wouldn't havetaken issue with the title St
John Paul the Great until thepast seven or eight years or so,
until I started seeing all thepeople he elevated and you know,
I mean he gave us McCarrick, hegave us Pope Francis, he gave.

(37:01):
I mean there's so many thingsthat he is and the Assisi
meetings are something that Ijust you just can't overlook.
Those and the abuse crisishappened under his watch.
So those would be my biggestdifficulties with him.
But I mean he was a role modelto Catholics for those who
wanted to go out and proclaimthe faith.
I mean there's a wholegeneration of people that you
call JP2 Catholics, so you know.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know popes are um , they're a little different.
Right, because you know youcould have someone who say you
know was a martyr, died for thefaith or lived a very clear, you
know, clearly holy private lifeand died and in I still think
we should wait to name themsaints.
But naming them a saint likemartyr a few years after their
death okay, I don't have a realproblem with it.

(37:46):
But a pope, it takes a centuryor two to really understand the
impact that they really had onthe church and I think you
really need to take that intoaccount before you can claim a
pope to be a saint.

Speaker 20 (38:01):
Yeah, I completely agree.
I just thought I love St paulii, but top five just absolutely
blew my mind.
That's um, that's some.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
No, no brain, the galaxy brain, yeah, yeah he
shouldn't be anybody's top fivethat's for sure, I mean you
could name five of the fathers,any five of the fathers yeah
that's what I'm saying,augustine, I mean, come on man
oh no, all right.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
So all right, let's all right, we're gonna move on.
Auto catholic I'm sorry man, wedo have to keep it moving.
But there is st anthony abadiis st anthony of the desert and
he is the father of westernmonasticism.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
So yeah, st anthony abadi is actually probably uh no
, he's the father of easternmonasticism, the father of
western, to st bernard ofcloveau yes, you're right, no
not not bernard of claveau no, Idon't know, but saint benedict
is the father, yeah well, have agood night uh, yeah, you too,
thank you go converts okay, I'm,I'm going in line, just so

(38:59):
everyone knows yeah, just inorder.
Whatever order you got in I'mnot picking anyone, or not
picking people, um, dear gray.
Uh, you don't have a mic.

Speaker 24 (39:10):
Okay, here we go hello, hey guys, my name is
charbie.
Uh, live in charlotte.
First time I was introduced toyou guys well, heard of you guys
really was during the men'sconference at st thomas aquinas
in charl.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Get out of here.

Speaker 24 (39:24):
That's awesome, I was like, oh boy, I think it'd
be an awesome closer.
But instead we got the nicegentleman from Tam Books Love
his talk as well.
But I was like man, did itavoid any Babylon to touch us?
But I didn't really startwatching your videos until a few
months ago.
So I've always wondered youknow what kind of happened there
, because I met Christian Wagnerthere.
I I've always wondered you knowwhat kind of happened there.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Because I met Christian Wagner.
There.
I met a few other people.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
This is a good question.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
What's funny is we kind of just made peace with the
cause behind it all?
That is a very good question.
So we were asked to speak atthat conference and I had a bit
of a falling out with agentleman named Jim over my
objection to the idea of mutualsubmission, because I am very, I
very firmly believe that thehusband is not just the head of

(40:13):
the home, but he's also thespiritual head of the home, like
your wife is your spiritualchild.
And that got into a very bigmess.
And then he wound up digging upall of my tweets that had to do
with you know, maybe they weremisogynistic towards women and
maybe they were a little bitsarcastic about the people of

(40:36):
the old covenant, and he sentthem to the bishop down there
and there was enough pressureput on them that they asked Rob
and I to step down.
But we were still invited, wewere still paid to go down there
.
So all the people that werecoming to see us we told them,
look, we're going to do an after, an after event, and and we
wound up just hanging out witheverybody.
You should have come to thehotel.
We hung out all night thatnight and got to meet all the

(40:58):
people that came down to see usat the talk.
Um, hopefully the next talk wego to will not be a
diocesan-sponsored event,because we learned our lesson
with that.
We will never speak at anotherdiocesan, official diocese event
, because it's just, they're tooeasily frazzled and they cancel
too quickly.
So we're going to try and setsomething else up for the future

(41:19):
.
We're very glad that you gotintroduced to us and found our
channel, man.

Speaker 24 (41:25):
One more thing before I go.
It's so funny you mentionedmutual submission because I'm a
convert like the last guy and Iremember one of the first masses
I went to after I converted.
The mass reading was wives,obey her husbands.
Husbands, love your wife asChrist loved the church.
And when the priest read well,when the deacon read, why be

(41:45):
submissive to your husbands?
You could just see like halfthe women in my Novus Ordo
parish like bristle and I'm justlike it's all over.
Why don't I enjoy this?

Speaker 3 (41:56):
And all the men probably put their heads down.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I think the generation that quivers at that
verse is starting to go away,and I think we're starting to
see men realize that mutualsubmission just doesn't work.
It's, you know, they've, we've.
We've dealt with it for a fewgenerations now, and I think

(42:21):
that a lot of the, a lot of theyounger couples and women seem
to be embracing it too, which ismy, which is what makes me
hopeful.
It's not just men lording theirauthority over their wives,
it's women wanting a man to leadthem and wanting a husband
who's actually going to be thespiritual head of the home.
And I think the only way we getto that is by making men men,
you know, and and and making mensomeone that a woman wants to

(42:46):
follow, because women arestubborn and they're difficult,
and we have to work on that.
So we need real men to beat thestubbornness out of these women
, not physically just, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Oh, that's going to get clipped.
Son of a.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Charby, very happy you uh, you, you, you uh started
watching the show.
Man I I wish we would haveknown and we could uh actually
met you when we were in northcarolina.

Speaker 24 (43:13):
Hopefully we get another uh chance soon coming up
to new jersey this weekend, souh, well, you're in, I'm in new
york, but yeah, and I and I gotfamily stuff this weekend.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
We're gonna figure something out.
I promise I was just talkingfamily stuff this weekend we're
going to figure something out.
I promise I was just talking toMichael Hichborn today about
trying to figure something outon the East Coast, so we'll put
something together, man CoolVery nice meeting you.
Thank you All right.
Who we got next Rob?

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Hello.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
Can you hear?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
me, we can.
Oh my goodness, another girl onthe show.
What?

Speaker 15 (43:46):
are we gonna do?
I'm sorry I'm actually driving,but I had a few questions.
Well, two really.
Um, the first one is regardingthe holy mother of god.
So my understanding is those umindividuals who are unbaptized
are considered children of wrath, correct?

(44:07):
They're not children of God.
So I always had troubleunderstanding how the Blessed
Virgin Mary was the mother ofall humanity and not just the
mother of baptized souls, and Iwas hoping that you guys could
kind of clarify that a little.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
I will put.
I will look.
I'm not a theologian, I'll giveRob a better crack at this, but
I would put it in respect tohow Christ is King of an.
Every knee shall bow and everytongue confess that Christ is
King.
Mary's queenship is is derivedfrom Christ's kingship.
So and and.
God is the God of all mankind,and God is the God of all

(44:46):
mankind, and Mary is the queenof the universe, and we receive
divine adoption at baptism.
So yes, you're 100% correct.
Not every person is a child ofGod.
That is like a new thing thatpeople say, but it's just not
actually true In reality.
Everyone is created in God'simage and likeness, but only
those who are baptized arechildren of God, because that is

(45:09):
when we receive divine adoption.

Speaker 15 (45:12):
Okay, perfect.
Thank you so much for thatclarity.
The second question I had, Ithink, was more secular.
So I have watched some of theMarvel series and one of the
series I did watch was Loki.
My question is because he's ademon, pretty much, so I wanted

(45:34):
to know if that presents anissue.
I know Father Rippinger covereda lot of the Harry Potter
series and how Catholics shouldnot watch those sorts of things
and I was curious if that kindof fell into it as well, like in
terms of things that weshouldn't.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I mean, I would say, well one, it's just bad TV.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
I like Loki.
I thought Loki was good, Iliked it.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
I would just suggest finding better TV, but I would
say the show, the MarvelUniverse or whatever it, doesn't
present him as a god, right,they present him as just some
sort of alien being on anotherplane that maybe humans treated
as a god.
So I don't know, don't have a amoral objection to that part of

(46:29):
it.
I, I don't know, I justwouldn't watch it no, I thought,
I thought loki was fine.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Oh yeah, we had.
We had father uh isaac on my.
I had father isaac at my houseand I was doing an interview
with father is father Isaac andsomebody pointed out that in the
background behind father Isaacwas my uh, my series set of the
Harry Potter books.

(46:58):
I had uh the the Harry Potterbook series in the background of
father Ripper I mean, I'mfather Isaac, who has railed
against the harry potter series,so I'm probably not the best
person to ask this question too,because I actually did, uh,
read the harry potter books withmy kids when they were little.
I thought I it was.
It was before like I everactually started thinking deeply

(47:19):
about this stuff and I justthought it was a good way to get
their imaginations going.
I also read, read Lord of theRings parts of the Hobbit with
them, not Lord of the Rings,don't compare the two.
I'm just saying that's where Iwas with them when they were
little, so, but yeah, I'mprobably the wrong person to ask
on that, kelly, to be honest,Thank you.

Speaker 15 (47:35):
And then the last question.
I wanted to know if you guyswere going to cover a lot of the
, I guess, um, a lot of the Iguess the leak audio that came
from lepanto institute regardingthe priests, um.
Is that something that you guysare going to cover in another?

Speaker 1 (47:50):
broadcast.
We have michael hitchborn onthursday night.
Okay, thursday night michaelhitchborn will be on.
We will be covering that, andthen we'll also have michael on
just to discuss some some.
I just love getting michael on.
He's just such a, such a funguest to have on.
But yes, we'll definitely bediscussing that okay, thank you
so much, and thank you for umtaking my call bye anytime, all

(48:11):
right, here we go next roundyou're ready for the next one,
let's go all righty I love itthe guy you hate to love.

Speaker 10 (48:21):
You love to hate.
I hope, yes, by.
Uh, flying monkeys are like yougot to get out of there.
I'm like all right, let me giveit a try.
My hat's off to you guys,though Making a YouTube channel
is tough.
People say, oh, you're justwimpy, you got to get a real job
.
Go ahead and try it.
Anyway, I've made a few videosbecause I'm a loud mouth and I

(48:41):
got a lot to say.
But my I guess that mutualsubmission you were talking
about it's rooted in NFP.
Has that ever occurred to you?
Have you ever thought aboutthat?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Absolutely.
I don't think we disagree onNFP.
I think NFP is basically it's aCatholic excuse for birth
control in 90% of cases.

Speaker 10 (48:58):
So Well, it changes the entire law of marriage.
Is what I've figured out.
It's not even 90%.
You have created a new naturalpurpose for the Conjugal Act,
aka unity.
The unitive way won't tell youwhat unitive is, so that's kind
of what I wanted to ask you guysis does the is the conjugal act

(49:31):
?
Do you consider it?
Does it need?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
to be unitive, and what does that mean?
I would say it doesn't need tobe, because I think for all of
human history you'd have women,would you know?
I, I, but I don't know what,the word, I don't know, because
that's probably a new way.
I've really never thought aboutit that deeply, but I do think
that there is, uh, a naturalelement to, to to the conjugal

(49:55):
act that does bring the spousescloser yeah, I would say, when
done properly it's.

Speaker 10 (50:01):
It is just unitive by its nature just yeah I don't
think it's super as it'screative by by its nature right,
I I just made a video aboutlila rose because she's I called
her the uh nfp, uh, uh,dominatrix, because she's saying
that it's all it's about love,not procreation.
That's where the the nfp comesin.
So, in fact, you no longer havethe right to the debt because

(50:24):
the right to quote unity trumpsyour right to the debt, and
that's kind of what I'm tryingto get out there.
Yeah, so, it's, so, it's andit's all.
The JP to ism, thepersonalistic norm, is the new
legal basis, so you can have allthe marital.
Yeah, so, so this is marriagelaw, ok, and they've taken.
They've taken, taken theologyand turned it into nature.

(50:47):
And this is why I'm saying thatunless NFP be declared
intrinsically evil, you cannotrestore marriage.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
You cannot restore marriage.
This is a deeper subject, soit's not something that we can
answer quickly like this.

Speaker 10 (51:04):
Totally got it.
Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, I got it, I got it.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
It's actually an interesting thesis that you
think it needs to be declaredintrinsically evil.
So we'll, maybe, maybe we'llget you on, maybe we'll get,
maybe we'll dig into that alittle bit, cause that's an
interesting.

Speaker 10 (51:16):
Yeah, when the time is right, that's cool comment
it's making a youtube channel isnot.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
It's not easy at all it's a lot of work, yeah yeah,
yeah, more power guys.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
All right, cheers, god bless, thank you sure, yeah,
just a word on that for asecond.
Um it is.
It is difficult to make ayoutube channel because you
can't just um.
It's not easy to come up withthings that like this show
tonight is I wanted to dosomething different.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Right, I got you get so he stole the idea from Keith
well, I stole the idea from alot of different areas.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I'm not saying it's original.
It's from a desire to dosomething different and unique
and I figured hey, what like?
Like, I'm sure a lot of peoplewould love that watch our show
regularly, would love to justjump on and talk to us for two
seconds or just get to hang withtheir, because we, you guys,
know us, because you watch ustalk twice a week like this.

(52:14):
But we don't know you guys.
So it's a cool opportunity foryou guys to jump on.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
I mean, most of you have literally watched three
well, not literally watchedthree of my kids be born, but
you've been around for three,around for three, the births of
three of rob's children.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
So yeah, all right, let's, let's get the next one on
, let's see and then we're gonnawe're gonna get feedback after
the show and see what you guysthought of this and we'll I mean
, I don't we're not gonna do itevery episode, but I think this
is a cool thing to do monthlyand we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
So those asking how you call in.
We are still.
We haven't even gotten throughonly locals and YouTube members
yet.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Right, but we will stay on long, so it's not going
to be like we're not going tojump to locals today.
I think we'll just stay on hereand we will give YouTube a
chance to jump on.
We're almost through the localsmembers.

Speaker 14 (53:01):
Anthony we're getting a lot of feedback dude.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
Oh we're getting a lot of feedback dude.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Yeah, I don't know if you're there, man Anthony in
the five Sicilies.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
You there.
I'm going to put him on holdand let's go to Sebastian.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Anthony, I'm going to put you on hold.
I'm going to leave you in there, but hold on.
He just muted and unmuted.
Are you there now?

Speaker 26 (53:23):
No, his mic's not working.
All right, let's go not working, I'll leave him there.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Sebastian hello.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Oh no, we got guys on the floor, so let's go.
Oh, Anthony's favorite.

Speaker 17 (53:32):
I always try to catch you guys while I'm here
working because you guys streamwhile I'm on my shift.
But first of all I want to justsay God bless you, rob.
I'm hoping your wife's doingwell, your new baby.
Congratulations on that.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Thank you, baby Sebastian, by the way.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 17 (53:49):
Yeah.
So based on my question for youguys obviously I hear you guys
talk about it a lot.
We're blessed.
I'm here in the Phoenix areawhere we've got an SSPS chapel
here with a school, so ifanything, I will just put my
kids through that when the timecomes, like my only daughter is
only seven months old right now.
But I've also thought abouthomeschooling.

(54:10):
My thing with you guys is justwith your guys's experience in
it, what are resources or justhow to get into it?
Like how would you actuallyadvise somebody get into
homeschooling and what thatprocess looks like?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I would say, um, I mean first first find, find
someone you know that that isdoing it or has done it um, just
to get get an idea.
But the nice thing abouthomeschooling and also one of
the more difficult aspects is isjust how personalized it just
is, by nature, right.

(54:43):
Um, so, like for we.
We started last year with myoldest.
We did kindergarten, yeah,kindergarten.
Um.
So I just did a lot of researchonline.
What sort of curriculums wereout there?
Um, you know, there are peoplewho build their own, who take
bits of from many differentsources and just build their own

(55:05):
, and maybe we'll do that in thefuture once we get more of a
hang of it.
But I had done some accountingwork for a Catholic private
school slash homeschoolcooperative, so I knew of the
curriculum they use and it was aclassical sort of curriculum.

(55:25):
So I just ordered thekindergarten curriculum for that
.
We looked through it, my wifeand I looked through it, figured
that we did like it, at leastfor kindergarten, and used that,
and then we didn't use thereligion part of it.
I just did stuff from theBaltimore catechism for that.

(55:47):
Um, so it's just a matter oftrial and error figuring out
what works for for you know, youor your wife, whoever's
teaching, but also whateverworks for that child.
And you know, like, like we'rerealizing that what we did for
our oldest is is going to bedifferent for our next kid in

(56:08):
line, because they're just verydifferent kids and they have
different strengths, weaknessesand things like that.
So it's just a matter of trialand error and just know that
whatever you do, man, it's goingto be better than public school
.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
And there's also a lot of you said the co-ops.
The co-ops are a lot differentnow than they were like.
It's not like when, like it wasyears ago, where you're what
you were just leaving your wifeto wing it, you really they have
.
They have co-ops where you worktogether, you develop a
curriculum together.
Sometimes they're they'rethrough a parish and you could
do it that way, like the thelocal.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
If you're in a decent sized city, you'll be, yeah,
you'll.
You'll find at least a few ofthose.
Um, we're out in the, out onthe stick, so we really don't
have that.
But uh, but yeah there's,there's a lot of support out
there this is an absurd, absurdquestion.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
No, of course not.
What do you mean?
Yeah, everybody, noteverybody's fertile.
You guys are all silly, thethings you ask.
Yeah, alright, anything else,sebastian?

Speaker 17 (57:15):
no, that's it.
I appreciate you guys, man, youguys stay safe, alright, thank
you so much hey, real quick.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Your department doesn't issue the P320, does it?
No, it does not okay, I won'thave to pray extra for you, then
I'll still take him, though.
Okay, we'll do.
Thanks, man, all right.
Okay, I'm going to go back toAnthony of the Five Sicilies,
just to see here.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Let's see if his audio is working.
Hello.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
How are we doing?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Oh, we got you, brother, what's happening.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Well, a couple of thoughts for that last guy.
Timothy Gordon is advertising ahomeschool class on his locals.
That might really be worthpicking up.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
I think you'll have some good stuff there.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Well, I had a couple of things to go over, you know,
quick things.
In the spirit of the show, Iwanted to ask a question about
mothers and newborn babies.
I hear that babies are soinnocent and ignorant that they
don't even know that they'reseparate to their own mother and
that, just you know, putting ababy in the mother's arms will
completely stop them from cryingIn your experience?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
is that at all true If they're traditional babies
and they go to the latin mass?
But if they're novasorto babies, they're awful and no amount of
latching to their mother willcease their crying no no, I'm
obviously kidding.
I don't, I don't know.
I think babies are uh each oneis different, I would imagine.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I mean they?
I don't know all the sciencebehind it there's, there's a lot
of it, but yeah, apparently,like up until like six to eight
months, they and I don't knowhow they know this.
I don't think they really canknow this.
I think they're guessing.
But they say that they don'trecognize their mother as being
a separate being from themselvesuntil six to eight months.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
This sounds like women who want to co-sleep that
this is propaganda to convincetheir husbands, All I know for
sure is, they definitelyrecognize that dad is a separate
being right away.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
It's not until like eight months, when they're like
yeah you're okay.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
It's quite interesting.
What's your favorite title ofthe Virgin Mary for both of you?

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Our Lady of Victory, for for sure.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Oh man, I love Our Lady Queen of Heaven.
That's a good one.
I just love Our Lady Queen ofHeaven.
So, but that is a good question.
You know what, if I thoughtabout that a little more, I
might have a different answer.
I'll think a little deeperabout that one.
I might post that a little bitlater.
Anything else, Ian?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Well, my reason for my favorite title is Our Lady of
Sorrowful Mysteries, becauseRipper Griswold said she'll give
you whatever you want.
It sounds like a pretty gooddeal to me.
Yeah, oh, and the name is astrong reference.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I have a sister who has a very deep devotion to Our
Lady of Sorrows.
Well, that's all folks.
Very nice meeting you, man.
Okay, tim, tim is next.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Hello, hello, hey Tim .

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Hey, so I've got kind of an interesting question for
you guys.
I have a friend of mine who isa recent convert and he also
recently became red pilled.
If you know what that means, ifyou know what that's about.
Yeah, for sure.
And I just recently found outthat he's been asking for a

(01:00:33):
certain historical dictatorsintercession.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Mussolini's.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
I wish it was that one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
That one I could almost understand, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Well, that one too, but it's been the other guy.
I think you know who I'mtalking about.
How do I get him to stop doingthis sort of thing?
Oof, is he Catholic?
Yeah, he's a recent convert.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Hold on, let me look up the.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
But he's convinced that this individual is a saint.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
I would have him read the encyclical Mitt Brennender.
I can't pronounce German MittBrennender.
I can't pronounce German MittBrennender.
Sorge, it's an encyclical byPius XI against the Nazi party.
Specifically, I found thatthose who support Mustache man

(01:01:37):
tend to find ways to claim thatit's not really a condemnation
of the nazi party.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
But it is look there's, look there's.
It's one thing to havecriticism of.
I mean we are very vocal aboutour criticism of jews, but I
think that it is upon probably abetter way to say that yeah, no
, but I mean we are, we're verycritical of yeah, I can't stand
them yeah, I'm not.
This isn't about that.

(01:02:03):
This is this.
But this is about um like.
You shouldn't be asking for theintercession of anyone who
hasn't exemplified likeextraordinary holiness.
It's just as simple as thatyeah, I always tell him.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
I always tell him it's just like you know, he
wasn't leading a Catholic lifeyou know, Believe it or not,
whether or not he killed himselfand all that you know it's like
he had a longtime girlfriendthat he probably was, you know,
had a physical relationship withand that's enough to believe

(01:02:36):
that he's not in heaven.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
That's enough to believe that he's not in heaven.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Yeah, now listen, my wife's mother's maiden name is
Bron.
Eva Bron's probably related toher, so this is no hatred
towards the Germans.
I'm saying we really should notglorify anyone who didn't show
an exemplary life of holiness.
Look, this is our criticism ofeven some of the newer saints
that the church is elevatingdidn't show an exemplary life of
holiness right.

(01:03:00):
Look, this is our criticism ofeven some of the newer saints
that the church is elevating.
It's that.
Did they really have thisextraordinary, virtuous life
that we should all emulate?
There's nothing in the life ofHitler that any of us should be
emulating.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I criticize.
What's his name?
Carlo Acutis, right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah, yeah, acutis, but I think he was probably way
more holy than hitler, you knowI mean so, yeah, I, I think, I
think, um, I man, this, this isa danger and a lot of the crap
we see online, you know.
But I mean, if you're, if yourfriend is serious about taking
his faith seriously, you knowthis.

(01:03:40):
It's one thing to understandthe historical context of that
event and to take it into intoserious thought and understand.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
I would say.
I would say if, if he isidolizing hitler because of you,
know certain things he didagainst the jew, tell him to
look into the life of QueenIsabella of Spain.
You know you're talking about aperson who also fought against

(01:04:08):
you, know what she saw as theevils of the Jews, but who lived
a very Catholic life and ledher, instead of leading her
country, to ruin.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
Let it yeah, or even Franco or something.
Yeah, or Franco, but I mean,there's far more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
There's people instead of leading her country
to ruin, let it yeah, or evenfranco, or something, or yeah,
or, or franco, or but.
But I mean there's, there's farmore.
There's people, people outthere who are far more worthy of
admiration than the natalhitler yeah, that's all that's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
That's how I would leave it.
Yeah, and it's.
You know, it's a red pill.
Yeah, I think, um, I think it'simportant that we actually do
have a clear understanding ofwhat the red pill is is putting
forth.
It's it's feminism for the male, it's the male version of
feminism.
It it's it's it's antidotes.
Like it has a properprescription of the problem, not

(01:04:53):
a prescription as a properdiagnosis of the problem, but
its prescription is horrific.
It's just, it's garbage.
Like it's no different thanfeminism.
Like, honestly, the properantidote to it is Christian
patriarchy.
It just is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I mean very, very similar to Nazism itself.
They diagnosed the problempretty correctly and I'm not
even talking necessarily aboutJews there, just about the
degeneracy of the Bible Republic.
But their, their solution ledtheir country to absolute ruin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
So yeah, so all right , Anything else Tim?

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
Yeah, I guess I had just one more question.
So I've got another friend whothinks that the Holy spirit well
, I, I understand that the HolySpirit, like in the Bible it
says that it appeared like adove, you know, descended like a
dove.
I have another friend thatbelieves that the Holy Spirit is

(01:05:59):
like, basically like a doveincarnate, if that makes sense,
and uh, like I understand why,why he believes it.
But I was just wondering if youhad any, had any advice on how
to deal with that one man, thisis like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
This is like getting into the jay dyer, tim gordon,
stuff, right.
It's like it's like um no, thea dove is not an incarnation of
the holy spirit.
That is not what happened there.
It's like no, a dove is not anincarnation of the Holy Spirit.
That is not what happened there.
It's kind of like saying theHoly Spirit descended like
tongues of fire on the apostlesin the upper room.
It's not an incarnation of theHoly Spirit.

(01:06:32):
I would think that that's Idon't know how literal that
language is I would want to havesomebody that's way more
qualified than Rob or I, to behonest.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I don't know what the Greek says, for instance, but
does it mean as a dove, likeliterally, physically as a dove,
or as a dove as in figurativesort of language?
I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I don't think Rob and I are the right two to ask that
question too, but I'm notsaying there's not a correct
answer to it.
I just don't know if we'requalified to answer it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
All right, thanks, fellas.
Yeah, maybe Sam Shamoon Call itthe Sam Shamoon show.
With that one He'd be a littlebetter than us.
All right, nice meeting you,tim, who we got.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Dear Jeeves, Mike and and camera aren't working.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Oh Deirdre, your mic and camera aren't working.
I can't believe how many womenwatch our show.
This is unbelievable.
Oh, never mind, never mind.
Here we go, not Ethan?
What's happening, brother?

Speaker 26 (01:07:30):
Hey, how's it going?
Nice to talk to you guys.
Yeah, what's up.
So first I'm going to be here todefend convert supremacy, but I
got a question, so I'm I'm in amen's group, right, and
yesterday morning we meet and wehave this long debate about
communion in the hand and, likeyou just get back to this
question of I also mentionedthat I went to Latin mass on
Sunday which didn't go over wellwith one of the guys and they

(01:07:51):
defended, like our Bishopdoesn't support this because I'm
Archbishop of Detroit.
Archbishop of Detroit, Like youread yourself into the Catholic
church, Like one of the bigthings is apostolic possession
and you get to the question ofhow many of the bishops even
believe, like what people like Ithat read ourselves into the
church believe and like what doyou even do with that?
You know what I mean, Causeit's like they're kind of right,

(01:08:13):
Like this bishop hatestradition, what you know what I
mean.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
What do bishop hates tradition?
What you know, I mean.
What do you even say to that?
I actually think the convertsthat that came in over the last
two, two decades or so and theirlove for the faith and their
desire to actually see it livedout, because they they, they had
such a deep fervor for christbefore they come into the church
and then when they do come intothe church and then when they
do come into the church, theysee this kind of this
lukewarmness around them andtheir desire to see the faith

(01:08:43):
lit on fire is part of the drivethat's sending people to the
Latin mass.
It's a lot of converts at theTLM.
This is not a, this is not aconvert verse, cradle Catholic
thing.
I do think the converts areactually part of the reason
there is so much fervor aroundthe Latin mass, because they

(01:09:03):
were on a search for apostolicChristianity and then they get
here and they kind of find aProtestant version of
Christianity and they're likethis isn't what I read about.
I want the version I read aboutin the Fathers.
So they do Look, use CrackerBarrel as a perfect example.
I know this sounds crazy, butthey, the public pressure

(01:09:26):
campaigns, work Right and Ithink there's a lesson for the
archdiocese, the parishioners inthe archdiocese of Detroit, in
what happened with CrackerBarrel, this bishop.
He seems very intent andsettled on his decision to
remove all the rails and to getrid of the Latin mass.
But I do think public pressurehas a place and it does work.

(01:09:47):
It just it needs to be doneprayerfully, it needs to be done
properly and, and I think, itneeds to be organized.
I think that the Archdiocese ofDetroit, all the faithful
Catholics of the Archdiocese,really do need to figure out
some organization and you guysneed to get on your knees and

(01:10:09):
start praying your hearts out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yeah, I would just say like, of the 12 men chosen
by the God man to lead hischurch, one of them was Judas, I
mean.
So we have to expect that ofthe successors to the apostles
chosen by very fallible men inthe papacy, way more than

(01:10:34):
one-twelfth of them are going tobe.
Judas' too.
And if that didn't shake thefaith of the, the apostles, as
they went and spread the, spreadthe, you know, the gospel
around the world, then we can'treally let it shake our faith
either.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
That's a good point, the, the, the bishops have
financial responsibilities toguys.
So don't?
You know, I'm just.
I know it's a silly analogy,but I don't think it's that
silly.
I think that even the publicpressure campaign that came down
on Charlotte made the bishop ofCharlotte hold off on some of
his things.
You know, now, granted, thebishop in Detroit seems a little

(01:11:11):
more stubborn than him, but youknow, prayer goes a long way
and fasting goes a long way too.

Speaker 26 (01:11:16):
So yeah, I will say I'm just joking about the cradle
or the conference supremacy.
My wife is a cradle catholicand, uh, it took me being
married to her for, you know, 11years to join the church.
Um, and then just one otherclosing thought I'll say I'm
like a pretty big anthony cumiafan back in the day and I listen
to, I'll say, dave smith'sother podcast a lot.

(01:11:37):
So, uh, this is a much betterreligious show to listen to.
So love it and keep up the goodwork.
I'll tell you this I?

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
I would not.
This show wouldn't existwithout anthony cumia.
Yeah, like, I grew up listeningto opie and anthony and it made
me want to do radio.
Admit like that, this show.
I didn't start the show becauseI wanted to be some great
evangelist.
I didn't start this this showbecause I thought I was going to
come in and criticize thepapacy.
I started this show because Iwanted to do radio.
I just love the idea of doingradio and I like experimenting

(01:12:08):
with new things.
This show to me tonight is fun.
It's just a different thingwe're doing.
So, yeah, shout out to AnthonyCumia.
For those of you who don't know, he's a legend in New York
radio.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
So he's who I have to blame.

Speaker 26 (01:12:21):
Yeah, I got into the show because it's a good
alternative to the DegenerateComedy Podcast.
I was listening to it before.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
That's actually what it is right.
You'll never hear Blast from meon our show.
We talk about subjects a littlebit deeper.
It's for the guys who actuallydo like Joe Rogan, but they're
tired of hearing him take theLord's name in vain.
They're tired of hearing himtalk about weed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Yeah you can only hear about DMT so many times.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Yeah, dmt trips and stuff like that.
It's for guys that actually dojust want to hear a guy's
podcast, and a lot of womenlisten too.
I'm actually really surprisedthat a lot of women do like our
show Cool.

Speaker 26 (01:12:54):
That's all I got.
Nice meeting you Ethan, NotEthan.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Not Ethan, sorry, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Alex Malone.
Right oh, cardinal Limberito.
You have no authority.
Dude, you were my favorite one,you know that, right?
Oh, of course.
You were my favorite one andthen you stopped coming in the
chat.
I was heartbroken when you left.

Speaker 12 (01:13:20):
No, so I wasn't really trying to issue a boycott
of your chat.
It's just once I became a TVstar, I signed a contract.
I spent a lot of time on thatshow.
No, I do have a question,though.
Why do they in Detroit andCharlotte, like, why do they let

(01:13:43):
them take the Latin mass away?
Like, why do the people letthat happen?

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
right, the priests that are not willing to lay down
their life for what?
For for the mass?
I think there's an element ofthat, um, and I think that

(01:14:08):
there's, there's.
Look it's, it's.
It is a difficult question whendoes obedience end?
Like it's not a simple questionand I know, I know you and I
will disagree on on the, on thespecifics of that, which I'm
going to wind up getting into onFriday with Nova Sorta Watch.
But like I don't think it's outof cowardice, I do think it's
out of a desire for people towant to be faithful.
So I think it's a trickierquestion than some people think

(01:14:34):
it is.
That's all I would say.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
I think a lot of it here, at least in America, has
to do kind of with just thistendency that we as Catholics in
America have always had to goalong to get along right, like
we've had to kind of lay downand let people run over us just
to make it.
As Catholics in America, youknow we couldn't hold offices,

(01:14:59):
you know we couldn't even becitizens for for a while, like
um.
So I I think a lot of it isjust we as american catholics
are just so used to just notrocking the boat, and I think
that that applies to stuff likethis too, because because I mean
, you hear stories about over ineurope when they try to take a

(01:15:21):
tl out like a tlm church away,like they'll literally sit in
that church for weeks untilwhoever's trying to take it away
just gives up and yeah, that'swhat I'm just rolling yeah yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Well, that's sad.
I think we lack organizationand I think that anytime
somebody does try to put up anykind of resistance, they get
accused of being a schismatic.
I mean, look at dude, you getthe accusations of schismatic
are just thrown around at peopleand it's like, dude, like what
are you even saying?

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
you have taylor marshall on and you say, we're
gonna give, we're gonna givepope leo a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
And man, suddenly you're a protestant it's like
the accusations of schismaticand heretic from the lady
towards each other are reallyout of hand.
So yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:16:08):
We got 20 years to go because you guys were only
around for like three yearsbefore this conclave.
So you guys got 20 years to getwith all the Catholic
influencers and put up acandidate.
You know, rig the election.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
I'm going to be under your authority, Cardinal.
That's true Just as long as thecandidate isn't Anthony Obama.
I'm going to fall into yourjurisdiction, so I'm not worried
.
Traditionalists are just asmall percentage.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
All right, bro, we'll talk on one day I'll get you
guys who we got next rob uh, andall and all your mic and camera
are working, so I can't throwyou up there.
So we have people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Monarchist okay, so for people hold on one sec, the
people in the chat that areasking how do you call in?
Like we really had to open itup to locals members and youtube
members, essentially becausethose are the people that
support us the most.
So if we run out of those, wewill open it up to the main
youtube chat.
If you want to have a chance, Ilike, I think youtube

(01:17:13):
memberships only like threebucks and I think you know, I
think some people, sometimespeople like, buy free
memberships and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
So if you see a free membership pop up, you could
grab those if somebody and ifyou are a youtuber locals member
and you didn't you joined lateand didn't see I posted a, a
community post for youtubemembers, and in the, in the live
chat on locals, I posted thelink.
So those are the two places youcan go to get the link.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Okay, all right.
People, monica is with people,monica's enjoyer.
What is your question?

Speaker 19 (01:17:48):
Um, hi, hello, I didn't expect to make it on here
.
Um, yeah, big fan of the showyou guys.
Um, I'm fully big fan of theshow you guys.
I'm fully radicalized thanks toyou guys.
So thanks for that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Not even that radical dude Ready to go on?

Speaker 19 (01:18:06):
crusade when we get a more militant pope in office.
My question is I'm a young guy,young professional, just got
out of college, just startingout.
I'm a young guy, youngprofessional, just got out of
college, just starting out.
What's some advice from some ofthe guys a bit further ahead of

(01:18:26):
me on, like you know, finding agood Catholic woman and
settling down that kind of thing?
I know I know Really reallysensitive question to answer.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Where do you?
Live.
Oh, you're going to love thisLos Angeles.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
You live in LA.
Yeah, that's actually not asbad as you would think for
finding.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
I get to have uh, I get to have the cubist cathedral
, but yeah, I, I mean I, Ihonestly, I a lot of guys think
like you have to meet a girl inchurch or you have to.
I I don't, I'm not, I'm not bigon that, not not because I
don't think it's a good thing todo, but I think any chance you
get to talk to a girl, you gotto kind of just throw a shot out
there and take a crack at it.

(01:19:05):
And if you meet a girl with theright temperament, I think that
if she sees the kind of lifeyou're leading, I think holiness
is attractive and I think, likea man just being a man.
One thing I'm going to tell youguys, especially you Catholic
guys you don't, you don't youunderestimate your worth, like

(01:19:27):
you don't know how valuable whatyou have to offer actually is.
You guys all underestimate howunbelievably valuable it is to
be a man who actually wants toget married and have children
and provide for a woman.
There is not that many men whowant to do that.
Now if you can internalize thatand turn that into confidence

(01:19:47):
because you know what youactually do have to offer, the
girls will come a lot easier toyou guys, I think.
I think a lot of guys areintimidated by girls.
They're afraid to get shot down.
But if you have the confidenceto know, like I know, you're
going to go and get one nightstanded by that clown over there
.
So do you want to have time?
Like, do you want to have yourtime wasted?
Go ahead, go waste your time.
But if you want to actuallymeet somebody that's going to

(01:20:10):
you know, give you a shot at avalid future, I'm the guy you
want to talk to.
Like you guys have to approachwomen with a confidence like
that and I think you'll have amuch better shot.
And then if you meet a girl whowho likes a guy, that comes
with that approach, you're gonnayou're gonna be in a good place
yeah, anthony's right about the, the.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
you gotta find someone with the matching
temperament and ultimatelythat's probably more important
than than finding, you know,someone who is right away like a
committed Catholic, becausejust because a woman is a
committed Catholic, they mayalso be a feminist who will
never really, you know, submitto you.
But Anthony and I both foundour wives like when we were not

(01:20:50):
really practicing Catholics andbecause of the temperament
compatibility when him and Iboth made the decision like, if
you know, now is now is the timewe are going to really start to
live our faiths.
Like like my wife felt, likeshe enthusiastically followed me
into it and and does so to thisday, where I think, if I, you

(01:21:15):
know, went and found a woman atchurch, it's very likely I would
have found an uber feminist.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
unfortunately, Rob and I both married non-Catholic
girls.
Yeah, like both of our wiveswere Protestant and they're both
devout Catholics now and theylove the faith, so I'm not going
to say marry Like that was notintentional by the way, yeah,
don't marry out of the church.
I would not say marry aProtestant girl.
I would not going to say marry,that was not intentional, by

(01:21:43):
the way.
Don't marry out of the church.
I would not say marry aProtestant girl.
I would not say marry a girlwho does not have the faith.
I would say don't be afraid tomeet a girl that is not Catholic
or something and make surebefore you're married I would
ensure conversion is going tohappen.
You guys are on the same pagethere.
It just happened to work outproperly for Rob and I.
But I would not limit yourselfto only traditional parishes to
meet a girl.
I would not limit yourself toonly meeting a girl in adoration

(01:22:03):
.
Be open to meeting a girlanywhere and then start to talk
about God and just see wherethey're at with God, you know,
and try to find a girl with alittle bit of depth.
And if you can find a girl whothinks a little bit deeper about
life and isn't just caught upin buying you know, whatever the
Kardashians are wearing you'redoing all right for yourself and
that's at least a place whereyou could start to build from.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
If she was super excited about Taylor Swift
getting engaged, drop itimmediately, got it.

Speaker 19 (01:22:33):
Yeah, no, I appreciate all of that.
So you're telling me if Iattend a traditional Latin mass,
then a trad woman won't justfall into my lap.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
No, I'm going to tell you, some of the trad women are
the most feminist you'll find,by the way.
I'm just going to be honestwith you.
Yeah, no, I found that out theright way.
How much school debt you got?
Zero, okay, dave Ramsey, I'mjust asking man.
Really, you guys are all comingout of college.

(01:23:04):
Well, I made sure my childrendidn't get wrapped into school
debt, that is the one thing,civil engineer, just started my
first job and zero college debt.
Dude, you have a lot to offer agirl.
Do not underestimate what youhave to offer a girl.
And when you have a lot tooffer a girl, Do not
underestimate what you have tooffer a girl.
And when you meet a girl, comeat her with that confidence, Say
I'm a civil engineer Like I canprovide a lifestyle for you.

(01:23:26):
You want to go hang out withthe bum that's selling bags of
weed on the corner?
Go ahead.
I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
The guy over there is selling American flags right
after 9-11.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
All right settle down .
I appreciate that, gentlemen.
I really appreciate theconfidence.
It was nice meeting you,brother.
Yeah, thank you man.
All right, who we got next?
Alex Malone.
Alex Malone, who we've met afew times, alex.
What's happening brother.
Yo, what's up, Good good.

Speaker 21 (01:23:55):
Yeah, just wanted to call in just to see how things
are going.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Wait, before anything , you are an enigma, alex, when
I met Alex he told me he hadnever, ever had a fight with his
wife.
Is that still the case, yearson in marriage?

Speaker 18 (01:24:11):
Well, I've been married three years and, yeah, I
can't really say I've had likethis, like a real battle.
I mean, sometimes we havedisagreements, but maybe it's
just my wife's personality, butshe's like very good with like
getting along with what I wantto do, so it kind of works out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
He's not kidding.
Alex is not putting on a front.
Alex left his wife in philly ata hotel and drove to
pennsylvania to come and hangout with us for a night and just
left his wife at the hotel, soI'm gonna hang with the boys he
tells us that we're like you didwhat, so alex is not putting on
a no yeah no, yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:24:57):
So yeah, just glad I just want to, just want to
check up with y'all and uh callin and, um, hey, yeah, when's uh
, when's the next uh ab outinggoing to happen?
I?

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
gotta, I gotta make it out, because you came down to
north carolina too, right?
Yeah yeah, yeah, alex is.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Alex is a soldier man there is going to kind of be
one at sebastian's baptism Imean, if you haven't, if you
guys want to meet in minneapolis, right I?
Know a lot of the um themidwestern area folks and the
telegram are might plan to showup.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
So yeah, but and then look rob's have rob just had a
newborn, so we do have to lethim get settled in a little bit.
But once Hope gets a grip onthings and she can handle, you
know, when the baby needs24-hour service, we'll try and
plan something and we'll try andfigure something out and we'll

(01:25:52):
leave the wives at home andwe'll get the boys together
again.

Speaker 18 (01:25:54):
Awesome, awesome.
All right, we're lookingforward to it.
One more thing, so um with um,just uh, when you had taylor
marshall on um, you didn'tdidn't ask my super chat of when
he'll be getting back with tntoh, you know why?

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
look it's.
I honestly, I saw the.
I'm just, I'm just I mean it'sI.

Speaker 18 (01:26:16):
I don't, I don't want you, I don't want to burn
any bridges, obviously that'swhat it is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
I don't know if he would take it as a joke or if
it's too sensitive of a subject.
But, I'm not going to put himon the spot like that.
Look, they have to work thatout on their own.
I'm not jumping in the middleof that.
I would love to see a TNTreunion as much as anybody else,
but that's on them yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:26:42):
Yeah, I totally get it.
I was just kind of messing withyou guys.
But if you did ask, that wouldhave been, you know, but it
would have been interesting.
But yeah, great, talk with youall again and hope to get
together soon.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Yeah, see you soon, Alex man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Yeah, thanks, man, it's always good talking with
you to get together soon.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
See you soon, Alex.
I've met Alex twice in personnow.
Congrats, Rob, by the way, onthe new baby.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Thank you very much, man.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
We'll talk to you soon, Alex.
Thank you, brother.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Okay, anzaler, all good.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
There we go.

Speaker 6 (01:27:17):
Hi you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
How do you pronounce this?
My name is Anna, so Anzaler,that's Anna.
Hi you guys.
How do you pronounce this?

Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
My name is Anna, so Ann Zoller, that's my last name
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you too.
Two questions First, one veryserious, anthony I need recipes
for dinner that my husbandsprung on me.
Give me your Nona's bestItalian Rob.
You can chime in in too, but ifyou say anything about hot dish

(01:27:41):
, it's not gonna happen wow,honestly, anna, I'll put you in
touch with my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
I don't do the cooking at my home.
My wife is a phenomenal cook,but if you want my wife will.
My wife will hook you up.
That woman can cook better thanmy own mother, which honestly I
am just.

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
He threw it on me.
He's like sat Saturday,saturday evening, you have to
have something.
I'm like I have no idea.
So second question, moreserious I am homeschooling my
children.
I'm looking at curriculum and Iactually started pre-reading a
lot of stuff for high school.
My kids are like eight yearolds, so I'm prepping for high
school.

(01:28:16):
I'm sort of pre-reading one ofthe textbooks that they're going
to be using and it's I think isit HC Roberts' History of the
World.
I might be wrong about thefirst name it's Roberts' History
of the World.
It's a fairly well-knownhistory of the world and I'm

(01:28:36):
about five chapters in andrealizing that this man's whole
perspective on history iscompletely skewed.
He's obviously secular, um,it's, I think, supposed to be.
It's.
I'm using a catholic curriculumand I think he's being proposed
as a secular source, as a sortof foil to the catholic view of
history.
Um, but some of the things thathe's saying are just so

(01:28:59):
perverted.
Um, so he's obviously like,literally the first two or three
chapters was just aboutevolution, like starting with
the travel dates.
Um, the first thing he broughtup about um, sumer and their
mythology was that, um, thechristians eventually adopted um
some of their gods and icons inorder to understand Christ,

(01:29:25):
like really horrific stuff.
And I'm wondering how you two,rob, kind of in anticipation,
and Anthony you're dealing withhigh schoolers right now, high
schoolers right now how you haveapproached dealing with giving
your children secularinformation so that they're
aware of it, but also presentingthe truth as we know it, as

(01:29:49):
Catholics, to them.
How have you encountered thatproblem?

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Oh, you want to go first, Rob.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Well, I was just going to say like so my oldest,
we just did kindergarten and sowe we haven't experienced it a
lot yet, but he's really intoscience, um, physics, astronomy,
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
So dinosaurs is so hard michael hitchborn's a good
one to ask about that, becausemichael hitchborn loved that.
You want to know something.
Did you ever watch our episodeon the pre?
Like the antediluvian world,the world before.

Speaker 6 (01:30:24):
I absolutely did.
I was trying to get my husbandto listen to it.
He has not bought into it atall.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
I love Hitchborn.
The evolution topic LogosRising.
The first few chapters of LogosRising, michael E.
Logos Rising the first fewchapters of Logos Rising,
michael E.
Michael Jones's book willcompletely destroy anybody's
notion of evolution because hejust goes through how, how

(01:30:49):
incoherent it is and howillogical it is that you know
how and how could an eye develop, like, how can nature choose a
gene?
Like, if it's, if it's naturalselection, how can nature select
the gene?
Like, if it's a brand, if it'snatural selection, how can
nature select a gene that doesnot exist yet it can't come from
a single cell organism, the waythey explain it.
So that was the first crack infor me with evolution was

(01:31:10):
reading emichael jones's bookand then going uh into speaking
with, um uh, hugh owens.
So that that was, that was.
That was what kind of dissuadedme of any of the ideas of
evolution and then just seeingit as restored stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
That, yeah, they've done yeah, I haven't looked.

Speaker 6 (01:31:29):
I looked at it.
I haven't purchased it yet.
I guess so is your approachthen, anthony to present the
truth first, is that what youwould recommend?
Present the truth first?
Is that what you wouldrecommend?
Present the truth first andthen introduce the secular ideas
as a foil?
I think that, again, I thinkthat's what this curriculum is
attempting to do with Roberts.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
So what I always especially with my older kids
and my son specifically becausehe was so curious about it, I
always like it was always like,okay, look, you're going to be
presented with this.
But I want you to criticallythink about this.
And as I was reading MichaelJones's book, I was sharing
those ideas with my son and kindof going through a lot of them

(01:32:07):
and then, um and it's, you know,it's going to be very dependent
on on each of your kids and howthey, how they perceive
knowledge.
I think cause each kid is goingto be different, but my, my son
was always super inquisitiveabout it.
My daughter just doesn't care,like she just doesn't care she's
like she's like I don't care,like it just was never an

(01:32:29):
interest of hers, but my son wassuper inquisitive about it.
Um, with the history stuff,I'll tell you a really good
secular book on christianhistory is tom holl Holland's
book.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
First two or three chapters anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Well, I would say up to the Reformation was really
good.
Like if you read Tom Holland'sbook Dominion, it basically
tells you the history of howChristianity spreads and then he
has a very Protestant take onafter the Reformation.
But up to that point I thoughtit was really solid.

Speaker 6 (01:33:05):
I was actually looking oh, go ahead looking.
Oh, go ahead, rob.
No, no you go.
I was gonna say um forchristian history specifically,
I found henry better, danielropes um, it's 10 volumes, it's
like 10 000 pages.
Um, his his 10 volumes on, uh,christian civilization is
excellent.
It's just it reads like a noveland it's just fascinating and
it's written from a Catholicperspective.
The problem is it is abajillion pages long and I think

(01:33:27):
that's that's the.
That's the thing that I'm kindof running into is how much time
do I spend teaching aboutsecular history or do I just do?
I just give them everythingcatholic and then they go out
into the world completelyignorant.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
It's kind of where?

Speaker 6 (01:33:42):
where's the where's the balance?
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
for for me.
So, like I was saying, like my,my oldest loves science you
know, and he and he watchesvideos, secular videos on
science, um, and what.
what I try to do is just withall my kids, give them just this
whole view of the world throughthe Catholic lens.

(01:34:05):
Sure, see everything throughsalvation history, really.
And then I think you can takesome of these secular theories
or findings, especially withphysics and stuff like that, and
I think it's rather easy toactually fit it into you know, a

(01:34:27):
truly Catholic view of theworld.
You know, and if these you knowto say to my six-year-old like
you know this, whatever thistheory in physics is or whatever
they you know, whatever findingthey just did in astronomy, do
you really think that happenedjust due to random chance?
Or does it make more sense thatyou know a God who has

(01:34:48):
literally planned everythingfrom from from before history
ever began, planned for this anddesigned this and and you know
I'm not talking about aboutintelligent design through
evolution, that BS, but just ingeneral.
I think if you give them thatgood base, then you can be the
one to address the secularthings and have them look at

(01:35:12):
that through a Catholic lens.

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
I might relegate this Roberts book then to the trash
heap.
It's pretty bad.
It's pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Have you ever looked into Christopher Dawson?

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
I have not no.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
So he's, he's another , uh, really really good great
Catholic historian.
He was really the same area,the same not area the same um
era as, uh, as as ROPS, ropes,whatever that is.

Speaker 6 (01:35:41):
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
I don't think he's quite as wordy and a lot of his
work kind of has thisAugustinian city of God or city
of man sort of feel, where he hekind of walks you through all
of history from that Augustinianperspective.

Speaker 6 (01:36:02):
I knew it was a good idea to tune in tonight.
All right, you guys, I'm goingto let you go, but you gave me
some really good ideas.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, have a good night you too, Richie.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
Richie and Sam's up next, then we got Mr CL Lehman,
and then I think we can open itup to YouTube.
So, uh, all right what's up,rich?

Speaker 25 (01:36:22):
How much guys.
What's going on with you?

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Not bad.

Speaker 25 (01:36:25):
Okay.
So, rob, do you mind if I yellat Anthony for a quick moment?
Oh no, no, no no, I'll mutemyself trivia one time.
You're like we're gonna open itup to twitter followers and
it's gonna be great.
I was the only one and the restwere like the youtuber,
catholic people, and I was somad, so mad.

(01:36:45):
Oh you, you were on with us.
Yeah, I was on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
This is rich from canada.

Speaker 25 (01:36:49):
Okay, all right yeah okay, so so live it still mad
to this day.
No, I'm just kidding, it's fine, I just I just want to give you
a hard time for that.
No, my question for questionfor you, gentlemen, though, is I
know, um Flanders has talkedabout it a little bit, but are
you guys aware of the history of, like the Catholic Métis in
Western Canada and like LouisRiel and everything?
Have you heard about this?

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
I've I've heard some of it mostly from, from Flanders
, uh, but I don't know likespecific names and individuals.

Speaker 25 (01:37:18):
Yeah, like I find so I'm, I'm in Saskatchewan and
like I'm a German background.
So, rob, you and I are probablyrelated because most of my
family actually came out ofMinnesota.
Okay, they're first generationAmericans then came up, but
anyways.
So it's interesting because thelast two wars fought in Canada
in the late 1800s were CatholicMétis fighting Protestants that

(01:37:39):
they brought over from Ontario,and it happened both in Winnipeg
was the first one, and LouisRiel came back an hour north of
where I live and I it's.
It's a part of like Catholichistory that like people don't
recognize.
Like I loved, when Cologne andKennedy Hall did a, they did a
thing on Catholic Canada,because like we hate the east,
like out west, here it's likethe south hates the north.
It's the exact same thing.
Loved, uh, when colomb andkennedy hall did a, they did a
thing on catholic canada because, like we hate the east, like

(01:38:00):
out west, here it's like thesouth hates the north.
It's the exact same thing.
You know, one day the west willrise again and we are going to
become independent again.
Just ask brian holdsworth, youknow, him and I are on the same
page, um, but like, yeah, likehow catholic is your area that
you live, rob, because you're ina german area, right uh?

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
no, I'm so, I'm actually not.
I don't live in a german area.
Now, okay, the area I live inis largely either finnish or
slovenian.
Um, okay, the both the fins onthe slovenians came over uh,
here to to mine iron ore.
Uh, most especially theslovenians, but uh, those, the

(01:38:38):
slovenians, were actually verycatholic, and one of the, the
first priest in the area, was aslovenian missionary named
father boo or ba.
I think it's boo, but he'sactually.
He has a cause for canonizationopen right now.
Um, and then you had like, uh,bishop baragaga also came to

(01:38:58):
this area.
He's another Slovenianmissionary, more well-known in
Michigan, but no, so the area inthe past was very Catholic, but
not so much anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
My extent of Catholic , canadian, catholic knowledge
is the movie the Robe, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
No, I confess that was in Montreal.
Oh, I confess that's it.
No, I confess that was inMontreal, oh, I confess that's
right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
People are asking about your door, Richie.
They want to know if it's aportal to an Xbox game or
something Okay.

Speaker 25 (01:39:28):
So, funny enough, when we bought this house, the
whole bedroom was this color, sothe bottom half was black and
then the top half was the green.
So this is currently in myoffice, but because we have too
many children, I have toactually move my office into the
garage and the garage.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
I think you love the canadian accent we also say
mazda and lasagna.

Speaker 25 (01:39:54):
So please don't, please don't yell at me.
Um, I actually lived in thestates for two years, so I've
heard all this before.
Um, but no, uh, yeah, so thewhole room was this color and so
we're like, oh, we'll paint itwhite.
I'm like, yeah, whatever, Idon't care.
And I'm like, but I'm keepingthe door.
The door will stay forever.
So dude.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
yeah, do not watch the robe, guys.
There's uh, there's like, uh,there's probably I don't know,
it's been years since I saw it,but I'm sure there's bad stuff
in it.
But yeah, all right.
So, richie, if you're nearBanff, we're going to Banff in
December.
If you're out west in Canada,we're going to Banff in December
.
So, yeah, I'll try to get youthose dates.
I think Brian Holdsworth isgoing to pop in for a night,

(01:40:32):
mike Pantile is going to pop infor a night and I'm heading over
and over there with all theguys and girls that went to
Italy for our pilgrimage.
So we had such a good timetogether that we're going to
head out there in December.
So if you're free and you wantto come pop in, feel free.

Speaker 25 (01:40:45):
I'll definitely pop in.
It's a little closer thancrashing the baptism.
So you got anything else.
No, that's it for me, thank you, just keep doing what you're
doing.
Congrats, rob, and hopefullywe'll see you guys in December
then.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
All right, thanks, rich.
All right, who we got next?

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
Is this, Mr Sam Rhodes?
Hey?
What's going on, gentlemen?

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Is this Sam Rhodes?
Yeah, what's going on guys?
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:41:13):
I can only talk to myself so much.
What's up Sam?
Hey, so much.
What's up sam?
Hey guys, I just want to jumpon and tell y'all how much I
appreciate you guys andeverything y'all do.
I've been listening for aboutmaybe two years now and y'all
been just a light ofencouragement in this sea of
sadness and modernism in theworld so well thank you, no, I,
I, I think, uh, I think itactually is.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Like you know, people in the comments have called us
like the, like the frat boys ofCatholicism, and they don't like
our show.
Better than.
The View.
That is true.
That's what really called you,whoopi Goldberg, yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Better than Joy Bayar .

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
Yeah, I couldn't believe he said it.
We appreciate all you guys thathave stuck, especially you guys
that have been around for acouple of years now.
You guys helped us get thischannel off and running.
We appreciate you guys havebeen around for for a couple of
years now, man, you guys, youguys.
You guys helped us get thischannel off and running.

Speaker 23 (01:42:02):
So we appreciate you guys.
Good.
Well, I'll leave you all with aquestion who would you rather
have as your chaplain on apilgrimage?
Would you rather have fatherripager take you to rome, or
would you rather have fatherdave nix take you to the holy
land?

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
I'm gonna last time father nix went to the holy land
.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
A war broke out, so yes, but I'll always choose
father nicks, just because I Ilove that guy, I have a like
he's a.
Father nicks is my friend, youknow, and when we got, when we
went to pennsylvania together,that whole trip would have been
so different without him.
That man takes prayer veryseriously.
He spends, he praises hisdivine office every day and he

(01:42:38):
turned what would have just beena boy's trip.
He turned it into a realretreat and we got to celebrate
mass every day and we pray therosary together as men every day
.
And then we also got to do thethings we would have done if we
did not have a priest with us.
But Father Nix is always goingto be, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Father Nix does say and this is kind of a secret
that Father ripperger has thebest meme game out there.
Oh yeah, that all fatherripperger likes to do is send
funny memes via text.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Yeah, well now.
Now I'm only going to say, if Iknew father ripperger as well
as I knew father nicks, I mightfeel different.
But father nicks, you know,he's just, he's my boy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
I would love, or do we want to tour Auschwitz with
Father Maudsley?

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
I'm going to probably choose that one.
I've got to be honest.
I'm going to do Auschwitz with.
Maudsley is going to be the oneI'll probably go, just because
I think I'll learn the most.

Speaker 23 (01:43:33):
Rob, after you show me the information about Father
Maudsley, I wonderender becausethey got Twitter burner account.
He just like put spicy memes onon.
He just trolls us all.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
You know, I don't think so, he loves it, but he
likes to text them to friends.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
All right, it was nice meeting you, brother, yeah.
Nice to see you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
If you, uh, if you make it to the bat, if you can
make it to the baptism let meknow.

Speaker 23 (01:44:00):
I'll let you know when the date is, sam, okay,
yeah.
I'm kind of busy the next fewweekends now, but just let me
know, Okay, will do man Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Mr C Lehman Is that?

Speaker 10 (01:44:07):
his name.

Speaker 16 (01:44:09):
Mr C Lehman.
Hey guys, not much Mega dittosto bring it back to old radio
talk.
Really appreciate you guys.
Kind of hard to follow upFather Motley and the Auschwitz
talk.
I had a question in terms ofwithin Catholicism, what would

(01:44:32):
be your most liberal opinionLike do dogs go to heaven or is
everybody going to be saved atthe end?
Like what would be your mostliberal?

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
my, mine's pretty easy.
For me uh, I guess mine is, ifany if.
If not anything else, it's it'sthe hope that that unborn
children go to heaven, and forme it's just because I've I have
three that that didn't make itto, so I just hope I see them in
heaven.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
That's a good one.
That's a hard one to top right.
The limbo of the infants is one.
My most liberal opinion, man,yeah, look, I I'll so, so okay.

(01:45:21):
So my, my most like, myinnermost thought on this is
that maybe there's a chance thatgod has mercy upon suicides.
But I don't think there's evera place to teach that.
Yeah, like I don't thinkthere's ever a place to teach
that, because I think it sends atotally warped message and we
should be telling peoplesuicides are cowards and you
should never do it becauseyou're going to burn and help

(01:45:42):
return.
But my hope like I'm kind ofone of those guys who you know
there, we hope, but I I justhope that there's a chance that
God is he sees something inpeople suffering like that, so
bad that they're.
You know it depends on thecircumstances, of course.
I think any guy does it.
Who has a family leaves behind.
That's just disgusting.
You see, maybe a young teenager, because one of my best friends

(01:46:04):
took his life when I was a kidand he was just so hurt, he was
just in so much emotional painand stuff like that.
It's not that it's a liberalopinion, but it's a liberal hope
.

Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
That was a good question.
That was very deep Well, fromAuschwitz to suicide.
Yeah, this might qualify.
My most liberal opinion is thatI can wear jeans to bed.
I don't think it's okay to wearjeans to bed.
He hopes it is.
I'm not a fan of suits, that'sfor sure.

Speaker 16 (01:46:41):
Color shirt, at least right.
Well, it depends.
Nobles order, obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Yeah, Mrs C saying not my husband, by the way, Not
my husband, I got to tell you.
I am very surprised at howdiverse our audience is, Rob.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
I was just surprised that the first two guys were
wearing wife beaters.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
I wasn just surprised that the first two guys were
wearing wife beaters.

Speaker 16 (01:47:03):
I wasn't surprised by that at all.
To be honest, avoiding BabylonDEI, all right, it was very nice
meeting you, man.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
All right.
Who do we got next?
We got Brock.
I think we know Brock Brock'sbeen on with us, right, do we?

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
know Brock?
Do we know Brock?
You're thinking Brick?
Hold on.
No, don't we know.
Hasn't Brock been on with us?
Hold on, brock's got two open.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
Brock's got two open and neither of them working.

Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
Neither of them are working.
Brock, I'm going to leave youthere in case you get them
working.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
All right, and then we got St Anthony Padua Radtrad.
This is are you there yet?
Well, it's really Gregory.
Yeah, I'm here.
What's going on?
What's happening, brother, me,and you still haven't ironed out
a date yet.
What's going?

Speaker 14 (01:47:42):
on you put Keith Nestor's hair to shame.
That guy's hair is weak.
What's going on?
No, dude, I just I don't know.
I thought about coming on.
I thought maybe we had to talk.
I don't know what to talk about.
I thought maybe we had to talk.
I don't know what to talk about.
I thought we'd talk a littlebit about the SSPX.
I was curious what yourthoughts on them were, because I

(01:48:03):
don't hear you talk too muchabout it, so I was curious.
I'll tell you what I think andthen let me see if what you
think is accurate.
I see the SSPX as kind of likepracticales, if that makes sense
.
They just haven't taken thatleap, if that makes sense.

(01:48:26):
I mean, what are your thoughtson that?

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
I think they like the structure that's in place.
I do think there are manypeople that attend who probably
hold Sedevacanta's views.
I know a few, a few Sedes whoattend the SSPX.
I personally, I personally willgo, no problem, I don't know.

(01:48:54):
I think there's a necessaryplace for them.
I think they're a necessityright now.
I mean, if you're going to askmy opinions on Lefebvre, I think
that we owe Lefebvre a hugedebt.
I think that I don't know, man,I think that times are so
confusing right now that I amvery generous in where people

(01:49:17):
land, because things are soconfusing.
So, if somebody lands in theSETI position or somebody lands
in the SSPX position, somebodylands in a Latin mass position,
or even, like I even see peoplethat are just, you know, normie
novus ordo.
I think if everybody is goingat that position from a desire
to do what they feel God istelling them to do what they

(01:49:38):
feel God is telling them to do,it's too confusing right now to
say you're wrong, you're wrong,you're wrong, you're wrong.
I honestly don't know my ownposition on it.
It's too confusing.

Speaker 14 (01:49:48):
The reason I bring that up because I know probably
most of your audience, I'massuming, is probably like
traditional Novus Odo type,maybe like FSSP, maybe Indult
Latin Mass type.
Yeah, I mean I know there's afew set.
Is you know on here that watchlike Sellycast crew but like
other than, but like for themost part I'm assuming you guys

(01:50:10):
are like Indult, some SSPX butwhatever that kind of view.
But I think that there's a very.
When it comes to the set of acontest world, it's not as known
, but we're the set of contestman.
If you go to any one of ourchapels, we're just, we're just
regular, just catholic, catholicdudes man and I.

(01:50:35):
I think that if peopleunderstand I think people don't,
I don't know if they're just, Idon't know what they're
thinking when it comes to theSSPX, that they have a more FSSP
view.
But the SSPX takes very strongstances that a lot of the things
that that sort of contest wouldagree with, like saying the new
mass is evil, you know, sayingthat the things of Vatican II,

(01:50:57):
like religious liberty andecumenism and so forth, are
heretical.
Some question the validity ofthe new rites of consecration or
ordination, whether or notthese are even valid priests.
Some do.
That's not their stanceofficially.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
There's no unified stance among setes, even, but
that's what I mean by.
I'm very lenient to people thatland on different positions.
And just to say, like the videowhere I was making criticism, I
was speaking very specificallyabout online settees.
I wasn't talking about peopleat their parish.

(01:51:32):
I wasn't talking about setteepriests.
I wasn't talking about anythinglike that.
I was talking very specificallyabout my impressions of people
on Twitter that lean towardsthat and just the tendency of
many online set A's tend to beautistic.
It's just the way it is.
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:51:53):
I think people on Twitter are that way in general,
man.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
We like to just fight when we talk face-to-face, it's
all good.

Speaker 3 (01:52:00):
I think the problem is, for many people, the only
set of a contest that they'relikely to meet are probably
going to be those on Twitter oron other online social medias.
I think that's one thing thatyour average trad needs to maybe
worry about more, because if TCis here to stay and the Latin

(01:52:25):
Mass is to remain restricted,then it's not like the Samorin
Pontificum era where you haveparishes that are saying both
and people can get to know tradsin person.
It could become the point wherethe only trads they know are
online and many trads onlinearen't great.

Speaker 14 (01:52:46):
I guess my hope is because I know that there's
dialysis and Latinx people thatwill never go to SSPX and will
certainly never go to SETI.
But if you're an SSPxer, theway I, the way I look at you and
I think they should look at setof a contest, is that we're so
close that it's like, look at,they shouldn't have this, uh

(01:53:13):
animosity toward us.
Like you go to sspx, you andyou go to set of contest chapel,
you're almost going to see,really yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
I agree with that.

Speaker 14 (01:53:20):
It's so minimal a difference and their thinking's
very similar.
That we're basically brothersis what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 14 (01:53:31):
That's what I want to communicate.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
Yeah, I would say Sedevacantus have to stop,
especially online.
I don't know.
I've never gone to a set, achapel or anything but online.
They have to stop looking atpeople that don't come to the
same conclusions as them asidiots.
Like it's not an easy thing tocome to and you came to that
decision and that's that's okay,but, like the people that that

(01:53:55):
didn't come to the sameconclusions, you got to give a
little leniency to as well.
Like it's it just that's whatit comes down to.
It's like the times are soconfusing you have to give a
little bit of leniency.
Some of the people I respectmore than anything that I that
have been on this show but havenot really come out publicly
about their stance are set of acontest, and I respect those
people.
I think they're very smart andI think that they're uh, they

(01:54:16):
didn't come to that lightly.
It's not like they just didn'tlike the Novus Ordo, so they
became set of a contest.

Speaker 14 (01:54:22):
It's something they thought very deeply about.
It's usually a trickle and itusually goes from an adult TLM
and then they end up going tofinding an FSSP, sspx and then
resistance and then set it.
It typically goes like that Notalways, but for the most part
there's this progression,because I personally think

(01:54:43):
that's a logical progression,but it tends to go like that
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
I don't know, I would just take any of them within
100 miles of me.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
Rob will be at the SSPV tomorrow.
If it was around the block.
Are you kidding?

Speaker 14 (01:55:00):
Here's a question for either one of you.
Let's say we're kicking itright and we're buddies and
there's no other chapel aroundon a Sunday but a set of a
contest chapel.
Would you go to that?
Would you be like, hey, let'sgo to the set of a contest
chapel?
Would you say it's Catholic, orwould you say I can't go to
that chapel?

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
I mean, I would say canon law makes it pretty clear.
I could go to that if that'sthe only one around.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
I will say I've been to a mass where the priest did
not say the Pope's name in thecanon.

Speaker 14 (01:55:33):
I've already done it .
So I mean, are you saying thisis right after Francis passed
away?

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
No, no, no.
During the Francis pontificate.
During the francis pontificateI went to.
I basically attended a set amass.
So I mean, I don't think I'veever said that publicly, but
yeah, do.

Speaker 14 (01:55:48):
Okay.
Do you want to say what groupit was?
It wasn't a group it was.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
It was just independent priest, I, I yeah,
it was an independent priest,and I can't say who, because I
don't want to Not independent inthe Not independent in the
independent sense, if that makessense.
Yeah, I just don't want to getthe guy in trouble, so we'll
leave it at that.

Speaker 14 (01:56:08):
I do find that interesting.
I do find that interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
Yeah, look I'm.
I just yeah.
My thoughts are I haven't cometo a definitive answer myself
and I'm kind of just waiting onGod right now.
That's kind of where I land.

Speaker 14 (01:56:25):
I will say, when it comes to this set of accountants
, I'm more seti-ecumenist.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Yeah, you're look like I said.
I know there are a bunch ofsetis that I think I really like
.
You're definitely up there,even the oh man what the heck is
his name?
The Thomas kid, wm Review.
Wm Review.

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
I really like I like Novus Ordo Watch oh.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
Scholastic Zoomer.
Scholastic Zoomer.
I really like that kid.
It's just.
It's one of those situations ofa couple bad apples ruining the
bunch.
Tommy, I like Tommy Burrito.

Speaker 14 (01:57:06):
Oh yeah, he's one of the Sailor Cast misfits that I
align myself with.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
You align yourself with a bunch of misfits.
I'll give you that I'm a misfit.

Speaker 14 (01:57:16):
okay, I'm a misfit even in the steady world.
I'll give you that I'm a misfit.
I'm a misfit even in the steadyworld.
I'll let you go.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Maybe you come on Monday when I do the show with
those guys.
We're going to get Majarian on.
I don't want to say your namepublicly, so I'll just leave it
at St Anthony Rattrat.
Thanks, man, bring my boy on.
Where's my boy?

Speaker 27 (01:57:37):
What's up y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
How?
Where's my boy?
What's up?

Speaker 27 (01:57:40):
how we doing.
What's up y'all how y'all doingwith those glasses?
I'm Jeffrey Dahmer for the dayyeah.
I have so many questions, butI'm trying to sort through the
ones that will get you canceledthe most.
The ones that will get youcanceled.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
Can I just say I can't believe.
Nobody asked like what is youropinion on this other guy?
What is it Like?
Nobody's trying to get me intolike a beef with one of the
other creators.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
This audience has been wildly respectful.

Speaker 27 (01:58:07):
Respectful.
They're all so nice.

Speaker 1 (01:58:11):
Nobody was like okay, come on, Tell us what you
really think of Matt Fradd.
Come on, nobody even tried toput me in that position.
It was strange.

Speaker 27 (01:58:18):
I had guys, so I had Taffy asking me to ask your
opinions on corporal spousalpunishment yeah.
And then I had someone in thechat asking me what your
favorite slur was.
All right, so low bar.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
Dago, wap Guinea.
Any of those.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
Yeah, I figured.

Speaker 27 (01:58:40):
I think we know what yours is, Anthony.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Listen, I'll just say if you ever had audio of me in
my car in traffic I'd becanceled immediately.
Um, the uh.
What was the first?
Corporal spousal punishment?
I don't think any man shouldever hit a woman.
I mean, I just don't.
I don't think that's necessary.
I am, I look, I'll give youthis.
My wife, my wife's, uh, biggest, uh, the biggest issue I have

(01:59:09):
with my wife is that she spendsmoney on the kids.
Like she just always wants toget things for the kids,
especially because I would notlet my kids go to college right,
like I, I'm not letting themget buried in dead at university
.
So my wife has this, this guiltthat like we were supposed to
send our kids away to collegeand we didn't do it for them.
So now we have to do and I hadto take my wife's card away the

(01:59:32):
other day Like no, you don'teven get a credit card anymore.
I can't trust you to go to thestore with my daughters.
You're getting cash allowance.
Now this is what you're allowedto spend.
Stop it Like that's that's.
You know, you gotta.
You gotta put restrictions thatyou gotta do it.
But no, I've never, I wouldnever, ever be okay with raising
my hand for my wife, exactly.

Speaker 27 (01:59:51):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean I, I obviously mirror the
same thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
It's a financial infidelity.
It's financial abuse.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Absolutely.
Oh if they ever knew how myhousehold is run, they would.
They would convince my wife tofile for divorce.
Yeah, Same.

Speaker 27 (02:00:07):
Oh yeah, lila Rose as well.
You know they're they'reinterviewing together, of course
.
Yeah, I uh, my, my biggestquestion is is about twitter.
Obviously, you know,chronically online, I'm on
twitter all the time and youknow I I see these accounts post

(02:00:27):
like the same post over andover again and like pisses me
off, right, um, so I try andcall those out.
But I wonder, is it worse withthe Indian slop posters or is it
?
Or are women worse on Twitter?
Like that's?
That's my, my struggle.
Are the e-girls worse than theslop posters?
It's like the ultimate dilemmaIf we can get rid of one with

(02:00:50):
with the Indians.

Speaker 3 (02:00:52):
I mean, at some level you got to respect the game
right.
They're both doing it for moneyright.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
Okay, but look, when I say e-girls, I'm speaking very
specifically about e-girls.
I don't think that women haveno place on Twitter.
I'm not saying because Iinteract with plenty of women
that are totally normal andthey're just giving a little bit
of feedback, but they're notfighting with men that aren't
their husband, right?
Like when I, when I see a womangetting angry on on Twitter at

(02:01:21):
some man that's not theirhusband, I'm like why are you
devoting this much of yourenergy and life to someone who's
not like?

Speaker 27 (02:01:30):
what are we?

Speaker 1 (02:01:30):
doing like.
I find it very off-putting andstrange when I see especially
the protestant girls, like thoseprotestants like the lizzie's
and the frizzy.

Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
Yeah, those girls nauseate me, like you know what
was kind of not karma, obviously, because we don't believe in
that, but was like divinejustice, was them all getting
fooled by, uh, patriarchy,hannah, yeah, it was kind of
funny the lack of criticalthinking yeah, and, and then

(02:02:06):
they have the.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
And then you have, like, the ones who are actually
a little bit like of theinfluencer types, right when
these are girls presentingthemselves as Christians,
wearing low cut dresses to luremen in with their figure and
things like that.
Like there's something so offputting about that to me that

(02:02:28):
they, like they just, especiallyin the protestant world.
These, these women haveabsolutely no concept of
accountability or likepreventing men from falling for
a sin.
Like they think that well,that's on you if you fall.
It's like no, we all actuallyhave a duty to make sure we
don't scandalize anybody orcause anybody to sin, or and it

(02:02:50):
extends that not just if youwear something and somebody
can't control themselves, itextends to causing like ruckus
amongst people.
Like like, if there's tons ofmen commenting on your feed,
like that's inappropriate.
Like no, I would never allow mywife to be engaging with
strange men and arguing andthey're looking at her cleavage
and they're getting upset, likeit's just.

(02:03:11):
I don't know the guys thatallow their wives to do that.

Speaker 27 (02:03:13):
I don't understand very strange for a husband to be
okay with that yeah 100 yeah, Ican't even imagine having my
wife just constantly emasculateme on the internet like day in,
day out.
Like that's brutal.
I you know, you got to pray foryour enemies and you got to
pray for those men that aregoing through that, because
that's just brutal.

(02:03:33):
They need to man up, get theirwipe off the internet to the
women who know how to be classyon the internet.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
I applaud you because I know plenty of them and
they're not doing what we'retalking about right now.
So, um, very, very, very smartdecision.

Speaker 27 (02:03:51):
Yes, you should.
Yeah, I mean, that's that's allI had.
Really.
I was trying to try my best toget y'all canceled real here,
real quick, but I think anthonyalready did that every
everybody's still on.

Speaker 1 (02:04:01):
Go uh, subscribe to the latin slavs podcast.
We still got out 300 people onyoutube and about 600 people on
x.

Speaker 27 (02:04:08):
If they're still watching I swear if y'all let
Crash Cannon get to 400 subsbefore we do.
I'm genuinely proud of that.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Even if you guys never watch a Latin Slavs
episode, go subscribe just toget them to 400 or 500, before
Chris does, because it will makeme angry.

Speaker 3 (02:04:28):
I don't know.
At least Chris has had me on,oh we'll get you on Rob.
Whenever you want.

Speaker 27 (02:04:34):
We're respecting the baby.
Thank you.
Whenever you're ready, we'llget you on.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
Yeah, go subscribe Latin Slavs Podcast.
We're going to see who we gotnext up on the line.

Speaker 27 (02:04:47):
I'll see y'all have a good night.

Speaker 1 (02:04:48):
Adios brother, we're going to see who we got next up
on the line I'll see y'all havea good night.
Adios, brother Brock.
Yeah, we've had Brock on before.
What happened, I don't know.
He just ended his own stream.

Speaker 3 (02:04:58):
No, I don't know, the camera cut out.
He's still connected, but thecamera cut out.

Speaker 1 (02:05:04):
Oh, this poor guy.
This is third attempt.

Speaker 3 (02:05:11):
We've had him on.
I think he looked familiar.
Jd.
I see what you're doing, don'tworry, we'll get you on bud, but
there's one more person in linein front of you.
Yeah, we got one person beforejd.

Speaker 22 (02:05:16):
Bg, bg hey everyone, how we doing can you hear
what's going on yes, we can hearyou nice, nice big fan of the
show.
So I have a kind of contentiousquestion, not so much uh,
modernist or novus ordo or radtrack setup, but uh, I have come

(02:05:37):
across a new uh youtuberannulment proof.
What do you all think overallabout natural family planning?
We just had him on before, dude, oh no, I just want to hear
your take on nfp and some of thethings that he shared or has
have expressed.
I didn't know who was onearlier, so that's why I'll be

(02:05:58):
honest I think that I actuallyhave to learn more about it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:02):
You know what it is.
It's never been an.
It's never been something I'vehad to consider, like I've never
used it, so I don't know.
Like there's never been any.
Any need for me to evenresearch has never been relevant
in my life in any way, so Idon't know.
I do know that, um, I do knowthat I see a lot of female

(02:06:22):
podcasters running aroundtalking about it as if it's
catholic birth control, so, butI never thought about it the way
an omen proof was talking aboutit, where same here, yeah.
I never thought about it deeplylike that.
Where they're?
They're adding the unitive wayto to make the natural the
natural subvert the supernatural.
So I I have to actually listento him and and hear him out
before I make a judgment call onthat no same here, so I'm kind

(02:06:45):
of in the same boat.

Speaker 22 (02:06:45):
Was never an issue for me, uh, but then I would
hear people getting roasted by,uh, people outside of the
catholic faith.

Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
As far as being like, okay, you just explained nfp
and it sounds like catholiccontraception, so I was like, oh
, compelling point so, you know,worth digging into and kind of
learning more about yeah, Ithink there's a difference in
like purposely using your cycleto avoid pregnancy and going a
time of of uh, being chasedbecause you just want to do it

(02:07:15):
for prayer or something or if,like you know, whatever there
has to be like a I don't know, I, I don't, I'd have to, I have
to look at.

Speaker 3 (02:07:23):
I've never even considered the question really
that deeply, so I guess we'regonna have to hear john out, and
I think it also kind of dependson, like like, what you mean by
, because if you, for instance,it could be said that my wife
and I used nfp to get pregnantto get pregnant, yeah, like
cycle tracking and best days youknow, in order to get pregnant.

(02:07:44):
Many people call that nfp um andI don't.
I obviously don't have aproblem with that um as far as
using it to avoid pregnancy like, at the very least, it has to
be reasons far graver than whatmost people, yeah, even talk
about.

Speaker 22 (02:08:00):
At the very least, I think one of the things I was
just that I knew I shouldn'thave said that yeah, I don't
even like that son, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:08:08):
Son of a.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Poor Hope's been pregnant forthree years since I met you, so
we've like with thebreastfeeding, you know, and
this doesn't work for everyone,but generally speaking, you
don't get pregnant until thechild you're breastfeeding weans
, right?
Weans, yeah, yeah, you don'tget pregnant until the child

(02:08:29):
you're breastfeeding weans,right, weans, yeah.
That's how it's worked out forus, where, once they start
weaning, between a year and ayear and a half Hope ends up
getting pregnant and we havethem spaced two years apart.

Speaker 1 (02:08:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (02:08:44):
That's also when he kicks the baby out of the bed.
Another can of worms?
No, it's just one of thosethings.
It seems like a slippery slopewhere it can be used in
irregular ways than maybe whatit was set out to do in the
beginning.
And I mean, you just see it sopopular with some of the bigger
Catholic influencers, so it'sinteresting, to say the least.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
Yeah, it's a very Catholic-ing thing to promote.
So, yeah, we'll talk to Johnand we'll get to the bottom of
it's a it's a very uh, it's avery uh catholic ink thing to
promote.
So, yeah, we'll, we'll talk tojohn and we'll get to the bottom
of it.
But it was nice meeting you, bg, we'll see likewise thanks
thank you brother.
Uh, all right, let's.
Should we get jd on?
Or you want to get brock on?
Well, brock just dropped again,brock dropped again.
All right, jd, let's bring jdon.
Jd man, we've been interactingfor years, brother, what's

(02:09:27):
happening?

Speaker 28 (02:09:27):
bros, bros, so happy to be here, man.
Thank you guys for uh, forletting me share some of your
space.
I've been following yourpodcast I think better part of
two years now.
Love everything you guys do.
You're probably one of the onlyfew that I habitually listen to
, um just for fun, but also foreducational content.
I know you guys don't brandyourselves as an educational

(02:09:50):
podcast but, believe it or not,I have learned some things, so I
appreciate that yeah, we don'tbrand ourselves that way, but we
hope like we're all learning aswe go.

Speaker 1 (02:09:58):
You know, like there's definitely things that
we're all, especially throughinterviews and things like that.
So, yeah, we don't.
We just don't want anybody tomistake us for an apostolate or
a right, or missionaries orsomething like that's not what
we're doing, you know, yeah yeah, totally, totally get it.

Speaker 28 (02:10:13):
well, and the um, what was it?
The danielic mysteries, uh,podcast that you did, really,
really I I didn't reallyappreciate paul's letter to the
ephesians as much as I did afterlistening that, listening to
you, so I really do appreciateyou putting your thoughts into
that.

Speaker 3 (02:10:32):
It's one of my favorites to this day.

Speaker 28 (02:10:34):
Yeah, yeah, really do.
And it's just like I read that.
I mean I just read it againearlier this afternoon, or at
least a few chapters of it, andit just continues to blow my
mind.
So whenever I can crack openthe Bible and just get my mind
blown again, it's just it'salways a book.

Speaker 1 (02:10:51):
The book of Ephesians is Paul's Catholic ecclesiology
Right.

Speaker 28 (02:10:55):
Right, and it's one of the.
It's one of the letters wherehe's not he's.
You know, there's always the.
The modern, modern scholarswill say that well, maybe Paul
didn't write that one.
No, he did.
It's just that a lot of hisother letters are much more,
have you know, sharper elbows,because he's chewing people out

(02:11:18):
because they're doing the wrongthing, like in Corinth or
wherever, whereas in Ephesusthey kind of had their act
together a lot more, and so he'sable to like talk to them more
reasonably about things likeecclesiology.

Speaker 1 (02:11:31):
And he's also way further along after his
conversion.
He's almost near death, likehe's.
He's he's almost near.
I think he's a Roman prisonerat the time and he's probably
got a lot of time in solitude,in prayer, and he's just
reflecting on the Old Testament,right, and he's like he's in

(02:11:51):
this phase where he's beingcaught up to the third heaven
and he's like, yeah, holy.

Speaker 7 (02:11:56):
I don't know if I want to be in my body or out of
my body right now.

Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
I just know, holy cow , the things that are waiting
for us.

Speaker 28 (02:12:02):
It's an amazing book was going to get me into my
first question, so I wrote out acouple things, so I want to um
not waste time.
So, um, question 1a and 1bwhat's your favorite book on
typology, if you have one, andwhat are your thoughts on
holzhauer's epochs and if youhave a recommendation for for

(02:12:25):
that?

Speaker 1 (02:12:27):
okay, uh, question one.
Um, oh, man, you know because Iwould?
I would recommend a brand petribook, but now that I saw his
new dot, his new uh series on onthe, on the, on the jewish
roots of the novus ordo, whichis what it probably is you know
I have his introduction to theold testament with uh john

(02:12:48):
bergsman.

Speaker 28 (02:12:48):
i've've read through the first hundred pages.
It's really good Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:12:56):
Jewish Roots of the Eucharist is amazing.
What was the?

Speaker 28 (02:13:03):
Jewish Roots of Mary .
Jewish Roots of the Papacy.

Speaker 1 (02:13:06):
Yeah, no, it wasn't one of those.
Oh man, which one was it?
Man I forgot.
Yeah, no, it wasn't one ofthose, it was oh man.
Which one was it?
Um man, I I forgot.

Speaker 3 (02:13:16):
oh man, I um for me, mosley's books for technology
are amazing.
Yes, okay for sure what is itthe cross to the or?

Speaker 1 (02:13:23):
the crucifixion to creation.
Yes, crucifixion to creation.
Father maudsley's book um man,I'll tell you like I really you
guys, really, if you go, if yougo to the saint paul center, um
scott hans site, he had a like20 years ago he did a series of

(02:13:46):
lectures to priests and they'rehard to find on the website but
you can still find them andthat's like where he, he, he
like he goes through every bookhe goes through.
He goes through, uh, um, hegoes through all of Paul's
letters, but then he goesthrough the gospel of Matthew
and then he gets to this part inthe gospel of Matthew where he

(02:14:08):
discusses the sign of Jonah.
And it will blow your freakingmind when he discusses the sign
of Jonah.
So I mean, I was always like amore of an audio guy because I
was constantly in my car, sothat was.
That was where I got like my.
My real thorough understandingof biblical typology was
listening to old Scott Hahntalks and stuff.

Speaker 28 (02:14:28):
Ok, All right, cool and wait, wait, wait.
Biblical typology was listeningto old scott hahn talks and
stuff.
Okay, all right, cool and umwait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (02:14:32):
Kevin james is catholic no no way, james.
What no way?

Speaker 3 (02:14:38):
all right, go ahead next you're gonna tell me scott
hahn converted or something.

Speaker 28 (02:14:42):
Yeah, breaking news breaking news to me.
First I heard it um whole soursapoc.
So where do you any bookrecommendations?
For that and where do you thinkwe are?

Speaker 1 (02:14:52):
we have been debating doing a show on this for about
a year.

Speaker 3 (02:14:57):
The problem is the only real like book on it is
holes.
How is holes, how does work?
And it's uh, yeah, one it'shard to find too.
It's like a translation fromgerman from 100 years ago.
It's like it's not going to beeasy to read, um, but uh, I mean

(02:15:17):
, I think, I think we're at theend of.
Would it be the fifth?
Yeah, end of the sixth that's.

Speaker 1 (02:15:23):
That's where I think we are yeah, also wait, wait,
never under, never underestimatehow valuable uh, steve
cunningham's site, true, yeah,like um census fidelium if you
look up.
Um what the heck?

Speaker 3 (02:15:41):
he's got an app now too, if you guys don't want to
go to youtube.
There is a census fidelium app,and he did ask me to to mention
it once.
So here we go.
Steve, there you go bud, no.

Speaker 1 (02:15:53):
So, um, which priest was it?
Uh, shoot, he did a wholeseries on like he does it.
He did it every year when hewould come up on the end of the
liturgical year and he would dothe end of the world like it
would be right before advent.
And he, he went throughCornelius Alapidae's translation

(02:16:15):
of the apocalypse and it ismind-blowing If you guys could
find that.

Speaker 3 (02:16:21):
Did he say Father Wolf, Father Wolf?

Speaker 1 (02:16:24):
yes, father Philip Wolf.

Speaker 28 (02:16:26):
So Father Philip Wolf.

Speaker 1 (02:16:27):
Translation of the apocalypse so father philip wolf
translation of the apocalypse?
He, no, it's, it's, he does.
He did a series on corneliusalapide, who's I think he's like
11th century, so he's not evena church father, but he does a
commentary on the apocalypse andhe talks about like the stars
falling from heaven and the keysopening the abyss.

(02:16:48):
It is so unbelievable, like I.
I remember there was a periodwhere I like, especially if you
follow the liturgical calendar,like as you're coming because
we're going to be coming up onit soon Once you get to the end
of October, if you've passed thefeast of Christ the King, if
you just spend that time fromNovember 1st, like from the
feast of all souls until Advent,just listening to those Father

(02:17:12):
Wolf homilies on the end of theworld, I assure you you will.
And then he also did a wholeseries on.
It was a 14-part series on.
There were Marian apparitionsin Italy.
I forgot which ones they were.
If anybody remembers that, youguys will remind me.
I'm sure in Italy I forgotwhich ones they were.

Speaker 28 (02:17:30):
If anybody remembers that, you guys will remind me,
I'm sure.
Speaking of Marian apparitions,that takes me to another topic.
If I can ask another question,are you guys familiar with the
Marian apparitions in Ecuador,our Lady of the Good Event, or
commonly called Our Lady of GoodSuccess?
There's multiple stories onthat.

(02:17:51):
I know that the one that's beenverified was verified, I think,
in like 1611.
And that had to do with initialapparitions of the Blessed
Virgin Mary to this nun and thenit had to do with, like, the
painting and the building of thestatue and stuff and the
sanctuary.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
That's one that says uh, rome will become the seat of
the antichrist is that Ithought that was la salette, but
oh okay, maybe that's lasalette, yeah I the one.

Speaker 28 (02:18:20):
But what's really interesting and I'm not sure if
this is substantiated or not, soI think there's a little
controversy on this one.
I mean there's controversy onother ones too that's it.
Robert got it, but this versionof revelation this, yeah, this
one uh stated that um, a pope inthe 19th century would be

(02:18:40):
responsible for dogmatizing theuh dogma of the of her
immaculate conception and thenalso of papal infallibility as
well, and that happened in theearly 1600s, and then obviously
that happened 250 years later orwhatever.
So I wasn't sure if you guyswere aware of that or not.

Speaker 3 (02:19:01):
In addition, that same apparition predicted the
assassination of Gabriel GarciaMoreno in.

Speaker 28 (02:19:08):
Ecuador, yeah, by the Freemasons.

Speaker 3 (02:19:10):
By the Freemasons, assisted by the US.
I did not know that, yeah theassassin, after the
assassination, ran to the USEmbassy.

Speaker 28 (02:19:25):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:19:25):
Yeah, so we've been assassinating.

Speaker 28 (02:19:28):
Do you remember what year that was?
I'll look it up real quick.
Okay, because this isinteresting.
I'm like so I'm on this fixright now Like the 20th century
was like a mess.
1875.
That would make sense.
Okay, that makes sense, becausethe diplomatic relations
between the Vatican and the USwere broken, I think in 1869,

(02:19:54):
1870, like right when theItalian Peninsula was being
reunified.

Speaker 3 (02:20:00):
It happened after the Civil War 1870 would have been
when Garibaldi finally capturedRome.

Speaker 28 (02:20:07):
So yeah, it would have been around there and they
were all, and so Lincoln hatedlike, lincoln did not like Pius
IX, and I think the feeling wasbasically mutual, yeah, to the
point where Lincoln was tryingto get Garibaldi involved in the
Civil War and Pius IX was, youknow, being somewhat nice to
Jefferson Davis and all thatstuff.

(02:20:29):
But what a lot of people don'tdon't necessarily know is that
there were uh people who weretied to John Wilkes Booth, who
were Catholics and um, there wasa suppose that an unproven
conspiracy that multiple peoplewere involved in the Lincoln
assassination.
I think it ended up beingproven like it was.

(02:20:51):
It was debunked um, but itcreated a big issue with uh the
diplomatic relations between thevatican and the us government
after uh lincoln wasassassinated, because there were
like two or three people thatwere taken prisoner um and were
executed, who were, who weredevout catholics and were
critical of Lincoln, but I don'tthink they were involved in the

(02:21:11):
assassination and it ended upleading to the Vatican not
having like cutting off formaldiplomatic relations with the US
.
The Vatican did not havediplomatic relations with the US
, I want to say from like 1869,1870, whenever that happened,
until 1983.

(02:21:32):
Yeah that sounds right.
Isn't that crazy?
That's crazy that sounds rightthere, but there was like so
much stuff like from from thebeginning of the French
Revolution is when Pius IX Well,they didn't have formal
diplomatic relations relations.

Speaker 1 (02:21:46):
it doesn't mean there weren't like that, that's
probably probably when we whenwe delegated a uh like a uh to
the roman, you know, like aformal delegate or something.

Speaker 28 (02:21:58):
Yeah, ambassador, yeah, but I think the
ambassadors were gone, like Idon't, I think that was uh.
So anyway, I just I think it'ssuch an interesting time period
in the 19th century in thechurch, especially After the
French Revolution into therevolutions of 1848, and Pius IX
kind of switches, yeah, andthen he proclaims the American.

(02:22:21):
Conception.
And then Italy goes, and thenEurope turns on the church
completely, if they hadn'talready turned on them before.
Italy goes and then, likeEurope turns on the church
completely, if they hadn'talready turned on them before,
and then, you know, the glovescome off and, like they have no
choice but to convoke Vatican I,which is only like a nine month
council, Because one of themost, because of crazy yeah
because, of the war?

Speaker 3 (02:22:43):
Yeah, because yeah, taking Rome.

Speaker 28 (02:22:45):
So what do you think so?
What do you think All right, soI want to get you canceled for
this one.
What so?
So?
What do you think so?
What do you think all right, soI want to get you canceled for
this one.
So what do you think would havehappened if they had continued
the council at, like Cyprus orwherever it was that they would
have wanted to, because theywere going to continue with the
Episcopate after they do, theBishop of Rome, with Pastor

(02:23:08):
Aeternus?
Do you think things would havebeen different?

Speaker 3 (02:23:11):
I think John Henry Newman probably would have got
them to make some.

Speaker 1 (02:23:15):
Some limitations, yeah, some limitations and
clarifications, yeah, yeah, Ithink Vatican I was kind of left
open-ended and it wasn't fullyclarified it literally was they
didn't close it until 1960.

Speaker 28 (02:23:29):
fully clarified it literally was they didn't close
it until 1960.
It literally was open.

Speaker 1 (02:23:34):
It kind of led to some of the fiasco that we're
dealing with now, some of theultramontanism we're dealing
with now.
Yeah, all right, we're going to.
I mean, it's getting late, jd,maybe we'll do a full episode on
that.
That's actually a reallyin-depth topic, that's a good
idea.

Speaker 28 (02:23:52):
I think that'd be really interesting to tackle.

Speaker 1 (02:23:54):
And we're going to get Brock on.
Brock's going to be the lastone.

Speaker 3 (02:23:57):
We had Kevin just joined.
We had someone just joined, noone else joined.
We got Brock and Kevin.
Respect, respect.

Speaker 1 (02:24:06):
Thank you, brother, all Thank you, brother, we'll
see you.
Bring Brock on.

Speaker 3 (02:24:10):
It's working so far.

Speaker 21 (02:24:11):
Hey it had to do with my browser settings,
because I've got all the audioturned off.
It just cut me out.
Anyways, thank you guys.
I love the show.
Anthony, you're my favoritebrown person.
All right, anthony, you're myfavorite brown person.

(02:24:34):
All right, okay, yeah, littlemustache, that's the best thing
he can do.
I'm also a Minnesotan.
Oh, nice, my question, myquestion.
I'm in Wyoming now, thankfully,but also not, because there's

(02:24:55):
no Latin mass.
I've got to drive like twohours and 15 minutes.
Sspx Chapel is the closestthing, but what is your favorite
hot dish?
That's it, anthony.
You have to answer Anthony.

Speaker 1 (02:25:14):
I don't think I've ever had a hot dish.
I'm sure I would enjoy a tatertot hot dish if I was seven, but
like I don't know, if Rob makesme one, I'll try it.
I guess I don't think I've everactually had one and I'm trying
to think Maybe my wife I guessI don't think I've ever actually
had one.
I'm trying to think Maybe mywife's made something.

Speaker 3 (02:25:38):
I don't know.
I'll have to ask her.
The easy answer is definitelytater tot hot dish Food for
children.
I don't like you, I reallydon't.
Tuna noodle casserole, which isa hot dish, is a close second.
That's a good Friday hot dishright there alright good, thank

(02:25:58):
you guys.
I appreciate your patience.
We appreciate you brother.

Speaker 1 (02:26:03):
Kevin, you are closing out the show, kevin
alright, glad I made it.

Speaker 13 (02:26:08):
Thanks guys.
Big fan of the show yeah, thankyou.
I'd say you're my secondfavorite brown person.
My wife goes first, so yourwife goes first.
All right, I'll take it no, uhquestion for you guys.
So thinking about I've got fourboys and a girl thinking about
jobs for them growing up.
You know, anthony, you comefrom a trade background.

(02:26:30):
Any recommendations on tradesto think?

Speaker 1 (02:26:34):
about.
I can tell you what I have,what I'm doing, my, my
daughter's uh just enrolled inesthetician school and, um,
thankfully my, my wife's fatheris paying for it, so I don't
even have to worry about that.
I'm grateful.
My son is going for welding andthen he wants to.
He wants to get into likeaeronautics welding.

(02:26:55):
So he wants to like get, getcertified and then continue the
certification and he wants tocontinue on with it.
I don't know if that's going tobe his career.
I think that it's a goodopportunity for him to get into
like into some kind of a tradeand then maybe he'll meet
somebody else and I'm hoping hehas like an entrepreneurial
spirit and you never know wherethis thing goes and maybe

(02:27:17):
there's some something he couldhelp us with down the road if
this thing ever goes anywhere,or something like that.
But, um, and then my youngestdaughter is going to go.
There's a sonogram technicianprogram that she's already at 15
.
She knows that's.

Speaker 3 (02:27:30):
That's what she wants to go for, you know um, one of
my prior jobs was doingaccounting for a plumbing and
heating company and, uh, thoseguys, man, they made bank.
Um, now, your average, likeentry level, like hvac
technician, I don't know.
You know, I I don't know howthat's going to do in the future

(02:27:53):
, but the area I'm in now wedon't have enough plumbers,
electricians, things like that.
So I think trades like that arealways going to be necessary
and useful and you can reallyget a job anywhere in the US,

(02:28:15):
and I think they're going toonly be more needed as so many
plumbers and electricians andstuff now are older.

Speaker 1 (02:28:27):
I'll say this I have three brothers that are all
paying their wife's studentloans and none of their wives
work.
That's all I know.
Like that's the, and I had thisreal like obligation to not
saddle the, the man my daughtermarries, with the debt of her
just wanting to go to school.

(02:28:48):
And then I cause, I know allthese women.
They think they want to go andbe the career girl until they
get pregnant.
And as soon as these girls getpregnant, they want to stay home
.
So I I figured, let me try togear my daughters towards
something where, if they do haveto help their husband, they can
do it from home.
Like that's, that's.
I think that's what us, asfathers with daughters, have to
do.
We have to try to help ourdaughters find something where

(02:29:11):
they can stay home with theirkids.
If maybe they can make $200 aweek, $300 a week, to assist
their husband, that'll be a helpfor him.
They don't have to go and putthemselves out in the workforce
where there's men hitting onthem and things like that.
I think an office environmentis horrible for a woman that's
married to be in yeah, it's fair.

Speaker 13 (02:29:35):
So quick follow-up.
Any uh plans on going on thequite frankly?

Speaker 1 (02:29:39):
show I actually did.
Yeah, I spoke with him um timgordon, like because he because
me and him have tim gordon, haveme and him have tim gordon in
common, and Keto Mandy hadrecommended me to him, so he
lives in Westchester, we DM eachother.
He was like maybe you just comeon one night and I, you know, I

(02:30:00):
told him, maybe on like aThursday or Friday night after
work or or something like that,I'll just shoot up there, we'll
do a show together and then I'll.
It'll have to be a friday nightbecause there's no way I could
do it on a weeknight.
So yeah, but yeah, hopefully Iwould like to go on with a good
dude yeah, I just.

Speaker 13 (02:30:14):
I just found out about him through when I think
tim was on I don't know a couplemonths back.

Speaker 1 (02:30:17):
Yeah, so yeah he's a good good dude, we said we'll
talk growing up new york, likejust just discuss that, because
he's there yeah, he's my olderbrother's.
I mean, I've told a lot of warstories from my childhood on
this show already.
That's right.
We appreciate all you guys, man.
Thank you so much foreverybody's time.
Kevin.
It was nice meeting you, man.

(02:30:39):
Thank you, yeah, dude, Ithought this was fun tonight.
I'm not going to say we do itweekly.

Speaker 3 (02:30:45):
No, not at two and a half hours anyways.

Speaker 1 (02:30:47):
No, it's not going to be a weekly thing, but I did
think it was fun for a change upright.
We didn't have to do much prepwork and I think everybody did
enjoy coming.
Look, you're always going toget lulls where somebody asks a
boring question and you guys gotto just kind of sit through it.
But I think it's.

(02:31:09):
I thought it was fun, like Ithought it was cool to get to
meet people and people actuallyasked like legit yeah, it went
way better than I thought yeah,I was worried.
You know, even the set days,even uh, john from an omen proof
, like all of them were likevery cool, like nobody like came
on to try and roast us oranything like that.
It was like it was.
It was really good.
Now, if we did it once a month,maybe we'll get some

(02:31:31):
Protestants in that actuallyhave some real questions.
I mean, it's not, we're notgoing to do Catholic answers
live.
Like the theology stuff isreally not my wheelhouse.
Like I, I feel comfortableanswering some questions, but
like I, I also don't want tooverstep my bounds.
I, I, I, I've, I've, I'mthinking like more relationships
.
So like, if you, if you haven'tlooked, some people I'm I

(02:31:53):
thought we were going to getmore like hey, you know I'm
married.
My mother-in-law is kind ofoverstepping her bounds here.
How do you think I can handlethis situation?
Something like that.
You know that's what I wasthinking we were going to get
and it wound up just all beingyoung guys and a couple of women
that called in, really justseeking like how to be good dads

(02:32:13):
it was you know, and I think Ilike that.
Yeah, me too, me too, becauseit's stuff that we can actually
offer some insight in I have.
My kids are older, so I could.
The question of what we wouldhave done differently was really
good, like what you know.
It made me think about that alot and I'll tell you right now
my one of my biggest regrets isnot homeschooling my kids.
So if you guys are starting offin that space, do everything

(02:32:38):
you can to keep your kids out ofpublic school.
It's a hellhole, it's a rock.
I had a priest yell at me onetime for putting my kids, for
having my kids, in public schoolI believe so yeah, um, and you
guys, you know, we, compliment.

Speaker 3 (02:32:51):
We.
We compliment people beingrespectful, and this is what
they towers in the comments.

Speaker 1 (02:32:57):
It's unbelievable.
I I I just hope you guys don'tscare off newbies with this
stuff, because I don't care,it's not offending me.
But, like you, get a new personin the comments like what the
hell is going on in this chatover here?
But, um, this was fun, man.
Uh, we have michael hitchbornon thursday.
Uh, we're gonna.
Oh, man, I don't even that's oh, that's, that's gross.

(02:33:18):
I know we'll do some otherstuff with michael too.
We're not gonna just do that.
Um, uh, did you guys know thatchris interviewed ha Haley Luya
tonight?
Go check out, chris, chris,chris.
I ended last night's show withyou.
I'm not doing it tonight.
I'm going to leave you be.

(02:33:39):
I'm just teasing you.
Alright, guys, we will be backon Thursday.
And no, who's called you?
Who called you boring the Roman?
I don't think you were boringat all, dude.
I think we got to actually getyou on when we do a Blackville
episode, roman.
Yeah, maybe I'll get like Bobbyand Roman on and we'll just

(02:34:03):
make Rob sit through it.
He'll just have to sufferthrough it.
Oh, molly has another womanmuted.

Speaker 3 (02:34:11):
Yeah, I had a mutant blocker too, haley is just too
much.

Speaker 1 (02:34:21):
She's just too much.
Two feds and an Italian Allright, we are going to wrap this
one up, man.
This was a really, really,really fun show man.

Speaker 3 (02:34:29):
It was an interesting one to come back to.

Speaker 1 (02:34:32):
Yeah, honestly, wasn't it?
It was like you guys got a lotof rob talking tonight, which
was cool.
It wasn't just me rambling thewhole time.
I thought it was fun.
Um, we'll do these once a month.
If you guys did not get tocomment, the cheapest way to do
that would be through youtubememberships.
It's only three bucks becauseit looks like we have so many

(02:34:52):
people just in those, but maybenext time it won't be locals and
members, so we're always goingto offer it to them first,
because they support us.

Speaker 3 (02:34:59):
And who knows, this might be a.
This might be a show that isexclusive on the the new.

Speaker 1 (02:35:07):
Yeah.
On the new place on the newthing that's coming.
The new thing we can't announceyet, but it is coming.
Take us out, Rob.

(02:35:45):
Thank you.

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