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June 4, 2025 63 mins

In this follow-up to last week’s powerful conversation, Kate and Amanda return with fresh reflections, deeper insights, and new revelations that have surfaced since their viral response to Aubrey Marcus' "Radical Monogamy" episode.

They explore how this conversation has become a catalyst for collective awakening—sparking global discussions around spiritual manipulation, gaslighting, narcissistic dynamics, and the performative nature of influencer culture.

With sincerity and grounded awareness, they unpack:

  • The subtle ways we override our gut instincts and how to reclaim our sovereignty.
  • The rise and fall of spiritual “leaders” built on egoic foundations.
  • How discernment is no longer optional—it's essential.
  • The deeper lessons behind the growing exposure of false light in the wellness and spiritual space.
  • Why honoring our “no” is a sacred act of self-respect.

This isn’t just commentary—it’s a mirror into the evolving consciousness of our time. If you’ve ever questioned the integrity of those you once looked up to, this episode will validate your knowing and invite you into deeper self-trust.

Takeaways:

  • Discernment is spiritual self-defense. Learning to trust your gut is vital in a world of spiritual distortion.
  • Not all ‘truth’ is truth. Just because something is framed as spiritual doesn’t mean it’s rooted in integrity.
  • You can’t transcend your ‘no.’ Your intuition, boundaries, and discomfort are sacred guides—not flaws to override.
  • False light is crumbling. We’re witnessing the unraveling of ego-driven leadership in the spiritual world.
  • Influencer culture often performs authenticity. The curated image rarely reflects the deeper reality.
  • Pedestals distort power. When we put others above us, we diminish our own inner knowing.
  • Spiritual awakening is gritty, not glamorous. True growth happens in the mundane, the messy, and the honest.
  • Manipulation can wear a gentle face. Even loving tones can mask subtle coercion and ego agendas.
  • Sacred tools require sacred care. Psychedelics and plant medicine need reverence, not recklessness.
  • This conversation is part of the collective shift. The more we speak up, the more we anchor light into dark spaces.
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