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April 5, 2024 45 mins

Laugh along with me, Kristin LaVanway, as I sit down with the quick-witted triplet Leigh Cummings, who flawlessly combines stand-up comedy with savvy travel hacks. Leigh spills the beans on her love affair with Trusted Housesitter, letting us in on the secret to her laugh-packed, globe-trotting lifestyle. As we swap tales from the road and the stage, you're in for a treat with behind-the-scenes insights into the life of a comic, the dedication it demands, and a heartwarming anecdote about a home investment in Ahwatukee that proved its worth over the years.

We reminisce about our favorite jokes and the unpredictable nature of performing live. From the lasting impact of Leigh's go-to Oompa Loompa gag (keep those Willy Wonka remakes coming!!)  to Leigh's candid recount of her first stand-up success and the humbling art of flopping on stage, we explore the emotional spectrum of making people laugh. And it’s not just the stage that holds our affection; we share our most cherished spaces for crafting jokes, from cozy nooks at home to the venues where our punchlines first landed, weaving a narrative of the places that have left an indelible mark on our comedic journeys.

Wrapping up with more than just chuckles, we delve into the real estate realm, discussing random topics like squatter rights, title fraud, hot places to buy land (no pun intended) and the water availability critical to Arizona's property development.  Fear not, the levity returns as we circle back to the perks of pet sitting, revealing how it can enrich the lives of those bitten by the travel bug. So, if you're itching for both advice and amusement, tune in to 'Arizona Laughs and Listings' for a delightful blend of real estate wisdom and the lighter side of life.

You can follow Leigh Cummings at:
FACEBOOK: LeighCummingsLaughs
INSTAGRAM: leighcummings_comedy

AND if you'd like to join the world of globe-trotting pet-sitters check out this site for pet lovers offering in-home pet care for a free place to stay. Use this link to join with 25% off. https://www.trustedhousesitters.com/refer/RAF82993/?utm_medium=refer-a-friend&utm_campaign=refer-a-friend&utm_source=app_native_share

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to Arizona Laughs and Listings, the
podcast where fun, funny folksget together and talk about real
estate and comedy, twocompletely unrelated topics that
go surprisingly well together.
I'm your host, kristen LeVanway, a real estate agent here in
the Phoenix metro area for 19years, as well as a local

(00:23):
stand-up comedian.
My guest today is not only avery funny comedian, but she has
cracked the code on cheaptravel and I can't wait to hear
how she does it.
I'm super excited to welcomeLeigh Cummings.
Yes, it's Leigh Cummings, it'sreally her.
Hi, little Leigh, hi there.
Welcome's really her.

(00:43):
Hi, loli, hi there.
Welcome to my podcast.
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's funny that I'm having these great conversations
with my comedy friends.
But I've had to do it this waybecause it's so hard to pin
everybody down.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Very true, and I am not in town a lot, so glad we
made this happen.
Tell us a little bit about that.
Where, where is it that you'regoing, lee Cummings?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
okay.
So I do stand-up comedy.
I have a day job, like we alldo, but I throw in a little
piece because I'm single, nevermarried and no kids.
Why would I want to sit inPhoenix Arizona all all the time
?
So I found a way to travel forcheap, so I pet sit and you're
like, okay, like Rover.
No, no, no, no, we don't goRover, we do.

(01:32):
It's called trusted housesitter and it's like dating
profiles for pet sitters.
So they post their house andtry to sell their house, like
they try to make it seem fancyand clean and like their pets
are so easy to take care of.
And then I have a profile toowith reviews and I just go all
around the all over the place.
So we can get into all of that.

(01:53):
But that's what I do.
So that cause lodging is thebiggest expense when you travel.
Let's make it free.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yes, that's cool.
So they're actually sellingtheir pet to you Like please
come and watch my dog.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yes, I didn't get paid, so I picked the nicest
house, the easiest pets, thebest location.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
That sounds amazing.
Okay, we'll get into that morelater.
What else?
What else does, what else does?
Does no one know about leecummings that we should know
about?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
oh my gosh, there's probably so much, but what am I
willing to share?
No, um, exactly.
No, I've been doing I thinkwe're at 11 years right now, and
it's funny.
I submitted my profile to oneof the local comedy clubs to
update my profile my bio, that'sthe right word and it said I've
been doing comedy for over adecade.

(02:48):
Am I that good?
No, but it changed the facts.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
But are you having fun?
I mean, that's really the mostimportant question, if you ask
me.
I love to perform.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
No, don't get me wrong, I love to be on stage, I
love to perform, I love you know.
We all say we were there tomake other people laugh and
forget about their problems fora short time, but there's a lot
that comes with it, as we know.
So, the positive love it, loveperforming, but there's a lot
that comes with it.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
It does.
Yes, it's actually work.
I mean, you don't have to work,but you will suck if you do not
work at it.
That is evident at any open mic.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Wait, you say that those are the ones that are like
working it right, they'retrying.
They're the ones that's true.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
But you can tell when people are going to a mic and
they're working on new materialand maybe it's not that funny,
but you can see you.
You it will be.
But the ones that just show upand they just like you-bomb,
f-bomb.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You know, those are the ones that you're like, okay
so you know, I think there aredifferent type of people that go
to open mics, those that arelooking to perfect a craft, make
their jokes strong, and thosethat are using it to just have
the opportunity to say the mostvile things to whoever will
listen.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
And I get the social side of it because it is fun and
they're fun people.
So there's that, you know.
I mean you're getting somethingout of it.
I guess that's good, but it's arange.
Let's just say that it's arange.
It's a range.
Well, I'm so glad you're here.

(04:29):
We have like a fun littleformat that I've been doing.
So our first segment I like tocall your firsts, and so we're
going to.
We're going to.
I'm going to ask you about yourfirst house and your first
comedy show, and you can startwhichever way you like.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay.
So first house I was like ontrack with life.
Like you know, graduated highschool on the top of my class,
went to college at NAU withhonors.
Next step was buy a house.
Right when you graduate college, buy a house.
My sister and I I'm a triplet,by the way so one of my triplet
sisters and I, at 24 years old,we had like been in the work

(05:01):
market for a few years decidedto buy a house in 2001.
So, January 2001, we bought ahouse in Ahwatukee old Ahwatukee
and with the thought that, youknow, we'd lived there for like
five years as an investment andthen we'd like go our separate
ways, Someone would get married.
23 years later, we're still inthe house together Okay, the

(05:22):
same house.
Years later, we're still in thehouse together okay, the same
house.
But it has appreciated.
So there's, I would hope soafter 23 years?
yes, it has.
But it was a nightmare.
So we went to this.
We were just out driving byourselves, we didn't have a
realtor.
We pulled up to this home therethe realtor was inside.
He was just leaving.
So he showed us the house andwe were like we'll take it that
day.

(05:43):
And he's like, uh, you don'thave a realtor.
He opened the phone bookbecause it was a long time ago
and he said pick anyone.
I'm sure anyone you call willbe willing to represent you.
We trust you.
So he represented both of us.
In long story short, he can, Isay, dicked us over a little bit
, but it was a hard time you cantotally say that it over a

(06:03):
little bit, but it was.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
You can totally say that it's a very good, it's very
timely, which we'll we'll talkabout later, yeah.
I mean he tried, so you werebasically unrepresented.
You seem like a decent dude.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, you, you guys no, no, in the end it all worked
out, but did it, yeah it washard at the time.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
What was the hardest part of it?
Like, where do you think thathe could have done a better job
or things would have gone betterhad you had your own agent?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
he at one point threatened to like just drop the
whole deal and like sue usbecause he want they wanted to
stay, they wanted to close onthe house, but they wanted to
stay for like another two orthree weeks to like get their
stuff out.
And so now at this point we'relike reaching out to other
realtors, like is this normal,is this okay?
Like we would technically beliable for anything that
happened in the house over thosetwo weeks, and blah, blah, blah

(07:05):
, and we were like no, we're notdoing this Once.
Once it closes, we want you out.
And he's like I'm going to sueyou guys.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Wow, and you're just like 24 year old buying your
first house.
You're like, come on, man, benice.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Wow, that's it all worked out.
But lessons learned get arealtor you trust.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
It does help Because that does come up that whole
occupancy possession deal andit's possible to work those
deals out no-transcript thing,like because all their stuff was

(07:47):
still in the house.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Obviously they lived in the house up until it closed.
So like we didn't even know ifthere were holes in the walls or
big holes in the floor underthe couch or I mean just things
we didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
So you guys didn't do it like a home inspection and
we did that stuff was still init oh man, that sounds horrible.
That sounds horrible.
Get it.
Yes, it's a very good lesson ofwhat happens you recommended
the home inspector oh so it'shis guy.
We couldn't win to lose, soright and yeah, full, I take

(08:25):
full responsibility for beingstupid yeah, well, the first
one's the hardest, you know, but, um, but obviously that's
probably a first and last,because at this point I mean 23
years.
You might as well just stay notleaving, I'm not leaving.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, there was a tiktok someone did that said if
you were to leave with theinterest rates what they were
then and try to buy somethinglike $100,000 more than what
your home is worth, you wouldstill be paying almost double
the actual mortgage payment.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, if you bought your house 23 years ago and I'm
not going to be nosy, but I meanyour payment must be, let's
just say, quite affordable.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Affordable?
Yes, I would think so.
One bedroom apartment, now forsure For a three bedroom, if
you're lucky, if you're luckyit's crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, so that was your first house and maybe last.
Yeah, what about your firstcomedy show?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Okay, so 11 years ago I decided the short version is
this how I got into comedy.
I'll just give that quick story.
I'd gone on this camp out itwas a girl guy camp out from
like a church activity, and weget out of the car with this
group of girls.
Everyone runs up and they werelike oh, larissa, you're so
beautiful and they're like Stacy, you're so spiritual.

(09:38):
And I stood there like peoplelike I was non-existent to these
people and I.
So I stopped and I wasnon-existent to these people and
I.
So I stopped and I was likewhat am I?
And I go well, you're funny, Ibetter do something with this.
So I had been going to the Tempeimprov every Thursday night
because I had a t-shirt and yougot on free on Thursdays If you
were attempting to have t-shirtand I'm cheap, so I would get my

(09:59):
half order of nacho.
Where am I?
Tem show, wear my Tempe Improvt-shirt.
And one day on the table itsaid a flyer do you think you're
funny?
And I was like, yes.
So I took comedy school withcomedyschoolscom.
That's how.
That was my first time doingcomedy.
So I had done the intro session, I did the advanced course
which comes with a performance,and it was at Tempe Center for

(10:20):
the Arts and it was on there.
They're still doing it there,they're still doing it at Tempe
Center for the Arts and it wason there.
They're still doing it there.
Yep, they're still doing it atTempe Center of the Arts, but it
wasn't in the lakeside, so itwas in the bigger stage room.
So it's this huge stage withlike theater seating, and it was
that was my first time doingstand up.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Wow, how did it feel to get up on the stage the first
time.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
it was a big stage big stage and I swear, swear, I
almost backed out, like it waslike that week of I was like I
can't do this, I'm not, I'm notdoing this, like I'm not ready,
I can't do this, no one's gonnalaugh.
But you invite your friends andeveryone there is there for
newbies.
So it all worked out, it allworked out.
But yeah, it was.
I literally was like I'm notdoing this, I'm not going out

(11:01):
there not doing it, it Not doingit.
But you got laughs, of course.
I've been telling that sameOompa Loompa joke for a decade.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
The Oompa Loompa joke was one of your originals.
Oh, it's a classic.
I mean I've added in like um,they keep remaking that movie,
so it will continue to berelevant.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think they've had at least two major motion
additional movies of williewalker since then.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
They'll just it'll just keep renewing that joke for
you.
Thanks, guys, that's awesome.
So you did the first and youwere terrified.
So did you come off the stageand go, or did you come up going
?
Oh no, you, I mean, you knowyou come off the stage and go?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
or did you come up going?
Oh no, I mean, you know youcome off the stage and, like
it's a high, People laugh,People had a good time and
you're like this feels amazing.
I want to chase this feeling,yes.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yes, it's true, of course.
Then you go out again and youcause you ever.
It seems like everybody startsoff and you and you start off
well, otherwise you don't do itagain, true.
And then you go out and youknow, maybe you try some new
jokes or whatever, and and itseems like everybody has a lull
then where you're just bombingevery single time.

(12:19):
But I think it's kind of partof the deal.
You have to learn how to bombso that you can get better.
Am I, is that?
Do you think I'm just makingthat up?
Oh no, you're right, you'reright, it is necessary.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
But golly how I'm like it.
But it blows my mind.
I could do the same set as twonights earlier and completely
bomb that.
People were going wild for twonights earlier.
Like the exact same set, it'sjust.
It's like hot and cold.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
It's weird.
But as soon as you figure thatout, then you stop taking it
personally, I think.
I mean it still sucks, butyou're like, okay, I'll just do
it again tomorrow, it'll be fine.
I'll do it again tomorrow, yeah, and I think after a while you
get jokes that you know aregoing to mostly land.
So then you just figure, atleast people, they just need to

(13:10):
drink more or something, theyjust they're just a bunch of wet
blankets.
Come on, that's a funny joke.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
That we'll throw this in.
Doing clean shows makes itharder.
Where they're not drunk,they're not super spicy, like
you have to like edit things inyour head.
And yeah, sometimes doing likethe clean, clean shows gives me
the most anxiety.
Like I don't curse that much,it's not like a big deal to me.
That's not my, but sometimesyou're just like the

(13:38):
restrictions.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yes, if you're worried, if I you know that was
an innuendo, but was it too much?
Was it too there, or yeah?
So I do the Jared's open micSaturday's clean Thursday.
We call it the dirty mic.
I like to call it theexpressive mic because you don't
have to swear but you can ifyou want to, if you want to.

(14:01):
And so one of the youngercomedians came up and he's very,
very funny, but he's very, veryspicy.
And he was telling this dirtyjoke and I look over and this
little kid had walked into theroom.
I was like, oh, and he's thecomedian.
Just like oh, I had to go outand find the kid's mom and I

(14:22):
said, are you here with somebody?
And the kid's like it's okay,they don't mind.
I was like, oh, I think they do.
I had to go get his mom.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Wait, what if the mom said he's fine, I'm like you
get out of there, you can't belistening to that Coffee shop.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
It was not okay.
It was not okay but it wasfunny.
But it it did.
It threw him off.
After that I said just startall over.
Just, we're just gonna reset itto zero.
You just start all againbecause it freaked him out.
It's funny, all right.
So first house, first comedyshow, and obviously you've done

(15:02):
many comedy shows since then,over 11 years yeah, still
enjoying it.
Uh, so that that brings us toour next segment, which I like
to call your favorite rooms.
So I would love to hear whatyour favorite room to perform is
, and your favorite room in yourhouse, but maybe not

(15:23):
necessarily your house, could besomeone, be someone else's
house.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Okay, I didn't know what his favorite room to
perform in.
Let me think about thatquestion.
Where's my favorite place?
I like to perform?
What is yours?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
I need a hint, let me think Well, obviously I like
Jared's because I'm all the time.
Stir Crazy was very fun.
The Grill 61.
I've been there a few times andevery time the audience is very
fun.
They are there for a good timeand it's not really a comedy

(15:57):
club, it's a golf courseclubhouse in a 55 plus community
.
But those guys are there forthey're lively and that's really
fun when it's a really engagedaudience.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think I'm gonna agree with you that Grill 61,
that was my third time there,and the first two and the third
I mean they all were great.
But like after I think thesecond time I performed there,
some of these men were like I'mtaking you home and it was just
so fun, like I'm taking you homeand it was just so fun, like in
a fun way.
They were like, yeah, and theywere like kind of being flirty.
But you're right, those peoplewere there, they paid money to

(16:31):
watch comedy, they wanted todrink and they were having a
good time.
No restrictions on what wecould say.
We could say anything.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
It was beautiful and you know, sometimes in a club or
especially if it's a bar show,it's a kind of a negative vibe
from the audience.
There's some people that justput out negative energy and I've
never seen that there.
It's all positive, even some ofthe people that maybe don't get
the jokes.
It's just fun.
No one's going to heckle you.

(17:04):
It's not really heckling, it'smore like we're having fun and
we want to be part of theconversation.
It's a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
But I think you're right, because most of those
people all know each other, like.
So it's like a room full of Idon't know how many people were
there 60 people that all kind ofknow each other and are there
for the same purpose having agood time with the intent to
have a good time with each other.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
So yeah, there's something beautiful there,
that's true because you knowsometimes a joke or a comedian
will talk to a non you knowyou're just trying to work in
the crowd a little bit or a jokelands with somebody and they
maybe know that person and sothat's even part of it.
Like normally in a comedy clubyou don't know the person who
the comedian is making fun of,their, their shirt or whatever

(17:46):
you know.
But in that room they doprobably.
And they're probably going totalk about it later, like the
next day on the golf course.
That was so funny when he saidthat to you.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yes, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
Good room.
Thanks, chris, it is.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's a good room.
Okay, what about the house room?
I do want to hear about yourfavorite room in your house, but
also the favorite room, andtell us a little bit more about
your pet sitting, like, wasthere a room in the that you're
just like?
I wish I could live hereforever.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yes, so I'll just throw out some of the pet sits
that I've done.
That have been kind of likemore fun.
I got to do two weeks in StThomas, virgin Islands, and so
they let me use their car, so Ijust had to provide airfare so I
flew there.
I got two weeks in the VirginIslands.
They let my friend come staywith me for a week and so she
would drive me around, excuse me.

(18:40):
So from a location standpointthat was amazing.
But I mean, things are soexpensive.
That was like a tiny littlehouse, it was like a one bedroom
house with a kitchen, so roomwise that's not there.
But I was just kind of giving abackground of places that I go
are usually where I can drivewithin an eight hour radius from
Phoenix Metro.
So I do a lot in Durango, santaBarbara, san Diego what

(19:04):
direction?
All beautiful places.
I like the water.
I just did two weeks in PismoBeach I'm trying to think of
like my favorite room.
It's usually outside.
Oh, carlsbad in San Diego, okay, they had the most beautiful
backyard.
It didn't see the ocean.
You can see the ocean fromthere.

(19:25):
You could see the ocean, and Idid one in Cabo from the living
room.
Wow.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
What's the name of?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
this pet sitting website again.
Yes, it's called Trusted HouseSitters.
We'll post my link so I getcredit for it.
People sign up here.
This is my link.
At least give me a free month.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh yeah, I'll definitely.
I'll put it in the descriptionwhen I post this all up.
Somebody give?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
me a free month on the website that would be.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, it sounds amazing.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
What a great idea, yeah, so I don't like to be in
Phoenix in the summertime, so Ipick places I can still, because
I work a day job, I work 100%remote.
I set up outside.
I bring my own table, my ownchair, my own monitor, like I
set up at these people's houseoutside, and that's why I go
back to Santa Barbara a lot.
These people I think I'm on myfourth or fifth time they now
invite me back whenever they goon vacation.
But it's a beautiful view, it's.

(20:12):
I'll send it to you, we'll postthe view.
You can see a little bit of thewater, but it's just trees and
the weather's amazing and I getto sit outside in the middle of
the summer Santa Barbara's nice.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I went to college there for a year and a half.
You see, santa Barbara, did youreally?
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
where the university is.
I just got a parking ticket atthe university, yes, so I went
there in 81.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I went there in 81.
I was there from 81 to 83.
That's when I moved.
Here was January of 83.
And it was.
I don't know if it's still thisway, but it was a throwback to
the seventies.
Like it was, it was like a timecapsule that I the Isla Vista,

(20:57):
where the campus is I went backand visited and it has changed
some, as everything does,especially in California,
because an outhouse is a milliondollars in Santa Barbara.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes, yes, but it was really a cool this is a $3
million home.
What we used to consider amillion dollar home was
something special, and now homeshere are a million dollars and
it's nothing special.
So it's hard to even like avalue of things because of
what's happened in the last fewyears.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
But yeah, it's true.
A million dollars just doesn'tget you very far anymore.
Doesn't get you away, it's notwhat it?
used to be no, but you know whatthat's the nice thing, though,
about.
Since you have your home and itdoesn't, you don't really care

(21:48):
how much it's worth, right, Imean, it's affordable.
You don't have to be out thereslugging it out with people
trying to get one of thesehouses.
You know the rare $500,000 or$600,000 house.
That's like the regular house.
Now, because you're good, I'mgood, I'm good.

(22:08):
I think if you can think aboutreal estate as a long game, it
really does change the game alot.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It really does change the game a lot.
But you say that we're agreeingthat, like in my mind.
Now I'm like, yes, I willalways have a place to live.
But I would say 10, 15 yearsago I felt like this home was a
what is that?
A ball and chain on my anklebecause I wanted to go and I
didn't have this pet sitting.
I wanted to just go, be free.
I wanted to go somewhere for amonth and not worry about it.

(22:37):
But I'm like, well, what do Ido with this house?
I don't want to sell.
You know, the market droppedand whatever year that was, it
was worth nothing.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Right, yeah, because this would have been around the
crash time when you were havingthis epiphany.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yes, so I was like now the house is worth nothing.
You came up with a solution.
The universe didn't.
I'm just using yes, I found agood solution.
I don't.
I still need to go likeoverseas, like I want to go
spend a month in Italy petsitting, while still keeping my
day job like or like Spain orsomewhere like make it magical.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
That?
Oh, that's just so cool.
So what does your sister stilllive there with you?
Yeah, so what does your sisterstill live there with you?
Yeah, so you don't have toworry about the house while
you're gone.
It's somebody who's taking careof it.
Yes, that's, that's like theperfect situation.
It's the best of all worlds.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Cause people ask don't you have pets?
And I was like, yes, I have acat.
And they're like, well, how doyou pet sit?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I have a roommate takes care of my cat when I'm
gone.
That's the best life ever.
So you have total freedom, justlike you wanted.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
That's all I freedom.
Like when I, totally off story,I hit a deer on one of the pet
sits in Durango and it totaledmy car, and like that loss of
freedom of being in an unknownplace.
I couldn't go anywhere.
I was in Bayfield, if you guysknow the area, so it was like 20
minutes outside of Durango.
There wasn't Uber out there,like I was stranded.

(24:07):
And that loss of freedom likeplayed with my mind, just being
like stuck and stranded.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
The ball and chain was for real.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I was like I need freedom in my life.
That's why I'm single nevermarried.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
You know, I think that's not as rare as it used to
be and I also think there'sless of a stigma about it.
You know it used to be.
I was just telling my sonyesterday I got married in the
British Virgin Islands like amillion years ago.
I'm not married anymore, butgot married in British Virgin
Islands.
And so in the marriage licenseand I was 30 when I got married
and they list you as a spinsterthat's just the term they use Of

(24:51):
a married woman I don't feellike a spinster, but you know
that's what they call you.
Don't feel like a spinster, butyou know that's what they call
you.
And and then in that timeperiod, I think if you were
married, you were not married.
And especially if you weregetting in your thirties,
forties and you're like, I don'tthink I'm going to get married,
I think there was a certainstigma to it, a social stigma,

(25:11):
but I don't think that's thecase anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I think it's loosened .
I would say it's not gone.
There is still definitely astigma in religious circles
after you hit 30 and you knowreligions that focus on family
and marriage.
Oh yeah, I definitely feel that.
Do I think that about myself?
No, but I definitely feel itfrom outside outside.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, that's true.
I think there's always somebodywho wants to judge you and make
you feel like you're whatever.
You're not meeting thestandards with anything.
It could be anything yourmarital status, your house, what
size pants you wear, whatever.
They want to pick on you forevery reason.
But I think there's moreacceptance now as well, so you

(26:00):
just got to ignore those haterjudgy people.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
They want freedom and they can't have it.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I think too, it's just a sign that if they're
judging you, it's a sign oftheir own insecurities.
So you could even just tellyourself well, I hope things go
better for you in your life,that's way too mature for me to
go after other people.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I agree, like some people you know are miserable in
their marriage, but then, like,judge you for being single.
That's a better way to put it.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
You're like they're actually just envious, they just
wish they were in the same boatyou chose wrong.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Okay, Just because I had some and I threw them back
and you decided to put a ring onit.
That's on you.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
And, what's worse too , never getting married or
marrying like four differentloser guys.
Which is the better way to go?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Which is the better way to go.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's cheaper to never get married, to get married
four times and divorce weddings.
Well, even the weddings of theweddings cost money, but the
divorce is due too right I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I mean, yes, they do, but don't women usually at
least they used to make out inthe end of some divorces?
Yeah, maybe Sometimes.
Yeah, if you throw kids in themix, that's a whole other story.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
That's true.
Yeah, I think you should justdo whatever you want.
That seems to be the best wayto go.
True For sure.
And I have heard that if peopleare insulting you, the best
response is to say to them areyou okay?
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Did that make you feel better, Like are you okay?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Really, maybe you should go talk to somebody.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yes, I am 46, never married, no kids, I know.
Are you going to be okay withthis information?
You've learned, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I hope so, I'll.
I'll pray for you, even thoughI don't ever pray for anybody.
I'll pray for you.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Since you're so close , pray for me to send me this
magical man.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
I probably won't end up marrying, but just keep him
nearby, yes yes, yes, I coulduse a boy toy, a little
something to play with, like acat, right, I mean.
A cat's much easier when youreally get down to it, I mean,
and even easier than a dog whenyou get right down to it, you
know.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh, so when I pet sit I'll say 80% of the time.
I mean I purposely choose cats,they're just easier.
Let's be real.
I want to go explore on my offtime so I don't want to be
walking your okay?
Some lady made me walk.
She had two chihuahuas.
Walk the chihuahuas, I think,like half a mile three times a
day.
I was like the legs on the dog,Like I don't think the dog

(28:53):
needs that much exercise, likeit comes back patio and we just
out of breath.
So oh funny, pet sitting likepet sitting parents.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
some of them are hilarious I bet, because I don't
want to sound, I shouldn't evenprobably say this, but I'm
going to because I'm a dogperson and I'm thinking to
myself who would hire a petsitter for a cat?
Like, can't you just leave abig bowl of food and a big bowl
of water?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
You can leave it for at least two weeks.
So I mean, like you got torefresh that food, but, yeah,
every day you put in your litter, right, you water?
Yeah, that's true, and it'sjust someone at your house.
Some people will even hire apet sitter with no pets.
Just so there's a car in thedriveway, lights go on and off,
because that is what I wanted totalk to you about these TikToks
that I'm seeing, aboutsquatters.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Well, let's move on Real estate rundown.
What is going on?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
with squatters.
What's up with that?
Oh, I don't know.
I'm watching these TikToks thatsays I don't quote me.
I thought you would know, um,someone.
If they find out you're onvacation, people break into your
house if they're there forseven days and can prove it.
Apparently they have squatterrights and like can like wait

(30:14):
for the court system to get theout.
So like don't post yourvacations online people.
And I was like wait, this is mebeing shady, not that I am, but
like think of like cruisepeople.
Like I work at Carnival Cruise,I know you're going to be gone
on a 14-day cruise and I sendbecause there's like rings of
like foreigners that like go anddo this squat into these.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I got to stop you there for a second.
You work for carnival no, no, Isaid say you did.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
No, I don't oh, okay, I was like.
You can see the talk about thatafterwards.
I love that 14 day cruise, likeyou tell you.
You tell your friends that areforeigner, foreign ring, and you
have all their information,their address, how long they're
going to be gone, blah, blah,blah, like their address, how
long they're going to be gone,blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Like it's scary.
Well, I'll tell you this.
I know every state's differentand some states it's much easier
to to squat than others.
Arizona is not one of them.
Okay, Good, You're five dayslate in your rent.
They kick you out.
It's just.
You know, there's like aprocess and it's definitely more
property owner rights here inthis state, so I would think

(31:23):
it'd be harder to do that inArizona.
You know, Arizona is a littlebit like the Wild West, still.
So you know.
So I think in Arizona I'm justsaying okay, TikTok, squatter
people, just don't even try ithere, it will not work.
It will not work, it will notwork.
Maybe, I don't know what stateswould but this is not one of

(31:44):
them, for sure, but that seemscrazy.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Don't tell people, don't post on Facebook that
you're leaving because people becrazy.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I do know that there's some concerns about
about land, that you have to becareful with land because of
these people, that there's a lotof title fraud now, where they
try to take over your propertythrough title fraud.
So the vacant land is is a highrisk one.
You got to really watch it Ifyou have vacant land.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I don't, but I will keep that note.
Where should we be buying land,like where's a good place?
If you were to be like Irecommend, just so you have a
homestead, a place to live,should everything go to crap,
where should I buy land?

Speaker 1 (32:32):
That's a good question.
So I know you know, tonopahquestion.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
So I know, uh, you know, tonopah, like if you drive
, that's something you don'tknow about me.
I'm a hot springs junkie.
Tonopah has hot springs.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Go ahead, oh then you should check it out, because
there is some major speculatinggoing on out there what's that
community is with all the solarpanels?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
It's called something .
Oh yeah, I just drove throughit.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Uh like, uh, it starts with a V something land.
Verma land, Verna land.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
So there's that.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
And then I think just up the road a bit is Bill Gates
, big like $25,000 or 25,000acre city of the future, future
home.
So there's definitely somespeculation going on out there
on the West side and the Westside and I mean I'm an East
sider, I like the East Valleyand we do have a bunch of

(33:31):
development going on going East.
So Apache junction is going tobe a hotspot.
A lot of that line's alreadybeen.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's just an Apache Junction at the end, it's true.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
All the jokes we make about Apache Junction, we might
have to pick Coolidge orsomething next, because it's
exploding, catch parts of ApacheJunction and build new houses
or something.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
How do they get around?
Oh yeah, like roughness ishappening in there.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
So, yeah, there's still the weird, you know funky
parts where you might see amansion next to a beat up mobile
home or something, but there'sa lot of development going on
out there.
We call that Junk Canyon.
I'm just kidding, nobody willsee that Junk Canyon is going to

(34:22):
be surrounded by houses.
It's going to be crazy.
And then on the west sidethere's similar.
You know we're a sprawlingcommunity because it's all flat
land and so they're just like,yeah, we'll just sprawl.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
There's no water, but just keep building.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
The whole water thing is interesting.
There's all these, all thesestories about how we're running
out of water and we're not,because the news people are
reporting okay, we're running,we only have like a hundred
years of water left, becausethey've sort of twisted all of
it.
It's really that if you'rebuilding new development, you
have to show that you canprovide water for the next
hundred years, so that we don'trun out of water.

(35:04):
And so if you're building a newcommunity out in like, say,
apache junction, where theydon't have water treatment
plants and all that kind ofstuff yet, you gotta, you gotta
build all that stuff.
So we're we in good shape withwater, isn't?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
there a community just like north of North
Scottsdale, like kind ofnortheast of oh yes Rio Verde,
which is a good example of whathappens.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yes, it was all hauled water and it was the city
of Scottsdale was providing itand we had the drought and
Scottsdale was like and we hadthe drought and Scottsdale's
like, hey man, we can't begiving you this water.
And I mean, I personally wouldnot buy a house that had hauled
water.
I do not want to rely on, likean Amazon prime delivery van

(35:53):
bringing my water to me.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I prefer it to come out of a pipe from a big old
water treatment plant.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
But there's wells and even they're okay.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I don't know it seems like there is too many
Californians coming in and notenough water for a desert.
You don't have that vibe at all.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
You know what?
I think we should keepspreading that rumor just to
keep things from getting out ofcontrol.
So yeah, it's already so out ofcontrol.
There's not very much waterleft.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Stay home.
No water, stay out.
You cannot cross over fromCalifornia Right.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
And we have scorpions and they're so rattlesn.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
We have scorpions and they're they are, and so
rattlesnakes, scorpions, 115degree heat, Like.
There's reasons you don't wantto, there's reasons I go visit
you guys.
Okay, californians Right.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yes, yeah, don't move here, but everyone does.
It's a great place to live.
I mean, let's be honest, I camehere to go to college in 1983.
And when I first moved here, Ihated it.
I was like I came from thebeach, that's where I grew up
and I was like I'm not stayinghere.
The day I graduated is the dayI'm out.
But it was maybe like what?

(37:13):
Three years later I was like Ilove it here here.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I'm never leaving so I can actually buy a home here,
I can actually settle down hereback then, back then yeah, back
then it wasn't, it would evencalifornia, wasn't you know,
outrageous, it was pricey.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
But I remember, um, my second cousins are the same
age as my mom and my one.
One of my second cousins, uh,she bought a house in San Pedro,
which is like long beach kindof area there, san Pedro, it's
South of LA and it's on a hill.
The house she bought and Iremember my mom just going her

(37:52):
house was $150,000.
Can you imagine somebody buyinga house for $150,000?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
It's like what?
$3 million now, For sure, yeah,that area.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Probably a couple mil it's on a hill.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
It's a flagstaff.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
It was a $150,000 house, so obviously it was
amazing.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
It was a house, house like at least three bedrooms, a
couple baths, like on the hillin San Pedro.
Is that by Rancho Palo Verdes?
Is that?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
nearby.
It's sort of that vicinity, butSan Pedro never gets confused
for Rancho Palos Verdes.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Which is the higher?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
end Definitely Rancho Palos Verdes.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Okay, that's what I was thinking when you said San
Pedro, and I was like thehomeless one.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
San Pedro's got some really nice areas, even though I
was afraid of San Pedro for along time, but you know.
Like rough rough neighborhoodfor a long time, but you know,
like rough, rough neighborhood,Um, so there's the harbors right
there and so it, you know, theHarbor area was kind of rough Um
, and then there was some areasthat were kind of rough Um, when
I lived there, um, there waslike gangs were starting to form

(39:12):
and things like that.
Uh, but up in the Hill that's,you know, the gangs didn't live
there.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Somehow the hill kept the gangs out.
They're smart enough now.
They now just walk up right,they're fine.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, I mean, now there's just gangs everywhere, I
think.
So you know they don'tdifferentiate, Especially in
Gilbert, when they have gangs inGilbert.
You know things have changed.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Oh my gosh, the gilbert council.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
We won't get into that but no, no, no, but uh, but
yeah, it definitely.
You definitely want to scopeout your neighborhood and, I
think, get to know yourneighbors too.
My, my house.
So I live in mesa and I don'tknow how many times I've heard
people say whatever you do,people ever told me don't move
to mesa, you know you'll getmurdered there.

(40:02):
It's like so dang.
I'm like what are you talkingabout?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
but people like make the claim.
They're like we live in eastmesa.
They're like we do not claimthe west side of mesa, or like
central west west.
That's where.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I live.
I live right in the place wherethey said you should never move
to.
It's a great neighborhood, youknow.
So it's.
You just got to check thingsout.
Look at the cars in thedriveway.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
True, and if the garage doors close, that is what
I, when I go to a neighborhood,I'm like none of these garage
doors close.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, we don't even have garages.
Most people have carports here,so everything's just here.
It is.
Here's what we have.
That is so funny.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
You're like we have all our stuff stored out here in
the carport.
Take it.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
But it's a historic neighborhood so it's kind of
just funky and you know it's gotit's a lot of personality, so
is it still a lot of?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
elderly people, plus like, like.
Do you know?
I'm saying like the originaloccupants of that area I assume
that you're talking about,whereas are people that are
still there?

Speaker 1 (41:15):
uh, yes, so my neighborhood.
It's interesting becausethere's families that are.
They have streets named afterthem, they live here in this
neighborhood and then their kidslive here as well.
Like they all just buy a housein this neighborhood, and so I
think a lot of the houses don'tever make it to the market, they
just get passed around.
So I don't know how I got solucky to live here, but it is.

(41:38):
I have noticed and I think thishappens a lot is that there's
people like you who you knowbought the house when they were
in their twenties and they'renow they're carting them out,
you know, to the end of lifekind of thing, and and then the
younger families move in, and Ithink that's kind of what's
happening here is more younger,younger families move in, and I
think that's kind of what'shappening here is more younger

(41:59):
families are moving in.
So it just transitions to a newgeneration.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I love it.
I don't think you you weren'tsaying that I'm at end of life,
right?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
No, you have like decades and decades to go before
they haul you out of there on agurney.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I never know how old people think I am because of
this this hair color thing, butlike from a voice and when I had
dark hair, people alwaysthought I was younger than I was
.
But now I think people thinkI'm like 50s, 60s, so who knows?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
yeah, it's hard to tell people's age.
Last night at the mic, one ofthe comedians made a joke about
somebody being 60 and beingalmost dead and I was like, hey,
dude, I am 63.
I am, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
There's no broken hip Like I'm 63.
I know.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
He came by afterwards and he goes.
I thought you were only 40.
I was like you're my new bestfriend, mister.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I love it.
All is forgiven, you're fine.
Was he the one that did thenasty joke with the kid in it?

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Same dude, no, no he was different, different guy.
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
How do we wrap up, girl?
Do we like?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
okay, and we're gonna now move on to what's coming up
for lee cummings.
What's coming up for leecummings okay.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
So I have a couple of shows.
Apparently now I only do likecharity shows and sporadic shows
.
So I have mother's day showcoming up at stir crazy in may.
I have a charity show in august.
I mean, these are like the goodshows and then I'm going back
to my family in santa barbara.

(43:48):
I'm not going to tell you guyswhen, because I don't want
anyone to like try to squat inmy house.
Yeah, every time they go onvacay they call me first and
I'll be like I get first dibs onyour house and your cat.
So oh, that's neat, oh, that'ssanta barbara you got to come on
my show sometime.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
I have two show.
Well, no, you're not old enough.
For who you calling old, sorry?
Not yet got a few years to go,but maybe after the summer, when
you're when you're donelollygagging over there at the
southern california beaches,living in someone's
multi-million dollar house I'llcome back to After the summer,
when you're done lollygaggingover there at the Southern
California beaches.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Living in someone's multi-million dollar house.
I'll come back to Phoenix andmy little house.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
I mean every year.
So far you've come back, so thechances are good.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
It's true, it's true, but maybe I'm going to go spend
six months.
I'm increasing it Six months inSpain.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I know that would be amazing.
That's a great way to do it andyou would actually have French
and Italian and Spanish.
What do you call a cat inSpanish?
Gato, gatos, all the gatos.
That's cool.
Well, this was great.
This was super fun.
Thank you for coming on hereyou are welcome.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
I had a great time.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Thank you for having me and I will see you around.
I hope I'll be around.
Well, thank you, lee cummings,for showing us all how we can
travel the world really cheap,as long as we like cats and dogs
.
If you want some informationabout the trusted house sitter
program, I've got someinformation in the description
below.
In the meantime, keep your eyesout for some of the coming

(45:22):
shows throughout the MetroPhoenix area.
She's really super funny.
You'll have a great time andthanks for tuning in.
We'll catch you next time onArizona Laughs and Listings.
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