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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you ever wondered what it's really like
(00:02):
to live somewhere known forextremes? You know, like the
desert.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah. People often picture, I don't know,
isolation. Maybe a landscapethat's just brown and
unchanging.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Right. But what if that picture is, well,
completely wrong? Welcome to thedeep dive. Today, we're diving
into some really interestinginsights about why people are
picking Arizona, specificallythe Scottsdale and Phoenix
areas.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah. Our source today is this pretty fascinating
YouTube video. It gives a verypersonal sort of on the ground
look at the pros and cons ofactually moving to Scottsdale.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And our goal here for you listening is to kinda peel
back the curtain on what desertliving is actually like, uncover
some things that might genuinelysurprise you.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Right. Give you a a more nuanced picture than maybe
the common ideas out there.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Exactly. Get ready to find out why so many folks are
drawn to that Arizona lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So let's start right at the top maybe. The people.
The community.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Because one of the biggest pros that jumps out from
the source material is just howeasy it seems to be to meet
people. And the friendly vibe.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
That really struck me too. I mean, I moved out here
twenty years ago, and I rememberwondering, you know, is this
place too transient? Will itlack that deep community feel?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And what did you find?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Completely the opposite, actually. Pretty
quickly, I found what I stillcall my, diverse adoptive
family, friends from literallyall over the world, all over The
US.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And what's really interesting is why the sources
point to this shared experience,the fact that almost everyone is
from somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Right. The outsider thing.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Exactly. It creates this immediate common ground and
openness. Know, I've only beenhere two years myself and that
fear you always have when youmove, am I going to make
friends? It just wasn't reallyan issue here. It gets overcome
pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So that diversity isn't just about culture. It's
about, like, shared journeysconverging. Makes it welcoming.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Does that mean connections are shallow, though?
Or do people really put downroots?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The sources definitely suggest the opposite.
Yeah. People seem very willing,almost eager to connect. So
those bonds form fast, and theyseem pretty genuine, pretty
strong.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay. That makes sense. And speaking of
surprising positives, let's talkfood because, wow, the sources
called the food scenephenomenal. A major reason to
live there.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Oh, definitely. And it's not just about having good
restaurants. It's more likePhoenix and Scottsdale are this
living food lab.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
A food lab? How so?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, because the population is so diverse, it's a
prime test market for restaurantchains.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Ah, okay. So you get to try stuff first.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Pretty much. You get access to new concepts,
different global cuisines,sometimes way before they go
mainstream.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
That's a serious perk. I mean, the video
mentioned fantastic Thai,Indian, Peruvian, Chinese,
Greek, places like the Persianroom, Afonga de Cham.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Right. All that. And then there's the whole poke
trend they talked about. Yeah.Poke bowls, even poke burritos
where you could just load themup.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah. They mentioned like three proteins, tuna,
lobster, squid brown rice, whiterose, kale, crunchy stuff,
brussels sprout shavings.Sounded huge and delicious. My
stomach's rumbling just thinkingabout it.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Exactly. Yeah. And it's not just fancy places.
You've got these great localfast food joints, cool pizza
places, doing unique things,really good Italian like the
Sicilian Butcher.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay. Okay. I need to hear about this gas station
chicken though.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes. So apparently, there's this gas station off
Frank Lloyd Wright on the 101.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It has this crispy crunchy chicken. And the source
literally said, it's the bestchicken I've ever had. A hidden
secret.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Wow. From a gas station? That's something. And
the grocery store too. Fullrestaurants inside.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah. That's a thing here. And huge alcohol
selections right in the grocerystore. Wine, beer, full liquor
aisles. Even gas stations sellbeer.
It's convenient.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So the takeaway for you, the listener, you won't go
hungry. Yeah. Definitely notbored with the food options.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
No. Never. And honestly, with all that
incredible food, you kinda needto get outdoors.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Good point. Which brings us neatly to the next
surprise, the nature and outdoorliving. Because it really blows
up those desert stereotypes,doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It really does. That big one, you know, I'm gonna
miss the green. The sources say,nope. Arizona has green. It's
just a a different kind ofgreen.
And it's there all year. Treesalways have something, flowers,
leaves, fruit. They're neverjust bare sticks.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And the trees themselves are unique, right?
They describe them as, what wasit, Doctor. Seuss like?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah. Kind of gnarly and twisted. Apparently it's
because they hold so much water,the branches get heavy and break
easily.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh, interesting. So that shapes them.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Right. And they actually grow pretty fast
despite how they look.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And the fruit. The sources talked about the citrus,
just an explosion of it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh, yeah. Lemons, oranges, grapefruit, limes. When
they're in season, there's somuch that neighbors are just
giving bags of it away.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So pro tip, if you move there, get a good juicer
for fresh juice and margaritas,obviously.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Essential Arizona equipment. Then there's the
weather stuff, like the monsoonseason in the summer.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Right. That sounds intense. It's like a sequence.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah. Typically. First, wind kicks up, then you
get the haboob, that massivewall of dust. Wow. And then
maybe ten minutes of reallyheavy rain.
It happens in these, like, threeday bursts.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
And after the rain
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The desert just explodes. It blooms, grows super
fast. You see all sorts offlowers, pink bushes, reds,
yellows. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And those specific desert plants, like the
Ocotillo, looks like deadsticks.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah. Exactly. Until it rains, then boom, beautiful
green shoots, flowers, andprickly pears too.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right. With the red bulbs you can eat or make stuff
from.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Juice, syrup, ice cream, candy.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah. And the cacti themselves are cool. They come
in purple, blue, green, almostlook like cartoons sometimes.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay. But what about the critters people worry about?
Snakes, scorpions?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
The sources were actually really reassuring about
that. Snakes are pretty rare tosee.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Really?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah. One person mentioned seeing, like, two
rattlesnakes on golf courses intwo years and only three in
nature over twenty years.Scorpions also rarely seen
inside. Basically, leave themalone. They're not this constant
threat people imagine.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Okay. That's good to hear. What else is out there?
The video mentioned some unusualstuff.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Cavalinas. They're kinda like wild pigs, but unique
sort of a pig porcupine mix.They run-in family groups.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
What do you do if you see them?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Mostly their eyesight's bad but they sense
smell and motion well.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Got it and rabbits.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Everywhere but they're this smaller gray brown
kind. They look like babies butthey're full grown And tons of
tiny lizards, which are goodguys, they eat the bugs.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Speaking of bugs, is it buggy?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Surprisingly, no. Way fewer insects, especially
mosquitoes compared to a lot ofother places, which is great
for, you know, actually sittingoutside.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Nice. What about coyotes?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You see them. Me high, usually just trotting
along, maybe hoping you'll scareup a rabbit for them. Yeah. But
and this is important. Pick upyour small dogs if you see
coyotes around.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Good advice. And roadrunners, the skinny chicken
bird.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah. Super fast eating lizards. Iconic desert
site.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
So with all this amazing nature and wildlife,
what do people actually do outthere? It sounds like there's a
ton of activities.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh, absolutely. Huge range. You've got the urban fun
side, like Old Town Scottsdalenightlife, tons of shopping,
restaurants galore.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Plus other shopping areas. Right? Fashion Square,
Kierland, The Pavilion?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yep. Plenty of that. But then you have these really
unique local spots, like CaveCreek.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Ah, yes. The biker bars and cowboy bars.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And the rodeo.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah. Right. Where apparently anyone anyone can
sign a waiver and try riding abull.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
That is intense. I don't think I'd try that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Me neither. But, hey, it's an option. And for less
risky thrills, there'sparagliding, skydiving, and hot
air ballooning is huge there.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh, right. The video mentioned seeing hundreds at
once sometimes.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah. The clear skies make it perfect. Lots of weekend
events, especially aroundPhoenix.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
What about getting out in the desert, Like off road
stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Tons of that. Renting jeeps, wranglers, older willies,
maybe ATVs, side by sides.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Those are the sort of buggy like things.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Right. You can zip around fast or do the slow rock
crawling thing, explore allover. You can even go gold
panning in streams.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
As people actually find gold.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Apparently so. Makes you think about that whole lost
Dutchman mine legend. You know?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
True. What about water? Lakes. Saguaro Lake came
up as a big favorite. It's manmade, but beautiful clear water
in a canyon.
Great for boating. Fishing. Theysay the fish are big, and it has
shallow spots for kids.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Sounds idyllic. And lots of camping and hiking too,
I assume.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Absolutely. Great camping near the lakes and
rivers. Mhmm. And the hiking isphenomenal. They mentioned Mount
Lemmon near Tucson.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Oh, yeah. That was wild going from cacti to pine
trees in, an hour's drive.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Crazy. Right? Shows the ecological diversity. And
then there's Havasupai.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Inside the Grand Canyon? Yeah. With the
waterfalls? That lookedincredible.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Totally. So you gotta plan way ahead. Reservations can
take a year or more. It's aserious hike down, like, four
point five hours.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But you can use mules for gear or a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah. Those are options. The paths themselves
sound amazing. Two wavy,multicolored sandstone.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Wow. And Tonto National Park, just fast. Right?
Trails for everything.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Four wheeling, archery, rock hunting, camping.
Huge area. Plus, you know,Arizona's location is pretty
strategic. You're only a fewhours drive from LA, Vegas,
Mexico.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And skiing, I can't quite get my head around that,
being able to go skiing within,what, two hours of Phoenix in
the winter.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah. While it's still warm down in the valley,
it's that contrast again.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So, yeah, we've really covered a lot. It seems
like Arizona, especiallyScottsdale and Phoenix, is this
place of just surprisingdiversity.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Totally. Vibrant community, amazing food, that
incredible accessible outdooradventure.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It really feels like a place where the unexpected is
just normal. Right. You know?From finding amazing chicken at
a gas station to seeing greenall year round in the desert.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Absolutely. It challenges your perceptions.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So thinking about all this, what stands out most to
you? What's the most surprisingor appealing thing about this
environment? How does a placewith all these different pieces,
diverse people, fantastic food,really extreme beautiful nature
create something so cohesive andengaging to live in?
Have you ever wondered what it's really like
(00:02):
to live somewhere known forextremes? You know, like the
desert.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah. People often picture, I don't know,
isolation. Maybe a landscapethat's just brown and
unchanging.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Right. But what if that picture is, well,
completely wrong? Welcome to thedeep dive. Today, we're diving
into some really interestinginsights about why people are
picking Arizona, specificallythe Scottsdale and Phoenix
areas.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah. Our source today is this pretty fascinating
YouTube video. It gives a verypersonal sort of on the ground
look at the pros and cons ofactually moving to Scottsdale.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And our goal here for you listening is to kinda peel
back the curtain on what desertliving is actually like, uncover
some things that might genuinelysurprise you.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Right. Give you a a more nuanced picture than maybe
the common ideas out there.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Exactly. Get ready to find out why so many folks are
drawn to that Arizona lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So let's start right at the top maybe. The people.
The community.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Because one of the biggest pros that jumps out from
the source material is just howeasy it seems to be to meet
people. And the friendly vibe.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
That really struck me too. I mean, I moved out here
twenty years ago, and I rememberwondering, you know, is this
place too transient? Will itlack that deep community feel?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And what did you find?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Completely the opposite, actually. Pretty
quickly, I found what I stillcall my, diverse adoptive
family, friends from literallyall over the world, all over The
US.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And what's really interesting is why the sources
point to this shared experience,the fact that almost everyone is
from somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Right. The outsider thing.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Exactly. It creates this immediate common ground and
openness. Know, I've only beenhere two years myself and that
fear you always have when youmove, am I going to make
friends? It just wasn't reallyan issue here. It gets overcome
pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So that diversity isn't just about culture. It's
about, like, shared journeysconverging. Makes it welcoming.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Does that mean connections are shallow, though?
Or do people really put downroots?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The sources definitely suggest the opposite.
Yeah. People seem very willing,almost eager to connect. So
those bonds form fast, and theyseem pretty genuine, pretty
strong.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay. That makes sense. And speaking of
surprising positives, let's talkfood because, wow, the sources
called the food scenephenomenal. A major reason to
live there.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Oh, definitely. And it's not just about having good
restaurants. It's more likePhoenix and Scottsdale are this
living food lab.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
A food lab? How so?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, because the population is so diverse, it's a
prime test market for restaurantchains.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Ah, okay. So you get to try stuff first.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Pretty much. You get access to new concepts,
different global cuisines,sometimes way before they go
mainstream.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
That's a serious perk. I mean, the video
mentioned fantastic Thai,Indian, Peruvian, Chinese,
Greek, places like the Persianroom, Afonga de Cham.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Right. All that. And then there's the whole poke
trend they talked about. Yeah.Poke bowls, even poke burritos
where you could just load themup.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah. They mentioned like three proteins, tuna,
lobster, squid brown rice, whiterose, kale, crunchy stuff,
brussels sprout shavings.Sounded huge and delicious. My
stomach's rumbling just thinkingabout it.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Exactly. Yeah. And it's not just fancy places.
You've got these great localfast food joints, cool pizza
places, doing unique things,really good Italian like the
Sicilian Butcher.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay. Okay. I need to hear about this gas station
chicken though.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes. So apparently, there's this gas station off
Frank Lloyd Wright on the 101.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It has this crispy crunchy chicken. And the source
literally said, it's the bestchicken I've ever had. A hidden
secret.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Wow. From a gas station? That's something. And
the grocery store too. Fullrestaurants inside.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah. That's a thing here. And huge alcohol
selections right in the grocerystore. Wine, beer, full liquor
aisles. Even gas stations sellbeer.
It's convenient.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So the takeaway for you, the listener, you won't go
hungry. Yeah. Definitely notbored with the food options.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
No. Never. And honestly, with all that
incredible food, you kinda needto get outdoors.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Good point. Which brings us neatly to the next
surprise, the nature and outdoorliving. Because it really blows
up those desert stereotypes,doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It really does. That big one, you know, I'm gonna
miss the green. The sources say,nope. Arizona has green. It's
just a a different kind ofgreen.
And it's there all year. Treesalways have something, flowers,
leaves, fruit. They're neverjust bare sticks.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And the trees themselves are unique, right?
They describe them as, what wasit, Doctor. Seuss like?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah. Kind of gnarly and twisted. Apparently it's
because they hold so much water,the branches get heavy and break
easily.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh, interesting. So that shapes them.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Right. And they actually grow pretty fast
despite how they look.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And the fruit. The sources talked about the citrus,
just an explosion of it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh, yeah. Lemons, oranges, grapefruit, limes. When
they're in season, there's somuch that neighbors are just
giving bags of it away.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So pro tip, if you move there, get a good juicer
for fresh juice and margaritas,obviously.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Essential Arizona equipment. Then there's the
weather stuff, like the monsoonseason in the summer.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Right. That sounds intense. It's like a sequence.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah. Typically. First, wind kicks up, then you
get the haboob, that massivewall of dust. Wow. And then
maybe ten minutes of reallyheavy rain.
It happens in these, like, threeday bursts.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
And after the rain
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The desert just explodes. It blooms, grows super
fast. You see all sorts offlowers, pink bushes, reds,
yellows. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And those specific desert plants, like the
Ocotillo, looks like deadsticks.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah. Exactly. Until it rains, then boom, beautiful
green shoots, flowers, andprickly pears too.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right. With the red bulbs you can eat or make stuff
from.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Juice, syrup, ice cream, candy.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah. And the cacti themselves are cool. They come
in purple, blue, green, almostlook like cartoons sometimes.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay. But what about the critters people worry about?
Snakes, scorpions?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
The sources were actually really reassuring about
that. Snakes are pretty rare tosee.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Really?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah. One person mentioned seeing, like, two
rattlesnakes on golf courses intwo years and only three in
nature over twenty years.Scorpions also rarely seen
inside. Basically, leave themalone. They're not this constant
threat people imagine.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Okay. That's good to hear. What else is out there?
The video mentioned some unusualstuff.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Cavalinas. They're kinda like wild pigs, but unique
sort of a pig porcupine mix.They run-in family groups.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
What do you do if you see them?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Mostly their eyesight's bad but they sense
smell and motion well.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Got it and rabbits.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Everywhere but they're this smaller gray brown
kind. They look like babies butthey're full grown And tons of
tiny lizards, which are goodguys, they eat the bugs.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Speaking of bugs, is it buggy?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Surprisingly, no. Way fewer insects, especially
mosquitoes compared to a lot ofother places, which is great
for, you know, actually sittingoutside.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Nice. What about coyotes?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You see them. Me high, usually just trotting
along, maybe hoping you'll scareup a rabbit for them. Yeah. But
and this is important. Pick upyour small dogs if you see
coyotes around.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Good advice. And roadrunners, the skinny chicken
bird.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah. Super fast eating lizards. Iconic desert
site.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
So with all this amazing nature and wildlife,
what do people actually do outthere? It sounds like there's a
ton of activities.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh, absolutely. Huge range. You've got the urban fun
side, like Old Town Scottsdalenightlife, tons of shopping,
restaurants galore.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Plus other shopping areas. Right? Fashion Square,
Kierland, The Pavilion?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yep. Plenty of that. But then you have these really
unique local spots, like CaveCreek.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Ah, yes. The biker bars and cowboy bars.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And the rodeo.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah. Right. Where apparently anyone anyone can
sign a waiver and try riding abull.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
That is intense. I don't think I'd try that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Me neither. But, hey, it's an option. And for less
risky thrills, there'sparagliding, skydiving, and hot
air ballooning is huge there.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh, right. The video mentioned seeing hundreds at
once sometimes.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah. The clear skies make it perfect. Lots of weekend
events, especially aroundPhoenix.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
What about getting out in the desert, Like off road
stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Tons of that. Renting jeeps, wranglers, older willies,
maybe ATVs, side by sides.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Those are the sort of buggy like things.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Right. You can zip around fast or do the slow rock
crawling thing, explore allover. You can even go gold
panning in streams.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
As people actually find gold.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Apparently so. Makes you think about that whole lost
Dutchman mine legend. You know?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
True. What about water? Lakes. Saguaro Lake came
up as a big favorite. It's manmade, but beautiful clear water
in a canyon.
Great for boating. Fishing. Theysay the fish are big, and it has
shallow spots for kids.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Sounds idyllic. And lots of camping and hiking too,
I assume.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Absolutely. Great camping near the lakes and
rivers. Mhmm. And the hiking isphenomenal. They mentioned Mount
Lemmon near Tucson.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Oh, yeah. That was wild going from cacti to pine
trees in, an hour's drive.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Crazy. Right? Shows the ecological diversity. And
then there's Havasupai.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Inside the Grand Canyon? Yeah. With the
waterfalls? That lookedincredible.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Totally. So you gotta plan way ahead. Reservations can
take a year or more. It's aserious hike down, like, four
point five hours.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But you can use mules for gear or a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah. Those are options. The paths themselves
sound amazing. Two wavy,multicolored sandstone.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Wow. And Tonto National Park, just fast. Right?
Trails for everything.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Four wheeling, archery, rock hunting, camping.
Huge area. Plus, you know,Arizona's location is pretty
strategic. You're only a fewhours drive from LA, Vegas,
Mexico.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And skiing, I can't quite get my head around that,
being able to go skiing within,what, two hours of Phoenix in
the winter.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah. While it's still warm down in the valley,
it's that contrast again.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So, yeah, we've really covered a lot. It seems
like Arizona, especiallyScottsdale and Phoenix, is this
place of just surprisingdiversity.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Totally. Vibrant community, amazing food, that
incredible accessible outdooradventure.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It really feels like a place where the unexpected is
just normal. Right. You know?From finding amazing chicken at
a gas station to seeing greenall year round in the desert.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Absolutely. It challenges your perceptions.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So thinking about all this, what stands out most to
you? What's the most surprisingor appealing thing about this
environment? How does a placewith all these different pieces,
diverse people, fantastic food,really extreme beautiful nature
create something so cohesive andengaging to live in?
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