June 20, 2025 • 13 mins
Exploring Roadrunner Park in Phoenix, Arizona. Highlighting its Saturday farmers market with vendors selling local honey, grass-fed meats, microgreens, juices, and artisan breads. It also showcases the park's recreational amenities like sports fields, a duck pond, swimming pool, and tennis courts. A guide for potential residents, comparing Arizona's dry heat to Florida's humidity and providing an overview of the Phoenix metropolitan area, its freeway system, and airport options. It then breaks down real estate values by neighborhood, pointing out areas of high value like Paradise Valley and more affordable options, and emphasizing the benefits of living near Scottsdale for property appreciation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the deep dive. Today we're, diving into
(00:03):
Phoenix, Arizona, exploringthat, you know, blend of
community life and city appeal.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah. It's a really interesting mix.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we've got some great source material
observations, interviews Mhmm.From a local resident there so
it's a real boots on the groundperspective.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Exactly. It gives it that authentic feel.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Our mission really is to pull out the key insights,
maybe some surprising facts, thethings that make Phoenix and
spots like Roadrunner Park soattractive.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Right. To residents, but also maybe people thinking
of moving there?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah. And how a place like that park kinda reflects
the whole city's lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's pretty amazing how one park can do that, act as
a sort of microcosm. RoadrunnerPark, I mean, it's not just
grass. It's a real hub. Uh-huh.Super convenient too right near
Tatum and the 51 Freeway.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And it sounds like it has a ton of stuff going on, not
just fields. Right?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh, definitely. There's the farmer's market,
which is huge. Mhmm. Sportsfields, tennis courts, pools.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Pools too.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Nice. Yeah. And it's very dog friendly. There's even
a little duck pond where youactually see people fishing.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Fishing? Yeah. Park pond.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yep. And just, you know, lots of people walking,
strollers, dogs, picnic spotseverywhere. It feels very
active, community focused.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Sounds like the kind of place you could spend a whole
Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Totally. And a big part of that, especially on
Saturdays, is the youth sportsscene. Like, I nine Sports. They
run programs there.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I nine Sports. What do they offer?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Pretty much everything you can think of.
Baseball, soccer, flag football
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
T ball, cheerleading, volleyball, basketball, even
lacrosse usually in themornings.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Wow. That's lot. What age range are we talking?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's broad. Starts at three, goes all the way up to
14.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Three to 14.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And they structure it as a seven week program. Mostly
Saturdays, but some Sundays too.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You you mentioned they move indoors in summer.
Smart given the Phoenix heat.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Exactly. Keeps the kids playing year round. The
cost is pretty reasonable too.Starts around a $139 if you
register early. Goes up to maybea $199 later.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But what's really cool, I think, is the buddy
requests thing.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Buddy requests? What's that?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Kids can ask to be on the same team as their friends.
So you get these teams stickingtogether, sometimes for years.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh, that's great for building connections, like real
community building from a youngage.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Exactly. It really fosters that sense of belonging.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Okay. So speaking of community magnets
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Mhmm. Let's talk about the Farmer's Market at
Roadrunner Park. Sounds likeit's a big deal. It absolutely
is. It's actually the longestrunning farmer's market in
Phoenix.
The oldest one.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Really? The oldest. Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah. And you can see why it's lasted. You've got
vendors like Noble Bread.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Noble Bread. What's their specialty?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, sourdough is their best seller. Yeah. But
they're smart about it. Theyoffer two kinds.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Two kinds of sourdough.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah. One's the traditional natural 11 type, you
know, really tangy.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But they also do a softer yeast based one, more
like a regular sandwich breadfor people who prefer that, plus
rolls, buns, pastries.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Options.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, and they have this jalapeno cheddar sourdough
that people apparently raveabout.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay. Jalapeno cheddar sourdough. You have my
attention. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But okay. Moving on. If you want something really,
like, eye opening you mentionedKenny's honey.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh, Kenny. Yeah. Talk to him about honey. It it kinda
changes how you think about it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
How so?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, first, he's a big believer that local raw
honey helps with allergies. Histheory is it helps you cut out
corn syrup, which messes thingsup.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Interesting take. Cutting out corn syrup.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah. And that leads to his main point, this raw
versus local idea.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Raw versus local. What does he mean?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He insists that raw matters more. Like, he'd take
raw honey from Canada or Mexicoover a local honey that's been
processed, you know, cooked,filtered, pasteurized.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So processed local honey is less good.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
In his view. Yeah. He says the real magic is when it's
both raw and local, but raw isthe absolute key.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That really flips the script. I was at local was the
most important thing for honey.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Me too before hearing this. And he talks about flavors
from different flowers, cactus,mesquite, alfalfa, clover, all
that.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But he stresses that any raw honey is beneficial. And
get this, raw honey has tocrystallize.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It has to. Thought that meant it went bad.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Nope. He says it never goes bad. It actually gets
better with time. Takes likethree to five years to fully
crystallize.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Seriously. Three to five years.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah. He even has clients from France and Romania
who want the fully crystallizedaged stuff. Says you can warm it
up to make it liquid again, butmany like it solid.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Wow. Mind blown. Yeah. What else? Does he eat a
lot of it himself?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He says he eats about half a jar a day
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Half a jar.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
For fifteen years. And he claims he has zero
cravings for soda, pizza, candy.Nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Maybe there's something to it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
He even suggests making a healthy candy bar in a
jar, just honey mixed withpecans and maybe some chocolate
drops or raisins.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay. I like that idea. A healthier treat. And he
mentioned wildflower honey.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah. As a good general blend. Said it's about
half glucose, half fructose, andpotentially good for diabetics.
You learn so much talkingdirectly to these vendors.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. From sweet to savory, J
and H grass fed beef. What'stheir story?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right. J and H. Their whole focus is natural. No
steroids, no hormones. Grassfed, grass finished.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Grass finished? Okay. Important distinction.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And they dry age the beef for fourteen days before
cutting. Makes a huge differencein flavor and tenderness.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Fourteen days. Wow. What kind of products do they
have?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
A really wide range. Beef, obviously, steaks, roasts,
ground beef, breakfast sausage,chorizo, even organ meats.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But also chicken, turkey, lamb, and they partner
with Alaskan Pride for fish.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So where does it all come from?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's proper farm to table. The main ranch is huge.
70,000 acres in Bloody Basin.They rent it from the Forest
Service.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
70,000 acres.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah. Lambs from Williams, Arizona. Chicken and
turkey from Paulden, Arizona,and the fish, well, Alaska.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Got it. Do they have a best seller? What's popular?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
The tenderloin filet mignon. It goes for about $39.50
a pound, which usually gets youtwo steaks. People clearly value
that quality and the naturalapproach.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah. You can see that trend. People wanna know
where their food comes from.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Definitely. And sticking with that healthy
natural theme, sunny sidegreens?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Microgreens.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Right? Tiny plants, big impact. Exactly. He
described them as just smallversions of the full grown
plant, but nutritionally, theycan have four to 40 times more
nutrient.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
40 times? That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Plus, great flavor. Their top seller is a spicy mix,
radish, mustard, arugula. Packsa real punch nutritionally and
taste wise.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Interesting. Okay. How about drinks? Gloria's juice
box. Sounds fun.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah. And apparently, they're really well known. Got
voted best in the valley,featured in Phoenix Magazine.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh, nice. What kind of juices?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Four main flavors, strawberry guava, passion fruit
guava, watermelon guava, andpeach passion fruit. Very
vibrant.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Guava seems to be a theme.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It does. And the cool thing is how versatile they are.
Drink them straight, obviously.But also use them as mixers and
smoothies, make slushies,popsicles.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Popsicles. Good idea.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Or freeze them into ice cubes for sparkling water,
wine, tea, lemonade. Reallycreative uses.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
They have names for drink pairings too. Right?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
They do. Peach passion fruit is the fun day
sundae. Good with vodka,tequila, rum. Watermelon guava
is the liquid jolly rancher.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah. Liquid Jolly Rancher.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Passion fruit guava is great for mimosas or
mocktails. And strawberry guava,that's tequila's best friend.
Think margaritas, duck tiris.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Tequila's best friend. I like that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And she suggested freezing it till it's slushy,
then adding tagine seasoning,like your own little personal
party in a cup.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Oh, tagine on a fruit slushie. That sounds amazing for
a hot day.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Right. And then rounding up the market tour,
there's Little Mama's products,soaps.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Handmade soaps?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah. Scratch made soaps and shaving soaps by Sue.
She says they lather well,aren't drying, and smell really
good.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
But what makes them special? Any key ingredients?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, for some of her most popular ones, she uses
tallow.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Tallow, like animal fat.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Exactly. She explained it's chemically
similar to our skin, so it'sreally soothing and
moisturizing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But she's mindful of preferences. She also makes a
whole line of vegan soaps. Nomilk, no honey, no tallow. So
options for everyone.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's smart. Catering to different people.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And she's been at the specific market for twenty three
years. It's her only market.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Twenty three years. That's real dedication. It
speaks volumes about that marketcommunity.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It really does. It shows the loyalty, the
connection people feel there.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So if we kinda zoom out from the market Mhmm. All
these vendors, Noble Bread,Kenny's Honey, J and H Beef,
Glorious Sue, They really painta picture, don't they?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Absolutely. Of that entrepreneurial spirit, the
focus on quality, local stuff,health, it feels very Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah. Which brings us to the broader picture why
Phoenix itself is appealing,especially for people thinking
about relocating.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Right. Moving beyond the park. Often, for people
looking at warmer states, thecomparison boils down to Arizona
versus Florida. Maybe Tennesseegets a look in sometimes.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And a big plus for Arizona is usually the heat.
Right. But specifically the dryheat.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Exactly. That's the key difference.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
People often find it much more comfortable than
Florida's humidity, especiallyolder folks. Sometimes it helps
with aches and pains.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's a significant quality of life factor.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Huge. And then there's the sheer amount of
sunshine over 300 days a year.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Which means?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Year round golf.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And yeah, people hear a 105 degrees in summer and
flinch. But because it's dry,it's different. You don't feel
sticky and drained in the sameway.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
More bearable than it sounds.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Kinda. Yeah. And here's a tip for golfers. Summer
green fees drop way down. Plus,the courses are less crowded, so
you can zip around in maybe two,three hours.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Ah, a summer perk then.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Now navigating the area
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They call it Valley. Right? Phoenix Metro?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yep. The Valley. Includes Scottsdale, Paradise
Valley, Mesa, Peoria, Surprise.It's sprawling.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But getting around is pretty manageable. Good freeway
system, the I 10, the 60, the101 Loop, 202 Loop, I 17, the
51, they connect everythingpretty well.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And if you need a break from the heat?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You can escape up north, Flagstaff, Prescott,
mountain towns, cooler temps,maybe around 70 degrees in
summer, nice change of scenery.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Good to have options and airports.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Three main ones, Phoenix Sky Harbor, the big
international one, Mesa Gateway,which is popular with snowbirds.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The winter visitors.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right. And Scottsdale Airport, mostly for private
jets. So well connected.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Okay. The big question for movers. Real
estate. Where to live? What doesit cost?
Sounds like a mixed bag.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Very mixed. You can almost picture a heat map with
these red spots where homes areover $2,000,000.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Like Paradise Valley PV.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Exactly. That's like the sixth wealthiest community
in The US. Yeah. Lots of oldmoney. Average sale price is
maybe $4,500,000 now.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Woah. Okay. So that's one end. What about more
accessible options?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah. There are areas with really good value around
Paradise Village, Stone Creekarea, especially in your golf
courses. You can find condosmaybe in the $350 range.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
350 k. That sounds more doable. Good for snowbirds
maybe.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Perfect for snowbirds. Still close to
everything. Maybe fifteenminutes from the airport
attractions. It's a goodbalance.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And location within the valley matters a lot too.
Right? Like that Tatum border.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh, yeah. Tatum Boulevard is basically the line
between Scottsdale East andPhoenix West. And generally,
property values tend to climbfaster just east of the 51
Freeway.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Why is that? Closer to Scottsdale.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Proximity to Scottsdale and Paradise Valley.
Exactly. It pulls values up.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And the markets move fast overall.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Incredibly fast. Homes that were maybe $350,000
just a few years ago, nowthey're easily 600,000,
$700,000. Wow. And houses thatwere maybe a million or now
multimillion, big jumps. Showsthe demand.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Definitely. So besides housing and climate,
what about lifestyle stuff,things to do?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh, tons. Phoenix hosts major events. The waste
management opened the big golftournament.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
By the TPC.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Barrett Jackson Car Auction, huge equestrian shows.
Those draw big crowds.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay. And more everyday stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, you have areas like Gainey Ranch, which is high
end residential, popular. Homesmaybe $1 to $2. Uh-huh. And then
there's Old Town Scottsdale.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yes. The playground.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Pretty much. Big tourist spot, but locals love it
too. Bars, boutiques, artgalleries, and just awesome
restaurants. Really vibrant.Mhmm.
And it's only like a fifteenminute drive from where our
source lives near RoadrunnerPark.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So it's all quite accessible.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Very.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay. So wrapping this all together.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
What's the takeaway for you, the listener, when you
connect that local experiencelike Roadrunner Park?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
With its farmers market, the sports, the
community feel.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
To the broader Phoenix lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Mhmm.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The climate, the housing, the activities. What
picture emerges?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I think it shows how these local hubs really embody
the city's character. Thatentrepreneurial energy we saw at
the market, the health focus,the strong sense of community.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Right. It's not just abstract. You see it in action
at places like the park.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah. So whether you're actually thinking of
moving or maybe you're justinterested in how cities work,
how communities form
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Phoenix offers this interesting mix. Practical
pluses like the dry heat andhousing options combined with
real quality of life, thecommunity, the food, things to
do.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's a compelling package.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh,
Speaker 1 (13:35):
definitely. Which leads to maybe a final thought
for you to chew on. How much dothese small local spots, the
park, the market, the specificvendors with their passions.
Yeah. How much do they reallydefine the character of a whole
metro area?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah. And what does that tell you about the kinds of
places you might look for orappreciate wherever you happen
to be? What makes a place feellike home?
Welcome to the deep dive. Today we're, diving into
(00:03):
Phoenix, Arizona, exploringthat, you know, blend of
community life and city appeal.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah. It's a really interesting mix.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we've got some great source material
observations, interviews Mhmm.From a local resident there so
it's a real boots on the groundperspective.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Exactly. It gives it that authentic feel.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Our mission really is to pull out the key insights,
maybe some surprising facts, thethings that make Phoenix and
spots like Roadrunner Park soattractive.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Right. To residents, but also maybe people thinking
of moving there?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah. And how a place like that park kinda reflects
the whole city's lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's pretty amazing how one park can do that, act as
a sort of microcosm. RoadrunnerPark, I mean, it's not just
grass. It's a real hub. Uh-huh.Super convenient too right near
Tatum and the 51 Freeway.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And it sounds like it has a ton of stuff going on, not
just fields. Right?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh, definitely. There's the farmer's market,
which is huge. Mhmm. Sportsfields, tennis courts, pools.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Pools too.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Nice. Yeah. And it's very dog friendly. There's even
a little duck pond where youactually see people fishing.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Fishing? Yeah. Park pond.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yep. And just, you know, lots of people walking,
strollers, dogs, picnic spotseverywhere. It feels very
active, community focused.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Sounds like the kind of place you could spend a whole
Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Totally. And a big part of that, especially on
Saturdays, is the youth sportsscene. Like, I nine Sports. They
run programs there.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I nine Sports. What do they offer?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Pretty much everything you can think of.
Baseball, soccer, flag football
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
T ball, cheerleading, volleyball, basketball, even
lacrosse usually in themornings.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Wow. That's lot. What age range are we talking?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's broad. Starts at three, goes all the way up to
14.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Three to 14.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And they structure it as a seven week program. Mostly
Saturdays, but some Sundays too.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You you mentioned they move indoors in summer.
Smart given the Phoenix heat.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Exactly. Keeps the kids playing year round. The
cost is pretty reasonable too.Starts around a $139 if you
register early. Goes up to maybea $199 later.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But what's really cool, I think, is the buddy
requests thing.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Buddy requests? What's that?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Kids can ask to be on the same team as their friends.
So you get these teams stickingtogether, sometimes for years.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh, that's great for building connections, like real
community building from a youngage.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Exactly. It really fosters that sense of belonging.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Okay. So speaking of community magnets
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Mhmm. Let's talk about the Farmer's Market at
Roadrunner Park. Sounds likeit's a big deal. It absolutely
is. It's actually the longestrunning farmer's market in
Phoenix.
The oldest one.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Really? The oldest. Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah. And you can see why it's lasted. You've got
vendors like Noble Bread.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Noble Bread. What's their specialty?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, sourdough is their best seller. Yeah. But
they're smart about it. Theyoffer two kinds.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Two kinds of sourdough.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah. One's the traditional natural 11 type, you
know, really tangy.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But they also do a softer yeast based one, more
like a regular sandwich breadfor people who prefer that, plus
rolls, buns, pastries.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Options.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, and they have this jalapeno cheddar sourdough
that people apparently raveabout.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay. Jalapeno cheddar sourdough. You have my
attention. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But okay. Moving on. If you want something really,
like, eye opening you mentionedKenny's honey.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh, Kenny. Yeah. Talk to him about honey. It it kinda
changes how you think about it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
How so?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, first, he's a big believer that local raw
honey helps with allergies. Histheory is it helps you cut out
corn syrup, which messes thingsup.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Interesting take. Cutting out corn syrup.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah. And that leads to his main point, this raw
versus local idea.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Raw versus local. What does he mean?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He insists that raw matters more. Like, he'd take
raw honey from Canada or Mexicoover a local honey that's been
processed, you know, cooked,filtered, pasteurized.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So processed local honey is less good.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
In his view. Yeah. He says the real magic is when it's
both raw and local, but raw isthe absolute key.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That really flips the script. I was at local was the
most important thing for honey.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Me too before hearing this. And he talks about flavors
from different flowers, cactus,mesquite, alfalfa, clover, all
that.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But he stresses that any raw honey is beneficial. And
get this, raw honey has tocrystallize.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It has to. Thought that meant it went bad.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Nope. He says it never goes bad. It actually gets
better with time. Takes likethree to five years to fully
crystallize.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Seriously. Three to five years.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah. He even has clients from France and Romania
who want the fully crystallizedaged stuff. Says you can warm it
up to make it liquid again, butmany like it solid.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Wow. Mind blown. Yeah. What else? Does he eat a
lot of it himself?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He says he eats about half a jar a day
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Half a jar.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
For fifteen years. And he claims he has zero
cravings for soda, pizza, candy.Nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Maybe there's something to it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
He even suggests making a healthy candy bar in a
jar, just honey mixed withpecans and maybe some chocolate
drops or raisins.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay. I like that idea. A healthier treat. And he
mentioned wildflower honey.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah. As a good general blend. Said it's about
half glucose, half fructose, andpotentially good for diabetics.
You learn so much talkingdirectly to these vendors.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. From sweet to savory, J
and H grass fed beef. What'stheir story?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right. J and H. Their whole focus is natural. No
steroids, no hormones. Grassfed, grass finished.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Grass finished? Okay. Important distinction.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And they dry age the beef for fourteen days before
cutting. Makes a huge differencein flavor and tenderness.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Fourteen days. Wow. What kind of products do they
have?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
A really wide range. Beef, obviously, steaks, roasts,
ground beef, breakfast sausage,chorizo, even organ meats.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But also chicken, turkey, lamb, and they partner
with Alaskan Pride for fish.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So where does it all come from?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's proper farm to table. The main ranch is huge.
70,000 acres in Bloody Basin.They rent it from the Forest
Service.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
70,000 acres.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah. Lambs from Williams, Arizona. Chicken and
turkey from Paulden, Arizona,and the fish, well, Alaska.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Got it. Do they have a best seller? What's popular?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
The tenderloin filet mignon. It goes for about $39.50
a pound, which usually gets youtwo steaks. People clearly value
that quality and the naturalapproach.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah. You can see that trend. People wanna know
where their food comes from.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Definitely. And sticking with that healthy
natural theme, sunny sidegreens?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Microgreens.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Right? Tiny plants, big impact. Exactly. He
described them as just smallversions of the full grown
plant, but nutritionally, theycan have four to 40 times more
nutrient.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
40 times? That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Plus, great flavor. Their top seller is a spicy mix,
radish, mustard, arugula. Packsa real punch nutritionally and
taste wise.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Interesting. Okay. How about drinks? Gloria's juice
box. Sounds fun.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah. And apparently, they're really well known. Got
voted best in the valley,featured in Phoenix Magazine.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh, nice. What kind of juices?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Four main flavors, strawberry guava, passion fruit
guava, watermelon guava, andpeach passion fruit. Very
vibrant.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Guava seems to be a theme.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It does. And the cool thing is how versatile they are.
Drink them straight, obviously.But also use them as mixers and
smoothies, make slushies,popsicles.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Popsicles. Good idea.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Or freeze them into ice cubes for sparkling water,
wine, tea, lemonade. Reallycreative uses.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
They have names for drink pairings too. Right?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
They do. Peach passion fruit is the fun day
sundae. Good with vodka,tequila, rum. Watermelon guava
is the liquid jolly rancher.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah. Liquid Jolly Rancher.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Passion fruit guava is great for mimosas or
mocktails. And strawberry guava,that's tequila's best friend.
Think margaritas, duck tiris.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Tequila's best friend. I like that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And she suggested freezing it till it's slushy,
then adding tagine seasoning,like your own little personal
party in a cup.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Oh, tagine on a fruit slushie. That sounds amazing for
a hot day.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Right. And then rounding up the market tour,
there's Little Mama's products,soaps.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Handmade soaps?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah. Scratch made soaps and shaving soaps by Sue.
She says they lather well,aren't drying, and smell really
good.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
But what makes them special? Any key ingredients?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, for some of her most popular ones, she uses
tallow.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Tallow, like animal fat.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Exactly. She explained it's chemically
similar to our skin, so it'sreally soothing and
moisturizing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But she's mindful of preferences. She also makes a
whole line of vegan soaps. Nomilk, no honey, no tallow. So
options for everyone.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's smart. Catering to different people.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And she's been at the specific market for twenty three
years. It's her only market.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Twenty three years. That's real dedication. It
speaks volumes about that marketcommunity.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It really does. It shows the loyalty, the
connection people feel there.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So if we kinda zoom out from the market Mhmm. All
these vendors, Noble Bread,Kenny's Honey, J and H Beef,
Glorious Sue, They really painta picture, don't they?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Absolutely. Of that entrepreneurial spirit, the
focus on quality, local stuff,health, it feels very Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah. Which brings us to the broader picture why
Phoenix itself is appealing,especially for people thinking
about relocating.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Right. Moving beyond the park. Often, for people
looking at warmer states, thecomparison boils down to Arizona
versus Florida. Maybe Tennesseegets a look in sometimes.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And a big plus for Arizona is usually the heat.
Right. But specifically the dryheat.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Exactly. That's the key difference.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
People often find it much more comfortable than
Florida's humidity, especiallyolder folks. Sometimes it helps
with aches and pains.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's a significant quality of life factor.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Huge. And then there's the sheer amount of
sunshine over 300 days a year.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Which means?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Year round golf.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And yeah, people hear a 105 degrees in summer and
flinch. But because it's dry,it's different. You don't feel
sticky and drained in the sameway.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
More bearable than it sounds.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Kinda. Yeah. And here's a tip for golfers. Summer
green fees drop way down. Plus,the courses are less crowded, so
you can zip around in maybe two,three hours.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Ah, a summer perk then.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Now navigating the area
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They call it Valley. Right? Phoenix Metro?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yep. The Valley. Includes Scottsdale, Paradise
Valley, Mesa, Peoria, Surprise.It's sprawling.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But getting around is pretty manageable. Good freeway
system, the I 10, the 60, the101 Loop, 202 Loop, I 17, the
51, they connect everythingpretty well.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And if you need a break from the heat?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You can escape up north, Flagstaff, Prescott,
mountain towns, cooler temps,maybe around 70 degrees in
summer, nice change of scenery.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Good to have options and airports.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Three main ones, Phoenix Sky Harbor, the big
international one, Mesa Gateway,which is popular with snowbirds.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The winter visitors.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right. And Scottsdale Airport, mostly for private
jets. So well connected.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Okay. The big question for movers. Real
estate. Where to live? What doesit cost?
Sounds like a mixed bag.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Very mixed. You can almost picture a heat map with
these red spots where homes areover $2,000,000.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Like Paradise Valley PV.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Exactly. That's like the sixth wealthiest community
in The US. Yeah. Lots of oldmoney. Average sale price is
maybe $4,500,000 now.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Woah. Okay. So that's one end. What about more
accessible options?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah. There are areas with really good value around
Paradise Village, Stone Creekarea, especially in your golf
courses. You can find condosmaybe in the $350 range.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
350 k. That sounds more doable. Good for snowbirds
maybe.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Perfect for snowbirds. Still close to
everything. Maybe fifteenminutes from the airport
attractions. It's a goodbalance.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And location within the valley matters a lot too.
Right? Like that Tatum border.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh, yeah. Tatum Boulevard is basically the line
between Scottsdale East andPhoenix West. And generally,
property values tend to climbfaster just east of the 51
Freeway.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Why is that? Closer to Scottsdale.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Proximity to Scottsdale and Paradise Valley.
Exactly. It pulls values up.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And the markets move fast overall.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Incredibly fast. Homes that were maybe $350,000
just a few years ago, nowthey're easily 600,000,
$700,000. Wow. And houses thatwere maybe a million or now
multimillion, big jumps. Showsthe demand.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Definitely. So besides housing and climate,
what about lifestyle stuff,things to do?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh, tons. Phoenix hosts major events. The waste
management opened the big golftournament.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
By the TPC.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Barrett Jackson Car Auction, huge equestrian shows.
Those draw big crowds.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay. And more everyday stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, you have areas like Gainey Ranch, which is high
end residential, popular. Homesmaybe $1 to $2. Uh-huh. And then
there's Old Town Scottsdale.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yes. The playground.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Pretty much. Big tourist spot, but locals love it
too. Bars, boutiques, artgalleries, and just awesome
restaurants. Really vibrant.Mhmm.
And it's only like a fifteenminute drive from where our
source lives near RoadrunnerPark.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So it's all quite accessible.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Very.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay. So wrapping this all together.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
What's the takeaway for you, the listener, when you
connect that local experiencelike Roadrunner Park?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
With its farmers market, the sports, the
community feel.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
To the broader Phoenix lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Mhmm.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The climate, the housing, the activities. What
picture emerges?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I think it shows how these local hubs really embody
the city's character. Thatentrepreneurial energy we saw at
the market, the health focus,the strong sense of community.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Right. It's not just abstract. You see it in action
at places like the park.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah. So whether you're actually thinking of
moving or maybe you're justinterested in how cities work,
how communities form
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Phoenix offers this interesting mix. Practical
pluses like the dry heat andhousing options combined with
real quality of life, thecommunity, the food, things to
do.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's a compelling package.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh,
Speaker 1 (13:35):
definitely. Which leads to maybe a final thought
for you to chew on. How much dothese small local spots, the
park, the market, the specificvendors with their passions.
Yeah. How much do they reallydefine the character of a whole
metro area?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah. And what does that tell you about the kinds of
places you might look for orappreciate wherever you happen
to be? What makes a place feellike home?
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