Endurance racing, look ahead at MotoAmerica at NJMP & MotoGP at Motegi in S5 Ep 30

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Episode Transcript

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You're listening to the B Favor Cool podcast.
My name is Rex 45. This evening we got the All Star
lineup. We got TJ in the building.
What's going on? TJ man, how you doing, man?
I'm doing great man, excited forthis weekend.
We got Moto GP and Moto America ahead of us and I can't wait

(00:21):
because I found around the Moto America see where everybody
places and see a lot of people in person so.
No doubt, no doubt, no doubt we're going to have some fun
tonight. It's going to be a good night.
Let's move down the line up. We got Reese in the building man
Reese, how you doing tonight? You must be excited.
You got the weekend coming up. I don't see you sweating over
there. You look cool as a cucumber.

(00:41):
It's. Good man.
Hey man, I'm hanging in there man.
Ready to go, ready to get to theweekend started.
Hopefully it don't be a wet one or I ain't got to be looking
like a swamp monster. I, I know that we're going to
talk about all the possible options for conditions out
there. Last but not least, we got the
numbers guy in the building. Lewis, what's going on, man?
What's going on today? Another another interesting

(01:03):
weekend of motorcycle stuff. You know, you might not notice
Lewis man, but a year ago we didour first interview together.
Now look at this man. Crazy man.
Yeah, man, it's, it's, it's goneby really fast.
And you know, I, as always, you know, I like to thank everybody
that listens and watches. It's great to get feedback and
you know, have just people hit me up on Instagram, things like

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that. It's cool, man.
I didn't think when we first didthe first interview, you know, I
was thinking we'll do a few and we'll see how it goes.
But you know, here we are a yeardown the road and seems like a
lot has happened in the last year.
No doubt, no doubt. We're going to keep this thing
moving for sure. What's going on, fellas?
Welcome back. You know, there's going to be

(01:44):
some cheers, some tears this weekend, whether you're in the
US, whether you're in Motege, hell, you might even be in in
the UK somewhere because you might not get a contract.
A lot of moving pieces in in, inthe motorcycle community this
this time around. So we'll jump into it and we'll
talk right off the back. You know, you know, Tap Rock

(02:06):
came over to the USI don't know if he was looking at doctors,
looking at houses or just tryingto get comfortable with Koda,
but he got the you know, the motorcycle community talking
about what you can do on the BMW.
I hear guys and women and you know, they're going to get that
stock 1000 to come sometimes down on on some people.
But you know, we want to talk about deciding a little bit.
Well, let's talk about what top rack did over in Coda, man, Was

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that a big deal? TJ What's good, man?
I mean, yeah, I mean, I I found out late and I really think Coda
is a really nice track. I think it's one of the best
tracks, like I said last week, like you can figure out anything
on that track with any manufacturer just because of the
layout uphill, downhill, but fortop practice to come out here

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and I don't know what he's trying to prove be in shape or
see if he can tend. I don't know what it's about,
but I think he put it like a twoO 6 or something like that,
which is a pretty good time. I think Bobier put something
like that when they just went toDakota, but I just can't wait to
see him in Moto GPI mean I I feel like he already got this
season locked up. It's pretty much over for Brewer

(03:16):
again. I don't know how much hard
harder he can try, but it ain't going to happen unless Todd
Bragger was out. But but yeah, what he did out
there was pretty impressive for I don't know how many times it's
written, Conan. But.
I can't I can't wait till he gets into PC happens.
That's the other part of it. How many times has he written

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Coda, you know, over the, you know, I remember watching the
clip. I'm, I'm, I'm going to jump on
talk to Reese next. I was watching the clip with
Scott Greenwood a few years ago.He's talking about, you know,
when he first couple of laps, hewas trying to break the wheel of
other riders. So they don't even want to come
in and make his race easier because, you know, he he pulled
out some lap times. Reese, you mean you think that

(03:59):
you know the Flack that you hearpeople complain about the BMW
and he comes out and do this. Is he tired to tell people like
just shut up and ride? Like you know that that's
serious on on a stock 1000? I mean, it's serious on a stock
1000, and you gotta also think he's on Pirelli tires.
You know, the tires do make a hell of a difference.

(04:20):
People don't think so, but tiresdo make a hell of a difference.
I mean, Jake was at AA74 on USA stock on US spec Dunlop tires.
So I mean Michael. Jordan got to be the shoes.
Got to be the shoes. On this one, I mean, it is Top
Rank. Top Rank is is the guy you know,

(04:42):
if you know, so he makes BMW look great.
I mean, because, you know, I've had, I mean, there was some
couple of guys out on, on on Instagram telling me that the
BMW is a great and giving me this, but I'm like, if it wasn't
for top rack, where are we at with BMW?
Like I had to go back into the record books and it's like I I

(05:04):
can't pull nothing up. So I mean, and I talked to a
couple guys there like BMW is a great street bike.
You know, they're still trying to develop it as a pure, pure
race bike. So I mean, but what he had done
on a bike is next to phenomenal.I mean, the guy is the last last
person to come up as an alien that can do pretty much

(05:25):
anything. Yeah, shout out to those fans,
man. We really appreciate all the
comments. We're doing something good over
here to be forever Cool podcast.We've got people talking that
would normally normally talk, but we're going to leave the you
know, not to say the best for last or miss the numbers guy.
What do you talk? You know, I know you have a
different take on the stock 1000, so I'm going to let you

(05:45):
have you a piece man. What's?
Good. Well, let's start by saying
stock 1000 does not mean stock from the showroom 1000.
Right. It means a stock 1000 race bike,
similar to the race bike that Orange Cat team is using in the
stock 1000 series in Motor America.

(06:05):
You know this this this bike hadalpha racing parts in it.
This is not a stock showroom bike, so let's start with that
there. All right now the first thing I
got to say is is Top Rank is absolutely the last guy that you
want to see at the track in a race because there's a reason
why he's a reigning world champion and why there's only

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one other guy in World Super bike that he can can even smell
his exhaust. If Nicola Buliga wasn't racing
in World Super Bike this year, Top Rack would run away with the
series because nobody else is touching it.
So right off the bat, Top Rack is going to come with plus 3
seconds in his pocket. To anybody that's racing in the
US on the same bike, you know, that's just what he is, man.

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And then again, as Reese was saying, then you add the Pirelli
factor and I know there's a lot of ball riders out there that
are like, oh, you know, tires, tires, tires make a difference.
Don't sleep on tires. The only reason bikes can do
what they can do today is because the tires have evolved
to allow them to do what they can do today.

(07:11):
Take a 26 Moto GP Ducati and putit on a set of 22,000 and five
Michelins. It won't do the times that it's
doing today. Tires evolve and tires allow
bikes to evolve because you can get more out of the bike onto
the track through the tires. Last time I checked, I haven't

(07:33):
seen a bike riding around in rims doing much.
The tires that were put the power to the ground, they put
the inputs to the ground, they make the bike turn, they make
the bike stop and everything else.
And Pirelli is absolutely a superior tire to the Dunlops
that are being used in the US today.
With that said on Dunlops top rack would still go 3 seconds

(07:55):
faster than anybody else in the US.
I'm sorry, but he would also crash his brains out especially
if it was on the tires that motor America's using.
And Reese, you can you can confirm with this, Dunlop has
not made a tire in the US in over a year now.
Their factory closed. They're still giving tires and
selling tires that were made over a year ago, sometimes two

(08:18):
years ago. So if you go around the Motor
America paddock, if you don't see a Dunlop tire that was made
outside the country, that shit has an expiration date.
And it's not within the last year.
Like there's tires out there in Motor America that say built in
22, built in 23. You know, when Pirelli went to

(08:40):
Moto 2 and Moto 3, all of a sudden all the Moto 2 and Moto 3
times went a second, a second and a quarter or a second and a
half faster. Same tracks, same bikes as last
year, same riders as last year, but they're going a second
faster. Why?
Because the year before they were on Dunlaps, and this year
they're on Pirelli's. Why do you see so many Moto 2

(09:01):
and Moto 3 lap records falling left and right?
Tires make a difference. I'm not saying Pirelli is the
greatest tire ever made, but it's definitely at the very tip
of the spear, man, you know? And it's definitely at the very
tip of the spear. If you look at Moto America and
you look at the Super Bike Times, there's Super Bikes is
still running the US spec Dunloptire.

(09:25):
This is the last year that they're running the US spec
tire. If you look at Super Sport, go
look at the times from last yearto this year.
Why? Because they're running the
Japan spec tire. Now only Super Sport is running
the tire. OK, so.
So for all the Internet engineers, tires make a

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difference. Not to be confused with the
other I triple E. Tires make a massive difference
and and again, there's a lot of great tire companies out there,
but at the very top, people really do have to give the
flowers to Pirelli because anytime they step into a series,
that series goes faster, it doesn't go slower.

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And, and I really want to see what they're going to do when
they step into Moto GP, because I don't think they're going to
come with a tire that has the issues that they're currently
having now. I think they're going to try to
resolve the tire pressure issuesso they can get rid of that.
I think they're going to give them a compound that all the
riders are going to like. I mean, they've been making
bikes go fast for a very long time in world Super bike.

(10:34):
And if they can take that technology and bring it over, I
think you just going to see guyspushing the limits even further
and the bikes going even faster.And you know, again, top rack
would still, I hate to say it, Imean, he would wipe the floor
with anybody in the US because he's top rack.
It's the same way as Mark Marquez if he came here.
And like, yeah, I'm going to race this weekend in more

(10:55):
America. Just stay in your pit, bro.
I'm going to save all my money from this weekend.
I'm not even going to that trackbecause there's certain guys,
I'm sorry, but there's certain guys that that the level of
talent and the level of what they can do is just that next
three or four runs higher than anybody else can seem to get to.

(11:17):
Like there's, you know, there's natural talent that you can't
teach. You can't learn it.
You can't no matter how many laps you do, this guy can just
do that extra one or two things that nobody else can do, man.
And I mean, when I saw that lap time, I was like, man, that dude
is for lying. Lying, Lying 264A6 Four.
Jesus Christ. You know, I don't, I don't know

(11:38):
if you guys saw the the interview with Johnny Ray and
Tap Rock and your boy Alec closeon that podcast, but it seems
like top Rock gave Johnny Jonathan Ray a lot of credit in
learning how to become a champion, learning how to push

(11:59):
when even your bike, you know, is it moves like a tractor and
stuff like that. So I don't know if you guys saw
that and with your thoughts on that before we move on.
And also, you know, is this enough to kind of say mode
America has to do more for next season, Although sounds like
they're going to be going with the the European compound
version of. The Japanese compound.

(12:19):
Japanese. Yeah, I saw a little bit of that
interview. I didn't catch the whole thing.
I actually want to. I've downloaded it so I can
listen to it tomorrow since I'llbe on the road for several
hours. But it's if there's one thing
that I've always seen consistently in every interview,
the top racks ever done is he has a joyfulness to him.

(12:41):
Like, I don't think I've ever seen a racer enjoy being on a
motorcycle more. You know, like the the the Oh,
by the way, this is the only stunter I know that actually
knows how to ride a bike. Right, he is sorry.
Sorry to disappoint everybody that's doing wheelies for a
mile. This is the only guy that could
do wheelie for a mile. I'll stop you for a mile but
then also blow the doors off youon the track.

(13:03):
But this dude legitimately lovesbeing on a motorcycle and he has
a humility to him and a humbleness to him where it, you
know, it doesn't hurt him to give people props, which is very
rare when you're at the top echelon of of a competition
sport like this. You typically don't give other
people their, their, their, their just desserts or, or give

(13:25):
them credit. And when I heard him talking
about that Ray, I mean, you know, Ray's not hasn't done well
the last couple years, but this guy has won a multitude of
championships. In a row.
In a row, yeah. Not in between losing a race
here and there like 6 or seven in a row out of Kawasaki.
That race is nowhere else in theworld.

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Right, As Sam Lowe said, you know, I couldn't ride that bike.
And this guy is, you know, fighting for the podium.
I'm. I'm like sixth or fifth, yeah.
So again, top, you know, before the new wave of younger riders
come like Ray was the benchmark.So for him to say, you know what
Ray kind of and again top rack was it on a Kawasaki in super
sports. So he was part of the Kawasaki

(14:09):
team. So he probably did get a lot of
input from Ray. And Super bike, he was on Super,
Super bike. Yeah, yeah, we switched.
But but again, like that's I think that's a really important
part of being a champion is honoring and respecting and
looking at what the Champions before you did and the legacy
they put in place. And then you try to add to that

(14:30):
legacy with your own name and with what you do.
And then hopefully, you know, atsome point, Top Rack pays it
down, pays it forward and hopes a future champion, you know,
kind of find his way and get to that same points.
Yeah. I love seeing that stuff, man.
That's the kind of thing that weneed more of a in the sport, to
be honest with you. No doubt, no doubt.
And before we praise Yamaha and the FIM endorse series, Reese or

(14:53):
TJ got anything to add about TopRock, Johnny Ray and and that
section and also just him, you know, is his last season
Jonathan Ray. I mean, I definitely want to
like Lewis and I want to download that and and watch it
myself because that didn't I really see much about it.
But yeah, Top Rock is a cool guy.

(15:13):
He's very humble. I mean, and it's just, it's just
good to see what he's doing. Jonathan Ray is just, he's just
a legend as well, you know, and his own right for winning all
those titles and stuff like that.
So you got to pay respect to theto the and stuff like that.
So but yeah, I definitely want to see, but I also want to know

(15:34):
like how top track, I want to know who else was at this track
with top track really Because I told her because the same like
it was just him. No, it was Nate, Nate Kern, the
Orange Cat Racing guys. I mean there were some amateur
racers and stuff like that. Like it was it was a a full on
like BMW event, but there was some other.

(15:54):
How was that crazy? Like Andrew Lee was there, Jason
Uribe was there and a couple of others, but even those guys,
they were on the track with him.They were like, hey bro, this
guy's this guy's the truth, man,this guy's the truth.
That's. Pretty cool though, you know,
it's just just a track that you probably just end up adding or,
or paid good money to go to to to race with those good guys and

(16:15):
and top tracks. I mean it, the one thing that it
kind of does hurt is like after seeing him at CODA, man, I would
I would wish World Super Bike would come back to the US and do
a round in the US. Yeah, man, it definitely didn't
throw that on the calendar. Yeah, Laguna Seca.
You know, even if it's going back to Laguna Seca, go
something like we got to get a World Super Bike round in the

(16:38):
US. We can't just have one Moto GP
round and nothing else. I I completely agree, Reece
before you, you know, you switchcameras.
I hit the wrong button. I mean, you guys are taking
notice over there, you know, in,in Yamaha camp or what he's

(16:58):
doing. I mean, you always take notice
to what Top Rack's doing. I mean, Top Rack is like, he's
just an anomaly. He's an alien, but he's a very
humble guy. You know, he like Lewis said, he
loves the ride. He he loves doing what he does.
And he actually gives praise to the guys that paved the way for

(17:19):
him. And he's he's one of, like you
said, he's one of the only stuntriders that you can see actually
blow the doors off you and just blow by you like like you're
standing still. But he's a very humble guy.
And he's just, he loves doing what he does.
So, I mean, you have to give youhave to give credit to that
because he he understands, Hey, this person has done what's

(17:40):
Johnny Ray was six in a row, so 6.
Or seven? Yeah.
Like he understands that and that's not, that's not an easy
task. That's something that you can't
ride and not many people can ride.
And that's nothing that's, you know, falls short of not being
recognized. So he he recognizes that and
that's something that sets him apart from a lot of other guys.

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I I agree and and we've said it on the show already, it seems
like lately Ray doesn't get the credit like, like people are
acting like, you know, he, he, he never won a title, much less
six in a row to be the only guy to do it and stuff like that.
It hopefully as as time goes on,more people recognize that.
But Speaking of recognizing stuff, look, I didn't really

(18:23):
notice what's going on either. The FM I FM FIM endurance world
championship. This is a big deal.
Yamaha looks like they they still won, you know, what are
your thoughts on the endurance series, the championship?
You know, 8 hours for most of the racetrack, but 24 hours for
Le Mans on a bike headlights yougot you got flashing things on

(18:47):
your body if you crash because it gets dark, you know, you know
that kind of thing. What do you guys thoughts on
endurance racing and should we have more of it?
And we have it in, you know, theAzra series and the Wherewa
series and stuff like that. I've, I've participated in, in
one of the endurance, you know, a couple of three hours, a
couple of five hours. I, I, I think it's, you know,

(19:08):
it, it kind of shows you who youare as it tells you the truth
about yourself. I kind of thing.
What are you guys thoughts on the, the, the the series and,
and the weekend that just happened?
We'll start with TJ. I mean, yeah, it's it's it's
unfortunately I didn't see like the whole race or anything like
that. I just saw Eclipse.

(19:29):
But overall I think endurance racing is really cool.
Definitely got to be in shape and and mentally ready for that.
8 hours is a very long time and Lamar's 24 hours is just insane.
But I think it like we were talking earlier, it should be
like market a little more because they don't really know
about it. It it seems like it is a series

(19:51):
that goes on and we just caught the the last round of it.
But just to see Vice in a different aspect, like, you
know, you don't think Vice can race that night.
You know, like what precautions do you take right at night?
Do you do you turn it down from like?
You know, mapping 3 to mapping two or something like that.

(20:11):
Like take down the RPS a little bit or extra lights.
What do you think? I take advice.
From all the all the all. The riders, they got all the
lights on their bikes in the city, you know, So I mean, and
then it's just pretty cool to see though.
So I think it it should bring more attention to it.
So definitely next year going into the series, I'm going to

(20:34):
definitely, you know, watch it with the mods first.
It seems like it usually is. And for some reason Suzuki is
the biggest one, which I we weretalking about, I thought was the
only one as well. But like we was talking about
there's a whole series. So it was really cool.
Right. Reese, what are your thoughts?
You know your guys ever think about going to go do some of
these endurance races? No, you got to be in shape for

(20:59):
that, man. You got to be mentally prepared,
physically prepared. I mean, that's that's a lot. 24
hours and 8 hours. I mean, I don't know if
anybody's riding a bike for 8 hours, but that's a lot.
I've ridden behind Lewis for about an hour and I was dead.
So it's not, it's not something easy.

(21:21):
I mean, I didn't get a chance tosee the four AI saw a couple of
it, bits of it, but I think it'spretty neat.
You know, like you, like I said,I need to advertise a little bit
more, you know, and make it a little bit more public so we all
can. A lot of people can watch it
more and bring it, bring it moreto the forefront instead of just
kind of talking about it. But I think it'd be nice to

(21:42):
actually go see it personally, me and myself, you know, I
think. You know, I don't know if you
saw the clip where one guy's bike, he crashed and the bike
caught on fire. And I mean, the bike is like a
like a like a barn fire and he'srunning to the bike like he can
get on for a second. Like, you know, what is that
with riders? Are they just in in a different

(22:02):
space that they don't like see like there's a big ball of flame
they run into? Well, no, they do see it, but
their, their, their mindset is like, Hey, if I can get it back
to the pit, at least ride it back to the pit and get it
fixed. Like if there's a red flag, I
can get back in the race. You know, that's their mindset.
Always get that bike back to us to get it fixed to get it so we
can get, you know, they can get back in the race just in case

(22:25):
there is a red flag. And normally sometimes, a lot of
times if they crash bad or anything like that, they're
going to red flag it. But if they can ride it back on
their own power, they can actually, you know, repeat.
That's that's, that's one repairjob right there, Lewis.
Ask you just off. Ask yourself here, because I

(22:45):
didn't notice until the crash that you know the guy, the
writers, their their suit light up and stuff like that.
Can you talk a little bit about that and and also what your
thoughts on the race? Yeah.
Well, the technology, well, whenyou're doing endurance racing
specifically, and it's enduranceracing that you got to, you got
to consider the weather becomes a factor in endurance racing

(23:07):
over the long stretch. So you might start, it's sunny
and 45 minutes in, it starts to rain, it gets dark, it gets
cloudy. If you're racing overnight, like
in the Le Mans 24 Hour, you're racing overnight and a lot of
these tracks aren't equipped with lights.
So the only light you have are with the few lights that are on
the track and the lights that are on your bike.
So in the event you crash, you want some way to be seen.

(23:29):
Because if you crash in the middle of the darkness and
somebody's coming around the theturn behind you at full pop and
they didn't see you crash and you're laying on the track, you
become a speed bump. So you know, we used to have a
suit that actually had an LED onthe back of the hump and if you
crash and the airbag went off, the LED would start blinking.
So that way people can kind of see that you're on the ground or

(23:50):
something like that. But in these particular races
where they're going overnights and they have weather
conditions, a lot of them do have little LED pieces that they
put on their suits and so forth.So in the event they crash, they
do start to blink. Some of them actually stay on
the entire race or they turn them on and they do all the laps
with the light on so that they can just be seen.
Because you got to think in an 8hour endurance race it it's

(24:14):
going to show you what you're made of.
Like I like to equate it to kindof what Habib Namaganera from
MMA said one time. He says he takes people into
deep waters and they find out who they really are.
And that's what endurance racingdoes.
Endurance racing takes you into deep waters and you get to find
out what you're made of. Are you going to make the 8

(24:36):
hours? Are you going to make this 24
hours? Are you going to be able to
rotate with one or two other guys?
Because I think some of these teams are usually three riders,
sometimes they're two riders. But think about it, 2 riders
over 24 hours, you're talking about you're going to split 12
hours riding between each other.So you're going to have at least
like a 45 to one hour stint in between.

(24:56):
And you're still going to have some pit stops in between
because you got to change tires,you got to refuel.
I mean, you really do go into some deep waters and you find
out what you're made of, man, your steel is different.
Plus it, it also engages the rest of the team.
Because if you think about a normal race, the team preps your
bike, you go and they sit back and they hope everything they
did works, but it's on you now with pit stops, you know, the

(25:19):
team actually becomes a very important part of just the
overall race itself, not just sitting back and see what
happens, but now they're actually involved in the race.
I've always said I would like tosee a couple of more rounds in
the US that are kind of like Daytona, where pit stops are
required because the length of the race is so long.
Even if we just do it maybe at one or two tracks, I think it

(25:41):
would be that extra bit of like enjoyment and entertainment as a
spectator sport. Like if we took the the Coda
race for instance, and took it from 22 laps and put it up to 50
laps. That would be dope.
Let's make. You're trying to make us.
You're trying to make us cost more money, man.
Let's, hey, let's and all right,we won't have two races this

(26:03):
weekend, but we're going to haveone long ass race this weekend.
It's still the same amount of money as you would with two
races, except now it's all happening over the next two
hours. We're going to see what team,
what bike and what rider is going to be able to to to pull
it off because there ain't goingto be no chubby riders left,
man. These guys are going to have to
get on their bikes and make surethey're in shape because you.

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Have to get rid of those quartermile mechanics and get these
diesel mechanics to be survive 8hours.
I mean, that's a, that's a really different bike than a
than a super bike. You add in a pit stop, you add
in, you know, a tire change, youdo all these things and now, at
least for those one or two rounds, you got these extra
couple elements. It's one of the reasons I love

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Daytona. I only love Daytona because of
the pit stops because now there's a whole different
element that you have to take into account and, and it just
you know, it's, it's a differentlevel of excitement, man.
You know, a guy could have a good pit stop and all of a
sudden gained 3 or 4 spaces or aguy that was walking away with
that could have a shit pit stop and all of a sudden, you know,

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the gaps are all gone and now you got to start fighting again.
You can't just walk away and it's a parade for the next 1214
laps. No, no, no, it's a race man.
It's a race till the checkered flag comes out.
Yeah, no, I, I listen. I I did it once and I hope to do
some more so you know I have a sign up list guys let me know if
you go. Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. You want to talk that crap, now
you go out there. I got a question though.
Why isn't Daytona a part of the Motor America Series?
I mean, I know it's like a classic.
Oh, OK. Next year, so next year will be.
Starting next year, the points, actually there will be points

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that count towards a championship because this is one
of the reasons a lot of the teams haven't been going to
Daytona because it's very expensive to go and the points
didn't count for the championship.
It's very expensive. Two bricks.
I mean, dude, just renting one room in Daytona for four days,
you're talking thousands of dollars.
So if you got a pit crew of like10 people, mechanics, everything

(28:11):
else plus your racers just in hotels, you're going to spend at
least 30 grand. Most of the teams actually rent
big Airbnb's and Reese. You can you can confirm like
most of the teams try to find like 5 or 6 bedroom or three or
four bedroom houses and rent theAirbnb and everybody sleeps in
the same house because just to try to keep the cost down
because a hotel room in Daytona during that stretch.

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You talking between 3:00 and $600 a night?
Yeah, and then you got to think about it.
This is another thing that people don't realize and
everybody gets pissed. But Daytona, those bikes get
used one time for the year. That's it.
That's it. You make one bike for one race,
that's it. That bike sits in the garage for
the rest of the time. So you spent about $60,000 on

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just one bike for one race? Cerise, tell us how you really
feel about the the news coming out.
I ain't got nothing to worry about.
Supermarket there, I'm good, I'mgood.
I'll be over there like hey how y'all doing so?
I'm just, I'm just glad that I'mgoing to have like a hospitality

(29:17):
suite that I can go eat their food now because.
Well, see, now he has a hospitality suite, so that just
told me I'm only 30 minutes downthe way, so I'm coming to the
hospitality suite. No, I was talking about yours.
I was going to go eat an attack.Are are you guys not thinking
about running the 200 because ofthat?
I mean, or is it just the the Super sport folks need to worry

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about that? That's just super sport.
It's just like when you're when you're.
So noun. That is part of the points.
It's kind of hard for like just us to just jump in and just do
one round because it's part of the points.
It doesn't count for us, but then it actually counts for the
Super sport guys. And you know, you got your guys
getting ready for the Super bike, They're getting ready for
the Super bike series, they're getting ready for coming up,

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what the first round is, what Barber again or Atlanta.
So they're getting ready for, you know, we're doing testing
and prep and getting ready for that, you know, so it's kind of
not pointless for us to go. Right now I, I say, I hear you
say it's one bike, but is it really just a, a whole bike?
It's not just the engine, not just the tranny, Is it literally
just chassis? Everything is is just for that.

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One bike, that's it. You can't use the same bar.
Bar handles nothing. It's got to be a different.
Literally, literally, the bike that we ran at Daytona 200, it's
still sitting in the shop. It still sits there.
Wow. Why though?
Why? Because it's just too much to
like transfer or it's just what's required at Daytona.

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It's just too much. So you got suspension, you got
tires that certain. You only can run those tires
that don't like getting you at Daytona.
Then you have a bigger gas tank.You got a bigger gas tank, you
know what I mean? You got that, you got
everything. It's just everything.
Certain pieces on that bike are set up for like a quick change
when we got to do the the tire change, it's certain things are

(31:08):
set up on there for that. So once you're done with it,
what we're going to use that bike for.
'Cause you're just going to sit out bike like Top Rock.
Yeah, sure. I.
Mean, that makes sense. I mean, and Derrick is set up
for our endurance, so pretty much so.
It's just, it's just a lot if you, there's a interview when I

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think it was on Instagram that Richie from Ray Hall put out and
he was saying how much it's going to cost them to do, you
know, for the Daytona 200. Yeah, I think it was like 6080
grand just in one bike. So imagine you got 2 riders.
There's, you know, 160,000 rightthere.
You just spent, that's just on the bikes now.

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You still got to bring your riders in.
You still got to, you know, you may not have to house them.
They can house themselves or then you still got to bring your
crew in. You still got to house, you
know, make sure they have a room.
You still got to, you know, pay for their flights.
You still got to pay for their food, their lunch while they're
there. What's the next town over?
I'm just sleeping the next town over.
I mean, the next town over is just expensive in Daytona

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because remember, it happens during bike week.
Yeah, yeah. True.
Yeah, I was going to say this too.
So I mean, when, as I know, I, Ididn't mean to show to go this
route, but we might as well talkabout it when Azra was running
the series, you could just show up on a bike and race it, you
know what I'm saying? And now you're looking at these

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numbers is, you know, is it goodfor Daytona?
Are we going to see fewer riders?
Because, you know, listen, man, we talk about sun and people
and, and what Top Rock did or, or, you know, stop by Scott
Greenwood trying to break people's will.
When people hear that, you know,these teams are spending 120 and
you know, dudes looking like I got, I got 8 grand.

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Like, why am I going to go as, as one of these writers who's
really fast? But you know how you how do you
compete with that? I mean, you want me to answer?
I'll answer that. It's just like, OK, so you take
the NBA, right? You got the top players.
What are they spending on? Nutrition, training, everything

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else. They're the top guys for a
reason, right? You're not running a charity
case, you're running, you're in the pros.
This is what it is. This is what you got to do,
right? You're not here to the pros are
here to win, to separate the, you know, the the amateurs or
the club rider, right? They're, they're there.
It's the same thing what they'redoing in the stock 1000 class.
You know, people complaining, but you're here to win, you're

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here to compete. You're in the pro series for a
reason. You're not here in the club
series. So you want to step up into the
pro series. Now this is what you got to
compete with. You know, it's this is this is
the the nature of the beast. You're in the pros.
They're not in the club series no more.
And then you get people that want to complain about it.
But then when it goes away, you're like, oh, well, it went

(34:00):
away. Racing went away.
Well, it was just a club race. You can do that anywhere, right.
So this is the pros. The Daytona 200 isn't anywhere.
It's not anywhere, but it's the pros running it now, right?
You everybody got mad when the pros weren't there, so now the
pros are here. So it's either hey, you got to
step up or hey, here's the benchright here for you.

(34:24):
Watch. Take a seat and watch.
And here, Dion Sanders tell it, you can't learn anything from
the bench. It's sad to say man, so.
All right, let's talk about thisweekend in in the Motor America
Jersey. The last round, I wish I was
there. All you 3 guys are going to be

(34:45):
there. I think Reese is probably going
to lose the most weight, you know what I'm saying?
But let's talk about Jersey. We'll hear from TJ and and Lewis
and then we'll talk to Reese. I think it's your second year
going, TJ. So what does like Jersey mean
for you? And checking out Motor America

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and kind of I know who your guy is, are we all know who your guy
is. So we don't have to necessarily.
We already know who you want to win so.
Who is it? Who is it?
Right. What are you talking about?
Come on man, is not. Your guy.
Oh, God, yeah. Don't do that to me right now.

(35:26):
Don't. Do that.
Don't do that to me in front of recent.
We got. We got people that listen to the
show. Yeah, the big.
Heron fans that listen man, no, no, no, I'm a, I'm a like I
said, I'm a Josh Heron fan before I got into racing like

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that was my guy and I actually went to a Ducati event, was on
the track with them. So like, and I had conversations
with them. He used my toolbox and all that
good stuff. So I had a little site, you
know, talk with him and stuff like that.
But he. He stole your time, didn't he?
No. No.
You. Know, I don't know what he was

(36:09):
using actually he was trying to install a camera onto his bike
and. He needed some.
Yeah, so, but anyway, but yeah, I definitely like to root for,
you know, Yamaha as well. Bobby Foley's been doing really
well. Like he surprised me from the
time he joined the team. Like I didn't expect him to be
runner, you know, in the league of the championship.

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So so I'm definitely going to beruined for Bobby falling for
one. But you know, Josh Herman at the
end of the day is my guy. So like, I know how hard he's
going to try. And like he said, all the
excuses he's going to give to the story that's going on.
He doesn't want to lose his number one plate.
So like he's going to do whatever he can to try to
survive throughout the season. So it's going to be 3 races this

(36:53):
weekend. It's going to be interesting.
But you know, Ducati or Yamaha, that's what I'm going for it.
But I'm Bobby pulls it out the shows.
All right, all right, balance answer, man, I'm a big fan of
the Jersey track. I'm not going to lie, when I
first got there, it was it was weird for me and doing enough
races on it. I'm a really big fan of that
track. It should be a fun and

(37:15):
entertaining time. What are your thoughts, Lewis?
I know you're kind of, we don't want to tell anybody you're
going to be working, but you're going to be working I'm.
Going to be working. I usually when I, I, I, I watch
the races, but in between, like I'm pretty much working.
I mean, Bobby's my boy, obviously.
So, you know, I want him to win.Bobby's been in the series for a

(37:35):
long time and I've known Bobby way longer than I should, to be
honest with you. And, and you know, I, I've seen
him struggle. I've seen his hard times trying
to get rise, trying to, you know, be competitive and
everything. And last year he had a really
great opportunity with the wrench team and he really showed
that. He rededicated himself to the

(37:56):
sport and and show some, you know, some real flashes of
brilliance last year and he was lucky enough to get the ride
this year with Yamaha. And you know, he knows that or
he knew at the beginning of the year like it was a one year
deal. So he just had to kind of come
into the series in the best shape that he's ever been in and

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focus everything he can. And and that's what he did, man.
I mean, you know, during the offseason he worked out
constantly. Every day he worked out.
I mean, he lost, I want to say he lost about 18 lbs during the
offseason. Like he trimmed down, he got in
great shape. Like he really dedicated his
life to this man. And it would be great if he can,

(38:40):
if he can pull this one out man.But if he can't, I mean, the
other person that I'm really happy for is is Cameron
Beaulier, because the last couple of years, I mean, Cameron
Beaubieu is a multi time US champion.
He went to Moto 2 and he had a wretched time in Moto 2.
He never really was able to put anything together.
Then he came back here and you know, he's not on what you would

(39:02):
consider the best equipment. I mean, everybody thinks that
BMW is great. The BMW is great, but you know,
you can hear from the people that ride it.
It's also a hard bike to ride, man.
The bike is not an easy bike to ride.
And he's had a couple of hard years with a lot of injuries.
So if he was able to pull it outalso and Bobby didn't, I'd still
be happy for him too. Because you know, these two

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guys, I've known them in a long time.
I've talked to them a lot and you know, they're both in it for
the love of the game. And you know, neither one of
them has any guarantees for nextyear.
Neither one of them knows where,where they're riding next year
or even if they're riding at this point, even going into the
last round. So both of them are going to be,
you know, really trying to put it all out there.

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And the thing with both of them is if you watch them race, even
at CODA, even when the two of them were dicing it up, they
were real clean about it, man. They weren't trying to push each
other off the track or do anything sketchy to each other.
Like they had this mutual respect in the way that they
raced each other. They raced hard, but they raced
clean. And that's what I want to see,
man. If these two guys can get out
front and really race each otherhard and clean, you you know

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Jersey is not a high speed track.
So horsepower is not the end alland be all.
So the BMW is not just going to be able to get on the throttle
and pull away. It's a technique track, it's a
style track, it's a technical track and it doesn't have a lot
of passing areas. So you got to be super clean
because if you don't pass clean,I mean, you will take yourself

(40:28):
out as well as somebody else. So it's going to be really great
to just, you know, some people don't like Jersey at the end of
the year because the weather always sucks.
Knock on wood. It looks like it's going to hold
out this year and I hope that weget a great, you know, 3 races,
man, there's three races this weekend, right, right.
So it's not just, you know, Saturday and Sunday, there's

(40:50):
like a third race that if the points are still there,
literally we can have three nailbiting one after the other races
throughout the weekend. And I'm looking forward to it,
man, I'm, I'm hoping, I'm hopingmy boy comes in, it comes
through because like, I know howmuch it means to him, man, you
know, I talk to him almost everyday and I just know how much

(41:12):
it'll mean to him. No, I, I I can only imagine.
And Reese, you probably know it better than all of us.
You know, I'm trying to think ofa basketball analogy.
I think of like, you know, the Spurs and, you know, Kawhi
winning young and then going to Toronto and nobody thought like
he would have got anything wouldhave happened in Toronto and he

(41:32):
got one in Toronto. I mean, this is, you know, this
is, you know, this is, I don't want to say it's a fairy tale,
but you know, you know, dreamers, you know, they, they,
they, they get their chance. And you know, you guys saw
something in them, signed them. And I, I can't imagine any of
you guys. And if you did say it, and I

(41:52):
don't know if you can say it on air, might have joked about it,
but like, hey, this guy is goingto be competing for the
championship at the end of the season when you signed them.
But like now you are a you know,he's leading the points.
You know, it can we will find out this weekend.
But what are your thoughts on how he's doing?
You know, when you signed him, when you guys signed him to

(42:15):
where he is now? And and can you guys believe it
was it Like, you know, you just knew this.
I mean, you did talk about it, but you kind of have to talk
about it, right? You can't you can't sit here and
get on air and be like, yeah, we're not going to make it this
year. You got to lie to yourself
before you start seeing it, right?
Because I have to do it. You know, it's like, you know
what I mean? I'm saying here reaching out to

(42:35):
Lewis like, hey, yeah, you want to come on the show a year ago
and, and, and, you know, now, now look at us now.
So, you know, you know, life is about dreaming.
So you know what? What are your thoughts, Reese?
I mean, you got to look at last year, you got to look at the
year Bobby had on a wrench team.I mean, you knew signing him
that he was going to be one of the top contenders coming in.
I mean that he did some things on that R1 that nobody else was

(42:58):
doing. Our guys were hurt, you know,
Jake and and Cam P was was hurt or and then Jake stepped away to
get his, you know, stuff, you know, repaired and we had our
substitutions. But knowing him coming in and
when we signed him, we knew he could compete for the top spot
and the top guys. A lot of people, a lot of teams

(43:20):
had us, you know, checked out saying, you know, we're not
going to win. So for us to be here, we're just
we're we're enjoying the moment and we're going to go for it as
as best we can. You know, we always know that
we're going to compete and we come every weekend to compete.
You know, we don't, we don't, wedon't bring nothing a week and

(43:41):
we, we bring everything we got and say, hey, let's go.
And you know, we let's make the R1 great again.
You guys don't bring any Team Wuchains with you.
No, I don't bring the Team Wu chains.
Yeah, we don't need that. Bring the good.
Stuff breaking. Not nothing, but the good stuff.

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So you know, what is the mood like Reese man, for this
weekend? As much as you can give out.
Obviously weather may play a bigpart.
I haven't checked the satellite to see if there's going to be
any rain and stuff like that. But is it business as usual or
is it kind of, it depends after the first practice and see what
people's times are and stuff like that and then you know, the

(44:23):
game plan happens from there? No, as it goes in as business as
usual. I mean, if it rains, it rains.
I mean that R1 in the in the wetis one of the most dominant
bikes in the wet. And I mean rich is going to make
you a wet specialist. I mean, he in that bike in the
wet is is phenomenal. Bobby used to didn't like the
wet. Now he doesn't mind the wet, you

(44:45):
know, so we we were come in business usual.
If it's rain or shine, that's that's just go.
Right Lewis who who's taking it?You know, we we we you know TJ
got Heron is is your money on? I mean, you have, I guess you
got to say Bobby, you can't say I.

(45:06):
Got yeah, I got to say Bobby, man, like, you know, I have to
put all my chips in on Bobby because again, man, three years
ago, Bobby wasn't even racing, man, you know, And then he got
an opportunity to race a couple of baggers to make some quick
money doing the dash for cash and things like that.
And that kind of evolved into doing more baggers the following

(45:26):
year. And that kind of evolved into
him getting the wrench ride. And so, you know, the past 3-4
years for Bobby, I mean, unemployed, employed,
unemployed, you know, racing a bagger hoping to win 5000 bucks
so he can, you know, pay some bills.
Like he's, he's had a real tumultuous last few years and,

(45:47):
and, and, and dude, I mean, thisis, this is his, his
opportunity. I mean, you know, you don't get
too many bites of the carrot at this age.
I had to say, you know, Bobby's in his 30s and you know, in your
30s, you don't get a ton of bites in the carrots with a lot
of young kids coming up. So I really hope he pulls it
out, man. I hope everything comes together

(46:08):
and you know, he, he's able to do it, man.
Hey drinks and drinks on TJ. We win too.
I got you, I got you. I'll be there till the last race
and I'll see what happens. No doubt and I I want to shout
out to Nathan Bettencourt and I hope he does well.
He had a giveaway last night forsome tickets and be forever cool

(46:32):
one. I was able to donate those
tickets to TJ and he's going to show up and and stuff like that.
I mean, hopefully we'll we'll have him on the show in the near
future. He's a young and up and coming
before we get into Moto GP. Speaking of young and up and
coming, Donna CEO has on social media is if it's to be believed,

(46:54):
he wants more people in Moto GP other than the Italians in the
Spaniards. What are you guys thoughts on
that? Because I'm thinking some
Jamaicans already. Yeah, my side of the team, the
the side of the team, but no, like, yeah, I mean, it needs to
be diverse more, you know, it was just just, I don't know, I

(47:17):
just feel like it should be morediverse.
And obviously you have to be up to speed and, and be competitive
because like, you know, if you, if you're not fast enough, you
can't be out there. But, you know, develop A-Team
and and make it more diverse. Well, it's good to hear and say
that. And then not, not to cut off
real quick, but yeah, I was going to North America anyway.

(47:41):
But I appreciate that in court, like we get those tickets.
So I appreciate your rights for that.
That's what's up, that's what's up.
What are your what are your thoughts, Reese on on on that?
I mean, is it is lip service because like TJS say, man, you
got it. You got to have the pace.
You can't. I mean, it's, it's, you know,
there's some things in life thatyou can show up and, and maybe
not be, you know, good at, you know, like maybe making coffee

(48:04):
and burgers, but you know, it like there's a lot more that
goes behind being good enough tocompete at that level.
A Stanka, you're dead, man. We might have a team, but I
mean, there is a lot more than just to, you know, just to

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showing up and race. I mean you got to have pace.
You got to have, you know, the, the, the right crew behind you,
you know, the people you could trust.
I mean, because, you know, at the end of the day, the the
riders are just riders. They're just there.
You know, they're, they're entrusting their team to put the
bike together, the guys that have this bike ready for them
and not kill them, you know, so they're entrusting those guys

(48:48):
that have this bike up and running just like our guys are.
So I mean, there's a lot more just to show up.
So I mean, there's a lot of fastguys out here.
But at the end of the day, it's I look at it like just as any
sport, you know, we could be outhere working, they're out there
just practicing doing what they got to do.
So you got to put the time and effort and then put the work and

(49:10):
pave your way and pay a little bit to get that practice in and
just go forward. Just put all put all your money
and chips in one basket and say,hey, we're going to try this
out. You're listening man, all the
yachties out there that think y'all fast it's a hard time.
Cool runnings. You want to kiss my egg, man?
I think it's a great notion, butyou know, it's, it's just words

(49:34):
until they until there's actual actions and until there's
actually a plan. Because the reason that the
Spaniards and the Italians dominate is because, you know,
these kids are indoctrinated into motorcycle racing at a very
young age. And there's an infrastructure in
both of those countries that nurture that talent.
You know, you can race a little pocket bike.

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There's areas for them to race pocket bikes every weekend.
There's opportunities for them to come up racing and to to kind
of grow with the sport and to evolve over time.
And, you know, this is part of the culture of those particular
countries, I mean, and several other countries in Europe, but
we don't have that here in the US.
There's no infrastructure here in the US for that kind of

(50:16):
support. I mean, we have mini GPS and we
have all these little go Kart tracks that do like mini motos
and things like that. But it, you know, it really
takes a lot of time and money. And then the other thing is, if
you look at on the inside, Dornaneeds to fix some things on the
inside as well. There's not enough manufacturers
in Moto GP, There's not enough bikes, there's not enough seats.

(50:39):
You know, there's limited opportunities even for the
riders in Moto 2 now from the countries that are all competing
in Moto 2 now, do I want to see more diversity?
Yeah, I'd like to see more people of of different colors,
different races, different backgrounds, different
countries. You know, I would like to see,
you know, you know, someone likeTop Rack is going to be a Moto

(51:00):
GP. Like that's great for the Moto
GP because this introduces Moto GP to an entire segment of the
world that has nobody to root for.
You know, you got Morbidelli that was raised in Italy, but he
has Brazilian roots. Like that's the only person from
all of South America. You're going to tell me
throughout all Mexico, South America and Central America,
there's not another talent. We have talent here in the US

(51:22):
but, you know, nobody's giving them seats.
Nobody. Nobody's giving them
opportunities. So I think if, if the Dorner
really wants to see this, there needs to be some money and some
incentive behind it. You know, maybe Dorner puts some
money where their mouth is. And hey, if you bring in a rider
from the US or you bring in a rider from one of these other

(51:45):
countries, we'll give you some sort of financial support.
We'll give you this and that, you know, we'll something to
incentivize the teams to look outside of the normal pools
where they look. Because if you're not going to
incentivize them, if they still have to pay what they have to
pay, then they're not going to take risks on people.
They're going to go where it's the easiest path, the path, the

(52:06):
least resistance and where there's a big talent pool.
They're not going to look outside of Italy and Spain and
France and so forth and so on. So that's that's my only thing
is if Dorno is really serious about this, there has to be
money behind it, not just words,because words don't mean
anything until somebody shows upwith a checkbook.
And and if you're a stunt rider out there, and if.

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You're a stunt rider. Yeah.
Start looking, man. Stop going to track.
Man, and I have something to piggyback on with Lee.
I got something to piggy on backwith Lou.
It's like, you know, he's correct.
You know, they do need some moremanufacturers out here.
But again, you know, Lou's correct and, and I tell
everybody, you know, from being on the inside, it actually a lot

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of people don't understand this,but it actually starts with us
as as consumers, as fans as anyone, It starts with us.
You want the manufacturers out there, you have to go 1.
You have to go to the race and you have to stop.
You have to stop buying bikes from second hand because if you
don't buy, yeah, bikes are expensive.

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They're a shit ton of money. We all understand that even if
you just buy the little bikes, just buy a little bike, it
doesn't matter what kind of bikeyou buy, you buy it brand new.
That's where the money comes from for the manufacturers say,
OK, let's go race. We have money to spend.
So if you don't, if you're not buying the bike, you sit there
and talk. You talk, you say I want to buy
it and you're buying it from a second hand.

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Oh, I bought this. But it's a Yamaha that does
nothing for the manufacturer. They already got their money
from the person pay for it the first time.
So you buying a second hand froma dealer or whatever, use the
money that you're buying. It is just going to the dealer
or to that person. So you have to buy new and start
getting out here and support to get the manufacturers back.

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Just sitting back talking trash and want to see it and want to
understand it. They're not going to do it.
A lot of people think that the manufacturers got money.
They don't. They ain't got the money.
That's why Cali's sitting back. I I I agree with you, buy more
new bikes because that way used bikes can be a lot cheaper.
Used bikes are just way too expensive.
I'm sorry. It is the market.
The market has changed and to, to, I found out that Cali wants

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to, to build a new one, but to build a new platform, a new
power plant, because everything is the lightweight now, the
lightweight crankshaft, the lightweight Pistons, everything.
It's going to cost them about $2,000,000 just to build a new
platform in that part. So that gives you an idea on
what money they're spending. It's just to build something for

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us to have in these streets. Yeah, yeah, that's the main
thing. A lot, a lot of a lot of our
fans, a lot of the people in this industry, a lot of fellow
riders, they don't, they don't understand that we vote with our
with our wallets. That's the that's the only vote
that we have. That's the only real say we have
is how we use our wallets and when we go out there.

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And you know, I understand if you're a new rider, you're going
to look for a used bike or something inexpensive, but a new
bike is maybe a couple of 1000 bucks more.
But it'll be your bike. You're the first owner.
You can go through that experience of building it the
way you want, learn on it and kind of evolve from there.
Used bikes are great. I mean, I've owned a bunch of

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used bikes, but I've also owned a bunch of new bikes, you know,
and, and there's got to be a little bit of a mix.
We can't just keep recycling used bikes between each other
for eternity. Because if you look at what's
happened over the past 10 years,there's been less development in
new bikes because new bike salesare not where they should be.

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The only company that is actively investing in new bike
technology over and over seems to be Ducati.
Why? Because they're selling a lot of
Ducatis. Not right now, but they have
been. But there's, they've been
selling a lot of Ducatis. And as they sell Ducatis, they
can race more, they can develop more bikes.
They can do this and that. So, you know, it's what comes

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first, the chicken or the egg. Well, without buying new bikes,
these companies aren't going to invest in our sport because
we're not investing in our sport.
So it it it's an important thing.
And, and you know, another part of that that you know, I'm
starting to see in the, you know, the meet up, bike meet up
community. I, I feel that it may be a

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little bit in track community too.
If you're a new rider and you have a bad experience, you take
that with you forever and, and, and, and, and you become this
other creature when somebody is trying to promote the sport, you
know, you're the, you're the, you're like the, the grumpy old
men on The Muppets just complaining about everything and
stuff like that. And and that's, that's, that's

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unfortunate because that that Jay's the community.
We know, we know all these things happen And but it we have
to find a way to give new ridersa better experience because
once, once they once they go sideways that they ain't coming
back and then they go tell everybody that they're, you
know, that they whatever motorcycles are not for you or

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something like that. Like I had a guy complain at me
on IG saying that, oh, there's abunch of manufacturers over in
world super bike. I'm like, there's none.
They're all factory supportive. But it's, it's that one person
that's going to go tell the nextperson that go tell this for and
it just spreads like a disease. And it's like, instead of

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sitting there doing your research and look at it or
listen to a person that's been in the industry.
I've been in the industry now since 96, it is now.
So take my advice. It's it's, it's there's a lot
that goes on that people don't see.
No doubt. And Speaking of Ducati, they
just released a new V4. What can?

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I the V4R, the V4, great, great.More money, no.
What I mean, what's money? Reese, come on, You're you're
you're in the top level of MotorAmerica.
Come on, what's money? A lot.
But you know what I that? Trophy over this weekend is
going to be more than that. I say about Ducati, listen, it's

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nice to be partners with Lambeauand Volkswagen Group, ain't it?
It is. It is.
I. Got I got some Volkswagen stock,
don't worry, because especially if if they didn't have the back
end, they would be more closer to MV Augusta or Aprilia if they
didn't have the if they didn't have the back end.

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And, and, and that's the biggestthing because where their tech
can compete with with the Japanese.
That's that's that's that's all you know, St. money.
That's exactly what it is. I mean, it's good for Ducati
that they can build a bike that sells for 50K and they can
actually sell the bike, right? That's all right.

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You know, I mean, Yamaha builds an R1M that's $24,000 and people
like what? For Yamaha, when somebody comes
out with a Ducati that's 50 grand, it's like, where do I
sign on the dotted line? It's like wait a.
Second, working in a dealership.My, I got my, I got my red
floor. I'm like dude, you could have
just got the R. But but from working in the

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dealership, I used to hear people say that a lot.
Like why would I spend 24 grand on an R1 when I can spend 24
grand and get a Ducati and be part of the elite family?
So here's here used to be my retort when I when I was P&M at
a dealership is just because youcan afford to buy something.
Doesn't mean you can. Afford to own something.

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Right. Or you can't afford the
maintenance. Exactly.
A Yamaha might be, you know, a few thousand, a Yamaha R1 M
might be a few 1000 less than this Ducati.
But when it comes to maintenance, you know, that's
when it's going to hit you. And luckily here Ducati has
evolved the technology. Before they went to the chain
driven and they were just belt driven and you had to do a

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decimal service like every so many 1000 miles.
And. It was painful.
If I read if I read right it's 24K no matter how long you have
the bike warranty. Right, 24.
So Ducati, you got to service ityear, annually or by miles no
matter what. And you got to do the decimal at

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that point at that certain mall.And that decimal service is
expensive. So I mean, you know, and a lot
of people going to put 24K on their Ducati, so you know, a lot
of service is going to be free. But let's move on to Motegi
before we get out of here. Japan.
Yes, I can't wait to go. It's one of my to bucket lists

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places to go watch Moto GP and and just appreciate the the
country as well. What are your thoughts?
I mean, history could be made asfar as Mark Marquez winning the
championship in Motegi. It sounds like it.
He's probably already consoling his brother, saying look, Alex,
I waited long enough, man, come on, man.
I, I look, man, look, man, look,look, I got to do it, you know.

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What are your thoughts? Is it, is it going to be done or
are we going to see some riders push him to the next round?
No, it's done. It's done.
I mean, at at this point of the the season, I mean, Mark's
pretty much stayed up the whole year.
You know, he hasn't gone down. I used to go down on the Honda.

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I think his brother has to. I mean, it's like a three-point
difference or something that hasto be all scored or something
like that. But we're going to see another
champion this weekend. So we're going to see a champion
Moto America, we're going to seea champion Moto GP.
That's going to be a good weekend.
But I'm hoping KTM can redeem themselves also for having a

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terrible weekend. But it looks like from last year
they had one of the fastest times, so we'll see how how how
it plays out. But we're going to have a
champion as much. We got 3 champions, the crown
this weekend, Super Sport, SuperBike and Moto GP.
That's it. All right, all right.
So that's it, huh? And and only one of the three is

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is not pretty much guaranteed because.
The other two are pretty much. Guaranteed.
Pretty much serious. You want to elaborate for people
who are listening that may question with this?
I. I don't see.
I don't see Matthew, I don't seeMatthew Schultz not winning the

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championship at Jersey and and Idon't see Mark Marquez not
winning the championship at Mutegi when he only leads three
points. Got you.
So the only one that's up for real debate or with nail biting
is the Super bike championship in Motor America because it's
it's razor razor thin, man. But looking at the weather for
Mutegi this weekend, it looks inthe low 80s, partly cloudy and

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maybe some AM showers on Sunday,but other than that looks clean
marks. One there in the dry marks, one
there in the wet marks. Won several championships there,
so not much more to say man. Yeah, I I don't go ahead.
I don't see, I don't see any waythat he gets out of this weekend

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without three more points than his brother.
Like that's, that's, that's insane.
Three points, man. I mean.
I sneeze and get 3 points. I can get sneeze in three or
three points. He's won three times, never got
pole position, you know, so and.Clinched 2 championships.
There he did. I mean, you know, it was.

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Listen, it was. We won't talk about the one
with. What that that should have told
you right there. When you say he's never hit pole
and still won, what else you need to say?
Fair enough, fair enough. That's in the cover that.
Ducati's been generally strong there, so it's possible that

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some of the writers may show up.It's, you know, I mean.
No. No, no, I will say this because,
you know, I'm I'm the youngest that to my knowledge, Pops
hasn't told me otherwise. So you know.
I'm, I'm waiting for Alex to like, listen, all right, man,
come on, man. Like the young, the youngest got

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it, like Michael Jackson. I mean, there's, there's so many
youngest. I I like, you know, he, you know
what I'm saying? He, he might, he might be able
to, you know, take out his brother and and, and finish the
race. Nah.
I got a better chance of hittinga lot.
Of give them the the the Rossi in the corners just kick them
off let them look at them beforethey keep going.

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I'm sorry bro, just. Just just crash into them at
the, you know, take. Off nobody got to get points.
I got I got a better chance of hitting the lottery.
But I mean, you know, I, I got to assume you got to be tough
for Alex, you know, because, youknow, outside of his brother,

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you know what I'm saying? And, and I guess maybe this
might have been the first time that he's had to compete with
his brother as well, because Mark was kind of always ahead of
him. So he was always just kind of
chasing Mark. So it's the first time that
they're in the same class on, on, you know, at the at, you
know, 1 and 2. So psychologically that that,
you know, even though he shows like he's cool as a cucumber,

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you know, it has to be difficult.
And even you see with Mark and saying, you know, like the, you
know, even when not Mazano, the round before Mazano is like, if
I won in this round, you know, that means Alex didn't do well
and, and stuff like that. So I mean, I, you know, we've
heard it from Serena and Venus when they had to compete against
each other and stuff like that for championships and and
whatnot. I mean, you know, as parents, I

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can't imagine like, like, like what, you know, dad can't be
winking at Mark, you know, whilehugging Alex, like, no, you
know, this got to be it's a tough thing And and you know,
and cool as well for Moto GP. I say yeah, listen, you want to
go D? Yeah, yeah, you got it.

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I mean it's got to be tough for him but I mean at the same time,
you know, Mark, I mean not Mark.Alex hasn't really done that
great over his GP career. So it's like you can kind of
take the good and the bad. I mean, he's like, yeah, it's
tough. I got to be behind my brother.
But at the same time it shows what what I can do and what I,
you know, what kind of riding capability I have, you know,

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that I've been yearning for to show people that I can do.
You know, I'm up here battling with the, you know, the eight
time champion, my brother, I'm battling with him.
I'm one and two with him. So it shows the competitive
nature of him and it shows his it shows his talent finally.
So you got to take it as a stepping stone for him, like,
you know, so you got to take it saying, yeah, you're bounding

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your brother. It sucks, but it also shows some
greatness. That is that is with you.
So. Right.
I hear what you're saying and I,I want to say this, I don't know
how much you guys follow tennis,but there was a match at
Wimbledon with Federer and Andy Roddick.
It went for like 5 hours with five sets.

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You know, they split sets, they had to go to tie in the fifth
round tiebreaker and Roddick won.
I mean, Federer won and Roddick was like, what else can I do?
I mean, if this is Alex Marquez best year and he doesn't win,
like, I mean, Roddick retired, you know, and and threw away
pretty much all his trophies, you know.

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So like, you know, I'll ask Lewis, you're the numbers guy,
you know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, could this be
detrimental for Alex? No, I don't think it is because
again, he just finished second in the world championship to
possibly one of the greatest riders to ever throw his leg
over a motorcycle, whether it's his brother or not.
If you take the brother equationout and he was just Alex Lopez

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racing against Mark Marquez, he's still racing one of the
greatest riders to ever throw their leg over a motorcycle and
he came in second place on a satellite bike, you know, So I
don't think there's anything like he.
There's no reason for him to leave this season with anything
but his head held high. He did better than anyone ever
expected him to do. He did better than the two time

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world champion. One time world champion.
Or 1 1/2. No Pekkos won two.
No, I meant Martin. Yeah, yeah, Quatararo.
Those don't count. But I'm saying like he, you

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know, he came in second place ina championship that's loaded
with a lot of talent and he camein second place behind what one
of the greatest riders ever, youknow, So he has nothing to be
worried about, nothing to complain about.
I mean, there's a there's an interview online for those of
you that are not Spanish, try tofind it and see if you can get

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it translated. But he goes into a lot of
details about the sacrifices he made as a kid because he wasn't
as talented as his brother. And he says, you know very
plainly in his interview that hewas never the talent most
talented rider. He's still not the most talented
rider. He knows riders with more
talent, they just don't outwork him when other kids were out at

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parties. Luca Marina Marini see eye to
eye. Yeah, yeah, Him and Luca Marini
see eye to eye, except, you know, Luca's a little further
back right now because of the bike he's on.
But they're both living in the shadow of greatness.
You know, they're the four storybuilding next to the Empire
State Building. It's a nice building, but that's
the Empire State Building, my man.

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You know, it casts a big ass shadow and it covers your entire
little building. Even though it's a nice
building, brand new, nice, nice sauna, good gym, still Empire
State Building, you know, and that's what, that's the way you
have to look at it. Damn, I'm I'm, I'm glad I'm like
Michael Jackson. That's, you know, 1.

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Thing that Mark's dad was alwaysin well, Marquez's dad was
always in Mark's panic. I I've never really seen him in
the in Alice's panic, maybe timeto time, but when the camera was
on him, it seemed like he was always in Mark's panic.
So I still think that's his favorite until he's out of the

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game. I mean, you know, Mark, Mark's
probably been buying them more stuff longer than Alex has
because Alex only really startedcoming into money in the last
like few years. Like real money.
TJ he's trying to say parents got favorite kids, of course.
Man, kids paying all the. Bills.
That kid, that kids. They like that kid.
He's just the youngest boy. He's just the youngest, not the

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oldest, but you know what I'm saying?
But like you said, like he was saying, Mark's paying the bills,
so. Yeah, you got to.
You got to, you know, hey, man, that the guy that's paying the
bills, you got to give him a little extra love, a little few
more hugs, you know, than the kid that's costing you money.
But again, man, at the end of this year, I'm one.

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I'm glad that he's going to be with Garcini again next year.
I'm glad he's going to have the same structure behind him, the
same people behind him. He's going to be on factory
equipment next year, so that might give him that extra couple
of 10s because you never know man.
Again, this kid for the talent that he doesn't have.
People forget man, he is Moto 2 world champion.
Like he didn't just come into Moto GP with the last name and

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Moto 3. He didn't just come into Moto GP
with with no credentials. Like the dudes put in his work.
The dudes worked hard and I hopeto see him in the same position
next year, you know, and I hope to see him in that position for
years to come. You know, I think he's an
incredible talent. If you take Mark out of the
equation that the minute that Mark Marquez retires, Alex

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Marquez can pick up a a torch and run with it for another who
knows how many years and keep the Marquez name in that GB
paddock and keep pissing off those Italians for a long time
man. Listen, man, Alex need a lot of
a lot of a lot of credit becausehe could have Nancy Kerrigan, a
few people, all right? So it's going to be cool to see.

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I'm looking forward to it. I know you guys are going to be
at Jersey. I'm jealous because I'm not
there. Definitely take some photos,
Reese. Good luck, man.
I'm rooting for you guys becauseI know you.
I mean, that's what it is. I got I got Yamahas in Ducatis,
but you know what I'm saying? We appreciate.

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It. So, so definitely go Yamaha and.
We appreciate it. We appreciate it over here.
I can't wait to watch. I'm not going to be sweating
like you, got you, like you. So make sure you, you know, at
least steal something from LouisBest.
He's not going to drop off a T-shirt or anything.
Right. Ain't dropping.

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I'm stealing. All his gear.
His gear I'm stealing. And find out where y'all are
located, yeah? No, no doubt man.
Have fun man. Jersey's.
Going to be nice. It's the Be Forever Cool
podcast. My name is Rex 45, you got TJ
from 2 Wheels and coffee, Reese from Attack, Yamaha, the real
Louis Ortega, the numbers guy and more.

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It's a crazy show. Peace.
Peace, Peace.