MotoGP Catalan 2025 Round 15 Recap in S5 Ep 28

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Episode Transcript

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You're listening to the Bee Forever Cool podcast.
My name is Rex 45. We got Reese in the building.
We got the real Luis Ortega in the building.
We got TJ. Crazy weekend guys with racing.
If you're a fan of the Moto GP in the world, super bike stuff,
I'm pretty sure I think BSB happened too.
How's it going, TJ? Man, how's everything?

(00:21):
You know, I'm just watching VSP Moto GP all weekend, just
looking back and forth, different sessions and that's
about it pretty much. We had a a rainy Sunday so
stayed in all day and it was best time to catch up.
Yeah, yeah, it's like that when it rains.
At least we had sports on to a motorcycle racing on.

(00:44):
There's other sports on too to keep us entertained.
It did rain a little bit down here as well.
What's going on, Lewis, man, Howare things today?
Good, good, busy. You know, this past weekend was
pretty hectic. A lot of racing, a lot of
personal stuff I had to get done.
I spent last week in California.I flew back super early Friday
to get jump on the weekend and try to get all my personal stuff

(01:07):
done, but of course I didn't so.Hey, man, that's what that's why
it's personal. You know, that's one of the, you
know, without giving us too muchdetail on air, that's the, one
of the things I would donate to help people do because I, I, I
remember doing it once and I wasjust like, man, listen man, I'll
give you something for that because that's that.

(01:28):
It's no fun. Yeah, same here, man.
If I would definitely help somebody out in the time of
need. There's just, there's, there's
some things you'd own that you don't realize how much you
weigh, they weigh until you try to pick them up by yourself.
You're like, how did I even givethat shit in my house in the 1st

(01:49):
place? Who helped me?
I didn't do it myself. I know that for sure, Reese,
man, how are things, man? You know, you got a big weekend
coming up. So I mean, I think you must have
been just on Cloud 9 since last week weekend started.
It's been a hectic week, you know, same as Lewis, man, just
getting back from California andover here in Texas, get a long

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weekend ready to go, you know, in the heat, time to get back to
work. All right, man, well, it is that
it's time to get back to work and the people come here for
the, for the motorcycle talk. So we'll we'll get it going a
little different tonight becauseI mean, you know, the, the
younger brother finally got 1 looked like he would have had
two if it didn't crash out. So let's just talk about that

(02:35):
and, and what you guys think of what Alex Marquez accomplished
and how much of that did Mark want to let him win versus
because the championship would have been over obviously and it
still may be. What are your thoughts on what
Alex Marquez did being able to beat his brother, which

(02:55):
apparently no one else has done all season on a Ducati?
Yeah, man, no, it's it's good tosee that Alice is back on track.
I mean, well, for that, for thatwin, for all weekend, he he
looked really well. It was it was tough to see him
go down in the Sprint, how hard he's been trying.

(03:16):
But it was a lot of pressure on him anyway, because Marcus does
not want to win the championshipyet at the how well he's been
doing. So he knows his brother's his
only competition. So he's been rooting for him.
So now his brother wants to pusha little stronger.
And yeah, I'm glad he did it in the Sprint and not the GP
because, you know, that's where the more points are held.

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But it was really good to see him pull it out and just to see
the family and them too and celebrating in front of the the
and Mark Marquez's corner. That was just a good sight to
see it for the sport. That was really good did.
Did you think? Did you think the brother gave
him one? I, I, you know, at one point

(03:58):
when he got a federal, I think Mark was like, I was just
letting like get a like a secondor half a second, but not make
it too obvious. But he did put in a little fight
and, and I don't think he was going to try to pull it off.
I think he's going to let him try to win that one.
All right, Reese, what are your thoughts on the win?
And for you, man, do you think that you know Alex can do it

(04:21):
again? To say he can do it again,
maybe. I mean, depends on the track,
depends on where he goes. That's going to be the biggest
factor. I mean, I'm glad he did pull it
out. And like TJ said, I'm glad that
he didn't, you know, crash in the GP race.
I'm glad he crashed in the in the Sprint race.
And I think the pressure was on him.
And I mean, I watched the kind of like to have to talk for it.

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And he said that it was his fault.
He was pushing and his brother Mark was saying you didn't need
to push. He was actually pulling away
from him. So and Mark wasn't all there
that week this weekend. I mean, Alex was faster than him
all weekend. So I mean, it was nice to see
him get to win. I mean, I hope, you know, he can
come back and pull out another one and keep the keep the whole

(05:05):
championship going. I mean, it was kind of nice.
I mean, but what we all know ultimately at the end of the day
that Marquez is going to pull out the championship and win.
This whole thing is pretty much locked and sealed.
He can take the kind of the restof season off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I mean, yeah, yeah.

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What are your thoughts, Lewis? You know, and you know, you
heard Reese mentioned and I was thinking this as well, that, you
know, Mock struggled this weekend.
Is that a little bit of nerves or it's just sometimes it's just
sometimes it happens every once in a while anyway, so it could
be just that. Yeah, sometimes it just happens.

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Sometimes it's just not your track, not your weekend.
You're just not feeling that that that that grooving.
And I think he struggled throughout the weekend.
I mean, if you looked at the practice, he had a couple of big
Mark Marquez saves on his elbow and then things like that.
So, you know, this is a track he's done well at the past, but
he hasn't been dominant at this track for specifically.

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And you know, again, this is a heavy right-handed track and
he's obviously much stronger on left-handed track.
He loves counterclockwise tracks.
And his brother just was on pacefrom the very first practice
right to, you know, the Sprint. I mean, I thought his brother
was going to win the Sprint. He was walking away with it and
you know, he lost the front and as you know, that's part of

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racing. You crash.
But then his brother came back on Sunday and really did show
the pace that he had on Saturdaywasn't a fluke.
It wasn't just for a few laps. I mean, there was a point in the
race where, you know, they were the only two guys laughing in
that 140 and they were just walking away from each other.
And I think legitimately Mark did try to win.

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If you look, you know, a little bit past the halfway mark, I
think with like 8 laps left, youknow, Mark tried to do what Mark
normally does is when the tires drop off, try to make that move.
And, and he did close in on his brother a couple of times and
then he ran wide. He had a little bit of an issue.
So I don't think he let him win specifically.
I read, you know, Mark, Mark likes to win.

(07:11):
You know, any top rider like that likes to be on the top
staff. And you know, I when people say,
oh he let him win again, you don't realize the, the bonus
money that's behind these wins. The difference between 1st and
2nd place could be anywhere from$20,000 to $200,000 depending on
how your contract is laid out. So you know, I don't think Alex

(07:32):
is going to send Mark a check for 150K for letting him win.
I think he legit beat Mark as Alex beat Mark on a heads up
event just because Alex was better at this track.
Man, throughout the whole weekend he was, he was showing
those signs of brilliance. And after the tough couple of
rounds that he's had, it's good to see him bounce back and get

(07:53):
back up towards the front because yeah, he's he has had
some pretty hard rounds, like the last 3-4 rounds, you know,
he went from being that guy in second place, guy in second
place, guy in second place win one guy in second place to like
DNFDNF, you know, long lap penalty.
Yeah, he, he went more Benelli on us, man.
He went, he went rogue for a minute.

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But unlike Morbidelli, you know,he actually is has been on the
top step. He has tasted that good Prosecco
from the top step. And Morbidelli's just tasted a
lot of gravel lately and a lot of penalties, you know?
Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.

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What Toraro you know, getting onthe podium?
Q2. What do you think of Quatarara's
ride? I know you, I know you guys
think highly of of Quatararo. What are your thoughts DJ?
You know, I feel like he has it in him every weekend, every
round. It's just, you know, the package

(08:58):
that's put together for him. You know, he can ride around any
problem. Pretty much.
He doesn't really complain unless it's something really
dramatic, but every every podiumhe got or or when he was on
pole, he's earned every every ounce of it.
So he rode really well in the Sprint.

(09:20):
I see that it was definitely a step in the right direction for
the Honda for that race. But for long distance they still
still struggling a little bit. But that thing is definitely
well deserved for Fabio to finally get a.
Taste of the podium again. I, I I completely agree with
your thoughts Reese on on quadraros performance.

(09:41):
I think he was the first, I think he was the first one in
130 sevens, if not mistaken. Oh yeah.
So it was pretty, pretty crazy to see.
Yeah, it was pretty crazy to see, to see him be the first one
in the 37 mark and have the the front step for a while.
So I mean, it's pretty nice. You could tell that like you
said, like you just said, they just don't have the package.

(10:02):
But I mean, it's coming along. I know they're out there today.
I think they were doing a private testing and he's
actually getting a ride that V4.So we'll see how that goes and
see if they're ready to step it up.
I mean, but I mean, I was happy to see him up there in the
second place. I mean, well, he was third until
Alex crash and took second. So I mean, I was happy to see

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that and I was happy to see him get top five in in the GP race.
I mean, it was kind of nice to see the boys back up there and
not be back there where, you know, the back markers.
So it's kind of kind of nice to see that.
You know, if Smitty was on the show, he'll be talking about,
you know, the top, the top, the bottom 5 need to get lose their

(10:43):
job, right? There's Bastianini and Vili
Olives and the other things, time and the.
Yeah. I mean what you got to do, I
mean we're, we're the back markers right now.
Yeah. Nothing we can do on that, and
there's nothing I can do just get a new package.
Lewis man, numbers guy Yamaha, what quarter hour did it's the

(11:06):
best season he's had since he tome since he's won the
championship. Would you agree with that and
and what you thought of of his performance though over the
weekend? I mean, he always tries to put
on the best performance he can with what he has underneath him.
You know, he right now, he is the best rider on the shittiest

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bike. You know, even with all the
riders that Honda has, none of them are at his level as far as
skill, even though their bikes are just equally as shitty.
He is the best rider on the shittiest bike, man.
And I and I feel for the guy because you see that he is
pushing, he's trying his best with what he has.
And at some tracks, again, theirYamaha tracks, he can take

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advantage of the strengths of the Yamaha.
And, you know, this specific track, I mean, this track
doesn't have a lot of straightaways.
You're on the side of the tire alot.
It's a lot of cornering speed. And that's where the yacht
Yamaha is always accelerated. So this is a really good track
for Yamaha, but you know, again,you know, it sucks that he could

(12:09):
only be good at a track that that bike specifically could
work at because he's at such a deficit in power and other
things. You know, I know Yamaha was or
has been saying that the V4 is coming.
I've been hearing that for yearsnow.
They, you know, they finally gave a date when it'll be on the
track. So I'm looking forward to that

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day coming and I'm looking forward to them hopefully taking
that next step because I Cuatro is a guy you should see in the
top 8 every weekend. Like he's a perennial top seven,
top eight guy. He shouldn't be finishing, you
know, lower than 10th, sometimesfinishing in 18th place.
I mean, that's, that's not the place.
And I can understand his frustrations with the bike, but

(12:54):
again, he keeps signing the contracts too.
So the checks must be clearing and they must be big enough to
keep him on that shit box until they deliver something else.
But at some point, you know, if they don't deliver something,
he's going to have to hit the eject button, just like Mark did
with Honda. You know, at a certain point you
got to think about your career, your career longevity, what
legacy you want to leave for yourself, you know, for the

(13:15):
public. You know, if you want to leave
them legacy, you can. But I'd rather leave my legacy
in my bank account then leave mylegacy in how people look at me.
You don't have to like me, you know, I do what I do.
And you know, there's a lot of people that don't like Paul
Toraro. But he does what he does, man.
He gets on the bike, puts on a helmet, he goes hella fast on a
shitty bike. So you got to give it to him.

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Only thing I can say is I think Zaco will object to that.
He, you know, he, he's stacked up the on a on a shitty bike and
he got he, he he's sipping the top step of the podium and they.
Didn't give him a factory bike, so they didn't sign it, but they
didn't give a. Factory yeah before we move all
your thoughts on him not gettinga factory seat because I.

(13:57):
Think I think they'll give him afactory bike just on the
satellite team. OK.
Like, I think they just want to keep the younger guys, huh?
They're going to be paying them from satellite money versus
factory money. I mean, satellite money still
pays the bills, man. You know it's not factory money.
It's not. But now, well, but it also
doesn't come. It doesn't come with as many

(14:19):
commitments that you have to do when you're on a factory team.
Like when you're on a factory team, from the time you get to
the track to the time you leave everything to how fast or how
much time you have to wipe your ass is laid out for you.
Like, you know, 7:00 PM Thursdaynight, you got to do this from
this to this, you know, 9:30 PM Thursday night, you got to do
this to this. 6:30 AM, you got to be up because at 7:00 you got

(14:41):
your first interview and you gotto be there 6:45 after the
interview's done, you're going to go to the team.
You're going to like, whereas a satellite team, they still have
that structure, but they don't have as many publicity
commitments because who really wants to talk to the LCR guy?
Come on. Like legit man.
I got to agree with that. How many times have you seen

(15:02):
Fernandez? You know, swamped Say I can't
get away. I can't get away.
Agura, man. I've seen Gura and be like yo
man. I know what you mean, it
happened to me. Yeah, the factory guys, man, if

(15:23):
you see them, they literally from the trailer to the pit to
the Media Center to this to that, Like they got somebody
with them because they have to like they they can't even keep
track of their schedule. Like they look forward to
getting on the bike so they don't have to do all that other
stuff. This is the part that I like.
All that other stuff is what I got to deal with.
And even, you know, if you go back, Casey Stoner is one of his

(15:43):
biggest gripes about Moto GP. He's like, I'm here to ride a
bike. I hate doing these interviews.
I hate doing this. I hate, you know, I got to do
autograph signings. People lay out 100 neat pucks in
front of me. I got to sign these from this
time to this. Like this is not what I came.
I came to ride a bike, go fast and win.
Right. Well, I mean, listen, you know,

(16:04):
some of that signing, you know, I'm pretty sure Casey doesn't
have a job right now. He's getting paid.
So kind of works a little bit intheir favor too.
But let's move. Let's move on the KTM boys guys,
man, listen, I thought, you know, I thought it was like a
three headed dragon moving at one point.
What are your thoughts on what they were doing?

(16:24):
I mean, Bender shining a little bit.
I mean, I I think we still got some more rounds for him to say,
OK, he he kind of saved his season.
But what are your thoughts on what bashing in the Acosta and
and and Bender until he crashed out was able to do TJ?
Well, yeah, I mean the Sprint, you know, been there actually in

(16:46):
the past. Like he, he loves sprints also.
So it was, it was good to see him, you know, not too terrible
as he's been kind of doing this year.
But for watching the KTMS, like,you know, all three of them
together in the Sprint, it was actually a good sight to see
that, you know, the way they were rolling in and jelling with
each other. And you see, they had like,

(17:07):
obviously the same package wherethey were just the same
competition. But it was good to see them like
running. I think there were four, like
they were obviously top ten, butyeah, 4 fifth and 6th.
So that was pretty good to see. Yeah.
So what I was looking at, it's like, all right, out of all
these three, what KTM riders tryto prove himself the most like

(17:28):
who wants to be upfront and takethe charge?
So I'll see Pedro constantly trying to take the jump and then
out of nowhere and they are Bastanini out of such a, you
know, good flight, which and results had he had a good
weekend, you know. So that was really good for the
KTM guys seeing the whole paddock smiling and everything.
So that was a good sight. Reese, I mean, what are your

(17:51):
thoughts on how KTM did and alsoBassionini?
I mean, you know, as TJ said, Acosta, you know, wants to be
the main guy, but Bassionini is looking real nice, like he's
going to be the main guy for therest of the season.
I mean, yeah, it was nice to seethem all up there finally.
I mean, I don't know if they were all trying to prove

(18:11):
something for the new CEO of KTMout there.
I don't know what they were doing, but whatever it did, it
actually worked. So I mean, Bassionini's come
along like the checks are actually coming now.
Like, oh man, we got checks now.That's right.
You know, I don't know, they gotsome money now.
Like we are right now, like, hey, if you want me to ride,

(18:33):
show me the money first. But I don't know.
I mean, Vasaninis, like I said, he's coming along.
He's I think he doesn't want, I think he wants to be that top
guy over Acosta and Acosta was leading.
I mean, but Bassinini showing his potential on that KTM and
actually stepping, finally stepping his game up and not

(18:53):
somewhere in a, like I said, back marker somewhere you can't
find them and like where, where you at?
And Brad Bender, you know, he's like TJ said, he likes to Sprint
races. You know, he does very well on
Sprint when it comes to the GP race, he's he falls off his flat
on his ass sometimes. But I mean, he was right there.

(19:16):
He rides a little wild. He rides a little wild.
I mean I got to call. Out there for him on that bike,
bro. Just got to call it where you
see it, man. I mean, he's always somewhere on
the ground or blown up or I don't know.
I mean the Costa, he gets a goodjump and and he just kind of

(19:40):
fade back maybe one or two spotsand then kind of settle in
there. But it was nice to see.
Yeah, it was nice he saw how, you know, talk about sliding
Bender and and and Bastionini. When they were all together,
those two were just slide in therear like crazy.
Right. And you've seen it.
They were backing it in every corner.

(20:00):
They were trying to get in there.
And I was like, nice, just had awatch.
Yeah, Missouri. I I had a Tech 3 new guy.
Let me talk a little bit about that little What are your
thoughts on KTM? And also, yeah, let's talk about
Tech 3 and the new owner. What's his name from NASCAR, but
also Formula One, because it seems like he'd rather say he

(20:23):
owns a NASCAR team than was in Formula One every time he was in
front of a Mike and Moto GP. What are your thoughts on what
KTM did? I was impressed with KTM.
Again, this is a track that I think really did benefit them,
at least played into a little bit more of their strengths.
But I think all the riders that are doing well in KTM right now

(20:45):
all need to send a big thank youto Maverick Vignales, because
he's the one that kind of showedthem the way with this new
package this year. He was the first one to really
start being successful on a regular.
And once he became successful ona regular, all of a sudden that
started to propagate to everybody else.
Everybody else started getting alittle better, a little faster,
a little bit more confident. I think the biggest bonehead

(21:07):
mistake of the weekend was Acosta going with the software
tire. Yeah.
I don't know what he thought he was gonna do.
That track is brutal on tires. You spent a lot of time on the
side of your tire and you saw that, you know, halfway through
the race he started dropping. He started dropping.
He's coming out of the corners, he's spinning the tire.
I mean, if he had gone with the same compound that the rest of

(21:28):
the KTM riders went with, he probably would have been
battling with Bastini right to the end for that third spot.
I mean, he's lucky he even got away with where he got away
because at the lap, had the track, had the race been a
couple more laps, realistically he might have finished 7th
because you know, the the four or five guys behind him were

(21:48):
catching him fast. You know.
He was only one second less thana second ahead of Quadraro.
He was about a second and a halfin front of Agura.
And I mean, he was still 3 seconds faster than Bag Nya, So
we want to talk about that. Who is it faster than bag?
Nya right but. I think the next, I think the

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next round is also going to be agood round for the KTM package.
You know, they're going to Italyand that track is going to be
really good for them. That track is going to be good
for them. Is not going to be great for
Yamaha. I think Quattaro will do his
best in that backside of the track where you can kind of get
some speed and goes through somefast corners.

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But I think the KTMS will be back up there next week.
I don't know where the Aprilia'sare going to be because, you
know. We got a we.
Got an injury issue now, possibly thanks to somebody
taking somebody out and going tosay no names.
Good, good old Frankie. He got away with one though.

(22:58):
The second. One was he didn't get away with
that second one that was clean the second one but that first
one, yeah, for sure. So we'll.
See, we'll see this next track, but I think KTM is probably
going to be good the next 3 or 4tracks and then we'll see if
they can keep carrying that momentum and everybody on KTM's
is safe right now. They all have contracts for 26

(23:18):
already signed, so they just gota ride.
And then next year we'll see howthings sort.
I mean, if things keep going theway they're going, the main
person I see at any risk of losing their job next year is
Bender. You know, I think when Vinales
gets healthy again, he's going to be right up at the front
again and been there with as many years they've been on the
KTM. He's the one guy that is not
shining and you can't be on a ona bike on a factory bike that

(23:42):
long and have you guys come in and out shining you.
So next year the spot that he isgoing to be definitely turned up
on Bender unless again unless he's got some compromising
photos of the right people, thenyou're going to keep his job
you. Know how many days?
How many rounds of vinyales is actually going to be up top
though? Yeah, if, if.
Vinyales. Is healthy, honestly, he can be

(24:04):
good. But again, man, he's got to be
on the perfect bike. And it seemed like he helped
them get the bike pretty sorted because before he started
getting on his streak, I mean the KTM boys looked like they
didn't have a road map on how toget around a track.
And now all of a sudden, you know, whatever they did or
whatever he developed or whatever he did as far as
changing the package, now all ofa sudden the KTM's are looking

(24:25):
great. And they got great riders.
You know Bastianini and Acosta aren't slouches.
So we'll see how the rest of theseason.
Goes for them. I think it's, I think it's
positive and I think that new ownership, I can't remember the
dude's name, Stein. Gunther.
Steiner yeah, things like that. Again.

(24:46):
It's always good to have an infusion of money, man.
You know you can't go racing without money.
So if you get infusion of money and you can get infusion of new
ideas, you know, let's see what he brings over from NASCAR, what
he brings over from Formula One.Let's see what the shake up is
going to. Because like he said in the
interview, from now until the end of the year is going to be

(25:07):
status quo. But you know, when the end of
the year comes, let's see what happens, what changes he's going
to make. You know, how's the team going
to look? You know, are they going to stay
with Red Bull? You know, because technically
Tech 3 doesn't have to stay withRed Bull.
I'm sure Red Bull is giving him some good coin, but let's say he
wants to rebrand the team under his brand and do all these other
things and bring in new sponsors.

(25:28):
It's going to be real interesting for Tech 3.
I hope. I hope Tech 3 gets a huge
infusion of money. I hope they get away from the
Red Bull logo. Like we don't need 4/4 dudes on
bikes that look exactly the sameeven though they're not like.
Bring in some new. Sponsors let's.
You know, let's. Go Formula One style.
Let's have you know 15 differentsponsors sponsoring bikes out

(25:50):
there. Yeah, we're going to I'm.
Going to look forward to seeing what happened and I mean, I
think for Harvey Montreal, it's tough letting go your baby and
he's he's had that baby for a minute.
So I think he's. Maxed out what he could do with
it. I mean, he, he's had a lot of
success. If you think about all the
people that have gone through Tech 3, think about all the
riders they, they have back whenthey were with the Yamaha, you

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know, I mean, that was a launching pad for a lot of great
Yamaha riders. That was a launching pad for a
lot of great riders in general. Yeah, for.
Sure. It just comes, you know?
Sometimes it just comes that daythat you just got to let go.
We got to let go. That's the.
Downside. That's it, Father.
Time to check over. That's it.
But let's. Move on to Aprilia because if
you touched on it a little bit, we'll talk.

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Let's we'll start with TJ on that Aprilia.
What they did, it looked, I mean, Bazecki looked like he, he
would have been the front runnerfor the Aprilia brand and until
he got jacked up. And even though he he he did
crash out in the main race, now he only made.
It one lap, did he crash out in both?
Phrases did he? Crash in the second he got

(26:55):
taken, he got taken out, right? He got taken out.
And then and then I think he crashed the second race too.
OK, Yeah. I'm sorry you.
Had a horrible weekend. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this is the one on the weekend they need.
To forget, yeah, he completed one lap.
Yeah, what are your? Thoughts TJ on Aprilia Martine
the track house boys because they they a guru is looking

(27:20):
really good again after, you know, hopefully just healing up
better because he's starting showpace again and getting out
in front of Fernandez. What are your thoughts?
Yeah, I mean. I grew up, I, I grew up probably
look the best out of all their Prairie rides this weekend.
I mean with more Martine gettingtaken out by by Jackie, I mean

(27:43):
by Mobijeli and and the Sprint, was it Mobijeli?
And who did? The Furman take out.
Yeah, yeah. So mobijeli.
Took out Martine and who took out and and Furman Took out
Bazecki. Yeah, Furman.
Took out Bazecki and yeah, Yep, that's the correct name.
Scotti Ducati, huh? Yeah, so that.

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That was just, you know, when, when you when you try to have a
good qualifying and and you go, it's for all racing.
But that you know, the luck Bazecki been having, he's been
on a good high, but just to havesomeone take you out, it just
sucks, you know, because like you know, which they just break
a little early or something likethat.
But just to have the, you know, Martine and Bazecki go out and

(28:31):
basically a watch weekend for the Sprint and the GP, it's hard
to think about because you're like you got nothing out of it.
You tried so hard to get where you are in the beginning and all
the to the practicing and stuff like that to get ahead of
everybody. So I mean hopefully luckily it's
a quick turn around and they canjust forget it and hopefully

(28:53):
just look like ATM and get. All their prayers.
Back going on the right steppingstone.
OK, that's what's up, Reese. What?
Are your thoughts on Aprilia? They seem to be more consistent
this year. I think, you know, like the
first few races we can probably say was up and down.
They also didn't have Martine, obviously, but Martine finished

(29:15):
13th in the main race. I don't know.
And it was taken out in the Sprint.
But you know, Fernandez and and Iagura, those guys rode really
well. Your thoughts on where Aprilia
is and how they're doing this, where they're at in the season?
I mean I. Definitely agree with you.
Yeah, I definitely think that ismore consistent this year
overall. And like it's like, you know,

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unfortunately, you know, both top guys in Aprilia were taken
out, you know, with more redeli and them they were all taken
out. But Agoura, I mean he actually
held, he carried a flag this weekend.
I mean for the the main race he actually carried it and he did
very well. I mean, I think that.
Next year we're going to be a. Little different once all guys

(29:58):
are 100% healthy and they get their time to be on the bike to
develop the bike to where they need to be and and get the bike
to that with their standards. I think it's going to be a
little bit different race. I think they'll be up there
always in the top five. You know, I hope Jorge come back
stronger and be a little be a nice battle.
So we'll we'll see what they gotnext year coming into it.

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I mean, this year I think they just need to salvage as much as
they can. Bethany still is what third?
I mean, Bazeki is still third. Yeah, Bazeki is still third.
So I mean, long as he can carry the points and so right, I mean.
He's doing. Better than Pekka?
Do you think that out? There, Yeah.
Yeah, I mean we. I see it.

(30:40):
I see it right there. Do you think he do you think
that more Bedelli's penalty was enough?
I mean, if he, if you look at itas one instance, but if you look
at the whole year at some point,like race direction should do a
little bit more because it's like it's one lap.
And I think he recovered. He also cracked.

(31:00):
Oh, he did he cry? Yeah, he end up crashing out.
But he still is doing fairly decent even after his long lap
penalty. Do you think it should be?
It should have been worse than this one lap I I think it's
going. To come down to more than one
lap with him. I mean, you look it's like
almost like technically a consistency of something going
on like every round he's going up to the race direction, he's

(31:23):
doing something and I'm still trying to figure out how the
heck did he get another year on his bike?
Like like Jesus Christ, I'm justI'm like give it up like he
hasn't really been relevant since COVID years.
Well, the. Thing is, what are what are what
other available Italian is thereto put on that bike right now?
That is a good point there. Isn't that Valentino Rossi is?

(31:44):
Not, you know, in the. Practice of.
Giving his seats to non Italians, you know he's got AVR
46 Academy, he helps get Italians through Moto 3 and Moto
2. He signs a lot of these Italians
to his his VR 46 camp. So what is he going to do?
You know, for all these rumors that people have been saying

(32:05):
about Acosta going to VR46, I never believed it for once that
Rossi was going to put a Spaniard on his bike over an
Italian like he. No, I never bought that.
Off the street in the middle. Of Venice and give him a bike
before he gives a Spaniard a bike.
No, but I thought he was going. To at least get somebody from
Moto 2. One of his upcoming guys, yeah,

(32:25):
but none of his. Upcoming guys look that strong
in Moto 2, you know, so it's give Frank, give Frankie another
year and see what shakes out. And maybe, you know, maybe next
year, you know, more penalties. Peg.
Yeah, but Pekko gets kicked off the Ducati squad and he can pick
him up and put him on his bike or some other Italian you know,

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doesn't resign with their team. Because next year, if you think
about it, Pekko be free, Fazeckiwill be free.
There's a lot of free Italians next year that he can put on the
bike. So giving Frankie a one year
contract just to keep an Italianass on that seat and keep it
warm for another year is not a bad idea, even though Frankie's
going to cost them a lot of money in parts and a lot of

(33:08):
headaches. But Frankie.
'S you know he's doing fairly well.
I mean you when he's when he's not.
Crashing into people? Yeah, despite all.
Of his penalties, he's like, he's like, So you think if he
didn't have these penalties, howmuch further he could be in the
championship? Yeah, but the thing.
Is like I said, Frankie kills me.
Like Frankie's my boy. I like Frankie.

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But Frankie's like that. Brother that every time the
phone rings on a Saturday night you're like oh shit man 1:00 AM
Why he calling me man? That's that's.
Frankie, like you're my family, my boy.
I like you. 1:00 Saturday morning.

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Hi this is. Sergeant, such and such.
Are you Luis Ortega? Yeah.
Nobody else to call. I mean, listen, you're you're
absolutely right. I mean, you know, Rossi has
Rossi looks out for his peoples and and we saw that, you know, I
mean, I think, you know, we're going to move on to Honda

(34:20):
anyway. But like he looks out for his
people. You see what he did for his
brother and and all the other writers that he's brought to and
even I can't remember his name. Migos.
Migos. Yeah, yeah, Meno.
Yeah, it's just like he, you know, these these are, you know,
knock to him, but it's more talented riders than him and

(34:41):
he's still he's in motor E now, but still, you know, he's still
on a bike. Well, I think the reason.
That they signed Frankie this late in the game is because he
really was waiting to see if Honda would sign his brother.
And once Honda signed his brother, then he was like, all
right, now I got a seat available.
Let me sign Frankie. You know that that's really, I
feel that's really what it came down to.
Because if Honda did not sign his brother, then his brother be

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back on a Ducati next year on a VR46 bike.
Got you. That's the way.
And I don't blame him. Man, if that was my family and I
know my brother, his brother hastalent.
His brother talented rider. We'll.
Talk about that cuz we're gonna jump into Honda but yeah let's
talk about how he's been doing. He come back after his injury
and, you know, he is a talented writer.

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Yeah. No, he's I.
Mean TJ can kick it off, but I think he's definitely up there.
TJ Well, we'll set it up, man. Like we see Zaco, you know, the
other Frenchman who's doing wellon a bad bike.
Mir is struggle a little bit butdid well.
But you know, it looked like Lucas kind of having

(35:45):
back-to-back rounds and he's going home next weekend.
So his chances are he might be even get on the podium on that
Honda because that that Honda was looking strong out there
fighting with the KTMS and the previous man.
Yeah, the the Honda. 'S actually looking much better
than you know you can see that progression and when you come

(36:08):
off an injury you obviously haveyour setbacks.
So it's good to see you know mirror Luca Marini, you know
mayor always crashing Luca Marini was out, so it was good
to see Honda actually finishing.You know Zarkos proved this
point. You know he's got on the podium
he's throwing that bike around so for him crashing out, you

(36:31):
know he was giving his all, but I mean for them to finish you
know I think Mary and Luca Marini finished in top ten.
It was definitely good to see looks like definitely Luca
Marini coming back into his own.And then when you build, when
you start finishing and, and getting top ten and, and you
know, actually finishing the whole weekend, you build more

(36:54):
confidence. And you see it in Luca Marini
for sure, where he's got on withthe guys that, you know, not
used to seeing a battle with. OK, what?
Are your thoughts Reese man on what Honda is doing?
I'm trying to see what Zarko was7th and in the qualifying and
Luca was he was like. 3rd. He was.

(37:18):
Oops. Qualifying.
In qualifying. So yeah.
So. Pretty fast.
What row was? Luca Luca Marini on two or
three. Third.
Third. Yeah, he started. 10th probably
even 4th row, right? 4th row across, three across,
three across Yeah 3. Across, Yeah.

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So not too far off to, you know,like 6/10, almost 7/10.
I mean, he started. A further upfront than Bagnaya
so. You.
Know. We don't.
We don't talk about. Too many people in the back, I

(38:01):
mean, and Lewis and. Lewis said.
Watch this hold my beer. He's back.
They were. Chargers but.
Reason Your thoughts on how Honda's doing?
You think they have they you think they have everything to
finish strong. Do you think they have a chance
to be like a, you know, as far as manufacture one of the top

(38:23):
three manufacturers for next season because you know, they've
been showing glimmer and and youknow, what are your thoughts?
As much as it kills me to. Say this, I say yes.
I mean, it kills me to say it. I mean, they've been showing out
of the the the Jack boys that they have the progression to
come back. They are doing a progression

(38:43):
slowly but surely and I think that, you know, once they get
their stuff back together, they're going to be a top
contender. They're actually on their way
back up. I mean, Luca Marini show that
you just said he qualified and what the 4th rows and then come
up there in the top 10. So I mean, I I said they're
they're on their way back. I mean, I just wish the boys in

(39:06):
blue had figured this crap out and get this V4 going and stop
being so slow. But I mean, I could say that I
think next year that we're goingto see the, I mean, the Honda
boys back up in the on the podium.
Yeah, I can I. Can kind of see that as well for
sure. And rightfully so, because it's,

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you know, as much as I love Ducati, it's, it's nice when
there's, there's other brands competing versus, you know, the
top six Ducati riders competing with each other, you know, you
mean in the Ducati Cup. Yeah, exactly.
I'm not saying that this year, right, So you know it is you
know, it's definitely been abolished by the by the non

(39:47):
Ducatius mark has come. Now.
What are your thoughts Lewis on?How Honda is doing, do you agree
with Reese and myself is saying that, you know, Honda could be
one of the top three brands on the West rises next season on on
wins and podiums and all that fun stuff?
Yeah, they're going in the right.
Direction, I mean, if you look at them and you look at Yamaha,

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you know, I think Honda is definitely a lot closer than
Yamaha is. If you look at overall, when
they're both healthy, the the larger majority of Honda riders
finish higher up than the largermajority of Yamaha riders.
So, you know, given all things apples to apples, I think Honda
is just a few steps ahead because the only thing that's

(40:30):
making Yamaha look good right now is Quadraro.
While on the Honda side, Marini does it, has his great days,
Rinz has his good days and Zarkohas his good days.
So I think they definitely have a little bit better of a package
somewhere because they're finishing a little bit better.
And it's not like they have consistently better riders.
You know, I think they're both on par and Yamaha definitely has

(40:53):
overall the better rider. Quadraro, you know Yamaha, they
got OK riders. You know I can't believe that
Jack Miller is still there. I really thought he was going to
go to war super bike. But Honda kept their crew
they're happy with the team. That's why they re signed
everybody to make sure that they're there next year and keep
developing the bike. And I really do think that by

(41:16):
the end of this year and going into next year, Honda would be
in a much better position because I don't see a lot of
development happening with the current bikes next year
considering what's going to happen in 27.
So you know, I think that the money's going now towards the 27
bike and Honda's still finding little pieces for this bike that
they can bring over to the 27 bike.
So I I. I let me ask you this who's a

(41:39):
better teammate for Top Rock than Jack Miller in Moto G?
Nobody. That's it when you say teammate.
You mean somebody that's going to be easy for him to beat?
Come on, man. You know, it's more to it than
that. Come on, man, Come on.
And it's not going to be easy tomeet Jack.
Jack Miller just beats himself because he's usually, you know,

(42:02):
chucks it down the road. I mean, Jack's a Jack.
'S a personality. He's a pretty open guy.
He's pretty easy, easy to get along with kind of person, kind
of rider. So I think that that's going to
be a good gel for the two of them.
You know, Top Rank is going to be stepping in the Moto GP.
You know, he's coming from the big fish in the little pond and
now he's going to be a mediocre fish in a big pond that got a

(42:24):
couple of big ass sharks. So you're going to have to grow
a little bit, get some weight up.
Let me say this though. You know it will.
I'll bring up Petco. You will hear Petco say Jack
Miller was his best teammate today.
Yeah, because. He could beat Jack Miller pretty
easily. Come on, man, it wasn't that.
Your best. Your best teammate that doesn't

(42:46):
compete against you, that's yourbest teammate.
Got it? Help they.
Help him, help him, you know, talking behind him because he
was rolling roadblock my. Man might as well have a sign
that says caution and have a bike that's 8 feet wide like
that's your best teammate. Well, you guys say at this
point. At this point, I think Jack was

(43:06):
OK with that. You know, I mean, I mean they
use them for every manufacturer he went to.
They, they used him the same wayhe went to KTM and he was
supposed to help Bender and and change things around and then he
was gone, you know, saying so. Yeah, so.
So I think you're not looking atit.

(43:28):
You know, we got things to look forward to now when we go to
Puerto Mile, we're going to see who's going to jump over a turn,
whatever 5 or something like that the most.
They're going to have stompy competitions.
Yeah, that's that's not what race is about.
But it's just going to bring something to look forward to.
And Jack Malone would be a good team that thank for Top Rock,
you know, because, you know, whoelse can he really learn from at

(43:53):
this stage? You know, I'm saying I don't
think a younger rider would. I mean, listen to him.
We're gonna let. Reese where the.
Controls are where the controls are.
What do you do in this term? Yeah, I got you.
That's it. All right, Reese.
Since since since you're on a teamwork for a team Reese and
just two riders and you know howit works on the inside, you

(44:18):
already just acknowledged that it's a good idea for Jack
Miller. When to the best of what you can
tell us are you are you guys looking for a rider that another
rider can beat? Let's just just on the team like
is that is that what we're saying here that like, you know,
my, it's the Easy Rider and you know, please tell Lewis why Jack

(44:40):
is is the perfect teammate for for oh, I know why let's.
Listen to Reese. But I know why.
Don't that. Don't that.
Lewis, bully you, man. Come on, he's not bullying me.
But just laughing. But I think Jack is OK.
I mean, Jack is a good rider. I mean, he's a hell of a he can

(45:01):
help develop a bike that's one. He can't help develop it and
understands he's coming from Ducati.
So he knows the inside and out of that V forward that's coming.
You know, he can help bring thatV4 up into specs and to get it
to where the Ducati was. I mean, yes, he is a great, easy

(45:22):
person to beat, as Lewis would say.
And if I'm Jack Miller, I reallywouldn't give a damn as long as
the check's clear at the end of the day.
Teaching in my bank. But, but no, I mean, I think
Jack and, and, and Top Rack willget along just fine.
I think he'll help Top Rack develop into a better rider.

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I think he'll, you know, Jack will show Top Rack certain
things that other people won't show him because we all know
Jack just doesn't have a filter on him.
He has zero filters. 0 cares. He's going to tell like it is.
And so I, I think that's where it's going to help Top Rack
become that different animal on the bike than anybody else

(46:08):
would. OK.
Do you think? Top rack turn into.
Tackle though any influence. In in in getting them resigned,
do you think like they, you know, on the behind the scene,
they already knew this and say, hey, we want this guy to stay
versus Oliveira. I mean, if you look at it apples
to apples in. Performance, I mean really it's

(46:29):
you going to keep all of error or you going to keep Jack?
You you mean that you're? Going to keep the guy that the
the the weekend that Jack got signed to a new contract.
Beat Jack's ass in both races. Or Jack.
He's looking for a new. Job, man, Come on, it's a job
interview he's doing right now. You know how it works.

(46:52):
I'm really good at getting. Hit by other riders?
Unbreakable. Though Jackson unbreakable so
far. Right.
I mean, you got to look at this.Who's the next Yamaha guy on
that bike? Who's the next one besides
Quattro? Who was the next one, Jack?

(47:15):
I mean, compared to Rinz and Olive Error, yeah.
Rinz. Honestly, I think that that I
wouldn't be surprised if Yama buys him out of the rest of his
contract and find somebody else because at this point, Rinz is
just riding to try to get through his through his
contract. I mean, I would.
I would just. Buy him out and get him out that

(47:35):
seat. Like buy.
You got to go. Yeah, buy.
Him. Out, get a young guy, you know,
on the seat for, you know, a good price.
Get somebody out of Moto 2 that shows some potential.
I mean, again, you can find yourself, if you look at the
Moto 2 grid, man, it's pretty stacked, the top 6-7 guys.
It's a lot of talent right there.
I'd rather put one of those guyson the bike and see if they

(47:58):
could do what Agoura and Fernandez and Al Daguerre are
doing versus, you know, staying with Rens and watching him, you
know, sit on the crash truck or sit in the tire wall or not make
it out or, you know, qualifying 18 place.
I mean, right now you're just burning gas and tires.
Has anyone? Ever got bought out before?

(48:18):
Yeah, it's happened. Before Espinales, he didn't get
bought out, he got fired. Conduct detrimental to the team
was the exact clause that they Ithink I.
Think he's redeemed himself? I've seen that one.
But. If if more guys can.

(48:40):
Destroy more bikes than what Cotteraro did not or did attempt
to do and didn't succeed. I mean, they're still on other
bikes. I think we can let the others go
on that one. And you know, hey, like you say,
when it's a shit box, all you want to do is break it.
Yeah, man. I mean, I, I, I don't understand
why they picked Jack Miller overthe Oliveira.

(49:02):
I mean, Oliveira has no consistency, but it's not always
his fault. I mean, obviously he's been hurt
a lot of, again, no fault of hisown, but.
Do I keep Oliver? Milk.
Yeah, do I keep? Oliver.
Or do I keep Jack Miller, who's a more well known commodity,
who's more liked, who comes witha little bit more cachet, has

(49:23):
more experience? I keep Miller.
Yeah, yeah, I keep. Miller, you know, I keep Miller
because at least I know it's it's going to help the team in a
positive way. Even if he's not that
competitive, it's a positive impact overall on the team and
overall on Yamaha. Well, let let let let's say.
Go ahead. I was going to say, why was it?

(49:43):
Such a hard decision. They waited so long, like the
last minute like he was. Honestly, I think they.
Would try to get another rider and the other rider fell through
or they couldn't come to agreement with another rider.
So then they were like, let me let's just lock in Miller again,
because Miller started to put that that little bit of pressure
that he's looking elsewhere thatthis and that.

(50:04):
And I think they wanted to see if they could find somebody
else, but they couldn't. So they just, you know,
sometimes they're going to pick the easier path they were going
to bring Manzi. Over and until Ray decided to
retire, maybe. Well, let's talk about.
World Super Bike and Top Rock hat trick, right?
You know, it seems like Bulga is.

(50:26):
I mean, Bulga is riding in the best ride he's riding, but he
seems like he's in his head the way he's riding a little bit.
What are your thoughts on, you know what, what top rack is
doing in in in world super bike?And you know, it was pretty cool
races this weekend and let you know.
Well, I'll save it for you, Lewis.
You'll talk about Sam Lowe and Alex Lowe's because one of them
survived. Between.

(50:51):
What are your thoughts DJ? Yeah, I mean.
I top rack is just he's ready. You can see he's just he's just
a stand out right now. He's showing that he's unbeaten
and even from last year when he was off a couple of rounds, he
was up by a lot of points and still came back to win.

(51:12):
So he's just showing that he's ready and have the hat trick.
You know, I forget how many winsin a row he's had, but just to
just to wait the weekend again, one less than Mark Marquez.
It seems like 12. Or something like.

(51:32):
That I. Feel for, I feel for Bouliger.
I feel for Bouliger. I mean, I mean, last time when
we talked, we thought he had a shot of just keeping it close.
But I think Tom Price is going to have it locked unless, you
know, something's wrong with thebike or, you know, just a racing
incident. But just to pull a hat trick

(51:53):
again and, you know, we'll get also second all the way around,
which is, you know, the best he can do.
You know, at least he didn't getlike 1/3 or anything like that.
It's like did the best he can do.
It's just we talked about it. He wants to be that champion.
I just don't think he's going toget it.
Yeah, it's just. Been amazing.
The best he could do it was. Ugly too.
They I mean, he made some mistakes and but he came, he

(52:15):
fought back to get that second. So if he could have had a ride
like Tap Rock, maybe it might have been closer.
TJ can you really ride? Like that?
OK, I. Know you can't not a.
It's a. Different.
It's a different. Style of riding, I love

(52:35):
watching. I, I mean, it's a different
style of riding and he, he's, he's, he's a lot smoother rider
and I, you know, I, I, you know,the things have to be right.
I think for him to go fast. He.
He. He's doing better than Pekka.
I I can go fast. On anybody.
He's doing better than Pekka. Jesus Christ, Yeah, yeah.

(52:58):
So your. Thoughts Reese on on, on the
races. And you know the outcomes.
I mean, at the end of the day. I mean, I watch it and kind of
like, all right, the same kind of players up front is is Buluga
is it's top rock. I mean, like once I see top rack
get like a, you know, a decent sized gap, 5 seconds, 4 seconds.
I'm like, I, I race it over. It's like, it's, it is what it

(53:20):
is. I mean, no one's riding like top
rack and everyone, you know, we sit here and we pray like
there's guys out here all the time.
They praise BMW for this and this and that.
I'm like, and I always look at them.
I'm like, can I ask you a question?
When the last time BMW been relevant?
Never. And I'm like, they were like,
oh, it's fast. No, top racks fast, Not BMW.

(53:42):
Top rack is fast. If you take top rack off, who
wins? No one.
Yeah, nobody. So where's the other?
BMW. They did a good question.
I mean, look, the other BMWs coming to Motor America.
Yeah, that's answered your question.
So it's it's top rack. I mean, we're we're watching a
guy in history that can went from stunt riding to racing to

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can just do some incredible things on a bike.
And they're they're trying to compare him to Marquez, you
know, and I'm like, yeah, I I can see a little bit of it, but
I'm like, he's in his own own world.
I mean, got you good. Just need to step up.
Yeah, right, right. And and.
You know, before I move on to you, Louis Reese, do you think
that you know Top Rocks riding style will suit Moto GP?

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Yes and no, because I know the chassis are a lot lighter.
They're a lot different. So he's going to have to get
used to that chassis to be able to maneuver like he wants to and
move it around like he wants to,you know, that chassis.
So like he's going to flick it in there and out he goes.
OK. All right, that's.
What's up, Louis, what are your thoughts on how the but the

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races went? And you know, top rack and you
know, let's talk about the Lowe's brother.
Alex Lowe's proved you wrong this weekend.
I don't know. It's enough to get out of the
the pond, but barely proved. Me wrong.
You hate the brothers so bad. I don't hate them.

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I, you know, it's just, it's, it's comical to me how you know,
they're great riders. Obviously they have a lot of
talent, but I mean, they've beenin the sport for a very long
time. They've probably racked up the
largest repair bill of any two siblings in the history of
motorcycle racing, including theMarquez brothers, who also but

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they but they win. But they keep getting.
Rides. Yeah, exactly.
They keep getting rides, you know?
I don't. You know, I know.
One gets a ride because he's married to the owner of the team
and the other one again, incriminating photos of somebody
I don't know, but they keep getting rides and good for them.
I'm glad they keep racing. You know, he got a he got a
double podium this weekend. His brother got finished one

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race on the track, finished the other race in the in the crash
truck. So, you know, a Lowe's brothers,
always at least one Lowe's brothers, going to put it in the
bin each weekend and this weekend.
This. Weekend they didn't disappoint,
so even they are on the podium. What do you think about?
That Kawasaki motor and the and the new team, cuz I mean, it's

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pretty impressive. It's impressive.
It's very impressive. I mean, it just goes to show how
Kawasaki themselves must not be giving a damn where their motor
on another frame is doing that good.
But their own bike is, is is is a shit box like that.
You know, it just shows that Kawasaki's just not invested in

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putting anything in that team. Because if a guy, if somebody
can take the motor out of your bike, put it in a different
frame, in a different chassis, throw it up a couple of
different parts and everything else and be as good as being
motors, being, you know, on the bike with that motor.
And then Kawasaki can't even keep up with that bike.
Like what's going on, man. Like Kawasaki should kind of a

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little bit be ashamed of themselves, man.
I mean, they can be proud of themotor, but they can't be proud
of themselves. You know, the motor is great.
It's just everything around the motor is not working.
So why don't you invest the money?
Why don't you put forth the effort?
You obviously have a great. Fight.
Yeah, as Garrett, that one. You know Garrett.
Garrett would love to have any parts, anything, you know,

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develop me something, do the foot peg, give me a foot peg.
At this point, I'll, I'll go faster with a better foot peg,
you know. And then on the, on the Ducati
side, Buliga is, is a great rider.
He's a great rider. I think Ducati's biggest mistake
this year was not moving to the new bike.

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I think staying. With the old bike and thinking
that they're going to get through the season with the old
bike, with the new bike already available and not bring it to
the market, it's not available. You are then you are in car the
R. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's the one. They have to.
They have to do the R. Yeah, it's 1000.
CC the other one is 1100. Yeah, they should have.
They should. Have brought that bike to market

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sooner, man, because I think he's getting out hustled right
now because BMW has the newest, latest and greatest version of
their bike and you know, he's still on the older bike that
really is not getting any development because it's not
going to be used next year. So it's like I'm kicking the can
down the road for a year. I can't really do that much with
it. I'm restricted to whatever the

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restrictions that were already on the bike are on the bike.
And then BMW, they started the year with some struggles because
this new bike didn't work out very well and I guess they found
their way. They got a ton of horsepower,
they got a ton of agility, and the bike works great for a top
rack and whatever the bike doesn't have.
Top rack fills in that last 6-7 percent with his talent.

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And you? Know, I don't think Bulaga is I
think top rack will probably winthe championship with two rounds
left. You know, at this point, just
looking at the numbers and looking at the way that things
are kind of progressing, I thinkwith two rounds left, he'll
probably walk away with the championship, you know, unless
something dramatic happens, likeI said in the last show.

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This is the top rack. Show this is the top rack
championship to lose. You know Buluka can do
everything he can, but you know he's still got to beat that guy
in front of him and top rack is just riding man like he broke.
I think he's the 1st super bike in Magna core history to do like
a sub 135 like that's fast man. If you think about all the
people that have been riding that track for all the years

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they've been riding it, that's an accomplishment.
Anytime you break an all time lap record at a track where the
lap record I think is something like 6 years old or seven years
old and the one sub 135, nobody's ever done it.
So the dude is pushing like nobody's business.
So let's see what happens when it comes to GP, man.

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You know, I hope he can adapt. It's a different bike, but I'm
sure, you know, again, he knows how to ride a bike.
He just needs to adapt to ridinga new style of bike.
And we haven't seen a super bikeguy come over to Moto GP in a
long time and make an impact. I mean, the last one was Ben
Spies. Richloe.
He got 1, you got some. Did Richloe ever win a?
Race. Yeah, he won a race.

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In the rain. Had to be in the rain.
He got on a podium in the rain. But I think he won.
He won a race in the rain. I don't know.
I don't. Know if it was raining?
Or not, but he got one Friday. He he was.
He was the rain. Yeah, it was.
Friday, raining might have been.The last super bike.
Guy to win in the dry was Ben Speeds, so it'll be interesting

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to see what he can do, you know?Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll see. And you never know, Gonzalez
might make it over. Although he didn't race super
bike, he was super sport. Honda got some stuff shuffling
around. I think they thought, who do
they think I was going to say? I think they were hoping Zarko
was going to Honda super bike, but instead he stayed over some

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like he got some cats Kantra coming over on one of the bikes
and Jake Dixon on another bike. So I mean, you know, chubby VAVH
Jack last name. You know, he he he he's out of
it, right. He he has no seat at the moment.
He has no seat. You know what your thoughts on
on on on what Honda is doing over there in world in world

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super bike TJ. I mean, we get something up in.
One word just watching, I mean. It's it's just an interesting
shake up. It's an interesting.
Shake up. So I mean I don't know what the
best it would be for them, but Iguess Chantre going towards
super bike that's better than being a Moto GP.

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Well, yeah, I mean, who did? Well, they got rid of his seat.
I mean, you know, they you know,So he got no choice.
But like, I mean, I mean, he's anice guy and all, but I think
they were pretty good. I mean, obviously Eco Luko Ono
left. So, but like they're going to
take a few years to, I mean, Jake Dixon, I mean, it's going

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to take a few years, right? Few years.
A few, man. It's going to take some time,
yeah. Right.
It's it's it's it's so I mean, can we make sense out of why,
you know, Honda would, you know,pick?
I mean, again, I could see Jake Dixon.
But you. Know Contra, I think it's.

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Because the Asian market and they probably wanted to keep him
in the Honda fold, you know, there's a big market that's
where he's from is a very, very big market for Honda as a
company and for the units that they sell there.
So it's important to have him representation.
So I think that's why and they're giving him an
opportunity. I mean, the guy knows how to

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ride. It's not like they just giving
him an opportunity because wherehe's from or anything like that.
And I think he might do better in World Super bike just
because, you know, looking back at the way he rode in Moto 2 and
the bikes in Moto 2, even thoughthey're different, I mean,
they're, I would compare Moto 2 closer to a World Super sport
and a World Super bike than a Moto GP bike.

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You know, I think there's a big leap from a Moto GP bike back to
a World Super bike. So I think he'll be in a little
bit better position than what hewas at now.
Gives him an opportunity to helpcontinue to work forward.
Maybe he's a good development rider.
Maybe there's something that Honda saw from him from his time
on the satellite team where theywere like, hey, this guy has a
great opportunity here. He's a good development rider.

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He knows how to find issues withthe bike.
And I know Honda is working on making a new package and, you
know, developing some new stuff.So this is again an opportunity
for them. The Jake Dixon signing, you know
me, man, I'm not a huge Jake Dixon fan.
You know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not leading the Jake Dixon fan

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club. I can see why they signed him.
I mean, he's a little bit of a more mature rider.
He's going to come with a littlebit more experience and so
forth. I think he's going to come with
a little bit more fire in his belly because he didn't get that
opportunity in Moto GP, but he'sbeen a front runner in Moto 2
for a long time. So now he's going to come over
to the big pond and and if he's does similar to what Bulaga did

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coming from Moto 2, coming from where he was at, I think he
could do great. Again, the limitation there is
more than anything is, is the bike.
You know, Honda just hasn't had a strong package in a long, long
time. And no matter how many Rs they
keep adding to that name, until they come up with an actually
good bike, you got all the Rs you want.
You're not going to go further forward.

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You might have a point. Yeah.
I think we we're we're coming upon a on a on a time.
I mean, you know, Reese, let's let's talk about, you know,
motor America coda before we getout of here real quick.
You guys ready? I mean, I used to look like you
might be ready for bed, but you know, Hey, man.

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Long days, man, you know at thispoint.
Is it's, you know, everything's already planned and prepared.
It's, it's just executing the plan, right?
That's it. It's.
Execute and and. Go with it, I mean.
We're going out here to compete and when is see if we can steal
one from here. That's what's up.

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That's. What's up?
Any questions, TJ Lewis, you want to add before we get out of
here on on you know what the plan is.
I can't. Say what the plan is for Reese,
because I'm not there. But you know, I hope.
I hope the plan is for all riders and all classes to have a

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great weekend to get through theweekend safely.
Make sure everybody leaves with the same number of parts that
they showed up with, and don't leave with less or more parts.
Everybody be safe. Code is a great track to ride.
I mean, it's a beautiful layout.It's fast, it's got a little bit
of everything. I mean, it's definitely one of
the most beautiful tracks that we have here in the US.

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I hope all the riders and all the teams enjoy the hell out of
it. We're down to the last two
rounds. You know, we'll see who you
know. There's possibility this weekend
that, you know, somebody might clinch a championship, not maybe
in Super Bike, but in Super Sport and other classes.
There's a lot of opportunities to clinch.
It'll just takes a little bit ofthe right numbers.

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So we'll see, man. We'll see how the weekend goes,
but I hope everybody gets through the weekend safe.
That's that's what was my my first thought for every weekend
is, you know, I want to see all the guys and girls coming out of
the track healthy and ready for the next round and keep riding
and just have a good time, enjoythemselves.
Oh, listen to this. Talk man, I like it.
I'm getting all. Sentimental.
Bro, Right, right. What the world?

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You guys think I'm a? Dick all the time.
I've never heard this guy. Get sentimental.
Nah, I. I do, man.
You know, we're in a very, very fun, but, you know, hazardous
sport. And that's why I, you know, as
much as I might dislike a rider,I'll never root for a rider to

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get hurt or anything like that. That's not true fan.
And that to me, that's not a fan.
That's a fanatic. You know, only fanatics look for
somebody to get hurt. I like people to get through the
weekend. If you get injured, you know,
that's part of the game. But you know, I still want you
to go home to your family. I I agree I'm.
I'm torn, you know, I have two Ducatis and two Yamahas.
So, you know, I think, I think however it pans out 2420. 4

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That's it. Tuning for real quick, real
quick, man, get rid of that duck.
TJ man, I I know you're going tobe locked into Motor America and
you're a Yamaha guy for sure, but you know, you're Josh
Herron's boy. So you know, what's what's the
dealy? I mean.

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I mean, I've never heard any news that I don't know if he's
going to be participating, but I'm sure he will be.
But I'm just happy to see, you know, another big race, you
know, at Coda. So I like to see, you know, the
the roller coaster layout that it has there and then just to
see more of America there. It's just going to be excited to
see it's coming down to the crunch time with with the

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riders. So you know, I want to see Bobby
fall win. Obviously Josh Harris, my boy,
but he's on he's on a tear. And you know, I ride the Yamaha
2 on the track. So I I, you know, like my Yamaha
guys, but. Yeah, I think it's going to be.
A fun weekend, like Lewis said. I just want everyone to be be

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safe, you know, like don't want anything crazy, the bikes on
fire and stuff like that, you know.
So I just want everyone to have fun and good battles also.
So I want to see down that, you know.
I just like watching. That that straight away, you
know, like that back straight. So just to see what what the

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bikes really have, you know what, like what the Yamaha guy
or what the Ducati have and see what their legs got out there.
So I'm excited to see what that's about.
Nice, nice. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it,
man. Well, I appreciate everyone
coming on. It's the Be Forever Cool
podcast. My name is Rex 45.
We got TJ from 2 Wheels and Coffee, Reese from Attack

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Yamaha, the real Louis Ortega, the numbers guy.
Peace, peace, peace, peace.