MotoGP Germany 2025 Round 11 Recap in S5 Ep 14

MotoAmerica, MotoGP, & World SBK discussed in in the B4evaKool Podcast.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
My name is Rex 45. It's Monday night.
We got the crew in the building.We got Lewis, we got Reese, we
got TJ. What's going on, fellas?
How's everyone doing? We'll start with TJ.
Doing good, man. We had a a nice summer, a hot
weekend, good weather, a lot of racing everywhere.

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I mean club racing, you know, Moto American, Moto GP won Super
Bike. So it's good to see it all and
it's hard to get it all in. But overall, there we go.
We kind of racing nice. Nice.
That's what's up. Reece and Lewis, you guys were
out in Cali. Reece, how was your Well, I, I
from the podium standpoint, you had a great weekend, but how are

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things man? I mean, I can't complain, man.
It was a good weekend. Long weekend, three races, you
know, for the weekend is a lot, takes a lot out of everybody,
the crew and the team before we're all, you know, getting
podiums both time, all three times, actually getting on the
podium all three times is it's agreat success there for us.

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I mean, we'll take it, right? Right.
Should I give you my address so you can send that bonus money
this way? I got a wife that's going to say
should go look at you like, hey.No, not necessarily.
Lewis was good, man. You out there as well?
How are things, man? It was good.

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It was good. The the weekend was good, the
weather was great, the turn out was great.
So you know, can't really complain.
The the, the results were reallygood overall.
You know, a lot of a lot of guysthat I cheer for were on the
podium in different classes at different steps.
But All in all, it was a really successful weekend.
And, you know, we'll talk about it more, but you know, events

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wise and attendance wise, it wasa really good event for Moto
America. Yeah, yeah.
Well, let's start there. Let's talk about the the
attendance. And since you guys were there
and I was watching and TJ was watching, you know, you guys can
talk about it. You know, I, I, we had talked
about what Wisconsin was like and the attendance there and how

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crazy that was. And it sound like this was
another great weekend. So what are your thoughts on the
attendance? How was that for you, Reese?
I mean, overall, I mean, it seemed like the attendance is
great. I mean, Lou can probably
speculate in the more than I canbecause he was, I know around
more, But from what I what I could see in the paddock and

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walk around to the, you know, tothe truck.
I mean, it seemed overall it seemed great.
I mean, we had a lot of guys, a lot of fans on the grid walk, on
the Pat on the Paddock walk and a lot of VI PS out there.
So I mean, it for it seemed likeoverall, I mean, I actually
walked up to the Corkscrew one time and the Corkscrew was
actually kind of packed. So I mean, it was seems like

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overall it was a great, great time out for them.
Like I don't think they complain.
I think they had about 1000 people on a parade lab doing a
parade lab with Wayne Raney. So that's a lie.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I missed the numbers
guy. I mean, is this the kind of
numbers you like to see? Well, I mean, let me start by
saying that the one big factor that again brought a lot of the

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crowd was the baggers were there.
And you know, I know people who don't like to hear, but facts
are facts, man. The baggers were there.
Harley-Davidson had a huge, hugeset up.
There were demo rides for a bunch of different manufacturers
and the parking lot was full. And you know, a lot of the bikes
that were out there, big percentage were not sport bikes.

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So, you know, I, I don't kind ofpoo poo on that because if we
can get people out, whether they're racing baggers or
hooligans or bicycles, whatever it is to get them out, get them
out. But you know that it was, it was
packed. I will say that like the parking
lot was packed, the bike area was packed.
Getting in and out was real interesting, especially on
Saturday because of the parade lap.

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The way they kind of set up the parade lap is if you were in the
infield, getting out of the infield, you had to wait for the
entire parade lap to go by and there was just a line going
around the entire parking lot ofpeople that would just want to
do 1 parade lap. But you know, other than that,
man, I, you know, I, it's cool to see like these people get

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this opportunity to ride their bikes, even do 1 slow lap or
parade lap around Ludu Gunaseka.You, I know for a fact as people
are going up that hill on a, youknow, 900 LB Harley-Davidson,
like they might, they have a smile from ear to ear 'cause
they're like, oh, I'm going to go down the roller coaster.
And then they get up there and they're like, oh shit.
I'm sure they had like a little bit of a oh shit moment at the

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top of the hill 'cause it's not your normal little hill.
So I was actually looking at theCorkscrew, not hoping anything
happens, but anticipating somebody's going to eat shit.
But luckily like they actually had a police officer at the top
of the hill, like actually slowing people down.
So nobody tried to like back in a bagger and end up in the Kitty

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litter. So it was.
It was good though, man, it was a good time.
Do you do you think that the Bagger series is going to help
our Harley with their numbers a lot and and hopefully put them
on in the black? No, I mean there's Harley needs
some internal business restructuring more so than just

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the baggers. The baggers are great because
it's American, Americana type racing like this is something
that their core fan base can getbehind.
But for Hardy to get out of the doldrum they're in, it's more of
a internal management restructuring.
I mean, I think they've had a bunch of different C level
executives come in and go out over the past 5-6 years and they

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just need like a really good C level CEOCMO that knows the
industry but is not kind of so narrow minded within the
industry, like not so doesn't have so much tonal vision.
You have to know your customer, your Harley-Davidson core
customer is this particular person, but you also have to
understand that that particular core customer is very small and

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you know, a lot of the customersare aging out.
And so Harley has to kind of go back to basics.
They have to build a motorcycle that's sub 8000 bucks to get
like a new rider interested in it.
Because again, if you have to get if a new rider has to go out
of pocket 15 grand for Harley, like it's not easy for a new
rider to be like, Oh man, I got to you know, I want it Harley as

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my first bike, but you know, 1516 thousand this Kawasaki
Vulcan looks really good. You know, so Harley just has to
do a lot of high level business restructuring, put the right
people in the right place, go back to their core, make their
money off what they make their money off of Brandon
Harley-Davidson apparel. You know, having people inside

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that Harley-Davidson Echosphere where like everything is Harley
related. It's like you buy Apple product,
you buy Apple product and then you got to buy this other Apple
product because you buy that other Apple product.
It works great with this Apple product and Harley's the same
way you buy a Harley. But then I got to buy a Harley
jacket. I got to buy Harley gloves and I
got to buy Harley this and there's going to be a Harley
bike man. I got to go and all of a sudden,
like that's how you kind of and they lost that for a while

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because they didn't have that right people in place.
But I think they, the team they put together now looks like they
know what they're doing. And it's going to take a little
while, but I think within the next like 2436 months, Carly
will be able to start turning itaround a little bit.
Got you. I got a question for both you
and Reese. As far as the the attendance I

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saw Josh Herron said he sold outof all his merch over the week
in attendance to do you guys at Yamaha looking at that saying
having similar things to your riders as far as them selling
merchants, how's that looking with them selling merch?
And then is Dainese kind of looking at, you know, what the
tenants is looking like and seeing what's happening, trying

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to see how you know we may we see a Dainese Harley suit.
I'll let you answer first. I mean, I mean just be
speculating. I mean talking to the some of
the the upper management in Yamaha, I mean, we take notice

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to, you know, some of the guys, the teams selling merch.
I mean, I brought it up it it gives the fan, I mean a lot of
fans that come in, they actuallywant they want a piece of their
brand, whether it's Yamaha, Honda, you know, Suzuki,
whatever it is. They want a piece of their
brand, especially their favoritewriter.
They just want a something to piece.

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I mean, it's a lot of times we can't even as as crew, you can't
even leave none of your stuff out because it's going to walk
away. It's going to walk away.
It's gone. You got to put it up, put it up
and put it away from somewhere because it's not as on.
But I mean, we do take notice ofthat.
I mean, it has been taking notice.
I mean, it's kind of getting worked on right now.

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I mean, it's all up to upper management to see how see where
it can go. And I mean, I, I speculated to
them. I mean, it's a good thing
because when fans come to race, like I said, they just want a
piece and that's what they want.They want to take someone home
with them saying I've been here,I met this rider and you know, I
got it. I got his T-shirt.
You know, that's what they want.They want something.
Oh yeah. Yeah, on my end, I mean, for the

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riders themselves, I'm actually trying to get work with a
company just to help the riders kind of build their own merch
and be able to put some money intheir pocket, because building
merch on your own is is not easy.
I mean, it's a pretty big investment for some of these
guys that don't have deep pockets to do it.
And then selling at a detract, that's a whole other investment

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because now you have to pay somebody at the track to be
working the booth all weekend. So what we're doing with some of
our riders is we're working withthis company.
The company will make the products for the riders.
And the riders will just have like a little QR code on their
suits. And if you want some of the
merch from the rider, you just scan the QR code on their suits.
It'll take you directly to theirwebsite.
You can order it, it'll get shipped right to your house.

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And that way you can support therider because a big percentage
of that goes to the riders, a very small percentage goes to
making the product in the back end.
And this is like something that we worked out with this company
And I, you know, it's very important for me for the riders
to see a significant chunk of change for everything that their
name or their numbers on. And so far we've got a few

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riders in the program and we're going to, you know, try to get
more riders. But again, the other piece of
that is some of the teams, depending on what you sign with
the team, the team now owns yourname, your number.
So you can't make, you can't even make money on your own name
or number. The team has to make money on
it. And if the team doesn't want to

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make the shirts, then there's noadditional income.
And if they do, they keep the income because, well, I'm paying
you. And this is like one of these
weird things where I'm telling alot of these riders,
unfortunately, most of these guys are their own managers or
their mom and dads are their managers.
And a lot of them are not business savvy.
And they're just so happy to be getting paid for their son or

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their, you know, to, to ride a motorcycle that they'll sign
some of these contracts that when you really dig into them,
it's like, it's great. You're getting paid.
You don't have to pay their, youknow, but like this is an
opportunity that you're missing here.
This is an opportunity that you're missing here.
And even within the contract, sometimes there's pieces that
are missing that why don't you have this in here for your for
your kid? Why don't you have this in here

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for your kid? You know, and again, it's, it's
great because if you came from nothing and you're getting paid
to ride a motorcycle, you think you made it.
But the people that know sometimes are taking advantage
of these people that don't know and they're leaving a lot of
money on the table. So we're trying to work with
some of these riders to kind of educate them a little bit more
before you put your name on that, on that contract, like

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read it, understand what you're signing, what you're getting,
and what you're giving away. Because if you give too much
away and like, it's great, hey, I'm going to make 90 grand this
year to ride a motorcycle and not pay.
But you left another 60-70 grandout there because this company
was willing to pay you $30,000 in contingency and this company
is willing to pay you 25,000. But since you signed that

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contract, you can't do any of that.
Yeah, now that's a that's, that's, you know, education, you
know, financial literacy, you know, these are things that
when, when you know, that everyone had to stumble through.
We've heard it from Lewis Hamilton all the way down.
When, when, when the, you know, parents are in the business and

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helping them. And you, you can only take them
so far. And, and sometimes even that
gets a little relationships get severed in that process of, of,
of, you know, letting people go and, and that stuff.
So it is definitely, definitely crazy, but it's cool what you
what you guys are doing and, andhelping these writers out or
trying to. Let's talk about the race.

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We'll start with TJ on this, youknow, race 1.
You know my thoughts when I saw the end of it, I was like, man,
Josh might get another, you know, 3 peat.
But it was interesting to see what Bobby Fong was doing and
stuff like that. I was going to text you Reese
and talk trash but I figured oh wait.

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And lucky thing I didn't, because the weekend turned out
pretty good for you guys, so I might have been PJ Jacobs too.
Soon, too soon. Too soon.
So, TJ, man, did you catch the race and what were your
thoughts? I mean, I caught more of a race
too, but I mean, I, I always just like Josh Heron, you know,

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that's one of my favorite guys I've been watching since I was,
you know, guy getting into bikessince like 2014.
So just watching him do what he's doing, just very
impressive. So just just seeing him wins is
good to see. But I do also like, you know, my
Yamaha guys out there. I definitely grew from Barbie
Fong and Jake Kanye. So for what Bobby Fong was doing

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to keep up in front, it was goodto see.
I think it was definitely, I don't want to say it was
overdue, but you know, I think especially Reese, I know you
guys got a room for Bobby to, you know, you know, to try to
stay in the front of the pack and prove himself more.
I know he's been on different teams and like and and in the
past, but over I thought it was the first two races that were

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really good. Happy for see Bobby and Jake get
on the podium. So that was pretty cool.
But yeah, I got no complaints about the weekend.
I thought it was really good overall.
I was, I also was watching some of the other guys like in the

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Super sport class, you know how Shelton and PJ Jacobson arguing.
I thought it was cool bringing some some lifes for a little
bit. But.
And then there's obviously some incidents going down the court.
School people were getting ran over a little bit.
So it was a little interesting weekend and seeing the parade.

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You know, they, they teach you in class that you know, in, in,
in Penguin class that, you know,if you fall, just, you know,
stay on the ground because you know, bikes are run over
something 10 inches or at least.And we we got to see it live.
I got ran over before on the track after I crashed.
So I know it's, I know it's possible, but for what's, what's

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McCall to stay up? That was pretty, that was the
first time I saw somebody actually stay up after running
over someone. So that was pretty well to see.
We'll talk about that a little bit more.
Lewis, were you you were there in person?
I don't know if you saw all of the racing doing all the other
stuff you were doing, but what was your thought on race one?
Race one and super bike was really I, you know, I thought it

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was good. You know, I wasn't a super fan
of the results because I, you know, there's a couple of guys
in that class that I cheer for more than others.
But you know, you got to you gotto give it to Josh Herron, like
he was able to kind of get out in front and especially had a
big crash on Friday. So, you know, a lot of people
are like wondering, you know, how you going to come back
because you know, you're pretty sore the day after a crash like

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that, whether you have an airbag, you don't have an
airbag, you know, breaking it. You're still sore, man.
You get whipped around like that.
Your head gets whipped around. Your neck is stretched like so
it was, it was good to see that even if he was hurt like he did,
was well enough to like be very competitive.
And I was hoping for slightly better results for the Yamaha
team. But it was a good Little Mix All

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in all. We had, you know, a Yamaha,
Ducati and BMW all right there. So it was a good mix.
And then the first super sport race.
I was super surprised because you know, I, I know Blake's
really fast, but you know, I've talked to him a lot of times and
you know, sometimes I think he'sgetting more and more confident

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in himself because at the beginning of the year he was
like, you know, he's raced the Super Sport before on the R6.
Now he's on the R9 and he was really competitive on the R6,
but now he's like, you know, I'mon the R9.
It's a new bike, it's a new team.
I have to get ready for these new things.
And Matt has been with this teamalready before, so he kind of

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knows the dynamics of the team. And then he also starts looking
at the starting grid. And it's like super bike rider,
super ride, super bike race racewinner, super bike race winner,
British super bike race winner, super bike race winner, factory,
super bike race winner Blake Davis.
And I said you can't look at it like that.

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You know, you got to look at it as this is a great opportunity
for you to ride against hands down the fastest guys.
It's not you and a bunch of kidsfighting each other for milk
money. Like now this is like
professional league and you got to see how good are you.
You know, this is how you prove how good you are.
And he's been mixing it up, staying in the top three,

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staying in the top four, bunch of little podiums here and there
and, you know, got a win not toolong ago.
And then he gets his win Saturday.
And when he got his win Saturday, when I spoke to him,
he actually was really confident.
He's like, you know, I, I actually felt good.
I wasn't like I was just riding like I was just going out there.
And and I give that a little bitof of credit that to to to his

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coach Harvey for his because I mean, I see him sitting with him
for a long period of time, you know, corner by corner, looking
at the data, running things down, explaining to him how to
block people that are trying to pass him, how to block pass when
he passes people, how to not leave the door open.
And you saw in the last lap of the last race again, Camp

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Peterson, he took a 2 1/2 foot wide R line and he made that
shit the size of an 18 Wheeler. Like he, he was everywhere that
you wanted to put your bike to try to set up a pass.
He made sure his bike was there.And he messed up your, your
inside line, your outside line. Like he made that bike 16 feet
wide on a 26 wide track. So it was, it was good race

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craft. And it's good to see a, you
know, a young guy like that, like literally man, like growing
up right in front of you, maturing right in front of you.
Yeah, and you leap some bounds because that was a pretty
impressive writing that he was doing.
And even in his, even when they were on the grid and he got
interviewed, he felt pretty. I mean, most writers say they're
going to try to win and stuff like that, but he he sounded

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pretty confident in that quick interview.
And and like he had like he likehe had a secret weapon or
something. You know, I and he, he went out
and did it. He had extra weight on his bike
because they added a weight to the R nines for him and for
Matthew because of, you know, they said that they were, you
know, a little too fast. So they actually added ballast
to both of the bikes. What is?

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What is? The his he's sponsored by like
N2 track aids or something like that I think.
He's with he just straight with track racing and then that's
since he's with track racing, Track racing is the overall
team, so everything goes throughtrack racing.
He can have his own gear and hisown helmet, but then he can't
really have a lot of his own personal sponsors.
Everything has to kind of come through.

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The team. So he's got his gear sponsor for
his suit, his boots, his gloves and his helmets, but everything
else kind of goes through the team.
Yeah, no, I really agree with you.
He has been riding really well. So he's actually at the Loudon,
the 100th Loudon Classic. And I remember this was back
when he had the missing tooth. You know, everyone's caught him
like he has it. I thought you got it.

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Fixed. We puts it.
We puts it in for interviews. But yeah, he's been riding very
well since then. I think he got third place in
the classic, you know, got some money and I've been watching him
since then and he has been improving.
It is nice to see him get a couple of podiums, especially

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Matt Laguna. So, but that's cool what he can,
what he can do. Like when you talk about the
contracts, see your real numbersguys.
So definitely want to sign something where you can benefit
off of, not just just fit in thebooks, you know, so.
Right, right, right. Reese, man, you were there in
the paddock the whole weekend. What were your thoughts on race

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one and were you a little bit worried?
I mean, I don't know how you could be worried 2nd and 3rd,
but you know, we were a little bit worried.
We we, you know, after race one.I mean, race one was good.
I mean, you got to give it up tolike it, like Lewis said, you
got to give it to Josh. You know, you had a a horrendous

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crash Friday and they come back and and they put it on the
podium, you know, and still do what he can do.
It's, you know, top class and it's it's it's one of the few
that can still do it. I mean, he's one of the, as we
call it, the O GS out there and he can still do what he do for
for, you know, I wish Bobby was a little bit more aggressive on

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race one. Throughout the weekend, Bobby's
been the fastest and he was the fastest on Saturday.
He could have beaten Josh. He just didn't want to stick it
up in there on him, which I don't know why, but I mean he
came back in race 2 and three and showed that he can stick it
up in there. So I mean.

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That after race one. We gave, now we gave.
We gave him some some some good ribbon after race one.
We're like, yo man, if I wanted to watch the Marquez brothers,
I'd be watching Moto GP. Bro you got to pass the guy.
From. You can't just stay in second
place and watch your brother winthe race.
And I said, I said man, oh, shoot, Lou, he said, yeah, I
know, man. I need to be a little bit more
aggressive. Said I got it.

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Next time, don't worry about it.I like, I hope so.
And I told him, I said, hey, man, Lewis said.
He ain't aggressive. He's taking his his levers back.
Taking my gear back. Let's let's talk about Cam.
Cam crashed. Cam crashed out and then got
back on a bike and it's pretty impressive.
I mean, he finished 6th overall,but you know, is this something

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that he he has to stop crashing,right?
He got to stop finishing races. I mean, between last year and
this year, you know, he's he's definitely been crashing out a
lot and he he had the pace. What are your thoughts, TJ?
Yeah, I mean, I mean, especiallyjust knowing what you've been
through in the past, like the expectations for a lot of people

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a little higher on him. But yeah, I think he definitely
needs to stop crashing. I know last year there's a lot
of them out of his own, but I know Laguna Seca, he's from
California, so he had a lot of family attending.
I don't know if that really effects how he rides.
I know he's a pro, so, but if hewants to, you know, stay upfront

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in contention, you know, you gotto get the points.
You know, you got to find a way to at least finish, see the
checkered flag, get some points and then go from there.
I mean, just straight DNF. That's a huge loss, especially
knowing how the top guys are running.
You know, they're not trying to crash at all.
Especially like Josh Herring, you know, Bobby and all those

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guys. So you know, he, he can do it.
I mean, he's he's he's a, he definitely could win a
championship, but I don't know how far he is now.
I got to check the points but definitely needs to figure out
how to stay on. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, Cam is fourth in the points right now.
He's like 82 points behind the leader, which is PJ.

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So with with the amount of rounds left like I was.
I was talking about Cambodia. I thought you sold by Cam
Peterson. My bad, my bad.
I mean, Cambodia and Cam Peterson do about the same.
They both crash a lot when they hit it and there's a lot of
pressure on them to do good. So when you said one Cam, I was

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like, it's like talking about the same one.
You know, what do you how do, how do we stop crashing race?
I mean, how does that like, I mean, you know, I know you're
not going to give them advice, but if you were.

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I mean with Cam, I mean he, he was kind of pissed off after
race one. I mean, he, he said it to me.
I saw him going down the paddockand I asked him what happened.
He, he's like, man, just don't fucking know.
He, he feels like he just told me.
He just doesn't know, you know, normally he knows what happened.
He's like, all right, I know what happened.

(25:30):
I know what I did. But it's just like any writer,
when they don't know what happened, it kind of confuses
them. They're like, I don't know what
happened. I'm trying to figure out, I want
to know what happened so I can correct it, but he just couldn't
figure out what happened. I mean, it's if Cam can stop
crashing or stop having that misfortune or that little bit of
bad luck. I mean, Cam would he'll be
dominating the championship. I mean, right now he's sitting

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second. I checked his more, I checked
before we left and I think he's 31 points back behind Josh.
But I mean, he's still right there in the championship hunt.
I mean, because we still got a good way to go.
I mean, the top four guys are all right there.
So the championship is still tight as it can be all the way

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through. If we could stay with the top
four guys, which is probably going to be all the way through.
I mean, but like Cam, I think I think when we're coming up,
we're coming up to Virginia. I think Cam does a good in there
in mid Ohio. I think he does good.
So I think he's going to be a fourth to be wrecking with and I
think he's you can see in his interview he was kind of pissed.

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And so I think coming these nextcouple rounds, I think Cam's
going to be one of the guys thatyou got to just be aware of.
He's coming. Nice, nice.
And you know, the rest of the weekend Yamaha did really well,
but let let's talk about Sean Dylan Kelly.
What's what like? Is the Suzuki just just just an

(26:55):
old machine and they just neededto a different manufacturing
there or is it you know some rider situations?
No, I mean, if you if you talk to some of the guys that are
riding out with the Suzuki's, they'll tell you that the
Suzuki's actually have a lot of the tracks.
They have the best grip. Like a lot of the riders will

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tell you, like they'll follow Suzuki in and they're like, man,
like you don't hear the tractioncontrol kicking in so hard for
the Suzuki's, but they're pulling really well.
So they've got good grips, man. They just got bad luck.
I mean, when's the last time in a professional race that a chain
came flying off? Larry Pecker.
How long ago was that? Like 10 years?

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It wasn't. Recent I think it happened with
Vignalas. Might have happened with
Vignalas in Moto GP. Yeah, but he probably broke that
link himself. He was trying to get a contract,
bro, you remember that? It's possible.
But yeah, but like, you rarely see stuff like that happen, you
know, and then he was also battling through injury because

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he had a crash where he hurt hishand.
So for him to be battling up front and then have a chain pop
when he was like at least in thetop 6, like that's just, you
know, like I understand why he got pissed off when he break
broke the tail section. Man.
I would have like done the same.Yeah.
But I don't think there's anything wrong.
I mean, the M14 knows how to build bikes, they know how to
build winners. They've had they've had a lot of

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championships and you know, the,the rumor right now in the
paddock and then the ether is that for 2027, Suzuki's going to
have a new lineup of motorcyclesand they're going to start with
the big boys. So they're going to have a brand
new Gixxer 1000 and it's going to be completely revamped.
And then they're going to have something for the Super sport
class and they're going to, you know, so they're going to revamp

(28:41):
their whole lineup. So you just got to push this old
man along another year or so andhope that the new kid that they
bring out is competitive, you know, because realistically
we're they're still racing on 20year old technology.
I. Was going to say old man, more
like grandpa. Dude, it is.
Yeah. At this point he's sending his
kids kids to college. Still love my Suzukis.

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I say I do too man but I know that a 2006 Suzuki and a 2017
Suzuki are like 98% the same minus an IMU and somebody work.
That's it. Same bullshit.
So Reese, for you guys, what's the take away for the weekend?
Is this a kind of like, you know, it's it's a good stepping

(29:26):
stone going into VIR as far as you know, staying on that that
number one, the first step or isit kind of like let's see what
happens at VIR? No, I mean we take away, we were
talking about it on race three. I mean, I mean, we got,
everyone's got some good data. I think it's a good stepping
stone for us. I mean, we're going into VR with
some great confidence. I mean, so with Jake, I mean,

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everybody looks at Jake saying, oh, you know, does he still have
it? But if you look at actual race
three, he was running a consistent 24.
And the only reason that from what we know, if something
happened in the bag once SDK's chain came off, I mean, it was a
bunch of oil leak back onto the bike.

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And Jake kind of kind of rode around it, but he had to take a
little bit easy because he thought it was on his tire and
he realized it was it was good to go.
It was he pushed back up, but itwas too late to even try to make
a move and do anything like that.
But he ran a consistent, he was in a consistent 24.
His times were at the top three guys.

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So we're, we're taking a lot of confidence going into, to the
next round and to a lot of data.And you know, I think I think
coming into VR is going to be a little different, little
different change of the change of the tide.
Got you, got you before. I don't know how.
I mean, I don't know, TJ, if yousaw out of Twins Cup, I want to

(30:55):
talk about that a little bit because these young kids are
really fast on on a twins cup. It's like they're like, you
know, 151670 year olds and then there's like 35 plus at at the
back. At isn't that not, isn't it like
17 to 23 or something? There's some old dudes in there.
I'm like I'm I'm ready. Yeah, you can rate.

(31:20):
You can rate for. 55 in in the Twins Cup.
Really. Yeah, yeah.
So I got like a couple years. I got yeah, I was going to say
me and you got like 2-3 years tolike get this in before we get
we get the cut off now I'm not about to get my ass beaten 13
year old. Sorry man, I'll keep my ass in
the paddock. Well, you know it.
Come on, man, you got to show up.

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But that's not the reason why I'm talking about.
Not because I'm going racing. But you know, what are your
thoughts on Chapin Avery? And I can forget.
Oh, Mario. Demario.
Demario, I mean those guys like I, I think he's just going to
run away with it, right? Demario because he's the he's
he's. He's he he technically he

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shouldn't be in that class. He was supposed to have a super
sport ride and then it fell apart at the last moment because
he was going to do double duty. He was actually going to do
twins Cup to defend his plate and do super sport and a super
sport thing kind of fell apart, didn't come together and he
ended up doing twins and the Kramer Cup.

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And even in the Kramer Cup, he'skind of running away with that
one as well because again, this for his age, he's at the talent
level where he should be in thatnext class up.
And it he kind of like stayed inthis class because again, he
wanted to defend his plate, but he had another opportunity that
didn't happen. And you know, Reese will tell
you, like in the motor, in the paddock, in a professional

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racing paddock, only 1% of promises actually ever comes
true. 99% of promises never cometo to fruition.
And this is kind of what happened to him.
So like right now he's in this place where he's like, you know,
everybody like, you know, it's alittle bit cockiness, but dude,
I'm winning by 10 seconds. Like I'm just out here riding a

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track day while everybody else is racing for second and third.
You know, I'm hoping somebody sees how good I am and gives me
an opportunity on a different ina different class next class up
because you know, I'm I'm, what am I doing here, man?
Like even though I'm only 16 or 1616 years old, like I need to
be in a different class. I can't, you know, I can't keep

(33:23):
racing against these guys that I'm beaten by 10.
You know, I'm lapping guys less than 8 laps into the race like
it's crazy. I think he had that.
I think he has a from the rumor mill.
I think he has a seat over thereat HSBK next year.
Nah, nothing. Like I said, 99% of the promises
never come to fruition man. Well, he did do it.

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He did do. It he did a test and then all of
a sudden Cam Peterson healed up real quick.
I was like, no, no, I'm good, I'm good.
I'll be back next week to ride my bike, man.
Don't, don't. You don't need to give that kid
my bike. Can't lose your seat if you
never let the kid ride your bike.

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Well, remember there is there was supposed to be two, there
was supposed to be two riders over there this year, but the
other one's here. So that's the rumor mill that
that seat that's vegan. He may end up slotting in.
OK, I. Mean that was the rumor.
Yeah, he, he deserves, he definitely deserves a seat where
he can be more competitive for sure.
I mean, he's a young kid and he's and he's young kids.

(34:25):
I mean, they're going to be coming for a lot of people's
seat in the next few years. Honestly, I think there's three
kids under the age of 18 right now that they're the, the future
Cambodia's Jake Gonyea's of thisclass, man.
Like they're, you know, they're the three or four kids that I
see right now that I'm like these three, these 3 or 4 kids

(34:47):
are, are, are lethal, man. I I didn't, I didn't get to
watch the the Twins Cup, but I was going to say it yet it looks
good seeing Mr. Matthew Chapin his second, you know, even
though he did 10 seconds behind Demario, but he also had almost
10 second gap within in second place.

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So for him winning last year anddid he win?
Yeah, he won last year, the Junior Cup, Junior Cup, Junior
Cup and then he moved up. So I think he had potential as
well. Yeah, no, for sure, man.
I mean, again, if you take the Mario out of the the the series

(35:32):
between Chapin and Hank Vosberg,which hasn't been in the series
that long, like for a kid to just come in, I mean with I
think he missed the first 2-3 rounds and just kind of jump in
and already right at the top, you know, getting up there in
the points. Like those two kids take the
Mario out of it. Those two kids are like the
fastest kids by far in the TwinsCup, man, by far.

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Like amazing young kids, man. Pretty wild to see, but let's
get into Moto the GP, which is also pretty wild to see.
Crazy weekend overall. I could've finished that race
and the points, you know that right?
I just didn't have to crash. I could've got lap 7 times.
I could've leg out lap 7 times and still walk through with a

(36:14):
couple of points. You could've crash first.
You could've. That's that's the first time in
a long time that I've only seen ten bikes finish a race.
I'm trying to think. It's been a long time, man.
It must have been a rain race. Yeah, because it has to be a
rain race, but that what do you think?
I mean, they started with 18 riders and, and ended with with

(36:37):
with well after with 10. You know that that was pretty
wild to see. But what are you guys thoughts
on the the Sprint qualifying andand then over our weekend, we'll
start with TJ. I mean, so, yeah, I mean, the,
the the first time we get out there, everyone just want to see
what Mark want to do. But I I feel like the practice

(36:58):
and all that went pretty well for the Sprint with the rain
coming into play. You know, we all know Mark was
going to be Mark. And at this point it's it's
really over. He's shown that just to show him
the way his class of just even though he got to start a little
bit and in the poll and to come back to take from 6th place to

(37:21):
manage through the rain and to still get in the 1st place after
just 15 laps, you know, so and you know, this just shows this
is finesse and his his like how smart he is and what he knows
what he has on the table right now.
So he knows this is to lose. But I thought overall for the

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spread that Zacky being back up there was pretty cool.
And I think KTM still needs somework.
It was tough to see Maverick go down the way he did.
So, you know, that was a little blow.
And so, yeah, so that was a pipedown for them.
And then especially what happened into multi deli, I

(38:08):
don't know. Was that in the Sprint of the
GP? Yeah, that was the Sprint, Yeah.
Yeah. So that was that was tough to
see as well, but because he was running good, but overall, you
know, Mark Renew was going to take that as his king of
saturated. Nice, nice.
What are your thoughts? Reese?

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May Honda look good out there. Zarco in the qualifying, not in
the race they fell back, but in qualifying there's some other
brands that look good and keep them qualifying.
No, I mean they look good. I mean, I got a chance to catch
a little bit of the qualifying near the end.
I mean, from what I saw, they look real good.
You know, it's nice to see otherbrands up there in the top, you

(38:50):
know, in the top place and then competing and wanting to compete
and see if they can get back on the top step of the podium.
So I'm kind of happy that I saw Luke Marie and, you know, Zarko
and all them, you know, qualifying doing a lot better.
You know, I wish they I wish it wasn't a big crash fest in the
in the race and, you know, to, to see them actually compete

(39:13):
with other, you know, brands andnot just compete with 10 bikes,
you know, but hey, I mean, you take advantage of what you got
and, and go from there. I mean, like, you know, TJ said,
I mean, at the end of the day, right now, I mean, championship
is kind of over. So you're pretty much fighting
for a second, third and 4th to see where you're at just to get

(39:33):
your performance money. And I mean, that's a big
paycheck for them. So Miles will just go ahead and
get for it. Lewis, what are your thoughts,
man? Over all over all weekend.
I mean, I, I, I, I had Mark winning both races, the Sprint
race when the rain came down andhe had that moment and he ran

(39:54):
wide. I was like, oh, maybe, maybe
somebody else can take this one.Because in the rain, you know,
it's a little bit of a equalizer.
And Bez got a really good jump and, you know, Mark had to mix
it a little bit to get through some of the riders.
But then once he started, get into that open air.
And just started putting his head down and I mean I was
following him through one lap where Digi was behind him.

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And when the lap started Digi was only like 1 bike length
behind him. And as soon as they got past the
triple left handers, like Digi was like 25 bike lengths behind
him. I was like this is a wrap bro.
Like bro, how do you go how you get 25 bike lengths on the dude
that was a bike length behind you in a series of three
corners. And it's just like this when it

(40:38):
comes to counterclockwise tracks.
I looked this morning, he has like a 59% winning percentage.
So if there's a counterclockwisetrack, he's going to win one out
of every two races, more than one out of every two races.
Like that's a crazy number to think about.
Like this dude is going to line up at these 6 tracks because
they're 6 tracks that are counterclockwise on the on the

(40:58):
schedule and he's the chance of him winning at least four out of
the six is better than the chance of anybody else winning
even one out of the six. Like that's crazy bro.
Make no sense. And then Sunday I kind of like,
I kind of knew like if he got some, some clear air in front of
him, he was going to be gone. I was surprised that his brother
ended up with his brother ended up because remember, he's racing

(41:21):
with a broken hand. And you know, that's got to be
rough, man, because after a while, I don't care how much,
you know, they shoot you up. So you can only numb your hands
so much. You still need to feel the bars,
you still need to feel the brakelever.
So you're going to have to struggle through some of that
pain. But lucky for him, Saxon Ring is
not a heavy breaking track. So you don't have to put all
that extra weight on your hands for that hard breaking zones.

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So he can kind of give himself like 4-5, six corners before
that next heavy breaking zone, because really it's only two
heavy breaking zones, the front straight and the very bottom of
the waterfalls where you need tobreak to make the left.
Outside of that, it's not like, you know, you come into a first
gear turn or anything. So right.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, Peck.

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I mean the the the way he tumbles and sprints man like it
makes no sense man. No, it it does.
It does not make any sense. You know, we had Vinales,
Frankie Oliveira, you know, these guys crashed out and and
and I think all of them are, we know for sure of Banalas and

(42:25):
Frankie hurt. I think Oliver is hurt too, you
know. Mere walk the Wayans gave, yeah.
Yeah, mere walk. The new Oliveira.
So much fat, you know the new. Oliveira.
Listen, I, I, I feel bad for me for sure, and I agree with took
him out very apologetic, but I mean, he entered that I agree he

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entered that corner pretty. Fast he had Yeah, he.
He had no chance of making that man.
There was no. Chance.
None. Like none.
Making that that was a wrap. It was none.
Which one you think these guys going to be ready after the
summer break? Vinales, Oliveira and Frankie?
I don't. Know Frankie's left on that one.

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Frankie's tough, I mean. Frankie, Frankie didn't, but
Frankie didn't break anything. You know, it's just, it's just
injuries. So like, I haven't heard that,
you know, he broke anything. Vinales.
He dislocated his shoulder. Right.
Just dislocated his shoulders. So like some therapy?
I mean you can come back from dislocated shoulder pretty

(43:31):
quickly. You just got to be careful that
you don't re injure it if you'renot going to get if it doesn't
need surgery. Just don't.
Be like A and yeah, and then Olivera.
I mean, he's going to end up hurt again after the first race
of the season, you know, So he might as just stay out, bro.
Just he needs, he needs a whole side of the garage like blessed

(43:52):
or like some sort of like some kind of juju put in, get the
spirits out. Yeah.
I agree. He needs another Joanne Mia to
take some of that juju away fromhim for sure.
After this weekend, do you guys think that Zarko should get that
factory seat with Honda? I think it's I think it should

(44:18):
be that crashed. I know he crashed out up and I
mean, I, I was thinking about this before he crashed out, if
he didn't crash out ultimately, but he did crash out, which by
himself too, you know. I say he does deserve it, but no
I don't. I mean, I'd rather put a younger
guy on there because he's older,he can help develop.
If you put a younger guy on a non factory, it's kind of going

(44:41):
to fade away again, you know, give.
Him the factory contract, but just on just keeping where he is
out of LCR, yeah. Yes, that's more.
That's a lot better. As far as who's going to give
Marini's seat, that's still up in the air because, you know,
now we got this whole new Aprilia, Hubba Ballou where
they're saying that they got a contract and unless, you know,

(45:04):
they get a judge to say otherwise or something like
Martine's not going to be able to ride for anybody else.
And then during the CEO pretty much said the same thing.
If he's not riding with a Preliaand there's nothing that legally
says that he doesn't have to ride with him.
If he doesn't want to ride with a Prelia, we're we won't give
him a license to ride anywhere else, right?
Right. I think that I think that, oh,

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hey, Martin should have called up Bazecki and give him some
money and tell him to slow down a little bit because, oh, now.
Make me look good. Make me look good.
Now that the has. Been on the box a couple of
times. It's hard to sit here and say
it's not competitive. But again, it's competitive on
specific tracks just like any other bike.
It's the Ducati is the only bikethat's competitive on 90% of the

(45:48):
tracks. Every other bike is competitive
on 807060 depending on the bike.KDM they've got their bikes
their their tracks where they'recompetitive.
Yamaha has their bikes and tracks where they're
competitive. Ducati is the only one that like
weekly at almost every track is at that high level that they can
race at every track and be competitive.
And so you don't think that Bazecki showing that, that he's

(46:11):
been the most competitive on Aprilia as far as being
consistent competitive, being competitive where, you know,
Alesh, you know, who won here, won there, competitive here,
competitive here. But the last few rounds, Bizek,
he's been continuously, continuously moving forward and
and now he's been upfront for the last since Silverstone.

(46:31):
Well, let's see how he's doing after after the break, you know,
let's see how he does in the second-half of the year.
Because if he can keep that consistency and again, he
doesn't have to be in the top five every race, just stay
consistent in that top 6-7 everyrace.
You know, don't crash, finish the races, get the points
because that's where you're really going to shine apart.
Because remember at the beginning of the year, he had a

(46:52):
problem where he had really bad starts and then in the middle of
the race he was the only one that had pace.
But then he was in 18th place and he finished in 12.
Now he's not having that problemwhere he drops back in the
beginning. He's able to stay competitive in
the beginning, the middle and the end.
So maybe they found something because again, he was first
year, they got to set the bike up, tried a bunch of different
settings. What works for him.

(47:13):
Maybe they found something that works for him that now lets him
be competitive beginning, middleand end.
And let's see if they can carry that over to the second-half of
the year. If they, I mean, I would love to
see Aprilia up there right at the front with Ducati and
another one or two manufacturers.
Yeah, I, I don't know what the weather condition was like, but
it was the most, he was the mostcompetitive manufacturer until
he crashed out against the Ducati in the main race itself,

(47:36):
even in the in the Sprint, but in the main race, because I
mean, Alex tried to pass him, hegot him back.
I forget who else tried to pass them and and got them back and
and kept and and kept the position.
It's just gravity. Meeting bro busy.
It'd have been good to see Pretty back on the podium again,

(47:57):
but that was unfortunate to see like 3-4 riders go down to Turn
1. Yeah, that turn one, man, I
there must have been oil or something there because there
was guys that were crashing before they even tipped in, man.
Like it looked like they just got on a brake and the second
they hit that brake lever, like the front would just fold.
Yeah, like those guys crashing early.

(48:18):
Early. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we had eight riders crash out and I mean the worst
ones were Bazecki and Dejanantoni, even Acosta because
he crashed out early. And lucky thing, that bike dug
in in in the in the middle because that could have went
back on a track. Yeah.
Any thoughts on, you know, outside of oil or anything?

(48:42):
I don't think it was oil. You think it was the
temperature? Maybe.
I think it was the entire temperature.
Yeah, actually I can't call. It say again.
Recently, maybe his gleaning wastoo low or something.

(49:02):
No, I was saying I'm I'm with everybody.
I don't know what was on this heavy summer when I tried
because you're not even on Tipping Point yet and you're
just crashing out like what's going on with this?
That's too many people in one turn.
Yeah, no crazy. Lewis, are you guys going to put
a clause in more of a Deli's contract there for replace

(49:25):
zipper next time and do not force?
So they, they Dorner released like a a press release yesterday
or something where they grabbed the suit, they did a full
inspection of the suit. They can't find anything wrong
with it. They couldn't find anything that
mechanically was wrong with the suit.
So they can't determine exactly what happened.

(49:46):
We're going to take the to back,obviously we're going to run
through as as many tests as we can as well to see exactly what
were the situations, you know, was it not zipped the entire
way? I mean, even if it wasn't like
it shouldn't have blown apart like that, like you know what
exactly with the situations, youknow, unfortunately this is part
of the racing is, you know, whenyou're developing new

(50:06):
technologies and there is some new technologies in this suit
that aren't in previous suits, you know, sometimes you come
across things like this, but they can't find anything that
was mechanically or structurallyincorrect with the suit.
So the zipper didn't come apart at the seam.
The the zipper literally came apart at the mechanical part of
the zipper. So we got it, you know, we got
to figure out because it's neverhappened in that type of

(50:28):
situation. Usually it's somebody's doesn't
zip it up all the way and it'll become undone.
Now, with all the zippers that we have in Moto GP, we actually
have Velcro on the zipper pulls and Velcro on the bottom of the
collar. And even we use that here with
our riders in Mode America now. So when they zip it up, they
actually have to Velcro the collar snap to the zipper so the

(50:48):
zipper won't pull down. So when they snap it, it's
Velcroed in on the top. So can't really come undone.
Like you really got to do something stupid to have it come
undone. But you know, again, we got to
do investigations and this is, you know why we test these new
features and things like that. Unfortunately, I'm racers
because we know they're going tocrash eventually and we're going
to see how things hold up. But that's not how that you

(51:10):
know, we that's not what we want.
That's not what we're looking for at all.
So we're going to do a serious deep dive on what happened there
and make sure it doesn't happen again.
For sure, yeah. Let's talk about KTM.
We're not looking at KTM, but like KTM.
Let's talk about Benda FernandezRinz.

(51:31):
I even throw I won't even throw Luca in there, but these three
riders because they they finished in the top ten and and
obviously some of that was due to some guys crashing out, but
Fernandez has been riding reallywell lately.
Can he, you know, be like, can he and I still trying to see if
he can save his career and stay in Moto G?
Well, he's he has another contract for for next year.
So I I it'll be hard. I mean for it for him not to say

(51:53):
hard for them to get rid of him,but you know, he does already
have a contract for next year. What was most impressive, Reince
Fernandez or Bender? I mean Bender was on the KTM, so
as long as he stayed up he was collecting points.
What are your thoughts on that, TJ?
I mean, yeah. I mean, I think Bender, I don't

(52:17):
know. I mean, like, I don't, I don't
know if Brad just goes out therejust to race just because he's
got a contract for some reason. Like I don't ever see like him,
you know, trying super hard. I know they go through their
battles and obviously they have Pedro Acosta and Maverick and
and they but you know, I feel like he hasn't really tried hard

(52:41):
this season or, you know, you know, it's just just out there
riding. So for him to get top ten, yeah,
a lot of people crashed out. I don't find that super
impressive. It's just kind of where he fell
in. I do want to see, you know what
we talking about Raul. I do want to see him shine a
little better. Like I said, I don't know when
his contract's up, but I hate seeing riders come into Motor GP

(53:05):
and then and then disappearing. I like to see sometimes a little
longevity. So I want to see him step up.
We've seen Brad bend it forever,you know, so, so I want to
definitely want to see him step up to the plate a little bit.
I forget the other racer you mentioned.
Who Luca? It was Rinz.

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It was Rinz. Rinz, right?
I mean, when, when, when it was back and when it was Joan Meer
and Alice Rinz. I really love that duo.
But since then, I think Rinz hasn't had it since then.
And here and there he'll get a podium.
But ever since I think he broke his leg last year, it's just

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never been the same. He's just kind of just been 10th
or 15th place, you know, or you know, just way in the back.
And it's another one that I think it's just I don't know.
I don't know if deserves a seat next next year or whatever is
contrasting up. So do.
You do you do you think with Benda is, is kind of, you know,

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it's kind of, you know, it's kind of what you know, we say
might be going on with with Bagnaya and and you know, even
with Raul, with Raul and Aya Guru, as far as Aya guru is
doing really well when he came in, Marquez is doing better than
back now. Acosta last year with everything
was all about Acosta and now he's his teammate.

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Do you think that Bender is feeling a little bit of, you
know, hey, show some love on this side of the the box kind of
thing or you, you just think it's something else?
I mean, I, I think that probablyhas something to do with it.
I don't know if it's just he wants to be, you know, everyone
probably wants to be the star. I probably just want more

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attention on him. So he's just out there just
playing it safe. I'm not sure.
I also don't know like if you'redeveloping throughout the
season, if you have 4 bikes, like obviously the top 2 riders
will get get some new product totest or use for the bike in a

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race. So I'm not sure if that's the
case if they all get it or if it's just Pedro or the best
rider or if he's getting some ofthe new technology.
I'm not sure how that works, butit seems like he's not getting
anything and he's just always always in the back but it seems
always finished. Well, he had a lot of crashes
this year, but. Right, right.

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What are your thoughts, Lewis? Is it pressure from Acosta?
We know last year Miller was kind of upset that Acosta was
getting parts and he wasn't stuff like that.
So I don't know how KTM is doingthings on the inside.
Is it just, I mean, you know, Brad, Brad was the man when he
came from Moto 2, winning the title and coming into GP.

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He was the man for a long until Acosta showed up, you know?
Yeah, but who else was racing onKTM that was at a really, really
top level like Miller got? Miller's bounced around all over
the place. He's never been consistent.
You know, he's been on factory, factory rides where, you know,
he can't find that consistency. He's fast at anyone given race,

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but he's not fast consistently. Binder was just fast
consistently. And since he kind of started and
came up through the KTM hierarchy, like, you know, he
was kind of the most protected rider the KTM had.
Now that KT Ms. brought people in from other places that been
on different manufacturers and haven't come through the KTM
rostrum, I think they were maybeshowing them a little bit of a

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different pathway. Acosta coming over back to KTM
'cause he was with KTM in the past and he came into Moto GP in
the KTM, but not on a factory KTM.
He was on US satellite, satellite.
And yeah, so, so now it's, you know, now he's just on a factory
bike. He gets a little bit more
factory support. But, you know, again, they also

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see that this kid is the future.Bender's been in the class for
quite a few years now. And even though again, once in a
blue moon on a rain race on someslicks, he'll win this one off
crazy race. But you know, I we don't need a
perpetual 7th place racer like we need a guy that's going to be
our main guy on our factory teamthat we can put out there.
And at this point, with this many seasons under his belt,

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Bender shown like, I'm not that guy.
I can get you 7 day place on a regular basis.
But if you want somebody in the top 4 on a regular basis, you
got to look somewhere else. Because at this point I've had
so many, so much time on his bike.
I haven't proven anything, you know, so and then as far as
Renz, same thing, man. I think ever since he broke his
leg and that injury last year, you know, he came into Yamaha

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with the expectation that he's going to have a bike that will
handle similar to maybe the Suzuki where he had his most
success since he is like one of those really smooth edgier tire,
kind of like corner speed riders.
Like he's a Lorenzo style rider where corner speed is where he
really makes up his ground. But you know, this year the
Yamaha doesn't have the best topspeed.

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You know, he hasn't gelled with the bike at all.
I mean, you see it in his results.
And not that anybody's doing phenomenal outside of Quattarara
on the Yamaha, but I mean, he's not even, I mean, Jack Miller's
outperforming him on a satelliteYamaha.
And you know, so I, I think Renzis probably at the end of his
career at this point. I don't think he's going to find
another home after this unless he tries World Super bike or

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something else. I don't see another team hiring
him to jump on their bike at hisage with his mileage, with his
injuries and everything. You know, I hate to say because
I really do like him. I think he's a great rider, but
you know, we got too many hungrysharks looking for seats.
You know, you got to give some of these hungry boys.
They are. And I think and the last one,
Raul Fernandez, I think, you know, somebody told him he's

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like, hey, Raul, you got to go faster, man.
You, you got to go faster and and don't and take less Kitty
litter home with you every weekend or you're going to be
looking for another job, you know, supermarket or something.
You're going to be packing up UPS boxes or something.
I, I, I agree with Renz as far as the, the injury, for sure.

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I, I, I think that's the unfortunate side with him, I
think, but, and I'm not saying it's over, but I think he, he
had like I, I, not this last round, but one of the previous
rounds. I He was still limping like he
like he like he's walking with alimp still.
I I think that's, I think that'syeah, every round man.
Like I think the, the injury never healed the right way.

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So I think he's he's got that little like hop in the way he
walks. Like I think that's forever now
at this point, man, which sucks.Again, these are the type of
injuries that can just wreck your career.
Like every round I've seen him with a limp, I've never seen him
walk straight ever since that injury.
Yeah, which is which is crazy before we talk about world super

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bike a little bit. You know, Lewis, you brought
this up a little bit when you were we were talking about Bobby
Fong and and not, you know, riding like the Marquez a
brother. It's pretty blatant that.
Alex rides harder with other writers than than he does with
Mark. Is it?
Is it just me? No.

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No, it's not just. You you're looking at it
correctly. It's not just you, but I think I
think those are the only two guys that each other respects on
the track. I don't think Mark respects him
on a. Track like that.
No, no, no. I mean, I'm saying like if you
look at the way Mark passes Alex, he don't, he don't always

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pass Alex the way he passes other guys.
Fair. Enough.
You know, because he's like, he'll be a little bit more
calculated with Alex if he if hehas the time, if he sees that
the guy behind him is coming up on him too fast, then he will
make an aggressive move on Mark and like jump it up on the
inside or I'll break him somewhere or something like
that. But for the most part, when he
passes Alex, it's a little bit more of a calculated pass in an

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area where it's like a breaking zone or like he'll you know, he
doesn't try to like beat him to the apex leaned over and push
him out of the way. Whereas other guys like he will
lean, he will beat you to the apex, He will punch you into
the, the rumble strips like, butagain, you, you can't blame
them. You know, if I, I don't want to

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take money out of my brother's pocket, I don't want to hurt my
brother and, and same thing and like vice versa.
I don't want to take money out of my brother's pocket or hurt
my brother. Now this other dude and I, I
hurt him, I go in the parking lot, I hurt his family.
I I go slash his tires if I haveto if it makes a difference
between coming 2nd and thirds. I'm like, I don't give a shit
at. That point, it's it's business,

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but when it's your family, you know, even though you're working
and riding for your team, you know, once Mark gets in front of
him and Mark starts to stretch him, you know, it's not Alex
letting him stretch him. You know Alex does his thing.
But when it's them dicing with acertain area like it does, it is
a little bit more respectful than than than.
Let's put it that. Way and and we talk about the

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team. If if Alex was on KTM factory,
they wouldn't be standing for that, right?
He's like Grassini. Grassini satellite, you know,
second place all year round is really good for us.
It's great for a satellite team.I mean, for a satellite team,
remember, satellite team won last year.
Yeah. You know, so any satellite team

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would love to be in this position.
You know, I, I, I'm sure that Grassini would love for him to
win a few more races because that's some more money in their
pockets, but even getting 2nd place all the time, that's a lot
of money in their pockets. Yeah, Oh, yeah, for sure.
Reese, Alex kind of ride harder with Mark for him to win, right.
I mean, you you know, he's he's not going to win this year or

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next year if that's the case, ifhe if he doesn't start treating
Mark like every other right. I get it.
Mark is trying to be nice. OK, fine, great.
But like it does, Alex is alwayson the losing end of that of the
races. I mean, yeah, I mean the the
start winning, he's got to be a little bit more aggressive in
the passing and pass his brothera little bit harder, you know,

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or sticking up in there, you know, where he can.
And just like when you see thosetwo ride, you look at him like,
you know, I respect my my brother and my family.
I don't want to go in there and hurt him or or push him wide.
I want him to do good as well. And had the two name of
Marquez's on the box, you know, like Lewis said then it comes to

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any other writing. He's like, I don't give a damn.
But you're you're not, you know,you're not a family.
You're not at this point a level, you know, my me, my
brother, we train together and my father's out here, you know,
my father don't even know which which pit box to go into.
He's like, do I go into my oldest ones or do I go into my
youngest ones? But.
But in in, in Alex's defense, when Reese finishes, I got one

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thing. Oh.
Oh, so, you know, I mean, I, I just say Alex got a little, he's
got to give it a little bit more, give it just that little
bit more to get over the edge. And I think he can do it, you
know, because you're on the you're on the same spec bike
almost besides, like it's a little less.
It's not the I think it's on the24.

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So, you know, give it a little bit more.
So then what my comment was eventhough Alex is is, you know, it
looks like Alex is kind of racing for 2nd place and being
there's only been a handful of people in the history of Moto GP

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since Mark came into the series that could actually fight with
Mark on a week in, week out basis for sure.
You know, so like, think about it.
Andrea de Vitioso is the only guy that was like week in and
week out fighting with Marquez for, you know, good.
Two year period. Three-year period.
Rossi. Lorenzo.

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That's it, man. Pedrosa.
Pedrosa. Yeah, but I'm saying.
But yeah, yeah. Yeah, four guys.
Handful. Handful of guys.
So for Alex to just be able to stay there and even try to
compete at that level, yeah, he gets stretched at at there's
always that one point in the race when Alex is just like,
it's I'm going to check out now and I'm going to give myself

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like a 23 second padding. Then I could just coast it in,
right. You know.
So it's not, you know, don't think that it's just Alex.
I really don't want to battle mybrother.
He would love to battle his brother.
But when when Mark decides like I'm going to pull the pin on
this, he's pulling. It's not yeah, it's not like
Alex is like I'm not going to try to push for that extra half
SEC. I don't have that extra half

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SEC. I don't know where he's pulling
that out his ass. I'm pushing 100% here.
And this dude just stretched me by 7 bike lengths in three
corners. You know, it's just Mark
Marquez, man. There's only a handful of people
that can do what he does. And most of those, all of them
are retired now. And Alex just happens to be this
year's, you know, placement holder like that guy that's

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trying to trying to trying to compete.
I think we I think we talked about it before that, you know,
Alex will probably never beat his brother until his brother
retires. I don't think he'll ever let
that happen. Even seem like that during the
first race of the season where he just let his brother go.
He's like, all right, you go ahead, let you see how it feels.

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And then just, yeah, I can't letyou win yet.
And and looking at like the brothers that we had in the
past, like Brad been to Dare andbeen to Polis, Fargo, Alicia
Spargo, you know, there's alwaysone that's like obviously better
than the other. So he kind of like I expected
kind of the same with with the Alice and Mark and you know,

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through the year Alice had last year is nothing compared to this
year. He's having a tremendous year.
Obviously he's on a great bike, but I just hope that he finishes
well and then obviously to see what he can do next year.
See, obviously he's a great rider and obviously a great
rider and he's a great bike to compete.
But you know, see what Mark did when he was on Versini and that

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wasn't even the best bike. So good, good set, especially
they they're playing together. If you take Mark out of the
series, technically Alex is beating the the, you know, the
two time champion by 5060 pointsor something like that.
It's just like, you know, so it's not like he's not beating

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some great riders behind him. It's just that one rider in
front of him that nobody can beat.
You know the rest of the other 1819 guys can't beat that one
guy, right? You know, I, I I agree it's it's
going to be it's going to be interesting second-half of the
season for sure. You know, one of the I don't
know how what's the word and look for how one of the coolest
things I saw was top rock winning this past weekend and

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the untrue brothers both winningin super sport and Moto 2.
You know, the the the Turks got to feel good about this past
weekend. This stock had had to have gone
up. You know, for the first time, I
saw Dennis Unchu actually smile.If he's not in first place, this
dude does not smile. What are your thoughts on on on

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you know, Top rack Dennis Unchu and chat Canon 2?
So I mean top rack. I'm just looking at the results
like I was like to practice. He wasn't even 1st and I don't
think any of his sessions and it's like to go out and just win

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all three races clean. I mean, it's just I don't know
if the guy's back, you know, he's just paying for his his
Moto GP season next year and tryto win this year as well.
But yeah, I mean top rock and bull Liga battles, it's always
good to see. But you know, to win three in a
row. I mean, it's just like he's guys

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that can't go for a super bike. Kind of a way to stay,
especially being champ. I didn't.
Celebration, though. Basically, you got to work with
the celebrations. I think he had one of the
coolest celebrations last year. Like he put a wing on his back
and rolled around. I thought that was pretty cool.
But I mean, I get what you're saying as far as Dennis

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Dontreau. And although I didn't really see
like this, this, this like what you're saying, his smile and him
not smile when he's now winning.But I think he's definitely
having a good season as well. Lewis on the world super bike
side. I, you know, I like I like both

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riders that are in the top two man, you know, I, I, I root for
Bulgar because you know, again, he had he had a really hard time
for a little bit of time there. You know, even the GP paddock
not having a ride going to worldsuper sport, that whole thing.
So I, I do boot fruit for him and I like the fact that this
championship is so close man. You know, there's only four

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points separating the top two guys.
These guys are going to battle probably all the way to the end.
I mean I don't expect this championship unless something
dramatic happens. I don't expect this championship
to be resolved before the last race of the year.
Like I honestly think it's goingto come down to like the last
race of the year between these two because nobody's giving.
And when somebody gives, the other one pulls back and you

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know, it's it's just it's that yo-yo right at the top.
And these two guys have just really just separated themselves
from the rest of the field, man.Like nobody else is on this
level. Yeah.
And and it's whoever has the, the, the worst qualifying,
right. I mean, the better qualifier is
the one that's is winning and whoever got to come through
that, the only reason why they're not upfront and fighting

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is, is just because they're coming through the the field.
Yeah, and I mean the the resultsare only this close now because
remember Bouliga got taken out at the last race.
So you know that gave top rack abunch of points back.
And he had an engine failure. And he had an engine failure.
Yeah. So, you know, that's that's 50
points right there. You know, now that's not to say

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that top racks going to get awaywithout having some DNFS and
some other mechanicals. And you know, this is what
racing is. You know, on any given day, you
can have the greatest bike and with one lap left, your chain
brakes, you know, with one lap left, you know, a cylinder
drops, a valve blows, anything can happen.
So but I still think that outside of mechanicals, these
two guys are by far the cream ofthe crop here, man.

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I mean, what these two guys can do on a motorcycle on a super
bike, like, I mean, I, I look atit sometime like, man, I don't I
even if I had the talent, I don't know if I'd be down to do
that man, that's that's, that's a little scary, man.
I mean, watching these guys going side by side and dicing it
up the way they do sometimes andyou know, just it's, it's it's

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amazing, man. What these guys can do on these
bikes is just so unbelievable. Like if you took these guys back
to the 70s on one of their bikesto any track anywhere and let
them do a couple of laps, like the entire pit be like, how's
that possible? And now it's like commonplace.
It's like every weekend like this is what this is the what
motorcycle racing has evolved into this unbelievable.

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It's a ballet of gravity, man. It's literally, it's, it's
gravity defined. It's we're trying to figure out
how to beat gravity on every single corner using, you know,
less than 1/4 of inch of rubber on the side of a tire.
It's, it's wild, bro. I love it.
That's why we're here, man, We love it.
What are your? Thoughts, Reese.
I mean, first foremost, you know, I, I haven't heard it, but

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I got to give a good shout out and good respect to my good
friend over there. And Garrett, I mean, taking two
top tens, 8:00 and 6:00. So I definitely got to give a,
you know, big thanks to him and he got.
A new contract. Right, with his new contract
with his team. So I mean that was a very, very

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sporty of him. But with top rack, like man,
that's just it's like you're you're the king.
You're you're another Marquez inthis this league.
You know, he can't be touched, can't be, you know, it's just
dominant, you know, and he wins in dominant fashion.
You know, to see him win each race this week and I was like

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it. It was almost kind of like I was
at the point of like just eitherget a DNFI wanted to see a DNF
just to see some just to see some drama like I was hoping
like he crashed at the the engine failure.
Just give me something just as a.
Kind of talk. I was running with him until he
crashed out in Race 1. Alex was definitely running with

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him. He.
Was. You know, but he.
Just wanted to see something like I just something's going to
happen. I'm anticipating something
happening and nothing happening.I'm like, I ain't this man.
It's just, it's just dominant, you know, and I'm just hoping,
you know, I mean, but like Lewissaid, I think this is going to
go, I think it's going to go down to the last race, the last

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round, the last lap, everything.It's going to go down to that.
I don't think the championship is going to be determined any
sooner. I think it's going to be
determined at that last round coming.
OK, two questions before we get out of here.
Who should get Alvarez seat and who should get Top Rock seat for

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next season? Oh shit.
I, I know BMWBMW is looking at Moto 2 riders and Moto GP
riders. Like they made a press
announcement that, you know, right now they're not limiting
their search just to the world super bipodic.

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They're looking at Moto 2 and they're looking at current Moto
GP riders that might be without a ride.
Aaron Connett. Aaron Connett.
Nah, man. Like I said, maybe, maybe we got
two or three more tattoos. Maybe.
But I don't think he has enough tattoos right now, man.
Honestly, man, I think it'd be somebody.
They want a name. They either want a name or a big

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talent. So it's either going to be
someone like a Jack Miller or somebody like that.
That, yeah, that comes with a little bit.
Of like, yeah, or that was Vince.
One of them. No, no, no, no, He's right.
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm just saying this

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is the option. Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean I
can see some Moto 2 riders. I mean, you know, Manzi, it
would be good. But I don't know if I don't know
if he's going to stay in the Yamaha family when he moves up
to Moto super Bike because he shouldn't move up to super bike
at some point. I mean, you never knew who's

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going to take Ray's seat next year or so.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, right.
That's right. He might go somewhere else too.
Right, Ray? Yeah.
Rumor mills talking about going back to Honda.
No Ray Ray supposedly the rumor mills that he's going to end up
on the same bike with low one ofthe low side brothers.

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The the the. The VDS, Yeah, He's going to be
the second, second rider on that.
Yep. OK, I can see, I can see that.
Petrucci, should he go to the factory seat?
I mean, he's doing really well. Third in the standings and too
old. Yeah.
Just everybody will see what bike sold.

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Yeah, but you can give it to a younger guy that can that can be
groomed by Bullocka and like youcan Bullocka can help bring that
young guy up if you get a young guy.
So once Bullocka leaves, you know you got the next guy
stepping in the Bullocka seat right in the shadow, and you can
keep that dominance going, OK? I'm I'm rooting for Petrucci,

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but I feel you. It's it, it, it makes sense And
and I, you know, I'm saying, hey, I, I doubt he would want
like a one year contract. So you know, it's, it's better
to have a two year than a one year, right.
So I don't think I don't know ifyou'd go.
He did one year with Ducati factory and Moto GP so like.
Lewis said. Man, that one year when a rider

(01:17:18):
had that one year 1, you know, year contract, it's kind of hard
to give it your all because you're at that point where
you're like, I want to give it my all, but then I don't want to
throw this shit down the line, right?
For your contracts only. Well guys, until next time.
I mean this is pretty dope. Was pretty crazy weekend with

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all the racing I had all my screens I had a race on.
It was one of the few times I could watch racing from like
5:00 in the morning until, you know, when you guys finished in
Cali. Right.
It was good times man, Trust me,I was up early watching the race
before I went in the to the track so it was a good time.
No doubt, no doubt, man, it's tobe perfect.

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Cool podcast. My name is Rex 45.
Peace. Take care.