MotoGP Germany 2025 Round 11 Recap S5 Ep 15 of the B 4EVA KOOL "Race a Motorcycle" Podcast

Rex, Cheetah 470, Smitty and Bobby Shakes discuss MotoGP Germany 2025 Round 11.

Episode Transcript

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I need to put some cucumbers over my eyes.
I have baggy eyes. You might have to.
Man, said my eyes baggy. Hey boys, we live.
Welcome back to another edition of the Be Forever Cool podcast.
My name is Rex 45. We got the crew in the building
on Vroom Vroom Wednesday. We got Cheetah, 740, Smitty, and

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the one and only Bobby Shakes. What's going on, fellas?
What's happening? Today.
How's everything going? Not bad, not.
Bad, nice, nice. You know, as always, guys, we're
starting to in in our orders, but yeah, how's it going today,
Cheetah man? Good man, good, good man.
Just happy to be back, you know?I couldn't, I couldn't come on
earlier bro. But this is, it was a lot of

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racing to catch up on this weekend.
I couldn't do it honestly all inthe weekend 'cause I was busy
and I had to get a lot done. I did watch a few of them live,
but man, there's a lot of lot ofcrashes, man, a lot of crash
drama going on that we can we can really unpack here in a
second. Nice, nice.
Yeah, there's a lot man 'cause it was 3 days of not three days,

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a weekend of three different major series going on, Motor
America Moto GP and World Super Bike.
So there's definitely a lot to talk about and a lot of action.
I was packed into that to this past weekend.
Smitty, what's good man? How you doing man?
Pretty good. I can't go playing this weekend.
I caught probably all of you know, the GP racing some of
Motor America and worse and worse by I didn't catch much

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much at all this weekend though.But Moto GP was great man.
I love very many of you, you know so.
Yeah, no, it was definitely Action Pack and you know, it was
one of the few races that in themain GP race that ended with
only ten guys. And so we'll definitely dive
into that. Bobby shakes, man.
What's good, man? I know you got like, how many

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podcasts are you doing right now, man?
55, man, man's a busy man. What's good, man?
I'm I'm out of Moto GP and superbike I'm done what?
Do you mean? Guys, this right here is worth
nothing. Money has no value.

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Hype has no value. I see when I see Marquez do the
Internet meme dance after winning, I've lost all respect
for Marc Marquez. You are a champion, you are a
leader. You're not supposed to follow

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the hype. You set the trend, you don't
follow the trend and that's whatit means to be a champion.
Very disappointed. Top rat could do it because he's
not one of us. He's not a winner, he's in the
lower division. Once you get into that winner's
circle, you have to behave like a leader.
I think I'm out on Ducati. It's been a while since I've

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done a thing with Bobby. Man, I forgot.
He's a nut case. Yeah, we, we're, we're going to
have to get Bobby on his, his meds, man.
But you know, it's going to be an interesting show for sure.
But let's talk about the show guy.
Let's talk about the Moto GP. You know, I ask a general

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question with your thoughts of the overall weekend.
You know, it's record-breaking crowd for the Saxon ring, over
250,000 people. The, the qualifying was
ridiculous, you know, a lot of alot of competitive, competitive
riders, competitive manufacturers outside of Ducati.
Obviously it was some crashes that happened and stuff like
that for some riders and you know, they didn't get a chance

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to race over the weekend. So definitely a lot.
And the main GP was crazy. Moto 2 was crazy.
So we'll start with Cheetah. What are your thoughts on over
all weekend? Man, it was a it was a crazy
overall weekend. The most memorable things are
just you know, the stuff that happened in the Sprint, you know
all the cup. The good manufacturers doing
great right now, Aprilia, Yamaha, KTM, they're doing well

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in the rain right now. We're seeing the comeback with
from 93 when he ran wide in turnone had to come back through all
the pack and easily made it happen.
Everyone expected that. And then the the drama from
Sunday. Oh my goodness, everybody went
down putting people in positionsthat they've never been in in
this whole series. You got people in the upfront
category they shouldn't really be in because half the grid went

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down. There's only 10 people.
So you know, it was just a, it was a crazy weekend, crazy
track. Situations, conditions that they
push through. These are killers, these are
warriors. They push through everything and
and gave us a show at the end ofthe day.
Nice. They did.
They did man. Smitty, what are your thoughts?
No, I kind of, you know, left piggyback of what Cheetah just

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said, but it was odd because of this past weekend.
If you take Saturday's Sprint race and you know prior to that
turn 8 was taking everybody out turn 8, but then the actual race
on Sunday was turn 1. So I'm trying to, I still can't,
I still can't understand why it happened because the races were
dry, right? So the turn 8 just killed

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everybody Saturday and turn one on Sunday.
But like you said, 10 guys finished, which was like the
second lowest ever since like 19, like 90 something a long
time ago. So very, very, very historic
weekend. Also what was cool because it
was Mark Marquez's 200th, 200th start.
It was Alex's 100th start, and then it was also Marquez's ninth

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win, which is the most wins at one track ever.
Also, he took over second place officially by passing Augustini,
so he's #2 now in all time minutes behind Ross.
So this weekend, you know, like it.
The week was historic in many ways, you know.
So, right, right. Yeah, I, I think, and, you know,
we'll talk about it some more with the crashes.

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I think because they had, Saturday was wet and I think
they usually figure out a lot ofstuff in the Sunday GP on in
the, in the Sprint race. But you know, Saturday was such
a, a wet day. I I think that's the issue that
he just didn't have enough time,But you know, we'll, we'll, like
I said, we'll dive more into that Shakes man.
What are your thoughts of, of the GPI?
Know you said you're done. So, you know, I, I don't know

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how this is going to go. I think somebody walked into the
paddock, knocked on Jorge Martin's door and said what are
you going to do now? Aprilia's hair.
It's a winning bike. We're we're seeing the momentum

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as as we get deep into the season for seeing a Prillion
making that run. That's all I was worried about
because we know it's we know it's an Alex and we know more
Badeli is going to fail me again.
It's been my dark horse all season.
We know that. We know Alex is going to do his
thing. We know Marquez is going to do
his thing. We I thought that Honda would

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have won with all the crashes because the only way Honda could
really win is with the crashes or train more friends, an act of
God. So that was the most surprising
thing. But I think Jorge Martinez got a
he got a wake up call. What are you going to do?
What are you going to do? It's the bike can win.
Can you win? That's it.

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Yeah, we'll see next. Week.
We'll see. I I completely agree with that.
And we'll talk about daddy. I mean, I think the big boss
also gave him a few choice words.
But yeah, man, like, you know, Cheetah, I know it's your turn
to ask the question. So we let's see what you got
man. Oh man, I hadn't even thought of
one. But if we had to bring one up, I
guess I'm going to ask, was MarkMarquez dropping oil on this in

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the race? Because everybody behind him
that was in leading behind him, Bez Digi besides Alex.
Alex was behind him too. Maybe he gave him the brother a
little pass. Maybe he told him I'm going to
drop oil on lap 2, lap 3 on the right side or something because
Zarko, Acosta, everyone behind him, boom, went down 567 people

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and then all of a sudden you gotMarini Binder all of a sudden in
top 10. The second place curse.
Yeah, so I mean, what's going on, man?
Is it Marquez Manor right now? That's what they said, right?
It's Marquez Manor and he's not putting his foot off anyone's
neck right now. Right, you know, I I agree with
you as far as it is. It is Marquez what we already
knew the saxoring as Marquez is.But it seems like the the title

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is coming close to the summer break Smitty.
So I think the title, you know, might be out of reach for anyone
else. So I might, I might, I might
finally throw in the towel, I'vesaid.
It says race. 1 No, I, I, I feel, I feel really bad for
Bazecki and Digia because one Bazecki had a rough year last

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year on, on trying to get that 23 bike right for, for on the
Ducati. So for him to be back up front
like he was in 2022, I know he feels really good.
So that I mean, even though he had the one the win in
Silverstone and he had the the two podiums in Aston, he was
close and he seems to be the closest guy to push mark at the

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moment. DJ is finding his way.
And I think it's the same thing these guys are are getting.
They're riding the fastest they've ridden all year and now
they're seeing they're finding out their limit limitations or,
or they're finding the limits ortrying to manage the limits.
Because you know, when you're back in 8th and 9th place or 7th
place or anything like that, you, you still have to deal with
the rider in front of you, But but when he's out out front like

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that, So I feel really bad for those two crashing.
Also Acosta, you know, Acosta, that was that was, you know,
that's that, that like that was that was really bad because you
know, same thing. He's had a tough time last year
and you know, to see all those guys go down, you know, out.
On the plus side, it helps out Marini because coming back,

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getting a 6th place for Honda, you know, that's a good look
because Arco is another guy that, you know, he was second on
the grid and crashed out as well.
And, and so that that it, it's Idon't think it's Marquez's oil
coming off the right boot. But you know what?
I'm. Saying, I mean, listen, Mark,
Mark was on a different level, man.
He was the only person hitting consistent 20's the whole race

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and nobody could get into the 20s.
And then he started dipping into20 ones later in the race.
But Rossi's only chance Digi went down.
You know what I'm saying? He was right there and he was up
there giving everyone a shot forthat podium, but unfortunately
he goes down. So it would have been him and
Bez probably battling it out honestly.
But unfortunately, you know, both those guys went down.

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So yeah. All right, Smitty, what do you,
what do you want to add to that?No.
No, no, I mean, I kind of agree with Green.
You know what I thought he said.But like I said, I still don't
understand why people kept crashing.
Honestly, just it doesn't make any sense.
You know, probably they saw Marquez and try to match his
pace. It couldn't do it.
And and you know, they kind of wrote above their limits and

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that's why they crash. But it was always turn 1.
So but it can't put my finger onwhy it kept crashing, you know,
and then but hold on Marquez, asusual.
I'm not saying hold on. Well, Rex, so you just said that
they're trying to push to get closer to him.
They aren't. They're just happy to get second

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place, that's all. Honestly man, I think those guys
are all fighting for 2nd place now 'cause they know they're not
beating Mark. They might not win, they might
not win the championship, but they're not fighting for 2nd
place. None of those guys are none of
listen man, I I know it's easy to say, but there's nobody
fighting. Maybe some cat Tantra, but
there's nobody else fighting for2nd place.

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Like you know, Bez is out of theVR46 Academy.
Did you? He's on the bike.
Them guys are not trying to fight.
Rossi don't believe in second place.
Come on man. That's that's Rossi.
It's a different. He's the owner of the team, so
he's not going to have riders who are trying to phone at home.
OK, Rex, all right, listen, it'sracing, you know, racing.

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There's their pockets of racing,right?
There's Group One through 5, sixthrough 10 and so forth, right?
And those first five guys are trying to get first place.
Those, you know, six through 10,they're kind of seeing OK, you
know, what can I can I hit the third spot on the podium?
They may probably a best top five right now.
There's one pocket and that's Mark that everybody else is

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their own pocket of racing. Be honest with you this it ain't
going to happen. Mark is the only guy that could
beat himself so far this year. But but has Mark lost like like
yet? I mean like get gun and beat
straight up yet. Has he?
Not yet. He's been close.
OK. Then but but you know, I mean,
if he, if you know, he crashes out so other people have won.

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I mean, there's three, there's there's two other winners.
So I mean, you know, it is what it is.
What are your thoughts? So different sport, but on
topic. 50 days before the NFL season start and you have the
Cleveland Browns. You have the Rams, you have

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Chicago Bears, you have the Patriots.
Everybody goes to mini camp thinking we're going to the
Super Bowl. Right.
Every team thinks that they're going to go win the Super Bowl,
So why would a raid, a writer, aprofessional think you know
what? Yeah, I'm a professional.

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I'm going to go for second place.
Come on. Another thing I'd like to add to
our friend Cheetah here. Welcome back, Cheetah.
I love you. But it there seems to be a
terrible, terrible conspiracy with everybody on this show.
Every time Mark wins, it's oil from his boot.
And he waited for the last minute to run off the track to

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change tires. He's he's going really hard and
then he's slowing down so Alex can catch up.
Why can't we just be legendary guys?
Why? Why can't we just be legendary?
Why can't we just give the man his props?
He's great, everybody sucks and that's it.

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There's no conspiracy. He's not cheating.
He's just legendary. I just want to hear that one
from everybody on the panel. Nah.
He is legendary. No, no doubt.
I mean, he's he's one of the greatest writers to ever ride.
No, he's not saying he. We're not saying he's not.
He's the goat, but the goat. But at the end of the day, you
know, magic was nasty. Jordan was nasty, but if you're

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in Boston, you know you're rooting for Boston.
It is what it is. I mean, you know, so and I have
nothing. I have nothing against Marquez
at all. But at the end of the day, those
other riders on the grid, you know they want to win.
Yeah, yeah, they do. And I want to respond.
I want to get a chance to respond to Bobby Shakes.

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The thing is, you comparing football to motorcycling First
off is a sin. Right.
Because one, you're talking about a team sport versus
individual. So every team may come together
and bond together and say we're going to make it to the Super
Bowl, right? But when you out there by

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yourself on the bike you've beenon and you continue to push by
yourself and your team is just sending you messages that you
see on your dash and at the every start finish line you see
a message saying how far someoneis behind you or in front of
you. That's all you get.
So at the end of the day, you might have to settle for 2nd
place. If you know racing, that's how

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it goes. You just.
Know the better man is the better man.
It comes out and qualifying pretty quickly starting the 1st
5 minutes. You can tell if you're watching
the time there's a guy out therethat's just putting it down
early. Still 3 seconds off race base
but you just out there already faster than everyone.
So let's just cancel the season and give give Marques a trophy.

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Nobody gives up though. People are still going to go box
if it's a boxing match, no matter how good the other person
is, right? You don't give it your all, but
there is a reality on not to chase Mark Marquez because
you're going to burn your tires out chasing a guy like that.
Yeah, you're going to crash or you're going to burn your tires
out. Not be ready to push the half
the rest of the day's distance to keep Pekko behind you.

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If you're Alex, right, you can'tchase your brother.
You know how fast your brother is.
So does the rest of the grid, though.
So it's ain't a team four man. It's different.
You get humbled pretty quick. But but that could be the
problem with the sport. You ever seen those NBA teams
where the bench is still talkingabout they got a ring, they
never played it? How many minutes?
You play no minutes, But they can still brag about it because

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that's a team sport. The team carries you.
Right, but there's also Team 2INRacing, there's a.
Kind of, yeah, but. There's a team if you're a
boxer. Annex.
There's engineers, there's a whole team behind you, and I get
it. Yeah, it's you on the grid, but
I don't think anyone on that level, if you're on that level

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and you're just going to do the the the bare minimum and you're
not going to push it. Fans want to see pushing it.
I want to see you push it on ball tires and crash.
And I say that's what I want. I don't want to see.
Guess what? The difference is the difference
is you want your team. Your team can you can fumble the

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ball. Your team will pick it up and
might make the goal. Right.
You crash out there or you lose that boxing match 'cause it's a
one-on-one boxing. Is not.
Racing or similar? No.
Guess what? Your team blames you afterwards.
You do that a few times. Now what?
They want to kick you off. That's your livelihood.
That's what you're putting moneyon.
Food for your family down right?So it's totally different bro.

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It's like real. It gets real up there.
They are struggling and fightingand clawing for every seat they
have up there. And 2nd place is better than no
place in Richmond. Right.
But yeah, as we saw in all thosecrashes, I don't think the top
three guys we're trying to finish second because they,
they, they, they, they would have slowed down a little bit

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And and they were not and and and not only that, the, the day
they're going to want you. They don't want to see that
you're pushing. They don't want to see that
you're not full gas. All right?
They're just, they're not, they don't like, you know, so at the
end of the day, they ain't got no choice but to send it or, or
get on the podium. You know what I'm saying?
Shakes man, you got you got one for us.

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I got one for you. Yes, I got one for you.
And I think, I think you're going to love this.
One, I have to stop this after tonight.
Can we finally, according to Cheetah, right?
And if we all, everybody agrees with Cheetah, can we finally put
Pekko to sleep? Can we rock him to bed and say

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it's over? And after this show, I don't
want to hear Pekko's name again until we get second or first
place. Rex won't do that.
No, I I need to know he. Gave him a chance to ask a
question Rex, and this the question he brings.
I need to. Know I'll let you guys go first.
No, no, no. This is directly for you.

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I want to know, are we? Are you going to agree to me and
say, Pekko, it's over? Just manage the race.
Don't go for first or second because the paddock is going to
be mad at you. Can we put Pekko's name to rest?
Smitty, You, you want to hear? You want to see Pekko's name to
rest, right? We don't want to hear.
Him talk. How, how, how?
Wait, wait. What is how many?

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How many? How many points is he behind in
the championship? Like 100.
Yeah, it's like 100. Like 100.
So he was so he was the first time he won was he was down 90
came back after the the summer break and you know, didn't make
too many mistakes after that. So until until there is more

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points than fewer races give. A straight faced hand this shit.
He it's it's it's possible, man.Anything is possible.
Anything is possible. So, you know, Tom Brady was
down, you know, to you boys downin Atlanta by whatever halftime
and they came back you anything is possible.
So, you know, in sports, you know, there's there's not a lot

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of Cinderella stories, right? But this would be a good one if
there's ever to be won in Moto GP, right.
So all I'm just saying is when there's fewer races than points,
then I'll say it's over. Yeah.
I don't believe you mixed fixed football games in with racing,
but that was that, that that wasgood.

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I like that that was. So not yet, but soon.
I, I, I will say this, right, I think that Digia is helping
Petco in the sense that he's figuring out a way to go fast on
that 25 bike. And since he, Digia did that
what, 3 rounds ago, Petco's beengetting a little bit quicker
later in the, in the beginning of the races and stuff like the

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main race, the, the Sprint race.I don't know what to say about
that. You know, anything is possible.
You know, that's all. That's all I'm going to say,
Shakes. You know, to quote the great
Kevin Garnett, anything's not possible.
You haven't. Answered my question are you put
I mean it was great I loved it what are they called that in
Congress when you get up and youjust talk and talk and talk

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filibuster. That was a great filibuster.
The question was are you puttingback peko to sleep or not, yes
or no as far. As far as beating Marc Marquez,
it's what? You're it's over for him for the
year, yes or no? I think that I.
Think that Peko has a better chance of beating Marquez in a

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race than he will in a championship?
I'll give you that if. Mark crashes.
Yes, yeah. You are correct.
Yeah. Just listen man.
What is the win like like like don't the last time I put
stipulation on wins. I know it's difficult down
there. I don't I don't want to say bad
things. A lot of people that.
Put in front of Petco to win. Honestly if even if it wasn't

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for Mark, Alex is better right now.
You got you got, Alex. You got Digia and you got Abez
right now, right? And.
Acosta is is. Starting to get in there right
so there there there are a few more people he's going to have
to battle with for for this whatever is leftover from the
Marquez brothers OK Rex the. Answer is yes.
Or no, I I mean he's it's a no. It's a no, man.

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It's a no. It's like until it's over, it's
over, man. I mean, I, I, you know, that's,
that's how I look at it. So I'm sorry man, it's not over
yet, but Rexy. Run to the crowd now.
And cornea? There, check it out.
I got to push back some. You can't say that a win is a
win. That's how everybody.

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Around the world says a win is not because.
All wins don't feel the same to who?
The guy. Listen to the people that's.
Winning or the people that's watching people winning if Pekko
wins. Because Mark and Alex both
crash. I think it feels the same.
I said beat the mark straight up.
No, it doesn't. Yeah.
Yeah, the point. So, so, So what?
You're trying to say is then. So based on that, what you're

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trying to say is the last year'schampionship.
Since Mark has been out and hasn't won, they should be
asterisk next to the championships.
I'm not saying that, but. I don't feel the same.
You know I'm right, man. No, no, no.
But I think I know what both of y'all are right?
I think the case is like if someone crashes out, like mark

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crashes out and somebody else wins, they deep down know that
they wouldn't have won that right under that under any other
circumstance, right? Only other circumstances
possibly has the worst start, botches the start and has to
make his way back up or he has aa shitty qualifying or he
doesn't mistake in qualifying, get super penalized and get sent
back to the grid, right? That's the only chance you see
someone like this not just coming out there on 1st every

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single time. This is the Michael Jordan of
this time right now. Do you think those those guys
say it on camera when somebody crashes out and they don't feel
it? You think they feel bad cashing
that check for sure. Or not.
They still won the race, you know, because you have to finish
the race, guys. Yeah, you got to.
That's what I mean. It is.

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That's part of race and it's finishing.
And yeah, you know, we can say this in every sport.
The best team doesn't win. The best players don't win,
right? And, and, and the other teams
that that beat, you know, I don't want to, you know, the,
the, you know, the, you know, I don't want to call out too many
teams, but it's sometimes the best team don't win.

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And, and, and and that's that. Yeah, yeah.
But that's. The thing, right Like the
fastest rider doesn't win either.
It's the most consistent fast rider.
The guys can't just be fast for three laps or five laps or 10
laps or 15 laps. You have to manage the tires at
the very beginning of the race. You have to manage in the middle
when you suddenly get the itch to chase someone or someone puts
a pass on you. You might want to burn up your

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tires. But you got to understand
there's still 1015 more laps to go because these GP riders are
racing 2628 laps. So you have to manage the same
set of tires for that long. The fuel load's changing, you
know, everything's changing. You're changing your mapping
along the way. You know, everything's working
through. So these guys are like surgical
the way they race, you know, so they have to manage all that.

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You can't, you have to be very smart, man.
You can't just burned it all up in the first 5-10 laps, that's
for sure, like we do in club racing, right Smitty?
We got 6 laps, 8 laps, 10 laps at the longest burning tires.
Yeah, I use same. Set for second set of second
race if I need to, you know whatI'm saying?
So you can't do that in in this kind of league, man.

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It's a different thing. What do you think about that
Bobby? You know Rex left his.
Peckle, though, yeah, I didn't. Know Rex's camera went off I'm
I'm still here though. I'm sorting that out.
Unbelievable. Come on man, sort it out.
Man, right, I mean. You know this is ridiculous.
Take off the lens cap. That'll help.

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No, no, it's. Not that it's, I know, I know
it's something else. But go ahead and Ben and I think
it's your turn to ask a question.
I'll get I'll get it sorted out.Oh, OK.
A. Question.
Let's see what I got for you. So with Pedro.
Costa lying up Moto 3 and Moto 2and supposedly was crowned as
the next guy in line behind, youknow, the Rossi and the Marquez

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and why is it struggling so muchIs it him mentally or is it the
bike that he's not doing that good on like what's wrong he?
Came to the GP class and met a few aliens at a UFO encounter.
Like, you know, that might have been part of it because he is
still top five, top 6 right now.You know, I truly think that's

(26:56):
the case, You know, so when you come to Moto GP, guess what?
The top six people were probablyfront runners in Moto 2 some
some years ago. Zarko, you know, he's a
champion. So you have guys like this that
are in there running top seven, top eight that that can't make
it the first or second. So this is the best of the best

(27:16):
of the best. And so you just you, there's no
BS ING in this, right? And to take it back to teams
versus individual sport, at the end of the day, when you're out
there, there's no team to save you, bro.
The team can't fight for you andthe team can't race for you.
They're sitting back there, praying and hoping with their
fingers crossed, like Mark's dad, right?

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Yeah, that's like Rex. On Acosta.
I'm sorry. I missed that cool question.
Can you say it again? The Acosta.
Was the man in Moto 3 the man inMoto 2 by a long shot.
He was supposed to be the next, you know, alien to come in and
kind of just challenge Marquez or be at least be close to where
Marquez is and beat everybody else.
Why? Why is he not doing doing that?

(28:02):
Is it the team? Is the bike?
Is it him? Is he just not there mentally?
Like what's wrong with Acosta? It's the bike.
The bike. The same reason why.
Marcus on a Ducati and didn't stay with Honda, I think.
And, you know, we can't sit hereand say that Bialis is a slouch
or Bastianini or Bender who's been there forever, you know?

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So it's the bike. I will say it's good to see the
KTM as far as they've been this past round and stuff like that.
So there's hope for that. Will they get to the will they
get over the hump to challenge Ducati?
I don't, I don't know. I mean, you know what I mean?
Right now, Aprilia is looking really good, but they're they're
still in the mix. So, yeah, I think it's just it's
the bike and that's why the rumor mill is out there saying,

(28:47):
you know, he wants to he wants to go to VR46 Academy.
But did you and Frank and and Frankie are like, Nah, Nah, we,
we, we happy right here. We're good.
We're. All in, right.
Now, right? You know what are your thoughts?
Shakes on that 2. Thoughts.
I agree with. I agree with Cheetah.

(29:08):
He's just around other aliens. Everybody has an idea till they
get punched in the mouth. And.
I think the issue is it is the bike.
There's a small little componentin the motor.
That's failing. Like really tiny, small, like
you can't really find it. So until they find that little
little part and the bike will befixed, Come on 45, stop with the

(29:31):
excuses. The bike.
Come on, come on. You're a professional supposed
to ride that thing. I don't want to hear it's the
bike, but I get it. I I think.
You make a lot of excuses. You have to be a little bit
more, you know, lenient with your, with your talk.
Do you think that's what it is? I don't think that's what.

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It is. It could be on the bike's been
great on the bike's been there KTM.
Yeah, KTM, No. No KTM.
Has not been there. KTM is not they.
They haven't been on the podium.I mean, besides Maverick, I
should say. He's in and they got taken away
from him. They haven't been on the podium.
So it is definitely when when you got 4 riders, well, I'll

(30:15):
give Bastion in your pass. You got three riders that that
that can that are really competitive that are kind of
all, you all see them kind of fall back towards the end of the
races and stuff like that. So they're they're having issues
with that bike and KTM knows that and the the what's his
name? Brett Pitt, Pitt Pitt Pitt
Brier. He do he, he.

(30:37):
The the. CEO Well, he stepped down.
He he just runs the race programnow, you know, and the guy in
the wheelchair. Oh yeah.
The the prieto or something likethat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he even said it in an
interview that, you know, because he was asked that over
the weekend, you know, about therumors about with, with Acosta.
And he kind of says when you're young, you know, you, you don't,

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you don't realize that you should you should marry, you
know, you're married with your wife and you have to stay with
them. When you're young, you want to
still look at girls and stuff like that.
And that was his analogy about Acosta being being young, that
he wants to flirt and look at other options.
But, you know, when you get older, you realize where you
need to be. So.
But he also said that, you know,the bike is not where it is yet.

(31:24):
And and so that's kind of what they're trying to, you know,
sort out. And, you know, they're a young
program still. You have to remember they're,
you know, they're still a young program compared to Honda and
Yamaha, right? They're still a pretty young pro
and Aprilia, right? They're still a pretty young,
young program. So yeah, man, it's still, it's
definitely the bike. I would have to.

(31:44):
I would have to. Disagree with you, I know they
haven't got podium all season but we can't be a prisoner of
the moment right? Previous coming Honda's stolen
some but the bike that has challenged Ducati year to year
has been this season has been has been KTM.

(32:06):
For some reason they fall apart.But if you were to look at the
standings without Aprilia showing and Honda stealing some,
you would say the second best bike on the grid.
You'd have to give it to KTM andfor some reason they can't
finish the race and they can't get on the podium.
But to me, in my opinion, I wantto be consistent all season.

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KTM to me looks to be the secondbest bike on the grid.
Well, not the second best bike, the 7th best.
Now you want to. You want to.
Answer him Cheetah. I want to say something.
No, I mean I. Think it's it's going to be
interesting the the way the season finishes just because all

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these brands are coming up. But to Smitty's point, I mean,
yeah, I think I answered that that question.
But like, if we're talking aboutbrands, KTMI don't think is is
there yet and they keep trying different things.
They consistently are trying different arrow packages for all
three riders, consistently testing out different rear ends

(33:11):
to try out the chatter issue to tame that down.
So obviously they're in a battleand a struggle to figure that
that bike, that perfect setting.And once they get that, they try
to keep that and maneuver aroundthat setting for a little.
The Gray area around it. They don't try to deviate too
much from what I've heard, but once but right, it sounds like
they're really haven't found that thing yet because once they

(33:31):
do and one rider likes it, like when Maverick was doing well on
it, granted the tire pressure issue I think is caused him to
get DQ back or something like that.
He was, they used the setup, I believe the next time they like
talked about it. So they were looking at his
data. How how's it clicking?
How's it work? How's he up there right now?
So clearly that stuff helps whena rider does get that click and

(33:51):
it works and he steps ahead in that race, they will use that
and they will find that nugget. Maybe that's the right hand
corners track. And they were like, OK, we know
how to set this bike up for thatway, right.
But that that's how they build and and grow in my opinion.
They're not there yet though. No, I don't, I don't think.
So and shakes Ducati's battling Ducati for the title.
This year they did it last year,they did it the year before and

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before that Katwara got one. So you know, there, there hasn't
been any bike close to Ducati ina little bit.
And and that second place is still a little ways away.
Now. You know, like I said, Aprilia
and KTM are are very close in the sense of like, you know,
they're they're starting to get on the podium and stuff like
that. And who knows what they're at

(34:36):
the second-half of the season isgoing to look like.
And you know, hopefully when, ohhey, Martin comes back, we may
see some leaps and bounds with with with Aprilia.
I think the leaks of bounds. Are happening now without Jorge
Martin. I I think I've been saying this
all season. I think KTM has been the 7th

(34:57):
best bike on the grid. We can talk about that on
another show a previous making amove and I think Bez is like
man, this is my time to shine. You know, it's, it's it, you
know, it's like you're, you're breaking in the houses and then
you find one when the door open and you just go in and it's
like, Oh my God, they left the door open and and they and they
left cookies on the table and there's milk and there's,

(35:21):
there's a pair of slippers and arobe for me to take a bath.
It's what Martine has done to Bez.
Is is, is crazy. It's like, here you go, brother.
It's it's not. It's not the same exact same
thing with what happened to Lorenzo, but at the end of
Ducati and Lorenzo's spent even though Lorenzo was winning the

(35:43):
the relationship was already severed.
So even if Martine comes and have a beautiful second-half and
next year wins the title, I don't think Aprilia will keep
him after that. No no.
Agreed. Agreed.
So that's the. That's the tough part.
But let's talk about the, the you know, I, I mean, I know
Smitty's question, why the, the,the only 10 riders finish, but

(36:08):
you know, there's some crazy crashes.
You know who's Morbidelli's hurtMaverick?
Hurt Maverick. Is hurt just.
Had surgery. It was great to see Luca back,
but Luca was, it looked like he was in a lot of pain.
Alex's back looked like he was in a lot of pain.
What do you guys thought about just, you know, seeing, you

(36:29):
know, the beginning of the race,how it was going and then, you
know, you know, up to 4 laps left, you know, dudes that was
on the podiums were crashing out.
Yeah, yeah, It's just. Unfortunate man like.
I mean, I'm. Sure.
They all have a collective thingto say about what went wrong
there on that track or what's causing them to crash that much.
Cause a lot of those crashes were in the same areas.

(36:51):
So it's interesting, a lot of manufacturers down.
It's not just one thing going on, not a right or mistake that
put everyone down. Definitely was happening
consistently. So did anyone, I don't
understand if anyone ever reallyunderstood what was going on
with the track that was making that happen.
But I know track conditions change when it rains and it gets
hot again and all that. They may not have gotten the

(37:13):
chance to get that optimal set up on qualifying for this
specific race. So I don't know.
Yeah, very interesting. Frankie but his crash was pretty
bad though. Frankie's.
Oh yeah, yeah. So he'd.
Probably be out for a while it looks like you know, but luckily
one race then they got the summer break.
So he's, he's been having a. Tough luck with crashes.

(37:34):
You know, you know what I mean? From last year to this year, he
he might be the new Miguel because and, and you know,
again, when these guys, you know, I think they feel that I
think they taste that they can get on a podium, you know what
I'm saying? And, and, and those guys are are
taking a little bit more risk than some of the other guys for
sure. Gotcha.

(37:56):
All right, well before we. Move on to World Super bike.
I want to talk about Moto 2 and what were the crashes with?
Well, crashes. And also Dennis on 2 won the
race, which, you know, it's justone of the first time I've seen
Dennis smile 'cause he, even if he's on the podium, if it's not

(38:17):
first place, it's like he just wants to break the trophy.
Like he's allergic to 2nd and 3rd place.
Did you guys see Moto 2 and would you think of that?
Also, the crash with Maria and who was it?
Who did he take out? Well, there's one with Maria
Alonso Lopez, right? I believe it was.

(38:41):
Alonso Lopez. There's one with Albelina, not
Albelina Arenas, right? There's another one with Arenas
as well. I'd always with Davio Alanza.
Davio Alonso who? Who ran into the back of Maria
Diego Maria. Yeah, I didn't get to watch.
Auto 2. I'll be honest, I'll let Smitty
go. No, I saw the.

(39:02):
Highlights. I think I.
Think the. Way we could correct this in
mortar to just put the blinkers back on the bikes so we can know
when the guys coming back on thetrack.
Or you can just implement your your hand signals right?
So you just come off the handlebar and you go like this.
That means you're making a rightturn and you just everybody,

(39:24):
everybody knows that you're taking the right turn or just
put your blinker on right, because we all hate people that
just comes out of the left lane into the right lane without
using the blinker. We want just use your blinker.
That's all. And then we can fix motor to
just put the blinkers back on the bikes because clearly been
watching motor to all season. Those guys need blinkers.

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This guy got to wipe off after. That right we charged.
Today I I was called. Back of.
Water too right there, too rightit.
It was pretty. Cool to see again Dennis Anshu
winning. His brother won in in World
Super Sport. And then obviously Top rack one.

(40:05):
Let's talk about the Super bike races over in, I forget where
they were. Huntington.
Yeah. Dunnington Park.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you guys think of of, of
the racing and, you know, the struggles that happened with the
Lowells brothers? Yeah.
I mean, it was the Lowells brothers crashing, struggling

(40:26):
early and crashing early in Race2.
I mean, Top Rank just simply dominating, you know, just
completely hat tricking everything and then winning,
winning all three races and thenjust securing even Super Bowl
qualifying everything, right? It's just all handed to him.
You had the drama, the crash onethat I was talking about
earlier, that was Wildman, Bautista and Sam Lowe's and

(40:47):
everyone get crashed out. No, no, I'm sorry.
Bautista. Yeah, that was Bautista.
That's right. Bautista, Sam Lowe's.
And it was another rider that went down.
I forget who was Montella or something like that.
Yeah, man, it was crazy. It was crazy just to.
Watch all that drama. Very exciting race man.
And are we surprised that Sam Lowe's crashed out?

(41:08):
Now to hear Lewis tell her, Nah.Yeah, Lewis was.
Bashing him he. Doesn't let all.
Yeah, yeah. What are your thoughts, man?
Smitty what my thoughts is I was.
Kind of shocked to see how I wastalk right down later, you know,
because last year we thought Bulleger was, you know, the new
guy in town and talk right, OK, well he's on his way out going

(41:30):
to GP. He's not the same anymore.
But he came back and said, Nah, I'm still a talk, right, that I
was the year before and this this is still my show.
So you got to beat me and he proved that he's still the guy
in the beat and were and were super bike and what and Buttiga
Bell. You know, he's still solid, but
he's not top rack. So right, right.
Yeah, I mean, I, I think that he's, he started in a, you know,

(41:52):
I'd have to look at the grid position exactly.
But he didn't he, he wasn't on the 1st row Buliga, you know,
and so he had to come through onsome riders and there was some
fast riders. Granted, the Lows brothers
crashed out, but Petrucci was fast.
Ray was fast in the beginning aswell, you know, so you know,
that's the unfortunate side, buthe was able to, you know, to at

(42:15):
least minimize the damage. I think he's just down 4 points
going into the next round. And I think he also had bad luck
at the previous race and was andwas taking out one of the races
and didn't score any points and stuff like that.
Bulaga and also had an engine failure at another round.
So you know. You know those things happen.
But I, I, I think Buluga has thepace to, to, to, to fight with

(42:39):
top rack. If he's starting on, on, you
know, the same row, you know, ifhe's starting from the back,
then it's anybody's game. Gotcha.
But then Gerloff had a solid weekend also.
He had a top six and won the races.
Yeah. This was just, this was just Top
Rack's circuit, right? He won there.
He's got the most wins there now.
At this point, I think they saidit was like 12 wins, 12th win on

(43:00):
at at at Donington. So I mean he's you're expected
to win there. I I think Bulliga will come back
though this season. I think he's definitely got a
chance. He's he's too strong and given
those failures he had and all that happening, he's only four
points behind. I think the next rider is 100
plus points again, just like Moto GPI mean.
These guys are like Mark and Alex right now as far as Bulliga

(43:22):
and Top Rack, right? They're like Mark and Alex,
except there's not much of a gapthere.
You know, it's going to be much more interesting in World Super
Bike on who really wins that championship.
I think it's going to be much more.
Interesting, and I'll ask this, who do you think is more hungry
out of top rack or Buliga 'causeyou know it's Top racks last
year as he's going to Moto GP and so this is his last
opportunity to get a win and Buliga hasn't had one yet in

(43:45):
World Super Bike, I think top rack.
Man, he's just built that, got that dog in him, just like that.
Pure dog, man. And he's going to prove a point
by winning this season to come into Moto GP real strong.
You know, I think he's just going to do that.
But again, he's going to come there and have another UFC alien
encounter, man. He's going to run into these
fucking UFOs and be like, what is this?

(44:08):
You know it's going to be. Interesting.
Let me go back to worst. Super bike.
And then Al. Rose complaining again about the
whole weight the weight thing. Well, I mean I.
Think that's so that's a good point for a small guy, man.
I mean, you know, I think you know, there's something about

(44:29):
getting used to your machine to make it feel like it's like it's
it's an extension of you. And this guy's been racing his
whole life a certain way and he's a he's not AI think if he
was a younger rider, he probablywould adapt a lot easier.
But he got too many miles on bikes And, and I think that he
just needs more time on the bike.

(44:49):
And, and I think that's the downside because he's not
getting another year. So, you know, that he may go to,
I don't know. I he'll probably go to Honda
somewhere. I can't see him going to a, a
satellite team. But I I think for him that's a
real struggle. And it's a pity though, because
you know what I mean, It like that has to be frustrating for
him, right? Yeah.
I mean. Yeah, I get it.

(45:10):
But. And he's a dog, right?
He's not a he's not a slouch. He's definitely, you know, I
mean him it was him and top Rock, right.
I mean he had two, two back to backs and and and he was the guy
to beat Top Rock. But you know.
You are correct, but you know what what what?
Folks fail to even realize that even though he's adding weight
weight to the bike he has, it brings with one advantage him

(45:34):
having these ballots of lead or whatever metal they use.
You could put it where you want.Which in a sense.
OK, so say the bike bike like but the corner of like exit and
really is too much. OK, add, add add you know, more

(45:54):
weight to the front. Or let's say you know you're on
the brakes, any kind of unstable.
OK, add weight to the back so you have some play in there.
It's got a total like habit. Hammer to the guy, the ways to
work around it, you know, But I got to assume.
Then you messing with the suspension and the geometry
because that's going to change. Other thing.
It's not as simple as just but correct.

(46:16):
But you think about this, right?How long how how you like to
figure out where to exact? I mean, I'm pretty sure because
they've been adding weight to bikes for a while.
So it's not like starting from the beginning, but at the same
time you're going to have to be putting it on separate parts,
separate different sections of the bike and go out there and
test it and test. And I don't know, they might
have to put in 100 laps before he's like, all right, it feels

(46:37):
good. You.
You. It's not he's.
I don't believe you know what I mean.
It's like, it's like trying to balance the tire you put on the
response to the you know, it's balanced.
It takes time, but but adventure.
You know. Cars don't care about.
Feelings and bikes don't care about feelings, but we humans
do. It's like don't feel right.
I mean, you know that, you know,I guess in the car it's a little

(46:58):
different because it's just the vibration.
But I don't I think for him it'sa struggle and you know, and for
other riders it may it may not be because I mean in motor
America, they've added way to tothe Yamahas, the R Nines, right
and Blake Davis just went out there and was killing it and you
know, you see the I don't well, it's motor America.
So I mean, I think that for everyone, it's going to be a

(47:20):
little bit different how they adjust the things.
We saw that with with more Bodelli coming over to Ducati
and and the first year, how longit took him to get quick on on
the bike and stuff like that. And there's some other riders
that it just takes a little bit longer for them to get up to
speed and than others. And, and you know, that's the
downside, but he's also an olderrider and you know, but I think

(47:42):
if the bike was less weight, hadthe weight he had when he was
winning, I think it would be a three.
It would be a three dog fight instead of A2 dog fight.
Yeah, I don't know. I think he's aged out a little
bit, you know? After a certain age, it hurts.
So you don't. You don't like falling down
after a certain Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
Like Johnny Ray. Yeah.

(48:04):
Skill does go man it. I mean skill not necessarily
goes, but the ability to put that skill down.
You know what I mean? We all have flexes and skills,
you know. I remember I I used to train a
lot in Muay Thai and boxing and I used to hit the bag a lot.
All of a sudden I took like 6-7 years off and I go back and
start hitting the bag. I'm still hitting it hard but

(48:25):
but my my fists were not ready. My.
My wrist. My.
Fist everything was sore and I couldn't even hit the bag for a
while. So it's just like you have to,
you have to take your time into that and then skill will go,
man. I mean, hand eye coordination is
a big one in motorcycling. And I don't know how fast I
would have been if I started when I was 20, right?
But I started when I was like 28, you know, so and I was

(48:49):
luckily able to pick it up quickly, but I I wish I would
have started when I was 20 because you you have much more,
you know, cojones is what they call it.
Yeah, look. Right now my kids are grown.
So right now I'm kind of in grandfather mode.
You know I told my I told my kids one day look y'all need
kids man. And many of that kid is born
Project Marquez, I'm telling you.

(49:12):
Maybe we can talk about. That man, I don't know if you're
open to that, Rex, just pace andage and everything we were
talking about earlier. You can you can bring that up
again if you want. Yeah.
And. I mean, I, I think that's the
thing for sure, obviously, because we see, I mean, we see
older riders leave, but then we also see we're at an age where a
lot of tennis players playing athigh levels in their 30s.

(49:35):
You know, Tom Brady played high at a high level later in life.
Michael Jordan played at a high level later in life with the
Wizards. Even though he was on the
Wizards, he was still averaging ridiculous points.
Look at the stats, look at the stats.
He's averaging like 29 points a game still, you know, So he, he,
I mean, I want knee, you know what I'm saying?
So, you know, and you, you know,you've mentioned this before,

(49:57):
Smitty, Josh Hayes started, you can come if I'm wrong and you
know, started racing at like 26 or whatever.
So he was an older guy racing and he's in his 50s and, and
he's still, you know, running with these guys in, in super
sport. You know what I mean?
So I. Think for every person that's
different, but usually people over a certain age start to tap

(50:18):
out, don't want to, you know, don't want to get up at whatever
time, don't want to make the drive, don't want to do a lot of
things. And and once that creeps in,
then yeah, I, I can see that. But for somebody, you know,
who's still hungry, that that fire is still burning, you know,
you know, they and with motorcycle again, the high I, I
don't, I don't think they'll be racing, you know, a Moto GP bike

(50:40):
because Albert is not, you know,and and so forth.
But I think he, he, you know, he's finishing third.
And I mean, outside of crashes and stuff like that, he he'll
finish top five. I mean, that's that, that that's
still good. No, I agree.
So. But and the medicine they have
today is, is ridiculous to keep you young you, you know what I

(51:03):
mean? And the tech that they have.
So I think it's just the, you know, if you hurt yourself,
what's that recovery like? That's that's the biggest thing
in motorcycle racing. If like if you to break up
yourself at, at you know, like John McGinnis, right?
You know, it's kind of like, youknow, if after 40 and, and you
know, you, you break up a lot ofbones, you know, no, it's

(51:25):
different. Yeah, different, you know.
What I'm saying? So, so right now I'm 48 and I
was telling my kids, like when Iwas, you know, 20 years old, I
was like, you know, like freaking else dude's name but
Wolverine. I'll get hurt, I'll bounce up
and no problem at all, man. Injuries, like I'm fine now.
I'm like old man Logan, man. Like my heel piles don't work
anymore, you know, so. I'm hurt for that.

(51:47):
Long now with the smallest, the small, the smallest thing you
know, your back hurts like 10 three straight sometimes for no,
for no reason. It's terrible.
I mean, I mean, what do? They say they.
Say your talent is day-to-day, but your class is permanent and
if you have good class, you could always compete at the
highest level. And I don't think it's an age

(52:08):
thing. I just think some of these guys
didn't have the class to maintain.
They had the talent which is day-to-day and didn't have the
class. Like a guy like Tom Brady has
the class, Marc Marquez has the class like so there's a
difference. I don't think it's age, it's
your talent is day-to-day, but your class is permanent and some

(52:30):
guys are just a one of one. Right.
No. I think you can explain that in
many different words. Class is 1 just naturally
gifted. Just naturally gifted.
Like Tracy McGrady talks about it.
I will listen to my podcast. If you guys remember him from
basketball. He's like I could hit AI, could
hit a golf ball. This.
Far. Away I could hit a baseballs out

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the out the thing and I could shoot a basketball from wherever
and he's like right now the interview was like right now
he's like no, I could do that right now because some people
are just gifted like that now. When he said that, I was like,
that's so true, man. I just remember in high school
there's just some gifted athletes and these guys don't
even make it to the big leagues.So I'm thinking like, this is
the we don't even have the best,the best in my high school, but

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there's still levels to this, right?
And you take the best guy from every high school and there's
one best guy in that school out of all those people, right?
That's just elite. That guy's college ball.
Yeah, that guy becomes a star. So we're all built.
Differently and and yeah and some people have everything it
takes I definitely I know peoplelike that as well that can they
they they you know, I got a buddy can hit a golf ball.

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I mean, when he first started playing golf, his shot was ugly
as ever, but he can hit it straight as ever with like, you
know, there's some people who just naturally talented and can
do these things, but you know, that's enough to just say, Hey,
you're that good. But you know, Josh Schmidt is a
good example that played for Atlanta, right?
He if he's a guy that could has the same gift and you know, to

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hear Jeff Teague talk about it, he he just never practice and he
was able to do everything that he was doing.
And so imagine if he was practicing in the sense of like,
you know, team ball and stuff like that.
It's just he he just couldn't hecould just hit a shot and make
create his own shots. So but sometimes you need to be,
you know, polished, right? You need you.

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It's it's it's like that's goingto get you so far.
But to win championships and allthose things, you have to learn
how to play team ball as far as basketball is concerned.
But you know, obviously in motorcycle racing, you still can
have all those talents. We've seen it in Moto 2.
We've seen it in Moto 3 guys that were killing it.
And then you know that for whatever reason, they get to GP
and you know, we see Raul Fernandez.

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A little bit right, he's he was killing it and and he's having
struggles. But in Moto 2, if he would, to
me, if he stayed one more year, he probably would have won the
title the following year insteadof coming out with Remy Gardner.
You know what's? Really crazy since we're talking
about class and talent. It blows my mind.
If we go back 30-40 years like Michael, yeah.
Can we? Is it 30 years for Michael

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Jordan? Probably, right?
Yeah. 90s, yeah. Yeah, jeez.
Yeah, it's a long. Time.
Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan?
No shade. I mean the guy.
Smoking cigars and drinking alcohol, yeah.
I mean. So I don't know, I, I mean,
these young athletes, they're, they're eating, right?

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They're, they're, they're going to the Academy.
I mean, these guys back in the day, they just picked up a bike
in one Grand Prix. Like it's, it's crazy.
So like some guys have the classand some guys don't need to
practice it. It blows my mind that not a lot
of younger athletes are not shattering the records of the

(55:39):
old guys who were drinking, smoking, having sex with 10
women before the race. Like like.
What is going? On yeah, and that was a.
Car racing in bike racing too, back then, smoking cigarettes.
Smoking cigarettes. I mean drink sprained champagne
with a with a whiskey nip in your back pocket.

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Like think about it. They were drinking.
Coke in the 80s. They weren't drinking Gatorade.
With. Actually, probably.
Coke in it, Coke in it, right? Exactly.
I mean it's. It's crazy like like talented
day-to-day classes permanent like a guy like Michael Jordan.
LeBron James should be shattering what Michael Jordan

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did in a short amount of time with the medicine and all of
that. And all these guys, all these
young guys like Top Rack, he's going.
To come. To Moto GP and he's going to be
fighting for the 10th place. Which blows my mind.
Because he's such a young talent.
But there's a guy named Marques who just has permanent class and

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that's it. It's interesting you say.
That Bobby. I'm not the biggest NBA fan.
I don't watch all the games. I don't know all the players,
but I'm a fan of greatness and greatness transcends all sports,
right? It just goes into everything.
So watching Jordan, I was listening to somebody talk about
the story on the team and he waslike, we dropped him off.
He's like, drop me off right here at the bar and he's in his

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sweats and and everything and hehas a couple beers.
I'm going to go and drink some beers.
And like we got practice. Like, yeah, yeah, pick me up
before practice. So they pick him up and he's on
the court and he's buzzing. They could smell the beer off
him and they just smelling everything.
And these the players telling the stories, he goes to the
practices like look, I'm seeing 3 rims, I'm going to shoot for
the one in the middle and he's dropping them, training them.

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Some people are just gifted, man.
Like some people just have it. But then you had another person
like Steve Kerr talking about when he was on the Bulls, the 98
Bulls and he was talking about how he didn't have that natural
giftedness so he had to have everything perfect.
That like tire management is done in Moto GP.
He had to manage though his lifeperfectly to be in the NBA.

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He had to practice all day. He had to get the right amount
of rest, get the right amount ofsleep, the right amount of
nutrition and be smart with all of it and use his head for all
of it. Some people are just naturally
gifted and they don't have to dothat much.
That's that's cigars. And everything, Yeah, yeah.
And then other people have to. Work really hard at it 24/7 and

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you know it. It was.
And you know, what's interestingis the Steve Kerr's they tend to
make it because they get, they get the, I don't want to say
work ethic, but they, they, the hunger is different for them
because it's not coming as easy.It's you know what I mean?
And so you, they got to spend more time doing that.
And, and we've seen that with, you know, as you know, the, the
story says, you know, LeBron James wasn't the best kid coming

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out. And you know, we're seeing, I
think the guy was on Showtime, Iforget his name, but like he
wasn't the best coming out. What you.
Mean there was another kid that was.
Better than him, but like, bad decisions, just bad decisions,
you know, and, and just, you know, didn't get him to to to go
play, you know what I mean? And and that, yeah, I figured.
His name? They show they did the thing on
him on Showtime, I think. And you know, he's a big guy.

(58:56):
I forget. Yeah, yeah, it.
It which was unfortunate. So like that, you know, and we
see it a lot. You see it a lot with musicians.
You see a lot with with a lot ofathletes.
Like you know, if not if they don't have the right guidance,
they don't have the right peoplearound them.
You know what I mean? With all the talent, you mean,
you know, you know, they, they still can't get there.
So, you know, the people that just put in the work and, and,

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and, and they get there because they have to put in that work
ethic. I I, I I.
Don't know, I, I, I, I heard about that guy, but I, I just
want to say this for my basketball purist guys.
LeBron James at 15 years old cooked Michael Jordan in the
summer camp when they played. He's been, he played.

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Jordan and LeBron played together.
LeBron was 15 and Cook Jordan. I heard about that, too.
Yeah. So this guy.
That was better than LeBron. That's fake news.
I don't believe it. Either fake news, we'll go with
that. What are you guys thoughts on

(59:59):
reading and his struggles and itlooks like he might be going
back to BSB or going to BSB or go back because he did win a
championship and and just what'sgoing on with the team.
Yeah, I think he's. Done man, he needs to go to BSP
and turn off all the electronicsand see how he can handle it
there, because all the all that crying man I'm I'm tired of

(01:00:20):
seeing that stuff from him and you know you just you just don't
got it bro like it's it's OK. You know you once had it and you
don't have it. You do have to adapt.
You have to adapt and keep it moving, right, but to expect
yourself to still have it and and and blame everything else or
you know, thank you. You need this bike or that bike.
Sometimes you do need to test yourself as a rider.

(01:00:40):
I'll say you do. You might think that because
that other riders on the Ducati or whatever bike he's on that he
has the you know, it's taking him further.
So you have to get on that bike and see.
But he did it and he nothing changed.
You know I'm. Going to say, but you know what?
But so. So oddly enough.

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But I started Moto GP in terms of like a series for a country,
you know, MO, America, BSB and those things type of things.
BSB by far my favorite series. You know that series is so.
Close together, like the top sixriders.
Every week it's somebody different, you know, that wins
the race. And BSB is amazing.
Those guys ride with no freakingrider aids, no electronics.

(01:01:23):
Those guys are freaking elbows freaking hitting each other the
entire race. Those guys ride hard and beat
and they're insane. And the tracks are narrow as
hell too. So I don't know how to do this
shit over there. But BSB, if you can go watch it,
It's it's that good. Seriously, you know it really
is. No doubt I would.
Agree with Smith. Smith Yeah, I love BSB.

(01:01:44):
It's it's. Like what, Moto?
Two's aggressive too, you know, real aggressive.
It's it's, it's like watching Moto 2 without people not using
the blinker and crashing it to imitating people.
No BSB is like. That yeah yeah BS.
Is narrow. Cleaner.
Narrow tracks, real is a cleaner, harder race.
And I think that's the reason that we want to see Moto GP
right, right, right. We, we, we want to lower the

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CCS, get rid of all the assist that Ducati has, you know, the
oil assist going into Turn 8, the bike drop oil, everybody
flips. We want to get we want to get
rid of all electronics in Moto GP, like Mario Kart.
And drop the oil on the track. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All the all the assist, hey, when all that stuff goes.
Away. Who's going to excel?
The guy with the most. Balls, it's still going to be.

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Mark, it's going to be Mark evenbetter probably because like
that that guy is used to the bike shaking and moving around.
He comes from that motocross background.
There's going to be a few of those guys up there.
It's going to be so fun to watchthe bikes fully stripped down
and down a few horsepower and just more aerodynamic.
It's going to be so fun. Hopefully it gets more like
World Super Bike and BSP like Bobby shakes the Sand.

(01:02:49):
I think that'll be more fun. Yeah, shout out to Chris from
Pin the Gas podcast. He's the he's commenting on
Facebook. He's he said the BSB is proper
mega. Definitely go check it out.
He did go to Catwell Park in 23 and I've had Chris on on on the
show and. Chris.
Is dope, man. I've been on his show.

(01:03:10):
I interviewed him too on his ownshow.
That was a pretty cool time. Yeah, I love BSP.
No, yeah, definitely. So it's it's definitely to watch
BSP and hopefully it'll get there.
So also, and I spitio, I think we were talking about you were
talking about this in in the chat because red and talked
about, you know, pro riders shouldn't be paying for their

(01:03:33):
ride. What are your thoughts on?
I find that odd, actually you. Know I never understood why that
happens, you know, so I started to watch racing years ago.
You know, back when there was. Mickey Hayden, like Eric
Bostrom, Curtis Roberts, Duhamel, you know, Matt, I'm
Aladdin. That's how I started to watch

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racing. And back then Ryan's got paid
even like the middle guys got paid something.
And this whole new thing of you got to spend 200 grand to to get
a ride. I don't see how how it makes
sense at all. I understand that's what it has
become, so you have to adapt to it, but I don't see wise to that
point. It's just it becomes a sport,

(01:04:16):
you know, for rich kids. Honestly, yeah.
That is true. It's unfortunate.
Yeah. I mean, if I may, I I think
it's, it's, it's the the bikes continue to just evolve in class
and technology and everything. And it costs more and more to to
own a bike and race a bike. And you know, you have to have
multiple of these bikes. So it's not even like the the
racing used to be back in the day.

(01:04:36):
And and also back in the day, I think there was a splurge of
motorcycle sales in the 80s, nineties that just allowed them
to just put more money into racing.
And maybe that just didn't work out the way they thought it
would. But it obviously sales have
slowed down a lot. And so is racing money into
racing Rather, you know, that goes hand in hand pots of ships.

(01:04:56):
What's that? No, I mean this big.
Name sponsorship. Yeah yeah.
Sponsorship. Alcohol sponsorship.
Right, OK, I get it. Yeah, they don't want to put you
they. Don't care to put their they'd
rather put it on NASCAR or something else like F1, right.
So it it does come with the eyesand sales and everything goes
hand in hand, I think. OK, so the question.
Is NASCAR the same way? Like do guys pay for cars?

(01:05:19):
Probably not in NASCAR I. Think so.
I think in motor racing if he has a motor, I think they're
paying 'cause you can, you know,the privateers are paying,
riders are paying to, to, to ride on the privateers.
Some of them, I had a, a good friend who raced as well and
he's like, yeah, a lot of guys are paying.
And even sometimes you know, they'll, they'll get the guy

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with all the money and give him the second car while they pay
the guy who's fast and give him the other car.
So gotcha. It it's, it's, it's brutal that
way. And it's unfortunate, but you
know, we all love Motorsports. And if I had the money, I'll pay
you, I mean. They just, they just did a stat

(01:06:02):
right that New York has has New York Cologne has added so many
more millionaires to their demographics or to the
citizenship of New York City. There's a lot, there's a lot of
money out there. And I know everybody probably
wants Pirelli on their front, oryou want Goodyear or you want
Michelin, but there's money out there for you to go write some

(01:06:27):
proposal and get some new faces and some sport, because that's
the only way the sport's going to grow, right?
If everybody has a Pirelli and agood wrench and and and this and
that and a Michelin, maybe we should have Wayfair.
Right, Wayfair's a. Billion dollar company, maybe
Walmart, maybe Apple. Maybe Apple?

(01:06:47):
Can give you some of their AI tools to help you with your
racing and get away from the thePC setup right.
Apple has has 2 trillion in cash, right?
So I think. I think that the way the.
Sport's going to grow is if the riders go out and attract new
people into the sports. Only way it's going to grow

(01:07:08):
Pirelli, Pirelli Pirelli my mother doesn't know what the
hell of Pirelli is she has no idea what the hell of Pirelli is
but I bet if my mom was watchingTV and she saw a guy in a home's
good outfit to go oh I just saw a motorcycle guy in a homegood
outfit and my son has a motorcycle let me TuneIn to the
race and see what's going on right.
We have to expand through sponsorship.
We're not going to expand through viewership.

(01:07:29):
We have to expand through sponsorship and I think.
There's a lot of money. Out there, a lot of money and
you can get it. I think it's viewership.
Too, man, because this year has record viewership in Moto GP and
Moto America and I don't know why I haven't kept up with World
Super Bike, but I would assume there too.
So there is an upward trend in viewership which will result in

(01:07:52):
sales, which will result in sponsorships getting more eyes.
I think it's a cycle, man. I truly believe it's a cycle
that will, you know, hopefully comes back to where motorcycling
is up there. I hope so, man.
And and. When you.
Say that, though, we're really saying in the US because in
Europe motorcycle and is sure, yeah, it's in the it's in the US

(01:08:12):
and US people, people in the US watching the shows.
I mean, Moto GP now is, you know, TNT is, is now at Moto GP
rounds and stuff like that. And that's huge.
So I think, you know, more TV deals will come, but you, you
need that and but obviously you need the eyes to, to to to to

(01:08:35):
watch the shows. If not, it's hard to get ATV
deal, but is, you know, is I think where teams get to set
their own terms as far as the relationship with the rider.
But it's not a, it's not a, it'snot a, it's not a, there's no
union like the NBA or the, I think the NFL even have a union.
I don't know if it's a writers union and, and, and Moto GP and

(01:08:55):
stuff like that. And they use that to negotiate a
lot of stuff because the NBA hadto fight for all the money that
these young kids are getting. And now and even we see that
with NFL, obviously European football is out the roof.
So what these people are gettingand stuff like that, you know,
So what's European football? I I didn't want to.
Say soccer. You know what I'm saying?
But you. Know no, we just call it

(01:09:16):
football and that's I forgot I was.
Talking to a brick, Yeah, yeah. Yeah, football.
I don't know what the fuck the Americans do, but football?
European football. Football.
Football. Fucking European audience man.
What the? Fuck is that?
So yeah, so I do. Think the the numbers will come

(01:09:39):
around, I think at some point, but it's going to be hard when
teams get to set their own standard.
And it's not like, or donors going to have to do something or
the new owners are going to haveto do something because
obviously F1, we see it, we see the ride, the drivers are
getting good money. And I think that I think that

(01:10:00):
will trickle down because obviously Liberty Media Group
owns Moto GP or a good percentage of Moto GP and
they're in the, I believe they're in the business to make
money. So I think it will come.
But I, it, it, it, it needs to like it.
It's, it's really hard for families to, to keep their kids
who are fast. We know, we all know a lot of

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fast people that can't race in motor America and they have the
skill sets too, but they can't afford to because they they
haven't got a ride or they don'thave the money to pay for a
ride. And, and it's tough when you,
when you know, you know, you guys were mentioning, you know,
being 20 and being able to get race and these kids are racing
from 4:00 and you know, the onlything that's stopping them from
going to that next level is not having enough money.

(01:10:44):
Now I'm telling you. If I have grandkids, he'll be a
Moto GP all right. Yeah.
And then if you look at I followTour de France stuff too their,
their teams, you would imagine cycles, right?
They're cycles. Just think about a cycle.
These cycles cost fifteen, $20,000.
They're not cheap cycles, right,but just.

(01:11:04):
Think about the. Lowest budget on the team if you
guys don't know I I would be laughing at your guests the
lowest budget teams like 35,000,000 a year the.
Higher one of France like. UAE.
Yes, UAE, the UAE team Everett's120 million, a 150 million from
from UAE, they're bringing all their money and putting the best
rider in the best seat. And it's a team of like 20

(01:11:26):
riders. So they have to pay them all a
salary. The top rider gets millions.
They they, they get rich out there, man.
So I know it's possible to kind of look past in Moto GP level.
I know it's possible to get all the funding to fund all the
bikes on the grid eventually, right?
But I don't know if that's goingto trickle it all the way down
to Moto America and World Super Bike to that point, because

(01:11:48):
racing's expensive, man. At the end of the day, these are
bikes technology constantly updating, so it's a lot of money
they have to throw at them. I don't know if he'll ever get
to that point. It's crazy.
Right, like when you talk stay on Tour de France, the United
States Postal Service used to sponsor a team.
Yeah. They were.
That that it's the money has gotten really crazy and

(01:12:10):
unfortunately now. I coach girls to.
Cross out in Belmont, and my problem with Belmont is because
it's such a rich town, all my talent goes to private schools.
I still have talent that. Goes to the public schools, but
a lot of my high end talent goesto the private schools.
So that means Belmont Public system, the lacrosse team is

(01:12:33):
not. It's still great.
No shake to my girls, still great.
But we're losing talent to the private schools.
We're losing talent to the AA us.
Remember those days when you're like a poor kid in the hood and
you know, you see these stories,I just wanted to play
basketball. Those days are over.
If you're not a millionaire, your kids not playing in the

(01:12:57):
NBA, forget about it. Just not happening.
And and it's happened to all sports. 1st at first it starts
with a high end sports like F1F1, forget about it.
Lewis Hamilton is probably the last Negro ever to friggin race
a car, right? It's over.
And then it trickles down to Moto GP and then triples down to

(01:13:17):
the next sport will be football,American football, even football
in Europe. Forget about it.
It's it's, it's it's it's it's sickening, but it is what it is.
And this is what it is. It's over and wow, it's the
private. Yeah, and and we're.
Seeing that in America now too, because I mean with the talent

(01:13:38):
cup, I think it's called talent Cup or I forget what it's called
now. You know, they're setting up
these bikes to BGP bikes as far as you know, the, the, the feel
and stuff like that. So these kids will have a
fighting chance. The Cramers, right, because over
there it's already, it is like the the football program over
there and stuff like that. They you can go ride bikes

(01:13:59):
everywhere over there and everywhere you can learn over
there. So, and we've seen that in in,
in Moto GP with the nationalities that are in the
sport right now. So yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely
right. It is it is it is very hard for
someone without connections or money to to be in the sport
right now or any sport, because that's the it's hard to compete.

(01:14:23):
I mean, you know, the talented ones will compete, right?
They will shine through. But, you know, when it comes
down to I need money to go to all these places and nobody.
And that's where it, it's like, you know, it's almost like, you
know, back in the day, maybe even still happens, you know,
you know, lawyers would, would, will drug dealers used to get

(01:14:44):
locked up and lawyers will take their case for years and just
bleed them, bleed their money out, you know what I'm saying?
And then, and then they have no money, you know what I'm saying?
So it, it, it's, it's really difficult for, for parents to,
to provide, you know, for, for, for their kids at that level.
And and that's the unfortunate side and, and, and one.
Parent has to stay home. Like you can't have two working

(01:15:06):
parents if your kid is in athletics and you're chasing
that because one kid, one parenthas to be on the road with the
child you're. All over the place.
You're, I mean, that's a fact. Clinic, Clinic.
Clinic you're all over the placeso man my buddy my.
Buddy Riston, Greg, shout out tohim.
He's a Moto America. He he's a teammate with Cam

(01:15:27):
Peterson. He he's injured himself in
qualifying the first race of theseason.
He's been out had a fusion. He's just getting back on a
track this weekend. NC bike to test out.
But his dad man, shout out to him Steve.
He's spending all his weekends just travelling up and down the
US, the coast, everywhere, driving, driving the trailer,
right. So that's that's a dad's job if

(01:15:48):
you're an athlete. It's it's, it's it's man.
Where have we come? I mean, you know, I.
I think that, you know, we, we have to, I think that, you know,
we have to talk about it like we're doing and find a different
way for these for folks to, to get capital.

(01:16:11):
You know, there are a lot of, there are a lot of people with a
lot of money that do want to give it away and it's just a
matter of figuring out how to connect with them and, and, and
make it where it makes sense to help riders.
You know what I mean? I think so because at the end of
the day, it's like the teams, like some teams again, you know,
will they'll, the, the riders can't have their own personal

(01:16:32):
sponsors, right? And, and so now the team has all
the sponsors and they're gettingall the money.
So, you know, you know, that that's an issue right there, but
get past that, you know, it has to be the community that comes
together and figure this thing out because it, it, it does take
away from the, the motorsport, especially when, like when we
know people and, and, and we seethe struggles and, and it's a

(01:16:54):
lot for, for young riders to, not to say they shouldn't be
doing it, but it's a lot to, to reach out to a lot of companies
to try to get sponsorships right.
And it's one thing if the company's into motorcycle or the
owners are into motorcycles, butif they're not into motorcycles,
it's really hard to say, Hey, let me, I got, I can bring, you
know, 1000 people to your shop or 500 people to your whatever,

(01:17:18):
right? Because they're, they're,
they're not doing it just to saywe're doing it.
They're doing it with the expectation that they're going
to get a return on the investment and and so they
should. It's a business.
It's it's, it's racing, but it'sa business right there.
The reason why I give you Ducatito to spin around a track 12
laps is so that Jimmy could go and buy one of those things,

(01:17:39):
right? The reason?
Why I give you Yamahas to do thesame exact thing.
So yeah, it's a business. Yeah.
I mean, you got to put asses in the seats, you got to put
eyeballs on the TV, and we got to get these things shipped.
We got to get these bikes shipped.
It's business. It's a business.
Get them shipped. Get them out of here, right?
Right. Chris is saying maybe we need to
get cigarettes and beer back on the bikes.

(01:18:00):
I agree 100. Percent, man.
Not a bad idea. That that would be great.
Never happened. Never happened.
Smoking Joes, Yeah, I mean. I mean you.
You. I mean, the the, the the guys
that I think I mean that this isthis is AI shouldn't even say

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this aloud. I don't know why even the fuck
I'm even going to say this aloud.
But like marijuana dispensaries have money that they can't burn.
But do you want to see a weed leaf on on a bike?
So I mean, it's how do we, how do we get the sport to eyeballs?

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All getting the same amount. Of money but we all know that
the people that have all the money are just bad sponsorship
for the sport like do you want to see mark Marquez ripping
around the track with Ozempic written on his shirt like you
know I don't want to take an ozempic I think they pushed it
with only. Fans, that's not as far as
they're going to go. Jesus.
Christ, only fans got money to burn, but I think I think A-Team

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like Apple if you approach Appleand say hey listen, you got you
got 2 trillion in cash. Let's, let's use your resources,
your AI to compete with Hewlett Packard or Dell.
And you know, let's build another, another revenue stream.
And then now maybe we could stream that on Apple TV.

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Maybe while the race is, while the riders going around the
track, you could flash a, a iTunes link to buy a hot, hot
album. There's a lot of ways that we
could increase revenue in the sport.
It's just the fact. I think the number one problem
is with all these sports is the fact that the team principal
wants all the money and the rider can't do is do jail and

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get his own cash. I think that's the problem if
the rider can get his own sponsorship and make his own
deals. Fucking 200 grand.
For a bike that's piss money andsome riders.
Can it comes down to the deal you make with the team and, and
stuff like that. And when it's and when it's mom
and dad helping with the deal and, and somebody's offering you
150 grand and you're giving up, you know, your rights and name

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and likeness and stuff like that.
You're happy to get the 150 grand versus a lawyer might say,
let's let's figure out all theseother things and stuff like
that. And, and, and that's the
education part. So, you know, but it, it has to
happen because this, we love thesport.
I think the sport and I think weknow the sport took a hit in the
90s on and, and, and you know, for the last, I think 5-6 years

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we've been trying to bring it back in the US and stuff like
that. You know, when I talk to people
and tell them I, I ride bikes, you know, they, you know, you
know, one in one in five, tell me how scary it is.
And they won't let their husbandor their kids ride or anything
like that. And, and that's a, you know,
that's a different, that's a stigma.
We have to, we have to change because, you know, it's better

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for kids to go ride motorcycles than to be on social media.
At least your self esteem will be intact, right?
I mean I also. Too, like I worked in most high
industry. That's just an industry that
dies one 1% a year. It's it's, it's just
motorcycling. It's just something that just
dies 1% every year. It's it's just an industry that

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can't. That just.
Can't get. Forward now in the US, the only
thing that's going to save. Motorcycle.
Racing. What you got there, it's the
baggers. It's it's Harley.
Davidson Oh man, that's. Crazy that might be the only

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thing to save in Moto America dealership.
And and and what's going? To happen is too, because that's
real racing. Like if you know the history of
Harley-Davidson and Indian, likethat's racing.
I mean, this Moto GP shit that'scoming from Cafe Racing guys
driving around to get cappuccinos, right?

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That's where Moto GP comes. From bunch of cappuccino guys.
America. Is balls to the wall, the twin
power and I think once the baggers go into Moto GP, you're,
you're going to see an influx that might be the savior.
That might be the savior. Harley-Davidson HD for life, it

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seems, it seems like. It and I was giving you crap so
many years ago. Shakes man.
Hey, listen. I, I and I, and I don't want to
get all historical. I shoot Nikon because Canon was
the best camera. I'm I'm always going against the
grain. And when we were shopping bikes
and me Rexy were on pedal bikes one night.

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And I mean, we're going at a clip, right?
Kind of like 20 miles an hour. And then Rexy said, you know
what? I got to go faster.
I go, I mean, shit, I mean we blew through every red light.
What do you mean go faster? So I got to go faster and that's
when he started. He's going to go and get a
Ducati and he got bought the Street Fighter.
Then I started doing my own research and I just went down to
Harley-Davidson rabbit hole. And as a black person,

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Harley-Davidson has done so muchfor the black community that I
just thought, shit. I want a Harley-Davidson.
The the customization comes fromblack culture, the racing.
They had a black female, they used to tape her tips down and
all type of crazy shit because the white boys would kill her.
The first, the first man to own any type of dealership was a

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Harley-Davidson dealership. Like Harley-Davidson sold a
franchise to a black man back inthe day, which was just crazy.
So I think and Harley-Davidson understand this because
sometimes they do a thing calledIron Elite.
Well they do documentaries on black riding over the last 200
years in this country. Well, I'm lying not 200 a
hundred. I should know this 100 and 18120

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years to Harley-Davidson has been around.
I think that if Harley an Indian.
I think that's. It you see it in the streets,
you see it on Instagram, you seekids Wheeling FXR, you don't see
kids really Wheeling sport bikesanymore.
You see guys Wheeling baggers. I think that's the next phase

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and I think Moto GP is doing theright thing.
Like, shit, let's get some baggers in, let's get a whole
different market. They got 12.
Rounds next year, yeah, I mean. So, so, you know, I mean, I love
you cappuccino guys. But you know you.
Guys are all skinny and look weird.
Hey, Jessica's. Jessica's drifting got popular.
You ain't never seen a drift carin F1, have you?

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Right. No, no.
No, I see no bagger, you ain't. Going to see a bagger in Moto GP
that's for sure. Like that.
No, no, no. No, I know they're there, but
yeah, yeah, but not. Not on replacing, not replacing,
not beating in on super bikes are.
Going to be super bike and. World Super bike the future.
Of motorcycle racing is the baggers.

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That's the future. Sports bike stuff is is it ain't
going nowhere. I kind of see that in some.
Ways there's a trend, it's a trend thing, maybe trend it's
it's the new. Thing a lot of young kids are
riding. Why?
Because I remember at one point,I mean, what is an R6 now?
The last time I left an R6 was like 15 grand.
Brand new R6 was. 15 grand, that's crazy.

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But now you can get you can get a motorcycle, you can get a a
1200 Sportster for 1500 bucks to2500 bucks.
So we're seeing because of the because.
Sport bikes and. Super Bikes has priced everybody
out. Shit, man.
Hey, Dad. What are you doing with that
bagger in the garage? Nothing but at the end of the.

(01:25:42):
Day Those baggers, you can race them, you can spend a lot of
money to race them. They're just not built to race,
man. They don't feel good racing.
You can take a factory bagger and you just ain't gonna feel
good on the track, man. That's not.
True, man. Yeah, it won't.
It's not a sport bike. It's not a sport bike.
It's not. A sports bike.
But man, sport bikes are made to.
Lean they're everything is made to be.

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The shape of it The shape of. It isn't meant to sit on it for
hours like a bagger. It's meant to go fast,
comfortably. There is, there is.
No feeling, you ask? Anybody that rides baggers and a
sports bike. There is no better feeling than
scraping a foot peg. There is scraping.
Your elbow, No. Yeah, scraping your elbow is
pretty dope. No, I'm.

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Telling it's not, I'm telling it's not.
A lot of guys and a lot of guys that we know, Rexy, they went
from sport bikes. Indians.
Right. It's happening here.
It's just a better feeling, man.It's it's, it's, it's, it's more
power up, just just raw power. It's it's, it's power that you
could slide instead of power that you can really and I guess,

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but we'll see it's. The future it's.
The future and and I know you guys hate it, but you know the
future all right. Speaking of.
Future we're going to get out ofhere pretty soon and let's talk
about Bruno, Czech Republic. Any surprises that we're going
to see? You guys just going to say
Martine? You're gonna see Martine.

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Back Let's see that Bez's day might be over.
Bez's. Bez's He's family.
Now. He's up there.
He's up there now. He's he's definitely a
contender. And and I'm not, I'm just saying
Martin's going to have a struggle.
I think, I truly think he's going to struggle a little bit
there getting on back on the Aprilia and he looks smooth.

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He looks great in those photos. But I, I don't know exactly how
it's going to go in the, in the race.
Very interesting to see that. That's all I'm going to be
focused on too. So for Bruno, that's like I'm,
it's like when Mark came, got onthe Ducati and the Valencia
test, all eyes were on him. That's how it's going to be for
him. Man, I I can't wait to see that.

(01:27:51):
Yeah. And I kind of kind of for the
same way it's good seeing our team back on a bike that he
thought wasn't good. That is good, but he's been out
so long, has ridden at that pacein quite a while, so I doubt
he'll be, he'll be, you know, like up to speed from, you know,
this first week, but maybe the race after that he'll pick
things up low. So to be honest, if he's in the

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top ten, I'd be surprised. Put a little money.
Cinderella strip club man what's?
That heels and some dollars there you.
Go, Martine. There you go.
What is that? That looks like the trophy.
They gave that wood trophy. That's it, That's it.

(01:28:34):
Money and a pair of high heels for that guy next talk with.
Oh man, let's see. I mean, Bez, you going to anyone
else has a shot besides Alex Marquez?
Yeah. I mean, do you think Bez did?
She did. She was racing.
So he'll he'll did you may. But Alex Beko Costa.

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Maybe a KTM up? There, as I was going to say,
could be Maverick, could be Acosta.
Oh yeah, and Polo. Sparker is a place in Vinales,
so yeah, right. Right, right.
OK, that's right. Vinales is out.
Yeah, Vinales is out. So the test rider, so obviously
he raced in, for those who don'tknow are in Moto GP and became a

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test rider. He actually gave up his seat for
Acosta, you know, which is, and,you know, he's doing TV and, and
being a test rider for KTM. So, yeah, I think Bez has a good
shot. You know, I think it's the usual
suspects. Dizzy has a good shot.
I don't know if Mobideli's goingto be back this, this round.

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So I, I think he, you know, depend on, you know, his
recovery and, and how healthy heis, you know, where he'll be at
and stuff like that. It'll be interesting to see
Alex. I mean, he did ride well, but
it's a quick turn around, right?And, and so I, I know that hand
has to, it might have been hurt.And Monday, Tuesday after racing
and stuff like that. So it'll.

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Be interesting to see. How, how, how this track plays
out for him. But it should be a good round,
yeah, And Quaalude should be. Good in the morning.
Quatararo too. It's.
Interesting to see if he's goingto get another pole, you know,
so he might be up there somewhere.
Yeah, it was. Good to see Quatararo before we
get out of here on the podium too, you know, cuz he has had a

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lot of bad luck, even though it's just a Sprint race he's
had, he's had a lot of bad luck and and for him to at least get
one little something. I don't know, I don't know if
his, you know, it's makes him feel really good, but at least
it's you know it, it's not just going down anymore.
It's starting to go up a little.So good morale boost for.
The team for sure, for sure. Hi fellas.

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