MotoGP Japan 2025 Round 17 Recap in S5 Ep 31

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Welcome back to another edition of the Beef Ever Cool podcast.
Might as well might as well say global podcast cause a lot of
people are liking what we're doing.
My name is Rex 45. We got a lot to cover tonight,
you know, we got Moto America, we got World Super Bike, we got
Moto GP, there's some championships crowned, there's

(00:22):
some back stories. We're going to have a lot of fun
left, but let's bring out bring the fellas in one at a time and
see how things are going. What's going on TJ, man, welcome
to the show. You got to take in Jersey,
Jersey as a as a as a as a fan. So how you doing man?
I'm doing great. It was a long drive.

(00:44):
It was a fun experience. I love going, you know, every
time. It's my second time going to
Jersey. But it was a great atmosphere as
always. The weather was perfect, you
know, did some tests riding there on a couple bikes that
they had and demos and walked around and see some of the
racers and watched all the races.
So took an OL in. Hi, listen, Mary.

(01:08):
Well, there's a lot to cover cause a lot happened.
Grace, man, welcome back to the show.
Man, what's good? I was good man, glad to be back
in long weekend, crazy weekend so.
You know, I'm looking forward tohearing about it.
It's, it's, you know, from from my standpoint, it looks like a
successful season overall. But if you don't get the taste

(01:31):
of champagne at the end, you can't really spell success.
So how are things? No, I mean, we'll get into that.
I mean, I mean overall still a good year, you know, still good.
We got some positive info, some positive data coming back.
So we're ready and just gearing up here for a world sewer bike

(01:54):
so. That's what's up.
I can't wait to hear about that.We're going to bring everyone
in. I mean you let's try it out
there we go technology. It looks like Lewis we got we
took too long for Lewis. We're waiting for him to connect
back, but we'll jump into it. We'll start with TJ man, come
on, give me give us the play by play of of of the weekend.

(02:15):
First of all, you got free tickets.
So that that was cool. You know, so I'll need to start
from there. Like I said before the show
start, this is anything you wantto talk about it kind of show.
Man, so I was just there just seeing what it what everything I
had to offer. Obviously I was just waiting for

(02:35):
the Super bike race and I want to see, you know, the three
races that was going to happen during the weekend, man.
Like what can I say? They, they put it down like
Bobby the, the, the three top runners, Bobby Cam Beauvier and
Gerald Sharon. So they really actually put in a

(02:58):
fight this whole weekend, all three of them battling
throughout all three races. So it was really good to see
watching at different turns and just their preparations, stuff
like that. So and and.
Like, what was the atmosphere like, you know, just getting
around the paddock and stuff, getting access to people, you

(03:20):
know, what was that like? I mean, it was, it was busy.
I mean, everyone's moving each direction, like on scooters, on
bicycles or whatever you want tocall it that it has two wheels.
People walk in cars driving, people Wheeling tires.
It was just a busy moment. Demo rides coming in and out.

(03:43):
So I mean, if he wasn't on one of the stands watching the
races, he'd pretty much going tomiss everything.
But you, you, there's a lot of entertainment, a lot of good
food, music, a lot of good vendors, free stuff.
And there's some good, good, good atmosphere.
There's a lot of kids there as well, so some kid friendly
stuff. So all.

(04:04):
Right. That's what's up, Reese, man,
You know, I'll let you tell it, man.
So, you know, it didn't go exactly how you guys wanted it
to go. It's, it's, it's unfortunate,
you know, is, is in a situation like that.
I mean, you know, does the riderfeel it a little bit more than
the team? I mean, we both feel it.

(04:27):
The rider feels it, he really feels it.
I mean, he's down, you know, so I mean, but you know, we're
still a lot of high spirits and you know, at this time,
definitely before I even forget,I definitely want to give a big
Congrats to Yamaha for taking the manufacture title for 2025.
A lot of people don't know that.A big shout out to Bobby.

(04:51):
You know, Bobby wrote his behindoff this year and you know, like
I said, it was an overall successful year for Bobby.
A lot of people had counted us out.
They didn't think we would be there, but we were actually
there and we were actually one hand on the trophy.
So that's right there shows thatwe're still here, we're still
competitive and definitely give a big shout out to Richard and

(05:12):
the whole my whole team, the attack team.
So what's what happened when people don't see, and I mean
people that were there to kind of see that was a standing
around the the pit, but to actually get Bobby's bike back
up and running after race too, to pretty much give him a whole
brand new bike. I mean within that amount of

(05:33):
time and that was short of amazing.
That team is top notch. And you know, I can't, I love
them guys and I wouldn't ask fora better team or a different
team without them. So definitely give a big thanks
and a big, you know, salute to those guys.
But you know, overall, I think Bobby feels it.

(05:53):
You know, we all feel it. I felt that coming home today,
you know, in the in the airport.So, but like I said, we're all
have high hopes and we're getting ready for air for a
world super bike. You're here for Porto Mall for
Estero. Yeah, we'll talk.
We'll talk about that a little bit because, yeah, I mean, you
know, it, it's, you know, the hardest thing I think, you know,

(06:16):
after, you know, losing a championship, you know, is, is
that that like directly after when you have to, when you just
think about it. But you know, as time passes
and, and like, like you mentioned, you think about the
whole season, you know, it was asuccess story overall.
You know, the results doesn't dictate, you know, the the work
put in and, and that you guys have done for the, for the whole

(06:40):
season and stuff like that. And to, you know, for a guy to
be on a bike for first year to do something, you know, that
impressive. It, it, it, it's, you know, it's
the likes of what you know, Markdid last year, going to Grassini
and, and being able to, you know, you know, do what he did.
So no, definitely. So.
Do you got? You know, now you're going to

(07:00):
Puerto Mayo, so let's talk a. Little bit.
Is is? Go ahead.
Yeah, well, I was used to continuing the concession.
I was going to talk about Bobby,but I'll I'll wait.
No, Well, go ahead, 'cause we'regoing to talk about Puerto Mayo
and see if the is, is it the whole crew that's going?
Which is it? You know Bobby and and and the
the crew chief. I mean, the whole crew's going.

(07:26):
I mean, of course only certain members of the crew are going to
work because they don't need allthe crew to work for just one
rider. But I mean, we'll all be there
in support and have a good time as a whole.
Family. That's what's up.
That's what's up. Go ahead, TJ.
Well, yeah, and I was going to chime in on on the attack
Yamaha. So definitely want to give

(07:46):
Congrats to the Yamaha team because you know, they
definitely still stepping stone.They put in the work and like
you said, we got the title. It was good meeting Reese there
as well in person. And Lewis and, you know, just
seeing the environment. They're very professional, very
respectful. But I just know that just what

(08:10):
Bobby did this year is just amazing.
And he's so humble and I, I just, I just know just back in
his head is just like he has a lot on the table and he can't
fuck up, you know, And it was just probably just so much
stress on him and just to try tohold the points because like, he

(08:30):
did win race one, got that out the way.
But race 2, like I was sitting, I don't remember the turn
number, but little chicane. I think it's like turn six or
seven. There was a point where Josh
Hannan would always like kind oflet off the gas a little bit to
to like, you know, gain momentumor push and and you know, Bobby

(08:54):
tire rounds his at one point andthen later down the race is the
same, same corners where Bobby crashed out right, right.
And I think. Heron uses a lower gear than the
Yamaha. Yeah, in that, in that turn is
what I heard. But yeah, and then that's when
Bobby made his little gestures and stuff like that, and then it
was wide open from there. So that Race 3 was pretty big,

(09:18):
and it was just unfortunate justto see you probably, you know,
lose it after having to leave. Yeah, thank you.
It was back and forth between the three.
But just still want to say Congrats to the Yamaha team
because that was a hard fight and it's just disappointing.
I know it's a sour taste going home.
And I agree with that. Congrats for real because you

(09:40):
guys did win even though you didn't get the the final piece
because it's been an amazing year and I don't know none of
your guys going to lose sight ofthat because you guys have been
there before so and you'll be there again so and I.
Think we appreciate it. I think Bobby is going to learn
a lot from this and be even stronger next year.
So I'm, I'm, I'm looking forwardto next season for sure.

(10:02):
Lewis man, you know you, you've been in and out.
You know, here's your chance to to talk about Motor America and
your thoughts of the overall weekend.
You know the likes and dislike. You know all the all.
The. And you know, we might change
your last name now. No, no, no.

(10:22):
Yeah. Let me start by saying thanks to
to everybody that came up and and said hi, that kind of knew
us from the pod. I was surprised, man.
I was surprised by how many people just randomly would shout
out like, hey, are you Luis Ortega or hey, are you the
numbers guy? And it was, it kind of caught me
off guard because it's the firsttime that I've had somebody, you

(10:43):
know, people noticed me and fromthe pod and, and, and all the
feedback was great. All the feedback was super
positive. You know, they like what we talk
about, they like what we expand and they like when we talk about
racing, but they, they like whenwe expand a little bit and talk
about other things outside of racing, but motorcycle related.
So it was good. It was just good get to get
feedback first hand. I mean, I get a lot of emails

(11:04):
and I get a lot of messages on Instagram, but when you see the
fans in person and you get to talk to them and they, you know,
they, you kind of, they know that, Hey, you know what the,
they do know what they're talking about.
Like we're, we're all invested in what we're saying.
We're all invested in the sport.We, we enjoy it, we like it, the
good, the bad, the ugly. We're there for it.

(11:25):
So I want to say thank you to that.
As far as the weekend, a great weekend as far as the turn out,
the event itself, you know, Reese can tell you there were
more people there on Saturday than I've ever were seen there
on Saturday. I think there were more people
there on Sunday that I've ever seen on a Sunday.
I mean, they were parking cars almost all the way to the

(11:45):
Lightning track, which is for those of you that know the track
layout, that's the other side ofthe track.
So people were walking from Lightning to Thunderbolt or if
you have to walk that. I mean, Reese, what do you
think, man? That's like a mile and a half
walk from one track. That's a cool walk man.
You get your steps in that day. So for the, for the event, for

(12:07):
everything, it was great. As far as the, the, the, the
happenings within the weekend, Iwas, I was super happy for the
results on Friday. I wasn't surprised.
The only thing that surprised mewas, you know, heroin obviously
didn't have pace and it showed, you know, he showed some, some

(12:28):
pace in the very first practice.But after that, when everybody's
lap times really started to drop, you know, the reason why
Aaron started in 7th place, it wasn't set up and it wasn't
anything else. Like he didn't have pace.
He had great launches and he's got a he's got a bike that has a
lot of grunt and everybody knowsthat and he knows how to take
advantages of the weaknesses andthe strength of that bike.

(12:50):
So he was able to get past, you know, the guys in 6th, 5th and
4th and quickly get himself intothe top three or four in every
race. But towards the end of every
race, you saw that his pace was dropping.
And This is why he had the tactic he had.
And, you know, some people mightnot like it, some people might
like it. Some people say it's race craft,

(13:11):
he's a crafty racer, this and that.
He intentionally was slowing thetraffic down for multiple
reasons. One, because he knew at the end
of the race he didn't have the pace to go with somebody if they
got in front of him and really started to put some time down.
We saw that in Race 1. Bobby was able to get out to a
four second lead. Two of those seconds were a
fucking track marker in the backthat doesn't know how to read a

(13:32):
Blue Flag, which should get black flagged and not allowed on
a Moto America track ever again.Because this is a championship
racing weekend and you got some guy that's lapping around 8 1/2,
nine seconds slower than the guys at the front, and he
doesn't know how 2 flag works. Bro, that's a Black Flag.
Get off my track. Never come here again.

(13:52):
Disqualification. In the second race, Josh did
what Josh needed to do again. Like it or dislike it, he jumped
in front and he tried to intentionally slow the pace down
because he understands his only opportunity to win is if Bobby
and Cameron have an incident. You know he was too far out of

(14:13):
the points of that side. So the only thing you could do
is try to slow the pace down andhope that either those guys
start battling with each other or somebody else that has
nothing to do with it starts battling with them.
They start to try to do something risky to get around
them and possibly crash to give him again that glimmer of hope
that he might still be able to win.
Hate it or love it, it's a race tactic.

(14:34):
It is what it is. And you know, several of the
people had said that, you know, he takes a different mind.
He tends to slow mid corner because he uses a different
gear, because he's trying to usethe grunt to get out of the
corners. But you know, if you're
intentionally slowing the pace, you're also putting people at
risk because if five other guys are coming through the same

(14:56):
corner at a specific pace and they're expecting you to be on
the gas as a professional at theapex and you're still neutral
throttle or lower the neutral throttle at the apex and after
the apex because you're trying to fuck up everybody else's
corner speed because you don't have corner speed.
Again, it's a tactic, but it's ashitty tactic.

(15:18):
So we should. We should.
Kick a Noni out of world super bike.
Well, I mean, again, this is a tactic.
I'm not saying that it's illegalor anything else.
It's a shitty tactic, but it's atactic and it's the only tactic
that he had because again, he needed both Cameron and Bobby to
crash for him to have any chanceto retain his title because he

(15:39):
was out of it. You know, he was well, well out
of it. And unfortunately, Bobby race
the way Bobby races all year. Bobby, Bobby goes out there and
he's, I hate to say it, man, he really is a win it or been a guy
like I can't slow down. I can't just settle for second
or third even when he should settle for second or third

(15:59):
because that's not the way he is.
You know, anybody that knows Bobby like I got to do my pace.
I got to do my corners, I got todo my apexes the way that I do
them. This is the way that this is
what got him here. This type of riding got him to
this point this time of the yearand this ain't the time to try
to change that. The way he rides, man.
And everybody online, all the ohby the way, all the previous

(16:23):
super bike champions online, thethousands.
I didn't realize there were so many goddamn super bike
champions in the US. Fuck the the thousands of super
bike champions that are going online and giving Bobby advice
on how to ride. I'm sure Bobby is going to
listen to it because I mean, with all the titles you fuckers

(16:46):
have and all the Super bikes that you guys have ridden at the
top level, I mean, shit, I mean,Bobby only owns the the track
record at two or three tracks. I guess these other thousand
guys on the track records everywhere else because it's
like, holy shit, man. And you know, again, bro, social

(17:06):
media is toxic. We know that.
We know how people get manipulated very easily.
You know, people are putting up,oh, here's Joshua's track data.
It'll easily show you what he was doing.
And 90% of these guys can't evenread a menu at fucking
Cheesecake factor. You think they know what track
data looks like? I could, I could put a EKG up

(17:27):
there and be like, this is trackdata.
They have no clue. So is is I.
Mean. That, that type of criticism
that because I, I, I see it as well.
And I, you know, you know, you want to expand on that a little
bit because, you know, as a writer, it's hard not to see
that stuff on, on your feed and,and all those comments and stuff
like that. And, and you're absolutely right

(17:49):
on just the facts being the numbers guy, right?
But you know, there's still people that want to come out
and, and give advice and, and, and say all these things and,
you know, you know, I guess not.I'll, I'll, I'll push this to
Reese. I mean, you know, how, how do
you other writers have coped with that in the past?
And I mean, you guys only been with Bobby for one year and,
and, and this is still all brandnew.

(18:12):
You know, how do you guys, you just, you know, become a title
family? How do you guys deal with that?
I mean, honestly, we just kind of ignore it.
You just kind of you kind of brush to the side.
I mean, because everyone's goingto have their opinions,
everyone's going to have their face.
I mean, I've had people hit me and say, Oh, BMWs won this top
this, this that. I'm like where, you know, I've

(18:33):
had people tell me certain aboutfactory teams over in world
super bike. I've had people tell me, you
know, I've seen people say Bobbychoked or this and that.
I'm like, really like, unless it's it, you want to speak on it
and you want to talk about it and it's like, there's no point
because as you know, you're, youknow, my mom always told me when

(18:53):
growing up, ignorance is bliss. And you know, it's like people
don't, they're going to say whatthey want to say.
And it's, it's no disrespect to them.
That's just what they want to say.
But it's like, like Lewis just said, the social media nowadays
is all toxic. It's just like, you know,
fortunately, I, I, I go back as to, you know, when I first
started writing, it's like the Suzuki, you know, of course,
sorry, Lewis, but it's that one person, that one person said

(19:17):
that Suzuki's best. And guess what?
It just followed down the line and Suzuki's the greatest thing
walking on God's given earth. And now everybody's like, oh,
Suzuki did Suzuki died. And I'm like, OK, cool.
But it's, they're missing now. It's a Ducati thing and they're,
it's just, it's one person will make like a, a trend and it's
just, it goes from there and it's just a snowball effect.

(19:39):
And you know, people would sit there and say, oh, there, there
weren't that many fans at MO of America or MO of America's
falling. I'm like, like Lewis said, there
was, we looked, they, I talked to one of the MO of America reps
and the, and the jersey reps andit was record-breaking numbers
for New Jersey's round. They had more fans in jersey

(20:00):
than they've ever had on their weekend.
It's all because it was very. Cool.
It it, it's because they knew wewere coming, bro.
They they heard on the pods, we down the pod, we were going to
be in there like yo, let's buy some tickets.
So I mean it's it's that. All joking aside, this is what

(20:23):
we want, you know, as, as you know, people who, who want to be
part of the, the, the, the racing community, the business
side of things. That's what we want as a fan
side. That's what we want as well, you
know, to to hear that, you know,jersey had record-breaking
numbers and hopefully that carries over into Daytona in the
in the next next March and so forth until next year.

(20:45):
That's kind of what we want. I mean, they obviously we get
more people talking with the, with the AI edited, you know,
data and stuff like that. But with more breach, I think
we're going to we're going to get that negativity right.
Of course you're going to alwaysget the negativity, even like
Lewis said. I mean, people can't read data.
I mean, hell, to be honest, I'vebeen there now 11 years and I'm

(21:06):
looking at the data like this shit look like spaghetti, you
know, like squiggly lines. And you're like, I'm trying to
get them to like, all right, so that's the tired temp.
OK, So I'm like, I got to like be taught.
And I'm like, this is this is crazy.
So for someone to sit there and say, oh, yeah, I can see it.
I can see it. I'm like, no, you can't.

(21:29):
And again, anybody get the problem is even 90% of the facts
are fake. I could take a screenshot from
data from another guy and put iton there and be like, hey, it's
data. Like there's there's no way to
equate it. The only people that know what
was going on on that track were the guys on the track.

(21:50):
And the feedback from the guys on the track was that that was
the feedback that they felt thatthe pace was being slowed
intentionally. And you can see on the video, in
race one, halfway through the race, there was 1 bike that was
sliding like more than any otherbike, and it was sliding at the
same three or four or five points.
And that was a Ducati. And in the second race, they

(22:11):
slowed the pace down significantly to try to save
tire because they couldn't seem to manage a tire.
And then in the last race, what happened when Bobby and Cameron
got away in front, a certain Ducati started dropping like a
fucking stone because they didn't have the pace.
So much so they got passed by Suzuki.
Yeah, baby Suzuki. No boy, baby coming back.

(22:34):
Right, listen, I, I could, I could say this, this is what I
can say and I'll, I'll, it will contest to what Lewis just said.
When the certain person got out front, the pace was at the low
and mid. It was at the mid 20s.
It was a 20.3, a 20.5. That was the pace.

(22:57):
When the other got out front we were at a pace was at a 21.7 to
a 21 point, I mean a 22.3. Wow.
So yeah, so, so now you move it,you guys are going over to.

(23:18):
No, and just one last thing. And then you know, Jersey is a
for anybody who's written it, it's a very hard track to pass.
There's only a couple of clean passing places.
And if you can get the grunt of your bike to block somebody into
turn one, it becomes a single lane track until you get to turn
5. And there's you could do the
Comic Con, the inside and try tomake the turn of turn 5.

(23:40):
Then there's no other passing realistically unless there's a
mistake until turn 1 again. So you know, you can block
people at turn 5 and not motor people to turn 1 and then park
it in turn one. You're not going to get really
get passed against five. So you kill somebody's drive
coming out of turn 3. They can't really get a drive to
pass you at turn 5. And then you got the growth

(24:01):
again at turn 1. So now it becomes this, you
know, this kind of like slinky effect where every time you
think you got room, the room hasgot and every time it starts to
stretch, it collapses again. And This is why you saw in the
third race and in the first race, when other riders got in
front of that rider, they were able to set their pace and that
rider couldn't. We saw it on one and we saw the

(24:24):
same exact thing. Phase three.
His tactic is tactic. I understand why it is.
And to be honest with you, in myposition, in the same position,
I'll be doing the same shit because I'm trying to win at all
costs. Short of causing somebody to
crash, I'm trying to win at all costs.
So like get a hate it, you know,it is a tactic and you got to

(24:46):
accept it. But you know, at least now we
know that, you know, Jersey got the benefit and Moto America got
the benefit from 1. The Baggers were there and two,
the most important three races of the season happened in the
last two days of the season. And I think that's why so many
people showed up to to jerseys. There were stakes, there was a

(25:09):
reason to go there. It wasn't raining for once,
Thank God, you know, So all these factors put together, This
is why we had a great turn out. We had a great event.
And even though it didn't turn out the way everybody maybe had
hoped for, at the end of the day, we still got a great
champion because Cameron Bovier,his story is, is important too,
man. Kevin Beaubie has had a rough,
rough time over the last 5-6 years, man.

(25:31):
He went to Moto 2 and he struggled.
He went, you know, he stayed there probably way longer than
he should have, thinking that the team would be able to come
around and give him a bike that he can compete with.
And he comes back and he gets onthe BMW and the bike is not
there. You know, everybody thinks, oh,
the BMW is great. There's one guy that's
consistently fast on the BMW andhe's an alien dude.

(25:53):
How many other people have racedthe BMW and struggled?
Scott Ready couldn't make it work.
You know, all these other guys couldn't make it work.
There's one dude that's been able to win on the BMW.
Besides top. Rack besides top rack.
Yeah. And now Cameron, even, he'll
tell you the bike's not very easy to ride, but he finds a way

(26:16):
to ride it. And I'm super happy for that
guy, man. You know, he's had concussions.
He's had injuries like he almostconcussed himself out of the.
Sport. So as much as I rooted for
Bobby, yeah, crack dude, this guy's been through it.
So as much as I rooted for Bobby, once, you know, we saw
that Bobby wasn't going to get it, and I saw who was in second

(26:37):
place, I was like, you know what, man?
If this, if it's destined for him to get this title, then let
him get this title. Because this guy's been through
the ringer, man, and he's a super deserving guy.
Yeah, I agree. You know, so and next year we're
going to have two BMWs in in, inWorld Super, I mean Motor
America. I think it's going to be 3.

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Oh wow, here it's going to be 3 BMWs, maybe 4.
Depends because Tyler's racing is is is a weird anomaly of a
company. Every year they're going out of
business. Right.
Every year that every seriously at Greece, you know every well
every year the the the the the main sponsor behind Tyler's

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racing has to decide whether or not they're going to go racing
again next year. You know, like Cameron Beauvier
next year might not even be on aBMW because that team might not
be there if the team finds fun I.
Think we? I think we might.
Have lost, but orange cat is definitely going to go racing
minimum. They're going to have two BMWs,

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but they might even bring a third BMW because they're trying
to bring get a a really, really strong team together.
From what I talked to them a little bit this weekend.
I mean they're planning on having four riders.
I don't know where these four riders are going, dude, but
they're having a planning on having four riders.
We're going to have another all one, you know, maybe we'll have

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something else. Yeah, I was about to say show
right. Jack, Jack, they're going racing
super bikes. Yeah, he he's another one that
won the championship. I mean, I don't remember what
the points were hit with with Matthew and PJ, but I mean,
getting a flat tire in race one seems like that he put them out
of the points. I mean, you know, that's also

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another strange way to to elude the championship.
Brand new Dunlop straight from Japan baby.
What are your thoughts on that, TJ?
You, you were there to see it, man.
What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, man, that that race would
happen to be red flags. So it was kind of interesting.
I don't know if there's someone else crashed or caused it or if
it's because PJ had a flat tire,but it was just a strange

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situation. But yeah, that's weird that
you're just the only one to get a flat.
There was. There was a blowout in practice.
Oh my it. Was two blowouts.
Yeah, 2 blowouts. For for who?
Like. Super Sport.
Yeah, what's? Going on over there.

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So they were using the jet, the new Japanese made Dunlop tires
and and they had to pull some and Reese, you could probably
talk about this a little more than me, but from what I
understand, they looked at a specific lot number and had to
pull all of them off the trailerto not give them to anybody else
because those tires were failingthey.

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They were failing because they went to a lower pressure.
That's what they said. They went to an 18 lbs or
something like that and that's what the issue were.
So they didn't, they shortened the race to allow the tires to
to last. That was so.

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Is Blake Davis one of the forefront for the championship
next year now that you know, P JS moving up?
Is Cam moving up as well? Or is it just Schultz and and PJ
moving up to super bike next year?
Just just Schultz and PJ. So.
Go ahead. But I I don't know.

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What Cam's doing, because you know, there's there's some
rumors that there's some some might be some additional changes
in the paddock. You know, I don't I don't like
to speak out of turn, but you know, there's a company that's
not 100% sure if they're going to be able to be back in the
paddock or they're looking for anew funding now.

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I think they'll be able to find it, but more than likely Cam P
is going to end up in super sport and and it'll be it'll be
pretty much Blake Davis, Campy Scott and and Demario.
Like I'm going to give Demario aa a big boost, bro.
That kids, that kids the truth. And and Ray Hall did a great

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job. That's he's an amazing pick up
man. You guys have no idea the talent
because most people only know him from the last couple of
seasons here. But but I have his, you know, I
have his resume from when he wasraising in Italy, man.
And if it wasn't for the fact that, you know, his father got a
job here in the US, that kid would probably be a Moto 3 right
now. Wow.

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All right, that that's. Going to be a cool lineup for
next year for the front runner for sure.
I'm pretty sure there might be acouple of others in there, but
let's move over to Moto GP and then we'll bounce around to
World Super Bowl. All right.
Sorry, Jesse. Sorry, just before we move over,
I definitely want to congratulate our home to New
England or Nathan Betancourt foractually getting a podium on

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Sunday on 3rd place. So it was super exciting to see
another person that I know or you know, be on the track with.
So I want to congratulate the Betancourt family for getting on
the podium and allowed us to getthe tickets as well.
So it's cool to see that, no doubt.
And Nathan? And Mike, you know, man, it's
time to come on the show and tell the story.

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Let's make it happen. But that's, that was dope to see
Nathan, Nathan, Nathan can get on the podium because like I,
we, I, I remember him as a, as a, a little lad on a, on a kick
scooter kicking around the paddock, you know, while dad was
racing and, and you know, dad stopped racing.
So he can put time into get Nathan to where he's at.
And to see them, you know, I, I believe 2, two years in and to

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get on the podium, that's huge. And the kid I did like, he said
he was just 12:00 earlier this year.
So. I'll give you one more little
inside scoop from the day that Iwas at today.
So today I was at the Aprilia track day and NJ and P, they
have the track day right after Motor America's event every year
here. And a lot of a lot of the kids

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from the Twins Cup stayed to ride.
And Alexandra Demario went out on an RSV4 stock bike with St.
Pirelli tires. Running 120 eights bro.
Wow. Stop bike that just.

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A demo bike. Don't break this.
Let's bring it. Back in one piece.
Well, I'll give you another. I'll give you another insight
too to what Lewis said. I guess somebody was out there
doing a track day with him and he was on AI.
Think he was on a super bike andthe Mario pulled away from him

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like he was standing still. So for all those guys out there
talking all the Super bike and trying to give a genius, there's
a kid out there ready to bust you behind on the Blake Blake.
Blake Davis and I'm gonna tell you right now, Blake Davis and
Alessandra Demario are really the young forerunners for being

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that next generation of top races.
When they get to that point, when they get that maturity and
they get big bikes, are they got?
They're going to hurt a lot of feelings, man.
Yeah, it's. It's a trend that's been coming.
I mean, you know, for me, just the last 10 years, seeing these
young kids come up and you see the progressions of of the the
younger ones where they're at now in the sport and stuff like

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that. So, you know, motorcycle racing
in the US is is going in the right direction.
So it's, you know, it's definitely exciting.
And you know, hopefully more heads will be, you know, going
to world super bike or even, youknow, more in the in the Moto GP
Moto two side of things as well.So that way, you know, you got
more, you know, US riders, you know, filling up the the the

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international stage. Speaking of international stage,
let's talk about Japan. Motegi, one of my favorite
tracks. You know, Mark Marquez did his
thing, won the championship. I don't know what the big that
is the biggest news. It is the one of the biggest
comebacks that we can talk about.
Only thing come close is Grant. Grant Hill because Grant was

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hurt for many years. Kim Kardashian.
Had a comeback? Come on man, this is not.
I mean Cameron movie had a comeback.
Listen, listen, listen, listen. Listen, Tiger.
Woods. Kim always has a comeback.
That's the problem in that one. Video in that one.

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Video shit. So we'll, we'll, we'll.
We'll we'll leave it there, but you know, it's still one of the
biggest comebacks out there for more cast because he had a lot
of surgeries in four years and maybe some of the writers may
have retired And you know, he hehe took a gamble.
You know, we've been kind of talking all year that it was his
to lose. Did he did he live up to the

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hype? Is it is it did he win by too
much and and and made it kind ofboring?
What are your thoughts, TJ? I mean, no, he actually made.
It really exciting because when he first got out of Ducati last
year, you know, everyone was just ready for him to start
winning and he gave a little glimpse.

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But once he got that factory seat, I just we kind of already
knew. We just had to prove it.
But we didn't think it was goingto be like this.
Like, you know, I mean, I've been watching Mark for a little
bit and really got into racing afew years ago, but like, like
his comebacks for his injuries and to just smoke people the way

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he did so far and get the championship.
And like he can actually just focus on action.
Like he doesn't like have to do anything else.
Like he got the title and and hestill can probably act to, I
don't know, he's still can get more get points and add to this,
this running zone. So very impressive and still

(36:45):
excited to see the races that wehave left.
There's still some cool tracks, and Kentucky is a cool track as
well. So yeah, no doubt, Reece.
What are your thoughts? You know, like Cam, you know,
Mark did something pretty special, you know, you know, how
does that rank for you as far asyou know, you've been, you've

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been around a motorcycle racing for a while.
You know, we all said he was allof us.
I was probably still on the fence, probably still on the
fence and denial myself. But what are your thoughts on
what Mark did and, you know, getting his 7th GP title in this
way? Because like I said, this is
something like, you know, like Tyson come back and fight and
Ali coming back after going to jail and, and, and all that.

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You know, there's a lot of writers that could have just
said, hey, man, I got enough money, I can live off my Red
Bull check. And, you know, and he decided to
go get his arm broken again and,and, you know, it went to
Minnesota to do it of all places.
And, you know, and, and look where he's at now.
I mean. Honestly, I said it.
I said this last year and you know, I told a couple of friends

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of mine said if this man gets ona red bike, he he's pretty much
going for a second and third. You're not going for first.
The way he showed us pace the first year being on the
satellite bike that just told methis, he gets on a factory bike
with all the new equipment. The factory specs is, is you're
pretty much going to race for 2nd and 3rd.

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But to see him come back after all the injuries, I mean, I was
actually rooting for him. I've been a Rossi fan for a long
time. But you know, they actually root
for him. And to see him come back from
those injuries and with actuallythinking about calling it quits,
I mean, it's something short of phenomenal.
So, you know, it's actually congratulations to him and you
know, it was something nice to see.

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I mean, from from start to finish.
I mean, what from maybe like thesixth round after winning like
this, this kind of one man show right now, you're pretty much
just coming. We all come to say we're coming
to the track to win, but at thispoint in time with somebody like
that, you're just coming to see if I can finish second, right?
Right. Lewis, what are your thoughts,

(38:55):
man? You know, it's, there's, there's
a lot of Marc Marquez ads out there.
I mean, I have to, I have to give.
I have to tip my hat to the man you know. 125.
I mean, I saw him race when he was in the CEV.

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It's an amazing story from. Beginning to end everything, he
has been the competitor he's been since the day he arrived on
the circuit in 125. The rider that he's evolved
into, the talent that he's evolved into.
I mean, we're all fans, so we'regoing to look at it from a fan's
perspective. I would say the true measure of
a champion is how your contemporaries look at you and

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how your contemporaries speak about you.
And it was really great one to see all the other riders when
asked about the accomplishment, all of them said more or less
the same thing in their own way.You know, this is an incredible
thing. If you think about where he was
just six years ago, if you thinkabout everything he's been

(39:58):
through, you know, most other riders would have given up.
Most of the riders would have been retired.
He you know, even in the in the documentary that they have for
Mark Marquez going through his surgeries, even his own family
were like, you got you got enough money.
You know why you don't need to race?
You have this, you have that. Like there's a video going now

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that directly from that documentary where Marquez sits
down with his grandfather who isno longer with us.
And he's he's asking his grandfather, you know, will you
give me a blessing to do this? If I do this one surgery and
they fix it, I can go race again.
And his father's like his grandfather.
I mean, is it pretty much tells him you you have more than

(40:39):
enough money, you don't need to do this anymore.
If you ask me, I'll say no, but it doesn't matter what I fucking
say because you're still going to not do what you want to do.
But if you ask me, I say no. And Marquez is like, no, well,
I'll tell you what, I'll do thissurgery and I'll give it one
last shot and everything he's went through and and again, all
the contemporaries, man, all theother riders have all said the

(41:02):
same thing. This is an incredible thing.
This is an unbelievable comeback.
There's never been something like this before in Motorsports.
Like, yeah, Rossi came back froma broken leg.
A lot of people coming back frombroken legs doing came back from
a destroyed leg so bad that theysold his left leg to his right
leg so that they can circulate fresh blood to try to heal the
broken leg with the good leg. So we've seen riders come back

(41:25):
from some crazy things, but thishere, break your arm, it gets
set incorrectly. So you volunteer to get your arm
broken again to try to get it set correctly.
You leave a team that's paying you millions and not just a
couple 10s of millions of dollars to go to a satellite
team because you're looking for that competitive advantage to

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get back to the top. Like this dude has done
everything possible to grab thattrophy again, man.
And now I think between now and the end of the year, I think
he's going to set a new Type A challenge for himself.
I really think he's going to tryto reach that 600 point plateau,
put that point bar so high that it might never get reached, man,
maybe that we'll never see somebody hit 600 points again.

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And it's out there, it's available to him.
He could do it. Well, well, well.
Let's wait a minute now, Rondell.
He can do it again. You know we.
Made his own record. We.
We. Saw they figured out.
Petco's bike all of a sudden, soI don't know, I don't know, but
you know if it's a one off or but the rest of the season, I
don't know if it's going to be that easy for Mark.

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What are your thoughts on on thefact that Petco did what he we
did this weekend and everybody? The sun shines on a dog's ass
every once in a while, man. So, you know, I I'm getting that
out there, but anybody else getsout there, That sun shines on a
dog's ass every once in a while.Once a day.
So so so you you think? It's it's a one off and you

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know, it's still because for a guy to ride like that, is it all
mental? One, it is mental.
Yes, I mean, it does a lot of it's mental.
If the bike is working properly then yeah, because a lot of
times the bike will work properly and then they won't be
able to just be the rider. So I mean, it could be a a
little bit of both. We don't know.
I mean, nobody knows on that side.

(43:12):
It's like, I mean going on that side of like damn near Fort
Knox, you know, they won't give up their secrets.
So I mean, we we'll never know, but you know, yeah, it's one.
It could be a one time, it may not know.
I mean, we started, I watched the race and I started seeing
the bike start smoking. You know, I'm like, I don't know

(43:33):
what's going on, but I know I did see the man back there Mark
reeling his behind end. So a couple more laps, we might
not have this conversation rightnow.
But Mark did struggle a little bit.
And some of them laps the great.Ones always struggle.
But they figure out. They find a way to turn up all
right, TJ. One off what are you?

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What are your thoughts I mean? I feel like it's a one off
because like I feel like heckledby this point.
I would have performed a lot better.
Kansas see that this race. I mean they want to throw in
another manufacturer, but Juan mirror got a fourth in the

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Sprint and got a podium in the in the GP.
So like that's a one off, you know, so like, I don't know,
it's just a situation. I I really hope that Petco can
find his way though and possiblyfinish top three, at least on
top five for the rest of the year.
So I actually say that he's backor figured something out

(44:37):
actually and and feel improvement, but I don't know.
I don't, I I just can't call it.I feel like Mark Mark is
definitely going to try to set arecord like he's already set the
record, get the 600 plateau Markand he's probably going to try
to beat his own record next year.
So it's going to be even tougherfor our Petco, yeah.

(44:59):
It's it's going to be. It'll be interesting to see
numbers guy, you know, there's, you know, Mark wins the title,
gets on the podium and there's aHonda on the podium as well.
You know one. Do you think if Mark was on a
Honda this year, would he would he win the championship?
Because if he if if you say yes,that means he gave up a lot of
dough to get this championship because the Honda is looking

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good. We haven't brought up, oh, hey,
Martine, you know, with the broken collarbone.
So I'm pretty sure you want to touch on not took out his own
teammate who helped him get intoQ2 like the last round.
I mean, like, is there just someone rider has to have bad juju
in Moto GP? Like what's going on, Lewis?

(45:43):
I mean, if Miguel. Oliveira's in there.
Somebody got to pick up the slack, you know?
Somebody, somebody. Yeah, I'm fucking somebody up
this weekend. I mean, it's, you know, I, I
don't even know, like on the Jorge Martin thing, I don't even
know what happened there. Like for me, if that's not a

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mechanical, if that's just Rydererror, that might be some of the
dumbest shit that I've seen in 8-9 years.
Yeah, from him. From him, From him.
From even in Moto GP you always see some people crashing at turn
1 but it's always like, you know, kind of a low side trying
to get in the corner, making some contact.
Not the bowling ball man. Like this dude had the 79 split.

(46:30):
Did that in 2023. Yeah, I.
Haven't seen in a couple years but it's like at a certain place
bro. You are at the top level, man.
You know you're. Ready from a shitty.
Spot because you don't have great pace you ain't going to
make up 9 spots in the first corner all you're going to do is
put yourself and your teammate now now the entire factory team

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is out man, you know and. As far as?
Honda you guys and I keep telling you man that home track
half a second is a real thing and even though Johann Mia is
Spanish, that's a Honda track. Believe me, the guys that signed
his check were like, yo, my man,we at the Honda track, we really
like to see a Honda, Honda podium here.

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And you know, we slowly start tosign the check.
If you get it on the podium, youknow, like so it's you know,
these you get that extra incentive when you're there.
You know, I mean, dude, you got your bosses there.
Any of you could say it when your boss walks in, you look
busy at work, right? He's in front of his boss.

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He got to get busy enough laps. On on, on at that track that
they that data is pretty good tomake that bike go faster.
Yeah, they've got, they've got massive.
Data if Mark was on that bike. This if Mike Mark had stayed
with Honda. I don't even think Mark would
still be in racing because if you look at the amount of crash,
no seriously, look at the amountof crashes the Hondas have had

(47:58):
this year between Mir, Marini, Zarko, I don't even know who the
other guy is because yeah, dude,yeah, it is.
And I'm surprised he survived this long, you know?
Mark is going to crash. Just as much as those guys
because he's only got one gear. So I'm, I'm still glad that
Mark's not with that team because Mark's career would have
got cut short and we would have missed out on this incredible

(48:20):
run that he's having this incredible comeback, you know?
So yeah, I'm Mark. Would probably.
Not be at this race because he'dbe retired with like 2 broken
arms, broken collarbone, broken knees.
Like just trying to survive the Honda.
That'll be the next documentary.Yeah, dude.

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How to how to survive Honda directed the same people that
directed how to survive R Kelly.Oh shit, all done.
And then? As far as the Peckles thing, I
don't think it's a one off because during the entire season

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Peckles been in that top 345. It's not like he's, you know, I
bust his balls, you know that when he's I'm not here for to
race for 4th or 5th even though he has been.
But they should stay in the top five.
So it's not like 21st. I mean, he's had a couple of.
Struggles here and there, but keen eyes.
Very keen eyes. Notice some significant

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differences between his bike andMike Marks bike at this track,
Yeah. So they are they made.
Some changes to the bike. I don't know if they took, you
know, the rumor is they took last year's.
Bike and applied them to. This year's bike and made some
other changes in hopes of helping Peko get his confidence
back, get his mojo back. Is that going to help through

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the rest of the season? I mean, maybe, you know, maybe
at this point Mark's like, dude,I'll just finished second for
the rest of the year. I still, I got all my fat checks
If I finished second or third for the rest of the year, I'm
still going to make, you know, all my money.
I'm still going to break the record for the highest points
total. I'm still going to do all this
other stuff. I let I let some other guys win.
All right, OK, I feel bad for the other guy.

(50:08):
Let him get some checks. Look.
Look at my brand new Lambo. I got this.
You know they gave me a Lambo. Yep, let me.
Throw out Alex. Marquez to TJ and and Reese man,
cuz he, he, you know, he looked like he showed a little bit of
nerves, which I, I you wouldn't think so you think that would
have maybe started sooner, but Iexpect a little bit better
racing out of him. But is you think like overall,

(50:30):
is that a team thing? Because also Aldegear struggled
as well. What are your thoughts TJ on on
how Alex did and also you think he'll he'll keep his 2nd place
to the end of the season? Yeah, I definitely think he'll
keep it second place, but I think I think it was the part of

(50:50):
your team issue. I mean, Alligator has definitely
been showing more pace as the season was progressing.
Lately. He's kind of been struggling a
little bit, but same with Alex, he's been struggling trying to
stay up front. Couple crashes here and there.
But I think it this time it was probably more of like a team

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effort for as far as set up and you know, it's just I think Alex
has one gear as well trying to keep up.
With Mark and. His pace trying to improve, but
you know. I think.
I think. Going forward, we probably
haven't got the end of the season to keep that second
place. Right, right.

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What are your? Thoughts Ruiz you know the team
little bit they still recoveringfrom his injury with thoughts on
Alex. I mean, it could be a little bit
of. Both it could be a writer, it
could be a team. You know, Lewis knows this from
being around the the industry solong.
A lot of writers think that they're writers, they're

(51:53):
champions and they also think that they're engineers, you
know, so it could be market, youknow, Alex telling them, I need
this, I need this. And they're like, you don't need
this, you you need this. And he's like, no, I need this.
So it could be a little bit of both, you know, where a rider
thinks he knows, but he really don't know.

(52:14):
But it could be the injury that's plaguing him, you know,
still, you know, sometimes theseguys want to come back sooner
than what's expected. You know, they want to come back
and, and race and, and, and win.It could be a team that they
just kind of lost their way. So it could be numerous of
things that I've been booked. Honestly, looking at the point

(52:34):
spread and looking at everything, I believe you still
holds. It'll hold 2nd place.
You know, especially just keep the bike upright.
So you're still gaining points. You know, you long as you see it
in the points battle. So you're still gaining points,
you're still gaining data and figuring it out.
But eventually I think they'll figure out their way back.
You know, the best thing I tell them the best thing see them
doing is pretty much going back to what they had.

(52:56):
You know, because I'm pretty sure they got the data on what
they did have and just go back to that, start from that setup
and and go from there. All right, that's what's up.
I mean, before we jump into world super bike, you know, do
we want to we really, really talk about KTM as much?
I mean Yamaha, Quatraro, I mean this man, listen, man, he's a

(53:19):
foreigner, but if he was trying to get into America, he'll
figure out a way. Well, you know it Like the not
the. Yeah, they're kind of.
Struggling a little bit over. There KTM and and in Yamaha and
and and. Any thoughts TJ?
Anything you want to. Point out I.
Mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, I would say just.

(53:44):
Just the set up. Maybe it's just that.
They have been sugar lately. Fabio's like the only one that's
holding Yamaha down South. They've been struggling the
whole yeah my. It's just he's been pulling out
miracles. Not miracles, but he's been
putting in a lot of work after it.
Oh, miracles. It was just.
More of a metaphor to us, but like he's been making them,

(54:07):
keeping them relevant basically.And they're still struggling
even, you know, they did load tests, Paytmi mean like after
two rounds ago when they were doing really well and then
losing, losing change the the next week after.
So yeah, they're still still trying to find their way.

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So I think they're in a good spot.
I throw KTM over Yamaha, but I think Yamaha still has a lot of
work to do. Right, anything that you want to
add, Reese, I mean, you know, I,I we did say miracle, but like
TJ alluded to more they you knowit, it should be hope, right,
because quarter hour was saying,look, this is what I can do with

(54:52):
what I have. So give me something that can
that I can really be more consistent, you know a.
Great man once told me. Once you lose hope, you gain
faith, but at this point in time, I ain't got no damn faith
shit. That's gone.
Fuck, I mean, what what DJ said.I mean it's kind of like being

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modest, but I mean he's pulling out.
That's that's Tudini man, pulling out a miracle out of
that sometimes to keep that Yamaout there to me, you know.
So I mean, hopefully they figured this out and figured
that V4 out that they they got, you know, 'cause you know, they
said it was. I mean, of course it's a new

(55:38):
prototype is new. So they got to figure everything
out and get it running. They still got bugs and
scenarios that work out, you know, so I hope they do figure
out figure that out. You know, KTMI don't know what
the fuck going on over there. I think they just, they just
broke, you know, something, something going on.

(55:59):
Maybe they broke the bikes are broke.
I don't know, man. It's just like Jesus Christ,
man, give, give, give some faithin this.
It's it's long gone, but. I don't know.
I mean, hopefully. They can figure it out.
I mean, at some point in time they look great and sometimes
they look spotty and sometimes they're just like non existence.
I mean, they'll crash out. Bassini's gone, you know this,

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that I mean, I I just don't knowwhat's going on over there.
It's either the setup is wrong, tires is wrong for them,
suspension, it's just chassis. I don't know, it's something.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's tough. And they got a whole bunch of
new money. I mean, I, I don't know, I think
they may have just done enough to kind of say we're not going
to be worried the first year. But you know, they're smarter

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people than us that that are that are invested in these guys.
So it can't it can't look too good for KTM if it can't be a
little bit more consistent, consistent.
Louis, anything you want to add before we move over to world
super bike and and talk about what top rock and Bulaga is
doing and your boy Sam lows? No, no, no, I mean the.
Guys pretty much said everything.

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The only thing that I have to add to that is I've said that
some of the tracks that are coming up are not going to be
KTM friendly and some of the tracks are not going to be
Yamaha friendly. I mean, the two bikes that seem
to be the most dialed in, the Ducati and the Prelia, I mean,
you could kind of see that in the performances.
You would have seen it better ifMartine didn't take out the
entire team. But a Prelia bike is the only

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bike that consistently can compete with the Ducati at this
point. All the other bikes have flashes
of brilliance and I think still the Honda is even though people
shit on. It I think the Honda.
Is a little bit further along than the Yamaha because the
Honda's been on AV motor for a long time.
So they're just developing from a point where they're already at

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by, by Yamaha coming out with AV, they're kind of throwing up
the signal that, you know, we understand that this is what we
need to do. But now they also have a lot of
work to do because they now they're going to have to fix
this, you know, that now they'regoing to have to address what it
takes to have AV motor, what chassis changes they have to do
what this they have to do with that.

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They have to do. So there's, there's a, a, a long
steep learning curve, I think coming up for Yamaha, whereas
Honda's got that step up. And then unfortunately, KTM, I
don't know exactly what to blameit on.
I in a way, I kind of if, if, ifVinales was healthy and they

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were still having struggles, then I would say that it's the
bike. But I think again, Vinales was
the Canaveral in the coal mine for them.
He was the one that was warning on what to do, what not to do.
And when he got hurt, they had asetup and it worked a little
bit. And he's still recovering.
And I think until he recovers they're going to still be
struggling to find that setup because realistically Vinales is
the best rider that KTM has right now.

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Man, I never thought I'd be hearing.
Those words at the end of the season.
Trust you, man. We, we.
We. We were saying off with their
heads at the beginning of the season, yeah.
But he's, you know. I knew, I knew, I knew Bastanini
wasn't going to be doing all that much on the bike because he
was on a factory Ducati and yeah, he was hurting everything

(59:15):
else, but he should have really never gotten that factory seat
to begin with, in my opinion. Oh, come on.
I think there was. There was, yeah.
We do another show on that wholeepisode.
Episode or. Not.
But. And then and Bender, Bender has

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been on KTM forever and he's just a, a middling rider.
He's never going to, he's never going to be a champion.
Man, I hate to say it. I'll put it out there right now.
You'll never see Bender's name at the top of that championship
trophy ever, especially if he stays with KTM.
If he stays with KTM, this is he's reached his apex of what he
can do with KTM, right? He should have left when Zarko.

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Left. Dude, real talk.
Right there, yeah, yeah. Real talk right there.
He should have pulled the. He should have pulled the RIP
cord on that parachute because that plane was going down.
Zarko knew it. And Brenda was like, no, they
taking care of me and getting paid.
Yeah, because, because. Like a few years ago he had a
better chance of getting a factory seat or getting on a
Ducati bike if he was, you know.But KTM locked them up with that

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big deal, three-year, 4 year, whatever deal they got them.
So yeah, they definitely locked them.
Up, you know, I mean. Locked them up back there in the
back. We still ain't learning, but I'm
earning, right? Let's let's.
Let's talk about. World super bike.
I mean, you know, it's you know,I'll say this, I'm glad to see

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Bulaga fight back and and when it was able to at least, you
know, pull 2 away from from top rock because when you're
fighting for a championship and and the guy just keeps stepping
on you, keep stepping on you round after round, sometimes you
might just say second start don't look good.
What are you? What are your thoughts, TJ on on

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on the the races over there? Aragon, Aragon actually like
Aragon. That's a nice track.
So you can really get on the gas.
There's nice back straight there, didn't really see all the
races, but that's going to go back in and check, you know, all
the detail and see all all around his special team.

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Oh yeah, I. See, I see that top, top rack,
you know, won the first race, itlooks like, and it's good to see
that, you know, when the second race and third race is sweet to
feel so like he usually does. So it does see that Bullock has
still got the fight in him. I mean, like I said, racing for
a championship, like he's still got to go, go all out at the end
of the day until it's the last race, the the last moment,

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whatever. So he's going to do all he can
to try his best. So I don't know, I don't know
how many rounds are left. But you know, that kind of ride
and do you think that gives moreconfidence to to Bulaga because,
you know, it's just kind of like, I mean, he only gained 3
points when it's all when it's all said and done.

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But does that give that kind of motivation to be like, all
right, man, I can probably beat this guy at the rest of till the
rest of the season. I don't know if it's enough to
win, but at least it you know, it could be a thorn.
TJ Yeah, I. Mean I'm looking.
At it now he's only. Down, down on.

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Like 40 some points. So like say, I mean top right
rarely has ADNF, but you got to think what's what can be
possible. I mean, some people crash and
still answer the race to to anticipate a red flag, to try to
fix their bikes, to hope for a red flag.
So you got to just hope for the best.

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They still not too far away. I don't know how many races are
left, but on a race weekend theyhave a couple of races.
So yeah, I. I agree.
Anything what are your thoughts on on what the BMW is doing over
there RE so it with top rock andyou know what, what Bulaga is
doing because like I mentioned the TJI mean like he like I

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mean, you know, obviously Bulaga's won before, but you
know, this one. It's like a good basketball game
when y'all, y'all are both playing hard and anybody could
win and and usually it's top rock getting the better side of
you, But you know, now you you you pull something out.
So I mean, it's it's unfortunatefor next season because top rock
is leaving, but like, you know, Beluga's confidence got to be

(01:03:46):
really high after these past these past rounds.
I mean. Yeah, I mean his, his, his.
His confidence goes high. I mean, you do you do roll your
confidence in going into the next round or the next race, you
do roll that in. So that does have a play a
factor into it. I mean, because when you win, I
mean, you're only riding that high horse.
I mean, but at the end of the day, I mean, it's it's kind of

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sad. It's I mean, I always say this.
It's not that you're going against BMW, you're going
against top rat. You're not going against the
bike. I mean, you know, it's the the
BMW is a great bike. It's a it's a hell of a bike.
I mean, but as far as certain things, it's the actual rider
because you put top caliber guyson the bike before and where

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were they at? So you put top rack on it, he
destroys. You put top rack on the Yamaha,
he destroyed. You put him on anything else,
he's going to destroy. It's just who he is, you know.
So I mean Bullerger going against top rack and at this
point in time, I don't think there's enough rounds left.
I mean, unless you have ADNF with two rounds.

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So it says 100 points plus the Sprint races.
No, 200 points because it's 25. Yeah, so.
You can still win. But you you're hoping for Top
Rank to DNF, and if he doesn't DNF mean you're kind of up
shit's Creek without a paddle, right?

(01:05:15):
Do you? Agree that you know, you know,
it seems like Bulgar Rd. like Top Rock this weekend and like
you pretty much, you know, had to put the bike in all the right
places to get in front of Top Rock.
He did. He had to put.
It in the right place the right time.
I mean, like like Lewis said, I mean certain tracks are are, you
know, gear for that brand. It's just the way it's the way

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it is it this track may work well for Ducati.
This track may work well for a Honda, may work well for Yamaha
versus BMW. You know, Aragon may be great
for Ducati. You know, it just may be the way
it's designed, the way it's set up, but Ducati is going to work
well on it. And then, you know, they got the
next year's bike coming finally,the V4R, you know, so that might

(01:05:55):
be work well for it, Right, Right.
Lewis Mann, let's talk about thecrashes.
Let's talk about, you know, tough rock and, and Bouliger
'cause, you know, Alvarez threw away some, some, some points as
well and some opportunities. You know, we, we, and even in
Noni, we're slowing down the pack as well.

(01:06:18):
To, to, to kind of he, he's beenkind of riding like that when he
can to beat some guys so they can't find a way around them.
But you know, how how did he like watching the race and
seeing what Bulaga, how Bulaga was able to, you know, kind of,
you know, give top rack a littlebit of his own medicine?
Well, are you trying to say thatthere's?
Ducati guys that intentionally slow down other riders to try to

(01:06:40):
win races. Is that what I'm?
Hearing, I think that's. I think.
I think that's what I heard. I'm fortunate that this
chocolate. Chip cookies.
You're always catching all. Right, you own a Ducati.
Is that in the owner's manual? How to win on a Ducati?

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I actually enjoy watching any race at Aragon.
I think Aragon is one of the greatest tracks that is out
there. It's a beautiful track, the
layout is great, everything. Boonlaga is going to fight to
the end regardless. The only thing that I'm worried
about is I'm worried about the state of World Super Bike going
forward. And I don't know if you guys saw

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this, but there was an interviewwith top rack.
And now that he's leaving World Super Bike, I think he's a
little being a little bit more open in his interview is about
certain things about World SuperBike that maybe in the past he
wasn't so open about. Because when you're when you're
working somewhere, you don't want to shit on the place you
work on, But when you got a new job, it's like, yo, that place

(01:07:45):
sucks. And during the interview, they
asked him because the turn out at Aragon was weak.
They had a really bad turn out. And if you think about it, when
Moto GP goes to Aragon, they have an incredible turn out and.
One of the things. That they asked him is, you
know, what do you see as the future world super bike?

(01:08:08):
And he said one, we're a World Championship series and we only
have 1212 rounds. He's like, that's unacceptable.
You know, you, we need to have at least 18 to 20 rounds if
we're going to be considered a true world super Bike
Championship. And we need and we need to go to
other countries. And several times during an

(01:08:30):
interview, he specifically said,I don't understand why we don't
go to the United States. Why isn't the world?
Super bike championship going tothe United States.
So and then the other thing thatwas kind of mentioned is, you
know what, what does he see about the competition level?
And pretty much he says, you know, the competition level is

(01:08:52):
very high, but I think next yearis there's going to be one guy
that's going to win it. So it's almost like he knows
when he leaves, Buliga is going to wipe the floor with everybody
because it's the bullet. It's the Buliga tamp rack show
now. And next year there's no top
rack. So who's going to stop Buliga?
Sam Lowe's only. Only Buliga and Gravity are the

(01:09:14):
only two people that can can beat Buliga.
Yeah. I mean, look.
Eka Eka Eka might be able to to do something, but we don't.
We'll see how he gets on on a Ducati, how quickly he get up to
speed, but I think he has a talent to to, you know, to give
it to to at least be competitive.

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But they're going to be on the same bike and have the same data
and they both going to be working out that V4.
So that's going to be, you know,the 1st 6 to 8 rounds anyway.
Yeah, I don't see BMW. Being back at the front next
year without top RAT because youknow, the bike as good as it is
as a street bike. I mean, it's the twenty 20s
Gixxer. Everybody wants to buy it.

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As a track bike. There's not a lot of people that
are competitive on it. There's not a lot of people at
the very pointy end of the swordon that bike.
The Yamaha still Yamaha. Yeah, the Yamaha is still the
Yamaha. I mean, it's going to be the R1
for the 17th year. And then what do you got?

(01:10:17):
You got the Bimoda, the the Frankenstein of bikes.
You got the you got the Kawasaki.
That's not going to get any new parts.
Hondas look good. But the CVR has been.
The CVI mean it's all right thatgive the CVR a little bit, they
change it a little bit, but theyneed a new plant, they need a
new motor, they need a new setuplike they need a new bike.

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And I don't, I don't see, yeah, you know, Honda coming to the
market with a new super bike anytime soon, at least not for
the next 2-3 years. So whereas Ducati's developing.
A new bike every two years or three years.
They're coming out with a new R model they can homologate to
keep pushing that envelope forward.
Everybody else is sitting on their hands, man, right?

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So you know. Before we get out of here, we're
a little bit over over our time as is and, and, and I'll put
this out to all you guys just based on what Lewis has said
about top rack in his conversation in World Super
Bike. You know, and we, we, we've
talked about this from the beginning of the season with
Motor America and to finish Motor America with
record-breaking crowds in Jersey.
And, and it shows like, you know, what what people are doing

(01:11:26):
and investing to to grow the sport in Motor America is, is
that more on the organization side of things to kind of like,
let's figure out Motor World Super Bike and get the crowd,
because that is a downside looking.
They don't really show the stadiums that much or you know
any like that when you look at World Super bike, but it is
discouraging to not see a lot ofpeople at at a world event like

(01:11:48):
that if you actually. Notice what they do in World
Super Bike. When they give you a ticket,
they actually put you in a section where the camera is
going to hit. They try to pan everybody into
one section, so when you look atthe actual back section, it's
completely empty. Yeah.
What are your thoughts TJ on? On is it is it is it?
Donna needs to, you know, like, don't treat it like a stepchild

(01:12:14):
and and and and, you know, invest into this thing.
Yeah, I mean like. I.
Mean they definitely need. To go to USI mean you got all
this plan that we do with Moto GP and they're taking over like
the F1 style and like that like raw super bike shouldn't be
neglected. They definitely need more
rounds. Never got to promote some yeah

(01:12:37):
stuff. Promote some way, you know,
definitely like to. See them come to.
The US travel more definitely, at least more rounds if they
don't come to the US somehow gotto be televised a little better
because just watching the races a little harder than Moto GP or
even Moto American. So it's just just a little.

(01:13:02):
Someone needs to fix the technology and then update some
stuff, maybe some updates I agree with.
You there? I know they're.
Definitely doing. They've gotten a lot better in
Moto GP. Last year was a little bit
quirky. This year was way better.
Is the best year for, for watching online and stuff like
that. And I agree with you.
I, I think like, you know, it, it, it's, I don't want to say
it's like doing your taxes and you're looking for forms, but

(01:13:24):
like if you missed the race weekand you're trying to find the
race, you kind of have to know where you're going to get there
exactly. And I definitely kind of see
them being treated like a littlestepchild.
But I feel like, I mean, like Lewis said, kind of worried for
them next year because the top rock is, you know, the main guy
right now. Everyone's going to go and watch

(01:13:46):
Moto GP now to see what he's doing over there and kind of not
really falling where a super bike.
So they need to find some way going into this next series next
year to give. Give away like like.
A free weekend or something likeevery weekend is for free
something or, or something, you know?

(01:14:07):
Yeah, no, I, I, I agree with. You I mean, we're, we're fans of
the sports, so we're not going to stop watching TJ.
We're going to. We're going to find our way you.
Know what I'm saying but. I, I, I feel you numbers guys,
that guy, you know, you, you brought it up, you said it.
If you're saying that we should be worried because you know that
it sounds like they need a big injection of of cash and

(01:14:30):
something I mean they. Need that.
I don't know if it's. An injection of cash.
I don't know if they're circlingthe wagons to try to profit as
much as they can from what they already have, so that they're
keeping more of the money instead of reinvesting it in the
right way. There's certain things, you
know, if you look at the Moto GPevents and you look at the World

(01:14:51):
Super Bike events, for me, the broadcast quality should be the
same. I agree.
But it's not the same. You know, in Moto GP you get a
lot more helicopter shots. You don't see that many
helicopter shots in World Super Bike.
And the reason for that? 5 gallons man 5.
Gallons of the diesel fuel. Oh no, the reason for that is

(01:15:13):
they. Don't have a helicopter like at
many rounds, they don't have a helicopter and you're a top
level sport. Get a fucking gloom, man.
Buy a DJI. You could, you don't have to buy
a whole helicopter, but you got to do something, man.
You got to bring that quality up.
And then again you need, I understand there's a cost
involved in shipping everything to the Americas to to to the to

(01:15:34):
the Western Hemisphere, but schedule it the way that Moto GP
does. Do a round in South America and
do a round in North America and the round in North America.
Combine it with possibly some Moto America racing as well to
benefit both series to give the American class here.
You know, that's what we used todo when they used to go to
Laguna Seca, the support series.They would have super bikes,

(01:15:58):
they would have American super bikes racing at Laguna Seca
alongside either Moto GP or World Super Bike.
And then some of our American riders could even wild card in
the Super Bike race that weekend.
You know, this is this is how you go to sport.
You got to grow interest from within the country.
If they go to Asia or they go tosome other Asian market, you

(01:16:21):
know, have some of the riders there in World Super Bike
compete with them. Obviously you can't do that with
Moto GP because if I put a hooked up R1 next to a Ducati
Moto GP bike that she's going toget the doors blown off of it.
But in world super bike, you cantechnically build a super bike
attack has a super bike attack in a race in world super bike on
a super bike. Bring world super bike here.

(01:16:43):
Have guys from here be able to wild card in that event, it'll
draw more interest. Have Motor America be part of
the event, it'll draw more interest.
It'll help both series role and you got to bring World Super
bike back to this hemisphere, man, you can't because right now
what it's starting to look like to me is the European Motor
America. They race in Europe and they.

(01:17:04):
Do one or two rounds in some other places, but they're mainly
a European racing. So then don't call it the world
super bike. Man, at that point it's the
European super bike. Get rid of BSB and just make.
It the European super bike because you're killing the
sport, man And and I as a fan that loves super bike, I
actually love super bike racing,man.
I like to know that these things, even though they're not

(01:17:26):
anything like you get on the showroom floor, they're built
off a showroom platform. They're built off something I
could buy and obtain myself. It won't be the same, but at
least I own something similar towhat that guy that's that I'm a
fan of can ride. I can never own a Ducati Moto GP
bike. I can never own a Honda Moto GB
bike, but I can't own a CBR1000.I can't own a Ducati V4R.

(01:17:50):
You. Know and again these.
Are these are things that are atthe manufacturer level and at
the Dorner Racing level that they have to see that yes, if
you make a great bike and that bike wins, that technically that
bike sells and that bike gives you the opportunity because it
sells to reinvest in developing better bikes.

(01:18:11):
And this is what Ducati's been doing and that's why they're so
dominant and I can't take it away from them.
A lot of people like to complainabout the Ducati Cup that can't
complain from the dudes are by building bikes, making money,
taking that money, building morebikes.
So as a numbers. Guy fucking count some numbers,
people. That's right, that's right.

(01:18:34):
And on that note, we will get. Out of here Moto GP again is
this weekend Indonesia looking forward to it.
I do like the back to backgrounds because that means I
get to watch racing. We every you know, 2 weekends in
a row, so that's what's up. I want to thank TJ Reese from
attack the Yamaha performance Reese, the numbers guy coming
on. My name is Rex 45.

(01:18:55):
It's to be forever. Cool podcast.
Peace peace.