MotoGP Malaysia 2025 Round 20 Recap in S5 Ep 37

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You're listening to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
My name is Rex 45 and it's Monday night and we got to talk
about some motorcycle racing, some Moto GPA, little bit of
world super bike and all the insurance and outs of that.
Before we dive into the previousround in Malaysia, let's bring
the guys in and introduce them one at a time.

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TJ, man, welcome to the show. How you doing tonight man?
Hanging in there, got my hoodie on.
The weather's getting cold up here, like as usual.
Our Patriots are 6 and 2, so we're winning, you know, And
Moto GPS had a good weekend, butyou know, race is coming to an

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end soon. But just enjoying what I can.
Yeah, I think I got to make fun of the Patriots a little bit
more, man, because it seems likethe more I keep talking about
them and they they keep winning.I can't believe they're six and
two and I, I suspect a lot, a lot of the other teams believe
it's two either. So who do you know?
I guess you guys must be excitedup north.

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Oh yeah, we're inside. I mean, it's the system, right?
That's how we, you know, in New England we, we root for just
basically one team, you know, other states got different teams
to choose from. So we kind of die hard.
We got a system we go by so. You know you're being, you know,
you know, you're being kind whenyou say New England.
Cause you know, people in Bostonjust, we just see, we, we say

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Boston teams, they don't really say younger teams.
Yeah, yeah, kind. Of Boston on Mass, they don't
want to say. New England, I was, I was being
a little generous, but yeah, Boston, I think we we only even
from Boston. So no, no doubt, no doubt.
Well, let's keep it rolling, man.
We got a pretty good show planned for tonight.
Very excited for tonight. Let's bring Reese in the

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building, man. What's going on, man?
Welcome back to the States, you know, did you, did you learn a
lot? Oh, yeah, man, we did.
We learned a lot. I learned a lot.
It was great to be over there, you know?
Great to be home, man. That's all you could say.
I don't know about the Patriots.I don't know about them
Patriots, man. I'll stay with my eagles over
there. You know, even I live in
Florida. I'll stay with my Eagles.

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All right well, listen man, you know y'all, y'all are getting
them shipped so I mean you know y'all, y'all, y'all invited to
the party now, so let's see how long you can stay but you're.
Fighting to the party, we fighting all y'all to the party
man, we fighting all y'all. Welcome to our party.
Well, you know, hey, listen, as long as it's a good party.
But we will find out, right? Exactly, man, Exactly.

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No doubt. Lewis, man, the real Louis
Ortega, man, What's going on? Man, How are things?
Good, good. What's going on?
How was your weekend? Oh man, my weekend was a pretty
good, I have to say. I'm my daughter had a tennis
tournament this weekend. So it was, it was exciting to
see her play and see her growth and stuff like that.
And you know, to see the competition at that age.

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So I can't complain, man. But how about yourself, man?
Did you get a chance to just relax and and drink some
lemonade? No, no, I don't.
Even when I'm not working, like I've got so many other things
going on. It's just hard to like sit down,
relax and just have like that time off.
I try to have time off, but it'sjust hard to idle hands.

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I, you know, I can't be in my house and not be like, oh, you
know what? This weekend I think I'm going
to fix this. So let me take a run at Home
Depot. Let me go to Lowe's.
Let me you know, I was telling myself I should not leave the
house because every time I leavethe house it cost me money.
Got you. I feel listen, I feel you.
Sometimes I feel like I just move the stuff around in the
garage sometimes, man. But you know, I'm I'm excited to

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talk about motorcycle racing this week tonight and this week
because it's it's been a crazy year so far.
I welcome everyone. But before we go, let's talk a
little bit about, you know, the Moto 3 riders that got hurt,
Rhoda and Dettweiler. You know, I thought we were
going to get away with this season with nothing too crazy.
So far. It seems like they're they're

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stable. Well, they're alive and stable,
which is great. You know, we start with TJ.
What are your thoughts on on I don't know if you had a chance
to see the accident. What are your thoughts on it?
And and you know, like I said, you know, me guys have been
breaking bones and getting scratched up here and there, but
it's nothing as serious as this where they've had to get Med
lifted in Moto GP and all other classes.

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I'm sure around the world, you know, people get hurt in, in
motorcycle racing and stuff likethat.
What? What are your thoughts DJ?
Yeah, condolences to the friendsand family, to those two guys.
I mean, they're, they're young, young guys, you know, and it's
just unfortunate to have something like that happen.

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You know, it's very unexpected and it's very serious to get
airlifted from from the track. You know, it's also really good
to have that that safety behind you, you know, like just ready
and available. Really hope they're OK.
I mean, I heard that one of themis in stable but kind of
critical condition. So I haven't heard really much

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of the other one. I did not see what happened.
I mean, granted, from where we are, we actually could have
watched it live because it's actually during the hours of,
you know, being up, but being. Up.
Come on man. Yeah, yeah, you know, but, you
know, I, I missed it. And when I they cut it, they cut
it off in the Moto GP. So, but I really hope they're
OK. And it is hard for all the other

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riders to like, you know, go back out there and do that
thing. So hats out to all those guys
who still performed and put in, put in the race.
After seeing what happened, I think what is about an hour and
a half delay or something like that.
So yeah, yeah. But what I can tell is something
like something crazy and again, and I was catching up in in, you

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know, after the fact because I didn't watch it right away.
You know, I took a nap and, and,and kind of missed it, which is
crazy. You know, let's, let's, we'll
jump to Reece. Reece, what are your thoughts?
I mean, you know, you, you, thisis what you do full time and
stuff like that. Normally we don't see these
horrific incidents. You know, how, how, how does the

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team deal with stuff like that? I mean, nobody wants their
rider, you know, their family member, they get hurt.
I mean, we're all like a big family there.
So nobody wants that. You know, we all want to at the
end of the day, you know, break bread at the end of the day, go
to dinner and, you know, live the fight on to another day.
I mean, so it's kind of heartbreaking.
You know, prayers go out to thatfamily and to both those

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families. But you know, you know, I, I
wish them all well and hopefully, you know, a good
speedy recovery. I know it's going to be a long
road of recovery for them. And then, like you said, they
were young kids. You know, that's, that's make it
even worse if they're young, Butbeing young, we all know that,
you know, you can kind of heal quicker than that's old dogs.

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So, you know, us bouncing like that, we we might not get back
up, but you know, but at the endof the day, you know, us being
as a team, you know, we see our riders go down and we, we kind
of hold if it's a kind of like abad wreck, we kind of hold our
breath until you see them kind of bounce back up and give that

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thumbs up saying we're OK. And, you know, being airlifted
is nobody wants to be airlifted out of a out of the, the racing
because you see that airlift come out and then, you know,
it's something serious and I'm critical.
Now we're all rushed to the hospital to make sure that
person is OK. So.
Right, right. No, no doubt there, man.
It's it it's it's I think the good part of this our sport is

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that, you know, the level of a medical kit that's available to
us trackside is is is the best it's been, I think since folks
have been racing motorcycles or or anything else.
You know, Louis, you know, what are your thoughts on on the
incident? And also, you know, how how you

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know, how do you think riders pull themselves together back,
pull themselves together to go back out there and compete,
knowing this is in the back of their mind?
Because, you know, we could be as Superman as we would like to
be. It's hard to sometimes to just
shut that off, that section off for a period of time and go out
there and give it everything yougot.
Well, first I want to give my well wishes to both riders.

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I want to, you know, hopefully they'll have a speedy recovery,
get out of the hospital, get back to their families.
Like Reece said, you know, thereis a benefit to being young in
this sport. You tend to bounce back from
serious injury a little bit better than somebody.
I mean, somebody our age would bounce back.
With that said, I mean, I hate that it happened in Malaysia

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because we already have some really bad memories as racing
fans of Malaysia. Malaysia is not a beloved track
in the in the minds of a lot of people that, you know, know, the
history of that track and what it took from us as racing, as a
racing community. You know, I still relive that
particular day all the time because it's it's I'm one of

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those guys that likes to watch the racing live.
So I either stay up late or wakeup early to watch it and to
watch this live and to have watch what happened with
Smocelli live it, you know, it, it was kind of like a cool
reminder of how beautiful our sport is, but how tragically
beautiful it is. You know, it's one of the things
that makes a sport great is every time you put your helmet
on, you really living life to the fullest.

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But you might go, you know, it'sliving life to the fullest,
comes with a cost sometimes. So I hope both these riders get
better soon, bounce back. I think that the way Moto GP
handled it overall was understandable because in this
situation, I mean, I hate to saythe show has to go on.
You've got 190 something, 1000 people there.

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You've got TV stations waiting for you to go live.
You know, it's, it's a cool partof the sport, but you have to
keep going. You have to, you know, move
things around. But the show has to go on.
From what I understand and what some of the riders are saying in
GP is that they got very little information about the riders
throughout the course of the daybecause they didn't want to
influence anything or make riders decide not to ride or

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maybe protest or, you know, whensomething tragic happens, there
are times when they just shut itdown.
And for whatever reason, I guessthat's why Moto GP didn't share
with the Moto GP guys and the show went on.
But you could tell throughout the day, Moto 2 and Moto GP,
like it wasn't the same celebratory, high energy kind of
thing going on. There was like a little bit of a

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somber undertone because again, I mean, these are young guys,
these, you know, these, these are not guys you expect to see
getting airlifted away. I just hope that they they both
come out of this OK And and I want to see them keep riding,
you know, especially, you know, two young guys, one guy that was

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just crown champion. What is it?
A week, A week ago? Two weeks ago?
Yeah, yeah, I think I forget which round I got to check.
I don't. I think it was Japan.
I. Japan, so like 2 weeks ago or
three weeks ago. Yeah.
But again, this just crown champion and, you know, just
goes to show you how quickly things can turn on a dime.
And you have to take advantage of every moment you have.

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I always tell people every everyday that I go out, you know, I
always make sure I, you know, say hi, kiss the family and
always keep my loved ones. And my thought because you never
know, the next time you walk outthat door might be the last time
you walk out that door. Yeah, so.
Yeah. So I just hope everybody keeps
these guys and their thoughts and their prayers and I think
we're going to see them back. You know, these these these two

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you guys are are built like nails.
Yeah, I mean, you kind of have to be to be a motorcycle racer.
You might not be 1 when you start, but by the time they
finish. By nails, or you're held
together by nails and screws andbolts and plates.
I got one, just one, so hopefully you know, I won't get

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any more, but you never know. But you know, it is motorcycle
racing and and we got to move on.
As you say, the show must go on.We'll we'll put Reese on the hot
table. So guys, if you have any
questions for him about his travels, see.
Dunlap sucks to see. Go ahead, start, go hot.
Go hot in the paint right now. There you go, Reese.

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What feedback do you have to give us folks here in America on
how what racing is like and can you now go back to the paddock
in the US? I could say racing over there is
it is tough, man. Everyone thinks it's very easy.
And it's like you see all the comments and you know, we don't

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have, we don't have riders that can compete and you know,
there's nobody that can compete.I mean, those guys are, you
know, 10,000 of seconds off. It's like it's, it's crazy speed
and craziness. I mean, it's, it's absolutely
insane on those the, the brake, the how much brake pressure

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those guys are actually using. It's actually crazy on what
they're doing, I mean. They're, when you say crazy in
the sense of a little pressure or a lot of pressure.
A lot of pressure, man. It's a lot.
It's, it's, it's down to the, you know, one thousandth of a
second. I mean, this, if you would look
at the top ten guys, they're allrelatively right there and

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they're like, how the hell are they so far back?
But it's just like it's it's insane that that, that, that
what they can do over there. And we're not.
I mean, Bobby was picking up pace on us on her rez.
I mean, he did very well on her rez and he was like, oh, he
didn't do well. But if you look at the, if you

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look at the the speeds and the times, we were right there, OK.
So what you're saying, what you're saying to Lewis is Alex
Slows is really fast. Yeah, you got to say, man, those
guys are fast. I'm not saying.

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He's not fast. I'm just saying you got to
finish a race, the winner race, and those brothers tend to
finish a lot of races in the crash truck.
So they do, I mean, but they're literally on.
They're literally on the edge every lap.
Like they're on the edge every lap, every corner.
And they're using the front, their front brakes more than

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everything, really. Yeah.
I mean look at top rag. Top rag always get back from
wheel up. I mean the back wheel up.
Yo, I think I've seen every guy with their back wheel up, every
guy with their back wheel up. I'm like Jesus Christ.
And, and So what does that mean?Like the team, because I like we
have mentioned before you went over, you know, last year Gillum

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got to go, but it was just him, the whole team came over.
Maybe not not all at once. Like, you know, on the, when
it's all said and done, like, you know, how, how, how does a
team come together and, and, andsay, hey, what did we just
witness and how do we incorporate it into what we're
trying to do here in the US? Or is it something that's not

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easy to to bring over? I mean, you got to realize
they're the biggest factor. And as Lou will tell you, the
biggest factor is the the tires.The tires is the biggest factor.
They got so much grip. I mean, there's so much grip on
the Pirellis. There's so much feeling, so much
feedback with the Pirellis. A lot of guys love them.

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I mean, I, I didn't hear anything really negative on the
Pirellis at all. So that is the biggest factor of
racing is the tires. You know, with Dunlops here we
have, I mean we don't have what they have.
So that's, and then the tracks are kind of little bit similar,
but not too far and they have a lot more run off, you know, a

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lot different straightaways and it's a little bit they're,
they're actually a little bit wider.
So, so you're they're better ourtracks.
Our. Tracks, our tracks suck.
Their tracks suck. Like the one thing that I see,
and maybe you can now that you've been to these tracks,
cause I've seen a couple of the tracks overseas, is the tracks

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overseas tend to focus heavily on the crash areas and putting
Kitty litter or rocks or something else that slows the
bike and slows the rider down when they crash in those high
speed zones. Whereas here, if you look at a
lot of the tracks that we race in the US, we have a lot of
grass runoff. Right.
And we've talked about it, and we talked about it a little bit

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last week. Grass runoff tends to destroy
bikes versus gravel, and Kitty litter tends to slow the bikes
down more often than not, so thebikes don't flip ridiculously.
Whereas here in the US, our bikes seem to be practicing for
like Cirque du Soleil every weekend.
Right. I mean, once you as you know,

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Louis, I mean once that that foot peg a bar in anything, once
they're grabbing that that dirt,it's over.
It's going to it's going to headover in.
But if you notice in the Kitty litter, it comes in and it
actually slows it down and just small tilt over unless you know,
unless they're already sliding in into the Kitty litter and
then it gets caught. Now it's going over.

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So do you think the tracks in Europe overall are safer than
what we have here in the US whenyou compare it track to track?
I mean, obviously you're in someof the best tracks.
You're not on the on the back lot tracks where most of these
guys are training, but on the bigger tracks.
If you had to compare the 2 tracks you went to minus CODA,
which for me is the only world class track we have in the US

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right now, how would you comparethat to like a Rd.
Atlanta or a VIR or a New Jersey?
Death. So OK, so we got to feel good at
Loudon then, huh? Loudon's death doubled down.

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That is it not gold. I'm going to sit here.
I'll watch you guys. Y'all go ahead.
I'm going to sit on this. I'm going to sit this one out.
And how about the crowds? Because that's one of the things
that I've always noticed is the European crowds are bigger, more
engaged. Like how was the crowd?
Because one of the things that we've noticed is World Tour Bike
has a much lower attendance thanMoto GC, right?

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But the Moto. America how do you compare the
crowds? You know, it's funny and they
were talking about it because I didn't like I said, I didn't get
to ethereal, but the crowds thatthey have are the same kind of
crowds that we almost have like as in Rd.
America, Laguna, like Rd. Atlanta, you know, for what the

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facility can hold, you're almostin that same realm.
Got you. So you think it's more of the
facility that that's kind of hampering the crowd situation
and if they were at least, you know, more important EP tracks?
No, I mean, but you got to thinkabout it.
Those guys over there, they don't have what we have here in
America. But we don't.

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We have football, baseball, basketball.
We have all types of sports. Their big thing is Motorsports.
So when Motorsports comes out, they're like, we're gonna go
watch. This is like their big hurrah,
right? Right.
So that's where they're coming now they're they're, they're
born and bred that from from birth.
So yeah, I got a question for you.

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So, yeah, knowing that attack Yamaha and Moto America has
been, you know, at the top for awhile and you know, you have the
championships the way, but knowing you're knowing you're at
the top and Bobby going over over there and and you know,
it's not like it's a reality check.
He kind of knew where he was going to stand.
But actually seeing the competition, like what can you

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take from there to like bring back to that to try to improve
even though you guys are still top level?
I mean, you can improve on certain things you can prove on
it, like Bobby, he can improve on writing skills, But like it
was nice when you know, you're seeing top right come into the
into your garage and telling Bobby, Hey, come follow me, you
know, and getting that kind of experience, you know, following

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Lockatelli and Johnny Ray, you know, seeing different brake
markers, seeing how much brake pressure, how hard you can get
on the brakes and different kindof riding styles and how
aggressive those guys can be. You can take that kind of
attributes that they have and bring it back to the States.
And I mean, if you actually notice, if you go back when did

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Cam, like when Cam was with Yamaha to when he went to Moto
2, then when he came back, you can actually notice Cam now rise
with his elbows out and he he never rolled his elbows out.
Now he rides with the elbows outa lot more and poking them out
and he's a little bit more aggressive getting in there, but

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he's still kind of that nice guy, but he's a little bit more
aggressive now. So you can bring that attributes
back and kind of take that. Right.
And, and, and do you think 2 rounds is enough?
I mean, it, it, you know, kind of thing or you do you have to
take what you get kind of thing.But do you think it'd be it
would have been nice to have more rounds?

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Yes and no. It's a lot of work, man.
It's a It's a hell of a lot of work trying to did you?
Drive the lorry, I said. Did you drive the lorry?
Nah, it's a lot of work from literally packing, from packing
the the crates from leaving Jersey and then like staying up.

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I think we were packing on Sunday night.
I think we packed till like 9:00, race was over till like
what, 5-3? We were done.
We didn't get out of there till like 930 on Jersey on a Sunday
and then they still had to finish up on Monday before the
crates left two guys. So yeah, no, we're good.

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Take two, take 2. OK.
That's what's up. That's up before we move into
Moto GP. Any other questions for for
Reece before we move on guys? I'll probably think of something
by the end of the show. Oh no, Lewis he will because you
know him and his track questionsand one say the tracks fuck

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here, yes, they do. Compared to that Lewis they do
man are their tracks are better.All sets It's.
All about the measurements. It's it's all about the, the
definitely. So let's move into Moto GP.
The you know, Bagnaya won the Sprint, Alex Marquez won the,
the main race. What you guys think of of of

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that? I have my opinions.
I guess I'll share after the fact.
I don't want I don't want to taint you guys thoughts by by
throwing them out up front, but you know, you know that I don't
want to say they're blasts from the past, right, But it seems
like it because, you know, we weafter the summer break, we've
had this period of other manufacturers and we still
seeing it, you know, we still seeing it.

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But you know, these guys obviously one had injuries and
mark, I mean Pekko bike was, youknow, giving them more problems.
You know, when Pekko won Japan, I asked it was a fluke.
You guys kind of said, yeah, well, Lewis, we'll, we'll throw
Lewis under out there. But no, it was a fluke.
He he he did when the the the Sprint.

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And if he didn't have a flat tire, from what we can tell, he
might have finished third or second in the GP race.
So they're figuring something out there.
But what do you what do you guysthoughts?
We go with TJ. We.
We talking we talking about Pekko here.
I'm just saying they both got towin.
I mean, it's weird that I'll saythis.

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It's weird how Moto GP has the Sprint and the GP, but it seems
like the Sprint is like the wicked step sister.
It's it's like they like, it's like they win, but it's not a
win because. I mean, I'm surprised Petco
actually got a win on the Sprintbecause he doesn't like the
Sprint. But it was actually good to see

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him very decent and actually, you know, all the way up to the
qualifying, he wasn't doing thatwell and it's surprising that he
actually got pulled. So for him to start in the front
row, I mean, you know, it's probably getting back to his
always a little different. I think he definitely deserved

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that Sprint. But going into the GPI mean,
yeah, he might have a puncture flat, but I mean, I feel like
he's still playing the safe. I mean, I've seen top rack ride
a wheel off a rim. So like he needs to just he had
three laps left, man. Like you gotta you just don't
pull over. But I I mean, I guess it was
just super flat. I don't know.

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But I don't know, it's just maybe reflecting on his efforts
lately. It just shows that he's kind of
giving up. I don't know, But yeah, I mean.
And effort giving up. I listen.
I mean, you know, I've, I've, I've been, as you guys know, I I
try to be a fierce supporter of all the writers.
But you. You.
Yeah. Right.

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You think Pekko is lacking effort?
My goodness. I mean, they, they, they, they
were saying that he needs to ride around his problems, you
know, like everyone is going through the same thing.
Everyone's got the same tires, you know, and he's just, is
just, he's kept, it felt like he's just giving up.
Like, like Greece doesn't like to hear the writers say, you

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know, go show me how to get these lap times since you think
that can go faster. What do you say?
What do you got to say, Reese, about the efforts of of Alex?
Because I mean, TJ didn't touch on Alex yet, but Alex's effort
and Pekko's effort, he, you know, I mean, and I think did
Alex crash out of the of the spring?
I don't know. I got to check, but what are

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your thoughts on those two guys?I mean, I say on Alex, Alex's
effort, you know, in, in the race itself was great.
I mean, he checked out. I mean, that's what he was
supposed to do. I mean, he he checked himself
out. I don't remember if he did crash
out in the Sprint race. I couldn't remember right now.
But I know with Pekka, you know,as Louis says, you know, hold my

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beer, you know, I got this. But.
Alex finished second in the Sprint, so there we go.
So I mean that right there tellsyou his efforts.
I mean, he he, he had, but you got to look at it and and TJ
said the best. We all they all have their
problems, right? Every rider has their problems.

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Can you ride around the problemsbecause you want you can't have
a a perfect bite. You can't have a a perfect
setup. You got to have at least a 90 or
85% something, you know, in the realm.
But he's he's one guy that wantsa perfect bite And he ever
noticed if he gets out front andgets clean air track, then he
does good. But when he's behind somebody or

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whatever, I can't do this. I can't do that.
I can't. I'm like, man, if you don't stop
bitching and pull your pants up and just ride the damn bike like
I'm at that point. You know, Lorenzo, I mean, you
know, I mean, you know, oh, hey,Lorenzo is similar to that.
He was out front and he'll, he'll, he'll kind of do the same
thing. But if you have to fight, you
didn't. You didn't know how it was going
to turn out. Right.

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He just can't. It seemed like he always had
problems and he's got to fight. But if I seen him once he got
out front, I said, oh, he's gone, he's going to check out.
He's got clear track. That's his normal game.
If you get clear track in front of him, he can check out.
But if there is someone in frontof him, that's it's like a
mental thing. He's like, oh, I can't catch
them. I can't do this, I can't.
So it's like a mental thing withhim, like a mental block.

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OK, I mean my, my I could, I could, you know, we'll see the
Louis, what are your thoughts, man, on on these guys?
You know, it's, you know, got, we got 2 rounds left after this
and you know, we were we were I on the on who's going to win
that we post on YouTube. We didn't have any of the faves
on there. And so I was thinking it was

(28:24):
going to be Raul or Aldeguir or Acosta or, you know, Bazecki,
one of these guys. But you know, these guys, they
don't need a contract at the moment.
So. No, I think, I think this
weekend overall Aperia had a hada rough weekend.
If you look at the overall results from all the Aperia
riders, they didn't, they weren't shining, let's put it

(28:46):
that way. I think their top finish this
weekend was Bizecki and the Sprint.
And then after that, you know, the tumble from where Bizecki
was at downward was pretty steep, you know.
So Aprilia, this, this wasn't their track.
This wasn't their weekend, whether it was the heat or
something, just wasn't working. And Alex, Alex had a solid

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weekend with a one and two between the two races.
Acosta had a solid weekend, eventhough he had to go back to his
garage and pretty much tell him,turn all the electronic stuff
off. Let me just ride the bike with
my hands, man. And it worked out for him.
Like the dude is able to, you know, was able to ride
considering that they turned down all the electronics,
according to what the media is saying, because he was having so

(29:33):
many problems with the setup of the bike.
And then as far as Petco, I think his problem is he's trying
too hard now because he was the only rider that opted to go with
a different compound tire. He was hoping that the, the,
the, the race would come to him later on in the race.
Like he's doing all this extra stuff, either trying to

(29:53):
compensate for something he's not feeling good with the bike
or whatever it is. I mean, he had a solid Sprint
and sprints are great wins. I mean, a wins AWSAW, even if
it's a half W, it's still, you know, AW, but he's got a, he's
got to put it together on Sundaymore than anything else.
And I, I thought that with mark out of the picture for the next
3 rounds, he might be the guy to, to focus on because now the

(30:18):
team is giving him 100% attention.
He has to be the guy that gets everything he needs, you know,
as soon as he gets in the garage.
What is it you need? Let's get it done because you
need to be our top guy out there.
And Mark, you know, and Alex is still, you know, another Marquez
is still taking the school. Right.
Yeah. I, I, I, I, I was, I was a
little bit shocked at the mediumand in the beginning in the

(30:41):
struggles and stuff like that because he, I mean, he was doing
everything possible to keep Acosta at Bay.
But you know, I mean, if, if he would have got a second or third
place, it wouldn't have been a bad weekend.
I mean, you know, it's and, and unfortunately with a, with a
tire, you can't. I mean, who are you going to
blame? I don't know, some.
Somehow the VR 46 people are going to say Alex put a

(31:03):
thumbtack out there. Some they have to blame the
Marquez brother. I got the VR46.
I mean, you know, Petco's on thefactory team.
Why can't it be somebody from from the factory team like his
sister? He gave my boy Joanne Mayor
podium so. Hey Honda.

(31:23):
Honda got back on the box again.Listen, you know get on the box
of crash, right? I'll tell you what, they know
how to celebrate in that garage,man.
Twice in what is it, 4-4 weeks, 5 weeks they've been on the box
and they celebrate like it's like they're coming.
Like they're satellite team. Stop playing, Yeah.

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Like yeah, remember the CRT teams?
Not even the satellite team. And you went way back to the
CRT. You know, yeah, it, it's, it,
it, it was, it was good to see those guys race.
I, I think the, you know, after the last round and even the
round before that, I, I think wewere expecting a little bit
more, but it seems like the heatgot in the got in the way for a

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lot of riders and, and a lot of riders struggled with that heat.
There's a lot of crashing. There was a lot of hard crashing
and stuff like that. You know, let's talk about KTMI
guess because you know, you like, like Lewis said, Acosta
turned off the electric, got theelectronics turned off and was
able to do something. But you know, what's going on

(32:31):
with these other riders that youknow, that they, they, they
can't find their way, so to speak, You know, I mean, you
know, Bashin, he's doing what he's doing coming through the
field and stuff like that. But you're not going to win any
championships or anything like that.
What are your thoughts on we're we're KTM outside of Acosta?
Because I mean, he's been, I mean, he's looking for that win.
So he might be doing, you know, as much as Bagnaya, but he's

(32:57):
not, he's having better luck, soto speak.
I mean, he may disagree because there's a couple of crashes that
took him out of the podium. What are your thoughts on KTM?
I mean, from from the start of the year, I mean all the news
that they got and just not having a full team, like you
need to have a full team, you know, like your leader also has
to be out there. Like Maverick was pretty much

(33:18):
helping them and giving them direction.
I felt like when they were struggling and for their ups and
downs and they just can't be consistent.
Like some reason I don't understand, like, like Brad
Bender is a good writer, but like, he's not helping much at
all. Like I don't see him helping any
situation. He's always in the back of the

(33:39):
pack. Like Pedro's putting in the
work. He's always screaming, showing,
showing his emotion and, you know, fascinating.
He has his first time on KTM, but he's just always in the
back. So it's like very inconsistent.
There's some weekends if they'regood, some weekends, most
weekends they're bad. And they still have a full
squad. So it's just, I don't right now,

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I feel like the two guys, Brad and and Ed just trying to just
finish the year, just see what happens next year.
I don't feel like they can, I don't know what what they really
can improve going forward. Obviously they can try to
improve, but they just they justdon't see it.
All right, all right, Reese for your thoughts on KTM.
And I mean, you know, I know Brad I think got one more year

(34:23):
on his contract. I think he had like a three-year
contract. I mean, is it time for Brad to
find a new, a new, a new team change of pace, you know, for
for 2027? It might be time for Brad to
find a new series and head over to the World Super Bike.
I think that's possible, but I agree with TJ 100%.

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I mean, you need your guy out there.
You need Vinales. It seemed like Vinales was the,
you know, the glue that held everything together that, you
know, gave them the direction onwhich way the bike needs to go
on what needs to happen and everything else.
And now that he's there, it's just like, man, that was just
like a tumbling house. It just went the shit, you know.

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And you know, Pedro Acosta showssome when he when I saw him do
that, he she showed some real maturity.
Then they said they show him a little bit mature to actually
want to ride the bike with 0 electronics, like turn the
electronics down, like just put them all the way low as possible
and let me do this. So that, that shows a sign of,

(35:29):
hey, I, I know these, these electronics are actually,
they're supposed to help you, but these electronics are
actually hindering me. So, you know, good, good ideal
to him. And, and, you know, he rode the
wheels off that bike and which is very smooth and very easy
with it, but with Bender and, and you know them, I just don't

(35:52):
see where they're going. You know, they just they
actually need some help. Right, right.
Yeah, I agree. And you know, we shall see Louis
with your thoughts on KTM and you know, the electronics and I
know we're going to see a lot less than 27 as far as
electronics and stuff like that to give him more power to the

(36:13):
riders, literally and figuratively.
You know, what are your what areyour thoughts on where KTM is?
And you know, Brad need to come to Motor America.
I think next year is going to bea very, very trying year for KTM
between the financial issues that they're going through,
because we are, you know, we can't forget those.

(36:33):
I mean, they weigh heavily upon the minds of those cutting the
checks at KTM. I'm sure they're going to have a
lot of contracts that come due next year.
So, you know, what do they see as their future one?
Are they going to continue racing in Moto GP because it is
a very big check to cash every year to go racing in Moto GP?

(36:55):
Do they want to continue with four bikes?
Do they want to actually have a true satellite team that's
separate from their team? So obviously the tech three team
is now owned by somebody else. So I think that person is going
to infuse a lot of money to makesure that the KTM squad or at
least the KTM bikes stay in the grid.
So there's at least 4. But on the factory itself, you

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know, if I see the performance of Brad Bender as as currently a
33 year old, next you're going to be 34 year old.
Do I want to sign a guy for yourtwo year contract that has not
really given me the results thatI wanted when he was at the peak
of his youth and now he's going to be 353637 if I sign into a

(37:38):
two year deal, do I want to do that with Maverick Vinales?
You know, Maverick Vinales is a great rider, but he's another
basket case. Either you need to be the
greatest rider on the planet or the worst rider to work with.
So you really have Pedro Acosta who wants to leave the team
immediately because he wants instant results and the bikes

(37:59):
not giving them the instant results.
The only guy that they can counton for 27 is Bastianini because
he's got no ride anywhere, so he's just working for food.
He'll be more than happy to stayon a shitty bike because we can
stay in the top ten just so he can have a competent ride until
he can find something better. So a.
Lot of question marks with the KTM team.

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Yeah, I agree with Bastianini. I mean, you know, I, I, you
know, I won't, I won't go on my Ducati case.
But you know, Bastianini, he, he, he, he, he is a talented
rider. And I, I we, you know, like any
sport, you know, we question decision making of the owners.
I mean, their right to make whatever decisions they make,
obviously, but as fans, we disagree with some of it, most

(38:42):
of it really. But do you really?
I mean, even though Vinjales, asyou hear both Reese and and TJ
say, I mean, he's helped the team along with even I mean, I
guess they got rid of Miller. So but you know, you don't think
it's worth keeping Vinjales. I mean, he doesn't he outside of
this injury, this is like the first real major injury he's had

(39:04):
in Moto GP. So he's still has a pretty, you
know, healthy body, so so to speak, even though this shoulder
injuries taken a lot longer to heal.
If my choices were Bastionini, Bender, and Vinales, I would
absolutely keep Vinales. Of those three guys, that's the
guy would keep because he has been proven a winner.

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The biggest problem with him is if he's not happy, he becomes a
giant pan in the ass, which is not a bad thing because you need
that person to push you to get the bike better.
But we've seen that, you know, he's burned the bridge at Yamaha
and that's a bridge he's never going to go back to.
He only has two other manufacturers left that he can
even go to at this point. Right, right.

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But. You know, Venialis is like a
Kevin Garnett. Don't we all want a Kevin
Garnett on our team? TJ Reese, Yeah.
I mean, we do, but I think he's kind of worse than a Kevin
Garnett. Right, yeah, you, you need that
Marcus Smart, Kevin Garnett typeplayer all the time.
But yeah, this. It can't be a nuisance though.
Right. But I mean, listen what you, you

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can't, you can't, you can't criticize the guy when it's just
not working. He's the same guy the whole
time. Yeah, I mean, I know now we're
like, oh, it's not working. Damn, you need Maverick.
But when Maverick's actually outthere, you're like, you know,
this dude's like, so like, you know, you don't miss it when
he's gone, but at the same time,like, it just it just be cordial

(40:29):
in that stuff. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I've been
rooting for a Maverick all year.I'm glad that he's got to shine
and suck that he's injured, because I think KTM Acosta would
have had help, right? And you know what I mean?
And and that would, that would have, we would have been talking
differently about a AKTM. And I mean, it's the same thing

(40:50):
with with Martine, I guess with Aprilia, you know, if, if he was
there, Bazecki would have had help.
But although we we, I think Bazecki would have been like
Bledsoe instead of being like Tom Brady and, and, you know,
it's like he's getting a chance to be Tom Brady right now.
What are your thoughts? I mean, we talked about earlier

(41:10):
a little bit, but let's just dive further into it.
The struggles, the penalties, you know, the up and the ups and
down, they're still a better brand as far as in the
championship than KTM. But it it you know, and, and we
are obviously we, we can say Ducati's been struggling last
few rounds too with their up andup and down.

(41:31):
But this is the first weekend that Aprilia's really struggled
since like the the summer break.What are your thoughts, TJ?
Yeah, man, I don't, I don't knowthe the reason why they
struggle. Like, like I said, they just
need more help, more data. Like you figured that Raul was

(41:53):
on a high after his last race and I feel like he struggled
also. So yeah, they were just, they
just just didn't have it. I mean, I don't, I don't know if
there's just just a longer layout of the track where a lot
more things are required. And I mean, there's a little
overcast and stuff like that. But you know, everyone had to go

(42:14):
out there and do the same thing,you know, but I just don't know
if they just had enough data or why they why they struggled.
That's just more of an insider. I just don't understand.
OK, All right. Let's let's see if Reese might
have a idea of why. I'll throw something out there.
Is it a lack of funds? Because they probably poorest
brand in Moto GP when you think about it.

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They're a small brand, you know,I, I don't think their money is
long. Their, their, their money ain't
like Yamaha, Hondo, Ducati, AKA Volkswagen.
What are you? What are your thoughts, Reese?
I mean, I mean, of course KTM isone of the lowest down there.
I mean, but I mean, Aprilia is the struggle that Aprilia had

(42:58):
this weekend. I mean, I still think that
they're one of the the the better brands of bikes out there
with Ducati. I think they're one of the top
brands as far as you know, as far as you're looking at Honda,
Yamaha, KTM, Yamaha is just shuttling all the way.
You know, Honda has, you have seen Honda start a little bit of

(43:25):
you want to say trickling up there towards the front, you
know, or, or consistency. Yeah, KTM is struggling a little
bit, but I think they're struggling because, yeah, it
could be lack of funds, but thenit's also, you don't have that
that rider out there that is a well developed rider, but that

(43:46):
can actually help develop a bikethat understands what we need to
win. He, that person is missing.
Acosta can be it, but Acosta still is a little green behind
it. You know, the Gills, he's he's
learning his way slowly but surely.
Acosta wants to take that that role and say I'm the leader of
this team. But I think they still need

(44:09):
that. It's just like, you know, as
basketball in any sport, you need that vet, you need that one
veteran player there. You need that veteran guy.
And that's what Vinales is to bethat.
And you know, they just don't have it.
Same thing and brilliant. They don't have.
I think Martine is that veteran guy for Aprilia to actually help

(44:30):
out a little bit. But you know that they're still
both kind of little young. Yeah, that's.
What I say when when you're in a28 year old, you can't be a vet.
Not a vet but he has. He's been around Ducati long
enough to understand certain scenarios.
He's been around that Ducati bike some some time now, so he

(44:52):
can understand, hey, maybe we need to try this or maybe we
need to try that. He can kind of give a little bit
more insight, you know, and. And is it fair to say where
Aprilia went wrong? And, and I know, you know, I, I
don't listen. I don't want to mess with it.
I don't want to say anything about anybody's contracts or

(45:12):
anything like that and how somebody feels about something.
Because I mean, to me it seems like a big deal for Maverick to
leave because they didn't talk to him about signing Martine.
But Vinyalis was that guy to be the veteran, right?
And and he probably would have helped out Aprilia, like he
helped out, he's helping out KTM.

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And and you know, you know, you know, you get you get your heart
broken once and you know, was Vinyalis trying to destroy the
engine? Was he not as his side against
no one's in his head. So we don't know, right?
We can only speculate and we cansay whatever we don't know.
But you know, for him to leave Aprilia the way he did, there's
some animosity. I think that came from Yamaha

(45:57):
and how he felt he was treated that this time it's just like,
I'm not giving you a chance. This first girl broke my heart.
You look like you might break myheart.
So Deuces and and you know, thatkind of thing.
So do you think that Aprilia kind of screwed up by not having
that conversation? Maybe they didn't.
Maybe they didn't screw up because maybe they didn't think
they that he needed that kind oftalk, right?

(46:20):
What are your thoughts, Louis? I think.
It could be a basket case. Yeah, I mean, again, we don't
know what happened behind the scenes.
Maybe there were some already, some internal turmoil and that's
why they didn't want to tell him.
You know, Maverick isn't known in the paddock as being somebody
that's easy to talk to. He's a great rider again, but

(46:40):
that doesn't mean that, you know, he's great communicator or
he's easy to get along with. There's some guys that are just,
you know, hard to get along with.
Whether you like it or not and whether you respect them on the
track, they're just difficult toget along with.
And I think maybe Aprilia saw anopportunity to get two really
young, talented riders and said this is the opportunity we got
to take as a team. This is what we have to do.

(47:01):
Maybe Maverick was asking for more money than Aprilia was
willing to give them. Again, these are negotiations,
things that we don't know if. If Vinales was asking for 1 1/2
times what Bez is getting, then they got a great deal.
By getting Bez, they got a youngrider that's put up some great
numbers and done everything else.

(47:22):
And with his time with the Prelia, I mean, really, what did
it Vinales do when he was with the Prelia?
You know, it's not like he lit the world on fire.
I don't remember seeing how manywins he had.
One win, one win. So Bez is already beaten his one
win several times over, right? Right.
So you know. Financially, they got a better
deal by getting Bez and even if he did get a little bit butt

(47:45):
hurt. This is the the name on the
building. The name on the check is is
Piaggio is not Vinales. You work for us, man.
We don't work for you. If we tell you you're going to
work with this person. If you don't want to work with
them, that's a you problem. You know, I don't have to tell
you everything I'm going to do. I thought this was your chance
to completely do a a AA180 on. You're my employee.

(48:10):
You're my employee. I was.
Like, OK, he's coming around. I, I, I do like a AA9097, maybe
in A10189. I'll give him a little props
because he is, he's one of the most talented riders in the
paddock, hands down. I can never take that away from

(48:30):
him. But you know, from, from what's
been said through the media and so forth, he's not always the
easiest guy to get along with, not the easiest guy to have on
the team. And that's another dynamic that
we're not looking into. You know what, what in KTM
internally might need to change outside of the riders, You know,
we have the same mechanics, the same techs, the same lead
technician, the same team principal for all this time.

(48:54):
You know, maybe it's time to change the team principle over
at KTM. Maybe the, you know, change some
of those faces around because the faces on the bikes you can
keep a million times. If your coaching team sucks,
you're still going to have a shitty product out there.
Right. You know, the qualities that
Maverick has, I mean, there's some principles that have that
same, that same character and, and that's a good thing for

(49:17):
them, but for him it's not. So you know, it's tough when you
don't when you don't sign a check, as they say.
Let's talk about Speaking of check, let's talk about Honda.
Because as, as Marquez told Zarko and some of the other guys
some months back on Honda, it's like, look, yes, I gave up a lot

(49:39):
of money. So don't waste it doesn't seem
like Honda's wasting the money they got back from Marquez.
And is it? Is it it?
Is it time to say they're officially back?
No, we're not going. We're not going to jump that
gun. Yeah, I mean I can, I can see

(50:02):
improvement. I mean if if mirror would have
had stayed up maybe 10 more Grand Prix than possibly we.
Could have. He's had over 44 crashes.
I mean, that's my guy. I like, I like Mirror from like
when he won his first championship and and stuff like
that, but. The Suzuki guy.

(50:24):
Yeah, yeah, all right. Don't say nothing.
But anyway, yes, OK. So I feel like if he's finished
with more grand prixs and Luca was around more, I feel like
they'll have a better step than they're making now.
It's a little late in the season, but I don't want to say

(50:44):
they're officially back yet. But I can say that they're
making steps. Right steps all.
Right, all right, you know, Reese and you said no, but I
mean, they could be like, you know, Colorado State with Dion,
their second year, you know, it's a lot better than their
first previous five years, you know, and and Honda, you know,

(51:05):
there again, you know, crashes here, crashes there as you know,
these guys are on the limits allthe time.
So, you know, you blink and you crash.
What, What do they need to do tofor you to say they're back?
Consistent consistency is key. I mean, it's not just show like

(51:26):
they're doing now. You know, there's one race they
show grade, then the next one they're like nowhere to be fat
round. And it's like the next one,
they're nowhere around the next one they come up, they're in the
top ten. Give me more consistency.
And then I could say, hey, they're they're making a push to
come back. I mean, right now they're
showing a lot more improvements than the blue brand.

(51:46):
You know, it sucks, but they're they're showing their
improvement. They're showing that, you know,
they didn't waste that money that mark has left on the table.
You know, they're actually taking the initial steps to
improve the bike and do what they need to do.
You know, and I, I keep saying this all to a lot of people.
I mean, you have one more year of the one thousandths.

(52:09):
You got one more year. After that year, it's almost
like a, you know, start from everybody.
Everybody starts from zero. And, you know, we just hopefully
everybody can, you know, come tothe table at that time.
Yeah, I mean, I do think we we'll move into it, but the
riders, the the the teams that are in they got bikes and other
series might have a better chance of that.

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Lewis, what are your thoughts onHonda, where they're at, and you
know what you know? Are you saying they're back?
Not yet. I'm saying they're further ahead
of than Yamaha at this point. You know, I'll definitely say
that I've said that for a while now.
I felt that they have been improving in the right ways.

(52:52):
And you know, nobody ever said that the Honda didn't have
motor. I was going to bring that up
because on the straights with Luca Marini, we thought we
thought some bikes was going to.He was right there.
So Honda doesn't have a problem with the motor.
Honda's always had problems withstability in the braking and

(53:12):
corner speed and edge grip and you know, things like that.
So, and some of that you can getmechanically, some of that you
can get through electronics. And some of that you got to find
a rider that can ride around some of those issues.
And they had that rider for a long time in Marquez.
And now they're trying to build a bike that's a little more
suitable for more guys than justone guy.
And that's what I'm hoping Ducati stays away from, is don't

(53:34):
don't make the bike so Marquettecentric that it becomes to a
point where nobody else can rideit.
And Honda did that for a long time and now they're kind of
having to go back to the drawingboard and build a bike.
But the motor was never the problem.
You know, the bike puts down ridiculous amount of power, you
know, So I feel that they're definitely ahead of Yamaha by a

(53:55):
few steps because they don't have to build a motor from
scratch. They have the motor, they know
they have the overall chassis. They just have to get these
finer points figured out and they're doing it.
I mean, they're they are investing, they're doing the
right things and I think they'redoing it in a way that makes
sense. I mean, they're not just going
to throw all the money at this thing because again, next year
is the last year for these bikes.
So I'm not going to dump all my R&D into a bike that I'm

(54:18):
scrapping in 18 months. You know, let me take some of
that R&D money and start puttingit towards that bike for 2027.
So when that season kicks off, we're not at the back of the
table, we're at the front of thetable.
You know, we're, we're doing theright thing to get our bike back
up to the top step as quickly aspossible.
OK. I just hope that the riders
survive between now and then. You know, if, you know, if Luca

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what, what we see Luca and mayordoing, I mean, you know, if
Marquez was on that bike, I mean, wouldn't it be a winning
bike because I mean the Ducati. It would it would be a winning
bike because of him, but not because of the bike.
Well, I mean, we could say that about a 25.
You know Ducati? Yeah, except his brother's

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winning on it also. That's a 20.
That's a 24. 20 ish. Listen, in some states it
matters. I I think, I think.
Honda is doing the right. Thing yeah, I think Honda is
doing the right thing, the rightway because you see what Mir, if
you look at Mir and Marini, theyhave very similar styles.

(55:24):
So they're making a bike to workwith a specific style, very
smooth, very fast corner type ofstyle, not a hard breaking
shooting point, you know, kind of style where you have to kind
of go into the corner and you have to use your rear brake to
get that last 2% of the turn done because your front brake is
already gassed out and you're going to crush the front end.

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So they're changing the dynamicsof the bike away from what
Marquez is good at. So something that more people
could be good at and that's whatthey need.
They need a better rounded all around better bike.
OK, I agree. You know, before you leave off
Honda Zarco, he's looking better, still crashing a bunch.

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Some cat. I I saw they were cheering him
on because he finished 15th. I don't know if they're saying
goodbye to him. I don't know what.
They saying goodbye, They sayinggoodbye.
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Good riddance.
And you know, this is on Honda, right?
This is on Honda for I mean, I mean, I shouldn't say it's on
Honda because maybe somebody wrote them a fat check for him

(56:25):
to come over. We don't we don't know.
But and you know, they they're shipping them off to to world
super bike, but this is on Hondabecause you know, this guy needs
like Raul Fernandez. He needs more time.
I don't think he's a bad rider. He needs more time.
Some. No, he's a bad.
Rider they don't like, they don't like giving time though.

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How much time can you get though?
He's like, hey, I need time. I'm in the world.
State he he really got a. Year and he was hurt ATM don't
give you that sometimes you knowlike you know like certainly
cash don't give you that one year in and you're out Hey let
me garden go on. We trying to raise this ain't no
fundraising case. Come on, listen, man, now let's

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let's let let let me know I've this has been one of my gripes
with Gardner, with Ika Luku Ono,with some cat.
There's some guys that get a bunch of time, but listen.
Brad Bender got a lot of time. You know, Elise and Paul got a
lot of time, Bradley Smith got alot of time, you know, Tito Ruby

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got a lot of time. Reading had a lot of time in
these in GP like and they and these guys barely got wins so
like. That's what I don't I.
Don't get like how? How do we?
Hey, hey. But you got to say they had a
lot of time. But some of those guys you
named, they at least were top 10, at least top 10.

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As a rookie. As a rookie.
Where did didn't they get it like once?
Am I? Because if I'll go back in that.
Listen, listen, yeah, Kagame gotpulled once too, right?
So I mean like some crash. He he, he would have got, he
would have got it a little bit of a, you know, situation.
When When nobody's going to track.
Listen, you never know. It's Moto GP.
You never know what can happen until you watch.

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Everybody crashes out like some Chad.
Just need to go find something else to do.
That's what he need to do. It's tricky, right?
Because he probably should have stayed in Moto 21 more year
because he probably would have been a force in Moto 2 because
he was coming into his own Moto 2.
But it's tough because as a Moto, and I, and I'll say this
with, I think Raul Fernandez came to Moto GP too soon as

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well. I think he should have stuck
around and stayed another year and be at the front of the front
of the Moto 2 grid instead of coming into Moto GP and
struggle. So we do see it when these guys
come early. But also if you don't take the
ride, you also see that you get blacklisted.
Like, you know, Roberts and someof these other guys that didn't
jump on the Perilia when it was,you know, worse than the Honda

(58:58):
the ride. Yeah, that's tough.
That's tough. I do agree with that.
Like just got to go with the floor, I guess.
I mean, I mean, so I've just still got to ride and I'm still
an emoji P. But you know, I mean, his times
are not too bad, but they're just not good enough by by a

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lot. Like like he's I feel like he's
keeping pace, but he's like, I mean, if you want to call being
a second a second-half off not close.
I mean, I guess that's really not close like like like all of
a sudden the past few years all these riders are within 1/2 a
second from each other, but after like years before it was
within one or one, two, one or two seconds.

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So yeah, it's just unfortunate. I mean like and and the bike
that he's on I guess is also developing too, so.
Well, listen, I mean to sign Diego Marira is, I'm not going
to sit here and say he's not a top notch rider and doesn't
belong in Moto GP and stuff likethat, but they are breaking the
mold because he's not Asian. And they've been kind of doing

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that for almost 8 to 10 years tohave an Asian rider on on, on
the squad. So I can't believe Samkat did
that bad that they said no more.Well, I, I think that might be
with, you know, what are their options?
What, what other Asians do they have at Moto 2?
That's an option. Let's keep keep them for another
year. I mean, listen talking to
Nakagami. I love the guy, but like, like,

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you know, he started out the same way as Samkat and you know
what I mean? Like I said, he got one pole I
think and it was it her Herz or it was one of the Spanish
rounds. And he crashed out first lap,
crashed out right so. So he was consistent with what
you're saying? That's what I'm saying and I

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think he came in in 15. I think 15 to 16 is when he came
in. But like, you know, it's it and,
and the blast when the bike was,you know, really bad.
But you know what I'm saying? So it, it, you know, it, it's
weird. I mean, I, I'm glad to see him
in, in, in world super bike and stuff.
But let's talk about the Yamaha before we get into world super
bike. You know, Miller, you know, I,

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you know, I know some people question why Miller got
resigned, but when we see these efforts from him, granted, like,
you know, he doesn't have the same luck.
And to see how dejected he was, you know, when he crashed out,
you know, it, it, it, it's pretty, it's pretty wild to see
because it's kind of, you know, as you guys know, you know, you,

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you know, sometimes you don't know why things ain't working
out in that moment and, and stuff like that.
So what are your thoughts on where Yamaha is?
Because they're, they're showingflashes of, you know, you know,
one lap speeds and stuff like that.
And they can qualify fairly well, but they really stay, I
don't want to say they're struggling like KTM, but their
their struggles seem to like once the tire falls off, they

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they turn into like a, a Fiat. I mean, yeah, they're really
struggling. I feel like there's just still a
lot of Yamaha fans or a lot Yamaha believers out there for
for GP. Like they just want to see them
do good because, you know, they got fabulous a really good
value. Don't want to waste that talent.
And he's been proving it vice not showing it.

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Jack Miller, I mean, he's just been up and down, up and down,
up and down, up and down. I mean, granted, he just had his
Grand Prix hopefully gave you some confidence and you know,
it's all kind of like not about you, but about you.
So you can like use that to helpa little bit.
I mean, and then Miguel, I thinkhe crashed out in sprints.

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So yeah, it's just not really looking good.
That V4 was terrible. I think like and I think it it
shouldn't have been been out there.
I mean, I mean, they try, they try to get results.

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I mean, it was just like it was just, I mean, obviously trying
to see what it got. It's just it just didn't look
good. It didn't look good.
Listen man, there are a lot of people that roll something out
for the very first time. Yeah.
It don't even make it down the street.
You know, I gotta go back to thedrawing board like you.
Know I feel, I feel like Fabio right now.

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You know, you know, you know, Einstein is some of these guys,
man, 100 a thousand experiments before they get it right.
I mean, you know, it's, you know, at Reese, come on, you
know, you guys, how many, how many stuff you guys have in the
warehouse that didn't even make it on the bike?
There's more parts that. Don't make it on stuff than do
because you know, I don't want to say it's trial and error, but

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it's trial and error. What are your thoughts, Reese?
Yeah, trial and error that testing not not during race
weekend like trial and error that testing man, I don't know
about no race weekend. Race weekend we trying to win.
It's the weekend when? You send the bankers away and,
and, and you know, you keep all the the engineers.

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I mean, you keep putting that V4out yeah, you going to send the
bankers away not wanting to invest like that thing is dog
slower than the in line forward like what the F is this?
But I mean, with, you know, keeping Jack on the and, you
know, with Jack, I mean, he shows his, he shows his little
spurts here and there. I mean, over this.

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I think with Miguel, I mean, if you, you know, between Miguel
and between Miguel and Jack, I mean, they kept the right one.
They kept Jack. So, you know, that was, you
know, for that. But I mean, at this point in
time, you're getting ready to almost lose Fabio, you know, for
the 27th season, you're getting ready to lose him.
He's going to be like, yeah, I'mdone.
I'm calling. He's where's he going to go?

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He's not, he's not going anywhere.
He's not going anywhere. He where he where he going to
go? Han I mean Costa's going to
Honda. Like where are you going to go?
He he he can just make noise andget a fatacon track and and and
get more pearls. Lewis, what are your thoughts on
Yamaha? Is it the V4 or is it the test

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rider? Augusta Fernandez has not been
tested. Like I don't think he should be
a test rider. Yeah, but think of it this way.
How long was Stephen Brattle a test rider for Honda?
You know, you just need to have a test rider, somebody that can
give you feedback the right way,not necessarily the fastest guy,

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the right guy that can give you feedback.
And sometimes the guy that can give you the best feedback is
not the fastest guy. He might be, you know, a half a
second, 3/4 of a second or even a second slower than the guys at
the front, but he can feel things and explain them to the
engineers better than a super fast guy.
Like if I had to build a bike tomorrow and my test rider, the

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two options are going to be MarkMarquez or Maverick Vinales.
I would pick Maverick Vinales because Mark Marquez is going to
give me great feedback for a bike for him.
Right. Vinales is going to give me
great feedback to make a great bike.
OK, so but but Fernandez is not that.

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But if if that's the case, then Michaely Piero, he tests all the
Ducatis, our Ducati ship boxes cuz he's he's slow as he's slow
as. Balls the 25 man you you.
I'm on record. I already complained about the
25. I already said it to me.
It's the worst bike since the 2020.
So then blame Michele Piero cuz he's the one that's testing or
blame Lucas Salvadori. Again, you know, that's what

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I'm, that's why I'm asking this,cuz you know, but you know, it's
a different era, right? And I, and I get what you're
saying, but are you telling me there's no former Moto GP riders
that's had a better career than than Fernandez to be A, to be a
test rider? The only good one that wants to
do it is Danny Pedrosa. What other former GP rider would

(01:06:59):
you want to Jorge Lorenzo? Yo, my man's eating a lot of
arepas. He's looking real pudgy around
the middle. He's.
Starting to look like some of these retired European football
players. My man's like what I don't have
to work out anymore. Bet you don't have to dare me
and. Then I mean we do got Dolby.

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Dobby's Dobby does ride here andthere.
But you know, yeah, he's he's he.
But he's just coming on though. He's replacing Cal and Cal been
hurt for like a two years since his accident he seems like he's
been hurt. And all right, so outside of
those two guys, who else do you have that's going to want to?
Do it well. They, they, they lost the lace
cause the lace is with Honda. I mean, Rossi's racing.

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So he's not going to come in and, and be a test rider for
sure. I mean.
I mean, I wasn't expecting like,you know, Fernandez to come in
and and be top 15. Obviously it's a new project,
but like they're literally transitioning to this bike
pretty soon. Like it's going to be a fabulous
hands in a couple months or in amonth or two.

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Obviously his scale level will help improve it, but like, you
know, yeah, Mapira was way down the path.
He was like 20th, you know, but like and, you know, just see
like chanter not to pick on him,finish ahead of him in the
Sprint. And the GPI know it's not about
the speed. It's just I feel like it the
direction that Yamaha is trying to head, they should show more

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improvement. And to a fan, maybe they're
seeing something we're not seeing.
I think the best test rider theyhave is Alex Renz.
Take him off the factory seat and put somebody else in the
factory seat and makes Alan because Alex Renz, he just
doesn't have it, man. He now it's very clear that he
just has not recovered from his last injury because he's just,

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he's a shell of the guy he was just three years ago.
And it's not the bike because I mean, he's finishing either
right in front of or right behind Jack Miller.
So it's it's definitely not the bike.
He still has skill, he just doesn't have that extra piece to
to get him to the front anymore and I think he's riding out his
contract once his contract is done.
If I was Yamaha, I would keep him as a test rider because that

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dude is fast. That dude is smooth.
That dude can help you build a fast bike.
Just take him out of the racing environment and put him on his
full test riding environment andhe will help you develop a bike
really, really well. He'll be testing that V4 next
year for the whole season. From 18th place, did you guys

(01:09:30):
give that seat to somebody else?I I think Renzel figured it out.
I believe in Renzel like he's. Too.
But I think, I think it's the writing's on the wall that next
year will be his. Last year I don't.
Figure it out. He's figuring out how to be a
test writer. You.
Think you think it's hard to become a test writer.
Like, you know, you say it's probably fit for him, but what

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if he's like, no, I don't want to do that.
Remember, when you're a test rider, you're not traveling
around the world anymore. You're talking about a guy who's
married with kids who who probably would, would, doesn't
mind flying away for like a weekto go test ride and then come
home and be with his family again.
You know, he's got plenty of money.
He can retire, make his money onthe side.

(01:10:11):
He's still going to make money off his name and off his his
fame, but for certain guys, thisis the best reality of after
racing, what am I going to do after racing?
He's not going to be a commentator because Polis
Barbara has already locked that down.
It's. Just made.
It's just made for certain people, you know?
Yeah. And, and even when he's on the

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mic, he's not the most charismatic person in the world.
I mean, he's a great guy, but he's, you know, he's not having
everybody's attention and, and making the inflections that you
need to really grab the the audience's attention.
Commentating is is a difficult game in itself.
But you put him on a bike on a track with engineers, let him go
out, run paces. He knows how to ride, he knows

(01:10:54):
how to go fast. And he would tell you how to fix
that bike minus the environment and the stress of a race weekend
and traveling for four weeks in a row and not seeing his family
and all this other stuff that does at his age and where he's
at his life. I'm sure that that that that
takes a toll on him, man. I can, yeah.

(01:11:15):
Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I think he got one year
left and I think he wants to winon another manufacturer before
he bows out. So, you know, he got at least 24
rounds to at least try to win a race.
So I mean, that's a that's, you know, at least 44 round 44
races. One of them he'll get.
But let's talk about girl super bike.
We got some, you know, more MotoGP, more Moto 2 riders coming

(01:11:37):
in. You know, you guys, you know, I
said you guys, Reese and and Lewis, you guys have been
following the sport and been in the sport longer than I have.
From what I can tell, it looks like this is the most most Moto
GP or Moto 2 riders I've seen inWorld Super Bike paddock.
I don't know, Reese, when you got there, if you know, you know
if that's a good thing or not, because now you know folks

(01:12:01):
coming from different classes. It's going to be harder to get
into World Super Bike when, you know, you got the people leaving
Moto GP and Moto 2. Baltazari's coming back to Super
Bike next year. He's did like a world tour with
all these other classes and stuff like that.
Is it a good thing for these former Moto GP riders to be in

(01:12:23):
Moto, to be in World Super Bike And, and, and I mean, it's like
at least top 10? Yeah.
I mean, it's always good. I mean we always just say
sometimes World Super Bike is where, you know, the old GP
riders go to retire and die but not.
A young, not a young, not a you know, right?
Are you playing 425? Right.

(01:12:43):
So I mean, it's a good thing. Is it just just shakes up the
paddock? I mean you got it's a lot of
things that are moving pieces. You got Moto GPS guys getting
World Super bike, you got World Super bike guys coming over here
to Moto America. So you got a bunch of things
that's in play and it's just going to shake up the paddock
and it's just going to make the series more interesting.
So I think it is a good thing. It's just going to keep the

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sport growing and actually show some different views for people.
OK. All right, TJ, what are your
thoughts on that? I mean, I'm, I'm excited to see
next year the Lowe's brothers are going to win everything.
Yeah, the most. Well, I mean, I I do like I do
like the shake up and and you know, you see a couple of riders

(01:13:26):
soon to become aging out, you know, like, you know, some
riders again up in and so it's good to see like some names.
TJ come out. Oh, Vandemore Wells.
Bautista, you know, there's a couple of those guys, you know,
and now a big, big key thing, though, is that Top Rock left
too. So like it's like now a lot of

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fans that's probably watching the World Super bike because the
top rocks going to be like, all right, where's Top Rock going?
So they might lose a lot of fans, the World Super bike
because of this, but how do you keep it?
So, you know, just bring a younger crowd some Moto GP races
over here. So I think it's a good thing and
I think it is confirmed that Darren Bendis coming to Moto

(01:14:09):
Americas. That's true.
So. But I I I haven't heard of
Darren Bender's coming but. He might want to try Vandamark.
Right, right. It's tough.
Lewis, what are your thoughts onon, you know, those writers and
is it fear? Like, you know, TJ mentioned

(01:14:30):
Bulaga and we all saying Bulaga is going to run away with it
next year unless some of these other Moto GP riders might stop
him and stuff like that. We see that he looks like he may
ride Marquez's bike and one of these rounds coming up and stuff
like that, you know, is Bulaga getting showed the proper love

(01:14:50):
from Ducati? Is it is it is it maybe is he
being promised that he might be able to get a Moto GP ride?
Is this just a pat on the back to say, hey, we'll let you ride
this bike and and you know, as arider and he was in Moto 2, I'm
pretty sure he wanted to go to Moto GP before world super bike.
You know, what are your thoughtsoverall on on all these young
riders coming into our world super bike these days and then

(01:15:13):
build a good situation with Ducati?
I mean, the guys going to World Super Bike, I think increases
the quality of World Super Bike.You know, to see some, some
popular names from the Moto GP paddock going over to a World
Super Bike is a benefit to WorldSuper Bike.
Because like I said, I feel thatthere's a lack of stars in World
Super Bike right now. There was two big stars, one of
them is gone and now we need newstars.

(01:15:36):
We need new young stars that cango there and really shake it up
and bring some new life into that series.
You know, Alvaro Bautista again on the older side of old, Danilo
Bertucci on the older, older side of old.
I mean, these are well known names, but it's kind of time to
see some new young blood coming up and being competitive.

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And that's one of the things that I'm worried about about
World Super Bike. One, we've already noted that
the attendance this year hasn't been that great.
They have, they've only did 10 rounds, which for a world class
championship is not enough. I mean, 10 rounds is not enough.
Moto GP is doing 22 rounds and World Super Bike is doing less

(01:16:18):
than half of that. Like that's not acceptable.
Like World Super Bikes got to figure that out.
They got to expand. They got to go to more regions.
Like, they got to come to South America, they got to come to
Latin America, they have to cometo the US.
They can't just be the European Championship with one race in
Australia, you know, like that doesn't work.
You know, they need to go to Asia, they need to go to

(01:16:38):
Malaysia, they need to go to allthese other markets.
I just hope that it doesn't. Again, I've worried about this
for a while now that it doesn't become the Nicola Bulaga show.
You know, I hope that Ikaleko Ona will actually be able to
compete against his own teammateon the Ducati because I don't
see Danilo Petrucci jumping on the BMW and lighting the world

(01:17:01):
on fire. He's a great rider, but I don't
see him lighting the world on fire on that bike.
Miguel Alarira, if he gets through a season without being
taken out 18 times, that's a winby itself.
You know, maybe he let the Moto GP paddock because there was a
bounty out on him because he just couldn't get away from
people's front tires. Remember, do you remember those

(01:17:22):
old cartoons? You might where they, you know,
it was like, you know, they weredoing future cars and there's
one car that you know they have a car that the bumper doesn't
get scratched the. Whole car is destroyed but the
bumper. Is pristine.
Can we put something around? So with the guys that are coming

(01:17:42):
over from Moto GPI, hope they dosomething.
I mean, Jake Dixon and and Chantra going to Honda, we
talked about it last week. I think Honda's insane for
wiping the slate completely clean just as their riders are
actually becoming really competitive.
You saw Chavi the last? Round yeah.
Like that was like, I don't knowwhat Honda's thinking.

(01:18:03):
Maybe they see something in JakeDixon and Chantra that I don't
see. I don't.
Know all those guys racing Moto 2?
Maybe me, you know, maybe they're hoping that they bring
that Moto to energy and start banging bars and pushing people
wide and doing all that crazy Moto to stuff there.
But I don't, I still don't thinkHonda has the bike to be at the

(01:18:26):
very front with the Ducati yet, or even with the BMW.
But I still think they'll be competitive next year with the
BMW just because BMWs got a fullstable.
And you guys also that don't know the bike, don't know the
dynamics. And as good as a rider you are,
you still need to make the bike.Yeah, learn that bike, make
those adjustments that work withyour body, with your riding

(01:18:48):
style. So.
Yeah, I I think that Yamaha, I think next year Yamaha has a
shot in the world super bike. This is the talent and there and
some and pretty much everyone isstaying on the same bike.
I think the only person that's going there is Manzi.
I think everybody else's repeat offenders on the Yamaha and
Ducati. I mean every, you know the, I

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mean, I don't want to say Kawasaki's not there, but they
didn't show enough this year that they could be there next
year. But I think Yamaha cause Yamaha
look, what's his name? The other writer on the Agatelli
no AGO. For a while.
Yamaha, he's doing fairly well Ithink.

(01:19:30):
He's finishing Lakatelli. Lakatelli.
Lakatelli, yeah, he's finishing 4th and I think 4th or 5th in
the championship or something like that.
So I think Honda has a pretty good shot next year and we got.
Chubby next year? Yep.
Yeah, they got Javi Vieje and Lacatelli on the scene.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Johnny Ray retires.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then because Honda.
Is smoking crack and just let all their good riders leave.

(01:19:53):
Yeah, which is stupid. It it, it is.
It is crazy. But I think it's overall, it's a
good look to have these guys. In the sport, hopefully next
year, you know, it'll be different as far as the, the
attendance and stuff like that, but as far as the, the
competitive side of of of world super bike, it's cool to see

(01:20:15):
because in theory, you know, yougot 12 riders that can can
probably, you know, fight up front.
I mean fight for second down, because I think I, I think it's
going to be runaway Bulliga for next season.
Anything we miss? Anything you want to add before
we get out of here, guys? No, I got a question for Reese
that I didn't think about before.
Oh gosh, no. No, no.
How did you get through customs?You know, the token black guys

(01:20:41):
got to get through, you know? So we know next year the baggers
are going to go race in Moto GP.6 races, one here in the US and
five in Europe. Do you think it would have been
better if baggers went to World Super Bike instead of Moto GP?
Just thinking about what baggershave done here in the US with

(01:21:01):
more stock type racing versus prototype racing.
You know, I understand they're going to see get a bigger
audience in GP, but I think theywould bring audience to World
Super Bike that doesn't necessarily go to World Super
Bike versus Moto GP. Guys, they're still going to
sell out A100150160 thousand seats.
You know, are they going to sell168,000 seats just because

(01:21:24):
baggers are there? Like I, you know, I don't see
the numbers that we see here. When you see the 20 or 30%
higher attendance when baggers come, I don't see that equating
to Moto GP. If if Moto GP this weekend was
in Malaysia and they had 190,000people, I don't think they're
going to have 227,000 people versus if they were at World

(01:21:46):
Super Bike and they had 80,000 people, there is a possibility
they could have 110,000 people. And I'd like to add, why did
they get rid of Moto E to put the baggers in?
Because more gas, more oil. They missed the oil man, they
missed the oil leaks, they missed the blow motors.
Because Moto E had believe 6 rounds.

(01:22:11):
I mean, I, I honestly think thatit would have been, you know,
going the world super bike because you know, it, it's going
to bring in attendance, right. You know, it's bringing the
attendance into Moto America. It it's it brought that
attendance way up. So I think if it went the world
super bike, like you said, like Lewis said, you know, with a
stock bike versus a prototype, you know it, it just seems a lot

(01:22:33):
better. I mean, you can't really boost
up Moto GP, but the only thing Ican see them doing is because
you're going to get more eyes onit, you know, more developers on
it where they can actually kind of branch off and maybe put an
into, you know, world super bikeor do something else or more
teams of that of that kind or that caliber can come into play

(01:22:56):
and, and want to actually try itbecause it is something that is,
is, is, you know, working. Yeah, it's a hell of a lot of
money. I mean, it's like, I think it
was like $1.5 million just to build one of them damn things.
That's gonna yeah, you know, it,it, it, it's pretty crazy bags.
Fuck. Say again.

(01:23:18):
I'd say flock. That's a.
That's a that's just empty bags.I'm kidding, but you know, it's
just like, damn and. And is, is, is that a situation
where the fans are requesting itHarley signing the big check?
Because I mean it, it's it's pretty impressive.
I mean to see we already said it's pretty impressive to what

(01:23:40):
we've seen happen in Motor America with the turn out it
it's been and to leapfrog to Moto GP and not World Super Bike
or some of these other and maybeor maybe we may see it down the
road in the future. Never know, you might.
Well, the test was really last year's Moto GP to this year's
Moto GP and the test was in the paddock here at CODA.

(01:24:02):
You know, they saw how many attendees they had last or in
2024 when they had the baggers versus 2025 when they didn't
have the baggers. And that was a test that was a
litmus test. Does this bring fans?
2024 they had Harley-Davidson there.
Harley-Davidson invested heavily.
We had a huge attendance at CODAthis year.

(01:24:22):
They didn't have the baggers. Harley didn't attend.
And you saw that the I mean, youweren't there both years, but I
was and the attendance was significantly down from the year
before when the baggers were there.
So that was kind of the litmus test for Moto GP to see the
amount of people that kind of rally around this, you know,
this what looks like a sideshow,but it is a a legitimate form of

(01:24:43):
racing. Like these guys are legitimate
races. These bikes are crazy fast.
And I think in Europe when they see £800 bagger going 1/2 a
second slower than a Moto 2 bikeit might be a little bit eye
opening to some of these guys. Oh yeah, I'd be, that'd be
interesting to see. I don't know if we've ever
compared on the show the times on Moto 2.

(01:25:04):
I know we talked about super sport in America and stuff like
that. I mean, granted, I guess Koda
would be the only track that we could kind of use as a, as a, as
a good barometer since we're notracing over in any of the tracks
in in the rest of the world and stuff like that.
I lost my train of thought with that guys.
Anything you want to add and andwe'll we'll.

(01:25:25):
Teach that. I had something good.
I was just saying the the the bag is keeping up with the Super
sports. They had Carol I'm in doing a
time with I forget someone on a super sport and they were I
think he did faster time than them.
And it's just crazy what the bagis can do.
And I mean, people don't know that a car, they can do that.

(01:25:49):
Right, but I'll I'll say this, the what the baggers bring to
the sport and I seen it on Sunday at Jersey's round.
That's when we were, you know, packing.
They're actually like how racingwas back in the day like crazy
while like they were in the paddock, literally, you know,
they won and they're in the paddock late at night doing

(01:26:11):
burnout, blowing tires, drinkinga beer with one hand and hold.
I'm like these these nuts and they're just they're living it
up. But that's what racing is.
It's about fun. It's about the whole team having
fun. You celebrate as a team, but it
will Harley, will Harley invested in their racing.
It's just like it's insane amount of money.

(01:26:33):
It's insane. Like we just got money to throw
at this. They're doing burnouts.
You guys are measuring the leftover oil?
Pretty much leftover oil, like what can we do for next year?
Like this is they're out there having fun.
So it is this is something. They're bringing fun back to the

(01:26:53):
paddock. So that's what it is.
A real quick search at Koda baggers are about 5 seconds a
lap slower than Moto 2 bikes andone second a lap faster than
Moto 3 bikes. So they're right in that sweet
spot between a single cylinder and a four-cylinder A3 cylinder.
So they're right there where A2 cylinder should be.

(01:27:15):
And listen, with that said, giveme a skinny girl every day, all
day, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I'd rather. I'd rather crash in a motor 3
bike then I'm a bagger. Is it a bagger?
Boy? Jesus Christ, that's going to
hurt. I, I will say that the things I
like to see about see on the baggers is when they spin up the
rear and go sideways because they're the only they, they seem

(01:27:36):
to like they can just straightenout and keep going.
Other guys will, will high side and flip off the bike.
These guys go sideways and and that thing will straighten out.
And here's another thing to takeinto account.
The baggers were racing at Coda on Dunlops in the GP series.
From my understanding, they're supposed to be on Pirelli's so.

(01:27:58):
Is that good? Is that?
Good for two seconds, Reese. I plead the 5th.
I'm out. About to be dragging the elbows
on the baggers on Pirelli tires.I.
Think Dunlop. Time is time is ticking it it.
It it sounds like it. And if more people get their say

(01:28:20):
or get overseas to get on on these Pirellis that seem to get
all the the the spider man, the spider man Pirellis, you know,
it's going to be a beautiful thing.
It's great. And we'll talk about this and
wrap up because we're kind of going over to a little bit.
But yeah, I'll leave that for another time.
The tire, the tire war and and how much of a difference would

(01:28:41):
make in the sport if we could all be on the same playing
field. My name is Rex 45.
It's the Be Forever Cool podcast.
I want to thank TJ from 2 Wheelsand Coffee Reese from Attack
Yamaha. He got back into the country
safely. We didn't have to, you know, use
the old ways to get him back into the country and.
Stuff like that. But to have him back here on on

(01:29:01):
on the US soil, the real Lewis or Otega, the numbers guy, not
too much numbers. We got 2 races left Lewis.
So we'll we'll, we'll we'll definitely add up how things
went at the last round. Like we already know who's the
crown champion. I'll say this, though, it is
weird that, you know, with Marquez, right?
Because it feels like the last two years, these champions, you

(01:29:21):
know, Martine got hurt this year.
So he had no world tour. And then a week later Mark is
out. So it's like he win the
championship, but like, there's no celebration really.
Nah. I mean, he'll he'll be walking
around, he said in Spain, but not not in his Leathers.
So it just sucks. It sucks to not be able to do
that like end of season championship kind of ride.

(01:29:45):
But I mean, hopefully he'll havea few more all.
Right there you go. And and we will talk about him
for him. So that way he's he's not
missing much. My name is Rex 45.
Peace. Peace, peace, peace.

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