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Welcome back to another edition of the Beef Forever Cool
podcast. My name is Rex 45.
We got the real Luis Ortega in the building.
We got Cheetah 747. What's going on fellas?
How you doing tonight Cheetah? Good man, another day, another
dollar. That's how I'm thinking today.
It was a it was a good, good weekend, man.
I was busy all week. So you know, it's just been in
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that mode of go, go, go. It was fun to catch up on the
races, man, over the weekend definitely.
That's what's up. I hate you about being busy.
I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.
How about yourself, Lewis, man? Same here man, busy busy
weekend. But it was it was a good time.
I got a lot of done, got to see some some good racing this
weekend. Moto GP, Moto 2, Moto 3, Moto
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America. So good balance of work and
play. Nice, I like that.
Same here and well, let's jump into it.
Let's talk about qualifying and Moto GP before qualifying.
A lot of crashes. Marquez, you know, jacked
himself up a couple of times. Some riders went down there.
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What are your thoughts on the 12guys in qualifying and it is it
safe to say that Quatarara mightget a lot more polls before the
the year's over? Dude, he's got a lot of those
Tisel watches, doesn't he? Like at this point so.
For. Sure, so once again, he mean
he's showing that he's he's definitely deserves that seat on
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Yamaha more than anyone. He's he's the top dog there.
And you know, Pekko was able to get in 2nd, Alex in 3rd, but I
think what happened is, you know, you saw Mark over, you
know, I think he overthrew turn 1 going into one of those laps
and that was his last chance at at getting pole over there.
But Mark's just insane, man. I mean, we can talk about the
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race in a minute, but him going into those, the those couple
crashes he had weren't weren't easy on him, man.
He had that messed up jaw and helooking like Crimson chin.
If y'all remember Crimson chin. Yeah, but like he, he really, I
remember back in the day when hewas on I think in, in early in
the, in the in the Honda days, he had another crash like that
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on Moto 2 where he had his chin fucked up or messed up brother.
So yeah, man, it was it's it's crazy to see people push through
that. But that just goes to show you
like sometimes we don't see those crashes and we don't see
the effects of it. But physically seeing damage on
him like that really goes to show this man really got into
battle with the ground, you know, like he really tossed and
tumbled. And it's like fighting, man,
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You, you don't see that until you see physical damage.
Sometimes you don't realize. So yeah, it was intense.
Yeah. What are your thoughts, Louis?
It was good. I mean, the first, the first
free practice, I had to go back and like watch it a couple of
times, 'cause I was like, did nobody go out?
Why is Raul Fernandez like I'm the one of the fastest guys?
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And then I kind of realized, oh,OK, it's it kind of everything
balanced out. I think Quattaro's got at least
three more poles in him. Just knowing the tracks that are
coming and what he can do with some of those tracks.
It just sucks that the bike doesn't have the race pace to do
that for a race distance. You know, you can pull out, like
we've said it before, you can pull out a magic lap out of your
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ass and get an incredible pole and get a nice watch.
But I'm sure he'd trade in all those watches if you can stand
on that top step, man. And you can't stand on the top
step if you're riding at 150% ofwhat the bike is even capable of
doing, you know? Do you guys think that V4 motor
for Yamaha is the way to go? They've tested it already, you
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know, you have an idea why you think the hold up is for them
not using that engine and rolling it out because this
can't feel good for Quatuara being able to get on pole and
just can't, you know, fight during the race.
Yeah. I mean, we could sit here and
guess, I mean we're no one has that insider knowledge I would
say to say what exactly is holding them up.
But if it's if it looks like testing is going well for them,
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I mean, I would hope to see it sometime before the end of the
season. But you know, so we've talked
about this before it they may not bring it out till next
season and may just bring it in maybe a wild card situation or
like maybe testing situations only.
So I mean, but hopefully he getswhat he needs because he's a,
he's a top dog for sure, and a true and a true top writer.
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Yeah, I think in the in the class, I think him and Mark are
the leaders of the class in Holein Talent.
I think Quadraro and Mark can out talent everybody else in the
entire field. It's Mark is in, it's in a
better position because he's in a better bike.
And Cuatraro is in Mark's old position when Mark was on an
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inferior bike. He's trying to out ride the
limitations of the bike. And unfortunately you you can't
do that all the time. You can get away with it here
and there. I mean, even Mark had a few
glimmers of brilliance on the Honda in the last couple of
years. But, you know, the same with
Coderaro, He's had a few glimmers of brilliance.
But you can't sustain that when you have to ride outside your
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skin and hope that the bike can kind of do what you're asking it
to do, which it can't, you know,it just can't.
It's, you know, they need something because I don't see
Coderaro staying with Yamaha much longer if his career is
going to be visiting a lot of Kitty litter at countries all
around the world. Like he's too damn good for
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that. And another company will come
along and and be like, hey, we got this little Brinks truck
over here. Just jump inside and grab as
much as you want. And by the way, our bikes better
than Yamaha's. Right.
You know, what are you, what areyour guys thoughts on Bagnaya?
You know, he qualified 2IN in Q2, may qualify in second
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position and in front and he's the first Ducati.
Did you guys think that, OK, this might be the track we're
about Bagnaya might come out on top just based on seeing what he
did in Q2 or you just figured hegot he got lucky?
I mean, I think he I think he was showing himself out like we
spoke about, like Lewis said, anyone can do one lap a solid on
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softs. He did the same thing in
Mugello. Whole time he was having trouble
in in practice and in free practice.
And then he goes into quality and suddenly everything feels
fine and he's got that soft on the bike and suddenly it's
working like that. But come race time, it goes back
to normal. What I think is I was hoping for
a good Sprint situation. He did perform better in the
race. Hopefully he didn't finish the
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Sprint and go straight to a tattoo parlor to get that tattoo
removed. But he did wait it out till
Sunday at least to see how he did.
So I mean, we got more to see. Let's see how Saxon Ring goes
'cause that's I think that's next, right?
We're going to Germany. So we'll see.
Yeah. And I mean in qualifying, if you
look, I think it was the top 11 or the top 12 were all within
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one second of each other and some of them were within like
less than a 10th of each other. So there was a lot of stacked
talent in the front. But again, this is that one lap.
Put the qualifying tires on the stickiest rubber that I can get,
go out there with the lightest fuel load and try to RIP, you
know, 3 fast laps and see which of those laps gets me somewhere.
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Again, that's not a true race condition.
I mean that gets you in the bestposition to be competitive when
the race hits because you don't want to start from the 5th row
and try to get through, especially on this track.
This track is very narrow and has a lot of fast, narrow turns.
So there's not a lot of great positions where you going to
outbreak somebody without doing some kamikaze.
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So it did help him, but then once the race pace hit and now
you had to do this kind of race pace for a long distance, that's
when you started to see him, youknow, kind of struggle, start
falling back, try to crawl himself back a little bit.
You know, unfortunately, Alex Marquez had his incident with
with Pedro Acosta and that cost Alex that.
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And even Pedro once he kind of once the KTM kind of lost its
grip and everything, he ended upwhere he was at.
So you know, realistically Beko,I'm not going to say he got
gifted 1/3, but I think if Alex hadn't had his incident, I think
it would have been Alex and Pekko fighting for third versus
Pekko just kind of maintaining the distance between himself and
Acosta and and ending up in 3rd.Got you.
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All right. How about Bizeki?
I mean, I had him. I had him as somebody that could
have won the race, a second and a third place, pretty impressive
for Aprilia and in in the main race.
I mean, you know, he was right there with Mark.
He couldn't get around them. But I mean, I, I think this is
the first rider that we've seen put pressure on Mark the last
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three laps of a of a race. Yeah, for sure.
I think I didn't expect that at all come in, especially in the
Sprint the way he did. I mean, for those few laps, I
just sat there thinking like, ishe going to pass Alex and Mark
right now with the pace he's bringing?
It was really fast, man. And all of a sudden somewhere in
the Sprint, it evened out it even back out and he stayed in
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in that steady 3rd that he finished in.
And even in the race man, I mean, he just has that extra
gear in this at this track or something.
But that Aprilia seems to be coming together for him.
And I mean, I wouldn't have bet who would have finished in
second. Was it Alex or Bez for the race
if Alex hadn't gone down. That's how that's how good with
Bez was riding there. So very impressive by him.
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Got you. And I mean, I think Alex was in
fourth place fighting for fifth with Pekko when he went down.
So he was kind of backsliding a little bit.
But go ahead, Lewis. Yeah, Marco Buzzacki put on a
great show both in the Sprint and in the race.
In the Sprint, he definitely again, truncated race.
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So you get to burn your tires a little more.
So you don't really have to conserve, you don't have to
really pace yourself. You can just go full throttle
because you only have half the distance and you know that if
you manage the tires, you can go20 plus laps.
And if I don't manage the tire, who cares?
I only have 11 laps. Let me burn the the, you know,
the rubber to the steel threads and see what I can do.
He had great pace. He got close to the two guys in
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the front and then it kind of just, you know, settled into
that. I can't really get them.
They're pushing. I'm pushing.
I'd rather bring it home on the box than in a box.
So let me just stay with third. And then on Saturday he had
really great pace. He got past a lot of guys like
he did. You know, he didn't have as many
guys to get through. Like he didn't start from 18th
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place to finish 5th. So that was good for him.
But the one thing that did happen in that race that
hopefully now will shut all these sofa mutants up is when he
got behind Mark, Mark managed him from the front.
And all these people that are saying that all Alex just sits
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behind his brother. Alex doesn't try to pass him.
Alex isn't trying to be. It's not that you got a guy
that's a beast in front of you. Catching Mark and passing Mark
are two different animals. And as the tires go down,
passing him becomes even harder because if you looked at the
race, you can see the slinky effect.
Mark knew where he was slower, so he would gap him where he was
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faster. He knew he was going to lose
that gap where he was slower, and then he would gap him again
where he was faster. Like coming out of that.
Yeah. Coming out of that last chicane
to come on a front straightaway,Bazecki look like, oh, he's
about to make a lunge. And then coming out of that
marks like 10 bike lens in frontof like, dude, how did you get
10 bike lens in a kink? You're supposed to go slower.
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Yeah, and he he pass Pekko in that corner and Acosta I
believe. And and Mark, again, this guy is
so intelligent. Not only is he talented, he
literally was like, I know how fast Bazecki is in that corner.
So that means he's studied everybody's data.
He's seen where everybody has strengths and weaknesses and
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understands every opponent's strengths and weaknesses.
And when it's time to race and he knows who's behind him, he
somehow goes in his memory and is like, all right, I know
they're fast and turn 11/12/13. I know they struggle here and
struggle there. I'm faster here if there.
I don't need to look back. I can manage this just by
looking on my board and see whatthe time is and understanding
what I need to do to maintain them there.
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And the dude's a beast, man. So for everybody that thinks
that Mark's just letting him win, like nobody lets anybody
win. If you understood how much money
is at stake between 2nd place and 1st place, you would you
would just shut your mouth, man.It's ridiculous.
And I would say I I was going tosay that that you know what,
what want him to raise his intelligence or just his ability
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to ride the bike. And you kind of answer that,
Which is it? I think I to me is his
intelligent in this this weekendbecause he wasn't the fastest
guy this weekend and he didn't get the best start.
He didn't get a bad start, but he didn't start out in first
place, but he figured out how toget there.
And once he was there, he he just used the smarts to manage
that. And Peko was good at doing that
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last year. But unfortunately this year's a
little bit story. What are your thoughts on Raul
Fernandez? I mean, I, I, I still think this
could be a digi in 2020. What one and two where he saved
his career because Raul is riding at Aprilia.
Really nice too. Yeah, yeah, something happened
in the Sprint, right where they they climb, Morbideli and him
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clashed. I know Olivera, Olivera girls.
There it was. I think it was Olivera on the on
the in the I got to look. I got to look at.
This no Fernandez. No, no, it was Fernandez and.
More fidelity touched him. And was it Morbidel I think?
It was just like Morbideli man again.
And it it was, yeah. Because he went down.
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Oh, because yeah, he went down in his Sprint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, so that happened, but yeah,
I mean, he's looking pretty good.
I mean, right, there's only a few few Aprilia's to compare to
right at this point. But it's it's them too right now
because Aya Guru was kind of doing all right until he broke
his his leg. So, I mean, you know, it it.
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So yeah. So those are the 2.
And it looks like Bazecki's the Reference.
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I don't have much to say
about that. But I mean, I think he may or
may not have that shot at next year again with with Aprilia, I
don't know because it's it's going to go year by year for him
at this point. Yeah, yeah.
Well, he has a two year contractstill so.
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Oh, it goes still 27 for 26. The 26 he he has to renew for 27
or find a new job, but if his teammate is still Algura and he
keeps performing Algura, then you know you kind of do secure
your job at that point as long as you're better than your
teammate. You know, very few teams get rid
of the number one rider on the team, even if they're not at the
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top level. But a top 10 for Ferraro
Fernandez is is great. You know, at least for his
career, for his confidence. Because, I mean, he started this
year and the way he was riding, it seemed like he had no
confidence in himself, in the bike and the tires and anything.
And now in the last couple of races, he started to put some
stuff together, started to qualify a little bit better.
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Isn't finding the Kitty litter as much without Morbidelli's
help or somebody else's help Warren Bedelli loves.
He should put a patch on his back.
Says this way to the Kitty litter because he's going to put
you in the rocks. Was it, I forget, was it the
Sprint race or the main race? He had the long lap penalty.
Main race. Main race.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't it.
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Was him and Digi right? Yeah, him and DG.
When he got that, yeah. And he was like, they weren't
let. I remember the commentators
being like, yo, let him go by, man.
Like pretty much being like, yo,you're not letting him by.
Go do the long lap. And he again.
There is a big difference in paybetween one spot and the other.
Every spot you have is a little bit more coin in your pocket
and, and and this is not my job to let you go by me.
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Right. But I think for for Mobidelli,
if he was smarter and we've seen, I think Lorenzo and
Marquez do this, oh, Marquez do this last year, he should have
let him go. He should he should have let him
go because he had no space between the guys behind him that
it wouldn't have mattered. But he had a chance to at least
finish in front of Digi instead of doing that long life penalty
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because he just had to just fallback a position.
And oh, I think I'll lose a second, I think.
Yeah, yeah, he only lost one. I mean, going through that
particular long lap, I think it adds like 1.8 seconds if you do
it like spot on. And if you look at the way he
did it, he did it spot on and itdropped him back like maybe a
second, you know, and he finished in that same spot.
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It's not like he went any further back because there was
such a big gap from that spot. So, you know, but again, it's,
it's sometimes it's the finding mentality.
Like, I don't want to let anybody go by, especially my
teammate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go ahead. No, I think it was just, I think
it was combined the fact with the LLP, the long life penalty
right there in that lap while they were saying that.
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Other than that, yeah, Lewis is right.
You don't let somebody by just because you're a teammate or you
know they can have a chance of doing anything points wise or.
If you guys want to see the Formula One movie.
Have you seen it? Yes.
My brother's son told me to see it.
In the movie that Brad Pitt and his teammate are going neck and
neck and they end up crashing. And he said and he's like, you
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know, the teammate came over waslike, oh, you didn't let me
pass. He's like, it's not my job.
I don't let anybody pass. A teammate or not, I don't let
anybody pass. You got to earn your pass.
And same thing, man. In racing, you know, unless you
have a mechanical issue or something where you can cause
yourself injury or somebody elseinjury, you do everything you
can to keep the guy behind you. It's going to be tough because I
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think MOBA Deli's he's definitely shooting himself in
the foot like every round he gets like, you know, one step
forward and two step backwards with these action and and
hopefully he'll sort and and this carried over from last year
too. So I can't at least this year's
a little bit better. But he just he seems to get into
weird situation. Let's talk about Yamaha with
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Olivera, because he he had went off in in in the race.
This guy has so much bad luck bythat.
Like he can't even finish our our weekend.
Yeah, How did Oliver go out? That's with iagura.
Yeah. Right, all in the beginning.
Right, that's with that was withIagura.
Yeah, man, that's unfortunate for him.
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What can you do? I mean, right.
I mean, I don't even know what to say for that.
Agora clashed him. Did Algora didn't go down though
right? Yeah, he went down.
He went down. Olivera stayed up.
No, he went down too. He was out.
Olivier was out. Mayor was out.
Al Diguer was out, Alex and Salvadari.
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Yeah, Al Diguer went out in thathigh side later, but yeah, I
forget how Oliver went down, butit's unfortunate, man.
Like, what can you do? It was getting really crazy in
the in that that track had some weird stuff going on even in the
beginning, right? Like they were saying it was
cold and hot temperatures or something weird with the
temperature. We saw the high sides, like the
rear would come around, but thenthe front look like it was
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having a lot of chatter with thegirls crash.
I remember that. And that's just like a sign
chatter, the sign of too much grip.
So I don't know what that what that means when that when that
happens at that those kinds of tracks, they couldn't get that
doubt in. And then all of a sudden, of
course, that's the biggest challenge of of GP.
That's what that's why it's so interesting to see like we see
the winners and the losers, but they've had to battle in there
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within their own challenges. So much like they have to battle
with tire pressures, everything going on with the body, the the
physical changes, the characteristics, when
temperature changes, the tire changes.
Mark is just able to deal with that in such a deadly way that
he knows every strategy, everything in the book and he
knows mental games. So I mean, it's just wild, man.
It's a fun game to watch. I I love this thing.
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I think I got sidetracked on that one.
No worries, we're talking about I I agree.
I agree Oliver is misstep, but Imight as well add Lewis.
I mean, Jack Miller is looking pretty good.
I mean, you know, if there's a guy that you, you know, trying
to save a seat, this is, this isanother guy that's he's like the
second Yamaha right now. Yeah, he's the second Yamaha,
but I I think it's a little, I think it's a little too little,
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a little too late for him. I got again, I still believe in
my heart of hearts that his future lies outside of Moto GPI
mean he still might get a ride in Moto GP for next year.
But you know, as, as an actual fan of Jack Miller's, I would
prefer to see him on a competitive bike and road super
bike versus racing for 14th or 15th place in Moto GP.
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You know, I, I don't think as a competitor, you wake up every
Sunday, put on that helmet and be like, I can't wait to come in
14th place, you know, because mybike sucks and this sucks.
And you know, and I got, you know, guys that are 14 years
younger than me finishing seven spots ahead of me.
And you know, like I think it, you know, if he I don't know
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what his management is thinking,if he gets another opportunity
to stay in GP and if it's for more than a year, I would take
it. If it's an opportunity to stay
in GP and it's only a one year contract, but you can get
yourself A2 year contract in world super bike, go to world
super bike man. Like he's again, he's a super
talented rider and he's a fan favorite fans all over the world
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like this guy. That dude is super personable.
He loves to be in the crowd. He loves to entertain the
audience, so give him an opportunity to go to World Super
Bike, where the paddock is a little bit less restrictive than
the GP paddock. It's a little bit more of a
family environment and where he can kind of just be himself, be
natural, enjoy himself and try to fight again for that podium
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spot, man. Because you're not going to do
it on the Yamaha at least, right?
Not right now. If Cuadraro can't do it on a
routine basis, you're not going to do it.
Yeah, I, I can see that. Let's talk about KTM because
Acosta man and Vinales as you, as you mentioned earlier between
Alex and and Acosta, like Acosta's looking really good on
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that. KTM, even though they're
struggling towards the end of, of, of the race.
You guys think that, you know, we can see the KTM starting to
stay closer to the top 6? Yeah, for sure.
I think Acosta is looking reallystrong now, but I mean it again,
I, I feel like it, it comes and goes for him in the beginning,
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it was there in the beginning ofthe season and then now it's
coming back a little bit. But I mean, I it's, it's, it's
almost like what would these guys do on a solid bike, right?
KTM is coming back, but it's like man, it's the bikes
probably hold them back. And I think we're all holding
our breath till 2027 where all these manufacturers get that
good reset and get some good tires on their bikes, you know,
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like some Pirellis and, and really see how this this takes
off. But yeah, man, Acosta is looking
solid. Vinales is looking good.
You know, he's staying consistent in that top six top
7. So I mean they're, they're doing
KTM good service right now for sure.
I think Mark Marquez said it best in in the press conference.
You got to respect all the otherriders.
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Every every last one of them is trying to win.
Everyone, every last one was trying to win.
But here's the thing about KTM, man, it's like they they are
trying so many different things out to reduce those issues had
they're having. I wonder if they're ever going
to settle down on a certain setup because every track is a
different setup. They're always trying and
testing new things. Every bike looks different.
If you look at the practice videos where they're showing the
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bike's tail and everything like that, they got different fins
and everything. So it's like, man, I, I wonder
if they're ever going to settle down and maybe trust one of
those two riders between Vinalesor Acosta and be like, you know,
this guy's going in the right direction.
Let's listen to him a little more.
I don't know. I think that's what I think.
That's what I heard they're saying after the the last couple
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of rounds. They switched Pedro's setup to
Vinales's setup. OK.
Which would make sense because Vinales is is the most veteran
rider on that team that's also ridden the most equipment of
anybody on that team. Like, he's ridden everything on
two wheels that Moto GP has to offer except like, even the
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scooters in the paddock. Like, he's been on Yamaha, he's
been on Suzuki, He's been on everything, you know, So at
this. Yeah, previous.
So at this point, like, he is the guy you should be listening
to. And KTM definitely needs to stop
throwing so many things at the wall and hoping something
sticks. Like, hey, you got Vinales.
Yeah, he's a little bit of a head case sometimes, but the
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dude is fast. The dude's been on fast bikes
and he's won on fast bikes. And if anybody you're going to
listen to, that's the guy you should, you know, be the guy to
listen to. I wouldn't listen to Bender
because Bender is going backwards.
Bastionini. Is looking good.
Bastionini is is is outperforming with Bender this
week. So, you know, those two guys can
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battle it out in the teens, but if there's a guy that's
consistently in the top ten, like Vinales, follow that path.
Stop throwing so many things at the wall.
Try to narrow the focus down. Let's see what happens if we
give Vinales a set up to everybody and then work off of
that set up to keep developing the bike.
Don't try to every weekend come with a new tail section, a new
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arrow package in the front and you this and you like stop it,
man. Like you're you're killing time
and your guys are just going around burning tires and gas.
Last but not least, Honda. I mean, I was, you know, I was
on that Zarco train, man, I was on that Zarco train.
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And like even he's, you know, back to backgrounds.
He's struggling in mayor. It looks like he didn't finish
either race. I mean like that, that, that
can't feel good. No, definitely not.
Man, I'm surprised Chantra finished behind him because he
was in front of him at one pointin the race or the Sprint.
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I remember, forget where. But yeah, it's not looking good.
I don't know, man. I mean, maybe maybe it's just
like they had certain tracks favor them.
We've I think we've talked aboutthis, right?
Like the speed, the top speed isstill a thing, right?
So I don't know, man, it's, I think it'll come.
Their time is coming. I think a lot of different
manufacturers going to have a the great reset.
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And I keep saying that, but you know, me and a couple buddies
this morning, we were even talking about this about we were
talking about where is the Ducati going as Ducati going to
dominate. We were talking about Honda's
going to pull out the money, right?
They're going to pull out the money for for for for Martine
because Honda has the money, butthey're in this position where
they don't have to do that right?
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They're still going to get this reefs reset.
They're going to get the tire reset.
And at the end of the day, Martin Martin on this, that's a
whole another story. By the way, he's lost some
stock, he's lost value there. Who knows if you'll even get to
get out of that contract, but we'll see because I apparently
he didn't meet that clause that that allows him to do that so.
Only had one yeah I I can't see how because he only had one
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race, right you know, but you know, and I can't imagine that
Aprilia would would have it justone way I.
Don't think so, no. I mean, I did want to keep that
rider, but then you got this badenergy that you're going to put
him back on the bike. And I mean, the latest thing was
he's he's declared unfit again for Saxon Ring.
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So is he getting fake doctor's notes out here man?
Maybe. I, I, you know, I would claim
PTSD, man. I mean, I, I think he has some
trauma from Ducati not signing him to the factory seat.
He's, he's, he's gone crazy, youknow, because he's, you know,
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from the, from us looking at it or from myself looking at it, it
looks like he's hurt. He's really hurting himself.
No one else? Yeah.
Yeah, thoughts on KTM? I mean Honda and, and you know
his Martine, you know. Honda is sad because they've
they've, they've shown the same thing, glimmers of brilliance
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here and there. Zarko has shown some glimmers.
Even the last round or two, likeNear has been a little bit more
consistent. I mean, Marini's the only one
that is really the most inconsistent.
You know, he just can't finish races and then he's been injured
and everything else is going on.Like Marini is the one that's
most at risk. I know Honda is struggling to
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find that path that'll work at every track.
So maybe this particular track just wasn't a Honda track.
You know, it didn't really benefit the strengths of the
current model Honda. But we're going to Saxon Ring
next. We'll see what happens there.
I think Saxon Ring is going to be actually a good track for
Yamaha because you don't have a lot of long straightaways.
You have a lot of fast sweeping turns.
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This is where the Yamaha excels.And you know, the the one thing
that sets the Yamaha, the Ducatiapart is the stability of the
breaking of the Ducati always seems to outperform the Yamaha.
But again, I think this next track is going to be a Yamaha
track and maybe Honda can be at least in the top ten with
somebody. I mean this weekend they didn't
have anybody in the top 10, which is, you know, sad in the
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race that Nazi a Honda in the top 10.
But at least we still had a goodmix.
You know, that's like I've always said, I like the mix.
I want to see Aprilia, I want tosee KTMI, want to see Ducati.
And that's what we got this weekend.
We got a bunch of different manufacturers all up in the top
five, which is great to see. You know, it wasn't a Ducati
lockout in the top four or five and.
Let's and let's just talk about the overall race and then in in
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general as you, as you mentionedthat because it, you know, it
was one of the more competitive races for the top, you know,
eight guys. Yeah, I know for sure this, this
this past weekend, the top 7-8 guys.
I mean, I wanted to be a little bit more competitive, a little
bit longer. I think when we got to lap 13 is
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when all of a sudden, like the train broke apart and 4th and
5th really drifted further back,and then 6th and then after that
it just became like a, you know,a long parade.
Managing the gap. Yeah, but for the first, I want
to say 8-9 laps. I mean, you had a serious
freight train of like 8 or 9 bikes that were all within like
a second of each other. And again, it's this track kind
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of induces that because of the way the tracks laid out.
But it also causes a problem because it makes it really
difficult to pass. And you saw people making
questionable passes in questionable areas.
And that's how Alex Marquez ended up in the Kitty litter
because that's not a great placeto pass.
Everybody's battling for this credit card with spot, with
bikes that are wider than the credit card.
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And you're going to get contact.And unfortunately, you know, it
looks like what happened is his brake lever got contacted,
locked up the front brake, the tire went down.
And, you know, we'll see what his injury is going to be.
They're saying is that some people are saying it's a pinky,
other people are saying it's thepalm.
Either way, I hope he can get back on board soon because the
last thing you want to do is give Mark 2 races to get maybe
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50 points on you. No.
Or more with the Sprint. Right, right, right.
I, I saw somewhere where, you know, they're talking about Alex
doesn't try to make those kind of passes on Mark compared to
other writers. He felt in the in that moment,
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Alex probably should have, you know, not try to ride around
Acosta. Around Acosta, that was that
was, that was such a tough section, man.
It's like where the track goes, you're leaned left and you're
about to flick back right. It's it's kind of like a
straightaway, but it's leaning that way right.
And there's that little rumble strip that everyone tries to get
right real close to going right.And we're all trying to get
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through that one little credit card patch.
Almost like Lewis said of like 4feet wide.
It's really you're trying to fit2 bikes in that section and and
no one wants to let off because the next corner you're breaking
into from a straight line right in almost.
So everyone wants to get that that section and it was just
aggressive. It was almost unfortunate that
that happened. Maybe the the brake guard lever
wasn't positioned correctly for the lean angle they were at
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where it touched. Maybe it flicked up, maybe it
was loose, who knows. But yeah, it was just a weird,
weird crash is what I thought when I saw it.
I was like man, I know his frontdidn't lock up for no reason.
I knew it was a brake lever crash but.
When I yeah, when I saw, I thought the front wheel came off
the ground and and grabbed a brake and locked up and came
down and went out. But when they did the replay,
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it's kind of like from overhead.It's possible that Acosta could
have touched the the the brake lever.
There's one video from Acosta's onboard camera that is.
It is probably the clearest video where you can see that
marks Alex's right hand handlebar hit either Acosta's
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elbow or Acosta's arm and and 'cause that lock like it's it's
on board video from the KTM. That's the clearest video where
you can see the hand where it makes contact with his arm or
something or his elbow. But either way, man, it's it's
you know, it sucks because again, this track is super
narrow. Alex had the inside line when
they were going through the leftand he thought that Acosta was
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going to give up the inside lineto the right and Acosta wasn't
giving up the inside line to theright.
And you know, again, two guys fighting.
It's just a racing incident. Two guys fighting for the same
real estate and it happens. You know, I don't, I don't, I'm
glad that the Stewart's didn't try to penalize Acosta or
anything because it again, that's a race incident, man.
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That, you know, it's, it wasn't AT bone.
It wasn't anything like that. It's just two guys battling for
that spot. And you don't want to discourage
guys from doing that because then it's going to become
really, really boring where you can't touch anybody.
At that point, I'll just start watching the NBA again.
Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Oh. Man, let's not.
Let's jump into Moto 2. Diego Marrera, the first
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Brazilian they're saying, but isn't Frankie sort of half
Brazilian, but to to win the Moto 2 race?
Pretty impressive. Aaron Connett blames it on a
crackle windshield. I don't know if he's any either.
You guys saw the replay that thethe windshield just cracked on
its own on the straightaway and just caused them to lose some
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tents and caused them to race. I mean, Aaron Connett has, he's
missed the second place. Well, I didn't get a chance to
catch that race, but I'll let I'll let Lewis go.
No, I, it, I know there was somedamage to his windshield.
I don't know exactly how it happened or when it happened.
I did see that there was damage to his windshield.
I actually thought it was eitherdebris or something or him
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getting mad and punching the windshield because he's done
that more than a few times. Get a better windshield man.
What can I tell you? That's what you got a visor on
your helmet for. Tuck in and and do what you
gotta do. You don't lose that many tents.
That's what he's saying. He's saying that you messed up.
I mean, and then, you know, theygot their lap timers on board.
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They can tell the aerodynamics have it just a little bit.
But it was a very close race allthe way through and I mean
connect right led the race for the whole part I I again, I feel
bad for that guy because like, you know, if it's the windshield
or just getting bullied out the way, you know, and and he was
talking trash to Diego from the because of the previous weekend.
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And so, you know, he takes the Lto Diego.
So that can't feel good. If you've been talking trash,
man, you can't you know, you, you got to you got to be Michael
Jordan or keep him up. Shut.
Yeah, I I think you should for every time he talks trash and
loses, he should remove one tattoo.
And I see how how much of A clear skin he gets because he
does like to talk a lot of trash, but you know, sometimes
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he backs it up, but sometimes hedoesn't.
Yeah. Can I, can I just say this
though, on a separate subject, just thinking about all this
we've been talking about, I mean, I partly probably due to
the podcast too in some ways, but like, I feel like Liberty
Media is doing a phenomenal job right now with with Moto GP and
just you constantly see record crowds everywhere, right?
We're seeing that. And that has to be a result of
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their marketing genius on Instagram, on social media
platform, just pushing certain, you know, we've, we're seeing
certain celebrations, certain interviews, certain styles
they're introducing to this yearthat they had never had before
they owned it. I feel like it's almost
trickling down to Moto America too in some ways.
You know, there's getting more interest there to watch that and
it's just it's a it's a it's a good thing to have racing almost
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coming back alive to where now they're breaking records.
We were at one point talking about, man, are we going to is
racing dying? Are we going to lose viewership?
You know, so that's it's just, Ijust want to say that, man, I
was. It's definitely good to see
that. I agree over 200,000 people came
out for the weekend in which they're pretty impressive.
And yeah, Liberty Media Group I think is doing a phenomenal job
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Their, their stock is just $95 today.
So people are liking what they're doing.
Formula One, I think there's this past weekend as well, you
know, which is, which is pretty dope because you know, from the
outside, you know, when, when companies and things get we, you
know, we see this, we, we're seeing it now with the Lakers
and The Mavericks and their changes that are, that are
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happening in basketball. Just to talk about basketball a
little bit. Sometimes you don't know what,
what's going to happen when you owners come in and they and they
get the majority and they get tosay if they're going to make it
as entertaining as possible or is it going to get dry?
And, and so far it, it's, it's been pretty wild.
So I, I can't wait, you know, can't wait to see what else they
do. Oh, for sure.
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I, I, I think overall, I don't, you know, I don't know if it's a
mix of social media, if it's a mix of like some of the, some of
the new content that's come out in the last couple of years.
You know, if it's, you know, seeMarquez kind of revitalize his
career after that Amazon Prime show that came on about, you
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know, what happened to him. I think Liberty Media did the
same thing with Formula One. Like, you know, they created a
whole new type of content. They put it on on different
platforms so that people don't just watch the race.
People understand the lives and everything that goes behind the
curtain because that's where we have a disconnect in motorcycle
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racing is somebody will watch motorcycle racing and any
racing, but you can't connect tothe people inside the helmets.
You know, you're not as invested.
And if you look at the people that are invested in motorcycle
racing, they're either invested in the bikes or they're invested
in the riders or they're invested in a combination of
both and you. And to get new people into the
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sport, that's what you have to do.
And the only way you can do thatis by taking the helmets off
these guys and giving them an opportunity to have a voice.
And you also have to have the right riders because there's
certain riders that you don't want to put a microphone in
their face like they they will actually cause you to lose
customers. They just are horrible on the
mic, don't know what to say. Look up into space.
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They're guys that end and start every sentence with or so like.
And then there's other guys thathave media training that are
great speakers, that are personalities that have engaging
backstories. You know, the Marquez brothers
have engaging back story. Mark has an engaging back story
coming back from injury. Pekko has an engaging back
story. Morbidelli does.
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There's so much if if you can get that content in front of
people, people will watch it. And you know, they have a couple
of more documentaries that are coming out.
There's a Giacomo Gustini documentary that's being done
right now. And again, the more you know the
history of the sport and how thesport has evolved and you get it
out into mainstream, you put it on Netflix, you put it on
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Amazon, you put it on these platforms where millions upon
millions of people go there looking for content to consume.
They're going to come across it and they'll sit back and watch
it, and this is how we engage new people.
Right, yeah, I I completely agree and looking forward to it.
But let's talk a little bit moreabout Moto 2 and Joe Roberts.
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Look at signed into another two year deal with the American
Racing team with your guys thoughts on that is is he he do
you think it's well deserved? I mean he was riding mostly
injury injured earlier this year.
So he was just really recoveringand now he's, you know, he's
he's top six guy now. Yeah, I've heard he's doing a
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little bit better, man. It's good for him to get another
two year deal with him. I mean, he's he's when he was
injured, he was out for like a good part of the first beginning
of the season, right? Yeah.
So I mean, it's good that he's able to stay there.
And I mean, if he's happy, I don't think he's going to get a
shot at GP now at this point in his career, right.
So it's good that he got that other two year deal.
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Nice. What are your thoughts, Lewis?
Yeah, I think it's, it's great to still have an American
presence in motorcycle racing atthe top level, even if it's a
Moto 2. And you know, he's definitely,
when he's healthy, he and he's got a good team behind him.
He's he's shown that he can be competitive.
You know, this weekend he ended up top six, top 7, something
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like that. I know he was in like the top 6
the group, him and his teammate,I think they came in like either
4th, 5th or 5th, 6th, something like that.
But that's great. You know, that shows that OK, so
that's great. You know, it shows that one
they're both on now a competitive bike because they
ended up, you know, right on topof each other, 5th and 6th and
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now he's back in the top five. So that means that he is
recovering from his injury as well.
And hopefully now he can continue to notch up, notch up
and try to start steadily endingup in that top six or seven.
Because if you can stay in that top six or seven in Moto 2, even
if you stay in Moto 2, like that's great, It's visibility,
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it gives you a promise of a career there.
You're going to keep getting contract renewals.
You might get opportunities to move to an even better team at
some point. And, and again, I want to see an
American in the sport at that level.
And he's a talented guy. And, you know, I wish him the
best. I hope his he keeps healing up
from his injuries and keeps racing the way he did this
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weekend because we need people like that.
We need somebody representing, you know, the Stars and stripes
somewhere around the world. Most definitely.
And not to see it run away with the likes of Connette and
Gonzalez. Gonzalez because those two guys,
you know, for, for the, you know, past few, few rounds, they
were kind of running out there and and kind of looking like no
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one was going to be able to keep, keep up with them.
But this round a lot of other guys showed up.
Dixon showed up. Ramirez Arenas, even though he
he finished where he finished, he was looking pretty good in
the beginning of that race. So Speaking of another American,
Garrett Gerloff, he also inked A2 year deal.
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So he's staying in the world super bike for another two
years. So that's huge.
Even though he's the only he's only, he's the only one on a
Kawi over there of complete Kawi.
Oh really? He's the only one?
Say that again. He's the only one.
On what? On a.
Complete Kawi. Oh, because the other ones are
combined. Yamoda Yamoda with Kawi motors.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean that's, I think he's he's
really good fit there. I mean, if anything, maybe he's
there a tail end where he comes back to Motor America.
I don't think so. But like good for him and
another two year deal with them.You know, his his run with BMW
was done. So I mean, I think I don't think
he's going back there again, right.
So good, good, good for him and that's all I could say.
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Another two year deal locked in.It's good for him.
Yeah. Go ahead.
Yeah, same here. You know, I good to see an
American continue to keep a seatin world Super bike.
Hopefully Kawasaki actually put some money into the program next
year and and makes the bike a little bit more competitive
because it seems like this year like that hasn't been the
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program. It's kind of just been a wheel
out this old shit box and do whatever you can do and and
that's it, you know, and it sucks because you can see some
of the Bimodas are outperformingthe Kawasaki.
And I don't think it's just Garrett Gerloff being
outperformed. I think it's the bike being
outperformed. So Kawasaki definitely needs to
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do something to help him out andnot just give him a bike to go
and burn tires and gas with. Yeah, I agree.
I mean, if they're if they're trying to win something, because
it's we need more manufacturers to, to be in, in these classes
between, in between Moto GP, World Super Bike, even Motor
America and Kawi's a staple, youknow, still love to bike around
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the world. Yeah, I got a couple in my
garage. You got to love him, man.
You got to love him. I I don't dislike Cowie.
I I dislike Cowie because there was somebody I know that used to
love Cowie and I disliked him. So Cowie is just clumped up with
that guy. Collider damage.
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Every time. Liking me now, Louis?
I'm just kidding. Oh, no, no, no, no, but yeah,
but I, I hope to see Cali make acomeback because, you know, for
a long time, I mean, they were the dominant force in world
super bike and to see where theyare at now, you know, I don't
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know what the plan is long term for Kawasaki in the sport bike
market, but I, you know, I wouldlove to see them do something at
some point. Because again, we, it seems like
we're losing the interests of the Japanese manufacturers in
the high displacement bikes. You know, they keep just
Wheeling out the same old bikes year after year and changing the
paint jobs. And, you know, fortunately
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they're going to need to do something.
They're going to need to make that that bite that bullet and
and do an investment to really try to compete again in that
thousand CC range, man, or just stop making bikes then just give
it up, give give all the business to Ducati and BMW and
and that's it. There you go.
They they could have done a partnership with with with
Ducati instead. For years.
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So this, I mean, I don't know ifyou guys ever heard this, but
for years there were rumors where Suzuki and Kawasaki would
merge to build to invest in one platform that they would both
sell with different bodywork. Kind of like the way that Nissan
and Toyota and other manufacturers make the same car
but with different bodywork to split the development cost of
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developing a brand new thousand CC super bike.
Yeah, if they were halfway smart.
No, if you think when you. Said they're going to put
Kawasaki and Suzuki together. I'm like, what are they going to
call it, a Kia? No, no, no, it would.
Suzuki would still sell it as a Suzuki and Kawi would still sell
it as a Kawi, but they would both invest into the development
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cost of a new motor, a new chassis and everything else.
And then the bodywork would change.
So the same way that you know, the Infiniti Q50 and the Nissan
Maxima are the same car, just with different bodywork and
electronics, this bike would be that because that would give the
opportunity for these two manufacturers that are I mean,
Kawasaki Industries is is huge, but Kawasaki as a motorcycle
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company is smaller and Suzuki asa motorcycle company is smaller
compared to Honda and Yamaha andthis isn't.
For Yama, I mean, this isn't forMoto GP specifically you're
talking. About no, this, this would, this
is, I mean this goes back to like the 90s, early 2000s that
they would create this investment, that they would both
develop the same technology together, split the cost and
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then both benefit from this new motor, this new package.
Because then I could create my Suzuki with my frame, swing arm,
forks and everything else. You create your cow with your
and then we both use the same motor.
And on the on the consumer side,now if you think about it, it's
the same motor. So the parts are going to be
more readily available, There's going to be more parts.
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So it does benefit both of them by having a more competitive
bike that they, neither one of them has to invest, you know,
$30 million into developing an entirely new package.
And then that would also at the consumer level, maybe keep even
the cost of the bike down because each manufacturer
individually didn't invest this much to develop the power plant.
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They split the cost of developing the power plant.
I again, you know, I, I'm alwayslooking at the numbers and if
Kawasaki and Suzuki want to be competitive, this is a great way
to be competitive and have a competitive motorcycle at a
competitive price point that nobody else can touch because
you're not both individually investing millions and millions
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of dollars, you're only investing this much.
Yeah. I mean, we've seen that in cars,
right? I mean, I used to have an Eagle
talent that was ADS. That was a that was a Mitsubishi
something, something. Motors.
Because it was Chrysler, Mitsubishi and I guess Eagle was
a different guy. I don't know what that was.
But Toyota Super, right? Wow, AMC Eagle is their own spin
off for Chrysler. Well, the the the Toyota Super
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right now that's a BMWM. What is it, Z7 or Z8?
And and you know, Lotus does that what they used to do with
the Celica motor, right? They put the Celica motor in
their in their car, I think. Yeah, they just did what they do
best was which was frames and and the way they built the
motor, I mean the the frame itself.
Nobody wants to make me the CEO of Kawasaki and Suzuki so I can
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make this happen, unfortunately.No, I don't know about now, man.
Yeah, but I don't know, It couldbe good.
Be good, guys. Well, I don't thank both you
guys for coming out, man. It's the Be Forever Cool
podcast. My name is Rex 45.
Peace. Take care guys.
Take. Care.
Welcome back to another edition of the Beef Forever Cool
podcast. My name is Rex 45.
We got the real Luis Ortega in the building.
We got Cheetah 747. What's going on fellas?
How you doing tonight Cheetah? Good man, another day, another
dollar. That's how I'm thinking today.
It was a it was a good, good weekend, man.
I was busy all week. So you know, it's just been in
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that mode of go, go, go. It was fun to catch up on the
races, man, over the weekend definitely.
That's what's up. I hate you about being busy.
I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.
How about yourself, Lewis, man? Same here man, busy busy
weekend. But it was it was a good time.
I got a lot of done, got to see some some good racing this
weekend. Moto GP, Moto 2, Moto 3, Moto
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America. So good balance of work and
play. Nice, I like that.
Same here and well, let's jump into it.
Let's talk about qualifying and Moto GP before qualifying.
A lot of crashes. Marquez, you know, jacked
himself up a couple of times. Some riders went down there.
(01:04):
What are your thoughts on the 12guys in qualifying and it is it
safe to say that Quatarara mightget a lot more polls before the
the year's over? Dude, he's got a lot of those
Tisel watches, doesn't he? Like at this point so.
For. Sure, so once again, he mean
he's showing that he's he's definitely deserves that seat on
(01:24):
Yamaha more than anyone. He's he's the top dog there.
And you know, Pekko was able to get in 2nd, Alex in 3rd, but I
think what happened is, you know, you saw Mark over, you
know, I think he overthrew turn 1 going into one of those laps
and that was his last chance at at getting pole over there.
But Mark's just insane, man. I mean, we can talk about the
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race in a minute, but him going into those, the those couple
crashes he had weren't weren't easy on him, man.
He had that messed up jaw and helooking like Crimson chin.
If y'all remember Crimson chin. Yeah, but like he, he really, I
remember back in the day when hewas on I think in, in early in
the, in the in the Honda days, he had another crash like that
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on Moto 2 where he had his chin fucked up or messed up brother.
So yeah, man, it was it's it's crazy to see people push through
that. But that just goes to show you
like sometimes we don't see those crashes and we don't see
the effects of it. But physically seeing damage on
him like that really goes to show this man really got into
battle with the ground, you know, like he really tossed and
tumbled. And it's like fighting, man,
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You, you don't see that until you see physical damage.
Sometimes you don't realize. So yeah, it was intense.
Yeah. What are your thoughts, Louis?
It was good. I mean, the first, the first
free practice, I had to go back and like watch it a couple of
times, 'cause I was like, did nobody go out?
Why is Raul Fernandez like I'm the one of the fastest guys?
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And then I kind of realized, oh,OK, it's it kind of everything
balanced out. I think Quattaro's got at least
three more poles in him. Just knowing the tracks that are
coming and what he can do with some of those tracks.
It just sucks that the bike doesn't have the race pace to do
that for a race distance. You know, you can pull out, like
we've said it before, you can pull out a magic lap out of your
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ass and get an incredible pole and get a nice watch.
But I'm sure he'd trade in all those watches if you can stand
on that top step, man. And you can't stand on the top
step if you're riding at 150% ofwhat the bike is even capable of
doing, you know? Do you guys think that V4 motor
for Yamaha is the way to go? They've tested it already, you
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know, you have an idea why you think the hold up is for them
not using that engine and rolling it out because this
can't feel good for Quatuara being able to get on pole and
just can't, you know, fight during the race.
Yeah. I mean, we could sit here and
guess, I mean we're no one has that insider knowledge I would
say to say what exactly is holding them up.
But if it's if it looks like testing is going well for them,
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I mean, I would hope to see it sometime before the end of the
season. But you know, so we've talked
about this before it they may not bring it out till next
season and may just bring it in maybe a wild card situation or
like maybe testing situations only.
So I mean, but hopefully he getswhat he needs because he's a,
he's a top dog for sure, and a true and a true top writer.
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Yeah, I think in the in the class, I think him and Mark are
the leaders of the class in Holein Talent.
I think Quadraro and Mark can out talent everybody else in the
entire field. It's Mark is in, it's in a
better position because he's in a better bike.
And Cuatraro is in Mark's old position when Mark was on an
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inferior bike. He's trying to out ride the
limitations of the bike. And unfortunately you you can't
do that all the time. You can get away with it here
and there. I mean, even Mark had a few
glimmers of brilliance on the Honda in the last couple of
years. But, you know, the same with
Coderaro, He's had a few glimmers of brilliance.
But you can't sustain that when you have to ride outside your
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skin and hope that the bike can kind of do what you're asking it
to do, which it can't, you know,it just can't.
It's, you know, they need something because I don't see
Coderaro staying with Yamaha much longer if his career is
going to be visiting a lot of Kitty litter at countries all
around the world. Like he's too damn good for
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that. And another company will come
along and and be like, hey, we got this little Brinks truck
over here. Just jump inside and grab as
much as you want. And by the way, our bikes better
than Yamaha's. Right.
You know, what are you, what areyour guys thoughts on Bagnaya?
You know, he qualified 2IN in Q2, may qualify in second
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position and in front and he's the first Ducati.
Did you guys think that, OK, this might be the track we're
about Bagnaya might come out on top just based on seeing what he
did in Q2 or you just figured hegot he got lucky?
I mean, I think he I think he was showing himself out like we
spoke about, like Lewis said, anyone can do one lap a solid on
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softs. He did the same thing in
Mugello. Whole time he was having trouble
in in practice and in free practice.
And then he goes into quality and suddenly everything feels
fine and he's got that soft on the bike and suddenly it's
working like that. But come race time, it goes back
to normal. What I think is I was hoping for
a good Sprint situation. He did perform better in the
race. Hopefully he didn't finish the
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Sprint and go straight to a tattoo parlor to get that tattoo
removed. But he did wait it out till
Sunday at least to see how he did.
So I mean, we got more to see. Let's see how Saxon Ring goes
'cause that's I think that's next, right?
We're going to Germany. So we'll see.
Yeah. And I mean in qualifying, if you
look, I think it was the top 11 or the top 12 were all within
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one second of each other and some of them were within like
less than a 10th of each other. So there was a lot of stacked
talent in the front. But again, this is that one lap.
Put the qualifying tires on the stickiest rubber that I can get,
go out there with the lightest fuel load and try to RIP, you
know, 3 fast laps and see which of those laps gets me somewhere.
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Again, that's not a true race condition.
I mean that gets you in the bestposition to be competitive when
the race hits because you don't want to start from the 5th row
and try to get through, especially on this track.
This track is very narrow and has a lot of fast, narrow turns.
So there's not a lot of great positions where you going to
outbreak somebody without doing some kamikaze.
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So it did help him, but then once the race pace hit and now
you had to do this kind of race pace for a long distance, that's
when you started to see him, youknow, kind of struggle, start
falling back, try to crawl himself back a little bit.
You know, unfortunately, Alex Marquez had his incident with
with Pedro Acosta and that cost Alex that.
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And even Pedro once he kind of once the KTM kind of lost its
grip and everything, he ended upwhere he was at.
So you know, realistically Beko,I'm not going to say he got
gifted 1/3, but I think if Alex hadn't had his incident, I think
it would have been Alex and Pekko fighting for third versus
Pekko just kind of maintaining the distance between himself and
Acosta and and ending up in 3rd.Got you.
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All right. How about Bizeki?
I mean, I had him. I had him as somebody that could
have won the race, a second and a third place, pretty impressive
for Aprilia and in in the main race.
I mean, you know, he was right there with Mark.
He couldn't get around them. But I mean, I, I think this is
the first rider that we've seen put pressure on Mark the last
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three laps of a of a race. Yeah, for sure.
I think I didn't expect that at all come in, especially in the
Sprint the way he did. I mean, for those few laps, I
just sat there thinking like, ishe going to pass Alex and Mark
right now with the pace he's bringing?
It was really fast, man. And all of a sudden somewhere in
the Sprint, it evened out it even back out and he stayed in
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in that steady 3rd that he finished in.
And even in the race man, I mean, he just has that extra
gear in this at this track or something.
But that Aprilia seems to be coming together for him.
And I mean, I wouldn't have bet who would have finished in
second. Was it Alex or Bez for the race
if Alex hadn't gone down. That's how that's how good with
Bez was riding there. So very impressive by him.
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Got you. And I mean, I think Alex was in
fourth place fighting for fifth with Pekko when he went down.
So he was kind of backsliding a little bit.
But go ahead, Lewis. Yeah, Marco Buzzacki put on a
great show both in the Sprint and in the race.
In the Sprint, he definitely again, truncated race.
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So you get to burn your tires a little more.
So you don't really have to conserve, you don't have to
really pace yourself. You can just go full throttle
because you only have half the distance and you know that if
you manage the tires, you can go20 plus laps.
And if I don't manage the tire, who cares?
I only have 11 laps. Let me burn the the, you know,
the rubber to the steel threads and see what I can do.
He had great pace. He got close to the two guys in
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the front and then it kind of just, you know, settled into
that. I can't really get them.
They're pushing. I'm pushing.
I'd rather bring it home on the box than in a box.
So let me just stay with third. And then on Saturday he had
really great pace. He got past a lot of guys like
he did. You know, he didn't have as many
guys to get through. Like he didn't start from 18th
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place to finish 5th. So that was good for him.
But the one thing that did happen in that race that
hopefully now will shut all these sofa mutants up is when he
got behind Mark, Mark managed him from the front.
And all these people that are saying that all Alex just sits
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behind his brother. Alex doesn't try to pass him.
Alex isn't trying to be. It's not that you got a guy
that's a beast in front of you. Catching Mark and passing Mark
are two different animals. And as the tires go down,
passing him becomes even harder because if you looked at the
race, you can see the slinky effect.
Mark knew where he was slower, so he would gap him where he was
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faster. He knew he was going to lose
that gap where he was slower, and then he would gap him again
where he was faster. Like coming out of that.
Yeah. Coming out of that last chicane
to come on a front straightaway,Bazecki look like, oh, he's
about to make a lunge. And then coming out of that
marks like 10 bike lens in frontof like, dude, how did you get
10 bike lens in a kink? You're supposed to go slower.
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Yeah, and he he pass Pekko in that corner and Acosta I
believe. And and Mark, again, this guy is
so intelligent. Not only is he talented, he
literally was like, I know how fast Bazecki is in that corner.
So that means he's studied everybody's data.
He's seen where everybody has strengths and weaknesses and
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understands every opponent's strengths and weaknesses.
And when it's time to race and he knows who's behind him, he
somehow goes in his memory and is like, all right, I know
they're fast and turn 11/12/13. I know they struggle here and
struggle there. I'm faster here if there.
I don't need to look back. I can manage this just by
looking on my board and see whatthe time is and understanding
what I need to do to maintain them there.
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And the dude's a beast, man. So for everybody that thinks
that Mark's just letting him win, like nobody lets anybody
win. If you understood how much money
is at stake between 2nd place and 1st place, you would you
would just shut your mouth, man.It's ridiculous.
And I would say I I was going tosay that that you know what,
what want him to raise his intelligence or just his ability
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to ride the bike. And you kind of answer that,
Which is it? I think I to me is his
intelligent in this this weekendbecause he wasn't the fastest
guy this weekend and he didn't get the best start.
He didn't get a bad start, but he didn't start out in first
place, but he figured out how toget there.
And once he was there, he he just used the smarts to manage
that. And Peko was good at doing that
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last year. But unfortunately this year's a
little bit story. What are your thoughts on Raul
Fernandez? I mean, I, I, I still think this
could be a digi in 2020. What one and two where he saved
his career because Raul is riding at Aprilia.
Really nice too. Yeah, yeah, something happened
in the Sprint, right where they they climb, Morbideli and him
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clashed. I know Olivera, Olivera girls.
There it was. I think it was Olivera on the on
the in the I got to look. I got to look at.
This no Fernandez. No, no, it was Fernandez and.
More fidelity touched him. And was it Morbidel I think?
It was just like Morbideli man again.
And it it was, yeah. Because he went down.
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Oh, because yeah, he went down in his Sprint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, so that happened, but yeah,
I mean, he's looking pretty good.
I mean, right, there's only a few few Aprilia's to compare to
right at this point. But it's it's them too right now
because Aya Guru was kind of doing all right until he broke
his his leg. So, I mean, you know, it it.
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So yeah. So those are the 2.
And it looks like Bazecki's the Reference.
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I don't have much to say
about that. But I mean, I think he may or
may not have that shot at next year again with with Aprilia, I
don't know because it's it's going to go year by year for him
at this point. Yeah, yeah.
Well, he has a two year contractstill so.
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Oh, it goes still 27 for 26. The 26 he he has to renew for 27
or find a new job, but if his teammate is still Algura and he
keeps performing Algura, then you know you kind of do secure
your job at that point as long as you're better than your
teammate. You know, very few teams get rid
of the number one rider on the team, even if they're not at the
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top level. But a top 10 for Ferraro
Fernandez is is great. You know, at least for his
career, for his confidence. Because, I mean, he started this
year and the way he was riding, it seemed like he had no
confidence in himself, in the bike and the tires and anything.
And now in the last couple of races, he started to put some
stuff together, started to qualify a little bit better.
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Isn't finding the Kitty litter as much without Morbidelli's
help or somebody else's help Warren Bedelli loves.
He should put a patch on his back.
Says this way to the Kitty litter because he's going to put
you in the rocks. Was it, I forget, was it the
Sprint race or the main race? He had the long lap penalty.
Main race. Main race.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't it.
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Was him and Digi right? Yeah, him and DG.
When he got that, yeah. And he was like, they weren't
let. I remember the commentators
being like, yo, let him go by, man.
Like pretty much being like, yo,you're not letting him by.
Go do the long lap. And he again.
There is a big difference in paybetween one spot and the other.
Every spot you have is a little bit more coin in your pocket
and, and and this is not my job to let you go by me.
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Right. But I think for for Mobidelli,
if he was smarter and we've seen, I think Lorenzo and
Marquez do this, oh, Marquez do this last year, he should have
let him go. He should he should have let him
go because he had no space between the guys behind him that
it wouldn't have mattered. But he had a chance to at least
finish in front of Digi instead of doing that long life penalty
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because he just had to just fallback a position.
And oh, I think I'll lose a second, I think.
Yeah, yeah, he only lost one. I mean, going through that
particular long lap, I think it adds like 1.8 seconds if you do
it like spot on. And if you look at the way he
did it, he did it spot on and itdropped him back like maybe a
second, you know, and he finished in that same spot.
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It's not like he went any further back because there was
such a big gap from that spot. So, you know, but again, it's,
it's sometimes it's the finding mentality.
Like, I don't want to let anybody go by, especially my
teammate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go ahead. No, I think it was just, I think
it was combined the fact with the LLP, the long life penalty
right there in that lap while they were saying that.
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Other than that, yeah, Lewis is right.
You don't let somebody by just because you're a teammate or you
know they can have a chance of doing anything points wise or.
If you guys want to see the Formula One movie.
Have you seen it? Yes.
My brother's son told me to see it.
In the movie that Brad Pitt and his teammate are going neck and
neck and they end up crashing. And he said and he's like, you
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know, the teammate came over waslike, oh, you didn't let me
pass. He's like, it's not my job.
I don't let anybody pass. A teammate or not, I don't let
anybody pass. You got to earn your pass.
And same thing, man. In racing, you know, unless you
have a mechanical issue or something where you can cause
yourself injury or somebody elseinjury, you do everything you
can to keep the guy behind you. It's going to be tough because I
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think MOBA Deli's he's definitely shooting himself in
the foot like every round he gets like, you know, one step
forward and two step backwards with these action and and
hopefully he'll sort and and this carried over from last year
too. So I can't at least this year's
a little bit better. But he just he seems to get into
weird situation. Let's talk about Yamaha with
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Olivera, because he he had went off in in in the race.
This guy has so much bad luck bythat.
Like he can't even finish our our weekend.
Yeah, How did Oliver go out? That's with iagura.
Yeah. Right, all in the beginning.
Right, that's with that was withIagura.
Yeah, man, that's unfortunate for him.
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What can you do? I mean, right.
I mean, I don't even know what to say for that.
Agora clashed him. Did Algora didn't go down though
right? Yeah, he went down.
He went down. Olivera stayed up.
No, he went down too. He was out.
Olivier was out. Mayor was out.
Al Diguer was out, Alex and Salvadari.
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Yeah, Al Diguer went out in thathigh side later, but yeah, I
forget how Oliver went down, butit's unfortunate, man.
Like, what can you do? It was getting really crazy in
the in that that track had some weird stuff going on even in the
beginning, right? Like they were saying it was
cold and hot temperatures or something weird with the
temperature. We saw the high sides, like the
rear would come around, but thenthe front look like it was
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having a lot of chatter with thegirls crash.
I remember that. And that's just like a sign
chatter, the sign of too much grip.
So I don't know what that what that means when that when that
happens at that those kinds of tracks, they couldn't get that
doubt in. And then all of a sudden, of
course, that's the biggest challenge of of GP.
That's what that's why it's so interesting to see like we see
the winners and the losers, but they've had to battle in there
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within their own challenges. So much like they have to battle
with tire pressures, everything going on with the body, the the
physical changes, the characteristics, when
temperature changes, the tire changes.
Mark is just able to deal with that in such a deadly way that
he knows every strategy, everything in the book and he
knows mental games. So I mean, it's just wild, man.
It's a fun game to watch. I I love this thing.
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I think I got sidetracked on that one.
No worries, we're talking about I I agree.
I agree Oliver is misstep, but Imight as well add Lewis.
I mean, Jack Miller is looking pretty good.
I mean, you know, if there's a guy that you, you know, trying
to save a seat, this is, this isanother guy that's he's like the
second Yamaha right now. Yeah, he's the second Yamaha,
but I I think it's a little, I think it's a little too little,
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a little too late for him. I got again, I still believe in
my heart of hearts that his future lies outside of Moto GPI
mean he still might get a ride in Moto GP for next year.
But you know, as, as an actual fan of Jack Miller's, I would
prefer to see him on a competitive bike and road super
bike versus racing for 14th or 15th place in Moto GP.
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You know, I, I don't think as a competitor, you wake up every
Sunday, put on that helmet and be like, I can't wait to come in
14th place, you know, because mybike sucks and this sucks.
And you know, and I got, you know, guys that are 14 years
younger than me finishing seven spots ahead of me.
And you know, like I think it, you know, if he I don't know
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what his management is thinking,if he gets another opportunity
to stay in GP and if it's for more than a year, I would take
it. If it's an opportunity to stay
in GP and it's only a one year contract, but you can get
yourself A2 year contract in world super bike, go to world
super bike man. Like he's again, he's a super
talented rider and he's a fan favorite fans all over the world
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like this guy. That dude is super personable.
He loves to be in the crowd. He loves to entertain the
audience, so give him an opportunity to go to World Super
Bike, where the paddock is a little bit less restrictive than
the GP paddock. It's a little bit more of a
family environment and where he can kind of just be himself, be
natural, enjoy himself and try to fight again for that podium
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spot, man. Because you're not going to do
it on the Yamaha at least, right?
Not right now. If Cuadraro can't do it on a
routine basis, you're not going to do it.
Yeah, I, I can see that. Let's talk about KTM because
Acosta man and Vinales as you, as you mentioned earlier between
Alex and and Acosta, like Acosta's looking really good on
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that. KTM, even though they're
struggling towards the end of, of, of the race.
You guys think that, you know, we can see the KTM starting to
stay closer to the top 6? Yeah, for sure.
I think Acosta is looking reallystrong now, but I mean it again,
I, I feel like it, it comes and goes for him in the beginning,
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it was there in the beginning ofthe season and then now it's
coming back a little bit. But I mean, I it's, it's, it's
almost like what would these guys do on a solid bike, right?
KTM is coming back, but it's like man, it's the bikes
probably hold them back. And I think we're all holding
our breath till 2027 where all these manufacturers get that
good reset and get some good tires on their bikes, you know,
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like some Pirellis and, and really see how this this takes
off. But yeah, man, Acosta is looking
solid. Vinales is looking good.
You know, he's staying consistent in that top six top
7. So I mean they're, they're doing
KTM good service right now for sure.
I think Mark Marquez said it best in in the press conference.
You got to respect all the otherriders.
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Every every last one of them is trying to win.
Everyone, every last one was trying to win.
But here's the thing about KTM, man, it's like they they are
trying so many different things out to reduce those issues had
they're having. I wonder if they're ever going
to settle down on a certain setup because every track is a
different setup. They're always trying and
testing new things. Every bike looks different.
If you look at the practice videos where they're showing the
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bike's tail and everything like that, they got different fins
and everything. So it's like, man, I, I wonder
if they're ever going to settle down and maybe trust one of
those two riders between Vinalesor Acosta and be like, you know,
this guy's going in the right direction.
Let's listen to him a little more.
I don't know. I think that's what I think.
That's what I heard they're saying after the the last couple
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of rounds. They switched Pedro's setup to
Vinales's setup. OK.
Which would make sense because Vinales is is the most veteran
rider on that team that's also ridden the most equipment of
anybody on that team. Like, he's ridden everything on
two wheels that Moto GP has to offer except like, even the
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scooters in the paddock. Like, he's been on Yamaha, he's
been on Suzuki, He's been on everything, you know, So at
this. Yeah, previous.
So at this point, like, he is the guy you should be listening
to. And KTM definitely needs to stop
throwing so many things at the wall and hoping something
sticks. Like, hey, you got Vinales.
Yeah, he's a little bit of a head case sometimes, but the
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dude is fast. The dude's been on fast bikes
and he's won on fast bikes. And if anybody you're going to
listen to, that's the guy you should, you know, be the guy to
listen to. I wouldn't listen to Bender
because Bender is going backwards.
Bastionini. Is looking good.
Bastionini is is is outperforming with Bender this
week. So, you know, those two guys can
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battle it out in the teens, but if there's a guy that's
consistently in the top ten, like Vinales, follow that path.
Stop throwing so many things at the wall.
Try to narrow the focus down. Let's see what happens if we
give Vinales a set up to everybody and then work off of
that set up to keep developing the bike.
Don't try to every weekend come with a new tail section, a new
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arrow package in the front and you this and you like stop it,
man. Like you're you're killing time
and your guys are just going around burning tires and gas.
Last but not least, Honda. I mean, I was, you know, I was
on that Zarco train, man, I was on that Zarco train.
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And like even he's, you know, back to backgrounds.
He's struggling in mayor. It looks like he didn't finish
either race. I mean like that, that, that
can't feel good. No, definitely not.
Man, I'm surprised Chantra finished behind him because he
was in front of him at one pointin the race or the Sprint.
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I remember, forget where. But yeah, it's not looking good.
I don't know, man. I mean, maybe maybe it's just
like they had certain tracks favor them.
We've I think we've talked aboutthis, right?
Like the speed, the top speed isstill a thing, right?
So I don't know, man, it's, I think it'll come.
Their time is coming. I think a lot of different
manufacturers going to have a the great reset.
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And I keep saying that, but you know, me and a couple buddies
this morning, we were even talking about this about we were
talking about where is the Ducati going as Ducati going to
dominate. We were talking about Honda's
going to pull out the money, right?
They're going to pull out the money for for for for Martine
because Honda has the money, butthey're in this position where
they don't have to do that right?
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They're still going to get this reefs reset.
They're going to get the tire reset.
And at the end of the day, Martin Martin on this, that's a
whole another story. By the way, he's lost some
stock, he's lost value there. Who knows if you'll even get to
get out of that contract, but we'll see because I apparently
he didn't meet that clause that that allows him to do that so.
Only had one yeah I I can't see how because he only had one
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race, right you know, but you know, and I can't imagine that
Aprilia would would have it justone way I.
Don't think so, no. I mean, I did want to keep that
rider, but then you got this badenergy that you're going to put
him back on the bike. And I mean, the latest thing was
he's he's declared unfit again for Saxon Ring.
(27:18):
So is he getting fake doctor's notes out here man?
Maybe. I, I, you know, I would claim
PTSD, man. I mean, I, I think he has some
trauma from Ducati not signing him to the factory seat.
He's, he's, he's gone crazy, youknow, because he's, you know,
(27:39):
from the, from us looking at it or from myself looking at it, it
looks like he's hurt. He's really hurting himself.
No one else? Yeah.
Yeah, thoughts on KTM? I mean Honda and, and you know
his Martine, you know. Honda is sad because they've
they've, they've shown the same thing, glimmers of brilliance
(28:01):
here and there. Zarko has shown some glimmers.
Even the last round or two, likeNear has been a little bit more
consistent. I mean, Marini's the only one
that is really the most inconsistent.
You know, he just can't finish races and then he's been injured
and everything else is going on.Like Marini is the one that's
most at risk. I know Honda is struggling to
(28:22):
find that path that'll work at every track.
So maybe this particular track just wasn't a Honda track.
You know, it didn't really benefit the strengths of the
current model Honda. But we're going to Saxon Ring
next. We'll see what happens there.
I think Saxon Ring is going to be actually a good track for
Yamaha because you don't have a lot of long straightaways.
You have a lot of fast sweeping turns.
(28:45):
This is where the Yamaha excels.And you know, the the one thing
that sets the Yamaha, the Ducatiapart is the stability of the
breaking of the Ducati always seems to outperform the Yamaha.
But again, I think this next track is going to be a Yamaha
track and maybe Honda can be at least in the top ten with
somebody. I mean this weekend they didn't
have anybody in the top 10, which is, you know, sad in the
(29:08):
race that Nazi a Honda in the top 10.
But at least we still had a goodmix.
You know, that's like I've always said, I like the mix.
I want to see Aprilia, I want tosee KTMI, want to see Ducati.
And that's what we got this weekend.
We got a bunch of different manufacturers all up in the top
five, which is great to see. You know, it wasn't a Ducati
lockout in the top four or five and.
Let's and let's just talk about the overall race and then in in
(29:31):
general as you, as you mentionedthat because it, you know, it
was one of the more competitive races for the top, you know,
eight guys. Yeah, I know for sure this, this
this past weekend, the top 7-8 guys.
I mean, I wanted to be a little bit more competitive, a little
bit longer. I think when we got to lap 13 is
(29:52):
when all of a sudden, like the train broke apart and 4th and
5th really drifted further back,and then 6th and then after that
it just became like a, you know,a long parade.
Managing the gap. Yeah, but for the first, I want
to say 8-9 laps. I mean, you had a serious
freight train of like 8 or 9 bikes that were all within like
a second of each other. And again, it's this track kind
(30:16):
of induces that because of the way the tracks laid out.
But it also causes a problem because it makes it really
difficult to pass. And you saw people making
questionable passes in questionable areas.
And that's how Alex Marquez ended up in the Kitty litter
because that's not a great placeto pass.
Everybody's battling for this credit card with spot, with
bikes that are wider than the credit card.
(30:38):
And you're going to get contact.And unfortunately, you know, it
looks like what happened is his brake lever got contacted,
locked up the front brake, the tire went down.
And, you know, we'll see what his injury is going to be.
They're saying is that some people are saying it's a pinky,
other people are saying it's thepalm.
Either way, I hope he can get back on board soon because the
last thing you want to do is give Mark 2 races to get maybe
(31:04):
50 points on you. No.
Or more with the Sprint. Right, right, right.
I, I saw somewhere where, you know, they're talking about Alex
doesn't try to make those kind of passes on Mark compared to
other writers. He felt in the in that moment,
(31:24):
Alex probably should have, you know, not try to ride around
Acosta. Around Acosta, that was that
was, that was such a tough section, man.
It's like where the track goes, you're leaned left and you're
about to flick back right. It's it's kind of like a
straightaway, but it's leaning that way right.
And there's that little rumble strip that everyone tries to get
right real close to going right.And we're all trying to get
(31:46):
through that one little credit card patch.
Almost like Lewis said of like 4feet wide.
It's really you're trying to fit2 bikes in that section and and
no one wants to let off because the next corner you're breaking
into from a straight line right in almost.
So everyone wants to get that that section and it was just
aggressive. It was almost unfortunate that
that happened. Maybe the the brake guard lever
wasn't positioned correctly for the lean angle they were at
(32:08):
where it touched. Maybe it flicked up, maybe it
was loose, who knows. But yeah, it was just a weird,
weird crash is what I thought when I saw it.
I was like man, I know his frontdidn't lock up for no reason.
I knew it was a brake lever crash but.
When I yeah, when I saw, I thought the front wheel came off
the ground and and grabbed a brake and locked up and came
down and went out. But when they did the replay,
(32:31):
it's kind of like from overhead.It's possible that Acosta could
have touched the the the brake lever.
There's one video from Acosta's onboard camera that is.
It is probably the clearest video where you can see that
marks Alex's right hand handlebar hit either Acosta's
(32:52):
elbow or Acosta's arm and and 'cause that lock like it's it's
on board video from the KTM. That's the clearest video where
you can see the hand where it makes contact with his arm or
something or his elbow. But either way, man, it's it's
you know, it sucks because again, this track is super
narrow. Alex had the inside line when
they were going through the leftand he thought that Acosta was
(33:16):
going to give up the inside lineto the right and Acosta wasn't
giving up the inside line to theright.
And you know, again, two guys fighting.
It's just a racing incident. Two guys fighting for the same
real estate and it happens. You know, I don't, I don't, I'm
glad that the Stewart's didn't try to penalize Acosta or
anything because it again, that's a race incident, man.
(33:36):
That, you know, it's, it wasn't AT bone.
It wasn't anything like that. It's just two guys battling for
that spot. And you don't want to discourage
guys from doing that because then it's going to become
really, really boring where you can't touch anybody.
At that point, I'll just start watching the NBA again.
Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Oh. Man, let's not.
Let's jump into Moto 2. Diego Marrera, the first
(34:00):
Brazilian they're saying, but isn't Frankie sort of half
Brazilian, but to to win the Moto 2 race?
Pretty impressive. Aaron Connett blames it on a
crackle windshield. I don't know if he's any either.
You guys saw the replay that thethe windshield just cracked on
its own on the straightaway and just caused them to lose some
(34:23):
tents and caused them to race. I mean, Aaron Connett has, he's
missed the second place. Well, I didn't get a chance to
catch that race, but I'll let I'll let Lewis go.
No, I, it, I know there was somedamage to his windshield.
I don't know exactly how it happened or when it happened.
I did see that there was damage to his windshield.
I actually thought it was eitherdebris or something or him
(34:47):
getting mad and punching the windshield because he's done
that more than a few times. Get a better windshield man.
What can I tell you? That's what you got a visor on
your helmet for. Tuck in and and do what you
gotta do. You don't lose that many tents.
That's what he's saying. He's saying that you messed up.
I mean, and then, you know, theygot their lap timers on board.
(35:07):
They can tell the aerodynamics have it just a little bit.
But it was a very close race allthe way through and I mean
connect right led the race for the whole part I I again, I feel
bad for that guy because like, you know, if it's the windshield
or just getting bullied out the way, you know, and and he was
talking trash to Diego from the because of the previous weekend.
(35:31):
And so, you know, he takes the Lto Diego.
So that can't feel good. If you've been talking trash,
man, you can't you know, you, you got to you got to be Michael
Jordan or keep him up. Shut.
Yeah, I I think you should for every time he talks trash and
loses, he should remove one tattoo.
And I see how how much of A clear skin he gets because he
does like to talk a lot of trash, but you know, sometimes
(35:53):
he backs it up, but sometimes hedoesn't.
Yeah. Can I, can I just say this
though, on a separate subject, just thinking about all this
we've been talking about, I mean, I partly probably due to
the podcast too in some ways, but like, I feel like Liberty
Media is doing a phenomenal job right now with with Moto GP and
just you constantly see record crowds everywhere, right?
We're seeing that. And that has to be a result of
(36:16):
their marketing genius on Instagram, on social media
platform, just pushing certain, you know, we've, we're seeing
certain celebrations, certain interviews, certain styles
they're introducing to this yearthat they had never had before
they owned it. I feel like it's almost
trickling down to Moto America too in some ways.
You know, there's getting more interest there to watch that and
it's just it's a it's a it's a good thing to have racing almost
(36:38):
coming back alive to where now they're breaking records.
We were at one point talking about, man, are we going to is
racing dying? Are we going to lose viewership?
You know, so that's it's just, Ijust want to say that, man, I
was. It's definitely good to see
that. I agree over 200,000 people came
out for the weekend in which they're pretty impressive.
And yeah, Liberty Media Group I think is doing a phenomenal job
(37:00):
Their, their stock is just $95 today.
So people are liking what they're doing.
Formula One, I think there's this past weekend as well, you
know, which is, which is pretty dope because you know, from the
outside, you know, when, when companies and things get we, you
know, we see this, we, we're seeing it now with the Lakers
and The Mavericks and their changes that are, that are
(37:22):
happening in basketball. Just to talk about basketball a
little bit. Sometimes you don't know what,
what's going to happen when you owners come in and they and they
get the majority and they get tosay if they're going to make it
as entertaining as possible or is it going to get dry?
And, and so far it, it's, it's been pretty wild.
So I, I can't wait, you know, can't wait to see what else they
do. Oh, for sure.
(37:42):
I, I, I think overall, I don't, you know, I don't know if it's a
mix of social media, if it's a mix of like some of the, some of
the new content that's come out in the last couple of years.
You know, if it's, you know, seeMarquez kind of revitalize his
career after that Amazon Prime show that came on about, you
(38:03):
know, what happened to him. I think Liberty Media did the
same thing with Formula One. Like, you know, they created a
whole new type of content. They put it on on different
platforms so that people don't just watch the race.
People understand the lives and everything that goes behind the
curtain because that's where we have a disconnect in motorcycle
(38:23):
racing is somebody will watch motorcycle racing and any
racing, but you can't connect tothe people inside the helmets.
You know, you're not as invested.
And if you look at the people that are invested in motorcycle
racing, they're either invested in the bikes or they're invested
in the riders or they're invested in a combination of
both and you. And to get new people into the
(38:45):
sport, that's what you have to do.
And the only way you can do thatis by taking the helmets off
these guys and giving them an opportunity to have a voice.
And you also have to have the right riders because there's
certain riders that you don't want to put a microphone in
their face like they they will actually cause you to lose
customers. They just are horrible on the
mic, don't know what to say. Look up into space.
(39:07):
They're guys that end and start every sentence with or so like.
And then there's other guys thathave media training that are
great speakers, that are personalities that have engaging
backstories. You know, the Marquez brothers
have engaging back story. Mark has an engaging back story
coming back from injury. Pekko has an engaging back
story. Morbidelli does.
(39:28):
There's so much if if you can get that content in front of
people, people will watch it. And you know, they have a couple
of more documentaries that are coming out.
There's a Giacomo Gustini documentary that's being done
right now. And again, the more you know the
history of the sport and how thesport has evolved and you get it
out into mainstream, you put it on Netflix, you put it on
(39:49):
Amazon, you put it on these platforms where millions upon
millions of people go there looking for content to consume.
They're going to come across it and they'll sit back and watch
it, and this is how we engage new people.
Right, yeah, I I completely agree and looking forward to it.
But let's talk a little bit moreabout Moto 2 and Joe Roberts.
(40:11):
Look at signed into another two year deal with the American
Racing team with your guys thoughts on that is is he he do
you think it's well deserved? I mean he was riding mostly
injury injured earlier this year.
So he was just really recoveringand now he's, you know, he's
he's top six guy now. Yeah, I've heard he's doing a
(40:32):
little bit better, man. It's good for him to get another
two year deal with him. I mean, he's he's when he was
injured, he was out for like a good part of the first beginning
of the season, right? Yeah.
So I mean, it's good that he's able to stay there.
And I mean, if he's happy, I don't think he's going to get a
shot at GP now at this point in his career, right.
So it's good that he got that other two year deal.
(40:53):
Nice. What are your thoughts, Lewis?
Yeah, I think it's, it's great to still have an American
presence in motorcycle racing atthe top level, even if it's a
Moto 2. And you know, he's definitely,
when he's healthy, he and he's got a good team behind him.
He's he's shown that he can be competitive.
You know, this weekend he ended up top six, top 7, something
(41:16):
like that. I know he was in like the top 6
the group, him and his teammate,I think they came in like either
4th, 5th or 5th, 6th, something like that.
But that's great. You know, that shows that OK, so
that's great. You know, it shows that one
they're both on now a competitive bike because they
ended up, you know, right on topof each other, 5th and 6th and
(41:38):
now he's back in the top five. So that means that he is
recovering from his injury as well.
And hopefully now he can continue to notch up, notch up
and try to start steadily endingup in that top six or seven.
Because if you can stay in that top six or seven in Moto 2, even
if you stay in Moto 2, like that's great, It's visibility,
(41:58):
it gives you a promise of a career there.
You're going to keep getting contract renewals.
You might get opportunities to move to an even better team at
some point. And, and again, I want to see an
American in the sport at that level.
And he's a talented guy. And, you know, I wish him the
best. I hope his he keeps healing up
from his injuries and keeps racing the way he did this
(42:19):
weekend because we need people like that.
We need somebody representing, you know, the Stars and stripes
somewhere around the world. Most definitely.
And not to see it run away with the likes of Connette and
Gonzalez. Gonzalez because those two guys,
you know, for, for the, you know, past few, few rounds, they
were kind of running out there and and kind of looking like no
(42:41):
one was going to be able to keep, keep up with them.
But this round a lot of other guys showed up.
Dixon showed up. Ramirez Arenas, even though he
he finished where he finished, he was looking pretty good in
the beginning of that race. So Speaking of another American,
Garrett Gerloff, he also inked A2 year deal.
(43:01):
So he's staying in the world super bike for another two
years. So that's huge.
Even though he's the only he's only, he's the only one on a
Kawi over there of complete Kawi.
Oh really? He's the only one?
Say that again. He's the only one.
On what? On a.
Complete Kawi. Oh, because the other ones are
combined. Yamoda Yamoda with Kawi motors.
(43:23):
Yeah, yeah. I mean that's, I think he's he's
really good fit there. I mean, if anything, maybe he's
there a tail end where he comes back to Motor America.
I don't think so. But like good for him and
another two year deal with them.You know, his his run with BMW
was done. So I mean, I think I don't think
he's going back there again, right.
So good, good, good for him and that's all I could say.
(43:44):
Another two year deal locked in.It's good for him.
Yeah. Go ahead.
Yeah, same here. You know, I good to see an
American continue to keep a seatin world Super bike.
Hopefully Kawasaki actually put some money into the program next
year and and makes the bike a little bit more competitive
because it seems like this year like that hasn't been the
(44:04):
program. It's kind of just been a wheel
out this old shit box and do whatever you can do and and
that's it, you know, and it sucks because you can see some
of the Bimodas are outperformingthe Kawasaki.
And I don't think it's just Garrett Gerloff being
outperformed. I think it's the bike being
outperformed. So Kawasaki definitely needs to
(44:25):
do something to help him out andnot just give him a bike to go
and burn tires and gas with. Yeah, I agree.
I mean, if they're if they're trying to win something, because
it's we need more manufacturers to, to be in, in these classes
between, in between Moto GP, World Super Bike, even Motor
America and Kawi's a staple, youknow, still love to bike around
(44:48):
the world. Yeah, I got a couple in my
garage. You got to love him, man.
You got to love him. I I don't dislike Cowie.
I I dislike Cowie because there was somebody I know that used to
love Cowie and I disliked him. So Cowie is just clumped up with
that guy. Collider damage.
(45:09):
Every time. Liking me now, Louis?
I'm just kidding. Oh, no, no, no, no, but yeah,
but I, I hope to see Cali make acomeback because, you know, for
a long time, I mean, they were the dominant force in world
super bike and to see where theyare at now, you know, I don't
(45:31):
know what the plan is long term for Kawasaki in the sport bike
market, but I, you know, I wouldlove to see them do something at
some point. Because again, we, it seems like
we're losing the interests of the Japanese manufacturers in
the high displacement bikes. You know, they keep just
Wheeling out the same old bikes year after year and changing the
paint jobs. And, you know, fortunately
(45:53):
they're going to need to do something.
They're going to need to make that that bite that bullet and
and do an investment to really try to compete again in that
thousand CC range, man, or just stop making bikes then just give
it up, give give all the business to Ducati and BMW and
and that's it. There you go.
They they could have done a partnership with with with
Ducati instead. For years.
(46:15):
So this, I mean, I don't know ifyou guys ever heard this, but
for years there were rumors where Suzuki and Kawasaki would
merge to build to invest in one platform that they would both
sell with different bodywork. Kind of like the way that Nissan
and Toyota and other manufacturers make the same car
but with different bodywork to split the development cost of
(46:38):
developing a brand new thousand CC super bike.
Yeah, if they were halfway smart.
No, if you think when you. Said they're going to put
Kawasaki and Suzuki together. I'm like, what are they going to
call it, a Kia? No, no, no, it would.
Suzuki would still sell it as a Suzuki and Kawi would still sell
it as a Kawi, but they would both invest into the development
(46:58):
cost of a new motor, a new chassis and everything else.
And then the bodywork would change.
So the same way that you know, the Infiniti Q50 and the Nissan
Maxima are the same car, just with different bodywork and
electronics, this bike would be that because that would give the
opportunity for these two manufacturers that are I mean,
Kawasaki Industries is is huge, but Kawasaki as a motorcycle
(47:21):
company is smaller and Suzuki asa motorcycle company is smaller
compared to Honda and Yamaha andthis isn't.
For Yama, I mean, this isn't forMoto GP specifically you're
talking. About no, this, this would, this
is, I mean this goes back to like the 90s, early 2000s that
they would create this investment, that they would both
develop the same technology together, split the cost and
(47:42):
then both benefit from this new motor, this new package.
Because then I could create my Suzuki with my frame, swing arm,
forks and everything else. You create your cow with your
and then we both use the same motor.
And on the on the consumer side,now if you think about it, it's
the same motor. So the parts are going to be
more readily available, There's going to be more parts.
(48:04):
So it does benefit both of them by having a more competitive
bike that they, neither one of them has to invest, you know,
$30 million into developing an entirely new package.
And then that would also at the consumer level, maybe keep even
the cost of the bike down because each manufacturer
individually didn't invest this much to develop the power plant.
(48:25):
They split the cost of developing the power plant.
I again, you know, I, I'm alwayslooking at the numbers and if
Kawasaki and Suzuki want to be competitive, this is a great way
to be competitive and have a competitive motorcycle at a
competitive price point that nobody else can touch because
you're not both individually investing millions and millions
(48:45):
of dollars, you're only investing this much.
Yeah. I mean, we've seen that in cars,
right? I mean, I used to have an Eagle
talent that was ADS. That was a that was a Mitsubishi
something, something. Motors.
Because it was Chrysler, Mitsubishi and I guess Eagle was
a different guy. I don't know what that was.
But Toyota Super, right? Wow, AMC Eagle is their own spin
off for Chrysler. Well, the the the Toyota Super
(49:08):
right now that's a BMWM. What is it, Z7 or Z8?
And and you know, Lotus does that what they used to do with
the Celica motor, right? They put the Celica motor in
their in their car, I think. Yeah, they just did what they do
best was which was frames and and the way they built the
motor, I mean the the frame itself.
Nobody wants to make me the CEO of Kawasaki and Suzuki so I can
(49:29):
make this happen, unfortunately.No, I don't know about now, man.
Yeah, but I don't know, It couldbe good.
Be good, guys. Well, I don't thank both you
guys for coming out, man. It's the Be Forever Cool
podcast. My name is Rex 45.
Peace. Take care guys.
Take. Care.
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