MotoGP Portugal 2025 Round 21 Recap in S5 Ep 40

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
What your thoughts on Miguel Olivera?
One, should he have been able tofind a seat next year in Moto GP
and stay? And also I didn't realize the
Portuguese love Olivera more than they love soccer, football,
European football as I know Shakespeare.
Mad at that. Alex Marquez, he's #2 in the

(00:20):
World Series, World Series, in the Championship Series series,
he did it without his brother. You know, we, I probably gave
him a little bit of Flack saying, you know, he, he, he
could, he wasn't sustaining it, especially after his injury.
He wasn't, you know, riding the same way he was at the beginning
of the season and stuff like that.
What do you guys thoughts on him?

(00:40):
You know, the way he was able towin the Sprint and still get on
a podium in the GP even though he didn't win the GP.
Let's talk about did Acosta, youknow, Quatro and even even Peko
well, because he was fourth in qualifying.
A lot of fast laps, a lot of fast riders as is looking the
way he's looking. So it may be too late because,

(01:02):
you know, Bez, you know, why is Bez going to fall back right now
next season? I mean, he's the guy that looks
like he can take it to Marquez, enjoying to watch.
You know, these are these are young heads.
These are not the veterans that we're used to seeing.
I mean, I know Moto GP looks a lot different in the last five
years than the previous 10 just stock with VR46.
I mean, you know, like Frankie, he he he like he can't get out

(01:26):
of his own way and he's a lot better than the beginning of the
season. But now it's just because of the
beginning of the season, all notbeginning, but you know, most of
the season, the end, the the things that he's gotten himself
into every little thing now seems like it's the worst.
What are your thoughts on where Yamaha is the definitely some
struggles still. And, you know, we hopefully

(01:49):
they'll fix it next year becausethis year's rough.
You're listening to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
My name is Rex 45 and this past weekend Moto GP was in Puerto

(02:13):
Mayo, Portugal crazy race weekend not necessary some
first, but I think the top threeriders that we picked on on our
YouTube page is so who's going to win the race were upfront.
So I'm excited about that I'm excited to talk to the guys this
week. So let's bring them in one at a
time and, and, and see what's what.

(02:36):
TJ, man, welcome to the show. How you doing tonight, man?
It's. Cold up here man.
I'm doing good but trying to stay warmth.
I got a little taste of winter today, so trying to stay warm
and you know, the winter sports season, that's that's what it's
approaching. So still trying to enjoy what we
got left in motorcycles. I see you got, I see you got the

(02:58):
Suzuki hat. I thought you might have had a
Patriots something, a banner something, because there were
they nine and two now something like that eight and two, you
know, I mean, I know they're notthe same Patriots.
Yeah, we're playing good. It's it's, we're used to it.
I don't want to jinx anything now because, you know, when it
comes to the playoffs, it's almost like 1 and done.

(03:20):
So we're we're looking good. We're back in the pitcher.
And. Ask them to cheer for, you know,
no losing seasons over here. No doubt I I feel you're there
because it's we might be able tosteal something.
So if you can take something home with you, you always got to
try Speedy man, welcome to the show.

(03:40):
How you doing tonight, man? Pretty good, pretty good.
I think I'm playing. Everything's going pretty smooth
out here. So right.
I mean, you got flags waving fora different reason, man.
I mean, things are gonna come back to normal for you,
hopefully the next few weeks. I mean, work wise, yeah.
But it is what it is. That's it.

(04:00):
Go to work, don't get paid and get paid later.
I don't know. So I, I, we'll, we'll, we'll
hear more about it as a show gone.
You go on. You ready for Moto?
I mean, you watch Moto GP. So you're excited to talk about
the weekend and, and, and you know, the woes of of Honda.
Well, the woes of Honda. Shut up, man.

(04:22):
Reece is good, man. Welcome to the show, man.
You got me nervous, man. You got that hat on, man.
You know? Then I feel like I I should
start a fire or something. What's good?
Up here, cold man in Arkansas, but no, just left what, Indiana.
So it's cold man. It's getting there.
It's that time of the year. So I mean, do you do you keep

(04:44):
the rig at 80° inside? I mean, does it get that hot?
I. Mean you can you can get hotter,
they can start sweating. I mean.
So I rewanted all. Right, no doubt, man.
Listen, that's the best thing when you as long as you got a
heater and AC, life ain't too bad when you got to traverse
this country. For real, man, it's not that bad

(05:07):
today, but it's still a little chilly outside.
Like Hoodie and Scully. Yeah, no doubt.
I haven't seen any lizards out today man, so.
What's going on, fellas? Again, I know, man.
We got to move your situation and turn your situation again.
So there you go. Look at that.

(05:30):
We love. It turned, it turns sideways.
You know, that's what happens when you like Honda, you know
what I mean? You're doing it by itself.
I don't know why. No, no, that's a, that's a Honda
guy, right? That's what happened to me.
Turn on, you know, the Honda, they don't, they don't know how
to go straight. They turn sideways all the time.
It sounds like something some ofthe Honda riders was saying in
the past. It's going sideways.

(05:51):
I don't know why. Right.
That's what happened to Marquez.You say I'm out, I can't do this
no more. We got, we got Flack last time
for Colin Boulliga, a replacement rider for Marcus.
So we might have to be a little bit careful with Smitty and and
and and Marquez because he mightnot be as nice as as Lewis was

(06:15):
last last week. He's not a replacement rider,
he's a feeling rider. It didn't look, it didn't look
too bad, but depends on which side of the coin or bed you
slept on and and watch that race.
But we'll dive into it. Let's let's, you know, let's
let's talk about Miguel Oliviera, Portugal winner.
The first time Moto GP went to Portugal five years ago, I

(06:37):
believe, maybe a little bit longer.
It's his last round at Portugal as a Moto GP rider because he's
moving to World Super Bike next year.
I know we've seen these these inthe in the past, riders walking
away and lots of well, people walking away from their sport.
You know, do you do you guys looked at the celebration and

(06:58):
and and saw what are your thoughts on Miguel Oliveria?
One, should he have been able tofind a seat next year in Moto GP
and stay? And also, I didn't realize the
Portuguese love Oliveira more than they love soccer, football,
European football as I know Shakespeare mad at that.
But what are your thoughts on Miguel TJ?

(07:22):
I mean, I'm happy to see like the the support that he gets
from, you know, his hometown. It was a good celebration.
I mean, the fans were rocking the 88.
It was pretty cool. And showing the love, like
knowing that he's not going to get first place, you know, they
still just give him the mass support.
It's sad to see though, because I don't think it's not his

(07:45):
choice to depart Moto GP. It kind of just fell into that
way at the point in time. I think when it's deciding
between him and Jack Miller. I don't know what other seats
are really available at the point at that time.
So I'm not really sure what that, but good thing is he still
has a seat Ross super bike and Iactually think Ross super bike
Co supported miles. So I'm sure his fans will still

(08:08):
still be there to support him, just, you know, in another
another series. So but it was good to see him
out there to actually finish histime.
And you know, going back to the past few times he's been there,
he's been taken out for by Mark Marquez and just seeing like his
dad there supporting him and stuff like that is cool to see

(08:30):
that he was able to just finish and wait to his fans goodbye.
I I, I, I agree hard to see. Smitty, what are your thoughts
on Miguel? I know he was on the chopping
block from the beginning of the season.
For you, one of these riders that were finishing in the top,
I mean in the bottom 50. Look man, Moto GPI feel that the

(08:57):
sport needs more turnover. Sometimes with those back
riders, they hold on to to the rise too long.
And in Moto 2 we have a lot of young talent and sometimes look,
it doesn't work out. For example, some cat Chantra,
he was crushing it in Moto 2 Moto GP.
It just didn't go his way. So he got his, he got a shot and
now somebody else, you know, we get we get, you know, that same

(09:19):
shot. But back on Miguel, I mean,
didn't he win anything? He won what?
But like one race. I think if he he won at least
one, maybe more than that, he's a rider.
He's he's just a guy, yes, he's,you know, his last race was in
his hometown in GP this past weekend.
But I mean, it is what it is, you know?

(09:41):
Yeah, but you know, he go ahead,go ahead.
No, I was, I was going to say this.
You know, in Moto GP right now only 6 riders have have won.
So there's not a lot of riders in GP that win races.
I mean, true, but even if they, even though he won one
previously, he has he had a verylack left career, you know.

(10:05):
So him leaving, is it a loss of GP?
No, not at all. So saying so saying that it's
sad he left. I won't say it's sad at all, you
know, because I mean, the sport will be fine next year when he's
not there, honestly. He's crazy.
That boy, heartless man, Jesus Christ.

(10:27):
Listen, I mean, this is who you are running your company, man.
I mean, you know, someone like Smitty just like move on to the
next. I mean, I know Top Rock is huge
for Moto GP. I don't think it's a replacement
deal. You know, you're on the inside.
You know how you look at Oliveira.
I mean, it was I mean, I don't, I mean, unless he went to Honda

(10:49):
or I mean a test ride. Oh, you know, we could have
stayed, stayed and and what are your thoughts?
You agree with Smitty as far as like, he just didn't cut, He
didn't have the mustard. I mean, with Oliveira, man, I
mean kind of agree with Smitty alittle bit.
I mean, I'm not that heartless. I mean, I wish the guy the best.
I wish in the future endeavors on, you know, the next round,

(11:09):
you know, the next life and thenchapter, you know, but I mean,
he he didn't really get to his full potential.
I mean he just wasn't it. And this year it was just this
year, a couple last past couple years, it just seemed like he
just couldn't stay up on the bike.
It's just somebody always ran into the guy.
It was like almost like target sensation for people to see him

(11:32):
and just they just go. So he kind of had the bad luck
of the draw. You know, I think he may do a
lot better in World Super bike. You know, not many people in
there. They don't.
It's a different race, you know,as you can see the way you
break, it's in completely different.
So you know, so I I think he'll do better there.

(11:54):
I mean, will the sport miss him?Not per SE, but the, the, you
know, the Portuguese guys will, you know, the fans will miss
him. Five wins, not to cut you off
with five wins it looks like he had in in the GP championship
while he was there in one pole position.
I mean, five wins in a pole position, no matter how you look

(12:15):
at how you cut the mustard, it'sstill something impressive to
actually win a Moto GP race and to get a pole.
So it's still something impressive.
I mean, you know, he's never wona championship, but I mean, he
still has his mark there. And, you know, to see what he
does in World Super Bike, maybe he'll do a lot better.
Maybe that's where he needs to be.
You've seen a lot of guys go to World Super Bike and restart

(12:37):
their career. I, I, I agree with that.
I think it's, I think it's too soon for him.
Me. I think Danilo Petrucci was the
right time. He was, I mean, it was the right
time because he did, he did the KTM stint and then moved over
and is established himself. And he was older and and I and I

(12:59):
and I do believe he, you know, Oliveira had a better career
than Petrucci. They may have similar wins, but
Oliveira came out of Moto 2 and was like a superstar superstar
and just that that, you know, just plagued with bad luck kind
of thing would knock them out. Before we dive into the races,

(13:20):
let's talk about Alex Marquez. He's #2 in the World Series,
World Series, in the Championship Series series, and
you know, two brothers since of Venus and Serena finishing one
or two. He did it without his brother.
You know, we, I probably gave him a little bit of Flack
saying, you know, he, he, he couldn't, he wasn't sustaining

(13:42):
it, especially after his injury.He wasn't, you know, riding the
same way he was at the beginningof the season and stuff like
that. What are you guys thoughts on
him? You know, the way he was able to
win the Sprint and still get on a podium in the GP even though
he didn't win the GP. We'll start with TJ.
Yeah, I mean, it's it's pretty incredible to see like, you

(14:04):
know, brothers to, you know, have stats like that.
You know, you don't see it too often.
Like, you know, he can walk around with a chip on his
shoulder now, you know, he's actually proved that, you know,
he's he got second place and it's hard to beat his brother as
it is. But you know, I think if his
brother was on Honda Steel or even out for the season, it

(14:25):
would have been, it would have been Alice's, you know, because
Pecker didn't show up. My team is out.
So but yeah, I mean, it's good to see Alex get #2 and to to
fight this weekend. Felt like he had the pace to be
upfront. There was times where he was a
little up in the back. He had to fight to get past a

(14:47):
couple riders, but he did it cleanly and just showing that
he's a second place rider, right?
I mean, I I didn't have the confidence in now it's this this
year at all. So like.
From. Last year, this from last year,
this year, I, I hats off to him and I don't know what his
brother finally instilled in him, but it's it's good to see.

(15:10):
Yeah, Smitty, TJ made a valid point.
I mean, if Marquez wasn't there,Alex MiTo walked away with the
championship this year. You know, how, how do you look
at, at, at that is it, You know,if Mark wasn't on a Ducati,
would Alex be riding as good as he's riding?
Or if if Mark wasn't on the bikeat all, will Alex been able to

(15:34):
find his way? OK, so I'm going to add a little
bit more to it. But according to you, the 25 and
24 are are totally different bikes, right?
Bikes. Yeah, according to me, according
to Ducati, I'm calling you because you always say that's
why people can't ride it. That's why it's according to
Ducati, man. I mean, I, I was saying this

(15:54):
earlier to cut you off and I wassaying this earlier to someone.
I'm like, I don't know why people don't get mad at me when
I'm right and it's such a thing,man.
So anyway, back on the point. So having so if Mark was there
or not, I don't think that has any impact on Alex's performance
because there's nothing Mark could tell him to help him ride

(16:15):
his bike better. You see what I'm saying?
So Alex is kind of his own man right now.
He don't need his big bro to show him the ropes anymore.
Follow him around. But TJ, he made some great
points and I agree, you know, with all of them.
But to add to more what TJ said,like I enjoy cool stories in
sports, like to go off script, Like I enjoy seeing LeBron and

(16:36):
Brownie James playing on the same team.
Like I enjoy seeing Carmelo's son do good in Syracuse.
Like I enjoy seeing things like that.
And it's cool seeing the brothers now be one or two in
the same class. So it's just the story that's,
you know, that keeps things in history and these things will go
on forever. Like, you know, we talked about

(16:57):
decades from now. It's cool.
It's cool to witness these thesethings first hand, you know.
So, yeah, I agree because I mean, you know, you can look at
the McEnroe brothers and tennis,but you know, the young, the
younger McEnroe wasn't like JohnMcEnroe.
So you know, it, it was different.
I mean, you know it, you know, Paula Spargro, Alicia Spargro,

(17:19):
you know, these guys were here already.
And you know, they both, I believe, have at least one
races, but, you know, not at thesame level of what Alex and Mark
are doing, you know. What are your thoughts, Reese,
on what the guy said? And you know, anything you want
to add on Alex and and Mark Marquez and and being 1 and 2?
No, I mean Mark and Alex wanted to.

(17:40):
I mean that's just a great accomplishment.
It goes down in the record books.
But even like they don't like you know, TJ it's been he said.
I mean if Mark wasn't there is still not going to change it.
I mean, I think Alex still wouldhave been there because you
could see in the offseason them two were training and I know I
said they were showing. I think Mark was on like AV4 and

(18:01):
Alex was crazy enough. It was on an R6.
So I think, you know, him training with his brother and
out there learning different lines and learning different
brake Marks and, you know, beingon a different bike.
And then as you know, like you say, the 24 and 25, it's
completely different. It just helped Alex, you know, I

(18:21):
sell that much further along. So I don't think it would have
been any different. I think if Mark wasn't there.
I think Alex, this would have been Alex championship for sure.
OK. I, I, yeah, I mean, that's, I
don't think any, I don't know anybody that betted on that.
They would have been, you know, they would have been rich
because none of, I don't know, Idon't think any of us saw that
at the beginning of the season. But for him to finish and he's

(18:44):
finishing strong, I mean, that'sthe best way to to finish out of
season is, is to finish strong before we before we one more,
let's say housekeeping. But, you know, before we jump
into, there was a delay in the Moto GP race, you know, we all
race at different levels and, and you know, you are, you're on
a race team at a high level. Reese, you know, when they're

(19:05):
delays like this, is it on the folks that are hitting the knobs
and pushing the buttons? Does it mess up a rider's rhythm
a little bit? Is it, is it no big deal?
What are your thoughts, TJ 'cause I mean that delay, they
had riders looking around for a little bit.
So you got to come off the, the,the, you know, you're a little
bit relaxed or distracted. Yeah, I mean, I mean, delays are

(19:30):
always distractions. I mean, especially when you're
ready to go because you got the butterflies and we just want to
get going. And a delay kind of like, you
know, you got to like restart the engine again a little bit.
It's just as long as you know what's going on so you can like
better prepare and you know, do your routine, you know, because

(19:53):
you got to everyone has a routine before going out to
perform. So it's kind of like your
routine has to last until it's ready to go.
So like you don't want to routine to end, still have a few
minutes to spare. So I think if that throws you
all slightly. All right, no doubt, Smitty, I

(20:15):
know you're you're you're lockedin so and also sideways.
So I know you definitely. Hold you.
It's that Honda thing, man. I know you definitely ain't one
Honda thing. I don't know what it.
Does. I don't know why but.
Because you're on a Honda. You got to you got to reach out
to race direction. Man, somebody's messing up over
there. What were you thought?

(20:35):
Did you notice the delay? Is it no big deal?
Has that happened to you in a race?
You know, for one reason or another, maybe a rider just just
coming to the grid a little bit later than everybody else is a
part of racing because, you know, everyone is honored to
grid is dealing with it. It's so funny thing.
Normally I'm the guy that's lasted the grip.
So I'm so I'm I'm the delay for everybody else anyway.

(20:57):
So you are the delay. I mean, but I get it.
But it's part of racing. Like to me, it's no different
than you start the racing and then there's a red flag.
You know, it if it kills the rhythm, it does, but it affects
no one more than the other. So it just it's part of the
game. You know, it affects one guy,
two guys, three guys, all 19 feel the same delay.

(21:18):
So I don't see it see it as a big deal, you know, got you and,
and, and no, no need to go see race direction or anything like
that. Nah, not at all.
It just happens, you know, you know, I mean, you know, some
people might have missed their launch, man.
I mean, the, the Hondas, they struggled to me, they struggled.
I don't know if that was the reason or not, but I think it

(21:40):
was a burnt clutch. What are your thoughts, Reese?
You, you, you, you're in it at ahigh level.
You know this cost some riders money, some teams money.
First of all, I mean, with Smitty, you know, it's got to be
Smitty being a black person always.
Dang, then late to the grid. Like really bro?
Be on time. Nah.

(22:00):
I mean, we get delays all the time.
I mean, we'll get delays from the king of the baggers dumping
oil all over the grid, I mean the track or we'll get somebody
doing something, a red flag or something.
We'll get delays all the time. I mean, does it affect the
riders? I mean, once you get to that
level of riding, it's kind of like it is what it is.
They kind of just can kind of not chill out.

(22:22):
They're still in the game mode, they're still ready to go, but
they can kind of just kind of there.
They can. It's almost like they can relax
a little bit more, like take thelittle bit of tension off.
Like especially like there's been time where you see like one
of our guys, they like they're alittle nervous, but they kind of
take that little bit of edge offand like, I'm ready to go.
I'm good. You know, sometimes they'll get

(22:43):
ready late and they need a little bit more time.
So that little extra delay sometimes does help them a
little bit. So I mean, it's normal.
Once you get to that level, it'sit's almost normal part of the
game. Is is there anyone to complain
to at that at that point or you just it is it it's just more you
know, you know, just you know, talk after the the racing is

(23:04):
over. And pretty much talk after the
race is over. But it's like anything else.
I mean, we can complain, oh we want, but who the hell is going
to listen? That's pretty much what it comes
down to. Who the hell is going to listen?
You know, race direction? They're like, oh look, we got to
do this. We got to do this Heckle, you
know, that's pretty much it. Yeah, pretty crazy, Pretty

(23:24):
crazy. So let's talk about the race,
guys. Oh yeah, let's do that with, you
know, your boy. I'm ready for that one.
Who's my boy Heckle? The one, the one that's on the
ground over there that's complaining, you know, the one
that's always on the ground or they don't finish.
But you know, like by Lewis said, Oh my beard, I'm not

(23:47):
running for 3rd or 4th. I'm going to show you how I do
in 21st or not finished hold my bill on this I got.
I don't know what he did to you guys.
I don't know what he did. I think he didn't sign a dice
with with with Lewis, but I don't I don't I don't know what
he did to you, Reese, man, come on.
It happens. We know these things happen in
in in in racing. But let's let's talk about what

(24:09):
Bazecki did Acosta, you know, Quatararo and even even Peko
well, because he was fourth in qualifying.
A lot of fast laps, a lot of fast riders, you know, you know,
I've never been to Puerto Mayos,a track that's on my bucket list
to go to from playing the video games.
I mean it, it looks really fun to see these guys manhandle the

(24:34):
track, for lack of a better word, because they really do.
It was one of these track that they just literally manhandled
for you guys. Impressed with the qualifying
times of the top four, top five guys that got into 130 sevens.
I mean, even in Honda too, Honda's right there.
That means Zocco is right out ofwell, you know, he got 38, you
know, point O9O59. What are your thoughts?

(24:58):
TTJ on on qualifying and and Aprilia, KTM, Yamaha, Ducati and
Honda. All 5 brands right there man.
Yeah, I mean that. I mean, every year these bikes
are getting faster. I mean, tech's getting better,
aerodynamics and stuff. But it is just, I mean, every

(25:19):
time we go to someone setting a new record.
So it's good to see. And because Zeki's been killing
it, man. Like, this is funny.
Like, not to jump subject, but like going into the next round,
like, people are going to be asking for help because he's the
one who got gotten this far. But yeah, to see people hit the
1:30 sevens, like, I mean, this tracks already.

(25:41):
Like you said, manhandles a roller coaster.
There's a lot of up downs, left rights, uphill, downhill.
I mean, like you very you got tobe on your game on point,
especially to pull off somethinglike this.
Like even just going down that straight away and like their
breaking marker is like pretty much right as you go down the

(26:02):
hill. So like to to feather that front
brake and rear brake just to make turn 1 is already something
else. But yeah, Zarko and to see all
the manufacturers get close to that 137 and to be able to talk
is really good to see just the improvement of the ones that

(26:23):
haven't been there on yourself. Right, right, Speedy man.
Now you got a chance to talk. I mean, look, we had five
different manufacturers in the top five, 6 because I mean 7
because Honda and and Mirin Zarko was six and seven.
I mean, Pekko was a top Ducati at Portemayo so I know he his

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finish doesn't do justice, but the boy was still pretty fast.
Rex. Give it up.
Stop it, man. I called it last week and I said
it jokingly that Bulleger will beat Petco and he actually did.
He did not, he did not time wise.

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He did not who had a high finish.
I mean, he, he finished cuz the guy crashed out.
I mean, that's, then that's, then that's beating somebody.
I, I, I, I know you guys go backand forth with that depending on
who's your boy and who's not your boy.
But I, I, I see, I, I'm picking up what you're putting down.
So, you know, yes, you know, Bulleger, he finished the race.

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So but then also when I want to say in free practice one, his
times were better than Peckles, I want to say, which is kind of
normal because you know, no, it's not normal.
He's always, he's always slowingin the first practice and the
second and the Sprint and the race, but that's neither here
nor there. He qualified 4th on the grid
this time. Yeah.

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So I mean, we, we, we like that's the we can't just skip
over that part. As slow as you want to say he
was, he when it it it he he had the speed when it mattered.
Yo, you defend Pekko like he hasa blackmail on you, man.
No, man, I mean, I think that you know, I don't know what he's
done to you guys because you know, you all the things that

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you're saying about back Naya, you can say about all the other
writers, Zarko Meer, Luca, like you can say about all the other
writers that are that are not one and two.
I mean, but for some reason he'sthe only target you guys see.
So I mean, you know, I you know,I'm just I'm just being fair and
you know, we're all entitled to a bad season.
It happens to all the writers and this is his and I hope he

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learned from it and come back strong next year.
Rex, go ahead. Rex.
The truth is, I don't hate Pekkoat all, but it's fun seeing you
defend this guy to to your grave, man.
So, so I just grab that Pekko. I defend all the guys to defend
him. No, but I, I, you know, I
defend. I defended Brad Miller, Brad
Bender when you when you were onhim.

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I defended Miller, Jack Miller when when you were talking about
him, Frankie, I, I mean, I'm thebiggest.
I was the biggest supporter. I'm the biggest supporter of
Frankie. And you know what I'm saying?
So. I see, Reese, you're shaking
your head. So what are you trying to say?
You're you're on board with what?
Smitty. Smitty saying You want Pekka's
payroll, man? Nah, it wouldn't go that far,
man. It's we, we, we.

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If we all go ahead, go ahead. I mean, I agree with Smitty 100%
man. I mean, I think you are on
Pekka's payroll or something, man.
But I think it's just I don't hate the guy.
I don't, I don't hate the guy. I don't hate even Jorge Martin.

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Just don't get it twisted. I don't hate neither one of
those guys. The problem with those two guys
is they're they got bigger than what they thought they were.
And now that somebody's on a level playing field as them,
their true colors and true self is really showing.
They're not that that person. You're not, as we used to call

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it, the alien. You're not that, you're not
that. You're not that type of rider
that you put a better rider on the same caliber bike.
You're getting your doors blown off.
But and you feel that they said that other people said they were
aliens. No, they, I'm not saying they
someone thought they were alien.They said they were that type of

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rider. Yeah.
OK. All right.
I see what? I see what you're saying, but
it's not. Like the way they, the way they
carried themselves, the way theywere walking around like I'm the
shit, I'm this, I'm that, like, you know, you're not.
And they were for the for that period of time.
Because there was nobody else on, nobody else on their level
yet on that bikes level. But, and, but, you know, in all

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fairness, isn't that how you're supposed to kind of walk as a,
as a top tier rider? If you're a top tier rider, you
got two World Championships and,and, you know, and you're going
for 1/3. I mean, I, I, I you can't have.
You can, but here here's the thing.
It's the same thing. Like if you want to relate it to
basketball, Jordan never wanted to play with the other best

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guys. He wanted to beat them.
So they haven't beat the best guys yet.
But it took, they were, it took Jordan 6 years to I don't think,
I don't think Petco is going to leave Ducati and I hope he
doesn't leave Ducati. So I, I hope he does stick
around and, and get the opportunity to stick around to,
you know, come back and, and maybe challenge Marquez, right?

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And and Alex Marquez, because those are the guys to beat at
the moment. OK.
But now you said Jordan took Jordan six years.
But Jordan had a come up into his own character, his own life.
Same thing with. Petco, what he's doing right
now. But he's already came up, so if
you look at Moto 3, Moto 22, that counts as your years.
Right. I see what you're saying, but it
it's almost like, you know, to go back, keep it a basketball.

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You look at Kobe Bryant after Shaq left, he had to find his
way to get two more rings and hehad to go to the mountains.
So I I think it's something likethat.
I think it's something like thatfor him, for Petco and I think a
Martine in a different way because he got hurt.
But it's like dolls or the OR the Djokovic.
I won't say Pecos like a Federer, but I but those guys

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had to go and and go sort it outand come back.
You know, I'm saying Paul Piercehad to go and sort it out and
come back. And I think and I and I hope
this year is that for any person, they regardless if it's
Petco anyone, then you have a tough year.
You, you, you double down and you know, you, you pivot and you
do what you're supposed to do for next year.
And hopefully, you know, you'll you'll be singing the praises or

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drinking the champagne. It doesn't always work like
that, but you know that's the idea, right?
Right. That's the idea.
I mean, that's always the idea, but I mean, at the point are,
are they going to be that, you know, coming up the coming
years, are they going to actually be on the mountaintop?
It's for them. It's like, you don't know,

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right? I mean, you know, some may say
why you don't know. I mean that that's the whole
thing. I mean, no one knows until they
go out there and try and, and, and so, I mean, that's the
beautiful thing about whatever one is trying to do in life.
We don't know. I, I hope so because it would be
a good story to tell because youknow, as, as, as a professional
or anything, you, you want to beat everybody.

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You know, you know that you might not want to talk about it,
but you definitely want to beat everybody.
Right. You want to beat everybody, but
can you beat everybody? It depends you only.
Can. You know.
You can't beat Marquez. That's the problem.
I'll say this, Djokovic had to change his diet to be able to

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hang and and beat Nadal and and beat Federer.
He had to. He literally had to become a
different person. So it's up to whoever it is.
In the case of of of of Petco, it's up to him to whatever he
may have to do in the offseason.I can't tell him how to get back
there. You got a better shot of telling
him, telling him how to get backthere than I do.
But he's surrounded by Rossi andand a great team.

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So if anyone can come back to the mountain top, it would be
him, you know what I'm saying? And who knows?
Because Bez and we will move on because we've been we've been on
that a little bit. You know, Bez is looking the way
he's looking. So it may be too late because
you know, Bez, you know, why is Bez going to fall back right now
next season? I mean, he's the guy that looks

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like he can take it to Marquez. So at the end of the day, it may
be too late because again, when there's blood in the water,
other people step up. So TJ, what are your thoughts on
how Bez did this weekend? I mean, he didn't win the
Sprint. He won the main race and he won
it like in style and fashion, asthey say.
What are your thoughts? Yeah, he's killing me, man.

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Like he's definitely holding theplayer down.
I mean, especially, you know, they're down.
Martine and Ralph Fernandez was out.
So like, you know, it's just, you know, he's just showing that
he can be that number one guy. I mean, I know we were just
talking about Petco and not to jump back on him real quick, but

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I think he just being a front runner for his championships and
now finally a real ride to come back like Marc Marquez and being
his teammate, it kind of just slapped him in the face.
Nothing's going well. You need to change up your your
regimen and everything to compete better, you know, just
to fit in and that Zeki and, youknow, had a slightly tough

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beginning of the year and just figure that bike out with no
help. What his mechanics and coaches
like felt like he even really have a teammate to really fall
back on and to pull out the podiums he's has.
And it's just very impressive. And it shows that what he can do
when he gets a better package, I'm sure he can handle any bike

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given to him. He's kind of getting on that
level of, you know, a championship rider, so hopefully
one day he didn't be a champion,but very impressive for that
opperia. Right, no doubt.
Smitty, what are your thoughts on Bez affiliate was just him
and Iagura this round. I mean, these riders when they

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get hurt, they they missing somerounds this year.
It's it's it's pretty wild. Do you think that Bez has enough
to carry this momentum into nextseason to I mean, he's he's top
three in the championship, barring something incredible
happened in the last round. So there's only two people in
front of Bez and it's not something we thought would have

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happened at the beginning of theseason.
And you know, what are your thoughts?
OK, so I think Best could win the next round in Valencia.
Shit, that's like in two days. Couple days, yes.
But in terms of next season's, the momentum, I don't believe in
that at all. Because what happens in
Valencia, next year's a brand new bike anyway.

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You know, they're going to change too many things and like,
you don't know the direction of the bike.
The same way to Ducati from the 24 to 25 is different.
Mark loves it. Some guys don't so so here's a
bike next year. I don't know, but as of right
now best found at 7th gear that he just showing the yo, I should
have been up front a long time ago.

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The bike got sorted out. But also to add to that, I think
that kind of fucks with Martini that he's like, OK, you know, I
should be the number one guy. I'm the champion from last year
and now this guy's kind of make me feel you know like forgot
about all almost you know so that's the part we put it that I

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kind of want to see what what happens with Bez and Martine
next year. Right.
Do you think it's a good idea for Martine to come back the
last round or should he just wait till next year?
Just wait. There's no point I mean for what
data. I mean there's no point at all
honestly, you know you come back, you will finish on the
5th. OK, looks good, but it had
nothing to do with next year at all.

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Just stay out He'll but it could.
I mean, he has nothing to win bycoming back but a whole lot to
lose like coming back because Bez beats in which he probably
would just have just having moreseat time.
It ain't gonna look good. You know, I'm watching.
So yeah, Reece, what are your thoughts on Aprilia Martine

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coming back after the after before the last round?
Should he? What would you expect a rider
to? Does it matter the last round
before next season? Is it, is it kind of like I'm a
show up to the last part, last tour like John?
I don't want to call out any singers, you know, I'm a show to
the last date on the tour. Miss the bulk of the stuff

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because since you guys are doingso good now, I'll come out and
get some flowers too. What are your thoughts on what
Bez is doing? As I was saying, we're talking
about with with Petco. I mean, you know, Bez look like
he could, you know, challenge mark next year.
Do do you buy into that you're you're closer to the stuff than
we are? I mean, I do buy into it.

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I mean, he could with Jorge coming back the last round.
I mean, I mean, the only thing you can come back for some data,
you know, to kind of get your get ready to come for next
season because you'll probably be on a little break for before
the next test. So I can see that.
But it's kind of like Smitty said, it's really no point
because you can get hurt. So just kind of sit down and get
ready for the test. I mean, that's, I think there's

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a Valencia test, what like the next week after.
So I noticed one test, but just to come back for the last round
and kind of just sit out, man. I mean, you're not going to gain
anything. You're not going to know
anything because knowing Aprilia, they're going to change
the bike around a little bit. Things are going to change.

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So there's really kind of no point, I mean, unless you're
just getting your flow back. Right, right.
Yeah, as. I say, hasn't he crashed the
first round? He came back, he crashed and
then he came back again. I think he did OK and he got the
Martinator's back and then it got messed up again or something

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like that. So I think I think he should
just sit out like you said, but I'm sure they get enough time
before testing stuff where they can cycle or something.
But. Right, right.
Just stay out. I agree.
I'm going to bring this questionto Smitty first because I know
you got to get out of here. Get out of here, Smitty, give me
a, you know, Alex. Alex Bizecki and Acosta and and

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even some of those other guys, how how much fun was it to watch
in the Sprint race and the main race and, and how they competed
because those guys like, you know, they were above and beyond
everyone else. It was fun to see because I'm
dying to see Pedro get a win final, you know, and I thought
he would have it in the Sprint. He was close and it fell behind
and same thing. The GP is like he has the pace

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to win a race but he just can't finish the race.
And I don't, I don't understand how somebody could be that fast
for the first half and maybe it's the bike.
And also from standpoint of how bikes work, I never understood
why a bike is good in the first half and bad second-half.
Or good or bad. Go ahead, go ahead.

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That's not I'll answer your I'llanswer your question when you
when you're done, no. Go ahead, good.
Some curious, let's know why bikes do that.
Like some bikes are good to start, finish bad, some start
bad finish good. Why is that?
It's the way the setup is, so the setup can be good for the
bike with the chassis with freshtires.

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Once the the tires start wearingoff, it's not set up for it.
And that's where Marquez excels at.
He sets the bike up more for when the tires drop.
So when the tires drop, you're not getting a lot of that, you
know, movement and everything else.
He he, he is set up for that. You get what I'm saying?

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So a lot of people don't, they'll set the bike up for the
beginning or the middle when Marquez sets it up for the
ending, so. Pedro got to change the setup.
Yeah, or it just, it's just likehow Yamaha said that where the
bike is not, it just wears out the tire too fast and it's just
like it's not, it's not good, OK.

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I I think it's I think that's what's happening and they're
hoping to resolve that is the tires don't last and he's doing
he's doing and I don't know if he's still riding with a little
electronics, but you know, he's had to ride with like Littleton
electronics to be finishing where he's finishing.
Got you. So I do that run fellows.
Good chat with you guys. All right, man, peace out, man.

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It's always a pleasure. Adios, Pete Smitty.
I got something on that. See if Reese can answer this.
So like, yeah, Bryce, Bryce, good in the beginning and they
fade off to the end. Or like instead of how you
saying Mark can make his riding ability have the bike be fine

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towards the end of the race. But like this, is there such
thing as a rider saving saving tire to the end but still
keeping pace? You know what I'm saying?
So like, I'm sure you can save the tire a little bit and by the
end of the race you'd be like, oh, I could have used more of
it. But like as far as the pace
thing, like obviously if you tryto push more, you might use the

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tire even though if you're trying to save it.
So like is there such thing as saving the tire towards the end
of the race? You can save it.
I don't know how much you're going to you, you're going to
save enough to still be able to push you get what I'm saying?
So you can save it a little bit.I mean, you can, you can save a

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little bit. Because what they're going to do
is they're going to give you know, about a good 100%
beginning of the race. And then what they're going to
do once they kind of start settling, they're going to back
it down and maintain that pace. They're just going to maintain.
They're not pushing us. They're not pushing that hard
yet. So now when the last 10 laps

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come, now they're going to startturning up.
They're going to push harder on the front, they're going to
start pushing the rear. And it's just going to wear that
that tire out. They're going to give everything
a tire. Yeah.
I suspect it also depends how the start of the race go because
if they can, if they now front versus starting in the middle
and if they starting in the middle, how quickly can they get
up front to where they want to be and then and then get into

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that conservation mode. Right.
Because if you're falling in theback, now you're trying to push
to get back up front or you fallback behind or whatever.
So it just depends on where you're at too.
Yeah, you know, it, it's crazy. I, I, I feel for the dude and,
you know, because, I mean, I think him and you know, him and
Quatararo, Mayor Zarko, you know, probably even Luca, right?

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These are guys that, and not to say all these guys don't want to
win, but they're, they're, they're pretty much, you know,
chucking the bike down the road to get everything they can out
of these bikes. And, you know, I, I, I feel for
this guy because it's just kind of like if he was on a different
manufacturer, you know, but at this point, Arrolio or Ducati

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Pedro, you know, he, he, he may be the person we're saying
Marquez needs to be. I say, yeah, I mean, he he's
that type of rider. I mean, Acosta is a great rider.
I mean, he still he's coming up.I mean, I'm not not going to say

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he's where the Marquez is, but he he can show some some talent
and the way he's riding that bike.
So, yeah, so let's talk about the three of them.
You know, you guys did get a chance to talk about that, how
they were in the Sprint and in the main race.
It was enjoying to watch. You know, these are these are
young heads. These are not the veterans that
we're used to seeing. I mean, I know Moto GP looks a

(45:59):
lot different in the last five years than the previous 10.
So what are you, what are your thoughts, TJ on on just, you
know, watching the race, see, you know, you know, looking at
Bez Acosta Bagnaya, Alex Marquezand and seeing these guys like
these are the these these are the future.
Yeah, I mean, it's like you saidwhat what Smitty was saying, I

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wanted to see Acosta finally, you know, get on the podium
because it's time's running out.You know, you want to, you want
to, you want to get up, get up there.
You know, you try so hard. You he he is that caliber
writer. I mean he's that he's definitely
a writer that can show improvement and and work on
routines and stuff like that. He's just each city has that

(46:43):
focus in them and it just sucks that Al together had to get one
before him. So, you know, it's just, it was
really good to see like in the Sprint race, them three, they
finished within .6 of the second.
So it's pretty, pretty cool to see just three battling up the

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front just for the whole race, you know, without backing off
and stuff like that. There was one point, I don't
know if it was the Sprint or theGP race, when three of them went
downturned, one together and like kind of crisscross, you
know? And it's just like, who, who's
going to, who's going to give, you know?
And it's just for all of them tokeep it together and still keep

(47:31):
pace. It's just like, yeah, this is
the future, you know, it's cool to see that we got some good
riders out there. Right, right.
No doubt, man. Reese with your thoughts man,
watching the race and and seeingthese young boys throw these
bikes around. I mean, I was watching them and
it was actually amazing. That Sprint race was I think the
Sprint race was better than the Dang on better than the the the

(47:55):
actual race. I think it was better than the
actual race. I mean to watch it was back and
forth, back and forth, back and forth.
And I was just like, Jesus Christ, I was like, who's going
to actually want to take this? So I mean these three, these
young guys coming up is our future of Moto GP.
You know what I mean? They are our future, and I think
it's going to be something to watch in the upcoming years.

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You know, I definitely think it's going to be something.
Yeah, I agree. Well, let's move to Honda, man.
I mean, you know, hey, Mia, It'sit's like we're cheering for
him. We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And now we got gremlins like what?
Aprilia? What happened to Aprilia the
last few years with LH and Venialas and stuff.

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I mean, you know, you know, you're, you're working on world
Super bike mode, America World Super bikes.
I mean, is it that easy? I wouldn't say easy.
I mean the start of a race. You can fly fry your clutch.
Yes, yes you can fry the hell out of that clutch man.

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Depends on how it's set up, when, how much play it has in
it, if it's still in it. Or some people are just hard on
the clutch and some people aren't.
Some people are very easy. It's just you can fry the hell
out of it man. I've seen people fry it in the
first initial start. Over the years I've seen it.
I'm just like up Kurtz of the clone.

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Right. I mean, you know it, it's A and
like, like, like like, you know,I got you guys must have said to
Bobby in the moment, you know, you can't see all the positive
when something goes wrong. I mean, you know, you know,
Olivier is different because he was getting injured and mirror
was just crashing a lot. He like, you know, mirror had
this glimpse of like, OK, the Honda's doing everything and

(49:48):
everything and then you have these mechanicals.
Is is it for a rider? Is it is a biggest set back or
is it just kind of like it's, it's just part of racing and,
and the bike is there. We're there.
It it, it will. We'll we'll we just keep moving
and take our lumps. I mean, nobody wants to take

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their lumps, man. Nobody wants, I mean, but it, it
comes to a point where, you know, depending on the season, I
mean, we, we do our best, you know, and I mean, in the
beginning, we're all coming out there to win.
You come with the expectation ofthe win and you know, 3/4 of the
way. And now depending on where we're
at, we're trying to make the best of the season.
That's what you're trying to do.You're trying to make the best

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of the season. Right, right.
TJ, what do you have thoughts onHonda?
And you know, it's, I mean, I, Iwould say that the third I would
say because there's more riders being more consistent than KTM
did it, did it. I did a third best manufacturer
in this in this year, even though it may not look like it

(50:51):
on paper. I mean, I give it to them.
They definitely have made their steps.
I think they've gotten some contingency taken away from them
because they've done a lot of done a little better and yeah,
it's a good day going in the right direction.
But now they're just like up anddown, up and down.

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And now in qualifying and and practice, they they look really
nice. And when it comes to the race,
it's like a flaw. Not to mention Juan Mir having
his festivities of either mechanical or falling.
And I think it's hard to supporta manufacturer to pay like, you
know, they're paying a rider andhe's just never finishing.

(51:33):
And you know, obviously it's just bad luck, but it's kind of
like it's hard to get more results.
Like you can't, you can't win any money because you never can
get a rider to finish. So but they are moving in the
right steps. There's just just bad luck to

(51:54):
have Joe Armida again to not finish it at all.
Right, No, it is it, it's huge. And you know, as I'm thinking
about the next topics to talk about, I think it's, you know,
it's VR46 Academy and all four Yamahas.
I mean like, it's like, come on,which one you guys don't want to

(52:16):
win? I mean, I know, I know Quatro
Robert is trying. I know Miller is trying.
It doesn't seem like I know they're all trying, but it it
it's just, you know, they can't catch a break.
I mean, I guess let's do, let's start with VR46.
I mean, you know, like Frankie, he he, he like he can't get out
of his own way and he's a lot better than the beginning of the

(52:39):
season. But now it's just because of the
beginning of the season, all notbeginning, but you know, most of
the season, the end, the the things that he's gotten himself
into, every little thing now seems like it's the worst.
But it's it's really you know, I'll say this.
What does Frankie have to do next year to stay in Moto GP?

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And I'll answer that. And then just, you know, how the
VR46 Academy did both of them because did you didn't have his
best weekend either. And you know, Grazini is is a
much better team, I think at themoment as far as where to finish
it in the standings than the theVR46 Academy.
What are your thoughts, TJ? I mean, I don't think his

(53:23):
bonehead movements will ever go away 'cause it's usually just in
your blood. But I do think that he probably
just needs to get in better shape than he is.
I feel like he gets a little fatigued.
I don't know if it's just his dryness now, but he likes to
throw himself into riders to geta little bump as like, I don't

(53:45):
know, a. Push off.
Yeah, like a little push off this, I don't know what it is,
but like it's sometimes it's just the moves that he makes.
It's just like, whoa, Frankie, like even the one he crashed
going down the hill, like, I don't know, he like he was given
too much. And if you're on the inside
like, you should know already that this is not going to work

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before you do it. Like, I don't know.
I'm not. I'm not saying Top Rock is a
better writer than Frankie, but Frankie is trying to do things.
Top Rock. We see Top Rock do and get away
with it and Frankie tries them, but he's not getting away with
them. Yeah, no, he's not getting away
with them. Yeah.
Representing VR46 and just keeping a seat.

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I think that he just should be in better shape going into the
season where he can just try to stay up front because he he has
his on and off clips and sometimes you like, oh,
Frankie's back and and then he gets a penalty for telling the
marshals that no, I want to go back on the track like or
something like that. It's just like stitches, stuff

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like that, like that cost you a longer pound.
You like, you know I don't. Know I I I agree.
What are your thoughts on VR46 Academy or V for the six race
team race and what Frankie's doing?
And you know, I think I don't think did you, I know Diggio's
heard a little bit this year, I believe memory serves correct.
So I think they're both on the chopping block for next year.

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I don't think I need any either riders.
You know, I think if I was, you know, management, I'm like, all
right, we know we want Pedro. So we're going to break the bank
for Pedro if he does want to come over and and these guys are
going to have to fight it out next season, right?
I mean, pretty much, yeah. I mean, they're going to fight
it out. I mean, Frankie's Frankie needs

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to be in top five. He's got to be top five or
better. You know, he needs to finish
some races, not have so many penalties.
That's number one. You know, he's got to do that
and he's got to finish top five,maybe win him one or two.
I'm not going to say like a multiple, but one or two, but
he's definitely got to finish top five, you know, and not
crash as much. And like I said, not have so
many penalties and just peckers,you know, your boy.

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We just got to figure out what the problem is.
And I think, but I think once they getting around and they get
to the problem, I think they'll,I think they'll be all right.
I mean, they'll always be a top 10 contender.
You know, I just, you got to, asthe word says, you got to be
more consistent. Right, right.

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And so let's talk about Yamaha. You know, Rin's, I mean, not
Rin's Quatarara he, I mean, I, you know, you can't say anything
bad about the dude. You can't say he ain't trying,
you know, but like, I mean, you know, Jack Miller looks like
he's happy, but they got to be some frustration.
As we know Olivera is leaving and and is that I you know, I

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think Smitty mentioned he didn'tknow why Miller stayed, but I
think Miller is just a more seasoned rider that to help top
rock next year than than Olivera.
And, and you know, and I think Miller did a few things, but
what are you, what are your thoughts on where Yamaha is?
There's definitely some struggles still.
And, you know, we hopefully they'll fix it next year because

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this year's rough. It's just a question mark right
now because they're moving over to the the B4, right, so.
No 27, man, we got one more year.
Oh yeah, so. Housing.
So we got next year, man. Oh yeah.
Yeah, but I mean like I'm also like they, they, they, I'm

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afraid to him that Fabio might move on also because like to be
honest, Fabio on another manufacturer, I think he'll be a
really good brand, especially beif he gets on a Ducati then
some. Trouble.
I mean for this. Go ahead, I.
Was going to say for this man topull out for this bike to be as
bad as it is to pull out all thepole positions that he has.

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Yeah, the bike can't make race distance, but fast lap is a fast
lap. I mean like he's showing he can
do it. Not none of the other riders
have lens is always in the back.Like you said, Jack Miller just
happy he crashing a lot and Miguel's half in half out and
it's just they need a better team matters and better package.

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And you don't want to lose Fabiobecause then you not going to
have nothing. And he's he's showing all he got
in here. Right, Reese, I mean, where's
Fabio going to go? I mean, I, I see things on
social media like Aprilia. I mean, I, I know, I mean the
only person they can get rid of out of Aprilia is Martine.
And if Martine does halfway decent, who they going to get

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rid of? Like there's there's no places
for Techo to go and there's no place for a couple to go where
they going to go. I don't know where they're going
to go, man, be honest with you. There's nowhere really for you
to go. But I mean, I get his
frustration, but this is the last year of the one thousands,
I mean, coming up. So it means like they're going

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to the eight 50s. So yeah, so just enjoy Next.
Season just enjoy it and like you know, everyone's talking
about the V4, the V4 and how they doing it.
I mean I can be honest, they're probably going to keep the V4 in
the market and drop a cylinder and make it an 850.
That's all you can do right, right.
You know so it's I mean just enjoy the last year.

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Where you going to go? And then you're going to 27.
Yeah, everybody starts to clock all over.
It's just it's a whole reset. So it's like, yeah, I can
understand I'm getting frustrated, but where the hell
you going? Now, I agree there's no,
there's, like I said, there's noplace really to go.
And you know, there's no, I'm not.
I'm not ready to sit here and say until Prolia wins A

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championship, you know, we can just say it's the second best
bike on the grid or the third best bike on the grid.
We can, like we can't give Aprilia more credit than that
until they win a championship. So, you know, Yamaha's proven,
Honda's proven and Ducati's proven.
But, you know, maybe Qatarara can go to Honda.
Maybe. No, I think he would probably go

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to more of a prior to Aprilia maybe.
Satellite Aprilia, like, I mean,they, I mean, they're not going
to give up Baz, Baz. No, you won't give up bed.
The only person you give up is Jorge.
Yeah, you know, and that's the only person you're going to give
up. I agree.

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You don't want to be there anyway.
Well, no, boy, he wants to go toHonda.
No, I, I. I, I think he, I think he wants
to, you know what I'm saying? You know, I think I think he I
think I think after what Martinehas seen Bez do, I think he's
looking differently at that, at that, at that bike.

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You know, and I and I think his woes that he had in the
beginning, you can't you you getlike Martine, I mean, Bazecki
showed you that like this bike can win.
Raul showed you that this bike can win.
I Guru showed you that this bikecan go fast.
And I think for Aya Guru, he just keeps getting hurt.
Like if he was healthy, he he might have been closer in the

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rookie championship, rookie fighting for rookie of the year
with with reforming, because at the beginning of the year it was
his to lose until he got hurt. So you know, so that's the crazy
part as far as you know where these guys are going to go.
So these rumors are rumors, but it is what it is.
So what do I got before I get out of here?

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Let's I guess KTM and then we get out of here because it is
it's that witch an hour. You know, we already talked
about Acosta, what he's doing. You know, how about these other
three guys? Venialis is going to be come
back for the last round as well.So that should be interesting to
see. I will say for KTM, Polo Spa
Girl impressed me a lot because he, he's was consistent the

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whole weekend. I, I know Brad was fighting for
everything and, and he's probably fighting for a career
and stuff like that. What are your thoughts on where
KTM is? Is Acosta enough for KTM to see
him be like we're we're, we're, we're we're #3?
I mean, I mean, like I said, KTMhas been up and down all year

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and especially what they've beengoing through start of the
season with their brand. Like it's just like you said, we
need a Maverick to be around to to make them have a better year.
I think they'll be OK, but I don't think they're going to be
putting a lot of money into their bikes next year.

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That's what I thought I heard. But but you know, like Brad
Bender definitely needs to show more improvement.
Like I think he did OK this weekend.
He got over a 6th place, but youknow what?
They're still just 5th place. They're still on the struggle

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busting thing though. It's just like when they, like
Pedro showed his effort that they can fight.
It's certain tracks, but it's just, I don't know, it's just
for them to be better, better than Aprilia and like it's going
to be be hard to me because theyain't doing anything like an A

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is not putting in no work. Yeah, yeah, Maverick has been
hurt. And yeah, it's just, it's just.
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. What are your thoughts Reese on
on KTMS and and you know what are the third best bike on the
grid? I mean, right now I would say

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yes, they are the third best bike on the grid versus Honda
and Yamaha. I mean, Yamaha and Honda still
in the back. Honda's further along than
Yamaha. But I mean with Bizeki, not
Bizeki Bassini, he's got to showmore improvement a whole lot.
So so Bender, I mean, Bender hasbeen there way too long.

(01:04:06):
It's like he's almost like stalemate, you know, he just
can't he can't get above to thatnext level.
And you know, Acosta's came in and took it, took it over with
Vinales coming back. I mean, that's going to give
some more some more leeway with the bike, you know, some more
technology, some more work and some more R and DI mean because

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I think he was the best developer for the bike.
You know, I think he was like that.
Like, you know, in basketball you have that one veteran.
I think he was that. I think he was that vet.
I. Agree.
I mean, just hopefully next yearthey can come along.
And like I said, same thing withTJI, don't think they're going
to invest a lot of money into itright now until things come

(01:04:50):
along. But you know, I think, I think
they'll be OK. OK, Yeah, we'll see.
I mean, we're looking forward toit.
Let's who do you guys pick for for a second?
I. Say, do you think Mara should
come back this last race just like Jorge deal or is it for the
fans? I think.
He should. No, I think he should.

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I mean, I'll give him some kind of know how to see how the
shoulders, Yeah, they'll get some assessment on the shoulder.
Right. Yeah.
Who you guys think you're going to win next?
The last round, I still got Bazecki, Acosta and Fermi.
Fermi Algae, Alto beer and Alex Marquez Alto beer.

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I got Bazecki or Alex winning. OK, being real, yeah.
You thoughts DJI? Mean with the momentum from
going one week to next week, I think it's going to be possibly
the same three guys, Pedro, Alexand the executives.
So don't know who's going to take it.

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I don't know if Pedro's probablygoing to pull his victory off
last round of the season. We'll see, but I think that's
probably pull it off. All right, all right, no doubt.
Before we get out of here, one last thing I got to ask your
thoughts on World Super bike announced that Jonathan Ray is
going to be a test rider for Honda six time world champions.

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We have said, you know, people like Michael Jordan can't coach
teams and stuff like this. Is this a good look for Honda
signed in the six time champion to be the guy that makes you go
fast? Yes.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I definitely say it's a
good look for him. No doubt my name is Rex 45.
It's to be forever. Cool podcast.

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We got Reese from Itaki Yamaha. We got TJ with tubes and coffee.
Peace.