MotoGP San Marino 2025 Recap in S5 Ep 29

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Welcome back to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
My name is Rex 45. We got Reese Mataki.
I'm on the building. The real Luis Ortega, the
numbers guy, TJ with two wheels and coffee.
What's going on fellas? How you doing TJ?
Your audio. Bro hanging in there just enjoy
the last weekend audios and stuff you hear.

(00:23):
Me, we got you now. You're kind of laggy though.
Oh well, no, we had a good weekend abrasion so was a
fortune to watch that. Can't complain otherwise.
I was just flipping back and forth between Moto America and
Moto ZP. So that's pretty much sums up my
weekend. All right, man.
Well, you know, you know, Austinand and Mazana is not the same

(00:48):
time zone, man. You know, we're gonna have to,
we're gonna have to get you another clock to make sure you
can, you know, watch it separatetimes.
I mean, I guess I don't know howI don't know what time Lewis
gets up, but I I'm usually up like, you know, I'm watching it
live generally. You know, that's just me, man.
What's going on, Reese, man, howyou doing, man?
And we'll, we'll find out how your weekend went from your

(01:10):
perspective, from you know, where I'm sitting.
Look like you, you kind of call it where it was.
I I don't know if you guys couldhave expected a better outcome,
but how you doing man? I'm good man, just burnt out
from the weekend. This long weekend.
Hot as hell, but it's still good.
Ready for the last round. Like for a battle like I called
it. So stop, man, We're looking

(01:30):
forward to it. Some good racing down in in
Austin this past weekend. What's going on, Lewis?
Man how things I see you got bigtime on your on your chest.
Yeah, yeah, shout out to my boy Felipe and Jeremiah from Big
Time on YouTube. These guys have been super great
to me for the last couple years.I've been working with them and
we're always swapping swag, so Isend them some gear, they send

(01:53):
me some gear, but they got an amazing channel.
They're the ones that have been doing like this Moto GP series,
Road to Moto GP. So really good stuff, cool guys
and on the raising front. Great weekend man, can't wait to
talk about it. Lots of crazy excitement in the
US and overseas, so definitely going to be a good show all.
Right, man, that's what's up. We're going to jump into it.
We're going to, we're going to start with Moto America because

(02:15):
I know Reese might have to tap out at some point because, you
know, he, he doesn't stop working, you know?
Hey man, somebody's got to make the money.
Yeah. Hey, listen, man, I'll text you
my address when I'm done. Few things might need to get
taken care of. Let's talk about it, TJ.
Boat America. You know you heard Reese from

(02:38):
the past three rounds talking about what to expect.
What are your thoughts on what you saw this weekend?
I mean, it was good to see, you know, the young kids go out
there, the, the, you know, like the Town Cup.
And it was good to see the stock1000.

(02:59):
I think it's their last race of the year, you know, And it was
good to see like every manufacturer be good at one part
of the track, you know, for instance, just watching like a
Honda go down the back street next to a Ducati, just seeing
what it can do and, and how it can keep up on the other parts

(03:20):
of the track. So and then, you know, the main
race is where you know what we're looking forward to.
And it was interesting to see, you know, how Josh Henry could
pull out that first race for allthe the Higgins that was going
on that that first race was thatthat happened.
But overall, race one and race 2are pretty good.

(03:41):
It's good to see. Well, you know, the Yamahas stay
up in there, Bobby Fond to get on the podium and stay in
contention, you know, didn't lose everything so.
There you go. It's called, you know, they're
called painkillers for a reason,man.
It gets me through a lot. Trust me, when I when I was lost
in my spleen, man, you know, it was nice to have some some
painkillers to be be able to rest.

(04:02):
So, you know, I think he had it figured out.
Josh, your thoughts, Lewis, we see that they announced that
we're going to have another Ducati in in super bike in Motor
America next year with PJ. You know, are you excited for
that? I mean, I'm, I'm always excited
when the grid fills up with morebikes.
You know, I've always said that I like the Stock 1000 class

(04:24):
because it keeps the prices of going racing a little bit more
manageable. I mean, it's still expensive.
Anybody thinks that to be competitive on a Stock 1000, you
can do it for like less than 250grand, you're out of your mind.
You know, like if you want to doevery single round, like you're
going to spend some money. But at least the Stock 1000
class gave a lot more riders theopportunity.

(04:45):
And I just hope that the way that the rules work out next
year to combine the stock 1000 is super bike.
There's enough concessions wherethe stock 1000 won't just be
there to fill the grid, but can be competitive.
I mean, I expect the same players to be at the front just
because the equipment and the talent level.
But I, I want to see an opportunity where a guy that,

(05:10):
you know, an unexpected talent can kind of rise up and, and be
that, you know, hair in the ointment or something like that,
you know, so I'm hoping it happens next year.
I'm hoping that it's really competitive.
I want to see Ducati's there. I want to see Honda's there.
I want to see, you know, Suzuki's there.
I mean, we're Suzuki's now, but I want to see the grid to fill

(05:31):
up more. You know, the saddest thing that
I saw this weekend was the bagger race.
I saw six guys lining up to race.
That means you have a 50% chanceof being on the podium if you
just don't crash and somebody else does.
Like, as much as that's a fun race, that shit sucks, man.
I don't want to see six bikes lining up, man.
Like if you don't have at least 12 bikes on the grid, like why

(05:54):
even line up? Like it's crazy.
Everybody finishes in the pointsand like, I understand why it is
happening, but that grid needs to get bigger.
You know, we're going to go international with Bagger Racing
with Harley-Davidson. That grid needs to get bigger
here in the US. We can't show up in Spain or in
Portugal with six bikes. Man, that looks pathetic.

(06:16):
You said you know what happened,so can you enlighten us?
Because I, I, I was wondering the same thing.
From my perspective, I just assumed the championship was
over and some people said they want to spend any more more
money for the for the last two rounds.
I don't, I don't, I don't think I'm going to be at Jersey or
not, but. No, that's 100% what happened.
You know, people are like, well,you know what, this
championship's over. I'm not going to spend the money

(06:37):
to haul all my equipment to Texas, you know, call my call my
guys at Texas when there's no chance of me winning or
something like that. Like this grid, and I think, I
hate to say it, I don't think the grid's going to be any
bigger for New Jersey. Again, if I'm based out of
California, why am I going to drive across the country to

(06:57):
finish outside the points, not have a championship, not really
make any money? Like, you know, that grid's got
to get filled up and and we got to see some new faces on that
grid too. You know, it can't be the same
the usual suspects every single weekend.
Like it's not fair and as as a certain point is going to lose

(07:17):
its novelty and if there's no competition there then it's
going to lose its interest. You know?
I don't I don't want to see the same if I had to watch the same
2 football teams play each otherevery weekend for the entire NFL
season. Dude I'm checking out after like
the second game. Right, right, right.
No, I definitely there's some other sports we could talk about
this like that. But let's get to Reese, man.

(07:39):
Let's let's talk about the, the weekend from your perspective,
Yamaha perspective. I mean, you know, you guys got
to feel pretty good. I I assume the T-shirts are
already made and ready like likethe Ducati Moto GP to bring it
over to Motegi? Nah, it sure aren't printed just
yet. I mean, it could go anyway, but

(08:00):
I mean, we go on air with the, you know, positive attitude.
I mean, Bobby, I think he was like, I know one race he was
second last year in Jersey and Ithink he was, I know he podium,
I think he podium both times. But we're going there with a
positive attitude. Like I said before we came in
there knowing that this is one of their their tracks like

(08:23):
Ducati and BMW where they can exploit all their power.
So I mean, to come out with a second and third place, I mean
that's really great. And, you know, to take a second
and third and almost have a win in Race 2, you know, almost had
it. So we'll, we'll take that.
I mean, it was a good weekend. You know, no, everybody, both

(08:46):
riders came home, you know, no major crashes, no major nothing.
So we, I mean, we'll take that positive win, head on to the
next round and get ready for a aweird battle.
Right. Were you, were you guys
surprised at how close it was that those guys didn't really
run away? Yes and no.

(09:07):
I mean, we was hoping that we'd be close, stay in their draft.
And I mean, we thought they we knew that on the back straight
away, especially that long back straight away, we knew that they
had the power of the pull away. And if you watch, I mean, that's
where Cameron kind of sucked up on Bobby and and got the pass.
So we knew that was happening. But you know, we stayed right

(09:30):
there with him. Bobby was, if you watch, Bobby
was one of the fastest guys coming through the s s where he
would almost run up in the back of them.
So he was he. He passed them.
Yeah, did, did, did on, on the did you guys give Jake a hard
time? Yeah, when he had that low side

(09:50):
and crashed out and Cam, you know, had a low side and saved
it. Now you give him a hard time.
I was just happy we wasn't there.
I mean it was nice not to be there late night.
So it wasn't that bad of a bad crash.
It was kind of easy night like all right, we get out of here
early. So that was kind of peaceful low
side he I mean he saved it real good.
So it was fun, No? No, no, it it it was fun to

(10:13):
watch TJ, man, you know, you let's let's dive into a little
bit more watching the races and stuff like that.
I know Josh is your boy and you know, he seemed to struggle a
little bit more on on Sunday. You know, how do you feel about
that and how he how it turned out?

(10:35):
Sorry, I'm having a little connection issues, so we say.
So you say it one more time about Sunday.
Saturday, Sunday, you know, talkabout Josh a little bit and I
know he's your boy. I'm, I mean, I'm a Ducati guy.
So I I like how it turned out, but you know.
I mean, yeah, I mean, someday, you know, we wanted to see, you

(10:57):
know, Josh Paul it off. He could, but, you know,
obviously it'll be a little different.
And I don't know their approaches a lot to finish in
life, but they couldn't pull it out.
He did get a podium, but it was good to see Bobby Fogg actually
fight with Kim Beaubien for thatlast race.
That was pretty cool. Bobby Fogg definitely gave his

(11:20):
all, definitely wanted to see him win, but that BMW just had
too much down the back street. Just like reset few weeks back,
how strong they would be down there.
But yeah, it's going to be a bigfight going into Jersey.
But I think Sunday was was a good race.

(11:41):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I see you got the Suzuki hat.
I figured you'd have a Yamaha hat tonight because Suzuki, they
weren't trying, man. But they were.
They were trying. But, you know, I feel bad for
Richie Escalante. Was that Escalante that that
that, you know, he crashed on the last lap?

(12:03):
Well you know SDK been doing good so but I'm not sure if he
crashed on the last lap, did he?Or what?
Race one or Race 2? Race 2 I thought it was a race 2
He he crashed on the I was a race one.
I I my memory says correctly. Felt like well.
Race he had. He had mechanical, He had
mechanical. Well, yeah, something like that

(12:26):
from what I hear. I think he ran out of fuel.
That's mechanical. It's not KTM mechanical, but his
mechanical. You know, and that's what is
that a 2008 bike? I mean that's pretty good for an
old bike to be competing with these new bikes.
I would I. Said it's a 13.

(12:47):
No, it's a 1616. There you go, it's only it's
only 9. Years old?
It's only 10 years. Old, but I got to say the 50th
anniversary color look pretty good though.
What are you? What are your thoughts on that?
Lewis The. Bike came out when it was the
40th anniversary color. They had that page on that bike

(13:12):
twice in one lap time. Yeah, I love Suzuki, man.
I I. I saw your story man, so.
It's rough, man. It's rough out there for Suzuki.
It looked good. It looked good.
Man, I just wish that, you know,I, I wait to see what, what

(13:33):
Suzuki's doing next year. You know, they've kind of put a
little bit of a press push behind the new GSXR 1000.
No, they don't. It's all wingless.
You know you got to start somewhere man.
Hamda did nothing but winless and look where they are now on
Moto GPI. Mean, I ain't got no more Red
Bull, but they got wings. Crashing out of 18th.
Ain't got Red Bull got. They got their wings.

(13:56):
No, but I hope, I hope Suzuki does a little bit better next
year. You know, they got talented
riders, man. SDK is a talented rider.
Escalante is a talented rider, you know, their entire team, the
Super sport team, talented riders.
It's just, you know, they just that 1 1/2 step behind the guys
at the front technology wise, motor wise, just everything, you

(14:18):
know, I mean, you can do a lot with a stock motor and make it a
super bike motor and do all the things you can do.
But at the end of the day, I mean, if you don't have that
little extra help from the factory, if you don't have newer
chassis or a newer motor you canbuild off of you, you're always
limited to the tools that you have to work with.

(14:39):
So yeah, I feel bad for Suzuki, man.
Hurts my heart a little bit. Just just me, not me.
I'll be back. I'll be back.
I'll be back all. Right.
All right, well, let's jump intoMoto GP and, and, and talk about
that because that was also happening this weekend and
pretty crazy all around. I mean, you know, let's talk

(15:00):
about the qualifying sessions, you know, you know, I'll say
back now it was looking good in qualifying, you know, being in
the top, top top seven. You know what I'm saying?
I didn't say I, I can't say I expected more, but it was a home
track for him. So you thought it would have
been a little bit better. But what you guys?
Yeah, until he. Yeah, until he crashed out.

(15:22):
What do you guys think about that and what Bazecki did?
Because it seems like Bazecki's the only guy that's that's going
to, I want to say push Mark, butat least make mark, you know,
look back a little bit or look up.
What are your thoughts, TJ? You're.
Back. You're back, not back.
All right, we'll, we'll move. All right, we'll, we'll, we'll,

(15:44):
we'll move to Reese until you get it sorted out.
I I don't know if you had a chance to watch Moto GP while
you were at at CODA this past weekend man, but your thoughts
about qualifying and how those guys did?
No, I did watch it. I mean, getting up early and
watching it, but I mean, it was nice.
I mean, it was different. I mean, I think like, you're
right, I think Bazecki is the only one that's going to keep

(16:07):
Mark, as you want to call it, honest and keep him out there.
I think he's the actual one him and you know, maybe his brother.
But I mean, it was good. It was a good qualifying race.
Well, qualifying. It was a great Sprint race.
You know, I was kind of sad to see Mark crash out, but I
actually, no, no matter how muchI hated the guy, I won't play

(16:29):
in. You know, I'm kind of rooting
for him after that surgery, whathe had just take it all.
Yeah, I agree there. I, I won't say I'm rooting for
him, but I I respect what he's doing And, and you see it, you
can't and obviously you can't deny the caliber rider he is and
stuff like that. I'm not really actually, you
know, I'm not really mad at Mark.
I'm mad at that Ducati signed up, That's all.
Mark had nothing to do. I mean, obviously he got signed,

(16:51):
but like Ducati, they didn't need to sign them to win another
championship. Why?
Why didn't he need to sign them?You got to sign the best.
There's a long. There's a.
There's a long list of reasons why.
Who's who's out there that's going to beat that man?
Well, but it's today's, though. I mean, you think about it,
right? If you know you're going to win
the championship with the ridersyou already got, you know I

(17:13):
spend more money. Because you can make more money.
Right. I can make more money, yeah.
Well, that, that's that we'll, we'll find out at the end of the
year, see what sales are like, right.
I mean, sales is just one part of the equation.
You know, the, the win it on Sunday, buy it on Monday kind of
philosophy doesn't always work, right.
But you know, how many times cana team sign somebody like a

(17:37):
Michael Jordan to their team? You know, the Wizards sucked
when Michael Jordan went there, but they still have Michael
Jordan. They still sold more tickets.
They still sold more jerseys. They still sold more popcorn and
vending everywhere they went. Like they could ask for more
because they had a, a bigger package, a more talented package
to display. So, you know, sometimes you got
to look at it at that way, you know, I can sign Jorge Martin.

(18:03):
We didn't get hurt. I could sign Jorge Martin or I
can sign a seven time world champion that automatically
comes with a ton of fans and a ton of haters.
And the haters will pay to to hate on him.
You know, like I love the meme every time that Marquez goes and
races in Italy that Can you imagine paying $300 in as an
Italian to go Boo Marc Marquez? Like that's it.

(18:28):
Thousands of people are paying $300 to Boo Marc Marquez.
And at the end of the day, Mark is like, yo, I still get paid.
You guys are helping pay for forme to be here to make you feel
bad, you know, so, and, and if you look this past weekend, you

(18:48):
know, Ducati used Mark to launchthe new Rs models.
You know, they had the Diwali and they had the multi strata.
They did a whole marketing campaign.
So again, you got this instant swag by by by having somebody
like that. You know, why do people sign
LeBron James even though he doesn't win championships and
flops because he's LeBron James.He's going to give him people

(19:08):
into your audience. He's going to bring people to
your stadium. At least with Marquez you got a
seven time world champion that'sproven that he can go out there
and ride. Not missing Floppopolis that's
going. To I mean.
I hear that the. They build them a replica.
On the on the bench. Yeah, I heard that too.

(19:30):
But you know, he qualified 4th Bagnaya qualify a do you think
that put this all you guys? I hopefully you're, you're also
with audio TJ. Do you, do you think that what
Bizecki and Martine did to get Bizecki on pole?
Do you think Ryder teams should do that more often?

(19:50):
You punch a hole in front of thethe faster rider so they can get
the the few tents to get on it because I don't know if Bizecki
would have got that if Martine didn't punch that hole on the on
the straight. I mean, I think yeah, help each
other to try to get a better position.

(20:10):
But dude, I don't know it was I think it just Martine just
happened to be there. But it definitely helped Ozeki
get that that pole position for sure.
But I definitely do think that team should help each other
instead of, you know, like Mark used to do chase behind a rider

(20:31):
just to get his himself a betterposition.
So, but that fight is also good.It keeps everything competitive.
But it was pretty cool that to see Ben Zachy get up there and
get the pole position. I mean.
We thoughts, Reese, You think you guys might do that in
Jersey? I don't know we'll do it in

(20:54):
Jersey, but I mean, why not? Why not have a rider punch a
hole through it? If you got you know, you can
follow. And I mean, sometimes it's not
even sometimes it's not even team orders it just the two guys
will get out there and they'll get behind each other and
they'll actually just do it. But hey, I'm going to punch a
hole for you. Come on, let's go.
So it's it could it could be that so, but I mean, why not?

(21:16):
You know, you want to you still want to win the the constructor
title or something like that, But I mean, it can't right now,
Gotti, But why not try to put a slowdown to to Marquez's reign
or or get ready for the upcomingyear?
Why not? And you're right, because Mark
Bazecki helped Martine get into Q2, you know.

(21:36):
So what are your thoughts, Lewis, on that?
I mean, I don't again, I, I, I tend to agree with Reese.
I don't think it was necessarilyTeam Waters.
Maybe the two riders spoke aboutit ahead of time.
Hey, we catch each other on the track.
Let's try to help each other, you know, either told me or
punch a hole in the air for me or something like that.
It's qualifying. It's not the it's not the race.

(21:58):
So, but if you look at the time of the race, I don't you know,
I, I think Bazecki would have still been on the front row
regardless of whether or not Martine helped him.
I think Martine just gave him a couple more tents that got him
right to the pole position. But but Bazecki was still the
fastest guy outside of Marc Marquez the whole weekend.

(22:19):
And even Alex, you know, he had his flash of brilliance.
But again, that one lap speed, that doesn't mean you're going
to be consistent over the the length of the race.
You know who who gridded up in in 3rd place as the third
fastest guy? The guy who dropped like a
fucking anchor once the race started, Mr. Yamaha.
Why? Because you can't rent run your

(22:40):
fastest lap of the race for 27 laps.
That's physically impossible. You can stay within a certain
range, like of 1/2 a second, youknow, thirty, 1-331-630-1231,
You can do that. You can't run 30 flats for 27.
Your tires won't make it. You won't make it.
I mean, even at the end of this race, you saw Bazecki get off

(23:02):
the bike. My man was like, yo, I'm done.
I'm cooked. Like I had gave it all.
Like the dude looked like he wasready to pass out, like his eyes
were sunk in. He was so cooked.
So let me let me ask this what'sthe deal with Fabio and the
Pearls? I don't know, man.
I can't. I can't, I can't.
I don't know. Maybe they're his lucky pearls,

(23:25):
you know, like. I mean, I was just like, what is
what is he doing? But maybe, you know, he's
getting getting closer to to Godor something like that.
You know, who knows? Because I think that's the first
time I've seen a rider rock, rock the Pearl necklace like
like that. But you know, let's talk about
Marquez's crash. You know, these guy you talk

(23:46):
about being able to do, you know, qualifying times.
One lap him and Bazecki were both doing close to qualifying
times in the Sprint race, you know, in the one 30s, you know,
when he passed, when, when he passed Bez, You know, I, I, I,
before he crashed, I felt like he was going to crash because
like they were on the limit and I didn't think he needed to, to
push the limit. Fighting for the championship,

(24:08):
you know, wanting to stay healthy to finish the six, what,
5 rounds? I think we have left 5 or 6
rounds left, five rounds left. Do do you think that was too
much to push in a little bit toomuch for Mark?
For me or TJ. TJ.
TJ, you you with us? Sorry, sorry.

(24:28):
You go over yes, connection issues.
I don't know why I'm breaking up.
Yeah, man, you, you got, you gotsome serious connection issues,
man. No, I just mean, you know,
talking about the crash with Marquez in the in the Sprint
race and you know, you know, pushing close to qualifying

(24:49):
times for a couple of laps. Him and Bazecki.
Do you think it was like a little bit much?
He probably should have just chilled a little bit.
We'll throw it over to Lewis, man.
I, I, yeah, I don't think again,man.
Anytime you put your helmet on, you, you, you want to be the
best man. Sprint race practice,

(25:12):
qualifying. I don't think I don't think Mark
needed to do what he did as far as pass him and and and try to
quickly push away. I think the pace that they were
setting, they were going to separate themselves from the guy
in 3rd place regardless. I think they would definitely
put some distance. I think Mark should have just
let him do the donkey work. Let him be out front, let him do

(25:34):
all the the hard pushing. I mean, let him, let him be the
one to win it or be. And if you get the opportunity,
you know, when you get the opportunity with a couple laps
left, you know, I don't think Mark has a lack of speed.
As the tire grip goes down, he it seems he gets more speed.
I mean, him and Bizeki were trading fastest laps of the race
on lap 2526 and 27. I know, pretty so.

(25:58):
That's crazy. That's like, you know, so again,
in the Sprint race, which is half the distance, you're going
to tell me that he's not going to have tire come lap 13.
So you're thinking these guys are like, man, I could have
pushed harder then because they had so much grip at the end,
Yeah. I mean the Sprint race I would
have honestly man with, with thelow fuel load as early as they

(26:19):
get the low fuel load in the Sprint race with tires that are
still as fresh as they are. I mean, they could have probably
set lap records, you know, in lap 1213 and 1415 and 16 of the
Sprint race. So I, I, I think Mark just kind
of again, and he said it himself, it's a mental lapse.
You know, I got a little bit toooverexcited.

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I started, you know, thinking that something that I should
have been thinking and just thatone little lapse of
concentration and that's it. I crashed.
But he redeemed himself on Sunday where the points are even
bigger and he didn't make the same mistake.
And if you've watched Mark throughout the years, that's
kind of his MO. He crashes in practice to find
the limit and then he tries to avoid that same mistake during

(27:04):
the race. And this time he just, you know,
it kind of bit him a little bit.He should have just waited I
think a little bit more. But again, it's don't.
I've always told you don't deny that half second home track
advantage like Bizecki when you are in front.
And I was thinking about this man, when your family shows up,

(27:24):
when your friends are there, when everybody is there, when
you see the colors of your flag flying all over the place.
Trust me, man, you find that extra half second, you find that
extra little motivation to like go a little faster and and Benz
this weekend did an amazing job just doing that.
And I think again, this goes back to Mark, you know, wanting

(27:45):
to maybe annoy some fans that love to cheer when he crashes.
You know, he got them. He got them back on Sunday.
You know, you guys booed me or cheered when I crashed
yesterday. Well, cry your tears today, man.
Listen to the Spanish anthem right now.
Paid $300 to come listen to the Spanish anthem Thank You Italy.

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He gave them a messy at the end of the the race on Sunday.
That's harsh. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, let's talk about Aprilia.
And do you think, I mean, we talked about this early on when
Bez won. Is it is it safe to say, you
know, Martine is the #2 rider now?
I mean, I think it'd be hard to,but he has to, he has to win a

(28:30):
bunch of races before the the the pendulum switch.
I mean, he's been the number 2 rider.
He's been the number 2 rider. I don't think he ever was the
number one rider being honest. I mean, he's just the number one
plate, not the number one rider.So I mean, then when you left
and you did all your antics and nonsense of BS, it was like, all

(28:52):
right, we're going to, you know,it's like Embezz is there
dealing with it. And you kind of left your
teammate high and dry on like development or anything else
like that. Yeah.
I mean, it's safe to consider you.
You're the number two guy. You're not the number one guy.
We don't need you as the number one.
What are your thoughts, Lewis? I think he's the number three

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guy. They.
Might find Oliveira as a test rider, so you might be right.
Did they say that? Well, at least if he's test
rider, nobody can crash into him.
So he'll finish. He'll finish the testing
sessions, at least. He might be going to BMW 2 over

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in World Super Bike. Yeah, he might be going there
so. Yeah, that.
I mean, that's what he said. He says he wants to race, so it
doesn't sound like he wants to be a test rider yet.
Well, he can stay again. He'll I think he'll do well in
super bike. I mean, nobody, nobody hits
anybody there, so he should be fine.
But on the team, I definitely Martinez is the second rider.

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You know, Bez is kind of taking this opportunity and really made
the most of it. It was handed to him very early
in the season because early in the season he knew he went into
that team as the number 2 rider.You know, hey, they signed the
the reigning world champion. He's literally going to have the
number one plate on his bike. You know, I'm just going to have
to put my head down, put in the works and see what I can do to

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to just carry my weight. And then, you know, Martine got
hurt and then the whole controversy and even throughout
all that, man, you know, Bez just put his head down and kept
riding, rode it, rode through the problems, you know,
finishing outside the top ten, doing everything he can do to
get the bike to where it needs to be and just chipping away.

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And look at him now, man. You know, the dude is flying.
I mean, he's really making the Aprilia look like it is a direct
competitor to the Ducati. Like there's nothing really
separating the two bites right now, which is amazing.
And he lost his wings. And he lost the wing, you know,
he did it with a, with a half a wing, so instability in the
front end. But that might be a good thing.

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You know what cut that wing away.
We went faster without it. We don't need those wings.
No worries. Shit.
On on the heavy right hand tracks we cut the left wing off
and on the heavy left hand tracks we cut the right wing off
and we're good. Yeah, that that bike got too
many, too many wings too, just too many.

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TJ, are you back with us? What are your thoughts of
Aprilia and And You know #2 rider Martine?
See that way I'm going, yeah, I think I'm back with the
connection. Sorry about that.
And I don't know what's going on.
Everything was just static. But to me, yeah, Bez is
definitely looking like the number one rider right now.

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I mean, the way Martine ended this year and and going to a
career, it just didn't start with the right foot.
But he's going to have to take lead from Bez.
I mean, he's he has his his front foot forward.
Like I said, he's been on the dog.
I've been rooting for him as well this year and he's been
proven himself since the beginning of the middle of the

(32:07):
season for that matter. So it's for him to just prove
that he can still hang with Mark.
I thought it was just excellent data for himself to to have pace
with Mark for about 15 laps, youknow, just to keep pace, knowing
that he has the confidence that you know, to get better than

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what he what he is at now. And even though he came in
second. So I think it was a win overall
for Bezdecki for this weekend and I think was probably his
best, one of his best race weekends, if not tired, the best
as far as himself getting dated personally and the bike getting
dated and and you know, him doing better than my team right

(32:53):
now. So right, right.
But yeah, on the tire and all that stuff that fell off, I
don't know what's going on and Idon't, I don't know if that was
just cool one side of the tires.It just didn't last.
But it's an interesting part that they put on the bike.
Yeah, I, I agree. I think it's just one too many

(33:14):
wings for for for sure. Let's talk about the other
Ducatis, Djinn, Antonio, I mean Mobidelli, Fermandaleguia, Mark,
Alex Marquez. I, I, you know, what are you,
what are your thoughts on what they're doing?
They look pretty good in the Sprint, you know, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd,
3rd, 4th for those guys. Do you think that, you know, BR

(33:39):
46 Academy is going to, you know, they, they got the
inconsistency most of that thingbecause of more of a deli and
stuff like that just making bad mistakes.
We talked about it last week. They must have listened to the
show and, you know, came out andsaid, yo, it's over.
Don't, don't do this. Don't do anything else, man,
because you know, you might not be here next year.

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How they, how they look? Man, they look good.
I mean, more Videli look a lot solid.
I mean, he didn't cause any mistakes for running into the
back of anybody and getting grippenalty or getting caught up to
the steward office. Like, you know, getting called
to the principal's office say, hey, you need to come in here
and talk to me, you know. So I mean, it was kind of nice.
But the only thing about what I say with more Videli, he's very,

(34:22):
very, very inconsistent. It's like one day he's hot, one
day he's not. And it's like back and forth.
It's like almost like in the galas was it's like man, come
on, just stay consistent. You know, with Fabio and and Al
de Guerre, I mean Al de Guerre is still as a rookie, he's still
showing some pace and some brilliancy.
So I mean I look forward to see what he can do in the future.

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Fabio, I mean, I'm looking forward to see if he can
actually pick it up because you know, he had a lot of time where
he was hurt or he wasn't on the right bike.
So I mean, but now he's on the VR46.
He has a what 25 GP, So I look forward to see what he can do.
Alex, I mean, he's doing what Alex does just like another
Marquez. I mean, he was solid in the

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race, solid in the Sprint. So I mean, he's the, he's the
next in command as Marquez in the Marquez family.
When he's behind Mark, do you think he should just push a
little bit harder? I would say yes, but that's
like, you know what they say, don't poke a sleeping bear, you

(35:25):
know, let that bear lie or leavehim alone.
Like you start poking Mark, he'sjust going to turn up and now
you going to crash. He's going to another level and
you can't go to that level. You can't you can't go to that
upper room yet. You're not there yet.
And then I, I, from what I hear,they do live together, right?
So. You can't go to that room yet.

(35:45):
Now that's that's that's beyond your limit.
Leave that room alone. So I, I don't know.
I don't think I would. I don't think I would push Mark,
man. I think I would kind of leave
him alone. I I hear that it sounds like it
sounds like a Michael Jordan thing.
Don't, don't, don't look at him.Don't say nothing to him.
Just just keep going. Lewis, no doubt.

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Lewis, what are your thoughts? I mean, I, you know, talk about
Mobidal, his inconsistency. I mean, Valentino Rossi has to
be yelling at him. He has to be saying something is
like, yo, you're my boy. But come on, man.
Like, we, we got to do something.
I mean, it should have even gotten to the point where it had
to be the Stuarts have to talk to him versus, you know, Rossi.

(36:29):
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's six in one hand, half a dozen in the
other. He he's inconsistent, but when
he's consistent, he's always in the top five.
So it's like, you know, who elsecan say that they're always in
the top five? You know, all he needs to find
is is that one missing piece where he just settles down and

(36:51):
rides. And you know, I, I hate to say,
tones down his aggression because you need aggression in
this sport, but his aggression is the one thing that always
gets the best of him. You know, he he doesn't like to
get past. And when he gets past, he likes
to fight back right away, which is the way you're kind of
taught. You know, if you get past by the

(37:13):
next corner, you want to try to already get by him, but he tries
to get by him even though he can't get by them.
You know, he tries to squeeze a bike into a, a, a space, decide
that a credit card can barely fit in.
And that's where he gets into these problems where he hits
people. He, you know, he crashes himself
out, he crashes other people out.
He it's just dumb mistakes, man.And I, if he can get past that,

(37:36):
I mean, the dude would be a perennial top five guy every
race. I think every single race he
would finish in the top five. He's got the talent, he's got
the package. He just needs to like take that
deep breath when somebody passeshim and be like, all right, let
me set him up for a pass, Not yobonsai like, you know, kamikaze
on people like it can't be, you know, win it or Bennett is win

(38:01):
it or accept the fact that you're going to be in 5th place,
you know, make it, make what youcan do, do what you can.
Try your best to get that space back.
But if that guy passed you, chances are that you're the one
that's lagging. As far as the rest of the
riders, I mean the Jan Antonio, again, he does really great in
the sprints because they're short races.

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But over a long distance race, he can't seem to put it together
lap after lap. Or he only comes on at the very
end, but he comes on at the veryend when he's 17 seconds behind
the lead. So I made-up five spots on, you
know, in the last 6 laps. So I finished 8th instead of
13th. Like come on man.
Like it's the both. Both riders have this weird

(38:43):
inconsistency and, you know, I don't know how you train it out
of them. I don't know, you know, but
again, these are mental things that you really can't train.
You've already trained, you knowhow to ride a bike, you know how
to go fast, you know how to takequarters, you know how to have
to get, you know, now you just need to work on your mental
game. And then the, and then the other
one is Aldiguere. Aldiguere is definitely going to
win rookie of the year. Nobody's got anything to beat,

(39:04):
you know, close to him. Aldiguere is actually hoping for
a reverse Sprint race where the bikes start with the hot, the
tires already half used and halfthe fuel.
And my man will probably win therace because he starts with
fresh tires. He lags, lags, lags.

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And then we get to the halfway point when the tires drop.
All of a sudden my man starts going fast.
He's like, yo, where were you for the I think that they set up
his bike so much to work good onused tires and low fuel that it
actually makes it hard for him to ride the bike on new tires
with a fuel, full fuel load. And they need to find that
perfect balance. Man, he's like, I want the

(39:47):
Marquez set up. Yeah, I want the Marquez set up
when? The the bike's supposed.
To be shit, that's when I want to go fast.
But when the bike's supposed to be fast, I want it to be
unrideable. And the, the, I mean, the kid is
talented, you know, I, I, I hopethat Grassini can keep him.
I don't see him sane on the satellite team for very long.

(40:08):
You know, I definitely see within, you know, next year's,
the last year's deal, he's either going to end up on a
factory Ducati bike or whether he's on the Grassini team or
not, he'll be on a factory bike or he'll move to another
factory. You know, whether it's Yamaha or
whether it's Honda, like I don'tthis kid is too talented to stay

(40:29):
where he's at. I honestly believe at this point
right now, even though he's not in the greatest package, I think
he's actually doing better than Acosta did with KTM on a
consistent basis. And now you have Acosta on a
factory bike and obviously they're not paying the bills
because they losing chains and things are falling off and pipes
aren't in, you know? Yeah, I mean, you know, we, we

(40:51):
say, we say satellite team, but they are factory bikes.
It's just a year old Is it's notthe same like satellite, you
know, 15 years ago, 10 years agowhere parts had different serial
numbers on them. Well, are they really getting
the parts A? Year old bike you might be
getting your old parts too, you know.

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On a on a Ducati, that's not bad, right?
Because the 24 bike seems to be a little bit better than the
than the 25 as we see with Alex and, and how well Alex is doing,
right? Because we didn't think Alex is
going to do as well as he's doing coming from a 23 to a 24.
But we see that jump that he gotthis year on the bike.
Yeah, no, he he definitely is putting forward the the most

(41:34):
consistent push. So if you look at him, the Jan,
Antonio Morbidelli and Aldiger of the guys not on factory
bikes, he is the guy that's the most consistent.
But again, a lot of that I thinkis also his mental game is at
the strongest of anybody that's in the top, you know, 4 Ducatis
that aren't factory bikes. You know, I think mentally he's

(41:56):
the strongest guy on any given day.
I think Morbidelli and the Jan Antonio are as fast, if not
faster than Alex. Alex just has the mental game or
the mental part of it downright.Like he's going into every
weekend with the right attitude.He's going there every weekend,
relax, but knowing that he definitely has an opportunity to

(42:17):
win. And if you don't go into every
weekend thinking you can win, you already lost.
Like you got to go into every weekend like, yeah, I know my
brother's the fastest guy that'son a motorcycle right now, but I
can beat him. I know I can beat him on any
given Sunday. I could beat him.
And that's what you need. You need that.
You know, I don't care what he'sriding.

(42:38):
I know I could beat him. Talent wise, he's not more
talented than me. Equipment wise, we're on very
similar equipment. So we're really going to come
down to who's going to out talent the other rider this
weekend. And he's done it twice, man.
He's beat his brother twice. So yeah.
No doubt, yeah. Let's talk about KTM.
You brought it up a little bit there that, you know, the you
know, they praising them a week ago now it's just kind of like I

(43:00):
think, you know, the I don't want to throw too much shade on
the engineers, but they party too much last weekend and and
didn't quite catch up. Is that should somebody, you
know, you know, get fired for what happened?
Is it just, I mean, you know, riders crash and the bike's in
good shape and the riders still have their job.
So I guess getting fired is is out of the question.

(43:22):
But you know, at this level, youknow, haven't, you know, and we
know chains pop, we've seen it happen to Maverick and these
other guys and stuff like that. But to have two different bikes
on the same weekend with the same issue, they it it it, it
does cut into their stock just alittle bit.
What are your thoughts, TJ? Yeah, You know, it's like they

(43:46):
say it's all good just a week ago.
I think, I think, you know, for for what JT has been through and
then for last round for them to get so much glory for what they
were doing with like, you know, three of their bikes riding
together and competing and just getting a lot of shine and
actually finishing. Well, I think there's got too

(44:08):
much glory. I don't know, somebody did
something wrong, somebody's sabotaging or something.
But it's just kind of far fetched to see like 2.
I can see if a chain of different manufacturers probably
like, oh, it's a weird weekend, but two of their bikes to happen
in the same weekend. Somebody didn't sign something
right or they used something wrong.

(44:32):
But yeah, not only that, but butyou know, you know, they didn't
finish well, now everything finished well, Barry Bender.
So they had a horrible weekend, very horrible weekend compared
to last week, so. Right, Reese, what are your
thoughts? You know, you're in the paddock.
What are your thoughts, you know, on Acosta giving the bike

(44:54):
the finger after that and stuff like that?
Looked like he almost wanted to kick the daggone thing too is,
is that a bad look for the for to from the team to him when he
when he does something like that?
Oh, to the team from him, I should say, Oh, it's just heat
of the moment. Yeah, it could be the heat of
the moment, but it still looks bad.

(45:15):
I mean, it's like something, it's just it's you're, you're
popping chains, you know? I know riders crash and things
happen and you know, but it's like normally like us, we look,
you look over the whole entire bike, you know, you especially
with whatever side that it went down on, you know, you're,
you're taking a look at everything.
If you got to replace some replace it, you know, certain

(45:37):
many miles chain gets replaced. I don't know what the heck
happened, but it's like 2 bikes popping chains and it's like
you're not taking your master length.
Like I'm confused, like something just doesn't seem
right for two chains to pop, youknow, two different bikes.
That just doesn't make any senseat that level.

(45:58):
Right, is there an investigationgoing on or just a normal
investigation that you do? Is there?
Do we get the whole everybody together and talk about, you
know, you know, trying to be stronger, better?
I don't know. I don't know how you fix
something as as you know, I don't want to say simple as
this, because, you know, engine blowing up other things
happening. There's so many other bigger
things to worry about. Is it is it something that such

(46:20):
a small thing that you sometimesyou might overlook it?
No, you ain't go overlook that because everybody normally
you're going step by step. You know, you got a front guy,
you got a rear guy, you know, everybody's looking at certain
things and it's you know, I'm going to look over your work,
you're going to look over my work.
It's always like 2 to three eyessets on it, like going back over
it just to double check it. And no, it just doesn't make any

(46:44):
sense. Somebody's going to get, I don't
know if somebody's going to get fired.
I would not say, but some it's going to get a less of a
paycheck. It's going to be a deduction
somewhere like like, yeah, you got to get a deduction for this
one because it doesn't make any sense for two Chainz.
Like I got to use it. I could see if it was 1 and all
these guys are like Space Engine.
They're they're high class engineers.

(47:06):
You know, they're making stuff out of everything.
So you can't tell me you didn't check this chain out.
Like that just doesn't make any sense.
Something, something's wrong here.
Somebody missed something all. Right, Miss the numbers guy.
What do you got on the on KTM? And you know, you're in the back
office and and you know, you just got this money in and
everything. You're sitting here ready to
order your yacht and all this stuff.

(47:26):
And now this happened like, you know, do you do you spill your
coffee? What happened?
You got to take the mute off. You got to take the mute off.
That's how I'm working at KTM. I'm not ordering a yacht because
I'm broke. Well, you can order, yeah, you
just might rent it. I sold all my stock before they
before I went in the toilet. No, I turn around, be like,

(47:50):
look, I know we're cutting corners, but let's stop buying
chains off Timu because they don't work.
Let's go back to buying good chains and good master links.
You bought out the eBay. Because yeah, buying, buying
them on Timu is not working out for us guys.
Come on, let's work as a team, man.

(48:12):
I don't know who gets fired, man.
I mean, that's definitely something that as a team you
have to find the the cause of that error because you can't
have that error, you know, at this level, you can't have that
error. This is you can blow motors, you
can have other issues. And we spoke before the show,
you know, all bikes have a schedule.
And the schedule is how many miles or kilometers before we do

(48:35):
this, this, this and this. And, you know, a lot of these
bikes, the chains will run for acertain amount of miles, but the
chains will get checked in between every session.
They'll rotate the tire. They'll make sure there's not
any bent or damaged links. Like this is what Reece was
talking about. Everybody checks everybody's
work. So for two bikes to have the

(48:55):
same issue in the same weekend and I'm positive there's more
than one set of eyes that lookedover that chain.
You know, what's the issue here man?
Is it a manufacturing issue fromthe chain supplier or you know,
what were they using the same maybe chain rivet tool that
wasn't working properly So it looks like it riveted correctly.

(49:16):
I don't know man. There's so many things people
overlook a chain and, and it has, you know, one master link
and 1 rivet and that's it. Yeah, it is.
But you know, there's a lot of nuances to making sure that the
chain is right, making sure the rivet is tight, making sure this
is work, that there aren't any kicks when you put a rivet,
Making sure the chain flows, probably making sure the
sprockets are right, making surethere's not damage to the

(49:38):
sprocket that could damage the chain.
Like, but This is why you have ateam of guys.
This is why you have more than just one mechanic.
And for this to happen, I mean, this is probably KTM's worst
looking weekend, not just the way they performed on the track,
but just look wise, you know, this is, this is the kind of
thing that makes a team look amateur.

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And this is a very, very amateurlooking moment for them.
You know, not only did they haveonly one rider finish and three
riders DNF, you know, you had two riders in the same weekend
lose a chain. You had one rider that was in a
position to possibly get on a podium to lose a chain.
You know, as far as Acosta, again, this is a this is a

(50:22):
motion sport. So the emotions will get the
best of you and you will get pissed off and you know,
whatever. But when the temperature cools
down in the room, like my man, that bike might have failed you.
But that bike is also paying your check.
And the company behind that bikeis paying your salary.
And you have to understand that if you flip off their bike, like

(50:45):
that's not a good look. That's the kind of thing that
damages relationships because that image now lives forever on
our Internet. You know, if I want to make a
meme about KTM sucks, I'll literally pull up the picture of
their own writer in a KTM Red Bull suit giving the bike the
finger. Like this shit writes itself
man. You don't even need the writer

(51:06):
for the show. Like it writes itself.
The memes create themselves. So who has to apologize?
I think the team should apologize to him and then in
return, Pedro Acosta should apologize to KTMI.
Let the moment get a get a hold of me.
You know, it was, I was, I was in fourth place.
I was trying to race to get intothe podium position.

(51:26):
And you know, in the heat of themoment I did that.
But you know, I, I absolutely respect the team.
I absolutely respect the brand. I know you guys work just as
hard as I work. We win and lose as a team, you
know, But I'm out there, I'm putting my life on the line, and
for something like that to happen, obviously my emotions
got the better of me. I apologize.
That's that professional way to do it.

(51:48):
Well, you know the last time youknow something not necessary
chain happening, but unhappy rider.
You know that right end up goingto preview next year.
You think it's, you know, other mid teams are calling up Pedro
like, hey man, come this way. No, I mean, what is there?
There's a what on one ride left open?
Or two rides? 27 you know.

(52:11):
I mean, again, he's a talented writer.
If he's finishing strong enough and he's doing well enough on
the KTMA year from now, there's going to be team knocking on his
door. You know, certain level of
talent, people will follow you, people will want to work with
you. But you know, you have to just
that, right? Balance of talent and being an

(52:31):
asshole. And if the the assholeness
outweighs the talent, eventuallynobody's going to want to work
with you. Eventually you're going to move
from team to team to team to team, and then you're going to
find out there's no teams left after this team and no team
wants you because all the teams that worked with you before have
pretty much blackballed you. You know, this is the the
Vinales effect. Where does the Vinales go after
KTM? Nowhere.

(52:53):
Yamaha's not going to want him back.
He bought a bunch of stock, man.He's all, he's good.
His his only chance after this Ithink is he goes to Honda.
I think Honda's the only team that hasn't fired him.
Yeah, yeah, I think so. Speaking of Honda, let's let's
jump right into it. I I don't, I don't, I mean, I
think they had it does on paper,it might not look like they had
a good weekend, but I felt like Honda had a good weekend.

(53:14):
What do you, what do you, what do you guys thoughts?
We'll start with TJ. I mean, you know, mayor went
down so like that's a given every weekend.
So but overall, let's see, you know, Luca Marini finished 7th.
I I feel like he's been doing a lot better second-half of the

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season. He's finally find himself.
So yeah, I think Han is definitely improving slowly, but
shortly there's just a lot of still unfortunate situations
like with the mirror and then sometimes Zapo giving is all
going down. But I think going into next
year, they'll have a higher expectation to where to be, try

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to be better than, you know, a pro year or Yamaha for sure.
But I think they had overall good weekend.
Yeah, I, I think if Mia didn't crash out, he, he would have had
a, a good weekend. What are your thoughts, ERISA
on, on, on where Honda is? You know, Marini qualified 6th,
only dropped one position in both races.

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So that's that's, I mean, obviously it's, it's always best
to go forward, but at least, youknow, he didn't have a back
nine. What are your thoughts?
No, I definitely say Honda had agood weekend.
I mean, like I said, I mean Mir crashing out.
I mean, that's nothing really new.
I mean, that's that's like a give and take.
That's like Pekka being, you know, back where he's at.

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But no, I mean, Luka Marini has really shown some talent on that
bike. He's really pushed it up there
to the forefront. You know, Zarko is Zarko and
he's, you know, unfortunately hecrashed.
But I think once next year comes, he gets a factory bike.
I think he'll be up there in theup there in the top five.

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So I think they're actually doing very well.
They've actually figured out that bike.
They're actually pushing forwardand doing a showing a lot more
promising. And then my boys in Yamaha and I
just feel as though they're they're they're going to come
next year ready to play versus, you know, the boys in blue.
I think they're going to come ready to play all.
Right, we're going to move on tothat in a little bit.

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But what are your thoughts Lewison on Honda what Lucas doing
really good job and and Zaco, yes, it's tough, but it sounds
like from a Zaco of what I've seen on social media and stuff
like that, seems like he's not getting the same parts, which is
kind of weird. He's the only one that's won a a
a a a race this year. And you think that just on GP

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they should just give him the same parts?
You would think so, but you know, if it's not in your
contract and it's not something they have to do, it's not
something they will do. You know, it's just a business.
It's not a, it's not a, it's show business, not show friends.
So you you get what you contractually are obligated to
get. You can ask for extra, but if

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they don't want to give it to you, you can't really complain.
For me, I think everybody at allthe riders at Honda need to go
crash at Suzuka and come back asgood as Marini because Marini
ever since his crash at Suzuka is a whole new rider, like he's
riding on a different level. He's the he's now, I think this

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is his fifth top ten finish in arow, which is amazing, you know,
considering Rinz is technically the number one rider at Honda
and you know, he's either in thecrash truck or maybe in the top
10. Me.
Oh, you mean? I mean me, but yeah, Rinz is
always in the crash truck. Sorry about that.

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But yeah, Marini, Marini is doing great, man.
This is, you know, like I said, 5 top 10s in a row almost for
him, which is amazing considering where he came from.
You know, a lot of people are saying the the injury might have
cost him the second-half of the season and he actually came back
stronger. Whatever he did during that
break, all the Honda riders needto go do that, do that same

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thing that he did during his break and then come back and
ride again because either he gotrejuvenated, you know, he was in
the Lazarus pits. The DC Comics thing got a new
life, got a new life. But it's great to see Honda up
there. And I, I said this in the last
show or a couple shows again going into next year, I really

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believe Honda is in a better position than Yamaha because
more of their riders are finishing consistently closer to
the top. And today they had their or they
had their first big test on the V4.
And the feedback that has been being posted online hasn't been
very positive. Like, you know, Quadraro posted
something like it's actually a step back from the inline 4,

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which is, which is difficult to believe, But you know, Quadraro
is the fastest guy in an inline 4.
And if he says that it's a step back from the inline 4I mean
maybe that's just him motivatingYamaha to develop the motor more
and to get it to where he wants it.
But I believe he was about a second and a quarter slower than
his fastest time on the in line 4.

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Was he wearing his Pearl necklace?
No, he wasn't. So that might also account for
the extra half second faster. You know, pearls make you fly,
man. Pearls make you fly.
Make something happen. But yeah, let's talk about
Yamaha a little bit more and, and I'll say this and you know,
you a Reese, you know, you're the professional and all this a

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new engine, a different characteristic than they've ever
done in, in, in Yamaha and stufflike that.
You know, if it was too, if the test was two weeks from today
or, you know, enough time, do you think Quattro, I would have
had the same statement on socialmedia because it, it, it's, it's
going to feel different. The Revs are going to be
different. Could it just he just needs time

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to just get adjusted? Not really.
I mean, I think they are, they are just those riders kind of
adjust very fast to their situation.
You know, normally they can adjust, they can figure it out.
They can feel this difference. I mean, you know, our guys can
jump on something different and feel the difference like, you
know, quick, fast and hurry. They can feel the difference
between tires like all right, soI I don't know what the whole

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scenario is. I mean, it's so like, like Lewis
said there, I saw it today, there was something saying
Quatro was saying that it feels worse.
I don't know if that was something that he said or was it
a post or whatever. I'm like, all right, maybe it's
not, but I mean it just, if it is, it's not a good look.

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It's really not a good look if it is.
I mean, I know it's a stepping stone and it's just a start, but
I mean, you still have time to figure it out and get more into
it. But I mean, look, man, the
clock's ticking. You're going to lose your rider.
You know, we we've seen in the past riders switch manufacturers
and it takes them a whole seasonto get up to speed.
I know you say these guys get quick, fast, in a hurry, but

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like, you know, sometimes, you know, we see Bastianini where
he's at today versus when he first started on the KTM, same
thing with Maverick and stuff like that.
So I mean, you know, do you think that we hope that he
didn't say it? But if he did say it, do you
think that's, you know, again, something that you know needs to
be said because you still need alittle bit adjustment?

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You do. But then that comes down to the
two parties working together, you know, from the rider telling
the crew chief and then the crewchief actually implemented to
the team to figure the fix it. Because if the rider can't talk
to the crew chief and tell him what he was wrong and crew chief
can't fix it. If the crew chief is an idiot

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and the rider is telling you this and not going to do it,
it's it's like like one hand washes the other hand.
So it's like you get the riders got to learn how to talk to the
crew chief and explain what is exactly going on, and now it's
like I got to figure this out onwhat's going on.
OK, Lewis, what are your thoughts, man?
OK, TJ, go ahead, jump in. Oh, I mean, you had some, I

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mean, I, I, I know everybody's decided to see this before and,
and it's a, it's a, it's a big change, you know, like I think
can't. Wait to see this.
Oh yeah, I can't wait for it's ready for us to ride, you know,
well, let them get the kicks outthe way now, you know, but I
feel like everyone wants the results right away.
And I don't think just one test is going to just you're going to

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see so much improvement. And it's also a different, you
know, engine. So, you know, Fabio is
definitely the one that to dial it in, I'm sure.
So I just can't wait to see see a couple more tests on him to
see what it can do, But I don't know.
I just I just I just can't wait.But I was going to ask the the

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laptop that they're going now onit.
Like obviously there's room for improvement.
So for fabulous saying that it'sslower or feel slower, does that
really matter at this stage? Like what what do you really
want to see or or feel when you go out there and test this at
this time, knowing that he bustshis ass and pulled out a 137 and

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then this this V4 I think did like a 139 or 38 or something
like that. So I mean.
You do know that inline 4 makes more power than the V4, right?
What you say, but what you know,I'm just saying like what it
what like what do they really expect it to be faster at this

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point going out there? So that's that's I just can't
wait for them to like dial it inand and tune it a little better.
So. I, I would, I would, I would
send a retort to that from Fabiothat would say you guys been
developing this bike for about 17 God damn years now.
You telling me you can't come with a better engine?

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That's that's as as Quadraro. That's what I would say.
Like I've been waiting for this engine since like 2020 and now
you guys come with this engine and it's still can't even beat
the engine I'm on now. How it's going to beat Ducati
that's been making this V4 for years now they're just going to
kick our asses even worse. Like why are we going backwards?

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Like you guys should bring me anengine today that's going to
blow my pants off, not give me an engine.
Be like, hey, you're going to have to work on this to get it
to where my current ship box is at.
So I got to go ship box backwards to get your ship box
current before I get to ship boxforward.
Come on. Is it just engine and chassis

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has not changed a little? Nothing.
Is it literally just they just took the engine and just put in
the same chassis? No, if you look at the
dimensions of the bike, they definitely made some changes to
the bike to be able to fit the engine like, but even then, I
mean, this is things that engineers know how to do and how
to still get the same dynamics out of the bike.
And Reese will tell, you know, Reese will tell you, these guys

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will show up with an engine thatis reinforce so it can hold the
stresses of the torsion of the motor.
It will show up with a, you know, a reinforced steering
column of fully adjustable steering head, multiple
positions for the swing arm. Like they just don't show up
with a motor and stick it in theold frame.

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Be like yo go ride. Like there's a lot of other
development that goes around thebike.
But the core of this is the engine.
Like we've they've been asking for an engine that can compete
with the Ducatis and the Aprilias and everybody else
that's on the V fours that's outpowering them down the
straightaways because they get more drive out of the corners.

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Because that's the dynamic of a of a twin type of engine is you
get more low end torque. So you can get that bounce out
of the corner and that helps youreach that higher top speed
because you got that initial bounce instead of like a inline
4, which might not get that additional bounce has more top
end. But what good is the top end if
the bike's already 10 bike lanesin front of me when it's time to

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get to the braking zone? Like that's the dynamic they're
trying to get to. So if he's saying it's worse
than what I have now, if that's a true statement, maybe that's
just Quattraro trying to push Yamaha to make it even better,
bring me something even better. Like I need to be competitive
today. I can't keep riding at 10 plus

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just to try to finish in 6th place.
And how much of that is is it isany of that fall back on the
test riders They have, I mean, granted, kind of crush knows is
is out of Yamaha now is any but we you know, we got Fernandez as
a test rider. He's he's he has less experience
in Moto GP than than than than all the Yamaha guys.

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Is any of that fall on those guys to say, you know, y'all
didn't see something or is it all on on Yamaha Corp?
It's probably a combination, youknow, I don't think it's only on
the test riders. I think it's a combination
because the test riders are testriders because they're not Moto
GP champions, they're not perennial at the front winners.
You know, they retire and they become test riders or they can't

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find a career in GP or World Superman going to become test
rider. I mean Stephen Brattle was the
Honda test rider for years and he's a very competent rider.
He's a top level rider. He never really was the fastest
guy Moto GP, but he can tell youwhat it takes to be that fast.
And then that last five 10%, thefast guys have to develop that

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last five 10%. So I'm sure that they got plenty
of data from whoever the test riders are and we'll see who
their new test rider is going tobe now that Kyle Crutchell is
out. But.
Dovey. Oh, is it?
I mean, Dovey knows how to win. No, Dovey knows how to go fast.
So I don't think he's going to not know how to go fast.
And he can give them a lot of data of what they did also at

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Ducati. But again, they just got to
bring the package up to speed. They got to find that extra
510%, whatever it's going to take.
You know, you can't give a top rider a worse package.
You got to give him something atleast close to where he's at
that he can move forward with. Anyone else want to add anything

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to the new Yamaha? Baseball, I think it's the
track. They they, it's that Majello or
something be different. Yeah, but you got to race at
every track, yeah. You got to make.
Motor that's only been at 1:00. Track.
I'm saying it's a tense. They're just, you know, I feel
like, you know, it's. No, but this is the perfect time

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to have a test. The reason you have a test right
after race weekend is you have all the data from the race
weekend and then you can go out there and try these new parts
and see how they change the datathat's coming back.
So they just raised the entire weekend on the inline 4.
They know what they can do on the inline 4.
They put the V4 out there and when they compare the data side
to side, you can literally see how much better or worse the

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inline 4 is in the different areas.
Like you can go corner by cornerand see, hey, the V4 was
actually 1/10 faster here, but it was a quarter second slower
here or it was this here with and then you see at the
consistency lap after lap. Is this just that one lap?
This rider didn't judge the corner correctly.
So he's a second, you know, a 10th of a second faster, slower.

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And then you overlay both datas.I mean, there's a lot of numbers
crunching behind this and you try to find what would be the
perfect lap on the V4, what would be the perfect lap on the
in line for. And let's find where the
differences are and see what we can do.
Now let's go back to the drawingboard.
Let's develop this a little bit more.
Let's figure out where we're weak and try to get it up and

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beyond with the inline 4 is. Yeah, they don't have to.
They end up going back. I mean, the inline 4 is pretty
much maxed out. So this is their statement
Grace, right? So they're going to have to
develop it now because the test didn't really show much.
Yeah, but and Reese, like Reese,you'll be the best guy for this.

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But when you develop a motor like that, you spending
millions, you're not spending 10s of thousands.
This ain't a super sport. Motor in motor America is like
18 grand. This is millions of dollars
you're spending. And are you spending it just to
go racing or do you hope to one day sell that motor?
Because remember, Ducati and Aprilia sell V fours.
Honda del. Yamaha does not sell V fours.

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Because I hear Cali's trying to make a new motor from what
someone told me this weekend. But the problem is it's costing
them $2.5 million to make a new motor because, you know,
everything is lighter weight. The new crankshaft, the rods,
everything is lightweight now, so it's too heavy.
So they're trying to figure out one, but it's going to cost them
so much money. Yeah.

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So, Reese, you're not looking forward to the V4 trickling down
to the R1? I mean give me an inline 4.
It'll be a little skinnier, you know?
I mean, yeah, be a little hottertoo.
Be a lot hotter. Your balls just the.

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Decree A Honda V fours don't gethot man.
I had one don't get. Hot, I mean, but if you know, if
you can, if you can redesign an inline 4, you can redesign an
inline 4 and make it have more power than that V4, right?
It was V. 4 Yamaha then in Moto GP.
Well, I mean that motor is just is over.

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It's like the 70s. It just don't have it.
You got to figure that out. But like like Lewis said, I mean
it's just literally like with the V4, you have so much torque
at the bottom and it delivers the power smoothly and higher
than the inline 4. The inline 4 is top end, but

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like you said, if you're alreadywet, you know 12 places behind
by the time I try to catch up toyou.
What the hell am I doing? I'm not going to make it.
I'm not. I'm missing that level.
So you can make more power out of LN4, but the way the V4
delivers its power, that's wherewe're at.
It delivers its power different.Yeah, yeah, I can.
I mean, you know, to go to MotorAmerica, Race one and Race 2

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with Cam on the BMW, you know, they made the bike a little bit
slower and he went a little bit faster.
You can see it coming down the back straight away.
He could just but Cam is on the you know, BMW is an inline 4.
But you can see the power difference and you can see the
power difference with Josh. You can see the power difference
is there. I mean, I think the top speed

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was 197 and we were clocked that.
Yeah, something like that. Not bad, not bad.
Let's let's talk about Motagi before we get out of here.
Is it kind of status quo Marquez, Marquez or you know, is
it safe to say he's going to winthe championship in Motegi or
it's possible it could even be stretched out a little bit
longer? No, it's over.

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He did kind of take a press conference.
I think the attention is finallyslightly on Alex to do good, you
know, for these last couple of rounds and you know, he's been
excited and you know, you see the trying to have him bounce
back a little bit, but you know,there's nothing else can do.
It's over. It's over, I give it up.

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Yeah, I don't see Alex winning the Sprint and the the race and
I don't see Mark crashing out ofthe Sprint and the race.
So short of those two scenarios,you know, I don't think it'll go
pass with Taggy and I think thiswill be the 4th time or fifth
time that Mark actually wins thechampionship at Mutegi.

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Wow. But this will be the time that
hurts Honda the most because every other time he's been on a
Honda and this time at the Hondaofficial home track, they get to
see a guy in a Ducati winning attheir home track, which I'm sure
that's fire on the Honda's ass. Yep, your old guy is out there
whooping your ass. Yep.

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And you know, last thing, I guess is how how should Alex
look at this? Because I mean, he's had he this
is his best season in Moto GP. So it is a win for him
finishing. I mean, he still hasn't finished
second. So we don't know.
We got a lot some rounds left and I don't know, I don't have
the points up in front of me, but it's possible.
You know, anything can happen bythe end of it.
But it's a good, it's, it's a good year for Alex, right?

(01:13:36):
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean unless pecker, no pecker
going to catch him. Well, Bez is 1011 points behind
Petco, so I I think, I think Bezis probably going to finish
third in the championship. Well, that was a given.
Beka can't even finish a race. Yeah, I think, I think Alex is

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going to definitely, I mean, he should be real happy.
I think he's scored more points this year than he's ever scored
in his life at this level. If he stays on track the way
he's at right now, he might actually finish with 400 points,
which, you know, and a couple ofyears ago, 400 points, you would
have been Moto GP champion, 400 points.

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So I think he should walk away, you know, with his head held
high. I mean, the dude came out of
nowhere. Nobody expected him to be in the
positions he he's in. Nobody expected him to do as
well as he did this year. Expected this to him.
You know, he's got zero pressureon him.
He goes and rides. He does well and everything's
everything's great. But I don't see the I don't see

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the championship again going going past this weekend unless
unless it's a crazy freaky, something freaky Fridays.
Isn't it raining with Davi and Lorenzo on the Ducati and and?
Mark out there it does. I will say this, it does rain
pretty often at Mutegi. It does rain pretty often in
Mutegi so, but I still don't doubt that Mark will throw it

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down a tube. And even if he does, then he'll
just win at the the following event, I mean.
He's just so far ahead. I mean, he's already broken the
points, the points scoring record with still 5 rounds to
go. And I think somebody said this,
that he has the opportunity to possibly exceed 600 points in a
season, which he yeah, which would be like almost 100 points

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more than last year when Martineset the record at like 506
points or something. Yeah, 5 or 7, I believe.
Yeah. So that's crazy, dude.
Like 600 points. It's going.
I don't see that happening againfor a long time. 600 is a lot of
points, man, lot of witness and greatness.
Witness and greatness. We are.
We are. Indeed, it's it's it's it's it's

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it's a beautiful. Thing to watch and see what's
happening in Moto GP right now, what he's doing for sure and you
know the rest of the field you know all they can do is just
wake up and try to be better thenext day.
At least they know where the baris.
So or the corner bar, whichever one tie.
No doubt. I want to thank you guys for

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coming on TJ 2. Wheels and two wheels and
coffee. The Rio Luis Ortega, the numbers
guy Reese from Mataki Yamaha performance, right.
Drive safe Reese. See you in Jersey.
Make sure you get more than themtwo T-shirts from You know Who
You Owe me a Hoodie T-shirts. A whole bunch, man.
I'll take. 1. I'll bring what he got that.

(01:16:40):
Means he's only bringing 2 more than two.
I just can't guarantee what's going to fit you.
All I need is the XL man Italian.
XL is different than American. XL.
That's all. Well then I need A2 XL there.
Give me two XL. Oh, no doubt.
Take it easy, fellows. Peace.