MotoGP Testing, KTM's management, rumors, MotoAmerica, Suzuki and off-season discussed in S5 Ep 42

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3 so much just umm, you know, time tests, time attack matters
in these tests and situation. And what are your thoughts on
all you guys on Baja coming in and with Katie?
Is it is it certain brands you, you start to umm, you know, put
stickers on their car because you don't like them anymore for
next year. Should Suzuki be doing more for
for the motorcycle culture? What would you be doing right

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now for your offseason prep for next season?
Talk about some of the prep stuff that you guys do.
What are your thoughts when you hear people say, you know, so
it's too expensive to go to track.
That's why I don't go. Welcome back to another edition

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of the Be Forever Cool podcast. My name is Rex 45.
And it is a holiday week for us and for most people in the
country. So we're going to make it light
and have a little bit of fun. We're going to talk a little bit
of Moto America, some testing inMoto GP.
It's the offseason for some of us, not everyone.
So, you know, we're going to find out who still has to work.

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But the rest of us are trying toput our bikes back together or
get something fixed and all thatfun stuff.
So should be a good entertainingshow.
So definitely keep it locked. Let's bring the first person in
and see what he's been up to. TJ, man, welcome to the show.
How you doing this tonight? Are we doing good over here?

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You know, you know, we always bring up my Patriots go.
Ahead and say it. Go ahead and say it 'cause if.
We don't we still win. We're we're still winning.
I think it's time for you guys to start being worried who guys
you know, just the rest of the league, just the.
Rest of OK, most of you guys, man, you like you're lumping me

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in that you have to say the restof the the people out there that
I you know, it's, it's hard to say because it is a fluke.
I mean, they're telling too. They got the best record in in
the league, which is very surprising for everyone.
So I don't think I, you know, I'm not going to say where
they're going to end up. I mean, anything is possible,
but I don't know if I see that that that ult, that trophy at

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the end, but anything is possible.
So you're excited that the Patriots are winning and it's
nice and warm in Boston. Yeah, it's warm up here, you
know, sunshine, it's a nice 45° so, but you know, it's just
getting ready for, you know, thenext season and, you know,

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motorcycle racing to come up in February.
So that's all I'm looking forward to now that test
testing's over and Moto GP and all the series is over.
So all. Right, man, it's a tough time.
You got to you got to look in the mirror and find that you
know you don't have a life outside of motorcycles.
What do we do? No.

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Doubt. No doubt.
Reese, man, welcome to the show.What's good, man?
I mean, you know, I we don't letthe cat out the bag.
Apparently you're still at the racetrack, so, you know, you're
living the dream still while therest of us are looking at
reruns. What's good, man?
Yeah, it was good, man. You know, you can call it living
a dream, but you still got to work, man.
You still got to get ready for the upcoming season, man.

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So And the answer Tji don't knowabout them Patriots.
I mean, you still got to. You still got to, as they say,
you still got to come to Philly.OK, OK, OK.
You got to get that cheese steak.
Still got to come to Philly, Still got to come all.
Right, that's what's up, man. We'll bring you Lewis in and
we'll find out where you've been, where you're at testing

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and all that fun stuff. Lewis, man, welcome to the show.
What's good, man? What's going on man?
How was your weekend? You know, I went out on my bike
yesterday, man, and I, I probably did close to 300 miles
on on the V4. I found some roads that are not
straight in Florida. So I will say they are roads

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that are not straight. But they were flat.
Not a little bit of elevation, but you know, I mean, there's
just a lot of farm, a lot of farmland.
I'm I was wondering if somebody was going to come and and start
yelling, you know, keep the noise down by, you know, cloud
exhaust is passing your crib, you know, so, but what's good

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with you, man? I got out on the lawn mower.
I was doing at least 7 miles an hour.
It was. It was riveting, super exciting.
Gotcha, gotcha. I don't know how much lawn you
have, but occasionally, you know, I'm like, I could probably
cut like more jello in my, my yard cutting the grass.

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I don't know. I don't know if I have enough
time and patience to do it, but it crossed my mind to make a
little grass racetrack. I I have enough lawn where the
first time I went to mow this lawn I I rented a push mower and
about an hour into push mowing Iwent and took that mower back
and bought a riding ward becauseI still had 80% of the grass

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left to cut even with the push mower.
Listen, man, that that I I give people credit that go out there
and cut and use those push mowers because you need
something that's ridable for sure.
But let's talk about racing and motorcycling and and all the fun
stuff we do like single cylinderengines as well as those in
lines and all that fun stuff. Guys, I don't even know where to

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start, but let's start. You know, testing happen over
after the last round. Toparak was able to come out and
and ride that V4 Bulla goes out there.
How much of testing, how much, how much does it depend dictate
what happens through the season?Is it more just kind of a
shakedown more for us, the fans?You know, Reece, you can attest

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more than the rest of us becauseyou're going through testing
right now. You know, there's something that
you're saying here saying, man, I could have stayed home and
take a nap, but are you locked in 100%?
What are your thoughts TJ on on testing over over in Europe Moto
GP? I mean, the fact that they just
came off of AGP race and testingat the same track, you know, I

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don't know how much data they can actually get out of what
they were performing, you know, all season.
So I think it's more of like a shakedown just to see what the
new bike can bring you. And, you know, everybody has a
different goal at this point. You know, that's per SE like

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Diego Moreira is his first time 1 of GP bikes.
So his take on is just to get get the feeling right, you know,
get used to everything and see how the controls work.
So that time is precious for him.
And you know, like for Fabio, like he's trying to figure this
V4 out and he's probably the best example to make this bike

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go the fastest. So he's probably trying his
hardest to figure the bike out and, you know, get get a fast
time. So I think it's just a shakedown
just to feel things out and, youknow, before the actual, the,
the real test comes in very before the season.
Right, right, Reese, how much just, you know, time tests, time

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attack matters in these tests and situation and in a case like
Yamaha as far as the V4, I know you guys are not testing a brand
brand new engine, but I'm sure you you guys are trying
something new. How much is the, the 1st testing
session? How much does that matter for
you guys? And, and, and what are your
thoughts on GP with what they'redoing or what they did over
there for testing and stuff likethat?

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Yamaha. But you know you can you can
talk about all other brands except for Ducati.
I mean, this test, I mean, it's pretty much just a winter test.
I mean, it's pretty much like a shakedown test.
This is trying some new things, see what new things is going to
work, you know, so they can work, we can work on over the
winter. You know why we have plenty of

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time and then like for the new guys coming in like over there
in GP, it's like kind of get a feel for the bike.
You kind of see what works best,what doesn't work or you just
kind of just feel where you're at this kind of get your feet
wet in the in the in the water. So that's pretty much it.
It's the time attacks in here isnot really that big.

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It's just like I said, it's justmore of a shakedown.
The time attacks will start coming when it starts getting
into closer to the season and you know, getting more prepared
into it just now to like TJ said, it's just more of a
shakedown test. That's all it really is.
Now, what do you thought, do youthink that, you know, testing
that like the first Test should happen a little bit later rather

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than the day after, a couple of days after you got you got the
the award ceremony and then the day after, it's really like some
of these guys may still be kind of hungover showing up.
It could be, but no, I think it's kind of good.
I think it's kind of good that it is a day afterwards after the
wars. I mean, because you got the, I
mean, first of all, you're renting a facility out, you
know, God knows how much the facility costs to rent and the

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EMTs, everything else. But then you also have to
realize that, you know, they they're flying all of their
equipment over or bringing theirequipment over or driving
however far it is. They got to bring it, but
they're bringing all their new equipment, all the new bikes
that they're actually adding on.So it's time like while you're
still kind of fresh, you just got off the track.
It's kind of, you know, hey, let's try it before we take our

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long winter break and figure it out to see what's going on.
Because when they come back fromtheir winter break, everyone's
kind of now it's time to get back into it and to get back on
the field of things this way. It's still kind of everything,
still kind of fresh in their mind.
OK, OK, no doubt Louis for your thoughts on testing and and
time. I've seen a lot of people post

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time of you know who these new guys are faster than and all
that fun stuff. Is it just, you know, food for
thought or just a click bait? You know is it is it where you
know, you know you like, you know your brand and other brands
are trying to work out deals andstuff in the background.
What are your thoughts man? I mean, there's a lot of things

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that happened during testing, especially this particular test,
the test right after the last event of the year.
Obviously there's some new pieces that come out.
But this isn't really like, likeReese said, this isn't really
the test where all the new goodies show up.
There might be some new goodies and everybody's got a different
idea of what this test is for. You know, on the Yamaha side,

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you know, Top Rack wants to go out there and prove that he can
ride this bike at a higher level.
So he's going to be pushing a little bit more than somebody
else. And since he has no point of
reference, his point of reference is just how fast can I
go on this motorcycle? Whereas somebody like Jack
Miller, who on the time sheet showed up a little bit slower
than Top Rack, He might already know what he needs to do in this

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time with this time with his newmotor because he's already been
on the bike with the motor and needs to see what the evolution
of the motor is. So he's going out there and
looking at something differentlythan someone else.
So everybody has their own agenda for these, for this
particular test, the next coupleof tests are are going to be

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incrementally more important because they're going to be
leading to the beginning of the season.
And again, this is, I don't wantto say practice, practice is
super important, but this is practice.
You know, the guy, the fastest guy that puts a time down in
practice doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be able to
apply that to a full length raceor something else.
He might put on a set of qualifying tires and go out

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there and see what's the fastesthe can go.
Or somebody else might just go out there and just want to see,
you know, hey, how does this track with this weather
condition, how many laps can getcan I get out of a soft tire?
How many taps can I get out of amedium tire?
How can we change the power delivery to get more power with
without eating up the tire? How can we do you know?

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So everybody's got a different plan and the people that are at
the front at the end of this year should start next year more
or less in the same position andaren't going to be as desperate
to look for those big increases.They're going to look for
incremental increases. So your Ducatis and your
Aprilias are going to try to continue build off the success
they had at the end of this yearand carried on to next year.

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Ducati might have a little bit more work to do because now, you
know, they've had a year of 1 rider having a lot of success
and other riders not having as much success.
And now Marquez, Alex Marquez isgoing to be on a factory
supported bike. So that's going to change the
dynamics there. And there's, you know, there's
even some politics that we'll talk about later going on with

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the Grassini team and the factory Ducati team and how the
VR46 team is maybe feeling a little left out because now
they're not going to have possibly a full factory bike
next year. It's like that reggae song
rumors them spreading for real, Yeah.
So, so, but it's still a good, it's still a good event for, you
know, there was a couple of Moto2 guys and even a Moto three guy

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that was allowed to go out thereand ride the bike just as a
reward for doing so good. And for those and for those guys
that get that opportunity to go out there, one, they get to see
this is possibly in my future. This is what I have to look
forward to. And maybe it also is an idea of
where the factory teams or otherteams to see, hey, let's see how
this 17 year old or 18 year old reacts in this situation.

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And is this someone we think maybe in the future we want to
see here? It's a lot of things going on.
You think you think Rossi was like via take, go out there and
get the bike because mobility doesn't want this.
I mean, they're, they're lookingfor riders, man.
You know next year is going to be the craziest silly season
because I think almost every single seat in the paddock is up

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for bids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
I think everyone is up next year.
There's no one that has the nextextension beyond next year, but
maybe Bender because he signed that ridiculous deal way back
when. That six year deal or whatever.
I think that was a win for Bender, not not KTM.
Well, it. Might be a win for Bender, but

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now with KTM finally being completely under this new Baja
management group. Yeah, well that.
Contract is as good as toilet paper.
Yeah, let's talk about that and we'll talk about the rumors
before we move into Motor America and what's happening
there and all that fun stuff. But what are your thoughts on
all you guys on I mean, I, I think all you, you, Reese and

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and TJ know about Baja coming inwith KTM, right?
Yeah, I heard about it. Yeah.
All right. All right, let's talk about it,
right. Yeah.
You know, well, Lewis, Lewis in on, on on the details.
Because I, I, I, you know, I know you delivered the pens for
people to sign these contracts with.
So you're in the room. A lot, a lot of big numbers

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here, man, a lot of big numbers.So Baja has officially taken
control of KTM as an entity. They've changed the name of the
company or that managing companyto a different name.
So even though the brand is still going to be KTM, it's now
owned and managed under a different brand equity name.
So it's not KTMKTM Motors, it's something completely different.

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One of the big thing that's going to happen in the next 6 to
8 months or year is any time a company absorbs another company,
the first thing you do is you fire all the coaches and you get
your own coaches, especially if you don't trust them.
And if a lot of these coaches ora lot of these CEOSCMOSCOOS LED
this company into this battle, financial ruin, you ain't going

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to keep them. So you're going to see a lot of
heads rolling. You're going to see a lot of new
people be putting into place, like over the next few months.
I expect them to announce a new CMOA, new CEOA, new CEOCOO, and
then how's that going to? How's that?
Yeah, the entire C-Suite is getting cleaned out, new rugs
coming in. But how's that going to affect

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every tier? One of the things that we're
already hearing is that some of the manufacturing is going to be
moving to India and other placeswhere Baja already makes their
cars to try to reduce the costs and so forth and so on, make it
a little bit easier for them. Obviously, this is an Austrian
company. A lot of people that have bought
KTMS over the year bought it because it was built in Europe

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or European brand. You know, how is that going to
impact quality? How's this going to impact
supply chain? How are parts going to become
available? You know, these are all
questions that unfortunately it's going to take time for
answer these to answer these. The realm we're interested in is
racing what's going to happen totheir team?
And right now the rumors are that they might actually sell

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the licenses to two of the seats.
So instead of having 4 KTMS out there, there might only be two
KTMS out there in the next year to two years.
Or they might be completely getting out of Moto GP unless
they can find some really deep pockets that want to fund the
program and keep it up and running.
Because Baja, if you look at allthe big manufacturers that deal

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in volume, they're not in Moto GP.
There's no, you know, Kymco or Kim Kymco in Moto GPCF.
Moto's trying to get there. You know they're trying to.
CF Moto. They're in Moto 2 and Moto 3.
Is a Chinese company that has a lot of Chinese backing and they
have very big plans for that company.
Of all the Chinese brands right now, CF Moto is considered their

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Honda, or they're Harley, let's put it that way.
And even though, like, if you look at their bikes, it looks
like they stole a little bit from a Ducati and a little bit
from the Honda and a little bit from an Avia Gusta, they're
still building really good bikes.
And the quality is definitely good from what I hear from other
parts of the world where they sell in huge volume.

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And now they're trying to penetrate the bigger markets,
which is Europe and the US. Right.
So do you think Baja may kind ofsee what CF Moto's doing or you
just think they're going to kindof just, you know, look at their
bottom line? And because you know, when most
times when companies are bought and, and, and as publicized as
KTM has been, you know, it's usually doesn't turn around

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until the company's all sold again, right?
That the the the first buyers don't usually fix the problem.
No, no, I would say that for themost part, except this is not an
equity firm. This is actually a car
manufacturer and a car manufacturer like when you know,
when the VW Group bought Ducati,they didn't buy it to flip it.

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They bought it to build it up toa stronger company.
And now you look where Ducati isat.
So they were, they did it the right way.
If this was a private equity firm, I would say, hey man, in
about four years all these people are going to be gone
again. But since this is an actual car
company, I don't see that happening.
I think they really are planninga long term strategy with KTM,

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but I don't think that that willbe in Moto Gpi.
Think they'll keep KTM in Moto 2and Moto 3 and even Moto 2?
Doesn't really make sense because the motor is not your
motor. You build the frame and you
build everything else, but you're stuck with whatever
motor, the Triumph motor, or whatever motor is the
homologated motor. Right.
And, you know, and I know Reese is probably thinking this and so

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is TJ, but like, what about the Junior Cups and all these other
places that KTM is so immersed in this, you know, feed a
program or programs that they have for riders.
Now, it's not just the main seats that are, you know, on the
table. And, and I would agree with
that, but if you think about their feeder program, their
feeder program again it's small displacement bikes that they

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typically sell RC390's and so forth and so on, same as Moto 3
bikes. So I would say for their feeder
program and for all their series, they would make sense.
But in Moto 2 it makes no sense because you don't get to use
your own motor. And in Moto GP, the expense is
so high that unless they can getsomebody to come in and really
cover so much of this cause. And this is, again, this is

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happening at the time when Tech 3 just got sold to the gentleman
from Formula One, right? So he's going to come in with
big, big deep pockets, a lot of sponsorship money behind him.
So maybe he's him and his crew are the ones that kind of saved
the KTM program. OK.
Well, like a lot of questions asked, but not a lot of answers

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yet. We've got to have to wait and
see. Well, let's see, Reese, you got
any questions, TJ? And then we can kind of roll
into the rumor mill because, youknow, he doesn't have to stay
with KTM, right? I'm pretty sure there's a closet
in there somewhere for him to get out, to get out if they
screw up. And right.
Yeah, I don't really have anything on that one.

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I mean, he's he's answered it all.
He answered that all for quick. Yeah.
So. You sign as a writer, there's
always out clause both for the manufacturer and for the rider.
So if at any point there's a, let's say there's some clauses
in Acosta's contract where KTM can't meet certain thresholds,

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he can get out of the contract and he can't be penalized.
I mean, unless he has a completeidiot for a manager, which at
that level there's not that manyidiots that are managers.
Most of the people know what they're doing, they'll have an
out clause. So unless he can clearly show
that KTM is not meeting the requirements of the contract,
he'll be stuck in that contract.But if he can prove that they're

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not meeting certain thresholds, he could possibly get out of
that contract. And either way, like next year
is kind of his last year with them and he's going to be
looking for your ride and it's going to be another factory.
And, and you know, it's, it's, you know, it's not just the
riders, it's not just the new owner of Tech 3.
What about Red Bull? Red Red Bull is like Monster,

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which is like a lot of companies.
I don't know, they, they just print money in the backroom
because they sell a product for $3 that cost them $0.18 to make.
So that's it. Their profit, their profited,
their profited cost margin is through the roof.
That's why they advertise and they're in everything because
they are a promotional company that sells a drink that makes

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them a ton of money. They did get a little bit lucky
buying that Formula One team, too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the price they got it at?
But I don't think that they'll buy outright, buy a team because
they still need to rely on a manufacturer to develop, to
deliver bikes. You know, when they buy a
Formula One team, they can go toFerrari or they can go to
McLaren or these companies and they can get the products they

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need and then they can build a team around these products.
But in Moto GP, you're kind of stuck to the four or five
manufacturers that are in GP. Right.
Well, you know Honda might be looking for a new big sponsor
besides Castro. Oil well, Honda's got a Repsol
coming back next year. OK, breaking news.
Breaking news. I.

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Got AI got a question about the the KTM aspect.
So like you mentioned, like theyprobably will just
hypothetically withdraw from Moto GP or at least take away 2
bikes. So I know when Suzuki left, like
they, they told Dorner that theylike we'll withdraw and we'll
pay the penalty and fine whatever.

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Like like is that going to be the case or it's like they like,
do they sign a contract like that, that I do not know from
how like these mobile GP manufacturers.
So you you only pay a fine if you can't find another company
to take your spots because they don't want 2 empty spots in the
grid. So in Suzuki's case, they were

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going to have to pay a pretty big fine until they found
somebody willing to buy their spots.
And then they, you know, the thepenalty went down significantly
from what they would have gottenif they couldn't find somebody
to absorb those two spots. And it's very easy to get 2
spots sold in Moto GP because everybody that has some money
does want to build a team. The biggest problem is finding a

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manufacturer that's willing to make you bikes, make you good
bikes too. Not make you some some third
tier shitty version of their best bike, but make you like a
competent or sell you last year's bikes, sell you the
technology, help you get up and running, things like that.
It's not an easy endeavor to go from one manufacturer to another

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unless that manufacturer you're going to already has a
structure. So if KTM leaves, those two
spots would have to go to one ofthe manufacturers that are there
now. And I don't think Yamaha wants
to add more bikes. Honda, I don't know if they want
to add more bikes. They should.
They should. No, absolutely they should.

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Although I think the one manufacturer that would benefit
from adding more bikes would be brilliant.
If it really went from 4 bikes to six bikes, I think that would
now put them on par one with Ducati because now they also
have 6 bikes going against six bikes.
Between those two companies theytake up almost 50% of the grid,

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40 something percent of the grid.
It will be all Italian and both of those bikes right now are the
two top bikes. So you're going to get a lot of
more interesting racing until the KTMS and the Hondas and
Yamahas in the world catch up. And and so the rumor is that,
you know, Rossi, may, you know, leave Ducati and jump to

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Aprilia. That is one of the rumors.
I mean 2020. Yeah, is a a, a do you really
buy that you think? I mean, obviously money talks,
right. So when it comes down to it, but
you know, is it is it such a bigdeal if well, it he he VR46 is
getting a 26 bike. 1. Yeah, and so they both won and

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Grassini's getting one, right? So, so it's it's so there's no
reason to be disgruntled from Rossi's perspective, is there?
I'll let you guys answer this one.
I mean, I mean it. Yeah, Go ahead, T.
Oh, I know I'm being, I'm just speaking like who?

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Who? Like yeah, who's going to ride
that bike, you know, is it? I mean, he needs another.
He needs another ride. I feel like to represent him
like someone else younger to come up to.
Celestine Vietay or when these other young riders coming
through the the the the VR46 Academy.
I feel like Rossi gets what he wants anyway.

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I mean for him to get 2 new bikes that's like, I don't know.
That'll be unheard of. I think I.
Think Rossi wants his 2015 championship?
He don't get what he wants. So I mean, but you know, I mean,
I I think it's, I think it's good enough for him to just have
126 bike and 25. But you know, Rossi is always in

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the something. Right.
You know, Reese, you know, there's a lot of rumors in the
Motor America which we'll jump into.
So how much is this stuff is valid what we hear on on the on
the social media streets? You see, the mouth is shut.

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I mean something you can't believe, something you can't
believe. We'll say that, but sometimes
the riders will will just slip out and and say some stuff and
you'll be like shut up and just wait till it's on paper, you
know, But it's it's, it normallycomes from somewhere in that
rider. Got you got you normally no

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doubt. I think it'll be cool.
I mean, I mean, I think if Rossiwas to go with Aprilia, the bike
is doing fairly well. It's the it's the closest bike
that can fight Ducati. It's an Italian brand.
I, I don't know if Aprilia has enough money where Ducati has
that money to develop a little bit faster, a little bit quicker
and, and stuff like that, where Aprilia is still a niche brand

(28:08):
and, and you know, who knows what 27 looks like, right?
So because if they get, if they whoever comes out the gate on
the wrong foot, you, you alreadyknow it's going to take them
maybe a few seasons to catch up.I mean, do you have the money
like Lambeau has? Well, one of the things that
you're missing about the Ducati conversation is, you know, how

(28:30):
how keen and how happy is Rossi knowing that Marquez is winning
on a Ducati? How keen and how happier is he
that the two Spaniards, that Grassini are doing better than
his two Italians on Ducati's? And there's only one Italian
left on the factory team, which is Pekko, and he might not be
there going into 27. So this is another aspect that

(28:52):
you're not kind of thinking about is, you know, you're
talking about now not just Rossi, but Italians versus the
Spaniards, both on Italian bikesand one Italian feeling like the
Spaniards are getting better shit than he's getting.
And you know, it's, it's petty like that, man.
And. We don't know what Pekka is

(29:13):
going back and telling Rossi. We don't know what Pekka is
telling Rossi neither. That's one of your vRS 46 boys.
Yeah. Listen, it's, it's it's like
that scene in Snatch. You know, Boris, you're my
brother. What do you want me to come
shoot them for you? Some things they have to do on
their own. You're you're absolutely right.
And it must be tough for Rossi. And I, and I suspect, I mean,
Rossi does a better job at it than Jordan because as we know,

(29:34):
Jordan can't coach because he he'll just lace up and go out
there. So, you know, and I think, you
know, for Rossi, he must, you know, that there's a side room
that wants to say, hey, it can'tbe done.
It can't be done. You guys are not getting there.
So I guess that has to be difficult for him.
But I still Aprilia makes the most sense if if Ducati can't,

(29:55):
can't, it seems to be meddling with the with the, you know, the
Italian nationality. Unless unless Yamaha pulls
something amazing out of their ass in 2026.
Aprilia would make the most sense going into 27.
Because Yamaha would make the most sense for Rossi only
because of his history with the brand.

(30:17):
And it kind of. But he's still an ambassador,
too. Yeah, so it'd be kind of like a
a come a homecoming to have VR46back on Yamaha.
It'll be a win for Yamaha. And for Rossi, if he went back
and used Yamaha bikes with his team, that would be a.
Lower case W though. Yeah, dude, But if as a
marketing person, I'd be in the back just creaming the entire

(30:39):
wall, if I could get my ambassador pain in the wall,
man, because I got Rossi. You're absolutely right.
They they would sell a lot of bikes.
I mean, you know, no, no doubt that, you know, no one is
selling more bikes than Rossi atthe moment.

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I think, Mark, they kind of usedMarquez to get there.
But we shall see. Let's anything else about Moto
GP before we move over to the side of the the country at the
side of the world. That's good, that's good.
That's good for. Them all right, let's let's
let's talk about it so. They got enough money.
Yeah, yeah, too much free, free publicity.

(31:21):
Exactly, exactly. You have to stop putting them on
notice. So let's talk more to America.
Some seats moving around what I know about and hopefully we'll
see what we can get out of Reeseand and Lewis on who's who's
coming. But looks like Cam Beaubier's on
the red bike for next season. New testing.

(31:41):
Well, new testing. Testing has to be done.
But it's a new platform. So, you know, we'll start with
Reese on this one. You know, last year you guys
kind of had a idea who your challenger was going to be
coming into 2025. Do you guys look at any of that
stuff? Is it like, you know, you know,
you hear football players and and basketball players got

(32:03):
certain dates on the calendar circled and stuff because
they're going to see certain people.
Is it, is it certain brands, you, you, you start to, you
know, put stickers on their car because you don't like them
anymore for next year? I mean, not like that, but I
mean, you always got to know whothe challenger that's going to
come into play. I mean, from what I hear, I

(32:24):
think there's like 4 Ducati that's going to be on a grid
down this year. So that's that's something big.
I mean, you got Cam, you know he's always going to be a
contender, especially if he wraps his head around that bike.
So that's always going to be a contender there.
You also have Matthew coming in,you know, to the Super bike.

(32:45):
You know he's going to be a contender.
I mean you got PJ, you know, youhave Bobby still out there and
Bobby's coming strong and you know, so I I think it's going to
be a good year. I mean, we know who's coming so
far. You still got the BMWs with Sean

(33:06):
Dillon Kelly. So I mean it's going to be a
good year. I think this I would say this
year the Super bike, this is going to be the year the Super
bikes versus like the smaller ones.
Right. And you know, how much does you
know, these riders moving aroundon different bikes make a
difference? I mean, you know, Cam won last

(33:26):
year on the BMW. He I don't want to say it's the
same situation anyway. I guess it was the same
situation as, oh, hey, Martine, you went on one bike, but you
got to put that number plate on a different manufacturer all
together. You know, there's still a
learning curve. So how much how much do do you
guys pay attention to that part of it?
Like, OK, they're on a differentbike.
So you know, they got to play catch up where Bobby's been on

(33:47):
the same bike now for a little bit as far as being on a Yamaha
obviously is just one year on the factory.
I mean, we, we pay attention to a little bit, but we're trying
to pay attention to our own thing, you know, and get, get
ourselves situated. I mean, that's where it's at.
And you know me personally coming from, you know, the
athletic background and the, thecompetition that I am, like I'm

(34:08):
very competitive. I've always said, you know, that
me, my beliefs is that Bobby's going to be the most dangerous
one out there on the track. He's going to be the most
dangerous 1. He was there to taste almost the
champagne but didn't taste it. And he's going to be the most
hungriest 1. You know, Cam's still going to
be hungry. He's on a new bike to prove
himself. You got the new guys that want

(34:31):
to prove themselves, but still got that, as you want to call
it, the learning curve. But you know, Bobby's on a bike
that he knows. He's been on the bike.
He knows what you know, the pressure's not on him.
And if you read the the article that he did put out, he did say
there was some pressure on him. But, you know, I think that's
kind of kick the, you know, kick.
He's coming back for a little bit of a little bit of glory,

(34:53):
but. No, we needed to at least step
our game up to to be ready and to to take the win.
OK, listen, I'm looking forward to it.
TJ, man, your, your, your guy there at the moment doesn't have
a ride. You know how you feeling about

(35:17):
that. And you know, what are your
thoughts on what the grid is going to look like next year?
Because you know it, it looked like it was last year.
Last year it was stacked, but this year is even is even going
to be more stacked because you know, you do have, I would say,
you know, 9 to 10 riders. The Reese can correct me if I'm
wrong, that could fight for it or even Lewis that could fight

(35:39):
for a championship next year. So is it odd that Herron doesn't
have a ride for next year and you know, this guy was fighting
for the championship? I mean, is it like Olivier's
kind of situation? What are your thoughts man?
Yeah, You know, it's kind of funny that getting into
motorcycles, a guy that I liked and sounds like the most hated

(36:01):
out there, It's kind of, it's kind of strange not seeing him
have a ride yet. I'm sure it's like a
interference to his, you know, trying to get ready for the next
season if he can get that ride going.
But yeah, it's a little strange.I feel like he kind of went
through this the year before such when he had to get all

(36:23):
these sponsors and stuff like that.
But yeah, it's a little strange and just sitting back and and
and patiently waiting just to see some some news or some
rumors. But I feel like it will all work
out in the end. But we'll see.
I mean, it'll be kind of interesting to, you know, not
have been series after, you know, how competitive he is.

(36:45):
But I know the insiders is like,you know, burning bridges
different places, just like someMoto GP riders is you might just
push your way out. So we'll see.
It's kind of interesting. No, man, listen, the, the, the
motorcycle politics is, is for real.
You know, I, I, I think it's OK to, I'm not even going to say

(37:08):
it, but but. You might go ahead and say it.
You might just say it. You, you can get away with
kissing someone's woman, but youcan't be messing with the the
bike or, or messing with the ride at all.
People remember that. And and you know, it's like if
you, if you screw one team over,it seems like the the whole
paddock is, is against you. You know, as we look at some of

(37:30):
these Moto GP riders like that can get rides or Moto 2 riders
that can get rides in Moto GP for for politics.
Louis, what are your thoughts? Man on well, Oh, TJ, you didn't
answer. What do you how do you think you
know the the season's going to look next year with with these
guys coming in and coming back up?
Yeah, just how I reset. I think, you know, Bobby Foley's

(37:55):
just couldn't be in the front runner.
He's just going to. I feel like he has something to
prove. And I mean, it was just right
there. It was, you know, the the
championship is right there. So he he has something to prove.
I feel like he's going to be a front runner and you know, it's
going to be interesting seeing Bobier or Ducati.

(38:16):
I feel like you'll adapt very fast.
I mean, you know, just seeing what he did on the BMW.
So it's going to be an interesting season.
I'm looking forward to it. It's a couple of riders on
different seats, so you know, but I think Bobby Fong is going
to be looking forward to watching.

(38:36):
Thank you. Hopefully you can finally take
it home this year. No doubt Bobby Fong is Kobe
Bryant in a 2008 season. You know, SO 2000.
He had the fro, he had the fro. So you know, say you know 2009,
you know, it might it was was Kobe J after losing to the

(38:57):
Celtics in O 8. So next year might be his for
sure. What are your thoughts, Lewis?
I know you have a lot to say based on what I said, but what
what what rumors can you say or or say they're not rumors?
And also, what are your thoughtsfor next year?
Can't say anything, man. I can say that for Super Bike,

(39:21):
it's going to be an interesting year because like Reese said,
there's a lot of talent in SuperBike and there's a lot of talent
on good bikes. I think if you go through the
paddock and you ask anybody, anybody, anybody in the paddock
who's the odds on favorite everysingle year, it's always going
to be Cambo BA. He's always going to be at the
top of the pile. He, no matter what he's riding,

(39:43):
whether it's BMW or Suzuki, a Yamaha, Ducati, he's always
going to be that guy that everybody looks at as like the
benchmark for the best racer outthere.
But then after him, I mean you've got a lot of guys that
are hungry. You know, Bobby's obviously
hungry. He learned a lot from last
season. He showed that he has the pace

(40:05):
to race at almost every circle, can be competitive.
Whoever his team mates going to be is at least going to be on a
competent bike. And if he's a halfway decent
rider, he'll be in the top 10. After that, you know, you got
Scholz and this is a guy that was already has already been on
a Yamaha 1 and he's going back to a Yamaha 1 after his exile to

(40:28):
Super Sport. And so he's going to come back
with a giant chip on his shoulder and something to prove.
And if everybody knows anything about him, the dude race is
super hard. Some people would say it's on a
borderline of dirty, but is there really anything dirty
about, you know, taking a spot from somebody?
Right. If if you could fit a credit
card, you could fit a bike. Yeah, I, I, I need a court

(40:53):
typist to read back the transcript.
I mean, you, you throw dirt smooth, Lewis.
It's real big. Slide it.
Sprinkle right in there, but youknow.
Like cinnamon? Just a little bit, not too much.
You can make butt on a bread taste real good with a little

(41:15):
bit of cinnamon. And then you got the Honda guys,
you know, Honda's going to have a full super bike team.
You got the Orange Cat guys are going to have a full super bike
team. You know, the BMW factory team.
I mean, there's a lot of really,really good stuff.
I mean, I hate to see stock 1000going away, but at the same
time, I kind of like to see stock 1000 going away because it

(41:37):
felt like a poor man super bike.And the Super bike grid, you
know, on some races was looking really anemic this past year.
So let's combine these. Let's figure out a way to give
the stock 1000 bikes a little bit of concessions to make them
a little more competitive against the Super bikes, but
keep the cost down for them. And and let's see what the show

(41:58):
looks like. This.
Yeah, my biggest thing is I don't want to see the same three
dudes every single weekend racing for the top three spots.
Right. Come on, man, that's fun.
Sean Dillon Kelly, though, I gotto say he's probably the next
closest guy to Bobby, wouldn't you think?
Is coming back from Moto GP paddock in Moto 2.

(42:18):
He's not necessarily had the best luck coming back in the in
the in the Moto America. You know he got he has to be
brewing too, right? No, I think I think he's one of
those top talents that we have in Moto America this year.
Unfortunately, you know, this past year he was on Suzuki and
you know, we just know that Suzuki is just not as

(42:40):
competitive as we would like it to be as Suzuki fans.
Me rest. I don't know who else is a
Suzuki fan here. I think it's just me and the DJ,
that's it. 50. Percent.
Hey, 50% of the viewing audiencewants Suzuki to do better,
that's the thing. I'm a fan of Suzuki as well.

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I've always wanted one. I just haven't had the luck to
be able to get the title in my hand.
Something always go awry. But.
He just wanted to be part of theSquid Game.
That's, you know, the Squid rider, you know.
They're good for beginners, that's all.
They're great. The SV650 is the best clapped
out piece of shit you can put onthe track.

(43:22):
Sure is. But you know, if you kind of get
their stuff together, I mean, we've got Ducati that's
competitive. We've got Yamaha that's
competitive. We've got BMW out there that's
competitive. You know, we can get Honda looks
like it's going to be more competitive this year.
I mean, we've got a great mix ofmanufacturers.
Suzuki needs to, you know, make that next step that hopefully

(43:44):
they make in the next 18 months.But as far as riders, all the
riders and all the teams are strong.
And Cameron Beauvier and then right behind him would be like
on par would be Bobby, Sean Dillon and Matthew.
And then below that would be your PJS and I don't know who

(44:09):
else is down there, Gilliam onlybecause like the Honda might not
be that great, your JD's and andthen from there kind of trickles
and trickles down, but the top, top guy is Cambogbier and then
after that is going to be your Bobby, your Sean and your
Schultz. You gonna say heroin?
I mean, I know you got a ride, man.

(44:32):
He's going to be the top ride. You're watching from the stands.
You don't have a ride. I, I had this conversation with
somebody a few weeks ago becausethey were talking about how
riders are changing. A lot of riders are changing
from gear this year. A lot of guys from Revit are
going here. A lot of guys from iPod start
going there. A lot of guys from Dines are
going there. And I explained to him, I said,

(44:54):
look, sometimes you don't have an option but to change because
the team you're going to tells you you have to wear this
product. And as much as you might like
the product you're in, I've watched a lot of races.
I've never seen somebody run across the straight away and
finishing first without a bike on good looking gear, but I've
seen a lot of guys on really good bikes wearing shitty gear

(45:16):
win races. So sometimes you got to take the
shitty gear and get the good bike to go win.
Hey listen I can quote snatch reference all all show.
Now do another one, man. The turtle and the and the dog.
The rabbit and the dog, you know, but before before we move

(45:37):
on to what most of us do, which is club race and and can prepare
for next season and our offseason as we try to get
ready. You know, we talked about Suzuki
just, you know, joking a little bit.
But like, how come Suzuki hasn'tfigured out that even if you
know, you, you heard Aries talk about, you know, squid riders

(45:58):
and stuff like that, people still buy Suzuki's.
Why wouldn't Suzuki invest in the culture a little bit?
Because I think if they did a lot more Suzuki's would would, I
mean more than what's on the streets already would be on the
street. What are your thoughts?
We'll start with TJ. Should Suzuki be doing more for
for the motorcycle culture wherewe see Yamaha, even Honda,

(46:20):
Ducati, even BMW doing these things?
I mean, yeah, I mean Suzuki slowly, slowly is doing little
things. I mean, a lot of people want to
change up the engine and stuff like that.
They're doing that for the new 2026.
I think they. Want to use the whole bike up
man? Yeah, I know, but I mean they're
one of the only ones that has the 607 fifty and 1000.

(46:44):
A lot of bikes can't, can't haveall three.
We in Suzuki got all, you know, those 3 CCS.
So I mean they come out with thenaked versions to kind of
compete where, you know, they got the GS G SX7 or six and then
the GS 10 yeah, the 7:50 and then the 1000 and then now they

(47:10):
have the GSS 8. So I mean, it's not what people
really want. I mean, it's just affordable and
it's, I think it's a great bike,very comfortable and easy to
learn on. I mean, like you said, a lot of
people want to get the, the higher brands, higher class like
Ducati, which, you know, requires a lot more attention.

(47:33):
But I feel like Suzuki definitely needs to step it up.
But I feel like they've been doing OK.
I just hate how like when, when the new year comes out, it's
kind of like the same look. I mean, as far as like the
engine, stuff like that. Like I'm talking like I'm
talking, I'm talking not just like the graphics, but like, you

(47:54):
know, just certain certain things like the dash.
Like, you know, like if you wantto give me the same graphics,
give me a little different setupon the dash or like different
mirrors or something. Doesn't have to be like a total
flip. Now we gonna give you all bold
new graphics and bold new paint job.
That's exactly we gonna give. You, what are your thoughts,

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Reese? Should they be doing more?
I mean on one hand, you know their old their 10 year old bike
still you know are close to someto to OK. 10 year old, I want to
say like 20 year old, like a 20 year old boy.
God damn is still running with a2025 newer version so I want

(48:37):
him. They're saying we still fast.
But where? Should they, should they be in
the culture a little bit more than they're doing?
Yeah, you still fast to go in the shop because it still breaks
down fast or fast to be stolen on the street.
That's OK, you can steal anotherone.
There's so many out there. Someone steal your Jackson.

(49:05):
Go steal another Jackson. He'll steal.
That's it. There's plenty of them out
there. There's plenty left.
But I mean, I think they got to do something.
I mean, a lot of guys don't evenknow.
It's like ever since like Cali in Suzuki, like split because
Cali was helping them out and sharing parts and doing certain
things way back when, but as soon as they, it seemed like

(49:29):
Zuki just lost their way. They just can't figure it out
and can't get back into anything.
They just disappeared off the face of the earth and it's kind
of just sad. But yeah, it's sad.
So let's look at the numbers, All right?
Suzuki has been able to increasetheir revenue year over year
since 2002. They're selling more bikes, but

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they're not selling the bikes that you and I see.
They're selling the bikes that are needed in the emerging
markets like Latin America and India.
So profitability wise, in 2024, they had a significant increase
in their overall net profitability because they're
selling so many bikes targeted to emerging markets like India,
Latin America, South America andeven Africa.

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Now we look at it and it's like,well, what about us?
What about us? We don't buy that many sport
bikes anyway. Come.
On we don't. If you look at the overall
amount, we don't bikes in the Usus is a big market in dollars
because we buy in high dollar items, but we don't buy in
volume. But you know, if if you look at

(50:39):
the Suzuki among younger people or all age people, everybody
talks about Suzuki. I mean, it is like, you know,
talk about temple and shoes, right?
Because it's a plague. Let's say.
It's really like that young person.
Let's say you're getting into motorcycling today and you go
into want ads or you go on Facebook Marketplace looking for

(51:02):
a used bike. You're going to scroll through
1500 Suzuki's within like 20 miles of you that are all for
sale. So This is why it's in the
culture, because there's so many.
By I mean, remember from 2000 to2010, Suzuki sold something like
27,000,000 motorcycles. Oh wow.

(51:26):
And, you know, this was their heyday of selling mainly in the
US. the US was selling, you know, tons of Suzukis.
And to this day, those bikes areout there.
They might be leaking oil all over the place, but they're
still out there. And people are still buying them
and trading them. And they're great bikes for,
again, a beginner rider, somebody new.
They're analog in a digital age.They stood.

(51:47):
They do need to catch up. And I think it's something that
every couple of years the rumor starts going around, Suzuki's
going to do something, Suzuki's going to do something.
But what they did is they kind of said, look, we're a smaller
manufacturer. We're not a Honda.
We don't have the outlets to make cars.
You know, you don't see Suzuki cars being sold in the US
anymore because they just, they're not that big a company.

(52:10):
Samurai. Samurai baby, that was the 90s.
Go to the Samurai. You know he probably still has
one in his garage. I do, I seen one recently and
I'm like, I don't even know how that that's like the GSXR of
Jeeps. It just won't be you like it.

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As a company, they've done the right thing.
As a company, when did their emerging markets?
At some point they have to look back at at least the US.
European market is difficult to to penetrate for any brand
because of the emission standards and all the
regulations and everything else.But the US is definitely a place
where they can see a lot of success if they brought the

(53:06):
right products to the market. If they came up with a brand new
updated GSXR 750, I don't think the 600 is even worth making
anymore. Like get rid of it because the
7:50 is a 600 with a different boring stroke.
So don't make 2 bikes, make one bike.
Make that bike really confident.Give it the updated electronics
that everybody expects from a sport bike.

(53:28):
And then do the same exact thingto the GSXR 1000.
Just adding in bold new graphics.
After 17 years, it's starting toget a little longer.
The tooth Man. Come on man.
The only upside? No, I can't.
I can't say this they. Changed the stock exhaust pipe
though it's not that big anymore.
Yeah but who keeps the stock exhaust anyway?

(53:50):
Only plus side is I can I can sell my 2017 and still make as
much money as when I bought it in 2017.
That's right. The exhaust goes from a long
dingling to a short one. But I can't say this.
We do as an American, we do selland the numbers were shown that

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we do sell the most one thousands out of any market.
Yep, we're we do we? Can't ride for shit.
We got no carpet. We love horsepower.
Yeah, the ER CS it all day everyday.

(54:30):
So we can't say that we go ahead.
Yep. No, you're good.
OK that now yeah, we do love thehorsepower bike.
So I, I was talking to one of the guys I met at the, at the
write up yesterday and meet up yesterday and he was telling me
about some young kid who bought A at 6:36.

(54:51):
And he was telling the kid like,you know, chill out, you know,
just take it easy, slow. The kids like, no, I want to go
fast and blah, blah, blah. And he's like, the the next day,
the kid sends him a photo of hisbike and he, he, you know, he
crashed the bike it, it within the next, within 24 hours, you
know, that kind of thing. So there are young people who
definitely want to go fast and, and don't have and think they

(55:13):
have the skill set, but don't have the skill set to, to
manage, you know, a middle weight bike, much less 1000 CC
bike. So you know I mean.
The thing it was two things Was that on the recall?
Was that on the recall that he crashed?
Did he crashed at the recall test out there?
Oh. No, no, no, no not 'cause the

(55:34):
recall. Because Cali Cali's got a well.
Cali does have a big recall on the air. 636 don't do not ride.
Got you, huh? Yeah, they.
Just got a mother. 1 They got a second recall.
Yeah, it's a do not ride on there.
Yeah, it's a do not ride. Wow.
I had one guy blow a rod right through his motor.

(55:55):
Yeah, there's a second one. Yeah.
Two recalls on ZX6. Right now.
I, I the first, the first one was on all of them, right?
All of them. *** *** 25 models. I thought, yeah.
Yeah, that's not, that's not, that's not good for Kawasaki to
I mean, I, I probably, well, Aprilia had that a few years ago

(56:17):
with the RS660 and stuff like that with their engines and they
replaced a lot of engines. So I, I mean, I don't know if,
you know, Aprilia may have a little bit more money than than
Kawi to maybe go through and anddeal with all that.
But they survived. The RS660 survived.
It's not that it's they have less sales so they only got to
fix like 8 bikes. I know the guys that are

(56:40):
previous, I can buzz their balls.
That's that's that's what's up. So let's talk about offseason
shenanigans, things that we liketo do in the offseason.
Reese doesn't have an offseason.But if you are a Trump rider,
Reese, you know, club rider, eraser, you know, what would you
be doing right now for your offseason prep for next season?

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I know it's not going to be buying a Suzuki.
No, because it might blow up, leak oil, But probably I was
trying to train and trying to just get my body right, get in
shape, do a lot of track day riding, try to hit the South and
where it's warm and then go ride.
You know, that's probably about it at the Jennings.

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At least it's warm day. So really no, no time off you
just you just gone, gone, gone to the track because.
Like, why take time off? If I want to win, I want to.
I want to be better than the next guy.
That's it. I want to be better than him
while while I'm sleeping. Somebody's out there practicing

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all. Right, All right, what are your
thoughts, TJ on what Reese is saying?
We're going to put Reese on the spot a little bit.
And Lewis, because I mean, you know, you got to you got to
service suspension. I mean, you know, you, you could
probably do it already. So you know, you can you can
probably get your bike prepped in a weekend.
There are a lot of people waiting to get their bike in and
to see somebody. What are your thoughts, TJ on on

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offseason prepping? What are you doing to get ready
for next season? You coming down this way to go
to Jennings? You know, I'm thinking about it,
I'm thinking about it. I like, you know, warm places,
but I like I like where Reese's head is that you know, but we
got different jobs and he does that for, you know, like, you

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know, gets real contingency and all that good stuff.
So like he can, you know, reallyfocus, but no, that mentalities
you want to if you do something you love, you definitely got to
go hard and you can't just do itwhen when the action is you got
to put the work in an offseason.So this is the perfect time to
get everything together for me starting in 2020.

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Now. I know like you got to start now
because time passes so fast and and once it's really time to get
the bike going, like you'll be scrambling around.
So it's good to get everything in order that you typically use
and all the parts that you need,you need to get ordered them
now. Get the oil changes and all the

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flush is done now. So when it when you can after
the new year, just get ready to get smooth sand, but definitely
getting in shape and all that good stuff, so.
Right, if you see like Reese doesn't have to go get snow
removal jobs like us TJ to be able to pay off this previous
season. We just completed he.

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He just, he's high in that situation.
Yeah, I wish. Six weeks and then I can get
tires. Exactly.
I got to work. I still got to work.
I got to pay off bills. I got it.
A wife at home that eats up every bill I can do.
I'm like, Jesus Christ, I got that funding.

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I still got to take care of man.That's a capital of W right
there. Exactly.
What are your thoughts, Louis, on prepping in the offseason and
and you know, are you somewhere in the middle for advice?
Because I, I know you got your Suzuki and you're just looking
to sell it. And I don't think you're coming

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to the track, although you did say you're going to bring the R6
down to Homestead in in. January No, I'm not selling the
Suzuki ever. Man, that that thing is, I'm
going to get a double wide casket and make sure they bury
you with me. Well, the first thing you got to
do. It don't work now as it is.
You got to go out there, you gotto find a 0 interest credit card
for 18 months so you can take all the credit card bills that

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you accrued during the racing season and move them over to a
zero interest long term so you can pay it off and not paying
interest over the 18 months. Clear up your first credit card
because now you're going to fillthat credit card with all the
stuff for this coming season andthen you accrue yourself into
debt for life as a motor. That's the first thing you got

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to do is get your finances rightso you can fuck them up because
that's what we're doing. That's what this is all about.
How deep in debt can I get in this sport?
Then after that you got to look at your bike, and you got to
think about everything on your bike that can go wrong and kill
you. And don't be cheap when you're
fixing it. Don't buy shit off TMU.

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Don't buy things on Amazon just because they look cheap, because
cheap now means expensive later.Check your chain.
One thing that nobody does whichblows my mind is change your
brake fluid out. Brake fluid absorbs moisture.
The more moisture it absorbs theless it works and over time you
get a lot of brake fade and a lot of brake issues.

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You should really be changing your brake fluid out like twice
a year. I mean most racers will change
the brake fluid out almost everysingle event because you don't
want it to absorb moisture and cause brake fade or or or lever
lever feel. So change your brake fluid out
if you can. Most people don't know it just

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shocks have oil in them just like all oil that shit goes bad.
Like there's dudes right now right now on a 2002 GSXR 1000
stuff the same oil from 2002 in that front end and don't
understand why that thing is a Pogo stick in the front.
Get your fork taken. From experience y'all.

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No, I'm speaking from. I change this stuff.
I don't wait until my fork oil. With like.
Mozzola inconsistency as Crisco.Like I change it when I need to
change it with the right weight and make sure it's done
correctly and put it back together.
So take your forks out, take it to a good shop that can change
the oil for you. You don't have to take the whole
bike. If you got the ability, do it

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yourself. Take the rear shock out, have
the oil, change the rear shock. Some of the shocks have oil and
they have gas cartridges. Get those serviced.
These are little things that nobody ever does.
And I'm telling you, it will change the ride of your bike.
It'll make it feel better. Check your sprockets.
If you don't see pointy teeth, change your sprocket.

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It's round. That's not a good thing.
And when you change your sprocket, change a chain, get a
good quality chain, get something with like an X ring, a
seal so you don't have to spray it as much or you don't have to
maintain it as much. All these little things.
Check the bearings. If you got the ability to take
off the front of your bike, grease your, your, your head to

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bearings, check the bearings on your wheels like this.
I got a list of when I used to do this as a regular thing of
all the things that I would go through and I would keep a
schedule and I make sure that I stay on the schedule because the
last thing you want to do is go into turn 1:00, grab the front
brake, your shitty ass fork or compresses completely.

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Your brakes fade like crap because you don't have good
brake oil and then you're going into turn one in 180 miles an
hour thinking about, man, if I just spent $30 on oil I wouldn't
be about to hit this God damn air fence.
I got to say, Lewis, man, it is pretty in depth.
But first, I'm not going to haveno half the things that you just

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said. Let's go back to brakes.
Brakes. The liquid in your brake.
If you look at that clear plastic and it's black, that
shit is. Wrong, Yeah.
Right to It doesn't come in black.
That's oil. You will not be teaching first

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rider classes, everybody. Be like, Nah, Nah, this is too
difficult for me. I quit.
I have to go back. Listen, when he taught, he tried
to teach Nesbo and we was all inthere.
Everybody was looking at him with the kind of the crooked
eye, like what the fuck are you talking about?
Hit the brake while I'm turning.I got a trail brake.

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What's trail brake? Visual things.
Look at the little plastic container on your handlebar
that's connected to your brake. If it's black, take that to a
shop and get that shit changed. No, I listen, I, I agree with
you on everything you just said and you guys just said, I think,

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you know, the biggest thing for new riders is education because
you don't like, there's so much that you don't know that you
should be doing. You don't know that you should
be changing oils and anything much like, you know, the oil in
the engine, which should be obvious, but some people don't
even don't even do that. I mean, so it is really, you
know, again, the credit card parts and stuff like that.

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Yet definitely racing is expensive.
So whatever you got to do to getget prepared financially for the
next season is important. But you know, education is the
biggest thing If you're, you know, if, if you're like, I
mean, I, I can wrench and I do wrench, but you know, I don't
know what I'm doing and I hate to.
Can I do something and Jack it up?

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I tell people don't be. Don't be scared of working on
your bike within your comfort zone.
If there's something you're not comfortable working on, don't
work on it. Because again, a motorcycle, you
only got 2 wheels, you got limited amount of parts that
keep you up and keep you safe. If you don't feel comfortable
doing something, don't do it. Take to a shot, pay the money to

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get it done right. If you're someone that's even
slightly mechanically inclined and you feel comfortable in
trying something, try it. And the best case scenario is
you got a great resource that wedidn't have back then.
Back then, it was all bro science.
Nah, man. This is how you do it.
And then you do it that way you find out that's not the way
you're supposed to do it. Everybody was doing it wrong.

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But now we've got YouTube, you can go on YouTube and they would
teach you how to do almost everysingle thing.
If you go in there and hey, how do I bleed the front brake
master on my bike? Somebody will have a really
detailed YouTube and a high quality, well made produced
YouTube video on how to change the the brake fluid on your
master cylinder, how to bleed it, how to make sure that you

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don't spill any of that brake fluid on your precious paint
because brake fluid is like acidthat will.
Eat right through that shit. So you know how to do these
things, how to change your frontwheel.
Don't start with your back wheelbecause there's a lot of moving
parts back there. Start with your front wheel, get
comfortable, take your front wheel off and understand how the

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bearings and the spacers work and things like that and they'll
have one for your specific bike.I got a 1991 CBR 600F3 front
wheel change. YouTube 18 videos will show up.
Yeah, you know, you mentioned spaces and bearings.
I've ridden on a track with no spaces in my KTM because I

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didn't know it was missing. And you know, I'm like.
That must have. That must have made a real
interesting sound. You hit the brake and you'll see
your front wheel move from left to right.
I'm like that doesn't look normal.
I'll be honest with you, I was in the pit at Daytona during the

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Daytona, I think it was two years ago and they had the wheel
set up on a wheel tree and they had the spacers already on the
wheel on the wheel tree. They grabbed the wheel off, they
put it on this rider's bike and they were like oh that was a
super fast and they turned back at the wheel tree and there's a
spacer on the wheel tree and this dude went and did 3 laps

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with no spacer. When he came in, that wheel was
fucked up and it actually cost him the race because he had to
pit a second time that wasn't scheduled just to put a spacer
in. In the meantime, they had to
change the tire from the tire they took off to a new tire, put

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it on a tire warmer, and you only had three laps to do this.
So when he got back out there and his new tire was barely even
warm because he didn't have timeto heat up and it's caused to do
the race so. Yeah, you got to keep your eye
on everything. I think like I said, education
is the best part of it all because you have to know the

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language, you have to know what you need to service, you have to
know when you need to service. You know, we've always mentioned
like, you know, reading the realrule books of different race
clubs and stuff like that. So you know, you know what, what
races you can get your bike in. You know what, what are the
rules as far as specs? You know what can you put on a
bike? Because some places you can't
change your master cylinder. That's some bullshit ass.

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That's because they don't want Suzuki's racing there.
And I mean, I could back up Lewis and what he said on one
thing when he was saying by changing that chain, you know,
sometimes you don't even have tochange it.
Clean it. A clean chain will save you some
money, but it'll actually keep your rings moist.

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And then when they actually go to clean your damn chain, don't
just clean the chain by yourself.
Clean your front sprocket the hell out.
Like you get so much gunk and crap up in there and it will
actually affect your performance.
Clean it out. Just take some brake cleaner and
spray it and just cleaning the hell out.

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Let's brake cleaner, man. Come on.
What are you? What's that?
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that.We're that we're a rule where
you can't change the front master cylinder because anybody
who's ever owned a Suzuki knows that the Nissan master cylinder
that come with Suzuki's ain't worth the metal that they
printed on. Well, that's what Suzuki is.
You know Suzuki's not worth the metal was printed.

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On yeah, but everybody else using Nissan master cylinders,
nobody else has the recalls and problems that Suzuki has.
Like Suzuki went to Nissan and was like, yo, give us you what's
your cheapest master cylinder? What's 4 levels below that one?
That's the one we want. Bet that saves US $0.18.
That's the one we want man, because we selling, we selling a

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million of these. So 18 cents adds up when it's a
million. Red Bull.
Oh my. God.
OK, so we, we got, we got education, we got working out,
we got servicing bikes, we got getting the finances in order,

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you know trailer prep, right? If you how you going to get your
bike to and from, you know, the racetrack, If you were in
Europe, you can just ride your bike and go do your track there
and ride back. I don't know where you put your
seat. I don't know where you put your
water, your food and all this other stuff that you need at the
racetrack. But I guess it rains all the
time over in England, so you just got to hold your head up.

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You know what I give? I give so many props to guys
that ride to the track and then go on the track with the bike
they just rode to because that'sa level of confidence that I
don't have. What happens when I Chuck my
shit in turn 5? Do I call Uber XL and be like yo

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just make sure you got a lot? Of energy too.
You know you can give the guy your home address on the crash
truck when they say why should you drop it off?

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Just leave it in that corner. Just say that stolen.
I don't know what happened to mybike.
Forget about. It, you know, it's it's.
I'm done. Yeah, I think if you're close to
the track, I think it's practical.
But again, you're absolutely right.
If you Chuck it down the road orI mean, granted, if you get
anything happened to the track, I mean you, you know, you stop

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to get back from the track. So there's there's, I mean,
regardless of transport, whetherit's a car or a bike, but yeah,
how comfortable can that be? I mean, you're, you're going on
with street tires, St. Leathers.
I mean, you know, you might be able to get away bring the
backpack of of stuff. Yeah, I mean that's that's a guy
in like the beginner group or something like that.

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It's not somebody that is going to have like a more serious
track day or is really going to try to push their skill level
and try to learn something unique.
It's somebody that just wants togo out and ride, not worry about
cars, not worry about traffic lights.
Right, do do do half a sessions,3 laps per session kind of
thing. Yeah, you know to.

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That guy gets T boned in the back and then ass pass.
Go to the go to the fuel pump atthe track and pay $10 a gallon
to to put because you don't evenhave a gas can.
Like how are you coming to the track?
Man, all right, so maybe not, maybe not riding your bike to

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the track for your first track day event, but how you know,
like you know, talk about some of the prep stuff that you guys
do, you know, you know, trailersand and whatnot.
What do we need when we go to the trap besides the bike, a
smile and some money. I mean I can I can start the
simple way so me you know I don't have a enclosed trailer.

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So when I first got into it I really needed to find a way
instead of just loading on the back of my pickup truck like how
the hell I get this bike to the track.
So end up investing in an open trailer 5 by 8 nice small one
put some pressurized wood on it all the bolts that did all that
stuff and two wheel trucks and eventually tried to change it to

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some pit bulls. But just throw them on there and
comfortably strap them down and that's pretty much how I can get
there. And it makes it so much easier
now that I don't even typically need any help where I can just
roll them up by myself and just strap it and go before the
pickup truck. You know you always got to ask

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that helping hand or try to think you can manage it.
Try to be boss and hope you don't drop your bike but.
You know how many times I almostdropped my my my race bikes
trying to load in the back of a pickup when I first started
pushing bikes around? Yeah, man, so that gets old
really quickly. I.
Just want to embarrass myself. I'm like you got to save this.

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You got to pick this bike up. I don't know how you going to
get it back up now, but you got to get it up.
And it don't even matter like you show up to the racetrack and
everyone got their RV's and campers and showing up all
different ways, but just got to get there, you know, So, you
know, I got the the open chair list still works.
You know when it rains, the vicemight get wet, but hey, still

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can get there and bring all yourtools where you can clean it up,
gas cans and all, you know whereyou can refuel all that good
stuff. So.
Right, Yeah, my my first track day, I didn't even bring tools.
It's just like, oh, I guess I need a toolbox.
They know my first track day didthat.
Yeah, based on on on you know, getting to the track and and

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prepping. I mean, you know, I I have a
similar story. I was I was using U-Haul first
to to trailer my my bike up after I realized I'm not going
to load in the back of a pickup anymore because it's not for me.
I mean my. My first track day, you know, I
didn't have all that. I loaded in the back of a pickup
truck and kind of just got there.
You know, I didn't know nothing about, you know, having tire

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warmers and generators and, you know, actual food.
I was the one that didn't have food.
I had to go leave out the track to go get food, then come back
and everything else. So, but you know, I mean,
there's, there's things that youneed, you need to, you know, you
want tunnel off here, you know. Yeah, we're we're we're we're

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we're losing you a little bit your.
Gas can I said at least have a rear stand, you know, a gas can,
a tent over your head and a chair to sit in because your ass
is going to be tired. You're going to be right at a
couple of laps. You know a lot of people don't
understand like it's it's tiringkeeping your eyes open and focus

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that long. You know, it's, it's, it's a
wear and tear, but you know, just your basic stuff, your
basic stuff will get you a long way more than what you need.
And bring some food and some water.
Yeah, I will say, yeah, I will say that's the biggest thing,
Yeah. In the bike, not knowing how
tired I was going to be. I didn't realize how tired I was

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a little going to be. You know, it's like, you know,
you're going, you're not in off at like 7:45.
You know, it's kind of, it's just like it really does take a
lot out of you, especially if you haven't been to a track and
know that you have to work out, not like you're training for a
marathon, but at least a half 1/2 marathon to get through a

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weekend and still walk upright when you're done.
What do you want to add to that?Louis getting to the track and
and being prepared and all that fun stuff.
Same thing again. I mean it's it's depends on the
person and where they're at in the track curve.
If they're just starting, look at a very simple solution.
The good thing is with most track organizations when you

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sign up for them, they usually have forums.
You can go on the forums, you can ask people there.
Sometimes you can even find somebody that's going there that
can bring the bike with you. You can go the simple route and
just rent a trailer from U-Haul if you have a way to tow it.
If you don't have a way to tow it, you can always rent a pickup
truck and get some ramps at at aHarbor Freight.

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It's not going to put you back alot of money.
Use that to get on and off. Like keep it simple, don't over
expend. Initially when I first started
going to the track, you know, everybody had open landscaping
trailers. If you showed up with an
enclosed trailer, like yo, you was a bowler, you got an
enclosed trailer. Everybody else's bike is wet and
full of shit that we caught along the way, but yours is dry.

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Like now you got people showing up in, you know, $500,000 mobile
homes that are pulling, you know, full mobile, you know, toy
haulers. It's like damn, you know, so
just, you know, stay in your budget.
Don't go too crazy initially, even with your gear.
You can go on a lot of these forums, you can buy a suit used

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for like 5-6 hundred bucks. Don't go buy a brand new top of
the line suit day one. Because again, you have to see
if this is something you're going to enjoy.
If it's something you're going to enjoy, then you have to
again, look at your own personalfinances, see what you can do,
see what you couldn't afford. Make sure that it's within your
budget because if you blow your budget too fast, then it's going

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to discourage you from being in the sport because you're going
to be like, oh, look how much money I spent.
Like it's got to be incremental.You can't just dump it all at
once. And then, you know, again, as
you grow within the track mindset and the track lifestyle,
then you'll see that you'll start to about, well, you know
what, I want to, I want a bettertrailer.
I'm going to get an enclosed trailer.

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Oh, well, now that I have an enclosed trailer, you know,
maybe I want a toy hauler because I want to bring my
family with me. I want a place to stay or maybe
I want this. And as you grow, then your needs
will change along the way. Like right now, you know, I'm
going to do a project where I just bought a trailer today.
It's a blank canvas. I haven't had my own trailer in
years, so I'm going to start from scratch again and kind of

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do everything that I know I kindof need.
So I'm going to have some outlets put in it.
I'm going to have a offshore connection, so if I go to a
track, I can plug into the circuit at the track and power
the outlets inside my trailer. Power a fan, power this, power
that. Coat the floor because most
trailers come with unfinished floors, so you have to coat them

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because you're a bike leak gas or you leak oil.
You can damage the floor and youdon't want to damage the floor.
So these are all things that I'mgoing to do because I've gone
through the process. I know what I need.
But again, as you grow in the sport, slowly, incrementally
grow what you want to do. And you'll see as you go to the
track, you'll see people with trailers and you'll peek inside

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their trailer and see their setup.
You'll see their Pitbull restraints.
And you were like, oh, what are those?
Oh, well, this is a way to hold your bike without blowing out
your force because you over torque the front end with
straps. And you'd be like, oh, that's
why my forks always leaking. Yeah, because that ratchet is
not to keep ratcheting it to hear that pop of your seals.
It's just to hold it in place. Yeah, you're absolutely right

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there. I mean, you know, stay in your
budget for sure and and build upas you get as you get into the
sports more. Before we get out of here, one
last thing I got to just a thoughts on.
You know, I went to a meet up like I mentioned yesterday and
we were, we were talking and allthe guys were talking.
I kind of always like fall back and just, you know, I'm not

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quick to run my mouth sort of thing.
And I heard one of the guys was talking about I don't go to
track days. There's just too much money.
You know, it's like $1000 to go.And, you know, it was one of
those things like, well, it can be $1000, but it could also be,
you know, $300 or $150.00. It all depends.

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So what are your thoughts when you hear people say, you know,
it's too expensive to go to track?
That's why I don't go. You have me.
It's true. That'll be, it is expensive, but
like, like Lewis said, you got to do the increments.
So you got to find your ways. Like, like this is the right
time right now. Black Friday, go put your money
down on some gloves, a suit where you can get it discounted

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and then a couple months from now buy something else.
But once you get out there and you have everything, that's when
it, I want to say it becomes cheap because then you, you
know, you can still mess up yourPike, but it becomes more
sustainable where you can just manage like, hey, I want to go
to a track there. I just paid just the track fees.

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I don't have to buy a whole suitand gloves and all that because
I already have it. But yeah, what I also want to
mention is you got to ask somebody who rides the track and
get some help to get there. I know when I first got to the
track, Rexy, you sold me your bike.
And at that point I didn't even have a truck.

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I had a car. So you was actually bringing my
bike up for the first few roundsuntil I found a way to, you
know, take it, take it off your hands, but just paying it for
it. And, you know, just there's
people, people are so friendly at the track.
I mean, somebody will help bringyou there, bring you back, you
know, just to get you into that experience and you don't have to

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throw all your money away just to get to the track.
So if I had to wait for it not to be expensively first a couple
of times. Right, right.
Theresa, anything you want to add to that about, you know,
when you hear the, the, you know, some people complain about
the, the, the cost and so they don't go.
I mean, I've heard people, you know, working in a dealership
for so many years before I've heard people complain about the

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cost, about getting to the track.
But a lot of times I've I've seen those guys as like, I'm,
I'm saying something to, you know, justify me not going where
some people are actually scared to go to the track.
And I'm like, there's nothing tobe scared about.
You actually can ride your bike to its full potential and

(01:24:25):
actually learn your bike to be abetter, TJ said.
There's better ways of getting to the track, not blowing all
your wine. I mean, there's all the, like
you said, the forums, there's people going that will help you
get there. You know, you don't have to blow
all your money that you can findtrack days that are actually not

(01:24:47):
that expensive to be able to getto the track and just go, you
know, and have some fun and actually learn the sport and
learn how to actually ride and not be a nut ball out here in
the street and make yourself a lot safer.
You know you'll be you'll be a surprise.
So yeah, you know, start off on a small bike.
You know you can one, one set ofties can last the whole weekend

(01:25:10):
on a KTM or a Ninja 400, right? Season at the whole weekend.
All right, you can actually. And then you can flip those.
You can flip the tires. You can always flip them.
You know, because if you're beginning to ride or you're not,
you're not going through ties like that.
No, but I think some people liketo buy tires and and they don't
really need to change them yet. Yeah.

(01:25:32):
You're not going to tires. You're not going to tires like
that. Man, I'm like, word.
How many races? Three.
He's like, yeah, yeah. Funny story, I used to always
ask racey. I'm like man, I just turn 6.
I keep slipping. It's like I don't have a year
grip. You look at tech man, you got a
boy life left. So tell me that every weekend

(01:25:53):
you still got you still got a couple more races left on the
side. It's like off it.
But once you once you get like faster, faster and then you you
realize like it starts to be getting a little more dangerous.
You got to start keeping up withall the all the tires and, and
the fluids and all that stuff and that's when it can become

(01:26:14):
expensive. So, but right, just just to get
out there and and. You know, it's good, as I was
mentioning to TJ when I said that it's good to learn how to
ride on on worn tires. You know, it's it's it's, it's
good to learn how to do that because if you don't know when
the tires falling degrading, then how do you know when to
change it? And as a beginner rider, you
kind of just have to go and you're not again, if you're Mesa

(01:26:37):
on these fast guys or whatever the case may be, you already
know when you should be changingtires and you're a beginner.
You know, you can't just be changing tires because the
person next to you is changing tires and y'all are doing
similar times. Yep.
Thanks. Thanks.
Yep. Yeah.
And then for me, the only thing I'll add to that is there's

(01:26:58):
always going to be people that Idon't want to go.
It's too expensive. And some people you'll never
convince. And other people, it's like
reset. There's a fear to them of going
to the track. Oh, I'm going to crash my bike.
I'm going to. I said, look, crashing your bike
on the track is like leaving your house and saying I'm a
crash on the street. You do you ever leave your house

(01:27:19):
and say you're going to crash onthe street?
No, because you're going to go out and ride, same thing we're
going to track. You go out and ride your ride
and you ride it the way you knowhow to ride it.
And you're actually going to be able to learn a little bit more.
Some track organizations even give the first or second session
of the day for free to a new rider just to get you to the
track so you can see what it's like.

(01:27:39):
And if you want to stay the restof the day, you could stay the
rest of the day. Like there's, there's plenty of
excuses, but none of them are actually really good because at
the, at the bare minimum, you'regoing to be a, a more confident
rider and you're going to have the ability to do so in a safe
environment. Whereas if you do go down at the
track, there's medical personnelright there, There's people

(01:28:00):
looking out for you if you crashon the street.
I mean, they, there's a guy thatcrashed on the tail of the
dragon. They found him three days later.
Dude, I just heard about that. I heard something not I don't
think it's the same story but some dude crashed some roads and
they found him like 24 or 27 hours later or whatever.
Yeah, they found this guy a couple of days later
disemboweled because of bear atehim because he died and a bear

(01:28:22):
ate him. So this dude left his house and
I'm sure that wasn't on his listof I'm worried about crashing.
You should be worried about getting about a bear, Yoka.
I'm going to the track because I've never heard of it again.
Eaten by a bear after they crashat the track.
I'm just saying. Yeah.
No, no, no, not at all. Well, guys, I think we could

(01:28:49):
probably keep talking about this, but I think we're going to
call it here next week. We're going to be talking about
Moto GP first era in the Motorsports, which is 2002 after
they left the 500CC. I don't know what Moto GP was
called before Moto GP so I I went to look it up.

(01:29:10):
World Championship. OK, there you go.
Yeah. The 500, the 500CC Grand Prix or
the 500CC World Championship? Or something like that.
Yeah. So we'll be talking about that.
So you're going to be hearing names that you have not heard in
a long time or maybe ever. It's going to be very
interesting. So definitely stick around for
that. I want to thank everyone that's

(01:29:31):
been commenting, liking, subscribing.
We appreciate you because without you guys we wouldn't be
here doing what we're doing, so keep up.
With just four random dudes talking to cameras.
Yeah, just before, just before random dudes.
Actually it would be just us, like on a WhatsApp chat doing
the same thing but not recordingit.

(01:29:51):
Exactly, exactly. You know, at least we look sane
and and and and senile. So sane and and calm.
So yeah, it's it's a good thing.So definitely we're going to try
to do our part. So until next week, my name is
Rex 45. It's the Be Forever Cool
podcast. You have TJ from two years and

(01:30:11):
coffee Reese from Attack Yamaha,the numbers guy, the real Louis
Ortega. Until next week, peace.
Peace, peace, peace.

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