Motorcycle Championships around the world discussed in S5 Ep 25

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Welcome back to another edition of the Be Forever Cool podcast.
My name is Rex 45. Tonight we got the real Luis
Ortega. We got Reese from Attack Yamaha
Performance. We got TJ from 2 Wheels and
Coffee. What's going on, fellas?
How's everyone doing? Let's start with TJ.
You know, got a whole week off of Reese and then you know,
refresh the September 1st. You know, it's still cool up

(00:25):
here. Something is over, like I said,
but I'm excited get back to watching Moto VP8 World Super
Bike and then following weak Moto America.
It's getting tight end of the year racing so looking forward
to it. Yeah, it's a lot cold up there,
man. I was just up there.
I just got back this morning andI had the heat on over the
weekend. I went to a, a, a a party for,

(00:51):
for some of the fellas I know. Shout out to the big D crew.
And you know, it was, it was chilly up in Boston, man.
I don't know what's going on, but it wasn't usually this cold,
that cold up there. But it was a little chilly, man.
So did you put the bike up yet? Are you?
Are you, are you going to wait it out?
Oh no, no, I, I ride until it gets at least 40° or you started

(01:14):
got to put on heated gear and stuff like that.
But you know, joyriding, let's say is not as much, you know,
can't, can't go joyriding. You know it's just A to B
really. Got you.
Is that is is joyriding a code for you?
You're working a lot. You know, I mean, you can't
really joyride on the streets, man, that now knowing the track

(01:37):
and stuff like that, like the ground's cold, you can't really
do much, you know, so. That's what's up, Reese, man,
what's going on? How you doing where you are in
the world? You know, you got a few zip
codes I think. Yeah, man, you know, out here in
Oregon heading down to Huntington Beach, but you know,

(01:58):
living the life, man. Can't complain.
Just finished testing so now they're in Podium Club so we're
good to go. I was going to say, I mean, you
know, if it was any other time in the year, you might be able
to say you can complain, but youyou boys are you guys are you
guys are right there. So we're going to dive into it
and see how things are progressing.

(02:18):
There's a few more rounds left and and a lot of races actually.
So you know, we'll dive into that.
Lewis, what's good, man? How you doing man?
I'm good, I'm good. I'm here and also in California,
where Reese is headed. I'm here for a few days for work
and yeah, that's it here in another wonderful shitty motel

(02:39):
somewhere. Come on, man, as you know, isn't
that life just a wonderful, you know, And then I, I have you.
I mean, you must have gotten to the point where you forget which
room you're in, your room number, right?
Let's put it this way, I've traveled so much that I've been
in the same room multiple times in different states.

(03:02):
Like I've been doing the road thing for a long time, not just
in this industry, but in other industries.
And when you travel to similar cities, you if I go to a city
that I've never been to before, I book one night only at a hotel
just in case that hotel sucks. I don't have to stay there the
entire stay. And after that first night, if
it's good, then I'll book additional nights.

(03:25):
If not, I'll book one night at another hotel.
So these are the little things you learn as you live on the
road is you know how to find good places to stay, good places
to eat. So I have a map of like
everywhere I travel, like where I should stay.
OK, all right, So you know you got, do you have a guitar case
full with stickers on it? No, no, no, no, I don't.

(03:46):
I don't try to make it too obvious, but I got a lot of
miles on my American Airlines frequent flyer.
That's what's up, man. You know, we got we'll we'll
book a trip later this year somewhere.
I got some points too. Speaking of points and trips,
you know, between world super bike, Moto GP, Moto America and

(04:08):
I'm pretty sure there's a lot ofother racing that are either
ending or coming close to the end of the season and stuff like
that. It's been a long time that Moto
GP, World Super Bike and World America, you know, been coming
down to the wire as far as the last few races and stuff like
that. So let's talk about Moto GP

(04:29):
first, because that's kind of and we talk about the Super
Sport classes as well, not just like the Super Bike class or the
GP class, you know as well. But let's talk about Moto GP
first, because it looks like Marquez, if he continues his
run, he could wrap it up as soonas Mezano.
Looking at the numbers is ridiculous.

(04:52):
You know, looking at that series, you know, I, I know I've
asked a bunch of times, but thisis a show.
So I got to ask again just in case the people who have not
watched the show before. But is there any chance in in
hell that anybody can catch Marquez?
We'll start with DJ. Absolutely not.

(05:13):
Absolutely not. I mean, at this point, I mean
they had up until the summer break to, to try to get close to
try something. I mean, you can see the numbers
we we signed like he's gotten P1or P2 in every session
throughout and there's no catching him.

(05:34):
Not at all. Yeah, I what are what are your
thoughts Reese? Any catching him?
Is it his to? I mean at this point I mean he
could probably take a few roundsoff, at least 4 rounds off and
and probably still win. No, this, this is game over.

(05:54):
I mean, to be that far ahead in points and what is it?
I think he can have the most points in Moto GP history.
I mean, that's it's kind of gameover.
I mean, what are we? What are we really watching in
second and third place now? Lewis man, does that make it
kind of not as fun to watch for the average, you know, fan?

(06:19):
I know we're going to watch because we, we, we, we like all
the technical stuff and all the stuff that most people don't see
and all that fun stuff, so. No, I don't think it makes it
less enjoyable for the fans because you got to remember
there's been other dominant riders throughout the years that
clinched the championship earlier in the season or
clinched the championship with three or four rounds to go.

(06:41):
And people still watch. There's still excitement and
watching racing, you know, in the actual event, in the actual
drama of of Q1Q2, the Sprint race, the actual race, there's
still a lot to see. I mean, you know, you watch
football games when teams are, you know, have no chance to go
into the playoffs. You still go to watch those same

(07:01):
football games even though they're irrelevant to the bigger
picture because as individual events, they're entertaining
events. Every single event is an
entertaining event for the people that are numbers watchers
that are just going to see who'sgoing to win the championship.
Yeah, maybe for them it's not that exciting.
But I, I think as again, individual experiential events,

(07:21):
every single race is for me, very, very exciting because
there's, you know, every race has something on the line.
You or, you know, anytime you put your helmet on, whether it's
in Formula One or Moto GP or anytype of Motorsports, you know,
anything had happened. And, and you watch for the drama

(07:42):
because anything can happen. You know, on any given day,
maybe somebody that nobody thought we could win a race,
could win a race. You know, if you didn't watch
that Austria race a couple yearsago where Brad Bender won it on
slicks in the rain, you missed an incredible event and then you
kicked yourself in the ass for not watching.
I didn't watch it because I figured XYZ person was going to
win anyway, you know, So I, I think it, the viewership will

(08:04):
stay high, the drama will continue.
And I think now maybe people, atleast on the Moto GP side will
switch over to looking at it as how many points can this guy
make? Because right now at the way
he's going with four rounds left, he'll, he'll beat the all
time points record with still 4 rounds left.
So he could pad that number. So now, you know, not only does

(08:26):
he win the championship, but maybe he sets a bar so high that
maybe nobody ever reaches that point again.
Because this level of dominance doesn't come by very often.
And if I look through the field,everybody that's currently in
the field, I don't see anybody in the field right now that's
ever going to be as dominant as Mark Marquette.
And I don't see anybody in Moto 2 right now that's ever going to
be as dominant as Mark Marques. I guess it's going to be a long

(08:48):
time before another Mark Marquesor Alien comes along that can do
what he's doing. You know, this is like, this is
seriously other level. This is Michael Jordan at the
peak of his game. This is Tom Brady at the peak of
his game. These are all like the best
athletes in the world when they're at that point where they

(09:08):
seem unbeatable, like they, you know, auras around them.
It's like, holy shit, like this dude can't, he should be
crashing every corner, but he's winning every race.
Like how's he doing? So, yeah, Reese and and TJ, you
just heard what Lewis said aboutno one in the paddock.
What does a new era or new Marc Marquez look like?

(09:32):
Because, you know, Alonzo's looking good.
You know, you see Alda gear is looking good, Acosta, they're
looking good. These are all guys that have
some potential, you know. Do you guys agree with with what
Lewis is saying as far as it's going to be a long time or do
you see some of these guys, if they get the right one and two,

(09:52):
you know, three, you know, advice, they may be able to do
what Marquez is doing. I mean, I think Pedro Costa
probably be the closest one right now because if it's
driving focus, you just got to get, you know, past that the
skill level is that you know, to, you know, get more podiums

(10:15):
than dial down. But I think he'd probably be the
closest one. It's hard to say because, you
know, March and you know, like before Rossi, like they had a
little significance to them and like changing up things that
way, celebrations and all that good stuff.
So I don't see that in any of the riders really.
Sounds like Zarko when he does back flips.

(10:38):
So I mean, I'll say Pedro's probably the closest one out of
gear and all of them are still learning.
So yeah, it's like like Luce wassaying this, this is something
that we ain't going to see in a long time.
I'm sure. You know, dominance like this,
unless, you know, Pekko can stepit up a little bit because we
got 2 championships and he's still in the mix.

(10:58):
But yeah, I don't know. It's just going to be
interesting to see how many points Mark can come out with
and and set the bar high. And and and have a different
legacy than Rashi Gray. The next way.
That's what's up. What are your thoughts, Reese?
I mean, to be honest, I mean. I.

(11:20):
I don't think we'll see it in a long time.
I mean, you got to look at Marcus.
He has set the bar so high and he's like the last of the dying
breed of an alien as you used tocall him.
So to have somebody like him come along, that's just once in
a blue moon. And I mean, normally when you
see that person coming along, you'll see it from Moto 3 to

(11:42):
Moto 2 to Moto GP. And I just don't see it coming
up just right now someone in hiscaliber or to his level to
actually do that. I mean, he has been in the era
of where the riders were dominant.
You have Rossi, Dolby, Pedrosa, you had the whole the whole gang
out there and he was out there with them.

(12:02):
So to to that level of his riding capability.
I don't think we'll see it for along period of time.
I think it'll be another 10 plusyears before we see it.
OK, all right, it seems like it,man.
I mean, only time will tell for these riders and stuff like
that. Let's jump into Moto 2GO ahead.
If Mark, if Mark were to run thetable from here to the end of

(12:24):
the year, let's say you know everything.
The stars align and he sweeps the table from here to the end
of the year. 16 O wins. He'll end up with 751 points.
We won't see somebody hit 751 points again unless they go to a
three race weekend format and every race is worth 25 points

(12:50):
like that's that's how crazy it could be.
If he runs the table, man, if heruns the table from here now,
he'll have over 750 points. That's, that's, that's playing
the game on easy mode, You know,it's crazy.
Well, I, I hope there's some fighters out there in the Moto
GP paddock. I, I think they're, they're a

(13:12):
couple, but it's been looking like the Marquette show for sure
all year. Let's talk about Moto 2
championship. You got Gonzales, you got
Connett and Diego Mariro. Mariro, you know, I don't want
Jinx connect. I know TJ connects your boy.
I like him too. I wish he had more wins.

(13:33):
You know, he he's only had two win.
He had what, one win this year, which is, you know, plus because
he's usually coming in second, he's had he's gone to podium
five times. Gonzalez four wins, been on the
podium nine time. Maria, who's who's starting is
coming to his own right now. Could be the dark horse that
that steals it. Second year in in the Moto 2

(13:54):
paddock. Let's talk about that, that
championship. It's a lot closer, you know,
there's 8 rounds left. It's only there's no Sprint in
Moto 2. So 25 points, I believe is, is
is the top points that they can get.
So we got we got 200 points to give away.
How is it looking in, in, in in Moto 2?

(14:14):
And I feel like Gonzalez is for him to lose because he and he's
been, you know, doing having some mishap these last few
rounds and still on top. But for your thoughts, TJ?
Yeah, man, I I want to see Kinetz finally pull it off.
I mean, he's like the dark horse, you know?
I feel like everyone's always against him and.

(14:35):
It's. Unlucky as well.
Sometimes I don't understand where like the mistakes that
happened, but you also got to say that it's Moto 2, man.
Like they're like they're all onthe same machine and and it's
like any given Sunday with with Moto 2.
But Gonzalez has been riding really well.
Yeah, what a third, third place and didn't finish in a third

(14:58):
place. But you know, Moreira is one
that, you know, looking out for as well because he's he's
creeping and he's not far behind.
So it's just really a toss up between these three.
It's going to be challenging, I'm sure.
I know as I get to the end. You can I'm sure that your your

(15:19):
your adrenaline and and like your focus, like everything gets
so tense that it's like you don't want to make a mistake and
it's easier to make a mistake atthat point.
So it's going to be interesting in the last, but rooting for
Canadian. Oh yeah, I feel yeah, man, I'm
rooting for him as well. I think it's a it'll be a come

(15:39):
up for Maria Gonzalez. I mean, he did it in in Super
sport. He signed for another year in
Moto 2 and it, he seems like, you know, he, he wants to be
like Top Rock in a sense. What are your thoughts, Reese,
on on what's going on in Moto 2 and who has the most to lose out

(16:01):
of these three guys? I mean, Gonzalez has the most to
lose, I believe. I mean, he's there.
I mean, it's his to lose. I mean, he needs to just you're
pretty much just managing. That's what he needs to do is
just manage himself and manage the points more.
I mean, Morera, he's if he can get his his self together to

(16:23):
actually do what he do when he has the used tires, the worn
tires and do it in the beginningwhen the tires are new.
I mean, he's he's going to be a deadly person.
I mean, he's going to be something that will keep an eye
out for on the upcoming, but he's he they said he's better
when the tires are worn down, but if he could do that on new
tires, he'll be he'll be absolutely great.

(16:45):
And then with connect, I mean, TJI know that's your boy, but I
mean I'm looking at connect likea like a Venialis man for real,
like, you know, he's a hit or a miss.
He's he's. I was.
Going to talk about he don't he don't complain.
Remember. He don't complain he just may
hit your break break when you goby you.

(17:09):
So I mean, I, I like connect, but man, that boy is just he is
either hit or miss. He's like, Jesus Christ, man,
what are you doing? That's I like them, But I mean,
you got to be just I know that'swhat winning.
Winning is nothing but consistency.
If you can be consistent, consistently on the podium,
consistently in the top three, you have a more you have the

(17:29):
obligation to chance to win the championship.
But just falling back there to the to the jungle, as you call
it in the back, you, you don't have a, you don't have a chance.
Is, isn't he like the, I don't want to say the prototype writer
for what teams would want in thesense that he lays it on the
line 100% all the time. And maybe laying it on the line

(17:49):
100% all the time is not smart because sometimes you have to
make decisions. I mean, you know, isn't he the
kind of rider that most teams would want, though?
I mean, he is, he's he's what you want as you're going to lay
it out there on the line, you'regoing to put it out there on the
line. But then again, we're, you know,
as a team member myself, you know, I mean, the attitude, man,
that's just one thing. And then the stupidness that you

(18:11):
actually do that's going to hurtyou.
It's all what you do on the outside too.
It's not just what you do on thetrack.
It's how you carry yourself on the outside and saying what we
have to carry ourselves. I mean, it's the way you carry
yourself when you're just out and about, you're just walking
around or you with the team. Yeah, OK.
I, that's, I, I'm hearing you, you hear all that, Lewis, what

(18:32):
are your thoughts, man? I, you know, it's, it's a close
race, you know, you know, I, youheard Reese say Gonzales has a
lot to lose, but I think Connetthas the most, he's the, he's
the, he's been in Moto 2 the longest and has at least the
show for it. I mean, I think, I think they
both have a lot to lose. I mean, obviously Gonzales has
the the champ he has. I'm not going to say he has one

(18:56):
hand on the championship. He probably has like 2 fingers
on the championship right now because he's in the drop.
He's got the most wins, he's gotthe most wins, he's got the most
podiums. He tends to be a little bit more
consistent than Connect overall,especially over the last three
races, he's definitely been way more consistent than Connect.
They both had some DNFS in the last three races, but even

(19:18):
Moreira had ADNF in the last three races.
Right. But just to jump in, I think for
Gonzales his DNFS was more mechanical.
Yeah, no, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't him crashing or
anything. It was mechanical.
So that's, but again, you win asa team, you lose as a team.
So whether you crash the bike orthe bike blows up, it's the same

(19:38):
thing. Man is the DNF system goes in as
a DNF. So I think he probably has the
most to lose, but he also is in the best position.
He's in the lead already and he knows that he's got the speed to
be there. His stats already show it from
the first half of the year. And now that we're down to the
last eight races, I think he in the next couple of races will be

(20:02):
his moment to shine. Because if he can put that extra
pressure on the two guys behind him by just finishing in front
of them, he doesn't have to win.He just has to finish in front
of them. Keep that points gap alive.
That's all he has to do, you know, from here on out, he can
manage it. And this is where I think
Moreira is a little bit different than Connect.
Connect in that position will fold faster than a Chinese lady

(20:26):
hocked up on all the coffee in the world because he starts to
worry about winning when he should be worrying about
bringing it home, bringing it home in front of the guy that
you need to be. You know, put don't put yourself
in a position where you're goingto crash or you're going to be
in a bad spot in the track. Get in the front, stay in front,

(20:47):
manage to race, don't do anything stupid.
And I think, you know, considering where Moreira's
coming from, I think he has a really good attitude to do that.
With that said, I think Moreira will finish ahead of connect at
the end of this year. Gonzalez a win, but Moreira will
finish in front of Connect only because Moreira's already coming
off last year, a championship. He knows what it's like to lead

(21:10):
at the front and be at the end of the season and manage those
extra points and he's got nothing to lose.
He's a rookie. Even we toss it down the road.
You know what your rookie is supposed to do that the fact
you're in 3rd place and you're only a few points behind a guy
that's been in Moto 2 for like 17 years, like beat his ass.
There's no reason why you can't beat him.
You're only what, 6-7 points behind him at this point?

(21:34):
6 points behind, dude. That's that's that's not even a
podium. That's Connect finishing 12th
and him finishing 7th. So yeah, I wasn't.
Sure that Marrero was a rookie. I thought he was in the second
year. But you, you might be.
Yeah, he's a Rook. He's a, he's a Rook that's.
He won the Moto 3 championship last year and moved up to Moto

(21:54):
2. Yeah.
So that's even pretty impressiveto to be to be a rookie.
I mean, 'cause I don't even think Pedro was fighting for the
the championship in his at his rookie year like he did in the
second year out of these three guys.
And I'll put this all to you, Which one of these guys are
taking their teammates to dinnerand and bringing their bags just

(22:18):
to help them out within the races for the next 8 rounds?
Or is it all up to them to kind of bring it home on their own?
No, you have to bring it home asa team.
You know the mechanics, everybody, your data guy,
everybody that's in that garage with you.
Even though they're not riding the bike with you, they're a
part of the bike with you. You know, the, the guy that's

(22:40):
tuning the bike for you, your data guy, your chassis guy, All
of these people are working to make sure that you're in the
best position possible to win. Well, these three guys,
honestly, I think Moreira is probably the most likely to be
the most humble about it becausehe's in a position that he
shouldn't be in. And I'm sure that the team

(23:00):
helped him get in that position.You know, he's probably worked a
lot by himself getting physically ready, getting
mentally readily looking at tape, learning, understanding
the data, the differences on a Moto 2 bike.
And I'm sure the team has, you know, got people sitting with
him constantly in between every session, going through every bit
of data to see where he can finda couple of tents here and there

(23:22):
and take a corner a little bit different.
And I'm sure he's got a rider coach that's out of different
corners, seeing how he's taking the line and helping them
adjust. Like these guys at this level
have a lot of people helping them and, and you have to be
very grateful for everybody thathelps you because the Moto GP
paddock looks big from the outside, but from the inside,
it's like the Moto America paddock.

(23:43):
Everybody knows each other. And if you start coming across
the wrong way, it just, it just decreases your, your stock.
So these younger guys are alwayslooking to be, to stay humble,
stay hungry, but stay humble andstuff like that.
At a certain point they lose their humbleness, some of them
and become kind of Dicks. Pedro Acosta, for instance, like

(24:05):
he's got a lot of dickishness tohim, you know, I just hate to
say it. He comes across that way a lot.
You know, the way that he talks sometimes, the way he goes to
the box sometimes and and loses his temper and this and that.
I understand it's the heat of the moment.
But you know, I look at that myself.
If I went home and something happened and I walked in my
house and I told my mom, man, fuck this.

(24:27):
And before I'm throwing shit, I get that my ass beat.
Right. But you know when, when you've
been, when you've been winning your whole life, you don't know
that other side. He says I haven't been winning.
Rossi was the same way. Lorenzo was the same way.

(24:48):
Everybody, everybody wants to win.
But you know, you, you always have to keep your temper in
check because you're not just working for this employer.
You got to think about the next employer because there's no
guarantee you're going to stay with this company for more than
another year or when your contracts over, it might be over
and you get labeled as that problem child.
If you get labeled as that person that's difficult to work

(25:10):
with, it becomes more difficult to find a job, even if you are
the most talented rider in the world.
There's a lot of talented riderssitting home right now.
We'll talk about Andrea Yonone in a little bit, who's got all
the talent in the world. One man is about to be forced
into retirement. Why?
He got a little bit too much dickness in him, yeah.
There's some places he can go ina world or go ride if he wants

(25:32):
they'll. He might be going to the baggage
championship. That's that might be the only
ride he gets and he can still make something from his name.
But again, his reputation, the things that he's done, missing
out on practices, you know, doing all these things that were
detrimental to the teams he worked on, Dude, that's a lot of
baggage to carry into your 30s. You know, it's not a lot when

(25:53):
you're in your 20s and your fast, but when your 30s man,
they just, I mean this is the Moto GP is the Leonard Leonardo
DiCaprio racing man. Once you get a certain age, I
got to move on to a new bitch that's younger.
Yeah, there's some of that man. There's some of that.
TJ, what are your thoughts on on?
I know Lewis mentioned the team and everything like that.

(26:15):
What about the other riders? Connett's teammate, Gonzales
teammate, Marrero's teammate. You think they they, they're
going to get in the the fight and get in the way of these guys
and stuff like that? I do even have the pace to, to
even be upfront to even, I mean,we Baltus, right, Because Baltus
is probably the closest one. He's in fourth place.
So Connett might have a little bit of help you.

(26:36):
You think these his teammates are going to help out any?
I mean, not really, I don't think so.
I mean, I mean, lately we've just been seeing what Marrero, I
mean, we've been seeing bolts upthere, but his last last result
was 12th and 7th. So I mean, I know Catalonia is a

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pretty fast track and it's I don't know, I don't think he's
not getting much help for sure. But I know Anshu has had a good
result this past couple and let's see if he had T But as far
as the team mates trying to stepin a way to get in in front of

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Gonzalez or murder, I don't see that.
OK, All right, that's what's. Up all comes down to the the
qualifying though, you know, so like that's that's they kind of
hopefully just get out to a goodstart as a team.
You have a good setup. I mean, sometimes the team don't
have a good setup, but the rideris, you know, rise around it and
still can get a good time. So hopefully they have a good

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setup to disappear. Does Canet have a teammate or
he's on A1 by team? No, he has a teammate, Baltus.
He's also on Fanatic Fantic as well.
Barry Baltus. Oh, he is, Yeah, yeah.
But then right behind him is Viente.
Oh yeah, they're not on the sameteam.
No, they're not on the same team.

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So yeah, I'll, I'll save the team question Reese when we
start talking Moto America, because even even the thick of
things, and I don't want you to double talk to yourself between
Moto GP Moto America. But let me let let let let me
ask this because you know, Lewishad brought up a good point
about, you know, the the assholenest of riders and addictness of

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riders and stuff like that. Maria on Connect, you know,
they're similar in the sense that they, you know, they both
will fight for position. They, they, they then they're
not scared of the, the battle and stuff like that.
But in history, throughout history of Connect, he's always
been on the losing side of that when he tried to fight where
Maria has always had the upper hand.

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Outside of that, you know, who do you think has the better
chance? Or you just go to history?
I mean, I'm going to have to go to morale.
I didn't. Hear that question, he wants to
know, is Connect going to fold like a cheap suit?

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My, my, my phone, my phone was exactly my phone was breaking up
I missed. That I could have said it like
that too connected hold like a cheap suit or you know, he he's
going to be Rudy and bring and bring one home.
I mean, I'm going to have to go on Marrera in that battle.
I mean, Marrera, you know, like Lewis said, he's very humble.

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But Connect wants to win, which we all, everybody wants to win.
But in the same sense, if you know that, hey, I need to bring
the most points home, Connect doesn't understand that concept
yet. You need to win.
Yeah, you want to win. But if it's not today, the best
sense is just to gain the most maximum points.
You can not throw it down a downa chute and now you got to crash

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fast or a parts list going down,you know, and that's, that's
Canet's problem. And then he just wants to win
and he wants to push and bang upon people.
And I'm like, no, that's not what you need to do.
Just gain the most maximum points you can do your best
effort and, and bring it home safe and sound where we can go
home and gain the most points. And that's that's the best sense
in that case. And I think Moreira has the

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better chance of that instead ofCanet.
Well, we're going to see man andwe'll we'll circle back to this
as this weekend is coming up in Cataluna.
Let's jump over the world super bike because like I said,
there's a lot of championships. We got to talk about super bike
between Top Rock and and Bulaga.It doesn't seem like there's
anyone else that may push up close to those guys in the

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championship, which is which is,you know, that's a whole
different story. There's 4 rounds left of of
World Super Bike, so it's getting close.
What are your thoughts? You guys think that top rack and
defend it? Do you think that Bulliger just
need to just run his race and not worry about the championship
this year? Because next year, and probably

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the next few years, it's it's, it's his to lose.
No, I think, I think Buller going somewhere now, I mean, you
know, to to beat someone who is the champ, that means a lot too.
So he's he's definitely been trying.
You can see it all year. He didn't want to go through any

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mistakes. When he did, he showed it.
But I think he still wants to put in the fight to try to win
the championship, which, you know, you just got to finish up
on a top rack. That's all, which is not easy
said and done. But I know once top rack goes to
Moto GP, I'm sure it's all Boogashow for for, you know, maybe a

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couple of years. We'll see.
But I think he definitely wants to put the fight into the end of
the season. He's only down a couple points
anyway 20262826. 26 My bad. Yeah, 26.
Yeah, you can pull it out. Yeah, I, I, I hope so.

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Reece, what are your thoughts there with Top Rock and and
Bulaga? You know, it, it's, it feels
like his top rocks to lose because he's been riding so well
lately. The only thing I can see that
can Jack him up was, you know, similar to last year when he got
hurt and he had to recover. I really don't see I, you know,
I don't know what the the 2026 Pentagon looks like, but it

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seems like the the 24 Pentagon is just a little bit not a full
match to the BMW all the way toprack is riding it.
Well, I mean, you got a thing. I mean top rack is a different
kind of animal. I mean he can ride any bike to
be on a limit. I mean, he's rode that that R1
beyond his limit when he actually was on there.

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But besides Top rock having ADNFor something burying us out of
his control of a, you know, you know, a malfunction or anything
like that. I mean, it's top right to lose.
But the same thing with TJ said,I think Bulliga wants to win and
he wants to win now because thatwill solidify Bulliga's run.
I mean, if you're if I'm playingagainst the best, I want to beat

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the best and right now Top Rock is the best.
So if Top Rock leave and I win, does that really say that I'm
the best? That just says I'm the best now.
But I didn't beat the best. And that's where Bulliga might
want to stand at. And he wants to beat the best to
say I am the best. What are your what are your
thoughts about that? Lewis is you think that you

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know, Bulliga is thinking that, which also, you know, maybe he's
thinking next year if if he beatTop Rock, Top Rock this year,
does that put a little bit of fear into the guys for next
season and saying, hey, we don'tstand a chance as well?
Any thoughts on? Whether or not he beats top Rack
or not, I mean, that fear is going to be there next year
because his performance the lasttwo years has just been on

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another planet. You know, the only person that's
really given him any competitionhas been Top Rack.
And last year, you know, he could have, he had as good an
opportunity last year as he has this year to win the
championship. He's only 26 points behind.
And that's literally that's one race.
You know, if he wins one race and Top Rack has ADNF, like now,

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they're down to a point difference with four races left.
If he was to win every race and Top Rack came in second, Top
Rack would still win the championship.
But again, he's just got to go out there and ride the best he
can as a competitor. I would think that top that he
wants to be Top Rack while Top Rack still in World Super Bike.

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Like he doesn't want to wait till next year to win a
championship. He wants to win a championship
this year and he wants to beat Top Rag before he disappears.
Because when top Rag is gone, like everybody else says, yeah,
you're the champion, but you're the champion because the the the
previous champion vacated the belt.
You didn't beat him for the belt.
And at the end of the day, your check still looks the same

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whether you beat the champ to become the champ or not.
You're still going to get paid really well to be at the champ.
But as a personal goal, I would think Nicola Buliga wants to be
top rack before top rack goes away because looking at the rest
of the field now, I hate to say it, I mean, he's not going to.
He's probably going to be able to walk away with the

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championship next year. I don't see anybody moving to
Mike or to a position that's going to be able to compete with
him right off the bat. And if the new Ducati that
they're going to race next year is even better than what he's
racing and now and he's doing asgood as he is doing now on this
bike that maybe is slightly inferior to the BMW, then you

(35:45):
know, he's going to pull a Marc Marquez in world super bike.
He's you know, he's going to be the guy to beat every single
weekend, every single every you know, he might run the table
because he's not going to have anybody that's going to be
competing. The closest guy to him this year
is who Petrucci and Petrucci is 150 points behind him.
You. Know he's going to be on a
factory bike next year. He could be on 2 factory bikes.

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He's still, he's still going to be way back.
There, he's still going to be way back there.
Yeah, so I, I, I hope that it comes down to the wire.
I hope Niccolo Bulaga is able topull out one or two wins in the
next couple of races, get that margin down and maybe take it
down to like the last weekend ofthe year and actually have a
shootout head to Like that's, you know, like for me, I love

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that. That's the, the poetic side of
racing is, you know, you line upon that last, that last race of
the year and let's say there's like a six point difference and
you have to beat the guy. You have to beat him by at least
two or three positions to make sure you clear that and you
battle and, and you see who's the real champ, man.
So I just hope Top Rag doesn't run away with it because then we

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got 2 runaways in one year and that does.
Suck. That does that.
That does suck. You know, you mentioned go
ahead. Oh, sorry, I, I mean, I was
going to say that last year Top Rat didn't race at this track
because I think he was injured and Bulliger ran away with two
races out of it. So he he's definitely got a an

(37:21):
edge right now to take advantage.
But, you know, we'll see how that goes.
Right. You know, you mentioned
something, Lewis, about, you know, Bulliger wanting to win
this year and maybe have some regrets.
You know what it is, What is it about?
And I don't know if we can answer it in today's show or
even in the future. What is about folks that you

(37:41):
know, Jordan still think about the one championship he didn't
win and rather be able to play that and have the six he have.
Brady's thinking about the two that got away from him.
You know, Rossi's thinking about2015.
You know, what is it with guys and, and, and Buluga hasn't
lived that yet. He may if he doesn't win this
year and win next year. What is it about people that you

(38:04):
know, lose sleep over and and you talk about the checks.
They're not struggling for money.
So they got enough checks to be like, I shouldn't be sweating
this, but what is it about like,you know, people that you know,
hold on to the ones that the thelosses that got away from them.
Let's start with DJ. Let's.

(38:24):
Start with DJ Give. Me a SEC.
That's a talking. We don't.
See it, man, we see. It, you know, because you, you
look back at the, the what ifs like, like only if I did this
one thing and this would have changed.
And he started, you know, contemplating and doubting
certain situations because you almost had it.

(38:46):
Like, it's just going back to the Patriots.
You know, when we lost to the Giants, you know, they threw a
Hail Mary and it should have been batted down.
And yeah, yeah, I I don't want to break up that second one.
But there was one way they threwthe Hail Mary.
You know, it should have been batted down.
He caught it on his neck. And it's just like, you know, if

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that catch didn't happen, you know, we would have had another,
another ring, you know, So I always still think about that.
It's just certain things where you just want perfection.
You just want perfection, so. Or that year y'all lost to the
Eagles, where we knocked y'all out.
Oh yeah? How many?
Minutes y'all got. Hey, we still put y'all on the

(39:32):
shelf though. You did.
You did, you know? We had to put y'all on the
shelf. Not a lot of teams did.
And I guess Rossi and and Marquez and these guys are
saying and Jordan, not a lot of people have, but the ones that
have, it still hurts. But you want to add anything to
that Reese, you're, you're, you're, you're in the game still
and, and stuff like that. So you know, is, is, is, do you

(39:55):
have from memory one that that got away from you and and you
know, you can lend a little bit how these guys feel with the
ones that they've lost? One that got away from us, I
say, and I can't remember what year that was.
That was when Tony Elias took it.
I mean, that got away from us a little bit.

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I mean, it's always that what ifit's just like TJ said, it's
that what if, you know, what if we did this a little better?
What if we did that and we couldhave had it and we didn't crash
here, didn't do that. So you're always going to live
in that moment and say damn, we could have had this and
solidified a certain, you know, aspect of where we're at.
But yeah, I mean, after a while you kind of just move on and go

(40:37):
on to the next one. But still, we're going to live
in that in that era and still live in that life, you know,
because you want to you want to you want to be the most dominant
person or the dominant team in the fat eye.
You want to be in that that era of greatness like Brady Jordan.
You know, we want to be in that era of the greatest team, you

(40:59):
know, when you look back at it so.
Yeah, you want you, you want to,you want to go in battle with
some gladiators. You don't want to win a war.
And you know no one, there's no one else on the battlefield to
oppose you. Numbers guy.
I mean, you hear these two guys here, you know, you care about
checking, you care about the overall.

(41:20):
So is there, is there one, one trophy that gets away?
As long as long as the checkers got all the commas in place,
it's a It's a trophy. No, I mean, the the guys at the
top of this sport are like any athlete at the top of their
sport. They had to maintain this level
of aggression and this level of competitiveness to to to be at

(41:43):
the top of the sport. Because like any sport, if you
really want to be the best of the sport, you got to wake up
earlier than everybody else. You got to work harder than
everybody else. You got to be mentally and
physically better than everybodyelse.
Like you got to push yourself that much further and, and these
guys that are at the top that are really battling, you know,
the guys like your Valentino Rossi's, your Jorge Lorenzo's,

(42:05):
the guys that really put their stamp on any career, whether
it's a motorcycle racing in football, like a Tom Brady in
basketball, like a Michael Jordan, like a Magic Johnson, a
Larry Bird, like competition is what they're all about.
That competitiveness is what gets them up in the morning
because money's not getting up in the morning because they got

(42:27):
more money than they need. Fame is not getting them up
because they're more famous thanthey're ever going to need.
The only thing that gets them upis that juice, that fire to be
better than the next person. If if an athlete loses that, and
I feel that there's a lot of athletes that have lost that,
that have become a complacent, like I'm the 7th place guy, so

(42:47):
I'm just going to work as hard as a 7th place guy needs to be.
But these guys at the top that stay at the top for years, not
one or two years. Because you can have one or two
years where you're just lucky and you end up a championship,
Johann Meer. But then you don't ever do
anything ever again, you know? Waiting for that.

(43:08):
You ride around for your, your 6th, 7th place, you get your
check, you create a nice little career for yourself.
But these guys at the top, they're not worried about the
career. They start worrying about, you
know, they're worried about I got to win.
Like for them, it's all about the win.
They have the money, they have everything else, but they still
get up at 5:00 in the morning. They still do their, you know,

(43:29):
Pilates, they still go run that 3-4 miles.
They still go ride that bike, you know, 100 miles in a day.
They still do all these things because they just have that
competitive negativeness that nomoney in the world can quench.
I mean, to this day, Michael Jordan will will compete against
anybody in golf and put big money down because he just wants

(43:51):
that competition. He wants to prove like, hey, I'm
still this competitive. Like there's not right now he's
in a battle against NASCAR. I.
Know. And honestly, I think he wants
to win because he doesn't understand not winning.
And that's the kind of mentalitythat these guys have at the very
top. And, and it, it will eat Bulaga
if he doesn't beat Top Rank, even if he becomes champion next

(44:13):
year, it'll still eat him that for two years he couldn't beat
this one guy when he was healthy, when he was, when he
was, you know, at the top of hisgame, when this, that he still
didn't beat this one guy. You know, this is, he's, this is
that elusive, this is, you know,the, the, the, what's the,

(44:35):
what's the Eleanor? This is his Eleanor.
This is his GT500 that he can't seem to steal because something
always happens. Hey, listen, we'll see because
next year it might be a little bit crazy too because they'll be
on a new bike. Well, let's jump into World
Super Buffalo. It's a great white Buffalo.
Sure is. Let's talk about world super

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sport before we get into Motor America.
You know, Stefano Manzi and Canna chew can on chew can on
choose is a surprise. I didn't I have to honestly say
I didn't see him, you know, being the number two guy in the
championship or Masia for that for that as well, because Masia
is a rookie coming over from Moto 2 to to super sports.

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What you guys think? Is this a foregoing conclusion
that Manzi Manzi seems like he'sthe bully in in super sport.
I think he's a he just looks at people and they and they go the
other way. You know, what are your thoughts
on on on Manzi? You know, he's up at least by,
you know, 60 points, give or take 59 points or something like
that. You know, he just got to hold

(45:41):
off these guys. But you know, Kat on Chu and
Messi, these guys have been riding well lately.
What are your thoughts? TJ yeah, I mean, I like Hand
Untrue and Marcia, but you know,I haven't really been falling so
much to the world super sport. But Manzi is one that I've been,
I've been seeing holding his ownand I think that he'll probably

(46:04):
take it away. Being up almost 60 points, I
feel like it's more manageable coming to this stage when you
get closer to like the 2520 point raise and you worry about
more mistakes and stuff like that.
So and I feel like More unto A Messiah would try to bow for
that second place, but I think he'll pull it off.

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It's definitely something to look forward to.
I know there's a lot of racing this weekend, but I definitely
want to watch all the classes because I know it's tight battle
coming to the finish. So you got to see see all the
camaraderie and all the battles and the fighting that goes on in
inside the paddock and outsides.Yeah, Reece, it might.

(46:47):
It'll be a win win for you got Yamaha boys.
I mean, Manzi's been Manzi's been fighting against Bulaga a
couple of years ago and then last year against Gonzalez.
And Gonzalez has now moved over to Moto 2.
And I mean, he may be kind of feeling like I wanted to beat
Bulaga. I wanted to beat Gonzalez.

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And and now he's sitting here next to Cannon Chu sitting here
like saying, man, I got to beat this guy.
I mean, you know, Cannon is no slouch, but what are, what are,
what are your thoughts with those two guys, the Yamaha boys?
I mean, cans no salt. I mean, he's a he's a hell of a
writer. I mean, Manzi just he's on a
tear. He's on a different level.
I think it's his to lose. I mean, it's nice to see the

(47:30):
Yamahas up there and you know, there are nines and taking it
away. I mean, they're taking it away
in all the Super sport categories.
So I mean, it's pretty nice to see that.
And I just I think Manzi's actually going to take it.
I mean, I'm, I'm looking forwardto seeing Manzi up there, but
can I mean, I think he's going to be a problem child for next
year. I think he's going to I think

(47:52):
he's actually going to be one ofthe top, top writers that go
compete and I think he'll see him.
I give it within the next year or so, not next year, but maybe
after that. I give him see, you probably see
him up there in the world super backstage.
You you think Yamaha can call you up and and and and tell you
to tell Ken on Chu that he has to take second place to Manzi?

(48:17):
You think anyone can tell him there's a team order?
I, I don't think there's no teamorder there.
I think it's his day. Just don't take each other out.
I think that's, I think that's the order.
Just don't take each other out. Do what y'all do, but don't take
each other out yet. Just just let's go.
You know, because man, he's going the world super bike, so
he's getting a bump, right? So for him, it's his only shot.

(48:40):
I think and I think that's wherewe're going to see him shine at
and see hopefully we can, you know, have some more competitive
nature up there next year for usfrom the World Super Bike
paddock, OK. All right, well, your thoughts,
Lewis on on on the Super sport class and the Yamahas and should
there be team order or is is cancan can put up the kind of fight

(49:00):
that he has to put up because hehas to be ruthless to beat
Manzi. No, he can't put up the kind of
fight it takes. The the The thing is, Manzi is
just a little bit more of a seasoned veteran and probably is
a little bit more mentally strong, sly in the way he calls
about his race craft. You know, Canon true is is, I'm

(49:21):
not going to say he's young, buthe's younger and he's still a
very competitive guy coming fromMoto 2.
I mean, seeing the guys that arein the top, you know, of World
Super Sport, knowing that some of these guys came from Moto 2
just goes to show you the level of talent in Moto 2.
The level of talent there is unbelievable.
And when Stefano Manzi kind of moves up next year, I mean, it

(49:43):
looks like Moto 2 riders that are moving from Moto 2 to World
Super Bike are pretty much goingto dominate World Super Bike,
which is really wild to me. But again, it just shows the
level of talent in Moto 2 that they can move over the World
Super sport and kind of just, you know, be right at the tip of
the sword, be in the top five, be in the top six in the first
year that they're over here. I think I think Anshu will put

(50:07):
up a good fight. And as long as Manzi keeps the
rubber side down, I I think he'ssmart enough to manage his
points lead and get through the finish line.
So hopefully he stays healthy, he stays safe, nothing goes
wrong and he'll move up to superbike.
And then next year, Anchu and all these other young, you know,
kids are going to are really going to put on a great show.

(50:29):
I think super sport like Moto 2 is the most entertaining class
to watch because this is where, you know, young boys are growing
into men and growing men have todecide, you know, how far am I
going to go with this? You know, can I get to the next
level? And it's just such a great mix
of talent to see some of these young guys actively competing

(50:50):
with these guys that have been there for a while.
And just, you know, No Fear and No Fear.
Lots of talent ready to go, not coming with any excuses, just
coming with, you know, piss and vinegar ready to fight.
Yeah, you know, before we go into motor America, I will say
it seems like, and you guys can kind of chime in, it seems like
to me and I'll I'll pick on mayor since you brought up

(51:13):
mayor, the mayor, the Quatararo.We'll we even we'll even throw
it back Naya and these guys whenthey were they came out of Moto
2 into Moto GP. The the the Moto 2 grid wasn't
as hungry I think Will Grimy as it is today.
Is that fair to say? It wasn't as deep.

(51:34):
Right. Yeah.
Yeah, Leah, now, now I feel thatin the last maybe six years,
probably six years, maybe maybe 7, just before COVID, it, it
seems like Moto 2 got a lot morecompetitive because remember
that they used to run on the CBRmotor and it was, you know,

(51:57):
pretty much a, a stock series. You couldn't mess with the ECU.
It was a sealed motor. It was a sealed distance.
And it's still the same. But I think in the last few
years, especially with the change to the Triumph motor and
they've got more torque and everything else, these guys are
just becoming a lot more competitive.
And the guys coming out of Moto 3, they're just coming out of
Moto 3, like elbows as sharp as they can be ready to fight like

(52:20):
it. I don't know.
It's, I'm not going to say it's a little bit less courteous now,
but it's definitely less courteous now.
Like they they still think they're on Moto 3 bikes.
Yeah, I I think these these young kids are testing big bike,
big up street bikes that are modified obviously for the
track, you know, so they're on 600 and thousands now.

(52:41):
So when they jump on to Moto 2, they're not worried about the
power. It's just, you know, suspension
and you know, so OK, let's jump into Motor America.
Reese, I mean this, I mean, you know, I hopefully you're not
getting any Gray hairs from thisor losing any sleep.
You got 2 rounds, 5 races, you know, your, your, your rookie as

(53:05):
far as the team is leading the championship close in the
points. I mean, you know, which is
pretty cool to see from a spectator standpoint, I have to
say. You know, let's talk about, you
know, what has it been like you guys just had test in a week
ago. What, what's the, what's the,
what's the team like these last few rounds?
It's been a couple of weeks since we spoke last.

(53:27):
So two weeks has passed, you know, have you lost like 510
lbs? What's going on?
No, you still got the pounds on there, but no, it's, it's, it is
stressful. I mean, you know, we still going
in with the same mentality. You know, we want to win.
We're going there expecting the win.
Of course we're going to horsepower.

(53:48):
Everyone knows we're going to CODA and that's horsepower
alley. But you know, we, we have our
our ways and we have the, you know, the skill level where we
can compete. And I mean, we're, we're looking
to go to win or most likely, youknow, still a round, then we go
on a jersey where it's a little bit more suitable for us, I

(54:10):
believe and see where we go at all.
Right. Let me ask this, you know, at
the beginning of the year after Herring came off his win and you
know, the beginning of the year until now, do you guys, you
know, feel like you're in the you're poised to steal one?

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Or do you feel like you guys, regardless of who won last year,
you guys felt like you, you werethere to you.
We you had what it takes to to be where you are at right now.
I mean, we always have, we, we always have that feeling, you
know, to be where we're at nowadays.
I mean, you know, not saying anything, but people was pretty
much counting us out and we werelike, don't, don't count us out.

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You know, I was like, that's onebad mood to actually do is to
count that that team, our team out.
I mean, we've, we've been together for quite a long time.
And like Lewis said, it's not just a rider that's going to
win, it's a team that wants to win as well.
So and I mean, there's a lot of tricks that you can pull up your

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sleeve. And you know, we just go with
our mindset saying, hey, we're going in here to win.
We want to do our very best and be up there in the battle.
You never know what can happen. You know, it is racing and you
know, it can, you know, be anybody today.
So that's what we want and we want to be up there in the

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battle, up there in the top three or, you know, top 4 or
whatever it is up there in that front row, that front group of
guys. I mean, we're going here to
Dakota and you know, we're looking at expecting to either a
win or, like I said, steal one. We're looking forward to it,
man. We can't wait.
TJ, you know. What are your thoughts on on the

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championship? It's really close.
I, I, I know you're, you're, you're a Heron and a Cam Bobier
guy, Yamaha guy. I mean, you know, you, you, you,
you might have two different beers you're drinking at once,
man. What are your thoughts on the
championship? You know, coming.
To an end. I mean, you know, I like, I like

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Josh Herring and he's fortunate that he had a little injury from
his the last round, so I'm sure he'll be ready to go.
But like I said, he's like a oneman show out there.
I heard he broke his leg in several places like Rossi did a
few years back. I don't know what's going on
over there, but can. You.

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Hear it? I just don't want to interrupt
when my eyes roll. Goodnight TJ man, but.
But you know, the the Yamaha camp man, you know, like Kanye
is sitting in fourth right now and and Bobby found working his
way up to take the lead in the championship.
I feel like that team focus right now is is at a high

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intensity right now. So I feel like it starts with
Reese to make sure I get them all there safe at the track and
on time to get everyone's head together.
But I think it's going to be a good weekend, you know, at a
quarter to see what Bobby Paul can do out there.
I know Bobby and BMW, he's goingto put down a fight.

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So like he's going to be racing high intensity.
So it could be anyone's day. But I'm sure Bobby can hold it
off. All right, so we, we have to
make sure nobody kidnapped Reese, right?
The. Cartoon show that that I can't
even remember that someone's always getting kidnapped.

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But what are your thoughts, Lewis, under where things are
right now? I don't want to say it's Beavis
a butt head or one of these. Nothing crazy, don't you worry.

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I, I, I find it really interesting that you find a
fracture 3 weeks after you breaksomething.
You know, I'm not a orthopedist,but most X-rays will reveal a
fracture in the first couple of X-rays, not 3 weeks later.
And you know, there's a certain somebody, I'm not going to name

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him by name, that found a fracture 3 weeks later.
And it, to me, it feels almost like setting up an excuse to
make himself not accountable andalso setting himself up to, to
look like a superhero in case hewins.
Because if you release somethinglike that, that I fractured my

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leg 3 weeks later and then you go into a race and you win.
Look at him. Josh is great.
He, you know, he battled throughthe pain of a broken leg to win
the race and blah, blah, blah. But if he loses, well, you
understand, he's out there battling, but he's battling on a
broken leg. Look, man, Rossi had a broken
leg. That was a legit broken leg.

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Finding an X-ray 3 weeks later that says you have a fracture.
I mean, all right, if you say so.
But you know, unfortunately, Josh Herman has cried wolf too
many times for me to take it seriously when he says something
like that. So, you know, I, I, I'm not
going to give him a pass on that.
I thought you wasn't saying no names.

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I didn't say no last names. There's there's more than one
Josh in the paddock. I didn't say it was Josh.
There's more than one only. One only one Josh so super bike
though. I didn't say you got a super
bike. See, there you go.
You're assuming. Why are you assuming?
It could have been Josh from theTwins Cup, you know.
But again, you know, like I but again, maybe it's mind games,

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maybe it's this, maybe it's thatat the end of the day, you still
got to go on a track. You got to prove it.
You know, you got to race. If you got diarrhea, you got to
race. If you got a stomachache, you
got to race, you got a flu, you got to race.
You know, there's been plenty ofriders that have raced in
adverse conditions and put everything they can into it and
didn't do social media posts fortwo weeks or three weeks after

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an event and do all this other stuff and try to.
Get the fans on their side because you know I'm injured on
this and that you know, you weren't winning when your leg
was good. If if your leg is actually
fractured. So now that your legs fractured,
you're going to do better. Or you just trying to set up
excuses to either cover your, you know, the lack of your

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ability to bring it home after you kind of walking away with
the championship. Or you're trying to make
yourself set up so that if you do win the championship now you
can kind of be like, yeah, I pushed through all this pain
and, you know, all this struggleand all this effort.
And you know, I, I give so much thanks to my team and my come on
bro, just go fucking race. Aren't they how superhero

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superhero stories made? Here it is, you remember, back
in the South. That's how villains are made.
So the. Syndrome wasn't a superhero.
Syndrome was bad guy. So the the cartoon was South
Park and. Who used to get kidnapped on?

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South I don't know, I think Kenny was always talking about
somebody getting kidnapped, but you know what I can remember
we're going to leave Reese out on this because he he's
competing in the championship asa part of the team.
But let let let's ask TJ and Lewis.
I mean, you know what, how do you see it coming playing out

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towards the end here? You know, you you got Cam in
there. We got Herron that makes you
know he's what how healthy or not he is.
And you got Bobby Fong, who you know, seems to be at the right
place at the right time. I mean, I think yes, it's tight.

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Like I said, it might come down to Jersey, you know, and the
time's out. Last time I've been to Jersey,
you know, a couple of Yamahas inone man show.
It's going to be interesting to see who who can take Koda
because I would probably decide for sure, you know, who's going
to win the series. But I think Bobby can hold it

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off. You know, he's only up a couple
points. Like I said that BMW got a lot
of horsepower, you know, so see if they can hold off to BMW
basically just stay in front. But I feel like they're going to
be on the podium for the Yamahas.
I feel it. OK, OK, yeah, I mean, I, I, I

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feel like it's, it's going to be, you know, between the,
between the Yamahas and and and and the Ducati really, because,
you know, you know, Cam has justbeen up and down this this
season, even though he's right there in the point.
It's, it's just, you know, he's he's kind of like a crash away
sometimes. What are your thoughts, Lewis?

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I, I think it's, I think it's going to come down to the BMW
and the Yamaha. If, if Yamaha can leave CODA
with two good podiums, they don't have to win, just be on
the podium, keep the points really close.
I think the biggest competition right now or the biggest threat
is definitely, definitely Beauvier at CODA.

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He's going to have a huge horsepower advantage.
And that is a fast track. That's like a horsepower track
that's very similar to like yourRd.
Atlanta's or these bigger trackswhere horsepower does make a
difference. But I think it'll come down to,
again, unless something crazy happens at Coda where there's
some DNFS or something like that, it'll come down to Jersey.

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And the great thing about Jerseyis Jersey is not a horsepower
track. Jersey is a technique track.
Horsepower doesn't matter there because the fastest bikes to
ever go around that track have been in the low one 20s forever.
You know, the tracks been open now I think 1617 years. 2008.

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Yeah. So 17 years or 18 years later,
the fastest time is still the same fastest time from when the
from where the track almost opened.
So that lets you know that this nobody's going faster at this
track. Nobody found a way to find
another second, second and a half of this track in almost 20
years. Why?
Because the track doesn't allow for it.
It's not configured for that. It's configured for style, for

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technique, for corner entry, forspeed.
You know, it's not a horsepower track, so you take horsepower of
the equation and now it just comes straight up to riders set
up and determination. You know, again, Beauvier has
won a lot of races at New Jersey.
So I think he right now is the biggest threat to the Yamaha

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team because I mean, I remember when Beauvier was on a super
sport bike. I'm not going to say a date
because I already know I'm old enough, but he went out there
and he set a lap time on a SuperSport that would have put him in
3rd place on Super Bike that year on the grid.
And this is years ago. Because, I mean, the Tommy

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Aquino was still racing. All these guys were still racing
in Super Sport. This is a long time ago.
And Cameron Boba had Yeah. And Cam Boba went down to
breakfast and pretty much told all the YYES guys because this
is when Yamaha had the YES teamsand and what was the other one?

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Clark Racing was still the racing And he pretty much told
them he's like, hey, I'm going to go out today and I'm going to
set the fastest lap anybody has ever set on 600 this morning.
So good luck. Keep him up with me now.
He went out and he wiped the field with them the entire day.
So the dudes had a lot of laps around Jersey and he knows how
to get around there fast, man. So again, I think it's going to

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come down to Yamaha and BMWBMW has the edge of coda and then
it's just going to be great and determination for Yamaha, BMW
who wants it most of Jersey 0. Man, listen, go ahead.
I got to say this. I mean, here we go.
Yeah, I do. I mean, it's only a what, 17?
We're up 17 points on Cameron infirst.

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So like like Lewis said, I mean,I think like long as we get on
the podium, you know, if Cam wins, then we take third both
races, we'll still take the leadgoing to New Jersey.
And that's where you want to be.You want to be able to take the
lead or be maximize the most points you can you can have.
And going in New Jersey is a thebig monster, the triple header.

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And the one thing that comes in New Jersey that a lot of people
forget is weather that rain is going to play a big factor if it
does rain. And I could tell you this, so
Yamahas are a weapon. When it comes to the wet,
they're a weapon. You can ask JD that one and
he'll tell you. So when it comes to the wet,

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that Yamaha is a weapon in the wet.
And you know, so I mean, like Lewis said, it's going to come
down to it. It's pretty much going to come
down to Jersey's round to see where we're at.
Like TJ and Lewis said, I mean, it's going to come down to
Jersey so, but as long as we canstay right there coming into
Coda, I think we'll be just fine.

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Nice. I'm looking forward to watching
it. And you know, I, I, I, I may
text you just to, you know, see if you're smiling.
We'll see how we we'll see how it goes.
I I try not to bother people when they're working because,
you know, I know how that is. Let's talk about the Super sport
class. You know, it's between PJ Jacobs

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and Matthew Schultz at the moment.
Schultz is defending the title. P JS looking really good.
You know, we're talking about 7 points difference there.
I don't know if in in Jersey do Super Sport have three races or
if it's just a super bike that does that.
What are your thoughts about theSuper Sport race?
You know, a few rounds ago it was looking a lot closer than it

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is right now as far as more riders.
You know, it's only two guys that are that are that are
fighting for it, you know. What are your thoughts, TJ?
You know, I've been around PJ Jacobson before, so I'd love to
see him come back in and and, you know, take the lead and and
win it for sure. I mean, I know skulls before has

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been trying for so long and he'salways coming up short and now
he's he's got a, you know, a championship.
I know a lot of people have his day.
It's about his attitude and stuff like that.
But you know, I think he might hold it off, but I really hope
DJ pulls it off. You know, I want to see that
Ducati win it with the team thathe's on with Kayla.

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So Apex. Reece, are you able to comment
on Ducati in a nice way? I mean, you know.
I mean, I can comment on a nice way.
I mean, the bike is what it is. I mean, the bike is 1 hell of a
bike. I mean, it's quick.
I mean it has a lot of low end torque, a lot of grunt.

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But was that the way that Matthew's riding?
I mean, I think he'll end up taking it.
I mean, hopefully he can keep his head on his shoulders and
and do well and not have any foreseen errors, malfunctions on
a bike or ride a little bit above the limit, you know, and
run off or kind of do anything crazy.

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But I think if he stays right there and I think if he keeps
his head on his shoulder, that'sawesome.
I mean, I talked to Matt every race, every round.
I'll I'll go up and talk to him and, you know, tell him to keep
his head on his shoulder and usually does fine.
But I think at the end, I think it's going to come down to a 2
bike shootouts coming in New Jersey.
It's a two round, I mean two race round at Jersey.

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I think it might come down to that and same thing as the Super
bikes. So I'm looking forward to
having, you know, being honest, I'm looking forward to a Yamaha
running away with a double superbike, Super sport win.
Yeah, I mean, you know, we, we'll, we'll be, we'll be out at
the parade. It'll be a little wet though,

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sorry. I'm sorry, it's the only time we
can have champagne, right? Right.
What are your thoughts, Lewis on, on super sport?
What's going on with Schultz and, and Jacobson?
And and you know, to add to whatReese says about Schultz, I
mean, he's he's the closest thing that's riding to like a

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Man Z or, or a top rock on a bike where he's been able to
make that Yamaha do some things that the Yamaha riders.
I mean, I know Blake is close, but Schultz is doing it a little
different. Yeah, I think, I think this
championship is going to go to Schultz.
I think he's going to defend hischampionship.
You know, he won it last year pretty, pretty resoundingly with

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some really great podiums. But I think this year he's got a
little bit of extra fire under his belly to win another one.
I think there's going to be somechanges next year that's going
to give him an opportunity to move back up into super bike.
And I think he wants to cap off this part of his career in super
sport with another championship.And I just think that he he can

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ride the wheels off the bike. You know, I've seen him riding
that bike and I see him doing things on that bike that really
are are special. That's what that's where I can
put it. There's something special, and I
think after the the last little blow up that him and PJ had, I
think he's got even a little bitmore fire in his belly to just
beat P JS ass and and this is opportunity to kind of go out

(01:12:05):
with a big Hey, you know what, you know, I know you got little
man syndrome, but here you go. I just won another championship
from you, being a bigger man physically and emotionally.
Ruthless. Yo, Jesus.
Yeah, if you don't want the fact, don't.

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Don't listen. Ruthless Joe.
But it's true. You know, I think PJ really hurt
himself with that little blow uphe had.
And, you know, and it just, you know, this is, this is the kind
of thing that somebody like Mattwill take as motivation to be
like, you know what, now I even got more reason to beat your
ass, you know, because I guarantee you when he does win

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that championship, he's going todefinitely poke the bear a
little bit on his way out the door.
You know, so, so I, I honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Blake
really steps up this weekend at CODA and kind of steps in and,
and even buffers between himselfand PJ and, and Matt to even
help Matt out a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if the

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Strat team kind of, you know, gave Blake a little bit
incentive to to slow PJ down andmaybe leave Koda with the
championship. Right, right.
Yeah, I, I can see that. I mean, I, I think that's, that,
I mean, I think Schultz has a better chance of having Davis
help him out than the, the, the PJ Jacobs teammates because, you

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know, they just haven't been, you know, they're close to the
front, but they haven't been outfront like that.
And you know, you know, Davis has shown that he can run out
front. So at least he has a chance to,
to get in the way. But if you can't get in the way,
you can't help your teammate outat all.
So I, I agree with you there. I mean, I, I think that, you
know, it's, it's a good chance for, for the Yamaha boys to, to

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wrap it up sooner than later. Yeah, if PJ gets involved or he
if he can stay in the mix, I seriously think that the the the
Yamaha team will leave Koda, if not with the championship, with
a pretty good lock on the championship.
Maybe they only need one race atJersey to like really put a
stamp on it. It won't come down to the last
race of the year. That's my feeling.

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That's what. That's what we'd like to hear,
man. There's a few more rounds left.
You know, we're already well past the hour and change marker.
So I think we're going to wrap it and not talk about what's
coming this weekend. We can, we can wrap up on Monday
or or Wednesday if you guys are around for that.
But I, you know, I want to thankyou guys.
This is very it's been very insight, insightful, you know,

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just talking about these championships because you know,
it's it's crunch times and and Idon't wish I kind of wish I was
in your shoes race, but when thechampagne is popping, not right
now. It comes down.
It's stressful, man. You know, because it, it, it,
you know, I mean, I think the good thing for you guys is you

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guys have done it already and, and so you guys know what to
expect. But you know, when, when, when
teams are that close to it in the big one, man, I, I, I got to
assume there's a lot less sleep happening and a lot more sweat
happening. You you 100% right about that.
So I want to you all right? Yeah, now for sure, man, It's
wild. I want to thank you guys for

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coming on to tonight. I want to thanks to listeners
for commenting and continue to like and subscribe and and shout
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We really appreciate it because without you guys we couldn't be
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Peace. Peace.