Vroom Vroom Wednesdays: MotoGP Hungary 2025 Round 14 Recap & look ahead at this weekend in S5 Ep 26

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Episode Transcript

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Listen to the be Forever Cool podcast.
My name is Rex 45 and it's the room room Wednesday show this
evening we got Tyson in the building also Sir John Hampton
in the building as well. You guys welcome to the show.
How you guys doing? We'll start with Tyson.
How's? It going everybody, I'm doing
great. Nice, nice.

(00:20):
That's what's up. How was your day?
How's your week? That was OK.
It was a nice long weekend. That was very fun.
My girlfriend was out of town soI was extremely lazy.
Hey, listen, that's that's the best thing to do over the Labor
Day weekend when you can, when you can lay around and do
nothing. So John, how about yourself,
man? How you doing today?
How was your week? I'm doing good.

(00:41):
I'm doing good. I can't complain about nothing.
Weekend was cool. Actually.
I got the race. We're at Rhode Atlanta this past
weekend, so you know, a lot of work to do to get back to where
I want to be, but it's also, it was exciting and good for the
weekend, so I won't complain. That's what's up, that's what's
up. Let's, I guess let's talk about

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that a little bit before we jumpinto Moto GP.
You know, what was that like foryou and like what do you think
you have to work on? I've only been at Rhoda Atlanta
once in the first huge fan of the of the of the track and the
layout. So I definitely like it, like
it. And and when was the last time
you raced before you this weekend?

(01:26):
So I actually gested around thatRoebling thinking about 3 or 4
weeks ago out of Savannah, you know, and it went well out there
too. Definitely.
I had just did a track day there, so it was easy to go back
and race there and try to find agroove.
It's easy to, you know, face progression.
It's been a while since I Rd. Rd.

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Atlanta. So it was still like that
shocking factor of like, oh, this is a little different here,
you know. So the weekend was overall, it
was this good weekend. You know, it's just kind of not
comparing it to where I was not consistently riding and racing
and expecting to be back at thatpoint immediately.

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You know, just or just giving myself the grace to don't like
remember, you know, a bro, like you're not even riding right
now. Like stop expecting to be quick
in 30 threes and you you're not even riding, you know.
So yeah, a little bit of grace, but solid weekend overall.
Right, right, Tyson, you know a little bit about that as well,
don't you? Yep, certainly do.

(02:32):
It's it's tough when you take time off, you know it, it really
like mentally you're always at the race track.
I'm always at the race track mentally.
So like, but physically, you know, it's a whole different
animal And, and I think that's one of the hardest things is
adjusting, adjusting your mind to saying, hey, you know, you've
taken time off, so don't beat yourself up.
Which for me, that's usually usually like the last thing I

(02:54):
think about. I can flip tables over
everything, all sort of stuff. And it's just like, Oh yeah,
that's right. So we know, we know about that
motorcycle racing, but let's talk about this previous
weekend, 2 weekends ago now coming up on two weeks ago, our
Moto GP was in volatile. First time in Hungary in a long

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time, well over 29 years, I believe.
Let's just do a quick recap whatyou guys thought about the
Sprint race and and the main race and this kind of overall
how you thought the season has been, how you think the season's
been going so far. Start with Tyson, sorry.
Yeah, I, I quite frankly enjoyedthe race.

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I was kind of excited for it, seeing as that they haven't
ridden there in a while and no one really had experience.
So I was like, you know, this could be quite an entertaining
one. Just everybody all over the
place. I mean, you know, the only part
that wasn't sort of entertaining, I guess, was Mark
just being Mark and just effortlessly stomping on the

(04:01):
rest of the grid. Like, like, I feel bad kind of
for like the rest of the guys. Like, I mean, I know they're the
best in the world, but like at the same time it's like he's
like on the same bike as you guys.
But. I thought it was pretty good.
I mean, I know some people were quite concerned with like the
safety and stuff like that with the track, which I understand to
a degree, but if your concern issafety, you should get in a car

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like you're riding bikes, like there's risk.
Come on man, there's no one in the in the riders meeting
talking about Loudon. I mean, it is a risk.
Yeah, Loudon's sketchy. Like that is a sketchy track, to
be fair. And I mean, we all would like it
to be safer and stuff like that,but they're at the top of their
game. It's a tier one track to a

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degree, you know, like, it is what it is.
But yeah, that Mayo crash was actually was pretty sketch.
Like, yeah, it should probably work on that corner, but yeah, I
enjoyed it quite a bit. Yeah, no, there's there's no
perfect tracks and no, you know you, I think if you grew up on
that race track, you kind of you, you know what to do, what
not to do kind of thing. I think, you know, for me,

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Loudon was my first track, so I didn't that's I thought every
track. So, you know, it's just like it
only gets better from here. So.
So I feel you. You know what I mean.
We'll talk about the track a little bit more.
But Sir John, I guess. Is it cool?
Just saying, Sir John. Yeah, Yeah.

(05:27):
Cool. What what what do you think of
of overall of, of the race, the Sprint and, and the main race?
And I, I haven't asked you guys.I guess we'll find out, you
know, who you guys are rooting for, if you guys are rooting for
anyone. But what do you think of it, of
the race races? No, I think the race was, it was
beautiful. One is interesting again because

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they don't have the knowledge, you know, it's a new track to
everyone that was on grid. So that was pretty awesome to
see who can adapt, who that track favours their rider style,
who's going to, you know, to be able to adapt the quickest.
Of course, it favors a lot of marks Marquez's what he loves,

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you know, his riding style, you know.
So it was it was kind of one of those like, OK, well, who's
going to go chase him, you know?So to see honestly, Bez Niseki
again out front, giving him a little bit of fire for the
little bit of time that he did that was a beautiful thing to
do. I feel like that's huge for him
as a rider and he's for the prayer team to see them out

(06:30):
front. Definitely with Jorge coming
back with the right that he evendid that weekend.
That's just good news for them in the future if they can just
continue to piece it together. So.
Yeah, I, I, I agree. So let's talk a little bit,
let's talk a little bit about Honda.
What do you what do you guys think of what Honda finished?
They look really well. They also signed back Luca and

(06:55):
Mir. So you know what, what are your
thoughts on how Honda did Tyson?You own a Honda, right?
So I think. I do own a Honda.
You said, you know, so you're you're you're a Honda fan.
You like Honda like, I mean, I like Honda too.
I got to, you know, what are your thoughts on how, how, how
Honda did? I think they're doing great.
I mean, from where they were thelast couple of years, I mean,

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it's obviously a huge step in the right direction.
I mean, Luka Marini and 5th, wasthat in the main race?
I think was he 6th in the Sprintas well?
Something like that? Yeah, I think something like
that really well. What was he?
Mir was sixth. Good for Mir as well.
Marine was fourth in the Sprint,Even better.

(07:38):
I mean, you know, they're on theup and they're one of the
premier teams. You know, like it's sucks when
you see Yamaha or Honda, it's like seeing Ferrari at the
bottom of the of the table. Like, you know, everyone's heart
hurts a little bit when they seethat.
So it's good to see them coming back up.
Hopefully they can get some, youknow, more development in maybe

(07:59):
some different riders. We'll see.
But. Which brand did you just compare
Honda to? I mean, I wouldn't quite call
them Ferrari, but like they are like they're just one of those
sort of brands. I've always been there.
Like, they're huge, like Ducati is the Ferrari of bikes.
But like, at the end of the day,when it comes to performance and
like actual wins on the track, yeah, I'd say probably Honda's a

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little bit closer than Ducati. Right, fair enough.
They have the same dominant stepFerrari did and stuff like that.
And and you know, yeah, that that's huge.
We'll talk a little bit more about that.
What are your thoughts, Sir John, about Honda?
How they doing? I know you have a Yamaha, so I
don't know how much of a Honda. I mean, I don't really have

(08:45):
issues at a Honda, so I don't mind giving them some praise,
like they stay behind me. We're good.
But no, I feel like 1 is great because you got Luca Marini,
which is honestly, he's a good writer.
And I questioned his desire to go to Honda knowing Honda was in
their rebuild, trying to figure out life space.

(09:08):
So it's good to see some hope this season, you know, to see a
couple rounds ago Zarco be able to put the Honda out front.
You know, they're saying they'llactually finish races like the
Honda's are finishing races. Like when they start finishing
races consistently, that to me is a good sign.
You know, then you can start climbing your way up the up the

(09:29):
ladders, running to placement where you finishing at and stuff
like that. So I think that was a good round
for them as well with their riders finishing as good as they
did. Yeah.
What were you guys thoughts on Zarko before we moved on?
I mean, it seems like his candlewas the best at the French Open
and it's kind of just coming down, coming down.
Honda did sign them or LCR did sign off for two years.

(09:52):
So he will be on the the new bike, the new bikes for 27.
What are you guys thoughts on Zarko?
I mean, he definitely has had a great season, I guess in general
compared to previous seasons, but I mean, the bike's tough.
He did a great job with that win.

(10:12):
It's certainly petered off, but you know, he's still in a Honda,
I'd say. So do you, you know, do you, do
you agree with what he's saying,Sir John?
And also, do you think it's Sarco the the tracks that
they're going to now the bike orit's just, it's just sometimes
riders just do better. I like to quote Lewis, You know,

(10:34):
your home track gives you a, youknow, a half a tenth or
something like that. Honestly, I feel like it's all
of that when you got the it's your home track.
So ideally that's the track thatyou're most comfortable at, but
also psychologically that's the track we have the most pressure
because it is your home track, you know, So like, it's good to
see him actually do great at that track.

(10:57):
As far as into everything else, I mean, it's I feel like, and
this isn't a not to Zarko, but it's typical Zarko riding.
You know, he's going to have flashes of speed.
He's going to get close to winning a race and or win a race
as reason like that's just what he does.
And he can ride anything you putthem on.
But he's never, I won't say he'snever.

(11:17):
He just hasn't shown that he's the consistent threat throughout
a season. But he will show you a flash of
like, damn, that kid can rock, you know, So I think it's
darker. And again, he's right now,
honestly, I think he's helping the data that Honda can get from
him riding. And in those flashes, it's
excellent for them to continue to build the bikes for the Luca

(11:37):
Marini and mirror, you know, take his data, use it for them.
Because obviously I feel like that's their stallions for Honda
right now by choice though. And and do you and do you guys
think that Honda made the the right decision and essentially I
mean they keeping all their riders well against Zarko got
two years, but Marini and and Mirror got a year.

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Don't you guys come in, I think as Diego coming in for every
place in Tomcat LCR, do you think that's a good look for
Honda, what they're doing? Diego Moreira.
Yeah, yeah, he's he's, he's finefor for next year.
Oh, he did. I thought that was a rumor, but.
I mean, no, I got to guess you're right.

(12:21):
It might be a rumor, but I thought I I thought I saw have.
No idea if that's actually a rumor or not.
I I just thought I saw it come across my feet kind of deal.
But I mean, consistency is probably key for them,
especially in this stage in their development.
Like I wouldn't be tossing out all of your riders for new
riders at this point, like the bike was good.
They're at a similar situation or, you know, Ducati had a year

(12:42):
or two ago, Sure, you know, switch up the riders, bring
people in, keep one person. But this stage, they need
consistency to develop that dataand make their bikes better.
Like you just adding more and more variables to the equation
isn't helping anybody or your bike.
But Diego Marrera seems to be, you know, a new, another prodigy
to a degree. So, like, it doesn't hurt like

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him or some cat. Like, I don't think that's going
to hurt them in any way. It probably frankly will help
them, but. Right.
What are your thoughts, Sir John?
I found is a question mark for me right now and it's just like
they're doing good and they're doing a lot better.

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I just want and hope that their team is putting forth the effort
to one, keep these riders safe because for a long time that
bike is really unrideable unlessyou were Marc Marquez.
And even when you were Marc Marquez, it will still try to
eat you alive, you know? So as long as they keep
themselves with the development and into developing A rideable

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bike, I feel like they will be OK.
The riders, I mean, I feel like they're taking a gamble with the
hopes that the team will do the work and the effort to get a
solid contender of a bike. And then they can now showcase
their skills on that bike. And now they can maybe, you
know, pick up that fallen Angel of Honda and become like the

(14:10):
rider to start putting it on podiums and doing this stuff.
Now they got the media. We're not the media for that
point, you know, but they got the presence of like, hey, you
know, like the Marc Marquez and Honda Air is over.
Let's talk about the Luca Mariniand the Juan Mir of Honda now
because we stuck with it throughthe trenches for us to get good
again. So it's a little shaky for me.

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I think honestly, Honda's going to maybe do something and Honda
Yamaha in 2027 when they switch to the 88 fifties or 8 hundreds,
I think that's when they're going to to come back
competitive again. Also, you know, you just got to
make it through the rest of thisseason and next year.

(14:53):
Yeah, I agree. And and Tyson, you're right.
I think it's just hearsay right now.
I couldn't find anything confirming Diego moving yet, but
it looks like it it's it may happen, but it's not confirmed
yet. Let's talk about yeah, let's
let's talk about Yamaha. They didn't struggle as bad as I

(15:15):
I forget which where they were at.
I think I think Czech Republic or maybe Red Bull Ring, but they
still, you know, they were out of the top ten.
You got. What are you guys thoughts on
that and and on where Yamaha is right now?
I believe in Misano. They're going to be bringing the
V4 engine finally to to the race, so that should be a good

(15:36):
look for them. Miller got resigned and so you
know, and I'd be curious to hearif you thought they'd made the
right decision between Miller and Oliveira.
What were you guys thought somehow Honda did.
I'm sorry, Yamaha, do you? Want to go first?
Second. Yeah.

(15:56):
Yamaha. My heart, my baby, my baby.
I feel like you know, there something they're figuring out
something, you know, they they of course the start of the
season was wasn't the best at all, but they were able to piece
some rounds together, which is good news.
Obviously they're working behindthe scenes, but I feel like you

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have two world champions on on your bike, factory bike and
you're struggling to make this thing get in the top tennis
Diabolical to me. Definitely when for my personal
opinion, you have Fabio Quadrillo, which is one of the
best skilled riders to me on thegrid right now.

(16:40):
For him to have to struggle so hard.
You guys got a lot of work to doand so I do hope that that V4
does something well. I know the regulations maybe
won't allow you know, Quattro Wrens to race the bike.
I wish put John Miller on it forall I care, but the test rider
on it I feel like is you get data, but you're not going to

(17:04):
feel the results. I feel like you know, So I just
wish that was slightly different.
I would love to see Jack Miller at least on it or to see what
it's actually capable of. I do feel like they did a great
decision with picking Jack Miller over Oliveira just
because Jack Miller, his personaas far as the garage atmosphere,

(17:25):
chemistry, he's easy to work with or he has a good
personality. He can ride and he can't give
you some flair on here. And then I think he just has
more spirit. Exactly.
And I just think he has the experience to tap into more than
Oliveira. So I feel like they made the
solid choice with that. I just want them to get back to

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being the Yamaha that I want andthe Yamaha that I know, you
know, like you got you got you got 2 again, two world champions
on on your bike. You know, like you should be in
the top ten. And for my personal opinion, you
have one of the best riders on the grid on your bike as well in
five BL Quadraro. And he can't do nothing with

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that bike, not for a turnover race.
You know, he can barely make it a Sprint.
And to get that thing over 4th place, that's a problem to me.
Yeah, and, and he looks like he's he's, he's pushing beyond
the limits and he's starting to crash where in the previous
years he wasn't crashing. So he's definitely motivated
because you know, you wouldn't be, you wouldn't be crashing if

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you weren't motivated. What are your thoughts Tyson on
on Yamaha? I mean, I, I agree with pretty
much everything Sir John said. I, I, I'm probably more
pessimistic about them then Sir John.
I think they're just throwing whatever they can at the wall
and hoping that it sticks. Like my concern, like compared
to Honda, Honda's kind of like generally in a similar sort of

(18:54):
middle, lower tier and they kindof have some good turnouts,
whereas they're all over the place.
They'll win a race and then they'll be dead last the next
race and then they'll, you know,be top ten and then they'll be
dead last again. And it's that's kind of a
concerning thing for me seeing is that like you want
consistency to a degree. And that's what I think the V4,
I think they're just throwing something at the wall at the V4

(19:16):
and hoping that it fixes problems and keeps Fabio.
I agree with you, Sir John. I think pure talent.
I'll probably exclude some of the younger guys just because we
haven't seen so much about them so far.
But like pure talent on the grid.
Fabio is probably the only person who could realistically
compete with Mark on an equal bike.
I would love to see that throw down both of them on competitive

(19:38):
bikes would be unreal. I think the only chance for that
is 2027, though. I it's not happening next year
unless Fabio moves to Ducati like or or Aprilia at this
point, this stage in the game. But yeah, he's he reminds me a
lot of 2020 to 2023 Mark Marquez, like just absolutely

(20:01):
riding the piss out of the bike and just doing whatever he can
to pick up some points. And if you know, sometimes.
And you get hurt for it or it doesn't work out.
But yeah, I'm relatively concerned about that.
I hope it works out. I genuinely do cuz like Honda, I
consider them one of the premiersort of brands.

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It would be terrible to see them.
It's terrible to see them at thebottom of the grid.
I agree on that, but I have to say, I mean, vinyalas can cut,
you know, he might be able to run with black as well, No?
Oh my. God, vinyalas.
But I mean no, no. Oh no.
Oh no. Wow, we.
Were talking about Zarko and I was like you mean vinyalas

(20:44):
adjacent? Come on, Vinny, Alice is 1 on
almost four different manufacturers.
I mean, you know, I know. It's very good, very impressive.
It's. Huge.
And he already knew the Yamaha was messing up before.
Right, right, he said. Red Bomb.

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I've never seen a 2 step in a premier racing grid.
Oh man, so Cuatarara, No, no Bagnaya, no Bazecki, none of
those other guys. I'm just, I'm leaving the young
people out. So huh.
I just don't think they're in the same ballpark.
But you think Cuatarara is I? Do for sure.
I mean, like, if you look at them like these other guys, like

(21:30):
I think they're doing the best with their talent and the bike
that they have. But like Fabio, you look at the
rest of his team and they're notdoing well and he's doing 10
places above them almost every race.
Like eventually, you know. I hear what you're saying.
I mean Vinyallis is kind of likeMiller.
I think they helped. They both those guys helped KTM

(21:52):
take a leap when they got the KTM.
So you know, I think there's something there, but I like what
you guys are saying Let's talk about Morbideli and the Jan
Antonio Morbideli got one more year.
I know some other folks on the shows writing Morbideli off at
the beginning of the year and Bastionini and some of these
guys cuz they. Were.

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At the bottom, but what do you I'd love to see how you guys
thoughts on on on Frankie. Did he deserve to get one more
year at VR46 or is he just is helike Kawhi and and the owner of
the Clippers? Fast Frankie, Fast Frankie
Morbidelli. He's a good rider.
He has skill and honestly, he has the bike which I no not, but

(22:39):
he has the bike that is helping make his skills a little bit
amplified with being on that bike.
But I mean he can start a race and he can ride the race for the
most part, you know, and it's hit or miss on if he saved his
tires properly, you know, to finish the race in the top 6.
But it's the mistakes he make sooften to me that's like is mind

(23:03):
boggling me. Do you know like you make the
weirdest mistakes that cost you the biggest penalties that hurt
you the most. So often, like so often.
Like how is this even possible? So that part I don't understand.
I mean, at the end of the day, everyone knows it's a big shift
coming up in 27, so I honestly, I'm not too worried about

(23:25):
shuffling my grid on bikes that I know I'm not going to be
racing more than After Nature anyway.
So sure, I'll give him a seat too.
You're already here, already gotrapport with you.
Let's see what you can do next year.
Yeah, my bad. I think Frankie's more like Tony
Yayo to 50. Oh my God, you love him, but
he's always doing. Something wrong?

(23:46):
He's always doing something wrong, man.
Always. Tyson I pretty much agree to the
most part on that. Like dude just can't get out of
his own way. Just like we all know those
people who just like all the heart in the world, all the
whatever skill or experience andthey just, they just seem to put

(24:07):
that left foot right in front ofthe right and just trip over
themselves. You know, I was looking at the
standings real quick and I'm like, I mean, he's beating Fabio
by not much, but he's also nowhere near the other 20 fours.
So I think given the regulation changes, like I'm not too

(24:28):
shocked that they kept him. Like why why break up the party
before? Like everyone's going to be
looking for contracts coming into 2027.
And I think that's what everyone's sort of like, you
know, waiting to see like what'sgoing to happen, you know,
almost like right before an election year kind of deal, you
know, like, let's just let's wait to see who wins to see how
this economy is going to turn out kind of deal, you know?

(24:50):
Do you do you think Dijon, Antonio and back now hurry up.
Looking forward to seeing the 26th Ducati I.
Don't think they're looking forward to much.
I bet Peko is he wants anything but a 25 Ducati right now.
I don't. Think it's going to help him?
It's not. It's not.
As long as he's going to get. Sick.

(25:12):
You see what Frankie's doing on the 24 and you see what Alex
Marquez is doing on the 24 so and he won the champion no, he
didn't win the championship on the 24, but he was close he was
close Let me see what else am I all right?
I think they, you know, Elisha had came to race, but I think he

(25:33):
got hurt so he didn't really getnone.
So is so it's possible that somecat Conchantra may be out of a
seat and also well, at the moment, Olivera is out of a
seat. Wait.
Didn't some cat already lose hisseat like months ago?
I thought he was hurt. Yeah, I think he was injured.
I think it was. Yeah, I thought they took a
seat. Sorry, my bad.

(25:54):
No, no, no. I think he got injured during a
practice round and then the second the test rider end up
getting injured too. So like both of them got injured
back-to-back and then they threwsomebody else.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So, but what what are your thoughts on on those guys losing

(26:15):
their seat? I mean, I feel like Oliveira
should have a seat because he had it worse than mayor.
I mean, for the last like 5 years, some other rider, I think
there's only one time that he took himself out outside of
that. It was like some other rider
taking them out and and taking them out for like, you know,
more than four races in in the season.
Yeah. Yeah, Olivera is just that kid

(26:40):
is a magnet for Rex, but I don'tknow who who gets taken out more
him or mirror, you know, like, but they're always on the tail
end of getting wrecked out by somebody else, like every single
time. And it is it's heartbreaking
because Olivera does have skill.Like he was able to do some
things and like she like put thebike up front a couple of times

(27:01):
in his career, you know, but forsome reason he's just not able
to avoid the bikes aren't able to avoid him.
You know, he's just magnetizing it, you know, so I it's like to
to see him get written off, but it's like you rather got to get
fast enough to get away from that group of people doing all

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the wrecking, you know, like that's pretty much your only
option because obviously stand back there.
It's not helping your career out.
I. Agree.
Go. Ahead.
I'm really not surprised either of them lost their seat,
frankly. Like what is that?
You're only as good as your lastrace.
I mean, at this level of racing with this amount amount of money

(27:44):
on the line, like, I mean, it sucks.
Everyone would love to have, youknow, I gave you 3 good years or
whatever, you should give me a hand or whatever.
But that's just not the world welive in, and it's not the series
you're in. And it is what it is.
But I feel for Miguel more than I feel for some some chat like
he's he's like seconds off the pace.

(28:06):
Like he shouldn't have been on the grid to begin with.
Like, yeah, that seems dangerous.
That seems like putting a novicein an expert race, you know what
I mean? Like.
Almost, but I think it's one of those things we're not what I
think. I know for riders if Moto GP
comes calling you have to accept.
Because Moto GP contractor they gave me one right now.

(28:28):
So so I. Don't fault him for it.
I'm not saying like I wouldn't do the same thing.
Yeah, but if I, if I guru went to the to the to Honda instead
of a Berylia, Samcat would stillbe in Moto 2.
But they, it's the I'm gonna mess up their name.
But LCR, the Asian side, they want a Japanese ride or Asian

(28:52):
rider on a bike, as they've donewith Tekanakagami for years and
stuff like that. And which makes sense, right?
And because there's a lot of Asian riders racing in all parts
of Asia right now. And when he goes to Indonesia,
where he's from, he's like a Godover there.
Samcat even in Moto 2. So you know, it makes sense, but

(29:14):
like, I don't think riders should be penalized because I
think even Joe Roberts got penalized because he didn't want
to go to Aprilia when Aprilia was really bad and and and he
should at least have an opportunity to go with the track
house racing team and stuff likethat.
But I think the parent company Aprilia is like, Nah, man, you
had your chance and you said no to us kind of thing.
So. But what are your thoughts on

(29:34):
that? Pass Can you integrate?
It's not. It's not Joe Roberts.
Not. Yeah, Joe, Joe Robertson, just,
you know, having to take that opportunity to go to Moto GP
when you're not ready. Right.
It's just one of those I think you're in a rocket between rock
and hard place. I mean, I'm sure he understood

(29:57):
the realities of that choice, whereas like if he said no, the
the risks of them not wanting tosign them again are there.
And I think why Samkhat took that contract because he knows
like this is my one chance. Either I do well or I don't get
the seat or if I deny this, I probably won't get a seat
anyway. So I'll take the contract and
see what I can do. Like, I don't think, I think

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that was Joe Robert's only opportunity to get into Moto GP.
I don't think anyone else will give him a contract.
I don't think anyone's seen any sort of performances worthy of
giving him a Moto GP contract. I when I, when I saw that that
he refused or whatever the rumors or the whatever came out,
I was like, that was a mistake. Like if your goal is to go to
Moto GP, you should have just taken it.

(30:41):
But here we are. And he wasn't the only one.
I mean, he wasn't he definitely.I mean I think Sam Logan ended
up getting the seat eventually but back then and and Sam didn't
make it the whole season I don'tbelieve.
And that's probably what would have happened to Joe, you know,
like, unfortunately, unfortunately, but you know.
Yeah, I, I, I agree. So all right, let's we're

(31:05):
running through. Did you guys catch any of the
Moto 2 races before we we talk about this weekend coming up?
It was a pretty impressive race.You know, Gonzales is leading
the championship and you know, he's fighting I think with
connect, but Diego's like right there and obviously he he messed

(31:25):
things up this past week, past weekend for those guys and and
Balaton thoughts on Moto 2 and how how how the racing is going
on for the whole season. I I didn't watch.
I'll leave it to the guys that watched.
Yeah, same here. Like I really I didn't watch
Moto 2. I haven't been following Moto 2

(31:45):
too heavy this year. I do know Connect is riding the
best he's rode in his career. I feel like with the
consistency, because I've alwayswondered about Connect, is like,
why aren't you not progressing? Because you've been at this for
a while, you know? But it's one of those things,
you know, honestly, just sometimes your time is your time

(32:07):
and it doesn't come when it comes as early for some people.
But I feel like he's doing good right now.
He has a couple points he needs to try to close if he wants it.
Gonzalez is rolling, so good luck.
And you also got the young cat right behind you, you know, so
it's kind of like he can't make a mistake.
But like I said, for Moto 2, it's been a lot of highlights

(32:29):
and just kind of catching up just real briefly with Moto 2.
But I I agree that Canet's riding the best.
He's having the best seasons he's had.
I think he's one of the the mostraces.
I mean, he's usually in second place and fighting for the
championship this far into the season because usually in the
beginning of the season he'll beup there and then injuries.

(32:51):
I mean, like, yeah, at least with Mayor, he'll fall and walk
back. Like Canet, most of the times he
fall, he's hurting. So he's breaking something.
Yeah. He's like Martine.
Soft bones seriously. And, and, and, and we saw that,
that he's, I mean, and he's beenriding wounded, you know, for

(33:11):
several races this year already and, and, and kind of finished
further back. And now that he's healthy again,
you, you kind of see his pace coming back and stuff like that.
So, you know, he, that's one guyI think should have a motor,
should have had a Moto GP ride, because I think he is one of the
talented, the talented, the riders in Moto 2.
And, and I know, like, you know,there's, there's been rumors in

(33:34):
the past when, you know, just hehad just had too many tattoos
and, and, and some manufacturersdidn't want that associated to
their brand and stuff like that,which is kind of weird because
first of all, everyone in in, inMoto GP has a tattoo.
So, so that's crazy. So let's, let's talk about what

(33:55):
to expect this weekend in Cataluna.
You know it, I believe it's Marquez's home track.
And you know, I got, I got to look at the stats and see if
we'll look at the stats and see how some of these other riders
have done. But let's kind of kind of talk
about Cataluna. You know, what do you think of
that track, the location, the, the atmosphere is going to be

(34:17):
like as well, 'cause I, you knowthis, the Spaniards, they, they
love motorcycle racing. Look at this point of the
career, I mean, not career, but this point of the season, I'm
just like, just go ahead and give it to him already.

(34:38):
He's winning at Marcus, winning at track to where he's sucked at
and he's winning, you know, So like you got the he's hungry,
you know, and I feel like he, he's definitely proved a point,
you know, and I feel like he didthat last year with Garcini
where he made that choice to be like, I'm racing big Garcini for

(34:59):
nothing because I just want to be competitive.
And now he's on factory and he'sproven it this year.
Like he's dominant. I feel like Cataluna is going to
be exciting for the first coupleof laps and then it's going to
be Gap City and he's going to dohis thing or he's going to sit
behind whoever is in first place, probably Ben Seki, and
sit behind him for up until the last two laps and then instantly

(35:20):
passing me walk 4 seconds ahead of him.
You know, like that's my anticipations.
It's going to be a good race for2nd place and back.
Got you. What do you think about the
atmosphere and stuff like that and the meaning of Cataluna?
We've seen some really good battles in the past.
So you know, it is a good place for a good showdown.

(35:43):
You think we're going to it sounds like you're saying it's
going to make like Marquez mightkind of run away with it and and
let me know when y'all catch up.I mean, that's my personal
opinion, You know, like there certain people at certain tracks
are able to close the gap on hima little bit, but when it comes
down to who wants to win more and who has the skill to get it

(36:06):
done, that's where the separation comes from, you know,
like, so that's where he has thetools necessary.
Honestly, he's riding the best bike on the grid right now, but
he also has the mind and the skills on top of that to put to
work with. He needs to be clutched and hey,
I got X amount of time to rid this person here.

(36:27):
I got X amount of time to win this race.
Let me buckle down and do it. There's not a lot of people on
grid that can compete against that version of Mark Marquez
now. I feel like that's what
separates them. So I don't want to say he's
going to run away with it, but it's like unless you do run away
with it further enough for out of his reach quick enough, he's
going to win the race, OK. What are your thoughts, Tyson?

(36:51):
Far gone conclusion or you know Vinales is going to come back
and. You know, oh boy.
The Batman that's. Right.
I mean, he's going to win unless, I mean, he's competing
with himself. So if he decides to crash, he's

(37:11):
not going to win. If he doesn't crash, he's going
to win. I think to your point, Sir John,
like I think this is the most complete mark has ever been.
Like, I don't think it's I don'tnecessarily think it's the
fastest he's ever been. Like, you know, a couple years
ago in his Honda heydays, I think he was just like, he was
just trying to prove the point that he's the fastest thing with
two thumbs. And like he just he didn't care.

(37:34):
He was like, I'm going to make apoint that like, I know I'm
winning. I'm in first place, but I'm
going to put, you know, gaps on you.
Like I'm going to finish this race 40 seconds ahead.
I mean, I don't know actually, but like that kind of point.
Whereas now I think he's just like, you know what I don't
need? I don't like I'm going to win.
Why should I risk everything for, you know, an extra couple

(37:54):
seconds just for bragging rights?
So I think that's what I mean bythe most complete where he's
like, OK, I can relax and like not risk my body, not risk these
points and just win the race. No one else can touch me and his
control is insane. Like I watching him race other
guys, it's like watching an expert fight an amateur like and

(38:16):
they're all top of the line, premier class riders, the best
in the world. But he just does what he wants
when he wants to. And that is the scariest thing
about him. Like this year, like just OK, I
don't pass you this corner whenever, you know, next corner,
corner after that, next lap, whatever, it'll happen.

(38:37):
We'll do it. And it's just like, I don't
know, can compete, but I really hope Bez keeps it up.
I hope Martine's doing better. Like I think Martine's a better
rider than Bez. He's just still getting up to
speed. I think if they both were up to
speed, I think Martine would realistically be in second at
this stage. Maybe, maybe fighting Alex for
2nd to a degree. But like I don't think he would

(38:58):
be behind Petco. That Aprilia is pretty good and
it's with a faster rider I like.I think if Mark was on the the
Aprilia, he probably would have still won the championship I.
Agree I'm. Not any of the other.
Bikes, yeah, I would agree with that too.
After seeing what Bez is doing and after seeing what Martine
did the other day, I can say I II think so too.

(39:19):
I think, I think if Mark was on an Aprilia, he he would be
fighting for the championship. Would he have as many points as
he has right now? I don't know, but I think he
because Aprilia is very competitive, yeah.
I 100% agree with that right there.
Like, I don't think he'd be walking away with the
championship, but I think it would be like someone's going to
have to put up a serious fight to like, take it from him.

(39:42):
It would have to be Fabio on a Ducati.
Say, because the whole thing is like 14, Jorge left because Mark
took his seat. Like he was like, I'm getting
the Ducati seat. Well, that's it.
So what if Mark stays or whatever and Mark goes to
Aprilia and Jorge then goes to the Ducati?
Like what would that championship be?

(40:03):
It would be Jorge, most likely. The 24 would be.
My guess is I don't think Petco and Jorge would have taken the
25. But so the 24 against Mark on
the what is the RS25I think that'll be quite the
championship throwdown and I think it would be between Jorge
and Mark, not Pekko. Yeah, and just watching again

(40:24):
what he did this past weekend, Martine, I I feel like it, it's
possible that yeah, he might be.Well, let me ask this before we
move on to another manufacturer because I mean, and I've been
saying it all, I haven't been, Ihaven't brought this up all
season, but and I've kind of been bashing Ducati.
But how much credit should Ducati get the team get for what

(40:44):
Mark is doing? None.
I don't look at the rest of the riders.
It's that's tough. That's a tough question
actually, because it's like you want to be like, Oh no, Ducati
did this, but you got Pekko being a fierce fighter for what,

(41:06):
three years in a row? That face plants hard on that
25. Everyone else is kind of like
whether you got mark being marked.
So I. Mean, I do mean to cut you off,
but like Alex was doing well, Fuhrman is up there as well.
So it's not just Mark. Obviously Mark is the one that's
winning, but. So, but that's the thing though.

(41:26):
So like, it's not just Mark, butit is just Mark because you got
Ricky Outiger, which she is. He has so many random flashes of
like greatness. It's crazy.
Ellie. Junior.
Yeah, that that's that dude is like, I'm excited to watch him
like two or three years down theline.
Oh, Alex was doing good. Oh, you know, so they can ride

(41:48):
the bike. So John, one second Mark, Mark,
66% of Ducati's points. There you go. 66.
Wow, Yeah, I. I.
Mean, yeah. I feel like Alex and and and

(42:10):
Herman. I mean, they're doing good.
So Dakota is doing something because they're doing something,
correct. The thing is, I feel like they I
hope they don't get too locked in on Mark's performance because
at the end of the day, you're going to end up like Honda if
you don't pay attention. Yeah.

(42:30):
Yeah, what they, what they should do is they should have
like blind rider feedback or Mark should just say just give
me a bike. Don't fucking listen to me.
Listen to everybody else but me.Like I'm clearly going to win on
whatever you give me. So like, if you want your bike
to be better, ignore anything I tell you and listen to everybody

(42:53):
else. Well, I mean, in our fairness,
Mark only got there, so they were listening to all 8 riders
and we saw what 8 riders were doing, you know, being very
competitive at different track, different riders winning when
they had eight bikes on the grid.
So you know, there's something to be said for that and, and
that's what Aprilia is doing. You know, that that kind of

(43:13):
mindset of listening to the riders.
We see that with KTM as well. Honda's starting to adapt that
Yamaha is trying to. So that's kind of the way.
But Mark is doing something thatthese other guys are not doing.
But again, you're saying it wouldn't matter because if he
was on the KTM, he'll just do the same thing?
Or in April, Yeah. 100%. Yeah, I think the Aprilia for

(43:36):
sure. I'm I'm not 100% certain he
could win the championship on a KTMI.
Think he would fight for it and I think.
He would fight for it. It would make it interesting for
sure. KTM, I don't think he.
Could pull it off. Well, so the weird thing is Mark
likes to wobbly, or kind of. He likes to push the front a lot
and has that loose, weird front wobbly feeling that I think he

(43:58):
likes. So it's kind of like, and it has
the power. Like the way that these KTMS are
freight training these Ducatis on straightaways right now is
ridiculous. Like I thought ducks were the
fastest thing. Sorry, I think he would.
Have struggled quite a bit with the chatter, like they all
struggled quite a bit like I think he's amazing, but I
there's just some things like hejust can't work around and I

(44:18):
think that would have been a serious struggle that would have
Hanford him at the the first half of the season.
Like they seem like they've sortof figured it out to a degree.
But Mark's big thing is he lovessliding the front.
He loves being hard with brakes,really pushing that front into
corners and if your rear tire isjust entire time.
Like how much can you? Trust when you have grip.

(44:39):
Like when can you tell it's the phone chattering or the rear
chattering kind of deal? So yeah, I think you could you.
Make it interesting and I think he.
Would make a serious attempt on the KTM for the championship.
I just don't know if he could realistically pull it off.
Yeah, it wouldn't be a. It wouldn't be a guarantee,
that's for sure. I feel like they're brilliant.

(44:59):
A brilliant would be I. Still would probably say it's a.
Guarantee it would just be closer, but any other
manufacturer from their light out of it's just it wouldn't
work. Not with their current standing
or where they're at. I mean, Mark is good, but he's
you can't, you're not that good.Like, you can't be that good,
you know? Like, yeah, since he's the

(45:20):
Messiah, not God. Right, exactly.
So OK. So.
Mark in the 1st place who's? In 2nd and and 3rd and what do
you what do you guys think? Where's Yamaha in in the
standings and over the weekend? What do you guys think?
Cataluna I think. Fabio, he'll put it in the.
Top well in the Sprint, he'll probably put it in the top

(45:43):
seven. I'll give him if he can finish
the race and not wreck out in the first corner.
I think, I think Fabio, I think Yamaha.
'S probably Fabio will be top ten, but the rest of the Yamahas
probably won't touch the top 10.They seem to struggle here last

(46:04):
year. I mean, obviously different
bikes to a degree, but they're all iterations on previous
bikes. So especially with Honda doing
better, I think they're probablygoing to chip away at some of
their sort of successes that they had.
And it looks like Aprilia and KTM did pretty well around
Catalunya last year. So I think it would be a a
pretty interesting race. I think it realistically could
be up to anybody, OK. So we got Aprilia.

(46:30):
So did you guys say Aprilia? You think Bazecki or Martini
will be, you know, top five? I think I think Bazecki would
certainly be top. 3. Benz is on a roll right now.
You know, like. It's hard to, it's hard to

(46:50):
really break that momentum when you got it going.
So I do expect this game in the top three again as well, just
like Tyson said. Okay.
How about the you know, Alder gear?
I know Alex hasn't been the samesince he is injury, which is

(47:10):
unfortunate, you know, because he's showing he's showing some
pace but making some mistakes. So you think I you know, and
same thing with mobile Delhi andDigia.
How do you think the other Ducatis are going to fare and
and even best back now you because we haven't talked about
back now you much. But you know, I know you guys
are saying he's he's he's done for the season, but Petco, Petco

(47:32):
is not he's not. Mentally there, Petco is like
somewhere on vacation, crying ina corner somewhere.
Like he's mentally been checked out.
I feel like, like he's yeah. I mean, I think he's.
Obviously he's struggling, that's quite obvious.
But I mean, you look at Fabio too, like I don't, I mean

(47:54):
Fabio's no Jorge Martine or Fabio or Quattuaro or Marquez,
but like he's still a quick rider and he's not doing
anything on the 25. So I think generally the 25 is a
was a the wrong development choice for Ducati, at least this
year. Like who?
Knows if. Whatever you know an iteration

(48:14):
is better or not, but right and in all fitness.
Mark does say there's issues with the bike, but he knows how
to ride around it, right? So.
He like he had to ride around Honda his.
Whole career, well, he's like you guys are struggling with
these. You would have died on the
Honda. I I, I I.

(48:38):
Yeah, I I I agree. I think so.
I mean, I think that if I think the, the struggles that Marquez
had on that Honda made him a better rider coming to Ducati.
I mean, it's kind of like, you know, if you, if you grow up
playing basketball on a crate and all of a sudden you're
shooting in a, in a, in a, in a,in a rim, you're going to
probably hit way more shots thanyou were hitting in that crate

(48:59):
and probably be way more accurate kind of thing.
Not the same way. Not to say I'm calling the Honda
a crate, but milk crate I mean but.
Yeah. What do you what do you guys
think about? Al the gear, like I said, Mark,
Alex Marquez and the the VR46 guys.

(49:22):
I mean, I think it's a track that these guys have gone well
at in the past and you know, canthey?
I mean, you know, if I was them,I would all work together and
and try to get in Marquez in front of Marquez at different
times of the race and see who, you know who nobody can make it
at the end. Like in some maneuver into turn
1. Like exactly because because you

(49:45):
know, you see that Bazecki fights, you see more Badeli
fight, you see Digio fight, you see Acosta fight.
You know, we haven't seen FerminAlligator because he's just been
further in the back and Mark just had so much time in front
of him that he hasn't been able to do that.
We have seen Alex fight with hisbrother, but you know he made

(50:06):
one mistake and and that was that he could just questionable.
Tell us. What you think and then you
know, Tyson, you can, you can follow up after that.
But yeah, you know, what do you think about the other Ducati
riders and, and do they stay on the shot?
And also the, the, the, the, theriders I mentioned, because
they've kind of fought with, they've kind of been in front of

(50:29):
Marquez in different sections ofthe race.
I won't say they, they, they fought with him.
Yeah, it's tough. Because I put up like.
The finishes for last year, justto see kind of where everyone
went at and it's like you got topray that finished fourth.
You, of course, you got Petco Martin Mark, Mark finished
third, you know, so it's, it's, it's questionable to me because

(50:54):
it's like I could maybe. Give Ben Seki.
Like, just because he's on the road, give him the credit.
Like he's going to be up front at some point, you know, so he's
going to make a good solid fightfor it.
And he, he does have a fighter spirit, you know, he's not
scared to light you up, you know, so he will send it.
DG actually finished. Well, he was top five, he was in

(51:15):
fifth, you know, but he's also struggling on a 25.
So it's like, how does that translate now?
You know, so all the, these Ducati guys that were out front
last year are on 20 fives now and they're struggling except
for Mark. That's where the, I feel like
the other brands have a stock, you know, you can see their
previews come up front. You can see the Hondas get back

(51:35):
up there. That's it.
That's sort of red stuff. It's, it's just like it.
It's. Unpredictable.
You could say it KTM. I mean, so I will.
Say the KTM what Acosta, he's he's going to finish in the top

(51:57):
five a wreck out, you know, likeand he's not scared to fight you
either. You know, like he's not scared
to fight. He's not he he's not oh, you're
a world champion. I don't care.
I'm about to light you up insidestuff, you know, So like, he's
definitely is going to send it as well.
That's beautiful. Bassinini is showing signs of
finally getting comfortable on the KTM, which he's phenomenal

(52:21):
at. Late pace race, I mean late race
pace, he always comes on strong.And I'm starting to see that
over the last, what, 2 rounds? I think he started making
strides. Then he won one round he wrecked
out. But still, it's starting to show
that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's starting to show that. Sign of like him.
Getting comfortable and then we do have to say we do have
Maverick, which is coming back, granted, depending on his health

(52:44):
and how he actually feels, this is a track to where he's fast
at, you know, so he could mix upthe grid a little bit here and
there. And if the stars align, you
know, he could be a threat as well.
So there's a lot of, you know, the KTM boys.
I can, honestly. See out.
Out running the anyone on the onthose ducks minus Mark.

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Yeah, I I agree, Alicia. Sparger is going to be in a
race. I think that's his home track as
well. I think he did well.
If I'm not mistaken, he did wellon the April year in 23 there I
thought, I think he won. What was that year?
He was he the last. He won.
The he won. The Sprint.
He won the Sprint. OK.
Yeah, yeah, because. He did he like, think the race

(53:26):
was over? Early and like pulled up
celebrating years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were showing that all. Over like Instagram and YouTube
today. It was hilarious.
But that's the problem too for the grid.
Because. Elisha at that strike is fast so
it's like low key he can snatch one of those top ten positions
right from underneath somebody like easy yeah right from.

(53:49):
Yes. Oh man.
Yeah, he could. And and you know, the Honda is
in the top four, top six. So the Honda is definitely
quick. But what are your thoughts,
Tyson? You agree kind of with what Sir
John is saying as far as did we miss anyone that can be

(54:11):
competitive with Mark right now,I'm really high on.
Fuhrman, I really didn't have too many thoughts on him last
year. And really at the beginning of
this year I was like, yeah, we'll see how he does.
You know, he seems to be a hot commodity, but I haven't
necessarily seen anything out ofhim.
But, you know, other than Mark doing his fun hot laps at the
end of the race in the 30 sevens, he was the only other

(54:33):
racer in the 30 sevens. Like if he didn't and that was
after he crashed, if he hadn't have crashed, could he have kept
up with? Mark, could he have actually
like pushed? Him into a couple corners, like
I don't think he would have beathim, but I could see him making
like a, you know, showing a wheel and then mark just being
like good luck next time kid, and then like so.
I I think if it was. A video game and you could turn

(54:54):
off tirewear. He, he, he would, he, he would
definitely beat Mark. But I, I think, you know, Mark
has all, has pretty much everyone's number in the sense
that like, OK, yeah, I know thisdude is fast because I see, I
see his times and I got the dataand stuff like that.
But he's starting back here and he's, he already knows like, all

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right, he's going to have to burn, you know, he's going to
have to keep this pace to catch up to me.
And, and as long as I, I, I'm, I'm ahead of him by a second and
a half, I'm good. And he's going to run out of
tire because like you get, like you guys said, he just waits
until somebody makes a mistake or somebody just burns their
tire out too soon. And, and then he, and then he

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pounces. So I, I, I think for Furman, he
has to qualify well. And then when I say, well, he
got to be at least top six and, and then he's going to have to
just become the bigger than the race.
You'll have some real good races.
If you can get tops like first or second row qualifying, he's
going to have some good races coming up and I think he's

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realistically, I think Ducati should be looking at him for
some future plans. I mean, obviously if his
performances continue kind of deal and you know he keeps it
up, but he don't have, you know,he's he's.
Yeah, he signed. With Ducati specifically, not
with Garcini or nothing like he signed to Ducati contract.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the interesting.
Part to. Where it's like they're planning

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on him being the star, yeah, butthat's just like his contract
ends at. The end of 2026, correct?
Correct. Yes.
Yes, yes, yes. So it'll be yes.
It'll be interesting to see whatI I think.
You know, I remember, I think itwas a Bobby Shakes, I forget who
said that, that, you know, Alex Marquez could get a factory

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seat. And then when he said it, I
thought he was crazy. But then after seeing what Alex
Marquez did. But, you know, I think the next
year the factory seat is open for Furman or any other rider
that does better than I think back night or next year.
Yeah, I mean, I would love to see Alex.
Doing better. I mean, he's obviously in
second. He's doing a great job this

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year. It's the best he's done in
motor, whatever. But much like Bez or Frankie or
Veniales, like you got to put a whole season together, you know,
like you can't just have 5 good races and then the rest of them
mediocre. Like I don't think that
performance, like if you can pull out another second next
year, I'd say Ducati probably looks at him realistically.

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But other than that, I doubt they're actually looking at him
for a realistic contract on their team.
You know, listen, Mayor. You know, won a world title and
didn't win 5 races. The late, great Nikki Hayden
didn't win 5 races and won a title.
I mean, I know it's a different time now because there's Mark
Marquez and he's healthy and, and on the best bike on the

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grid. But you know, you, it, it, it
does happen. That's the thing.
The Spurs won a championship too.
But you know, that's, I mean, itcertainly does.
It's just one of the like. It goes with like the grid to a
degree, you know, like, depends on how other people are doing
it. If I had a choice between Furman
and Alex and Furman was like behind Alex next year in the
championship and just on fire, Iprobably would probably take him

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over Alex and leave Alex and Cosini.
Like he's getting older too. I mean, he's not ancient or
anything, but you know, was he 2930?
Yeah, and and I think Furman. Is a better rider than Alex in
the sense that I think Furman tome, and I've said this on air,
Furman is Aldiga is a better rider than Acosta because when

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Furman was in the European series on a Moto 2 bike and and
Acosta was in Moto 3, like he was nasty on that European
series and stuff like that. And, you know, even his first
year in Moto 2, he Furman was nice.
And then once he got that Ducaticontract, it was almost like all
of a sudden, you know, he, he was, you know, taking days off,

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it felt like. And, and in Moto 2, you know
what I'm saying, which if you signed him, I know you're trying
to save your body for Moto GP, but like, you signed the Moto 2.
So you know what I'm saying? Like you should, you should, he
should have showed up last year in Moto 2.
And I think he, he, he kind of just, you know, I don't know, he
made mistakes, was kind of doingsilly stuff and stuff like that
towards even after they after, after Ducati announced that

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because he forced Ducati to say he had the factory contract at
Phillip Island. And and and so when that
happened and after that, he justkind of, you know, like you just
got, you just got rich and just started partying, not taking it
seriously. And but it's so it's good to see
him, you know, being competitivenow and, and, and he's a rookie

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and which is which is really also impressive.
You know, it's it's good to see that that year was just kind of
what it was. But at the same time, I think
the team from last year didn't get the the firm in that
Grasini's getting this year, yeah.
I think unless I've. Missed anything?
I think we've covered a lot for what's coming to what's coming

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for Moto GP this round, so if I missed anything or if you guys
want to, you know, bring up something, you know, now will be
time, guys. Let's see what happens.
I like that I. I I like.
That definitely see what happensand, and, and also, I guess I, I

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don't know if you guys have seenthis.
So we'll, we'll leave on this note.
There is a, a, a finance group that's looking to buy Formula
One. Will you guys, you know, I don't
know if you've heard about that.And you know, right now Liberty
Media Groups own Formula One andthey own, I believe it 80% if

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not all of Moto GP. So if Liberty was to sell
Formula One, now all of a suddenthat pie gets a lot smaller for
with just Moto GP. But you guys, I don't know if
you heard anything about that and if you have or if you're
just hearing it now, what do youthink is like Formula One should
be sold? I mean, if it's, who owns the?

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Death of Formula One. Say again, who owns it?
Yeah, that's really. Who owns it right now?
Liberty Media Group Same. Owners, They bought a media,
yeah. OK.
Yeah, and they bought it 10. Years ago, 15 years ago,
something like that, something like that.
Mid twenty 10s they bought it from and I think it's a it's a

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middle. Eastern I or Saudi group that's
trying to buy it off for ridiculous money, but they, I
think they, they turned them down once and they, and they,
and they're back at the table again trying to say, Hey, you
know, which I mean, you know, ifit was to go to, I assume if
you're trying to buy something and they own two companies,
you'd probably try to get both, right?
Moto GP and Formula One, becauseI, I can see the package deal

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having Moto GP in that camp because, you know, I think
they're trying to bring Moto GP into where Formula One is as far
as entertainment value. And also kind of you look at
what you see in it with I, I, I would say European soccer with
shakes. It says it's just soccer.
We see what's happening. Oh, oh, I should say.
Football. My bad.

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With with, with, with football over there as as far as the
amount of money and the and the crowds and stuff like that.
I I doubt they can sell Moto. GP because they just got Moto
GP, did they not in like the last eight months, something
like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But my guess? Is there's some sort of like
contracts? On how long they can possess it
and stuff like that. So I obviously I have no idea.

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I have no idea what's in those contracts, but right from
Martine does. Oh boy.
Oh boy. You got to read them contracts,
man. Oh, man, but you're right, we
don't know. And, and I and I and I hope it's
just somebody, it's just a team that's, I mean, it's just a

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company that's looking and they stick around because, yeah, like
I, I just really started watching Formula One more often
in the last few years. But it's very entertaining and,
and I like what they're doing and, and I see what's the stuff
they've already done in Moto GP and, and how much better Moto GP
is, not necessarily from a writer perspective, but from an

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entertainment perspective. As far as logging on, as far as
just, you know, how the the press conferences are now and
stuff like that, which is if you're, if you're long in the
tooth, as someone like to say, you probably might not like to
change because you always want to see the top three writers in
the press conference. Well, it's nice to see other
writers in the press conference now.

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Yeah, so. It is.
It is good to get that at the marketing.
Out there. I like Liberty Media.
They've obviously done quite a bit with Formula One.
Formula One's more popular than it's ever been.
My only problem with Liberty Media is that they love St.
circuits and I hate St. circuits.
Like they're terrible circuits. Like at first they were fun and

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now it's like now that there's like whatever 8 St. circuits on
the calendar, it's like come on.Like there's great tracks like
they go to Vegas and Miami, likego to Rd.
Atlanta. That would be sick.
That is a sick track. That would be.
I have no idea how. Realistic it is for Moto.
GP but I would much rather go toRd.
Atlanta. Than go to.
Miami and spend 3 grand on tickets just to go to the

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Dolphins parking lot. Like I just want to be sad.
Go to the Dolphins. Game, you know?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So, Louis. Louis, that's Ortega.
That's on our The Monday show. We've talked about this a bunch
and it comes down to the facility, you know, you got, you
got Moto GP, you got Moto 2, yougot Moto 3, you know, so it's

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nice when you can, you can have a paddock that can hold all that
and that's the downside. So I think they would have to
build up something or create something temporary to make that
work. And a street circuit.
No, just even. That Rd.
Atlanta. Like they need, you need a
paddock space kind of thing to hold all, all the big rigs and,

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and, and everything and not, andnot bump, you know, certain
people into tents. Kind of cause like now some of
the track, we'll see some of theMoto 3IN in tents and canopies
and stuff like that. But I think that's more for show
and tell when they do the walkthrough.
But it, you know, I think that'sthe biggest thing It's just
having I think the US would haveto either modify a facility to

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house Moto GP. We'll build a facility that can,
can, can, can house it like likeCoda, essentially.
Fortunate, though, like we have these great.
Tracks like objectively the layouts and like you know how
the tracks run and their flow, they're amazing tracks, but like
they don't have the money cominginto them like Coda.

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Like why do they go to Coda so they can have 200,000 people pay
tickets every every day. Why do they go to Coda?
Because they have that money influx to build those, you know,
media tents and media, you know,buildings and the garages and
that sort of stuff. Like, I mean, assuming to get
sort of like a similar level of what do you want to call it sort
of like infrastructure. At any other track that isn't

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Coda Indy or Laguna would be 10sof millions of dollars.
And I guarantee none of them want to spend that kind of money
for the amount of money that Moto GP realistically will be
giving them for the event to come there.
So yeah, no, I think it's going to have to be just.
Some, you know, you know, maybe Keanu, Keanu Reeves might want

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to spend some of his movie moneyand build a track.
He'll probably do it for Canada first, but you know, like it.
That's the downside. I mean, and I think that's the
huge biggest thing with racing in the US is getting the
facilities right. So that way you can have these
big shows and stuff like that, you know, and even, you know,

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like, even like, I know New Hampshire Speedway's starting to
do more concerts now and stuff like that.
So. And New Hampshire Speed is, you
know, despite what it is for NASCAR, they're like, they have
the facilities big enough to to house everything, but, you know,
they're just known for Oval track.
So that's the downside. Yeah.
I mean no realistic professional.
Organization is going to go to Loudon for a motorcycle track.

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No, Well, you know, I mean, you know, more America riders.
Are showing up for the classic, and that's just they're choosing
to on their own. But, you know, I, I think at
some point they're going. To they're going to like the
teams are going to show up because it's it's you know, so I
can't I. Can't speak for.
Any of the teams or anyone else in.
But like, from our perspective, we want, we're trying to grow

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the sport, the sport, you know, US riders were the biggest
riders in the world at one time,you know what I mean?
And, and so it, it, it would it,you know, it's a sacrifice for,
for, I guess people like us and,and whoever is trying to, you
know, rebuild or help build, youknow, racing in the US.
So you would think that it's, you know, teams and I get it,

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you know, there's a price on everything.
But it, it would make sense for,for, for teams to show up and,
and run and, and do that. And it's still good money.
I mean, granted, you know, they,some of these writers make way
more money than what Loudon's giving out.
But you know, 60 grand is a lot of money to in, in, in a weekend
and stuff like that. And from a nostalgia
perspective, as you know, Tyson,it's the, it's the oldest Rd.

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racing series in the country. You know, it's been around for
over 100. They've been racing over 100
years. But I, you know, it, it, it
comes down to numbers and that'sthe downside of it.
But I I do think teams should show up or allow their riders to
show up even if they want to come on and bring their own bike
and bring their own team. I think that's it, guys.

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Well, I want to thank you guys for coming on.
I really appreciate it. We we've been kind of chatting
offline, you know about coming on and that's kind of how you
guys connected with us and stufflike that because you guys
follow the show and it was nice to have you on and talk Moto GP
as well. And I hope to have you guys on
again. I really appreciate it, Tyson

(01:09:07):
and Sir John Hampton, I really appreciate it.
Thank you guys for coming on tonight.
Thank you. Thank you.
Appreciate it. Thanks so much, Rexy.
Thanks, Peace.